Dan Wootton Outspoken - ANDREW ARREST SPARKS HISTORIC CRISIS FOR ROYAL FAMILY WITH CALL FOR WILLIAM TO BECOME KING

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The British monarchy faces its most perilous fight for survival since the abdication crisis 90 years ago as Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor – the brother of King Charles and uncle of ...Prince William – is arrested in an audacious police raid on the King’s Sandringham Estate on his 66th birthday for misconduct in public office, as he is now facing potential life in prison. It’s a breathtaking development on a historic day for the Royal Family for all the wrong reasons, as royal author Andrew Lownie predicts Andrew WILL face charges, but that his ex-wife Fergie and the princesses Beatrice and Eugenie will also be dragged into this massive scandal. Many royal experts are predicting this quagmire will lead to the abdication of King Charles and Prince William taking the throne and ex-head of royal protection Dai Davies has told us today that this is a cover up that goes to the heart of the British deep state. Dan will take you through the coverage on Andrew’s arrest and the new abdication crisis you won’t get from the MSM in a special Digest next. Then Christine and Neil Hamilton join us for analysis. PLUS: A Charlie Kirk-inspired death threat against Rupert Lowe has erupted online - which he attributes to Laila Cunningham's description of his new party as ‘Neo-Nazi’. The bitter war between Reform UK and Restore Britain hits a shocking new low. We’ll bring you all the latest. AND: Tommy Robinson defies an ISIS threat by vowing to return to London for the Unite the Kingdom rally, but overnight he has arrived in the US, where he is believed to be safer given the Islamist attempt to harm him. We’ll show you what he has to say. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: A special live edition with Lady Colin Campbell on how the monarchy can deal with the biggest threat to its survival in 90 years after the arrest of ex-Prince Andrew today. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:23 No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 430. And breaking right now, the British monarchy faces its most perilous fight for survival since the abdication crisis 90 years ago. As Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the brother of King Charles, the uncle of Prince William, is arrested in an audacious police raid on the King's Sandrinema State on his 66 birthday for misconduct in public office. as he now faces a prison sentence. For your brother's arrest, Your Majesty, how are you feeling after your brother's arrest? Are you concerned about Andrew's arrest, Your Majesty? We start with breaking news about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. The BBC understands that he has been arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It is an absolute bombshell. I mean, to put this into context, there has been no member of the Royal Family arrested in my honour. arrested in my lifetime. I'm 60 years old. You have to go back centuries to the last time that a member of the British royal family was arrested. It is a breathtaking development on a historic day for the royal family for all the wrong reasons. As royal author Andrew Launey predicts Andrew will face charges, but says that his ex-wife Fergie and the princesses Baitris and Eugenie will also be dragged into the scandal.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And I was very concerned that he would do a midnight flit and evade justice. And I wonder if the police have also got news along those lines. No, I think there's enough there for some pretty serious charges to be leveled. And we have to remember the maximum penalty for misconduct is life and prison. Do you think that Fergie Beatrice or Eugenie should be worried about their exposure to criminal liability? Yes, I mean, they're clearly immaterial witnesses. They may well have been involved. they should certainly be interviewed under caution.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And I think there may well be charges level, certainly against Sarah Ferguson. Many royal experts are also predicting this quagmire will lead to the abdication of King Charles with Prince William taking the throne. That if it does turn out that Charles was involved in the cover-up, that his position will become very hard to retain. And this isn't just about the British Royal Fulpherson.
Starting point is 00:06:11 family as ex-head of Royal Protection Di Davies tells us today, this is a cover-up that goes to the heart of the British deep state. This has been swilling around in the palace within a variety of different sources, including government ministers, I allege. Who knew? How long have they known? And these are questions we should be asking. Could it even bring down? Slippery Starmat? Well, look, I will take you through the coverage on Andrew's arrest and this new abdication crisis that you won't get from the MSM in a special digest next. Then, Christine and Neil Hamilton join me for analysis. Also coming up on the show today, a Charlie Kirk inspired death threat against Rupert Lowe has erupted online. He attributes it to Leila Cunningham's description of his new party as neo-Nazi
Starting point is 00:07:02 as the bitter war between Reform UK and Restore Britain hits a shocking new low. Tommy Robinson defies an ISIS threat by vowing to return to London for the Unite the Kingdom Rally, but overnight he has arrived in the US, where he is believed to be safer, given the Islamist attempt to harm him. We'll show you what he has had to say. And Tom Cruise quits London as the woke madness in Sadiq Khan's failed capital city, puts all our safety at threat. Then we're going to have a very special Royal Uncanceled Aftershow today. It will stream live on Substack, but also here on YouTube. it is a special live edition with Lady Colin Campbell who breaks her silence
Starting point is 00:07:42 on how the monarchy can deal with the biggest threat to its survival in 90 years after the arrest of ex-Prince Andrew today. As usual, we will also reveal a new Greatest Britain and Union Jackass at the end of the show. Here are your nominees today. You can vote right now in the live chat on YouTube. Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, nominated by Christine Hamilton, who says he is a disgrace to his family and to the country. Leila Cunningham, who I've nominated for calling Restore Neo-Nazis, and Sir Kirstarmer, nominated by Neil Hamilton, for blocking Trump from using RIF bases to strike Iran.
Starting point is 00:08:19 It is a huge day of breaking news. We will keep you across it all. Keep your feedback coming in too. I'll share the best at the end of the show. But now, let's go. It was the breathtaking news that we might have all expected. But given the implications for King Charles's reign, and the survival of the British monarchy itself,
Starting point is 00:08:46 it somehow felt like a historic hammer blow all the same. On the morning of his 66th birthday, Thames Valley Police arrived en masse at the King's Sandrinema State to arrest his brother Andrew Mountbatten Windsor at the Wood Farm Cottage occupied by the late Prince Philip in his dying days for misconduct in public office. Over suggestions in the Epstein files, he shared state secrets with the disgrace paedophile, a crime that could see him facing life imprisonment. Here's how the news broke all across the world.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, the brother of the king, the uncle of the future king, has been arrested for misconduct in public office at the King's Sandringham estate in the past two hours. We have major breaking news developing at this moment. The former Prince Andrew, the brother of the king, arrested in connection to the Epstein files. It's hard to think of any precedent for this. We're getting new information just in. The police have arrested Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. It's an extraordinary, extraordinary revelation and development on this story.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Breaking news to bring you now. Thames Valley Police say that Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, has been arrested. on suspicion of misconduct in public office. We start with breaking news about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. The BBC understands that he has been arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office. Now the royal family attempted business as usual today, but of course that just wasn't possible. Good afternoon, Your Majesty. Your Majesty, how are you feeling after your brother's arrest?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Your Majesty, how are you feeling after your brother's arrest? Have you spoken to your brother, Your Majesty? Are you concerned about Andrew's arrest, Your Majesty? By lunchtime, Buckingham Palace delivered a historic statement from King Charles, when he never wanted to release, given claims he contributed £1.5 million to pay off Virginia Geoffrey, and given his decision to ludicrously try and bring Andrew and even Fergie back into the fold. But it was a historic statement which read. a statement from His Majesty the King.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I have learned with the deepest concern the news about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and suspicion of misconducting public office. What now follows is the full, fair and proper process by which this issue is investigated in the appropriate manner and by the appropriate authorities. In this, as I have said before, they have our full and wholehearted support and cooperation. Let me state clearly, the law must take its course. As this process continues, it would not be right for me to comment further on this matter. Meanwhile, my family and I will continue in our duty and service to you all. Charles R. At that exact moment, Andrew, who 66 years ago was born at Buckingham Palace, was believed to be having his rights read in a police cell, where he could
Starting point is 00:12:17 be held overnight. Here's what the former head of Rural Protection Dai Davies told me earlier. Well, first and foremost, he'll be read his rights. Once you get there, he will be told he doesn't have to say anything, et cetera, et cetera, and any comment he makes will be written down. He'll be treated like any other prisoner. He'll be searched and initially placed either in an interview room or a cell until the officers are ready to do a tape recorded interview. And it will be taped, I would imagine he would have the right to have a solicitor there, and I imagine if he was sensible, he would. And I suspect until he's had proper legal advice, knowing to some extent what the allegations now are in terms of what the Thames Valley are doing and anyone else, then he would
Starting point is 00:13:07 stay quiet until he sought that advice. And once he has that, then they would restart an interview and questioned him again under tape and he has the right to say no comment. And I suspect if he's sensible unless he wants to plead guilty to anything, he would say no comment until I've taken legal advice, is what I would do.
