Dan Wootton Outspoken - DEBUNKED: PRINCE HARRY'S CLAIM THAT MEGHAN WILL NEVER RETURN TO UK W/ KIM WOODBURN | OUTSPOKEN EP #16

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number sweet 16. And because it's a Friday and we've had a tough week by popular demand, I am reunited today with the TV legend Kim Woodburn, who unleashes on A-listers including David Beckham, King Charles, Queen Camilla, Prince Harry and yes, her sworn enemies, Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby. Let's be truthful, Holly, I am not just saying this for the sake of being nasty. I'm telling you the truth. You haven't got any personality at all, my love. It was only because Philip was a bit abrasive
Starting point is 00:00:49 and he would give you what for. And Holly, you sat there going, oh, Philip, not once did I ever hear you when he was going, because he went on many people on that show. Not once, Hollylly did you ever turn around and say i used to watch it a lot oh philip that's don't say that that's awful what you're saying not once you hopped on his bandwagon because you knew he was popular without philip you
Starting point is 00:01:19 could never have run that show you, is going for it. All in good fun, of course. Also coming up today, Royal Family Outrage, a world exclusive debunking Harry's sick new TV lies about the late Queen and the reasons why Meghan Markle is never returning to the UK. Plus, breaking right now, the Manchester airport cop is now under criminal investigation. So we all know where this is heading, but who the hell would want to be a police officer in the UK today? And can I ask a serious question? Why does no one give a damn about the family of the completely innocent female police officer who was attacked at the airport,
Starting point is 00:02:18 doing her job, left with a broken nose, all while carrying firearms? Because I don't know about you but I'm not hearing anyone in officialdom talking about her so I'll debate the Manchester race protest with my superstar panel Chris Davies and Rebecca Jane we'll also have the latest on the Tory leadership race with Kemi Badenoch exposed and why the MSM immediately moved to blame Russia and not the far left for the French rail attacks ahead of today's Paris Olympics opening ceremony. And remember to subscribe to our uncancelled after show, which you can register to watch on our own website at www.outspoken.life. It's a safe space, free of censorship and control from big tech and your support at just £5 a month, not only gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekday, it also allows us to continue making this independent daily news show.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And today on The After Show, it's Kim Woodburn going completely wild. Trust me, you do not want to miss her. Let's go. The Royal Rotor and mainstream media might be too terrified these days to call out the egregious lies of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, afraid of their ever-increasing lawfare. But trust me, I'm not. So today I can report a world exclusive that his new and false claims about the late Queen and the late Princess Diana during a softball interview with the Sussex's favoured propaganda outfit Woke ITV has caused hurt and blind rage within the royal family. Just when you think the Duke of Delusion would struggle to go any
Starting point is 00:04:05 lower, he somehow manages to sink to new depths. I am of course referring to his outlandish claim, backed up by zero evidence, either anecdotal or document based, that the late Queen was privately backing his various historic high court phone hacking cases. Watch. But he's confident he has some support. You said in court documents that the Queen, your granny as you call her, supported your claim. What do you think she would think of what you're doing now?
Starting point is 00:04:39 I had many conversations before she passed. This is very much something that she supported. She knew how much this meant to me. I mean, she's very much up there going, see this through to the end, without question. And he is determined to see this through. My royal sources have reacted with total disdain in terms of both the validity and accuracy of that claim.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And let me be clear about this. It suggests very much that Harry is lying again. So one source told me the reality is that the Queen's most senior staff were intimately involved in sensitive discussions with News UK about settling phone hacking claims, which Prince William reluctantly did. If any conversations took place between Her Majesty before her death and Harry about phone hacking cases, she would have been keeping the peace and avoiding confrontation. Now, I don't believe for a second that the Queen, a public servant to the very end, believed the best use of her grandson's time was pursuing spurious court cases alongside me, me, me celebs like Hugh Grant and Charlotte Church,
Starting point is 00:05:58 simply designed to seek revenge and financial reward for a 20-year-old scandal that has already been well and truly resolved. Harry also stunned royal courtiers by attempting to use the press as the reason why his wife Meghan Markle will never return to the UK. Watch this. So the fight falls to perhaps the only person with the persistence and financial firepower to pursue this through the civil courts. I don't think there's anybody else in the world that is better suited and placed to be able to see this through than myself.
