Dan Wootton Outspoken - BUDGET LEAK FARCE AFTER RACHEL THIEVES SCREWS US ALL OVER TAX AS DEEP STATE ARREST FARMERS

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

BREAKING TODAY: The Disunited Kingdom’s economy, the hopes and dreams of millions of working Britons, and the political future of Slippery Starmer, Rachel Thieves and, let’s be honest, the entire ...Labour movement. Today’s farcical budget – leaked in full as the incompetence of our once great country is exposed to the world yet again – is the next stage in a socialist hellscape leading Britain into the third world to appease hard leftist Labour MPs terrified of the even harder left Islamist movement. And as she broke her promises and cemented Britain’s status as a failed welfare state, all we got were more cheap political digs from our Chancellor, whose constant moans about mansplaining have made her nothing more than a punchline. And outside the corrupted House of Commons, the British deep state decided to turn on desperate farmers, with disgraceful arrests. Dan reveals how the Starmer/Reeves budget has screwed us all in his Digest. Then analysis you simply will not get from the MSM from: Mike Graham – host of the Mike Graham Show on Substack and YouTube, Father Calvin Robinson – co-host of Reclaim the Media’s Fox and Father, and Douglas McWilliams, top economist and commissioner at the Growth Commission. PLUS: Calamity Lammy sparks outrage by getting into power and reversing his opposition to scrapping jury trials, in the latest attack on Britain’s teetering democracy. AND: Mike Graham reacts to the latest hard left bid to cancel him following his axing from Talk TV and move into the independent media. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle admits she DID take a dress from a photoshoot, but her excuse leaves more questions than answers. We’ll reveal the shocking full story with royal YouTube sensation P-Dina. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no sense. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 369. And breaking today, the disunited kingdom's economy, the hopes and dreams of millions of working Britons, and the political future of slippery starma, Rachel Thieves, and let's be honest, the entire Labour movement. Today's farcical budget leaked in full
Starting point is 00:00:26 As the incompetence of our once great country is exposed to the world yet again, is the next stage in a socialist hellscape, leading Britain into the third world just to appease hard leftist Labour MPs terrified of the even harder left Islamist and Green movement. And as she broke her promises and cemented Britain's status as a failed welfare state, all we got were more cheap political government. Diggs. I know that the leader of the Green Party is a keen hypnotherapist. The only things getting bigger under his approach would be the deficit and the rate of inflation. We are ramping up sanctions on Russia. I don't actually mean the Honourable Member for Clacton. The Tories under Liz Trust crashed the economy and sent mortgage rates spiraling.
Starting point is 00:01:21 They're being so loud, Madam Deputy Speaker, and yet I can't even hear them now. But she is the real joke. Our Chancellor, with her constant moans about mansplaining, is nothing more than a punchline. He had any decency, she would resign. Welfare spending, up, universal credit claimants, up, unemployment, up, investment, down, business confidence, down. The credibility of the Chancellor, and not just down, through the floor. Her position is untenable, and she knows it.
Starting point is 00:01:57 She's talking to the Chancellor, is he mansplaining to you, by the way? Is he mansplaining? Do you want some help? Would you like some help? And can you believe, as that was going on, outside the corrupted House of Commons, the British Deep State decided to turn on desperate farmers with disgraceful arrests. Just by Trafalgar Square, it's absolutely outrageous. This is the place of the public, the public and farmers, being arrested.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Our brave farmers who feed us, who feed all you guys in uniform and the whole country. We've had two years of mad protests, and now we have this farmer being arrested by Trafalgar Square, a public space on Section 14 notice, on a basis that for weeks this has been planned. There's a budget today. Rachel Reeves is in there about to attack family farms and our whole backbu. And these guys are arresting a farmer who's tractors here. This is absolutely outrageous. In my digest next, how the Stama Reeves budget has screwed us all.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Then analysis you simply will know. From Mike Graham, host of the Mike Graham show on Substack and YouTube. Father Calvin Robinson, co-host of Reclaim the Media's Fox and Father. And Douglas McWilliams, top economist commissioner of the Growth Commission. Also coming up on the show today, Calamity Lammy sparks outrage by getting into power and reversing his opposition to scrapping jury trials and the latest attack on Britain's teetering democracy. And Mike Graham reacts to the latest hard-left bid to cancel him following his axing from talk TV and move into the independent media. Then in the uncanceled after show, which is over on substack, Megan Markle admits she did take a dress, Romay photo shoot, but her excuse leaves more questions than answers. So we're going to reveal this full shocking story with the Royal YouTube Sensation P. Diner.
Starting point is 00:03:58 We're also, of course, at the end of the show, going to reveal a new Greatest Britain and Union Jackass. Here are your nominees for the worst Britain in the world today. You can go and vote right now in the YouTube live chat. Rachel Reeves, nominated by Real Mick Cass, who today is monumentally screwing over Britain. Where's Streeting, nominated by Darren Donaldson, for allowing puberty-blocking experiments on children. as young as eight. He can dress it up as a scientific run reputably by King's College in London and approved by the cast report, but it is still using puberty blockers on kids. And slippery stammer, nominated by Mad Dog Photo for showing support for the Snowflake Chancellor Rachel
Starting point is 00:04:42 Tea Leaf Thieves. Okay, that's going to be tough, isn't it? How do you choose between those three? Let me know your comments on the budget throughout the show. I will read out the best at the end today. But now, let's go. Rest and peace, the United Kingdom economy. Good luck to every hardworking patriot who struggle to simply live day by day has just been made even more impossible.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Even more impossible because of a socialist Prime Minister Slippery Stama, competent Chancellor and Rachel from accounts and communist-inspired Labour Party prepared to damn workers to appease the Islamist hard left and benefits Britain. Last year, we were promised that the record 40 billion pound tax rises were over. That was a one-and-done deal. So what did we get today? Tax hikes of 26 billion pounds.
Starting point is 00:05:46 8 billion on freezing income and national insurance thresholds. $4.7 billion in a salary sacrifice raid. 2.3 billion in tax admin crackdowns. 2.2 billion on dividend, property and savings tax rises. 1.5 billion in extra corporation tax. 1.4 billion on electric vehicles pay per mile schemes. 1.1 billion in a gambling tax raid. 900 million on capital gains changes on trust. 400 million in council tax hikes. and just another 4.4 billion here and there in a mix of measures. Translation. We now have a record tax burden of 38% of GDP,
Starting point is 00:06:31 the highest in the history of our once glorious country, with the useless OBR warning of massive fiscal risks with the prospect of wait for it, even more tax rises. Oh, and they also say household disposable income will grow at just 0.25% a year for most of, of the decade, as slower wage growth and higher taxes drags incomes down. And for what? For what? Can any of us honestly say, the country is in a better place? The NHS is broken. The invasion continues at pace. The property market is crashing. The justice
Starting point is 00:07:15 system is screwed with criminals being released earlier, now jury trials set to be scrapped. What are we paying for? Well, I will tell you, decades of mass immigration. That is the reality that you will not hear today in the mainstream media. We now also have a state so incompetent that the entire budget was leaked as Rachel Thieves was sitting in Parliament yet to deliver a word. This was the moment she found out and it made the UK really a laughing stock all over the world yet again.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Speaker, it is my understanding that the Office of Budget Responsibilities Economic and Financial Outlook was released on their website before this statement. This is deeply disappointing and a serious error on their part. The Office for Budget Responsibility, responsibility have already made a statement taking full responsibility for their breach. She had a spluttering start, quite literally, and it was a sign of terrible things to come. And within three months, we will set out our plan for delivering his recommendations.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Madam Deputy Speaker, we are rebuilding our economy. Over the last 16 months, we have overhauled our planning system to get Britain building, forged new trade deals with the United States, India and the European Union, reformed our visa system to bring the brightest and the best to Britain. We changed our fiscal rules that we inherited from the Conservatives and raised public investment to its highest level in four decades. AIDS. And in last year's budget, I raised taxes on business and the wealthiest to close the 22 billion pound in the public finances left by the party's opposites.
