Dan Wootton Outspoken - DEATH OF MSM AFTER SKY NEWS & BBC INFECTED BY WOKE MIND VIRUS WITH EX-GB NEWS STAR COLIN BRAZIER

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code OUTSPOKEN at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: http://incogni.com/outspoken A special edition of the Uncancelled Interview. Coming out of retirement after overwhelming demand, one of Britain’s foremost broadcasters Colin Brazier is making his Outspoken debut. A veteran of Sky News before it turned Sly, a launch presenter at GB News, and latterly the nighttime host at LBC quit the industry altogether to become a farmer after refusing to peddle the MSM narrative. But he is here to outline, as shock figures reveal the UK will become a minority white country in just four decades, why what he describes as a “population implosion” will see our very way of life become unsurvivable, as countries with high levels of religiosity will inherit the Earth. So how can Britain be rescued? Or is it too late? We’ll do a deep dive. PLUS: Is Nigel Farage really the UK’s next Prime Minister? Or could Jeremy Clarkson be the British Trump? AND: Is it really the end of Sly News after biased moments like this? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spend, no buyers, no censorship. I'm Dan Wood and this is Outspoken episode number 245 and I'm very excited today. A special edition of the uncancelled interview coming up because coming out of retirement after overwhelming demand, one of Britain's foremost broadcasters Colin Brazier making his Outspoken debut, a veteran of Sky News before it turned to Sly News, a launch presenter at GV News, and latterly the night time host at LBC quit the industry altogether to become a farmer after refusing to peddle the MSM narrative. But he is here to outline as shock figures reveal the UK will become a minority white country in just four decades, why what he describes as a population implosion will see our very way of life become unsurvivable as countries with high levels of religiosity will inherit the earth. So how can Britain be rescued or is it too late? We'll do a deep dive.

Also coming up on the show today, is Nigel Farage really the UK's next Prime Minister or could Farmer extraordinaire Jeremy Clarkson be the British Trump? And is it really the end of Slavery News after biased moments like this? No sir, I don't know. You are. You probably are. No, no, no. Don't keep casting aspersions on me. No, no, I didn't. Calm down. I am commenting. Don't keep saying what I think. This is live on television. No, don't keep telling me what I think.

Dignity. Dignity. This is live on television. Alastair. Dignity. Dignity. This is what you do. You come on and you say no one won the election. Alastair. Alastair. No don't. You talk to me. I'm fed up with you telling me what I think. I don't care what you're fed up with. You can think what you like. I can tell you my opinion. Don't tell me what I think. I will tell you why I think you're reacting badly. Alastair, you're being very... No, I'm not joking. You are being a bit provocative here, not necessarily so... Well, sometimes politics is about passionate things.

I understand that. He is saying Gordon Brown is no longer legitimately a Downing Street. I'm saying Gordon Brown. He is. I'm saying if you look at the performances in the elections, Labour did worse than the Conservatives. No. Oh Yeah, I'm going

A Comprehensive sweep and you know, it's I think again it's important There's been a lot of negative commentary here. I'm sorry to'm sorry that you know sort of slight atmosphere of mourning in the studio and I apologize for sort of puncturing it but you know of course there are question marks about Trump and they're legitimate question marks I think it's fair you know you talk about guard rails and you know Not sure if you can call them highlights to be honest so maybe we'll do the worst bits of sly news later in the show and get Collins take no uncancelled after show today. But don't worry, we are back a week from now. So please do sign up to watch on my sub stack www dot outspoken dot live. You can actually register completely for free to join the Outspoken Revolution.

Substack is an incredible platform. It is a free speech platform. The reason that I'm so determined to have you all become a part of it is because big tech cancellation and lawfare still remains a massive risk for independent broadcasters like me. Substack protects me from all of that. It's also a way that you get the uncancelled after show live and on demand first every single weekday once I'm back next Tuesday. But Colin Brazier is up, so let's go. Colin Brazier, thank you so much for coming out of your MSM retirement. You know that I have been pushing for so long, but I have to tell you, Colin, I have to tell you, I get so many messages and I am not misleading you for one second saying, Dan, you have to get Colin Brazier on the show because he's still posting all of these incredible things on X. So I finally convinced you.

Look, right back at you. If I can indulge in a little light sicker fancy, I want to say thank you for what you're inviting me on. I want to say thank you for launching this extraordinary journalistic enterprise. I remember sitting by the banks of the River Thames, months and months and months ago, we were talking about launching this and I thought, well, Godspeed to you, Dan. You really deserve success and this format deserves to work, but heck, there are a lot of headwinds and you pushed through them. Well done, you. Thank you so much.

No, I do remember that lunch and I wasn't in the best place, shall we say, after what have been a pretty horrendous few months. But I'm such a big believer, as I know you are, that our mainstream media ecosystem is completely smashed. And I think what's interesting about my perspective, but especially your perspective, because of course you did, how many years did you do at, and I, I apologize. 25, 25 years, 25 years and you know we talked about this a lot I mean you know this is audit journalistic settlement in this country that for I guess for centuries you

arrived at the truth by being adversarial you know whether that was in the courts whether that was in Parliament whether that was in newspapers you work in newspapers I worked in newspapers you could buy The Guardian or The Telegraph and you guessed that the truth was somewhere in the middle. You sat in the parliamentary chamber, the opposition said this, the government said that, the truth was somewhere in the middle. Lord Rees came along at the BBC a hundred years ago and said, no, we're going to do away with all that, we are going to decide what the truth is. A group of people right now sitting in a corporate office in West London, whether that's at Sky, whether it's the BBC, will decide what the truth is. It's a nonsense. You arrive at the truth by

being adversarial. You are taking a proposition. It's on offer. I'm not compelled to subsidise it, as I am the BBC, which sticks in many people's crawls. There has to be an alternative viewpoint. And, you know, yes, GB News is part of that story as well. We can talk about that later perhaps, but it is simply vital that we have a variety, a diversity of cognitive opinion, and that's what we've been denied really until the last five, six, seven years.

