Dan Wootton Outspoken - CLAIMS POLICE CAUSED HENRY NOWAK RIOT VIOLENCE AS KEIR STARMER THREATENS PATRIOTS & NIGEL FARAGE

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Slippery Starmer – Britain’s treacherous Prime Minister – launches a shocking attack on British patriots protesting about the murder of Henry Nowak, threatening them with the... full force of the law, rather than the police and the Sikh family who remain unpunished for the death of the Essex teenager. So what really happened in Southampton last night, as protestors attempted to host a vigil outside the Digwa family home with Henry was murdered, amid claims the police stoked violence. The MSM and political class are determined to target Nigel Farage over his call for pure cold rage, but the Reform UK leader is threatening the BBC after Newsnight goblin Matt Chorley tried to racialise his comments. We’ll get into it all after Dan’s Digest with our Superstar Panel: Activist Kellie Jay Keen, who attended the protests last night, UKIP leader Nick Tenconi, who spoke outside the police station, and ex-police constable and author of the brilliant Strategic Affairs Substack Henry Bolton. PLUS: Rupert Lowe threatens legal action against the BBC as Restore Britain is BANNED from its Makerfield by-election Question Time special. AND: Advance UK folds as a political party as its leader Ben Habib backs Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain. He’ll join us live for an exclusive interview. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle renews her feud with Catherine, the Princess of Wales, by backing an internet troll who campaigns against the future queen. Royal YouTube sensation According2Taz joins us to reveal all. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:09 launches a shocking attack on British patriots protesting about the murder of Henry Novak, threatening them with the full force of law rather than the police and the Sikh family who remain unpunished for the death of the Essex teenager. And let me be clear, we will ensure anyone found engaging in disorder meets the full force of the law as we have done before. Nothing. French the Hill, nothing. So he's a bit off of all, that's been fucking off of the red back, yeah?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Nothing, stop. So what really happened in Southampton last night as protesters attempted to host a vigil outside the Digua family home where Henry was murdered? I'm going to show you what the MSM won't. But what the mainstream media and political class are determined to do is target 9000 Nigel Farage over his call for pure cold rage.
Starting point is 00:02:42 But now the Reform UK leader is threatening to sue the BBC after that Newsnight Goblin Matt surely tried to racialise his comments. But I suggest the rest of us respond to this with pure cold rage. Nigel Farage has said in response to this, we should respond to this with white cold rage. And what is the risk if more people follow Nigel Farage's appeal for white cold rate? There is rage and there should be rage. We're not necessarily neglected and forgotten, but we're abused as working class white people. And that's what Henry was.
Starting point is 00:03:25 The wrong colour, so he was handcuffed. Police didn't care. That is institutional racism. If this was a young black man, the whole country would be on fire. There'd be Macpherson reports. It's been independent inquiry. Those people in there are your enemy. They're not your friend.
Starting point is 00:03:41 At least the true enemies of this country, like sly news, are exposing themselves as anti-white hypocrites. Are you happy with him using that phrase? Kathy, what Nigel Farage said today was that white lives matter as much as black lives. Do you disagree with that statement? You seem to be conducting an interview with me, but I'm trying to ask you the questions, if I may,
Starting point is 00:04:04 Because you're the politician. Well, firstly, I'm correcting, with respect, Kathy, I'm correcting you on this, because to leave out the second half of the sentence, I think he's deliberately misrepresentative and misleading. We'll get into it all after the digest with our superstar panel. The activist Kelly J. Keene. She was at those Southampton protests last night. UKIP leader Nick Tenconi, we carried his speech outside the police station live here on outspoken.
Starting point is 00:04:33 and the ex-police constable, former diplomat and author of the brilliant Strategic Affairs Substack Henry Bolton. Also coming up on today's show, Rupert Lowe threatens legal action against the BBC as Restore Britain is banned from its Makerfield by-election question time special. Advance UK folds as a political party as its leader Ben Habib backs Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain. Ben Habib is going to join us live for an exclusive interview later in the show. And Reform UK's teenage mayor humiliates hard leftist Marina Perkest during an extraordinary live TV confrontation on Jeremy Vine. Then we're moving over to Substack for the Royal Uncanceled After Show.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Big one today because Megan Markle has just renewed her feud with Catherine the Princess of Wales, according to Taz. We'll be here for all of that. We'll also unveil a new Greatest Britain and Junie in Jackass at the end of the show. you can vote on the worst Britain in the world today right now in the live chat on substack. Nick Tenconi has nominated Olivia Pinckney. He says she is a massive jackass as she implemented Alison Hederi's Race Action Plan at Hampshire Constabulary, a plan created due to the death of George Floyd to fight racism. Kelly J Keene has nominated Slippery Stama for saying there is no two-tier police.
Starting point is 00:05:59 and Henry Bolton has nominated Pat McFadden for telling Peter Mandelson, every meeting I have is who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others, both for not doing anything about it and for telling someone like Mandelson. So a big show ahead, lots of breaking news, big superstar panel. Do keep your super chats coming in during the show too. I'll read out the best at the end today. But now, let's go. The elite class in MSN response to Henry Novak's anti-white slaughter.
Starting point is 00:06:33 has been as despicable as it was predictable. Rather than talk about how this young man, and I don't know if you've seen this footage, it's previously unseen home video that Henry sister shared, and if you're like me, it will just completely break your heart. And rather than talk about how this young man Henry was murdered, thanks to a system designed to prioritize so-called racism over the protection by authorities of the native population,
Starting point is 00:07:07 the conversation has moved to the natural and understandable anger from the native population as a result. It's called diversion. And indeed, Slippery Stama was back to his happy place in Parliament today, condemning the Patriots in Southampton rather than the Sikh family and cops involved in. in Henry's death. Watch. Matter the pain we feel.
Starting point is 00:07:35 There is no justification for more violence and disorder. The attacks directed towards police officers in Southampton last night were disgraceful and completely unacceptable. This is a time for serious work, not rage. And let me be clear, we will ensure anyone found engaging in disorder meets the the full force of the law, as we have done before. Stama then invoked Henry's family. And this is what the left are doing, like the Daily Mail's Labour columnist Dan Hodges, who supports a blanket ban on any discussion around this tragedy,
Starting point is 00:08:16 arguing a number of people asking me to comment on the Henry Novak case. His father said, we do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension. If you can't respect his wishes, you're scum. That's what I think. But as the techno-populist responded classic Hodges, but it is a trick used by many left-wing journalists. Whenever a flashpoint event involves a white victim, their first instinct is to depoliticize it. Don't look back at anger. Move along.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Indeed, it's also a misrepresentation of the Novak situation, however, with the Independent Southampton Times, revealing that some of Henry Novak's friends were at last night's protest in Southampton confirming his family were watching the live stream from home. Don't believe Kyr Stama. So what happened at the so-called riots last night, which the MSM want to, along with Nigel Farage's statements, turn into the story because it's much easier, isn't it, to focus on Tommy Robinson,
Starting point is 00:09:16 who argued on the way to the police station. Since the start of the Henry Novak case, I've watched people focus on everything except the real issue. A young lad was stabbed, handcuffed while bleeding and treated like the suspect. Now there's a growing public backlash and people are asking serious questions about police training, priorities and institutional bias.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Henry could have been your son. He could have been my son. And yes, Tommy is angry. They're all trained to hate white people, to look for white privilege. Does Henry fucking know it look like he had white privilege when he's laying on that floor? There's only one privilege,
Starting point is 00:09:56 and that was for the brown person. And that is continuous. every single aspect of this institution. They're favoured in school education. Look at school education. White working class kids are failing. They're at the bottom. All the other migrant groups are excelling and doing better.
Starting point is 00:10:10 They have all the support, all the money, all the funding. We're not neglected and forgotten, but we're abused as working class white people. And that's what Henry was. The wrong colour, so he was handcuffed. Police didn't care. That is institutional racism. Also angry is Lawrence Fox, who described the police as the enemy. I was going to say, what's the main reason you're out here today?
Starting point is 00:10:31 What should we do about all of this? Because it's the most disgusting thing I've ever witnessed in the world. If this was a young black man, the whole country would be on fire. There'd be Macpherson reports. There'd be inevitably wary. Those people in there are your enemy. They're not your friend. And I mean, the scene last night was extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It shows how much Britain has changed. Because it was actually the white protesters, chanting racist police off our streets. Racist police off our streets. Racist police off our streets. Racial police off our streets. Racist police off our streets. Racist police of our streets.