Starting point is 00:06:34 But he fears negative tabloid narratives endanger him and his family. All it takes is one lone actor, one person who reads this stuff to act on what they have read and whether it's a knife or acid, whatever it is, and these are things that are a genuine concern for me. It's one of the reasons why I won't bring my wife back to this country. Oh come on. That is codswallop on so many levels. So what Harry's saying, just to be very clear about it, is that if there is any attack whatsoever on Meghan, that it is the fault of her critics. Now, it's interesting, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Because no one seems to care about the critics of Nigel Farage or Donald Trump when they are publicly attacked. So what's the difference here? But the other really serious point that I would make is that the biggest purveyor of myths, truths and misinformation about the royal family in recent years have come from Harry and Meghan themselves for commercial gain. All of that aside though, it is widely known that the reason Meghan is terrified to return to the UK is because of the public reception she believes she would receive. To suggest she is somehow less safe in the UK than the US, or any other country actually that she visits, is just ludicrous. and we all know it. I'm also told that William remains particularly livid that Harry continues to invoke the memory of their late
Starting point is 00:08:12 mother Princess Diana in his various campaigns. Doing so breaks a rock-solid pledge agreed by the two brothers in 2017 after making two intimate documentaries about her death for the BBC and ITV that they would no longer talk about her in public unless it was absolutely essential and the idea is that that was to allow her to rest in peace while protecting her remarkable charity legacy. Yet in the new interview with ITV's latest propagandist for the Sussexes, Rebecca Barry, Harry took direct aim at Williams' characterisation of their mother as paranoid in the years before her death. Other victims of hacking that I've spoken to have described the paranoia that it creates. Do you identify with that?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I think paranoia is a very interesting word because, yes, then? I think paranoia, it's a very interesting word because, yes, then it could be paranoia. But then when you're vindicated, it proves that you weren't being paranoid. You know, same with my mother. There is evidence to suggest that she was being hacked in the mid-'90s. Probably one of the first people to be hacked. And yet, still today, the press, the tabloid press,
Starting point is 00:09:27 very much enjoy painting her as being paranoid. But she wasn't paranoid. She was absolutely right of what was happening to her. And she's not around today to find out the truth. Does your mother motivate you in this legal fight? Yeah, there's all sorts of things that motivate me. While it's never been proven in court that Princess Diana was hacked, the past remains raw.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Other victims of hacking that were spoken. While it might be hard for Harry to accept, here are some home truths. He didn't actually know anything about his mother's state of mind in the months before her death. Harry has admitted publicly he has virtually no memories of his mother as a child. Now that is not the same as William, because William, by contrast, was actually one of her main confidants. Lots of people say it was really inappropriate, actually. William, at 15, was her shoulder to cry on and was brought in on many of her interactions with the media, even on sensitive matters of her love life. spoke about a lunch with William and Diana where William actually joked about using his eaten
Starting point is 00:10:47 dartboard as a place where he could put the face of Will Carleen's wife, a woman who at the time Diana was publicly rowing with. So he was very involved with all of these conversations. William knew Diana was paranoid. He isn't trying to degrade his mother's memory in any way. He is simply stating a fact. So for Harry to weaponize that in his latest interview is particularly cruel, especially given he has now become far worse than any tabloid newspaper when it comes to spilling the secrets of the royal family. But he doesn't care. Harry knows there is no way back for him with his family, so his campaign of vengeance goes on. Remember, this is all about sending Piers Morgan to jail, a ludicrous idea. And it's actually making him an increasingly unhappy and self-obsessed man.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But to react now, let me bring in my superstar panel. And today I'm delighted to be joined by the owner of True Conservative Media, and my goodness, we need more of that, don't we? Chris Davies and the former leader of UKIP, but so much more than that, Rebecca Jane. So great to see both of you again. It has been far too long. Rebecca, I forced you to watch this woe is me fest last night. What's your verdict? It's just the same thing, repeating
Starting point is 00:12:26 over and over and over again. It's like a broken record. What more can we say about it? Yeah, okay, you say that your phone's been hacked, you say that it's given you horrific issues throughout the rest of your life. There's a lot of things that's given him a lot of horrific issues throughout the rest of his life.
Starting point is 00:12:42 This is not the be-all and the end-all of it. Chris, what was your take? Dan, thanks for having me on. Harry is always the victim, isn't he? It's never Harry's fault. Whatever's happened, it's never Harry's fault. It's OK for Harry to write a book,
Starting point is 00:13:00 to appear on an interview with Oprah, to tell lies, to do whatever he wants with no responsibility and no accountability. I thought the Montecito moaners were meant to be going away to get away from the public gaze. All they've done since they've been there is basically prostitute themselves around for anybody that's prepared to throw a pound note or a dollar bill at them. I think he's absolutely disgusting. I don note or a dollar bill at them. I think he's absolutely disgusting. I don't want him back in the UK. I don't want his wife back here either. Yeah, I think most people would agree with that, Chris. The thing is, Rebecca, what I cannot stand
Starting point is 00:13:35 is that he's now trying to change narratives involving dead members of the family, knowing full well that they are unable to fight back. But remember, Rebecca, I've been very close to this story. I mean, I was working at News UK when a lot of these negotiations with Prince William were going on, and I knew a little bit about the negotiations and what was happening. And it was actually the Queen's advisors who were involved in this. So maybe Harry's had a conversation with the Queen where he said, oh, I'm going to court and she's just sort of nodded along. But she didn't want the royal family to be embroiled in years and years of legal action against Britain's
Starting point is 00:14:17 free press. Like that's a terrible look for the royal family. And by the way, Rebecca, that's not me excusing the behavior of newspapers especially during the phone hacking scandal but remember that's been dealt with criminally people have gone to jail for that and the news of the world actually shut down yeah of course you know and the royal family's number one rule isn't it is that they don't complain and they don't explain like this brings the ultimate shame on them in in a lot of ways and you're right you know we don't complain and they don't explain like this brings the ultimate shame on them in in a lot of ways and you're right you know we don't justify the things that happen because actually they were pretty horrific and yes they did have a lot of you know pretty horrific consequences that being said
Starting point is 00:14:56 though of course he's going to pull out the mum card and the grand card because it's the ultimate victim card for him to be able to play. He can't actually just fight his own battles, can he? He can't just say what he thinks and what he feels. He has to bring in his mother and his late grandmother because he knows how loved they were by the public and he knows now that he's not. So because he can't get the sympathy on his own,
Starting point is 00:15:23 because he can't fight his own battles, he has to bring that in. And I think people would have more respect for him if he actually didn't do that. Well, I completely agree. And Chris, you've got to admit, this is now really difficult for Prince William, because there was this very clear pact in 2017 for them to stop speaking constantly about diana and trying to invoke the memory of diana and that's now all harry does but he's been very careful with choosing the word paranoid because that is a direct riposte to prince william who you remember after the panorama that report over the terrible bb involving Martin Bashir, William actually went on the record on camera and described his mother as paranoid. Now, he wasn't doing that
Starting point is 00:16:10 in any sort of horrible way. William was the one who was really close to Diana throughout all of this period in a way that Harry wasn't because he was younger. You know, I'm not saying that there was any nefarious reason why Harry wasn't involved. He was a kid. He was a child. Whereas William was a much more responsible teenager who Diana had taken into her trust for the last couple of years of her life. If I was William last night and I had the misfortune to have to watch Woke ITV, as both Rebecca and I did, I would have thought that ITV had bought the rights to only Fools and Horses.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Because the number of times that Harry invokes the late Queen and Princess Diana, I just find it absolutely incorrigible. He's got no class. He's got no quality. He's got no depth. It is the me show. It's the Harry and Meghan show. And that's all they exist for now. They are a parody of a royal couple. If you cast your mind back to the time that they were wed, when they were at the absolute peak of their popularity share price, the nation absolutely loved them. And if you look at where they've gone, and the short period of time it's taken for all of that good human capital to be eroded, it is a crying shame what's happened. But I go back to what I said a couple of minutes ago, Dan, these two just need to be ignored.