Starting point is 00:13:28 But this is just the beginning. After years of delaying the inevitable, nine police forces are now investigating Epstein's activities with Andrew on the Lolita Express, with the ex-prime minister, Gordon Brown, submitting a new dossier of evidence today. So this could be the first of many arrests.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It could lead to the first of many trials. And it could finally expose the corrupt nature of the British deep state, which Davies, Di Davies is convinced, has been engaged in a Watergate-level cover-up. This has been swilling around in the palace within a variety of different sources, including government ministers, I allege. Who knew? How long have they known?
Starting point is 00:14:18 These are questions we should be asking in terms of this trade envoy. And then we can come on to the issue of alleged sexual trafficking. So, Ty, what you are suggesting is a full deep state cover-up here. And that could actually have serious consequences for people outside of Andrew and the British Royal Family too. Yes, quite simply, yes. You know, you don't give away 12 million pounds allegedly if you are a family without properly getting somebody, a private detective some of us would have to use to look at all the case facts. You would have a proper examination. Now, we don't know what went on, but clearly somebody looked very carefully into this to actually pay money to a woman,
Starting point is 00:15:09 as you've said many times and other contributors, he didn't know, etc, etc. Now, meanwhile, today, the King decided to keep calm and carry on. Here he was speaking with Stella McCartney about sustainable and scalable sequence during the opening of London Fashion Week. The Queen was also there. Of course, she met Anna Wintour, the ex-Vogue editor, massive supporter of the monarchy and the royal family posted on the first day of London Fashion Week, Dame Anna Winter, met the Queen at Clarence House to discuss British fashion and the work of the Queen's
Starting point is 00:15:50 Reading Room, a charity dedicated to promoting and celebrating the benefits of reading. Keep calm and carry on. But Pearce Morgan, on Fox and Friends, accused Andrew of treacherous and treasonous behaviour. Watch. It is an absolute bombshell. I mean, to put this in to context. There has been no member of the Royal Family arrested in my lifetime. I'm 60 years old. You have to go back centuries to the last time that a member of the British Royal Family was arrested. And this is a serious matter. If he is convicted of misconduct in public office, then the vast majority of people that receive that kind of conviction end up with a prison sentence
Starting point is 00:16:39 and the maximum sentence is life imprisonment. And this is the King's, brother, who remains, eight in line to the throne. So this is, like I say, an absolute bombshell, not completely surprising, because I think the tone of the King's statement last week clearly opened the door for the police to make a move. I think it's important to clarify here that the arrest is not in connection with anything to do with the sex scandal involving Epstein. This is very specifically about his behavior when he was a trade envoy. which is a government appointment. He was acting on behalf of the country
Starting point is 00:17:17 for about a decade in which he traveled around the world as a kind of business envoy for the country. And during that period, we now know from leaks from the Epstein files, he was giving Epstein. Remember, a convicted pedophile, he was giving him the information he was getting off-secret information as a trade envoy. I mean, this is treacherous, treasonous behavior
Starting point is 00:17:41 by a man who is the brother of the king of this country now. So these are very serious allegations. And, of course, once there's a police investigation, they've been raiding all his homes now, they'll be taking all his devices, everything they can find that may relate to this. But that might also, of course, uncover more information, more evidence about the other incredibly serious allegations against Andrew,
Starting point is 00:18:07 which is that he, of course, committed sex crimes involving Virginia Jufray. And of course, as we come on air right now, the police are searching not just the King's Estate at Sandrine, but Windsor, too, and Royal Lodge, the former home of Andrew. But this is about so much more than the disgraced Duke, unfortunately. And I say this as a royalist, but there are growing fears that King Charles simply won't
Starting point is 00:18:40 be able to survive an Andrew criminal trial, which, remember, would be held in his majesty's court, as Tom Sykes of the Royalist outlined to me earlier. I find the King's sudden conversion to the cause of open justice somewhat surprising, having covered up for Andrew for the past 20 years. But that said, the police did go and arrest Prince Andrew this morning. And I think that is something that we as British people can actually be bloody proud on Dan. And I think
Starting point is 00:19:17 that, you know, that the king and the palace were not informed in advance. They've been very clear about that. And the king, I get the impression, has made it very clear that he does want justice to take its course. And the chips will now just have to fall where the chips fall.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I suspect that if it does turn out that Charles was involved in the cover up, that it will be very, his position will become very hard to retain. Now, if Andrew were to invoke the so-called Paul Burrell defence, which resulted in the collapse of his trial, remember about two decades ago now, given it involved, his defence involved the late Queen, Elizabeth II, Sykes believes Charles at that point would have to advocate. But either way, either way, Sykes.
Starting point is 00:20:09 says William, Prince William, must take control of the monarchy today. It's the use and abuse of executive power to shield yourself when you know the truth. That is the danger here for Charles. And I'm sorry, but if that is proven, and if that comes out, if this trial collapses, because Andrew says, well, I told my brother all about it, and that the poor borough defence comes into play. I don't see that I think they do have, they're very lucky that they have this amazing kind of parachute,
Starting point is 00:20:48 which is that they can say, okay, we're really, really sorry. Charles is going to abdicate and William's going to take over. There's even a lesser version where Charles kind of becomes King Emeritus, and they say, okay, operational control, Charles is really ill, he's got really bad. They're very fortunate in a way that, They can use that as an excuse. But whatever happens, one way or the other, today, William needs to take control of the monarchy.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Today. Okay. How would that look exactly? Effectively, this is the time for William to launch his modernisation project. And that has to mean a whole load of things, right? It has to mean Eugenie and Beatrice being stripped of their titles. It has to mean Harry and Megan being stripped of their titles. It has to mean Archie and Lily no longer being in the line of succession.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And it has to happen now. There is no longer this opportunity to wait. Yeah, well, there's an old expression in, you know, crisis management, isn't there? Dan, and Lauren will know all about this. Never waste a good crisis, you know. And there is the opportunity, there is this amazing opportunity now for William to come in, to take control and to make this, to actually find some silver lining out of this whole disastrous situation and do those things that so obviously need to be done. I mean, it's so obvious that Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie should not be
Starting point is 00:22:21 swanning around the world trading on their H-R-H titles. I mean, it's just so unbelievably obvious. You know, it's so unbelievably obvious that Princess Lillibet and Prince Archie should be normal citizens. They don't even live in this country. Their parents have denounced the royal family from which their titles come. I mean, it's absolutely absurd and it is so obvious now. And if William does not take this opportunity, I think he will rue it for the rest of his days. This is the chance. So this is also a perilous time for the king. I know it's a perilous time for the king because any time the king is in deep trouble, he sends out his close friend, Jonathan Dimbleby.
Starting point is 00:23:13 This was Dimbleby on the BBC today trying to defend our monarch. I think that my first thought is that the king has made the statement that we heard just earlier. That does not surprise me at all. Not at all. He's head of state. He is at the apex.
Starting point is 00:23:37 He is the crown in this respect. So were there to be, were there to be a trial, were there to be a charge, it would be in the name of the crown of the king. But it would be in character as well. He made it very clear earlier that he would cooperate with the Thames Valley police. Were there to be any questions that they would like him to answer? So I think that it demonstrates the oddly. perversely, if you like, because people talk about the damage to the royal family. It demonstrates actually the strength of the Constitution in this respect,
Starting point is 00:24:12 that the police have acted without fear of favour. I don't know. I think it's a bit naive, given this is just the start of what could become a constitutional and legal catastrophe for the monarchy, specifically Charles. Now, all of this, of course, was first unraveled by Andrew Launy in his game-changing book on the House of York entitled, he has revealed today,
Starting point is 00:24:40 and this is new, that the reason the police potentially moved on Andrew's 66th birthday early this morning, the car's turned up at Sandrinell at 8am, was because the disgrace duke was preparing to flee the country. Watch.
Starting point is 00:24:59 This is not a development I expected quite so quickly. welcome it. It's in many ways long overdue. There's been so much evidence mounting against him. And I was very concerned that he would do a midnight flit and a very justice. And I wonder if police have also got news along those lines. So we must now see what happens, what he's going to be charged with. But clearly, there has been plenty of evidence in the Epstein releases to support this. Now, Lowney said the cops also needed to move quickly because there are fears that papers had been destroyed since December. However, a lot of you have said, oh, Launee wants to bring down the monarchy.
