Dan Wootton Outspoken - CROWBOROUGH ERUPTS OVER INVASION OF MIGRANT MEN AS DOUGLAS MURRAY RAGES AT ISLAMIST TAKEOVER

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: The British government is proven to be the enemy of the people as the first wave of 540 male migrants were shipped into the former army barracks escorted by cops at Crowborough in East... Sussex at 3.28am, against the opposition of livid locals who are now plotting a massive demonstration on Sunday. No wonder Americans look at us as mad men as the ex-Prime Minister of the Disunited Kingdom exposes an Islamist takeover and Sadiq Khan jokes about the imposition of Sharia Law in London. Meanwhile, Douglas Murray has made an important intervention, which Dan will reveal in the Digest before getting uncompromising analysis from Connor Tomlinson of Tomlinson Talks on YouTube. PLUS: Sangita Myska is exposed for a hit piece on Tommy Robinson. We’ll bring you his response. AND: A new media war rages between newly independent Mike Graham and original Paul Thorpe. We’ll show you their heated exchange. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: The Daily Mail axes Rebecca English and Charlotte Griffiths from the studio of its Palace Confidential YouTube show following shocking revelations in the Prince Harry trial via the newspaper. We’ll bring you the independent coverage you won’t get from the MSM with royal YouTube sensation According2Taz. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 The British government, proven to be the enemy of the people as the first wave of 540 male migrants were shipped into the former army barracks escorted by cops at Crowbara in East Sussex at 3.28 a.m. Against the opposition of livid locals who are now ploughed. a massive demonstration on Sunday. The Home Office have ignored our calls and rolled in the first of up to 540 illegal migrant men under the cover of darkness and a police escort. No wonder Americans look at us as madmen as the ex-prime minister of our disunited kingdom exposes
Starting point is 00:01:23 and Islamist takeover and Sadiq Khan jokes about the imposition of Jari Elor in London. Four in ten London residents weren't born in the country, and the number one baby name in England, Muhammad. Policing had essentially been outsourced to the Muslim community. These masked thugs were then excused by Home Office Minister Jess Phillips. My planned rollout of Sharia law is running behind schedule. But today, Douglas Murray has made an animal important intervention.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It would pretty much be deemed undesirable for any country to have its population fundamentally changed in a course of a few generations. Yes, there is obviously a difference between those of us who can say us about our forebears and our country and somebody arriving in the last generation who does not have that reference to us, we, our history, when we fought the Napoleonic wars, when we our ancestors laid down their lives in two world wars, when we did this, I think you have to admit that ethnicity matters a lot to be absolutely everything. And if you allow that breathing hole in the ice, then you won't go towards some kind of
Starting point is 00:03:04 of different horror. In response to the sort of protection of Islam, more people would notice that they needed strong armory themselves. And I always said that I thought it was inevitable that there would be a return of Christianity. Much more from Douglas Murray in my digest next. then smart, shrewd and certainly uncompromising analysis from Connor Tomlinson, the host of Tomlinson talks on YouTube. Also coming up on the show today, more question marks over Reform UK's
Starting point is 00:03:46 Egyptian Muslim Merrill candidate Layla Cunningham. Will she end up being replaced by Tom Skinner? Sangita Miska exposed for a hit piece on Tommy Robinson will bring you his response and a new media war rages between newly independent, Mike Graham, and Independent Media Original Paul Thorpe. We will show you their heated exchange. Then, in the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow, which is back on substack today, www. outspoken. Live is the address. The Daily Mail access Rebecca English and Charlotte Griffiths from the studio of its Palace Confidential YouTube show following shocking revelations in the Prince Harry trial against the newspaper. We'll bring you the independent coverage you won't get from the MSM with Royal YouTube Sensation according to Taz.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And of course, because it is Friday, woo-hoo. We will also reveal the worst Britain in the world today. Megapole going on. Tens of thousands of you have already voted. You can head to the Post's tab of YouTube in order to do so. This is where we put your union jackasses from across the week. Head to head. Here are your nominees.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Tony Blair from Monday because of his influence at the World Economic Forum. Prince Harry, because of his all. awful evidence in the case versus the Daily Mail. Slippery Stama on Wednesday, need I say more. And on Thursday, Emily Maitliss of the fake news agents for her intervention in the US over ice. So get voting. Can Slippery Stama do the double? I'll let you know at the end of the show. Keep your comments coming in too because I will share some of them as well. But now let's go. The UK government is at war with the British people. And there are now so many foreign invaders being ushered in every damn day that there is nowhere to put there.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So Shibana Mahmood's home office lies to locals and uses underhand tactics. Case and point. Crowberra in East Sussex, which has erupted overnight as the first wave of 540 male migrants were shipped into the former army barracks escorted by cops at three. 28 a.m. against the opposition of livid locals who know that their safety. And the safety of their daughters, wives and mums is now being put at risk by a suicidal Labour Party who seems to think that a host of Islamist, rapists, terrorists and murderers should be allowed to roam free in our communities, even though they have illegally entered our country and should be locked up before being deported. Well, Ben Habib's Advance UK are now plotting a massive demonstration.
Starting point is 00:06:29 on Sunday with advocate Liam Tomset representing local Fury. Watch. Hi, this is Liam. And for the past 12 weeks, I've successfully co-organised the protests and demonstrations in Kroberra. As you listen on the news, the Home Office have ignored our calls and rolled in the first of up to 540 illegal migrant men under the cover of darkness and a police escort. This is a clear sign that the government is no longer listening to the people that it is supposed to represent. And this is why I have joined Advance UK as I see them as the best option to get the country out of the messes now finds itself in. Please join us on Sunday in Crobra at 10am where we will continue to protest and voice our concerns for the safety of our community.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Thank you. Now things are already not looking good on the ground. I've got to be honest with you. Look at this from MAPE over the past few hours, who posted the new migrant residents of Krobra, haven't even been in Kroberra for 48 hours yet. Already we're getting reports of some going missing. Already people are being spotted walking across the golf course. I think we've got a picture of this in the early hours of this morning. And let's be clear, there are currently under 30 people in the camp, under 30. So the questions locals are rightly asking is this. what on earth is going to happen when this place is at full capacity. This is exactly why communities raise concerned from day one. This is exactly why people feel ignored when they're told
Starting point is 00:08:10 nothing will change. Krober residents deserve transparency, reassurance and answers not to be gaslit after less than two days. If this is what's happening now, it's only reasonable to ask what comes next. And of course that's only reasonable. Of course it is, but you are going to be ignored. Indeed, the vast majority of politicians are ignoring you. One of the exception, Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe. The Great Yarmouth MP raged. Krobra illegal migrants have their own site GP. On site.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Just think about that. It is sickening. My view, they should be securely detained in a tented camp on a rainy, miserable little island until they can be swiftly deported. No benefits, no phones, no luxuries. These men have broken into our country. They are criminals and should be treated as such.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I really don't care whatever bullshit like. they spin, they can claim to be gay, Christian, whatever else. They're gone. Every single one of them, deported and never allowed back. I am with the people of Cropra and other similar communities suffering the same pain, not these Afghan, Eritrean and Sudanese criminals detain, deport. The thing is, our elites are now so willfully blind to what is going on in this country that they are laughing in our face. We even have to, our own. Have Sadi Khan joking about the takeover of Sharia law in Islamist London. By your glasses on those tables, I can see dry January is already over for most of you.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I do apologise. I'd hope to help you out in that respect. But my planned rollout of Sharia law is running behind schedule. The thing is it would be a good joke if it wasn't true. If there wasn't Sharia law, taking over parts of London. Now, we have a former Prime Minister in this trust openly warning about the Islamist takeover of the police. Watch. Essentially been outsourced to the Muslim community. These masked thugs were then excused by Home Office Minister Jess Phillips, who has form for appeasing Islamists by failing to tackle Britain's rape gags.