Starting point is 00:11:15 The protest itself was powerful and peaceful with speeches from both Tommy, Lawrence and UKIP leader Nick Tenconi. They are complete. in the murder of a young boy only because he was white. And the only reason, your raging off theory is completely justified. The arresting officers who handcuffed, demonised, patronised, vilified, and a dying 18-year-old, no doubt, bleeding out, gasping for air,
Starting point is 00:11:50 begging for help, must now be named, placed under arrest, and a total and complete thorough investigation. begins into the motivations behind their behaviour. This is about race. He was crowded because he was right. He was hampered. Genoa the murderer, he didn't get handcuffed. Even after they found out he'd stabbed him third times,
Starting point is 00:12:15 he still didn't get fucking handcuffed. And remember, just hours before that protest, Deguwa's father and brother, who are still walking free, smirked upon entering court. So I repeat, it is no surprise that there was indignant anger. The police refused to take the knee for Henry Novak, despite taking the knee for George Floyd during those London BLM protests in 2020 watch.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Shame, didn't it? I'm not a bad now where people do stuff like this are you? Disgusting. It's disgusting. You all, see how you all study off. Sit the need and pay your respect for Hemra. Your officers assisted in that man's death. I've drawn four and a half hours to get you. Often people have me.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We're fucking tired. You and every police officer in the force. Your left ideology is war and he's ruining the country. We're sicker it. It's disgusting. And all you do is just stand there. You just stand there. You're horrible.
Starting point is 00:13:28 You're right. You don't care. Look at all of these people what have come to show their respect for Henra. To the independent officer police conduct. That don't mean shit. That don't mean nothing to us. He'll get off waiting two free week. Sweep it under the carpet like Labour government always do.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Case arm is should have been gone by now. You don't care. It brushes it all off. Muppets, mate. What are you going to do? To a merecalf and kill me, yeah? What are you going to do, yeah? They won't do me.
Starting point is 00:14:04 They won't do me. You're not going to be a, scumbag, me. Scumbank. That's what you want. Scumman. The whole hamcy of peace was. There he is, Lord. But here's what you're not going to hear in the mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:14:22 There are claims that it was actually the police that sparked last night's violence. It started during those speeches where there was pushing and shoving, and the protesters quite clearly blaming overzealous policing. Basil the Great argued this is only going to get worse of call-aheads don't prevail. The police are already on thin ice with the public. Look at how it started. And that overzealous policing continued, and this is where the trouble began, as protesters peacefully marched towards the Deguah family home where Henry was murdered.
Starting point is 00:16:02 So do you see that? Can I be very clear? That is not a gang of thugs. That was a group of mourners, of patriots who wanted to pay tribute. But as Jack Hadfield reported from the scene, as the crowd moved down on Belmont Road in Southampton near the house in Southampton where Henry Novak died, riot police ran to bolster the initial police line. Now Lucy Connolly argued this was a big mistake. Posting on X, if I were the police in Southampton, the last thing I'd be doing right now is trotting out the riot police and giving it the big I am. Your officers behaved like animals. There is no getting away from that, no excuse, show some respect and integrity. What little respect anyone had for the police is gone. It's time for the police and the rest of the public servants to earn the public's respect back.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And indeed for a moment, things were calm as protesters took the knee. Watch. There were also chance of guilt. Nothing. So there was being sucking off for a bit back, yeah? Nothing. There were also chance. of I Can't Breathe.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. Henry's last words, of course.
Starting point is 00:17:36 But tensions then escalated. Look. To chance of I can't breathe, the police then added. then edged backwards. Young Bob, who was one of the independent reporters on the scene, reported the police have pushed protesters back using riot shields in a completely unprovoked and aggressive manner, in doing so escalating tension and provoking further disorder.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Watch his video. Exploitation of us vulnerable in society, you have to expect this sort of reaction. Civil unrest is the inevitability of mass migration. As soon as an area of demographic view of place, This is what happens because people no longer recognise the Britain that they previously knew from their generation, from their family, from their ancestors. And by the way, I want to give huge credit to the independent reporters on the scene, especially UK-splush young Bob and Ayy Audits,
Starting point is 00:21:31 who I was really relying on because you know you can't trust the mainstream media in these situations. The police were then chased down the road with bins. Tommy Robinson posted some protesters were injured and covered in blood. with footage of police kicking one man on the ground. Yet another bleeding protester stared down the cops. Fox Populi was on the scene independently reporting too. And they revealed that after hours of standing against each other, police have just charged at the remaining protesters
Starting point is 00:23:16 as they are attempting to disperse the crowd. Here's their footage. But before that had even happened, the government's mouthpiece, Home Secretary Jabana MacMood had set the party line, posting the scenes this evening in Portswood are completely unacceptable. The Novak family made a powerful call to us all yesterday to not let Henry's death be used to create further division, hatred or tension.
Starting point is 00:24:19 There can be no justification for hijacking this tragedy to stir up violence and disorder. Those responsible can expect to face the full force of the law. I thank the police who have tonight shown great bravery and calm in the face of disgraceful violence directed at them. Now let's compare that with what she said during the Black Lives Matter, violent protests in 2020. Many constituents have been touched with me regarding protests across the United States
Starting point is 00:24:41 after the murder of George Floyd. I share their anger at this unspeakable outrage. You can see the difference. And let me tell you, the MSM just want this story to go away. They are livid that I've had to put Henry Novak on their front pages and at the top of their bulletins after ignoring this story for weeks. And now they've decided they can turn it into a predictable beat-up about Nigel Farage stoking violence. That's all because he suggested in his emergency broadcast yesterday that we should
Starting point is 00:25:15 respond to the incident with pure cold rage. Henry's family have responded to this in just the most extraordinarily dignified way. But I suggest the rest of us, respond to this with pure cold rage. Now who do you associate more with Farage or Humza useless, using this incident for his own Islamist brand of lefters lies? There are some sick individuals who are using Henry's murder to not only further their own hateful ideology, but also to divide society.
Starting point is 00:26:00 That's despite the words of Henry's. father Mark Novak, who said, and I quote, we do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension. So shame on you, Nigel Farage, for ignoring and dishonouring the Novak family. And that was the line, the despicable line, that slippery Stama took at PMQs today.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Now, when Reform UK leader Farage got up, Just listen to the scumbag MPs shouting him down as he tried to raise his point about the two-tier policing we are all terrified about. Following the horrendous circumstances of Henry Novak's death, can I urge the Prime Minister to consider this? It is now clear to growing millions in this country that we're living under two-tier policing.
Starting point is 00:26:59 The instructions that are given two police officers from police bosses are clear and written down in ink. It says you must treat different ethnic groups in different ways. That, apart from the upset
Starting point is 00:27:17 and the anger at the circumstances of his death, the anger that you saw spilling out in Southampton last night. And which is in which is in danger of getting considerably worse. If the public lose trust in being treated fairly by the police, can he take some action,
Starting point is 00:27:52 end this divisive practice of two-tier policing and make sure that all British citizens are treated the same? Mr. Mr. Speaker, I don't believe there's two-tier policing in this country. country. I'm really shocked that he pretends to have respect for Henry's family and then acts in this way. They are a grieving family. Sick, he's the one doing. He is the one politicizing the family. Stama. And I want to make a promise to you. I promise you that Stama is more angry about Farage's pure cold rage video than he is about the body. Cam footage of Henry Novak. This culture of DEI, I mean, whoever came up with that name must have a sort of sick sense of humour, to be, calling it DEI, which is almost...
