Daisie Dates - EP11 PART 1| The Founder of FIT FCK | A Fitness Dating App

Episode Date: October 26, 2023

WELCOME TO SEASON 2 of the Daisie Dates Podcast!! *This episode is not explicit but contains some swear words* First Up, in this episode, the founder of FITFCK, Jamie Wykes-Hobday joins me with his team, Callum Roberts, Jude Bennett, Matty Lee and Emily Smith. THIS IS PART 1 PART 1 of this episode is all about the FITFCK app, how it came about, the idea behind it, being an entrepreneur in this current Climate and marketing strategies on social media apps and we touch on one of the very well known Investors!! (Did someone say OnlyFans?!) PART 2 is about all the juicy stuff - icks, dating do's and don't's and SHOULD WE APPROACH SOMEONE IN THE GYM? Are the rules different for a guy and a gal? Enjoy the episode and like & subscribe to never miss anything! Insta - @daisiebelle @daisiedatespodcast TikTok - @daisiebelle6 @daisiedatespodcast Find the pod on all streaming platforms, too! Follow FITFCK: Insta & TikTok & YouTube - FITFCK P.S This is a relationships and dating podcast which is in the podcast charts. I cover mindset, heartbreak, rewiring thoughts and we chat all things finding love, aswell as finding ways for being happy single and embracing dating, choosing to not date at all or just having fun! Follow everywhere @daisiedatespodcast and @daisiebelle PLEASE like and subscribe or leave a review - every little helps and this podcast is produced, presented, filmed and edited by me. Dais xo

Hello, welcome to season two of the Daisy Dates podcast where I talk all things dating, obviously, heartbreak, mindset, and dating apps as well. And today, well, I think we're going to be touching on a little bit of everything. I'm going to be joined by amazing guests this season, full of wisdom, a lot of them inspiring, and we're going to be touching on a little bit of everything. I'm going to be joined by amazing guests this season, full of wisdom, a lot of them inspiring, and we're going to learn a lot together. Today, we are talking heartbreak and dating apps. I'm joined in the studio by Jamie Wykes-Hobday, founder of FitFCK, Callum Roberts, and Jude Bennett as part of his team.

So FitFCK is a fitness dating brand designed to connect like-minded gym lovers through their dating app and in-person fitness dating events as well which for me is a win-win guys because it's bringing everything together and dating in real life as well. Welcome to the studio. Hello. Hello, thanks for having us. You sold us so well. Oh thank you, you look bubbly and lively. I think it was a job or something. I thought it was your practice. So I know that this has been like a long time in the making.

There's so many exciting things happening with the team. We're also going to hear from some other team members a little bit later. But studio size guys, we couldn't quite fit them all in at once. I always start with a this or that game for my guests. Jamie, you're going to take one for the team. Okay. Whoever comes to mind, whoever comes first. Okay.

In the gym, upper or lower body? body weight or machines body weight boobs or bum bum gym day or food day food day for a day relaxing holiday or a fitness camp relaxing holiday oh okay i wasn't expecting that one all right i got toughy would you rather meet the love of your life this year or fit fck get national that's a stupid question that is the dumbest question i'm holding you yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah those two newest don't say the wrong answer here yeah yeah i was literally like that's a good question if that was my mates watching that, they'd be like, that is the most clear answer what he'll give.

Really? Okay, so you're not like a hopeless romantic? No, I'm married to the game right now. Love it. Okay, well, that's probably why a lot of us in this room are single. Okay, it's no secret that the app actually started through Heartbreak, which is a great story because many great things come from that moment in time so if you wouldn't mind Jamie's handing us a little bit

of a background there sure um so the whole way that I got into fitness was um I went to a very traditional boarding school where it's basically going to be like you'll be a lawyer or you'll be a rugby player so basically if you're not bright enough to be a lawyer you'll be a rugby player so like i set my complete life to becoming like this rugby player and i got to like a really good academy level when i was 17 and they turned around and said you're too skinny literally those words like you could not say that today right and i was like i was like fuck like that's that i was i was in tears i go back to my parents crying but i literally turned that into an obsession for the gym because they said go to the gym and come back next year so literally spent that typical garage summer that everyone starts in their parents garage lifting weights and stuff and I got addicted

