Dan Wootton Outspoken - COUP AGAINST SLIPPERY STARMER AS HE SPARKS FURY WITH ESTRANGED WIFE LADY V & SECRET FAMILY

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

BREAKING TODAY: Fury that Slippery Starmer – the dead man walking Prime Minister whose closest allies are jockeying for position as a lengthy coup at Westminster is underway – has dragged his secr...et family in a last ditch bid to save his political career. And this time it’s not just the understandably miserable Lady Victoria Starmer, who has spent months at a time not on speaking terms with her husband, but now his son too, who Two Tier Keir has for years insisted he wants to keep private. But it’s too late, with Islamist Shabana Mahmood and hard leftist Andy Burnham both publicly launching leadership campaigns today, even though they can’t actually say so. Perhaps even more significant is that Starmer has now lost his biggest cheerleaders in the MSM: The Fake News Agents. Indeed, all the regime media cretins have left is to brand us all racist, as James O’Brien and Woke ITV News have managed to do over the past 24 hours. In his Digest, Dan explains how the long painful end of Slippery Starmer mirrors the decline of our Disunited Kingdom. Then the Superstar Panel weigh in: Father Calvin Robinson, the co-host of Fox and Father on Reclaim the Media, and Richard Taylor, co-host of Saints and Sinners and the leader of Advance UK in Wales. PLUS: Piggy Emily Maitlis and Piggy Shelagh Fogarty accuse Donald Trump of being “medieval” because of his jibes against the MSM, who call him a Nazi on an almost daily basis. AND: Lucy Connolly storms Westminster – we’ll bring you the free speech prisoner’s exclusive interview with Rupert Lowe. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle’s epic own goal, as her car crash Harpers Bazaar cover reveals that she has staff announce her as the Duchess of Sussex in private New York homes while she unveils another awkward PDA with her troubled husband Prince Harry. For all the royal latest we’re joined by Tom Sykes, who is behind the brilliant Substack the Royalist. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spit, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 365. And breaking today, Fury, that slippery Stummer, the dead man walking prime minister whose closest allies are jockeying for position as a lengthy coup at Westminster is already underway, has dragged his secret family in a last ditch bid to save his political career. And this time, it's not just the understandably miserable Lady Victoria Stama who has spent much. months at a time not on speaking terms with her corrupted husband, but now his son too, who Tutea Keir has four years insisted he wants to be kept private. I didn't have a very close relationship with my own dad. He and I never really spoke. We never really got to know each other. I remember when we watched adolescence together.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And as a dad, I was tough to see at times. But it's too late. It's too late to save him with Islamist Shavana MacMood and hard lefters Andy Burnham, both publicly launching leadership campaigns today, even though they can't actually say so. Do you give up your seat, then? It's a question I've asked myself, and I'd have to obviously consult with my wife as well on family, but you know what? You know, if I'm going to sit here and say, you know, country before party, party before personal ambition, then yes, I have to say yes, don't I?
Starting point is 00:01:28 I would say, though, to the government, the biggest risk to greater Manchester's growth in the next decade is the lack of commitment to big infrastructure. There are particular issues in politics, and Gaza, I think, has played out in its own difficult way, particularly for the Labour Party. Perhaps even more significant, Stama has now lost his biggest cheerleaders in the MSM,
Starting point is 00:01:50 the fake news agents. Stama has become so reviled in the country, and he has become reviled in the country. He is now the most unpopular prime minister. on record since modern polling began in 1977. Not just that things have gone badly for Kirstama, but this is authored a lot of it by Kirstama himself. Indeed, the only thing the Raging Media Cretans have left
Starting point is 00:02:12 is to brand us all racist, as James O'Brien and Wokai TV News have managed to do over the past 24 hours. The problem is that everybody telling opinion pollsters that they're minded to vote for Farage is comfortable with racism. That's just, I mean, an observable fact. Disatisfied with the politics surrounding small boats, some are taking matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah? F*** you. F*** you. That's what I say. This is the leader of UKIP, Nick Tancone, on a visit to Calais. In my digest next, how the long, painful end of slippery storm of the dead man walking mirrors the decline of our disunited kingdom.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Then, the superstar panel weigh in. Father Calvin Robinson, the co-host of Fox and Father on Reclaim the Media, and Richard Taylor, co-host of Saints and Sinners and the Leader of Advance UK in Wales. Also coming up on the show today, Piggy Emily Maitliss and Piggy Shell of Foggedy. What are they going to do about it? Accused Donald Trump of being medieval because of his drives against the MSM. The MSM, by the way, he'd call him a Nazi on an almost daily basis. Amon Holmes loses it with GB News bosses on air as the channel has plunged into a fresh crisis
Starting point is 00:03:29 and Lucy Connolly storms Westminster. I cannot wait for this. We will bring you the free speech prisoners exclusive interview with Rupert Lowe. Now by the way, some of you may be wondering, Dan, why are you not covering the COVID inquiry? Let me tell you why. Okay? And I've posted on this in the past hour. This inquiry was a 227 million-pound joke. I am disgusted by it. But there's no good covering it because these questions have learned absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Do you know they are seriously trying to tell us that if we'd locked down, just one week earlier, everything would have been okay. I mean, oh, look, at the end of the day, if these idiots have still not realized that the lockdowns and the taking away of our civil liberties and the forced vaccination program was not the reason that this country is screwed and if they've not realized that it wasn't part of a bigger globalist plot, then there's no point.
Starting point is 00:04:36 So this inquiry is a joke, I refuse to give it any credence. After the main show, though, we are going to have the uncanceled after show on Substack, our royal show where Megan Mark was epicone goal. as her car crash Harper's Bazaar cover reveals that her staff announced her as the Duchess of Sussex in private New York homes as she unveils another awkward PDA with her troubled husband, Prince Harry. So for all of the Royalators, today we are joined by the brilliant Tom Sykes, who is behind the substack, the Royalist.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He's also European editor at large at the Daily Beast. We'll also be revealing the last Greatest Britain and Union Jackass of the week. here are your nominees today. You can get voting on the live chat on YouTube. Rachel Willwood nominated by Bob Dishy. That's the deputy leader of the Greens and it's for her refugees a welcome line, but not in the barracks in her own constituency. Nimby, John Swinney, nominated by Protect Right for his continuing fight against women's rights and support of a few autistic or pervert men in bad wigs, and Chris Packham, nominated by Snow Ed 659 for smugly groaning on about the wonders of the BBC. Could it be that they pay his wages? I think that's a pretty good bet.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And of course, at the end of today's show, we are going to open the vote with all of our union jackasses across the week to find the worst Britain in the world this week. So stay with us today. I will announce the winner. Read out your comments at the end of today's show. But now, let's go. So Slippery Stama is now a dead man walking as the left pool support. The regime media has turned, even his propagandist at the fake news agents are gone. And his former closest political allies from where streeting to Shabana Mahmood to Ed Miliband have even launched leadership campaigns even in the open, even though they can't actually call them leadership campaigns. That's in a bit, of course, to stop the even further left, Andy Burnham and Angela
Starting point is 00:06:48 Rainer. As Lee Harris revealed, hearing there is a reasonable possibility, Kirstarmer, will be gone by Christmas. Literally everyone hates them, including the Labour Party, worst Prime Minister in history. So any decent human being would realise the game is now up and go. Go, Stama. Before you destroy this country any further. Go, Stama. Before you destroy this country any further. Go Stama. Before you dream. drag your own party to extinction. But as we have known, since he turned up that day after the Southport massacre for a photo shoot and refused to talk to the victim's friends and family, there is nothing decent about Sir Keir Stummer. So in the last throw of the dice, he is now dragging his unhappy family into the spotlight.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Now, this is not going to work, but it is particularly despicable. and egregious given his previous public posturing on this issue. But have you noticed that when Stama is in major political trouble, he blames his teenage son? He did so last year. Over the bizarre decision for Lord Ali to lend him his Mayfair penthouse, do you remember this? Stama said it was for his son's GCSE revision.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Toot Air Care had panicked and the regime media swallowed his lies. And they were lies. Because what was actually going on was a huge split in his marriage over the true identity of Kea Stama's family. I have been the only journalist that has kept on this story about Stama's secret family, of which he has never been honest. And one of the reasons that he has got away with this, of course, is because he talks about the fact that he wants to keep his family secret and private. That's before we even come to his troubled marriage to a truly miserable Lady Victoria Stammer. I actually feel sorry for this woman. I mean, she has aged a decade in the past year, has been estranged from her husband for long stints
Starting point is 00:08:56 during the miserable past 18 months at No. 10 Downing Street, furious about her husband's lie. So imagine her rage today. When fighting for his political life, Stama has just, thrust his son, once again, a teenager who he has never publicly named or allowed to be pictured into the centre of this toxic political debate to try and save his own skin. It really happened. Watch, this is Stama on Instagram. I didn't have a very close relationship with my own dad. He and I never really spoke. We never really got to know each other. And I was determined that my relationship with you was going to
Starting point is 00:09:40 be different. No, it's not easy growing up in this day and age. I know there are pressures on young men that are difficult to talk about and questions that, frankly, are difficult to answer. Questions about mental health, masculinity, social media. I remember when we watched adolescence together. And as a dad, I was tough to see at times. The reason I do the I do and I know that means huge sacrifices for you, for your sister and your mum. It's because I want the world for tomorrow's generation to be better. When I was younger I often had a voice in the back of my head that told me I wasn't good enough or right for certain things. I wonder how the rest of your secret family feel about that video.
