Dan Wootton Outspoken - DONALD TRUMP SECRETLY HATES KEIR STARMER AS HE LAUNCHES WAR WITH UK PM & FRANCE'S MACRON

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Donald Trump secretly HATES Slippery Starmer and is finally ready to go to war with the UK’s Two Tier Prime Minister over the issue of the Chagos Islands in a dramatic destruction of the special relationship by our leftist globalist non-leader – and Trump isn’t taking any prisoners, also turning on Macron overnight. But Starmer should have been warned with Karoline Leavitt calling out the UK specifically over free speech, something Starmer has lied about multiple times in front of Trump. Dan will reveal in his Digest that what this is really about is that Starmer has lost control of his party and is facing an imminent leadership challenge from Wes Streeting. Also at Davos today was David Beckham, doing his best to deal with the fallout of his own son Brooklyn Beckham exploding Brand Beckham. Dan will reveal the truth about this story. Then reaction from the Superstar Panel: Father Calvin Robinson – co-host of Fox and Father on YouTube – Lauren Lunn Farrow – host of Lauren The Insider on YouTube – and making his Outspoken debut Nate H – host of The State Of Politics on YouTube. PLUS: Sly News axes the Press Preview in a desperate bid to stop the thrashing they’re taking every night from GB News. AND: Prince Harry targets the females who have dominated Fleet Street for decades, including The Sun’s Editor Victoria Newton and The Daily Mail’s Royal Editor Rebecca English. We’ll reveal the Mail’s fightback in court today. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: The real reason Meghan Markle didn’t want Prince Harry to pursue his case against the Mail, as his relationship with Chelsy Davy is front and centre. We’ll have all the latest with our Royal Mastermind and Prince Harry’s biographer Angela Levin. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Find an agent today at dejerdin.com slash business coverage. No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 408. And breaking right now, Donald Trump secretly hates Slippri Stama and is finally ready to go to war with the UK's two-tier Prime Minister over the issue of the Chegos Islands in a dramatic destruction of the special relationship

by our leftist, globalist, non-leader, and Trump isn't taking any prisoners. Also turning on that prick Macron overnight. But we have as well to accelerate the deepening of the single market. Well, nobody wants it because he's going to be out of office very soon. So, you know, that's all right. What I'll do is if they feel like costo, I'll put a 200% tariff on his wines and champagnes. Starma was warned.

With Caroline Levitt calling out the UK specifically over free speech, something to Tech Care has lied about multiple times in front of Trump. We've had free speech for a very, very long time in the United Kingdom. and it will last for a very, very long time. Well, no, I mean, certainly we wouldn't want to reach across US citizens, and we don't, and that's absolutely right. But in relation to free speech in the UK, I'm very proud about our history there. We've had free speech for a very, very long time here, so we're very proud about that.

We're not censoring anyone. We're not encouraging the use of tariffs to ensure that countries around the world are not punishing their citizens in this way. And at the same time, the president is, while he's leveraged, leveraging the United States to safeguard our interests abroad. He's also making sure that freedom of speech remains here in the United States of America. What this is really about, of course, is that Stama has lost control of his party and is facing an imminent leadership challenge from where's streetie. I'll reveal what's really going on in my digest.

Also, at Davos today, of course he was at the World Economic Forum, David Beckham, doing his best to deal with the fallout of his own. own son Brooklyn Beckham, exploding Brand Beckham. David, do you have a message for Brooklyn this morning? David, you disappointed family business is being aired in public? What I've found personally, you know, especially with my kids as well, use it for the right reasons. You know, I've been able to use my platform and my following, you know, for UNICEF.

And it's been the biggest tool to make people aware of what's going on around the world for children. And I've tried to do the same. I've tried to do the same with my children to educate them. They make mistakes. Children are allowed to make mistakes. That's how they learn. Now, I know a lot about this story. My view might surprise you. It might even annoy you, but I'll certainly be revealing the truth. Then reaction from my superstar panel. Father Calvin Robinson, co-host of Fox and Father on YouTube.

