Dan Wootton Outspoken - DESTROYERS OF BRITAIN KHAN STARMER KAUR YUSUF LAMMY & O'BRIEN EXPOSED IN WORST BRITONS OF 2025

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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If you smoke, quit. If you don't quit, change. Visit unsmoke.ca. No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wharton. This is outspoken episode number 391. A special edition for this Boxing Day Hangover, as we reveal the worst Britons in the world of 2025. Now, can you see, can you see my special, my special top, jingle, ball and it may be a hint. It may be a hint of what's to come, but let's see. And with me today for this Boxing Day special, one of a of our favorites, Bernie Spofforth, the host of If This Is True on YouTube and making his outspoken debut. This is great. Leo curse. Leo, so brilliant to have you. Of course, YouTube, sensation, comedian, and now a bit of a force in the independent media because Leo, the good news for me and for the outspoken audiences, you're no longer full time with GB News for

26, which means we get to speak to you a bit more, I hope. Yeah, they had me. They had me for a long time. I was amazed. I lasted as long as I did. So, yeah, it was a great ride while it did. And now I'm back down the job centre. Well, no, you're not because you've got your amazing YouTube channel.

Bernie, you agree, don't you? Leo is going to be a force in the independent space so much more. Yeah, I think he's going to be fantastic. And I've also just listened to him and the producer having this really, really in-depth conversation about technical things. So I'm sure we'll be able to work his Zoom better than I can work mine. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Okay. Well, look, so great to have you today. Remember, if you want our Royal content, it's still all available over on substack, www. outspoken. Dot live.

But our live Royal Uncanceled Aftershow and Greatest Britain and Union Jackass will return after our special episodes in 2026. But let's get ready to count down. The worst. People in the United Kingdom of 2025. Let's go. So throughout the year, we have literally had millions of votes from the outspoken audience choosing the worst Britain in the world this week.

But what you didn't know is that every single vote throughout 2025 has been collated for this Uber list of the worst Britons of 2025. My God, there is some strong competition. But with my superstar panel, Bernie Spofforth and Leo Curse in tow, let's kick off with number 20. She is the non-leader of the Yor party, possibly the most insane lefty in the disunited kingdom. And that is certainly saying something at number 20 in our countdown. It is Zara Sultan. Bernie Spofforth, this woman just got more nuts as the year went on. Like, they launched this party and then there was an immediate civil war and there was even question marks over where the funding had gone.

Then they had this bonkers conference which decided none of them were going to be leader after all. I mean, she went, I think, from a potential force on the left to a total flop. Yeah. I'm not really sure what's happening in that party, but it's hilarious. It's the best viewing on television. And in fact, I did watch her on one of the Sunday politics shows and listened to her talking about their business ideas, how there would be no owners of businesses anymore except all the workers. And it's such schoolgirl politics that it's unbelievable. to me that she can even

be an MP but it's brilliant for comedy value she's your woman. Yeah I mean Leo goes you've got to admit at that first your party conference there were moments where it couldn't have been scripted better if a comedian like you were writing

a sitcom. There's I mean the thing with a party like your party they're hardcore socialists I'd say I'd go as far as to say communists. You know they're they want to basically they want the state to run everything. They want no private ownership of businesses. They want the state to just get involved in everybody's business and take it off them. It's almost as if they've never read a history book.

But for the state to do that, the state would have to be run exceptionally well. It would have to be run absolutely flawlessly. At the moment, the sort of professional technocrats that we've got, the civil service, labor, you know, the people that are long-term career politicians, they can't do it. They can't run things properly. So Zara Sultana and her motley crew of weirdos from you know, pub basements and communist party meetings say that they can run the entire country better than anybody else. They can't even run their own little party. They can't even get like a website set up to take donations as soon as they set up the website. They all start falling out and arguing over, you know, where the donations were going, the rival things set up. They

can't even, like, name a party. They can't have a conference. They were, like, conflicting rival things with Corbyn and Sultana Brand having their own little, you know, meetings and speeches because they're falling out in their own party. But they're telling us that if they got to run the entire country, it would somehow just be this flawlessly smooth utopia. Like, I don't think so. I think we'd descend into civil war in about 30 seconds.

With the entire economy nationalized. Look, I did have to say, I loved the clash between the extreme non-binary trans wing of the party and the Islamists, who came to the shock realisation pretty quickly. We want to throw most of these people off the top of buildings, and then the independent MPs quickly scarp it. But look, let's move on, because at number 19 on our list of worst bristles of 2025, is actually the guy who started the year as a joke, although I would say is arguably the real. danger on the lift of UK politics. It's the tit whisperer himself, Green Party leader,

Zach Polansky. And the thing is, Leo, you can obviously laugh at this bloke. I mean, he is a loser, he is a fool, he is a liar, he is thick. But because of the complete self-inflosion of both Labour and the your party, I've actually predicted that at some point this year, I would not be surprised if the Greens actually lead the national polling. I know it's a terrifying thought. I don't mean this year, by the way, I mean 2026. I could see that happening. Yeah, I think if reform get in, I mean, the wind is in reform sales and it looks likely that they're going to win or at least have a plurality in government. But people are likely to become disillusioned with reform and they don't get the revolution that they want.

So yeah, I can see in that situation, the Greens actually taking the next electoral cycle, which is a terrifying thought. Even before then, they're already polling. They've had an incredible rise under Zach Polanski. I've got no idea why. I mean, maybe his hypnotism that makes tits bigger is also, you know, managing to convince some people. And it's weird because so many of their followers, their acolytes, see Zach Polansky as the savior to their problems. of, you know, low wages or high living costs, you know, high housing costs. And in fact, it's mass immigration that's causing those.

With mass immigration, you're competing against the whole world for your wages. So, you know, a guy from the Horn of Africa is definitely going to deliver that pizza for cheaper than you are. And with mass immigration, you're also competing with the whole world for housing. So, you know, the prices of fixed assets such as housing gets pushed up. So the Greens seem to have completely, you know, they've taken these issues that are caused by mass immigration and they're offering a false solution, which seems to be more mass immigration. Obviously, the Greens want mass immigration because they're bringing in people who are going to vote for them. I mean, that's the real reason they want them. They seem to have become completely divorced from any actual environmental issues whatsoever because we know that, you know, bringing somebody from the third world, bringing somebody from Sierra Leone or the Congo, to the UK, where they start living a Western lifestyle, that means their carbon footprint 250 times, just exponentially, an insane level of, you know, carbon emissions increases. So, you know, if you're a real green politician, you'd be saying, no, we want a hard border, we want to, you know,

start deportations. But Zach isn't saying that. He's just interested in power. He's bringing people in. He wants people to come in because he knows they're going to vote for him. totally i mean bernie do you view this guy as a joke or a threat oh just a complete joke and i think sarah should go to the greens because then at least i just have one party that i can laugh at because currently i've got to but the thing about everything leo has just said is completely correct. They are economically completely inept. They have no idea

how they would ever work anything if they got into power and nothing would work if they got into power. The mass immigration and the mass migration of people into this country brings down our standard of living doesn't increase it. And I was stunned. I was absolutely stunned to watch question time, which actually the longest time I've been able to watch it for

is 19 minutes, right? So I did surpass myself. I've broken my own record. And I heard him say staggeringly that he doesn't want to wipe old people's bums. I know. He said it on television. Now, he might have meant something else, but how that came across to the care sector and how it came across to all of those people doing tremendous work looking after people who can't look after themselves was that he was too good for that. He didn't really want to do that. And all English people are too good for that. Not just him, Bernie.

Yeah. All English people. So that's why we need to throw open our borders. Yeah. You know, that's why we've got to import the third world to wipe our mum and dad's elderly bums. It was a real mask off moment, actually. It was like the true champagne socialism.