Starting point is 00:28:50 Earlier, Peter Lloyd had released footage of Stama, seeming to laugh and shake his head when journalists asked if he had a message for Henry Novak's family. Watch this. He resigned Prime Minister! This family, Prime Minister! I'm a safe by the son. But Slippery Sama has been taking his lead from the corrupted MSM, like Channel 4 News. Now, you'll know Reform UK love putting up Zia Yusuf on left-wing broadcast because the identity, politics-obsessed MSM struggle to deal with the fact a non-white Muslim
Starting point is 00:29:30 is making the argument they hate so much. No one is going to guilt-rip us into not making these arguments. I'm afraid we now do live in a country. where anti-white racism is structurally embedded in many of our great institutions, including the police. But in this particular case, which is so tragic, and may at the end of the day be so unique, is it not wrong to use it as an example of a broader trend? This is precisely what the father of the victim has warned against. There are many, many examples of two-tier policing and justice in this country.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And with regard to this case, we can talk about the fact that in this country... If you're of a certain religion, if you're of a certain religion, if you are of a certain religion, you get to carry a deadly weapon around in public. However, that was just the entree, the starter. Because Yusuf, not a man I like or support, by the way, after he reported Rupert Lowe to the police, causing the split on the right,
Starting point is 00:30:30 but whom I will always call out when he does something good, completely owned and completely humiliated. Kathy Newman of Sly News, who should now resign from the MSM in disgrace. Watch this masterclass. Are you happy with him using that phrase? Kathy, what Nigel Farage said today was that White Lives Matter as much as Black Lives.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Do you disagree with that statement? You seem to be conducting an interview with me, but I'm trying to ask you the questions, if I may, because you're the politician. Well, firstly, I'm correcting, with respect, Kathy, I'm correcting you on this, because to leave out the second half of the sentence of these deliberately misrepresentative
Starting point is 00:31:10 and misleading. So Nigel said that white lives matter as much as black lives. And my question to you, do you disagree with that statement? And my question to you is about Nigel Farage's claims of anti-white prejudice. I mean, there is overwhelming evidence, isn't there, of police racism over the decades against black minority ethnic people. You've got to go back to the Scarman report, the McPherson report, the Casey Review. There are decades of racism by the police against black minority ethnic people. Do you accept that that is a fact? I'm kind of stunned that you couldn't bring yourself to say that you agree with the statement that white lives matter as much as black lives. I can't understand why you can't just confirm
Starting point is 00:31:53 you agree with that statement. Zia, you're the senior member of a party, you're a politician. My job is to hold you to account. Well, she failed to do that. Instead, it was Yusuf, who brought the receipts about. Cathy Newman's total hypocrisy given her public pronouncements over BLM and George Floyd. You know, Kathy, you've been conducting this interview on a premise that it is wholly inappropriate to watch that body cam footage and be furious. It is wholly inappropriate to conclude from watching that body cam footage that there should be some political ramifications for this. When in 2021, Kathy, you wrote op-ed after op-ed, article after article in news, news,
Starting point is 00:32:38 like the Independent about George Floyd. In fact, and let me quote you your own words. You said that you were, that the, you expressed delight that the BLM hashtag transported, and this is a direct quote from you, Kathy, transported the rage of George Floyd's death across the four corners of the globe. Zia, I've said to you. I'm saying to you, I understand people are angry. A totally different reaction, a totally different reaction, Kathy, not just from you.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I'm only putting that to you because I'm speaking to you now, but I'm afraid this has been endemic across most of the media landscape in this country and the institutions in this country. And the reality is this, because Henry was a white man, because Henry was a white man, because Henry was a white man, you seem to be interviewing me, but... Zia, I can see you're on broadcast mode, but if you'd listen to my monologue at the start of this show, I know you were on a rival show, so that was impossible for you. But I reflected on the public anger and the anger that people feel. But I also reflected on the concerns that MPs have, including the constituency MP of Henry Novak, who is worried about that anger being stoked by politicians
Starting point is 00:33:50 for their own ends, for political ends. I'm asking you about that. I'm reflecting on that. There's only one thing for you to do, Cathy Newman, resign. The British Passion Corporation was even more disgusting, deciding to use their flagship news site, not to debate the anti-white murder of Henry Novak, but rather slam Nigel Farage for his reaction to it.
Starting point is 00:34:12 We've seen this before, after a terrible, tragic case, people take to the streets. Is this a sign of public anger that they don't feel that the system, the government, has got a grip on this issue? So I think this was an incitement by Nigel Farage, and that's exactly what we had. And what makes me even sadder
Starting point is 00:34:31 is the barrage of hate that has gone out by the online warriors towards the family. The family wanted calm. Their ask was that we focused on knife crime and that we worked to stop knife crime. They wanted us to focus on the murder of their son. And they're very clear they were fearful that this would be the reaction.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And as a consequence of that, the family are now experiencing hate online. And that's not where we should be as a country. Leila, I'll let you respond to that. That claim of incite. I think that video is what's incited this anger. It's incited anger in all of us. And naming that anger, as Nigel did in the video, is not what's causing division.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Of course. Layla Cunningham is completely right. But she was surrounded by suicidal leftists like ex-Met police superintendent, Leroy, Logan, who was hysterical. Not about Novak, but Farage. You bring in Leroy on the protests and what we were seeing in Southampton. Well, if anyone is telling me that when you run off your mouth to say, rage and white lives matter and this two-tier policing which is not evidence-based at all that doesn't impact on people assembling outside a police station and then going on to
Starting point is 00:35:50 other addresses you're fooling yourself this is clearly cause and effect when you have let me finish I'll listen I'll let you talk when politicians don't really realise the impact of their words. And just like you were saying, the family said, please, do not use my son in that way. And you still go and do it. And there is no apology from your side. I think it's ludicrous. Apology for what Nigel pointed.
Starting point is 00:36:25 For the impact of what has been said. It is clear that people have been incited by what Nigel Farage, and other people in reform have said. It's just bullshit. There's only one person who's had to apologise after that broadcast. It's the Goblin Newsnight host, Matt Shirley, who deliberately misquoted Nigel Farage
Starting point is 00:36:48 multiple times during the show suggesting he used the term white, cold rage. So you know what this was about, was about trying to racialise what Farage had said. Watch him do it. Nigel Farage has said in response to this, we should respond to this with white, cold rage. Do you agree with him?
Starting point is 00:37:09 No, I think he's completely wrong. This is not the way to go. What we don't need is rage, because what rage will do is cause someone else's child to get hurt. We need resilience, we need courage. I don't think that his intervention was helpful. I think that we should try and depoliticise this and look at what's going wrong in our society,
Starting point is 00:37:29 how we can make it better, rather than trying to whip up anger. Rage should not be coming into it. And what is the risk if more people follow Nigel Farage's appeal for white cold rate? So I think that Nigel Farage is just wading into this without ever doing any work. I've been working on this for years now. I have put out, I wrote to every public institution as a minister that don't allow activists to pressure you. Here's what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:37:56 He doesn't want to do that sort of thing. And instead, he's whipping people up and I think that we will end up seeing more division. Well, after Nigel Farage's lawyers demanded an apology, the BBC Goblin has posted on his ex account, not actually on the show. I owe Nigel Farage an apology during last night's news night. We covered the murder of Henry Novak and the political reaction to the case, including discussing Nigel Farage's comments about pure cold rage. However, I referred to white cold rage. This was a mistake on my part, a misremembering of the quote. It didn't change the content of the interview, but I should have got the quote right.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I apologize to Nigel Farage for this. Let me tell you, it was. It wasn't a mistake. It was a disgusting and shameful attempt by the News Night Goblin to racialize Nigel Farage's comments. And this happens all over the mainstream media. I mean, look at the panic, absolute panic in the Jeremy Vine studio today when a caller challenged the MSM BLM narrative around George Floyd. Another thing that I'd like to just address the lady on your panel mentioned George Floyd. It's nothing like that, because Floyd. overdose on drugs. He was not murdered. That is the encourage of justice. Charlotte, don't.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Sorry, you've just, you've lost the room at this point. I'm sorry. There was an entire trial in America. He was murdered by police officer, Sean. That's the kidding. All right. Whether there was any readacross from Floyd to the Henry case, we'll see what you think later.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And breaking right now, we do have some big news. The Hampshire Police Chief Constable, Lexus Boone, who we haven't heard from at all over this saga, has finally spoken out on the British Bashing Corporation, saying he is sorry for handcuffing and arresting Henry. Now, I haven't seen this. I'm watching this at the same time as you. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:39:52 What was filmed there is a tragedy, an absolute tragedy. And you can't help but be affected by it. It's very difficult to watch. It's difficult footage to watch. And I really feel for the family of Henry at this time and I understand their point of view and why they're upset with the police. We have said we are sorry for handcuffing and arresting Henry at that time.
Starting point is 00:40:16 What we have currently is an independent investigation into what happened. I would just ask people not to prejudge that independent investigation or make assumptions because it needs to consider all the evidence and let the officers talk about their point of view as well so that there is a fair and independent investigations. The key point here is that we handcuffed and arrested Henry.
