Dan Wootton Outspoken - BBC GROVELLING APOLOGY OVER KING CHARLES ETHNIC LIE TO RUPERT LOWE RESTORE BRITAIN & MATT GOODWIN

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The BBC are forced into a grovelling apology to Rupert Lowe, Matt Goodwin and King Charles after spreading an ethnic lie to discredit Reform UK and Restore Britain via Nick Robinso...n on the Today Programme. But the fascist lies about Restore are also being spread by Nigel Farage, with new claims by the Reform UK leader to the BBC that people around Rupert Lowe are “saying things we've not heard in this country since the 1930s... senior supporters saying every Jew in Britain must be deported" And Richard Tice has once again refused to countenance any reconciliation with Restore. We’re now in the stage where Reform figures are having to keep Farage motivated by telling him it’s his destiny to become Prime Minister and be the next Churchill. Joining me for the whole show is Host of Tomlinson Talks, Connor Tomlinson. ALSO: The by-election triggered by Slippery Starmer quitting is set to become a race war as the Mail’s Dan Hodges accuses Zia Yusuf of racism for raising concerns of Labour’s Somalian born candidate running for the central-London seat. And Green Leader Zack Polanski is wanting to worm his way into the seat too. PLUS: Katie Hopkins issues a shock challenge to GB News over the guilty verdict as she speaks out for the first time about the deranged leftist blackmailing scheme against her. AND: Reform UK say Prince Harry’s biggest threat is his own wife and not terrorists, as Donald Trump speaks out for the first time about the Sussex move as he says King Charles should never speak to the couple again, THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle is humiliated by some of Britain’s biggest acting stars as Theo James, Vinnie Jones and Hugh Bonneville shut down suggestions she could join the Netflix series The Gentlemen. We’ll reveal what it all means with Lady Colin Campbell. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know, the same way you can skip an ad? I get it. I'm Siaia and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today, I'm still figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll.
Starting point is 00:00:22 So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. No, Sven Novias, no sense. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 576. Hope you're having a great day. Breaking right now, the BBC forced into a grovelling apology to Rupert Lowe, Matt Goodwin and King Charles after spreading an ethnic lie to discredit Reform UK and restore Britain via Nick Robinson on the Today programme. Are you aware that by the definitions used in that particular report, King Charles is not a white, Do you think he is a white Britain?
Starting point is 00:01:07 Well, many people have different interpretations of that, Nick. I mean, we can split heads, but I think... You're not splitting heads. Do you think the monarch of this country is a white Britain? It's quite clear. And I think most British people, if you speak to them, would agree. And that is why Restore Britain's membership is growing very fast. And your listeners are dropping equally fast.
Starting point is 00:01:28 But disappointingly, today, the fascist lies about Restore Britain and also being spread by Nigel Farage, with new claims from the Reform UK leader to the BBC that people around Rupert Lowe are, quote, saying things we have not heard in this country since the 1930s, senior supporters saying every Jew in Britain must be deported. And Richard Tice has once again refused to countenance
Starting point is 00:01:51 any reconciliation with Restore. But the rift with Restore is regularly delivering Restore 7, 8, 9, 10%, which is just knocking you off the top slot every time. Now, is it not sensible to try and have some sort of reconciliation? Because I know lots of... No, we're not, Alison, we're not reconciling. It's as simple as that. Okay. Well, that's fair enough.
Starting point is 00:02:18 We are now in a place where reform UK leaders, like Lee Anderson, are quite literally keeping Farage motivated. by telling him, you're Churchill. You are the new Churchill. Proud should be coming back from his holiday for a form conference. Will he lead reform into the next election? I hope so. He's a man we need to walk behind.
Starting point is 00:02:43 He's the hook. He's the one who, he excites the public. Whether you love him or loathe him, I learned early on in politics that you only need 50% of the population to love you to win. You think you will do, though, if you hope so? Yeah, I think so. I think it's his destiny. I've told him this. It's his destiny. He's our next Churchill. So is that going to work ahead of the Reform UK conference, which has started in the past few hours, joining me for the entire show, host of Tomlinson talks on YouTube and substack, Connor Tomlinson.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Also coming up on the show today, the by election triggered by Slippery Stama, quitting as set to become a race war, as the Daily Mail's Dan Hodges accuses he a use of Reform UK for racism. after raising concerns about Labor's Somalian-born candidate running for the central London seat. Meanwhile, Green Leader Zach Polanski wanting to worm his way into Parliament too. Katie Hopkins issues a shock challenge to GB News over the guilty verdict as she speaks out for the first time about the deranged leftist blackmailing scheme against her. And reform UK say Prince Harry's biggest threat is his own wife, not terrorists. That says Donald Trump speaks out for the first time,
Starting point is 00:03:57 about the Sussex move to the UK, as he says King Charles should never speak to the couple again. So there is loads coming up to date. Then you're not going to want to miss this. Lady Colin Campbell is up for the uncanceled aftershow over on Substack. That is at www.outspoken.com. Now, Connor has nominated Piers Morgan today for our union jackass. That's for saying Yusuf is racist because he said someone born in Smalley, shouldn't be able to be a politician in Britain.
Starting point is 00:04:28 He's also nominated Chavani Raja, the Tory MP, for asking the Labour government to stop the NHS charging immigrants so more foreigners with British passports can bring their families to live in Britain. And I've got video for mine, okay? You've got to watch this. I've gone for that awful leftist Nina Mishkoff for this. The sight of thousands and thousands and thousands of people arriving
Starting point is 00:04:54 in one day or over a couple of. a couple of days is a terrifying thing. That is a proper invasion. And so therefore you can understand why they're protesting. So in what's happening to us has been called an invasion. It is not at all the same thing. Oh, I see. So it's an invasion when the migrants are entering sweater. But it's not an invasion when they're entering the UK. Right. She's my union jackass nominee. I do want to hear from you throughout the show today. Keep your superchats coming in. But now Let's go. Total humiliation as we come on air for the British Passion Corporation and its leftist attack dog Nick Robinson on the Today program who have been forced into a grovelling apology
Starting point is 00:05:42 after trying to entrap Rupert Lowe into an ethnic lie about King Charles designed to make restore Britain appear as extremists. And the rest of the MSM, including, by the way, the Daily Telegraph, took the bait and should apologise now too. So during this controversial interview and it was a big deal because you know Rupert Lowe is not often invited onto the likes of the Today program, but I believe he was set up and Nick Robinson had planned to trick him, had planned to defame him, using the definition from this report from Matt Goodwin, a former Reform UK candidate, on white Britain's becoming a minority by the year 263. So the BBC claimed the definition on that report meant that you can only be white British
Starting point is 00:06:27 if both your parents were born in Britain. So in this attempted, and I believe planned gotcha, they asked Rupert, based on that definition, if the king, if King Charles was white British, given that Prince Philip was born in Greece. Watch. Because you quote and have often quoted, what you say is a prediction that white Britons will be a minority in 263.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Are you aware that by the definition, used in that particular report, King Charles is not a white Britain. Do you think he is a white Britain? Many people have different interpretations of that, Nick. I mean, we can split hairs, but I think... You're not splitting hairs. Do you think the monarch of this country is a white Britain?
Starting point is 00:07:17 It's quite clear. And I think most British people, if you speak to them, would agree. And that is why Restore Britain's membership is growing very fast, and your listeners are dropping equally fast. Because you don't reflect actually what's happening. Why do you answer the question now we've got you on? You try and whitewash all of the things that are happening. Is King Charles or white Britain roof at home?
Starting point is 00:07:41 You peddle climate change. You peddle D.I. You peddle all of the malign agenda. Okay. Which British people have got bored of. Right. So they're bored of people ignoring the questions, Mr. Lowe. The reason I ask you, and it's a serious question. I'm not ignoring any questions.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It is a fact that by 263, white British people will be, a minority on current trends. I don't think that's... I don't think anyone disputes that. What I was putting to you is that the basis of that forecast, which is widely disputed and based on a whole series of assumptions that none of us know whether they'll be true or not, is that you're only called a white Britain
Starting point is 00:08:14 if both of your parents were born in this country. So because Prince Philip was born in Greece, King Charles is not under your definition treated as a white Britain. Wrong, wrong, he was wrong, he was completely wrong, and you can understand why Rupert Lowe is sitting there in total frustration because he knew Robinson was wrong. Here comes the correction, which by the way, no one in the mainstream media has reported.
Starting point is 00:08:38 No one has reported this significant BBC correction published on their own website. Let me read it to you in an interview with Restore Britain's leader, Rupert Lowe. We referred to a report that suggests the white British will become a minority by the year 263 and asked whether King Charles was a white Britain according to the definitions it used. The report's author Matthew Goodwin has since pointed out it could include The King as based on ticking the white British box in the census. His report also makes a projection that the foreign-born and their descendants will become a majority by 2079. And it's that element we should have mentioned in relation to the question about the King. Rupert Lowe responded on X, writing good news, the BBC has been forced to issue an official apology over their inaccurate reporting during my interview with Nick Robinson.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That is now the fourth correction and apology regarding my activity the BBC has made in just over a year. Staggering and deliberate bias. And Goodwin called for more apologies, writing, I am glad the BBC have apologised and corrected their point about my report on the demographic future of the UK. There has been much misreporting of it involving the King and who is not white British. The Telegraph has made the same error and should fix it. XGB News journalist Stephen Edgington agreed. adding Nick Robinson and the BBC pushed a shameful lie about Matt Goodwin's ethnic demographic study,
Starting point is 00:10:02 they should prominently report their retraction. But they won't, though, will they? Because this is actually a very significant apology from the BBC because it completely exposes Robinson's supposed killer gotcha. He effectively told Rupert, right, that the demographic research, you keep quoting, says that you can only be white British if both your parents were born in Britain. So therefore, King Charles isn't white British. Cue the predictable headlines.
