Dan Wootton Outspoken - CHILDREN STABBED/MANCHESTER AIRPORT TRUTH/ROBINSON ARRESTED W/ LAURENCE FOX & SUE COOK | OUTSPOKEN EP #17

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Dan reacts to a chilling weekend in Britain under Slippery Starmer where sectarian violence means the government will back a Muslim mob over beaten police officers, Free Speech will no longer be protected at universities, and Tommy Robinson is arrested under the auspices of terrorism. Then today, children have been stabbed in a “major incident” in Southport. All the latest with Dan’s brilliant guests, Reclaim Party leader Laurence Fox and former Crimewatch presenter Sue Cook. To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium ---------- Today’s Sponsors: VERSO - https://buy.ver.so/outspoken - Use code OUTSPOKEN to save 15% on your first order. MANSCAPED - https://manscaped.com – get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken. ---------- #news #southport #manchesterairport To make sure you never miss a single Dan Wootton Outspoken video, click here to subscribe: Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live/premium ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?... Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook:   / danwootton   Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 17. And breaking right now, Hugh Edwards, the BBC's main news presenter for decades who announced the death of the late Queen, has been charged with three counts of making indecent images of children. The 62-year-old will appear at Westminster's Magistrates Court on Wednesday morning. A police spokesman has just released a statement in the past hour which says the offences which are alleged to have taken place between December 2020 and April 2022 relate to images shared on a WhatsApp chat. Edwards was arrested on the 8th of November 2023. He was charged on Wednesday the 26th of June following authorisation from the Crown Prosecution Service.

He has been bailed to appear at Westminster's Magistrates Court on Wednesday the 31st of July. Media and the public are strongly reminded that this is an active case. Nothing should be published including on social media which could prejudice future court proceedings and this does mean that at this point there is little more that can be said about this potentially major scandal. I would warn folk who are already making assumptions of guilt on social media to be very careful because the way the police act in this type of story means that you could be the one being arrested and it is critical isn't it that we do exist in a system where you are innocent until proven guilty and where there is proper judicial systems to deal with something like this that said major questions

for the bbc to answer here also breaking right now horrifying reports that seven young girls have been stabbed at a Taylor Swift themed dance class in Southport. One child believed to have been killed by a knife man who we believe is now in police custody. Again, there is a lot of speculation about the story, about the identity of the knife man. We're going to be speaking to Nicholas Lissac, who has been doing some journalism on this today. But we will be very careful. There is going to be time to address what happened. But let's get the facts first. I would say, though, what is going on in the UK?

These horrifying duo of breaking stories today follows a weekend of shame for Britain, which we will cover in depth on the show today. Labour threw the police under the bus despite bombshell CCTV footage showing officers coming under attack by the Muslim men at Manchester Airport who were presented as victims. And then yesterday, Tommy Robinson was arrested apparently under the Terrorism Act after his unsuccessful and very positive Uniting the Kingdom march. Lawrence Fox, co-organiser of that event, joins me live for his first interview since shortly. Then the Paris Olympics forced into a grovelling apology following outrage that the dire opening ceremony decided to mock the Last Supper. And a top commentator has been axed after making a

harmless joke about women. So where are the priorities again? We'll cover it all later with the BBC legend, the former presenter of Crime Watch, one of the good ones, Sue Cook. And remember, our uncancelled after show will feature Sue and so much more. You can register to watch it on our very own website. www.outspoken.live is the address. Remember, it's our safe space. Free of censorship and control of big tech. And your support at just £5 a month not only gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekday, it also allows us to continue making this independent daily news show. Let's go. A chilling weekend in Britain under Slippery Starmer, where sectarian violence means the government will back a Muslim mob throwing eggs at Rochdale police station over beaten police officers.

The government will decry that free speech is no longer protected at universities. And Tommy Robinson can be arrested on the auspices of terrorism without a question even being asked. Meanwhile, the MSM has now become a true enemy of the people, censoring any voices that challenge globalist narratives and lying about events so brazenly that once you're awake to their antics, it's impossible to unsee them. Like Sly News, branding Saturday's perfectly run and celebratory Uniting the Kingdom march in Trafalgar Square as, quote, far right and assigning their veteran crime correspondent Martin Brunt to cover the event despite no crime actually taking place. By contrast, the corrupt media elite and political establishment had just spent the past 48 hours trying to justify race protests in Rochdale after footage from Manchester airport on Tuesday night went viral

showing the police apparently beating innocent Muslim men. Now it was obvious to me from the very beginning of that release of highly selective footage that the left was attempting to use it to spark George Floyd style race riots here in the UK and prompt a British defund the police movement. The reaction was sickening. Yvette Cooper, the new Home Secretary, threw the police under the bus almost immediately, where I thought her job was to defend them wherever possible. Star Mahi opportunistically weighed in as well. But it was the local Labour MP Paul Waugh who was the worst.

