Dan Wootton Outspoken - DERBY CAR RAMMING BY INDIAN WAS "TERRORIST ATTACK" SAYS ANT MIDDLETON AS LEFT TURNS VIOLENT

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The authorities and MSM conspire to cover up what Ant Middleton has today declared a “terrorist attack” in Derby City Centre as an Indian National ploughed his black Suzuki into complete innocents celebrating a Saturday night out. But to the British Bashing Corporation this alleged terrorist is just a man. There’s an irony in the fact this latest attack occurred just hours after the hard left Stand Up To Racism march in London, attended by everyone from Narinder Kaur to the Tit Whisperer Zack Polanski and Jeremy Corbyn. But Dan has uncovered the violent underbelly of the event ignored by the MSM propagandists like Sly News. Then after the Digest he's joined by one of his favourite authors, Lionel Shriver, whose brilliant new book A Better Life is a subversive look at the woke desire to misrepresent the growing immigration crisis. She’ll reveal what inspired it later in the show. PLUS: Zack Polanski’s own family reveal they hate him as the Tit Whisperer Green Party leader is exposed in a damning expose. AND: Scott Mills is dramatically sacked by the BBC over a historic male relationship. Former BBC Top of the Pops and Radio 1 presenter Mike Read is here with all the latest. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry blackmails his dying dad King Charles over access to his two grandchildren. We’ll team up with the Royal News Network for all the latest. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And breaking right now, the authorities and MSM conspire to cover up what Aunt Middleton has today declared a terrorist attack in Derby City Centre as an Indian National plowed his black Suzuki into complete innocence celebrating a Saturday night out. But on the British Bashing Corporation, this alleged terrorist is just a man. Terror police joined the investigation after seven people are injured

when a car hit pedestrians in Derby. It happened last night. A 36-year-old man is being questioned. on suspicion of attempted murder. As Lauren the insider declared, we are under attack, but the police and the establishment media will do everything to make us think otherwise. Our officers are leading the investigation

with the support of counter-terrorism policing colleagues. I would like to clarify that this does not mean the incident is currently being treated as terrorism. Derbyshire detectives say that they are leading the investigation here, but they're being supported. by counter-terror officers. And they have stressed, though, although counter-terror officers

are supporting them with their investigation, that does not mean that the incident is being treated as terrorism, although those officers are supporting them. This sort of tragedy is now so commonplace that it was nowhere near the top story on most news sites. You would have needed to scroll to find it. Of course, there is a real irony in the fact this attack occurred just hours

after the hard-left stand-up to racism march in London, attended by everyone from non-year-old. and decor to the tip whisperer Zach Polanski and Jeremy Corbyn. But I've uncovered the violent under valley of the event ignored by the MSM propagandists like sly news. This country belongs to our... We will defeat them at the baller box, but we're not in the streets as well. Israel. What is you?

And fuck it isle. Are you? You are finished. Are you? You're blowing me up. Thank you very much for that. This is what the left do, guys. This is what the left do.

Don't, you want to have a money? Go on then. It's what the left do, guys. So I'm going to expose that in full in the digest. Then, for analysis, joined by one of my favourite authors, Lionel Shriver, whose brilliant new book,

A Better Life, is a subversive look at the woke desire to misrepresent the growing immigration crisis. she's going to reveal what inspired it later in the show. Also coming up today, Zach Polansky's own family revealed they hate him. As the tip whisperer, Green Party leader is exposed in a damning expose. And Scott Mills dramatically sacked by the BBC over a historic male relationship. Former BBC Top of the Pops and Radio 1 presenter Mike Reid is going to be here with the latest on that.

And breaking right now, I can tell you that the acting BBC Director General, Roderie Telfin Davies, has in the past few moments released a new statement in regards to Scott Mills's departure. Let me just take you through it, but I would argue that this poses yet again far more questions than answers. In a statement to all BBC staff, the acting director general has said, Darrell, I'm sure by now that many of you will have seen the news that Scott Mills has left the Radio 2 Breakfast Show and the BBC. As Lorna Clark, our director of music acknowledged in an earlier message to her team, this will come as a shock to many of you, given Scott's profile and the sudden nature of this announcement. Of course, it will also be a shock to our audience and loyal Radio 2 breakfast

show listeners. The Radio 2 team will update everyone on more information on plans for the show when they are able. In the meantime, I just want to recognise the pressure this puts on them, many of whom have worked with Scott for many years. I hope you will understand that we are not able to share any more information. Best wish is Rodry. Well, the BBC staff might understand why you're not able to share more information, Rodry, but I don't. We need to know what you knew when and what this is about.

Because at the moment, we are not in the clear as to whether we're dealing with a Hugh Edwards type situation or a John Trude type situation. All we know, according to the Daily Mirror, is that this relates to a historic male relationship over 10 years ago and that the BBC began investigating last Tuesday when Scott Mills was taken off air. So Mike Reid, he knows all about BBC radio and some of, let's say, the more difficult aspects of it, he will be with us on this later in the show.

Then in the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow on Substack Prince Harry Blackmouse's dying dad, King Charles, over access to his two grandchildren. We'll team up with the Royal News Network for that at www.outspoken.com. We are also going to reveal the first greatest Britain and union jackass of the week. I have nominated Zara Solana for her speech at the stand-up to racism event, which I'm about to show you. Then we've got two nominees today from the wonderful Lionel Shriver. she has gone for the bookish type, which is a trans-owned bookshop that charges its customers to deface Harry Potter novels in that ongoing effort to attack JK Rowling. And Catherine Veland, who we see there, a benefits sheet housebound with anxiety who was caught ziplining on holiday. Yep, that one. That one. So get voting. Keep your comments coming in.

We will reveal the winner at the end of the show. But now, let's go. We are under attack by foreign nationals who should not be here, and the mainstream media, either want to pretend it's not happening at all, or gaslight us about the circumstances. So on Saturday night, and I'm going to call it what it is, a terror attack saw an Indian national plow his car

down the city's busiest party street at the peak of Saturday night festivities For the British bashing corporation, this alleged terrorist is of course just a man, any old man. Counter-terror police joined the investigation after seven people are injured when a car hit pedestrians in Derby. It happened last night. A 36-year-old man is being questioned on suspicion of attempted murder. I mean, it was just the same online as Dominic Frisby put it after seeing this MSM headline. One of those cars again.

The reality is that the scenes were utter carnage, and it is a miracle that only five people are in hospital. This could have killed scores of people. And look at that, CCTV footage showing the black Suzuki Swift, careering down the main street, as innocent party goers run to help those modes down. Lauren, the insider raged. This is now a daily occurrence around the UK. We are under attack. And Basil the Great, added the man responsible for the car attack last night is an Indian national.

Mass immigration puts people in danger. Mass deportations will protect our people. Let's get started. But within hours, the usual process of cover-up began, and I'm not buying it. As chairman of the Freedom Association, David Bannerman pointed out, so on the Derby attack, we see a familiar media handling battle. One, deny terrorism, play for time. report much. Where are the BBC interviews of Derby attack victims all played down? Two, wait

till media interest calm down. Three, why at least slip out decoy facts like the attacker was from India question? Is the alleged attempted murderer an Indian Muslim? Four, hope media interest dies off. Five, condemn any legitimate concern as right-wing agitation. We're not fooled. Let's compare the reaction to Saturday with the Liverpool car ramming, which, as Morgan pointed out, happened around 6pm on the 26th of May 2025. Merseyside Police arrested the suspect at the scene and by 753pm issued a press release with partial suspect details aid, ethnicity, nationality, local ties while stating it was not terror related. In contrast, the Derby incident occurred at 9.30pm. over 11 hours later, the same level of suspect details have not been provided. I wonder why.