Starting point is 00:17:36 They get far too much oxygen. And the best thing to do with them is to ignore them. Yeah, that's an interesting discussion, isn't it, Rebecca? Because a lot of people have said that to me, and I do understand that. But my view is that I have to expose their very egregious lies. Because the problem you've got, Rebecca, is that the members of the royal family and the courtiers cannot speak publicly. So the members of the royal family obviously could if they chose to, but they don't. Because can you imagine how classless that would be? And it's never something that Charles and William and Catherine and the like are going to engage in.
Starting point is 00:18:14 But the courtiers, Rebecca, the people who actually were working for Harry and Meghan during that time, they call themselves the Sussex Survivors Club because they went through so much. They are actually legally banned from speaking publicly because when you go to work for the Royal Family, you're subject to the Official Secrets Act, which means that you would actually be breaking the law to talk about what happened. So I feel like sometimes I have to represent what these people feel and the anger that they have behind the scenes about the way that Harry and Meghan are completely misrepresenting events, both from their time within the royal family, plus what's been going on after it. It's a really fair point, actually, is that and I've never really looked at it from that angle. So thank you. But no, I do agree.
Starting point is 00:19:01 The problem is you're never going to win with a narcissist. Like, it's impossible. It doesn't matter what anybody says or what anybody does. They're going to do whatever they want. They're going to claim their victims regardless. And, you know, we go back to that point of in the beginning, they were absolutely loved in this country. They have done this to themselves.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They have created everything that they have now become. They've created the hatred that is the other part of this is you know non-disclosure agreements if you're not going to be an awful person and if you're not going to be a nightmare why do you actually need to have them i understand to a certain extent why the royal family would need them. And I do appreciate there are probably some secrets and all the rest of it that they do need to keep out. But we're not talking about secrets. We're talking about human behavior. And at the end of the day, if you're going to treat people badly and you're going to behave
Starting point is 00:19:57 inappropriately, people should be allowed to speak out. But unfortunately, they're not you don't have to do it on everybody else's behalf and other people obviously and you're still never going to win it is right we should be ignoring them we should pretending that they don't exist because that's what they asked for and that's what they wanted but they don't really want it because then they can't be victims so it's an awful situation i don't know what the solution is other than we have to just keep on speaking the truth and unfortunately having to endure this nonsense. I mean, Chris, I would say it's a case of diminishing returns, though, because every time they speak now, they actually lose more credibility. They do get less attention. It's not like the Oprah Winfrey interview when the whole
Starting point is 00:20:45 world stopped to listen to their lies. And so I think there is now a lot of skepticism. And the biggest thing for me, Chris, is that I think they have destroyed their own legacy. I mean, in the history books now, Harry and Meghan are going to be comparable to the Duke of Windsor and Wallace Simpson. I genuinely believe that's how history will view them now. Maybe even worse as time goes on, although they were Nazi sympathisers, so maybe not. Well, when you put it like that, Dan, yes. But in truth, you're right, they are eroding deeper and deeper. And they just don't seem to understand that
Starting point is 00:21:29 when you're in a hole, just stop digging. Just be quiet, just show some humility and some grace. And remember what it was to be as a young man as Harry O'Roy royal, to be committed to public service, because that seems to have gone completely out of the window. His vendettas are many and varied. And I don't think he just wants Piers Morgan in prison. I think he wants the free press to be silenced. I don't think it's any one newspaper group because he's attacking all of them.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I just think he wants now, it's a vendetta on his part that he does not want a free press. He does not want investigative journalism. He does not want to be held account because he's a liar, proven again and again. Amen to that. But look, let's move on to the really disturbing story of protests now in Manchester, race protests over whatever happened at Manchester airport on Tuesday night. And look, I've got so many issues with this and we're going to cover it from all angles because the issue is is that we have only seen a very small part of the confrontation between the police officers and the Muslim family but the problem is that's what all of the public narrative and
Starting point is 00:23:00 that's what all of the reaction from politicians and official dim is being judged on. People seem to have completely forgotten that there are police officers who were beaten up in this incident, even though they were armed and a female police officer left with a broken nose. No one is talking about that. But as a result of the footage that went viral, people are trying to turn this into Britain's Lloyd, George Floyd. And so last night in Manchester, Black Lives Matter took to the streets. No justice, no peace. No racist police. No justice, no peace! Meanwhile, violent thugs pelted eggs at Rochdale police station last night. They are trying to terrorise the streets of Manchester. How on earth are we now a country where that sort of anti-social behaviour is acceptable? They just left to do it. And actually, all the politicians,
Starting point is 00:24:47 including the mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham, seems absolutely terrified of the Muslim community and is all about trying to keep calm rather than actually standing up for the sorts of standards that we should have as a country. But Rebecca Jane, the breaking development on this right now is that the police officer who was filmed, I don't know how to characterize it because some people have described it as an attack, but he was filmed in some way having a physical altercation with the Muslim man, and he is now under criminal investigation. So it seems very clear where this hysteria is leading to. Who would want to be a police officer in this country, Rebecca? No, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I think this is a really difficult and dicey area, and I think actually that I have an opinion that probably most wouldn't really expect me to have. So good. I like that. The first and foremost, I we need to see all of the footage and we need to have all of the information before we make any judgments. That being said, the judgments that I make based on what I have seen so far, which is not the full picture, is that I don't like the violence that the officer did show. I don't think it was reasonable and I don't think it was necessary.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I think that they should have done it in a different way. I think that the person should have been tasered. I don't think the person should have done it in a different way i think that the person should have been tasered i don't think the person should have been kicked in the head if that is what we we deem it to be from the footage we see so i'm not very happy about it but that also being said the hysteria that goes around these incidents where people don't want to look for the truth they don't want to know the other side and don't want to know the back reason that is the problem that i have because people have just ran with this like you say you know the even even down the road from me you know 15 minutes away there's a protest outside burnley police station for goodness sakes so it is again going to that mass hysteria that needs to stop we we all have far too much judgment i think and i think that's the bit we need to take out of it those police
Starting point is 00:27:13 officers british police officers do not go around just destroying people physically just for the sake of it there will have been reasons there will have been some methodology behind it did they handle it well no they didn't they should have handled it differently do i think he should be under criminal sanction i don't think so but i can kind of understand where it's going but the difference is if there wasn't all of the hysteria around all of this would he now be facing criminal sanctions no i don't think he would. This is being done to appease the public and people rather than for justice purposes. And I can't stand that.
