Dan Wootton Outspoken - DISGUST AS KING CHARLES TURNS STATE DINNER MUSLIM FOR RAMADAN AS ISLAMIST TAKEOVER ROW GROWS

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Fury as King Charles overturns decades of tradition to host a meat-free Ramadan Muslim State Dinner as he gave in to the anti-Christian President of Nigeria at Windsor Castle last ...night. The timing could not have been worse for the monarch, with growing fears about the Islamist takeover of the UK and claims going viral that our Head of State could even be a secret Muslim. Meanwhile, the war over Sadiq Khan’s Islamist Iftar takeover of Trafalgar Square this week continues to rage, with Slippery Starmer using the sick stunt to try and re-secure the Muslim vote. And can the UK even claim to be a Christian country anymore given abortion has now been decriminalised up until birth? Dan will reveal why the King made a huge mistake last night in his Digest. Then analysis from our Superstar Panel: Husband and wife powerhouse Neil Hamilton – the ex-leader of UKIP and former Tory minister – and Christine Hamilton – author, broadcaster and political commentator. PLUS: The war in Iran appears to spiral out of control, with a massive MAGA split, but Donald Trump rightly furious about the biased British Bashing Corporation coverage. AND: Piers Morgan storms off his own show again after a hilarious confrontation with Louis Theroux’s Manosphere star HSTikkyTokky. We’ll show you the footage the Uncensored host thought would stay forever censored. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle sells her daughter Lili after her very public fallout with Netflix. Lady Colin Campbell has the juicy inside story. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 450. I promise, by the way, I'm not going to walk off my own show like Pears Morgan has done in the past few hours. I'll tell you about that shortly. But breaking right now, fury as King Charles overturns decades of tradition to host a meat-free Ramadan Muslim state dinner. As he gave into the anti-Christian president of Nigeria at Windsor Castle last night. It is my particular pleasure to wish you, Mr. President, peace, blessings and an abundance of joy and Ramadan Mubarak. I can only wish you and the millions of Muslims in our countries, Eid Mubarak. The timing of that could not have been worse for the monarch, with growing fears about the Islamist takeover of the UK and claims going viral that our head of state could, could even be a secret Muslim.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I've had people tell me off-camera, they believe King Charles is a Muslim. Wow, who told you that? I won't say. It was someone very, very high up. But I've been warned, don't talk about Islam, it's not safe. Meanwhile, the war over Sadiq Khan's Islamist, it far takeover of Trafalgar Square this week,
Starting point is 00:01:25 continues to rage with Sipri Stama using the sixth stunt to try and re-secure the Muslim vote. The leader of the opposition said that it was British values to attack Muslims praying. I just wondered, I just wondered, Mr. Speaker, if that brings this house into disresput in regards to British values.
Starting point is 00:01:48 How many Christians in a Muslim country are out there at a place like that in their capital city praying to God? And what do you think would happen to them if they did do that? I dread to think, Martin. But can the UK even claim to be a Christian country anymore, given abortion has now been decriminalised up until birth? Decriminalisation of abortion is a question of such legal, moral and practical complexity,
Starting point is 00:02:16 but I do believe it cannot be properly addressed in an amendment hastily added to another bill. Today is one of the darkest days in recent history for Britain. Last night, the House of Lords voted to decriminalise. to finalise abortion up to birth. This was not promised in any manifesto by Labour or any other party, and just 1% of the public support this policy. So I'll reveal why The King made a huge mistake last night, then get analysis from our superstar panel,
Starting point is 00:02:43 the husband and wife powerhouse, Neil Hamilton, ex-leader of UKIP formatory minister, and Christine Hamilton, author, broadcaster, political commentator and so much more. Also coming up on the show today, The war in Iran appears to spiral out of control with a massive maga split, but Donald Trump rightly furious about the biased British bashing corporation coverage. We're going to get into all of that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Plus, I will show you his funniest and potentially most outrageous joke ever in front of the Japanese Prime Minister in the past few moments. As I mentioned, Piers Morgan has stormed off his own show again after a hilarious confrontation with Louis Theroux's Manus Fair star H.S. Tiki-toki We'll show you the footage the unscensored host, thought would stay forever censored. And a bizarre new fakery scandal for Vanessa Feltz, as her crisis-played Channel 5 show is in deep trouble again. This is honestly the most bonkers story of the day. I think you're going to be fascinated by it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Then after the main show, we move over to Stubstack for the Royal Uncanceled After Show as Megan Markle sells her daughter Lily after a very public falling out with Netflix. Lady Colin Campbell is standing by with the juicy inside. story. It's also the last greatest Britain and union jackass of the week. You can vote for your worst Britain in the world right now. Here are your nominees today. I've gone for Dawn Butler. She's going to feature in my digest because she's trying to get Nick Timothy in trouble with the speaker. Christine Hamilton has nominated Andrew Bailey for getting rid of Churchill from our banknotes. And Neil Hamilton has gone for the aforementioned Pierce Morgan for walking off his own show again. So get voting. Keep your comments coming through.
Starting point is 00:04:26 But now, let's go. Not even the state dinner is safe from the UK seemingly official capitulation to Islam. In scenes last night that the mainstream media are either embracing or completely ignoring, King Charles adapted the most important function in our country to Ramadan for the anti-Christian Nigerian President Tanibu in scenes that I believe would have left the late Queen Elizabeth 2nd turning in her grave. Indeed, is it any wonder that our head of state has more interest in Islam than Christianity these days, despite officially being the boss of the Church of England? Perhaps it's just no coincidence that this first Muslim state dinner was held just as the King's House
Starting point is 00:05:28 of Lords gave the nod to abortion up until birth to be decriminalised. Watch the King last night. My wife and I are delighted to welcome you to Windsor Castle here on this occasion. And we are most grateful to you for travelling during this holy month, which I acknowledge is no small sacrifice. And so it is my particular pleasure to wish you, Mr President, peace, blessings and an abundance of joy. And Ramadan-Burarak. Ramadan-U-Barach. Here's how Buckingham Palace worked with the complicit MSM to sell this story as some sort of positive.
Starting point is 00:06:11 So this was the headline, Meet Off the Menu, as King hosts state visit adapted for Ramadan. Monarch caters for Muslim customs as Nigerian President and First Lady enjoy warm welcome at Windsor Castle. And the Daily Telegraph report went on. The King has hosted the first, state visit modified for Ramadan, serving non-alcoholic cocktails, canapes to break the fast,
Starting point is 00:06:37 and a designated prayer room out of respect for his Muslim guests. As Bula Ahmed Tanubu, the president of Nigeria, visited Windsor Castle, the King and his team made history, with a banquet menu based around vegetables and fish, avoiding the issue of halal meat and toasts made with fruit juice. A formal lunch with the royal family, normally a staple of the state visit, was not held in favour of a private audience with the king, an acknowledgement of the President's Muslim faith and his daytime fasting. Canopies were served before the evening banquet for the first time, allowing Muslims guests to eat something after dark as they wait until 9pm for the full meal. It is the first time a Muslim leader has travelled on a state visit to Britain during Ramadan since 1928 and the time of George V. And it was very clear the king just loved all of this.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Mr. President, in anticipation of Eid El Fittir, in Nigeria and across the world, I can only wish you and the millions of Muslims in our countries, Eid Mubarak. And in doing so, let me propose a toast to the president and people of Nigeria. Niger no day carry last. Okay, but I want to give you some facts about the dude who he is celebrating, and I do appreciate. It's not the king's choice who he welcomes for the state visit. It's the government's choice. But here are the facts about Nigeria's president, Boler Ahmed Tanubu, and the vice president Kashim Shatima, who were elected on a controversial Muslim-Muslim ticket.
Starting point is 00:08:16 This broke decades of informal tradition in Nigeria to balance religious representation in a nation roughly split between Christians and Muslims. during sharp criticism from Christian leaders who argued it marginalised Christians and fuelled fears of bias amid insecurity in the North and Middle Belt. Tanubu has faced long-standing corruption allegations while thousands of Christians are being killed in attacks targeting their faith. A report notes 3,490 Christians were killed in Nigeria, that's 72% for the global total in the year to September 2025, reporting over 7,000 in early 2025 alone from Islamist militants and herders.