He went out of his way to placate the family behind the scenes, meeting with them multiple times and making his position abundantly clear. Thank you Mr Speaker. The video footage of a Greater Manchester Police officer stamping on and kicking a man in Manchester airport is truly shocking and disturbing. That man is one of my constituents in Rochdale and I'm meeting his family later today. Our police face a very difficult job every day in keeping us all safe but they themselves know that they have to expect the highest standards of conduct in their duties. Will the leader make time in this house to discuss the important issue of police conduct? Instead the drumbeat from the media and social media mob was so loud it was predictably announced

that the police officer concerned was suspended and then under criminal investigation his life destroyed at least for a lengthy period I think for trying to protect the public but on Saturday night I was proven right when Manchester Evening News released this sickening footage from before the initial incident that went viral showing the so-called victims brutally attacking the police officers. Now I can't help thinking what if this footage had not been leaked? Or even worse, what if it didn't exist at all? Meanwhile, the grifter TikTok lawyer Ahmed Yarkud has had a humiliating 48 hours and we should celebrate this. First, he tried to justify his claims that the police

had attempted to assassinate his clients. After viewing the CCTV footage from Manchester airport, I would like to say that nothing can justify a kick to the head to a defenseless man and a stump to the head. Those are my views. These officers are highly trained. They shouldn't be losing control or seeing red. What do you guys think? But by this morning, he was out of a job and shown for the fool that he is. You may have seen the various media reports about me in the fool that he is. and police misconduct which is unfair on the greater manchester police and the family so after consulting with the family i have decided for now to step aside and i have recommended

the family to a lawyer but i will be keeping a close eye on this and i like to say that I am not for violence whether it's from police officers whether it's from civilians always remember that can we all just collectively agree please to never listen to that fool again to never let him try and spark some sort of race war in this country again, to never platform him again. Speaking of fools, Britain's biggest race grifter wasn't prepared to admit she was wrong. You have to be intellectually dishonest to think this video absolves the police of extrajudicial beating, assault, previous bodily harm and abuse of power. The police were the aggressors from the get-go to the get-in. The boy was compliant, you had him in your control, why push his head down and hit

him against a vending machine? Why punch the brother a couple of times before the brother retaliated? And then the brother sits down with his hand to his head. Then when you have the boy thrown down on the ground, why kick him in his head? So even when you have the situation in control, you are not in control. Dr. Shohla there. The type of loon who now seems to set the media agenda. The same sort of person who did not give a damn about the fact that three gun-wielding cops had been hospitalized because of the attack, including a female officer with a broken nose. They also didn't condemn the Alu Akbar shouting thugs who spent two nights terrorising Rochdale police station and threatening violence if they didn't get their way.

The English way of existence is now under the most serious threat for centuries and only independent media outlets like this one can be trusted. But to react now, let me bring in today's outsider, Lawrence Fox with the Fox Report. Lawrence, great to have you. So much to speak about. Big breaking news day. But given I've just covered it there, let's talk Manchester, because actually this doesn't happen too often between us. There was a bit of a disagreement in terms of that footage last week. You were disgusted by the police action. You thought it was heavy handed and that no sort of brutality can be excused. I just wonder, once you saw that Manchester Evening News footage, did you change your view at all?

Hi, Dan. And it's so lovely to be on your show again. No, I didn't. I haven't changed my mind. I think I may have something wrong with me because to me, what I see is I knew, obviously, I'd assumed that they'd done something terrible in the first place to have such heavy-handed treatment from the police as it was. But then they've released the first half of the footage all i saw was what i'd expected to be which was um i see a guy getting tasered uh falling on the ground and yes you could you could add a bit of nuance to the policeman's kick but i don't think two rights make a wrong and um i think we've got a very very serious problem with the police in this country uh in what they will and won't investigate and it felt to me like revenge for hair hills

uh and you know sort of leveling up of their problems that that had happened there and um you know i'm still of the same mind i think i think you do not kick unless you're happy for your own son to be kicked in that way or stamped on in that way, which I think is reprehensible. You're showing that footage now. It would take a great deal for me to to be able to sanction that baby from the police. So no, weirdly, I haven't changed my mind, but I think I'm just, you know, I'm wrong on this one, probably. That's what people say. But that's just my view. I love disagreeing with people. I think it's important. Well, and look, you have dealt in recent months with the heavy handed nature of the police. Of course, we do operate in a society of policing by consent.

But I guess for me, Lawrence, what the issue was about was the media and the political establishment being very dishonest because they didn't acknowledge at all what had happened beforehand. I mean, you've got Paul Waugh, the Labour MP, who's going to speak to the family of the men who attacked the police because that was the only part of the footage that had been released publicly. Well, what about the family of the female police officer who had her nose broken in that attack. Also, surely the Home Secretary, if there is a reason to defend the police, should defend the police. And in this case, all she had to say, Lawrence, was once you see the full footage, you'll understand that the police were attacked. That doesn't excuse police brutality. But this incident is being shown out of context.

Yeah, there's questions to be asked about why it was shown out of context and why it was released in the way it was. You know, a lot of people knew what it was. The Home Secretary is not on the side of the British public. The British public, and particularly the Christian British public, as we noticed, you know, some Anglo-Saxon kind of sunburned like me, white bloke. We're the enemies of the British establishment. And we will get on our knees and we will pander to any minority group,

however violent and aggressive as we've also seen today. And yeah, I mean, get ready for five years of this. This is going to be the most radically woke socialist experiment that we've seen. We saw it with Jacob Blake or Joseph Blake, I can't remember his name, you know, in America, when Biden went to his bedside, having he had digitally raped,

sorry to get disgusting about it, and then had tried to attack police with knives and he was shot and Biden went to his bedside. He didn't go to the police officer's bedside. He'd risked life and limb to do that. So we've got to be careful, but we can't go too far in the other direction and sit there and say it's OK for police to stomp on people's heads. It's just absolutely not. Of course it's not. But you look at the incident today in Southport, which we'll speak about shortly, where we do expect police to put their own life on the line.