Starting point is 00:10:39 you absolute cretan! As Mike Graham raged, what an absolute car crash of a man trying to salvage his career by using his kids a total and utter will you work out the rest? But none of this is going to work. Even though the fools in the raging media who gave us this globalist droid to destroy Britain, a project which will come to completion in next week's devastating tax-raising budget,
Starting point is 00:11:08 have now accepted the inevitable. With even the propagandists at the fake news agents, now pulling the plug on the man who for years they assured us would save Britain. It's about his poll ratings. They are catastrophically bad. I mean, genuinely catastrophically bad. We've talked on this show before about the slight curiosity in a way of why Stama has become so reviled in the country,
Starting point is 00:11:35 and he has become reviled in the country. He is now the most unpopular prime minister on record since modern polling began in 1977. That includes all of the litany of catastrophic prime ministers that we had in recent years, even at their nadir. And the feeling and concern is among Labour MPs is that Stama may be irreparably damaging, not just himself, but the Labour brand overall. And the sense of utter despair, and I think a degree, of anger, not just that things have gone badly for Kirstama, but this is authored a lot of it by Kirstama himself. It's not just that the events of politics have conspired to make life difficult for him. It is that the ineptness, the unforgivability of so much of what has
Starting point is 00:12:25 gone on from the Downing Street operation. Yes, but this is on you, Soapel. This is on you, Goodall. And now the vultures are circulating as the country is led to the mortifying position of a silent coup playing out publicly in real time. The gun was fired for Andy Burnham on the British bashing corporation by Labour MP Clive Lewis yesterday. I mean, Clive, isn't that the point here? You're not in opposition anymore. You're in government and having a leadership contest while you're in government. And whoever comes in, whoever came in next, and this is speculation.
Starting point is 00:13:05 But democratically, we saw that with the Conservatives. The democratic legitimacy of the person that comes in next after the person, after Boris Johnson, is reduced. I mean, it was a list of trust. Because they haven't won an election. It becomes difficult. I know exactly the problems that we face, but I think Sonia's correct. It seems, I don't, we're in a quandary. It feels like we're in Czech-May, and I don't, it's hard to see a way out of it. Is Andy Burnham up for this? You have to ask Andy Burnham. Have you spoken to him?
Starting point is 00:13:32 I have spoken to Andy Burnham, yeah. But you, yeah, I'm not sure if he wants to move to Norwich. but would you give up your seat, then? It's a question I've asked myself, and I'd have to obviously consult with my wife as well on family, but you know what? If I'm going to sit here and say, you know, country before party, party before personal ambition,
Starting point is 00:13:51 then yes, I have to say yes, don't I? You'd give up your seat for Andy Burnham? I would, yeah. Well, okay, we'll get him on the phone. That was followed up by Burnham himself this morning, also on the BBC. It's an interesting point you made in your last answer, which is that what you can achieve,
Starting point is 00:14:07 here is dependent on what happens across the rest of the country, the decisions that are made nationally by the UK government. Do you think the UK government's decision-making currently is going to help or hinder your plans for Manchester? Well, they're helping us in so many ways. We have a different financial arrangement now with Whitehall, which means we've got the bedrock to borrow and put forward this prudent plan. Also, we've got devolution arrangements that go beyond what other places have got, and we're using those well. What I would say, though, to the government,
Starting point is 00:14:41 the biggest risk to greater Manchester's growth in the next decade is the lack of commitment to big infrastructure. In fact, they're all out now. They're all out because, as I say, this coup is playing out in real time, including Wes Streety making a snide attempt at loyalty on LBC while pushing his own bid.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Your colleague, Clive Lewis, is saying this afternoon they might be happy to give up his seat in order to allow Andy Burnham to stand in it. Would you welcome Andy Burnham back to... I've got a lot of time for Andy and I think we need our best players on the pitch and whether he's doing that as Mayor of Greater Manchester or whether he wants to come back into Parliament
Starting point is 00:15:17 and the next general election. That is an issue for Andy. I think it's a bit of a peculiar thing for Clive to have said to his own constituents. I'm not interested in being your MP. I'm happy to do a deal with someone. I would just say from personal experience, don't take your voters for granted.
Starting point is 00:15:34 In all seriousness, I felt particularly last week, but it's true generally, we spend a bit too much time on this personality politics stuff and who's up, who's down. What people really care about is, are they better off? Leave the personality stuff one to one side. People put a lot of trust in us in the last election. We've got to repay that trust through real results. Clive Lewis responded as the Labor Civil War grows, writing, of course he finds it peculiar, self-sacrifice, hypocritical or hypothetical or not, is foreign to the self-serving. I love my city and my constituents, but the authoritarian right is an existential threat. We need the best chance of turning this around. That's Andy, not Wes. But of course, the most ambitious of them all remains Shabana Mahmood,
Starting point is 00:16:16 who is determined to become the UK's first Islamist Prime Minister as part of a Muslim takeover of our politics, which she has been plotting with her close friend, Sidney Khan, for years. You almost lost your seat in the general election. A number of your colleagues did lose their seats to pro-Gaza candidates, anti-Israel candidates. And you, as we discussed last time you were on, you and your family had the most extraordinary level of abuse. For someone born in the community you represent, living in the community you represent, living next door to your parents, your father was chairman of the Labour Party in Birmingham. Nevertheless, I think I'm right and saying you were branded an infidel, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:16:57 I was. It's not the first, I mean, over 15 years of political life. I've been branded many things and infidel amongst them on a number of occasions. What I would say is it's still not right or fair to malign an entire community as if they are all extremists or intolerant. I think there are particular issues in politics and Gaza, I think, has played out in its own difficult way, particularly for the Labour Party as well. but there were just as many, you know, people in my own community who were also assisting me and supporting me through that difficult time. And many people who still disagree with me politically who would say it's crossing a line to start calling somebody else an infidel. Indeed, MacMood's campaign is now such an open secret in Westminster.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It prompted this dig from Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp in the House today. I wonder if this burst of hyperactivity has anything to do with her leadership bid, But as her shadow, I will say this. I am rooting for her. I am rooting for her in her tussle with the health secretary as to who gets to replace the Prime Minister. Although I fear my endorsement may not be entirely helpful with her colleagues on her side of the House.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And what's so awful for our country is that all of these questions are moving even further to the left, because they know that the next Prime Minister will be decided by the hard left of the Labour Party. So, MacMood responded by laying out her left-wing credentials in Parliament, which again, and listen carefully to her, involve advocating for our country to continue to change beyond all recognition. And by the way, if you have a problem with that, that horrible woman is going to slam you as being a little Englander. I and so many others like me are patriots.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Mine is a love of a country that is forever changing, while something essential about us always endures. It is a patriotism that finds room for those who trace their roots back many generations and those who, like me, do not. But I worry that this broad patriotism is for some narrowing, and that a vision of a greater Britain is giving way to that of a littler England, as anger turns to hate. Some will choose to scorn this analysis. They would rather we simply wished it away. But those who look like me do not have that luxury. Our lives and the lives of our families are more dangerous in a country that turns inwards.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So we have no choice but to ask, what is the cause of our division? So all this mob have lived now, it's very obvious, is to attack patriots who want to preserve our culture as racist. The problem is that everybody telling opinion pollsters that they're minded to vote for Farage is comfortable with racism. That's just, I mean, an observable fact. Have a look at what he says about people who speak foreign
Starting point is 00:20:12 without mentioning that his own children do. Have a look at what he says about children in school who've got English as a second language without mentioning that his own children do. Have a look at what he says about foreigners in general, shifting effortlessly from Romanians to some other unidentified ethnicity and who we wouldn't want to live next door to. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:20:33 You've got high numbers at the moment who are supremely comfortable with racism, some of whom would even go and march to the tune of a convicted fraudster who literally came perilously close to ruining the trial of grooming gang members while pretending that he's dedicated his whole life to trying to bring them to justice. How do you know the difference between someone who is, if you like, a victim of
Starting point is 00:20:58 the rhetoric, the propaganda, the discourse, the conversation and someone who hates black people or hates brown people who hates all Muslims? How do you tell the difference? Shabana Mahmood thinks that this policy will almost point out the difference for us. So you heard that, right? You heard what he was saying there.