Starting point is 00:25:38 He also said that this decision to arrest Andrew today will end up saving the monarchy. Watch. Yes, I mean, I think the fact that they went to at 8 o'clock in the morning suggests that they needed to move very quickly. I've written about the fact that papers have been destroyed since early December, I think with the support of other members of the royal family, and this was deeply concerning. But clearly there's enough evidence from these Epstein leaks for, I think, a prosecution to be mounted. And it does appear that justice will be served. So thank goodness. Do you think the speed of the arrest, so it's much quicker than Mandelson, who hasn't been arrested yet? Do you think that suggests that there is more powerful and compelling evidence?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yes, I've always felt there was more evidence with Andrew than Mandelson. I mean, he was more deeply involved and for a longer period with Epstein. Actually, he had more opportunities in some ways to leak material. But, yeah, I thought that they would test the ground with Mandelson. And that would put them in a position where if they prosecuted him, they would have to prosecute Andrew. But they seemed to have jumped that. I think the power of the media pressure and indeed public pressure has helped push this.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And I think it has been about saving the monarchy. And I think this will do the trick. Well, I hope so. Lani says the tipping point was, of course, the release of the Epstein files, but he does say there is more bad news to come for Andrew, including news of a five million pound bribe in Kazakhstan. I think the tipping point was actually, you know, the last few weeks with just the detailed material here, which did back up the sort of stuff I got.
Starting point is 00:27:14 So, for example, the leaking of material to David Rowland about the Atlantic banking crisis when he was buying a bank in Iceland. The sharing of information about when he was on trips in Southeast Asia, looking for development business opportunities in Helmand Province, the treasonous stuff that he revealed to deal with defence issues, which, I mean, people have come forward and said it could have been very damaging if it got in the wrong hands. The insider trading, in effect, material on the rescue of BS. But there was lots and lots of other stuff about Andrew,
Starting point is 00:27:48 which I was amazed people didn't really follow through with. the help the Selman Turk case in 2022 when he clearly was receiving money. And I think they're going to now be big questions about why things weren't done sooner and stories that we couldn't put in the book, but I hope we can now put in about, for example, the $5 million bribe in Kazakhstan. So a good day for British justice, if not a very good day for the former Prince Andrew. Could there be other senior staff members of Andrew who are dragged in, possibly? what?
Starting point is 00:28:24 I should say that I think people like Amanda Thursk and David Stern and people who clearly work very closely with them, I think they should also be investigated, and I think there may be good grounds for them also to be charged, given what we've now seen in the Epstein revelations. But no, I think there's enough there for some pretty serious charges to be leveled. We have to remember the maximum penalty for misconduct is life and prisonment. And just in regards to David Stern there, he's a huge character in the Epstein, emails, thousands of them, does it seem to you that after Andrew supposedly cut off contact with Epstein, that David Stern was then the middleman for all of those years afterwards?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yes, I think he's clearly one of the crucial figures. I mean, there are a number of these figures. I mean, Dominic Hampshire was one. There were various frontmen that were used, and that's a very standard sort of practice in these sort of circumstances. But David Stern does seem to be a major figure. I mean, clearly, David Rowland as well. I think there's a good case for him to be questioned. I mean, he was doing a lot of business with Andrew and through Andrew. And he's remained silent. He's never responded to any of the articles. And I think the police should be looking at him too and his son, Jonathan. Where things get very tricky for Charles is that Launy says that there are files that might be at Buckingham Palace and that the king should give up
Starting point is 00:29:42 if he truly does want to cooperate with the investigation. Although the records of the NDAs, I think the problem is if all these records have been destroyed over the last two months, that may be more difficult, but there must be the palace itself, I suspect, because he had an office in Bucking Palace. People were keeping an eye on him, including intelligence services. So there must be a lot of material that was gathered that perhaps isn't in his control that could be surrendered. And so this will be the really defining moment. Is King Charles prepared to really cooperate with law enforcement or as this has been winter dressing? And I'm more encouraged this morning than I was yesterday. And do you think there still might be a deference from the police to the palace, or do you think
Starting point is 00:30:21 the police will be very confident now in asking the palace exactly what they need? No, I think the palace are basically saying to the police get on with it. That's my impression. I think the police know that there would be a public outcry if they didn't do their job and indeed, watching the media. So I think they now will go ahead without fear or favour. What about Fergie? What about the princesses, Eugenie and Beatrice? Should they be worried about criminal liability? Launie says yes. Do you think that Fergie Beatrice or Eugenie should be worried? about their exposure to criminal liability?
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yes, I mean, they're clearly immaterial witnesses. They may well have been involved. They should certainly be interviewed under caution. And I think there may well be charges level, certainly against Sarah Ferguson. So I do think that this is only the beginning of the story. The other problem for the King is that he has known for a long time about this. The financial statement with Dufre goes to the very heart of the monarchy. And Launy says that he views this as financial.
Starting point is 00:31:21 corruption abetted by the monarch. And that's, I think, where we get to the potential stage of an abdication. And I think the big problem he's got is that he's known about this problem for a long time and he hasn't dealt with it. In fact, they've tried to push it under the carpet. And anyone who raised it was basically either it was denied or they had legal threats or there was some strong-armed tactic used on them. So I think the big question, it's now getting to to write to the heart of the monarchy, is what did he know, when did he know it, and what did they do? I mean, this, I've always said, this is a story about financial corruption at the heart of the royal family, abetted by the monarch itself, the late queen, and possibly by our present monarch.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And I'm afraid if it does emerge that Charles knew all about it, then I think there's going to be a public outcry, and he's going to have to step aside for William. I think we're getting to that stage. Okay, then we get to the political ramifications of this because there is growing anger, excuse me, about what seems to be a two-tier nature, about how there have been witch hunts against celebrities like Russell Brand and Andrew Tate, while Andrew's behavior has been hiding in plain sight for 15 years. Try and destroy my influence by accusing me of sex trafficking. They didn't have the evidence that they have on Prince Andrew.
Starting point is 00:32:55 They had no evidence against me. And not only was I arrested, I was put in jail for four months. All of my assets were seized. Every bank account, all of my cars, all of my watches, my gold, my crypto, everything was taken. I was slandered in the media endlessly and locked in my house for four years without trial before they eventually threw out the entire case because there was never any evidence in the first place. So I wonder, considering that Prince Andrew has far more evidence against him than has ever existed against me. Will he be in jail for four months?
Starting point is 00:33:28 Will he be locked in his house for four years? Will he lose access to all of his money and cars and wealth? No. And given the complicity of Starmer's Labor government, Alex Jones of Info Wars is suspicious about whether there will be true justice despite today's arrest. This is to compartmentalize it. This is to act like they're responding. And this is to use the official investigation basically to shut it down. Because they know more is going to come out in the files. But it's already been proven that he was thinking as thieves with Epstein and absolutely abusing young women. But it's the money laundering. It's the espionage. It's the selling state secrets that is what this is really all about with Les Wexner and all the rest of these people. And he was like Maxwell getting the funding for the the founding of the Clinton Foundation, mass human trafficking. And then you've got Trump right there in the middle of it for national security.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It'll hurt the country, too bad if this all comes out. He has said that. Not because he's involved, but because he thinks it'll destroy the faith and create the United States. Europe is the capital of these pedophile networks. The UK is the command base. I've been on there 30 plus years, and all the evidence is overwhelming. It's an open secret that MI6 is run by Petaph's. Metaphyls, and MI5 is, here Starmor for decades covered up with the pedophiles.