No, indeed. And I think it's so critical that the state is not censoring and controlling those outlets. But look, I do want to come to the MSM and the state of the MSM later in the show. But given, I think, Colin, what you would describe as the passion of your life, the issues with the UK birth rate, I wanted to bring to your attention, I know you're all across it, this shocking post from Matt Goodwin, who had done all of this research for the University of Buckingham. And he revealed last week, white Britons will become a minority by 2063. The foreign born and their descendants

will be a majority by 2079, and roughly one in five will follow Islam by the year 2100. Now what's actually fascinating, Colin, since that research went mainstream, and I give Matt Goodwin a lot of credit for doing it, by the way, is actually, and I don't Goodwin a lot of credit for doing it by the way, is actually,

and I don't know where you stand on this, but the vast majority of people who I've spoken to believe those figures are actually incredibly conservative. And that given the birth rate and the discrepancies in the birth rate between the native population and the Muslim population, actually, it's not going to take this long. So look, you're the expert on this. Like, how bad is this crisis for the United Kingdom and is there any way to solve it? Matt Goodwin said in his piece that consistently, the demographers and the statisticians have underweighed the rate of migration to the UK. So the weight of evidence suggests that if anything we are under counting. The figures speak for themselves.

Matt Goodwin isn't the first person to come up with this, but credit to him you're right and great to the University of Buckingham because you know these academics need time to crunch these numbers and we have an academy out there, we have a higher education sector, a university sector which does not commission this kind of work because it presents, as we've seen with what Matt Goodwin's come up with, inconvenient truths. The bigger question, and you're right to get to it, is what on earth do we do about it? I got a text a couple of weeks ago from an advisor,

what did you make of what Nigel's had to say about pro-natalism, by which I mean the policies which allow you to encourage people to have all the children they want, not some sort of weird handmaids tale, old white men telling young women to have children, but actually simply saying to young men and women, how can we help you have all the children you want? And what I said to Nigel's advisor was that we've got to get both sides of the equation right. It's not good enough. It's right, but it's not good enough to simply say we must curb immigration unless we lose what it is to be this country. You have to fulfil the other side of the equation. The other side of the equation, short term, is

to make sure that all the people who can do the jobs that currently migration has been called upon to fill need to be, to some degree more than we currently do, compelled to work. Yes, because Colin, sorry to interrupt, but I think it's worth pointing out because of the political angle on this, you are actually opposed, I believe, because I read your column on this. You are opposed to reform UK lifting the two child benefit cap. I am. I am. I think because when you've got the much bigger problem right now in the UK, is people simply not having any children at all in voluntary childlessness.

You know, I look at my my six children who are coming into that. is people simply not having any children at all, involuntary childlessness. I look at my six children who are coming into that, my oldest is just turned 26, they're coming into that world now where they're saddled with student debt, they're looking at the prohibitive cost of both childcare when that's necessary, but housing, housing is the key thing. And of course, so much of our housing stock,

they're really good. In my home city of Bradford, I think of those big Victorian terraced houses, which, you know, are simply not accessible anymore. They have gone to New Britain, so if I can put it that way, there's been a flight to the countryside where new builds happening, yes, but the houses are pretty pokey and they're expensive. So how do we make that equation balance? We have to not indulge in fantasy politics like the two child, lifting the two

child cap. That's not helping people who can't have any children at all. It's not helping those who've had one and think crikey that was tough, that was expensive, we can't have another. I wrote a book then 15 years ago lamenting the growth of the one-child family. I know people at the time said you can't, you've got friends, I've got friends who for a variety of different reasons only have one child. But it is true that many people would love a second child, they simply feel they can't afford it. And I think there are brilliant reasons why we need to have, why society needs families, multi-child families where an only child has a sibling. So let's not worry too much about those families that have five, six, seven kids living sometimes

in quite luxurious accommodation funded by you-me taxpayers. Let's worry far more about those people, those young people, young Britons who are desperate to have a family. I'm not talking about those people who don't want kids, if that's their choice, have your three skiing holidays a year, you know, it's cream carpets, that's fine. I'm talking about those people like my children, who would, I think, want children, but the headwinds against them are so strong, so, so strong, that it's going to be tough. We've got to make it simpler for them. Yeah, and I think what's really interesting, of course, and what the mainstream media avoids

talking about, and to be frank, what Reform UK also avoid talking about, is that religion really does come into this. Like, there is no issue in terms of the Muslim population in this country and their birthright, Is there? I mean, it's... It varies according to religiosity. That's true of all religions, you know. So, Salafists and Dhabandis will obey the injunction to have more children. Orthodox Jews will have more children than than Reform Jews. The biggest birthrights in the world pretty much is in Utah, because of the Mormons. Yes. So, yes, what matters is religiosity. I'm not practicing Roman Catholic, but there are lots of Catholics who have family sizes indistinguishable from those of the broader secular

population. You have practiced what you preach, Colin. Reminder, how many kids? Well, six when I last looked. Was Boris Johnson up to now? Oh, he's well overtaken you. He has well overtaken you. But does it matter? Does demography matter when we're having this conversation?

Because I think this is where there is the biggest split on the right in the United Kingdom now, because you have Nigel Farage very, very conscious of his coverage in the mainstream media, very conscious of the fact that he believes that the only way he can get to number 10 Downing Street is with a significant Muslim vote saying it just doesn't matter. Demography doesn't matter. They don't even really want to talk about this Matt Goodwin report. Whereas actually the so-called online right, as we're now described, I guess, say, well, no, no, no, it really does matter. It does matter to the United Kingdom as a Christian

country, the demography of our country. And obviously there are a lot of non-white Christians as well. I'm not disputing that for a single second, but do you think demography and the changing demography of this country is part of the conversation in regards to birth rate? No, in a sense, part of that is absolutely explicable, which is that demographic problems are 20 years away. And you know, as with long term infrastructure, as you could even argue for things like climate change, if you can't see it today, it's difficult to think too much about tomorrow. But the truth is, some very grown up conservative politicians around the world are thinking really seriously about this.