Starting point is 00:09:05 So this didn't have to happen, okay? There was no need to host this state visit in the middle of a Ramadan fast. And here's what I'm going to tell you. It is all part of the SIEOP, which is forcing us to see the Islamist takeover of the United Kingdom as some sort of normal thing, right? We're just meant to believe this is just business as usual. Like, of course, the state visit is going to be meat-free
Starting point is 00:09:37 and Ramadan friendly and have a prayer room. Of course, it's totally normal. Charles even described the quiet heroes of Nigeria last night, who he says now at the highest levels in the United Kingdom. in the United Kingdom are blessed that so many people of Nigerian heritage, having chosen Britain as their home, are now at the heart of British life, through excelling at the highest levels of business, technology, academia, law, science, sport, literature and the arts. I have met so many of these quiet heroes in our schools, businesses, national health service and universities, including countless young people who have flourished through the work of my King's Trust over the last 50 years. Only last week I was delighted to host a rather lively group of them for a joll off and teethe.
Starting point is 00:10:47 party at St James's Palace. I was firmly assured that the Joloff was only the best Nigerian of course. The real Miss Joe posted, so the royal family in the UK are going to serve food before the state banquet because they will be hungry. Why are we accommodating this? And of course last night's events come after Lauren the insider went viral for revealing, quote, someone very high up, told her King Charles was Muslim.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I've had people tell me off-camera, they believe King Charles is a Muslim. Wow. Who told you that? I won't say. It was someone very, very high up. But I've been mourned, don't talk about Islam, it's not safe. He's had Qataris or Saudis turn up at the palace with a million pounds in cash in a $4,000. Martinem a Mason back for his charity. What exchange is there for that? And do we know this? Yeah, we know this.
Starting point is 00:12:04 This is a fact. That's extraordinary. Now, look, I have seen no proof that Charles has converted secretly to Islam, but what we can be very clear on is that he has prioritised the Muslim faith over Christianity since becoming monarch in his desire to promote and interfaith Britain. And he is desperately out of touch with us, the British public on this issue. I will come to that shortly. And I would argue there are much better ways to do diplomacy, soft diplomacy. The art has currently been mastered by Catherine, the Princess of Wales,
Starting point is 00:12:40 who did this flag dressing yesterday with a historic tiara. So her grey coat dress, which she wore earlier in the was by the British Nigerian designer Tulu Koka. It was a clever talking point decision, according to the telegraph, rather than an obvious note to Nigeria. You needed to know the backstory compared to the Wednesday State Banquet Gown and Andrew Ginn design in a deep shade of green to match the Nigerian flag. Knowing that images of her first Tiari outing in 2026 would beam around the world in an instance, the princess saved her famous flag dressing move once she has deployed many times before
Starting point is 00:13:25 the pinnacle of President Bola Ahmed and the First Lady's UK visit. So that makes much more sense to me, the way that Catherine is doing diplomacy. The King won't be happy today though because the government has finally confirmed via the Times newspaper that the monarch's highly anticipated visit to the US will take place despite Trump's rouse with slippery Stama over Iran. Kate Mancy and Katie Ball's report, The King will be met with a show of American military might when he arrives for a three-day visit to the US with a special relationship at a low-ep. The trip, which has been six months in the making and has involved a reckey to the US by a team of Charles's closest to AIDS and other officials, will go ahead next month, despite tensions between the president and PM over the war in Iran. Now, there had been suggestions that Charles didn't want to do this. He will spend just a day in Washington.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And there are obviously concerns over his health as well, with Pallas sources saying that the shorter program isn't just down to Trump. It had always been planned partly to take into account the King's Advance stage and his recent cancer battle, however, he is said to be keen to squeeze in as many engagements as possible. So look, that is good we need the King in America at the moment. But it is the issue of Islam in the UK where Charles remains crucial. chronically out of touch, especially as so many of us have been left horrified by London's Islamist Mersadiq Khan's Iftar takeover of the heart of England, Trafalgar Square, this week.
Starting point is 00:15:04 We're going to break the record for the biggest ifthar, not just in London, not just in UK, not just in Europe, but in the Western world. Mr. Speaker, even Tommy Robinson, I can hardly believe I'm saying this, has said, today that if the shadow justice secretary have made these hateful comments two years ago, the Conservative Party would have kicked him out. Failure to condemn and sack the shadow justice secretary for the poison and division that he spreads. So that caused this massive political row, of course, with Stamadir calling for Nick Timothy to resign simply because he slammed the act of domination.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And lots of the worst people in the country are weighing in on this, like the Scottish race-based, the failed former First Minister, Humsa Useless, who posted, it shouldn't have to be said, but I'm glad you did Kirstama. Thank you for standing up against clear anti-Muslim hatred being peddled by members of the official opposition. Nick Timothy should have no place in politics, let alone in his party's front bench. So if you criticise an act of Islamist domination, you have Islamists like Humsa useless, saying you should not just not be on the front bench, you should have no role in public life whatsoever. This is chilling stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Cabinet Minister Bridget Philipson has raged. Christians, Jews, Sikhs and Hindus have all prayed in Trafalgar Square. Nick Timothy singled out Muslims then had the brass neck today to sit on the front bench. He should be sacked. The Tories are following reform into the gutter. Neither are fit to govern. Then the extremist Labour MP who wants to succeed Sadiq Khan as London Mayor, Dawn Butler, tried to get the speaker involved.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Watch. the opposition said that it was British values to attack Muslims praying. I just wondered, Mr. Speaker, if that brings this House into disresput in regards to British values. Can I just say, Luke, it's an important point that we need tolerance. And what I would say it's about respecting each other. And what I would say is you put your point on the record, but I'm not going to enter into a debate, and I will leave it at that for the moment. What's even worse, I think, are the fake right winners, like the ex-Torri-Syida Varsie, who added to the hysteria writing, well done, Kemi Baderach, this is how far we have fallen.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You have taken a once great party and reduced it to this, enjoying endorsements and plaudits from convicted forsters in far-right fascist. She's talking about Tommy Robinson there. You have damaged decades of work that so many of us put in to make our part. a decent, inclusive space, and you've committed electoral suicide in the process. Now, that was backed up last night by the ultimate Tory wed Andy Street on Newsnight. Do you feel comfortable with that sort of approach from Nick Timothy? No. I mean, I'd tell you my story. I was mayor of the most diverse place in Britain.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I spent a lot of time during Ramadan and lots of iftars. And the one of the wonderful things about iftars is they always tended to invite people who were not Muslim. and they were cross-faith events and actually I personally believed the more they were held in public places we did at Villa Park Edgemiston Stadium in the city centre invited lots of people along and it was always a way of sharing one faith's belief with another all under the heading of British values and that's what I walked and talked and I hope the Conservative Party will do that in the future should Nick Timothy remain in this shadow cabinet I can't answer that because I honestly don't know why he thought exactly what he did about this one I've given you my view about exactly how I consider diff tars. And I think they're a critical part of particular faith and that should be respected.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Well, maybe things are changing, though, in British politics because Nick Timothy isn't backing down. Thank the Lord. Thank how Christian gods. He posted on XI will not be silenced. Labor are only demonstrating that they cannot see right from wrong. They will not stand up for our way of life,
Starting point is 00:19:14 but we will. A Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader has also taken a stand on this as well. Watch. What we witnessed on Monday in London, in the historic Trafalgar Square, in a country that was based and built on Judeo-Christian values, because that's at the bottom of everything, this country's ever been. What we witnessed there was a group of people headed up, by the ghastly Sadiq Khan
Starting point is 00:19:48 attempting dominance over our capital city and over our culture and what do we get today at Prime Minister's questions the PM defended what happened in Trafalgar Square and said that anybody
Starting point is 00:20:10 that stands out and speaks against it is a bigot. Well I'm sorry Prime Minister I'm sorry the Conservative Party that let most of these people in we are not going to surrender everything that was built over centuries defended at a cost of great blood in two world wars for us to be a free independent nation we will not put up with this any more simple as
Starting point is 00:20:45 and at the Scottish manifesto launch for Reform UK today Sarah Poachan and Another one of the party's MPs went off script, revealing that she was banned from wearing a reform tartan burker on stage. Watch. Oh, my auto key's frozen. And do you know what? The funny thing is about my auto key freezing is my chief of staff and David Ball will go into a complete panic.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Because once I start to ad-lib, the press have a field day. In fact, we were talking about the reformed tartan then, weren't we, whilst I'm just waiting for my auto-key. I really wanted to come on in a reformed tartan burke, but it apparently, apparently, I just wasn't around. One day, let's have one of these events that aren't live streamed and we'll do it. We'll do all the naughty stuff. We'll do all the bits that have gone wrong and all the effing and jeffing when we do our pieces to camera and all the rest. It would be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I think they should keep the auto queue turned off forever. Have to give a credit too, to Lee and. who was sacked from the Tories for his criticism of Khan refusing to back down either. He went on GB News to claim that the London Mayor, and I agree with him on this, was engaging in an act of provocation. I think it's an act of provocation from Mayor Carn. You know, we are a Christian country. And for hundreds, if not thousands of people to turn upon Trafalgar Square,
Starting point is 00:22:27 it reminds me of just a few years back. And because he was there at the time, on Whitehall, there was over a thousand people calling to prayer on Whitehall in our capital city. We are a Christian country, and it rubs people up the wrong way, it rubs me up the wrong way. And like I say, I think it's an act of provocation by Ameriqani. It should be ashamed of himself. And if anybody should be sacked, it should be him.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Would you have a similar problem if there was a mass Christian prayer in Trafalgar Square? Or if a bunch of Jews turned out to prayer, would that bother you? Or is it just the Islam faith you have a problem with? I don't have a problem with the Islam faith as such. I've got Muslim friends. I think this is certain people of the Muslim faith, like Mayor Khan, who want to provoke a reaction from people like me and Quasi, and yourself, Martin. Why would you turn up as the Mayor of London to one of the most public places in that capital city to perform and act, prayers, whatever they call it, knowing full well it would get the backup of millions of people up and down the country.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It's just provoking people, mate, and it should be ashamed of himself. How many Christians in a Muslim country are out there at a place like that in their capital city praying to God? And what do you think would happen to them if they did do that? I dread to think, Martin. I dread to think. Do you want to last two minutes? And the thing is, Khan is evil. Okay, Siddi Khan is evil.