Starting point is 00:10:28 We have Americans looking on at this in abject horror. Four in ten London residents weren't born in the country. And the number one baby name in England, Muhammad. Where is the outcry, the outrage from our allies over what's happening right under our nose? So what to do? Where is the hope when we are being ignored? Is civil unrest now inevitable? And to Douglas Murray, one of our most important voices who says the UK must not
Starting point is 00:11:03 accept a takeover. Just like Pakistan would never accept becoming majority Welsh. Watch. Just take a sort of 40,000 foot view for a second. I mean, I think it's would pretty much be deemed undesirable for any country to have its population fundamentally changed in a course of a few generations. I mean, you know, if, if, if Pakistan suddenly in the course of one person's lifetime became majority Welsh, I don't think people would, I don't think. What a thought. Yeah, I mean, I don't think people would celebrate it particularly, I don't, I don't think, I don't think any of us would say, yeah, great, they had it coming, bring more of the world. Welsh guys in, let's screw up the Pakistani society and change it and, and, uh,
Starting point is 00:12:07 force them all to wear daffodils. Yeah, and sing all the time. Um, I, I, I, I think it would just be weird and certainly, unless you really hated the country in question, surely not desirable to encourage. So I just sort of think that would be the case anywhere. Why is it different with us in the UK and why we're not meant to even sort of say, oh, I'm not quite sure I like that idea. Yes, and Whitechapel, a no-go zone of East London for white Christians,
Starting point is 00:12:50 councillors are now referring to the area as Banglatown, officially. And what Basil the Great believes is the Bangal. Adelaeshi's renaming areas of the UK. So speaking to the New Cultural Forum, Douglas finally said the quiet part out loud. There is a difference between actual Brits and immigrants to Britain. Yes, there is obviously a difference between those of us who can say us about our forebears and our country. and somebody arriving in the last generation
Starting point is 00:13:32 who does not have that reference to us, we, our history, when we fought the Napoleonic Wars, when we are ancestors laid down their lives in two world wars, when we did this, when we, they obviously don't have that any more than, I mean, some of them will, some of them will let to do it, I mean, you know, but they, They obviously wouldn't have that again. Sorry to belabor the point,
Starting point is 00:14:01 but any more than I would be able to say we about a 19th century uprising in India if I lived in India. When asked by Emma Trimble, who you saw there, that she's hosting the New Cultural Forum's interview show, having been asked by the late Peter Whittle to take over good on her. And when she asked Douglas about the rise of ethno nationalism, I think he got the balance right. Ethnicity matters a lot, although it's not everything. Watch.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I think you have to admit that ethnicity matters a lot, but that it cannot be absolutely everything. And if you allow that breathing hole in the ice, then you won't go towards. some kind of different horror. We have to acknowledge that ethnicity does matter in order not to allow in the people who believe it's everything. And so that's the way I would try to, if I was a politician, that's how I would try to address that. You've got to leave the breathing hole in the ice for the person who deeply loves the country.
Starting point is 00:15:28 and wants to contribute to it and is of the country by now. So how do we fight back against Islam then? Douglas advocates for Christianity over violence. I said this would happen that in response to the sort of protection of Islam, more people would notice that they needed strong armory themselves. And I always said that I thought it was inevitable that there would be a return of Christianity in some form. So Rusty Reno calls the return of the strong gods. The return of the strong gods. I think that's inevitable.
Starting point is 00:16:13 On the political side of the debate, I was very happy to see Douglas express disappointment. A disappointment so many of us feel in the weak source approach of Nigel Farage and Reform UK, who Douglas says has not learned that. lessons of the Trump administration. Watch. Do you think that we will? Do you think that we'll have a reform government that will be willing to take those steps? I don't know. I mean, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:16:38 When Farage first said, you know, it's impossible. I was disappointed in that because, you know, Donald Trump was showing it's possible. We'll see. There's going to be a wild ride ahead. Well, there is. Because it's not just Cropra. It's not just London.
Starting point is 00:16:58 where people are suffering. Look at what residents in crew are currently having to deal with. This is a group that's brought a house right near where I live. I don't know an awful lot about it. All I know is in 2021, this massive group all sold their houses and bought like it was an old orphanage where I'm from. Now they've said that they were a religion of peace. Like I say, I can't say too much.
Starting point is 00:17:28 because I don't know a great deal about it. It's just bits that I'm getting to find out. So the marching round, the chanting, they're doing to me what looks like some sort of... The only way I can put it, some sort of training for something. You've got to be so careful what you say on here, aren't you? You know? Now, I've also heard that you were not allowed to stay in,
Starting point is 00:17:50 and they weren't allowed to stay in Sweden. So why are you allowed to stay here? I don't get it. I don't know what they've done either, though. Or why they're allowed to stay here? They're not allowed to stay in their mother, couldn't it? Would you want to live, like, right now, there? No.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And this is what I found on Google, just telling you, like, you know, what the group's all about and all that sort of stuff. I've been reading it. You know, peace and light, it's described as. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want them anywhere near me. This is the peace and light cult in crew.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Can't say I've seen anything about it, Joe McCain says. Can you watch? Hi, everybody. We are the Abundi religion of peace and light. And I'm standing here with my brothers, who are the supporters of our assignee from him is peace. I just want to let you know that we have come to be with him from all over the globe. We have different people with different languages, different backgrounds and different religions
Starting point is 00:19:01 and we've come together to be with him because he is the car him, the chosen one by God, the lead people to the divine just state. We sold our houses, not because we were precious, because we've had enough of this world. Like Jesus asked the rich man to sell his property and the rich man couldn't do it to give to the poor. He is the chosen. He has come in the manner, alleges it to her love. And please, please research, because what are you waiting for? The prophecy has been fulfilled and he has come to save you and mankind. Are you waiting for the door to be closed and live in the time of regret? So, if I was you, I would call to him even on ice to be with him,
Starting point is 00:19:49 because his arms are wide open. And as my brother's behind me know, we live and we die by what we say. Keep safe and we see you soon. Nope, no, haven't changed my mind. Don't want them anywhere near me. Radical Islam, of course, does remain the elephant in the room. Some people are being brave and I love it. I celebrate it. I mean, who would have thought the ex-BBC Clothes Show presenter, Jeff Banks,
Starting point is 00:20:20 would become a rare voice of sanity and calling out Islam and why it is simply not compatible with our country. Lots of religions have managed to adapt to modernity and to science. The Islam mindset actually acknowledge and requires that free speech,
Starting point is 00:20:43 individual freedom, secular governance, human rights, gender equality, respect for other religions, actually hold little place in Islamic law. I know that there are many well-meaning Muslims in the country, many of them are friends of mine, that actually abide by the law and think of themselves as British.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It's no good having Sharia law and Sharia courts that think they can act outside of the law of the country of which we're host. Fundamental laws on marriage, human rights, women's rights, women's rights that have to be obeyed. All of those are brought under Sharia law, and a lot of them are contradictory to the laws of Great Britain. It's really very simple that if you want to come and live in Britain, be British, then you have to abide by the laws of the land.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's not acceptable to think that you can come here and create a separate state within a state. Well, said good man, the states could not be higher. With the Islamist takeover here in the UK, now raising comparisons to Iran from the independent journalist Andre Walker, who is now being targeted by the police himself. They say it's unprecedented when the civil service have failed to defend their country. They say it's unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:22:08 When the left, the political left and the Islamists join together in an unholy alliance of evil, but it is not unprecedented in Britain. You have seen it before in 1975 in Iran. I will tell you, I will tell you, we do not want this country to go the way of Iran. We want to liberate the people of Iran. And I want you, I want every civil servant, I want the people behind this wall, I want the police officers with these cap badges to know. Cowardous is not the order of the day.