Starting point is 00:09:30 You're a liar, Rachel Reeves. A complete liar and a fraud. Advance UK leader Ben Habib responded, so taxes on everyone who works and pensioners are going up. anyone who has made money saved it and bought a valuable house will be penalised for their efforts and success pensioners who live in such homes will also have to pay tax with their depleted income people who cannot afford children will be incentivised to have more of them that's because of the scrapping of the two-child benefit cap top of the list will be foreigners on benefits why not give workers a tax break for having children national debt and taxes forecast to go up growth and productivity forecast a flat line at best a recession is around the corner
Starting point is 00:10:13 This is a budget for those on benefits, punishing people who work, earn and save. Mugabe economics in the UK. But in the oft-repeated strategy, Reeves decided to blame Liz Truss. We've all seen the alternative. Three years ago, in their clamour to cut taxes for the richest, the Tories under Liz Truss crashed the economy and sent mortgage rates spiraling and brought pensions to the brink. They've been so loud, Madam Deputy Speaker,
Starting point is 00:10:55 and yet I can't even hear them now. Well, the former Prime Minister wasn't having any of that bullshit. Today's budget is not a smorgasbord. It's a dog's dinner. It will make the housing market even worse. it will get rid of any incentive to save for a pension, punish the hardworking and reward the idle. None of Britain's problems will be fixed,
Starting point is 00:11:20 and growth will be even worse than the OBR's downgraded forecast. And next year she'll be back for more, if she's still there, unless there's a crisis in the meantime. Here's a better idea. Cut taxes, restrain welfare, get fracking and rein in the Bank of England. In other words, implement the growth budget. Reeves then turned to the political challenges who quite rightly terrify labour. Firstly, Reform UK.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And then there is reform who promise more than £100 billion of cuts with no details of where those cuts have come from or who will pay for them. A recipe for devastating damage to our public services. People voted for Labour because they wanted roads that aren't full of potholes. They want police on our streets and they want an NHS that is there when they need it. And we're delivering that. We are ramping up sanctions on Russia and we are freezing known Russian assets. But let me be clear.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm both for Clacton. Under the Conservative. What the hell are you laughing at, you evil woman? Nigel Farage responded with a dire warning about what's to come in the UK. But worst of all, all of these signals from a government that literally doesn't understand business because none of them have ever been in business
Starting point is 00:13:05 and frankly, there are a few. in the opposition who ticked that box either. Now my prediction is the exodus will continue, the exodus will accelerate, and the tragedy of it is the sheer number of 30-somethings who want to work hard, who want to do well, who are ambitious, and for them they're seeing the Gulf, they're even seeing, ironically, other European countries. Milan in Italy being perhaps a very good example where young, hardworking entrepreneurs are going. That's one very, very big prediction that I've got from this budget.
Starting point is 00:13:41 The party's strategy boss, Zia Yusuf also was spitting some facts, writing, wow, Labor is going to spend £1.8 billion on digital ID, and it is coming out of the home office budget, which is still being cut in real terms. Labor is literally diverting money away from sorting out the border crisis to taking away British people's legacy. On to Rachel's next target, the nutty green party leader, the tit whisperer himself, Zach Polansky, who in another shocking sign of our decline, our national decline, is about to overtake Labor in the polls, despite being a complete joke,
Starting point is 00:14:21 as he proved outside of Westminster watch. Hey! Hey, Rachel, who I want to know. If you're tax the rich, are you gonna tax the rich? Hey, hey, Rachel, who, ah, I want to know if you're tax the rich, are you going to tax the rich. Rachel keeps talking about tough choices, but these are always tough choices for working class people, for disabled people, for migrants. When are we going to see tough choices for multimillionaires?
Starting point is 00:15:04 billionaires. I know that the leader of the Green Party is a keen hypnithotherapist. And he believes that he can achieve remarkable things using only the power of his mind. Unfortunately, the only things getting bigger under his approach would be the deficit and the rate of inflation. No, that's under you. That's under you, Reeves. The reality is that as James O'Brien proved on LBC,
Starting point is 00:15:39 Labor's elite class actually wants to drive the people who have been driving our economy out of the country. They want to damn us to decline forever in order to shore up their hard-left voting base. I was reading about a billionaire yesterday, who apparently was worth 33 billion pounds at the last time of asking, and he's going to move to Dubai because he's worried about tax in this country.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And I thought, mate, what is the point of being alive if you've got 33 billion pounds in the bank and you're going to uproot your life and your family because you might have a bit less than that next year than you would have if you lived somewhere else? At what point do you sit down, look yourself in the mirror and say, yeah, I'm going to make my decisions based on what I like and what I love.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And then the reflection looks back at you and says, you only like and love money, boss. You don't like and love anyone else You don't like and love the people that you spend time with In the country where you live You don't like and love the country where you live You don't like and love the traditions of the country Where you've made your home
Starting point is 00:16:40 You don't like and love the population of the country Where you've made your home You don't like and love the values of the country Where you've made your home The only thing you like and love is money So off you go Seriously, hop on your private jet and fly to Dubai Where you can live under Sharia law
Starting point is 00:16:54 While reading on the Daily Mail website About how awful it would be to live under Sharia law We need money we need money do you not get that you fool so after today reeves is now without any doubt the worst chancellor in british history uh which is emphasized by the fact at any time of trouble she leans on sexism and misogyny but i have to say i have to say the tory leader kemy bayne i've been her biggest critic but she had a rare moment of brilliance she had some fire in her belly today because she wasn't taking any of Rachel's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Had any decency, she would resign. At the last budget, at the last budget, she said she was proud to be the country's first ever female chancellor. After this budget, she will go down as the country's worst ever chancellor. She even got the other, order, order. She even got the other opposition MPs chanting along. Government spending, up. Welfare spending, up.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Universal credit claimants, up. Unemployment, up. Debt interest, up. Inflation, up. And what about the things that you want to go up? What about the things you want to go up? Growth. Down.
Starting point is 00:18:28 investment down business confidence down the credibility of the Chancellor and not just down through the floor these figures are shocking does she really think that anyone will be confused by the sleight of her hand that she had in her speech her speech today was an exercise in self-delusion today she had an opportunity to apologize and show some humility instead we've been fed puff pieces in the Times and the FTE, showing a woman wallowing in self-pity, whining about mansplaining and misogyny. And in a damningly mocking tone, Badernock also made it clear why Reeves' job is simply untenable as she continued to mock her constant claims of sexism.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Her position is untenable and she knows it. She's talking to the chancellor, is he mansplaining to you, by the way? Is he mansplaining? Do you want some help? Would you like some help? What the Prime Minister should do is grow a backbone and sack her. But he won't because he knows if she goes down, he goes down with her. So we're stuck with them both, Laurel and Foolhardy. I repeat, Rachel Reeves and Keir Stama just screwed the entire country.