Starting point is 00:34:55 For 15 years, he was the head magistrate and literally protected the Islamic mass rape gangs, the rest of it. This is their club. This is who they are. And I mean, there is zero doubt this, Supreme Stammer has been covering up the supportive paedophiles in his ranks, and that's before you get to the rape gang scandal. But even he, even Stama, has now been forced to turn on Andrew in public, proving the unprecedented entered times we are now in.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I will ask you straight, should Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, testify? Yes. Anybody who has any information should testify. So whether it's Andrew or anybody else, anybody who's got relevant information should come forward to whatever the relevant body is. In this particular case, we're talking about Epstein, but there are plenty of other cases. It is anybody. who's got information relating to any aspect of violence against women and girls has, in my view, a duty to come forward, whoever they are. Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown has called on police to interview, police to interview Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. You've said he should testify to
Starting point is 00:36:06 Congress, should he voluntarily come forward to UK police? Well, I think that's a matter for the police. They will conduct their own investigations. But, um, One of the core principles in our system is that everybody is equal under the law and nobody is above the law. And it is really important that that is applied across the board. Last year there were calls you'll be aware for a debate in Parliament about Andrew Mountbatten-Winzer and his association with Geoffrey Epstein. Do you now think this should happen? I think there is a debate going on in and around Parliament and there will be no prohibition on that so far as I'm concerned. I think His Majesty the King took strong action actually in relation to this
Starting point is 00:36:55 when he stripped him of his titles. But certainly it concerns parliamentarians. But I wouldn't stand in the way of it. I think it's important that we discuss all of these cases. And what about Andrew and his mental health? Do you care? Are you concerned? Certainly, I'd be very worried if we had another Epstein non-suicide and every mateless of the fake news agents who conducted that famous
Starting point is 00:37:26 news night interview with the disgrace duke has spoken out on this today, watch. I think one of the reasons I'm gobswrecked is because there is something very personal in this as well and we talk a lot about people sort of state of mind and health and all the rest of it. And I suppose I do feel, I feel concern, actually, as I'm watching this story unfold. And I suppose that two things can be simultaneously true,
Starting point is 00:37:58 that it can have been a long time coming. But when it does, there is somebody at the centre of it, and it is a father and there are children, and there is a mental health question. And I suppose that's what's sort of holding me back a bit and saying, this is a pretty serious moment, you know, it's a pretty, it's a grave moment. It's not a sort of jumping up and down moment. No, of course. Now, there are two different schools of thought about what is going on with, I guess, how this abdication should be viewed or the potential abdication crisis should be viewed. And I just want to show you both different approaches here. So first Calvin Robinson, Calvin McKenzie, sorry, who always has his finger on the pulse, ex-editor of the son, says,
Starting point is 00:38:48 I suspect the royal family will face difficult andrew-related questions in the months ahead about what they knew and when they knew it, leading to King Charles handing over the reins to William to give the nation a clean start. The Royal News Network responded saying this is actually not outside the realm of possibility. Now that Andrew has been arrested, the entire family will be under even more scrutiny. The only way to survive is to throw Andrew to the wolves, include Harry and Megan Fulves, good measure and give William a clean slate minus the rot. And I do have to point out, William does have a completely clean slate in all of this. He was calling, remember, for Andrew to be thrust out
Starting point is 00:39:29 of the British royal family all together seven years ago. For seven years, he has argued that Andrew should have nothing to do with the British royal family. But you know, I'm a monarchist and I'm a royalist, And I know there'll be lots of you watching who are saying that actually this isn't even a crisis and this is being used by those on the radical left, the hard left, the Republican left to try and undermine the British royal family. And I hear you. I do understand that. And I do believe there is a lot of that going on, but it doesn't take away from what a seismic day this is. However, I did think there were some words of wisdom from my very good friend, Colin Brazier. And I wanted to share. share them with you. He wrote, Andrew is a venal, sly, preening, shit. But he is not the embodiment of our monarchy. An institution which for a thousand years has survived good, bad and indifferent sovereigns. For better or worse, the crown is the thread that carries our island's story. Today, it's enemies are mustery. For them, this isn't about. Andrew, but sinking a nail into another emblem of an older atavistic Britain.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Churchill said democracy was the worst form of government that had ever been tried, apart from all the rest. When it comes to who our head of state should be, the royals are similarly imperfect. But anyone proposing that an elected president is always the answer hasn't been paying attention. Now, more than ever, we need the historical continuum that monarchy gathers. Britain faces revolutionary pressures. Our culture has been effaced. Our certainties eroded. Our ancestral identity produced. Many on the Republican left want to reset our national clock, a new year zero. Andrew and his vile obsessions have gifted them an opportunity. Nobody who has met the former prince seemed to have a good word to say about him. Was he a product of the deference which governs royal life? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:42 but that same system produced our late queen, Anne and William. The Crown has outlived worst catastrophes than Andrew and will do so again. Today it's not easy standing up for the monarchy, but those Britons, for whom patient, quiet goodwill comes naturally, should do so. Now, my superstar panel. on this historic day for the British royal family, Neil and Christine Hamilton. Now, Christine, I know you're very much in the camp of Colin Brazier here, aren't you? You actually feel like this crisis, while it is a crisis, should not see King Charles forced to abdicate.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yes, I do. I would just like, before we start that, I can't resist the temptation to point out that Piers Morgan was wrong. Oh, good. I always love that. How was he wrong? Excellent. Goodie. Good way to start. In your clip said that this was the first time for 300 years. A member of the royal family had been arrested. Oh, no, it isn't.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I can remember that awful shock. I felt serious shock in 2002 when Princess Anne was arrested because her dog bit somebody in Windsor Great Park. She was charged and was on trial and she had a fine, etc. So anyway, let's put. appears to one side, but he's wrong about that. I do think it's obviously a very dangerous time for the monarchy, but I think talk of King Charles abdicating is very, very premature.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I mean, first of all, we must, Prince Andrew, ex-Prince Andrew, has not yet been charged, so innocent until proven guilty. I think possibly one of the reasons why he's been in wherever he is for so long is because he wasn't prepared to speak until he found himself a solicitor, as somebody said, If he's got any sense, he wouldn't. So you have to get all that organised. But, you know, this is not a young royal throwing up outside a nightclub. This is somebody who's had an incredibly, unbelievably protected life.
Starting point is 00:43:55 He's had everything that life could give. And he has thrown it all away. He's abused it. He's incredibly arrogant. And I think, you know, he's had it. He's got it coming to him, I think. I know I've just said innocent until proven guilty. But turning back to the king, I felt, I feel that possibly he actually thinks now he is a great sense of relief that the boil has been lanced.
Starting point is 00:44:23 His brother has been arrested. And in that statement he gave, he could have just said, we will support them completely. But he actually said wholeheartedly. And I thought the use of putting that word wholeheartedly in meant that he really is right behind this. He wants justice done. He's an honest, decent man. And there have been suggestions from some of your guests, things you were showing, that he's in it as well and he knew, etc.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I would be very surprised if that comes out. I really would because, as I say, I think he's a decent, honest man. And I don't want this to bring. Of course, I'm a monarchist. I do not want this to bring the monarchy down. I think we can separate. We're grown-ups. We can separate the conduct of one person who,
Starting point is 00:45:10 happens to be a royal ex-royal prince from the institution of the monarchy, and nobody can put it better than Colin Brazier has. So I think the Republicans are having a field day. Of course they are. They've been thrown the most enormous, meaty bone. But please don't let us let them gnaw it away. Well, Sid. Neil, you're obviously one of our top legal minds,
Starting point is 00:45:34 a barrister amongst many things. So I just want to talk to you about what's actually going to be happening today, because Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, by all accounts, gets no special treatment. We're told that Charles, the king, was not even tipped off about the arrest. So it's his birthday. You have the police arriving en masse to Wood Lodge, sorry, Wood Farm on the Sanjima State at 8am. He's taken away at 8.30 a.m., arrested, now expected to have been read his rights, and potentially, and some legal experts, Neil, are expecting that he will be held overnight in the cells.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Why? What would be the need for that? Is that just something that police do, that they hold people for as long as possible? Well, I think it would be unnecessary to detain him overnight. The police have got all the powers they need to search his houses anywhere where they might look for. documents which support the allegations which have been made against him and on the basis of which he might be charged. But I don't think that it would be justifiable to keep him in a cell or even just in a police station overnight. He will obviously want to have a decent legal advice. I'm surprised if he hasn't done it already that he didn't get a solicitor on a retainer.