Starting point is 00:21:17 if you were one of the well over one million people who attended Unite the Kingdom, like I did, you're racist, according to James O'Brien. This is all they have left. But the thing about the mood, which I've been documenting for the past month, is that the right are actually being suckered by her. I mean, look at this softball feature from the Daily Telegraph today, which writes, The Rise of Shabana Mahmood. Against a backdrop of Labour leadership plots, the political star has emerged, commanding and passionate.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Everything Shabana, everything Starma is not. There was some interesting extracts from this pro-Mamud feature. It writes that she trained for the cut and thrust of Westminster in the living room off her parents' end of Terrace House in Birmingham. In the early noughties, Labour Party campaigners would gather over a plate of Samosas at the home of Mahmoud and Zabaya Ahmed, the Kashmari couple emigrated from Pakistan and largely raised their four children in small heath, except for a seven-year stint in Saudi Arabia shortly after Mahmoud was born, where her father worked as a civil engineer. Her faith is central. It grounds me in life, and it's where I draw my sense of duty and public service from, she told Michael Gove,
Starting point is 00:22:39 in an interview with The Spectator. My understanding of Islam, how I have practiced Islam, my whole life, has been about viewing life as a gift from God, but it's also a test from God. The things I have been blessed with and privileged to have, like a great education, being British, being in this country, having the freedoms that I have there, it's a test. I have to earn it and prove I use it for good and show that I'm worthy of it. Macmood is not married and doesn't have a partner. It doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to presume the job has been her focus. in the last year people have really noticed her ability to do vast amounts of work very much like her dad part of the reason she's such a successful minister as she works longer hours than anyone
Starting point is 00:23:22 I know she's in earlier she works later and that's how you get things done in Westminster or I would argue that's how you get things done when you're attempting an Islamist revolution of the United Kingdom but the regime media remains focused on to ride in anyone who dares question mass immigration, with woke ITV news attempting to make victims of the criminals breaking into our country via the channel, the real people who are in bad place. It is vital they are received and understood among those risking everything
Starting point is 00:23:55 by wanting to cross a channel in small boats. We went to find out if they were listening. This is the front line of Britain's migrant crisis. Where the hustle for food. food. And the huddle for warmth is getting more desperate in northern France as winter draws in. And these people prepare themselves and wait for the weather to change to make the next stage of their journey. You came together, you traveled together.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Shahab is a movie actor from Iran and has been in France for a month. Why don't you stay in France? Why the UK? safety. UK safety for me. What happened to your leg? The police broke it. So the French police injured you? Yes. The fear of staying is often greater than the fear of leaving for many of those on the long march to England.
Starting point is 00:24:56 We know England is a better place to live. We want to live like just normal person. I have a normal life. Just make England proud. Yes, this is my mother. Warshin introduced me to his mum. introduce me to his mum, his dad and 10-year-old brother. They arrived from Iran two days ago.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Why don't you stay in France? It's easier to understand English to learn English, and we have relatives and friends in England. I mean, can you deal with the mental arithmetic here? Woke ITV News now trying to paint France as an unsafe country in order to justify these criminals, they are all criminals, entering our country illegally. They then use this special report to turn on the year.
Starting point is 00:25:37 UKIP leader Nick Tenconi, watch. Despite the bleakness of their situation, they remain undeterred. Today, the government in the UK are announcing changes to the rules to make it harder for people like you to get to the UK. Does that change your mind? Yes, I know, but I don't care because I'm just going for work here. You're not coming. You like that.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Disatisfied with the politics surrounding small boats, are taking matters into their own hands. Yeah? F*** you. Fuck you. That's what I say. This is the leader of UKIP, Nick Tenconi, on a visit to Calais. And charities say visits by our UK far right groups are increasing here.
Starting point is 00:26:23 We are afraid for the people. They face police violence. They face hopeful living conditions. And then there is also like the threat of a violent attack from the far right. They have so threatened against our teams, against NGOs on the ground here in Calais and Dunker. The hostilities that come with this life are most definitely growing. Danger coming from all different directions as they cling to a plan. Today's politics hasn't thrown that off course.
Starting point is 00:27:00 They count down until their next attempt. They're literally taking the piss out of us, aren't they? Danger, they're talking about the danger. to those people. Okay, Wokai TV. The reality is that the danger is to us with the vast majority of those coming over, not the children. That is just a fact. So in your report, you're using the children as political cover. But the danger is the young males who come over illegally, a given leave to remain, and then stab Paul Wayne Broadhurst to death in the streets of West London. Now, Nick Tenconi of UKIP responded to that report. Note that they described him as far right.
Starting point is 00:27:42 He said ITV News gave me 10 o'clock news headlines and deliberately tried to smear me and my team by showing an out-of-context clip, a clip where I responded to a horde of masked migrant thugs hurling abuse at me, which also referenced my family. The report by leftist Lucy Watson is as biased as it gets, deliberately lying and deceiving the public, about the fighting age Muslim males heading to Britain. She ensured she got the term far right in as often as possible while speaking with far-left extremists in an effort to legitimise their pro-trafficking behaviour. ITV News did not contact me for a comment. The propaganda continues, but we will not be stopped.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And I have to say that's what's so depressing about Reform UK, so often be giving in, really, giving in to this nonsense. And the latest example is a hit job from the game. Guardian newspaper over a WhatsApp group, yes, a WhatsApp group. And they write, a Reform UK councillor suspended over this group featuring extremist posts in which one participant allegedly called for mass Islam genocide. Now, this is Tom Pickett, who was elected to Lancashire County Council in May, and he confirmed to the Guardian he was a member of the group, set up by a right-wing activist. The Guardian reports in one exchange, one person said, Kirstama needs a fucking
Starting point is 00:29:03 bullet, to which another replied he's a dictator as a D-I-C-K. Pickett responded by calling the Prime Minister a dick-taker. Sorry, you've got to laugh. Sometimes you have to laugh. In other messages, he called a government minister, sorry, a Ukrainian boy penetrator, and said he agreed with mass deportations. He posted everyone in reformers a lot more hardline on immigration than is typically stated publicly to get a majority government.