Starting point is 00:19:56 For analysis, let me bring in today's superstar panel. And it is brilliant to have Douglas McWilliams Commissioner of the Growth Commission with us alongside Father Calvin Robinson and Mike Graham. Mike, unleash on what we saw today. I know you've been desperate to. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I mean, you just cannot believe it.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I mean, the most remarkable start to the whole day where Rachel Reeves is sitting next to the Prime Minister looking at somebody else's phone. It's just been handed to her by Torsten Bell, reading that the entire budget has just been leaked to the world by the OBR. As somebody said earlier on today, probably by some civil servant working from home in Spain,
Starting point is 00:20:46 hit the wrong button while he was cooking his, you know, paella. You know, these people are unbelievable. And she then got up and spoke for about an hour. and I could scarcely believe what I was hearing. You know, you would almost think that she's living in some kind of cloud cuckoo land. She has absolutely no clue what she's doing. She's, as, as Kemi Badernaut just said there,
Starting point is 00:21:07 and I agree with you that she had a great day today. It's quite pathetic. You know, she's killing off the NHS. It doesn't work. The OBR, as we can see, doesn't work. The home office doesn't work. You know, all of this money that she's going to give away to families with more than two children.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Guess how many families with more than two children were born outside the UK, $340,000. Those are not my figures. Those are Nick Timothy MP's figures, right? So a huge number of people will benefit from this big family's kind of bonus to the tune of thousands of pounds a year.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And most of, well, at least a third of them, possibly more, will be foreign-born families. Thus, shoring up their vote to base, Mike. That's what this is about. You know, it's an Islamist budget. It's a benefits budget. it's a green budget because their concern
Starting point is 00:21:57 is the hard left and so they're dam in our country, aren't they, to go down a hard leftist path? Absolutely right. And watching that complete and utter numpy James O'Brien that talking about billionaires leaving the country, it's almost as if they think billionaires just sort of happen upon
Starting point is 00:22:12 a big bag of money. You know, they build businesses, they employ people, pay billions of pounds in taxes. You know, it's not a small thing when people who have that kind of money leave the country. It's a massive thing. And I'm interested as well, by the way. He doesn't seem to be that bothered about asking those same questions
Starting point is 00:22:28 that people coming into the country as to why they don't stay where they're supposed to love, why they want to come here. And so, you know, we've got businesses collapsing, people's pensions being raided. Ordinary working people also have, you know, companies and small businesses and they take dividends. You know, this is an absolute disaster for Britain, as you said. Total disaster. It is a complete and utter disaster.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Father Calvin Robinson, your verdict. I think it's very sad to watch Labour running the country into the ground and all we get from the Conservative Party is a bit of a pantomime. Lower, higher! It's so juvenile, it really is. I want to see them getting harder, tougher and holding the government to account because they're running roughshut over the budget, over the country's economy. I do think that we do need to emphasise the importance of the family
Starting point is 00:23:16 and we need to incentivise the family. So we do need to find a way to encourage British people to have larger families because British people are dying out. But you and Mike are both right in that a lot of this money will go to foreign-born families and immigrants. That is a problem. This is about...
Starting point is 00:23:32 I mean, Calvin, can we just be honest about it? Yeah. Well, it's about the Muslim vote. It is about the Muslim vote. You know, Labour wasn't going to do this last year, Father Calvin, because they didn't have the money to. What's happened in the past year, Calvin? The launch of your party,
Starting point is 00:23:49 you know, this mad Islamist mob, Corbin and, you know, Zara Sultana, and the rise of the Greens, which is now an Islamist party with their deputy leader, Mothanali. So I'm sorry, to me, this is all about the Muslim vote. And I do understand when people like you get at a concerned about our birth rate, of course we need to be concerned about the English birth rate, but that's not who this is appealing to. No, it's not. We do need a government that's strong enough to just say, actually, British people that have British babies get special benefits, but people who are foreign-born or immigrants that have babies don't get the same benefits because then it's not the same. And our country
Starting point is 00:24:29 needs to be looking after our own people first. That is highly controversial, especially to the Liberal Uniparty, so I can't see either of those doing it. But that's the system we need to go down. You know, British people are having somewhere between 1.2 and 1.4 kids. We need to get that up to two. And so that's a large gap to fill. We need to help young British people get married and have children. Douglas McWilliams of the Growth Commission, our economists today, you've got a damning verdict of this budget too, right? I'm afraid so.
Starting point is 00:25:02 The big problem is it doesn't solve any of our difficulties. She took money, but then she spent it. She hasn't closed the black hole, and we've done some sums, pretty rough and ready, like everyone's sons. But what they show is she's going to need to come back for more or more precisely her successor, because I can't really see her coming back for more. I mean, what would be her excuse next time? Is it the Battle of Hastings? Is it World War I? Has some dog crept into HMRC and eaten the revenue? I don't know. I don't see how she can credibly come back and ask for more money, but whoever's chance the next year is going to have to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So you think she's finished after today? I'm afraid so. I've actually gone through the sums. I mean, I've been looking at these things for 51 years, so I sort of know which pages to go for. And I go for them, a bit like a dog chasing a ferret or something. And if you go through the details, there's a financial statement and budget report,
Starting point is 00:26:13 Table 4-1, which tells you what the damage really is, And then there's the OBR's assessment AnnexA, which you compare with last year to see what's actually happened. And they show we've got 30 billion extra spending, 30 billion extra taxes. And the effect of that, if you go through it, is we're going to lose so much economic growth that the black hole gets bigger, not small. And that's why she's got a problem. Mike Graham, do you agree that Reeves has finished up? after this, like despite all of her fighting talk, there's no way that she can actually survive?
Starting point is 00:26:55 I don't see how she can, but you know, she and Stama seem to be like cockroaches right now, you know, because any decent chancellor would have resigned this afternoon because of what happened this morning with the OBR, this guy, Richard Hughes, who's been saying, you know, he's gonna wait, like all great British kind of civil servants, oh, he doesn't think he should resign,
Starting point is 00:27:13 he's gonna wait and see whether somebody else should tell him to resign. And then maybe he'll think about resigning. But, you know, the idea that she trusts this organisation, and it's already been discredited the OBR because most of its forecasts are wrong. You know, Liz Trust said it was down to them that she ended up having to leave office because they basically screwed everything up and the markets reacted in such a way that she was left with no choice. You know, retro he's done far worse to the economy than Liz Trust ever did.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And I didn't, you know, I'm not holding any candle for Liz Trust. But, you know, she at least wanted growth in the economy. you understood that in order for us to thrive as a country, there needs to be growth. There needs to be an incentive for people to produce things. There needs to be an incentive to go to work. Right now, you're actually better off if you're, say, on a relatively low income. You're better off not working because you'll be too grand better off if you have a few more kids.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's just insane. And so, you know, the ordinary working people of this country, who she promised would never have to pay any more tax, are now having to pay more tax. Council tax will go up everywhere. you know, food prices, and we haven't even talked about food inflation. I mean, food inflation now is out of control. And it's, I mean, all the figures will say that it's running at 5 or 6%.
Starting point is 00:28:23 It's running at about 15%, 20%. You know, you're going to buy something that was 50p last year. It's 75p, you know, and I know that that matters to an awful lot of people, but politicians don't seem to notice, but Rachel Reeves should get out of the way. The problem is, of course, who would they put in her place? I mean, you know, Torsten, Torsten Bell, who's meant to be. this genius, right? He was the guy that came up with Ed Miliband's Edstow. That was his idea, you know, and it's how clever he is. And there are all these kind of wonks, policy wonks who
Starting point is 00:28:52 think that, you know, nobody should have more money than, you know, they believe they should have and they should basically give it all to the Labour government. And we have become, I was listening today to some economists I was talking to, we have basically become like a European country. We've left Europe and become more like a European country, massively high taxes, massively high public spending and hardly any production of anything. We don't make anything. I know. Douglas McWilliams, can we just put to rest once and for all this myth that Labor is spreading, that Liz Truss is the one responsible for our entire economic catastrophe? She was only in part for seven weeks. And even then, interest rates, which were meant to
Starting point is 00:29:41 be the indicator she got wrong, didn't go anywhere near as high as they are today. So the idea that she's responsible in seven weeks for wrecking the economy is just a joke. She's become a scapegoat and I think it's rather a pity. And there are a few, I mean, Rachel Reeves complains about mansplaining. I do think some journalists go after those trusts in a slightly misogynistic way. I don't think she did everything quite right. I don't think she thinks she did everything quite right, but at least she knows that we need growth. And if we don't get growth, nothing else really matter
Starting point is 00:30:20 because we'll collapse anyway. 100%. 100% Douglas McWilliams of the Growth Commission. Thank you so much. In a massive disgrace, a complete and utter disgrace for the British deep state, as Rachel from Accounts was delivering that devastating budget
Starting point is 00:30:41 inside the House of Commons, Sadiq Khan's Metropolitan Police were going after the devastated farmers who had come far and wide in their tractors to protest this absolute shit show of a budget, which wants to, let's just be completely clear about this, destroy their businesses,
Starting point is 00:31:05 destroy their lifestyles. This government wants to destroy the people who feed us. And I believe it's sinister. What's also sinister, of course, is that this was a completely peaceful protest that at the last minute, the Metropolitan Police decided must be cancelled. And by that point, everyone was there with their tractors. I mean, there was even a cow. Watch this. Everywhere you look at the tractor. Loads and loads of tractors.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And you know what? We've even got a cow. Which was brilliant. There was absolutely no reason. For that peaceful protest to be cancelled, I believe it was part of a deep state plot to silence the farmers. And they even arrested one honest, patriotic farmer
Starting point is 00:32:05 for simply going into his tractor and taking the key. These scenes disgrace the Metropolitan Police. Watch. Section 14, we see farmers being arrested just by Trafalgar Square. It's absolutely outrageous. This is the place of the public, the public and farmers. Being arrested on the section 14 disperseal because the police the day before decides to say that they're not going to be allowed to protest. several times to follow the conditions.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Get out to my tractor to get the key out of it. We wanted you to protest safely, but you're not following the instructions. I was getting the key out of my tractor. If he was getting the key out of my pocket, for my tractor to move it, as you asked. Because you're obstructing the hour. I'm not sure you're going to be able to move the tractors then, are you? Yeah, no, really.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Stop your story, we'll see that out. Is that a competition? Isn't he angry? Why, he's not such a question? Farmers being arrested on the roundabout, Fugger Square. Shame on them all. And good on those farmers. Nigel Farage posted on X.