Lauren Lund Farrow, host of Lauren The Insider, also on YouTube, and making his outspoken debut. Nate H. He is the host of what I have to say is my favourite new show on YouTube, The State of Politics. Also coming up on the show today, Sly News acts as the press preview in a desperate bid to stop the thrashing they're taking every night from G.B News. And Prince Harry targets the females who have dominated Fleet Street for decades, including the Sun's editor, Victoria Newton, and the Daily Mail's Royal Editor, Rebecca English. we will reveal the males fight back in court today. It was very dramatic. Then in the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow over on Substact, the real reason Megan Markle didn't want Prince Harry to pursue his case

against the male revealed as his relationship with Chelsea Davy becomes front and centre. So we're going to have all the latest with our Royal Mastermind, Prince Harry's biographer, Angela Levin. You can sign up to watch www.outspoken.live. Another Greatest Britain and Union Jackass will also be revealed at the end of the show. Here are your nominees for the worst Britain in the world today. You can vote in the YouTube live chat, by the way. Craig Guilford of the West Midlands Police, formerly, nominated by Drew 59 Blue,

who says instead of being sacked was allowed to retire. I believe that he was allowed to retire because he was forced by Labor to ban the Maccabee fans. The aforementioned Prince Harry, nominated by Julie Ann Lowe, for his never-ending war on the press that him and his darling wife love to brief so very much. And of course, that is true. There is so much irony. And Lisa Dandy, too, nominated by its only Me 44, for claiming that reform would lead a fascist government. So get voting.

Keep your feedback coming through. I'll read out the best at the end of the show. But now, let's go. Repeat after me. Donald Trump hates slippery stummer. Yes, I see. said hate. Sure, he also has serious concerns about Nigel Farage being, as Elon Musk put it, weak source, but he still hopes that issue can be resolved. But with Tutankir care, it's now too

late. For months, senior sources in the Trump administration have assured me that the president has not been suckered by Stama's lies and the moment would come when the Donald was ready to strike. This morning, that moment came. To much delight of those of us patriots who have long described the Chegos Islands stitch up as the biggest sellout of Britain and the West in living memory. Now, you remember Trump had previously been agnostic on this, watch. Well, we're going to have some discussions about that very soon, and I have a feeling it's going to work out very well. They're talking about a very long term, powerful lease, a very strong lease. about 140 years, actually.

That's a long time. And I think we'll be inclined to go along with your country. The signs have been there all week that a major change was coming. Trump's official spokeswoman Caroline Levin, launching this broadside at him over free speech. Perching the use of tariffs to ensure that countries around the world are not punishing their citizens in this way. And at the same time, the president is, while he's leveraging the United States to safeguard our interests abroad,

he's also making sure that freedom of speech remains here in the United States of America. So I don't have any additional actions to preview for you today, but I can tell you this is a priority for the administration, and the president is not afraid to use the economic might, the military might of the United States of America to protect free speech around the world. Sure. Quick follow, which is just, there was a Reuter story saying that the Trump administration was looking at this Europe-U.S. Trade deal as one of the sticking points, this issue of the censorship, not just of U.S. platforms of Americans. Do you have any updates on how those trade talks are going? And I also wonder if the President is concerned about NATO membership. NATO membership requires that you be a democracy and you have free speech. Is it possible that some of these actions that we've seen in Romania, France, and Germany would disqualify those countries from being in NATO after this? I have not heard the president discuss NATO membership in regards to this issue in particular, but I have heard him discuss the issue of free speech and the importance of free speech with foreign leaders around the world, including the prime minister of the United Kingdom when we were

in Scotland. The president brought this up and how important it is for the prime minister to protect free speech in the UK and in various conversations with other world leaders. So he brings it up and I think the entire world knows that this is a priority for the president in the United States. Then, just as the UK was waking up this morning, the bomb to make life even more miserable for that poor prisoner lady Victoria Stama in Downing Street was dropped. Trump posted, shockingly, our brilliant, and he had put brilliant in inverted commas, NATO ally the United Kingdom, is currently planning to give away the island of Diego Garcia, the site of a vital US military base to Mauritius, and to do so, all caps. for no reason whatsoever.