so when I got to uni I said I want to set up my first business because I'd always admired my dad he's been very entrepreneurial his whole life and I was like I want to do that you know I don't want to work for him I want to do that so I set up my first company which is a PT business so during the day I'd study and during the evening I'd go and knock knock on doors and literally I'd cold call people for clienting and halfway through one of my best clients was like oh you should do a bodybuilding show so I literally laughed I was like I'm gonna go on a stage in some pants and like looking like a fucking nectarine like with all that oil and stuff and two weeks later I'm roped in so I'm literally like three you knowine, like with all that oil and stuff. And two weeks later I'm roped in. So I'm literally like three, you know,

this is like with all your boys who do it, right? Three times a day training. So cardio in the morning, cardio in the evening and weights at midday, six meals a day of literally fish and rice cake, 8,000 milligrams of vitamin C, which is the hardest part.

Cause you're literally just peeing the whole time. And two weeks out from my show, I'm on the treadmill at like 5 a.m and my girlfriend at time comes back from a night out at 5 a.m and um she'd had a few drinks probably something else as well if i was to take a guess and she broke up with me whilst i was on the treadmill oh she was like literally at the gym no no the treadmill was in my room yeah i've got a treadmill like off email as a student it was like a treadmill in my in my in my room yeah and she said you're a social recluse you're

a weirdo which is all true it's all true i was i was a freak slain half the industry anyone watching this will know that you turn into like a a monk lifestyle yeah and so i was like right so i finished the cardio session that's the main thing i did i did i was crying and i finished it that's how obsessive i was and then i thought right it's got to be something for gym people and fitfck was born that's quite amazing i was gonna ask how you dealt with the breakup was it the gym like completely thrown because that's a lot of people's kind of yeah i'm i'm i'm um i create coping mechanisms a lot with a lot of things so if something's happening in personal life it'll be like right it's not healthy i fully know it's not healthy i've when my parents split up i that's

when i turned really obsessive with my business and it was the same with my relationship i just went into training over mode which was great for the competition but for anyone watching i'm not advocating that for a second like probably deal with the problem instead of just instead of just working over it yeah yeah and i'm an advocate for kind breakups don't do it the way this person did but jamie i probably would reckon up with you too no i i would as well that's the thing i would 100 have dumped me yeah i was a weirdo still am i suppose that's what led you to it isn't it because you understood that it was a difference in lifestyles that led to that breakup rather than and i suppose that's what led you to it isn't it because you understood that it was a difference in lifestyles that led to that breakup rather than and I suppose that's why you wanted to create a solution wasn't it like the best things have come from a breakup that's true have either

of you got a story where you've looked back and been like that was meant to happen because of this and it led you a certain way well I ain't been in a relationship so um no do you know what it's saying to jamie i've just been very focused on i have a vision and somewhere where i want to go and i've just been very focused on that not saying that i've been talking to girls etc but i just haven't connected with someone in that way where i'm like yeah i want to have a relationship but i just feel as a young person it's about enjoying experiences and and living life and and doing what you want to do and also being around girls as well and you can enjoy that with a girl as well but i just think sometimes for me personally it will limit me

doing certain things so that's why i haven't had a relationship although the right person technically shouldn't limit you from doing anything agreed yeah not to think that but trust me i've had some experiences where like girls have i've been in talking stages and for instance doing the work that i'm doing now is obviously fitness dating etc like working with jamie and i love it and it's like girls would be like no i'm fine with you doing that and all of a sudden they see me do a video with jamie and go oh you can't do that i'm like well you said you was fine with it no you can't do that so i've just come to terms with you know i'm good doing what i'm doing yeah i've come to terms with the fact that talking about dating somewhere openly on tiktok and a podcast is giving most guys even the year just staying well away so i'm like fine they're scared they're gonna get called out

on the show yeah yeah that's your problem not mine uh how about you can you think of like a specific moment um in terms of dating no i don't know i i do think though i do think sometimes you know sometimes you know what you're meant to do like if you know you're not with the right person and i feel like there's only a certain amount of time you can avoid that before it becomes louder and louder and it's almost like the universe makes it so uncomfortable so you have to leave so I do I do not mean that everything happens for a reason but no I don't think no I like that I like that you're into the universe I've spoken about that a lot in season one um Jamie was it the breakup ultimately that did bring the brainchild it was but had it always been there like that business mind of starting something up anyway and that's

just like your power to go and do it well yeah like for for ages i'd always known that i wanted so i studied business management sports science and i've always wanted to work within a sports fitness business that's the kind of that was the goal it's not now like my goal has changed now but when i was pting i kind of knew it wasn't like a lifetime job it was kind of like a means to an end at uni so when this thing, I literally remember being in my dorm at uni and being like, oh shit, this could be like an actual business. And ran it to some people that I respect their opinion, you know, asked what do you think?