Starting point is 00:22:49 When you are in a position of responsibility, you will stand for freedom. You will stand for democracy. Or you will be removed. The thinking of mainstream MSM figures and politicians like Danny Finkelstein is finally being rejected. With Connor Tomlinson of Tomlinson talks responding to the Times columnist in a heated feud this week, writing, Actually, we don't have to put up. with this, Danny. We don't have to surrender to demographic obsulence, cultural erasure, vice addiction and poverty. We can do whatever it takes to become a high trust, homogenous, prosperous country again,
Starting point is 00:23:35 the type that your parents brought you up in. And we'll do that even if you don't like it. And Connor Tomlinson joins me now live. Conner, I mean, look, let's kick off by talking about what's going in CROBRA because surely there is now the prospect of civil unrest. New footage coming in right now showing taxis, ferrying illegals into the CROBRA training camp last night. Advance UK now planning this demonstration on Sunday. And remember, the locals are already reporting unrest when there's just 30 of these illegals in the local area with another 500 to come. Yes, I will say to all of the Patriots going down there to make their concerns heard, try your best not to give the state a further excuse to throw you in prison,
Starting point is 00:24:34 because believe me, they're looking one, so maybe don't bring any cans of Stella, etc. to lob at the police. Keep things peaceful. And show our side has the grace and decorum that we all know that we have. But everyone's right to be angry. And you're right, Dan, is a recipe for civil discontent for them to not just smuggle these 27, at least, men in under the cover of night, against the wishes of not just the local community, but the broader country who wants to see all of these men detained and deported. But also it seems very unwise because they're putting it in an area where the likes of tough lads like Liam Tufts live. Now, if you really want a recipe for unrest, it's putting these underwerex. unvetted criminal, often violent criminal, men who come over with the telegraphed predatory intent
Starting point is 00:25:30 that we know they have because of the videos of the people smuggling gangs that entice them with videos of all women and girls filmed in states of undress and drunkenness, almost promising, our wives, daughters, friends as the spoils of war. Putting those kinds of men in the backyard of the kinds of patriotic lads like Liam Tufts is going to be a recipe for disaster if the government wants to maintain these liberal canards, like community cohesion, or at the very least, just keep conducting operation scatter and expect no resistance. So support everyone going down there. And it is very frustrating at this point because there's a lot of the reason these protests are
Starting point is 00:26:10 kicking off is the hope to incite lawful action by local councils and political parties to eventually remove these men from the country. But we know that in the interim years between now and the next election, nothing's going to be really done because whenever Epping Council brought the motion forward to get these men out of the Bell Hotel, the Home Office used public money to launch a legal campaign against the local residents in order to keep the, in many instances, foreign sex criminals, in the hotel near their homes and schools. So the government is basically just declaring demographic warfare on us at this point, and good luck to all the protesters, but we're not going to rid ourselves of
Starting point is 00:26:49 these criminals until a sufficiently patriotic force. takes state power and kicks them out. Indeed. And I mean, look, Connor, things are not looking good. This from Yorkshire Rose, who claims that some of the illegals actually escaped overnight. At 2 a.m. this morning, a worker coming home from Gatwick Airport spotted three illegal immigrants escaping from R.A.F. Kroberra. The police did not seem interested in this information. Only 27 of them arrived yesterday. Hundreds more are expected how many more illegal immigrants are absconding. So there is, unfortunately, I mean, we've seen what happened in EPI. It's almost impossible
Starting point is 00:27:25 to say that there is not going to be violence. But, Conner, what do you think of Douglas Murray's intervention with the New Culture Forum? Well, I thought it was an excellent interview, and Emma is the best person to take up Peter's torch and legacy. Things are a little indeterminate over at the NCF at the moment. People, it won't have escaped people's knowledge. that a deprogram has not been broadcast for some time. I believe the show is going to be discontinued, which is a great shame, so I don't know what my future at NCF is, but I'm glad that Emma is continuing in the spirit of considerate dialogue with some of the most important contributors to Britain's cultural discourse in Peter's absence. As far as Douglas goes, I mean, I know some people on the right
Starting point is 00:28:12 have soured over Douglas because they disagree with them on foreign policy, but I want everyone to remember that Douglas has always been very strong and solid on immigration, identity, and Islam. The three core issues of his infamous decade-old book now, The Strange Death of Europe. He's been utterly vindicated on that, and he's always been very strong on what is going on and what needs to be done to rid us of these problems. And in the interview, he was very sensible, traversed all sorts of ground. And one of the pieces that I wanted to pick up on, Dan, is, I think, an allusion to perhaps one of my articles which I'd written that we both picked up on, which was that Douglas said
Starting point is 00:28:52 there has been a lot of discourse among the young right about identity and immigration, and this disillusionment with the conversation being about Israel and Palestine, either for or against the entire time. And the part he picked up on was that a lot of young lads like me feel it's all well and good to constantly be talking about foreign policy or the necessity for Jews to have a state like Israel to protect them. I'm definitely not against that. But in the words of the character from Wellbeck's submission, there is no Israel for me.
Starting point is 00:29:23 We have nowhere else to go to if the civilization around us crumbles. This is the point I was trying to make to Lord Finkelstein, and I don't think he's going to watch this clip down because he has finally blocked me, because he accused me of saying, all Jews are millionaires, and it's just like, Danny, at this point, you're either so bad faith,
Starting point is 00:29:39 or you're genuinely mentally unwell, and you do better to log off, because it turns out, I'm not the second coming of Adolf Hitler. and if I was, I'd be doing things far worse than having a polite discourse with you on Twitter. But this is the central point. We should be taking our own side. Our own nation should be our primary concern.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And if Israel exists to allow Jewish people to make laws and sustain the kind of demographic security that means that Jewish people continue to exist, that they have a place of their own to call home and they are encouraged to defend it, then we should be afforded the same standard. And currently we are not. And so any policy that protects us, that allows us to maintain our moral integrity, we're also pursuing that demographic security, such as expelling uninvited guests, illegal immigrants, foreign criminals, people who take welfare, people who turn our major cities into the trash heaps of the third world, doing all those things is morally legitimate and necessary.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And I'm glad that Douglas is on board with all of that. Douglas Murray is also speaking out against Leila Cunningham, the Reform UK candidate to be mayor of London, of course, an Egyptian Muslim woman, lots of controversy swirling around her this week. What's interesting about this, Connor Tomlinson, is that when you think about it, Douglas is obviously much more erudite in his language. But effectively, he is saying that my position, that your position that actually we don't want a Muslim mayor to try and stop the Islamist takeover of London. It doesn't make any sense for a Muslim woman to replace a Muslim hater in Sadiq Khan. actually, that's a completely legitimate place to be. And the elites, just dismissing Reform UK supporters who feel that way, are really silly. But what's interesting is there is another issue about Layla Cunningham.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And you were the first on to this, Connor, which is that actually she's just a bit of a grifter. She puts on a very good performance on GB News and Talk TV. She says all of the right stuff, but there's nothing in her background, which actually suggests that she really feels it. Now, Tommy Robinson has been a very interesting person in this discussion because for a long time, he was actually advocating for Layla Cunningham, not to become Mayor of London, but just thought that she was good. But he has now done a deep dive into her background and has come around very much to our way of thinking. I want to show you this, watch. Do some research, he says.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I did some research into Layla's previous tweets, went back through her whole history. Pro-Pride, pro-LGBT, pro-pride demonstrations, London is gay, London is trans, London is Muslim, all this bullshit. It could have been wrote by Sadiq Khan, actually, when I looked at it. So I did my research, mate. I looked on her own acting profile. She, her pronouns.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Now, I know she's coming out strong now, talking very different to these things now, but why now? So I did do my research, because I wanted to see, because I thought, I listened to her debates, I thought, she sounds great. Where's she come from?
Starting point is 00:32:50 When I looked at where she come from, she come from woke bullshit. Now the public have changed. So because the public have changed, so many of these people who are on the side of woke bullshit are now jumping ship because they can see the mood of the nations change. Now everyone has an opportunity to wake up
Starting point is 00:33:08 to see the error of their ways and to change their views. But these are new views by Leila. That's all the point I'm making. That's why I said this Leila. I didn't look into what Sarah said whether it's true, whether it's false, I just said this, Leila. So I don't need to research anything, mate.