Starting point is 00:33:25 The planned farmers protest on Whitehall has been cancelled by the police at the last moment. They have come to London and are now being arrested. This is outrageous. Reform UK will provide legal support to. to every farmer protesting peacefully today. And Katie Hopkins added arresting the grafters who feed us. Well done to all our amazing farmers out protesting the sick government across the country. Proper men and women.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Well done to this lovely man. And she even provided her email address in case there was anything she could do to help. Mike Graham, what on earth was going on? Canceling that protest at the last minute? Why? Why? Why? Why can't they have their tractors and then arresting them? Exactly right, because of course we've forgotten because of all the other stuff that's been going on recently that they still haven't changed their policy on the farms.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They're still coming after the honest-to-goodness farmers, making out that all because they've got some property that's worth a couple of million quid, we're going to start taxing them because they must be wealthy. You know, anybody that's ever lived in the countryside, anybody that knows farmers, knows, you know, they work very, very hard, they're up before dawn, they go to bed, you know, in the middle of the night, they're working all the time, they're getting squeezed by supermarkets who are trying to profiteer all the time. And, you know, the idea that, one, they've cancelled them
Starting point is 00:34:47 from being allowed to have a pretty safe and very, very well-produced demonstration where nobody's going to attack the police. They're simply driving into a street in vehicles, getting out, and holding up a few placards. I mean, how on earth have we reached a point in this country where that is somehow illegal? And you hear the police officer there saying to the guy, you've obstructed the highway. Well, excuse me, I seem to remember just a whole
Starting point is 00:35:13 used to obstruct the highway all the time. And they just lived there. They never got arrested, you know. And it's just, I find it incredible. The idea as well that, you know, if they'd been wearing Palestinian flags on their backs, they probably would have been okay. It tells you everything you need to know
Starting point is 00:35:28 about what's wrong with the Metropolitan Police. Yeah, totally. I mean, Father Calvin Robinson, this just feels like a real, attack on our farmers, a complete bid to take away their freedom of speech and to stop these protests against the government. It was a very sinister show of force today. Sinister is a good word for it because something else is going on here. Clarkson's farm has been the best advocacy for farming in our country for a long time because you can see how oppressed farmers truly are
Starting point is 00:36:00 by government policy. Our government policy gets in the way. So the United Kingdom is about 75% or just less than that self-sufficient, as in we make enough food to feed ourselves. But we should be aiming to get 100% self-sufficient, right? We should be aiming to live and survive as a country without having to rely on other countries. But for some reason, both the Labour and Conservative governments consecutively have been subsidising farmers,
Starting point is 00:36:25 in essence, paying them to form less, and instead of paying them to grow produce that can feed us, paying them to grow stuff that cannot feed us. So the question has to be asked, why? Why does the government not want our farmers to continue farming to survive, but also so the country can survive? Well, look, globally, there's only one country in the entire world that is self-sufficient. It's not the United States of America. It's not Great Britain.
Starting point is 00:36:48 It's not Germany. It's Guyana. The globalists don't want the Western countries to be self-sufficient because the market survives on us buying off each other. Well, actually, a good government of a good country should want that country to be self-sufficient. That's what I want to see for the United Kingdom. I want to see our government helping our farmers farm so that we can feed ourselves. You're so right. They do not want us feeding ourselves.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Then we come to the dire situation right in Sadiq Khan's London, which makes me feel every day that these police officers are focused on completely the wrong thing. And I wanted to share with you both a post by one of our former colleagues, actually, someone who I know we all have great respect for Alex Phillips, who posted this on X. Walking down Edgeware Road, I can feel layering eyes burning into me. I feel almost naked, exposed, extremely self-conscious of my blondeness and western dress. I zip my coat up, as high as possible, and tuck my long hair into my collar.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I avert my eyes to the pavement and try to walk as quickly as possible, willing myself to be invisible. I am trying to ignore the hissed comments from men sat outside coffee shops with shisha and cigarettes, There is a tight fist of anxiety in my sternum as my pace quickens. But this isn't a far-flung, dangerous land that comes with a governmental travel advisory warning for solo women. This is my capital city, London. Yes, I know I don't belong here. I am the exotic stranger having to adapt my dress and behaviour for my own safety. Now, to me, that was absolutely chilling and a perfect encapsulation of actually what's gone
Starting point is 00:38:36 wrong in the capital under Khan. But of course, the Islamists, rather than listening, push back and push back hard. So that extremist Bush Reshake responded to Alex Phillips, I believe, very aggressively, writing, good grief, woman, give it a rest. Anyone and everyone has been to Edgeware Road. The place is buzzing with amazing food and cafes. Women being stared at is no new phenomenon. It happens everywhere. You're not special and nor is it due to your race or theirs. Believe me, there are far more beautiful women than you who sit in Edgeware Road every weekend doing a sheet without a single issue. Perhaps diversify your friend group a little more. Enjoy modern London and stop complaining. And Mike Graham, isn't that the type of disgusting
Starting point is 00:39:23 hard left dismissal that we see all the time? Yeah. When people honestly talk about the whole that they're now facing, especially women, especially women, who are completely unsafe in the capital city. But, you know, you're just racist, Mike, if you pointed out. This is the thing. And, you know, I know Alex Phillips well, as you do, she's moved out of London now because she couldn't stand it. She literally couldn't stand it. And this sort of nonsense that they talk, you know, modern London, like, you know, you're just a sad old white guy or a sad white woman. You know, London's not the same anymore because it's much better now. Well, I'm sorry, I was born here in the 1960s and it isn't better now. And yes, there were always men who would look at women. And yes,
Starting point is 00:40:05 there were men that would wolf whistle at women. But it's not like that now. It's a different kind of thing. It's a different feel. It's a very different danger that a lot of women. I know loads of women now who tell me that they basically don't even dress the way they would normally dress because they don't wish to provoke some of these men into making comments about them. You know, it's the same with this business of London's not any more crime-ridden than it was before. It's complete nonsense. These lefties are all deluded.