Starting point is 00:27:52 It happens all the time now. The police give in to mobs. So they give in to a social media mob. They give in to the Muslim mob outside the police station. They give in to the Black Lives Matter mob. They give in to the leftist mob. Actually, Chris, I think Rebecca's made some really fair points. Of course, no one wants police brutality of any form.
Starting point is 00:28:14 But we do not know. And no one seems to be asking the question, what happened before? And there was a female police officer, right right who you can see in the clip is literally bleeding and sobbing we know from the confirmation that the police have said that there were three officers who ended up having to go to hospital and remember these are armed officers at an airport so there is also the increased opportunity there for terror. And I just think, Chris, if we were talking about police officers in a situation where, for example, they had to stop terrorists invading an airport, and I know that wasn't the situation in this case, but none of us
Starting point is 00:28:58 would be saying, oh, they were too brutal. So who knows what the police thought was going on? Yeah, I think Rebecca makes some really good points. In particular, I think the use of proportionate force by the police is what's important here. You're quite right. We haven't seen all the footage and it really does need to come to light. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, Dan. But leaving aside for a second what happened with the officer with his boot in relation to the victim, so-called head, that is at best unfortunate. OK, and there's no question about that. But I think it has been used as the touch paper, very similar to what happened in Hare Hills with the Roma family having the children taken away for people to kick off, for want of a better term, to look for trouble, to protest. Rochdale Police Station, really? Is that necessary? Is that proportionate? Calling for Greater
Starting point is 00:30:07 Manchester Police to be defunded, disbanded, using language that it's a family showdown. I'm not going to use on here in relation to the police that if they weren't getting justice, they were going to come back and potentially burn the place down. This is the stuff of extremes. And all of this in a week where, you know, a soldier was stabbed multiple times, and that has struggled for airtime in this country. But I don't see the white population, the indigenous British population, running around and rioting or protesting in such an aggressive and violent manner. I think we've lost leave of our senses here.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And look, let's just be honest about this. There are bad actors who are attempting to use this to create a race riot in the UK. And let's look at one example of that. The lawyer for the man in question appeared on LVC with Nick Ferrari this morning
Starting point is 00:31:08 and completely, disingenuously and dishonestly tried to describe what happened as an attempted assassination. Watch this. Yeah, go on lad. You've seen more video than me. You might have seen more video than the mayor what might he be referring to i mean i hope he's referring to the attempted assassination the joint enterprise assassination of the young boys by the police officers and that is a that is concerning because
Starting point is 00:31:42 if police officers who are meant to protect us are going around trying to kill people, I mean, how are the public going to feel safe? You would use the word assassination, Mr. Yacoub. Kill, yeah. They were threatened to kill. One of the boys was threatened to get killed by a police officer. OK, well, number one, there's zero evidence for that. And Chris Rose, the brilliant commentator on X, actually said about this interview, Ahmed Yacoub, the lawyer of the suspect at Manchester Airport, I just can't take this guy seriously, a former independent candidate for Ladywood Birmingham, obsessed with Gaza, who is now grifting this situation.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Rebecca Jane, what's your response to that interview and that claim that there was an assassination attempt? Somebody contact the Solicitor's Regulation Authority and get the man banned. This is stupid. This is inciting public hatred. One, totally delusional. Two, you're completely diminishing your points right the force that the police officers used in my opinion was not appropriate right and that's fine you can make that point but when you start throwing out outlandish statements such as assassination attempt, trying to kill young boys. Shut up. You lose all credibility. You lose your point and you need to lose your license. Yes, I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:33:13 But it does show, Chris, the sorts of people that we are dealing with. And what I hate now, especially under this Labour government, is that this is all about appeasing this mob. In fact, Chris, just just before you come in, I'll show you just a small clip, actually, of Lee Anderson's response to the mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham. Watch. I'm a model. Andy Burnham is the mayor of Greater Manchester, has said that comments from MPs, i.e. you and one of your colleagues, welcoming what the police have done could lead society in a dangerous direction. What's your response to him? He needs to shut up. The man's a buffoon. And look, he's got a point, doesn't he, Chris? And from Andy Burnham, I have heard nothing other than appeasement and certainly no attempt to defend his police officers.