Starting point is 00:47:06 against the possibility that this might happen because clearly it was an obvious possibility. So we must just wait and see. I mean, Christine has said that this lances the boil. The problem for the king is there's an awful lot of pus which might come out as a result of doing that. And so we've no idea what the evidence that might be revealed will say. Somebody said earlier on, and this is absolutely right, that once a a legal process starts and searches are made all sorts of other inconvenient facts might be revealed and lead in all sorts of directions some of which we are not aware of at all as yet so it's a very very difficult situation for the entire royal family to be in even though prince andri is
Starting point is 00:47:57 hardly central to the royal family and never really has been he's too far distant from the possibility of a succession for that to be a practical possibility but nevertheless it is obviously deeply embarrassing a stain on the entire monarchy the stupidity with which he and fergie have behaved over so many years some of them just embarrassments now of course it's got to a whole new and much more serious level i don't think that talking about life imprisonment is is very sensible clearly whatever he's done wouldn't justify that but it would be a very serious matter indeed if you were convicted whatever the sentence that he might receive.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And it is a big problem now for the royal family to handle this for this might go on for a very significant time before, even if he is charged, a trial is held. And who knows what else might emerge in the meantime from the Epstein files and all its ramifications. Then we've got the Mandelson case. Well, he hasn't even been interviewed as yet. So, but we'll see what happens there. But all these cases coming together, you know, they could grow in scale and draw into the net all sorts of people who might at the minute be in blissful ignorance of what fate has in store for them. Christine, I want to talk about this with you on a human level. So we even have Emily Maitlis saying, well, what about Andrews mental health?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Do you care about that? And then also Charles, I want to show you Charles today at this fashion week event, Christine. He looks so unwell, so unwell, almost ghostly pale in his face. And of course, this is a man who took the throne and then almost immediately received a terminal cancer diagnosis that he is fighting. do you think for the king's own health, maybe an abdication should be considered? Well, I'm sure that he, I mean, I couldn't agree with you more about the concern for the king,
Starting point is 00:50:14 as you say, he's fighting cancer. His daughter-in-law is, we think, recovered from cancer, but we don't know. They've had the most appalling few years. They really have. He waited so long for this, and almost immediately to be hit by cancer and to be hit by this. And the allegations about Andrew, basically in relation to sexual matters,
Starting point is 00:50:36 have been rumbling along for a long time. He's had all the nightmare with, what's his name, Harry and Megan? I mean, he's really had a very torrid time. One could understand him if he said, I've had enough. I just want to spend whatever is left to me. We don't know how bad his cancer is, of course. He may, we don't know. bit at that. But on the other hand, and I think probably Camilla would be quite glad to be able
Starting point is 00:51:02 to put her feet up for a bit and just be the queen's stepmother or whatever she would be, he also will have the sense of duty that his mother had, which is that this is a job for life until I die. So he will be wrestling. And I'm sure he will have thought about it. And obviously and he and Camilla, I'm sure we'll discuss it, what to do for the best. And it will be for the best of their own health, etc, mental health and well-being, but also for the good of the monarchy. And Charles, above anything else, will want to do what's right for the monarchy. But as I say, set against that will be his belief shared with his mother that abdication is not the thing to do. Of course, they had a terrible lesson in what abdication can do. So I don't know, but I think
Starting point is 00:51:50 I would fully understand if he did decide to abdicate. But we are getting ahead of ourselves. you know, let's wait till ex-Prince Andrew is charged. I'm sure he will be, frankly, although I'm probably not allowed to say that, but I've said it. Let's wait till he's charged, and then the dominoes will start to fall into place. At least we've got William. I mean, somebody said, I can't remember who.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I think it was Colin Bray's here again, that the same system, it might have thrown up the rotten eggs of Andrew and Harry. I think he's a rotten egg, frankly, a very rotten egg. But it has thrown up, I mean, Princess Anne is heaven on stilts. She is a magnificent. woman and she's a magnificent royal and she just works away. I mean, today of all days, Princess Anne was visiting a prison. I know.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yes, the irony of that. She is a superhuman, a superwoman. So let's not forget, you know, the monarchy isn't all these bad eggs. They're just two of them at the moment. Fergie, we don't count because she wasn't royal for heaven's sake any more than Megan is royal. that I answered the question, I think so. Yes, the king. I mean, I feel desperately, desperately sorry, for the king and for the queen.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I do feel a touch of sympathy for Andrew, but he brought it on himself. He did, but it's also about people getting justice, you see, because the problem with the suicide of Geoffrey Epstein, and let me just tell you, it wasn't a suicide. It wasn't a suicide, okay? He was killed. The suicide of Jeffrey Epstein, means that there's a whole load of people who will not face justice and a whole load of victims who
Starting point is 00:53:27 will not get justice. So another suicide in this scenario would be very, very bad. So Andrew in some ways does need to be protected so that justice can be done. And if he is innocent, as I have always said about Andrew, clear your name. Now, we're going to be keeping across all of these breaking developments. I do want to tell you, too, Lady Colin Campbell is going to going to break her silence on this in a special edition of Outspoken live at 7 p.m. Both on Substack but also here on YouTube today given the huge breaking news development. So at 7 p.m. today we will be back with a special live edition of the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow, continuing our coverage of this huge crisis engulfing the British Royal Family as Andrew
Starting point is 00:54:21 Mountbatten Windsor remains in custody. But there is other breaking news today, so I want to get to it. Breaking right now, a sick Charlie Kirk-inspired death threat against Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe has exploded online and he attributes it to Leila Cunningham's description of his new political party as neo-Nazi. I couldn't believe it when I saw this. I can't believe what Laila Cunningham has done. This is the same woman, by the way, who went on the Sun's TV channel and claimed that I, their former executive editor, was far right. Restore Britain have posted on this saying they will come after Rupert Lowe with everything they have. We must stand by this man. Now, what they are referring to is this post from a scumbag called Ginger Tom,
Starting point is 00:55:17 who superimposed Rupert Lowe's face on the moment that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And it came in the hours after this clip of Laila Cunningham making her totally outrageous claim on GB News went viral. Watch. I mean, they're talking about, if you're not white and Christian in this country, you're not British, right?
Starting point is 00:55:46 They're going back to some. kind of like neo-Nazi Aryan race. If you're not white, I mean, I've heard their spokesperson on talk TV and on TV saying, if you are not white and Christian, then you're not deemed to be British. And you know, that flies in the face of wanting integration and assimilation. Because no matter how much you integrate or assimilate, according to them, you will never be British. Well, look, I mean, they're not here to defend themselves right now. But the bottom line is there might be people in their party who say one thing who don't,
Starting point is 00:56:11 but that might not be the party line. And of course, they're not there to defend themselves because GP News has banned Rupert Lowe. and banned Restore Britain representatives. But Rupert took to X to say you just called Restore Britain neo-Nazi. It's that sort of rhetoric that got Charlie Kirk shot in the neck. You should be ashamed of yourself. We will not tolerate it. Our legal team is now involved.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And I asked him directly about this during his exclusive interview yesterday on Outspoken. And let's just say that that is total rubbish. And at the end of the day, our party is just. just a group of people who care about Britain and put the British people at the top of the agenda. I think what Layla Cunningham says is nonsense. It's trouble making. I mean, to call us, I think she said neo-Nazis,
Starting point is 00:57:04 and she mentioned the word Aryan, I think most people can see that that reformer incredibly rattled. Now, after this Charlie Kirk death threat went viral, Jonathan Wong revealed that the person, person behind the account, Ginger Tom, seemingly deleted his post. But Rupert Lowe over the course of today has become more and more furious about what's happened. In his latest statement, he raged as a direct result of reform labelling, Restore Britain as Neo-Nazi on national television. This vile death threat was posted online. A picture of me getting shot in the neck just as Charlie Kirk was.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I am furious. Labelling millions of Brits as Nazis has consequences. This dangerous and foul rhetoric is putting my team and I at risk. I'm getting the police involved about this threat to my life, reform and many others need to stop. Now, debate us on our ideas, our policies, our plan for Britain. Do not label us as neo-Nazis or racist because they are going to give some nutter an idea? Quite obviously, that has already happened. A journalist Charlie Simpson with close ties to reform reported that these Cunningham Nazi lies about Restore are straight talking points from HQ itself. Reform and the rest need to urgently dial down their rhetoric about Restore Britain. It is endangering good and decent people. It's like this should not be something that is coming from the right of British politics. And I also have to point out that Leila Cunningham herself in the past has agreed. that she is not ethnically British. As Basil the Great posted, Leila cunning him is a liar and a fraud.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Previously, she admitted she's not ethnically British. Now she claims restore Britain supporters neo-Nazi for pointing out who is ethnically British. Tommy Robinson said, literally contradicting herself from a previous interview on ethnicity. So going by her own logic here, she's a neo-Nazi. And Connor Tomlinson responded by saying, no, Leila, we're just not pretending that vague British values rather than ancestry make someone British. Your inarticulate name-calling won't change that.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Now, what's so interesting is that Elon Musk himself has waged war against Reform UK on this, describing the party as being determined now to wipe out the white population. So you could definitely argue that the war of war. words between restore and reform has ratcheted up a knot as a result to this. And Rupert Lowe added a message to restore Britain members, be ready. They are going to come for us. The establishment, reform, the other parties, the entire rotten lot. It's already started.