Starting point is 00:40:31 They're all trying to convince themselves that everything's fine. You know, we're all better off because we've got more Lebanese restaurants and more Shisha bars and all of that. We always had those, but you know, we just didn't have quite so many of them. And you can, as I say,
Starting point is 00:40:44 you can walk down Edgeware Road and you might think you would not actually, in fact, you'd see more English people in Dubai than you would see there, you know? Totally. It's like you're in Pakistan or in Bangladesh, same as Whitechab. Well, they are becoming no-go zones. But Father Calvin Roberts,
Starting point is 00:40:57 and I think where Bushra Sheikh is being completely naive, and what we do have to talk about is that, of course, her experience as a Muslim woman, as an Asian woman, is completely different to the experience of Alex Phillips as a white woman. And we have to be able to have that conversation, Father Colvert. Of course it's a different experience. This is why Bushershake is attacking, good old Alex Phillips, because she knows it's a problem due to Mohammedanism.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Mohammedan cultures are not the same as Western cultures. And actually they don't treat women the same But even their own women get treated differently to our women There's a hierarchy there And this is why we have the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs Because they see British girls as less than human As something to do what they want with And so when a white, blonde English woman is walking down the street
Starting point is 00:41:43 They are going to look at her and treat her differently To how they treat her Mohammed in a veil or a Nicarb or whatever that you know Cover the entire of course they are I moved to London what over 20 years I moved out last year because it's not a nice place anymore. Anyone that sits there and tells you, oh, it's more modern now, it's more diverse now.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It may be, but they're not good things. It's a toxicity of cultures that don't actually integrate well. They don't assimilate well. They're not taking on British values and British culture. They're bringing their own and trying to replace ours with theirs. Well, I don't want to live in their country. I don't live a country full of kebab shops and shisha shops. I just don't.
Starting point is 00:42:21 It's not nice. It's not pleasant. I don't like the way they treat old women. I don't like the way they interact with each other. mind does. I don't want that in my country. If that makes me a racist, then I'm a racist. I don't care. The fact is I want England to be a good place. I want it to be the place that I grew up in. I want London to be the place it was 20 years ago when I moved there. It's fantastic. Best capital in the world. Not anymore. Why? Because too much diversity dilutes a culture.
Starting point is 00:42:42 It's dangerous. It's not good. Everything in British culture, though, is now being diluted. Everything. Like, what is one of the fundamental things about the United Kingdom? Our justice system, or at least it used to be, but I don't believe we have a justice system anymore. I believe our justice system is completely politicized. Look at the witch hunts against people like Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate and Russell Brand. And now, as soon as he is in power, David Lammy, the thickest politician in the land, the most corruptible politician in the land, someone who I think is having his strings pulled very much by the establishment and the deep state, has reversed his long
Starting point is 00:43:26 held view that jury trials are an absolutely critical part of what it means to be English and what it means for our justice system. Now, yeah, this guy is stupid. Of course he is. And he's corruptible. Of course he is. But this is what he said about the need for jury trials before he was in power. Watch. One person who can tell you why this is such a bad idea is David Lammy. He wrote his famous Lammy report in 2017, looking at racial bias in our justice system. The jury system is fundamental to our constitutional arrangement. We should not use the coronavirus as a cover to abandon juries,
Starting point is 00:44:14 which is the opportunity to be judged by 12 of your peers. Juries being replaced by judges and magistrates is effectively the establishment. rather than your peers who live in your community, deciding what justice should be. But lo and behold, in power, being controlled by the deep state, David Lammy, Calamity Lammy, has done a complete 180. Wanting to scrap juries for most crimes, other than rapes, murders and manslaughter. As Nigel Farage posted, the jury trial has been an essential part of our freedoms for centuries. it is our protection against the state.
Starting point is 00:44:57 For the government to remove it in most cases will give our politicised judiciary far too much power. Next, they will move to plea bargaining and nearly all cases will end in a guilty verdict. This Labour government is crushing our freedom. Tommy Robinson added juries are to be scrapped in all cases except murder, rape and manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:45:15 David Lemmy is to announce. England has had juries dating back 1,200 years. These clowns are lessened to our institutes in a time of activist judges and they want judges to decide the fate of the people alone, it's extraordinary. And I really think we cannot forget that it's Lammy who has been put in charge of this. Lammy, the most stupid cabinet minister ever. And if you think I'm being unfair, well, just this week,
Starting point is 00:45:49 Lammy admitted that his second top role model in life was Bill Cosby. The same Bill Cosby who was accused by over 60 women for rape, drug facilitated sexual assault, sexual battery, child sexual abuse and sexual harassment. Are you really telling me he didn't know that? So he's that stupid to admit that. And there are some other examples of David Lammy's stupidity that should make us fear him having this position of power. Do you remember these moments?
Starting point is 00:46:26 If it feels like neighbourhood policing has vanished, it's not around you. We haven't seen a police while I've been here, and I've been here for a little while now. What was the married name of the scientist Marie and Pierre who won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1903 for their research into radiation? Antoinette.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Cury. James Gandalfini played a mafia boss called Tony and which American television series? Godfather. The Sopranos, which variety of blue English cheese traditionally accompanies port? Lester. Stilton. Who acceded to the English throne at the age of nine
Starting point is 00:46:59 on the death of his father, Henry VIII, in 1547? Henry the 7th. Edward the 6th. In chemistry, what French word is used for a tube for transferring measured amounts of liquids? Pass. I will leave it for the public to come to their own judgments about someone who
Starting point is 00:47:18 once flirted with Hitler youth when he was younger. That is for the public. So to my superstar panel, Mike Graham and Father Calvin Robinson. Mike, this is one of these situations where you actually don't know whether to laugh or cry. I mean, he is... I was literally just giggling and giggling watching that mastermind clip of the police clip. But it's actually terrifying. You know, how...
Starting point is 00:47:41 It's just the calibre of MPs that we have, not just MPs, now senior members of the cabinet. Deputy Prime Minister. It's incredible, isn't it? This guy is now holding, you know, literally the scales of justice in his hands, you know, like, you know, like the statue above the old Bailey, for heaven's sake. And I've spoken to a lot of barristers about this in last few days. And they all say, not only is it a terrible idea from the point of view of our personal freedom and our personal rights. And no matter what you've done and you've been accused of, you surely have the rights of a jury trial no matter what, you know, at the end of the day, he will be not only taking that away from people, but it won't actually cure the system either because it will make the system even more blocked than it already is. There's 80,000 cases in the backlog right now.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And if they do this, that won't get reduced. So what's the point? Father Calvin Robinson, this is really, I think, about democracy, isn't it? About the increasing end of what we view as being a free Britain. It's that serious. Yeah, it's bigger than democracy. It's about our rights as human beings. We've had the right to request a jury of our peers for,
Starting point is 00:48:55 hundreds and hundreds of years, actually prior to Magna Carta, but I've got the quote here from Magna Carta itself that says, no free man shall be seized or imprisoned or stripped of his rights or possessions or outlawed or exiled or deprived of his standing in any way, nor will we proceed with force against him or send others to do so except by the lawful judgment of his peers. And this is important because it's about freedom. It's about our rights as an Englishman in an English country. And that means that an activist judge or an establishment peer or a member of parliament cannot dictate the judgment of whether we are guilty or not of a crime. And we've seen this. We've seen the parliamentarians leaning on the judicial system for so long over the last few months saying, you know, we're going to treat the far right worse than everyone else. We're going to address this crime worse than every.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And actually, that's not how it should work. It should be the judgment of our peers that say you are guilty or not guilty of this crime. And then the judge decides on the penalty determines it based on if you're guilty or not. But what we're going to have is parliamentarians saying we want to push the far right narrative away. We want anyone that addresses, like I said, any Muslim grooming gangs needs to be arrested. Anyone who addresses immigration needs to be arrested and found guilty of these crimes. That's what we're going to see. 100% because Mike Graham, it's happening.
Starting point is 00:50:11 It's happening. I mean, Graham Linehan, Tommy Robinson, Andrew Tate, Russell Brandt. I mean, this is not a coincidence that they all happen to be. I mean, I don't know how you group together, people like us, I would say. But, you know, freedom fighters, conservatives, people on the right, however you do it, they have been targeted by the judiciary. There's no question that different rules have been applied to different people. I mean, look at Lucy Connolly, for example.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You know, there she was. And the prime minister has assured us because, of course, he's never told a line. life, that he did not put any pressure on the CPS, the CPS did not put any pressure on her, that her lawyer did not put any pressure on her. Of course not. And she decided to plead guilty, completely out of her, you know, the fullness of her brain. She just thought, I know, I'll plead guilty. I'll tell you why she pleaded guilty.