Burnside added hardly any coverage of what happened in Derby compare with the news after the parade in Liverpool. And I have to say when the police briefing eventually came, to me, it left far more questions than answers. A horrific incident that has understandably shocked the city. Officers were on scene just seconds after a car collided with. pedestrians who were simply enjoying a night out in Derby. While none of those injured in the incident have suffered life-threatening physical injuries, the impact on them, I am sure, is just beginning to be felt. While words cannot change the devastating events of last night,

I know that I am holding them in my thoughts, as are my colleagues across the force. I want to thank all those who responded so quickly to last night's events. In particular, the members of the public who came to the aid of those injured and help provide first aid. I can confirm that the suspected driver was arrested by officers on the other side of the city centre seven minutes after the incident took place. He was safely stopped in station approach where the bridge crosses over towards Pride Park. This swift action would not have been possible without eyewitnesses

who contacted us about the vehicle's whereabouts as it was driven away from the scene and around the city centre. I want to thank the businesses who have been. helped ensure that those in the area were kept safe at a time when information was short. And I've understood the need for those businesses to remain closed today. I'd also like to thank people who live within the scene for their patience whilst we carry out our work. Our investigation into the circumstances is still in its early stages. A 36-year-old who lives in Derby remains in police custody and is being interviewed by detectives.

We believe this is an incident. incident and there is no wider risk to the public. The arrested man is originally from India, but has lived in the UK for a number of years. At this stage, I am unable to give any further details about him. As is common practice for an incident of this nature, our officers are leading the investigation with the support of counter-terrorism policing colleagues. I would like to clarify that this does not mean the incident is currently being treated as terrorism. So I'm sorry, what the does that mean? Two minutes of waffle before confirmation that terror police are involved. I believe the cover-up over these stories continue and it is all about narrative control. As Leo curse rage,

the police statement on the Derby car ramming describes the suspect as a Derby man who was originally from India but had lived in the UK for a number of years. What is a Derby man then? Is it just anybody who happens to be in Derby? Does this work everywhere? Or the Luftwaffe who bombed London actually Dagenham men. But London Merrill candidate and forces legend and Middleton has been prepared to call a spade a spade. Announcing on X in the past few hours, Darby was a terrorist attack, another on a long list within Great Britain. Don't ask Sadiq Khan what a terrorist attack is, as he'll ask you to spell it out or just fob it off as part and parcel of big city living. You are under attack people, plain and simple.

But the mainstream media weren't pushing or challenging. Indeed, on sly news, it was just like nothing to see here, folks. Well, yes, we've just heard in the last few minutes some updates from Derbyshire police, particularly about the man who has been arrested over the incident here last night. We've been told that he is a 36-year-old man and that he's from Derby, but originally from India, although they say that he had lived in the UK for a number of years. Now, Derbyshire detectives say that they are leading the investigation here, but they're being supported by counter-terror officers.

And they have stressed, though, although counter-terror officers are supporting them with their investigation, that does not mean that the incident is being treated as terrorism, although those officers are supporting them with their inquiries. Now, the man who has been arrested is still being questioned by officers at the moment. They say they are still keeping an opened mind as to the motives behind this incident. Indeed, for much of the MSM, there's. wasn't even a lead story. It made hardly any national newspaper front pages, with Andrew Lawrence pointed out, this is now so commonplace that it's not even near the top story on most news

sites you have to scroll to find it. This sort of tragedy is now so commonplace that it was nowhere near the top story on most news sites. You would have needed to scroll to find it. Meanwhile, the far left assembled in London for a march against racism. They claimed that half a million of them had turned up on closer inspection. It was in fact tens of thousands. Oh yes, the march, the leftist violent march, which the MSM absolutely adored. All of their favourites were there. From Nourinda Corp to the Titwhisperer Zach Polanski to those old lovers, Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott. Street.

Oh, Street. Our street. Oh, street. I mean, there's that great juxtapitian, isn't there, between the Islamist terror flags and the trans flags. But the violence actually wasn't even well? hidden if you look for it. So first up there was a quite deranged speech from serving MP and your party

Islamist Zara Sultanah clearly threatening violence. But I said it in Whitehall and I will say it again when the fascists turn up our communities with us. Every trade union, every mosque, every church, every neighbour, because look around you. We are the majority. This country belonged to us. So yes, we will defeat them at the bus as well. Peace. If Tommy Robinson had said that at the Unite the Kingdom rally, trust me, he would have been necked on the spot.

But on sly news, this was pure propaganda. Forget the arrests. Forget the violence. Why do you feel it's important to take part in this march today? Good morning. Yeah, it's a really vibrant, exciting atmosphere today here because so many organizations, people from every walk of life, are coming together in unity over division.

Lots of people are really sick of Islamophobic, anti-Muslim, anti-migrant narratives in our society. We're here almost two years after the 2024 racist riots, which was orchestrated by the far right in which people of colour were terrorised, unable to leave their houses for fear of racism. in 21st century Britain. And we're here today to say that is not a status quo

that we want any longer and we want to change that together. It's said to be potentially the biggest multicultural march in UK history taking place today. Celebrities, musicians, politicians from different parties. Oh, yes, just wonderful.

Just wonderful, right, totally peaceful. No, let me show you the reality of the stand-up to racism march. Take this shocking moment. where one woman threatened to blow up, a Restore Britain supporter, while standing right next to the Labour MP, Stella Creasy.

No man, no man, no man should be attacking a woman. Regardless you, you're a man, you're a woman, no? Israel. Fuck you and fuck Israel. Stop blowing you off. Are you? You are finished. Are you?

You're blowing me up. Thank you very much for that. Lovely woman, isn't it? You want to blow us up? You want to blow us up? Listen. You are a disgusting creature. Yeah?

And the quicker Rupert Lowe comes into power and it puts your fucking ass the better. Yeah? I tell you what? Who the fuck are you? Yeah? I tell you what? You're standing there as a white British person

and this woman's saying about blowing up England. Yeah, and blowing up England and you're standing there for people. Yeah? You should be ashamed of yourself. That's Stella Creasy on the left. Listen, you should be ashamed of yourself.

You should be ashamed of yourself. She's talking about blowing up England. Yeah, and you are standing there with her. Get yourself a favour. As Adam Brooks responded, Hi, Stella Creasy. As a Labour MP, you were stood by and interacted with a woman with a microphone

who told counter-protesters that we will blow you up. You were made aware and still smiled and went along with it. This was a hate march. You should be ashamed. And the violence continued all day, but was again blamed on conservative infiltrators. This footage from Montgomery-Thombs of Restore Britain disproves that.

He was attacked simply for wearing a sign that quoted their slogan with one key change. As he posted on X, I replaced far right with far left. So it read, together we can unite against the fall. far left, turning their terminology on them. I engaged in a few good conversations, but then we were mobbed and attacked. Watch. Fascist scum off our street. Fascist scum of those streets. Fascist scum of those streets. Fascist scorn off our street. We're going to protect him. This is what the left do, guys.

This is what the left do. Dave, you want to have a party? Go on then. This what the left do, guys. We'll pipe down. Keep the peace. Stay calm. This is what the people do.

Can't have conversations, guys. So they resort to violence. They resort to violence because that's all they can do. They break signs. They break our signs. They result to violence and they attack us. But shockingly, after that confrontation, it was the right-wing independent journalist Will Coleshill

who was violently arrested. Why are you arresting him? Why are you arresting him? Why are you arresting him? Why are you arresting him? Why are you arresting him? They just attacked us. It's all unfooting.