Starting point is 00:40:41 That's their point around dignity, and we have said sorry for that. It's not the only point, is it? It's not the only point. But this interview went on. He also said it's important people don't prejudge what was going on through the officer's minds. respond to really difficult, unpredictable situations, and we need them to do that day in day out. There is a process for understanding what they did and why they did it, and that's the independent investigation that needs to work and be effective so that we can be held to account in a fair
Starting point is 00:41:20 process. I think what I'm concerned about at the moment is people are prejudging it and using this situation to propagate violence. watch the whole video and everything in it is a very distressing video. But what we mustn't do is prejudge what was in the officer's minds, what decisions they made, there is a proper process to do that. It's not appropriate for me to pre-judge. If someone is saying I've been stabbed and your officer says don't think you have made, is that the right police protocol? So what in terms of the police protocol, what we should be doing is obviously assessing the situation. Those officers have
Starting point is 00:41:57 assess the situation through their point of view, for me to second guess or prejudge that, I understand why people are upset by that and I get what people are saying, but it's got to go through a proper process. I don't want to influence that process inappropriately. I want to make sure it runs properly and there is proper accountability as a result. We are not prejudging anything to cause violence. We are responding to what we saw with our own eyes. Now, he's also just given an interview to sly news. I don't have the footage of it, but he was asked whether there is two-tier policing in this country. And guess what Boone responded by saying? I would say absolutely not. I see officers day and day out on the ground, serving without fear or favor, all our communities
Starting point is 00:42:43 and I think that's the case nationally. Asked if he believes policing is anti-white. Boone replied, no, I don't. He's clueless. Katie Hopkins used the words of the left themselves to thank the protesters in Southampton. Thank you to everyone who stood ground in Southampton for Henry. God bless this strong lady. This is a righteous rage. That was the words of Owen Jones in the past. This is anger at unspeakable outrage.
Starting point is 00:43:11 That was the words of Shabana MacMood in the past. Justice isn't handed to us. It must be demanded. The words of Sarah Sultanah Bran in the past. Katie says, this is the start. Kelly J. Keene, who was at those protests last night, summed the situation up this way. Henry Novak may be the man who changed the world. She joins us now on the superstar panel alongside Nick Tenconi and Henry Bolton. Kelly J. Keene, you were there last night. Do you agree with these
Starting point is 00:43:53 claims that the police were heavy-handed and in part that heavy-handedness then led to the violence that we saw later on? Well, I did see some of the violence. And I think right at the beginning when we tried to walk off the steps, the police were really uncooperative. So, and needlessly, you know, I kind of get it. Maybe they thought that the police station was going to get smashed up. But I think what they know, what the police know, is over the last couple of decades,
Starting point is 00:44:31 we have been creating an environment in this country where those sort of people that attended that protest last night killed totally discarded and they're not cared for at all. And actually the protest was in part organised by the local patriots. And they were, like, really decent people. When it looked like it was going to get a bit tasty, they left. They went to the pub, many of them I was sat with, because they knew, you know, what was coming. And they've been protesting the migrant hotels for, like, the last 12 months.
Starting point is 00:45:15 So, you know, it's, is anyone really surprised? If you keep saying to people, look, you've got a vote, you've got to vote. by the way, the vote that you've just had doesn't really count. We're not going to listen to your vote. We're going to promise you stuff that we're never going to deliver. We're going to screw you. We're going to make your lives harder and harder and harder. And then when that moment, when you are a victim of the most heinous, despicable crime,
Starting point is 00:45:39 we're going to be casual, pedestrian about it, and we're going to let you bleed on the floor, and we're going to handcuff you as if you're a criminal. I mean, I think what's happened is mild in comparison to what I think is coming. Nick Tenconi you gave a very powerful speech. We played it on the show in full last night. What did you see after that protest? And what do you think led to the violence?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Do you think the police were heavy-handed? Peace be with you, Dan. Thanks for having me on the show. It's very simple, and I want everyone to hear this. So we are Crystal in summer of 24, after reform did what they did at the general election or didn't do what they did, we had an atrocity and I can't talk about that atrocity. It's impossible to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It's the most heinous of atrocities. And the Patriots took to the streets and there was unrest. So the politicized version from the left-wing media is they'll use the terms of violent disorder and looting and all these other words. Yes, pockets of that were true, but basically you had a populace, typically the white working class who have been disenfranchised, trodden on, they've been absolutely destroyed, economically, socially, culturally, in every way, shape, or form, deliberately by the establishment for so many decades.
Starting point is 00:47:04 They're ready to, they're at breaking point, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, etc. So yesterday, after my speech was given, my team and I had a standard operating procedure that we are to, it's my pleasure to stay and do photos with people if that's what they want, they want to ask me questions. And so we pulled to the side safely away from the crowds and we did that for half an hour and anywhere between 30, 40, 50 people, depending how long I'm going to stand there for, we'll do that. Then it's time to leave.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Why is it time to leave? Because now, as a result of yesterday, even more patriots will go to jail because for violent disorder, you just have to be there. You don't have to have done anything. You just have to have to have been there. So whilst everyone on the panel and everyone watching the show has enormous consideration and empathy for the fact, as I've just mentioned, that it's a specific part of this country's culture that has been ripped away from it. It's not the rich, it's not the affluent, it's not the working class, it's the white working class that have been absolutely betrayed and destroyed. They're the ones angry on the front line and it's just a massive violent disorder trap.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's five years if you get slapped by the judge. normally it's 18 months out in nine. I was the one in those crown courts back in summer 24, approaching autumn 24 where my associates and families that I knew invited me to be there to be in those briefing rooms with those QCs and with those briefs
Starting point is 00:48:28 and explaining to them, look, you guys have got to plead not guilty because I know the system and I know how it works. You've got to plead not guilty. And the briefs were all saying, no, go guilty now because if you go guilty now, it's going to be a more lenient sentence. And they just, one off to the other,
Starting point is 00:48:44 they just went to jail. So after speeches yesterday, I was there. I saw what happened. I saw how it was sort of choreograph. It's time to go home. No one needs to go to jail or be injured or anything like that. In the case of Peter Lynch, God rest his soul, it cost his life going to jail. It's no joke going to jail.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So it absolutely breaks my heart that that happens. I've been in undated today with people saying, why did the violence happen? Why did this happen? Why did they go there? And it just, Dan, it breaks my heart. You've seen it all before. It's a massive trap and it gives Stama a chance. You've just rage baited me for 40 minutes with all of that propaganda and all of that
Starting point is 00:49:22 footage. Kia Sharma has now got a platform to once again demonise further. And change the conversation immediately. Now, Henry Bolton, you have an interesting take on this as a former police guy yourself. Can I first ask for your reaction to the state? from the Hampshire police chief Alexis Boone, who has been completely silent up until now, Henry, and I'm sorry, I did not feel like his response
Starting point is 00:49:55 provided any type of reassurance that he understands what he's dealing with here. I actually suspect, Dan, that he does know, but you're right, the response didn't indicate that. I'm glad that they've apologized. He's apologized to the Novak family. That's the very least that can be done. But I think whilst I absolutely agree, I understand the anger.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I mean, I need to address that, Dan. We have had mass immigration for decades now. We have had mass illegal immigration for decades. We have had the importation of cultures that have effectively demanded that the indigenous British culture has moved aside to make way for their own. We've seen politicians at the local and national level to appease that, facilitate that. We've ended up, as Nick quite rightly said, with young white boys being the most disadvantaged in education. We see now that migrants are being employed before Brits.
Starting point is 00:51:01 We are seeing two-tier policing. And this goes back to the chief constable of Hampshire. There is two-tier policing. However, it is the result, I believe, not in, if you like, intrinsic prejudice on the part of individual police officers. It is the result of decades of erosion of the original principles of Sir Robert Peel when he set up the police. You can summarize those by saying the police must be entirely independent, not accept any political, influence, not operate under policy, but under or operates under the law and that the law must be implemented without fear or favour entirely equitably. Now we've moved away from that because
Starting point is 00:51:52 politicians like Keir Stama are playing politics with public safety and policing. And that is utterly and completely unforgivable. And we've had Theresa May or Tony Blair started it, but Theresa May really sort of went to town on closing the police training colleges. We've got no institutional police training. We've got no police culture, if you like, that inculcates those P-Lite principles in policing. So in a sense, I don't blame the individual police officers for what happened. And it breaks my heart to see these scenes that you've shown. But they are the product of an entirely flawed political and police.