Starting point is 00:23:45 For so many reasons, there is so much that he wants to destroy. And he is now also pushing, and you probably haven't even heard about this, but he is now pushing this desperate Labour government to overturn the biggest democratic mandate in British history. Tonight, the mayor of London, Sir Sadiq Khan, has said Labour should promise to take the UK back into the European Union at the next general election. Well, Chris is live at Westminster with more on this,
Starting point is 00:24:17 or what are the chances of that happening, Chris? Well, Clive, Sadiq Khan has been a long-time vociferous sceptic of Brexit and he is the mayor of a city that leaned towards remain a decade ago. But he has gone a step further, a considerable step further tonight, an interview with La Republica, the Italian newspaper, saying, as you say, that Labor should advocate rejoining the EU at the next election and the party should take the UK into the customs union, the single market, two big structures of the EU before the next general election. That That would be a straightforward breach of Labor's election manifest.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So we're in trouble, okay, because these evil people are doing so much to destroy everything that we have been fighting for and trying to preserve. And is it any wonder in this context, there may be questioning whether the UK remains a Christian country at all, given the House of Lords, have allowed the decriminalisation of abortion up until full term? Clause 208 is a very serious departure from existing law and practice. It was passed in the Commons at report stage in a time-limited debate without the normal benefit of scrutiny in committee or of pre-legislation consultation. My Lords, there have voted, content's 148, not contents, 185. so the not contents have it. So this is just degenerate stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And this was the best our new Archbishop of Canterbury could do to fight it. Decriminalisation of abortion is a question of such legal, moral and practical complexity that I do believe it cannot be properly addressed in an amendment hastily added to another bill. Consideration of any alteration to the abortion laws needs public consultations and robust parliamentary processes to ensure that every aspect of this debate is carefully considered and scrutinised. Lawrence Foxx raised about that. Why doesn't she just object like any common Christian would? Father Calvin Robinson added in her full speech, the so-called Archbishop of Canterbury said the Church of England
Starting point is 00:26:54 recognises that there can be limited conditions under which abortion may be. preferable to available alternatives. There are no conditions under which abortion may be preferable, none. And Sharon Davies share the thoughts of many ordinary Brits writing, couldn't sleep last night. I fear it's a grave mistake, allowing a woman to abort a full-term healthy baby for any reason. I hope any future government will repeal this decision. Well, news on that. Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain have today promised to do exactly that. Today is one of the darkest days in recent history for Britain. Last night, the House of Lords voted to decriminalise abortion up to birth. This was not promised in any manifesto by Labor
Starting point is 00:27:36 or any other party, and just 1% of the public support this policy. On the contrary, over half of Brits believe it should be illegal to terminate a pregnancy after 24 weeks. Britain aborts 300,000 babies every year, and since its legalisation in 1967, 11 million abortions have taken place. This is monstrous enough on its own before you consider the fact that today there are around 11 million foreign-born individuals living in our country. This parallel is not a coincidence. Abortion is a major driver behind Britain's demographic crisis, and these changes are only going to make that worse. Restore Britain's position is clear. We would reverse these changes to abortion law as quickly as possible after taking power. So the UK is in deep trouble. We need leadership from
Starting point is 00:28:21 King Charles, the head of the Church of England. which is why I believe last night's Muslim state dinner was another historic mistake. Now, Christina Neil Hamilton. Neil Hamilton, how do you feel about the fact that this state dinner last night was adapted for Ramadan, which even meant there was a prayer room and no meat was served? And the king just seemed to adore this. Well, you did say quite rightly in your introduction that, of course, the state visit is not something that the king himself promoted or raised. He has to, as a constitutional sovereign, speak via his ministers.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And any speech that he's made, including last night, will have been vetted by the cabinet secretary or whoever is appointed high up inside the civil service to make sure that whatever he says doesn't in any way cross the line of policy. But having said that, and we do have to remember his famous occasion when he said he wanted to be the defender of faiths, not just the defender of the faith. And it is true, he's pretty woolly-minded about a lot of these woke issues. But personally, I'm not bothered about what they ate and drank at the state banquet. I think it's a bit hard on the guests there who weren't Muslims that they had to drink fruit juice rather than a good glass of the excellent wines that are available on these. occasions. But, you know, a state visit is a diplomatic occasion. Goodness knows why the President Nigeria is on a state visit, quite frankly, although it's very important to us in immigration terms because Nigeria now has nearly 300 million people in it, and a lot of them are making
Starting point is 00:30:13 their way across the Sahara and into the European Union and no doubt beyond that across the English Channel. So there are issues that concern Nigeria that should be deeply concerning us too. Also, of course, the persecution of Christians in Nigeria. I do hope that's going to be on the agenda for discussion during the course of his state visit, because this is a great opportunity for us to make a point. Obviously, a state banquet is not an occasion where the king ought to get involved in political controversy of that kind. He makes a few feeble jokes and everybody falls about laughing and a few anodyne and banalities. That's what these events are but I do think that behind all this we have to look to what the government is doing and
Starting point is 00:31:01 promoting the ideas that we've been talking about we know that the government is desperate to shore up its Muslim voter base the little voter base that they used to be able to rely on and identity politics goes through them like the motto on a stick of rock so that's the key point I I think that we should draw from this, is that this is part of the growing Islamisisation of Britain as a matter of government policy. Let's make no mistake about it. No, absolutely. And Christine Hamilton, I do not believe that this would have happened under Queen Elizabeth II. No, I'm sure it wouldn't. And the big question is, why in heaven's name was this visit organised in the middle of Ramadan? There's the whole of the rest of the year he could have come. Why, when it was going to throw up all of all.
Starting point is 00:31:52 these issues. Who decided, as Neil said, it wasn't the king's decision to have it now, but who decided, which brings us back to Labour and Stammer, etc, etc. Who decided? It's unbelievable to me and it links in with what you were talking about as well, about this prayer business going on in Trafalgar Square. It is deeply and deliberately provocative. It is the Islamification, the Muslimification, whatever the word is. I mean, look at that photograph there. Do you wonder, I wonder, whether 90% of the people who were praying there with their bottoms in the air, whether they actually know the significance of Trafalgar Square in our nation's history?
Starting point is 00:32:36 I'm sure it's just a piece of tarmac to them, but it's actually a deeply significant place. It represents one of the best episodes in British history. And for, you know, normal British people, it's an incredibly important place. If they think about it, most people just rush past. But I bet they don't even realize that. I mean, there's a sight of Sadiq Karl there. That man is evil. You're quite right, Dan.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I don't know what other word to use. And as I think you said, somebody said, can you imagine if Christians started to congregate in whatever their equivalent is of Trafalgar Square and held Christian prayer? Absolutely no way. And this is a very, very small thing, but I just wonder, I mean, Kate and her significant. dressing, which she does very well.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And okay, it was the color of the... She was terribly trussed up. She was. And I wonder if that was all a bit Muslimification, don't show too much flesh. I mean, normally, she, without being vulgar, she displays a little bit more flesh, and she looks beautiful, but I thought she looked all very...