Get your arm out. Why are you arresting him? He did not. Nothing wrong. Why are you arresting him? This is completely two-tier. No idea. What? You've come up and you're saying that you're going after me, not them. I've just reported they've attached me. This is ridiculous. He's been here two minutes. I've just been attacked by a mob. This is two-tier. You want your corruption tissue.

Monty, absolutely. Wacking me in the face. Because we get attacked. We get attacked by a bunch of leftists. We get attacked. Monty said after that arrest, this is disgusting two-tier justice. We were assaulted, yet Will was arrested. The state hates the right wing. The police mocked, laughed and refused to listen to any reason. They just heard loads of people calling us fascists and far right

and went in with politically motivated vengeance. Then there is increasingly difficult to comprehend juxtaposition between the two elements of the Greens who are leading this. So you've got the Islamist and then as you can see on stage, the trans degenerates. So at the weekend, we had this quite bizarre sight of the tip west for Zach Polanski and his new MP Hannah Spencer, dancing sexually

alongside LGBT campaigners on stage like the drag queen Bimini Babes. So half a million join London rally against the far, right? It comes after more than 100,000 people turned up to unite the United Kingdom in London last September. Bitch! Oh, Tommy, where you at? Like, what Farage? What you're saying? How you doing?

So beautiful solidarity. love, music, compassion, people listening to each other, being empathetic and understanding of indifference and knowing that, you know, the only way forward is if we all come together. And the one thing that right will never have is being authentic unless they're being authentically a dick. Pretty and the petty as fuck. Guess who wasn't on stage next to Zach Polanski and Anna Spencer? This dude, Moth and Ali,

the Green Party's deputy leader who likes to scream Alu Akbar and whose wife wears a full kneecap as tennis legend and women's rights campaign a Martina Navratilova asked Is the British left this stupid? I sure hope not Nothing is less progressive

than guys like this Well they are that stupid Martina because Hannah Spencer then turned up to this cafe Guys, this is the youngest, most beautiful member of parliament. And her name is Hannah the Plummer. That prompted Irish-Iranian campaigner Heidi Bacrim to post. I wonder if Hannah Spencer is aware that the Palestinian cafe, she just got honoured in,

hosted a celebratory watch party when the Iranian. regime bombed Tel Aviv. Green politicians are legitimising some of the worst people. I feel bit nauseous. You should. You should feel very sick about a Britain where terrorist attacks now routinely covered up and hard-left Islamist violence is excused. And as we come on air this evening, unfortunately, there is another breaking news situation that I have just learned about. Police currently in attendance in Bury, Manchester, following a large armed officer response this afternoon, with people warned to avoid the area. Multiple police vehicles, including vans and undercover cars, responded to stand lane in Radcliffe.

cliff. These pictures show the street cordoned off in both directions, with officers appearing to be stationed close to a nearby business. No further details have been confirmed. Traffic is building in the area, including on nearby new road due to the ongoing closure. Local bus services have been diverted. Now, of course, we will keep you updated about what is going on, but the question, as usual, will be, will we ever get the truth? Will we ever get the truth about what is happening in Manchester right now? Will we ever get the truth about what happened in Derby on Saturday night? But just repeating that news, major armed response in Berry, Manchester,

and we will keep you posted as this breaking news develops today. Now, Lionel Shriver is here. Lionel, it's so wonderful to have you on Outspoken for the first time. You're one of my favorite guests on GGB News, and I spent the weekend ensconced in your new novel A Better Live. And, of course, in some ways, Lionel, a lot of the themes, especially in regards to mass immigration, do play into the news of the day,

and we will talk much more about that book and why you chose to write it later in the show. But it does feel so shocking, does it not, Lionel, that we see these incidents happening on an almost weekly basis, like the car ramming and Derby on Saturday night that in a previous life in the United Kingdom would have dominated the news agenda for days. And are we just being gaslit to treat this as in some way normal? Oh, obviously, it's now being treated as background noise. We're being trained to regard this as the cost of doing business. That it's just to be expected that you'll have a certain number of terrorist incidents throughout the year, you know, like various holidays. And this has happened throughout Europe, that it's now just a given.

And part of the protocol is exactly as you noted, we don't find out who's responsible. or at least the identity of the victim is withheld for as long as possible. And not the victim, obviously, the culprit. And, you know, that protocol doesn't work. You know, the truth will out. It's almost always either a first or second generation immigrant. And whenever they don't identify the person, And then you can make that assumption that, of course, you know, it's someone with an immigrant background.

And so it backfires. Absolutely. Absolutely. It does. And do you think that the media are letting people down? Because why on earth do we have the BBC just referring to this dude? this alleged terrorist as a man. I mean, surely where he came from,

how long he has been here, what his ideology is, what his religion is, is utterly central to the story. And our safety. I totally agree. I think it is journalists not doing their job, and it's journalists being in league with the state

and with the police as they understand their mission. And the police mission, mission, especially in the UK right now, is no longer to protect the majority against criminals of all sorts, but to protect minorities of every sort against the majority. So we have to, you know, the journalists are in league with, with the police to keep the, the barbarian public in the dark because they can't be trusted with the truth. Yeah. And then we saw this march, Lionel, on Saturday.

And I just find it fascinating because I actually attended and covered the Unite the Kingdom rally in October. And it was entirely peaceful. I think there were millions there. But the mainstream media coverage about it was entirely focused on a tiny number of arrests that happened well outside the vicinity.

and actually were totally insignificant given the huge number of people that were in town, certainly compared to an event like the Notting Hill Carnival or whatever. Then at the weekend, I kept seeing these shocking incidents of violence at the stand-up to racism much, like literal conservatives being attacked, a serving MP calling for street violence, and even that pro-Iranian campaigner suggesting that she wanted to blow up the counter-protest. Yet in the mainstream media on Slide News, you would have thought that this was like a family picnic. Yes, and I find the crowd estimates interesting because, I mean, the United Kingdom March was enormous. And there was a lot of effort in the media to play it down to the extent it was covered at all.

And of course, it was portrayed as a far-right march. When you looked at the people who were actually attending it, they were just regular people out for the afternoon who had a sense of loyalty to their own country. And of course, by contrast, the march this weekend is totally innocent, It's full of people whose hearts are bursting with love and hope, not hate. And it's incredibly credulous on the part of the media. And also it's collusive. You know, the media displays their left-wing colors.

And so these marches don't get covered in at all the same way. and when there is violence or two-tiered policing, it's not going to be covered by most of the media at all. It's a little bit like what's going on the same weekend in the U.S. with that no kings. Right? Which, I mean, frankly, they're identical in their complete failure to accomplish anything.

It's a display of sanctimony in both instances, but there is no real cause being espoused, aside as far as I can tell, pro-mass immigration. And that's the big uniting cause, certainly I would say in both instances. Yeah. At least in the U.S., there is a clear enemy, Trump, whereas the enemy in the U.K., in London, is a boogeyman. I mean, there pretty much is no longer a far right in the UK. And the whole thing is an attempt to brand reform

and their minor competitors as far right. 100%. I always describe it as the invisible far right. It doesn't exist. like, how can they say someone like me as far right? It's not. You know,

and I'm sure they missed the British National Party. I mean, yes. There was a time or the English Defense League. There was a time that there wasn't proper far right. It was, even then, it wasn't very big.

It got a lot more repressed than it deserved. And did have something of a point about mass immigration. Not that we were allowed to admit it. But, they were at least not figments of the left imagination. And now it's just a void. You know, the thing is, if you're going to have an anti-racist process, then you need racists.