Starting point is 00:51:04 She's pleaded guilty because she was encouraged to do so. By people who knew full well, if she did, she would be punished more severely and not less severely. And they did that to so many people who then didn't have a trial, you know, that guy, the counsellor, I think, is still waiting for his trial, isn't he? The one who did the throat thing. You know, these are all different people being treated differently because of their politics. And so this would be the first step in my view. I mean, there's a list which was doing the rounds today on social media of other world leaders who have introduced no jury trials. And it includes people like Mussolini, Idi Amin, you know, Bashar al-Assad in
Starting point is 00:51:42 Syria, Saddam Hussein, you know, an entire sort of litany of, you know, really, really fascist leaders and killers, and they're the countries that have been doing it. And so now you can add Keir Sama and David Lammy to the list. Are you having a laugh? That's a really good point, isn't it, Father Calvin? I mean, if this were a right-wing government, they would be accused of fascism. But the MSM are giving the Labor government a complete farce because, sorry, complete pass, because they're saying, well, the justice system has become such a farce that this incompetence
Starting point is 00:52:15 means we have to do this. just sort the bloody justice system out. It's the whole show of British politics, isn't it? The far left are actually so totalitarian that they are indeed fascist, and David Lamy is proving that. But I think you're also right that he's just not very clever. And we often talk about, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:33 there could be some kind of intelligence test for people who get the right to vote. They should probably be an intelligence test for people who get the right to stand for Parliament. He's thick as mince. He is thick as mince, this guy. And I mean, that's a concern, Father Calvin, though, isn't it? Like, I'm deadly serious about this because, let's be on, Lammy isn't running anything.
Starting point is 00:52:56 He's not running anything. Like, the guy was the foreign secretary, despite the fact that he had described Trump as a white supremacist neo-Nazi. He's not running anything. So the problem is when you put someone that stupid in, Mike, what the deep state love is they can just completely control him. Of course. Well, I mean, everybody knows when he was foreign secretary, the guy who was making all the decisions and the guy who was going down to the Chegos Islands and selling it off to effectively the Chinese, because that's what we know has basically happened. It was that guy, Jonathan Polk, who of course was all part of the Blair Cabal back in the early part of the Labour leadership and the Labour running the country with Tony Blair.
Starting point is 00:53:44 in the early part of this century. You know, these are the people, the powers behind the throne, if you like, the sort of the Morgan McSweeney characters, although I find it hard to believe that he's clever as well because he's made a complete, you know, balls up of absolutely everything he's touched.
Starting point is 00:53:58 But these are sort of the quiet, silent killers who are running this country. And look at the civil servants. Look at the open people running the OBR. You know, nothing works in this country. And the Justice Department is just as bad. They can't deal with all of the crime because they don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:54:13 You know, in the same way the home office isn't fit for purpose, the foreign office. I mean, I haven't seen anybody from the foreign office talking about anything for weeks and possibly months. You know, I don't know even who's running it anymore. You know, I know it's supposed to be Ed Bulls' wife, but, you know, you never see her. What's she doing?
Starting point is 00:54:30 No, you definitely don't. You definitely don't. It's deeply concerning. And this is an issue I think that we're going to have to fight on. Do you know what I mean, Father Calvin? Because it's not necessarily, sexy as an issue, but this is the type of issue that we all need to be fighting hard for. The right to a jury trial, it is fundamental.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, there are two issues here. There's the right to a jury trial which we must fight for if we want to protect our freedom from the state, but also there's the caliber of our politicians and the demographic from which they are selected. Until 100 years ago, you had to be a member of the Church of England to stand for Parliament and it's always been that case. And it was implied that you'd have to be English too. I think it should be the case that you should have to be English and you should have to be a Christian to run in England, a Christian country. And I think we have to have a
Starting point is 00:55:25 look at who's running, you know, to have someone called Mahmoud, which is an interpretation of Mohammed as the Secretary of State in the Home Office, when we have a problem with Mohammedans in our country and we have a problem with immigration in our country and policing, it's not appropriate. It's entirely inappropriate. And so we need to address. We need a strong leader who's willing to stand up with a political capital to say, actually, England is both an English country and a Christian country. And anyone who stands for office in our country needs to tick both of those criteria, at the very least. Now, today is super exciting for me, because Father Calvin Robinson and Mike Graham are reunited on screen for the first time now that Mike
Starting point is 00:56:10 is fully independent, because this has been a while, right, hasn't it, Mike, given that I guess there was the whole G.B. News versus talk TV thing. And then talk TV. I think you went on a couple of times, didn't you father come? But, but, you know, you weren't necessarily a palatable regular guest for them. So it's very nice to have you back together. And Mike, you've certainly been unleashed. And a lot of people are noticing how you have been unleashed since moving fully independent. And of course, predictably. And I I think this is a great thing. There's already a left-wing campaign to shut you down
Starting point is 00:56:48 after your appearance in Essex at the Pink Ladies' Events. So I want to get your verdict on this, but let's just remind everyone about what you said first. Only yesterday, there's another one. Some Afghan bastard has come into this country and sexually assaulted and raped a 12-year-old girl. I mean, what is going on? You know, we don't want these people here, right?
Starting point is 00:57:13 I don't care about these, you know, BBC types who go, well, surely not saying they're all rapists. Actually, I am saying they're all fucking rapists, you know, because it's the only language they understand, right? We don't want them here. We don't need them here. And they shouldn't be here. And we certainly don't want them anywhere near this town in Wellesfield, 600 of them being busted. Q Lifty, outrage by karate mic, he posted. Mike Graham, the disgraced former talk TV presenter, I don't know who he's disgraced by, has just told a pink lady's anti-refugee protest and Chelmsford that all asylum seekers are fucking rapists. And then your party, Councillor Alan Gibbons, came in and said, this is hate speech, pure and simple.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Harry Eccles added, this is gross racism and hate speech. So, Mike, they're coming for you again. Are you worried? No, because, you know, they've always been coming for me. me. They've been coming from me for years, you know, and the problem is they're not upset about the fact that a 12-year-old girl has been raped. No. They're not upset about the fact that, you know, this is going on day in, day out. They're not upset by the people, the local people and the families and the children who don't want to go out at night because they're frightened
Starting point is 00:58:27 of what might happen. They're not concerned about any of that. They're just concerned about people that say things that they might not like to hear because I'm afraid they're going to be hearing a lot of it. Father Calvin Robinson, I mean, firstly, this is obviously the first time that you've been on with Mike, but what was interesting is that you actually thought, and obviously Mike is very, very clear that he didn't send the post and he was hacked, but you didn't even think the post that ended up leading to his axing from Talk TV was racist anyway. No, and it is great to be back on with Mike.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Mike was the first presenter to get me on Talk Radio back in the day. And you know me, I'm a loyal person, so I respect and admire him for that. but you know what whether it was hacked or not whether it was Mike's post or not the post was inoffensive the post was accurate right there's a problem in our country and anyone who raises the awareness of the problem is accused of racism or xenophobia or Islamophobia all these kind of things hate speech that that's not a problem if Mike's speech just then the clip that we saw if it was hate speech yeah it was hate speech against rapists we should all be hating rapists right and I've said it's time and time again if five percent of the demographics of our country is responsible responsible for 65% of the child grooming and child sexual exploitation. We should get that five percent out. Even if someone says, well, not all of them. It doesn't matter. Too many of them are. They need to go. It's not safe for our girls. That's the priority. Young, British, working class, white girls are being groomed and raped systematically by people from another land. So why are we saying, oh, it's racist to point it out? It doesn't matter if it's racist
Starting point is 01:00:01 to point it out. It's rape and it needs to stop. And so I'm absolutely 100% with Mike on that. And I'm 100% with Mike on his previous post. When I go to London now, and I look around, I don't see very many English people. I don't see very many Londoners. And you can argue for a multi-ethnic, multi-faith, multicultural society if you want. But at least some degree of them should be from the place that you're in, right? If I go to London, the capital city of England, I should see English people there. If I don't see any, and I don't hear anyone speaking English, there's a problem there, and it needs to be addressed.