They do it often, Lawrence. This is an airport context where they are armed. And so there is a genuine threat of terrorism. That is what they are trained for and I personally in this case don't believe when you see the footage beforehand that it justified any of the sort of reaction that we received and what I feel like is that there is a constant attempt by Labour to appease the extreme Muslim community in parts of the UK. We saw it after Hare Hills. We've now seen it here. And what they're doing is excusing appalling behaviour, which is actually, in the end, Lawrence, going to tear England apart if it hasn't already. Yeah, once we find out the name of the attacker, today's attacker in Stockport is being named. Southport. name of the attacker today's attacker in stockport is uh being uh named south and southport sorry

uh is being named and uh once once we know that we're going to find out exactly we're going to see what the metal of the british people are because if we are going to see the police chasing after those that try and expose this sort of appalling behavior within the extremist elements of the Muslim community. And they're going to chase those people down to the point where they're to leave the country or they're arrested on terrorism charges. We're going to see that,

but we're not going to see a guy who has been on a terror watch list, who arrived undocumented a year ago on a boat in their... Come in and have your free stuff. And he's gone and murdered a child. You're about to see the roar of the british lion and i and i absolutely would support that but i i i think that we've got

to be very very careful because the the problem is once the reaction comes which it is going to come once the reaction comes it will get out of control very very quickly there is so much anger i was there on saturday as you know you know doing the doing our march uh doing our celebration even of britain and i i cannot tell you in amongst all that joy and all that lovely and that celebration that why can't we just be together there is a simmering anger which um if people don't get a hold of is going to explode on this country and that and you know the politicians have been asking for it for decades. Indeed. And I want to talk about the march in just a moment.

But given you've raised Southport, let's go there. I am reading the same reports that you are. At this point, we haven't been able to confirm them. So I do want to be careful because I think we can give it a little bit more time, Lawrence, until we know for sure what has happened today. But the fact is, we are now becoming a country like the US with guns, where it is not safe for you to take your young children to a Taylor Swift dance session during the holidays and expect that you can bring them home safely.

I mean, regardless of who the perpetrator is, Lawrence, there is a serious problem with the breakdown of our society, isn't there? Yes, there is. And what's so bad about it is the apology, is the apologists, the Yvette Coopers, the Home Secretary. Her job is to protect the home. We pay her to protect us. That's what she's paid to do.

She's not a political appointee to sit there and talk about how we should all be more diverse and inclusive and allow more children to be stabbed and murdered. That's not her job. Her job is to make sure that this man never got anywhere near any children and and the previous government this just vile conservative government or conservative name only government that we had it's unbelievable that that we we haven't declared a national emergency about these people who are who. Undocumented, they're on a watch list. Why is he in this country if he's on an MI5 watch list, MI6 watch list? Why is he in the

country? If he's on a watch list, pick him up, stick him on a boat and send him back to where he came from. He has absolutely no place anywhere near a British child. No way. And what we're hearing, Lawrence, I mean, this is the worst sort of crime isn't it and as a parent I can only imagine what it does to your insides when you hear about this but let me take you through some of what we're learning so this was at a facility on Hart Street in Merseyside and it was 11.50am where the stabbing spree took place after this children's dance yoga and bracelet making workshop was themed around Taylor Swift. We're told Lawrence that mums arriving to pick up their children at the end of the workshop were greeted with a scene likened to something from a horror movie as injured children were carried out by emergency

workers. One man was seized with a knife. Paul Ryan Carney, who lives on the street, said he rushed home from work to be with her after she witnessed the terrible aftermath. He said she went out there and there was a woman who was screaming, saying she can't find her child. They let her into the cordon and she ran down and all she could hear was screaming and crying, saying, that's my child, that's my child. There are thought to have been around 25 children,

aged between 6 and 11, taking part in the workshop and onlookers say that they saw a man in a black hood arrive in a taxi with a knife before people were left on the street screaming and in tears just a horror scene you you have to just pray for that family i mean what unbelievable um someone did that to my if someone did that to my child i would you know it's so difficult because you're you're it makes you so emotional because you i have kids you know and um i see carl benjamin has been saying that uh people that kill children should be hung you know i don't i just i don't know what what more we have to do as a country to turn around and say you were making it unsafe for our for our own children to go and do something

really happy you know they left the house that morning going to celebrate and do something that they really loved and they've come home traumatized for life and one of them is dead and this man and you i knew immediately and we all knew immediately the minute they say a man and we never get a description of anyone we all knew what was going on and i am sick to death of people not putting um this front and center of what is wrong with this country. Every single time you ask people in this country, what is your main concern is uncontrolled immigration. And you have people in boats throwing their identity documents over the side so they can come and get some freebies and one or two of them or 10 or 50 of them, or we don't even know how many now because we've had so many undocumented migrants come to this country with no history or no nothing.