There is no doubt that China and Russia have noticed this act of total weakness. These are international powers who only recognize strength, which is why the United States of America, under my leadership, is now after only one year, respected like never before. The UK giving away extremely important land is an act of great stupidity and is another in a very long line of national security reasons why Greenland has to be acquired. Denmark and its European allies

have to do the right thing. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So finally, the gloves were off. The lies over free speech like this have not been forgotten nor forgiven. Infringements on free speech that actually affect not just the British. Of course, what the British do in their own country

is up to them, but also affect American technology companies and by extension American citizens. So that is something that we'll talk about today, watch. We've had free speech for a very, very long time in the United Kingdom and it will last for a very, very long time. Well, no, I mean, certainly we wouldn't want to reach across US citizens and we don't and that's absolutely right. But in relation to free speech in the UK, I'm very proud of our history there. We've had free speech for a very, very long time here, so we're very proud about that. We're not censoring anyone. Now Trump's bombshell came just hours after this,

notable interaction between Nigel Farage on G.B. News and the US speaker, Mike Johnson. The British government has listened to a non-binding judgment from the UN court and has decided we're going to give it to Mauritius, who never had sovereignty over it in the first place. We're going to pay for the privilege to do so. There is no protection under this treaty for the Chinese or others to get close to Diego Garcia to start spying. and we're not just talking about airplanes here, we're talking submarines, we're talking nuclear capability. I don't understand why America has not been more forthright in saying this is a bad idea. It's a good question. I share your concern in general. It's obviously a very important location for us and for the UK.

We recognize that. I don't know that the president has spoken directly to the issue or is forcefully enough to your point, but I would assume he shares the same concern as you have. And I do about that. I've spoken to him about this particular issue. I talk to them sometimes multiple times a day, but this one hasn't come up. We've had a lot going on. Well, I accept that. I completely accept that. And you've had so many priorities.

But don't let this one go, because I'm genuinely worried. I also think in terms of the special relationship, us giving you the use of Diego Garcia is one of the most important things that we give you. I agree. And here's the thing. Varage now clearly more influential with the US administration than Emmanuel. Macron. That little prick, who I think must have been slapped again by his wife Brigitte, because did you see how he turned up to Davos? Watch. But we have as well to accelerate the deepening of the single market. On all these sectors,

the 450 millions and inhabitants and consumers market should be the domestic market of all the EU companies. It's not yet the case, the case as long. as... Sorry, sir, I don't even give a damn what he's saying. I'm just so struck by the sunglasses. But Trump knows that the era of Macron is over and he completely destroyed the French president. Have you invited President Putin to be a member of the Board of Peace? Yeah, he's been invited. Do you have any response to President Macron saying he will not join the Board of Peace? Oh, did you say that? Well, nobody wants him because he's going to be out of office very soon.

So, you know, that's all right. What I'll do is if they feel like costo, I'll put a 200% tariff on his wines and champains, and he'll join. But he doesn't have to join. If he said that, you're probably giving it to me a little bit differently. But if he actually did say that, but as you know, he's going to be out of office in a few months. And Macron then faced the indignity. Yes, it gets better of having Trump publish their private WhatsApp messages on truth social. I'm like, goodie, this is what I want. This is the content I want. So from President Macron to President Trump, and this is Macron, what he privately sent.

My friend, we are totally in line on Syria. We can do great things on Iran. I do not understand what you were doing on Greenland. Let us try to build great things. One, I can set up a G7 meeting after Davos in Paris on Thursday. I can invite the Ukrainians, the Danish, the Syrians, and the Russians in the margins. to let us have a dinner together in Paris on Thursday before you go back to the US, Emmanuel. Your romance scene of Trump has failed, mate. It does get worse here in the UK though because today, Slippery Stummer has approved this clearly dodgy new Chinese embassy. So does he give a damn about us? Or is he in? Is he being controlled?

by all of those globalists in Davos. I think we know the answer. The Times reported that the legal appeal resulting from this controversial Chinese embassy decision could drag on for years and lead to requests for the government to disclose all meetings and calls between the PM and Xi, the Chinese president,

in the run-up to the decision, it could also extend to correspondence involving other figures like Angela Rainer, David Lamy and Yvette Cooper. Well, bring it on. I say because it is time for some transparency. Let's just pull out and look at the macro-political picture in the United Kingdom because we've got to be honest about what this is really about. It's about Stama trying to stay in power at any cost. He has now lost control of his own party with the