Starting point is 00:10:32 We remember them. Rupert Lowe can't even say that the king is white British. Restore Britain's definition is so extreme, it excludes the monarchy. The implication was obvious. Rupert was being presented as some sort of ethno-nationalist obsessed with racial purity, except there was an enormous problem. That wasn't true based on the report, which separately looked at people who were foreign-born
Starting point is 00:10:54 and at later generations descended from migrants, and once you understand that, the entire King Charles Gotcha collapses. Prince Philip Bean born in Greece did not automatically remove Charles from the white British category used for demographic projection. The premise of Robinson's question was wrong. So this wasn't some irrelevant statistical slip, buried halfway through the interview.
Starting point is 00:11:18 The false premise was used to put Rupert on the defensive and helped generate an entire media narrative. portraying him and restore Britain of holding a definition of Britishness that actually their own research and their own policy document released just yesterday does not agree with. So instead of debating the substantive issue, Rupert was raising, which is the extraordinary demographic transformation of Britain, the discussion was diverted into the sensationalist, ludicrous and completely unhelpful claim about King E. Charles, based on a factual error too. Now, of course we can debate Goodwin's demographic projections. Personally, I actually think it's going to happen faster. I said that at the time when the Goodwin report was released. I think we're going to be a minority white country on the current trends faster. But let's debate those assumptions. Let's challenge the migration forecast. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:18 challenge the fertility projections, absolutely. But do not invent a definition that isn't actually in the ethnicity calculation, attribute it to Rupert, and then use King Charles as some type of weapon to try and make restore Britain supporters look either ridiculous or extreme. And by the way, it's not just the BBC who are trying to slander Rupert and restore Britain supporters. And this is where Matt Goodwin should hold his head in shame. And so should people who are allowing Nigel Farage to continue down this path. I think it is a dangerous path comparing anti-Semitism in 19. 1930s fascist circles to restore Britain.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Now, this claim was made by Nigel Farage in a new interview with the BBC. However, his words have not been published on video, not on the BBC news, not on the BBC's YouTube page. I looked for it. So we are having to rely on the full transcript with their political editor, Chris Mason, where Farage said, look, you know the problem is some people around Rupert are saying things that we've not heard in this country. since the 1930s, if we have been really honest about it. So they're there. There is there a small percentage vote, very small percentage vote. Some of the ideas they're expousing and, you know, senior supporters saying every Jew and Britain must be deported from the country. Now, what's
Starting point is 00:13:40 interesting there is he is referring to Steve Laws quite clearly, and Steve Laws this week, by his own volition, left the party. Conor Thominson, who will be here shortly, posted this meme in response to Farage's interview, all my opponents are Nazis boo get better material. But of course, it is being picked up by the racebaters on the left, Leitner and Decor, who chimed in he's not wrong, but his own party and he himself has had anti-Semitic allegations are neck high with racism and anti-Semitism, two cheeks of the same ass. And this is the point, isn't it? If you go down this path, Nigel, guess what? The left are just going to come for you and say exactly the same thing. you think you're cleansing yourself, but actually you're opening yourself up to the same attacks.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It's actually got worse today, though. Ahead of their conference, Reform UK are digging their heels in now by suggesting all Restore voters have this view. And I think their tone actually is anything but consulatory. Basil the Great reported Reform UK's deputy leader Richard Tice says they will absolutely not be working with Restore Britain. remember that, the next time Reform tell you they always put the country first. And my friend Alison Pearson, who is a columnist at the Daily Telegraph, but is a great figure on the right of British politics, is actually one of the only people in the mainstream media who I think you can trust. And she clearly knows that there is an issue about the split on the right.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And so she is explaining it here in detail to Richard Tice, who again, and remember it's that lot, Richard Tice. You know, it's that lot. We don't want Tommy Robinson's that lot. And no, we don't want extremist restore supporters. Actually, it's a good thing that they go and form their own party. He said all of that to me. And I think he's responding to Alison here with typical arrogance and entranches gyms. There has just been a council seat election in Dover, which reform was expected to win because he'd done tremendously well down there in May.
Starting point is 00:15:42 The combined vote for the parties of the right, reformatory restore was over 50%. But the Green candidate won on 28% by just 34 boats. And Rupert Lowe's Restore took 10% depriving you of victory. Richard, isn't the worry that this pattern is going to be repeated across the country and the antagonism between reform and restore is going to waive in a lot of those bonkers lefties you're mentioned? Well, that's why people are going to reform. It's very simple. If you don't want that, there's only one party that you can vote for because the Tories literally had 14 years. How much longer would they want it?
Starting point is 00:16:24 They left the country basically in a terrible state. And so people won't forget and they won't forgive the Tories. So if you're worried about that, then people need to vote tactically. And in a general election, people will vote tactically in a different way to that which you see in council by elect. But yeah, that message is clear. Okay, so the message from Tice is basically, we hate you, but we need you to vote for us. And when Alison suggested the possibility of peace, he just responds even more angrily. But the Rift with Restore is regularly delivering Restore 7, 8, 9, 10%,
Starting point is 00:17:07 which is just knocking you off the top slot every time. Now, is it not sensible to try and have some sort of. reconciliation because I know lots of... No, we're not... Alison, we're not reconciling. It's as simple as that. Okay, well that's fair enough. Now, Rupert Lowe saw that
Starting point is 00:17:26 and he posted in response, reform deputy ties has today ruled out any deal with Restore. He went on to label Restore Britain a bunch of ethno-nationalist anti-Semites in an interview with the telegraph. I made an offer to reform for the sensible British majority to coalesce around common sense patriotic policies that will restore
Starting point is 00:17:43 our country, reversing mass immigration, curing demographic security ending the Islamification of Britain, a referendum on the death penalty, restoring a self-sufficient Britain, no failed Conservative ministers. That is what I'm interested in. Reform continue to reject it. Fine, that is their choice. I remain open to talks. Restore Britain has already shifted the entire political debate. Everything has changed. Now we must build to push, to build, to grow on the polls, to win more votes to offer a genuine democratic alternative. And I think the problem for Reform UK, and you can see this in the polls, is that they're fighting on two fronts as well, because it's not just the Tommy Robinson supporters and the Restore Britain supporters who they are losing. It is also the people who are naturally Tories and are behind this.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And look, I think it is maybe overstated in the mainstream media, but this minor chemi renaissance. If you look at the situation between reform and the Conservatives, a year ago, it looked as if the Tories could be all over, and Reform had the big mo. Now the reverse is true. Reform has been drifting in the polls. It's made some unforced errors, and Kemi is getting back up again. But people think that Kemi's doing well, but the reality is that with regards, apart from this one poll today, the poll rating for the Tories, is going nowhere, and people still remember very clearly how they essentially broke the country, and the Labour Party is now bankrupting the country. And whether it's the previous version of Starmageddon, where we said vote reform, get Starmor out, we've achieved that.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But Burnham is a more charismatic personality, and he handled the time in the chamber more interestingly engagingly. But it's just babble. It's just bunkum. There's no substance. There's no gravitas. to it and I think very quickly he will be found out. So again, Richard's only plan is to say just vote for reform. Like, we hate you, we attack you, we deride you, whether you're a Tory or a Tommy Robinson supporter or a restore Bracker, but just vote for us anyway. We hate you, but you must vote for us. The vision in the right doesn't help you and it doesn't help us.
Starting point is 00:20:07 It's very simple. If you don't want any division in the right, you have to vote for us. reform because week in week out, Jacob, you may not like it, but in council by-elections, every Thursday, the Tory vote is way below the polling. It is catastrophic. But your polling, which got up into the low 30s, now on this latest parl, is back to the late 20s. Just look at the weekly by-elections and you'll see a higher percentage than that. We're not afraid of competition. But that is backward-looking. Yeah, it's forward-looking. We're not afraid of competition.
Starting point is 00:20:38 essentially forward-looking. But it's also... It's not... Every week. Okay. There are people voting every week. But the difficulty, I think, for reform is that Cammy now has a front bench team that is fresh. And within reform, there are concerns about whether Nigel Farage is even in this for the long haul.
Starting point is 00:20:57 As their conference begins, we are now at the stage where senior figures in the party are having to keep Farage motivated, likely Anderson, by telling him, this is your destiny to become Prime Minister Nigel. And Nigel, you are the next Winston Churchill. Proud should be coming back from his holiday for a form conference. Will he lead reform into the next election? I hope so. He's a man we need to walk behind. He's the hook.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He's the one who, he excites the public. Whether you love him or loathe him, I learned early on in politics that you only need 50% of the population to love you to win. You think you will do, though, if you hope so. Yeah, I think so. I think it's his destiny. I've told him this. It's his destiny. He's our next Churchill. But Lee Anderson has ruled himself out, taking over from Farage, revealing he will quit politics altogether after the next term.