If you look at what Maloney is doing in Italy, having very candid conversations about birth rates, if you look at what the Hungarians have done under Viktor Orban, and I know that to some degree the jury's out and whether it is true that you can simply sort of bribe people, you know, women not paying any income tax as soon as they have two children, how much that really works and whether culture matters more than economics, we can argue about that. But I think we've gone way beyond the point now where anybody can maintain that the state does not have a dog in this fight. It does. That's not to say of course that an individual, that it's any business of the state to wave the finger at an individual and say you must have children. Whether you decide to have a family or not is entirely a personal

matter. But whether the state can remain neutral on the question anymore, given what you're saying and given some of the graphs you've flashed up on screen, Dan, showing what happens in 30, 40 years from now, the state can no longer remain neutral about that. And I look at the work of a friend of mine, Paul Moreland, who's written three books now looking at this. Each of his books grow ever and ever more alarmist, I mean that kindly, about some of the projections we're looking at. People are putting their head into the sand. He's one of the people, Viktor Orban, who hasn't done it. I know it's easy to denigrate him.

And if I can just make a very brief segue, Dan. Please. You flashed up a picture of me from 10 years ago. I looked a lot better. And I was on the border between Serbia and Hungary. Yes. My eyes were streaming because we'd been tear gassed, actually by Hungarian riot police. I'd like to get into this later if we can,

because the way that day unfolded tells us an awful lot about the way the mainstream media work. But in terms of him, in terms of Viktor Orban, I remember just trying to tell that story in 2015, and 10 years ago, it was a real red pill moment for me, Dan. It really was. Because it seemed to me entirely explicable, entirely explicable what the Hungarians were trying to do. They were saying, no, you don't have permission to come into our country.

You don't come into our country. And yet the way that story was reported by my colleagues was shattering to me. Maybe it's because I grew up in Bradford, maybe because I still have family who live in Bradford. You know, my late stepfather, I remember him telling a story about he was a taxi driver talking to a Pakistani taxi driver who said this is our town now. Or my sister, one of my sisters who still works in the co-op being called a white bitch by an irate customer. So I don't have that middle, that reflexive middle class view that racism is only ever a one way street, that, you know, that changing demographic patterns or immigration doesn't

have an impact on the working class in particular. It does. I've seen it. And, you know, Orban has realized, has recognized that pro-natalism and demography long term are part of the solution. So where do you stand, Colin Brazier, on this growing debate about whether the UK should ban the burka? Because I don't think it's easy for people like me who view ourselves on the libertarian side of conservative politics. This was obviously sparked by this question by the new Reform UK MP Sarah Pochon to slip restart in PMQs last week and of course then caused the civil war within Reform UK, which I think

to be fair, and I had reported on this, had been bubbling under the surface, but it really caused it to erupt. So I'll get your thoughts, but first this is what she said in Parliament. Given the Prime Minister's desire to strengthen strategic alignment with our European neighbours, will he, in the interests of public safety, follow the lead of France, Denmark, Belgium and others, and ban the burqa? I welcome her to her place, but I am not going to follow her down that line. Now that she is here and safely in her place, perhaps she could tell her new party leader that his latest plan to bet £80 billion of unfunded tax cuts—he had no idea how he was going to pay for it—is Liz Truss all over again? Although considering I think she was a Conservative member when Liz Truss was leader, I should

probably won't. So Slippery Summop just went to his pre-written script, right? Because he knew Pochon was going to ask a question, so he just went to his pre-written script, not even prepared to have the question. Nigel Farage has not come out specifically and said the Burka should be banned but believes there needs to be a national debate. Where do you stand? I'm with you, Dan. I mean, natural libertarian instincts recoil from the idea of telling people how to dress. However, however, however. There is a however, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember working in Paris in the early 2000s, Yeah, I mean, I remember working in Paris in the early 2000s, covering the story, because the French had banned the burqa in public buildings and hospitals and schools, and covering

some of the marches that followed in Paris thereafter. I remember going to Afghanistan and Pakistan after 9-11, spending months there, and certainly in Afghanistan, seeing the Burka. And then in the years that followed going back to my native Bradford and seeing the Burka slowly, and this had been building actually for a while through the 90s, seeing the Burka slowly replace South Asian dress. So this essentially Arabic way of dressing, a very Salafist way of dressing, slowly filtering into mainstream Muslim British society. Is it in and of itself a bad thing? Well, of course it is. Of course we read so much from faces and particularly from people whom we

don't know. And particularly in communities where there is so much, there is so little trust, there is so little social cohesion, and for people to set themselves apart and become, by dint of the way they dress, self-segregating is really dangerous. Honestly, Dad, I don't know what the answer is, and I can understand why Nigel would be wary of offering an immediate prescription. Is it a debate? Of course it is. Was she right to bring it up?

Of course she was. And that tells us a story about the shifting over to window that changes. When she asked that question, she was patronized by Stama. It was her first question, what an enormously difficult moment for her. She bravely raised a topic that needed to be raised and her reward was, well, you saw it in the faces of the Labour front bench who sneered

at her. It was a necessary question. I don't know the answer to it, but I know it was right to put it. Well, of course, but we know why Labour sneers, don't we? Because they are completely terrified of the fact that at the next election, they're not just going to be destroyed by Reform UK in the red wall or on the right, however you want to describe it, but they're also going to be destroyed, including by the way in seats held by Yvette Cooper and Wes Streeting and Ed Miliband by sectarian politics, which has been introduced into the United Kingdom. They don't want to have the discussion. That's why you'll get so called, you know, woke feminist

Angela Rayner happily attending a mosque where she's literally surrounded by all men knowing full well that a woman would not be in there. But more disturbingly, for me, Colin, it also means that they're not prepared to talk about what is really going on in the mosques up and down this country. Now I actually used to live in East London in Tower Hamlets. Now when I had Sahal Ahmed, an amazing young man actually, he's a Muslim who was plotting to bomb up, to blow up Canary Wharf. And British born guy happens to be a gay Muslim who de-radicalize, but when he told me on this show about what British born young Muslims are being taught

in the mosques of East London, well, for me, that was the red pill moment, you know? Because this is not mild stuff. This is literally women should never leave the home and by the way if you're a gay man, which this guy happened to be, hence his de-radicalisation, you will be thrown off the top of a building even in the capital of the United Kingdom. So this all links together. This all links together.