Yeah, absolutely staggering. And he is saying English people or British people are too good for all of these jobs. So let's have some of those African people to do it instead, or those Indian people, or from somewhere else where they don't get paid much and they're not very educated. It is the most incredibly racist thing. You could ever say, dressed up in this fake virtue. That's what I think. And it's what millions of other people thought.

I'm not sure he can come out and correct that well enough to undo the damage that he did on that night. Yeah, I think, you know, people criticize Zach Polanski for being a hypnotist and trying to make boobs bigger. That's actually his one policy that I'd get behind. I think, you know, that's a good thing to do. And I hope that in the boob enlarging in community, Everybody mocks him for his politics because the boobin largening is definitely the best thing about him.

You can get behind that. You can get behind that. Okay, I don't know if there's anything we can get behind with our number 18 on the list. It's Dr. Scholar, Britain's white hating race beta in chief. And the yokeas, I find it astonishing that this is a woman who's still given a platform and the mainstream media, still invited to sit on the sofas of the likes of Good Morning Britain and Jeremy Vine. when she is a total extremist, there is no place that she will not go. You know, straight after the Bondi Beach terror attack, immediately she had to launch into a rant

about how it's actually Muslims who should be protected. I mean, this woman is the lowest of the low. Also, this year at one point, she even advocated introducing the death penalty as long as white men and Rupert Lowe were the top of the list. I mean that's that's insane and if it was a white person it was a Brit saying these things they'd be hauled in front of a court to answer for hate crime or speech crime laws straight away the amount of sort of discohesion that she she stirs up you know the amount of sort of uncomfortable hatred that she she stirs up with her comments I just don't get it

She's made a living out of sort of hating the West and hating Britain. But she chooses to live here. I mean, she's the daughter of Nigerian royalty. Why doesn't she, you know, she can live wherever she wants? Why doesn't she go back? She decrises racist. Yeah, let's just say, if we're so terrible, if she hates our Christian country so much, bye-bye, Dr. Shola.

Nigeria's nice this time of year. Bernie, seriously, I'm done. I am done with the. anti-white racists. I'm very confused by this woman because not only can she eat really well on camera, because every video I've ever seen of her, she's stiff in a face with something, which is a brilliant technique and a great talent. But gross.

She makes great videos. I'm very confused by this woman because she does have a large platform. She could do some really, really great things. But Leo's right. if anybody else said those things, they would be arrested. They would seriously be arrested. This is a woman who called Israel a shit stain on the human race. Well, you can't say those types of things, but she could use her platform for things like the absolutely outrageous comments coming out of the British Medical Journal.

researchers writing the FGM female genital mutilation where we cut the genitals of little girls, she could be a real force for good in that area but doesn't bother talking about it at all. She is a Christian woman and 50% of FGM in Africa, in her country, happens to Christians. Why isn't she talking about it? Why is the biggest thing in her life a colour issue when clearly she's sowing the division?

The people screaming these things are sowing the division. And why is she rewarded? It upsets me that she doesn't use her platform for something much more positive. And she's rewarded by the establishment as well. Like Newcastle University made her some kind of honorary doctor or professor or something. and, you know, I'm sorry, but she shouldn't be in a position of, you know, official influence. Although I quite like that I've given her that Dr. Label because I just call her Dr. Scholar,

and I'll tell you why. She obviously says it's racist, but it's not because your former colleague Leo Kirst, Dawn Nissom, once attempted to read out her last name on Jeremy Vine. And she did her best, right? She did her best. It's a difficult last name. And Dr. Scholar immediately went for her and said, you're racist, how dare you not pronounce this,

and sort of got dawn to repeat it time and again on live television. So I thought, no, no, no, no. I'm just not going there. Just not going to, you're Dr. Shola. I had a run in with Dr. Shola on GMB as well. So we were discussing freedom of speech. And, you know, obviously Dr. Shola is, you know, in favour of freedom of speech for herself,

but not for guys like me. And, you know, I was booby-trapped with this question about Burkas and Boris Johnson's, you know, joke about, you know, that Burke is looking like letterboxes. And, you know, Dr. Shola jumped on me. And the amount of hatred and death threats I got from her followers, from her side was just insane. And these are the people who are all like, oh, be kind, be kind, be kind.

But also, we're going to kill you if you say the wrong thing. It's ridiculous. The hypocrisy is outstanding. Do you know what? Let's just take a look at that moment. that Dr. Shola decided to humiliate Dorn Nesam on live TV watch. Welcome back at your watching Jeremy Vine Extra. I'm actually thrilled to be joined by a lawyer, Dr. Shola Moschuk.

How do I pronounce your name Shola? Read it, my darling. Read it. Shog, bam, imibu. Okay. So this is terrible. I know, it's terrible. It's a lot of confidence.

Okay, go back and start again. Right, okay, Shola. Yeah, phonetically, shog, ma'emu. Start, do it again. Oh, come on, I've got the Shola, right. Do it again. Shola, Moss, shog, Mamimu? You just miss the B.

Try again. Go on. Shola, Shola. Shola, welcome to the shirt. No, no, no, you will say my name. Now, read it phonetically. Shog, bam, emu. Okay, Shog, bam, imu, but well done.

There you go, great accent. Oh, Bernie. It says a lot about that woman, right? Yeah, no one can ever get my name right either. It's why I always go by my maiden name when I book restaurants. And that doesn't make them racist, right? Some names are just hard. She does confuse me because I'm sorry, everybody.

I really do think she has the potential to be fantastic. But she just, it's this whole everything is the fault of white people when it just clearly isn't. It just clearly isn't. No, indeed. Well, look, very similar entry at number 17, someone who, gratefully I'd never heard of before 2025.

But now this bloke has turned himself into the head of the Dr. Scholar arm of the extreme wing of the left. It's, of course, Bob Villan, who not only caused all of that hell for the BBC after his Glastonbury performance. But I think Leo Kirst perhaps really showed his true colors a few weeks later when he got his crowd

to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk. And it was like, okay, okay, this isn't just about Israel, right? This isn't just about the war in Gaza. This is about hating all white people. Can we just be honest about it? Yeah, absolutely. And the BBC, again, this is the establishment. giving someone like that a platform. They chose him. He was not a particularly notable act. He was

very, you know, under the radar then. They chose to cover his set at Glastonbury. And, you know, obviously it was all, it was all Palestine flags. You wouldn't know that you were, you were in the UK and, you know, people demanding open borders while they're in at a music festival with very open borders. And people celebrating Hamas, who slaughtered people at a music festival. You'd think people might have a bit of self-preservation when it comes to these things. So, I mean, it was kind of disgusting. He was given that platform. And then he used that platform to, you know, slander Israel, which is, you know, just defending itself against one of the many regular attacks on its soil and on its people. And he also, I think the

worst thing he said was he really sneered at British people. He was all like, oh, I heard you want your country back, you know, shut the end. F up. And it's like, that's, is that a vision of the future? You know, when we have the demographic shift and white people are no longer, you know, the sort of demographic majority in Britain, this is, this is what we're going to have. We're going to be ruled by people like this who openly sneer at us and openly hate us. He's another one that, you know, if he hates Britain so much, other countries are available. Yeah, although maybe not for him now, Bernie, because I have to be honest, I have quite enjoyed this guy learning that.

phrase, fuck around and find out in real time. Because all of a sudden, it's like, oh, Donald Trump's America is no longer welcoming me with open arms. No kidding. Yeah, absolutely. And that's why free speech is so massively important, right? And sunlight is the best disinfectant. Shine a light on him.