Starting point is 00:52:36 leadership structure. We've got to that's what we've got to address and was absolutely absolutely I feel the anger like everybody else does but ultimate and I it's going to express itself absolutely it's got the people are going to express that anger you can't expect them to bottle it up and bottle it up and bottle it up it's like a pressure cooker it's going to go off and and I understand that but what I'm myself focusing on is not throwing rocks and bricks at police officers but he's trying to redesign policing so that we go back to where we should be, where the police are actually regarded with trust and credibility by the British public, where the British public, where the man and woman on the street, who is innocent,
Starting point is 00:53:22 feels that they can go to the police and rely on them to provide their safety and security and assistance, whereas the guilty fear them quite likely. And look, absolutely. Absolutely that has to happen. But the problem is Kelly J Keene, as we saw last night, four patriots who have had enough, who have literally seen Henry Novak die in those circumstances. And by the way, I have spoken to people over the last 24 hours, Kelly, who disagree with the judge in the case and say that if different action had been taken by the police officers,
Starting point is 00:53:57 there would have been a chance to save Henry. And that's coming from someone who was a top medic in the army in the past. So people are going to want justice when it comes to this case, Kelly. Like there's almost two things we need to deal with here. And the problem is I just do not feel like the police chief has any idea, any idea of the fury and the total demands for justice. Yeah, because actually if justice had been done, I mean, I guess once once they, done what they did on that night and the video footage was out, all bets are off really and everyone's going to be just incredibly angry.
Starting point is 00:54:42 But the way that you deal with that anger, if you don't want people to be angry, then you get rid of these stupid DEI sort of policies. You ensure that everybody involved in that evening is punished, like really severely punished, criminally punished, for their part in just, you know, dereliction of duty and ignoring that boy as he died. and you also, you know, there's a chain of command.
Starting point is 00:55:06 If you're the chief of police and your officers do that, then how are you still chief of police? Like, when are you accountable for that nice big fat pension that you hope to retire on? Or maybe if you're in Birmingham, you retire for a day, and then you get your job back and you retire a second time. So I think that's another issue for everybody that we know that actually there is no accountability in the police force.
Starting point is 00:55:30 There's no accountability anywhere. You can get away with doing. the most horrific things and there might just be a little bit of an inquiry and lessons will be learned and nothing will change. Exactly. And let's swiftly move on. Let's swiftly move on and sweep that under the carpet because by the way, all of the mainstream media wanted to sweep this under the carpet until Al Fury when we saw that body cam footage. It's not like the facts of this case. We're not known to people in the media yet they still buried this in their news bulletins, put it at the back of their newspapers. Now, Nick Tanconey, I want to ask you, because of course you are the
Starting point is 00:56:03 leader of UK, but you have turned UKIP much more into a sort of street protest movement. And you have seen what has happened over the past 24 hours, Nick. The political establishment and the mainstream media are coming for you. Okay, they are blaming you. They are blaming Tommy Robinson. They are blaming Lawrence Fox. They are blaming Nigel Farage. What's your message to patriots who are angry? How do you avoid violence that will simply be used? by the likes of Slippery Stama to lock good people up, to create a new Lucy Connolly, a new Peter Lynch. That's what they want, Nick.
Starting point is 00:56:41 As one of the people who is at the head of this sort of new political action, what's your advice? How do you deal with this? This is a very fine line, isn't it, that you have to now strike? Yeah, sure. So thanks for calling me the head of all of it. Thanks for that, Dan. No, I take it.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Look, it's an honour. I take it. So first of all, you have to be willing to go to prison, right? You have to be willing to go to prison. And you are. And you are. Yeah, yeah. I don't care about prison and I don't care about, and I don't care about death.
Starting point is 00:57:17 When my time is up, that's in God. That's in God's hands. There are rules. There are rules doing what we do. Any street activist knows that, especially if they've climbed the ranks, and they do it professionally for a living. There are rules.
Starting point is 00:57:30 So my advice to, I do this all the time with Patriots. And I kind of did it. in my first little segment with you then. No one has to go to jail. No one has to get hurt and no one has to die. And no family has to be left grieving forever because of because of silly actions. Unfortunately, I can't control or explain to the Patriots what happens with unbridled testosterone. I wish I could. But there we go, such as life. So I am there in the communities all the time at street level explaining the solution. I am always, Blackpool just been and gone, as you know,
Starting point is 00:58:07 whole this year already, Leeds. I am never not at street level, and I will always remain at street level in the communities and standing shoulder to shoulder with these people who have given up. They've lost hope. They are uninspired. They are demotivated. And I know too much about how anxiety and depression controls people's minds,
Starting point is 00:58:25 behaviors and emotions. People need light. They need how. hope. Britain hasn't had this before when I say this, myself and what myself and my team, most importantly, bring to the table. And Britain has never been engulfed in the kind of wickedness and darkness that it is currently engulfed in. Britain needs light. It needs help, support. It needs to be inspired. So that is why I do what I do. That's why we have the direction of travel that we have. That is why we will continue to do this whilst we work with Rupert Lowe.
Starting point is 00:58:57 whilst we work, Dan, on your show, you've actually praised Zia and Leila, and rightly so as well. I've said many times on the show. And I will continue to do so. When they do the right thing. We are not enemies. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:59:10 But unfortunately, it is often Reform UK that turn on people like you, turn on people like me, but we will come to that. Kelly Jakeen, you were at the protest last night. You were at Unite the Kingdom. Now, I love this, because how on earth can people call you some type of thug,
Starting point is 00:59:33 given how beautiful and slender you are? Do you think it's important that women join this movement on the streets? Yeah, I think we probably add a little element of maybe not so much of testosterone, which might be a handy thing. But, you know, I've got three sons and a daughter. I have a vested interest in making sure that the country remains something that I want them to continue to live in. And at the moment, I don't feel like that. I feel like if I had enough money, I'd scoop us all up and go and live in some red state in the United States.
Starting point is 01:00:09 But, you know, I love this country. I really want it to get back where it was. I fancy a little bit of Gene Hunt policing personally. That might be a bit nice sometimes. But yeah, women have to get it. involved in the movement. There are quite a lot of women. There were quite a lot of women there last night, actually, which was really nice to see. But for all women that are worried about going, I would just say, you need to put your bodies in these places. And Nick's quite right. There's a time
Starting point is 01:00:41 to sort of be there and there's a time to go home. And I think I chose the right time to exit last And I think that what you can't do is you can't hand the mainstream media, Kirstama and everybody else that wants to say that it's a load of thugs and it's violent. So they can focus on that. And then they're no longer talking about that boy and what happened and the two-tier policing. They're denying all that. They won't have to deal with it. They can just talk about so-called far-right thugs and the violence.
Starting point is 01:01:09 So we can't give that to them. Breaking right now. Advance UK folds as a political party as Ben Habib backs restore Britain and Rupert Lowe with an attempt to unite the real right of British politics. Now, I think this is a very patriotic decision from a very patriotic man. It is garnered a massive response across the political right today with people saying, actually there is now hope that there can be an alternative force to Nigel Farage and Reform UK. Ben Habib will join us for an exclusive interview in just one moment, but first I want to show you his announcement earlier today.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And the responsible thing to do now for the country and for the people of this country is for Advance UK to take a step back and to allow the pressure, that Restore Britain will undoubtedly bring on reform and the Conservative Party to take, to allow that to develop and either form something new out of it that creates a genuine, serious, principal pro-British force that eventually becomes a government or becomes a government in its own right. Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe immediately welcomed that announcement, posting on X. Ben Habib has just announced. that Advance UK is taking a step back in order to allow the momentum behind Restore Britain to build.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Ben has previously endorsed Restore Britain in Makerfield, and I thank him for that. I believe that Ben and the wider Advanced UK membership, who are patriots who want the best for Britain, they are welcome in our Restore Britain family to help deliver the radical change that the country so desperately needs. Ben and I have not always agreed on logistics over the last few months. That's politics. but this is an incredibly principal decision, and I have the utmost respect for what Ben has sacrificed to build advance to where it is today. For both Ben and I, it is country first every single time. It would be an honour to welcome Ben and the Advance UK membership into Restore Britain,
Starting point is 01:03:31 but that is a decision for them, and I will respect whatever they decide. In the years to come, today will be seen as a significant event on Britain's path to restoration. And Ben Habib joins me now alongside our superstar panel. U-Kip leader, Nick Ten Kony, Henry Bolton, a former UKIP leader and activist Kelly J. Keen. So Ben-hab, this must have been a really difficult decision. I know the passion that so many of you have put into Advanced UK, but it is certainly a patriotic decision that proves when you have said, You will never put ego first. You will always put country first.
Starting point is 01:04:17 You were not fibbing. The first question I have to ask, though, Ben, because it's what everyone wants to know after Rupert Lowe's response to you on X, is, are you going to join Restore Britain? I know, because I've been told by senior sources within Restore Britain, that at some point, they even wanted you to become deputy leader under Rupert Lowe. Have you made a decision about that? would you consider joining the party? I haven't made a decision.