And when you can't find them, you have to make them up. Totally. So true. By the way, just a bit of an update. We are now hearing that there are counter-terrorism officers on the scene at Berry in Manchester for this developing situation. And of course, we will keep you updated as Outspoken continues today. Breaking right now, the tit whisperer Zach Polansky's own family despise him. In fact, they say that they would have to leave the United Kingdom.

If the Green Party leader ever became Prime Minister telling an anonymous expose in the Daily Mail, it's like a chicken telling everyone to vote for KFC. Now, Shara Ali explained some of the key points in this fascinating investigation where the Daily Mail spoke to three members of Mr Polanski's extended family, none of whom now talk to him. One said he's currently the leader of the future Islamic Party. of Britain. That's what the Green Party is fast becoming, and there would be no place for Jews in an Islamic State of Britain. Family members have described their shock at how the former

actor and hypnotist has become leader of a party expressing hate for Israel. Another relative said if the Zionism is racism motion is passed, it will make the Greens the most anti-Semitic party in British history since Oswald Moses fascists. The other relations said, oh sorry, that second relation said the idea of it is one of the most sickening things I've heard in a long time. And then the third relative, Zach Polanski-Ralistive, said the mad thing is that he's gay. He's Jewish. But he's cozying up to people whose ideology is the complete antithesis of everything that he's supposed to stand for. It's like he's a chicken telling us to vote for KFC.

And of course, we saw an example of that at the stand-up to Racism March, where Zach Polanski was on stage, dancing. alongside the LGBT crew, very scantily clad there. But of course, this was a march, which was also supported by Islamist sects, who are completely in favour of the current Iranian regime. So what does Zach Polansky decide to do? Shoot the messenger. Attack the Jewish journalist behind this expose. He posted on X, this is why Daily Mail journalists are going after my family now the right-wing propaganda machine will not work on the Green Party. We're ready to end, rip off Britain, and the cost of living crisis, and make hope. Nicole Lampert, the Jewish

journalist behind the investigation, did respond directly to him, saying, Daily Mail journalists aren't going after your family, as you are aware there is more we could write if we were. Hmm, I'm intrigued by that. I'm a freelance journalist who spoke to your family members who are frightened by the due hate in your party. They are frightened by what you have given in the green light to, while you once fought due hatred, now you indulge it, because as we both see, it is popular. Other political groups have discovered this in the past. Shame on you, Zach Polanski, shame on you. But Polanski hadn't finished. He responded Daily Mail and journalists. Those words don't belong together with your parasitic behaviour. You try your daily nonsense with a paper that

literally backed the fascists, and the Green Party continued to rise. Together, we will win. Nicole wasn't happy about that, responding, I didn't. Hound anyone, they came to me. The use of the word parasite is an anti-Semitic trope. I'd normally expect that of the leader of an anti-Semitic party, but he should know better as a Jewish man. Polansky responded, I didn't call you a parasite. I called it parasitic behavior. You can't even report the basic facts properly that everyone can see in seconds. It should be shameful for you and the entire daily mail. So, Lionel Shriver, author of a better life. It's so disgusting to see what has happened to the UK Green Party,

this really unsavory coalition between the Islamists and the trans extremists. But I think it is a bit of an anathema given that Polansky is himself a gay Jewish man. And maybe he hopes to use that to get away with it. And what I found so intriguing about this is that Nicole Lampett said it was Polanski's own family who approached her to speak out against him. Yeah, I have to say that if I put Polanski in a novel, no one would buy it. I'm sorry, this character is completely incredible. He's gay. He's Jewish.

And he's leading a party in league with Islamic fundamentalists. I mean, that's just so violently in contradiction to his own self-interest and his own family, as you note, that your reader is not going to believe it. And I, you know, it's pointed out over and over again that this solidarity between the far left and the Islamists can't possibly hold. But so far it's working. It's certainly working for the four Muslims. But it's as if they're getting a ride on someone else's wagon. And as soon as the driver is inconvenient, he will be shoved mercilessly aside and they'll take over. I mean, I think that the numbers aren't there yet for there to be a, of,

basically a sectarian Muslim party so that they're hijacking someone else's party to to get their get to get their hands on on power and you know this marriage won't this marriage will only last as long as the Muslims feel they need to hijack someone else's party and and then the Greens will go away including Zach Polansky. Yeah, I think you're completely right. I mean we can the coalition there, can't we? Because there's the deputy leader, Mothan Ali, who, when he was elected, shouted Alu Akbar. That's his wife next to him in those bottom pictures in an e-cab. And of course, he ain't up on stage with the drag queens and the trans people and the gay guys

in the little G-strings because he supports a religion that wants to throw those people off the top of buildings. So it is a very uneasy coalition but it's interesting that you think they're just waiting

for their attempt to take over really. Yeah. But you know that they did some interviews with the voters after the Gordon and Denton election asking Muslim voters

you know, do they want to support the legalization of prostitution, the legalization of all recreational drugs? And it's like, oh, certainly not. Oh, of course not. Well, that's what they just voted for. It was hilarious. So some of this is unwitting. The least attractive thing about Muslims electorally is that they do as they're told. They vote as a block. And that's why you had so many voters having no idea what they were voting for when they were voting for the Greens because they were just following orders. Yeah. And this Zach Polansky figure in any other political era, Lionel, would be treated as a joke. I mean, I don't know if you've followed his tit whispering, and that's why I call him the tip whisper now. And it's actually, there is an important political point behind it, right?

Because polling shows that if voters are actually aware of his hypnotism breast lie, they all of a sudden are half as likely to vote for the Greens. So it's a real vulnerability for him. But it was back when I was executive editor at the summer, or maybe even before that, but the son just basically didn't expose on him as a hypnotist. Like it wasn't at all politically motivated. He wasn't a political figure at the time. I'm pretty sure he was still in the Liberal Democrats at the time. And basically, he told an undercover reporter that he was able to increase their bust size

simply through hypnotism. And he has since said that he apologized for it almost immediately, whereas now the BBC has actually found an interview the week. after where he stood by it and said, no, I couldn't increase their cup size, but I did manage to increase the size of their breasts by four inches. So I would argue this guy is a complete and utter grifter. He's a nut. He looks like a nut. He looks like a cartoon. I would find him very frustrating to caricature if I were a cartoonist because he already looks like a caricature. The success of this guy is utterly baffling. You couldn't make up a more perfect political

opponent. I mean, he should be a figure of fun. I think it is very concerning for the UK that someone like that can win an election for dog catcher. I mean, it just, this shouldn't be happening. It's on a very small scale of what Democrats feel in the U.S. about Trump. How is this possible that we have elected this person? Well, I feel the same way about Polanski. Who would vote for this guy and his party? I don't get it.

But the problem is the two-party system in the UK is broken now. It is smashed. I mean, you saw up close what happened with the Conservative Party during COVID and cover-up after cover-up. And Slippery Stama promised that he would bring an administration of morality. I mean, it is the total opposite. And now we're in this ludicrous situation where he promised total transparency around, the appointment of Jeffrey Epstein's BFF, Peter Mandelson, to be the US ambassador.

And there's just been no transparency whatsoever. But it's got to the point where there are now serious questions about whether Morgan McSweeney Stama's most senior aide is actually lying about his mobile phone being stolen on a London street. And the almost sort of sweet irony in all of this is that. Labor's best response is now to say, oh yeah, Sadiq Khan's streets are so damn dangerous. Of course the phone was stolen. That's the only defence they've got.