We don't even know. We could have terrorist cells coming this way. Shut the border. Close it. I think what you're referring to is a post on LinkedIn. Now, again, I have not been able to independently verify this post, but I have spoken to people who are trying to do so at the moment and believe that it could be true. It's by someone who calls himself Eddie Murray, and he posted on LinkedIn. My two youngest children went to Holiday Club this morning in Southport for a day of fun, only for a migrant to enter and murder fatally wound multiple children my kids are fine they are shot and in hysterics but they are safe my thoughts with the other 30 kids and family that are suffering right now if there's any time to close the borders

completely it's right now enough is enough but I will stress Lawrence that is not yet a verified linkedin post yeah we have i mean also we we one has to be moderate one has to this is the thing you but you expect your politicians to be moderate you expect them to turn around and say if this is somebody who is coming to this country if and that's an if if this is somebody who's coming to this country and was on a terror watch list we will find out exactly what the processes are that led for this uh to take place this brutal attack take place and we will stop at nothing to make sure it never happens again that's what i expect to the people that i sign off every year a tax bill for i don't sign off to be told that diversity is our strength that's not what i signed that's not what i pay taxes for i do not't sign off to be told that diversity is our strength. That's not what I sign, that's not what I pay taxes for. I do not pay to be told that I've got to sort of apologise for

being white or apologise for being Christian or shush if we're going to arrest you if you pray outside an abortion clinic. I pay my taxes so that other people's children do not get stabbed and murdered by immigrants. That's what I pay my taxes for. And Lawrence, meanwhile, the invasion via the southern border continues. I mean, no one's talking about it, Lawrence, but I'll bring you the stats. On Saturday, 370 illegals entered via the channel. 255 yesterday. Reform UK MP Rupert Lowe says they were

overwhelmingly unchecked young males. The vast majority of these people are not asylum seekers. They are illegal migrants. We should be accurate and honest with our language. It is an invasion, he says. And by the way, Lawrence, they're just the people coming via the channel what isn't being spoken about is the huge number of illegals that are now being transported via truck absolutely it we there is no other sometimes you've got to look at a situation and you've got to say why do they have the borders open why do they um allow people in with no background checks why did they do this and ultimately you have to come to the the occam's razor solution to that problem they want it they want our country to be

invaded they want i understand that the british people are not replacing the population so they're going to allow us to be invaded and we are going to be the westernmost point of the new Islamic caliphate, which is spreading across Europe. Other European countries are actually doing something about it. We are not doing anything about it. And for those that turn around and say Islamophobia, Islamophobia, I'm not Islamophobic. I'm Islamahating. I do not like Islam. I really dislike Islam.

Individual Muslims, I am very, very compassionate and I show love and respect to because they're human beings but the ideology they follow is a death cult and we should start calling it out and until we start calling it out instead of a vet keeper standing there with a little sticker going refugees welcome you're not welcome there's no public services here for us so and and certainly murderous thugs are not welcome here either. And if that's Islamophobic, then stick that on the list of other things that I am, because I am absolutely, abjectly against Islam as an ideology.

I think it's the most death cultish, nasty ideology that has ever been imposed on the Western world. And we are defenseless against it because it's far too tolerant. And we need to turn around and say this thing is an existential threat to the west it's not just you know it's not just wokery and all that sort of stuff we've got to deal with we've got a a group of people a a sizable minority of a group of people as you know the 28 that supported or had sympathy for the charlie hedo attacks. These people want us dead or converted. And until we start saying this is a major problem, chaps, and stop appeasing, appeasing, appeasing like Yvette Cooper does and all the Labour government do, you're going to find more dead children,

you're going to find more dead people, you're going to find more communities on fire. So we need a strong person to come in and deal with it. Not in a prejudicial way just in a way where they turn up and go sorry this is england we have law and order here we don't set fire to things we don't kill children either indeed and lawrence we should be talking about today what was an incredible event on saturday uniting the kingdom, you alongside Tommy Robinson and thousands of patriots. There was no trouble despite Sly News branding it a far-right protest and assigning their crime correspondent Martin Brunt to cover the event, clearly desperate that

it was all going to go wrong. And I do want to talk about that, Lawrence. But first, Tommy Robinson, hours after this march, arrested, he says charged. So we need to be careful because of the draconian laws in this country, which limit freedom of speech when it comes to this sort of thing. But under the auspices of the 2000 terrorism act so have you been able to speak to tommy do you know what happened and was it connected to the march i've spoken to uh lots of people tommy had his phone taken away um so you know as per and that all of the information that i have uh is also available online but um the thing is about this with tommy is he's not a terrorist he's trying to expose exactly the sort of people

that did what happened in southport that's what he's trying to do and he is being treated he said to me i am worried that they're going to jail me and I'm never going to come out. And I have to say, I know as you raised at the beginning of this interview, I have had encounters with the police and the judiciary in the last few years. I've been up close and personal with them. If you think there's a fair and justices blind legal system in this country, you're a mug.

These people are spending their time going after a guy who has got 75 000 people in trafalgar square to give each other a hug and say we love our country and it's not horrible to hate your flag and he has suffered for decades under the under the boot of the regime that calls itself a liberal democratic elected government. Tommy Robinson will go down in history as a hero because at the end of the day, he's one of the only people I've ever met in this game who doesn't have a massive ego. And if he does, he will put it aside so that everyone can be heard. And it's the most important movement that this country has started. And they are stamping on his neck

because you see those crowds of people, those 75,000 people, they're trying to say, if you step out of line, we're gonna stamp on your neck too. And I would encourage the British people to take a very, very long hard look in the mirror and go, what sort of country are we living in? What sort of country are we living in

where they go after Tommy Robinson. I spent three hours down the police station last week. They wanted to investigate me. What over? Over the march? No, no, no. Over Narendra's knickers. I see.