That's what you said. That's what he said. We all heard it. Death to the IDF. The sneering at all. ordinary British people. Let's see what, let's see exactly what it is. He thinks about us because his turn will come. I think their turn will come. No, we can't get into the States. There are lots of other countries that he won't be able to get into. Don't shut him off. Let him

speak. 100%. And actually, I think that's a really important clarification, isn't it, Leo? Because what you never hear from us, right, outside of the argument is lock him up. You know, Let's devote lots of police time into putting this guy into prison. We don't want a repeat of Lucy Connolly, of Graham Linnahann, of Joey Barton, of, well, there's so many, aren't there? Tommy Robinson of Katie Hopkins. We don't advocate for that. But I think it is the rank hypocrisy, because you just know, Leo, if this were a figure on the right, say Tommy, on stage at Unite the

kingdom advocating for the deaths of a whole group of people or celebrating the violence that led to the political assassination of Charlie Cook. They would be locked up. Now, we're not advocating for that, but it does just prove the two-tier justice. Absolutely. And I think it's this, you know, now our civilization, I feel like Western civilization is peaked and we've entered this sort of death spiral. And it's almost like the Aztecs, you know, when the, they had the child sacrifice and, you know, obviously a sick society. We're doing the same. Like, we're elevating, our society elevates people like Bob Villain who, you know, really hate the West, hate our civilization, hate the British nation state and want to tear it down

and replace it with whatever, you know, disgusting communist hellhole. They can come up with. They'll no doubt be voting for the Greens or Zara Sultanabran. And, yeah, I think it's I think it's kind of disgusting. I think we should also stop calling him Bob Villain and start calling him Spliff Richard. Indeed. Indeed we should. OK, at number 16 on our list, I know lots of you feel sorry for him

because he can only afford a T-shirt that's two sizes too tight for him. And this year he still remains the Brexit Virgin in chief, Femi, Ola Wally. But this is the reason he makes the list this year because on Lucy Connolly's release from prison, he posted, today the UK right wing welcomes home a terrorist with open arms. Tomorrow thou'll claim to care about national security to justify targeting black and brown people.

Lucy Connolly was one of the instigators of the most widespread terror crises in years. Right wing terrorism. Now, in my interview with Lucy Connolly, Bernie Spofforth, which took place the day following her prison, release. I advocated actually that she could potentially sue Femiola Wally for that. She's not a terrorist and also what he argued was not factually accurate. I sat in the high court for Lucy Connolly's appeal hearing. Her post on X was deleted Bernie long, long before there was even any hint of violence. It did not actually lead to any violence. Those are the facts. Those are the facts. But for Femiola Wally to call someone like Lucy Connolly a terrorist in order to justify his war on white people, and again, there's a theme, isn't there?

Because I think he is a proponent of anti-white racism. To me, it was a new low. It's the same with all of these people. We've said it again and again that hypocrisy is enormous. He's allowed to say things like that. Nobody comes down on him. The authorities don't come down on him. He gets away with it entirely.

Yet, you know, I asked a question and was locked up for 36 hours. How many weeks was Lucy Connolly in prison for? It's just unfair. And I think the British people see it as unfair. I don't really, you know, I just don't understand these people, all their politics at all. I will never understand it. They say they want to be kind, but they don't mean it. Only if you agree with them and their version of kindness.

do they want you to have? Femmy's done nothing, has he really since the Brexit arguments and the debates? And I wonder why. Why isn't he working with the Green Party or with Corbyn's new party? What's that called again? The Your Party. Why isn't he involved in more current affairs? All I ever see him talking about is Brexit. And this from a guy who literally has never had a job, really, in the private sector. dealing with import and export, and so couldn't answer any question on Brexit anyway. It's insane. What's your take on this bloke, Leo? I've got to be honest, Femi actually gives me hope for the future of Britain

because I know a lot of people are worried that, you know, different, you know, people from different backgrounds won't be able to integrate into Britain. And here we see Femmy, who's, you know, got his roots in Africa, I'm assuming, and he's integrated so much. He's got the exact same opinions as a left-wing white woman. And, you know, it's amazing to see that level of that level of integration. He's a Kaffir Karen. Yeah.

He fits that category, right? Yeah, like for him to still be banging the drum about Brexit. And bear in mind, I'm not a Brexiteer. I was a Remain voter. Not for political reasons. I just voted Remain because my mum's moved to Spain. and I want her to stay there. But for him to be still banging on about Brexit,

I mean, like, get a new grift, Femmy. And also the reason Brexit didn't work out as well as we were told is because the entire establishment, you know, half of Britain didn't want it to work. They really wanted it to fail so they could turn around and say, oh look, we told you this would be a bad idea. All the establishment, the civil servants, the politicians,

everybody actually in charge of implementing. Brexit was working their hardest to make sure it didn't work. Okay, let's move to your neck of the woods, Leo, for our number 15. And she still manages to annoy so many, including myself. It is scheming sturgeon at number 15, the former Scottish First Minister, who launched her rehabilitation tour this year, Leo. looted by the way, doing that thing that I think is really gutless, by the way, coming out as sort of a half lesbian, once her political career is over, do you know what I mean?

Like, once her ex-husband is being charged with all sorts that we can't talk about because we would literally be locked up in Scotland, that's how it works there in terms of the legal system. All of a sudden, at that point, Leo, to sell a book, she starts saying, oh, my sexuality is fluid, you know, I don't define myself. And it's like, yes, we've all known this, scheming sturgeon for some time. But it's pretty gutless you doing this now. I thought you were meant to be some lefty liberal politician who would have embraced your lesbian side in power. But she didn't. It took getting out of power, being arrested, releasing a book, having a reputation trashed all of a sudden, Paul the, I'm probably a lesbian card. As a gay man,

that annoyed me. Yeah. And like you said, I don't think anybody was shocked. You know, we had a look at her haircut. We had to look at her shoes. And we knew, you know, everybody knew. We also looked at our husband. And our husband, I think, you know, has probably got a bigger vagina than any woman in Scotland. So, you know, she's split up with Peter Murrell. But the way she exed the SNP was so hilarious over the transgender ideology that she brought through because, you know, she brought through this gender ideology. And she said, It's so wonderful. You know, you can just identify as a woman, and then you're a woman,

and everybody applauded saying, oh, that's so noble and so wonderful. And what happened straight away? You know, how we warned that this would be exploited by evil men to, you know, get access to women's spaces? Straight away. There was a man, a rapist who renamed himself, Ila. I can't remember. I can't remember what the last one was.

Eila. that's it. And, you know, with a tattoo on the neck and everything, just stuck a wig on. Just stuck a wig on and was like, all right, I'm a woman now. And then, you know, in court, he had to be referred to as she and all the rest of it and was placed in a woman's prison. And this was awful. And, you know, then Nicholas Sturgeon was backtracking and saying, oh, well, there's certain situations where somebody can't transition. It's like, a moment ago you're saying, like, you know, anyone who identifies as a woman, is a woman. Now you're backtracking and saying, oh, but there's certain situations where they're not a woman.

well, then they're not a woman. It's, you know, everybody knows it. You know, you could ask a toddler. You could ask the drunkest guy in Weatherspoons. They can tell you the actual truth. I don't know why these supposedly intelligent politicians have so much trouble working it out. So that brought her down.

And it was also all the tawdry allegations of corruption that weren't even, you know, at least Imelda Marcos did it with some style. But this, you know, all these allegations about a motorhome, you know, that was bought with, allegedly bought with SMP, I mean, come on, at least get a, I mean, that's, that's not the motorhome and one extra window. It's not private jets. Bernie, what did you think of this second coming of Nicholas Sturgeon this year?

I try to watch nothing with Nicholas Sturgeon in because I had to watch so much of it during lockdown where frankly she terrified me even then, and the dominatrix of the politicians in the UK locking us down longer. harder, hurting more, that that to me is how she'll always be remembered. The woman who tried to get one up on Boris every week by hurting her population a little bit more. How sick can you actually be? So I try to avoid things with Nicholas Sturgeoning, but I did see her marketing exercise for the book coming out and the fabulous photo shoot she did, but I actually thought it was a joke until I realized she was deadly serious and then I did feel a little bit sorry for her.