Starting point is 00:21:53 One day, Nazra Farage may not be leading reform. Would you be interested in... I'll be finished by then. I'll be finished by then. I want to do one more term after this. There are also questions about reforms personnel, Now, so I am hearing that this sting, this Channel 4 sting operation on the party may well involve some of Nigel's most senior allies. We will keep an eye on that. But trust me, I don't trust Channel 4 News, so I want to look into their dirty, dodgy practices. But that could be bad. It hasn't been released yet. I do think it is unquestionable, though. They do seem to
Starting point is 00:22:31 keep on backing the wrong people and pushing the good people away. Like, why have has Jamie McIver all of a sudden became such a big name in the party, having been booted out of the Tories for sending unsolicited dickpicks, something that he failed to deal with in a mortifying car crash BBC radio interview. It's good to have you on, likewise, Harriet and Rosie. Just clear this one up for us. You were accused of being expelled from the Conservative Party after allegations.
Starting point is 00:23:04 You sent an unsolicited picture of your private. parts. What's going on there? Do you know, as everyone is having their cup of tea at 10 o'clock in the morning, and they're worried about paying their bills, they're worried about why the High Street is a disaster, they're worrying about why there's so much traffic going to school because our population is out of control, our Greenbelt being decimated because of the Boris wave.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I think the last thing on your listeners' minds is what I have ever done or not done, but just to be very clear, I left the Conservative Party completely my choice, and I joined reform. I think politicians' behaviour is really, Relevant, to be honest. Did you or didn't you? I left the Conservative Party and it was the best thing I ever did. And I'm not going to go into details about why because frankly I don't see why anyone listening to the show would be at all interested. But what I would like to talk about is Andy Burnham because I have been and I...
Starting point is 00:23:53 McIver has since become a star contributor on G.B. News where he appeared last night with no reference to that interview. He has become such a big name in the party after becoming a particularly close friend of Reform UK's chairman, Zia Yusuf. Then you've got Dean Dory's former Tory claiming her former party is now working with Restore Britain specifically to bring down Messiah Farage, something Rupert Lowe has explicitly denied here on Outspoken. The establishment of throwing everything they have at trying to destroy Nigel Farage and to remove and to destroy reform. They will do everything they can, including the Guardian, including all left-wing printed media, all left-wing, journalist, the Conservative Party, you're probably working with Restore and Rupert Lowe to try and damage to damage Nigel Farage. There will be such a huge concerted effort to try and get rid of him before there's a general election and destroy reform. You will see, I don't
Starting point is 00:24:58 think it's even begun yet. You're probably going to see stings. You're going to see attacks. You're going to see complaints. So let me just make one point if I can. know, there have been three right-wing leaders in this country. There have been, in recent times, in my lifetime, in politics, Ian Duncan Smith, Brexiteer and right-wing leader, removed by privileges committee. Boris Johnson, right-brexiteer, removed by privileges and standards. Nigel Farage, they're trying to remove it using standards. What that those people who are opposed to these right-wing leaders do is they use the tools of instrument which are outdated and corrupt and Kangaroo courts, they use them to remove right-wing, Brexiteer-type leaders.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And that's exactly what's happening to Nigel Farage. They did it with Ian Duncan Smith. They did it with Boris Johnson. They're now using the Standards Commissioner to do it with Nigel. And speaking of Boris Johnson, it looks like the dirty tricks between Reform UK and the Tories are growing by the day. This revelation out of the Reform Conference this afternoon, with Simon Danshek revealing that Nick Candy just told Camilla Tomine,
Starting point is 00:26:05 Timothy Stanley that he has it on good authority, Kemi Baderot, asked Boris Johnson to run against Nigel Farage in the recent by-election, and Boris refused. Interesting. And we are in interesting times. Let's bring in Connor Dominson. So, Connor, can we please
Starting point is 00:26:27 start with this apology from the BBC over the false King Charles ethnic lie? Total vindication for both Rupert Lowe and Matt Goodwin. But Connor, total silence from the mainstream media that decided, do you remember that day?
Starting point is 00:26:45 It was the biggest story in the country. You know, the Daily Telegraph headline after headline over the fact that Rupert Lowe was suggesting that King Charles was not white, British, even though they had run the information in the first place. What we have today, after this apology, groveling apology from the BBC, Connor, is total silence from the mainstream media. unsurprising, Dan, there's a phrase that's often attributed to Mark Twain, which is, a lie makes its way around the world before the truth can get its trousers on. And as you've mentioned, the Daily Telegraph, same thing happened to me with Jake Wallace Simon's writing a hit piece about a far-right conspiracy that has taken over the right
Starting point is 00:27:23 at Rupert Lowe and Tucker Carlson in the thumbnail, and he approached me for comment, and I gave him a very lengthy comment and directed him to my substack post on what I'm going to have to euphemize so your channel doesn't get deleted, Dan, as the large swathe as the large swap conspiracy theory. They included a paragraph in an article, and Jake Wallace Simon said that I was Restore Britain's campaign director, and that my views on the subject were ambiguous. They then had to humiliatingly delete that paragraph and issue a retraction at the bottom of the article, but they never notified me, they never put out a tweet about it. Jake Wallace
Starting point is 00:27:55 Simon has never apologized, and it's because, Dan, the point is, they're going to run these stories with either willful misrepresentations, or they're so stupid and don't care about correcting that it's indistinct from whether or not they're lying, right? It doesn't really matter. Distinction doesn't matter. And then when it should be a moment of humiliation, reflection, contrition for them to correct the record, they just do as quietly as possible and make sure that your name and your reputation is still tarnished by the original attack, and they never retract an issue and apology. So, you know, well, well done to Matt and Rupert for procuring this correction, but I'm not shocked that they're not making much noise about it over at the BBC.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And, Connor, this happened to you again this week, too. from another mainstream media outlet, the eye paper, and you say that they were coming for you because you reject the wishful thinking that ethnicity has nothing to do with national identity. Again, this seems to be, even though you're not a member of Restore Britain, this seems to be another way to try and attack Restore Britain
Starting point is 00:28:58 in the mainstream media. What went on here? Oh, yeah, they did a piece, something, it was titled something like, the dark hard right plot to take down Nigel Farage and it had frankly an offensively awful graphic at the top with my friends
Starting point is 00:29:13 Harrison Pitt, Charlie Downes, Josh Firm and Rupert Lowe and I was mentioned in the article as someone who had dared to say that Rishishishinac is an English because he's an Indian man and that I wanted remigration for illegal migrants, foreign criminals foreigners who take more in benefits than they pay in tax and the entire Boris wave and of course the asylum system overturned
Starting point is 00:29:32 and they asked me for a quote on it again I provided a lengthy quote because lots of people are going to turn around and say, oh, why bother giving them a quote? They're just trying to take you out of context, just trying to attack you, giving them what you want. No, if you appear reasonable to these people and you have it in writing, and then you have a fairly large audience, which I know, I'm very grateful that I do, and especially on your show Dan, you can just put it side by side of what they actually printed and humiliated them.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But they decided to cut off substantial parts of my quote in the article. But the good thing is that the entire hit piece was engineered around just quoting my tweets verbatim, which at this point, you know, people pay for that kind of publicity, because it just makes me look reasonable when I say very plain things like, you know, Rishi Sunak is an Indian man, and we shouldn't be forced to pay for every foreign criminal benefit scrounger from the third world who shows up and sticks their hands out. And funnily enough, more people agree with me than actually read the eye. Connor, despite the fact that there is so much concern in the mainstream media about
Starting point is 00:30:27 Restore Britain at the moment, I mean, that whole eye piece was based on the eye. these surgy national poll ratings, which show Restore clearly E-T into Reform UK's lead. In fact, Reform UK now don't have a lead in some polls against both Labor and the Conservatives, and that does seem to be the trend. So nationally, in the mainstream media and in national politics, there's a huge concern about how well Restore is doing. But unfortunately, what we have seen this week in Restore is some type of civil war going on. between the two wings of the party. You know I reject the terms ethno-nationalists and civic
Starting point is 00:31:08 nationalists, but they are the terms that have been used. And I guess to try and quell this, Rupert revealed yesterday on X, this document, he described as a philosophy of national belonging. And in that document, he too rejects the labels of both ethnic and civic nationalism, which, as you know is something that I have done for some time as well. but do you feel like this document is going to quell the civil war, Connor? Because I think there are a lot of people in the party who are embracing the document on face value. But actually, it doesn't go as far as what their rhetoric does. Well, then, I thought the document was excellent.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I covered it on Lotus Cetus. Yesterday. And also I'm going to do a video on my channel going through it for about an hour as I'm wants to do, boring the pants off people. But nevertheless, I thought it was very robust, aligned pretty much with my position of me. I will definitely watch. Excellent. Well, I appreciate that. There's no higher endorsement. But the idea of restore Britain's paper is to draw the distinction that no other party will draw, which is if you have a British passport, it doesn't necessarily make you British. They say, okay, you can
Starting point is 00:32:20 belong to the national family. You are British via administration. But you're not a Briton. You're not English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish. The acronym wise that Carl Benjamin keeps using. and they point out that demographic security should be the principal concern of all immigration policy going forward. Also another one of Carl Benjamin's coinage, a Rupert Lohet should start paying him by the phrase, I think. But I agree, okay, we own this country, it is our country, we have no other backup country to go to if things go wrong, and so the principal concern of the state should be about the nation after whom it is named, the nation being the people, the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish. And so, look, I thought the philosophy document was very good.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Whether or not people take the time to read it and actually change their opinions or update their political software and messaging is another issue. And I think that's the main problem, Dan, because I think it's not just ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. I think those, I agree, they're imprecise terms. Instead, and I'm not using these categories firmly here as purely age categories, but the other terms that have been banded around for this restores of war has been the boomers and the zoomers. And the reason this applies is because new spokesman like Howard Copts, and Henry Bolton have grown up in a country that was predominantly upwards of 90% white British. And what the Zoomers are asking is basically to grow up in the same country.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And instead, what a lot of these new spokesmen are doing is, I think, deliberately antagonising those young guys by posting photos of Sikhs wearing Scottish Tartan and saying, this is wonderful. Or calling some of the people that were criticising Alla Minyane, who is now resigned, for when she said, oh, we need to take care of Somalian Indian and Pakistani girls too, two, calling these people subhuman, which you just shouldn't do if you're an official spokesman role. You're not a media commentator anymore. You're a spokesman of a political party. And if you want to sound like Richard Tice calling people that lot, well, you're going to lose a lot of members very quickly. And so what I think has happened here is unprofessionalism on the part of some of the new