And everyone was like, you need to get started with this ASAP. So came up with Fit SDK. The whole reason my name is Fit as fuck. That's the whole thing. Obviously. And we, like I told you when we spoke, we had like a two year legal battle to get that name with a similarly named fashion brand.

You can probably guess what it is. But yeah, when that was done, it was, you know, it's clear to see that people wanted that product. And with starting an app, how did you even know where to go with that? Like obviously making an app, researching, there's a lot of people involved in that. Oh i got completely like screwed over at the start um i've not just talked about on like public platforms to be fair like i with the money that i had i put it into like a developer agency

and they just completely legged us over like the app was actually being developed in india like they just third-partied it so like there was no i had no real control over anything that was going on but thankfully i had a lifelong friend who worked at JLR at the time doing like software and stuff like that and he said I could literally code your app within three months oh my gosh so I brought it in-house owned all the IP and yeah he built it on both platforms for us which is great we don't work together now but it wouldn't have happened without him for sure amazing and I feel like you are someone that pushes boundaries and will just get what you want like fit fck was always going to be the name that was like no matter what legal battle is becoming the name right yeah i've always said like as long as you're

talking about it that's all i care about cool okay you've created quite a fun working environment i think that's quite um prominent and obvious from your socials so how did you find your team these two no so like for full for full disclosure like the actual operations is is purely me myself and i um and i've always i said to you the other day i've never said that like it's not a why always me like it's me on my own at the moment i just want that i want to be doing everything and whilst i've got the privilege of doing that i'm just trying to be very present in that moment of realising that, shit, this is a lot to do. But with these two, like, I've basically always said, like, I wanted to find, like,

I've wanted to create a gang and build a gang because I think if social media loves anything, it's seeing, you've got to look at Sidemen, right, with KSI, Team 10 with J-Paul, creates those gangs and builds it. And people love watching that. It's that vibe of community. So Call was wait how did you followed me oh ages ago yeah no no yeah so i was posting content different to what i'm posting now actually funny enough and you just

follow me i think you maybe sent me a little message like i love your content i sent him a little message back and we sort of you even said to me as well i'd sort of see your instagram you'd see mine we didn't really text and then all of a sudden yeah so you he messaged me about doing some work together and at this time i was starting to take social media a lot more seriously compared to before and i was like yeah sure thing i was in manchester um doing work with another brand and he was like come along we've got an event afterwards love a bit of a party me so i was like yeah gotta go for that and then uh yeah we met in Manchester and just sort of kicked it off from there it was good as well because I've worked with a lot of brands and the main thing for me working with brands especially at the point where I was then

it was like I just wanted to feel like someone actually really cared for what I thought if that makes sense like a lot of brands can throw money at you and say this and say that, but they just throw stuff at you for free and more time than not, it's benefiting them. Whereas Jamie, it was like, we generally just connected on a night out. And we wasn't even talking about work too much. We was just generally talking like us two. And for me, that was a big thing about, like you said, community.

It was like, we built a friendship first before going into business, if that makes sense. And that was big for me. I think that's the thing is that like now it's turned into quite an aspirational group. So I get people regularly messaging, like, how can we join? How can we be involved? And that's because that's without trying to sound too sell out. If you've got like a group of young, fit, good looking people, it's true.

It's how it's how humans work. You know, it's an aspirational vibe. And with Jude, it was quite a cooler story, I think. I put up a story of like, who wants a hoodie? Yeah, we actually had a mutual, didn't we? I went to school. It was quite a small school. So you will get to know each other. You will know each other's families.