But then I remembered her lockdown habits and all sympathy went out the window. No, not interested in her at all. Let's just take a look. Actually, I've got this up here of that photo shoot because a lot of people didn't think it was a spoof. So this was on the frame cover of the Sunday Times. But look, it sort of got worse as it went on. I thought it was. But it's that one.

Oh, my God. Which she really does look like a little cranky. You know the vibes I'm getting from this? This is very, paint me like one of your French ladies, Jack. Okay, let's move on to another former leader who remains a nefarious force on the UK. In fact, on the world, you know, pulling the strings behind the scenes, especially of Slippery Starma at number 14 on our list. It's Tony Blair, and I know Bernie.

Spofforth, he's one of your mortal enemies. We should all fare Tony Blair, shouldn't we? It's right, he's in the list this high. Yeah, absolutely. He is a huge globalist. He left office. Yes, I did vote for him. Yes, I voted for him three times. I'm really sorry, everybody. I was young. And from that time, he's grown this enormous global reach that is incredibly dangerous, in my opinion. He works very closely with the UN. He was instrumental in being behind the scenes and things like the big conspiracy theory, which isn't one, of Agenda 2030. And he has pushed consistently for more citizen control. Now, in his mind, he thinks that controlling the population will make everybody safer and happier,

at the risk of losing all of your freedoms. And Digital ID has been his agenda, his absolute agenda, since 2007, 2008, when he was actually talking about monitoring families so closely, he would be able to, through technology, identify unborn babies that could be potential criminals. You know, there are videos of him talking about this. and it's incredibly dangerous. The fact that he is still given so much reach within our civil service and within our government

is absolutely unfathomable to me. It really is. And I'm thrilled that he's now off the Gaza peace plan because I really don't think that would be useful. But I expect him to pop up in the Ukraine one quite shortly, I'm sure. Oh, of course. I mean, he's got his tentacles. everywhere, doesn't he Leo curse?

Yeah, and like Bernie, I also voted for Tony Blair in 97 and thought it was a wonderful thing when he got in. If only I'd known, if only I hadn't been young and naive as well because a lot of the things, I mean, I think the big thing

things he's famous for, like the Iraq war, I don't actually think you know, that was as wrong or as disastrous as he's criticized for. And if you look at Iraq now. It seems to be prospering. And, you know, obviously, they had a bumpy start and a lot of people died. And that's tragic and horrible. But, you know, they were a destabilizing presence in the Middle East. And the Middle East doesn't need any more destabilizing presences. But the changes he made to

Britain are the real evil that he brought through. Like devolution was an absolute disaster. You know, creating these satellite parliaments that just fight back against the center and taking power away from Westminster, taking it to places where it's got less oversight, less accountability. And, you know, these devolved parliaments were supposed to focus on local issues and really, you know, deliver for the local people with the expertise that they had.

And it was the absolute opposite. If you look at the Scottish National Party, they just have this drum to bang on independence. And so they don't need to do a good job locally. They don't need to deal with the nuts and bolts of actually governing because they can just blame Westminster and bang the drum for independence. And opening the borders, one of Blair's staffers

admitted that they did it to rub the rights nose in diversity. They wanted to bring in people who would vote for the Labor Party, which immigrants did for a long time. Well done. You've destroyed the country. You know, you have imported your own voters, but at the same time, you have destroyed the country. You have caused the rape of young white girls on an industrial scale,

and you've made us all unsubed. safe. So well done. And actually, one of the architects of that is number 13 on the list. This year she moved from Home Secretary to Foreign Secretary, but Yvette Cooper remains a terrible force in this Labour government, Bernie Spofforth. Yeah, she does. I think that people are only just really realizing how dangerous these socialist labor policies are to the country. You know, Yvette Cooper did not vote. for a grooming gang inquiry. And now we still don't have one.

Are we ever going to really get one? I'm not sure we will under labour, to be honest with you. You know, that entire front bench, the entire front bench is absolutely following this globalist totalitarian narrative in every breath they take. and she's no different. She's just no different. What do you think, Leo?

I mean, my favourite moment this year, sir, I was just thinking about it was when she actually went on Wokai TV's Good Morning Britain and was interviewed by her own husband. They were sort of swapping pillow talk and it was, I just thought, imagine if our old employer, GB News had pulled a trick like that. It would be taken off air. I mean, that's the thing, you know, the legacy media say, oh, we provide balance and we, you know, we hold power to account.

It's like, what, a husband and wife team? There's like, you know, you might as well have one chuckle brother interviewing the other chuckle brother. They'd probably make more sense as well. Yeah, I mean, I think one of the most telling points for me, because, you know, labor sort of sold themselves as these sort of reasonable people. But when Yvette Cooper was talking about the leads rioters who were, you know, not British, They're foreign. And when she was talking about the Southport rioters who were British, the difference in the tone was just shocking. You know, with the lead rioters, it was all, oh, we must understand the concerns around the community.

Even though that was over a child being taken into care to protect the child. So that was the state doing a good thing. And that was, you know, that was a child being protected. That's why the community there was angry. Whereas in Southport, obviously absolutely horrific incident, absolutely, you know, just unimaginably horrific. And I just can't believe incidents like this keep happening with the Ariana Grande attack, you know, the slaughter of children by somebody who's been given refuge in this country. Just this, yeah, don't look back in anger. It's probably time to look back in anger.

When Yvette Cooper was talking about the Southport protesters who, you know, you can not. understand why they were angry. I mean, every British person should have been as furious. She was, she was so vindictive and, and dismissive of their concerns. I just thought that was a, that was a real. And you never get that anger after a terror attack from her, do you? Certainly not. Oh, then we have to, then we have to understand the, the issues facing that community. And we have to make sure there's no backlash against moderate, moderate Muslims or anything like that. I mean, it's a bit of a red flag that you have to even use the term moderate Muslims, is it not? I don't. I don't.

Okay, let's move on because this government continued to destroy the country this year, but at number 12, the former Deputy Prime Minister Red Rainer, who Leo was seemingly celebrated for being a champagne socialist tax evading cheat. It's actually up to the anti-Leo. There's more chance of her becoming Prime Minister now

because she dodged tax. Honestly, the hypocrisy around this woman, it's astonishing. Yeah, but you've got to understand there's a swath of Britain who'll admire a single mum, you know, chiseling some money out of HMRC. So, you know, I think, you know, in certain communities, it'll make her popular. But I loved how, you know, labor brought in all these taxes for everybody else. And then themselves, you know, they told everybody else, oh, you've all got to, everybody's got to muck in together.

Everybody's got to pull up their bootstraps, tighten their belts, but they themselves did everything they could to avoid these taxes. And Angela Rainer, she said she consulted with tax advisors. And it's like, well, were you consulting with those tax advisors to make sure you were paying the maximum amount of tax? Or were you consulting those tax advisors to try and avoid paying tax? That you'll pay the minimum amount of tax. I mean, this is, it completely undermines, you know, Labor's whole idea of like, oh, if we all muck in, oh, if we all contribute, then we can pay for all the wonderful things, all the communist stuff.

It's, you know, it was disgusting to see. It really was, Bernie, wasn't it? I think she's completely incompetent, absolutely incompetent. I think, honestly, I'm just saying the same thing about all of them. She got into power. She was in charge of housing. and then basically Labor have built fewer houses than have been built in the last few years under the Tories.

They can't hit any of their numbers because they don't understand how building works. They don't understand that you can't just build cheap houses because they're building companies can't make any money out of cheap houses, right? They just don't get industry at all. At the same time, she's trying to push through this communist workers' rights bill

so that businesses did no longer want to employ anybody and she's there scratching ahead and then as housing minister went off to Ethiopia on the taxpayer's expense to go and have a look at building houses out there. What the hell?