Starting point is 00:34:15 spokesman. They, despite younger people being accused of being terminally online, these people sit there and read their comments and let it get to them a lot more than young people do who sort of filter it out and don't engage with it as much. You know, I don't even read my notification. on Twitter. So I think they should probably put their phone down and walk away if they can't handle it. And also they need to realize that the demand that's being made is pretty reasonable, which is we just want to have the country that you grew up in. And that's why they think, oh, if I turn around and say, oh, this immigrant is acting just like us. This is the, you know, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But what the Zoomers see that is, is
Starting point is 00:34:48 you like this guy so much that you have no problem giving my country a way to- But, Connor, have that debate. I'm not disagreeing with you on that. I mean, we literally did it. The day that Howard Cox was announced, and I think Howard Cox is a very honourable man, and the day that he was announced as Restore Britain's Transport Spokesperson, he's working hard on a transport policy, by the way, because if you want government, there's a whole load of policy areas that you have to cover off. And we had that debate with you on the show, and it was respectful. And you were both able to put your slightly different points of view,
Starting point is 00:35:21 which is something that has to happen. So it's not that I am shying away from debate and saying that the boomers and the zoomers and the party. I mean, I sit right in the middle, actually. I am the millennial generation, an older millennial. So I'm not a boomer. I'm not a zoomer. You're not a zoomer done. We'll accept you.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Thank you. But I want to be in the middle, Connor. That is the point because my view and the zoomers can come for me if they want. But if Restore Britain wants to win government, which Restore Britain claims it does, then it does have to have a broader base. And where I disagree with some of what you're saying is that a lot of this has become highly personalized, very, very unsupportive,
Starting point is 00:36:09 and has been a campaign of no, we want you out. We just want you out. We're not going to have the debate. We're not going to push our faction and actually say, let's talk this through. This is why we believe what we believe. They just want them out. And with all a Manny Hayne, they succeeded.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And if you want to be a broad-paced political party, which Rupert says he wants to restore Britain to be, that debate has to take place. So as regards to Ola, as you know, I was on with Ola for most of your Mackey-Field election-like coverage. So I get on with Ola interpersonly. But if you are the spokesperson for violence against women and girls, maybe you shouldn't back a baby murderer,
Starting point is 00:36:45 which she did multiple times, including this morning, with Lindsay Clancy. To make her unfit for the role, I'm afraid. So she should have stepped down. I think that was correct. As regards with Howard Cox, look, I probably shouldn't say this because I'll get in trouble, but I wasn't convinced by that debate I had with him down on your show, because during the show, when Howard and I were talking, a text from some of the Restore guys going,
Starting point is 00:37:03 he's claiming he's been talking to us the last few months in preparation for being appointed, and he hadn't. So he'd made that up on your show. So I think it's conduct like that that people are starting to raise an eyebrow, especially if he's still in communication with members of Advance UK and members of the Advanced College have been on other shows this week, calling all sorts of people in Restore Britain racist and then saying in the next sentence, well, round where we are,
Starting point is 00:37:25 we have racist machine gunned, which is quite alarming. And also, don't get me wrong, again, if Howard was not on Talk TV a few months before joining Restore, saying Restore are close to racist, and then saying, well, I joined because I was assured it wasn't racist, and then what Rupert Lone of these to do is put out a statement denouncing racism and ethno-nationalism and neonastism, basically, again, antagonising the base,
Starting point is 00:37:46 with all the same words that Nigel Farrell has just been used, despite them being used against Nigel Farage, I think people are just annoyed at that, because what it does is it puts you in a straitjacket, a rhetorical straitjacket. It says, we're still bothered about terms like racist, and ethno-nationalists, and anti-Semite, and neo-naz.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's just like, sorry, but those have been the words used, the magic words used improperly to rob us of our country forever. We just don't have time for that, frankly, bollocks. And so people are just tired of it. And so I'm not shocked that people are saying, sorry, I don't think Howard's messaging, you know, very sound on transport, I'm sure, but I don't think Howard messaging is actually reflecting
Starting point is 00:38:18 the kinds of things that we want. He doesn't seem to be acting honourably. He seems to be trying to deliberately provoke the base, and it's just not suitable. Look, I think you can have a debate about the individuals. I personally disagree when it comes to how personally disagree when it comes to Ola. I certainly don't agree with her on Lindsay Clancy, but think she had a huge amount to offer with the pink ladies. But I think the overall point that I'm making Connor is that it's not about the individuals in this case. Have those debates.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Have those debates. but it is about a certain group in the party not wanting anyone from the other generation to come in. And that's all I'm saying. I'm just saying there has to be some type of willingness to have the debate, to have the discussion. And I don't think any of the people who you've referred to, you know, Aller, Henry Bolton, Howard Cox, would ever say no to having a debate with you. I mean, as you say, we've literally done it on the show. but some of it has just been about personally trying to drive them out of the party. I've been concerned about that because I do think it is important that Restore has a broad base.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Restore has a lot of female followers. And I just know anecdotally from the outspoken audience who are very, very open to Restore Britain, that I have had a lot of feedback that you won't see on X. You will not see it on X about females in the party feeling concerned after what they've seen this week. Now, I think another race war is coming, and it is this by-election triggered by slippery Stama quitting. And immediately, of course, the Daily Mail's Dan Hodges wants to kick it off. He has accused Reform UK's Muslim Shadow Home Secretary Zee Yusuf of racism. Like literally directly, this is simply racism, he says, after Yusuf,
Starting point is 00:40:14 raised concerns about Labor's candidate looking like being a Somalian-born woman. There she is. On writing the news, he wrote, The frontrunner being foisted on the people of Holborn by Labour to replace the former Prime Minister Keistama and our parliament was born in Somalia. Do you understand what's happening? Hodges replied, this is simply racism, no other word for it. But it wasn't just Yusuf, of course, who has these concerns.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Chris Rose adding this is the frontrunner to be Labor's candidate and the Holbin and St. Patris by-election, Sagar al-Diwali, a Somalian refugee. Something about this just doesn't sit well with me. Now, of course, this could be a huge fight because the tit whisperer Zach Dave Polanski has his eye on this seat too and we will come to that in just a moment. Let me tell you a little bit about Sagal Agriwali. She runs the Camden Council, previously chairman of Stama's constituency Labour Party. She came to the UK as a child refugee from Somalia in the early 1990s. She has said she's been a Labour Party supporter as long as she can remember,
Starting point is 00:41:24 first elected as a counsellor in 2022 and an ally of Sir Kerr. Now what's interesting is that when you come to the Greens, and this is why, like, Polanski, he's going to be booted from that party eventually, right? They don't want him. They don't want the white man to run for the seat. And this has been confirmed in messages seen by the spectator, the spectator's Noah Hoffman. And she reported that Green members agreed that while deputy leader Mothan Ali would be a strong candidate in any by-election, he would be too great loss to the north and better place to fight a seat near his home in Leeds. But what was most striking was the apparent lack of enthusiasm for Polanski. Guess why? He's white. Former Green Council candidate Zach Kahn, who was adored by members for his role aboard the Gaza Global Sumer Flotilla, remarked, this seat has a 50% Bain population. It should be represented by someone who understands those communities' concerns. Mental health and social care workers, Steph, responded, it would be nice to have a global majority rep for one.
Starting point is 00:42:38 and also a true anti-scientist. So global majority rep basically means anyone who isn't white, okay? Good Lord. It is worth remembering, though, when it comes to Polansky, this guy is a fake as well. And it's not often, I credit Labour's Emily Thornberry. Indeed, I think she's one of the worst women in the country. But today, I give her credit, actually,
Starting point is 00:43:00 because guess what, she's dug up? I'm not usually one to defend Zach Polanski, but the idea he doesn't have at least one single connection to Camden is just nonsense. Look, here he is, standing for the council there in 2015, as a Lib Dem during the austerity coalition. And he achieved 96 votes. So Connor Tomlinson, from Tomlinson talks, is this not the most predictable thing ever? Slippery Stama stands down and we are going to get a full-on race war in this by-election. That is all this is going to be. A Somalian candidate for the Labour Party, the Greens don't want White Polansky
Starting point is 00:43:38 and restore and reform will both run in this seat even though they acknowledge Connor that the demographics, the mass immigration makes it impossible for them to win. We're heading for a mess. Camden Council is the same one who in 2019 put out a document after the all-party parliamentary group on Islamophobia
Starting point is 00:43:59 put out their Islamophobia as a kind of racism rooted in racism definition. And they defined Islamophobia as saying that if you say, for example, Islam is spread via the sword or subjugating minority groups, or you say that Muhammad for marrying a six-year-old as a paedophile, then that's Islamophobia. So this is that kind of mad Camden borough that also has the massive pride event that you see Angela Rainer and Kirstama, walking along at Wonder why Kirstama's there. Anyway, so look, this woman, it's unsurprising that they've run someone who ticks all the intersectional boxes,
Starting point is 00:44:34 is predominantly anti-whiteness. And it's also unsurprising that the Greens are descending into infighting, because there is the inherent contradiction that Rupert Lowe amusingly pointed out in the Green Party, which is if you're running basically an anti-white Islamic Communist Party and you have a gay Jewish guy leading it, well, I mean, his position's about as precarious as a leftist in Iran is in 1979. So I'm not shocked that Zach Polanski might not belong for this world, and he might not also win the sea, though I don't think.