Starting point is 00:34:12 There's no leadership from Andy Burnham and there never will be leadership from Andy Burnham because Andy Burnham is all about wanting to become the next prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Along with Sadiq Khan, his priorities do not lie in the best interests of the people of Manchester. They lie in the best interests of Andy Burnham. Just going back to the lawyer, and Rebecca's on the money with this. This guy drives around in a Lamborghini, a Ferrari. He took over a solicitor's practice about eight years ago and has turned it, in his own words, into a goldmine. And good luck to him. But he is yet the latest example of an ambulance chasing lawyer. And I agree with Rebecca. I think the solicitor's regulatory authority should take a serious look at this guy and consider striking him off.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Now, look, you know, very often it is truth that comes from comedy. So thank God for this great comic called Andrew Lawrence, who is one of the only funny non-woke comedians that we have in the UK and I wanted to play you this because I think his levity just sums up what we're actually dealing with. The airport security is not important but there are times when it must come second to the teachings of Islam in the name of community cohesion. Subsequent to this dispute a number of police officers were assaulted by some largely peaceful Muslim gentlemen, with one officer having her nose broken. Was that broken nose a consequence of her own institutional racism and unconscious bias? It's difficult to say.
Starting point is 00:35:56 In any case, the four Muslim gentlemen who were simply trying to communicate their grievances to the police through the medium of violence ended up being tasered and one of them was kicked in the head in the ensuing melee to some bystanders this may have seemed like a deeply upsetting spectacle but in the larger scheme of things it was a vibrant display of the cultural diversity upon which this country is built he's so good isn't he he's so good superb um he he is absolutely captured i mean all joking apart dan we're reaching the stage where you could put him up there um behind a microphone um for the dread of manchester police for the metropolitan police and, people wouldn't know whether or not he's a parody. Yeah. I mean, look, maybe back in 2012, you could say that diversity was our strength when the country was able to come together for the London Olympics. Certainly does not look that way now,
Starting point is 00:36:59 if you're currently in Rochdale, or you're currently in Hare Hills. And there's going to be much more of this. And it is extraordinary, by the way, to see just how quickly these tensions have been exacerbated under a Labour government. I did warn of this. We've only had Slippery Starmer in charge for three weeks and we're already dealing with the sorts of racial tensions which led to the Black Lives Matter movement in America in June 2020. And this has to be stopped. And unfortunately, it's not going to happen under Labour. We also have corporations going completely mad though, Rebecca. And I want to talk about this decision by Sainsbury's to withdraw a product which was accused of being racist, when actually I don't think it was anything of the sort. It was effectively a trouser, a pair of trousers described as being knee grow length so there you see it grey
Starting point is 00:38:09 reinforced knee grow hem woven trousers they got such pushback Rebecca they have immediately capitulated and apologized and pulled the product of course they did that's you know their favorite thing to do these days is that appease the mob you know it happens all the time all somebody has to do you know i could go around tomorrow and say i'm offended by that banana no i'm offended by that tangerine being orange because i identify as somebody that loves fake tan too much and it impersonates me and then they'd probably go and apologize for that no they wouldn't actually because i'm white um but the point is people make such crazy statements that are so far removed from the actual truth or the intention and i think we had a discussion on this i think it was um oh what was you remember the whole the sombrero thing and you know
Starting point is 00:39:07 that was it yeah exactly and i said then and i say now it's about the intention am i wearing my sombrero to show appreciation for mexicans and my love of tequila probably yes absolutely Yes, absolutely. If my intention is to offend somebody, then that's a completely different matter and totally racist. And that we should absolutely outlaw. But people need to understand that appreciation is okay. And this, this isn't even appreciation.
Starting point is 00:39:38 This is just nonsense. Yeah. And we need to stop that. What's happening more and more, Chris, is people are getting offended by the English language. We see it with pronouns, don't we? And this attempt to no longer be able to call people by their biological sex and having to try and butcher our beautiful language by using they, them as a singular rather than a plural, which I refuse to do. Well, Dan, my pronouns are a swear word and off.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And I'm very comfortable with them, thank you. Unlike Kamala, I know exactly what I am. I know exactly what colour T-shirt I'm wearing and everything that goes with that. The world has gone mad. I mean, to take Rebecca's point. As I understand it, Sainsbury's have a range of products that have the word grow in the hem. Yeah. And knee grow was just one of those. And it's spelled K N E E G R O W. Two
Starting point is 00:40:39 separate words. That is the English language. How can you take offense? In fact, frankly, offence can only ever be taken. It can never be given. Rebecca's right. If there was intent behind it to cast a racial slur, to cause division, to cause anxiety in the board of Sainsbury that that was not the intention here. And someone has ended up being thrown under the bus over this completely unnecessarily, in my opinion. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But the problem is, of course, the Daily Mail gives stories like this and ludicrous, spurious complaints, lots of oxygen, which is why the corporates get so terrified and react so quickly. Now breaking right now, chaos in Paris ahead of the launch of the Olympic Games in just one hour's time. But what really struck me about this is that the moment that the destruction of certain rail lines was discovered earlier today, which has brought widespread travel chaos throughout the country on what was meant to be
Starting point is 00:41:53 a day of international significance and positivity in the French capital, the moment that happens, the mainstream media try to blame Russia and Vladimir Putin. And this is one headline in the mail, of course, but I saw numerous suggestions that this was the responsibility of Russia earlier today from all our mainstream media outlets. Of course, that ain't true. So often Russia is a convenient villain. But Chris, what is becoming abundantly clear to me, and I'd happily put money on this, is that this is an Antifa-inspired far-left attack by the eco-loons in France who are trying to destroy that country. And I really think we all have to start waking up now. It's not me trying to defend Russia, by the way,
Starting point is 00:42:48 but can we not blame Russia for something that they haven't done every time we're looking for some sort of convenient excuse? Because not only is it lazy, it's also incredibly irresponsible and it takes away from the sorts of conversations that need to be had about organisations like Antifa. Dan, it's an extension of Trump derangement syndrome. You're absolutely right. What it all comes down to, we've always got to have a bogeyman. We've always got to have somebody that the government can keep us scared of. We've always got to have somebody the media want to