And I'm afraid a huge portion of the blame lies at the feet of the tribe that you and I used to make our respective livings in at the foot of mainstream media because of their lack of skepticism, but in particular, their lack of curiosity. You mentioned your friend, I'll mention mine, Ed Hussein, who similarly grew up in East London, devout Muslim, late teens, early twenties, veers off into really quite strident Islamism, wrote an amazing book called The Islamist, but

then a book which I recommend everybody reads called Among the Mosques, and there are stuff happening and there are things being preached, things taken for granted, not necessarily out and out radical stuff, but a sort of overall set of views which are tolerated in some British mosques which ought to be challenged, but more importantly we ought to know about and discuss – this is in Britain, these are British people, these are British Muslims – what goes in a mosque, what is said and preached in a mosque affects us all. And yet, to my uncertain knowledge, the only well-known book that's investigated what's happening

is from Ed Hussein. It ought to be part of the warp and weft of what journalism looks at, investigates and talks about. And yes, by the way, what is discussed in Parliament. But it won't be, and you and I both know why, because it will present us with inconvenient truths. Well, of course. But when it comes to the mainstream media column, there is no excuse.

We know why it happens. They are so terrified, especially by the way, places where I used to work, which are considered to be on the centre right, I'm thinking about the Sun, I'm thinking about the Daily Mail, because they live in daily fear of being accused of racism, of being accused of being far right. And that's what I actually think is the most chilling thing. That fear is now so prevalent amongst the mainstream media that you know full well so much about what the mainstream media does and their power is just about story selection. Story selection is everything. Story selection and the way you prioritize some stories and ignore others. Something happened,

Dan. I don't know what the year was, but somebody, maybe one of your viewers, can help us with this. But there was a year when it happened, when the weather changed, and by which I mean, I remember being on Sky post 9-11, the world was in tumult, as Tony Blair said, the rules of the game have changed, and they had done. But what was happening, say, at Sky was that there was a freshness, there was an openness, there was a candour about the conversation around Islamism, about whether to what extent the actions of terrorists were informed by their religious, underpinned by their religious fervor. And I remember interviewing somebody like Anjan Chowdhury, he's still in prison, he later went to prison, I think, outspoken Islamist firebrand preacher.

But I remember, I must have interviewed him three or four times, four or five times, in a very open, critical way. And at some point in the noughties that changed. At some point it became difficult, and it's now become impossible, to question whether there is any linkage between the creed and how it's practiced. I don't know when it happened, I can guess as to why it happened, but it's left us in a much worse place because sunlight is the best disinfectant. I hate this idea, and I'm sure you do as well Dan, that somehow you can't talk about certain things because you don't fit. Sometimes my daughters have said this to me, well dad you can't understand what it's like, you're a man, yeah can you talk about abortion? Because I think everybody's entitled to have an opinion about everything. There's

brilliant, there's Anjan Chowdhury. And I'm not a Muslim but I am British, I can have a view on the way Islam is preached, just as Anjan Chowdhury can have a view on how my Christianity is preached, or how secular Britain goes about its business. That's the nature of a democracy. Something happened then, something happened in the late noughties that moved us away from candid conversations about Islamism and Islam. I remember John Reed, the former Labour Home Secretary, was it after 7-7? I can't quite remember, but at some point in the in the noughties addressing a press conference in East London and saying that the word Islam literally means peace. And I remember thinking everything I've read says it's not peace, it's submission.

But to challenge him now, to challenge somebody on a mainstream media interview without being accused of Islamophobia by putting that observation to them. I think it would be possible now. And I think something's changed dramatically in the last 15, 20 years. Yeah, it has, hasn't it? I mean, I think so much about my time in London, and 7.7 was absolutely seminal. I mean, I moved to London as a 21 year old at the end of 2004. And my god, that city was brilliant at that point. I mean, it was an absolutely incredible city. But the specter and the shadow of Islamist terrorism has hung over our city for that entire time. Because

if you were on the tube on 7-7 as I was, if you were evacuated on the tube that day, you will never forget the consequences of it. And I never have. But what I have seen is our reaction change. And after the Ariana Grande bombing, when the whole country and the whole media from the British Bashing Corporation with their big concert down, decided that the response was don't look back in anger and let's talk about bumblebees and let's talk about the resilience of Manchester, which is obviously incredible thing, rather than the fact that Islamist terrorists, homegrown, radicalized, had actually blown up youngsters,

was so fundamentally shocking to me. But, but I see a change and I saw that change. It was a moment in time I was actually broadcasting live here on Unspoken at the time. It was that day, that moment, that Keir Starmer, Slippery Starmer as I called him, turned up to Southport the day after that massacre, which stunned the country. There were people, locals, you know, he tried to dismiss them as far right agitators. They weren't. It's now proven that the people who were there who were heckling him were locals. Some of them even friends and family members of those three young girls who had been massacred

by Axel Ruda Kibana, who was absolutely radicalized by Islam. He had an al-Qaeda training manual in his room. He's now a practicing Muslim behind bars at Belmarsh. You know, the mainstream media will never say that, but that is the reality. And I sensed that change. I feel like the change from Manchester to Southport was so fascinating. There was so many opportunities for the mainstream media to recapture public credibility. And instead they went down the corrosive road. I was at Manchester for the Arian de Grande concert for a week or so, but before that I'd been at places like Soos and Nice and Nairobi and Paris,

and I could go on and on and on for the Standing by the Police tape, and coincidentally there was a different approach, say the way the French media went about it, much more candid, I think if you look at the French media went about it, much more candid. I think if you look at the public discourse there, it's much more willing to take on some pretty sacred cows in a way that we just aren't. What is it about our media that found it so difficult to address honestly what was happening

and ending up, you know, the whole sort of, it was ritualized, Dan, it was ritualized. I remember in Manchester, city of teddy bears and candles and cards and helium balloons, and thinking then, if 10 years ago there would have been conversations about what was really happening in Mancunian suburbs, which had incubated an Islamist philosophy, but now we're just talking to people about love and peace, and they're all very creditable virtues, but they don't really, they will not take you to the nub of the question to some of the hard decisions and choices that may have to be made in the future. So for me, that I'm with you Dan, that was what happened in Manchester in particular was the apotheosis.