So you've now been questioned by the police. So this was Narendra Kerr who accused you of revenge porn because you posted a paparazzi picture of her taken in the past. Is that right? Yeah, and they're two senior detectives. Senior detectives. So these are people that should be on the street finding people like this guy

who's just stabbed a bunch of people in Southport. Two senior detectives ascribed to some narcissistic little woman who can't be bothered or remember or pay or you worked in the media dan you know how this works they uh little unfamous people give paparazzos money and they let them get a shot of them and for me to be the criminal in that situation just go show upside down we are and they're only getting me because I'm a white, straight male. What are they investigating you over? What's the crime?

They're not anymore because I just sat in the room. I put on a pair of sunglasses and I sat in the room and said, have you got anything to do with the guy? Really, genuinely. And he said, well, you know, we've got to do it because, you know, it's you and you're quite well known, so we've got to be careful. And I'm like, but I tell you, the policeman said, well, you know, we've got to do it because, you know, it's you and you're quite well known, so we've got to be careful. And I'm like, but I tell you, the policeman said to me, this is not militia of the woke narcissists like narinda core who can't be bothered or doesn't remember when to put her pants on you know and then sits there and starts talking

it says everything's racist on our own former tv channel she sits there and it's just racist all the time and and it's just like we are people white you know, all different colours and sexual orientations are sick to death of this. They are pushing us so far now to limit. And if you've got a dead child and you've got Lawrence Fox being investigated because he shared a picture a paparazzo took and took two cops, two senior detectives off the street, you've got to turn around and say, this is absolutely upside down, out of hand. And Lawrence, one of the big issues in the UK is the mainstream media. But thank God that we are now fighting back with our own independent platforms.

There's obviously this one. You've launched Fox and Father via Reclaim the Media. But I think especially when it comes to Tommy Robinson, isn't it fascinating to see the complete different coverage he's provided by massive names in the American media? I mean, I was listening to his interview yesterday with Jordan Peterson via The Daily Wire, which, let's be honest, is a mainstream independent outlet. It's certainly not on the fringes of The Daily Wire. It's had nearly two million views on YouTube, yet he is almost completely banned by the British mainstream media, who either choose to black him out and pretend

that it's not going on whatsoever, or cover him in the ridiculous, ludicrous fashion that we've seen today. Tommy Robinson flees the country after arrest. No, he's going on a pre-planned holiday with his family. I wouldn't blame him if he did leave the country. Also, I spoke to Jordan Peterson at length yesterday about Tommy. And he was very, very wise, as he always is. And he said they are overreaching so badly because they're losing. So they're overreaching so badly so just be patient be calm be patient don't let people you know get the emotion i have now thinking about a dead child you've got to sleep on it and come back but this movement that is coming at the woke at the people that are allowing our country to be invaded by an ideology of death, this movement is growing exponentially. And it is by people

like you and me, and those that have been cancelled for being fairly legitimate voices, being cancelled even by those that call themselves a home of free speech, haha, funny, funny, is that it's people like us that are going to lead the media charge for this, and we're going to document it. And they're going to they're losing and and you know i knew that the gb news was a farce when they refused to have tommy robinson on the guy if you because you tried didn't you you tried multiple times to get him on and you're not allowed it's like you and i think calvin robinson tried as well and katie hopkins too yeah but i had all i wanted all of them. But if you insist the Ofcom thing and you insist and you go,

right, we're going to have two, both sides of the story, which is pathetic because that means you get a Narendra core, but that's the rules, fine. Okay, well, let me have Tommy Robinson then. If you're going to have Narendra core, you know, the woman is not the sharpest knife in the world. But the thing is, there's only ever one rule for us, Lawrence, because look at Sly News with their coverage of the marches at the weekend.

They didn't ever describe the Jeremy Corbyn rival march as far left. And he's an actual proven anti-Semite. So come on. We know that there's one rule for you, one rule for everyone else. But look, we've got to have some hope. And I think the hope is that we are turning away from the mainstream media who want to demonize Tommy Robinson, who don't want to tell the truth about what happened at the march over the weekend, who was so desperate for trouble that didn't come. And we've got to have that hope because we've seen the media revolution happen in the US. It's made a huge change to politics in that country. And hopefully we can do the same thing here. 100%. Look at what happened.

I used to be very good friends with a very, very famous senior presenter on the BBC who stopped talking to me once I said the vaccine thing seems a bit of a... And he said to me, you can never, ever be fired from the BBC. It's impossible to be fired from the BBC, almost. I can't remember. He gave me one thing that you could get fired from. And look at what's happened. Look at what's happened.

The BBC, and I'm not casting any aspersions about the allegations and the charges made about the individual, but I'm just turning around i'm going what sort of media culture do you want to live in where you're never going to get fired you're never going to get fired you can do anything wrong and you'll never get fired but they'll fire you and they'll fire me and they'll fire calvin for just being normal people having a good old chat just like everyone else outside that window is having in this world. And the days of the mainstream media dominating our narratives

and the way that we speak are over. They're dying. They know they're dying. And they're pushing it so hard in these final breaths. Well, thank God for that. Lawrence Fox, we're back with The Fox Report. So good to have you. And we will speak very soon.

And of course, Fox and Father airs on the Reclaim, the media YouTube channel every Thursday. And Calvin Robinson's here on Wednesdays as well. Thank you so much, Lawrence. Love you. Sue Cook, a true BBC legend, is coming up in just one moment. First, though, what's so important about being independent is that I will only ever tell you about products that I use and truly believe in. And that's why I'm delighted today to tell you about Verso. It's an amazing product.