Starting point is 00:45:03 his attempt to laterally move between political parties in order to enrich himself, like the shameless theatre kid he is. I don't really think that that's bearing on his conscience all that much. But it is, one final note, it is a shame that we are even having to have the conversation, that the demographics of a seat are going to prohibit certain patriotic parties from winning, because it just shouldn't be that way. Like, we shouldn't have ever had any area of our country so demographically gerrymandered, that elections are effectively just a census now, of where if you know that the area is majority non-white British,
Starting point is 00:45:38 then you're absolutely going to get some anti-white socialist candidate. And it's probably going to be a Somali refugee who has come into our country, and then immediately, when she was running to be a London Assembly member, wrote for Labour List that she knows about prejudice because as a black Muslim woman I've been discriminated against. It's like, right, okay, so you just hate British people. You just hate us. Why are you here? And I responded to Zia Usas post on X, where, I just pointed out, look, nobody ever makes the affirmative case for why we should be ruled by foreigners.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It's actually a biblical curse, funnily enough, so I think they got it right. Instead, they just call your names, and they just hope you shut up about it. And immediately, underneath the post, there's people just going, oh, well, this is just racism, and why don't you... She's worked hard, she's integrated, she's given back to her community. What else could she do? She could do all those things in Somalia. Thank you very much. Because I wouldn't move over to Somalia, you know, end of. But if I did, I wouldn't expect to be a politician in Somalia, though they might thank me for it, because I might fix their country.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And so the same should apply in Britain. A couple of pieces of breaking news, Connor. First, Channel 4 News has just dropped the first look at its undercover investigation into Reform UK. Doesn't look like there's a bombshell, but they have managed to somehow get undercover filming with Nigel Farage and his advisor, Dan Jukes. But as far as I can see, I mean, I haven't watched this yet,
Starting point is 00:46:58 but I'm just looking at what's emerging, and it doesn't look like there is any type of, you know, shocking line. But it's an undercover investigation with an outfit called Verbatim Media. Now, they have 42 followers on X. They claim to do investigative journalism and the public interest. And they claim to have spent a year undercover in Reform UK. This is the first look at what goes out on Channel 4 news at 7 p.m. Let's have a look together.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I came a long way to meet you, sir. But it's been adventure. Wyoming to Clapton. No, well, I'm very, very interested. That's what we're interested in talking about is the next phase of our support for the party. Okay, I run an American family office and I haven't been able to donate directly to this, up to this point. I mean, Connor, there is nothing... I mean, look, we've seen, what, 20 seconds.
Starting point is 00:48:11 There's nothing wrong with meeting potential donors. I mean, political parties are completely reliant on donors. The Labour Party is virtually entirely funded by trade unions. If they wanted to make them look bad, they could have chosen an angle of Dan that didn't mock them to death. Well, the guys clearly lost a lot of weight. He looks pretty good there. So I'm not really sure why this is...
Starting point is 00:48:32 meant to be really spooky and scary. And I think at this point, this is just consolidating the very few people that still watch Channel 4 and think that Nigel Farage is the second coming of Adolf Hitler, despite him constantly calling his political opponents Hitler. And that's about it. They're taking as given that Farage is a demon in the mind of the people that are already watching this and aren't trying to actually sink his credibility further with anyone else who might be on the fence. Because, I mean, Channel 4 is just an outfit for Hope Not Hate at this point.
Starting point is 00:49:00 They ran Hope Not Hate documentary where they used a fake passport for procured through questionable means, let's put it that way, a couple of years ago. And then if we all remember, they used that actor who was putting on a dodgy, I'm a gangster accent when they were originally down in Clacton to try and attack Rob Bates and all the other reform canvases because he said he'd machine gun people coming up the beaches of Dover. Disavow, because of course we're in England. But they had egg on their face for that. So if anyone takes Channel 4 serious at this point, if they think this is going to be some massive bombshell, I don't know. I don't know. You must think the moon is made of cheese and how more gullible you can get. Look, I'm going to watch it so you don't have to. And I will report back on Outspoken tomorrow. I mean, I remember I covered this actually when Outspoken first launched. Richard Tice was our first ever show because you remember Channel 4 News had done that undercover investigation into Reform UK before the last election.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And Tice described it as the biggest stitch up in media history because remember the guy turned. out to be some type of paid actor and there was a lot of dodgy stuff going on there, although they were of course cleared by the off-communists. And the second thing is, Connor, I've just heard from Howard Cox, the transport spokesman of Restore Britain, who's obviously watching, watching our discussion. And he says that he was asked to be transport spokesman of the party three months ago and has produced a message from Rupert Lowe asking him to become transport spokesman. He said he was in touch with Charlie Downs and all that. He didn't say Rupert-Lay.
Starting point is 00:50:34 He said he's been spoken to Charlie for a very long time. That's not true. Okay. Okay. Well, I'm just clarifying that he has said that it was Rupert who approached him. And that that approach took place three months ago in June. Now, the recently victorious Katie Hopkins is challenging the corrupt mainstream media, who have spent years writing only negative stories about her.
Starting point is 00:51:00 to attend the sentencing of the man who was found guilty this week for blackmailing venues into canceling the comedian and activists' gigs. So you'll remember earlier this week, Hopkins announced this incredible news, which is going to benefit all of us and is going to benefit free speech in Britain. On X, resulting in a show of support from figures on the right, but again, total silence from MSM outlets who you would like to think would celebrate what is a massive legal blow, judicial blow for cancel culture, but there's been nothing, nothing from talk TV,
Starting point is 00:51:35 nothing from GB News, nothing from the Daily Telegraph, because Katie Hopkins is for some reason considered a deplorable, even though she used to be one of them. Only a local paper, actually, in the Daily Echo, reported the details of the case, which is that Oliver Hutchins, a 32-year-old, was convicted of four charges of Black. Blackmail, following the trial, jurors were previously told Hutchings targeted venues hosting shows
Starting point is 00:52:03 by right-wing political commentator and media personality Katie Hopkins in 2023, including the Attic and Totten, where she was due to perform in February that year and the Joe Longthorn Theatre in Blackpool the following month. Prosecutor Simon Jones told the court Hutchins contacted venue staff through Facebook, email and telephone calls in an effort to get the events called off. So this was a deliberately provocative and personal campaign. The court heard. Hutchins acted because he believed Katie Hopkins held prejudicial views against the so-called LGBTQ plus community. But the jury made up of five men and seven women returned guilty verdicts on all the charges. Now, it really does have to be pointed out. And I've spoken to Katie about this.
Starting point is 00:52:45 It was really difficult for her going through this process. She had to take the stand. And on the stand, they tried to destroy her. They tried to go through all of her previous controversies and trust me, that is an incredibly difficult thing to do. So by Katie Hopkins taking the stand, going through with this, helping to secure a guilty verdict, she has helped all of us, all of us who simply want the ability to perform for you, the public, or hold events, for you, the public. And there's nothing from the people in the mainstream media and the establishment who should know better. And actually, on the day of the announcement, Hopkins prodded at GB News and their silence over the story, writing on X, Dear G.GB. News,
Starting point is 00:53:26 I imagine you will be all over this, like that rash on Nigel's genitals. Come on, Beverly Turner, tell the editor to go, fuck himself. But indeed, the only major G.B. News presenter that I saw anyway, to post anything on this was Michelle Jubbery. But in the biggest test of her credibility, Jubes didn't say a word about it on her show, which is controlled by GB News. So it's like, okay, in her personal capacity, on X, she mentioned it, but she didn't speak about it on the show. So Katie has now made this video directly challenging GB News, the Daily Mirror
Starting point is 00:54:00 and the Guardian to be there on the day of sentencing. Writing, sentencing is on the 16th of October at Southampton Crown Court. If you have ever written a negative story about me, I expect to see you there. Watch. I just wanted to say
Starting point is 00:54:17 huge thank you to everybody for all your support yesterday when I pushed the news of getting forward. counts of blackmail against one individual who cancelled down over 27 of my venues back in 2023. This is such an important precedent because it means that blackmail intimidation of venues, threatening venues to pull an act is now a criminal offence.