health secretary where Streaty now actively plotting to roll him after the May local elections, a massive political story that the MSM have largely ignored to instead focus on the civil war on the right over Reform UK. But here is a is some decent reporting from Stephen Swinford and Patrick Maguire of the Times, which of course went totally unnoticed by the British Bashing Corporation, Wokai TV and Sly News. They revealed Sir Kare Stama facing calls from cabinet ministers to sack Wes Streeting for disloyalty amid deepening splits in his top team. One cabinet minister said that Stama needs to learn from Kemi Badernock, who this week sacked Robert Jennerick in a preemptive strike. What he's doing is so obvious. He is

repeatedly breaching collective responsibility. He is attacking number 10 and he is undermining all of us. The PLP don't like what he is doing. They would back him as in Stama if he acted. Another cabinet minister said that the behaviour of streeting and his allies is wild. Everyone knows he has MPs from the 2024 intake telling anyone who'll listen that it is time to get rid of care and make Wes PM instead. It's wild behaviour. If he doesn't bring it to a head, he'll have to be brought to heel. A third cabinet minister said, Wes's exactly the same as he was when he was 18. If he doesn't become Labour Prime Minister, he will tell himself his entire life he has been a failure. Everything he's doing now is in pursuit

of that aim. Has he been pushing the boundary of what acceptable? Yes. A spokesman for Streeting hit back saying it's a real shame that cares so-called allies, a briefing against Wes again. So this is war. And let me tell you a change in leader of our disunited kingdom is coming because at the moment the left are uniting around the truly unhinged tit-whisperer Zach Polanski I've just got to show you

how totally bonkers this guy is right he had the loose women host Nadia Sawala and her very kooky hard left husband on his equally mad podcast this week watch do you think's happened to Kistong just like chatty not like

what's happened to him well so I had a debate with Kist in 2015 and he was so deeply authoritarian in his response to it that the audience started to boo and he started to get more and more kind of flustered about it and I saw the Kyrsama that we've got today. Now the flustered that's the perfect word he's flustered. He's flustered but he's dead in his eyes I do apologize to be so quite the man is dead I find him the most sinister example of a politician we've ever had in this country and it's because of his ordinariness it's because of his ineffective

I think that's made so much worse because he was a humanitarian lawyer. For me, it's made it so much worse. So much worse. Because it's like, I can't forgive you at all because you know the score. I was being too diplomatic. You both wound me up now to be more annoyed. We should be incredibly annoyed. The fact that he was a human rights lawyer, but not just a human rights lawyer,

a globally acclaimed one that was really respected, showed that at no moment did he ever believe in what he was doing. Precisely. Exactly. Just like such a soulless, non-committal, complicit, unable, castrated government. I mean, it's actually difficult to disagree. With that being the issue with Stama, but of course, this is why he's going to go,

because the tit whisperer is storming the polls. Which means we're in the truly insane position where the son's political editor, Jack Elsom, now this is significant as his newspaper endorsed Labor at the last election, is reporting that Labour MPs now want Stama to be thrashed in May so that he'll quit. While Labour supporting male columnist Dan Hodges argued that Britain is being governed by a specter. He wrote of Stama he has no vision, he has no strategy, he has no plan, he has no principles, at least none with which to underpin anything remotely resembling a coherent

agenda, he has no political integrity. He has no courage. He has no idea where he wants to lead his nation, nor it seems does he have the slightest clue of what the true character and identity of that nation actually is. And then on the fact that he's now raising the Kama Sutra in Parliament, he added, this is the point we've now reached. The occupant of the greatest office of state reduced to peddling 1970s-style smutty innuendo at the dispatch box. What is the point in Kirstama? Even he doesn't know anymore. But one person who does know is Donald Trump.

And he's finally had enough. Now, the superstar panel. Nate 8 from the state of politics, Lauren the insider and Father Calvin Robinson, all with me now. Father Calvin, finally, Trump is starting to reveal how he really feels about slippery Stama. What do you make of it? I'm not entirely convinced, to be honest. He's being very chummy with Stommer for months now.

He said repeatedly that he likes Kier Stommer. I do appreciate that Trump is very pro-free speech and would have issues with Stommer's anti-free speech stance. But even if Trump is secretly anti-Starma, it wouldn't actually help him to. to be publicly or to become publicly anti-Starma. It helps him to have a weak Europe. He doesn't want a Europe that is too strong. He certainly doesn't want a Britain that is too strong in the sense that Britain used to be

because then we become competitors to America. We're a long way from being competitive with America at the moment. And I think Donald Trump would probably like to see us remain that way. Lauren, the insider, the point is, though, that actually what happened today was devastating for Stama because for such a long time, he's tried to sort of say, well, I might disagree with him, but I'm not going to criticize him. You know, he's taking this ludicrous course and actually Trump just snapped.