Starting point is 00:43:22 keep us scared of as the arm of the establishment. And it is ludicrous. If this was Putin, then I'll come and eat your lunch for you. OK, from where I sit, it is patently obvious that this is an organisation hell bent on causing maximum disruption for minimal loss of life. Now, does that sound like Vladimir Putin? It doesn't to me. It sounds like our eco loom friends like Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion, who are still crying into their cornflakes in prison for blocking the M25. And this is what has happened. I'm convinced you're right, Dan. And if you're going to put the bet on, I'll join you. Rebecca, the issue is France is about five years down the road from the UK. We're heading towards this sort of anarchy. And it's such a shame, actually, that what should be a positive
Starting point is 00:44:19 unifying moment for France, in large part down to Emmanuel Macron and his ill-advised snap election, is becoming anything but. Yeah, of course, you know, and this is just what we deal with today, isn't it? Any kind of event, anything that's like, you know, of any kind of importance, let's just sap all the joy out of everything and turn it into something that it's not like give it a rest it's so boring it's so exhausting you know what since obviously i stepped down from ukip i've had a lovely time not reading the news i have tried to stay away from the lot of it because one half of it is just pure out and out lies and two, it's always doom and gloom and I'm sick of it.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I'm actually just sick of it. And where are the people, aside from here, with the common sense who are turning around and saying, we're not standing for this. We know that you're feeding us nonsense. Give it a rest. Well, it's why we need an independent media revolution, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:45:23 Now, look, you raise UKIP, Rebecca, and it is worth talking about our conservative political environment here in the UK. There's this big Stop Kemi movement going down. What's your take on what's happening with the Conservatives? And does there need to be some sort of realignment on the right or maybe some sort of merge between all of these parties,irp reform uk reclaim and the conservatives oh that thing again um i had a lovely time with that um oh gosh i really like kemi i think that she'd be a brilliant leader for the conservatives and she's far more of a true Conservative than the morons at the top of it at the moment.
Starting point is 00:46:07 So they just need to scrap themselves and start again. Does there need to be some kind of uniting of the right? It's a lovely idea. However, it's not possible. Obviously, I tried to do that quite extensively. I did talk to all parties concerned uh you keep a lot of nonsense and need to fold uh which you know i mean their little recent trails and tribulations of the 34 day leader who was planted into the position in my opinion um is one thing
Starting point is 00:46:41 but then obviously reclaim reform reform think they're going to win everything by themselves. I've got a lot of time for reform. I think that they are the best of all of the oppositions. However, I don't know. I still have some concerns, and I echo everything that Ben Habib said about the structure of reform and how it is not very democratic. I think it is a genuine concern but i essentially again the whole politics system no matter where you look they're all a bunch of liars nobody tells the truth nobody's authentic and honest and there's very little that people
Starting point is 00:47:20 on the outside of it can actually do about it so So I became so disheartened and I'm still so disheartened. What it would take to get me back into politics, I have absolutely no idea. I don't think I'd ever do it again in my entire life. No, and I wouldn't either. So my goodness, I have full sympathy for you there. But Chris, I mean, when you listen to what Rebecca's saying, all that I just keep getting in my head is we need electoral reform. We need electoral reform.
Starting point is 00:47:50 That's the only way that actually we can completely overhaul the system. We've had two successive elections under first past the post that have delivered, shall we say, strange outcomes. If we're serious about people's vote, every single vote mattering, then I think there is perhaps an opportunity, were it not for 172-seat majority that Labour are sitting on, to look at reforming the system so that maybe 500 seats, you retain the constituency link and you have a proportional top-up, something along those lines.
Starting point is 00:48:32 There definitely needs to be a move towards more proportionality because it significantly devalues most people's vote, apart from a few million votes across the United Kingdom. And now that Labour have decided, Dan, to not allow small parties to sit on select committees, there's even less democratic... Exactly. So they're completely shutting reform out. That's the problem. The uni party have a way of doing that.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And by the way, I don't like getting into the weeds because I know it bores people, but there is a way to do proportional representation where you still have your local MP. It's the mixed member proportional system, which operates very successfully in New Zealand. If you're interested, Google it. I promise you it's a great system. Now, finally, Elon Musk's son has spoken out in fury after that incredible game-changing interview from the Tesla and SpaceX mogul talking about how he feels like he lost his son.
Starting point is 00:49:29 His son was killed as a result of the woke mind virus, which saw him transition from a boy, a teenager called Xavier, to a trans woman called Vivian. Here's a reminder of what Elon had to say. All right, so the reason it's called dead naming is because your son is dead. Here's a reminder of what Elon had to say. yeah so um yeah and there's lots of people in that situation now right it's not pretty and lots of demolished kids yes yeah well that's a good that's a good reason to be the final straw all right so let's so i vowed to destroy the mind the woke mind virus after that most powerful interview i've seen in a very long time but
Starting point is 00:50:26 xavier now living as vivian has hit back after elon tweeted that xavier was born gay and slightly autistic two attributes that contribute to gender dysphoria elon said i knew that from when he was about four years old and he would pick out clothes for me to wear like a jacket and tell me it was fabulous as well as his love of musicals and theatre. And I can tell you, I can tell you, a lot of gay men do love musicals and theatre. But Vivian, furious about this. Vivian Jenna Wilson. I'm just going to come on here and say that I'm doing well. I'm doing fine, actually.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And I am formulating a response and whatnot. It's being worked on. It's being worked on. Just hold your goddamn horses for five more seconds, okay? I promise it's getting worked on. And Vivian then did tweet Chris saying that Elon's claims were entirely false, saying that he was promoting gay stereotypes. But I have to say, I am team Musk on this one. Chris, what about you? Yeah, Elon all the way, I'm afraid. There appears to me to be some classic revisionism here by his offspring, which I think is very unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And I think perhaps Dan reflects the breakdown of his marriage and the ongoing relationship with his previous wife and perhaps the lack of connection with the child, which I'm sure is unfortunate. But no, I'm afraid there appears to be an attempt here to smear Elon. I don't see anything other than that here. Rebecca, what did you think of this? Unhinged. It's all just unhinged. I think I actually I'm probably going to surprise you here because I'm a little bit middle of the road with it. But first and foremost, why on earth is anybody talking about this in public? Like this is serious family matters. Keep it to yourselves.