And I went to school with one of your investors. And he put out that he was investing. And it was all over his social media. And it was a big opportunity. And obviously, it was about the gym. So I all in um so yeah i just followed and then um yeah i put up a story post and i was like no i put up a story i was like who wants a hoodie and this is how i saw your profile first because without sounding arrogant you need to do a background check when we closed on vestibules obviously everyone was posting about us so like we got a

lot of follow requests yeah don't necessarily notice everyone but i put up a story and i was like right thanks for the celebratory news who wants a hoodie and this point we're just giving them out to get the word out there and jude voted and i clicked on a profile and well i was like mate like i said to callum because i knew callum before jude i was like we need to get this girl so yeah amazing can i have hoodie yeah yeah definitely. And I think what's particularly good about the app is you've kind of managed expectations. You've kind of said it's for people that want relationships,

want a community, but also want casual relationships. And I quite like that because you're just upfront about it, like own that a lot of people use apps for that too. I won't say the name of the company, but it rhymes with Finder. I hate how they put on social media like advertising marriages 24 7 i'm sure people get married off tinder i'm sure they are but let's just cut the the shit here like a lot of people go on tinder for hookups when i was using tinder many moons ago i was using it for that like just fun and i don't know why we're in

a society now where it's like frowned upon if both people are consensual about it there's absolutely no issue my end so for us i've always wanted to like actually be the dating app that's open about that because especially in the fitness industry oh massive like yeah it's crossfit but you know what's funny i don't know if it's um a side effect of like actually taking that pressure off and then people feel a bit more free but there have actually been a lot of relationships that have formed from it and a lot of people that go on to have serious relationships just from fit fck which i think is given that it's it's quite young in its development which i think is quite surprising um yeah so i don't know if it's actually being open and being like just see how it goes that actually people feel a bit more free to then explore things with each other i think that's completely right and i think whilst it is still i think it has a couple days ago we're

three months old now which is crazy like it feels like it's been like years well it technically has but like um the engagement that we've got at the moment because it is so community backed is a lot higher than a lot of dating apps so i think what jude's saying there and i think the reason why people are so open to me and all of this is because on social media we've said this is a community driven brand like and when you've got that of like-minded people within a community it's so powerful not just from a business point of view from a social point of view as well it does draw that traction like you're right other apps that you may follow and you don't know who the you don't know who works behind it because you don't see it it's all about the app

and actually now on socials and I think this is only a recent thing, people actually want to get to know you as a person, people are hella nosy which is why people love hearing about like dating and stuff but even for me the posts that I do where I'm like proper feel naked writing it out they're the ones that do the best

I think that makes so much sense, I think what we're all looking for on some level is just connection and whether that's friends or community and I think there's maybe a bit of a gap after you leave school or you leave uni where you've gone from a place where you're so connected to everyone or you have your family at home to then you move out and you go to work and you spend most of your time alone and I think that on some level all of us are like craving it or we or we spend most of your time alone and I think that on some level all of us are like craving it or we or we appreciate it when we see it and I think that's what really

resonates with the fit fck community because I have so many people messaging me like oh I want to be a part I want to be a part and it's it might not even be that they want to be dating or meet someone but they want they see us all out together as a group and there's loads of us that and they want to be a part of that in some way and i think that's the thing that's different about fit fck in terms of a yeah compared to a normal dating app yeah 100 i was gonna ask what makes it different to the clientele would it come down to that um yeah i mean from a surface level it's clearly because it's for fitness people and i said on our we did a video picture the other day which we put on social but it's mainly for like investors and stuff

i say at the end i said if you don't go to the gym don't come on it but what i mean by that is if you go to the gym once a week and you're starting your journey absolutely come on board as long as someone is looking to better themselves mentally physically everything through the gym more than welcome what i am saying though is if you don't go to the gym there's no point coming on the app because it's full of people who are looking to connect with gym goers it's a bit like me going to it's a bit like a vegan going to toby carvery do you know i mean it just doesn't make any sense yeah um but so that's the surface level but on a deeper note the thing that genuinely makes us different is the community 100 and i personally don't think there's a dating apple brand out there

that has a better community right now we you guys are keeping marketing quite exciting and like can you hear what i've raised he does um how are you keeping up with all of the trends that are just like constant and the constant algorithms then there's a new social app that's happened um well this week in time of recording but yeah he's on this stuff yeah go on then but i think with anything you've just got to study it. It's like if you want to do a podcast, you're not just going to start a podcast without watching what other people are trending with podcasts. So it's the same thing if you want to do social media, you've got to be constantly watching social media.