Starting point is 00:33:24 You need to research her history. What she says, what she stood for, where she's come from. Previous, I've looked at companies. I've looked at everything. So I've done my research, mate, which is where I found these posts. Have a good night. And, Conner, that was one of your big issues with Leila Cunningham Wright. It's not just the fact that she is a Muslim woman
Starting point is 00:33:45 and she has this Islamic tattoo on her lower arm. and we don't really know what her practicing Islamism means to her politics. You think it's actually much deeper than that. I don't want to say the inverse down, actually. I don't think it's deeper than that. I think it's even more superficial than that. So not only do I not feel represented by a first-generation immigrant Muslim woman. So I just wouldn't vote for that kind of politician anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And I think it's perfectly fine to say we should be able to take our own side and represent ourselves in our own politics. So whoever the patriotic English candidate is, I'll be voting for them. Thank you very much. But even more so, we should be voting for people if we're independent-minded and patriotic and sick of being lied to by politicians, and that's been the only kind of politician that's been in power for my entire lifetime. This is the point I made to Michael Gove in the unaired debate. I did say, if you don't like the politics of the people that are now pushing back on you, realize that you've been in government for more than half their life, so you've created this reaction.
Starting point is 00:34:48 My point is, I think she's had every single political position under the sun, and she's held it when it's been expedient to advancing her career. And, as Tommy said, I think actually very eloquently, frankly, these are very new views for her. They're modish, they're fashionable, and she can articulate them very well, but in a way that feels like she's trying to frantically press every button or try every password in order to get into power. Like, all of her sudden conversion to anti-wokeness,
Starting point is 00:35:17 It seems to be a kind of open sesame in order to get into a position of media and political prominence. And you can kind of see this when she falls back on the phrasing of the enemy, as you have played, contrasted many times, Dan, marking Sadiq Khan for saying that his opponents are far right. And then the moment that you're brought up on Harry Cole's show, she says, the likes of you and me are not the real right, they're the far right, using that sort of gatekeeping language of the enemy. Yeah, that's just, that's just her instinct. This week as well, Connor, in regards to the criticism over her mum and this hotel. And, okay, there doesn't seem to be categorical proof that I have seen yet that it is a migrant hotel, but it's certainly a really dodgy hotel with dodgy clientele. And immediately, Layla Cunningham runs to say, how dare you attack my mother because she's an immigrant?
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's the reason you shouldn't attack her. She's an immigrant dumb good. And I found that utterly fascinating. Now, as you can see there, she has very much hit back about whether it's a migrant hotel. And this was her claim where she attacked Sarah White of Advance UK, who has been investigating this hotel on Talk Watch. And they're trying to insinuate that it's a migrant hotel. You know, I had someone, some random person from advance attend the hotel yesterday and says she spoke to people.
Starting point is 00:36:49 She didn't speak to anyone. It's, this is Sarah's video. No, I stay here. Oh, oh, okay. Oh, is there somebody working here, do you know? Well, no. Usually people just book online. Oh, because it says...
Starting point is 00:37:05 Oh, I see the clean us in the morning. Oh, okay. Is no one actually on the front desk? Okay. That's fine. So you can only book online? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:16 You can book on booking. It says there's someone that looks like death. Oh, just for show. So immediately Sarah White proving well, she had spoken to someone and she explained herself on X writing just a so-called random person from Afantz UK who spoke to people and reported.
Starting point is 00:37:32 If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe the issue is not the reporting. Maybe it's what is unfolding. This was not a witch hunt. This was reporting on Layla Cunningham's mother's Airbnb, which Layla owns shit. something anyone connected to politics should expect. Politics does not get a free pass,
Starting point is 00:37:47 and if basic scrutiny feels uncomfortable, public life is probably not for you. Now, Ben Habib, the leader of Advance UK, has actually backed Sarah's investigation, posting, well done, Sarah, terrific investigative journalism. You were brave to visit and speak to these people. It is outrageous that the integrity of your reporting was questioned by Layla Cunningham.
Starting point is 00:38:06 This is no Airbnb. It is a dump, and it is owned by Cunningham and her family. Certainly not the kind of London we would want from future mayor. Cunningham also claims that a company's been removed from the register of company's house by not filing accounts as just to tidying up exercise. No, it is a criminal offence. This is not mere detail. And here's a little bit more of Sarah White's investigation into what's going on at Lela Cunningham's family hotel.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Hi, Lela. Laila Cunningham, right? just wondering your residents that stay in well your mother's residents that are staying in the new dawn at 95 Inverness Terrace the the people that are staying in there don't seem to know how much they pay and they're here long term but they don't know how much it costs they don't know how much they pay each week and I'm just wondering do you know how much they pay maybe you might be able to answer those questions you know and also wondering like obviously these guys they are deliveroo drivers by the way and there's multiple bikes down the side and on their wages can they afford to meet it like stay here long term just wondering you know
Starting point is 00:39:29 just just asking for a friend i mean the hypocrisy coming out of reform and aren't you wanting to run for London Mayor oh I wonder if Aunt Middleton has anything to do with places like this don't think so so you know just asking for a friend I've been in spoken to multiple people inside and that can't be cast as trespass right because it's an Airbnb isn't it that is completely full but fully booked booked out for the foreseeable future. What kind of contract has your mum got on here? Good night.
Starting point is 00:40:18 So Connor Thominson, what's interesting about this? Okay, we don't know that this is a migrant hotel. And in fact, Leila Cunningham has denied that. But what we do know is that this is an absolutely horrible business. It really is. You know, the people, the women are not safe in the rooms. it's totally run down. And Leila Cunningham says,
Starting point is 00:40:42 you can't criticise my mother's business because she's an immigrant and she should be celebrated as a British success story. That's her argument. Yeah, I'd rather celebrate Britain's domestic success stories than define ourselves by all of the immigrants that we allow to make a life and a living here.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Turns out that diversity is our strength isn't actually going to be that popular, a tagline among reform UK's voters. But the portion we just discussed, Dan, the heart of my problem with Layla Cunningham, she seems insincere, she seems inconsistent. She seems very affective, very emotive, very manufactured. But I don't really know what she believes.
Starting point is 00:41:27 If she's willing to go to Pride one minute and then claim that she's a devout Muslim on the other, even though she just said it just means that it just stops her from gossiping and she, you know, ignores all the sword verses and the bits about not befriending Jews and Christians. She didn't explain why she had that tattoo. She wrote diversity poetry in 2013. She was a conservative hosting Iftar dinners
Starting point is 00:41:48 and wanted to run as the candidate for Rotherham and then now is all in on reform and telegraphing she wanted to be on the mayoral candidate the moment she defected and basically using her diversity body armor as an escalator to get up the queue in terms of running as a candidate. So I don't really trust. her track record and so I don't really trust what she has to say on this, including, by the way,
Starting point is 00:42:13 when she said live on air, the Sarah, the woman that went in, didn't speak to anyone when she has video footage of her speaking to at least two people and one of them was a chap who was going behind the counter who seemed pretty comfortable doing so. Now it is possible, I've stayed in these sorts of Airbnbs before, I don't know if you have, Dan, where there's a code on the on the box to get your keys and it's an automatic check-in and checkout system. So maybe that's what they meant. But the biggest eyebrow raise for me as to the nature of this business is in fact the fleet of delivery mopeds surrounding the property. And the biggest tell of this is, and it won't escape to most people's attention when they walk down their high street and see all these delivery
Starting point is 00:42:50 motorcycles lined up outside of McDonald's or a KFC or something, is the learner plates. Because you can, while you're learning to get a license for that moped or motorcycle or whatever, you can actually sign up to be a delivery driver. So you can, hypothetically, arrive and the very next day, basically if you've got enough cash spare, get yourself a little moped, sign up to learn, and also sign up to be a gig economist, delivery driver for Justi, Deliveroo, Uber Eats, etc. And so if you've got a fleet of those motorcycles parked outside of a hotel with L plates, that seems to indicate that migrant delivery drivers are at least in the vicinity, potentially staying at the hotel. And so she's right to say, well, if they are staying at the hotel
Starting point is 00:43:32 and they're just migrant delivery drivers, how can they stay in quite a fancy, pricey B&B in the centre of London without some kind of subsidy there? So they are legitimate questions to be asked. I know that Lela has said that the article that raises these questions before Sarah's video is defamatory, she can be seeking legal action. So if there are any errors in the actual reporting, of course they should be corrected and addressed. But I don't think people are wrong to ask questions when we have on video the seemingly squalid state of the Airbnb, the shifty people that she spoke to, and then a bunch of L-plate delivery bikes outside, which is usually the marker of migrant delivery drivers. It raises quite fair questions, and all of these questions even being raised in the first place,
Starting point is 00:44:17 atop her being an Egyptian Muslim woman, is why I just wouldn't vote for her, I'm afraid. Yeah, and of course, Aunt Middleton is the alternative. He appeared on outspoken this week and made the same point. Watch. Read the room. The layout of the land. People don't. want another Muslim mayor. Multiculturalism has failed in the UK. It's a failed concept. Hence why I'm saying this, that we need natives, Brits. And that tweet as well, that ex post, that's up for scrutiny. You know, I believe that you should be at least born in the country. You know, no foreign nationals that aren't born in the country should hold these positions.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Even, and I believe if your parents aren't born in this country, then you shouldn't hold those top-tier positions. That would exclude Layla Cunningham. And I wouldn't have said that, like I said, 10, 15 years ago. But only because of the layout of the land where we're at now, where we have lost our identity, our culture is being suppressed. You know, everything is falling apart that we need to put these in place and go, do you know what, let's go back to the roots, let's go back to our DNA,
Starting point is 00:45:20 let's go back to our culture. Connor, I mean, he was not unkind about Layla Cunningham at all. but I think most people hearing Ant Middleton's argument are going to be nodding along saying, yeah, absolutely. He's right. Yeah, I think that's perfectly valid, Dan, though, and this may cause me to be unpopular with the audience. I've watched the full interview,
Starting point is 00:45:44 and I think that's the value of your show, is that you ask questions that people don't usually ask. And during the interview, I was very confused because Ant was saying, well, Leila would actually make a great mayor if it were another time, or if we could actually trust, you know, foreign politicians or Muslims to hold office,
Starting point is 00:45:57 and, you know, Sadiq Khan hadn't brought in such disrepute. She might even make a great deputy mayor, almost hedging his bets to still be included in the reform club after they kicked him out. And I'm sorry, if you aren't willing to stand on principle, I'm sorry, I don't think I can vote for Aunt Eva yet. He hasn't actually convinced me. If anything, he sort of discouraged me.