Starting point is 00:59:59 We are not in this to make friends. We are in this to fundamentally change how our country is governed. We are in this to restore Britain. That will mean pissing people off and we already are good. that means we're making progress. There will be insults, there will be unpleasant names, ride it out, stay the course, eyes on the prize, I will promise you two things. We are going to stay true to our beliefs and we are going to be honest. Who knows where that will end up taking us? They've skipped the ignoring and laughing part going straight to fighting. We all know what comes next.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Now the thing is, I just wanted to ask Rupert directly yesterday about these claims that Restore was some type of ethno-knat party or based on racism. And he was very clear. So to all of those people who say he isn't being clear on his position, I want to remind you of what he said. I'm not remotely racist, even though Emily Maclis has called me a racist, which I consider to be a badge of honour.
Starting point is 01:01:00 So I have no problem to being called a racist. If that's what people think I'm not a racist, but what I do want to do, and what I think is absolutely essential is to protect the interests of those people who've built this country into what it is today, who pay their taxes, who live here honestly and legally, and who are being crowded out by mass legal and illegal immigration, which is not helping us because a lot of the people who've come in are on welfare, there are a cost to our country, not a benefit to our country, and it's time now to get rid of those people who aren't making a contribution who shouldn't be here. Yes, but the key point is, and Rupert made this abundantly clear, by the way,
Starting point is 01:01:48 on the night of the Restore Britain launch, and as he announced on the show yesterday, there's already 70,000 members after just five days. But he made it very clear on the night that just because someone uses that phrase racist, he isn't going to shut up. I would rather be labelled a racist than to enable rape. Totally, totally right. To my superstar panel, Christine and Neil Hamilton. I mean, Neil Hamilton, come on.
Starting point is 01:02:23 What is Reform UK doing? And I say this, by the way, as someone who voted for Reform UK, I know there's lots of people watching who still support Reform UK, but I cannot sit back as they use the tactics of the hard left. to try and shut down people like me, shut down people like Rupert Lowe, with neo-Nazi slurs, with far-right slurs. What are they doing? Well, the claim is patently ridiculous, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:02:49 The idea that Rupert Lowe is a neo-Nazi and that his party is neo-Nazi is so preposterous that it actually undermines Lila Cunningham, in my opinion. She was very foolish and intemperate to make that slur on Rupert. I don't think a reformer going to get anywhere by slagging off. the opposition which is in the same part of the political spectrum as they are. As Rupert said, you know, yes, by all means debate the differences in policy between us. And they are basically differences of degree rather than principle.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That's one thing. But name-calling and frankly vulgar abuse, which is what this is, isn't going to do them the slightest good at all. All it will do is reinvigorate Rupert and his party. And as a result, I think they will put on more members now than would otherwise have been the case. Yeah, I think that's true. I think the reform do have to be careful now that they had a good week last week, and they are on 28, 30 percent in the polls regularly. But as they become more of an establishment party by virtue,
Starting point is 01:04:07 of the proportion of the electorate will be voting for them and you know they hope to become the government of the country in a very short time there would be an awful temptation to move towards a kind of consensus view within their own party as has happened to the other big parties and so the restore is going to be I think more than just a gadfly opponent I I think that this kind of event that we've seen through Laila Cunningham is just a straw in the wind, really. I think that if they carry on in that way, and I had no idea whether this was inspired from some decision in reform HQ, I rather doubted. I just think that she's a bit off the wall and has very poor judgment. And it's not going to do
Starting point is 01:04:55 them any good as a party. I think Farras is clever enough to realise that. So I doubt that it's got his imprimatur. So at least he won't say anything. I'm sure. to attack Leila or undermine her in public. But I don't think he'd be very pleased that the headlines would this will generate. I mean, the problem is Christine Hamilton. They are always the first to kick off at the left about how these types of claims are putting Farage at risk,
Starting point is 01:05:26 are putting the reform MPs at risk. But yet they think it's okay to do the same thing to a party to the right of them. Well, I couldn't agree more. I can't remember exactly the words Neil used, but I think Laila Cunningham is slightly unguided missile. She's rather untested, and she's going to be very, very prominent as reforms candidate for mayor of London. She's going to be out there all the time more and more and more. And if she's going to say, frankly, utterly stupid things like that, I think they've got to be well.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I'm perfectly certain Nigel will have had words with her in private. You know, rain it in, Leila. You can't go around saying things like that. that. And if anything happens, God forbid, but if anything happens to Rupert Lowe or whoever, I mean, the Charlie Kirk situation, it's beginning to fade in people's minds because it was some months ago and in another country. But I mean, that was such a deeply shocking event. And there is nothing to say that there aren't people like his killer out and about in this country. So I think we all have a duty to be very respectful and not to go over the line in that way
Starting point is 01:06:39 and stir up hatred, which could lead to something really horrific. And, you know, as somebody who's on the right, conservative with a small C, I'm not a member of any party. I'm rather disillusioned with a whole blooming lot, frankly, but I don't want the right to fall apart. I want the right to work together. The last thing any of us want on this side of the space. is to have another sort of Kirstama lefty. I mean, I couldn't agree more, but what I always say to that is that it was Farage, who decided to start saying that, oh, if you're a Tommy Roman supporter, you're that lot, or you're on the fringe, if you believe in mass deportations,
Starting point is 01:07:20 and Rupert Lowe just had to go for that reason. And then they reported him to the police. It's actually Farage and Reform UK that have cut out so many of us that supported them at the last election. That's the problem. Breaking today, Tommy Robinson has arrived in the US of A after ISIS threatened his life and made it unsafe for him to stay in the disunited kingdom. But despite that serious Islamist threat, Tommy has insisted anyone who thinks I'm missing May the 16th is mental. That's the Unite the Kingdom Rally, of course. He says, I will 100% be in London.
Starting point is 01:08:02 for our UTK event. He shared more of what's going on as he travelled stateside watch. We're all aware of the counter-terror warning I had about my life being in danger, plans to murder me by terrorist organisations. So we have received intelligence that an ISIS publication has stated,
Starting point is 01:08:29 has posted within that, I'm encouraging others to commit violence against yourself. So I left the country, mainly left the country, so that terrorists know, and everyone knows, they don't need to come looking for me, yeah? Not in the UK, because that puts all my loved ones and other family members or other people would be in danger in case they thought I was staying at their home. So I'm clearly not. That's why I had to make a point of, I'm not in the UK, yeah?
Starting point is 01:08:52 Left the UK, come back for a day, but just because I'm not in the UK does not mean our workload doesn't stop. In fact, we're going to explode, okay? What's what we have planned? We have lots of work coming. lots of plans and we're in the build-up. Everything is the build-up. I believe May 16th, this may be an idea or to make us scared of May 16th.
Starting point is 01:09:10 No matter what, I will be in London on May 16th for our event. I unite the Kingdom event. It's going to be the biggest event we've ever done. I will be there. And everything I do from now to that point in the build-up to it is to generate excitement around it, generate a noise around that event and make sure the entire globe from every corner of the world
Starting point is 01:09:28 is watching. That citizen journalists and activists, are coming from all over the world to highlight your voice so that Britain can send a message once again to the entire world that we have had enough. Now Tommy actually predicts the UTK rally will bring Slippery Stama down, but he also hit back at those who have criticised him
Starting point is 01:09:46 for going public with the ISIS thread as he reveals the real-life how of living under this type of constant scrutiny. Watch. I think our demonstration falls a week after the elections or two weeks after the elections. So hopefully our United Kingdom event will be the downfall of Labor government because we'll be demanding an election, demanding a new election and a new government.
Starting point is 01:10:10 So it's drastic times I've had to leave the UK, do you think? And I see lots of comments and people criticise me. Do you think I want to be without my family? Do you think I've had to be like this for three years anyway? Sofa served for three fucking years. Do you think I want that? Do you think I want to know that terrorist publications are putting pictures of me up in different countries, telling all of their supporters.
Starting point is 01:10:27 There's 2,000 British Muslims who went to fight for ISIS, trained killers who have come back to the UK who live 10 minutes from where I was in Luton. So do you think I want that? I just read the comments, I think, are you fucking free of all right? What do you think it costs for me to travel, live? I lived in hotels for last three bloody years.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Since I come out of jail, I haven't had a home. I've been sofa-serving hotels, Airbnbs. It may sound good, but it's not. It's really not, yeah? But that's the fight. I'm in this position I've put myself in, and I've willingly done that. And I take it and own it, yeah?
Starting point is 01:10:57 So I'm going to own it for the next foreseeable future. I'm going to be in London on May 16th, no matter what. But I want you to watch what we're going to do. Show us love. I thank every one of you for showing me love and support. We have lots happening, yeah? Onwards and upwards, May 16th, biggest event the world's ever seen. Forget live aid.