But what a lot of people do is, and I guarantee everyone's prone to it here, you'll sit and you'll get lost on TikTok, but you'll generally just be watching the videos. Whereas with me, I do YouTube as well. I actually analyze it. So I'll sit down and watch a youtube video i'll go how they done that transition from that to that was really good oh how they done that text was really good that's why they're getting the views it's not actually just about them and their personality it's about the whole

package if that makes sense and that's the same with trends when you're scrolling through tiktok you're like oh this is really good i like this video it's really good but then you're not realizing that if it's really good use that do you know what i mean but people don't realize that they're just they're being soaked into the content and and they're being users rather than actually think oh can i just do that myself and and actually make a living off of it so it's just about actually analyzing it and breaking it down and sort of understanding where social media is going so there's always going to be something new there's always going to be something that's trending so it's about just keeping up with it like we said

sidemen do that the best ksi how he's evolved what he first started posting compared to now it's completely different because it's not the same it's not trending what you used to post back then so it's all about just keeping up with the times and fitfck is like so new so trendy no one's done it so it's like that's fresh so it's about i guarantee you'll see other brands at some point start to copy the same image because they think oh blimey look what they're doing let's copy it do you know i mean it's a trend they jump on it yeah absolutely and you've been doing stuff like date uh fitness expos like dating in love them in the cold baths like the cold water baths

i mean that's different people aren't doing stuff like that so is that kind of your role at fit fck more so uh well what's my role i don't know i mean honestly i'm the the expo i'd put down to jude like i always thought expo's a bit of fluff like people always tell me to come out here of course you do because it's a bit of fun there's a piss up afterwards but what's what's in it from a business point of view and ultimately that's what it comes down to a it was so enjoyable but b from business point of view it's opened so many doors um like from partners to the next fit expo we got invited to another expo off the back of that because they saw what we were bringing on social media and yeah like i said the fitness industry can be quite stiff at times it can because it's quite a

monk-like lifestyle and we just brought pure mad energy that whole weekend and had people coming up to us saying like thank you so much i had a guy come up to me in tears 40 odd year old bloke in tears like this just made me so happy seeing you guys i was like wow okay well i guess that's what comes with the brand because i went on tiktok to talk about dating I never knew I did it to help people and like I guess myself like I can't be the only girl getting ghosted definitely not um but like I get messages all the time even after episodes of the podcast like that really helped me and thank you and again it comes back to like that connection knowing that people are going through what you're going through. So I guess if you're like bringing something, a community, kind of a good vibe, people appreciate that

because some people don't have a community around them either. So there's that aspect too. I am desperate to know why the Instagram is a private account. Is it to look at the people first or is it to get true intentional followers? Do you know what? Or am I off key? The first one was partly right.

Yeah. So we have had some very peculiar people follow before who are putting completely inappropriate comments on our content. I see. That's fair. Yeah. And we know we'll get that from guys and from girls. You know, you see a load of gym people. People do that.

But also it is a quicker way to grow as well. Because if you've got this page on private, basically people, especially with a brand like FitFCK, people always be like, oh, I wonder what's behind that page. And then they'll follow and hopefully they stay. Or be the algorithms a bit annoying and buggy. Okay, I think it is good to get intentional followers though. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

You've got like over 50K now, haven't you? Yeah, but I'd say a lot of that came from like when the OnlyFans guy invested. Oh, yeah. A lot of that press came from there. Let's talk about that. Timothy. Yeah.

Go on then. Timothy. On a first meet basis. I really feel like there's, yeah, there's something here. Go on, tell us,

do tell. Yeah, he's a good mate of mine. And when he exited OnlyFans, he'd watched the whole journey. He was like, can I invest? And I started crying.