Starting point is 01:00:29 But raising the problem itself is the bigger issue for these people on the left, because diversity is their God. And I mean, Mike, it's worth pointed out, you know, Father Calvin, he's not a white man. And I know you've had other non-white people who have been saying to you, this is not. I've said before, it's not a color thing. It's not a race thing. It's more of a nationality thing, to be honest, because there are certain countries who are more likely, and these are government figures again, who are more likely to have men coming from them, who are likely to commit sexual crimes against women. These are simply the facts.
Starting point is 01:01:08 And, I mean, I'm afraid the lefties don't like facts. They don't like to have to admit to things like that. And they start asking questions about whether the study was biased or, you know, the studies are not biased. The studies are there for everybody to see the government figures. Even this useless, hopeless, crappy Labour government wants to get rid of these people, you know. So how is it racist to talk about it and to say, we should get rid of them? I mean, it's government policy now.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah, totally, totally. And, Mike, did you do you, do you, I mean, Do you feel a sense now, though, that when you were at that pink ladies event, you were able to be more, you know, to use my favorite word, more outspoken than what you would have been able to be. You know, whenever I'm at a live event, you know, I kind of just go with what I'm feeling. And, you know, I don't generally prepare my speech. I don't generally think an awful lot about what I'm going to say. It was a beautiful crowd. It was a horribly cold day.
Starting point is 01:02:03 so many people turned out in the freezing cold and they were there because they believe in something and they have a proper community they want to protect and so I felt that vibe and I responded to it you know and so yeah I mean I may have been slightly more shall we say expressive than I might have otherwise been
Starting point is 01:02:24 but I think I said this to you when we had the interview you know probably if I'd still been a talk and I'd said I was thinking of going to that they might have advised me not to go Yeah, I do think that's different. Before I got into this industry, over 10 years ago, there were two, well, there were a few of you that I used to listen to, but two people I used to listen to every day.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Julia Hartley Brewer and the Independent Republic of Mike Graham, and you've put so much work, so much blood, sweat and tears into that place. I think it's absolutely abysmal the way they treated you at the end, and the way they just shrugged you off as if you're a piece of dirt on the bottom of their shoe. I think it's disgusting. I think the entire industry is disgusting. And I think it's a shame that not enough of your colleagues and friends stood up for you. Yeah. Well, as I said to Dan, you know, I don't really blame them for that. And funny enough, I ran into Julia, Arley Brewer at a lunch on Friday last week, you know, and we'd be fine. You know, it's a tough business. It's a hard business. And, you know, I've got friends there. And I will always have friends there. I've got friends in all sorts of parts of the media. But most of the people in it are not very nice. Let's put it that way.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Father Calvin? Because We actually always had this debate, Calvin and myself, because when what happened to us that GB News happened, I was a bit more like you, Mike. So I sort of understood, didn't I, Calvin, why people maybe wouldn't be able to speak publicly. But for you, Father, it was a real bottom line, a sort of morality test. Yeah, because what's important in life, people, right? God and people and you are my friends so if something happens to you
Starting point is 01:04:07 I'm going to stand up for you if that means I lose my job what does that matter what's a job at the end of the day my relationship with you is more important and I don't understand people that don't see it like that you know people that think oh if I say anything I might lose this promotion I might not get this
Starting point is 01:04:19 spot on air I want to get that slot or whatever it's disgusting it's shameful it's an empty view of the world it's like we are better than that as people we have to be better than that as people we're going to stand by each other otherwise we're all on our Well, exactly. And as plenty of people have seen since what happened to you guys at GV News, you know, they've come for other people as well, haven't they? Of course.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Well, yes, but I just, look, I just have to show you something, Mike, because I think it does sort of prove why they've made such a mistake. So let's just look at the numbers for Plank of the Week. So if you see here a month ago, that was your last episode, okay? 282,000 views. You're then suspended, goes down to 127, 105,000, 146,000,
Starting point is 01:05:13 94,000. The most recent episode, Mike, 74,000 views. Now, actually, if we go back a bit further for you, you were regularly getting over 300,000 views of Plank of the week. So 75% of the audience has gone.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Amazing, isn't it? Amazing. And I think that's probably going to be the case for the morning show as well. I haven't seen any up-to-date numbers, but I know an awful lot of people are watching it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Well, it's a good thing, isn't it, at the end of the day? The Independent Republic of Mike Raym is now independent, truly. And you can say what you're like, you can go where you want, do what you want, and actually that's freeing. And I think the audience is going to respect that. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Mike, I've got to ask you about something that happened with G.B. News in regards to the pink ladies' protests. But actually, just before we do, a bit of fun, Calvin, they're still having a, still having a few issues. This was Andrew Pearce, uh, presenting their morning show yesterday. Watch. Oh, you bastard. That'd be very bad. it is 11 o'clock on Tuesday the 25th of November
Starting point is 01:06:33 this is Britain's Newsroom with Andrew Pierce and Miriam Cates Oh no An unfortunate word by me That's because I was in the wrong place at the wrong time So we weren't prepared So grovelling apologies from me Oh father Calvin
Starting point is 01:06:48 Some things don't change Some things never change Always people only do Always assume the mic is on Right But Mike, I did want to ask you about GB News. We covered this on the show yesterday. So Alex Armstrong, who was a good guy, went down and interviewed you at the pink ladies event.
Starting point is 01:07:11 And look, you were the biggest name there. It was the big deal. It was the news of the day. And it was a very good interview, which I was able to obtain the footage of. Now, when GB News broadcast their full package that night, they had. they interviewed all of the other smaller players like James McLeodock and Adam Brooks no sign of your interview whatsoever
Starting point is 01:07:35 I spoke to one of my sources at GB News who said they do think that that GB News had cancelled you and it was an editorial decision not to include you I just wondered what you thought about that decision yeah well do you know I watched your show last night as I now do every night because it's now the only show that I watch you know why would I watch anything else
Starting point is 01:07:54 And I didn't even know that, you know, so I was like, oh, that's interesting because I just assumed, you know, I'm not as much as a lot of people think I've got a massive ego, you know, yes, I have, but I don't expect, you know, to be the star of the show or anything like that. But I did, but I don't watch TV news, so I didn't really watch the show to see whether I was on it. But I was quite surprised when you said that they decided not to run any of it at all. Because apart for anything else, it was fairly innocuous.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I didn't swear, it was relatively, you know, sort of tamering. and Alex was very nice and he was very happy because I haven't seen Alex for years either so yeah I mean if they've cancelled me well it just goes to show you that when you asked me the question
Starting point is 01:08:36 would you go to GB News and I said no and you said why and I said well it would be just the same wouldn't it they just say the same things and they wouldn't want me to be too controversial and they wouldn't want me to go out on particular positions
Starting point is 01:08:48 on things because GB News is now you know in a minute I mean again they've got some good people working there But, you know, it's a pretty boring station, to be honest. I look for a lot of what they do. It's just not very good, you know? It's rolling establishment news. No, I actually agree.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It's a sad thing to say because obviously the opposite we wanted it to be right when we launched it. Father Calvin was boring. But I think a lot of it is now. And I was at last night actually a brilliant dinner, a brilliant dinner for Restore Britain, which is... Wasn't at Joe Allen, was it? No, it definitely wasn't at Joe Allen's. It was at Rupert Lowe's club, and, you know, I love Rupert Lowe. He's obviously launched Restore Britain, but it was a really interesting event.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Chatham House Rules, but what was great is there was a cross-section of people, obviously Restore Britain's like a non-party political organisation. So David Starkey was there. He's actually on the show tomorrow night. Susan Hall from the Conservatives was there. Gavin Williamson was there. But so too were people from the independent media like Connor Tomlinson and Carl Benjamin, who I have to say just went for Gavin Williamson.
Starting point is 01:09:55 It was sort of wonderful to watch, but they were both giving as good as they got. But Rupert Lowe said to me, he remains completely banned by GB News, which to me is extraordinary. I mean, they have them on talk, Mike, but completely banned by GB News. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I know. It's insane, isn't it? And you think, well, I'm going to say the words, independent media, which of course now means something completely different to me than they used to. to because they're clearly not independent media, which is a pity because, you know, we need people to tell the truth and you need to listen to people.