Starting point is 01:11:12 You should like the kingdom, London. And he immediately met with the former national security adviser, Mike Flynn, writing first stop in the USA, meeting up with the legend that is General Flynn. But almost as a proof to the fact that he is under threat wherever he goes, look at the reply to this post, which was then reposted by Tommy. When the Baraka Show spoke of the fact that it was huge that Tommy was in the United States of America, someone called Mr. Medical responded saying, Hope he gets Kirked in response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Tommy wasn't hiding away though. He explained the real reason why he is in the USA. That's right. I'm in the United States of America. Can you see how happy I am? It's been a long time coming. I've dreamed about this moment for so long. In 2017, I was given an invite by 10 members of Congress to come and visit here and talk about the decline in free speech in Britain, which now the entire world knows about. But back then, 45 British MPs wrote to the American Embassy in London and they blocked my travel. 45, that's three-time as many MPs who had ever spoke about grooming. They didn't want me to come here to talk about the problems that Britain faces.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Well, tough shit, I'm now here. You hold no weight anymore. You have zero credibility to the British Parliament. The whole world now looks upon you as a laughing stock. So I'm in the United States of America. If you want to keep up to date with what I'm doing here, it's tommy inusa.com. I'm very excited. I have felt American politics.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I've watched American politics. I've been part of American politics for well over a decade. I felt entrenched in it. When I watched the robbery of the election, when I watched the fallout, when I watched the January 6th events, when I saw all of it, I felt every moment,
Starting point is 01:13:08 of it, lived every moment. I don't know why in Britain, we feel a special, when things happen in America, different to the rest of Europe. We feel it. And I certainly feel it. I feel emotionally attached to the place
Starting point is 01:13:18 that I'm not from. But I'm here now. So I'm excited. I'm going to travel the USA. Got lots of great meetings, lots of great people to meet. and lots of great content to bring to you. To my superstar panel, Christine and Neil Hamilton, Neil,
Starting point is 01:13:32 it's pretty shocking, isn't it, that there has been absolutely no outrage about the fact that Tommy Robinson, whatever you think of him, obviously I like him a lot, but I know a lot of people don't, but he has had to flee the country because of an ISIS threat. No.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Reaction, no outrage, nothing in the mainstance. media about it, I just find it disgraceful. Yet he's been welcomed and open arms by the Maga right in the US. Well, you know, we are living in two-tier care country, aren't we? And there is definitely a two-tier system in all aspects of life in this country. And if you're within the kind of consensus area, then you will have praise lavished upon you. But if you're somebody that like Tommy Robinson who is regarded as an outcast by those establishment types, then you can't expect justice. You certainly can't expect protection either from the kinds of dark forces that we all know are very much in evidence in our country. And not only that,
Starting point is 01:14:43 we're importing them every single day with the small boats crisis in the channel. We have no idea who these young men, hundreds of them every day when the weather permits, sometimes as many as a thousand a day who knows how many real villains and ISIS nutters that we are storing up for the future in addition to those who are already embedded in our country hiding away until the opportunity arises to come out and commit some outrage so i have every sympathy with Tommy robinson in fleeing the country because he is definitely at risk from violence and the far left of course believe in violence as a political tool. And it's shocking that nothing has done about them either in effect, because they are fomenting not only dissension in our country, but actually they want to do
Starting point is 01:15:38 everything they possibly can to undermine public order in order to achieve their political ends. And so if the Labour Party is wiped out at the next election, maybe we can begin the process of doing something about this. But at the moment, it's a very, very dangerous time to express the kind of opinions that Tommy Robinson expresses, that Rupert Lowe expresses. And, you know, Nigel Farage and a lot of people in reform who used to be in UKIP have faced this kind of threat in the past. I mean, I remember when Nigel first had a security detail in UKIP as a result of violent threats. I mean, remember the milkshake incident and so on which could have been a very serious threat if the person concerned had wanted to. use a weapon. You know, we've entered a very dark time in our national politics. And when I was growing up,
Starting point is 01:16:31 when I got first involved in politics in the 1960s, we lived through the Vietnam protests and so on. But there was never any violence of the kind that we've been talking about in the last few minutes. So it is actually a monstrous indictment of the way politics has been defiled in this country by the advance of the left over the last 30 or 40 years. It is indeed. I mean, Christine, from a safety perspective, how do you feel? feel about Tommy saying, no, nothing is going to stop me coming back for Unite the Kingdom on the 16th of May. Even this ISIS threat will not stop me. He's an incredibly brave man. Whatever you think of his views, and I know opinions vary, but he is an astonishingly brave man.
Starting point is 01:17:15 He really is. And when you think what he's already had to put up with, I mean, how many times has he been in prison, frankly, for no good reason? And he's been in fear of of his life. I mean, I think he was there at some stage when he only ever ate cans of sardines because he was, all the jailers in his prison were Muslims and he didn't trust the food that they might have given him. So he's put up with a hell of a lot and his family, for heaven. So he's got young children. I mean, he really has put his wife and children on the line, which some people would say is questionable. But if we don't have people like Tommy Robinson on both sides, you know, You have some on the left as well.
Starting point is 01:17:54 But I'm sure there will be people watching who scream at me. But most of this violence, to me, seems to come from the left. It's the right-wing people who get targeted, as far as I can see. And I think what I couldn't understand something that Tommy said when he was his talking from America. He said that he'd been invited over some time ago to speak about free speech in this country. And 45 MPs. I remember that. the hell was that all about? What's it got to do with any member of parliament whether Tommy Robinson,
Starting point is 01:18:27 as a private citizen, goes to talk to the American Senate or Congress if they've invited him? I mean, I didn't know about that. What a bloody cheek. I know. It's just terrible. I remember it happening very well. It's absolutely terrible. And it absolutely shows you why there is this need for the elite class to stop pretending that Tommy Robinson is the bogey man. Seriously. When it comes to the disunited Kingdom's capital city, London, run by an Islamist in our failed mayor city Khan, there's a reason, a good reason why A-less celebrities like Tom Cruise, who used to love being here, are now walking away. Because you are not safe in London anymore, wherever you are.
Starting point is 01:19:18 And anyone who tells you that you are is lying to. to you. So while Tom Cruise may not have come out and said the quiet part out loud, the fact that he has walked says so much about the deep, dark depths of this city. And I was in New York, actually, just last weekend. Trust me, you feel far, far safer in Mandani's New York than Khan's London. Whether that stays the case, I'm not certain. Now, Kemi Badenock, who is the leader of the British Conservative Party, the leader of the opposition here, has said Tommy, sorry, Tom Cruise is leaving London. Here's why it matters. She also made this video, which is now going viral. I have some devastating personal news. My favourite actor, Con Cruz, has fled London.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Like many others, he is an Anglophile who loves our city when he had left. This is becoming a familiar story. People just don't feel safe. Tom Cruise, they're 30, million pound flat overlooking Hyde Park, minutes away from this attack where Hammer and the jetty wielding robbers raided a Rolex store. This matters. Many families, across the country
Starting point is 01:20:35 and particularly in our capital, feel unsafe. And unlike Tom Cruise, they can't just sell up and move so easily. Phone thefts, burglaries, retail crime, so much going without investigation, without consequence. There are real victims per inch of these.
Starting point is 01:20:52 cases. We need a crackdown. For once, Sadiq Khan should do his job and come down harder on these criminals that cause chaos. But the thing that worries me most is that under neighbour's current plans, judges will be prevented from handing out short prison sentences. Mad, I know, because it'll make everything worse, and under my leadership, conservatives will not be supporting their soft touch. You will vote against this measure, and maybe then, Tom Kurz will stop back. But the problem is, this wokeery, which is destroying London,
Starting point is 01:21:30 is everywhere. And actually, no story has made me angrier this week than this one. A TFL advert has been banned for being racist. Peter Lloyd says, aka too realistic, even though it's exactly what harassment looks like on the network. So I just want to show you the ad. That's been banned. Why do you don't want to talk to me?