Starting point is 00:46:16 He said that there could maybe be a deal done still. He was sort of hinting at a joint ticket. I don't think that's good enough, actually. I think we need someone willing to stand fully on principle. if they want to be an independent candidate as well, to be fully independent, not to hedge their bets. And I think the best thing at this point, actually, is one, for us to get clarity on the nature of Layla's family's business, for her to actually answer some of these questions about her inconsistent record and be held to account on this. And predictably, when she doesn't give very sufficient answers, I think, you know, you're two years out from the election.
Starting point is 00:46:49 You haven't invested too much in her, actually. I think reform should just drop her and replace her with a much better candidate that's more likely to galvanize the dispossessing. to disenfranchised native Londoners, those who remain, who are low propensity voters, but who still can win a few boroughs and almost won Susan Hall, the mayoral election, last time around when she, she's a nice woman, but she wasn't exactly a star candidate,
Starting point is 00:47:12 she didn't get out that much of the vote. If you got out more of the vote, you might actually win it, and so have a patriotic English candidate, a lifelong Londoner. Connie, you have an idea. You have an idea. Look at this idea from you. You think you've found out who is going to replace Layla Cunningham.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Bosch, Mr Skinner, who joined Reform UK this week. It was half a joke. But to be fair, at the now on England conference, Tom Skinner was floating the idea he should run as London mayor. And I hope those who were there don't mind me saying this. But I can say at least one person, which was Carl Benjamin, who was having a cigarette with him outside, went, yeah, go for it, mate.
Starting point is 00:47:48 We'd absolutely back you. We'd support you. And in the same week that they put Leila Cunningham up as a candidate, you had Tom Skinner say, oh, I'm going to join reform. my, I support them, even though he was pushed out of the London mayor role because of how they smeared him after joining strictly. And then now you've got his friend, Robert Jenrick, and his friend James Orr, within the party, he's posing with Nigel Farage. Look, if Layla Cunningham's a lame
Starting point is 00:48:10 duck, and I think she is, just put the Boschman in there and whether or not he's the most sharp political mind of our generation doesn't really matter, because by the time hopefully reforms reforms come in, London will be a bit more governable. And you can can just have a sort of cheeky chapy in charge anyway. New Independent Media War has kicked off between Sangita Miska, her of LBC Axine fame, too hard left even for James O'Brien's station, and Tommy Robinson. Now, a lot of this is over Who Funds Who, with Tommy claiming that Sangita Miska has received Katari funding for her new hit piece documentary looking into his funding.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Watch her promote a new piece of work. Why are America's super rich backing Tommy Robinson? So let me ask you, where are the men from England? Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, is the UK's best-known far-right influencer. He's attempting a glossy rebrand from free. extremeist with a criminal record to a cell-styled anti-Islam citizen journalist with the ability to command large, sometimes violent crowds. That transformation is being in part turbocharged
Starting point is 00:49:38 by millionaires and billionaires in the United States. In this two-part special, we investigate Robinson's rise in his relationship with the world's richest man, Elon Musk. But first, we reveal the conservative U.S. pro-Israel backers boosting his operation. We can go back to his days in the English Defense League. There was actually a kind of Jewish Defense League division within the EVEL itself. Why does Israel need a minister to combat anti-Semitism? It's literally the one problem Jews here do not have. I would suspect to the rise in anti-Semitism as well,
Starting point is 00:50:14 to the rise in Islamphobia and to communities that should be working together, being divided and being pitied against each other. I'm Sankitha Meisker. This is the long story short. Okay, so she claims to be totally independent. Tommy Robinson responds, saying we are most certainly over the target, then releases this video. Watch. Oh, I get it. I speak out against Qatar. They pay you to do a hit piece because they fund your channel, talking about who funds who.
Starting point is 00:50:54 they fund you to then do a hit piece on me to try and make the British public think I'm a multi-millionaire so they don't support our ability to work and hold our events. I get it. Shit job, by the way. We'll continue. Leaving you in the background, darling. See you.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Bye-bye. Future belongs to us. We are the media now. Qatar can fund you all they want. We don't care. Doesn't matter. I'm going to expose Qatar like no one has ever exposed them before. Watch.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Now, Sangita has in the past few hours hit back again, claiming that this Middle East Eye is an independent digital news operation. Let's watch what she's had to say. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, but however you prefer to be addressed, I'm glad that you've got in touch because, as you know, we did send you what's called a right of reply. In other words, we wrote you a letter with all of the allegations, made in my film in order that you could respond and we could put your side of the story into my film.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Unfortunately, we never heard back. Now, as for your allegation that I or Middle East Eye are funded by the Qataris, that of course is categorically false, but I think you know that. My reports are completely free of editorial influence or interference by state. state actors, monarchies, individuals, or lobbyists. So I'm going to attach the link to the YouTube video so you can watch the whole full episode and I very much hope you enjoy it. And finally, on a personal note, I'm not your darling. Okay, so sort of hinting there that Tommy Robinson must be misogynist too,
Starting point is 00:52:45 which is obviously something the left do. I mean, Connor Tomlinson of Tomlinson talks, A couple of points I would just make about that Sangita response. Tommy Robinson was wise not to engage in their right of reply. I really do believe that. This is not a good faith organisation. It's just like I don't believe people on our side of the argument should engage with byline times or hope not hate because they are not honest actors. And the fact is, if Sangita Misca really gave a damn about the United Kingdom, why on earth is she reporting this for Middle East Eye?