She was loving all of her travellers, Deputy Prime Minister, she made the most of it, didn't she? We're absolutely loving it. At number 11 though, another one of her colleagues who received a promotion this year to Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, who Bernie, I mean, she's not hiding her true colours. She's not hiding the fact that she is an Islamist at the heart of government through and through,

who wants to be the first Muslim Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. I have a problem with the fact that she has said what is more important to her than anything, than her party, than her politics, is her religion. I've got a problem with that. Yeah, it's a tricky one. It is a tricky one because, you know, unlike you, Dan, I do, I don't lump all of Islam into one bucket. I just, I just can't do that. I have no idea what type of Muslim she is, right?

I don't care. What I wanted to do is work for the good of this kind of. and I've seen the photos of her with the Palestine flags and I've seen her at the migrant camps and I'm confused. Where's her integrity? What does she really believe? Can the real Home Secretary please stand up so that I can understand? Because two minutes before you were Home Secretary, you weren't saying these things and now you are Home Secretary, you are saying these things. So what am I supposed to believe? What am I? supposed to believe?

I just don't know. I just don't know. Do I think she'll be the first Muslim prime minister? I highly doubt it because she's in the Labour Party and I think they'll be wiped out at the next election. Absolutely wiped out. What will she do then? Probably get a job at the UN like the rest of them.

The thing is Leo, she does want to push the Labour Party, though, ever closer to this idea of Islamism. And there is a big group in the party who do, want that for political expediency because they realize that the threat to their seats now is on the left, is on the Islamist hard left. I mean, look at people like Jess Phillips and West Streeting and Yvette Cooper and even Angela Raina herself were all nearly beaten by Islamist candidates at the last election. Yep, and five Islamist candidates got in, you know, most of them were in previously safe labour seats.

And how advocating for first cousin marriage in the House of Commons, by the way. But yes, they have that idea. And I say let them marry their cousins. You know what I mean? If there is going to be some sort of civilizational showdown, I'd much rather, you know, we're up against people who can't get their finger through the trigger guard because they've got webbed fingers. But if you look at the, you know, how Muslims voted in Britain in 2019,

85% of them voted for the Labour Party. party. And since then, that is completely dropped off because they've got the numbers to elect their own candidates. So Labor, I guess, are trying to win back that block. I don't think it's working. And I've actually got a lot of respect for Shabana Mahmood. You know, we might be on different sides of the political spectrum and she might be from a different culture. But she's a rarity in politics and a rarity, definite, definite rarity in labor. And that's a competent. politician who can actually you know push things forward and possibly even get things done. I've got the feeling that she is the only person in Labor who's actually seriously committed

to you know changing the way Britain's run to secure our borders and she gets a huge amount of criticism from from Labor voters and from Labor bigwigs who you know all seem to be flocking to the Green Party now. But I think

she you know she's smelt the way the wind is blowing. And what we see with, you know, second generation migrants is that, you know, quite often they have much more of a sort of concern about the country than, you know, we saw it with Priti Patel, Suella Braverman. They have a concern about mass immigration and how it can stay.

Of that, I totally agree. The problem is I just don't trust Shabana MacMood, given I have seen the videos of her, sitting on the Greek island of Lesbos, welcoming those illegals in saying we need to look after them. You didn't see Pretty Patel and Sualla Braviman pulling a stunt like that. But we're into the top 10 now of the worst Britons of 2025 as voted by you. And this one is just an old standard, isn't it?

Although he got worse this year, Leo Kirstis. It's James O'Brien, who actually became so twisted and unhinged this year. He started to abuse his callers. live on air if they disagreed with him. James O'Brien, I mean, what a plank. Also, what's going on with him? Every time I see him, he used to look at least, you know, like slightly healthy. Now he's just this slovenly slobby.

Is he being kicked out by his wife? Is he sleeping in a bus station? Every time I see him, he looks like he's got bits of hedge sticking out of his hair. And he's always got that, I mean, I think he's permanently disfigured his ear by constantly having it sticking out like that. And dapper laughs, Dan O'Reilly does a brilliant pastiche of him. But yet every take I see from James O'Brien is just the absolute, you know, the burning trash bin of out-of-control liberalism.

And I think he's also now starting to see that a lot of the positions that he thought were noble and just and good are actually creating a huge amount of disharmony in this country and driving this country to a very bad place. Bernie, he's, I mean, one of my most hated. He really is. Although I think he's on the way out. I really do.

You see, I absolutely love listening to his show, particularly when I'm driving, because nothing makes me feel better. Nothing makes me feel better than realizing every day that he is completely wrong, even though he wrote a book about being absolutely always right. And I love it. I love it. I love listening to him and hearing the complete and utter mulch that comes out of his mouth as he tries to be so virtuous and kind and literally hates anybody who disagrees with him, even when he's completely wrong. And of course, earlier this year, we had that huge problem with him taking the phone call and basically having. an entire conversation with somebody about Jewish practices

in schools, that he then had to go on air and apologize for the misinformation he had spread. And again... It was a letter that he read out. Ah, yes, a letter he read out. An email, wasn't it? But again, if someone else had done that...

They would have been arrested. Yeah, 100%. And if that had been a presenter on G.B. News, James O'Brien... Yes, and James O'Brien would have led his show day after day after day, calling for them to be fired, calling for them to be cancelled. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And that's why I can't really.

And it's difficult because Julia's on the other side, right? Julia Hartley-Brew on talk. I have to mingle the two. And yeah, it's a horrendous listen. Absolutely, you must do it. We're continuing our countdown of the worst Britons of 2025 as voted by the outspoken audience on YouTube in your millions throughout the year. And I thank you for those votes every single week. And at number nine, a figure who in the past was a beloved Britain, but that's all changed since Meg said it's Prince Harry,

who Leo curse, remarkably this year, actually went down in the public's estimations even further. And I think in part, Leo, it was because of the desperation of this guy, who is now prepared to sell his soul to go and spread his woke bullshit in front of a group of Canadian real estate agents. He's that desperate. I mean, this is someone who, once he left the British Royal Family, claimed that he wanted to change the world that it was all about humanity

and now he'll sell himself for a couple of hundred thousand dollars to speak to a group of real estate agents I mean good lord things have collapsed yeah I mean this is this is some like Prince Harry you know he's a prince

it's a pretty easy job being a prince it's quite hard to get fired you know Prince Andrew managed it but you know unless unless you do something extreme it's pretty hard to get fired get fired. You're literally in that job as a birthright. And I think it gave Prince Harry, and this has happened to other princes as well. It gave him an inflated sense of his own capabilities. And he thought he could do any job just as well as he could be a prince. So,

you know, we flounced off to Netflix and Spotify and created, you know, started creating content with, with Megan. And, you know, obviously I'm not casting aspersions. I'm a much less successful content creator than Prince Harry and Megan. You're really not, Leo. You're really not. And that's the extraordinary thing. And imagine if you'd have the budget

and you'd had the platforms that they had and yet nothing could stick. I mean, indeed, this was... This was probably the worst moment of the year. Yeah, nothing sticks. So their Netflix deal has just dwindled, their Spotify deal. You know, I think everything started off well because if people tuned in to see,

oh, what's the fuss about? What are they doing? I don't know if you watched any of Megan's cooking show, but it was just her arranging like crudities on a platter around a tub of hummus. It was, you know, I can do that. And I'm not a chef. So, yeah, he's really sort of floundered since then. So I'm not surprised.

I mean, if I could get a job speaking to Canadian realtors for a couple hundred grand, Oh my God, I would be on that. I'd be there in a second. I'd pay for my own bus fare. That'd be a great gig for me. But also his hypocrisy around things like climate change. He bangs on about how we need to reduce carbon emissions. But when he's saying that, he's usually speaking at a conference that he flew in a private jet to get to. So if you wanted to reduce your carbon emissions. He went on a private jet to China to talk about climate change. And you can even get a train. You can get a train to China. You can get a train to China. Or you know what he could do. He could do what we're doing and do it over Zoom.