Starting point is 01:21:57 I'm gonna see you enough or something. I said you look good and you don't want to go out with me. Hello? Can you hear me? Seeing someone else uncomfortable makes you uncomfortable. Now that ad has been banned because it is a black man and his white friend harassing a white girl on the bus. It received just one complaint,
Starting point is 01:22:22 but was banned for reinforcing negative racial stereotypes. It was a Facebook advert pulled after just one complaint from a viewer, which was released as part of TFL's new Act Like a Friend campaign. But it gets worse right, it gets far, far worse. Because the advert was one of three made for social media, which had been cut from a two-minute film. The two other cutdowns featured a white male committing a hate crime against a black woman,
Starting point is 01:22:50 and a white male committing a hate crime against another white male. And that was fine. But the ASA said, we understood there was a negative racial stereotype based on the association between black males, including teenagers and threatening behavior. We assessed whether the advert reinforced that stereotype. The ad showed a black teenage boy verbally harassing a white girl
Starting point is 01:23:10 while the white male friend was shown in the ad and the two-minute film in the ad did not show him as jointly intimidating the victim. The only aggressor in the ad was the black teenage boy. Although we understood that TFL had, intended to present a range of diversity and scenarios across their campaign, we considered the ad when seen in isolation, had the effect of perpetuating a negative racial stereotype about black men as perpetrators of threatening behaviour. On that basis, we concluded that the ad featured a harmful stereotype was irresponsible and likely to cause serious events. And TFL, which is run by Sadiq Khan, issued a groveling
Starting point is 01:23:44 apology. So to my superstar panel, Christine and Neil Hamilton, Christine, no one does. Tom Cruise is out of here. Because actually, one ad which is really trying to present a realistic portrayal of what is going on in London. Because just look at the crime stats. Seriously, black men, especially young black men, are massively overrepresented. As soon as that ad is put out there, it's banned. So it's like we can't to ever save this city if we can't ever talk about what's really. going on and as a result, we're going to see more and more of the Tom Cruises just say
Starting point is 01:24:26 hell no, I'm out of here. It's astonishing. I mean, on so many levels, I mean, to pull an advert because one person complains shows you the makeup of the ASA or whoever it was, it's absurd. One complaint, how many people will have seen that advert? And apparently they've done plenty of adverts showing white people as the aggressors. as you say, the statistic proved that it's far more likely to be a black person. So surely in a way, that is the best advert to put out.
Starting point is 01:24:58 It's sort of inverted racism, isn't it, in a way? It's ridiculous. I mean, a friend of ours, I'm not surprised Tom Cruise has gone. If I had, well, I don't live in London, we've got a flat in London, but we've rented out. I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to live in London and I only go there when I have to for some fun social event or, sadly, a funeral. But a friend of ours was mugged only last week. week and had his phone taken and he was pushed to the ground.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Admitted, people say, oh, well, how foolish of him to have the phone in his hand. He was using it as a sat nav because he didn't know where he was going. He was trying to find his way. Well, you know, what else do you do? You can hardly put it in your pocket and use it as a sat nav. Sadie Khan doesn't seem to care two hoots about it. I cannot understand why he was re-elected last time. And heaven, help London, if he's going to be re-elected this time.
Starting point is 01:25:50 a taxi. I was in London earlier this week and the taxi fellow said to me, we were talking about Kahn and he said, I have never ever, ever, and he's been a taxi driver for donkeys years. He said, I've never ever, and he was a very political taxi driver, they all are, he said, I have never found a single passenger who supported Kahn. He said, who are all these people who vote for him? Well, I think we know the answer to that, but it's, I mean, I despair our wonderful capital city. I mean, you know, I first went to London at, at, at, at, in the United, at the beginning of the 70s, and it was just wonderful. You know, Carnaby Street, the King's Road, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:26:29 It was magic on stealth for a young person like me. Now, it's a hellhole, frankly. Absolute hell. Yeah, it's just not anymore. And I mean, the problem that we've got, Neil Hamilton, is that there are hundreds of Tom Cruisees, actually, hundreds of very, very, very rich people who are just quite.
Starting point is 01:26:50 quietly moving away. Because I'm sorry, Neil, when you get to the point that you cannot hold your phone out in public, I mean, I have been mugged for my phone twice in Sadiq Khan's on. I've had a third attempt. When I was in New York, and I was telling my friends in New York about this, they couldn't believe it. I was like, is it safe to have your phone out, just walking around New York? That's like, absolutely it is.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Well, I remember when New York was very different. It was like London is in the process very rapidly of becoming. but Rudy Giuliani cleaned it all up by his attitude to policing and no-nonsense approach to crime. Of course, Khan couldn't care less about it, as Christine said. He's ruining London. I mean, pretty ruined before he took over, actually, but it's gone into overdrive since he was elected. We know why he gets elected, of course. It's because of ethnic minority identity politics.
Starting point is 01:27:44 And just look at where the votes pile up. throughout the city and that's what's happening in all the great cities of england uh and uh we've allowed this to develop over the last 20 years in particular but actually for the last 50 years or more i've been fighting this battle on immigration for half a century uh since enoch powell raised it in 1968 in his so-called rivers of blood speech and agreed by the vast timing majority of the British public yeah exactly and you know he was maybe a bit premature in the timing of the events that he didn't he wasn't he predicted but my goodness they are happening now and as you rightly say I would never dream of walking in some parts of London during hours of darkness
Starting point is 01:28:33 and when you look at the knife crime and all the tragedies that occur routinely on a daily basis which don't even reach the headlines anymore because they're too common and so Something's got to be done. I mean, I think London as a city needs to be broken up into parts so that somebody like Khan can't, just because he happens to be the colour that he is or represent the political forces that he does, can wreck the capital city of our country and the world's top global city. So it's our window upon the world. Well, I would argue it's not even the colour that he is, Neil.
Starting point is 01:29:10 It's the religion that he practices. But look, do stand by both of you because, of course, you've got your Union Jackass nominees. And we need to see who has won the battle today. But first I just want to get to feedback. And we have so much coming in on the issue of Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, on the issue of whether Charles should abdicate. Josh Spencer writes, the one thing Charles does that really annoys me is he is the head of the Church of England.
Starting point is 01:29:37 He promotes anything but it. And of course, we saw it again this week, comparing how he wrote about Ramadan, compared to how he wrote about Ash Wednesday, against animal abuse, wrote all the other Yorks need their titles removed along with those revolting two in America plus their kids. I wonder what Anne and Edward must think of their brother. Ginger Loughton, who is an outspoken plus member for two months, thank you so much, wrote Palace covered up this issue from 2022. Why now? Why do we trust the palace right now? King Charles is trying to say face. Charles is complicit and must abdicate parents.
Starting point is 01:30:11 The covert customer says, what I'd like to know is who is paying for his legal advice. I hope it's from his own purse and it's not from any of his funding from Charles. After all, that would be a direct conflict of interest. Jackie T3F says if the king doesn't abdicate, he will die through all this stress. And George Norris 6066 says Charles should hand the reins to William. We need stability in the royal family. And of course, one of our nominees nominated by Christine Hamilton today for the worst Britain in the world, today is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. She says he is a disgrace to his family into the country.
Starting point is 01:30:47 The other nominees, Leila Cunningham, who I have nominated for calling Restore Neo-Nazis. And Neil Hamilton has gone for Sir Kyrgyr-Stama for blocking Trump from using R-A-F bases to strike Iran. Okay, the results are in. I'm in last place, guys, with just 10% of the vote. Neil Hamilton, today's runner-up with 36% of the vote for Kiyosthama. But Christine Hamilton, winning today's uni in Jackass with her nomination of Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, who has been named the worst Britain in the world today with 53% of the vote. Christine, I think that was an inevitability today, right? I think it was.
Starting point is 01:31:25 I mean, I ought to be thrilled. I've won, but I mean, I'm not because he's a massive stay on this country. I know. But look, amazing coverage today. Thank you to both of you. That is Christine and Neil Hamilton. You know I absolutely love having you on outspoken. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:31:41 course, because it is a Thursday, we are going to put our union jackasses from across the week head to head to see who will be named the worst Britain in the world this week. Tomorrow, a reminder of the nominees on Monday, Abdul Halim Khan on Tuesday, Nigel Farage, Wednesday, Cadiq Khan, Thursday, today, Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor. That will go up straight after the live show. Today's Greatest Britain, nominated by Christine Hamilton, is Misley Mandarin, who says he has done us all a service by. putting a human face onto Chagosians, reminding us that these are real people whose land has been
Starting point is 01:32:16 stolen from them, and now they seek to sell it on. He is just reclaiming what is rightfully his. Okay, we're just half an hour away from another very special live show. So I would love you to make sure that you are back with us at 7pm UK time tonight. That is 2pm Eastern, 11 a.m. Pacific time, Lady Colin Campbell is standing by. We're going to have all of the breaking news. What is developing today about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, who remains in custody. But she's also going to talk about how the royal family can get over this crisis. A little programming note too. I will also be appearing at the top of the great Megan Kelly's show today, which will be out very, very shortly. We're, of course, covering all of the royal news as well. So I'd love you to be back with us at 7.5.
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