Starting point is 00:53:18 I mean, I think that does say a lot about her priorities. But what do you make of this feud? Well, Middle East Eye is an interesting outlet, by the way, Dan, because we have reported on the same issue before, myself and Middle East I, but from very different perspectives. So they have reported on Prevent, and it's don't look back in anger department, Ryku, busing imams out to the site of terror attacks,
Starting point is 00:53:40 and having the likes of Dame Sara Khan, prefabricate images of women in a union jack hijab to put on the front cover of the sun after, Alan Henning was beheaded on camera by ISIS, they reported on all of that and they complained that the British government is trying to force Islam to moderate and to create an artificial, inauthentic version of Islam to patronise Muslims living in Britain and around the world. So their chief complaint was that Britain was trying to make Islam look too moderate. Whereas my complaint was the British public never wanted these Muslims in their country in the
Starting point is 00:54:14 first place. They were always against mass migration. None of these terror attacks needed to happen. instead the government spends its time and money gaslighting the British public on behalf of improving the reputation of Islam rather than dealing with the problem. So the Middle East Eye's complaint was the complete opposite to mine. Middle East Eye was basically saying, why aren't you allowing Muslims to be as radical as they want to be? And as far as what I make of this report and Robinson's accusations, well, it turns out it's quite uncomfortable for the Middle East
Starting point is 00:54:41 because the Press Gazette reported in 2017 that a coalition of Gulf states who have been trying to, I won't say moderate, but make overtures, at least in its business dealings and political strategy, to Western nations in recent years, including recently the Emirates saying that they don't want to send their students to the UK anymore and won't recognize any credentials issued by UK University just because there are too many Muslim Brotherhood chapters sponsoring pro-Hamas, pro-Palestine rallies on campuses. And this is why Nigel Farahart has turned around and said, we'll ban the Muslim Brotherhood so we can actually play nice with the Saudis and the Emirates again. In 2017, the Press Gazette reported that Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain
Starting point is 00:55:26 and the United Arab Emirates called on Qatar to shut down all of its news outlets that it funds both directly and indirectly. And they said, among their 13 lists of demands, that some of the outlets included the Middle East Eye, Arabi, 21, al-Arabi, al-Jahid, and a bunch of others. So, Hmm. Foreign states that are saying, look, we're Muslim, but actually like radical Islam or like proper Islam, you know, taking the Quran very seriously, including all the violent verses, causes not just domestic trouble for us, but it makes countries that we would like to send our kids into study and do business in and, you know, shop at Harrods in London, it makes them
Starting point is 00:56:05 more unstable. So we want to actually fight the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood and Qatari funding in those countries. And they singled out the Middle East Eye nine years ago. So it's not like Robinson doesn't have receipts for his allegations, and he has insinuated himself in his response to this smear piece that he is going to investigate further Katari funding because they own a lot of property and do invest in other media companies like Al Jazeera, you know, astro-turfing the anti-white smear merchant Medi Hassan to keep doing
Starting point is 00:56:32 attacks on Matt Walsh and Americans and Brits, etc., Matt Goodwin. So I think I'll be interested to see Robinson's counter-report, and he's not wrong to say that there are foreign states that have sponsored both terror and anti-white pro-Islamic propaganda in our country. Very interesting stuff. I also wanted to look inside another row going on in Reform UK. So this week, Connor, we just had Zia Yusuf and Robert Jenric pretend to make up, even though Jenric believes that Zia Yusuf is an anti-Semi who should be booted out of the party,
Starting point is 00:57:07 but, you know, for the good of the party they've made up. But now there's a split between David Bull, who actually replaced Zia Yucy, Yusuf as chairman of the party and Yusuf himself. Now, it was Basil the Great who pointed this out. And he said, Reform UK, David Bull, admits split with Zia Yusuf over controversial posts. Zia says they shouldn't be friends with the Labour and Tory MPs who destroyed this country. It's why nothing changes whether people vote Tory or Labour, their globalist open borders, Britain hating traitors. David Bull says, I disagree with him profoundly. I think it is really important that you do have friends who you don't agree with, otherwise you live in an echo chamber.
Starting point is 00:57:47 He asks, who do you agree with? I mean, weirdly in this case, Conner, I'm actually probably on the Zia Yusuf side of the argument, but I think what's more interesting to me is that David Bull now feels that he can speak out publicly against Zia Yusuf. Look, no one likes Zia Yusuf within Reform UK, pretty much apart from Nigel Farage. But for a long time, he had an iron grip over the party. that seems to be loosening, is my read of it. Yeah, Dan, you can see the contours of faction wars from the outside. I mean, first of all, it is hilarious to be that David Bull said,
Starting point is 00:58:22 we want friends we can disagree with, whereas we've always called ourselves critical friends of reform, and that was used... They ate us! Yeah, that was even mentioned by Zia Yusuf in a post last year after he reported Rupert Lowe to the police. And so we're on the blacklist. Like, I'm banned from even going to events. I think Ed Sumner did that, actually, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:58:39 But that's fine. You know, we can only have critical friends to our left and from the Uniparty, despite wanting to destroy the Uniparty. You're right in that I would agree with Zia Yousuf on this principle, but the problem is it's not a principle, it's actually like a strategy, because from the outside, you can see factions forming within reform, and I think there's three, right? There is Zia Yusuf, who is now an island, mainly because of his conduct about Rupert Lowe and pissing off the local associations, but Zia Yusuf was the man for a while, not just for Nigel Farage, who wanted to have his successor be David Cameron, but Ravis. in Muslim diversity body armour, so they could never call him racist, and they can never call our party racist. Turns out they call you racist anyway. But also because, you know, Paul Marshall introduced Zia Yusuf to Nigel Farrow, very influential man, used to own G.B. News, now owns the Spectator and unheard as trying to buy the Telegraph, owns Ark, etc. But also he was championed
Starting point is 00:59:30 when he first spoke at the Birmingham Conference in 2024 by Isabel Oakeshot, because Oakshop lives in Dubai, has lots of business interests in Dubai, so does Zia Yusuf. And so there was this synergy of money power within the party. But after the election, I mean, Richard Tice got increasingly sidelined as Zia Yusuf propelled himself up the ranks, became chairman, and was looking like Nigel Farage's successor. And after he crashed out publicly over, over Sarah Pochin's attempt to ban the burqar, which Richard Tice knew was going to happen, didn't tell Zia Yusuf about ahead of time, almost in the move to irritate Yusuf. Yusuf has now been sideline without an official position in the party, now just as head of policy and it's just being
Starting point is 01:00:06 their media hatchet man. The rumor is, as of the last hour, he might be running against Andy Burnham in the Manchester Sea, so that'll be interesting. So Zia Yusufus a faction on his own. Richard Tice and Isabel Oakshot are another faction who have been courting all of the Tory defections. And David Bull is part of that faction because not only was he an old talk host, but of course he was deputy leader when Richard Tice was leading the party. And so what they're trying to do is they're trying to build up their base within the party, one, ahead of an early election, so they can say,
Starting point is 01:00:33 oh, we've got all this government experience so we won't be caught off guard. But two, because Richard Tice obviously wants to be chancellor, and he sees Zia Yusuf as a threat to that Chancellor role. And the third faction is Robert Jenrick, James Orr, Danny Kruger, increasingly, Nigel Farage. And the rumor is, of course, that internally, at reform, people were leaking to Bloomberg about the fact that they didn't want Robert Jenric to join the party, because they saw him as direct competition as either Shadow Home Secretary or Shadow Chancellor and the eventual heir apparent to Nigel Farage, like his JD vans to his Trump,
Starting point is 01:01:03 bumping Zia Yusuf to the back of the queue. So there's a lot of internal faction wars. that aren't being shown to the camera when they, you know, put their arms around one another and present a unified front with some selfies. But really, behind the scenes, of all people, Michael Gove lifted the bail on this the other day and said, you're going to see in the next couple of years an intense fight over who gets to succeed Nigel Farage, whether it's Zia Yusuf, whether it's Robert Jenrick, whether it's another entity that hasn't entered the play yet, certainly isn't going to be Richard Tice,
Starting point is 01:01:30 because most people in the party don't think he's actually that impressive and have mocked his media appearances for being a bit too manufactured and ham-fisted, you know, trying to make con. socialists and net stupid zero a thing. So they're all at each other's throats, and that's why they're having to present this unified front, and that's why it seems a bit unauthentic. I think there's been a rare social media war. I'm sorry, social media win overnight, Connor,
Starting point is 01:01:56 for the Conservative Party. Not often I say that, but Farage gave this interview in Davos to Bloomberg, and again tried to rewrite history. Oh, no, no, no, we never said we'd, we'd, cut council taxes. So this response from the Conservatives is going viral, I think for good reason. Watch. I never once promised we could cut council tax.