Starting point is 00:29:32 we have to be tactical. Now seriously, reform. You don't end someone's career over a joke in a WhatsApp group. But Nigel Farage's party confirmed to the Guardian that Pickup has been suspended pending an investigation. Pickup, who was the council's lead member for resources and finances, admitted he was a member of the group, but said the messages had been twisted out of context. He said he was not aware of the more extreme posts, which included one person, personally calling for a mass of Islam genocide and encouraging others to stockpile weapons and to attack lefties and migrants. Pickup said his comments about Stama being a dictator, were a joky comment but had been poor judgment. He told The Guardian 99% of what occurs in groups
Starting point is 00:30:17 I don't see based on my involvement in it and what I have seen, I've been my usual jokey self and it's been twisted out of context. I mean, come on. So what? We're now canceling people based on what someone else said in a WhatsApp group. I don't know about you. I'm in loads of WhatsApp groups. With loads of good people, I shouldn't be responsible for what's said in those groups, though. That is ludicrous. And reform need to stop giving into this. Just remember, in this case, they are actually capitulating to the same newspaper,
Starting point is 00:30:48 which is on a campaign to convince us that Nigel Farage himself is a Nazi. Now, the superstar panel. Richard Taylor and Father Calvin Robinson with me. So Father Calvin, I want to kick off with Slippery Stama here. You know I have been on this story about the true shape of Stama's family, about what is really going on in his marriage for a long time. And I have been Father Calvin, not for gossipy purposes, but it is so clearly relevant to his time in number 10,
Starting point is 00:31:24 which has been a disaster. Do you remember he lied about the penthouse? in Mayfair, which was loaned to him by Lord Ali. He claimed that it was for his son's GCSEs rather than any troubles in his own marriage because of his secret family. Now, because he's in deep, deep political do-do, he's all of a sudden thrusting his son out there with a letter, a private letter to his son being published on his new Instagram page. I mean, the front of that, Father Calvin, is quite something, is it not?
Starting point is 00:31:57 it was weird though as well wasn't it i don't know why he addressed a letter to his son publicly like you're a father speak to your son as you should be doing and it was the content of it was fair the content of it was fairly nice i mean it was a bit wet around the ears it was stuff like um when we had to watch adolescence together it was so hard like whatever but you know father talking to his son about the issues of the world is a good thing do that but don't do it in public that's that's weird and at the same time as having the secret family that no one's allowed to mention and the injunctions are out against, et cetera, and you're quite right that you're one of the only people
Starting point is 00:32:32 that's actually been talking about it. And it is a public interest matter. If our prime minister, if the lead politician of our country is living an immoral life or a secret life and two lives, then the people deserve to know about it because he's clearly an untrustworthy person.
Starting point is 00:32:48 These things do matter. You know, 10, maybe 20 years ago, someone would have to resign for something as awful as this. These days, they just shrug it off and ignore it. Or worse, a lot of a bad thing. it with their peers in the houses of parliament. Yeah. And I mean, Richard Taylor, what about the hypocrisy from the mainstream media here? I mean, there's, there can't be two different rules, although for them there is.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I mean, they literally cared about every damn woman that Boris Johnson was shagging, right, even though he was quite openly a bit of an adulterer and had been over many years. Now, I'm not excusing that or defending that, but they cared about that. Yet with Stama, they have gone along with his almost derailed. bid for privacy, which I believe has been done to conceal the true shape of his family, yet all of a sudden, when it suits him, he's talking in the most personal of terms about his own son. Yes, Dan, but we know the aim of mainstream media. We know that they never truly give us the full truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And the reality is
Starting point is 00:33:50 Kea Stama, in his premiership, has been an absolute disaster to this country, and it's evidenced in the fact that he's polling so badly, as you've shown in your digest tonight. And also, I would say that, you know, the country as a whole has lost complete confidence in this man because he couldn't lay down straight in bed. I mean, you know, from his manifesto pledges in July last year
Starting point is 00:34:11 to winning the election and so many things that he's renamed on, it's clear to the public and the sentiment and the mood around the country, even amongst his own Labour backbenchers and MPs, we've seen from Clive Lewis earlier talking about he would give his seat up for, Andy Burnham to potentially become the next leader of the Labour Party. There's clearly some undercurrents going on in the party. And I don't believe that Kia Starmer is fit to be the Prime Minister.
Starting point is 00:34:36 He's one of the worst prime ministers we've ever had. And that takes some beating, given Tony Blair's record in the 90s, when you consider the cost of living crisis that he's taken us into, the net zero madness, all of these things are on his watch. I don't understand how the man can sleep at night, given what he's done to this country. It's nothing worse than it's abominable. in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And, you know, as you've shown in your clips tonight, it's clear that even his own party have had enough of him. Even the left-wing media are no turning on him. You know your time is coming to an end when your own propaganda arms deciding to turn on you. And all I've got to say now is racist, racist, racist.
Starting point is 00:35:11 That's literally all they can say. But Father Calvin, I mean, this is now a huge reputational crisis for our country because it looks like Starma is going to dig his heels in. He gave a front-page interview to the mirror saying that he was going to be prime minister at the next election. Now, no one within his inner circle thinks that, Father Calvin, but we have the indignity of a country. And remember, Calvin, we are a country in trouble and we are going to be in deep trouble next week after the budget,
Starting point is 00:35:41 a week. Wednesday, no, it's this Wednesday, isn't it? What day are we today? Thursday. Yeah, it's Wednesday. You're usually here with me on Wednesday, Father Calvin, you will be back next Wednesday, but so we'll have the budget on Wednesday. And yet we have all of the people leading the country in the cabinet now not giving a damn about their brief because they're so determined to replace Stama as Prime Minister and they're having to battle the hard leftists who aren't in the cabinet, specifically Angela Rainer and Andy Burnham, the Greater Manchester Mayor, who are going to be able to be a lot more unleashed because they don't have collective cabinet responsibility. So this is a total mess. And how long are we expecting?
Starting point is 00:36:25 to allow this to play out? Yeah, it's unsustainable, isn't it? We can't have the government fighting itself when it should be trying to at least represent the country and lead the country. They are all gunning for the top drop. The top job isn't even available yet, but that's what they're concerned with.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And the longer they do this, the more untenable Kirstorma's position becomes. And so eventually he will be forced to resign because they're already having the leadership race around him, which is quite sad really, isn't it? But, you know, he's as disliked within his party as he is within the country. I think he's probably the most disliked prime minister
Starting point is 00:36:55 we've had in a long, long time. Yeah, and for very good reason. I mean, honestly, for me, I do put it down to that day after Southport Massacre. We were on air at the time, and we already had our doubts about this man. But there was actually an evil in his actions that day. To be at the scene of the Southport massacre, to have people who are literally saying, my friend's daughter was in that class, speak to us, talk to us, and he turned on his heels.