You know what I mean? We are saving the planet, Dan, and we deserve to have a seat on the UN board for climate reparations for that. I mean, Bernie, there was also a serious side, of course, to Prince Harry's horror this year, because he gave that interview to the British bashing corporation where not only did he suggest that his father was in the last throes of his cancer battle, but he also publicly criticized his government over this home office court decision not to provide him with security, um, security funded by us. It put his dad, who is battling cancer, in just the most terrible position. Finally, Charles did agree to a face-to-face meeting in September. And then within

days, Harry had leaked all of the details about what happened in the meeting. And it's like, good lord do you never learn man i don't think harry is very bright basically i think he is intellectually challenged you like mccrown we're talking about i love it you're far more of a princess than megan marco would ever be well exactly and i can also chop coup d'etés and put them on a plate nicely but if we're doing royalty i'm wearing a crown um Basically, Harry is a very bright, and he's grown up all his life, thinking he has this extraordinary amount of power and he doesn't. And I think what he's tried to do is manipulate every situation without the brains to do it.

I also think Megan tries to manipulate every situation because she also thinks she has more power than she actually does. And every time they do something, they just fall flat on their face. What he did over his father was appalling. I also think right at the beginning, the Oprah interview was appalling. I think they make the most dreadful errors. And now I hear, I'm fed this by the mainstream media, that they're trying to come back.

And apparently, when he gets his royal protection back, he wants to come back to the UK. And apparently she's not opposed to it either, because there are some business things she could do here. Oh, no. Please God, no. I know. I thought we got rid of them.

I mean, I think it will happen, won't it, Leo? Because the problem is they need this proximity to Britain and the British royal family for them to have any type of commercial cachet anywhere else in the world. Absolutely. Yeah, and they've got huge expanses. You know, they didn't. I mean, if I was leaving the royal family, I might get like a two-bedroom flat somewhere,

you know, a nice cottage somewhere. But they spaffed all this cash on this huge mansion in Montes, is it Monticino? Montecito, yeah. Montecito, and it's the poshest part of California, which is, you know, the most expensive part of a very expensive country. So they're obviously anticipating that the good times are just going to keep rolling. They're going to get a new Spotify deal,

a new Netflix deal every year. But, you know, when you're one, the one story you've got to tell is about, you know, spilling the beans on the royal family. How many times can you spill those beans? You know, eventually the can's going to be empty. And I think the can's empty now. So now they're going to come groveling back

to try and, you know, maybe they can move into whatever spare room. Andrew was in now that he's been booted out. So, I mean, to be honest, to be honest, to not even suggest it. I couldn't deal with them being in this country. But no, you're right. It is a case of diminishing returns.

Let's continue our countdown. At number eight, this is interesting. Not many right-wingers on the list, but Zia Yusuf, the chairman of Reform UK, formally makes that position. And Bernie, a lot of this was because of what he did to Rupert Lowe earlier in the year, which I do just to this day. I find totally reprehensible. I think it disqualifies him from being a senior figure in British politics, despite claiming to be anti-woke, despite claiming to be free speech. orientated. He reported Rupert Lowe to the police for so-called herty words during an argument, took them out of context, Bernie, and the police in the end took this no further. But as Rupert Lowe

says, he wanted to get me locked up for words in an argument. And Yusuf was under a huge amount of pressure. Lots of people wanted him to go from the party. So he did quit in a massive half where he said, oh, this just isn't worth my time. You know, a big hissy fit. He threw a hissy fit. And then within 48 hours, he was back in a more powerful position. And I don't trust this guy, Bernie. I really don't. I, um, the problem that reformers got is that Zia Yusuf is incredibly experienced in business and clearly quite talented. You know, you hear him on the television. He's very eloquent. He knows his details. He knows his facts. He comes across very well. But it is clear that it's his way or it's no way. And what happened to Rupert was

just unprofessional. It was deeply, it just was not the right thing to do. And he didn't come out smelling very nicely afterwards. I mean, Leah, have you got to know him? Because Zia Yusuf seems to basically live in the GB News studios. Did you know? Did you ever meet the guy? I've only met him briefly at a party. And I've got a lot of respect for his business experience. I know some people cast aspersions on it. You know, I think he's got the sort of business mind

that will actually be very useful in government and stripping out so much of the waste and the profligacy in the public sector and running things more efficiently because, I mean, that's what we could really do to, you know, then we won't need to put up taxes. And then, you know, we won't need to, you know, we can actually chip away at a public debt. But yeah, this, the way Rupert was treated, I mean, the trouble of the right is the right, because the left is a bunch of collectivists, it tends to stick together in a blob much more harmoniously. Whereas on the right, we're all individualists.

So that means there's more conflict. You know, everybody wants to do it their way. And they, you know, they tend to be more competent people so they think they can do it their way. And we see, you know, movements on the right fracturing and falling apart, as we've seen with, you know, Ben Habib splitting with reform and with Rupert Lowe splitting with reform. But the way Rupert Lowe was treated when he, when that fracture happened, really concerns me for how reform might govern. I've got the feeling. And I'm a big fan, big supporter of reform. I think, you know, they've done amazingly.

I think, you know, Nigel Farage is, you know, he spent decades getting to this point. and he's finally going to take power. But when they get into power, I've got a feeling they might come after people that are further to the right of them and punish them even more harshly than the current establishment is punishing them because they'll want to signal to voters

that they're not as extreme as these people on the right. And they'll also want to remove any threat from the right as well. So that concerns me. I think we could be seeing actually a more intolerant environment for people on the right when, if and when, reform take power. And number seven, we're back to the left. And it is Jess Phillips, who really fluffed in so many ways the Pakistani Muslim rape gang inquiry this year, Bernie. Yeah, absolutely awful.

And you alluded to it before is that in a number of labor seats, they have very high percentage of foreign constituents and very many Pakistani Muslim constituents. And Jess Phillips, I think, has a tiny, tiny majority and is going to lose her seats. So what she's tried to do, instead of going out in. a flame of glory and standing up for what she believes and standing up for British girls, she's bowed down to them to try and keep her job. That's exactly what it looks like to me. And in doing so, she's ruined all those years of hard work that she has actually looked after women and girls. Her big tantrum in Parliament was just embarrassing to see. She made an utter fool of herself. and she's just going to lose her seat

and she'll go down in history instead of being the woman that stood up for women and girls she'll go down as the one that when the chips were down, she walked away. Yeah, I mean, Leo, it's just terrible, isn't it? And again, she's someone who, we know what her priorities, she was nearly beaten by an Islamist candidate, you know?

Yeah, and to see a woman like that walk away from chips. But yeah, when she was actually voted in, when she, you know, accepted the vote in the hall where all the candidates were there, it was very interesting. She was booed and heckled by the Muslims, by the Islamists in the hall. And afterwards, because over her campaign, she and our staffers were subject to so much intimidation and harassment from the Muslims in the area. Not all the Muslims, but, you know, there was a significant portion who were directing all this harassment towards. her. And some of it was getting physical. It was intimidation. You know, we see

it in the Middle East. This is how they scare people into, you know, not wanting to be political figures. And then when she accepted the result of the vote, she just scraped in and she accepted the result of the vote, you know, she was heckled by the Muslims

in the hall. And then afterwards she was interviewed and she was asked, you know, what do you think about the harassment you know, from, you know, people, supporters of your Muslim opposition candidate. And she said, well, I don't think it's relevant at all that they're Muslim. It's relevant that they're men. And the way she just deliberately, you know, skirts around that issue,

just deliberately hides that issue. It was almost like a microcosm of how the Labor Party and the left-wing establishment ignored issues with that community before, with the grooming. gangs, which was essentially a rape for votes scandal because that community was voting for labor. Labor didn't want to go in and upset the apple cart by investigating or dealing with the issue. And now what's interesting, because that community has stopped voting labor, I think labor have more of an incentive to investigate that issue. So I think we're going to see this labor government actually getting a bit tougher on that issue.