I just went mad. I was like, calling my dad up started crying i just went mad i was like calling my dad up and obviously the guy's built a six eight billion pound business it was six when he left reportedly don't please don't come for me on that um but if anyone knows how to scale a business from his kitchen it's him and you know people can say what they want about any fans you know and they're completely entitled to but you can't knock a guy who's built that big of a business yeah as long as it's exactly yeah um so yeah i'd end them on a night out back in my wilder days i love how things like when i was hammered yeah so i dm'd him and uh yeah the next thing i know we're having lunch together and i was i was literally sat there i was like i'm having

lunch with the founder what did he order what did he eat he is without a doubt and my mates always say oh you would say that you're invested but I mean even if he didn't say this even if he didn't invest I'd say this

he is the nicest most humble bloke normal bloke ever like supports West Ham has his that's a normal bloke yeah yeah yeah not Chelsea

that's a redeeming quote hold on hold on I mean he's a football guy quote. Hold on, hold on. I mean, he's a football guy. He loves his dogs. He's got, you know, obviously a beautiful house, whatever. But like, he's a very like normal guy. And he's honestly, what's interesting is, yes, he invested,

but more of the like guidance as well that he gave was actually quite good. And to be completely transparent here, using his name was probably worth more than the money as well oh definitely bang so jamie what advice would you give to entrepreneurs now you started off quite young obviously still very young um advice in this current climate don't do it oh no like i say no no so like i joke about it when I say it, but like I'm really passionate about this as well, is that the whole entrepreneurial image has been overly glamorized on social media. Everyone thinks it's trips to Dubai, it's Rolexes, it's Ferraris, it's, you know, chatting with, you know, billionaires 24-7. But there's so much that doesn't get documented that people need to know about.

So I've always said that I want to have the image of being the transparent entrepreneur. I just want to be completely honest with people, tell people when I've had a shit day, tell people when, you know, I've got an issue that I'm facing, but equally so share the highs. Because what I will say is that whilst, you know, the tough times are very tough,

they are the most beautiful times. I look back on the things that I thought were hard and now smile at those more than like the high times, because that's what ultimately makes you into the person I think we've fallen into a really bad state of emotion in society where we are scared of pain and I think that people run away from pain now but pain is ultimately what makes us and I think that everything that's happened to me in my life that I'm not saying I mean I've been a very privileged background but there has been stuff that's happened to me and i always say that that's the best things that's happened to me i wouldn't be half the

man that i am now if that hadn't happened um so what i am saying is that if you are going to do it three weeks at least of just assessing the whole situation do i want to do this is this what i want or is this what i think my family want or my mates want or my followers want if you truly want it and you know you'll truly want it and you do anything for it to happen then do it but if you have any element of doubt don't sorry what has been one of the just one of the specific biggest challenges that you face like building the app and the brand to your legal battle with connection was quite solid okay um yeah literally on my own um with the u.s high court so oh my god i can talk about it now like i can talk about it which is there have been so many podcasts in the past i've been like oh this fashion brand with a similar name yeah but um got

the uk trademark because i've always known that for fck's power will be in the name and the brand like my whole plan is for it to be like a multi-level consumer brand not just an app right so the name needs to be cemented so i did the uk trademark no problem filed for the us trademark and like six months had passed money's ticking time's ticking 12 months passed 18 months have passed i'm like right this is ridiculous what's happened turns out that such a company had put in a foot to say that this can't happen and so it was basically me on zoom call with them not them but like the representative yeah and anyway it transpired you know why you bothered about a small UK startup to which I was like yeah so uh yeah we got it now so it's now

trademarked in the UK and the US, which is great. And, of course, hopefully a challenge like that won't come your way again. Oh, God. Well, I won't be doing it to anyone else either. Right. Dating yourself with a dating app. Are people weird now when you try and date that you own an app? Yeah.

Yeah, because it's similarly what we spoke about, Callum, like the fact that you're openly talking about dating a lot online. I mean, I have a profile on the app and you rinse me about this horribly, but I did need it for testing. I did. Oh, yeah. I mean, because he was on there. He's like, that's all right, I'd say.

But I've always said you never shit on your own doorstep. And that goes with our events as well. Does that count for your team? No, no, they they can go nuts they can do whatever they want okay if anything i want them to get with people that's the job right but that's that's not the job let's just i just want to clarify no part of that is the job no right so um we did 10 events last year um i didn't get with anyone didn't event for our launch didn't get with anyone haven't met with anyone from the app i went for training session with someone on the app nothing more didn't even kiss because it it just gives me weirdo vibes like hey baby got this app i own it like yeah like it would be that as well

i do think it's I do think it's I do think it's awkward and Jamie's obviously never told us what we can or can't do in terms of that but I personally have never

used the app in that way obviously I have the app to you know see how it works and stuff but I just think it'd be a bit awkward

like I can't imagine swiping engaging with people having chats and then obviously being at every event, but in a work capacity. Yeah. You're at a work capacity,

and then, well, three of the people you were talking out there. Do you know what I mean? I just couldn't, I just, I think it would feel a bit awkward. It'd feel a bit vain, wouldn't it?