Starting point is 00:37:25 He walked away without speaking to any member of the public and he went to a party at number 10 Downing Street immediately after. And I think that says all we need to know about that man. The lefty lame stream media in the United Kingdom are losing it over Donald Trump. And this time it is in regards to some very specific comments that he made on board Air Force One to reporter who he didn't like, and in the Oval Office to reporter he didn't like. And do you know what? I think good on him. This was the seven seconds that has driven Emily Maitless and Sheila Foggetty completely mad.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah. He called the jury. He called the jury. as piggy. They call him a Nazi every day. He called them piggy. I mean, I think Emily Maitliss is a piggy. I think Sheila Fogarty is a piggy. I don't think it's anything to do with their looks. I think it's to do with their despicable attitude. But you can imagine the complete eruption that Maitlis and Foggity had a meeting of minds, if you can call it that, in the LBC studio. Quiet, quiet. Quiet, piggy. Quiet, piggie.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's so demeaning a word, isn't it? It's vile, isn't it? It's probably vile. And, you know, if you were going to be childish about this, you could say, well, it's a portly little fat pot that is aiming his criticism at another kettle, right? But I think it's more than that. I think it's that
Starting point is 00:39:22 he doesn't have the power of argument and so he just uses abuse and we've seen it time and again I can't imagine that happening here to you or me if we ask a question of a politician, can you? Do you know what? I mean, thank God they tend to be slight, I don't know whether it's more respectful or whether it's more articulate
Starting point is 00:39:42 but the truth is that Trump has to turn to nicknames or he has to turn to abuse and actually what it is fundamentally is it's silent He's, and he doesn't do it as much to the men. He tries to silence women. You're a terrible reporter yesterday, wasn't it? Yeah, and what it does is it basically makes you catch your breath and you pause and you don't then quite have the guts to go for it or to ask your question.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And everyone's looking at you and her name is now all over the media. It's all over the social media. That clip is everywhere. And it's essentially, I mean, you know, it's kind of medieval. Oh, yes, it's medieval, isn't it? Well, this is Catherine Lucy, aka Piggy. and I'm sure she's going to survive, right? And with Trump, I actually genuinely don't think it's at all sexist.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I've seen him go for male, lame stream media reporters just as badly. It just so happens that over the past couple of days, with female reporters who were asking the ludicrous questions like this from the Oval Office with an ABC reporter. Congress to release the Epstein files? Why not just do it now? No, it's not the question that I mind. It's your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter. It's the way you ask these questions. You start off with a man who's highly
Starting point is 00:41:03 respected, asking him a horrible, insubordinate, and just a terrible question. And you could even ask that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched. Somebody psyched you over at ABC. You're going to psych. You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter. As far as the Epstein files is, I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert. But I guess I turned out to be right. But you know who does have?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his island. many times I never did. Andrew Weissman are here. All these guys were friends of his. You don't even talk about those people. You just keep going on the Epstein files.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me, not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion that I talked about today. It's a hoax. Now, I just got a little report, and I put it in my pocket, of all the money that he's given to Democrats. He gave me none, zero, no money to me, but he gave money to Democrats. And people are wise to your hoax. And ABC's, your company, your crappy company is one of the perpetrators.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And I'll tell you something, I'll tell you something. So why not just signing it? I think the license should be taken away from ABC because your news is so fake and it's so wrong. Now, Ray or Braverman posted having seen Piggy Maitliss and Piggy Up, Piggy Up. Bogotty go mad. Emily, mateless, fuming over Trump calling a journalist Piggy, trust me. I could think of a lot worse to call her. Now look, Richard Taylor, okay? I'm not going to call you Piggy. It's not a nice term, obviously right. But I do find the moral outrage about this quite hilarious. When you think of everything they have called Donald Trump, Richard, for such a long time.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I mean, they have called him a rapist. He sued them. them for that because it was completely incorrect, right? Soothed Stephanopoulos at ABC. No wonder he bloody hates ABC. They called him a rapist. You know, they call him a racist, almost every day. They call him a Nazi. I mean, if he calls one mainstream media journalist Piggy, is it really headline news around the world? Now, I think it's a bit of fun. Absolutely. Look, I've been called a lot worse than Piggy. I can assure you've done from far right to a thud, to a snowflake, to woke, I've been called all kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:43:50 But, you know, when I watch that clip and seen it in the news, it just made me laugh. I mean, how pathetic is it that people are getting offended over hurdy words? At the end of the day, Trump has been the subject of so much hatred from the media, including ABC News, Fox News, CNN, BBC. I mean, hence the reason why he's suing the BBC, because as you know, they took some of his clip when he gave his speech during the election campaign, and they doctored it.
Starting point is 00:44:14 They changed it, the panorama series that they put. out. And as a result of that, of course, he's sued up for one billion, around 700 million pounds here in the UK. And I think he's got every right to be annoyed and every right to sue the BBC. I mean, if I have his deep pockets, I'd be doing the same. I mean, for goodness sake, it's not a huge international story that he told her to be quiet, Miss Piggy. I mean, you know, it's Trump after all. We're used to Trump. We know what he's like. You know, and I, for one, I'm a great fan of Donald Trump. He makes me laugh. Every day comes on. You don't know what he's going to say. If you're on his scriptwriter, it must be a an absolutely bloody nightmare. He must be sitting there thinking, please stay on script, Trump, please stay on script. Because we know he's not going to, but that's the beauty of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:44:54 But one thing you will get with him, he says what he means and he means what he says. And I like that in a leader. Yeah, I mean, Father Calvin Robinson, it's sort of part of his schick, isn't it? Although I know you're a very respectable man and you're not sort of into the put downs like that. But did you have any major issue with the piggy jib?
Starting point is 00:45:13 I didn't like the piggy jib. I think he was fair to say, be quiet. to call her a piggy was a bit uncouth. But the bigger problem here is the people like Emily Maitlis, who are literally sitting there being hypocrites. What did she call him? A portly something or other. And then she said it's vile, it's abusive, etc.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So if she is doing the exact same thing that she's accusing him of and doesn't even see it, that's the thing that gets me. I think he's better. I think Trump is better when he says you're a terrible reporter. Like, just be honest. And he's tired of these terrible reporters because they're always talking. him, they're always calling him names, they're always abusing him, and manipulating the truth.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I had it this week done. I had Unheard published an article attacking Professor James Orr, who is a very good man. They dragged me into it somehow and said that I was defrocked and tried to imply that I was a Nazi. And so I contacted Unheard, because we know, we know Freddy Sayers. We know that Unheard is owned by the same people that own GB News. I contacted Freddy Sayers and said, I was never defrocked. I temporarily lost my license, but I wasn't defrocked, which means you're no longer a priest and I'm not a Nazi. I did not throw a Nazi salute. Could you please correct this? He got back to me saying, oh, we didn't say that. What we said is the Guardian said that. We just reported what the Guardian had previously. Like this slimy, fake news, they lie and they
Starting point is 00:46:28 abuse the truth and they twist the narrative as best they can within the bounds of the law to attack people and discredit people. And like Trump, I'm sick of them, sick of the mainstream media. Father Calvin, was that this unheard article is reform going to Christian? It was. Can you imagine asking, is the Labour Party too Islamic or are the conservatives too Jewish? Be outrage, but in a Christian country, you can ask, is it going too Christian? It's absurd. Yeah, I saw that article and I was just so disgusted by the headline because it just shows you actually. So I didn't know that they dragged you into it too. How appalling. And what? Presumably, that's trying to say, oh, James Orr, very, very bad man
Starting point is 00:47:16 because he associates with Father Calvin Robinson and J.D. Vance. Was that the thrust? That's the gist of me, yeah. These far-right bigots who are Christian. How dare they be Christian in a Christian country? It's scandalous. And, of course, using fake news and terminology
Starting point is 00:47:33 like defrocked and Nazi when it's clearly wrong. And it's immoral of them to do so. And they know it, but they love it. And you ask them to stop and they don't. Breaking right now, new crisis at G.B. News as Amon Holmes goes on the attack against producers live on air, and in response, the channel's management, something they've done a lot, by the way, including to me,
Starting point is 00:47:57 decide to leak against their own star presenter. Seriously, when are they going to learn? Okay, so let me take you through the story because it's quite an odd one. So, do you remember last week, I didn't show you the pictures, they were just too grim. Peter Mandelson, vile, vile man, went for a pee-p in the street upon leaving George Osborne's house. They're all in it together, aren't they? All of the elite class were in it together. And was captured by a paparazzi. Now, when this story was being discussed on G.B. News, Amon Holmes had quite a personal take on it. Indeed, the Daily Mail described it as him issuing a heartbreaking health update live on air amid a string of struggles before being
Starting point is 00:48:48 cut off by GB News bosses. Now, GB News bosses have actually scrubbed that portion of the discussion from the internet. Channel of free speech, not if Aymann Holmes is questioning you live on air, but this is at least what happened at the start of that segment. Watch. I have to sympathise Lord Mandelson who a lot of people sympathise over many things was waiting for a taxi
Starting point is 00:49:16 and you know he had to relieve himself basically and somebody's taking a picture of it and they reckon he should be prosecuted a little before it right fine I understand that I understand you know people who go too far with that sort of thing but
Starting point is 00:49:28 what if you get to a certain age and you just when you got to go you got to go and there's nowhere to go with such a lack of public lose. Then you hold it. Well, you can't hold it. Obviously, you can't. I mean, he's got the stage where he couldn't hold it. I don't think that's
Starting point is 00:49:44 necessarily his fault and if he gets into a wee spot of Baba or whatever. Pardon the pun. Now, I'm not going to go into the details, but I know that this is a really, like, personal issue for Eamon, okay, who's had a whole load of health battles. And what happened after that moment, but as I say, G.B. News has now completely scrubbed the footage online.