Starting point is 00:33:41 Not that that suit was different, but that thing in the evening, I thought it was all very, you know, oh, let's not show too much flesh, because that might offend some Muslims. I may be getting over the top, but that was just my impression of that. Did you think that too, Neil? It's hideous.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Definitely. I think it's screamingly obvious looking at her. Of course, when the Queen went to Saudi Arabia, she did dress in that sober way herself. But that's different. That's going to a Muslim country. And when you're welcoming Muslims to your country, you don't have to follow all their customs. We believe in this country,
Starting point is 00:34:21 in live and let live. But in many Islamic countries, it's live and then let die if you do something which offends their religious scruples. You know, there are lots of Middle Eastern countries where you can't have a Christian church. It's illegal. Exactly. Exactly. And that's fine because that's their country, but don't come here for our state dinner and expect us to put Muslim prayer rooms and not serve our beautiful British beef or our beautiful British pork. And I'm sorry, I'm really angry with King Charles for his constant capitulation to this. I think he's so out of touch with his subjects. You know I'm a monarchist. You know I'm a royalist. But at the end of the day, I would argue that a lot of the decisions that King Charles is currently making are putting the British
Starting point is 00:35:16 royal family at threat because this issue is not going away. So the longer that he stays tone deaf to it and keeps on talking like a politician like David Cameron from 20 years ago, I think the more risk he puts the royal family under. I think he needs to stay away from this. And actually, Charles, one of your big jobs is as head of the Church of England. Your mother, Queen Elizabeth the second took that as seriously as she did her role as Queen of England or as head of the Commonwealth. It was that important to her. So the reason that these conspiracies around Muslim conversion are coming is because we look at your behaviour and we think, why do you talk more about Ramadan than you do Easter? Doesn't make sense. And last night was not good. I'm sorry, I've got to call that out.
Starting point is 00:36:12 huge developments in the Maga War over Iran, but Donald Trump in the past few moments has just stopped the world in its tracks with one of those off-the-cuff jokes, outrageous pieces of humour that only the American president could pull off. And obviously, you've got the people who are horrified in one corner and the others in the other corner
Starting point is 00:36:39 who are like me watching thinking, This is brilliant. Benny Johnson on this. Trump just dropped the funniest joke in presidential history in front of the Japanese prime minister. Trump's son, Eric, said this is one of the great responses to a reporter in history. So I'm going to show you what happened. This was the first visit of Sinai Takachi, the very brilliant, I think, new Japanese leader to the Oval Office. But you know the Japanese. I adore the Japanese. by the way, I've been there many times. And I, you know, they're very respectful people and you could see the horror in her face.
Starting point is 00:37:21 But I'm going to show this to our superstar panel, Neil and Christine Hamilton, who are watching for the first time, look. Of course, no, Japan and US are a very good friend. But one question, why didn't you tell US allies in Europe and Asia, about the war before attacking Iran. So we are very confused about we Japanese citizens. Well, one thing you don't want to signal too much. You know, when we go in, we went in very hard,
Starting point is 00:37:54 and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Okay? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor? Okay? Right? He said, Eskabe. So you believe in surprise?
Starting point is 00:38:11 I think much more so than us. And we had a surprise and we did. And because of that surprise, we knocked out, the first two days we probably knocked out 50% of what we, and much more than we anticipated doing. So if I go and tell everybody about it, there's no longer a surprise, right? Okay, one more, one more, one more for you.
Starting point is 00:38:34 One more from. Oh my God, Christine, you were like that. You couldn't watch. Did you hear the audible gasp in the wrong? room, Christine. I did, actually, I did hear it this afternoon, live as he was saying it, only on the radio. I couldn't see it. I know it was brilliant and a very brilliant, quick thinking on his part.
Starting point is 00:38:52 But as you said, half the world would have been absolutely horrified. How could he possibly bring up the sensitive thing as Pearl Harbor in front of the Japanese Prime Minister? But, I mean, he did and he got away with it. And her face was a picture. I'm not sure she quite knew how to look, what to say, a little bit of a smile, but not much. Yeah, very right smile, Neil. What did you think?
Starting point is 00:39:13 It was very good, very good. I thought it was absolutely hilarious. I mean, he's got a great future as a stand-up comic, I think. Once he's finished with being president of the United States, it was the most superb off-the-cuff piece of a repartee. Clearly, he meant it as a joke and he was laughing. And I think we can laugh with him as well. I'm a massive supporter of Trump in what he's doing in Iran.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And so, you know, I'm entirely on his side. I just wish there were fewer faint hearts in this country who refused to see what good he's doing. Well, it's interesting, Neil, that you're going. Yeah, well, it's interesting that you say that because, of course, it is also the Maga right, which is totally divided now over this conflict. So Joe Kent, he's the former director of the United States National Counterterrorism Center, was just about to give this quite bombshell interview with. Tucker Carlson last night when Fox News dropped this breaking report.
Starting point is 00:40:17 The sources are saying that Joe Kent, the former director of the United States National Counterterror Center, this is from Semaphore, he just resigned. He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information. And the investigation predates his departure. Congressman, your reaction to that tonight. Wow. Well, there's a lot there, and I think that we need to let this investigation play out, but we shouldn't tolerate any leakers in the administration, particularly regarding classified national security interests and information. So we'll let this play out and see where it goes.
Starting point is 00:41:02 But if he was leaking, he ought to be held accountable, just like anybody else would be. Now, five minutes ago, he seemed to think that Iran was a big threat, and suddenly that threat went away. It was very odd. Congressman, thank you very much. Great. But that was a preemptive strike because I think everyone knew that he was about to drop metaphorical nuclear bombs in that Tucker Carlson interview. And he certainly did. Even giving some weight to Candace Owen's suggestion that Charlie Kirk may have been, or that killing the assassination of Charlie, Cook may have in some way involved Israel. Watch this. And then, you know, Charlie Kirk is killed publicly in a very horrific way and we're not really even allowed to look into that at all. And Charlie Kirk was one of President Trump's closest advisors and he also advocated heavily against
Starting point is 00:41:59 a war with Iran. He was in the Oval Office in the lead up to the 12-day war. I wasn't particularly close with Charlie. He was very gracious to me when I was running for Congress, very, very supportive. So we knew each other. And the last time I saw Charlie Kirk on this earth was in June in the West Wing in the stairway. And I said hi to him and he looked me in the eye. And he said very loudly and it's a small, you've been in the West Wing. It's small. It's a tight space. And he said, Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran. Very loudly. He was single-minded. And he walked off and he went, I believe, under the Oval. So when one of President Trump's closest advisors who is vocally advocating for us to not go to war with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the
Starting point is 00:42:46 Israelis, and then he's suddenly publicly assassinated and we're not allowed to ask any questions about that. It's a data point. It's a data point that we need to look into. What do you mean when you say we're not allowed to ask any questions about that? We've been told that this individual Robinson is a lone gunman and maybe he is. But the investigation that I was a part of, the National Counterterrorism Center was a part of, we were stopped from continuing to investigate. And the FBI will say that they stopped that because they wanted to turn everything over to the Utah State authorities, everything's going to trial, it's very, very sensitive.
Starting point is 00:43:25 But there was still a lot for us to look into that I can't really get into, but there was still linkage for us to investigate that we needed to run. down. I'm not making any conclusions. I'm not saying. No, I don't think you are. Because, you know, because of this, this happened. I'm not, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying there's unanswered questions. We know the pressure because of the text messages, the text messages that have been made public, that Charlie was under a lot of pressure from a lot of pro-Israel donors. And again, we know Charlie was advocating to President Trump against this war with Iran. So, Neil, quite an extraordinary claim there from Joe Ken. I mean, he's not going
Starting point is 00:44:02 full on and saying that Charlie Kirk's assassination isn't by the trans lunatic, but he's certainly getting closer to that. And given he was a senior Trump administration official until just days ago, sure he's under investigation. But where do you stand on this Maga split? I know you say you're fully backing Trump. Of course, I do understand those who, Trump stood on a platform of no foreign wars, they took that literally and universally. And I would have been against any war of the kind that we went into in Iraq in 20 odd years ago. But Iran is a completely different kettle of fish. Iran is a menace to the whole of the Western world.