Starting point is 01:04:47 The idea of being deputy leader, I think, comes from when Rupert and I was talking about merging the parties. The idea was that he would be leader and I would be deputy. I think that's a heartback to discussions we had earlier this year. But for me, you said it was a difficult decision. Actually, funny enough, it wasn't particularly difficult, Dan, because you might recall I only launched to advance because I felt advance was needed because I didn't want a political movement on the right-hand side of reform. I wanted a party which could, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:18 give reform a run for its money and at the very least try and convert reform into a proper political force and at the very best to replace it because, as you know, I don't have much faith in the leadership of reform and I don't think they have a political philosophy and I think they'd be not very good for the country. So that's why Advance was launched. And when Rupert Lowe launch Restore. And that was slightly disappointed for me because I thought Rupert and I would be able to work together. But be that as it may, Restore was launched and advanced existed. And this created basically a far too splintered right. We've already got a number of parties on the so-called right of British politics. And Restore is not only doing well on social media, but it did
Starting point is 01:06:03 extremely well in a real 10 elections, 10 local elections in the Great Yarmouth. area and it seems to be polling very well in Makerfield. Now, I do have my differences with Restore. It's a party owned by Rupert Lowe and there are some elements in it with which I disagree. But he is undoubtedly, Restore is undoubtedly more of my disposition than it is the Farage's disposition. And he is undoubtedly going to bring massive pressure on reform and also the Conservative Party. and it will be wrong if I am of the mind, as I say I am, and which I am, of simply doing what's right for the country, it would be wrong to just continue to occupy that space, pretending to be an electoral force when actually the real combatants at the moment are reform and restore and causing confusion.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Let them get on with it. What I effectively said today is we're going to preserve the integrity of our own. our membership, our structure, our ability to produce policy and so on by merging with the Great British Political Action Committee, which is a political action committee, not a movement, as distinct from our movement. We'll go on doing our thing. We'll preserve our existence, as it were, through the GB PAC, and we'll watch Restore, and we will hope and pray that Restore does everything that we hope of it. But if they don't, and if reform collapses or there's some other need for advance to come back into the fray, then we'll come back into the fray.
Starting point is 01:07:40 But I'm certainly not ruling out doing something with restore in due course either. All options are on the table now, aren't they, Dan? Because I'm basically removed myself from electoral politics. And what I think, what I would like to see, actually, if there's anything good that comes with it, people talk about uniting the right. What I've done is vacate the field so that the right can unite. And, you know, there can be a debate and then the right can come together in some shape or What I would like to see is some grown-up thinking from the leadership of reform
Starting point is 01:08:11 and some grown-up thinking from the leadership of the Conservative Party, both parties of which seem to be more party before country. And I think it's time that they did some introspection and looked at how important the 29 general election is and set aside their desire for office, which seems to supersede their desire to do the right thing, that they desire to be in office on their own, set that aside and understand what it is the country needs and then come together as grown-ups. I know I hate the expression of grown-ups,
Starting point is 01:08:45 but I'm going to use it in this case. Come together as grown-ups and do what the country needs. Get a pro-British centre-right government that will deliver this country to redemption, restore this country. Nick Tinkone is with us today too on the superstar panel. He is the leader of UKIP. So you're obviously part of this Unite the Right discussion as well, Nick. But at the Gorton and Denton by election, you upset a lot of people by backing Reform UK. Have you made a decision about what you're going to do in Makerfield? And does Ben Habib's decision in terms of Advance UK feed into what you might do with UK
Starting point is 01:09:22 or what you might do with Restore Britain? The decision to put out statements on Gorton and Denton, and I believe Makerfield, we're not in the business of, we're not here to be liked. That's the price you pay for leadership. Everyone in leadership knows that. I stand by everything that I've said. I completely acknowledge the, and have understood and named, it's very important, named the war. This is traditionalism versus communism.
Starting point is 01:09:52 This is the political ideology of conservatism versus economic socialism. We are at war both culturally and economically. let's not forget we're being taxed into oblivion. It's called economic socialism for a reason, and we all know that it's cultural vandalism, which has its roots in all sorts of hideous, evil and insidious ideologies and agendas. And in the case of Henry Novak, God rest of soul, it's cost him, arguably his life will never know what could have happened in those three minutes. So they make no apologies for where we are and what we've done since summer 24. I've had every single hurdle that could possibly be thrown at me as a,
Starting point is 01:10:29 leader of a mainstream political party and we are still up. We are still up because I can walk into a crowd of 50 people or a thousand people and they all want to speak to me. They all want to hear me speak. They all want to hear me. Most importantly, Dan, diagnose the problem. This is traditionalism versus communism. It is the right, but the conservative right versus the hard left. This is the long march through the institutions in terms of the wickedness. So as long as Nigel Farage is moving to the right, as long as Nigel Farage is saying radical stuff, as long as him and Zia are playing ball, I know for a fact that him and his team are observing what we do at street level, the fuss we make, the noise we make, the direction of travel we set, the rhetoric that we use. They can see all of those
Starting point is 01:11:19 things. Now, as long as they're contesting, in the case of the locals, 99% of seats, as long as they're on the trajectory to do what they're doing, as long as they poll where they poll, and As long as Nigel has, the infamy that he has, as long as those things are true, my thoughts and feelings about Nigel and reform aren't relevant, facts are relevant. And that is that we must, myself, Ben, Rupert, people that I admire, respect and love, and are proud to call associates in the case of Ben. I haven't met Rupert yet. But we must pool in some way, shape or form, money, resource, candidates, systems, processes.
Starting point is 01:11:57 We must campaigning strategies, ideas. We must pull that if our ideology and if our campaigns align. If they don't, then there's no point. But if they do, we must do that in case Nigel doesn't do the business. Now, Henry Bolton, I've been fascinated to ask you about this. Former UKIP leader, of course. Last time we talked, you had taken on a senior role within the SDP party. but you were actually spotted, I believe, at a big Restore Britain event over the weekend.
Starting point is 01:12:33 What's going on? Are you going to defect to Restore Britain? Are you involved in the party? I have joined Restore UK. Restore Britain. Sorry. I'm apologised. And I've provided a bit of advice on a few things. I'm not in a position to, nor would I even if I was, give you any insight on what Rupert's thinking in regard of what you've just been discussing with Ben and Nick. I do think that we are in a sort of existential battle for the cultural identity and future of the United Kingdom and the British people, and indeed the English, Welsh and Scottish people as well. I think, as I said earlier, we have been under a sustained assault. as the British, we have been expected
Starting point is 01:13:29 and indeed we have been pushed aside culturally by imported cultures. That's not always their fault. It's often the fault of people like Kirstama who have been building that narrative for many years and pushing it now legally from the position of government. And with that influence through policing as we were discussing earlier.
Starting point is 01:13:54 So there is a, Nick's right, there's an absolute need for us to be pushing back. I'm not sure whether there is really scope, personally speaking, for some of the coming together that people would like. Nigel Farage, Zia Yusuf and so on are, I mean, often people say to me, Henry, why don't the right do more to unite, as though it is the fault of other people? No, the primary responsibility for that failure to unite rests with the leadership, of Reform UK. Totally. That's what I've said. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:28 The other ones that describe Tommy Robinson supporters as that lot. And I spoke to someone very senior connected to Reform UK the other day who said that comment by Richard Tice on G.B. News still to this day massively, massively harms the party. So Kelly J. Keane, you're looking at all of this. And I just wonder if you believe that the direction of travel now, because I would think it's fair to say you've been quite open to reform UK, but I wonder if you think the direction of travel is heading towards Restore Britain when you think about the Ben Habib announcement today, when you think about Henry Bolton, now defecting to restore Britain. Are you tempted at all, Kelly?
Starting point is 01:15:12 Am I tempted? Possibly, not really. I just want some egos just put themselves aside just for a bit so that we can... Like Ben's done today? Pardon? Like Ben's done today? Well, yeah, of course. And, you know, Ben's a decent bloke, so he's going to do stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I'm not necessarily talking about Ben's ego. The other two, the two big egos, I feel like Makerfield is really important. Andy Burnham is really important. Andy Burnham gives the new lease of life to labour. They'll become much more electable because they'll have a brand new leader, that can say, hey, that wasn't me, this is all new.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And I do think he might bring some people back to Labour. So Makerfield is really important. If a party doesn't get, let's say the elections tomorrow and Restore gets, say, 15% of the vote and reform lose by 2%, then I do think people will look at Restore and think, well, why did you do that? because I think reform can take votes from conservative. Reform can take votes from everyone.