Starting point is 00:50:03 But here's the retelling from the Daily Mail. Amon then admitted that bosses were telling him to swiftly move the breakfast discussion on and took a swipe at them for not viewing the topic with more nuance. He said, and as my producer says in my ear, the giveaway is next, but obviously not interested in this dilemma or how it relates to me identifying with it. Now, you'll remember, Eamon's health battles have been a serious issue for some time. And that really vile man, Stephen Dixon, another presenter at GB News, has used it to try and get the bosses to effectively move Eamon out the way and give him the main job. Those discussions came to a head after this incident earlier in the year when Eamon fell off his chair live on air.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And this is where, you know, I think reform will do very well, as they did with the Scunthorpe still work. So they came directly to say, that's there in area, government needs to step in, that's where nationalisation needs to come in. Oh, oh my gosh. Okay, forget it. Fine, fine, fine, fine, just carry on. And so, look, there's... you again, especially good for me to see you again. I am still alive, yes. And there's a, they're very wonky wheels on chairs that we've got here. So it's really serious. And you know, Eamon, I know for a fact, had been complaining about the dodgy chairs in the studio for some time.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yet the bosses of the channel allowed that to happen. Now, they're leaking against him to the mail. Here's the headline. It's very messy. He's clashing with people all. the time, patience is wearing thin, why Amon Holmes is in huge trouble as insiders reveal he is causing chaos at G.B. News. He was once hailed as daytime television royalty, the article opens, watched by millions and with a salary to match. But now, life for struggling presenter, Aman Holmes, has become so tough that he is no longer as popular with his colleagues as he once was. For those he works with at G.B. News, where he hosts the breakfast show, tell me that he is often in a foul mood and increasingly clashing with colleagues at the station as he struggles
Starting point is 00:52:37 to navigate the financial woes that he says has ruined him. Amin confessed last week that he has been made to pay a further £250,000 for an outstanding tax bill after HMRC demanded back pay from when he claimed to be a freelancer, with the authority insisting he wasn't during his days hosting Sky's Sunrise Morning Show. But despite speaking candidly about the situation, those who work with him at GB News say he is, quote, clearly struggling with amounting pressure on his shoulders. As one source tells me, it feels like everything is coming to a head. What happens on screen and what happens off screen are very different. When the camera's roll, Amon still switches it on, but away from that, it's very messy. He's in a foul mood and everyone
Starting point is 00:53:16 behind the scenes feels it. He is clashing with people all the time, and now that it's become clear, he is still in a huge amount of trouble with the tax man. It all becomes clear. People's patience is wearing a bit thin. Well, I'm sorry, there's something very nasty about this. And there's something very nasty about the fact that the bosses at G.B. News are effectively allowing Stephen Dixon to run this ongoing campaign against Eamon Holmes, who is suffering from these serious health troubles. But Father Calvin Robinson, I mean, we know, don't we, how the bosses deal with these situations. And they almost encourage these civil wars like what's going on between. Eamon and Stephen Dixon. Now, Calvin, I actually saw Aman quite recently. It was at Nanna Acquire's engagement party. And look, I'm not going to reveal our private conversations.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Of course I'm not. But needless to say, he's been left pretty devastated by this campaign against him. And you really don't expect your bosses to be leaking in this way, do you? Or your colleagues, you know? It's nasty, but the managers, the top bosses at GB News are nasty people. They're just immoral, unethical people. This is how they operate. I saw them do this with you. I saw them do it with Darren Grimes. I saw them do it with myself. The way they leak these things and spread rumors and gossip. It's just not a pleasant working environment. It's actually bullying is what it is. Someone needs to hold them to account for it. It's abysmal that people are forced working in an environment like that. If they don't want him working there anymore, they should speak with him,
Starting point is 00:54:58 fire him. To have these little jibes here and there, it's unpleasant. And as for the, you know, the health and safety of the place, you and I were talking about those, that horrible furniture from the, before the channel even went live. So it's been a long time in the running that, of course, someone's eventually going to have an accident on one of those awful chairs. 100%. And it happened, didn't it? I mean, I actually think, from my perspective, Richard Taylor, the moment they hired this dude, Stephen Dixon, was the start. of G.B. News's slide into the mainstream. And let me just explain that, right? He is a sly news guy through and through. He was at Sly News for decades. So he's a member of the Metropolitan Elite. He's a
Starting point is 00:55:43 leftist, all of that type of thing. But he was sacked by Sly News. And this is the problem. G.B. News thought, oh, how amazing we can get someone from Sly News. I was like, why? You know, why, they are our enemies. Why on earth would you want someone from Sly News? And he then formed this partnership with this woman on screen called Ali Costello. And I mean, you can see, I think Ellie Costello is a lovely woman. You know, I always had a really great experience working with her. But you can just see from her body language that she is much more comfortable when she's presenting with Stephen Dixon than when she's presenting with Aymond Holmes. But I think it's really awful, actually, the fact that this guy is sort of openly campaigning.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Like, have a bit of respect, Stephen Dixon. You're a total no mark. Like, go out onto the street. No one has any idea who you are. Amon Holmes is a legend of TV. Not saying he's perfect. Don't agree with him on lots of stuff. He's falling out with lots of people.
Starting point is 00:56:38 But I just feel like, as Calvin says, don't wage a war against him. Deal with this one way or the other. But stop this constant sort of nastiness. Yeah, I think that I'm first to say, you know, you're supposed to look after each other. If you're working together and in a team, and in particular GB News, they've got a record of doing this,
Starting point is 00:56:58 a track record of cancellation culture with yourself, Father Robinson, many as Lawrence Fox, you know, there's so many lists go on. We've seen it more recently with our party leader, Ben Habib, after launch in advance UK. He was ceremoniously cancelled. Now, we believe there are reasons around that. We know the Farage as large interests in the company itself, and he's a large shareholder.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And it appears to me, and to many of us that are in the know, that a lot of these decisions are made, under Farage's watch. Allegedly that's happened and he robert low and many others have been cancelled because they don't fit in with Farage's narrative.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Going back to the point with Amen, I remember speaking to him doing morning papers on Sky, Sunrise I think back in 2016. He's very warm, amenable person. Yes, I don't agree with everything. But look, the treatment of your staff members and your fellow workers
Starting point is 00:57:47 should be treated with the utmost respect and you look out for one another. And I think that's been lacking a lot within GB News and they're implored in actually because their turnover of presenters is quite revealing and it shows the culture that's going on there that we see in mainstream media. They've become part of the mainstream media
Starting point is 00:58:05 that we, the media now, are against. They become the very thing they said of not to be. They said they were the people's channel. But I don't see evidence of that because if they were, then they'd give equality across the board and those with different opinions wouldn't be cancelled or considered to be too close to the board if you like, you're too far right.
Starting point is 00:58:24 We can't have your opinion. on the show, or at least presenting the show in the cases of yourself, Dan, Father Robinson, and many others as well that have been cancelled as political commentators on their show for having an opinion that doesn't fit in with the bosses upstairs. Yeah, I mean, it's sad to see, actually, and obviously Father Calvin Robinson, we've also seen it happen with Talk TV in regards to Mike Graham, and not surprisingly, the viewers are just walking and boycotting. Yeah, it is a shame.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I don't like that. I'm so glad to be out of that environment. It wasn't a nice environment to work in. But you're right, it's always spiteful. It's always nasty. But the viewers, they see the truth. They see through it. And they build a support base for these people.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Amon Holmes, of course, like you said, it's a household name. He has a support base. And just like you, when you left GB News, your support base with you. If Aeman leaves, he'll take your support base with him. So they need to be very careful with the games that they're playing because if they turn away all of their stars,
Starting point is 00:59:22 what are they going to have left? People like, what was the name? Stephen Dixon? I think so. Who knows? Who knows? He's certainly not someone I'd ever want to wake up with on TV.