Starting point is 00:44:52 You know, madmen in authority hearing voices in the air and armed almost with nuclear weapons. And not only do they want to repress their own people and the brutal, barbaric way in which they machine gunned demonstrators, peaceful demonstrators, unarmed demonstrators in the streets a few weeks ago should indicate the kind of people we're dealing with. These people have financed terrorism around the world, not least in our own country. They financed Hamas, Hisbullah and the Houthis in Yemen, attacks on Western shipping, all sorts of outrages ultimately are at the hands of the Islamic cleric. in Iran. We could not allow them to get hold of uranium which was sufficiently enriched to be usable for a nuclear bomb.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And the weakness and feebleness of Western leaders over the last 20 or 30 years in particular, but going right back actually to 1979 with the fall of the Shah, which was one of the most catastrophic events in modern history. Have we learned nothing from what's happened in the interim period? We learned nothing from the Twin Towers back in 2001. Who knows what role ultimately the Islamic regime might have had to play in the background in that. So I think that Trump has actually, and will be seen in the eye of history, to have made history in the best possible way. And we just have to wise up in my view in this.
Starting point is 00:46:29 the West. All these people like Macron and Mertz in Germany, they just ring their hands, whereas the Iranians want to ring their necks. And that's the difference. Well, Christine, just before I get you to come in, I want to show you another moment from this Joe Kinn interview where he insists that Iran was not close to building a nuclear weapon. But as Laura Ingram had pointed out on Fox News, that did seem to run counter to what he had said publicly in 2024, but this is what he's saying now to Tucker Carlson, watch. Iran on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon. No, they weren't three weeks ago when this started, and they weren't in June either.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I mean, the Iranians have had a religious ruling of Fatwa against actually developing a nuclear weapon since 2004. That's been in place since 2004. That's available in the public sphere. But then also, we had no intelligence to indicate that that fatwa was being disqualification. obeyed or it was on the cusp of being lifted. The Iranian strategy, it's actually pretty pragmatic. The Iranians are obviously aware of what's taking place in their region. And their strategy was to not completely abandon their nuclear program because they saw what happened to
Starting point is 00:47:44 Muammar Gaddafi in Libya when he said, hey, I've got no more nukes. I'll do what you say. I'll give up my nukes. And we gave him the Nobel Peace Prize? Yeah, we regime changed him and he was executed by his own people in the most horrific way. Oh, sodomized by a bayonet. Right. Okay. So that's what that's the lesson, I think, that the entire region took from that when Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, that's what the neocon neoliberal warmongers. That's the lesson that they showed everyone in the region. And then conversely, the Iranians also knew that if they came out and said, okay, we've got a nuke, whether they were bluffing or not, Saddam Hussein, Iraq right next door. So they kind of had this. And he hung, I think. He was hung by his own people, you know, after a bloody, you know, war that's still essentially going on. inside of Iraq. So the Iranians' position, when viewed from the lens of the region, was actually
Starting point is 00:48:34 fairly pragmatic. They were preventing, you know, themselves from developing a bomb, but they still wanted the ability. They wanted the ability to enrich. They wanted the ability to have some components so that they weren't completely stripped of it. And we always assessed that they were either several months or a year, two years away from actually being able to develop a nuclear weapon. And that's not because the Iranians are stupid people. I think we can tell right now that the Iranians are anything but stupid. They had the ability, I think, that the brain power to actually develop one, or they could have simply traded a ton of oil with Pakistan or someone else to actually
Starting point is 00:49:08 get a nuclear weapon. They were not doing that. We had no intelligence to indicate that they were. Christine, curious? Well, a theory curious. I mean, I have absolutely no expertise at all about this, but as I understand it, what that, is it, Joe Kemp, was basically saying. is that the nuclear weapon business was the same as the weapons of mass destruction.
Starting point is 00:49:32 They didn't exist. And the nuclear weapon threat doesn't exist. I find it very difficult to believe. And obviously I have absolutely zero expertise. But I find it very difficult to believe that if Iran could have a nuclear weapon, I mean, they've said a sort of fatwaar on themselves that they won't do it. I mean, that just doesn't sound right to me. I mean, if they could have developed a nuclear weapon,
Starting point is 00:49:57 Whether they would have used it or not is another matter. But if they could have one in their armoury, I find it very hard to believe that they wouldn't go ahead and do it. But I mean, what he's saying apparently, as I understood it, is that Trump is absolutely wrong. They're not developing a nuclear weapon and therefore he shouldn't have gone in. Very curious. Breaking today, Pearce Morgan has just stormed off his own TV show again.
Starting point is 00:50:26 But this time, he thought the footage would stay censored forever. That's despite the fact his show is ironically titled, Here's Morgan, uncensored. This is why you've got to be careful when you're dealing with these very competent tech dudes in the so-called manosphere, because his interview with HS Tiki-Toki was being filmed by HS himself. And he has since released the entire car crash and a massive boost to his own personal PR. Piers Morgan was hosting this particular show, which will now not broadcast, following the Netflix, one-off special called The Manosphere, where Louis Theroux gets a whole load of these Andrew Tate-like figures, including HS Tiki-Toki and Sneiko together, and really did try and
Starting point is 00:51:32 make them look bad and sort of expose them in a way that the mainstream media does. And of course, Peas Morgan wanted their clout, wanted their clicks, but didn't like it. when HS Tiki-Tickey started going for him personally. And you'll know ever since Pierce Morgan interview with Nick Fuentes, there's been a real narrative forming around Pearce Morgan's wife, Celia Walden. Someone who I've known for years actually used to work with her at ITV, and claims that Pearce is in some way cucked by his very beautiful wife. But I'm going to show you how this full break.
Starting point is 00:52:17 breakdown happened with Pear's and what eventually led to him storming off. It is amazing TV. And as I say, none of this has been broadcast on his uncensored channel. In fact, he hasn't even referred to the interview at all. So the fallout really began when HS Tiki-toki, not his real name, started throwing some mistruths about Pearce Morgan and Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein. That was after the uncensored host claimed that he was. homophobic watch.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Children is up to me. Of course. I don't agree with you going to Epstein's Island and having free coughs with She's Lane Maxwell and the rest of them. But I don't need to bring it up because this is about misogyny and everything like this. Harrison. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Harrison. Okay. I don't agree with that, sir. Three coughs on the island. Yes, nor do I. And as is a stentious fact. Are you sure? Do you want to keep doing this? You'll make yourself look very stupid.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Are you sure, Piers? But I've never been to Jeffrey Epstein's Island. I'm 100% positive. I never met the man, never went to his island, and make Gilein Maxwell for five minutes at a bootlawn. If you've got any supplement... If you've got any supplement... You mentioned a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:53:35 No problem. I have no problem. You're not... I don't think... If I say this very respectfully, I don't think you're very well informed about things like that. Or you wouldn't go there because it's... Why are you in the files?
Starting point is 00:53:46 Why don't you check the 27 references to me in the files? Why are you in the files, so very close to these types of people. Go and check. And all your followers, you can, the great thing about the Epstein files, you can put somebody's name in and you can see everything that comes up. You like to compare me to Tate and Myron and everyone else. Because my name is close to them in the Manosphere. But if I compare you to Epstein and Maxwell, you have a clear problem with it.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Sir, you compare me to Myron and all the others in this homophobic, misogynist. Harrison, whatever world. I'm comparing you to Epstein then because you're in his files. Harrison. Exactly. You're making yourself look an even bigger idiot than you did on the Netflix show. HS Tiki-Toki then raised Pierce's wife.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Okay. And at one point you'll see that he holds his phone up and shows a post that Celia Walden had previously posted on Instagram. It's relatively innocuous. but she's basically lying down and saying something like, oh, there's a pool boy here. And that is when things really kicked off. You make yourself look like an idiot every single day
Starting point is 00:55:00 when your wife is at home posting pictures that you're out and she wants to get used like a toy by a big black man who is cleaning her car. Is that why you have a problem with me? Is that why you're pushing this homophobic narrative? Because I'm the big black man that shag your wife, while you are on holiday. Okay? We can all have a push and a shop, sir.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Let's go back to talking about the documentary and less of the homophobia. Here's what I think about you. I watch the documentary. I think you're a fucking idiot. I think you're a sexist, misogynist, homophobic twerk, who got exposed in a global way by Netflix, by Louis Theroux, for what you are. You're a little half-wit, and you'll make your little followers.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Don't get rattled. Don't get rattled. Don't get rattled. But I don't see any point wasting. There's no point me wasting my time talking to it, is there? What's the point? Exactly. No, no, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:54 Let's chill it down then, because what I just said, there's 50 more things that we can have a stupid back and forth and try and one of each other. Just talk to me normally. Talk to me normally. Talk to me normally. I don't care about your silly insult. What do you mean you don't care? What do you mean you don't care?