Starting point is 00:54:51 It's a serious criminal offence that carries a prison term. And there's kind of three headline things in this for me. Firstly, what a great thing for the British justice system to work with and for someone like me, an outsider and outcast, someone who didn't even have a voice in their own country five years ago. The Crown Prosecution Service, one individual there has been phenomenal. Hampshire and Ireland of White Police, one individual there, his diligence, kept this case alive for four. four years, one failed court case and a jury messed around because this individual still had the ability to throw everybody under their bus.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And Katie is completely right to say this verdict, this blackmail guilty verdict, means these venues who keep cancelling people on the right need to grow some balls. But very importantly, and something I've always believed, I've always said I will fight for my audiences. what happens when one individual can cancel down an event is that 400 or 1,000 paid ticket holders, they don't get a voice. This is the thing I've always said, is what happened to the voices of the 1,000 people who paid to come, you know, to the gatehouse in Stafford, 400, fully sold out,
Starting point is 00:56:15 and they listen to this one, I won't say what I think of that person. And so I hope that this judgment making blackmail a criminal offence. I hope that it gives theatres and venues cause to have a spine. I've always had a spy, but I wish venues and theatres would have one as well. I hope this stops them cancelling acts and instead logging these individuals as the criminals that they are. And what is different about Katie compared to those who despise her on the left? hopes that this verdict even helps those who disagree with her.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I also very much hope that for other acts that completely disagree with me wouldn't actually support my right to have a stage and the boys that hide behind me, I hope that this also helps you. I hope this is helpful for everybody out there who's trying to perform because we don't have to agree. I will never ask to be agreed with and I will never ask to be agreed with and I will never ask to be liked, but I will continue in my one-woman mission to reclaim the public square. I thank the Crown Prosecution Service. I thank Hampshire and Isle of White Police. I thank my audiences for sticking with me, changing venues, helping me get my voice back in the UK and internationally. And I will continue to try to reclaim spaces.
Starting point is 00:57:53 so that others might find their voice here in the UK. Just a huge thank. And then Katie called out the MSM. Who'd have thought it? Who'd have thought it? Sentencing on 16th of October, Southampton Crown Court, Guardian newspapers, G.B News, the mirror, all the people for so many years, two decades have relished every terrible story about me. Wouldn't it be great if you could write one
Starting point is 00:58:30 that supports me just for once? Conner Tomlinson of Tomlinson talks joins me now. Connor, this verdict is so important in so many ways, but it is equally disgusting to me that the mainstream media and organisations that should know better, like GB News, which have been subjected to these type of bully boy campaigns, blackmail campaigns, one of them was in part responsible for me being let go by the channel, decides to ignore it because Katie Hopkins is at the center of it. It's like this is a judicial ruling which should change the way cancel culture in this country works. And yet they're ignoring it because it's Katie Hopkins. I face a similar thing, Dan, if you remember, one of our shared arch nemesis,
Starting point is 00:59:21 Stella Creasy decided to lobby the channel was stop funding hate to get me banned and I was only back on once in the dead of night thanks to Ben Leo who's a good guy but I think he got a wrap on the knuckles for that won't speak for him I did see in your chat that apparently Michelle Dubrey gave a mention at one point on her show
Starting point is 00:59:38 I think possibly yesterday but as you're correct to say it's hardly been running on the news Kairon especially as a feel good stories are in short Well I'm glad she did that and I'm sorry if I got that wrong they certainly didn't do a full item But if she mentioned it, then good on Michelle Jubri and fair play to her, if that is indeed true.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah, but I agree. It should be a full item, because most people want to hear some good news, and this is some good news. I mean, we don't have amnesia. We all remember the era of, you know, Saganvacad getting attacked on stage at a university events by Antifran snatching their flag. Stefan Molyneux and Lauren Southern trying to speak out in Australia and having the event shut down with bomb threats. Tim Paul has found it almost impossible to hire venues for in-person events at all, but given up doing his show live in America now. So people are still facing this all across the Anglisphere. It's not just in Britain. We're just very fortunate at the Lotus Citas live event.
Starting point is 01:00:31 The local protesters were so fat, wheezing, ugly and pitiful that they couldn't actually stage a coup if they tried. But we shouldn't be subjected to this kind of intimidation. It's our country. We're the ones that don't want to cause some horrible disfigure to it. We have perfectly reasonable concerns. and we do actual things like picking up our litter and paying for things on time and showing up to the venue and not stampeding when we don't get in with a free ticket. So the fact that we treat these venues with respect and the fact that we have paying people coming to our events, especially Casey's, means that we should be able to host these events without any concern. And so, yeah, it's good that the law decided to work as intended for once and hold this guy accountable.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And it's good that we now have a precedent to hold other people that intimidate venues accountable and try and get events. shut down and people blacklisted and cancelled or using the threat of violence. It's good that we have the precedent to lean on that and so you actually don't get to do that. You'd be spending a very long time in prison if you do. Yeah, this was the Michelle Jubry tweet, by the way, this is what she posts on X. Good result. I'm sick and tired of bullies trying to dictate what other people can listen to or watch. If you don't like something or someone simply don't watch them, shame on all the organizations who bow to these bullies one day, they too could find themselves the victim. And I completely agree with her on that. Conner, what was so disturbing about this case is that this leftist
Starting point is 01:01:51 blackmailer. And by the way, these people are bizarre. I mean, there's very little, Connor, we can say at the moment about the man charged with the killing of my friend, my late friend, Anne Whitakam. So I'll be very careful. But, you know, these leftists are very, very threatening people. and they were actually approaching Connor, my belief is they were approaching people who worked at the venues by email through Facebook accounts. So it was, that's where it got into the blackmail territory, you see, because these people were being afraid. And it's something that I've noticed that they do as well. It's like even if they fundamentally, like say a venue manager fundamentally believes, oh, we should be able to host Katie Hopkins, even though I disagree with her. They worry about what it's going to mean, the knock-on effects for their business, the protests being held outside the venue, which might mean their neighbours are unhappy.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And their neighbours could then complain about the venue in the future. It's actually very chilling the tactics they use. But these tactics went one step further because as soon as you start personally threatening the staff at venues, you're in criminal territory. So it's not a free speech issue. Because of course I do believe we have free speech and we have a right for people to protest and all of that. type of thing, but this is why it went further in these cases. Yeah, and we shouldn't be shocked that it will go further because leftists always dress up these violent intimidation tactics as direct action and all sorts of other euphemisms.
Starting point is 01:03:25 It was a diversity of tactics. And we shouldn't be surprised they feel emboldened to do this. I mean, they've got a sort of cult of death and celebration going on at the moment, not just with the Lizzie Clancy case, but of course with the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO by Luigi Mangione, the people turning up to both Lindsay Clancy and Luigi Mangione's trials. You've got the assassination of Charlie Kirk, of course, with the lawyer of Tyler Robinson saying that Mr. Kirk did have some hateful views, and that's the reason that Tyler Robinson said that he said to Lance Twiggs, his furry boyfriend, that he shot him because he was hateful, as if saying, oh, Charlie Kirk said things he didn't like, therefore he deserves to be
Starting point is 01:04:01 killed. Same thing with Hope Not Hate, pulling their page on Anne Whitakum shortly after she was murdered by, we have to say allegedly, but, I mean, just look at the guy, a terminally online Reddit communist, it seems to be. And so these people are resentful. They have nothing going for them in their personal lives. They are wretched. They lack virtue. And they think that their ideology makes them morally pure. They don't have to actually cultivate good morals in their personal lives. And so if someone gets in the way of the ideology, then they are evil. And so anything they do to that person is good. And so we shouldn't be shot at the left results of violence. And so all we can do is wrestle back control of our legal
Starting point is 01:04:37 system and use it to crack down on them and have a peaceful, prosperous high-trust society again, whether they like it or not. Connor, I really did want to ask you about Lindsay Clancy, by the way. I've obviously been following this trial very, very closely. She is the mother who strangled her three young children to death using exercise ropes. There she is with the father of the baby, the husband. And I just want to set it up, Connor, before I bring you in. I played this on yesterday's show.
Starting point is 01:05:05 but it's just one clip. I mean, I could literally pick hundreds. You know, there are hundreds of these videos of liberal women who are not only supporting Lindsay Clancy Conner, but seem to be going one step further and almost trying to excuse that behavior in their own lives. I mean, you just have to watch this, but look at this and I'll get your view on it immediately after.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Do you stand with her yes or no? I don't think she did it. We feel she's very sleep deprived. Her job as a labor and delivery nurse working night shifts and three children is a lot. A lot. Do you have children? Yes. Would you ever hurt them?
Starting point is 01:05:46 Yes and no. As a mom or as a dad, I think that you are not perfect. So what are the consequences she should face for this? Obviously she's already in a wheelchair. He should go to jail for negligence. He needs to take care of his kids and that was his responsibility. Is this any of your girlfriends? This is your girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:06:06 I think you have to do some reflection on that. I just have seen a little bit on TikTok of the case. I'm watching it on TikTok or like the live streams. Where are you getting your news that the defense might not be getting theirs? I don't, but what did you say? TikTok. Connor, I mean, it just seems like such a cut and dry case. But of course, in the culture war, that is not where it's ended up.
Starting point is 01:06:30 The thing is, it's not just the culture war. So, of course, look, you know, turn off TikTok. It seems to be a slot prey that shoots itself directly into young women's brains, and I despise it. But Bev Turner was on G.B. News the other day saying that she thinks that Lindsay Clancy is a victim. All the mini-hame was responding to me and Carl this morning, saying, well, actually, Lindsay Clancy only told her husband about that. She didn't. She had a nanny, a mother around. She kept a diary. She was posting on Facebook forums the entire time. She also didn't need to go back to work as a nurse. She said that she thought it would help her anxiety, despite her son, who is still an infant. not breastfeeding, and her husband earning $400,000 and working sometimes remotely,
Starting point is 01:07:09 so they had enough money and they had him around. So she wasn't unsupported, she didn't need to go back to work and stress herself out, so all these things, right? So it's not just crazy liberal women. It is, largely, it's not just women on TikTok. It's a lot of women who are thinking, well, I identify with Lindsay Clancy because I've been a mum and I've been stressed out. And if I were in that situation and I did something terrible beyond my control, because they presume that she did us actually have postpartum psychosis, they presume, They take at her word that she heard a voice to tell her to kill her kids, even though she didn't hear the voice before or after the incident, which is literally impossible if you have paranoid psychosis. But there you go. They think, okay, if I was in that situation, my body betrayed me, would I want everyone to feel sympathy for me? Yes. Okay, so should I feel sympathy for her? Yes. Should we all feel sympathy for her and therefore making each other feel better because we feel bad for her? Yes, and so it's become this sort of like collective moment of psychosis, this sort of social contagion, a preference cascade, where women feel the need. to signal their sympathy to Lindsay Clancy because they think, I feel bad for her, and this could be me.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And I'm sorry, no explanation for why she did what she did is an excuse. What she did was evil. She has not been sufficiently punished just because she failed to kill herself by lowering herself out of a second-story window and barely slashing her wrists in her throat so that it didn't require any surgery and not taking a lethal dose of the medication that she said she was on because it wasn't in her system at sufficient levels to even work. Instead, and Massachusetts doesn't carry the death penalty, but if it did, it would be justified. And so the best we can hope for is that she goes to prison for a very, very long time. And even though Patrick Clancy says he's forgiven her, I mean, that's not very Christian of him.