Starting point is 00:59:35 No way. Father Carlton Robinson, Richard Taylor, my superstar panel, thank you so much. Breaking today, Lucy Connolly has stormed Westminster and she is telling those people, empower a thing or two about how the country really feel. Now this is a fabulous story,
Starting point is 01:00:02 isn't it? Imagine going from social media jailbird to fixture at the center of power. And it's all thanks to Rupert Lowe of Restore Britain, who arranged for our superstar panelist to be a special guest at a Westminster Hall debate that he was hosting around the disgusting imprisonment of Lucy as a result of her sole tweet, soon deleted, on the night of the Southport massacre, where she expressed absolute horror and fury about what's going on. Horror and fury about the fact that we have these dangerous criminal men living in hotels at our expense. And yes, she may have phrased some of her words in quite a fiery manner, but I think a lot of it was what the country felt. And remember, for Lucy, it was such a personal
Starting point is 01:00:54 emotional issue because of the fact that she knew the pain of losing a young child given her infant son or young son was killed as a result of NHS neglect. So we're going to show you the highlights and the lowlights from this debate as well as Lucy Connolly's first go, and she did very, very well as a citizen journalist interviewing exclusively for us here at outspoken, Rupert Lowe. Watch. I think a lot of people in this country right now are fearful of what they post online. They might have, you know, backed off a little and are generally worried about what is acceptable, what could be, you know, construed as hate speech, etc.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Do you think that, you know, that the debate acknowledged that? No, I don't think it acknowledged that. I think what we need to encourage people to do legally and in a peaceful way is to stand up to all of this petty bureaucracy. Don't let the state bully you in any way. And I think people should challenge local government, they should challenge national government. They ultimately are the electorate, so they are the bosses and the people in parliament are ultimately supposed to be serving the people. I think they do forget that often. I think they lose sight of that. Lucy also asked Rupert Lowe whether he believed two-tier Britain was a real thing.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And do you think we're in danger of creating a two-tier speech, free speech system in this country? I think we've got one. I think we've got one and I think we've got a two-tier policing system. I think if you look there's, and I think look at the Brexit vote. So the Brexit vote, we were given a referendum. The majority of English people voted to leave the European Union, which I thought was a surprise at the time, but that's what they voted for. And the government singularly failed to deliver that because they didn't agree with it. So we live in a society now where Nanny knows best, and as long as you agree with Nanny, then you're free and say what you want. If you don't agree with Nanny, which is the essence of a free society, you have to be able to challenge Nanny without threat from the state. And this is where I think it's all going wrong.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I quoted George Orwell in my speech, because George Orwell, an old Ettonian, he was a wonderful polemicist. And at the end of the day, he's been incredibly prescient about what he said. He's got some other great Orwell quotes. But, you know, he almost predicted what's happening now. And it is happening.
Starting point is 01:03:43 It's the thought police. It's the centrally planned state, which is a threat to individualism. And I think you embodied that. what happened to you and what did that. And I don't think, again, I'm interested to learn from you. I personally have mentioned the legal aid issue because I think you were probably badly legally advised.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And we're going to get back to that interview, but just to illustrate what went on, I'm going to show you Rupert at the debate and then some of the hard leftist MPs who Rupert and Lucy were so disgusted by watch. The poison of two-tier justice must be forensically extracted from our judicial system. This debate is not about whether we are prepared to live in a country where liberty exists only for those who never cause offence, an impossible and undesirable standard.
Starting point is 01:04:40 To Lucy and to every other person who has found themselves dragged through the system for a post online, you deserve better from your government, and I sincerely hope to, marks the beginning of a serious rethink in this House. Thank you. Well, unfortunately not, because Labour MP for the Isle of White West, Richard Quigley, actually had the cheat to compare Lucy to that illegal immigrant now locked up for his threats against Nigel Farage. Mata Pasa, watch.
Starting point is 01:05:13 It seems that for the right-wing, free speech is not a two-way street. It's Schrodinger's version of free speech. No more has this hypocrisy and noctrine being clearer than the can. case of the member for Clacton who rightly disavowed and welcomed the imprisonment of an individual who used social media to threaten his life. But readily platformed a woman during his party conference who said, and I quote, mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care. If that makes me a racist, so be it. I'm generally intrigued as to whether free speech is only deemed acceptable if it is used to threaten the lives
Starting point is 01:05:46 of refugees, but not the reform party leader. There was also this from Dr. Scott Arthur, the MP for Edinburgh Southwest. I understand why people are arguing that racially motivated hatred should not be a law online when it is in the real world. Why should be able to say something online that we wouldn't say in the pub? It's utterly unbelievable that people are putting for this argument. It's unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And Lucy was furious about the MPs who didn't show up. Well, I think it was slightly sort of slightly sort of as expected. I thought the number of MPs who turned up was very disappointing, particularly an absence from all five perform MPs. It was good to see James McModot there, who came briefly, had had to go, he's got a young family. It was interesting that they refused his intervention, which is highly irregular really. Yeah, did you get away to anybody? I gave way to a question. to a question. So I think for me, and again, I'd be interested to know what you thought,
Starting point is 01:06:56 and I would like to hear that, but I think it shows how out of touch the Lib Dems, Labour, and the Greens and people like that are with this issue. And I, you know, I personally think you've been extremely badly treated, and I think most of the British public think you've been very badly treated. And what I think it will show the British public is just how out of touch a great number of people in this house are. So I don't know what you would have you think. No, I 100% agree. Again, I'm disappointed that there wasn't more MPs from other parties, I think, reform, for example. I think they're very out of touch.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Nearly all of the people in there today, obviously. Yeah. I thought more Tories could have come too. Absolutely. they could have done, you know, that they all, again, it's all, well, they, on paper, they all agree that we should have free speech and that my sentence was heart and all of these things, but where were they today? It's all just, you know.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I thought they also didn't bring out the fact that when you've had something so vile has happened at Southport, that people's emotions run high, that they thought it was some sort of coordinated protest. It wasn't. It was an outpouring of complete revulsion from the British people. people and I think they felt the police investigation that said that the police investigation that was conducted said this would have happened regardless of what was on some that was posted on social media tensions were going high this
Starting point is 01:08:27 was bound to happen well of course we've now got people who don't share our culture who don't share our values who often don't respect what we are being planted across the country in migrant hotels which ultimately are undermining the the security and safety of the local communities. And we know that. And we know a lot of these people are going to end up costing the British taxpayer a lot of money. They were both specifically upset
Starting point is 01:08:54 by the lack of support from Reform UK, especially given Lucy had appeared as a star guest at their conference. I think it's disappointing, particularly given the fact that you went to their party conference and you've been quite overtly supportive of what they're doing, that at least one or two of them didn't come and speak.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Yeah, I mean, I think this is. is that this is a problem across the parliament and all parties, isn't it? Instead of just going, actually, I might not personally like that person. We might have our differences, but that's actually a really good motion. That's really good idea. That's something that I will support and taking personal feelings side. And I think that needs to happen more across the board. Couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I mean, personal feelings should not play a part. It's the moral principle that counts. And if you agree with what somebody's trying to do, you should support them. Yeah. And do you feel that they listened or do you feel like it was just a box-ticking exercise for them? Again, I don't know what you thought, but it didn't look to me like they listened. I don't think most of them, in fact, I know most of them don't use social media very much. Now within the debate, Rupert used the issue of rape gangs to respond to one of the hard left MPs. What can he cite what analysis? He bases that comment on about people being more likely to be in prison.
Starting point is 01:10:13 for a social media to be, than rape. I'm sure the Honourable Gentleman has heard of the Pakistani rape gangs, which are currently the subject of my crowd funder. And when you read the report that is coming out in March, I'm sure you'll agree with me. And in his interview without Lucy Connolly, they discussed that moment. Watch. You probably heard the chat who asked me about the,
Starting point is 01:10:43 when I made a comment about people being locked up for social media posts more readily than rapists. And I have to point out to him that I'm afraid the rape gang issue is a massive scandal. It's a complete systemic failure of our entire sort of governing councils. So it's the councils, it's the police, it's local government, it's social services. It's almost every aspect of modern Britain has let down these white white working class underage girls who've been systemically raped by Pakistani Muslim rape gangs and we've identified it's been happening in 137 areas which means it's been
Starting point is 01:11:26 happening in a lot more towns and cities so as I said in the debate that's our report will be out so that the Barristers sitting in early February and he should have his report out by the end of March early April depending on how long it takes him to complete it and it will be very high hard hitting. Does the government supposed to be having a statutory inquiry, but five months on, not much has happened. Of course, the reason that this debate was allowed to take place was because of a mega petition which showed the British public were very much on the side of Lucy Connolly. The online petition got 191,000 signatures, but, you know, that's very high for that kind
Starting point is 01:12:06 of category. Were you surprised at the amount of signatures that it got and the traction that it got? No, I think it's one of the higher petitions that have taken place. I mean, with our social media following, we're now able to fill these quite quickly. So although your debate was the first of its kind when an MP has sponsored it, as you probably saw I got no special treatment as the MP sponsored it. I was treated like all the other punters, and the chairman actually selected me to speak after another MP. So that's fine, that's how they want to play it, that's okay.