It was the point when people realized, and a lot of people saw that coverage and just saw the mainstream media is getting this so wrong and it was deeply corrosive. Could Jeremy Clarkson be the British Donald Trump? This is a question now increasingly being asked in political circles who wonder whether Nigel Farage and Reform UK have what it takes to enter number 10 Downing Street but realize that our politics is completely devoid of the sort of individual who could lead a populist revolution to change the country, a MAGA style movement here in Great Britain. Now obviously Clarkson has been a national traitor for such a long time, has always been anti-woke, even at the British Bashing Corporation

when you look at how he exited for example that fight over a steak sandwich. I mean this is without any doubt a man of the people but I think his elevation to almost godlike status came as a result of Clarkson's farm. For the first time, farming became very sexy in the modern media landscape. And it really has elevated this man's position as someone who has the potential to lead a movement. Now, Colin Brazier, you, of course, went into semi-retirement because of your passion for farming, which is obviously quite a U-turn. But something has changed, hasn't it, with Clarkson and Clarkson's farm? We saw those protests, we saw the way that he has been able to create this populist revolution. I guess maybe the big problem is that he's

not mad and he can't think of anything worse than trying to become Prime Minister. He's got the gifts, Dan. He's got the gifts. I remember going to a protest in Whitehall and hearing him speak there. You may recall he had the little set too with Victoria Derbyshire from News First, which he had brilliantly. But he spoke so well, he spoke so passionately, he spoke knowledgeably as well because he now knows where of he speaks. I know he's got the lolly, I know he's got the money and when he says on Clarkson's Farm that this year we didn't make, we made 13p or whatever, it doesn't really matter because he's got squillions from his TV exploits. He didn't need to be speaking actually at that

farmer's protest. He does it because he loves farming and I think I've come to realise something that he probably came to realise years ago, which is that farmers are the best of us, they really are. I just, funny enough, I was reading, just before I came on an email from a friend of mine, a farmer in North Yorkshire, who was the long email which he was writing from the hospital in Middlesbrough, where he was recovering from eight broken ribs, a punctured lung and various other injuries sustained when his tractor overturned while he was playing a field on an incline. The rates of injury and death in British farming are depressingly high still. These are people who literally give their lives to feed the rest of us. I, well, you know, semi-retirement went to the Royal Agricultural University at Silent Sester

which had some great things going for it and some not so great things about it, but the best part of it was the weekly visits to farms. And in all those visits to large farms, small family farms, big corporate enterprises, regenerative, the whole suite, the whole sweep, what was absolutely the common denominator was every single farmer I talked to. Clarkson came up. Clarkson's a hero. Thank God for Clarkson. He's demystified farming for a generation of people who do not know what's happening on the other side of the hedge. He's been brilliant for public understanding. With the politics, I don't know, you know, everybody who does a job like the one you're doing down at some point will have thought about going into politics, or at least it will have been suggested to them, why don't you go into politics? Well, sometimes the answer to that question

is because maybe I can move the dial a bit more sitting there. I don't need to submit myself. So the admittance would be very honorable, I would say, standing for elections, very honorable thing to do. But sometimes you can move the dial more by addressing the TV cameras. And I think he's made that decision. And if he has his right to have done. Yeah, I mean, I am certainly one of those people who has zero interest in it. What about you, Colin? Come on, you must have known about it. You must have Nigel Farage, your former colleague, calling you up saying, come on, you would be the perfect Reform UK MP. I have a recurring dream about it, Dan. I'll tell you over a drink.

about it Dan, I'll tell you over a drink. But I know it's there's a friend of my dear friend of mine Alex Dean who stood in Finchley, formerly Margaret Thatcher's seat and he lost I mean he lost by 4,000 votes astonishing. I mean he ran a really good campaign. I don't think I'm speaking out of court when I say it's he would have taken a pay reduction if had he won the seat. When he was running his campaign, he couldn't run his campaign out of the main office because it had been firebombed.

He's got a heavily Jewish constituency and there was a lot of anti-Semitic violence going on at the time. So as an MP now you face some personal, physical, personal jeopardy. Let's not forget that as well. That's, you know, not a particularly attractive prospect. It's a really honourable calling. I really admire people who become MPs and I do not subscribe to this worldview that says they're all in it, they're all venal, they're all in it for themselves. The money's

not that great actually in the scheme of things. There's Alex, terrific guy. It's a calling that puts huge strains upon relationships with children and spouses and partners. I applaud all those people who are willing to do it and submit themselves to the test of the electorate. Maybe one day, Dan, maybe one day, but not today. I just wanted to have a look at that moment, that really fascinating moment with Jeremy Clarkson, you referred to it earlier. Jeremy Clarkson takes on his former employer, the BBC at that Farmers March. And you talk about moments that moved the dial dial and I think that this was one of them. I'm here to support farmers. So it's not about you, it's not about your farm and the fact that you bought a farm to avoid inheritance tax? Classic BBC there, classic. Oh yeah, okay let's start from the

beginning. I wanted a shoot, okay, that's even worse to the BBC. I wanted to shoot. Which comes with the benefit of not having to pay inheritance tax. No, I do. Where should they get the money from if it's not from farmers? From farmers? We hear that everyone. With assets. We've been seeing things, you should be paying for everything. Which, okay, do you know how many people pay inheritance tax in this country?

It's 4% of the state. What? 4% of the state. What? 4% of the state. 4% pay inheritance tax. 96% of the population of the UK does not pay inheritance tax. After this becomes law, 96% of farmers will. Where have you got that figure from? Who here, can I just ask, who here is going to be unaffected by these changes? No one.

Where have you got the 96%? Well you've got 96% What? Well the same place that Rachel Reeves does, in the middle of her head. What is your message to this woman? Please back down. Please. And get the money from her. I'll get it. I'll tell you where you're going to.

Walk into any of the offices around here. If you don't understand what somebody's job is, fire them. Yes, yes I want them as Prime Minister but honestly it was one of those moments wasn't it where it feels like wow he's a star of the BBC he now acknowledges that the BBC has never been more out of touch. This issue that he's so passionate about, they don't even understand what they're asking. I thought it was amazing. Yeah, I agree. I agree. And just, I mean, without being indulging in too much media navel gazing down, just the tactic of turning to the

crowd. You know, this, you know, the way TV studios work, I was saying to somebody the other day day that's often said that a TV camera will put on, you know, 10 kilograms onto a presenter's face. That was the old cliche, wasn't it? Actually, what it really does is adds about 20 points to their IQ. Most of the people who work in mainstream media studios, and I include myself, are not as clever as many of the general public think they are. It's just that you happen to know first, you're at the center of the information matrix, and you know what's going on and you develop the habit of being withering. Victoria Derbyshire was doing it there, this is that withering, slightly

sneering, contentious, you know, Paxman used to say, the relationship between politicians or the person you're interviewing and a journalist, or between a dog and a lab post, the person you're interviewing, and a journalist talks about that between a dog and a lab post. It's a horrible attitude. It's a horrible, horrible attitude, allowing yourself to be bullied, or being bullied, by somebody in a TV studio. It happens all the time.