Starting point is 01:08:42 But I don't think that we should forgive and forget. And I think the only person that can forgive her is God, which she says she believes in. But, I mean, she isn't exactly acting very Christian when she's killed three of her children and tries to get out of any consequences for it. Wow. The political fallout in Prince Harry and Megan Markel's moves, back to the UK has finally just erupted on both sides of the Atlantic. So we have been waiting for this moment. We've been waiting for the Donald Trump moment and his verdict was utterly brutal. But just as significant to me is Reform UK, which is the party, the right-wing party in Britain,
Starting point is 01:09:22 leading in the polls and its chairman, Lee Anderson, coming out against the couple receiving paid-for taxpayer-funded security, something that the political. establishment in this country is desperately trying to prove, while doing so by suggesting, and trust me, Harry is going to hit the roof, that he has more at risk from Megan Markle than any terrorist. Remember when you watch this, this is the party leading in the polls to become the next British government. Oh, and by the way, I agree with Lee Anderson here 110% do you? What was Reform's position on giving them taxpayer security? I don't know. We've not even spoke about it, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Is he at risk? Yes, he is at risk. Probably more risk from her than he is from anybody else. I think she's been a bad influence on him, personally. That's not the party line. That's my line. I'm suspicious. I'm suspicious of why I've written these books, made these Netflix series, slagging off the Royal Family. and then when I come back, I'm really suspicious, so the jury's out for me on that one.
Starting point is 01:10:38 You have every right to be suspicious we all are. Those comments followed this bombshell from Donald Trump when asked at the White House. On the subject of foreign visitors to the United States, what's your reaction to the recent news that Prince Harry and Megan have left the United States have gone back to prison. I'm happy about it. No, I was not a fan. I thought, look, I had a very good relationship with the Queen.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Really good. I got to know very well. A really good relationship with King Charles. I know him as Prince Charles and King Charles. I've known him for a long time. He's great, great guy. And I thought they treated the royal family with great disrespect. I didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I didn't like the way she acted. I thought she was terribly disrespectful. to the Queen, to King Charles. And I don't know, maybe I'm different. I wouldn't have taken them back, right? If I were the royal family, I would not have taken them back. Mr. President, thank you. So that is a very significant intervention from Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:11:53 It would not have been welcomed by King Charles, who was on a bit of a show around with Emmanuel Macron. and Brigitte Macron, French president and First Lady, looking at the value tapestry, but his speech was completely overshadowed by Trump's words. However, Trump wasn't finished yet. He went even further in a brand new interview with Bev Turner on Gibi News. Everybody loved him in America.
Starting point is 01:12:27 He spoke in front of Congress. Everybody loved him. He's a fantastic guy. And he's been a friend of mine for a long time. I knew him as Prince Charles. I knew him as King Charles. And he's amazing. And he's fighting through a very tough situation with his health.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And very few people would have that bravery to do what he's done. But I think that what she has done and him, you know, he wrote a book that was very terrible to William. It was terrible the things he said. I would, I mean, it's just me. I'm sure I'm wrong on this, but I would not have taken him back. I wouldn't, I would have never spoken to him again. Connor Domlinson is the host of Tomlinson talks on YouTube and substacked. Connor, a huge amount to unpick here.
Starting point is 01:13:14 First, can we start with the personal on this? Do you agree with Donald Trump that given the level of the betrayal from Prince Harry and Megan Markle, which went to the extent of suggesting that the entire family was racist, Do you agree with Trump that it is fair enough to just say, well, we're never talking to them again? Because what I'm noticing a lot of Connor in the mainstream media and political establishment is this constant attempt to try and browbeat Prince William into forgiveness of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Oh, you have to, you have to forgive. Come on, you have to move on.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But Trump just says, no, what they did was so bad, I would never have spoken to them again. Is that fair enough? or should you always put blood first and reconcile? So I actually agree with Trump, and I think I'm shocked that Trump is so indifferent about Harry and Meghan leaving the US because I think that probably the most two most unpopular people in the US compared to him at the moment.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I think, you know, he's in sort of third position, so he probably wants them to stay. Nevertheless, if you are in a voluntary relationship, then you are meant to be loving, you're meant to show reciprocity, you're meant to maintain that relationship, right? So that means that your standards are even higher if your relationship is involuntary, if they're a sibling, possibly, but if you're a parent and a child, because obviously, you know, children never get to choose who their parents are.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And if you take that for granted, and you bring someone into that family dynamic, via a voluntary relationship, like a wife who decides to destroy your family, and then that family go, well, hang on a minute, we've done nothing. but be kind to her, we helped you celebrate your wedding, you were beloved by all of our, all of our friends and family, but you throw it back on our face. We don't really want to interact with this person again. And if you side with that woman who's trying to pry you away from your family and is making you a public spectacle and is basically making you an embarrassment, then I'm not sure they don't want to speak to him again. I wouldn't, and I wouldn't
Starting point is 01:15:19 as well until he had broken up with her, apologized, to come back and shown due contrition to show that he hadn't, he had learned from his mistake and wasn't going to make the same family-wrecking mistake again. So, yeah, if that were to happen to my family, and, you know, I know anywhere near the fame of the Royals, thank God, never will be, then, yeah, I wouldn't want to speak to them again, so I don't blame the Royals for not wanted to do that to try and protect what little legitimacy there is left in the Windsor brand either. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. And I think what is particularly frustrating for Prince William Connor, as you speak about the damage to the Royal brand. And I think he understands that.
Starting point is 01:15:54 that. And he understands a lot of it has come from the weakness of his father, as well as the lies of his brother and sister-in-law. And what he is trying to do is enact a strategy of exile. And remember, that was something very effectively pursued by the late Queen Elizabeth 2nd and the late Queen Mother when it came to the Duke of Windsor who had abdicated but was an Nazi sympathiser and Wallace Simpson, who was like the Megan Markle of her day. And they they did exile them and that exile sort of took away their power. And Charles has not done that. He tried to bring Andrew Mountbatten Windsor back into the fold. That failed. He tried to bring Sarah Ferguson back into the fold. That failed, given their connections to Epstein. Now he's
Starting point is 01:16:39 trying to do the same thing with Prince Harry and Megan Markle. It is very bizarre. Connor, I wanted to ask you, though, about the security row. I have to be honest with you, I thought it was a brilliant line from Lee Anderson. The biggest threat to you isn't the terrorist, mate. It's your wife. And I think that's probably true. But on the politics of this, Connor, there is this establishment ploy to try and get the British taxpayer to pay for their security. 98% of the British public are against this. Wouldn't it be politically suicidal for Shibana MacMood, the Home Secretary, to remember overrule a decision, Connor, that has been made in court? You know, Prince Harry took his security fight to court and he lost. And yet he now wants Mahmood to overturn the decision.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Almost putting her personally at risk, Connor, like, if anything happens to me, it's your fault, MacMood. And we know that's not how security works. We're all at risk. You know, Anne Wittickham didn't have protection. Actually, Princess Anne and Prince Edward don't have protection when they go to the supermarket. As I was looking at those, folks, photos there down on the slideshow. I think Lee Anderson's right. Mega Marvel clearly is bad for his health because Harry is starting to look like James O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:17:56 It's like he's melting before our very eyes. Turning into like Gollum from the Lord of the Rings. He's angry. It's anger. It's leftist anger, isn't it? It's happened to I, Brian, and now it's happening to Harry. Yeah, it's the old role doll thing of, you can start out as handsome as you like,
Starting point is 01:18:11 but if you have ugly thoughts throughout your life, it begins to show on your face. Whereas if you aren't the most blessed-looking, You can be a wonderful person and it will still shine through. So true. My dad had a phrase when I was an unmarried man, which was, a bad woman can draw you further,
Starting point is 01:18:31 then gunpowder can blow you. And if I would have listened to him, I would have saved myself a lot of trouble. And I think if my dad would have told that to Harry, he would still be, you know, still have all those royal titles. As far as the actual protection thing, look, I don't think it's going to come up on the doorstep
Starting point is 01:18:45 and I don't think it's going to be an electoral issue, but it's not that Labor government can afford to cause themselves any more headaches, especially as an election looms. They shouldn't have any more bad press. So you're right, I would be shocked if they decided to go against the court ruling, shocked if they decided to go against the predominance of public polling. And I don't think Reform UK will be sneaking it into their first 100 days manifesto at their ongoing conference anytime soon.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Do you think it is feasible for the political establishment and the royal family to just ignore Prince Harry and Megan Markle? like you're back, do your own thing, but we're not giving you security, we're not bringing you back into the fold. Is that feasible? I think pretty much everyone's sick to the back teeth of them, Dan. I mean, I know I certainly am. I'm pretty sure Trump is as well. And so, yeah, the press might try and put them on the front page a few times, but it's going to be the boy who cried Wolf. Eventually, they're going to realize that you're just making a big humdrum about nothing and nobody's going to come to see what
Starting point is 01:19:45 you're crying about. So I think eventually people will just get sick and tired of the song and dance and they can just afford to ignore it. In that same interview, by the way, with Bev Turner, Donald Trump made it clear that we don't necessarily have American backing when it comes to the Falkland Islands. We're obviously expecting this big new address from Millay in the coming hours, potentially. I just want to show you what Trump had to say about this. He did sort of play dumb too, so I'm not sure how passionately he feels
Starting point is 01:20:19 it. I think what's clear, Connor, is that he's no fan of the United Kingdom government at the moment. And let's be honest, neither are we. Watch this. We're worried at the moment in the UK about the Falklands. And your friend Javier Miele has said that he's going to make a statement, I think,
Starting point is 01:20:36 tomorrow night about the Falkland Islands. The US has always been neutral on this issue. But But would you come to the aid of the UK if... Are you saying they want to claim the fall cards? Yeah. Well, look, I was there when they had the first war. That was a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:20:54 And I watched it so carefully. And you comported yourselves very well. You took it back pretty strongly. But it's a long way away. That's a big trip. It's a long way. So your country's not doing well. Don't forget, you've got a big person.