And number six, another senior member of the Labor government, Ed Miliband, who Starrma just can't sack Leo. Like, he tried to get rid of this extreme environment secretary this year, but he just can't get rid of him. There's nothing he can do. Yeah, so apparently Starrmer said to Ed Miliband, you know, sent him a, like, you know, I'm firing you from the front bench, firing you from the cabinet. And Ed Miliband just replied being like, no, no.

you're not going to do that. Man, I didn't know that was an option. All the times I've been fired. Like, I didn't know you could just turn around and be like, no, actually, I'm not going to go. But that just shows, you know, the sort of weakness that Starmer's got, but also the power that the blob have got. Ed Miliband is the absolute figurehead of the blob. He's pushing forward all these ridiculous ideological projects. You know, he's in charge of net zero. And so he's making sure that, you know, British energy costs as much as possible. And, you know, we're not competitive on the global stage because our manufacturers can't afford to manufacture anything. And what's insane is that green energy could actually be delivering a new industrial revolution in Britain.

If you look at China, if you look at China, how they've managed to harness, you know, the free market to create amazing world-leading tech in solar panels and robotics and stuff like that. And they're exporting it around the world. and it's producing essentially, you know, very, very cheap, almost free energy. Once you've got these solar panels installed, it's just free energy. You think Britain, with our heritage in creating the modern world, we'd be leading that. But no, net zero is always just a way of bringing in communist controls and regulations that hurt Britain. It's never a way to, you know, to make us leaders on the world, stage. And this is where Ed Miliband has absolutely unforgivably dropped the ball.

Totally. We're into the top five of the worst people, the worst Britons of 2025. No surprise here, Calamity Lammy, who again was rewarded, Bernie, rewarded with a promotion to the most second powerful man in the country as a result of his incompetence this year. You just couldn't make it up, could you? The man who believed, that other man can grow a cervix and become a woman with hormones and stuff, which is what he said on LBC radio, is now in charge of justice. What can you even say on that when one of his first jobs is to remove an over 800-year-old right from us of jury trials and then say it's to clear up the court system,

which is a complete and utter lie. It's an absolute lie. It's unfathomable to me that this man can be in charge of justice in the UK. Absolutely unfabble. He's always been so stupid, though, like the mastermind appearance. It's not like we've ever not known this. And unfortunately, it does show, doesn't it? You know, if you call

people Nazis for voting Brexit and the Labour Party, if you call Donald Trump a far right extremist and compare him to Hitler, you're going to reach the top. Yeah, to be honest, to be honest, putting David Lammy on mastermind, I mean, that's

almost satirical. That's that's setting him up to fail. That's like setting me up as a ballerina or something. That's an absolute nonsense. Yeah, Bernie's right about the jury trials. This is a terrifying moment for British justice. The one thing that's between a lot of people and jail is the fact that you're going to be judged by a jury of your peers instead of some activist, left-wing judge

who's angling for a seat in the House of Lords with their labor cronies. And we've seen, you know, so many times there's, is it Jamie Michael's the guy who made some very valid points in the wake of the Southport attack and was then prosecuted, reported by the Labor Party, reported by a politician to the police and then prosecuted and a jury took 17 minutes to clear him there was no way he was going to jail unless if he didn't have a jury trial

that judge would have been like yep you're going to jail like Lucy Connolly under massive political pressure totally agree yeah and the other thing about David Lammy is you know we're told oh he's just as British as anyone but what's his number one concern getting reparations for the Caribbean

it's like you know people say He's a terrible politician. I think he's one of the best politicians Jamaica's ever had. At number four, on our countdown of the worst Britons of 2025 as voted by you, she isn't a politician,

but she's a race-baiting grifter, Nurenda core. And maybe one of the worst things about this, Leo, curse, is that she'll actually love the fact that she's on this list. At the same time, Leo, I don't just sign up to that idea

if you just ignore these people because, I mean, this year, for example, Narenda spent more time wasting the time of the British police than anyone else, including, by the way, and this is something that enraged me and the outspoken audience, reporting Lucy Connolly,

to the police the day after she was released from prison simply for sitting down and giving an interview here on outspoken. this is dangerous it's dangerous that the police entertain a woman like this we've seen the wasted time for example and we can't say much about it because it's currently in front of a court but we've seen her do that with lawrence fox for example yep absolutely and you know nirindra car is somebody talks about privilege who's who's more privilege than nirinda car she's got the freedom to just openly you know bad mouth britain at every audience

opportunity. She's another one who hates Britain so much. I'm like, other countries are available. You don't have to be in this racist hellhole if it's so intolerable. I think actually she she likes being in Britain. I don't know. I think she, you know, even though she positions herself as some sort of anti-racism campaigner, she creates more racism than almost anybody else in Britain. And, you know, my uncle came from India in the, it would have been the 60s or 70s. And he loves Britain. He is so patriotic. He, you know, everything, he loves the flag. He loves the royal family. He's a true patriotic Brit. And also, he puts on underpants when he's getting out of a taxi. And as a result, you know, he hasn't been embroiled in all of the, all of the Faragos that

Narenda Narendor Cor has been embroiled in. The one thing I will say in her defense is she'll, she'll she'll go, she'll speak to people from the other side. So she, you know, she went on lotus eaters, you know, in pretty good faith and had a discussion with them. But that's probably just because she absolutely wants fame at any cost. Bernie, what do you make of Narunda? Is it a grift? Does she mean this stuff that she says?

It's another one really. It's quite tricky. I think she does mean a lot of the stuff she says because I don't think she's very bright either. But remember she said, but she said that she was going to go to India. moved to India if Nigel Farage won, right, and became prime minister as a reform UK leader. And then the moment that she saw that they were so far ahead in the polls, she reversed it. So that made me thought, actually, no, you will just say anything. It's just for fame.

It's just for fame. She's put a post out this morning about how brilliant it is in India because she's just got a blowdry done on her hair for $5. And we're being ripped off in the UK. And I'm like, woman, you got a blowdry for $5 because they don't have a minimum wage. They don't have the highest energy costs in the developed world. They're not paying net zero charges and carbon prices. And they haven't had to import all their bloody equipment from China like we do.

She just does not see anything properly. She just says what comes out of her mouth, whatever she thinks. of and just for fame, just for the grift, I think. Yeah, it is. But the problem is, Leo, actually, these are really serious things. And if you look back at Narinda a few years ago, she was very critical of Islam in Britain. Because remember, this is not a Muslim woman, you know, and that to me is the most disturbing thing what because of the grift all of a sudden you've reversed everything that you

previously thought about Islam that you posted I mean incredibly tough things blaming the Islamist community for example for the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs now something that I completely agree with you can actually argue nirinda though was ahead of her time you know she was saying it when Tommy Robinson was but now that she's on the left she's jumped on the Zach Polanski tit whisper a green party train all of a sudden it's quiet on that front. And I think that is actually dangerous. I really do. I really do because she doesn't believe it, but she's pushing this division. That's leading to terror. Yeah. And it's interesting to see. I mean, is she Sikh or Hindu, you know, her background?

Because I know that there's, you know, Sikh girls were also targeted by by grooming gangs. And the way the Sikh community responded in a lot of cases, the men just went out there and booted in the grooming gangs and put a stop to it. So there was that sort of animosity between the communities. So now that she's, you know, now that she's a fully paid up member of the blob, the left wing blob, obviously she can't have any, you know, anti-Islam, anti-grooming gang opinion. So that's why they've disappeared. But maybe there are people on the left.

who's still deep down, you know, they pay lip service to what they're supposed to, but deep down they actually know the truth and they're not afraid of the truth. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, Bernie, it's just the fact that she did previously think the stuff. I think it's really bad. But look, let's move on to the top three of the worst Britons of 2025 as chosen by the outspoken audience in your millions. At number three, it's Rachel Thieves, Rachel from accounts, and I think the low point, Bernie, this year was when she sobbed during PMQs.