Starting point is 01:02:21 You've got to cut taxes. Cut taxes. Lower taxes. We will cut taxes. We can do better for council taxpayers. Several of them said that commission to it. Not true. No, it's not true.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Warwickshire Reform Party Leaflet said, we will cut your taxes. The Worcestershire Party leaflets said we will reduce waste and cut your taxes. That sounds like promises to cut. taxes to me. We will cut taxes. They're all, they all wanted to cut council tax. No, lots of them are having to increase. Not true. Not true. Not true. Not true. At the local level, which is where indeed local elections take place, the leaflet said, we will cut your taxes. When I say something, I keep my word. Urban myth. So it's just so disingenuous, but I think again for me, Connor, what the most depressing thing is here is that Farage is now just accepting that
Starting point is 01:03:08 reform UK is a high tax party. see. I'll give him a bit of grace and say that, well, obviously the local councillors campaigns probably had to be sanctioned by head office, so someone probably should have checked that. But I'll give him grace in two ways. One, I'm sure that when he's speaking, he just means when I'm in charge of everything after the election and can run everything, I'll just cut tax. And that's why he said during the Bloomberg interview, I'm not responsible for any of the local councillors have said, because I only focus on what I say. And to be fair, knowing internal reform politics, Farrah really does just focus on what he says down and he doesn't really pay much attention to those underneath him.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And number two, the problem with the local councils is that most of the tax and spending is locked up in local social care, so, you know, paying for taxis for kids with ADHD to get ferried to school. And all those things are spending as a matter of acts of parliament that you then have to repeal once you win in the government. So I won't give him too much fire for that. The one thing I did notice, though, is every time the Conservatives try and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, they fail miserably because they put out this quite slick, quite funny social media posts you've just played. But in the last hour or so, Robert Gemrick just posted a screenshot of that post. The Conservatives deny the Chief Whip having ever sent him.
Starting point is 01:04:22 So, Kemmy Badernock went on GV News today saying, Robert Gemrick's a liar, he's made it all up, and he's literally just got the screenshot. So the Conservative crash out is utterly terminal. They're going to double down on freaks like James Cleverley, Pritty Patel and Kemmy herself. I saw Neil Ferguson earlier a clip of him going around saying that she's the black Margaret Thatcher and it's just like, yeah, go on, keep saying that. I'm sure that you'll not keep sinking in the polls to even below the 60 seats that your leaked plan thinks it can salvage from a disastrous next election. I've got my criticisms reform as you do, Dan, but I think in regards to the generic defection and the sort of slow death of the party, they're coming out
Starting point is 01:04:58 the better for it. Yeah, and by the way, seeing you've mentioned it, it really is worth looking at this leaked message. So this is Robert Jenrick with the Tory Web after Kemi Baderok said he was lying about being told he has a really special place in hell. And you see, Rebecca Harris, look, she literally says, go away. You're a bloodsucker, user. You have a really special place in hell. Robert Jenrick replies, perhaps we can speak when we're back in Westminster. I value your advice and views.
Starting point is 01:05:30 She responds, running us down in public just to feel good on heaven knows what basis. If you aren't happy with the direction of travel, fine. Please use your party connections to deal with it, but not in public. You and Suella are stranding down now. I mean, she clearly means standing down now. You've lost the plot. So, I mean, this is a bit of a, this is a bit of a might-drop moment, Connor.
Starting point is 01:05:53 It reads a bit like an exchange between me and Danny Finkelstein. So no wonder, Robert Generic was planning to jump ship at the first chance he could. Again, total disaster for Kemi to, with a blurred zoom background and a bad microphone, a bit like a HR girl boss saying that your message in the Slack channel, wasn't very appropriate and you're on your second warning before you'll let go from your contract without severance pay. It was a really bad move for her to push him
Starting point is 01:06:16 because now she's initiated a preference cascade that means the likes of your guest yesterday, Andrew Rosendell, up to five other MPs, as was exclusively revealed on your show Dan. You've really done a good job this week. No doubt, Suella Braverman, and a bunch of other Tories looking to either salvage their failing political careers or make their discontent with the party
Starting point is 01:06:37 that they've long harboured in private, known public. are just going to go over to reform. Now, of course, that does impact reform's perception as being the battering ram to knock apart the Uniparty if you start filling your ranks with said Uniparty. We can be discontented by that. I've voiced my discontent many a time. But the good point about this is that it has revealed that the Conservative Party are incapable of learning. They will never show contrition. They will never, pardon the pun, reform.
Starting point is 01:07:02 And so it's best that they just consign themselves to electoral obsolescence while Chemie continues scribbling in her notebook. Remember to breathe you're the standard bearer of the right, living this complete bubble of delusion, while, I mean, we're finally on track to achieve zero seats. There is a huge war developing in the independent media space between Paul Thorpe. I mean, I absolutely love Paul Thorpe, right? He is an original guy, big Tommy Robinson support, a very successful businessman who has had to flee the country to Spain. And it's been really honest about why. And Mike Graham, my old colleague at...
Starting point is 01:07:38 talk who was sacked in very brutal circumstances and has now gone alone and done his own thing. And even though, as you know, I've been very clear, there's loads I don't agree with Mike on, certainly not his ongoing war with Tommy Robinson. I think it is an exciting addition to the new media space. But some people hope that when Mike got here, maybe he would reevaluate. Some of his views, which maybe was sort of forced upon him when he was in. in the mainstream media. But this leaked exchange on X suggests not.
Starting point is 01:08:16 So abandoned account actually went public with this and said, Mike, as you transition from MSM to Indy, it's vital to understand your new viewers, maybe be a little more humble and less arrogant. Making digs at a prominent voice of the patriotic online space will not ingratiate yourself with online viewers. And then they posted this message exchange, this private message exchange, DM with Mike Graham, where someone sent a leak to him saying, have you seen what Paul Thorpe said today? Mike simply replies, nope.
Starting point is 01:08:55 This member of the public says, it's about you. Mike goes back and says, so what? He's a fucking nobody. Now, I want to show you the video in question, or at least part of the video in question, and you'll understand, I think, by Mike's mocking of Paul Thorpe's accent, why he was so angry. And you know, Mike has his show Plank of the Week, where Paul Thorpe actually branded Mike, the wanker of the week.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Watch. So, not for the first time, Mike Graham, has had a little dig at Patriots, i.e. me, who are unquestionably safe, us staying away from home. to do their thing than to be within the grubby reach of Kirstama Shabana Mahmoud and David Lammy. It's like all these patriots who go live in Spain. I'm a patriot. I live in Spain.
Starting point is 01:09:46 You see, Mike, you can't fool all of the people all of the time. And it appears to me that the riskiest thing that you've ever said or done was actually under the influence of alcohol, which of course you later denied and that unfortunately for you cost you your job and your reputation, which I take no pleasure in. He went on to describe Mike as a career-driven opportunist whose political positions are dependent on commercial imperatives. Now, Mike, I'm a grown-up. I get it and I get you. But there's plenty of people that won't see through exactly what you really are. You are a professional journalist and fair play tell.
Starting point is 01:10:24 You're an opportunist. And a career-driven individual that will go with any flow as long as the pays right. That is your shtick, a word that you like to use. Wind the people up and watch the money come in. And I get that. But you really should stop the cheap criticisms of those who are genuinely fighting for a call, those of us who genuinely care, and those of us who have genuinely made far more sacrifices than you've eaten donuts.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Look, here's the bottom line, old chap. I might live in Spain now. But the real difference between you and me is this. I live abroad because I have to. But I do what I do, despite it being utterly detrimental to my health, my wealth and my career. And I gave up an income worth thousands and thousands of pounds every month to support our people and our cause. And this, whilst you, my friend, were being paid thousands and thousands of pounds by it your money. mainstream media bosses to try and damage us.