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Sue Cook, my friend, goodness me, you were at the BBC, Sue, in the days that we used to trust what was on the BBC, on the days where we used to trust the mainstream media. And obviously we came into contact initially during COVID when we were both so horrified about the change that we'd seen in the media and the BBC. But it just seems, as Lawrence was just saying there, so it just seems to get worse by the day. Yes, it's such a shock and so sad. And a lot of me still doesn't really want to believe

it. But yes, when I was on the BBC, we investigated everything. We challenged everything. We particularly challenged whatever the colour of the government of the day was. We campaigned for people who were having injustices done to them. And the BBC was behind us. It backed us all

the way. And then suddenly, I don't really understand i think the rot began in the mid 80s when suddenly um viewing figures was much more important than the actual um breadth and depth of the content it was more you know trying to get more viewers it was trying to get more more um more money it was trying to get younger people and as soon as you start trying not to be what you are and what's been successful a bit like radio too it was trying to get younger people and as soon as you start trying not to be what you are and what's been successful a bit like radio 2 was working so well they've fired everybody now and it's not um but it it's um it's very sad because we do need i feel a public broadcaster

that you can absolutely trust who to answer to represent you and ask the questions you want answered and to champion you when you're being done an injustice to or being done down in some way and I feel that's probably gone and I don't know whether it'll ever come back. I don't think so Sue and it's particularly difficult for the BBC when you think about what happened with Jimmy Savile, you think about what happened with the cover-up over the Martin Beshear interview with Princess Diana on Panorama. And of course, potentially, the news scandal. And you know, I'm very much a huge believer in innocent before proven guilty. And there is still a lot of this process to play out. But the news just today that Hugh Edwards, their main news presenter who announced the death of the Queen on air,

has been charged with child pornography offences and is actually going to be in court on Wednesday morning. I mean, I think what we can say, Sue, is this is a nightmare for BBC News bosses. It's bitterly disappointing as well. And why has it taken so long? I think for everybody it would have been much healthier. It's been a whole as well, you know, and why has it taken so long? I think for everybody it would have been much healthier. It's been a whole year now, this. And also, why did they pay him full pay?

I mean, £450,000 since all this happened last year. That seems to be to be wrong. But I feel it's a very sad situation. I feel, you know, still my instincts, I feel a little bit sorry for him. I don't know what's happened or what the truth of it is, what the story is. We'll find out once he's in court. But it's very sad, very sad. Now, Sue, breaking right now, this is just in,

a 17-year-old boy has been arrested over the Southport knife rampage. This is according to a report in the Daily Mail. He reportedly arrived by taxi to coincide with parents picking up their children from a Taylor Swift themed workshop this morning. Now Merseyside police have now issued a statement. This is just in. They say they are still trying to establish the motive for what they describe as a quote tragic incident they add we would urge people not to speculate while the investigation is ongoing but they do say sue that the incident is not being treated as terror related so a 17 year old yes absolutely you can only try and hazard a guess as to what

on earth went on and why why you know why the group of kids on our holiday club day you know having having a lovely morning out and i i can't understand it i've just never given this i don't yeah they say it's not terror-related which I suppose is good. They say he came from not very far away. He came from Bank I think I read, that thing you just read. I just saw it just before I came on air. So we'll just have to see what happens next. What does it

amaze me is the scale of the operation. The number of police and ambulances and police cars and unmarked police cars. What an immense, I've never seen a police operation, I don't think, in this country on such a scale. I was wondering why, I mean, obviously it's the most ghastly thing

ever to have happened. I wondered why they, what are they all doing? I got fascinated by the roles all those different officers and people had. Yeah, it's such a difficult one, isn't it? Because I'm just looking at some of the reaction to this police statement and Sue, there's now huge scepticism out there, which I understand. James Sutherland, who's a young supporter of Reform UK,

has just posted on X, oh, here we go, right on cue, not being treated as terror-related. If stabbing eight small children isn't a terrorisation, what is? Merseyside Police, give us a name and a profile. It's been four hours and people deserve to know the full details. And I struggle not to agree with that, Sue. Double A, we're sceptical about absolutely everything now. Ever since all that COVID stuff, we now don't believe anything

we're told straight away. We have to, you know, everything's, you know, open question. Do we believe it? Do we not? But I think when they say terror-related, obviously what they mean is some kind of religious fundamentalism, some kind of activist group. And I think probably it sounds at the moment

as though that's not what it was. So that's what they mean. I know terrorising, yes, definitely. But terror in that sense, I don't think it was. Yeah, indeed. Oh, goodness me, we will definitely see. And then, Sue, of course, up until this terrible incident today and the breaking news about Hugh Edwards, what everyone was talking about, including me, was the shocking footage showing the start of the incident at Manchester Airport, which we hadn't seen until Saturday night. Well, this is what we had seen, actually. So this was the footage that was first released, Sue, that obviously showed the end of the incident. And it was very quickly

used to almost try and create some sort of race war on the streets of Manchester. You had Black Lives Matter protesting. You had hooded thugs throwing eggs at Rochdale police station. But then, Saturday night, Manchester Evening News, they release CCTV footage. I do not know how it was leaked and why it could not have been released earlier, but CCTV footage showing the start of the incident, which, just as I predicted, paints a completely different complexion of matters. And actually, I think there should be huge sympathy for the police here. Now, Sue, when you were doing Crimewatch, obviously this was part of your job, having to piece together what evidence was out there. What can we show? How can we give a fair portrayal of the events