Starting point is 01:16:25 I think Restore will mainly take votes from reform. So that's my sort of gut feeling on all of this. Ben, have you wanted to come back? Can I just very quickly say something there? Please. I think it's, I understand what Kelly Jay is saying, but there is another aspect to it. And that is what happens after the next general election.
Starting point is 01:16:48 And I know both Rupert well and I know Nigel well And I know the teams in both parties quite well And there is another question Who is able to govern? Who has got the attitude, the mindset, The character to do the necessary, unglomerous, detailed work of planning and preparation To be able to really pull this country out of...
Starting point is 01:17:13 And do you say Rupert over Nigel? Can we just be very, very clear on that? Absolutely. Absolutely. I just want to absolutely be clear. Rupert Lowe would be a better Prime Minister than Nigel Farage. You're clear on that. I have absolutely no doubt.
Starting point is 01:17:27 So it's a very low bar, Dan. That may be the case, but it's an important point, though, isn't it? It is an important point. Farage would be a spectacularly... Ben, Ben, you come in, Ben, Habib. I was just going to say, Farage would be a spectacularly bad Prime Minister. Sorry, Kelly. I'm sorry to say that, but he would be spectacularly bad.
Starting point is 01:17:51 He would damage this country. He hasn't got a coherent view on just about any of the major issues, including immigration, which is the biggest issue for 80% of the electorate. Kelly? He's all over the place on immigration. Kelly wants to just challenge that. Well, I just want to say, look, if Burnham gets in,
Starting point is 01:18:07 then it's a more difficult task to get anybody from the right in 10 Downing Street. So I'd rather Burnham not get in. And then those two, like Farage and Rupert, can fight to the death or join and then decide who's going to have the... So basically, Kelly, if you were in Maker Field, you would vote for the Reform UK candidate Rob Kenyon over Restore Britain's Rebecca Shepard. I just want either one of... I just want whoever's going to beat Burnham needs to be given the best opportunity possible. And I don't like tactical politics. Normally, I think you should just vote for the person you think will do the best job.
Starting point is 01:18:43 But that isn't how the left operates. And that's why sometimes they win, because they do tactically vote. Totally. And Berner wants to bring in proportional representation, but I'm not scared by that, you see, because I actually think that would be another brilliant way where the right could actually unite in different ways, but you could still vote for the party who you really love. But look, Ben Habib, I have had a huge amount of feedback on this today. So many outspoken viewers saying, Ben is such a patriot.
Starting point is 01:19:14 What an amazing man. what an incredible thing. And actually a lot of people had a huge amount of love for advance. I certainly did. So I do think there's a lot of positives that can be taken from the Advanced UK movement. I also love the Great British Pack as well.
Starting point is 01:19:27 And I do really recommend that people look into that organisation. So congratulations on the move today. Thank you. And maybe, maybe soon at some point, at some point, maybe we'll be introducing you as Restore Britain's Ben Habee. But we will see. Thank you so much for being here today. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:19:43 And a big announcement from you today. day. Breaking right now, hard leftist and one of the main architects of trying to bring down the United Kingdom, Marina Perkis, just got her ass whipped by a 19-year-old rising Reform UK star in a humiliating live on-air TV appearance. So Perkis appeared alongside George Finch, leader of the Warwickshire County Council and leader of Nuniton and Bedworth Borough Council on the Jeremy Vine show on Channel 5. Now, this is one of the most arrogant, nasty, horrible women in the United Kingdom. And I think that arrogance led her to believe that this was going to be an easy takedown for her, especially given George Finch has been criticized by people on the left, lots of folks saying,
Starting point is 01:20:31 oh, he's like the David Brent of politics. But how wrong she was. And I think we need to enjoy this moment. So we'll start by showing how Marina used the faux outrage over Robert Kenyon. He is the Reform UK candidate in Makerfield and his old tweets in a desperate attempt to bring down her co-panelist watch. Do you think he's going to win? I'm very actually caught. I'm going up Saturday. This is the first time I've been up and I'll go up Saturday. So I'll look at the data myself. But we are, it's looking really promising for us in Macon. Do you want him in Parliament? Do you want Robert but Kenyon and Parliament? A Reform UK Member of Parliament
Starting point is 01:21:12 that can stop Andy Burnham. Do you want him? No, no, no, no. Please be specific. I want people to know. Do you want him? Because I am appalled by this man. He is a man who has abused.
Starting point is 01:21:23 He is a self-admitted sexist. He says, women can't drive. I'd love to test him in parallel parking, by the way. Women can't drive. He says, oh, he slates. British women, please listen. He slates British women. He slates you saying,
Starting point is 01:21:36 you walk around with your bellies out, pushing your press. but if it was a European, you would take a bazooker to get me off them. He is sick. He is a sexist. He says women use abortions as a form of contraception. George, you can defend him. This is the person reform will put into government and shape legislation.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Do you understand? Is it interesting? George is calm and controlled. Perkis shrieking and trying to drown out his voice. Watch. Look, look, Roberts made comments. previously and he's apologised for them and he says, look, look, look, at the end of the day, just be a decent person and condemn it. Joe what? At the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:22:17 we're the only political party that's putting real people, not politicians. Don't you dare, don't you dare to do a disservice to working class people suggesting that Robert, me too, don't you dare suggest that working class people hold beliefs like Robert Kenyon? He's an insult to them. He's apologized for those, and he's made those mistakes years. Oh, please. People are people making a changed man, is he? But it just got better because then a woman called in and totally schooled Percas. I just would like to say also I'm very impressed by George.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And Marina, why don't you one day run for politics or a council member instead of just criticising everybody who has a different point of view to you who sits beside you? It's kind of a bit bullish, really. Let the young guy speak. Well, let Marina respond to that. Okay. Nancy, I have a full-time job. I have two kids. I can't fit in doing a political career as well right now.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I might do it later. I'm sure everybody who's gone into politics has a full-time job and a family. But they feel passionately. I will. If I want to criticise people from the outside, I will, Nancy. Thank you very much. But you live in your little bubble, Marina. Why do you think I live in a bubble?
Starting point is 01:23:30 Why do you think I live in a bubble? Well, because you have your podcast with your co-home. Right. And you just only hear what you. you want to hear. Okay, so I, so excuse me, excuse me, Nancy, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, you don't know anything about me, excuse me, you don't know anything about me. I am, Nancy, wait, wait, wait, wait, I am, I was born,
Starting point is 01:23:51 I was born to immigrant parents. Oh, I love you, Nancy, keep going, keep going, watch. Why are you suggesting I live in a bubble? I fight for inequality because I see, I know, understand what it feels like. And anybody who's ever on the panel with you, who's against you, in your opinion, who has a different opinion of you. You don't sit back and relax and think, oh, maybe they've got a point.
Starting point is 01:24:14 It's just you talk over them. She does get fired up, but I think being fired up is good, isn't it, Nancy? I find it very difficult when I'm up against people. All right, Nancy. I find it very difficult when I'm up against people who are going to use their positions of power and influence to make things harder for people who are already struggling.
Starting point is 01:24:30 That's what I buy for. Marina's meltdown didn't go unnoticed despite Channel Fires dwindling viewing figures with Claire Fox. posting on X. Cawlan Ansi did well here, but ironically, Marina proved her point by talking over the caller and acting in a haughty, unpleasant way in response to criticism. Grifty added conference league wag Marina Perkis gets called out by a caller for living in her bubble who made the sour-faced troll lose it while Jeremy scrambled to defend her. And indeed, Bev Turner of G.
Starting point is 01:25:01 news used the whole situation to have a real pop at the Jeremy Vine show overall, writing, I was laughed at, ridiculed and called irresponsible by Jeremy Vine for looking at the evidence on Ivermecton. But that's okay. He's still in flowery shirts on daytime TV. I now live in D.C. and talk to the most powerful people in the world, including the president of the United States on his personal mobile phone. It's all good. I feel no hate. Karma always. wins to the superstar panel, Nick Tenconi, Henry Bolton and Kelly J. King. Kelly J. Why is it that these women on the left like Marina Perkis are just so damn, nasty and unpleasant? Well, because that's her job, isn't it? She gets paid to say stupid things on the television and it's lucrative.