But Boris Johnson, who himself has been accused of cover-ups over this in the past, now says that what happens with McSweeney's phone could actually spell the end of Kyrgyz Stama's prime ministership. Watch this. been a vanishing act more mysterious. Not since Shurgar or Lord Lukas have been a vanishing act more mysterious than the disappearance of Morgan McSweeney's mobile phone. Find the mobile phone that once belonged to the Labour Prime Minister's chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, and I think Keir Stama could well fall.

Lionel Shriver, do you think so? Do you think there's any chance? because it does feel like the entire British establishment wants to keep Stama in post. So in the same way that they moved with the mainstream media to get rid of Boris Johnson and then to defenestrate Liz Trust within a matter of weeks. With Stammer, it's like he's their guy. They want him. Oh, I think the concern on the right of center is that get rid of Starmor,

you're going to get something even worse. that he's actually to the right of the crazies in the party who could easily get the upper hand. I mean, can you imagine what would happen if Ed Miliband steps in and becomes prime minister? And look, it's totally, it's totally believable. Yeah, or Raina. Rina, she's my prediction. I mean, exerting an astonishing amount of influence on this administration. And, you know, I never did understand that story.

Perhaps you can explain it to me. How is it possible that Starrmer orders Miliband to leave his post? And Miliband says no. Yeah, because he has no power. That shouldn't be possible. No, he has no power anymore, though. I mean, that's the thing. He is nominally prime minister.

Is he in charge of the country? Is he in charge of policymaking anymore? Is he in charge of the Labor Party? No, he's not. Of course, if you don't fancy labor policies, you want to keep Kirstearner in place because he's so ineffectual. And he knows sooner does something, then he takes it back. And if you want to keep him, keep that party safely paralyzed,

then he's probably the best you can do. Now, Lionel Shriver's brilliant new book, A Better Life, is a subversive look at the woke desire to misrepresent the growing immigration crisis, a mass immigration crisis, of course, which is impacting us all, but especially in the United States of America and the UK. Lionel, you probably know, is best known for her 2003 bestseller. We need to talk about Kevin, which was adapted into a 2011 film starring Tilda Swinton. Her latest book, however, shifts from psychopathic adolescence to mass immigration. In a better life, she imagines what might have happened. If this bonkers' 2023 proposal by then New York City Mayor Eric Adams had been implemented, it would have seen ordinary New Yorkers paid to house migrants in their spare bedrooms. Now, that never actually came to fruition, but Shriver brings the confidence.

but Shriver brings the concept to life through Gloria, who is a progressive lefty, eagerly decides to take in a Honduran migrant named Martin. However, her sceptical, unemployed, and I would say right adjacent 26-year-old son, Nico, grows increasingly suspicious of Martin's motives and backstory. And, Lionel, I read this book over the weekend. absolutely gripping and also very funny in parts. But it really does make a wider point around mass immigration. Now, of course, as you might expect, you've had a lot of left-wing reviewers quite horrified about the point you might be making, people on the right, much more into this

idea. But what do you make of the suicidal empathy that does seem to run through much of the left now? in regards to the people that we literally welcome into our country with open arms. And is that what inspired the book? Well, certainly. I mean, I was inspired partly because I followed the issue of immigration for decades. It's been an interest of mine academically, but, of course, it's an interest of mine personally because I am also an immigrant twice over. I lived for 36 years in the UK, and now I've been a couple of years in Portugal.

so I know legal immigration from the inside. And I've been frustrated by literary fiction in particular in the way it's usually treated this issue. It hasn't been ignored, but it has always been represented from the perspective of the immigrant. There are reasons for that. The immigrant story necessarily involves somebody who is, you know, at a disadvantage, literally going somewhere, whereas the host population is by definition not going

anywhere. And therefore, it seems as if the hosts have no story. But I think it is a story. I think what's happened in the UK and also in the U.S., especially during the Biden administration, is quite dramatic and very emotional. I think having your country invaded, your territory taken over by people from somewhere else, stirs profoundly primitive feelings. They're not all pleasant, but they're real and they're anthropologically natural. And you find them all over the world that when you have, huge numbers of people come in from somewhere else, no matter who they are.

It's not a racial thing. You know, the South Africans can't stand all the Zimbabweans coming in. And they're both Africans. They're both black. So it's not race. But it is, I think we have uniquely asked Westerners to accept vast numbers of foreigners into their country and to make no objection and to not feel any of those natural sensations

of resentment and anger and a feeling of being invaded. We're told those are invalid reactions. We have to be welcoming. We have to joyfully celebrate diversity. And that's the only acceptable perspective on this issue, but only in the West. because if we reversed matters and a lot of white Europeans were pouring into Africa, then that would be a scandal.

It would be a settler colonialism. And is it fair to say that mass immigration to the UK was the main reason that you left? No, it wouldn't be accurate to say that was the main reason I left. There were lots of reasons I left. One of the main reasons I left was to get away from making tax digital, which is forcing freelancers like me to file taxes five times a year. So, no, that was not a prime driver, and that was misreported in a telegraph profile, which you clearly read. Yes, I do. But that doesn't mean that I am not despairing on behalf of a country that I still have strong ties to.

and strong feelings about. During the time I lived in the UK, it transformed beyond recognition. And that was an emotional experience for me as well as for my neighbors. And it was not something that the voters ever asked for. And I, and so that repeatedly, parties were elected promising, you know, like David Cameron,

oh, we'll bring immigration down to the tens of thousands. And then it doesn't happen. Boris Johnson completely betrayed his voters on this point. So I do have strong feelings about UK immigration. I think the British would do well to imitate what the Americans did in 1924 when it had taken in wave after wave of European immigration and said enough is enough. we need to assimilate the people we've got. Nobody was, you know, there were no mass deportations, and I think any expectation of mass deportations just about anywhere are impractical. But then for 40 years,

the U.S. virtually closed down immigration. And it was only President Johnson in 1965 who supported a bill that changed American policy and opened the floodgates again. But that period of 40 years of not letting people in made it possible to unite the American population. And so that by the time I was born in the late 50s, I was just an American. There was such a thing. Increasingly in the U.S., we're now undoing that. homogenization and we're atomizing again. And so you have, you know, the same kind of ghettoization that's happening in the UK. Well, indeed. And this is what I wanted to ask you about because over the past year, and I know you'll still expect how to columnists you follow what's going on

closely here, there has been an increasing split on the right in the United Kingdom. Now, I don't like the terms, to be honest, but some people described it as civic. nationalism versus ethno-nationalism, this idea that you can't become British, you can't become English, has become quite a significant fault line in the politics of the right. Do you understand why that's happened, firstly, given, I guess, the native population have been gaslit for years and years and years. And we do have foreigners who say that they are English, which does deride English ethnicity. And we have a home secretary who says it would be a terrible thing for the United Kingdom to go back to being little England when there are probably a lot of English people who

think, no, that would be a great thing. Do you understand that or do you think that this debate is regressive? I think it's a trap. Getting lost in all these definitions of what's British, what's English, when you can become, when you can't, it's trying to nail down something that's necessarily a little bit slippery. It's something that we all understand that there is such a thing as having, you know, the British, when we think of the British, when we think of the British, we frankly picture white people. And it's partly not just about a self-perception, but the perception from elsewhere, you know, the kind of typical Brit

that people say in the U.S. envisions. I think thinking of nationality and culturally as an absolute is a mistake, you know, Kemi Badenok, comes across as very British to me. She has a lot of the qualities that we associate with Britishness. Now, she isn't ethnically British or English,

but why does it have to be absolute? I mean, I don't see why this is in the right, this conversation, this argument is in the rights interest, because in trying to nail down that position of, oh, you can't become British or you can't become English, it's boxing yourself into a position that inevitably looks racist or can be cast as racist. And I think you can defend your country.