Starting point is 00:56:10 I said, it's fact, I can flip it around and show you right now. I couldn't care less about your silly little insult. You're, it's like a two-year-old. Why would I care? A two-year-old? Listen, sir, I don't know why you come on and you talk like you're wholly a now. As soon as you're away, what is this?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Applications are open. All right, let's just... That's your thing, bro. That's your goal. Let's end this, please. Cooked. You know what? I'm not doing this.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Sorry, guys. It's pointless. He was done. And, of course, it's not the first time he's walked off his own show. Do you remember Pairs when virus, internationally when he stormed off Good Morning Britain after the weather presenter Alex Beresford challenged him over his views about Megan Markle. Now, what Pears maybe didn't realize here is he gave HS Tiki-toki exactly what he wanted.
Starting point is 00:57:13 And after the interview, he wasn't done talking about Pears' wife. Indeed, he demanded an apology from Pears or suggested that he might end up sleeping. PIN with Celia Warden. No way, Sunshine, that ain't going to happen. Watch. Is that not your team? One thing led to another and whoops, in bed with Rupert. That's your wife, and you're talking about masculine...
Starting point is 00:57:33 I'd be a misogynist if I was you. You're evicted, lad. Let's see what else. Look, look at the tan, muscular man. When the husband's away, Mr. Suds comes to play. Hashtag you missed a spot. Hashtag not an object. Hashtag but I want to be.
Starting point is 00:57:45 That is your baby, mother. And you dare even show your face on the internet, speak like you're holier than now. You are an absolute goof. Don't ever check. Captain me again. Your wife's watching this as well, though, you are convicted. I dare not DM. I dare not go there with you, okay? I want an apology video in 24 hours. Otherwise your missus are going to be on a flat hour quicker than you can fucking say, cuck. I'll be in the new Mr. Sudd's beat. Now, there was another member of the so-called Manosphere who was meant to be appearing on Pears Morgan Unsensit. After that interview with HS Tiki-toki, it's a dude called Myron Gaines. And he revealed Pear's just dropped the whole segment. And in fact, I've just checked, Pearce has still not acknowledged the. at all on his social media watch.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I was supposed to do a interview with Pierce Morgan. It was supposed to be me, Pierce, and tiki-talkie, H.S. But what happened was as I was sitting there waiting in the fucking Zoom lobby, right, we're supposed to go at 2 o'clock Eastern. He gets into this exchange with H.S. And H.S. mentions his wife. For those of you, they're not aware,
Starting point is 00:58:50 Pierce Morgan's wife is Yeah, there's some problems there. Okay? Here she is right here. We've talked about this before. Here she is with him. Her name is Celia Walden. And here she is In this picture here, posted a snap on Instagram with the caption when the husband's away Mr. Suds comes to play, which is fucking insane to post on Instagram. And it's pissed Pierce off. And he just said, I'm done. Bro was pissed off, man, really mad. And I was like, what the fuck? I wait. up to do this shit, right? And Brogers' rage quits. I'm on the fucking Zoom call, laughing my ass off,
Starting point is 00:59:29 as him and H.S are going back and forth. Now, some people have suggested that Pearce Morgan was a hypocrite by getting so upset because they say in the Nick Fuentes interview, he went very personal by asking Fuentes whether he was a virgin. Honestly, you're just a misogynist old dinosaur, aren't he? For a young guy. I mean, I know I'm the boomer. I know I'm the boomer here. But actually, you're a 27-year-old dinosaur, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Aren't you, Nick Fuentes? All women, all women are annoying. All women grow old. They all get fat. Says the guy, have you ever had sex? No, absolutely not. Wow. Says the guy who's never got laid.
Starting point is 01:00:13 My superstar panel with me now. Christine and Neil Hamilton Now guys I mean Be honest with me Had you heard of any of these people Are you part of the manosphere Neil? Well I wasn't
Starting point is 01:00:27 But I think I will be now No Of course I've never Don't tell Christine there It's not my world Because you know You know what you're allowed to do In the Manosphere
Starting point is 01:00:35 I've learned this from watching The Louie Thru show You're allowed to do One Way monogamy Neil Which would mean You were allowed to go out And sleep
Starting point is 01:00:45 with as many women as you want, while Christine had to remain faithful to you at home cooking your dinner. That's one of their rules in the manosphere. Yeah. Well, I'm very good at sleeping, so that would be fine, wouldn't it? No. No, I mean, it's inexplicable to me. I've never heard of any of these people before. But I thought that what's his name, Tiki Tocky, absolutely owned Pierce Morgan in that catastrophic interview from Pierce.
Starting point is 01:01:15 this has pointed to you he's just proved you know he can dish it out but he can't take it and i thought peers humiliated himself by this constant tirade of abuse which mr tickey-tokkey um just very calmly responded to batting the occasional ball backwards um and he wanted to have a serious interview about whatever it is they were going to talk about which i'm completely unaware of But Peers obviously had him on there in order to try to humiliate and diminish him. But clearly Tiki Tiki had more than Piers's measure. So I think that Piers ought to be nursing his bruises at the minute. Christine, who are you siding with here?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Because, of course, a lot of women are not fans of the Manosphere guys like H.S. Tiki-Toki and say they have very backward views about women. Honestly, Dan, for the last few minutes, I feel as, I live in a parallel universe. I'm sure a lot of people are thinking that right now. For heaven's sake, who is this tiki-talkie fellow? I mean, I don't really ever want anything to do with him ever again. Louis Theroux, of course, we have history with Louis
Starting point is 01:02:27 because Louis spent some time with us and he did his when Louis met the Alston. And you flirted outrageously with him, Christine. But that's a darling. The great advantage of being a professionally happily married middle-aged woman, and middle age then, I'm old now, is that you can flirt outrageously. I love flirting and what's wrong with it? That's different.
Starting point is 01:02:48 But what I find... Did you feel like, because what some of these manusphere people seem to be saying, Christine, is that Louis Thoreau almost turned them over. Did you feel that at all? Did you feel like he unfairly edited you or led you down a gardener path or manipulated you? No, absolutely not at all. We were perfectly happy with Louis. We decided to do it or agreed to do it because we're just the same.
Starting point is 01:03:11 same whether the cameras are around or they're not so that, you know, there's no different. And I think Louis' tactic is he doesn't set out to hang anybody, but if you are hanging yourself, he's not going to stop you. He will just continue to sort of pay out the rope until bang, you've gone. But I mean, I've never even heard of the manosphere. Christine, you were looking. Oh, all over him, Christine, naughty, naughty girl. Can you see the look of terror? in Louis's face there. I must say, well done to whoever found that picture so quickly.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It's very funny. No, I mean, I knew... I was on the floor smoking a cigar next to them. I knew that I'd heard about Louis's thing on the man of... He looks so young there, doesn't he? I mean, you two have not aged at all. You all look young. No, you haven't aged, Christy.
Starting point is 01:04:02 It's an idiotic picture of me, that one, honestly. You've quite put me off my straw. I mean, honestly, Tiki-tocky, we live in parallel. universes. I don't really. But no, the thing I find, let me get back to the point, if I may. Please, sorry. Did Celia Walden really post those things, say my husband's away and I fancy a shag with that great big, hunky black man? Is that what she posted genuinely? Not quite like that. It was just a little bit cheeky, you know, it was a little bit cheeky. But we were one or two others where she was kind of lying back and I don't know. I'd have to go and have a look. Do you know, my trust.
Starting point is 01:04:43 is I've been hacked out of Twitter now and I've been off Twitter now for about two months. And so I sort of feel as I'm shut out of the playground and I've got my nose pressed to the fence and I can't play. So I've been missing all this stuff. There was the post. So this was the post. Look at this. It said wanted, Paul Boy,
Starting point is 01:05:08 no experience needed. It's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke. No, I see. It's a joke. No, I get it. I mean, I haven't seen them. It just the way Tiki-Tockey was talking about it. No, it's clearly a joke. And Celia's got a great sense of humor. She's a fabulous journalist. She writes wonderful stuff. So, yes, it's a joke. And nobody who was insecure in their marriage would do stuff like that. So clearly, their marriage is rock solid. Whatever the basis is. Who knows? The mind boggles The mind boggles But honestly
Starting point is 01:05:41 I can't believe We've just been talking about all that But Neil should he have walked off though That's the thing that I just Oh no Like don't understand Like have the con you've invited these guys on Have the conversation
Starting point is 01:05:53 Why are you storming off peers Of course And he gives as good as he gets This is the problem with peers This is true And I was very impressed With Mr Tiki Tocky actually I mean I don't like all
Starting point is 01:06:08 all this foul language and so on. But I thought he was very self-controlled. He knew what he was doing and what he wanted to get out of that. And so he succeeded and Pierce failed. So I think maybe Pierce is getting time expired possibly. Who knows? Breaking right now, Channel 5's Vanessa show in crisis. As its presenter faces the second major fakery scandal of her career.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Now, this story is truly bonkers, but it's my favourite story of the week. I want to take you through it. So this is the host Vanessa Feltz, and she's not a good woman, okay? She's not a good woman. I'm going to put that out there. And she has been hounded by hoax phone callers, pretending to be dead celebrities and murderers, without producers or the hapless host herself even noticing. The son has reported that at least seven fake.