It was all with Jen Rick just the other day, at Good Morning Britain. You see it all, all the time. What Jeremy Clarkson did so brilliantly there was, he said, no, it's not just you and the weight of the BBC behind you and me, I've got all these people and he brought them in. So as an act of sort of slightly panto choreography, it was absolutely peerless. He is brilliant at that, but he also just refuses to be bound into that omerta, by which I mean, if you'd been a lifelong employee of the BBC, you never slanted off afterwards.

I suppose that would have applied to me at one time as well. I got 25 good years out of Sky News and I'm very happy to slant them off now. I consider that to be part of my responsibility in a sense, because there were people who in the early days of Sky thought it was one thing, it became something else. Clarkson's the same. He does not feel that he owes the BBC a living. He was one of their stars and he helped put viewers on. Good for him to then be red-pilled and come out and feel he can say what he says. Just one final thing. I would just say, Dan, just on Clarkson, during lockdown, some of my kids were at home and I was working up in London a lot.

And you know, as many parents will recognize that constant striddle you have to try and stop a generation that is suffused in a woke culture becoming woke, here was part of the vaccine, the woke vaccine that my children had. And it was probably one of the wakest of my children who started watching Top Gear. She doesn't have any appreciation of cars, she's not a petrolhead, but it was brilliant

that that kind of take the Mickey humour, very British sense of humour, very anti-woke and they, you know, she and some of my other kids, they really got that. They were becoming addicted, they were addicted to Top Gear and Jeremy Clarkson. And actually, I was thrilled by that. I love the idea that in a culture which just makes them, you know, Doctor Who and all that garbage, here was Clarkson, the voice of common sense. Indeed. Indeed. And I think we both agree that that club that these folk from mainstream media used to be part of needs to be smashed. And also actually too, I think you're so right to point out that combative style of interview doesn't achieve anything now. And now that

we have long form podcasts, which made such a difference during the US election, there's a realization that actually that's probably the most illuminating way to really find out who someone is rather than some five minute clash in the studio of Wokai TV or the British Bashing Corporation. But look, I do wanna talk about Sly News, okay, because you were there for 25 years,

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And guess what? Go woke, go broke broke the ratings have plummeted new figures show it lost 80 million pounds in the past year all the big names from Eamonn Holmes to Kay Burley have been sacked because they were simply on too much money and now the broadcaster is preparing to go online only, effectively admitting the end of their business because trust me no one is watching Sly News online, no one is watching the electoral dysfunction podcast with Bev Rigby and her lefty mates. Someone who was there of course during the golden days of Sky News because it was Sky News back then, it did

a good job, was Colin Brazier. He was of course alongside me, a launch presenter at GB News as well. But Colin, you really became a household name as a result of your time at Sky 25 years. How disappointed are you to see the decline of this broadcast, which Colin, there is no doubt in it now. I'm sorry, this is there might be some individual journalists there, but this is now an activist organization, Sky News, the every decision they make when they cover the news is coated in wokery. No, you're right, Dan, you're right. I remember tweeting, retweeting something that Andrew Neil said about Sky News. I retweeted it with a twist and said it's become a place for activism, not journalism. It's become the paramilitary wing of Channel 4 news.

I remember in just the beginning of lockdown, so you know know, was it 20, 21, and driving up from Wiltshire to go and do my shift at Sky. And I wasn't doing my usual shift. I was filling in for somebody else who was off sick. And the producer called me and said, well, okay, what we do, you'll be at your presenter's desk. And then at eight o'clockclock you will get out of your desk, from behind the desk, you will stand at the big news wall and we'll take a live

shot of Boris Johnson in Downing Street, we'll take a live shot of Keir Starmer leaving the opposition wherever he is in North London and they'll be clapping, they'll be clapping for the NHS and we'll have a picture from Wolverhampton of members of the public doing the same and then you will start clapping, you will start clapping and then you go back to your desk and I said look I didn't get up from my desk and applauded the news wall for the last load of heroes when they were coming back in coffins from Afghanistan and Iraq into Bryce Norton. If you deify any one group you forfeit the right to criticize them when the wheel of news fate turns half a click,

as it always does, and it has done with nurses. You know, nurses are just like the rest of us. There are great nurses and awful nurses. There are kind nurses and cruel nurses. And to assume that they are some monolithic bloc who can only be worthy of praise was a dangerous journalistic precedent to set. I said that to the producer and I said look I'm not prepared to go to the wall for this at the end of the day because I've got you know my widower with six kids but I really don't want to do it and fair play to him it didn't you know push did not come to shove in that instance but for me that absolutely encapsulated how Sky News had moved from an organisation which simply told you how it

was to one that told you how to think. Totally. And we saw it happen, didn't we, at GB News? Because they didn't really appreciate that GB News was going to be a threat. I mean, you left and that was a big deal. But you left because you admitted, you know, I have an opinion now, and I'm going to acknowledge that I have an opinion now. And what happened of course, Colin, is, yep, it was bloody difficult, we know what those early days were like at GB News, okay? I mean, I think I've still got some...

Well, if I was woke I'd say that I had BDSD or something from, you know, we'd been used to working in studios where, you know, the lights turned on and you could throw to the correct clip and, you know, the sort of basics. You could hear your guests, the basics. But they laughed over at Sly News. They treated the launch of GB News with such derision and they continued down this woke path. Do you remember they were broadcasting something called the Daily Climate Change Show, which was like, I think it was half an hour a day of just fear porn, ludicrous fear porn of like, you know, Buckingham Palace being flooded and that type of thing. Dan, what everybody needs to remember is that it was all part of a corporate pitch.