and the potential crimes that we're talking about. But Sue, once you saw this footage, I think it became really irresponsible the way that Paul War, the Labour MP, the Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, most of the mainstream media were immediately blaming the police. And they didn't seem to reference the fact that actually one of these police officers, there she is, she just went down to the ground there,

she had her nose broken, Sue, in that earlier altercation. I think the voice of reason throughout that, right from the start, was Andy Burnham, Manchester's mayor, who said, this is obviously, something's led up to this. And what we need to do is wait and see what we can establish the facts. I'm fascinated to know, think as lawrence hinted as well when you've got who who's filming that particular piece that particular clip and and release that um and no and none of the lead up to it must whoever filmed that bit must have filmed

the rest of it as well but obviously they just released that bit for a particular reason, to try and maybe ferment... A particular view, I think we can say. Possibly. But obviously something really bad had happened before. We're in the airport, a high security, high risk area. Of course, police are going to be heavy handed. But I think I'm not sure about the stamping on the head bit either if you look very carefully i was a kicking head that was when i first saw that it was really shocking um i think he stamps to the side of his head but i'm not entirely sure about that but i think

interesting um he seems to stamp on his ear maybe but i just I've looked at it a few times and I'm not sure. But I think that was going too far. Whatever, however provoked you've been, however violent the guys have been, I don't think it was right to go that far if he stamped on his head. And the thing is, look, we do not want to encourage any form of police brutality in the United Kingdom. I think we can all agree on that. But all I would say, Sue, is how would we feel if these police officers at Manchester airport had been trying to stop a potential terror attack, for example, they may have had to use that sort of force. And when our police are literally being beaten black and blue, ending up in hospital, then there does have to be some sort of response.

And I think the problem was is that in this day and age, what happens is you get a very small part of the picture via social media. So quickly there is a rush to judgment. And what that means is that it's virtually impossible for someone to sometimes clear their name. And I feel like the poor police officer in this case has had his career almost ruined. I mean, why on earth would he ever want to go back to the job? And personally, I feel that's unfair

because when you look at it all in context, I think actually his actions were justified i don't know what they were justified to be honest they were nearly justified but um it isn't justified he was tasered the guy was now helpless um and you once i i was reading once the barbs from the taser are in the body then you can keep um renewing stun. So you would think he would have done everything right as long as he hadn't put his foot on his head. That's where you feel like he crossed the line. He was so angry and he saw red

and that was just one bit too far, I think. Indeed. Although we should point out in the US, it's highly likely those men would have been shot not saying that's right but we don't know what we've got i like this i don't know the facts but it would be really interesting if they eventually come out come tonight now look sue i did want to speak to you a little bit about the BBC because Mel Sykes, who was up until recently a big presenter on BBC Radio 2, has revealed some really shocking information about the fact that BBC executives still working at the corporation refer to their viewers as the great unwashed.

I'll get you to watch this and react off the back. I've heard people in power at the BBC talk about the audience as the great unwashed. That's how much they respect you, which is zero. Turn out shit for people they don't give a f*** about. And if they think they're making fantastic television, they're deluded. And remember, they do their own programmes to big themselves up, to give themselves awards for what they do as well. So it's patting their own back generating the money and they're happy but you're left feeling like you've been entertained are you kidding me i i mean firstly love her love the honesty but so how appalling if these stuck up snobs are describing BBC viewers.

By the way, we all have to pay for them as the great unwashed. It's our BBC, isn't it? But all I would say is that every institution, including the BBC, is made up of a mixture of individuals. And in every institution, there will be individuals in that institution who are less than desirable, you know, who say less than desirable things, who have policies that don't go along with the mainstream, who behave badly. So I don't know what Mel Sykes' actual experience is. I'd like to know a little bit more about it. Who was it who said this and in what circumstances? But she's obviously, you know, come against the wrong side of somebody there i mean one does i've um in my past you know a couple of there's one producer in particular just i didn't we just didn't get on with each

other we just didn't like each other from the start and it didn't end well i'm afraid but you know it happens we're all people individuals individuals, all characters and these things happen. And what do you make of this investigation, Sue, into Strictly Come Dancing? We're learning that the results are going to be announced as soon as this week, possibly today. I mean, actually, if I was being really cynical, Sue, the BBC should actually release the results right now because it would be completely overshadowed by the news that Hugh Grant has been charged. But sorry, Hugh Edwards has been charged. Just to be very clear there, Hugh Edwards has been charged. But if you look there, you've got Amanda Abington and Gio Panice.

She's broken down on Channel 4 News, but the previous pictures show them all getting along. So how do you feel about this Strictly Come Dancing thing do you worry that actually we're now starting to become such snowflakes that someone like Gio can't even be a little bit tough in the rehearsals for what is you know pretty difficult show isn't it they all want to win well I suppose I ought to support the sisterhood, but I will say that dancing is the most rigorous discipline you can possibly think of. I mean, I've filmed the Royal Ballet, for example, and the pain they go through, the discipline, the commitment, which obviously you can see people who are strictly calm dancing are having to go through weeks and weeks of really really hard graft and I think probably they all want to have the most make the most amazing performance they all want to win

so I can imagine that things can get a bit fraught and that the teacher the training dancer the professional dancer can be a bit you know a bit extra vociferous. But I don't know. It's only a dancing show. Yeah, that's the thing. Don't take it so seriously, the whole thing. I've never actually understood the people who get so worked up about Strictly Come Dancing and they treat it like it's the end of the world.