Starting point is 00:52:34 This is embarrassing and unhinged, as I mentioned. My only slight issue is that I've done a lot of work in high schools and that has been with a lot of young people who are identifying as different genders. Now I don't really support transitioning gender before the age of 18, probably not even before the age of 25 if I'm being really honest because I think that you're not developed enough to understand that whole world at that point in time. But I have definitely, definitely seen young people really struggle with this. So that's why I'm a little bit more middle of the road with it. Elon saying that, you know, my son is dead and all the rest of it. Come on. Like this is so sensationalized.
Starting point is 00:53:29 But and I think I watch it and i think you look crazy you sound crazy but then i also think actually that is genuinely how he feels elon and it's okay because actually if you're a parent and your child does change gender you have lost significantly who you thought they were or who you thought they were going to call it dead naming don't they for that reason precise yeah look i i do understand what you're saying but i think it's so important that elon has actually been able to put the side of the parents of trans youngsters who are sort of forced these days to pretend that this is all great we're so happy about this and actually they're not and they're very often angry about it but what a fabulous superstar panel for this friday chris davies the founder of true conservative media and the former UKIP deputy
Starting point is 00:54:25 leader, Rebecca Jane. Thank you both. Will you come back soon, please? Always. I'd be delighted, Dan. Thanks for having me on. Have a great weekend. Now, look, do not go anywhere because Kim Woodburn, the brilliant TV legend, unleashes on Philip Schofield, Holly Willoughby, Queen Camilla, King Charles, David Beckhamham so many more celebrities this is an amazing interview coming up in just one minute time but first i'm delighted to tell you today about verso our first ever sponsor here on outspoken as you may know
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Starting point is 00:56:40 for today's uncancelled interview with the legend, that is Kim Woodburn. Kim Woodburn. With me. We're reunited. We are. Do you know what, Dan? I used to love going on your show. It was lovely and it was a very,
Starting point is 00:57:03 I'm going to say a very, very popular show. So let's hope you get back on. You're super. Go on, ask for some questions. This is the future, Kim. This is the future, right? Independent. Actually, this is now the future. Digital, online.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Well, do you know why I was asked to do my own podcast? Do you know what, Murphy? I was like, Murphy, I can't be bothered. Do you know what? I got on telly. I made a few bob. I mean, I'm 82. I mean, and do you know I love my home life.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I also do bits and pieces. I do lots of the clubs and things and I'll go on. But you know, Dan, 82, let me enjoy my money, dear. Let me enjoy it, dear. Kim, you look younger than the last time I saw you, though. Is there a secret? Well, I never might. No, I've got to tell you the truth.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I've had bits and bobs done, which I admit that, Dan. Good. If I said to you, I've never had a thing done at 82, you'd say, lying cow. Well, I'd just say you wouldn't look so sensational. But what you've got to do is you've got to pay the money to get it done by professionals if someone looks at you and says to you oh my god look what she's had done she looks like she's been smashed in the face with a frying pan you're going to the wrong people you've got to look at people that say she must have had something done you can't tell
Starting point is 00:58:23 because she couldn't look that young at 82 my lovely spend a few bob don't go to the cheapskates if you're going to get anything done but I'm going to say there's many people on television you know this there's nothing wrong with trying to look younger you're a long time dead lovely
Starting point is 00:58:40 but when you say you look nice oh I have nothing done oh please Carol Vorderman I'm dead, lovey. You know. But when you say, you look nice, oh, I have nothing done. Oh, please. What's wrong with this? Carol Vorderman. Carol Vorderman. Look, you know what, my lovely? This isn't against Carol at all.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Nothing whatsoever. Lovey, of course she's had stuff done. Look, Carol, you're a lovely woman. Stop this nonsense. Yeah, just admit it. Just admit it. Oh, she's a lovely woman. Stop this nonsense. Yeah, just admit it. Just admit it. Of course she's had stuff done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Amanda Holden. Amanda looks great. But no one. She looks great, Amanda. You've got to be honest. She does. But no one could look that young at her age unless you had work done.