Like, I've literally been on the video talking about Fit SDK, I'm front and centre of the page, and all of a sudden, I'm on the app, DMing the girls. Like,

it looks a bit like, It feels like an abuse of power. Yeah, it feels, they probably think like, I have like, I can match anyone I want, or it's like some power on the app and the girl was like it looks a bit like it feels like an abuse of power yeah they probably think like i have like i can match anyone i want or it's like some power on the app the algorithm yeah yeah yeah in your favor and obviously we have the freedom to completely be ourselves like james really good with that but at the same time you are at the events um and you are representing the company and you are in a business position so there's a certain element of like you have to be friendly and presentable.

And if you've already involved yourself with people, whether you like them or not, whether however they've been to you if they're at the events, you know what I mean? You're going to have to like smile and be, I just think it's a bit too messy. We're at a point at the moment I think where, you know, in the UK we've got tallest poppy syndrome.

Like when things are going right, people love to pull it down right. and i think at the moment with everything going great it just takes one slip up from someone and you know also being a very out there brand as fit as ck is there'll be someone who'd love to take it down so and i'm fully aware of that i'm hyper cynical with people in general right i think you have to be in business and i just know that if these guys fucked up or if i fucked up it's curtains and so I probably rather fuck up myself than one of these guys do it because I don't know but you know what I have really really got from it is a huge I don't know how Jamie does it but genuinely he picks people and I keep saying it every time he picks someone for the team or whatever they're genuinely someone

that has a beautiful soul wonderful personality and I And I've really grown. Thank you. Stop it. And I think we found a huge, we found a huge, come on, babe. We found a huge community and a huge friendship group where we all spend time together. We all go on like weekends away together and stay in the same house and stuff, a big group of us. So I think whilst we're not using it for dating, we have got a huge sense of community and friendships.

And so I think that's worth so much more to me. Go on then. Icks from all of you, please. Dating icks. I'll do mine last. Well, you've already got one, haven't you? Yeah. So you go first.

It's not even a dating ick. My ick is the word ick. I hate, I feel like, yeah. No, no no do you know what it is i feel like callums is he'll happily gaslight anyone into right right no you've got a complaint about me you're the problem no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no but you know what it is i feel like girls sometimes just throw the word out ick a lot of the time but it'll be on like so i've done a public interviews one i was asking girls what their eggs are and she starts going

oh mine's when boys wear mountain boots and mine's when boys... And I'm thinking, how is that like an ick? Like, that's so... It's so random sometimes. So the word ick just is an ick to me. It's so annoying. I'm like, oh, come on.

But I think there's nothing wrong with that because if you think about how many people there are, over 7 billion people, why should you not be specific? Like, you like going on your walks. You went on your, you know, climb to Mount Snowdon, didn't you? people there are over seven billion people why should you not be specific like you might like you like going on on your walks you went on your you know climbed mount snowden didn't you that was impressive so someone wearing mountain boots you know hiking boots you is not going to be an ick for you i looked good in them you looked good in them but you you if if that girl hadn't said it

do you know what i mean what if you had ended up with her the fact that she's got that as an ick obviously you know you can you can ascertain so much from that she probably isn't into hiking isn't into walking or whatever yeah we'll probably be a lot less compatible with you where so it's better you found that out off the bat and she knows what she likes you know rather than like i've just thought of a ridiculous one yeah that's quite common actually but it is when you know like if you're in a shared cafeteria like I don't know why I don't know why the zoos come to mind but somewhere where

you'd go and get food on a tray and when they're looking around and can't find a space to sit what? like what? do you want like

how does that make sense? do you see where I'm coming from? how does it make sense? and girls will go then go yeah I never talk to them after that I'm like what?

like yeah what can we do what we can't do any we just have to sit here in silence that's probably a nick as well like no truly my biggest ick with everything like in life is mouth sounds so there's some people that just need yeah like smacking a lip so like if they were like well daisy yes i went here or um like just just have a sip of your water because you've got too much saliva roaming around that especially because i work with microphones i think it's like really sends me sideways yeah um i've got an ick story and then like a general lick

a general lick is people who don't care about smells so big tick i i i don't get it how do you that's that i do smell good by the way how do you let yourself out the house smelling bad like i'm making sure i drink water now no honestly like and i've always been like this site since i was a kid i've always like i was i'm eight years old i was like putting deodorant on i've always been like mad on smells but my dating ick story um i took a girl two summers back. Was it last summer? Last summer to this place called Mia Mama on the King's Road. Yeah.