Starting point is 01:12:40 But we've now worked out that we can do this, so our followers, if we bring a petition for a debate, we can fill it usually within about five or six hours. So whether they'll change the rules, now, I mean, it's 100,000 and they're supposed to have the debate. What I can tell you is for me to get a debate is quite difficult. I've had one in Westminster Hall, but as an independent MP it's quite hard to be able to get a debate. And I mean, it's unfortunate that most of the people who turned up were idiots like this. Speech, words have consequences, and no matter if I passionately disagree with you politically, if someone uses social media to call for the death or harm of another, they should be held accountable by any means that law deems fit. Regrettably, I do not believe that the same clarity exists on the benches opposite.
Starting point is 01:13:36 What I think is so exciting about the independent media revolution is that that we do have someone like Lucy Connolly, who I believe is a voice of the people asking the questions now. Lucy, by the way, is joining Outspoken as a regular superstar panelist. What's the final part of her interview with Rupert Lowe? Are you planning to push for further sentencing reviews
Starting point is 01:13:57 or even a change in legislation? Well, I think from my point of view, Lucy, I'll keep looking at this. And if we see cases that we think are wrong, we will highlight them using our social media platform. but our job is slightly bigger than that I think what we've got to do is try and change the way we're governed
Starting point is 01:14:14 I say to my constituents in Great Yarmouth who are fantastic people who have been very badly served by the Post War elite I say to them I can't solve your problems kissing babies in Great Yarmouth which again and I do quite a lot to try and help my constituents and they're great people I said we've got to change
Starting point is 01:14:35 we have to change the head of the beast we have to get control of the whole mechanism of decision-making of the respect for the electorate, of the respect for democracy, of the respect for the nation-state. We have to basically protect the individual and we have to attack central planners. And unless we do that collectively, we've got no chance of winning because they've currently got control of the asylum.
Starting point is 01:15:05 So the lunatics are running. the asylum. Unless we change that, it's going to get worse. Yeah, definitely. And obviously we can see that people care massively about free speech in this country at the moment. It's an issue close to a lot of people. What would you say to them about this debate? Well, as I said earlier, you know, you can't rely on a few people. Everybody's got to fight this and fight it in a fair, law-abiding way, but in a firm way. So it's going to require everybody to stand up to every piece of petty bureaucracy, which we all face every day now. And we need to get a group of people in power who are going to enact whatever you want to call it the Great Repeal Act,
Starting point is 01:15:52 the Great Clarification Act, as we refer to on mass deportations. Whatever you want to call it, we need to get rid of the licensing, the regulation, you know, the enrichment of, of lawyers, we need to get rid of the over-policing and the two-tier policing, which we've clearly seen, the difference between the law-abiding supporters who are genuinely concerned about the direction the country is taking and the Palestinian marchers who march singing from the river to the sea. Most of them, when asked, don't know which river and which sea. So the whole thing is a farce, but they don't intervene in the same way. Now whether that's because we've got a Muslim mayor of London,
Starting point is 01:16:34 whether, whatever reason, we've definitely got two-tier policing. And as you probably know, the mayor of London is in charge of the metropolitan police. Yeah. So we've gone badly wrong. And I think we've gone wrong because, and I say this to all my friends, we've had life too good since the war. I think all of Europe lost its confidence after two world wars and as a result of that we've been we've neglected our sort
Starting point is 01:17:08 of the way in which we've been governed we've all had a great time we've had a respect global respect which arguably a lot of the people who you who are now in power don't deserve and I feel I don't know what you feel but I think the West's power is actually on the wayne and we're seeing other people and other sort of cultures with a different view of individualism who are coming to the fore. So I think we have to now stand up for what we believe in. We have to look at, obviously, America.
Starting point is 01:17:49 A lot of the American Constitution is based on our own, it came from our own Bill of Rights. So they fought the American War of Independence. and they respect individualism. They're probably the one country where it's embedded in their constitution. Our constitution is unwritten. So we have to fight for what we believe in. We can't just indulge ourselves in a life of sort of what I call back-an-alian fun. What we've got to do is we've got to start fighting back.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And I say that to everybody. If you don't fight back, you're going to lose your country. You're going to lose your freedom and you're going to lose everything that you care about. Okay. And if you have to sum up the debate in like one sentence, what would you, how would you, what would you say? Predictable, disappointing, but not unexpected. Okay. Great.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Thanks very much, Rupert. Thank you. Oh, I love that. I absolutely love that. Well done, Lucy Connolly, becoming a bit of a superstar in the independent media space. And as I say, she will be joining our superstar. panel as a regular guest starting this Monday on outspoken. Okay, we're going to reveal today's greatest Britain Union jackass in just one moment. First, though, to your comments. And Alex
Starting point is 01:19:10 Marman says there are questions that are difficult to answer. For Stama, that is any question given to him, as he never answers any of them in PMQs every week. Usamoo says Stama was always destined to step aside for MacMood, where is the surprise? And bipedal speckies says, Does James O'Brien live in a bubble? Or is he actually just twisted and loving every second of it? I think a combination of the two, if I'm totally honest by Paul. Okay, reminder of your union jackass nominees, Rachel Willwood, nominated by Bob Dissie for Refugees are welcome,
Starting point is 01:19:45 but not in the barracks in her own constituency. NIMBY, she's, of course, the Green Party deputy leader. John Swinney, nominated by Protect Right 9-9, for his continuing fight against women's rights in support of a few autistic or pervert men in bad wigs, and Chris Packham nominated by Snowd 659 for Smugly groaning on about the wonders of the BBC. Could it be that they pay his wages? I think that is a very good thought.
Starting point is 01:20:10 This was an extraordinarily close vote. Today, the lead has changed multiple times. But the results are now in and are locked in. And third position, he was leading earlier when I first looked, John Swinney. the runner-up with 34% of the vote, Rachel Millward. But today's Union Jackass with 35% the worst Britain in the world today is Chris Packham for his constant defence of the BBC.
Starting point is 01:20:41 And this is going to be fun because, you know, it is a Thursday, which means tomorrow on the show. We reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. And it's when we put our Union Jackassers from across the week head to head. which means that Chris Packham will be going up against Narenda Kaur from Monday, Ed Davy from Tuesday, Shabana Mahmood from Wednesday. I'm going to be popping that up in the post section of YouTube immediately after the live show today.
Starting point is 01:21:09 So do get voting. And today's Greatest Britain, oh, I couldn't agree with this more, nominated by Becca Thornquist. It's Lady Colin Campbell because she is finally home with her fur baby. ever let any of us down, even through pain and agony. She kept us all entertained every day. Through her suffering, she made her subscribers joyful. You know how much I adore Lady Colin Campbell. She is a regular hair and outspoken. Quite recently, she had this broken pelvis and was still broadcasting from her hospital bed, but it is a huge relief to me that she's back at Castle Goring, being looked after. I adore that woman. And I know it's going to be very difficult for her not walking,
Starting point is 01:21:53 for six whole months, but at least she is in the place that she loves. And, you know, Castle Goring, honestly, it just has the most incredible vibe. It's a really magical place and especially being with her two delightful dogs as well. So thank you so much. And we will hopefully have Lady C from Castle Goring a week today. Okay, in the uncannceled after show today, though, over on Substack. We're joined by Tom Sykes. He is the man behind the royalist blog,
Starting point is 01:22:28 European editor at large, at the Daily Beast. Whoa, there is a whole load to discuss. He is actually going to explain why King Charles is now involved in an abdication crisis. This is a major story, so join us over on Substack
Starting point is 01:22:41 at www. outspoken. Dot live. But at this stage, we move off YouTube to continue the conversation over on Substack. I will be back with you,
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