You can maintain that the country has taken in too many foreigners and too short a time. without getting lost in this conversation. It doesn't go anywhere good. And then you have the question about whether Nigel Farage is actually the man who can do this. Is he really the man who can save the United Kingdom? Now, because of the change on the right,

the split on the right, I guess, especially with the launch of Restore Britain and Rupert Lowe, who I'll come to in a moment, Barrage is now definitely upping the ante. So at a big campaign launch in London over the weekend, he compared this civilisation crisis to that of 1940. Watch this. I'm here to give leadership to this movement.

I'm here to give you a voice. I'm here to urge you to please all yourselves. Do your bet to stand up. This is, this is, this is 1940. over again. The very existence of our nation, its culture, its identity is under threat. And I'm going to do my damnedest to stand up and fight for it with everything I've got. So, Lionel, that was the most impressive. I'd seen Nigel in some time, because he had certainly been pivoting to the centre. He, for example, said that mass deportations are a political

impossibility in the past couple of years. He said that he's not concerned. He's not concerned. He's, concerned about demographic change, and that has really concerned a lot of people on the right. Do you think he's in a tough position? Oh, sure, he's in a tough position. He's trying to keep his right flank on board and also play to the center. I mean, after all, concern about mass migration is widespread in Britain. And the green position is a tiny fringe minority. And the British poll regularly as wanting to curtail immigration, slow it down.

And so that's actually a centrist position, or it should be. So he has to cover a fairly wide range of political dispositions. You know, if I were out to design the perfect person to rescue Britain from itself in 2029, I'm not sure I would have picked Nigel Farage. He's not entirely to my taste as a character. Why? But you know, regular. What don't you like about him? He's got a slight carny texture, which makes people feel as if he's a little fraudulent,

or he's trying to sell them something. That texture has improved over the years. I think he comes across as more serious than he used to, and I can't help but wish him the best. but I understand why some people recoil a little bit. And more to the point, you have to deal with the real people who emerge in politics. You can't, like a novelist, sit there and design a perfect character

that has all the qualities that you would want. Farage is who there is, I think. And I don't know whether Rupert Lowe has the ability to take that crown away from him. Well, it's interesting because a lot of people thought not, although he is now starting to show up in a lot of the polling. He's got huge momentum online. And I wanted to ask you about him receiving quite an unlikely endorsement over the weekend from a certain John Cleese,

who is on another political journey of his own. He posted about Rupert Lowe, how refreshing to have some straight speaking an answer to woke Molly coddling of people who refuse basic social responsibilities. If I was going to immigrate to a country, I'd learn their language as a first priority. And it was actually this clip that he was referring to,

which has gone viral. It's a sort of interview that took place, I think, in the past 12 months, but it's not brand new, but it's gained new momentum online Rupert versus Ash Sarka from Navarra media, the self-proclaimed communist. Watch this. I'm sorry, we don't need...

No, no, no, no, wait, wait. Let me finish, all right. The NHS exists to provide the best possible care to patients. Now, some of those patients will feel more comfortable speaking in their native language. I don't care. I have no interest in that. Well, fine. They should speak English.

They live in England and they should speak English. Doctors has taken oath to give whatever patient comes to. to their door the best possible quality of care. That is going to involve some translation services. When it comes to things like DEI, I'm sorry, you are picking the things which play to your base. That's your job as a politician. So what do you think of John Cleese,

sort of coming out in favour of Roofett Loat? That to me does suggest there's a bit of a crossover moment happening. Something is happening out there. This is not a usual politician. There is going to be a tussle. It may not be a matter of just Rupert Lowe starting a tiny little operation and it disappears. What frustrates me is that this splitting on the right is so predictable. And, you know, I just hope that the right of center gets its act together before the next general election.

because a single party has to go into that battle. And division will be fatal. If there's still division on the right, you're going to get a coalition of labor and the far left, and you'll have these lunatic greens holding the government to ransom and exercising a veto. I mean, I can't think of anything. anything worse. So, you know, Frajan Lowe, they either have to battle it out until the, you know,

there's only one man standing, or they have to reach an accommodation. That's one of them will step down. But you can't, the stakes are really high now. You ask why I left the UK. it's because the country's falling apart. You know, nothing works. This government is disastrous. The country is sinking into debt. I am very concerned about the fate of the United Kingdom. And it is extremely important who takes the reins of government.

government next go-round. So, you know, the right has to get over this typical, you know, infighting and factionalizing and the narcissism of small differences. And and be united. Because united, I think, the right can win. But there's no question that the right will lose. if it goes in with various parties. Just forget it. Do you sometimes worry it's too late to save the UK? Yeah, of course I do. I'm a festive pessimist.

But that doesn't mean that everyone should just give up and leave. I mean, if I were British, I'm hoping that maybe I would have stuck around. I mean, even so, I felt a little bit like a traitor because the country needs help, and it needs people who believe in it. And I would really like to see a massive culture shift

amongst the British people and in the upper echelons of the universities, et cetera. to just realize there is, you know, that is, this is your home. It has lots of problems. It's time to have faith again in the country and to stop indulging in a kind of luxury pastime of tearing the place apart and doing it down and talking about how racist the British are and how, you know, oh, terrible. slavery and colonialism and all that hair shirdery. I think things are in a bad enough way that the country simply cannot afford that kind of indulgence anymore. Speaking of academics, have you followed the latest travails of Matt Goodwin, who has gone from academic to Reform UK candidate and has now been widely roasted over the publication of his new book,

The Suicide of a Nation over allegations that he may have used AI. But they're now calling him Matt GPT and sort of even mocking him on GB News. Yeah. I know Matt somewhat. I think his heart is in the right place, especially on immigration, which is his main issue. I can't testify to his use of AI. The truth is, if you use Google, then you use AI.

All you do is if you put in a search on anything, the very top of the search is AI generated. You can choose to not read that. You can choose to not use that, or you can at least choose to verify the information in that answer. But we're all using AI in research if we're doing research online. And so I think that snappy nickname, it may stick just because it's snappy. It's cute. but I wonder how unusual of the use of AI in this book really is.

And it doesn't mean that the book doesn't have a point or that all the information in it is inaccurate. I mean, I think there have been a couple of quotes questioned that maybe didn't come out. They're not word for word. Cicero and, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right.

Roger Scruton. It's easy to do. I mean, I try to be accurate myself, but sometimes I'm writing something and I'll, I'll say to myself, look, I'm on a roll here. I'll keep writing and I'll check that later. And then I never end up checking it later. It's an easy mistake to do. So without being intimately acquainted with the specifics of what he's being accused of,

what the inaccuracies are, I can't really tell you whether this is legitimate criticism and this is sloppy work or it's petty criticism in order to bring down someone who is getting, getting a lot of attention and actually, as I understand it, selling a lot of books. Yeah, exactly, which maybe is the most important thing, selling those books. And Lionel, have you decided what you were going to do for your next book? Have you started work on it? Is there another contentious issue that you are looking at? I'm afraid this is a little too predictable.

But, yeah, I'm thinking I may take on the train. things. I haven't started it yet. It's hard for me because this phenomenon depresses me so much. It upsets me so much that I find myself putting it off. But I've at least been reading a lot of books. Also, they that are also depressing me. But I think it's an alarming. fad and it is really upsetting to watch whole cultures and certainly the medical community become captured by an ideology which is insane and completely removed from reality. So I think it's worth a book. I do.