It's not too bougie, but it's like a nice rustic Italian. Italian food for a date is just safe bet. Do you know what I mean? So we get there and the food is incredible. She looked great. I look great. You know, it's brilliant. So like food comes and she ordered the, what's the like squares with food in it?

There's pasta. Ravioli. That's the one. Ravioli. My god, you don't know that food. That was an it. That's what would happen right now.

Heaven forbid. Heaven forbid. And then it's like, wow. Oh, wow. I mean, Daisy,

Daisy, this is shocking. It's just so bad. So I've ordered it and I've said from the outset, and there's a whole different debate. I said, I'll get this right. Yeah, it's a different debate, but it comes and she's got the ravioli So I've ordered it. And I've said from the outset, and it's a whole different debate. I said, I'll get this right. Yeah, it's a different debate. But it comes and she's got the ravioli.

I had carbonara. And she goes to take a photo of the food. I'm eating. And next thing I know, she's grabbed my hand, moved my hand and taken the photo to remove me from the photo. But I'm paying for dinner. I'm sorry. But I said, I could see you. She said but I'm paying for dinner. I'm sorry, but like, I said to her,

what? And she's like, I could see your ring. I was like, and? She's like, oh, I didn't want people to know we were here.

I was like. She picked up your hand, didn't just say, oh, would you mind just like moving? She moved my hand out the photo and then took the photo. That was wild.

Also, I think loudly just declaring, I don't want anyone to know that I'm on a date with you. Yeah, that's a bit, I'd be like anyone to know that I'm on a date with you yeah that's a bit I'd be like that's rude

because if a guy did that we would judge that I mean if I was a harsher guy I 100% could have just bolted out the restaurant and seen it then and be like you pay for that

yeah yeah yeah good luck with that Bill and then it was on her feed the next week not even just on a story it was a feed pic oh so you saw it

you were like I was there yeah yeah yeah tag me tag me it was was a feed pick oh so you saw it you were like i was there yeah it was such a lovely meal i couldn't believe it wasn't she really rude to the waiters yeah yeah so um mega rude never said please thank you anything like that and clicked the waitress yeah this is huge for me being kind to a waiter is like number one because anyone that is kind to anyone that gives you a service i don't know why people are so rude to people that give you a service, but being kind to people that maybe don't matter, like people that they don't love, like their parents,

that is massive. That is number one. That shows so much about them as a whole overall person. Yeah, 100%. Imagine thinking you're above someone because of the current position they're in. In two years, they could be ceo you know what i mean but also like there's waiters that absolutely adore their job anyway like that's

a job and that's an amazing job that you're serving people and you get to meet people all of the time yeah yeah like that's what i don't understand yeah i don't understand the maths that they're doing to allow them to be rude to allow them to think that they're better than them i think it's because they think they're in a better place or whatever, which I think is based on delusion. And that's where ics are, you know, can be banter.

And I think sometimes if you actually like the person, they could do anything. Like biting nails gives me the itch. But if I love someone and they're biting their nails, it probably wouldn't bother me. But actually at the end of the day, like being kind is just the ultimate what yeah deep down um okay well thank you guys for joining me we're gonna swap in some more team members now

uh did you have fun yeah it was good thank you for having us no worries thank you so that's we're gonna welcome in mattie lee and emily now hey it's daisy i really hope you enjoyed part one of that episode you can now go and find part two wherever you're listening. And that's where we delve into meeting people at the gym, approaching people at the gym and generally as well, meeting people in real life. And well, a little bit more on love and relationships. at Daisy Dates Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. You can follow me personally at Daisy Bell on TikTok and Instagram. And of course you can follow FitFCK on all social media platforms. And head to part two and I'll speak to you very soon.