Starting point is 01:11:31 And Paul Thorpe went on to say he has got 30 years of receipts regarding Mike Graham Watch. Now you do what you do because you have nothing left to do. Your time in the mainstream media is over. Now you suddenly find yourselves needing us lot, but you want to continue to vilify everyone. And we know that speaking out and setting up your own social media channel that appeals to patriots was your last result, not your first, and that you're doing what you do now because you have to, not because you really wanted to. So Mike, don't preach to me or anyone else about so-called patriots living abroad. I've seen your receipts, and so as everyone else, 20 or 30 years
Starting point is 01:12:16 of towing the political and mainstream media line in return for money. Now, that might fall some, but not for those of us in the know. And like I said before, old chum, I wish you good luck with your rapidly growing YouTube audience and I honestly mean that you're a pro and by the way Mike so am I so a little bit of respect wouldn't go and miss but I'd bet you my last penny that if there wasn't such a large income attached to this for you you'd be doing or saying something else anything else in fact as long as it paid now Conor Thomas and I like both guys but I'd say Paul Thorpe has actually been really sort of understanding of Mike Graham and what he went through and the fact that actually he wants him to make a positive
Starting point is 01:13:01 force in this new independent media world. But what he just really was hoping Mike Graham would do is reevaluate his position on Tommy Robinson. And of course, Mike Graham has said absolutely not. I'm not going to do that. And as a result, this back and forth has gone on. So I know you've had your own personal or professional rouse with Mike Graham. But what do you think of Mike Graham versus Paul Thorpe? I wouldn't necessarily characterize him as Rowsdown. What I think's happened is that Mike, back from his days of the two mics, back when he had his talk show, was known for being abrasive and people that liked him got a kick out of him putting people down and being disparaging. And there's the famous concrete clip where he doesn't come out looking the
Starting point is 01:13:51 smartest, but it's also the comedic value was the point of the clip in and of itself. And so he's carried that over to his conduct, both on X, or formerly Twitter, and now in the alternative media space. And the thing is, with the alternative media space is it's full of people who are presenting shows or watching them because they crave authenticity and consistency. And so if you are just swinging wildly at people insulting them for no reason other than to be the court controversy or because you have some sort of like professional wrestling style personal beef with them, it rubs people up the wrong way. And what else rubs people up the wrong way is, it's not just the Tommy Robinson issue that you've said, where Mike is, I think, just factually
Starting point is 01:14:35 incorrect on that. But when he went on your show, you pointed out that he was dismissive of replacement migration before, that he was dismissive of the likes of the influence of the World Economic Forum, specifically to me, whereas he ended up saying, look, Davos is. isn't a very nice place. They have a nefarious impact on our politics, capturing the minds of people like Kirstama, who says he'd rather be in Davos than Westminster. It really is, a globalist cocktail party that push policies that none of us won. But it's that occupation of ground that other people raced out ahead of him to occupy, you know, took all the slings and arrows, detonated all the landmines, had their careers blown up. And then Mike then occupies that ground when it's safe,
Starting point is 01:15:19 but doesn't apologize to the people that he mocked for occupying that ground in the first place when it was riskier that, again, rubs people up the wrong way. The one thing I will say as a sort of meta-commentary on alternative media personality spats, Dan, if I can, is the late great Peter Whittle once observed that lots of politicians and commentators suffer from what he said is a profound lack of a sense of urgency. And this is before his terminal cancer diagnosis. Peter was very concerned about the legacy that he would leave and the kinds of people who he could encourage to take up that legacy and continue all of his great and tireless work.
Starting point is 01:16:00 And the more time we spend on this like WW-style k-fabe sort of celebrity gossip, bickering between personalities, fighting for the same audience, the less time we actually spend on addressing substantive issues. So I am sick of men two to three times my. age, acting like schoolchildren. Lads, if you really are just going to bicker about this, can you at least sit in a room and hash it out? Like, I offered the same to Lord Finkelstein. I tried to do the same with Mr. Michael Gove and was censored or denied both times. Both of you have audiences that probably have a large amount of overlap. Just sit down and sort it out.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Conn, given it's a Friday, and you did mention the concrete clip, we've got to look at it. Come on. It's great. It is great. Whatever you think of Mike, this is hilarious. What are you glued to, Cameron? Just your screen, unfortunately. Unfortunately. What do you do for a living, Cameron? I'm a carpenter. A carpenter, right. So how safe is that for the climate? Well, I work with timber, which is a much more sustainable material rather than concrete. You work with trees that have been cut down then, don't you?
Starting point is 01:17:13 It's a sustainable building practice. How is it sustainable if you're killing trees? Because it's regenerative, you can grow trees. Right. Well, you can grow all sorts of things, got you? Well, you can't grow concrete. You can. See you, Cameron.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Cheerio. One of the greats, Conner. One of the greats. Okay, well, look, Conner Tonner Tonner-Tonterson talks. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful weekend. Do make sure you subscribe to Conner's amazing channel for much more in-depth analysis on these big issues
Starting point is 01:17:51 that we have discussed today. But of course, because it is a Friday, we're also going to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. Here are your nominees taken from our Union Jackasses across the week. From Monday, it was Tony Blair. Tuesday, Prince Harry. Wednesday, Kare Starmer. Thursday, Emily, mateless. Lots of comments from you coming in.
Starting point is 01:18:11 David Susson says, for me, it's Blair. He brought about everything that is happening up to today and beyond until what he put in place is demolished. You won't get your countries back. That's what Advance UK are building their manifest. does for. Joseph Handley said the only reason Kirstama is evil is because Tony Blair has his hand up Kirstama's ass, same for Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, all under the Blair Institute, all part of Davos, all part of a one world government. The UK is an epic shit show, and it's about time we overturn the mainstream media because we as the people, when we uncover
Starting point is 01:18:41 the truth, we know who's infiltrating us with woke ideological nonsense that makes no sense. I mean, I totally agree. Millennium nemesis says Tony Blair. If it wasn't for him, back in the 90s, Starma wouldn't be doing and getting away with all the shit he's doing now, he'd be facing these repercussions. But John Heir says Emily Maitlis, because though politicians are natural liars, journalists are meant to hold them accountable by level-headed reporting, giving people the facts so they can make informed decisions. The media has become a propaganda mouthpiece for the corrupt old-school Thai cabal that run the plantation under Patriots as the United
Starting point is 01:19:21 Kingdom. That cabal is mainly the land and property owners, monarchy bankers and the politicians aided and bought by the media. And Theresa Harley, well, she says Prince Harry, and she says Prince Harry because he needs the money, he's in debt because of Megan Markle with her BS clothes and BS shows. And I bet Megan Markle has put Harry up to this and told him to shed a tear like she does with her left eye. It's disgusting. The pair of them, I hope the Daily Mail solicitors destroy Harry and see right through him and see he's using them just for money. What a narcissist, just like his wife, such a pathetic excuse of a married couple. Sue Smith says, I think all of them, but Stama Tops, it's just a spineless little weasel. I've never disliked anyone as much as I dislike him. Okay,
Starting point is 01:20:07 okay, let's get to your results. In fourth position with 2% of the vote, Emily Maitliss. We've had, by the way, over 60,000 votes already. You guys are incredible. Thank you so much. in third position with 12% of the vote Tony Blair. The runner up with 15% of the vote, Prince Harry. But he's done the double with an overwhelming 70% of your vote. The worst Britain in the world this week, 70% of you going or slippery stammer. Okay, thank you so much for your company all week. But we're not finished yet.
Starting point is 01:20:42 We're going to move over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow. as the Daily Mail acts as Rebecca English and Charlotte Griffiths from the studio of its Palace Confidential YouTube show following shocking revelations in the Prince Harry trial versus the newspaper. We're going to bring you the independent coverage you simply will not get from the MSM with Royal YouTube sensation according to TAS. So at this stage we come off YouTube, we move to substack for the uncanceled after show. I'd love you to join us there. www.outspoken.live is the address. I hope you have an amazing weekend. I will be back with you 5pm UK time Monday, midday Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Remember to hit subscribe right now on YouTube, please. We are on this mission to get to 700,000 subscribers.
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