And by the way, predates the takeover of Comcast. Of course Sky did a half an hour environmental show which nobody watched because they were greenwashing, the company was greenwashing. Part of the decontamination strategy, because Sky were very sensitive to the previous ownership of Ruben Murdoch somehow They felt that was discreditable. So we're gonna plant loads of trees and we're gonna half have a half-hour Show about climate change Meanwhile in the background stuff was happening like the inclusive language guide

Which for me was probably one of the final nails in the coffin there were recommending you use words Like you avoid using words like mother, father, brother, sister. I remember thinking as this thing came down, and by the way that wasn't directed at journalists, it was for the entire company, but it inevitably was going to have a chilling effect on what you said even on air. I remember thinking there are 30,000 people who work for this company. If you put this inclusive language guide from Sky to the Nigerian security guards and the Filipina cleaners and the guys working in the kitchens. It would never pass muster. But these are people who are not

interested in democratic processes, I'm afraid. No, they're absolutely not. And of course, what happened is their ratings tanked, right? Like, so actually, GB News, this insurgent force, we had no budget, we may have had no technology that worked, but actually Colin, and remember Andrew Neil left and you had to take over the 8pm show. I was on at 9 o'clock for three hours a night at that point five days a week. But, but there was such a desire for some organization to take on that establishment narrative that actually I would argue against all odds, we were able to pretty quickly overtake sly news in prime time in the ratings. And all of a sudden, there was panic. Because it was because it was like oh shit they're not a joke actually they're beating us and then then you get the boss of sly news moving to the off

communists to actually try and launch this shutdown which i think to some degree has been successful. I can't I don't know enough about that to endorse that. And I'm gonna just challenge one other thing as well. I don't know whether Kay Burley was sacked or not. And I know that on our side of the aisle there are lots of people who are unkind about Kay. Can I just say this in a spook of even-handedness? When I was at Sky and my late wife was ill, nobody

did more to support me during that time, including making sure that some big hefty medical bills got paid for by Sky's private health scheme than Kay. And so can I just in a sprit of openness and even handedness, I have to say that. No, I always want you to be honest. I mean, gosh, you take Kay Burley, my experience with Kay Burley is very interesting, one very, very interesting one. She I mean, look, you can't deny that she was a legend of the industry. We actually used to be tight, you know, so she would, she'd take on young journalists and she'd invite them out to loads of social events and she liked having her crew around her and I

think she liked having a lot of young men around her and I'm not saying in a particularly sexual way because of course I was a gay man but I think she's more of a man's woman than a woman's woman. But then she gave an interview, I was executive editor of The Sun. She gave an interview to The Sun. And in that interview, and she was quoted completely greatly, but I had nothing to do with it, right. I hadn't set it up. I hadn't done the interview. She said,

something like women hate me because their men want to be with me. It was some sort of cringe worthy line that ricocheted all around and went viral. And she really, really turned on me about it. And, and I'd always been quite a defender of her. So I'm not saying that she was not a legend of the industry, but my understanding from what is going on at Sly recently is that any big salary, you were just gone, right? And it actually started with Damon Holmes because he was on a huge salary comparatively,

and Dermot Mernahan as well, I think he was on something like half a million. And so basically, it's just looking for ways. And so they have replaced, I mean, I would never watch Sky News. The thing about Kay Burley is she was a compelling figure who did want to watch her. And they now have on the breakfast show a whole load of Woke Topians. I'd never watch. I'd never watch. Nobody else in, you know, nobody else on satellite TV became a household name. Having only ever worked on satellite TV. She did. It's amazing. When she started in newspapers, it wasn't a particularly pleasant place for a young, thrusting woman to find herself.

I know there are lots of people who will look at what is said on air and happens on air and etc etc and find fault. All I can say, for me she was a good friend and I'm always very reluctant to criticise her. Look, there is a broader point about Sky and the way it's gone and the viewers were never there and it always massively boxed above its weight because as you rightly say Dan, it was all in newsrooms, It was all in Downing Street. It was all in the White House at one point during the fall of the Saddam regime in Baghdad.

But it never had, it never had, certainly the last five to 10 years, the support it had in the early days. I joined Sky having come from the BBC because it was a channel that spoke to, you know, the North, to working, to the working classes. It wasn't the BBC. And then over the years, it just became the BBC and worse. Yeah. Now, Colin, I know, and I don't want to put you in a difficult position. Of course you don't, because one of the great things that GB News has done, and you know,

GB News has done. And you know, sadly, in so many ways, I have turned from, I guess, being such a believer in this mission and someone who's so passionate about what they're doing to a real critic, actually. But one of the great things that they have done is bring you back, bring back the brazier angle as a column. Now, given their treatment of you was pretty appalling, was that an talk to me about that decision to go back when they asked? So no, fearless line of questioning that I appreciate it. I followed my latest column yesterday. It was number 31, 31 consecutive weeks of writing a column. And look, the farming is really important to me and I really enjoy sitting in my tractor. That is my happy place. That said, people have said to me, one of my sisters said to me, Colin, you just, you can't let this go completely. A guy called Jake Wallace Simons, brilliant writer, said to me, one of my sisters said to me, you know Colin, you just, you can't let this go completely.

A guy called Jake Wallace Simons, brilliant writer, said to me, you can't walk away from this. And actually, GB News, by coming to me and saying, writer's a weekly column, make me think about the news again every week. And I am being sucked back in. The mere fact I'm sitting here talking to you now is evidence of that to some degree.

I'm gonna meet The Sunday Telegraph next week. I had a meeting yesterday with a conservative intellectual periodical editor who seems to have made me assistant editor. So I am you're back. I'm sort of semi back. I'm trying to put it down. We all need to put our shoulder to the wheel. Yes. We are living in times of existential crisis. And it's not good enough just to say, you know, Dad, what did you do during the war? I did not fall. I want to be able to say actually, I did my bit of the culture wars. It's been a privilege to be in the trenches with people like you, you know, and Godspeed

to Outspoken and the work that you do. Well, no, I am so happy you're back. The next time I get you back on Outspoken, Colin, we're going to talk about the news. But I think it's been so important today to hear about these wider themes. I think you are such a hugely important voice. And I agree, we're fighting for our country. You know, we are truly fighting for our country at the moment. And it's so important. I mean, we're so different, aren't we in our how we do things. But I think having people who are prepared to fight in so many different ways,

I view you as a real intellectual, it's absolutely important. So please do come back Colin very soon to outstoken but thank you for being out of semi retirement. But I just thought it was important to take a look at what I would describe as the low light of sly news over the years. None of them feature Colin Brazier, of course, but they do feature a lot of Adam Bolton. Here he is head tohead with Alistair Campbell You are, you probably are

Alistair, Alistair, Alistair Calm down I am commenting, don't keep saying what I think Alistair, Alistair Dignity, Dignity You come on and say no one won the election Alistair, Alistair No don't, you talk to me, I'm fed up with you telling me what I think.