But not over the fact that she had destroyed the economy, not over the fact that she's destroyed businesses, not over the fact that she has gone to war with working Brits when it comes to tax, something she promised not to do, but because she thought Slippery Stama was finally going to fire her ass. Yeah, it's just horrendous, isn't it? The whole 18 months has been one hideous, hideous statement from Rachel Reeves after another. You know, the woman who allegedly made up her CV, allegedly fiddled her own expenses, you know, and yet has battered this country again and again and again, lied on that manifesto, wants us to think.

she knows what she's talking about and she literally doesn't she does not know what she's talking about in terms of the dangers of rachel reese is an abomination on this country she's turning the entire country inside out for policies that are socialist through and through they don't care about the farmers they don't care about the working people you know we're going to have a situation in in this country soon, where a shrinking, a shrinking private sector is going to have to fund her increasingly enormous public sector. Where is she going to get the tax from then? Where is she going to get it from then? It's ludicrous. She has to go. She has to go. They both do. I mean, she really does, doesn't she, Leo?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the budget to each other now. Yeah, the budget that we've just had a month or two ago, I mean, that was the moment when Labor really needed to just rip off the bandaid, be honest with the country and say, like, look, we can't afford, we can't afford this bloated public sector. We can't afford all this welfare going out to people. I mean, if you've got like anxiety, you can get like a Mercedes on motability. And it's like, why are we giving anxious people, you know,

why are we rewarding people to have mental health, minor men, mental health issues by giving them high-performance sports cars. You know, if somebody's, if somebody's anxious, I think the last thing they need is a high-performance Audi. That's ridiculous. And I work every day of the week. You know, I barely see my wife. And I'm driving around in a 12-year-old Audi, you know.

Should I just be pretending I've got, you know, some sort of minor mental health issue, minor mental health condition? And, you know, maybe I should bring my autism out. Please be patient. I do have autism. Can I have my free sports car now? It's nonsense. And also, you know, the farmer's tax as well.

Now farmers are saying that they're going to, they're actually elderly farmers are talking about committing suicide so they can pass on the rightful inheritance to their kids instead of it going to the state. You know, when the state comes in, when a left one government comes in and seizes farm, farms and farmland, it never ends well. It never ends with people getting full bellies. it usually ends in starvation. So, yeah, that was the budget she really needed to be, to be honest and say, like, look, we need to, we need to restructure Britain.

We're just, we're running a deficit of 5%. There's no way this is sustainable. And instead, she just kicked the can down the road. She, you know, splurged more money on welfare, which is just to buy votes and keep people dependent. Yeah. Totally. Oh, we're nearly there. And also this, and this whole thing about, you know, being the first woman chancellor, how.

embarrassing. How embarrassing for women. You actually haven't done a good thing for your sex by talking about that at all. Now that we're nearly there, we are nearly there. This is exciting. Who do you think is the worst Britain of 2025? According to you and your millions of votes throughout the year live and in real time, who is missing from the list so far? Well, our runner-up might make things a little bit clearer. At number two, it's London's failed Islamist mayor, Sadiq Khan. And he continued his usual schick this year, didn't he, Bernie, attacking Tommy Robinson supporters, attacking that incredible Unite the Kingdom rally. And I would argue actually sowing more division because it works for him politically. And apparently, Bernie, he wants another term. He hasn't

destroyed what was once the greatest city in the world quite enough yet. No, because he's told by everybody he mixes with that London is the greatest city in the world. You know, he's the chairman of C40 cities that want to do all this 15-minute rubbish and net zero rubbish and further control of the people. I've seen him in committee meetings calling ordinary people like us, far right, we're all conspiracy theorists. He even sat there in front of Susan Hall saying, what do you mean grooming gang? What does grooming gang mean? What do you mean by grooming gangs? When it was completely apparent what grooming gangs were, and now we find out that the police are having to reopen something like 900 potential cases. So to me, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I would never vote for somebody like Sadiq Khan. And it makes you wonder, who is voting for someone like Sadiq Khan? And what do they get out of it? Just for the welfare, because that's all he does. Well, I mean, Leo, there's no better example of a city that has imported its voters by the minions. And I mean, it's... Absolutely. Absolutely.

This is what Labour have done on the scale of a country. And Sadiq Khan is doing it with London. He's bringing in people who will vote for him because, as Bernie says, he's going to spaff welfare on them. And, you know, who wouldn't want that? The thing is, London is a vibrant, healthy city when it's got the best people coming from around the world to make the most money in the financial sector and the services sector and, you know, start businesses and stuff. If you're just importing randoms from the Horn of Africa, from, you know, deeply alien, medieval, violent, misogynistic cultures to London so that. that they can live in social housing and claim benefits just because they'll vote for you.

That's not a recipe for an incredibly healthy city. And I've moved out of London because it was becoming unsafe. It wasn't just becoming unsafe. It was just the general air of, you know, vape shops and deliveroo drivers. Totally. I was walking around a part of London last night. I'd actually been to a comedy gig by the brilliant Dominic Frisbee.

but it was in really like the Islamist hellhole part of London and I was walking around afterwards honestly it was like the third world it was like the third world and then I just saw these little pockets of young woke women and I thought oh you're not safe you're not safe but you have to pretend you are but look okay I'm going to give you a clue I'm going to give you a clue the t-shirt was a clue right from the start the worst person the worst Britain of 2025, it is, of course, slippery stammer. There was no doubt. There was no doubt, Bernie Spofforth, the people hate him. The people hate our leader. We absolutely hate him. He's completely appalling,

absolutely appalling as a leader. I mean, that manifesto, is there anything in the manifesto that he hasn't broken the promise on? Literally anything. No more increase. is on council tax and now they've gone up and now they're giving powers for them to go up even further. He's just been an absolute disaster. And every time something goes wrong in the UK, he hops on a plane and goes over to another liberal leader so that they can pat him on the back and say it's all right. Everything will be fine. We're right. They're all wrong. Just unbelievably appalling. Leo, how long do we have to put up with this bloke? probably not for that much longer

but be careful what you wish for because I think the people waiting in the wings aren't going to be any better if we have Angela Rainer in power we're not going to suddenly have an incredibly well-run country I think it's going to become even more socialist I mean the terrifying thing

about Starmer is he's seen as is kind of on the right of the Labour Party so you know whoever replaces him and I think he will be replaced before we get to the next election could be, could be a lot worse. But yeah, I mean, the trouble with Keir Stammer is he's a lawyer, he's a, he's a legislator. So he thinks words are everything. So, so you see people prosecuted for speech crime that's seen as much worse than actual crime. You know,

how about burglaries, thefts, robberies? How about them being being focused on instead of somebody praying silently in their head or tweeting, you know, a pretty valid opinion? So, so he thinks words are so important. This is why he can come out and be like, oh, Labor are going for growth when all their policies, all their tax incentives are to stifle growth and to reward people signing on, people claiming benefits. So he's got a complete disconnect. He's also got a disconnect with the British public because he sneered people in the wake of the Southwater attacks. He sneered the people who are angry about it as far-ride thuggery. And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I was very, very, very angry.

I was angry that it happened again. I'm angry that it's going to happen again because, you know, our politicians, our establishment won't take the measures necessary to make this country safe. And I don't think that's far right and I don't think it's thuggish. And he talks about the rise of the far right,

the rise of the populist far right, as if, you know, being popular, doing what people actually want is somehow a bad thing. I'm sorry, Keir, but doing what people want is called democracy and maybe you should try it indeed very very well put what a superstar panel of course leo curse in 2026 is going to be a force in the independent media already over 150,000 subscribers on youtube you can find his brilliant channel

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