I think you've got to do it. I think there are a lot of tragedies that. that this phenomenon has produced very intimate family tragedies. There have been a lot of families that have been destroyed by some kids suddenly deciding he or she is trans. And I think fundamentally that's what I want to write is a tragedy. Amazing. Well, look, thank you so much for being here today.

Lionel Shriver, it is an absolutely brilliant novel. I couldn't put it down a better life and it is available. Now, of course, wherever you get your books. For me, I'm a Kindle guy. I know a lot of people might judge that, but I am a Kindle guy, so I got it on the Amazon, but it is available in all good bookshops as well. Breaking right now, the British Bashing Corporation, the BBC, in another major scandal, with its most high-profile and expensive radio host, Scott Mills, who took over the Radio to Breakfast show, being sacked in a sudden and unexpected act scene over his personal conduct. Personal conduct that we now learn relates to a relationship he is alleged to have had with another man 10 years ago.

Now, you can imagine there are rumours swirling around the industry, about Scott's lifestyle, about exactly what was going on. But the most important thing I think is that the BBC stops the cover up here because as it stands, they are telling us nothing. And it is hard to believe that a corporation which previously covered up from the likes of Jimmy Saville and Hugh Edwards finds itself having to announce the departure of another high-profile male presenter

in dodgy circumstances. Watch. Now, some breaking news to bring you about the BBC. We can tell you that Scott Mills, the DJ, has been sacked, very well known on BBC Radio 2, has been sacked by the BBC following allegations about his personal conduct. Now, that's the only line that we have, but we do know that the BBC has said that while we do not comment on matters relating to individuals, we can confirm that Scott Mills is no longer contracted and has left the BBC.

So just that line that Scott Mills, very well-known radio DJ, BBC Radio 2, most recently, has been sacked by the BBC following allegations about his personal conduct. And we don't know anything more about that aspect of it, but we know that the BBC says we don't comment on matters relating to individuals, but we can confirm that Scott Mills is no longer contracted and has left the BBC much more on this, no doubt, coming up as we get reaction, because of course, says Scott Mills is incredibly popular, no longer with the BBC. He has been sacked. they do know. They all know. They're all chatting about it. They're all in their WhatsApp groups.

They're all gossiping about allegations which relate to Scott Mills. But of course, because it's their own people, they're trying to shut this down. The acting director general saying nothing to tell, nothing to see here. And Jeremy Vine opening his Radio 2 news show with just 20 seconds of coverage. Thank you very much indeed. It's Jeremy Vine here, BBC Radio 2. Obviously, I was taken aback by that opening story to the news. I had not heard anything about it until 17 minutes ago when it was on the BBC website and I only have the information that was given to you in the bulletin. I have nothing more that it was allegations about Scott Mills's personal conduct,

which have led to him being sacked. I have no more than that. All right. On to today's show. Nothing to see here. Jeremy, you could just leave your office, leave the studio, and go and ask the execs. What's going on? He's your colleague. Come on. Scott Mills wasn't expecting to leave during his final show.

You'd like to vote. BBC.com.com. Radio 2. Send us your vote. Vernon, do yours today. Please. I'm back tomorrow with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Thank you. But of course he wouldn't be back.

Gary Davies, much lower profile BBC host, has been filling in for him since Wednesday last week. And this morning, the left-wing mirror dropped the bombshell. Radio star Scott Mills has been sacked from the BBC following an allegation relating to his personal conduct of the mirror can exclusively reveal. The mirror also understands the allegation. relates to a historic relationship dating back more than 10 years. The 53-year-old was taken off air from his radio two show last Wednesday, while the BBC assessed the information. He was told his contract was terminated at the weekend, sources claim.

Mills took over the flagship breakfast show from Zoe Ball in 2025. The BBC said, while we do not comment on matters relating to individuals, we can confirm Scott Mills is no longer contracted to work with the BBC. The BBC informed staff this morning who are said to be shell-shocked. Lorna Clark, director of music, said in a statement to staff, I wanted to personally let you know that Scott Mills has left the breakfast show and the BBC. I know that this news will be sudden and unexpected and therefore must come as a shock. Not least, as so many of us have worked with Scott over a great many years

across a broad range of our programs on Radio 1, 5 Live, Radio 2 and TV. I felt it was important to share this news with you at the earliest opportunity. Of course, it will also come as a shock to our audience and loyal breakfast show listeners too. I will update everyone with more information on plans for the show when I am able to. While I appreciate many of you will have questions, I hope you can understand that I am not going to be saying anything further now. But could there be a much bigger scandal brewing within the BBC? I mean, Scott Mills, his last post on X, was all about the fact that he was meant to be fronting the Eurovision coverage in May. but Steve Allen, a radio veteran who recently departed himself from LBC, posted this afternoon.

I have a feeling Scott Mills is going to be front page news tomorrow morning. Nobody can imagine what's been going on. One thing for certain, it's not going to be pleasant. Now, you could argue Scott Mills has had some scrapes over the course of his career. certainly someone who partied hard and admitted that in his past he did almost get sacked, watch. Radio presenter Scott Mills has revealed

how he was almost sacked by the BBC. Scott has taken over the breakfast show from Zoe Ball, with Dermodeau-Lie reminding him of how he was nearly fired after a boozy night out at the Brit Awards, playing a clip of Scott slurring his words on his breakfast show the morning after the awards back in 2001.

Oh no, you're not going to play this. Scott's not immune from his own, evenings where he might have imbibed and then maybe appeared on the radio prematurely. Scott Mills. Hi, anyway, welcome to early breakfast. I've been to the Brits.

Wow. If you want to give me a tool for the wake-up call, that would be brilliant. I'd like to make a public apology on air now. Lizzie Buckingham, I'm really sorry. He's literally taking his head, that's called How to Really Nearly Lose Your Job at BBC. And you can imagine the Grifters

are already out to try and get his job. Nurenda Kaur posting this is as good as time as any to ask the BBC. Can I have his gig now, please? I've been asking for 25 years and have no personal misconducts. Goodness me, doesn't this make you long for the legendary days of BBC Radio and legends like Mike Reed, the former breakfast host of BBC Radio One, top of the pops and so much more besides Mike so great to have you on today

I mean let me just do my hair I've been I've been out in the wind and it's uh it's looking I look like Wurzel Gavich you're looking wonderful Mike gosh you are aging well I have to say but but look I mean this is a this is a bombshell right this is a bombshell that no one saw coming this was the type of job he would have been training his whole life for working his whole life for and he only got it last year so what are you hearing? Well, obviously, I have no idea what went on.

We can all probably guess we're probably thinking along the same lines. But the thing is that you're in there one day and earning 350 grand plus top-ups, about half a million, whatever. And the next day, you're out on your ear. And you think, what am I going to do? Who's going to employ me? Where am I going to get money from?