Starting point is 01:10:31 We need to, you know, interact with each other at various points, sometimes maybe not always in a pleasant way, but, you know, we don't all, I've said this to you before, we don't all have to be friends, we don't all have to believe the same things. We don't all have to, you know, gather around and worship the same, you know, idol in the middle of the table. You know, we can all come from different places, but we can all talk, you know, that's what we do. Yes. Well, on that note, oh, sorry, Father Governor. The three of us here don't all agree on many, many things,
Starting point is 01:10:59 but we're able to have these conversations. That's one thing I was never able to do at GB News. I wasn't able to get Tommy Robinson on or Katie Hopkins. I wasn't able to have a conversation with people I may disagree with on some stuff, but actually we could find some common ground and the British people deserve to have the questions and answers had. Rather than just canceling people. Well, actually, I did want to ask you about that, both of you,
Starting point is 01:11:20 because Mike, and good on you for doing it, you know, you did an interview with Tommy Robinson's media outlet at the Pink Ladies event. This was with Brother Wendell for Urban Scoot. And I mean, he was pretty tough. You know, well, he asked, look, let's just watch and I'll get your reaction off the back.
Starting point is 01:11:39 So, Mike, good afternoon. My name is Wendell Daniel. I'm currently live streaming. I need to answer you a question in regards to Tommy Robinson. As you know, you have been condemned. I mean Tommy Robinson as a racist for many, many years. You have been accused of racism,
Starting point is 01:11:58 and I believe you may have been sacked or kicked out of talk TV. What do you have to say now that you have also been called the same as Tommy? Well, I've had a lot to say. I've already done a big interview. With Dan Wharton, but you're interviewing with me. Yeah, I know, but I don't really got much to say about Tommy. Tommy and I don't get on. But you've been calling him a racist
Starting point is 01:12:22 and you are now being labelled as a racist so what do you have to say? Well, shit happens is what I can say. She happens, right? That's it. Good one, mate. Give him my regards. I will do...
Starting point is 01:12:32 But I'm currently live streaming on Tommy Robinson's YouTube and Tommy's Twitter. Will you be inviting him as one of your guests onto your show? You never know. Won't see. Possibly. Wayne to see.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I have to say, I thought that was a blockbuster exchange. Love Brother Wendell, but I also loved Shit Happens. But Tommy did respond. So he posted, shit happens. Brother Wendell interviewed Mike Graham earlier at the Pink Ladies' protest in Chelmsford. He politely confronted Mike, saying he lost his job on Talk TV after being accused of racism. Ironic, something Mike has accused me of for years while working with an establishment media feathering his own nest. It would be interesting to see if Mike has the balls to actually interview me now. He's free from the shackles of establishment media. I would do it just out of interest. The irony of this isn't lost on me, Dan Woodson. So he's offered to come on your new show, Mike. I mean, he's been doing this for years, Dan, you know? I don't know why he said desperate for me to interview,
Starting point is 01:13:32 but he does seem to be very, very much obsessively. He denies his obsessively. But he then went and found some tweet for about five years ago to prove his point. You know, this is going to go on for a while, I'm sure, you know, because I just, you know, part of me thinks I shouldn't do it because he's so horrible, and he's been horrible about me and to me, regardless of everything that has happened over the years. He's never cut me any slack, as I said to you,
Starting point is 01:13:58 the original kind of falling out that we had was all about some pretty nasty stuff that he was threatening to do, and it wasn't just about demonstrating outside the office. You know what I mean? So we'll see. Listen, I'm not completely closed-minded about it, but it's not going to happen straight away, that's for sure. Father Calvin, what's your view on all of this? as a supporter of Mike and Tommy. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:19 So obviously, I've always stood up for Tommy every time he's been cancelled. And when Mike got cancelled, I stood up for Mike too. But Tommy jumped in on the thread, pretty much saying, you know, you shouldn't support Mike because he hasn't liked me. And I'm, you know, I support all of you guys. I disagree with Tommy on some stuff. I disagree with Mike on some stuff. But to see you both come together for a conversation,
Starting point is 01:14:36 even if you walk away at the end of it, still not liking each other, the viewer would win, we would win, finding out where you disagree, where you actually agree, and find the common ground. And actually, it shows growth, too. for both you and for Tommy, because, you know, he's been out there. He was quite young when he started, and, you know, we all changed.
Starting point is 01:14:51 And maybe he's a different guy now. I don't know. But he could certainly do me some growth. The Mike Graham Show.com is the address, right? Yeah. Amazing. You can sign up on Substack right now, and there is much more coming soon.
Starting point is 01:15:14 And I am very excited about it. cannot wait to appear on the Mike Graham show, be hopefully making my first appearance on Plank of the Week. Amazing. And thank you for having me on your show again. No, no, no, absolutely delightable. I think it's really important on these big news days, actually, like that I'll come on yours in the morning.
Starting point is 01:15:34 You come on, you know, that's what people want to see. And of course, Father Calvin Robinson is the host, and it's back. It's back on air of Reclaim the Media's Fox and Fox and Full. father or co-host of course alongside Lawrence Fox so thank you both and I hope sorry to interrupt but I hope Calvin you'll be able to come on my new show as well I had a big afro I had no greys
Starting point is 01:15:58 and I was a school teacher the first time I came on your show I'd love to come back on Mike by the way I'm being scolded Father Calvin because I know you hate my swearing and 14 barb- You're swearing a lot more now Dan I know it's so bad and my dad hates it too and 14 Baba has just said Dan please no more swearing in front of Father Calvin Robinson I think Alan was disappointed last time as well
Starting point is 01:16:21 I know I'm sorry I just get so mad sometimes I get so mad about what's going on but I will try not to swear in front of the father thank you both so much lots of other comments coming in too Mad Dog Prash said I heard David Lammy is appearing in the remake of dumb and dumber
Starting point is 01:16:38 Juliet Johnson says I agree with Alex Phillips 100% about Edgewear Road any white woman that goes there shouldn't be alone. And Theresa Brewer, thank you for the super chat, Theresa, says, Advance UK all the way. And Ms. Chloe's list says Starkey will be great over the no jury thing. And yes, very much looking forward to having the great Dr. David Starkey back on outspoken tomorrow alongside Lois Perry.
Starting point is 01:17:06 So make sure you're with us for that. A reminder of your nominees of today's worst Britain in the world today. Union Jackass, Rachel Reeves, nominated by Mick Cass for monumentally screwing over Britain with Streeteries, nominated by Darren Donaldson for allowing children, for allowing puberty blocking experiments, sorry, on children, as young as eight, and slippery starma nominated by Mad Dog Photo for showing support for the Snowflake Chancellor Rachel Reeves. Okay, on another day, I think West Streeting would have had more than 3% of your vote. but I do understand why.
Starting point is 01:17:42 And on another day, I think Slippery Stama would have had more than 23% of your vote. But I understand why. Today's Union Jackass, with an overwhelming 73% of your vote. Rachel from Accounts, Rachel Thieves, the worst chancellor in British history. And today's Greatest Britain, this was a surprise, but I totally understand. nominated by G. Shire's 545, Kemi Badernock, who says, despite Kemi's weakness,
Starting point is 01:18:18 she gave Reeves an absolute rollicking today, credit where credit is due. And I couldn't agree more. I could not agree more. She did do a sterling job. But I'm a total equal opportunity when it comes to that. You know, I'm not party political. If someone's done a great job,
Starting point is 01:18:37 I don't care what party they have. from and Kemi Baderok did a superb job today. She took down Rachel from accounts. And I just think that's great. Doesn't mean I'm going to vote for the Conservative Party again, but I think she did a great job today. Okay, we're moving over to Substack now for the Uncanceled Aftershow. www. www. outspoken.com. Live is the address P. Diner standing by, there is a huge scandal involving Megan Markle in this reportedly stolen dress. She's hit back. Plus, Catherine, the Princess of Wales, and a plot against her by Buckingham Palace. I'm going to expose everything I know about this.
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