It's not. It's meant to be a bit of fun. But I also think this investigation is sort of going too far because giovanni is feeling like he's losing his whole career the other guy who's been sat granciano uh who i always actually thought was very nice guy during my experience with him when i met him apparently he's really suffering with his mental health. And it's like, come on, it's not worth that. It is not worth that. Give the guy a break. Sue, I have to talk to you about the Olympic opening ceremony. My goodness, I watched this

on Friday night with increasing horror, not just because of the terrible weather, but because as you can see there, the organisers decided, let's try and mock Christianity and do this very woke version of the Last Supper. And for me, Sue, how I felt about it actually is that if London 2012 represented the peak of Europe's post-war period, because let's be honest, it was amazing. That Danny Boyle opening ceremony in London, it was great. It was a little bit lefty, but it certainly wasn't woke and it didn't have any of this type of madness, even though it was very inclusive. So I feel like if London 2012 represented the peak of Europe post-war, Paris 2024 was illustrative of its total decline. It was a bit bonkers, wasn't it? Pouring with rain and couldn't help thinking the wonderful show we put on. I think it was one of the high points in British life ever with the 2012 Olympics and Danny Boyle's production there.

Big time. I was a bit shocked to see all the bearded ladies. It just seemed not so much shocked about bearded ladies, but it seemed to be an odd theme for the Olympics. I didn't really understand the connection there. No, it was rubbish. I thought the tableau with the Da Vinci Last Supper kind of mimic was actually quite witty in a way. That's just as a tableau with the Da Vinci Last Supper kind of mimic. It was actually quite witty in a way.

But that's just as a tableau. But I thought basically, I thought the whole thing was pretty bonkers. It was rubbish. Celine Dion, who was amazing. Yeah, exactly. And we will not have a bad word said against Celine. That was

the one part that I was waiting for. But she couldn't rescue the whole Celine. That was the one part that I was waiting for, but she couldn't rescue the whole thing. What was interesting to me, of course, Sue, is they'd never mock a religion like Islam, for example. So what's happened is that the organiser of Paris 2024 has now had to, because they're suffering from a serious commercial pushback in the US in particular, or advertising are pulling their commercial spots from the coverage, they've had to issue a groveling apology. To show disrespect to any religious group. On the contrary, I think that Major Nii really tried to

really intend to celebrate community tolerance. That was his word yesterday and uh looking at the result of the polls that we shared we believe that this ambition was uh was achieved if people have taken any offense we are of course really really sorry and there have been religious protests at the eiffel tower watch this religious protests at the Eiffel Tower. Watch this. This just wasn't what Macron needed, was it, Sue? It wasn't, was it? But how many wars in the world, in the world's history, has been started because religions take themselves so seriously that they want to commit crimes against other people

who don't believe what they believe? Yeah, totally. I do agree with that. What I would also say, though, is that when the French magazine, satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, decided to mock Mohammed, their editors and reporters were shot to death. So I would rather have Christians protesting peacefully in that way. It's quite a good way, I think, to show their disdain, I would argue. And that poor teacher who still, because he showed a picture of a Muslim

in class, he still can't show himself, can he? Absolutely. But then you've got wokery seeming to infuse every part of our national life, including at the Olympics, not just the opening ceremony. We've now had the Eurosport commentator, Bob Ballard. He was commentating the swimming. Have you heard of him, Sue? Have you come across him?

I have heard of him, yes. I've forgotten what he looked like. I know now because I've seen the stories. But all he said was something like, oh, typical women, they're hanging around doing their makeup or something, didn't he? Something like that. So he made a joke and he's now been axed

for it but i've actually got it so i can show you what he said watch this well the women just finishing off you know what women are like hanging around you know doing the makeup oh here you just some of the men are doing that as well Now, come on, he's lost his job, Sue. Ridiculous. I've sent the guy home. Ridiculous. Crazy. I mean, words fail me. I think it's a joke.

And maybe it wasn't in the best possible taste, but it wasn't in the worst possible taste either. So, for goodness sake, we've made a big deal. No, and the problem is, don't you think as broadcasters now in the mainstream media, especially look at what happened to Lawrence Fox, look at what happened to me, look at what happened to Albi Amankona at GB News, the latest sack. People are going to be terrified to say anything. He was making a lighthearted joke.

His female commentator was able to respond in an appropriate manner and say, oh, that's outrageous, Bob. Have a giggle about it. Move on. He's lost his job. I just find it so ridiculous and over the top and hysterical. I think what gets me down more than anything right now is the fear that we're all under all the time. It's so terrifying to say something that's going to offend somebody. You can't even say, I'm stroking, isn't this a pretty cat that I'm stroking? Because somebody will write in and say, how dare you stroke a cat? You know, you might get, you'll be passing on disease. You cannot say the most innocent thing on social media without somebody weighing in and saying something really unpleasant.

Or, you know, so all we want to do now is just keep quiet. Everybody feels, you know, unless you're really sure of the company you're in, you kind of sit there quietly and thinking, and not say anything that you think might be controversial. Exactly. People have been forced into a tyranny of silence, and it is really terrifying. And actually, Sue, that's the perfect place

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