Starting point is 01:25:58 I think, I don't know who's worse out of her and Narinda. but they are both equally as sneering and irritating and wrong. I mean, just ultimately wrong on every single take. And her idea about talking about the reform candidate, I just think we all know people in the trades, right? We all know actual men that say slightly sexist or off-color kind of jokes. It doesn't mean that they're actually. It doesn't really mean that he thinks those things.
Starting point is 01:26:34 It means that it's a funny thing to say at a specific moment in time. I think we're all a bit kind of more lighthearted about stuff like that. We don't really care. We just want someone to come in and make sure that they've done these jobs so that when they're talking about people doing those jobs and the standard of living and the quality of life that people can have, they've got a bit more insight into what is possible and achievable and what actually makes people's lives very difficult.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Totally. And Henry Bolton, I've always been, look, George Finch seems like such a nice guy. And I have giggled when I've seen some of the videos sort of taking the Mickey out of him and saying, oh, he's a bit like Ricky Jervais. But actually, shouldn't someone like him be celebrated? You know, a 19 year old kid who has just said, I want to devote all of my life to try and to turn around the country. Now, my personal view is, of course, it's a bit better to go out and get some life experience. then you enter the political domain. But he's hardly a figure of hate. And I think compare him to the horrible young lefties that we see, the mates of Marina Perkins, and we should want George Finchers running this country any day. I agree. And absolutely, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:49 I totally agree that we should have experience people with a bit of life behind them in politics. So they've got the wherewithal, not just politics, policing and all sorts of things. education, for example, teachers, I don't believe that teachers should go straight into the teaching profession from school to university to teaching. I just think that's wrong. But I don't think it helps anybody. But nonetheless, I mean, hats off to him. You know, he's put himself forward. He's there. He's in one hell of a responsible position. He's got the guts to do it and the character to do it. And I wish the man all the very best of luck, not just for the sake of the people that he's serving, but also for himself. I hope it goes very well for him.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And as for Marina, well, arrogant, sneering, thoroughly dislikable. She's talking about Robert Kenyon up in Makerfield. Look, I don't know Robert. I'm not enamored by his comments. I don't think it reflects well on him. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:28:49 It's not up to Marina to judge him. It's up to the people of Makerfield at the ballot box to judge him. And they will do. They will judge all the candidates. And that's how democracy works. And if she's got a problem, Well, look, everybody's seen these messages and so on, you know, that people will be able to decide.
Starting point is 01:29:05 So, you know, she just needs to get back into a box. I think it's, yes, you know, it's clickbait. And Kelly J is quite right. You know, it probably brings her in a bit of coin. Well, she's serving herself. She's not serving the British people or the people of Makerfield or all the people of the country by her attitude. It just stirs animosity, aggression, nastiness in politics. and we've got more than enough of that already.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And Nick Tenconi, your organisation Turning Point UK has really been part of this grassroots movement of young men like George Finch who are absolutely sick of what they see happening to their country, what they see happening in their schools, what they see happening in their universities. And I want to see young men like George Finch actually not just give up, not just move to do.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Dubai. And by the way, I'm not criticizing the people who do because I understand it, but I want to see them stay here and fight. And he's fighting through the democratic process. Why on earth does she hate him so much? Yeah, certainly. So massive respect and just a huge smile seeing, as you rightly point out, my leadership under our fantastic chief executive officer, Jack Ross at Turning Point, street level for coming up to five years now with university students. And obviously we launched the in honour of Charlie God rest of soul's memory, the prove me wrong debate stands at university. So on the front line consistently engaging with young people,
Starting point is 01:30:41 both men and women. And how wonderful to see that in that spark, whether they're big chaps like George and the rugby players or the petite young conservative girls. Just God bless them. They've got the courage to stand up to anti-womeness. white hatred, anti-white bias, critical race theory, black lives matter, intersectionality, the fact that the suggestion is that you can swap genders or you can swap sexes and all this
Starting point is 01:31:05 other absolute nonsense. So Marina, she exists. We must understand the wickedness. She exists showcase to eligible bachelors what not to marry, what not to have children with. So good always comes out of bad. She exists. The mindset of a woman like that, the anger, the head.
Starting point is 01:31:26 hatred, the spite, her currency is spite. But it's narcissism, Dan. And that stems from, obviously, individualism and pride. And as you know, the word I'm about to use, godlessness. That, God bless that woman for her existence, because it shows to every eligible bachelor what not to marry and want not to have children with, because she is a woman who is filled with anger. And that stems from pride, that stems from narcissism. And of course, left, as I said, in my speech outside Southampton, cop shop the other night. All of this that we're fighting against stems from left-wing ideology,
Starting point is 01:32:01 left-wing hatred, left-wing bigotry, left-wing racism, left-wing division. That's my forecast, I stand by it. Absolutely. Well, look, do stand by, you three, because we're about to reveal today's greatest Britain and Junio and Jackass. But first, I just want to get to some of the superchats
Starting point is 01:32:16 that have been coming in during the show. Thank you so much for the superchats. Hammers, Mikey, simply says justice for Henry, absolutely. Avatar, who's number one, Today, congratulations, Avatar. Says anything that happens to the police at this point, they only have themselves to blame.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Violence or not. I don't condone it, but they've done it to themselves. If the police, F-Kare, the traitor, Stama. Melissa, who's been an outspoken member here on YouTube for six months, is first time catching a live show, love from New Orleans, come on the UK, straighten up and fly right. We believe in all of you.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Thank you. We need support from Patriots in America. Jason Trips is Stama Express. shock and anger about Floyd in 2020. Khan said rightly ignited fury and understood the depth of anger, yet for Henry, no anger or fury. Becker 2908, Liam's Army of Angels says, Dan, do you remember under the fentanyl Floyd protest? Carmelah Harris said she would pay bail for all the protesters' child.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah, I do. That was a ridiculous line, wasn't it? Paolo Dalti, 1981, says we cannot rely on the government or the police to protect us. we are our own first responders. Give us back the right to defend ourselves. Chava to UK says Rupert has shown he will do what he says in reference to Rupert Lowe. Nigel Farage is showing he goes back on his word. That truly matters.
Starting point is 01:33:42 And Scotty of John 56 simply says, and I couldn't agree more, alongside pictures of two candles, never forget Henry Novak. A reminder of your union jackass nominees, Nick Tenconi went for Olivia Pinkney, who implemented Alison Haydari's race action plan at Hampshire Constabulary Plan created due to the death of George Floyd. Kelly J. Keane went for Kirstama for saying there is no two-tier policing, and Henry Bolton went for Pat McFadden for telling Peter Mandelson, every meeting I have is who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others.
Starting point is 01:34:17 I don't know if you'll be surprised by this result, but it wasn't close. McFadden in third place with 3% of the vote. Olivia Pinkney, the runner up with 4% of the vote. 94% of you agreeing with Kelly J Keene, our winner today who went for Slipfrey Stama. Are you very well done, Kelly? But it was an obvious win. It was an obvious win. Nick Tenconi is going to nominate our greatest Britain today.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Oh, very kind of you, Dan. Thank you. Yeah, well, it's an honour. absolutely. Henry Novak, God rest his soul. So we won't say anything more. Just thoughts and prayers with the family. Henry Novak, again, is another, he's a martyr. He is. He's another martyr. He's another victim to anti-white hatred, anti-conservative bias, guys. I just have to emphasize that as well. I just have to emphasize that. The teachings of D-I-E, C-R-T, intersectionality, stands against traditionalism and against conservatism.
Starting point is 01:35:27 This is the fight that we are in. It's between good and bad. It's between communism and conservatism. And Henry is now in my eyes a martyr because another life has been lost, which is the ultimate, at the risk of getting biblical, it's the ultimate sacrifice, sacrificial love, so that we might wake up,
Starting point is 01:35:49 so that we might be better, so that we might do better, because the dead remember our indifference and they remember our silence. Very, very well put, Nick Tenconi. Thank you so much. Thank you for your incredible speech at the Henry Novak vigil yesterday.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Nick Tenconi is, of course, the leader of UKIP, Kelly J Kean, a fabulous activist who attended that Henry Novak protest outside Southampton Police Station. Thank you so much for being here. And Henry Bolton, Now we learn today, officially, a member of Restore Britain. I'm sure he will be quite a big force, actually, within Restore Britain.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Thank you so much to all of you. Thank you too for Ben Habib, the Advance UK leader who joined us earlier in the show. We're heading over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled After Show. Big news on that front between Catherine, the Princess of Wales and Magna Markle. According to Taz Royal, YouTube sensation is standing by. We'll head over to Substack to do that at www. outspoken. But we will be back here live tomorrow
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