Starting point is 01:21:12 energy of your oil from the Strait of Hormuz. And you weren't there to help me. Your country was not there to help me. Connor, what do you make of what's going on? First with Trump, secondly with the Falklands. Well, they're combined. So the reason Trump is being diplomatic initially and then, I don't want to use the term spiteful,
Starting point is 01:21:37 but he is clearly jaded about our unwillingness to involve ourselves in the Iran war is because the Israelis are siding with the Argentinians. And of course, the Israelis are the reason why Trump involved himself in the Iran war. And there's a lot of set dressing about that, you know, Iran having a nuclear weapon, whatever. But when Marco Rubio, who is a secretary of state, comes out and said, well, you know, if we didn't strike, then the Israelis would have struck and we would have started striking anyway. It's like, okay, so Israel is the reason you're in the war. Fine, whatever. The Israelis have been very vocal about their opposition to Britain, their, again, their spitefulness, about the fact that the Kirstama committed alongside Albinisi and,
Starting point is 01:22:12 Mark Carney to a Palestinian state as the solution to the conflict in Gaza now in Lebanon. And so in a tip-for-attack conflict, you've seen Yahir Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu's son, and other cabinet ministers suggest that actually, yeah, that the Falklands Islands belong to Javier Mili, who himself is a close ally of Israel, and he said he's aspirational Jewish, which is a weird thing to say, but hey, whatever, that's his personal life. Yaya Netanyahu also tweeted out in 2019 that Suta and other Spanish territories should belong to North Africa if Spain doesn't side with Israel regarding its expansion into settlements and its dominion over Palestine and Gaza. So it seems that these overseas territories that Spain and now Britain with the Falklands want to retain ownership of, and the citizens of those areas still consider themselves British and the Falklands and Spanish and Souter.
Starting point is 01:23:07 it seems they're being used as bargaining chips for broader geopolitical skirmishes and territorial ambitions of the Israelis and the Americans. And so I wouldn't be shocked if Argentina decided they wanted to make moves on it with the tacit backing of the Americans and the Israelis. And being frank, considering our last defense secretary, John Healy, who's now our chance of the brilliant, couldn't even name the number of active military vessels, active naval vessels that we had. I wouldn't be shocked if we don't have the capacity to defend it this time around. And so this is the anxiety over the Falcon's War, the second Falcons War, which is, does Britain have the ability to defend a territory, it's claiming it's theirs, and therefore is it actually ours, I mean, if we can't defend it. I mean, again, the Falcons Islands is British, according to the people that live there, it should be British, we should be making use of all the oil reserves on it. We could be plenty rich, just like the Americans. But if we can't defend it, because our treacherous governments have destroyed our military, and then the Americans resent us for not following Israel into the war, and Israel backs the Argentinians.
Starting point is 01:24:06 claim over it, it's looking pretty dicey. Connor, our mutual friend Charlie Sanson, who's launching his own independent show next week, I believe, has just said Prince Harry does deserve protection. Liz Truss was Prime Minister 49 days and gets it for life. Prince Harry will be royal forever and gets nothing. How do you respond to that? Prince Harry's a knob. I don't like him very much, so I wouldn't give it to him. Fair enough. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Also, one other comment, Connor, I wanted to put to you, this is in regards to the whole clash within Restore Britain and also the wider clash on the right between Reform UK. Francis Lancaster 805 says a party which had Steve Laws is going to be described as racist plus the Restore supporters who are racist to Ben Habeed. Connor doesn't understand this. Anyone can be a member of a party? Steve wasn't a spokesman and official. He was just being used as a wedge by specifically the Telegraph, who wanted to drive reform into a pack with the Tories to reward the Shepherds of the Boris Wave.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And so if you're falling for that up, you're basically making it much harder for you to get anything done politically because you're putting one hand on the stick that they're using to beat you with. I think Rupert had the best line on this, which is we're not going to audit our membership. I'm not going to be made to answer for anything anyone has said on the internet. If you want to know Restore Britain's policy,
Starting point is 01:25:32 look at its policy documents. If you can't be bothered to read, then I can't help you. Yeah, 100%. And my belief is that also Restore Britain members have been told this week very loudly that we absolutely will not patrol you. We're not booting people out for their views, but we just ask you to be respectful towards people who are in elected positions. Or, you know, senior members of the party, which I think is a respectful thing.
Starting point is 01:26:00 I don't think there's any reason not to be reminded of that. And they should be the same towards the base if they want them to vote. vote for them. Just so. Yes, absolutely. I think it goes both ways. We've got a super chat in here from MS. Coral Jade. This is very interesting, Connor. As a Restore member, I wouldn't even do a Reform, hold my nose vote. The way Reform talks about us is disgusting, and I'm sick of it.
Starting point is 01:26:27 And so even, Connor, after all of this, there are still so many people within Restore, and I completely understand it, who say the reform rhetoric towards them is just, not going to make it even conscionable to potentially vote for reform. There's other comments coming in to. MD34338 says Farage got Brexit done as he saw this shit coming. He is a true Brit. But which Hazel 21 says, Tice always puts his foot in the mud bucket and leaves a mess behind.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Inver Dragon 68 says low and restore shouldn't join with Farage and reform. Rangerover 63 says Howard Cox is another Nick Buckley. nice guy but does not bring in the votes. B33 real C4B says restore voters please get behind reform. It's the only way. We want the same, but only one has a chance. Think of Britain. But Stuart 207 disagrees and says reform is an establishment vote, your choice. I think the conclusion of that is restores divided, but so too is the right. Okay, let's get on to revealing today's worst Britain in the world, the union jackass nominees,
Starting point is 01:27:37 Piers Morgan, nominated by Connor for Sainzia Yutufus racist because he said someone born in Somalia shouldn't be able to be a politician in Britain. I mean, it's all kicking off over that right now online. Shivani Raja, the Tory MP for asking the Labour government to stop the NHS charging immigrants so more foreigners with British passports can bring their family to live in Britain. And I went for for Nina Mishkoff for saying on GBM News
Starting point is 01:28:01 the 70,000 migrants arrive in Sueta over a few days is an invasion. However, migrants arriving illegally in the UK is not an invasion. In third position, Chavani Raja with 11% of the vote. The runner-up is Pearce Morgan with 38% of the vote. Connor, I'm so sorry, but come on, it's got to be Nina Mishkoff. She's so annoying. Peir's as annoying as Nina Mishkoff, who's won today with 51% to the vote. But the good news is, Connor, you can nominate for today's Greatest Britain,
Starting point is 01:28:29 which you'll be delighted to know has this Megan Markle twist, right? Yeah, I was notified by one of your producers, Dan, of this excellent interaction that Vinnie Jones had, because he's in the Guy Ritchie series, and Megan Markle is going to be in a forthcoming season of, and he was asked, what do you think about Megan Markle being in the series? And he just responded, who? And that sums up basically my feelings about her as well.
Starting point is 01:28:54 So I'm going to forgive him for his terrible performance as the Juggernaut and X-Men 3 for that witty remark. Oh my God, it was so good. Here's just, I've covered it in full on the Royal Uncatsylafter show, but here's just a little funny meme that went viral, Connor. How do you think the digital sister, if she was to join, would fit into the gang? Who? Megan Marker, in this definition.
Starting point is 01:29:23 I have no idea. Oh, Connor, I did enjoy that. I did enjoy that. But sorry to put you through it, Connor. Sorry to put you through the royal conversation. But, you know, it's political hot potato at the moment with Reform UK and Trump both speaking out. But Connor Tomlinson of Tomlinson talks on YouTube and Substack, thank you so much for being here on Outspoken today.
Starting point is 01:29:52 And of course, we do have much more royal talk right now with Lady Colin Campbell. And she is going to love all of this stuff about Megan and the Gentleman. So do stand by. You don't want to miss Lady C. You can come and find us over on Substack right now, www. www. outspoken.com. But I will be back with you live tomorrow. 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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