It's like being dropped as a CEO from a major company. to nothing and not being able to work. It's a very, very odd situation. It really is a strange situation to be in where you go home, sit there and think, is anyone going to employ me? Is anyone going to pay me again? Can I do anything? Because only, I guess, he knows and people around him what has happened, whether it's something that will make him unemployable or whether he will be able to get back in if it's sort of something and nothing. I don't know. But doesn't it depend, Mike, because we have heard nothing from Scott Mills all day. Now, he knew that this was going on last week. He's had all weekend. I know Scott Mills's PR team. He works with one of the top operatives

in the United Kingdom who has dealt with scandal after scandal after scandal for years. Used to be the top PR on the X factor, right? When the X fact used to be wild and crazy. So if there was Look, if there was a good explanation for this, surely he should have come out by now already. A statement should have been prepared. I made this mistake. Here's what happened. I cheated. Or whatever it happened to be. It's the silence, which is, I think, very worrying. And also for the BBC, it is too. I mean, I post on X earlier today. The British Passion Corporation must tell us more. What did they know and when? And what has Mills actually done wrong? Because I don't think this ongoing silence and guessing game is sustainable, do you, given that? Because what we don't want to do, Mike,

is unfairly put Scott Mills in a category of Hugh Edwards and Jimmy Saff. We don't want to do that because we don't know. But we need information to be able to be able to make that determination. And by the way, I will stick up for BBC presenters who I think have been treated unfairly and thrown under the bus unfairly. I mean, anyone who knows my cover. from, well, I guess it was last year now, of the whole John Turade, Greg Wallace decision. Do you remember that Master Chef and really John Terode had just wrapped along to a Kanye West song that included the N-word and it was like at an event after work? I thought it was ludicrous that he lost his entire BBC career as a result of this.

But the silence becomes damning here, Mike. Yeah, it does. I mean, we've always been our law is innocent until proven guilty. Absolutely. Now it seems to be absolutely guilty until proven innocent. Nothing is going before courts or anything like that. There is a judgment going on. And the BBC, actually, I have to say, have always sat down with the person concerned

and said, look, if you want to put out a statement, then let us know, we'll give you time to prepare your statement, which normally says, you know, I plan to leave. I've always wanted to set up that pet shop somewhere. You know, I've never really wanted to be on the radio. They give you the chance to exit through the back door and make a statement. But clearly this time, it appears they didn't. I mean, Mike, he does have a chicked private life in the past, but he's been very open about it, right?

Does that matter? I mean, I imagine in your day, Mike, wild stuff must have gone on behind the scenes of Radio One. Should there be an element here of like, certainly when it comes to drug, sex and rock and roll, that that is what is expected at a station like Radio One. Because remember, it was Radio One where Scott Mills was working at the time of these allegations. Yeah, it wasn't the one wild bodies. People always said that, oh, really?

I'm disappointed. What about top of the box? Come on, it must have been wild. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to disappoint as the girl McJack. her took home and you gave her a hot chocolate, put her in the spare room. That's his appointment. Her head of music said, she said, you're quite unusual because you got home and play croquet, write poems for the magazine and have afternoon tea in the garden.

But no, why we didn't hang out to you. It's good you would never cancel. It's that the programs were three hours long. You know, there's no way that I'm going to wait for three hours to have a cover tea with Simon Bates, lovely though he may be. Or Simon Bates is going to wait three hours to have a cover tea with Steve Wright. So there were three hours sections. So we didn't hang out together.

We all had our own lives. When I'd done my program, I'd generally go home. I go and have breakfast and then go home and come in the following day. So we didn't hang out there. There's a whole thing about, you know, the boys hanging out together in the green room. It's not really. There wasn't a green room. There was nowhere to hang out.

So maybe, I don't know, maybe some people were wild. I don't know. But for me, getting up at like a half past four in the morning, you know, my chance to be wild, I don't think, really. and then driving in. So, yeah, I mean, but everyone has a private life. Of course they do. I mean, you know, it's always been this thing as if you're with the bebe,

you should be squeaky clean and white. I mean, that's always to be the BBC thing. But then they're not. Then they've harboured so many paedophiles. I mean, Mike, what do you think Radio 2 does now? Because this is a major crisis. Remember, they lost Zoe Ball sooner than they had. had hoped. Scott Mills was being lined up, but probably took the job earlier than hoped.

Now they have Gary Davies filling it. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, he's not a big name, but I'm not a listener of Radio 2, so maybe I'm missing something there. But this does feel like a station without a lot of style power. And remember, a lot of people are still furious. by the way Radio 2 effectively got rid of the late great Steve Wright in order to bring in Scott Mills in the first place. Yeah, there would be some strange decisions, I must admit, but like football teams, we probably all think we can run the station better than anybody else, whether we can or not.

It's neither here or there. No, Steve was a great broadcaster, great presenter. I think it broke him, really coming up. Yes. No, these days there forever. We know that. But Steve was still on form, doing a great job, presenting great programs. So change for change's sake is always a bit daft, wielding the whip and cracking the whip and getting people out a little bit pointless.

I mean, Gary's a good pair of hands. He's a natural person to put in there. A lot of experience. He's a lovely guy, worked with Radio 1, a smashing bloke. So he's the obvious one from the pack to put in there. But that's what people always said to me. They said, you know, if you, over the years, if you got in at Radio 2, if something came up, they just slot you in because you can just do it at the drop of a hat.

Yeah, it's a strange one. I mean, I do a breakfast show every morning and I enjoy the freedom of it and not the constriction of it that the Beeb have. And our chart is far more interesting than the BBC chart. So I wouldn't like to swap that. Yes, indeed. And remind everyone, Mike, where we can listen to you because I'm a big believer in switching off the BBC, as you know. So I want people to be able to support independent. outlets like this and like yours. So where can people listen to you?

Well, our radio station is heritagechart.com.uk. That's the website. They go there. You can find out everything. We've been going nearly six years. And I started it, the chart and the radio station in the summer of 2020 because a lot of the artists, we were playing their new music. You know, the Nick Kershaw's, Paul Young's, Toyers, Kim Wilde, Howard Jones, all these people. And they said, you're playing our new music, Limal, but Radio 2 aren't. And I spoke to Radio 2 and they said, no, no, we're playing their classics. And I said, but these people still have a career.

And you know, it'd be like somebody saying to you, okay, you've done your bit. And you go, no, no, I'm still worthy, thank you. I'm still here. As good as ever, if not better. So that's why we started it. It's a voting system on the chart. This week we had a record-breaking 105 countries around the world voting on the music. And the music is so much more varied and wonderful than.

the national chart. But I would say that, wouldn't I? Said Mandy Rice Davis. Well, I've just got a message in here, Mike, saying they should put Mike back on the BBC. He should replace Scott Mills. And I agree. That would maybe be the only thing that got me to listen to the BBC again. But who needs it when you have Mike Reed on the heritage chart?

Thank you so much, Mike. And of course, we'll be keeping across this growing new scandal for the BBC. Now, we're going to reveal today's greatest Britain and uni and jackass in just one moment. First to some of your comments, Julia Johnson says Zach Polanski's weekend freak show was a low-down Timu pound shop, Unite the Kingdom. Very, very good point. And Queen Vic on that note says Unite the Kingdom, 16th, maybe want millions of Patriots there, so please turn up, although of course we will be covering it live all day here on outspoken too. And Scott Lassie says the government should prescribe the Green Party.

Thing is, I understand what you're saying there, but guess what they'd do next? I'd prescribe, restore Britain, I'd prescribe, reform UK. So you see why we've got to be very careful about that. Okay, a reminder of the nominees, I went for Zara's Holana for her despicable speech at that stand-up for racism rally at the weekend. Lionel Shriver nominated the bookish type, the trans-owned bookshop charging customers to deface Harry Potter novels in an ongoing effort to attack JK Rowling. And Catherine Veland, a benefits cheat housebound with anxiety who was caught zip lining on holiday. And the results are in.

5% of you going for the bookish type, 8% for Catherine Veland. But an overwhelming win today for your party, Islamist Zara Sultanah. Now look at that, 87% of the vote. And today's Greatest Britain was nominated by Mike Reed. It's Ray Dorset, and he says, Mongo Jerry are in the studio recording Pick It Up, an anti-Litter song because litter has become a national crisis. Thank you so much to Mike for that brilliant nomination today.

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