Starting point is 01:07:09 calls have successfully made it on air without any question, despite the rigorous checks taken to vet callers. And this is astonishing, right, because old viewers will remember, Vanessa was cancelled back in the 90s for a fakery scandal. So when the show asked its audience to phone in on the topic of whether you should always follow your dreams, one caller said he has a friend called Virginia, using blatant references to the convicted killer, Virginia McCulloch, who killed her parents Lois and John in 2019 by poisoning them. She stored her mother's corpse in a wardrobe until both of her parents' bodies were found four years later. It was also reported that the killer was £60,000 in debt at the time
Starting point is 01:07:54 of being captured. So listen to the story that this caller told Vanessa. A friend of mine, Virginia, has recently moved back in with her parents. Lewis and John in Cheltenham. She was in a really abysmal place financially, couldn't get any wet lip, anything like that, and then had to move back home with great ambitions to open her own cafe. She has been watching self-help videos to learn carpentry. She's built a wardrobe single-handedly.
Starting point is 01:08:25 She hasn't got much money, so she buys the occasional jar of mellow birds to practice on. But she's really put the effort into perfecting the craft, of being a barista and is really hopeful to get us off the ground and has created our own drink called Goon Chok
Starting point is 01:08:43 which she really hopes to have out as soon as possible. The hoax callers targeting the show also pretended to be my late friend. Kim Woodburn. You know, the brilliant star of how clean is your house
Starting point is 01:08:59 and celebrity big brother. The caller said they were called Kim and that they were from Cheshire. where she was living where she died, and they used her key signature phrases. Vanessa still didn't pick up on it. Watch. And there's a lot of sort of people commenting,
Starting point is 01:09:15 you know, different stories on people's weight. A lot of the times as well, it's behind people's backs. And I don't like the two-facedness. I find it incredibly. But Kimwood-Bin wasn't the only Celebrity Big Brother star, the callers have imitated. Lauren Harries.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Remember her was also targeted with the fake callers imitating her voice and telling the show she's from Cardiff, the star's hometown. Lauren famously calls her fans her stars, which should have given the game away immediately, but Vanessa Feltz remained none the wiser. Watch.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Pesso and all my stars on the panel. I hope you're well today. Hi, that's a lovely greeting. What do you think? Should children choose their own bedtime, do you reckon? I do think I am for letting children choose their own bedtimes because when I was a child, I was from a very religious family, sort of new religion.
Starting point is 01:10:12 My mum, Bebby, bless us, she was a lovely woman, you know, she'd take me to the Vicky Bins plays in Manchester, but she would always have me in bed by six o'clock sharp. And when she'd put me to bed, I cried. And sort of deep in the night, you know, I heard a cry that would bring better life, but as I got older, I stick to those habits and I still go to bed. six o'clock now. But that wasn't Lauren Harris. She has confirmed that.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Posting on X. Someone appeared on the Vanessa show pretending to be me. I want to make this very clear. It was not me. The person on the phone wasn't impersonated pretending to be Lauren Harris. What surprises me is that Vanessa didn't introduce me on the call even though she has interviewed me before,
Starting point is 01:10:58 so I would have thought she might recognize my voice. With all the researchers and production staff working on a national TV show, you would think something like this simply wouldn't happen. Viewers deserve an explanation. And guys, this gets even more crazy, right? It is not just real-life figures that these pranksters, and they're elaborate, and they're admitting they have put an elaborate plan. I'll come to that shortly. But they are now also using fiction for inspiration for the court. So one fake caller decided to use the domestic abuse storyline. from Coronation Street, which centres on the character Tyrone Dobbs being beaten by his wife, Kirsty Soames.
Starting point is 01:11:41 In one scene, she beat him with a Hoover Nozzle. Listen to the fake call. Morning, how are we today? We're well, thank you. Nice to hear you. Sorry, afternoon. Sorry. Don't worry. Tell me what you have done.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Well, I'll tell you, Vanessa, when I went to Manchester, I cried. You see, good friend of mine, Louise and Fergus have been having some troubles recently and Fergus had really changed. I said to him, I don't know what's got into you, Fergus Carley, but they turn into a right nasty piece of work. And that being said, though Vanessa, his girlfriend Louise does give as good as you get some chance, being rather catchy with him.
Starting point is 01:12:20 As I was saying to my wife, well, he's not been right until he was making him with the ear, and he'd have been overnozzles. Good. And he never asked about my... The son understands it's the same group of people, regularly calling into the show using the same number, sparking questions as to why producers haven't noticed the same caller
Starting point is 01:12:40 is using multiple identities. The source added, it truly beggars belief that in this day and age, not one single person working on Vanessa has realised that the same numbers are calling in time and time again. With these wildly false stories, it makes a total mockery of the program and its premise. Vanessa's show on Channel 5 is already struggling as it is,
Starting point is 01:13:01 and it's an open secret in the industry that it's on the verge of being axed. The last remaining view as she does have will now be more than likely switching off after realizing they have been so horrifically duped. The son has spoken to those involved with making the prank calls in which they told us how easy it is to make it onto the air. Alleging that no real background checks take place, one of the callers said it's not a very thorough process. When you speak to them on the phone for the pre-chat before going on air,
Starting point is 01:13:28 they seem more bothered about just finding someone to shove on the show rather than care about what we are planning to say. They further out of the calls cost 16p, but I was only too glad to get it out my purse to inject some life into this abysmal chat show. And what has absolutely stunned me is that this isn't the first time that Vanessa Felt has been the victim of fakery targeting her shows. You remember this massive scandal in 1999? When the Vanessa show on BBC One ended up being axed after fake guests would appear on the show as staff colluded with an entertainment agency to hire fictitious guests who made up dramatic stories in order to be paid for an appearance on the program.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Now, at the time, Vanessa Feltz, again, said that she didn't know anything about it and she hadn't picked up on it. So for this fact to happen to a second time is starting to look like a real issue in terms of this woman's credibility as a presenter to my superstar panel, Neil Hamilton and Christine Hamilton. I mean, Christine, all of these fake calls getting to air and Vanessa has no idea what's happening. Can you believe it? Well, no, I mean, for the second time we've been with you, Dan, I feel as I'm in a past. parallel universe. It's absolutely extraordinary. But one thing that actually does worry me, I mean, I confess I didn't actually know that Vanessa had a chat show on Channel 5, so I didn't know anything about it. But it's incredibly easy, apparently, to fake somebody's voice. I'm not saying
Starting point is 01:15:10 that those people necessarily fake the voice. You've only got to get a tiny clip of somebody speaking and you can then impersonate them, so which I think is going to become a big issue for a lot of us in sort of normal life, as it were, people are going to be impersonated. But it is extraordinary. The number of staff, researchers, people behind the scenes, whose main job ought to be to make sure that the wrong people don't get through and make sure that the callers are genuine. Well, actually, you do wonder,
Starting point is 01:15:36 you see these sort of problem pages in magazines and newspapers, and you wonder how many of them are really genuine. And great big articles in some of the tabloid newspapers, and you think, oh, come on, they've made that up just for sort of thing. But, no, I mean, poor old now, so it's not, it doesn't look good, does it, especially as this the second time it's happened. Neil Hamilton, who's to blame? Well, I know Vanessa, and I like Vanessa, and she was very good to us when we were really low in the late 1990s,
Starting point is 01:16:07 and we did a whole day with her, Vanessa's Day With, which was great, very good television, and at a time when we needed it. So I'd like to think that she didn't know anything about this. I'd never heard of any of these people, apart from Phil Woodbord. Kim Woodburn, whom I had met several times. And that was a passable impression of her voice. But the others I would have passed over my head, too. No doubt Vanessa knows a bit more about popular culture than I do. But I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt. Well, it's interesting you say that, because I have to be honest with you,
Starting point is 01:16:45 when I was going through my travails, she was a nasty piece of work. And actually, actually, Christine, I mean, you were at my 40th birthday party. She was there. She was there. And then literally a few months later when you'll remember what happened to me, Christine, and I was, you know, I was canceled and lost my job at your news. She was at the time working for talk TV. And I got forwarded these text messages that she was sending about me,
Starting point is 01:17:19 saying terrible things and not supporting me. And so I actually don't think she's a nice person, but I'm glad to hear that she was there for you, but I'm just being honest about my personal experience. I'm sorry to hear that I didn't know. No, I'm very sorry to hear that too. Or, you know, speakers I find, as they say, and as Neil said, she was.