Starting point is 00:59:26 There's nothing wrong with having touches up you know that i i've had loads done i wouldn't insult your intelligence my old ladies grow up no and i love that i love that honesty and i have to say kim when i was launching the new outspoken show do you know from my outspoken club you were the number one request of guests? But, Dan, let me tell you something. You see, love, when you're in, you know, you know, but for those that are listening, when you're in show business, it's the phoniest business you could be in. Lying, cheating, conniving, crawly people. But you see, I got
Starting point is 01:00:08 on television in 2003. I made a lot of money down, Flavinora. And there I was, 61 years of age, and suddenly live in a big house I own. What goes with that is when you're younger than me, people will kiss the backside of the bosses on all the channels because they want work. Lovey, I don't want work. So I've got enough money to live on, I'm 82. I'm having a marvelous time, like doing bits and bobs. But if television never rang me again, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:00:41 So I can say what's true because one, I've got enough money to live on. But, you see, let's be fair, Dan. If you're a younger person on television and you still, you know, you need your money, you've got to kiss backsides. You mustn't dare say what you know to be true. You lie your teeth up because they're all listening, all the chiefs upstairs, those bunch of arseholes. And I can say it because I'm Kim Woodburn,
Starting point is 01:01:06 and I don't want work from you. Totally. Absolutely. I mean, come on. We've worked with all of these people, Kim. We know what they say about each other off camera, and then they pretend to be best friends on camera. Well, I can't do that, Kim.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And look, it did probably cost me my career in the mainstream media but the thing is well it shouldn't have done dan you had it you were you're good at what you do and it's disgusting and i speak to so many people friends of mine say i say i don't think dan's back on and everyone says to me he was bloody good i'm sorry i'm saying bloody it was bloody good and you were good you're nice on the eye you were very fair you were very very fair and you know i'm saying bloody it was bloody good and you were good you're nice on the eye you were very fair you were very very fair and you know i'm not being funny but you see you are right you meet people in showbiz i have no show business friends i am glad to say because there are two-faced bunts of watsits big brother house big brother house as an example i've worked people say of people
Starting point is 01:02:08 that oh she's lovely and i thought i said well she wasn't what i worked with she was one proud so you see they're all putting an act on i will say that i think out of every hundred celebrities five are nice now that's maybe low yes it's true that is so true it is 100 i don't know it's a very low but you know but it's true because the vast majority of them only care about you when you can help them and when you're on the way up and have you noticed kim they only become friends with other celebrities who are more famous than them. They don't want to be involved with anyone who's on the way down. So celebrities are not genuine people.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Well, it makes me, you know, I'm going to say this. I'm sorry, but I know people adore David Beckham. I don't know David Beckham. He's probably a lovely chap. If he crawls anymore to get a knighthood, he's got a permanent brown ring around his nose there and permanent brown he's not a nice guy see this is the other thing that i can't stand exactly that was the real david beckham but you see now you see the queen of england wasn't fooled by this our queen elizabeth her, was not fooled by this. She was a shrewd, wonderful queen.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I hope that King Charles, with respect to you, sir, I hope you're not fooled by him either. He's crawling all around you now. He's going to be fooled. But he wants a knighthood. Do you remember, well, you ought to be a journalist. They repeated it in the paper two weeks ago. I'd never forgotten it personally. But repeated it in the paper two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I'd never forgotten it personally. When he was sending emails out to his friends a few years ago, and somebody took an email, probably one of the maids in his house, whipped it off. And I can't use the language, it's too vile. But he used Cs and Fs, you know what I'm getting at. And he said that all the public, while I'm grateful, CUs, I can't, it's vile, and Fs, you know what I'm getting at. And he said that all the public, while I'm grateful, see you I can't smile, and Fing this because I should have had a knighthood.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And yet now he's with the king smiling and King Charles III don't do it. That's why he's kissing your backside. In those emails, he also spoke about the fact that he was only doing charity work to get the knighthood and that he wasn't prepared to pay any of his own money and that the charity had to put him on a private jet.
Starting point is 01:04:35 It's ludicrous that he might get a knighthood. Folks, you may think I'm being very harsh. I'm not, my loves. I'm not. I'm 82. I've got a few bob to live on. If I didn't have money to live on, if I didn't have enough money to live on, I'd be saying, aren't these people wonderful? I don't have to do it, lovey. I'm so proud.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But the thing is, Kim, I couldn't do it. I couldn't fake it anymore. I had to start telling the truth. And I am so glad that I did because I'm independent now. We need a leader who tells the truth, Dan. And that's what people want now. Dan, if there's anything wrong, if you know something to be totally true, I won't say anything that I haven't thoroughly gone into. If I'm not sure that a person does something wrong, unless, I won't say it, Dan. When I say things about people, it's because I've met them.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I've heard them. I've seen them. So what I'm saying about them is absolutely true. And if I can't tell you, the public, the absolute truth, I've taken off television. There's something wrong, my love. There's something terribly wrong. But that's what's great now, Kim. You actually don't have to be on TV. I mean, this is on YouTube and streaming services. People can put it up on their TV, but I don't want to watch what's on Wokai TV
Starting point is 01:05:56 or the British Bashing Corporation or Bias Channel 4 News or Sly News. They're not telling me the truth. I don't want to watch that anymore. Because why, you know, but seriously, I got into a business for a person that's straight, because I am straight. I can be straight and I've got a few bob.
Starting point is 01:06:15 But I got into a business that is the most two-faced, bigoted, lying loads of toe rags show business. But thank you, God, I got a lot of money out of it you know and you can look down i've lived very poor i lived in bed sits for two pounds a week that you wouldn't keep a rat in i was 17. and to have this money now and say what i and i've got i've lived in houses as a cleaner and yes sir, sir, no, sir, three bags full. You've had to really kiss the backsides. You need the accommodation.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Dan, do you know something? I'm so glad I no longer have to do it. I am a kind lady. If you're a nice person, I'm delighted to meet you. I'll give you my last. But don't come at me lying and two-faced. I haven't got a second in my life to put things in the papers that aren't true. And you people that believe them, you need your brains tested.
Starting point is 01:07:16 You need your brains tested. Now, stand by, Kim Woodburn. It is very important to me that we have a safe space not patrolled by big tech. Because you know on big tech censorship and control runs deep so that's why we have www.outspoken.live our membership section where you will get a half an hour of extra content every single weekday all you have to do is pay five pounds a month what's that about the price of a cup of coffee in one of the uk's major cities now and that allows me to continue our independent media revolution to do everything with our original reporting with our studio with our technology with our guests so it really is appreciated so at this stage what we do is we come off YouTube, we come off Rumble,
Starting point is 01:08:05 and we move to our own platform. So sign up at www.outspoken.live because Kim Woodburn is about to unleash on a whole load of A-listers who should be blocking their ears right now, including and especially if you're Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby. Have an amazing weekend. We are back Monday and every weekday at 5pm UK time, midday Eastern time, 9am Pacific. Do hit subscribe right now. Turn on the notification bell on YouTube and Rumble. And most importantly, I promise to keep fighting for you. See you on the after show with much more. Kim would burn.

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