I don't care what you're fed up with. You can think what you like. I can tell you my opinion. Don't tell me what I think. I will tell you why I think you're reacting so badly. Alastair, you're being... You are being a bit provocative here, not necessarily so... Well, sometimes politics is about passionate things. He is saying Gordon Brown is no longer legitimately a downer. I'm saying Gordon Brown. I'm saying if you look at the performances in the elections, Labour did worse than the Conservatives.

And then there was the moment when Kay Burleigh questioned the girlfriend of a serial killer about their sex life. Do you think if he'd had a better sex life he wouldn't have done this? Maybe but I don't know that now do I? I don't know if he was even doing it when we did have a sex life. I really don't know him at all. Although nothing was more famous than her brutal question of Peter Andre who ended up ending the interview in tears. I didn't expect that, I'm sorry. But as I said, we didn't tell you we were gonna... Yeah, but I didn't know what was said, but that's fine. Nobody's gonna take my kids away from me and I will die for those children. So if Katie came home and said, you know, Alex and I...

It's not gonna happen. I'll tell you now, I will go to court. I don't really wanna talk about this, okay? Sorry. We didn't mean to upset you, are you okay? Yep, I'm fine. Talk to me about the tour. Um, okay, can we um, I'd rather just stop this if that's all right. You want to stop? Yep,

thank you. It's not just the guests who they treat appallingly though. Do you remember the way that Adam Bolton spoke to Beth Rigby? Yeah, well, she's gonna come fucking sit here. She wants to be on telly Well in the Past few minutes, mr Mr Johnson arrived what the fuck sit down there stop fucking around come on and move come on I think hey, Burleigh, who didn't understand what Ash Wednesday could mean? We're waiting for Joe Biden to introduce the president within the next few moments.

The vice president, as you said. What's happened to his head? I'm sure that's what everybody's asking at home. Yes, I don't know. It's a simple answer. Okay. Looks like he's walked into a door. Maybe we'll get a chance to find out a little later. Yeah, I'm sure that's one of the questions that the networks will be asking you.

Now, then I get serious, right? Because do you remember how sly news acted during the Covid pandemic? They were revolting, like Beth Rigby, posing these questions to Dominic Cummings. Thousands of people watching this, ordinary families, have put up with all kinds of restrictions and hardships, regardless of their medical or family requirements, people not going to funerals, people not even going into hospital when their kids have been having cancer treatment. Why are you so different? What those people, I think, see here is that there's one rule for you, one of the most powerful people in this country,

and there's another rule for them. Don't you think you at the very least owe them an apology? She did exactly the same thing to Boris Johnson. Vomit, drunken altercations, security staff being treated with contempt, cleaners having to mop up red wine. Sue Gray's a shame in Dossier, really, isn't it, of what's meant to be the place, the heart of government that sets the standards of our country. And it's your culture under your leadership. Did you never for a moment during the past five months or even this morning when that report landed on your desk

and you read it blow by blow, think about resigning? A poll out today just out says three in five Britons think you should. Now, you know what what that may have been fine if Beff Rigby was following the rules. Oh but no no no no no no that champagne socialist along with Kay Burley thought that the rules were not for them and they were caught breaking the rules. So Sly News had to announce their suspension on air like this. Some news about Sky News now. A small number of Sky News staff attended a social event in London last Saturday evening

during which Covid guidelines were breached. As a result of an internal review, Sky News presenter Kay Burley has agreed to be off air for six months and political editor Beth Rigby and correspondent Inzaman Rashid have agreed to be off air for three months. All of those involved regret the incident and have apologised. Everyone here at Sky News is expected to comply with the rules and the company takes breaches of this very seriously indeed. Champagne socialist hypocrites at Sly News, they're always the best aren't they? Then we get to the election of

Donald Trump. Oh my god they weren't happy. They're hardly ever called out either, they were by that guest. Oh and they also were by Tommy Robinson Thanks, what was my alleged offense? Great journalists what great journalists what great journalists. This is the problem, yeah? What is my alleged offence? Your alleged offence is charged with refusing to leave an anti-Semitism protest in London. He's charged with failing to comply with section 35 direction excluding a person from an area. So do you plead guilty or not guilty to that? The judge. excluding a person from an area so do you plead guilty or not guilty to that the judge Then Kay Burley on election night appeared to climax when she saw

She saw labor had a landslide win Oh Yeah, I'm going It's the light blues that we're gonna spend a lot of time looking at all because this is what it may be that reform We've only picks up in the exit poll. It's just how much they're splitting. You need to shush as well. We're too excited.

I'm governor for it already. I think you're fine, you're not. But what I can tell you is that there are three seats that are hoping to be... They're actually just having a party. They were celebrating, they weren't even trying to hide it. But look at what happened when someone on air criticized the mainstream media coverage of Axel Rudicabana and the whole Southport cover-up. This is actually how they

act when someone puts out a narrative that they're not happy about. Yep, let's look at that again. Oh, yep. Nope, she wasn she wasn't happy and these days they can't even get their technology right the numbers today are clearly disappointing we want to see inflation coming down after the cost of living challenges that people have been through this last few years and it goes to mute they still can't sort it out. So cut back to studio. I think we've got a problem there with the sound again. No, you have a much bigger problem, Sly News.

You have a much bigger problem and it's not the sound. There's a look back. As I say, I'm not gonna describe it as the highlights of sly news, but rather the lowlights. Thank you so much for your company on Outspoken Today. How incredible was it to have Colin Frazier back? Honestly, he is such an amazing man, such an inspiring man, a true intellect, but totally supportive of me, whole time at GV News, through my whole cancellation. And I am delighted to see him sort of realize actually,

I've got something to offer to the world because he really does. And I definitely want him back on the superstar panel. Thank you so much for being here on this special edition of Outspoken. No uncancelled after show today, but we will be returning next Tuesday. And so I'd absolutely love it

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