Starting point is 01:17:38 No, absolutely. I'm just being honest about my experience, but I'm glad she was there for you. And not that that's relevant to this story anyway. I don't think she did know that they were fake. I really don't. I think she took them at face value. You know, if you're doing a love,
Starting point is 01:17:51 show like that. You've got to keep your wits about you. You've got stuff coming in your ears and goodness knows what. I think she thought they were genuine callers from the little bit that I've seen. Yeah. And I mean, look, obviously she will probably blame the producers and say there should be better vetting processes. I mean, this is a show that, a block of shows on Channel 5 that has been targeted for a long time. I mean, I even remember going back to the days. Do you remember when it used to be hosted by Matthew Wright. And he used to completely explode when a caller would come on and use the C word or something. And there is a vulnerability there when you're relying on these live course. I mean, it's funny. Actually, I'm just looking at the live chat. Thank you for the super chat,
Starting point is 01:18:34 by the way. Clippy 789, who's number one, our number one supporter today, very much appreciate that. And he says, look, this is peak British trolling, just expose and laugh. And I guess there is that side of it too. Like, I do find this funny. I can't lie, Christine. I'm sort of loving it. Well, it's a traditional British humour jape, isn't it? I mean, it's to call into a live programme and pretend to be somebody else and etc., etc. I mean, brilliant, if you can pull it off. I mean, who are the great pranksters over the years? And we've all enjoyed the humour. But not much fun if it's you that's being pranked. No, indeed. Indeed. Well, look, let me say also, thank you to fan edits and uh dear panan and lorry ross who have all signed up to outspoken plus
Starting point is 01:19:23 today and thank you too to english by the grace of god who said about our earlier conversation i'm ready to go full oliver cromwell who's with me this is of course over the state dinner king charles hosting this state dinner, but adapting it for the first time to all of the Islamist traditions of Ramadan, even having like a prayer room and not serving any meat. And there's a lot of comments from you coming in on this. Helen Shepherd says, Bliss, the king truly needs to watch what is happening to his subject at the hands of Muslims. Moonglow says Charles must abdicate over his capitulation to Islam, forget Andrew. Safety mechanism says to whoever said we are living in an alternative universe. It was Christine Hamilton, actually, who said it. He agrees. He says,
Starting point is 01:20:10 it feels so. It is terrifying. But Stephen Garner says anyone who thinks William will be any different is deluded, in my opinion. Mobb-Obb, 75 says, if Charles has become a Muslim, he should abdicate now. Thousands of Christians have been murdered in Nigeria. And I mention of this. I really hate the way our king is acting. The queen wouldn't do this. I mean, I presume Mobb, Bob is not speaking about Queen Camilla, but rather the late Queen Elizabeth II. English Rooted says we are being groomed into Islam. And Abe IH. 724 says the visitors should follow our customs. We shouldn't bend to them.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Now we're going to reveal the last union jackass of the week. So I've nominated. Christine Hamilton has nominated and Neil Hamilton has nominated. So I went for Dawn Butler for trying to get Nick Timothy in trouble. with the Speaker of the House, I thought that was so bad. Christine Hamilton has gone for Andrew Bailey for getting rid of Churchill from our banknotes. And everybody else. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Not just Churchill, getting rid of all our sort of great heroes. But Churchill's the worst one, though, isn't it? Yes, of course, exactly. Well, people just want to overturn history. They want to blot out all our great, wonderful British history, just because they think, oh, well, one little bit of awful, something happened, and Churchill got shock horror. He just might have said something a bit racist.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Well, for heaven's sake, get a grip. I know. I mean, I'd like to see... Now we've got to have a rat. I know, and I want to see Queen Elizabeth the second actually stay on, because obviously at the moment, you know, the whole process is going through.
Starting point is 01:21:45 And I know Charles, because he's the current king, has to be, you know, but on the other side, I'd like to see Queen Elizabeth. And Neil nominated Piers Morgan for walking off his own show again after that clash with HS tiki-toki. And the results are in. I'm afraid to say Christine Hamilton,
Starting point is 01:22:04 you're in third place. with just 30% of folk going for Andrew Bailey. I'm the runner up today, 28% of you going for Dawn Butler, but wow, it's a big win for Neil Hamilton. 59% of people saying that Pierce Morgan is the Union Jackass for walking off his own show.
Starting point is 01:22:22 And what that means is he is now going to go head to head with Sadiq Khan from Wednesday, Zach Polanski from Tuesday, and Ed Davy from Monday to be named the worst Britain in the world this week. I'm going to put up the poll. straight after the live shows. You can go into the post tab on YouTube and vote for that. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:22:40 And we'll reveal the results this time on tomorrow's show. And you have nominated the aforementioned Nick Timothy as great as Britain. Who wants to explain why? Neil. Because I think, sorry, go on. No. I think Nick Timothy is speaking the truth. And that's something that we've been denied over the last generation.
Starting point is 01:23:05 generation. Well, on immigration and related issues, we've had a massive cover-up by the whole of the British establishment way back going to the 1950s and 1960s. And I think that at last the public are being told the truth, but not by those who are in position to take the policy decisions that could do something about it. But if Nick Timothy, who was a senior advisor to Theresa May, and I didn't think much of in that particular role, has now woken up to what's happening in this country. And the speed of the Islamization of Britain is something we need to take very seriously. When I was a boy, you know, 50 odd years ago and used to travel up to London on the train from Portsworth, where my grandparents lived, I used to pass the single mosque, the only mosque in the entire United Kingdom, Woking Mosque, and how many of them are there now dotted all over the place to reflect the fact that in 25 years or 30 years, we've gone from negligible numbers of Muslims to about 6.5 million, I think, the figure is and that speed of advance is still roaring ahead by uncontrolled migration and also by their rate of reproduction of course which is many times well hours if I
Starting point is 01:24:18 can describe it in that way so this is going to bring enormous changes to British society and you know I don't want to grow up in a country where there's a mosque at every street corner and people are wearing their clothes the burqers and what not. I want our culture, the one which I grew up with, and which I admire, and which I think has done the rest of the world an enormous service in so many ways. I don't want to see that disappear simply by force of numbers. No, very well put. Very, very well put. Well, people shouldn't be afraid to speak out. We've all been cowed. You can't say anything because you're regarded as, I mean, racist has got nothing to do with race at all, but that is.
Starting point is 01:25:05 what you're labelled with if you made any sort of criticism. No, no, I totally agree. And that's why we need people like Nick Timothy to not capitulate and say, no, no, no, no, no, you're misrepresenting me, but I stand by what I say, and so far that has happened. So the majority of people in this country will be horrified by that Trafalgar Square performance. Totally, totally, totally. And what Sadie Khan has done is to thrust Islamic bottoms into the face of the British people. Indeed he has.
Starting point is 01:25:35 quite literally. Neal Hamilton and Christine Hamilton today's superstar panel. Thank you both so much. Oh dear. It was very brilliant. We covered it all today. And we're moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow. Oh my goodness, it's just going to get even more wild because Lady Colin Gamble is standing by. We're going to unleash her on all the big royal news of the day. There is a hell of a lot of it. So you can join us over there at www.w. outspoken.com. live. That is www. outspoken.com. I will be back with you tomorrow. 5 p.m. UK time. It's 1 p.m. Eastern at the moment, 10 a.m. Pacific. I'm so sorry. One of our American viewers when we came on today said, Dan, you're an hour late. I'm so sorry, we go by UK time and we haven't changed for daylight saving yet. It does happen. I think, gosh, I think we've got one more week of this. Yeah, I think we've got next week. I'm pretty sure. So at the moment, just for this little brief, period, please remember it is 1pm UK time, 10 a.m. Pacific, and we're still 5pm UK time. So believe
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