It shows you how weak Stama is. It's like the headmaster that no one listens to. He's so desperate to appear liked and to appear important. And we just need Trump to keep going further because what is happening in this country? is petrifying and half the country are asleep and not aware of what's going on. And Keir Stama is an incredibly dangerous man. We don't have free speech. Someone got arrested and I double checked this because I thought it was too crazy to be true.

Someone was arrested for feeding birds recently. This is what we're living with at the moment. So we've got the thought police. Then we've got Stama sending his merry men to stop visas for evidently people that would be travelling to unite the kingdom. So let me just use this as a reminder. 16th of May, we can all go and wave politely at Kyr Stama, put it in your diary, because I believe he's trying to stop anyone that is trying to explain what is going on in this country. He is just stopping them coming in the country.

Yeah, of course. I mean, that was utterly despicable, the fact that Eve of Lardin, now banned. Nate H., great to have you on the show for the first time. What do you make of what's really going on in the US? Because I am harsened by Trump because not only has he seemingly finally worked Starmour out, he's also not totally convinced on Farage either. He's been pretty critical internally of the fact that Nigel is being weak at the moment.

So to me, I'm like, he's sort of got UK politics pretty well figured out. Yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting, isn't it? Because with respect to Chegos and, you know, Diego Garcia, there were multiple instances where he could have sort of vetoed to that, but he didn't. That was interesting. Has he done this in a way to reframe Greenland as like a blatant element of hypocrisy for Starma? You can give away this, but I can't have Greenland.

How does that work? But, I mean, the State Department themselves have, they've been paying attention quite a lot to what's going on in the UK. If anyone hasn't seen it, their tweets, they've been eyeing up quite a lot of the UK's sort of speech police. And that's been fascinating to follow. So they've been aware of it for some time. And I do wonder whether, you know, I mean, I don't think he's officially vetoed the Chegos deal, but, you know, him coming out and doing that, is it just to embarrass him? You know, I mean, Donald Trump has many things.

He's not an idiot. He's so unpredictable. So who knows where it's going to go? And the problem is, Father Calvin, Starma is so weak at the moment because you have Wears Streeting, who, by the way, I think has no hope of winning the leadership contest. He's pretty much a Labour cent. But he seems to be the one who is sharpening his knife for the leadership challenge. I think inevitably it means we'll have Red Rainer or Andy Burnham or Sadiq Khan as prime minister.

But the point is, Starmanow can't just play the international game. He has to be constantly thinking about how things look amongst the Labour base. The Labour base despise Trump. So he's in a politically impossible position too. He is, and I think Nate's onto something there. I think a lot of this issue is that the Greenland situation. Trump has made it very clear that he's serious about this. It's not just him trolling.

He does see Greenland as important. And what do you think of that, Calvin? Well, I have mixed opinions on it, but I think Trump's made it clear that he wants to go down that route. And so when Britain and a few European countries and Canada say, well, we'll send maybe a soldier or two over there, it's clearly not a case of we're going to protect Greenland. or help Greenland protect itself. It's a case of we're making a statement against the United States.

And so Sarkia Stama makes a mistake when he does that because Britain has no interest in this whatsoever. It's nothing to do with us at all. And so all it does is it annoys Trump. And so Trump will in return say, okay, then I'll thwart your Chego's deal then. You want to mess around with my girls? I mess around with yours. It's that tit-for-tat pettiness that will actually affect international relations. And so Sakea Stama would actually be best to not have anything to do with Trump. pro or con. And that would feed both bases and go to the argument you're making that people are annoyed with him either way. Yeah. Yeah. He's damned if he does, damned if he does not, but that's

what he deserves because that's what happens if you're a leader who is totally governed, not by what you believe, but what the globalist shills tell you should be doing. And you can't play that game with someone like Stama. It just doesn't work. Then, of course, you've got the war on the right back here in the United Kingdom. I mean, Lauren, we've had some interesting developments, actually, since outspoken yesterday. So we had this really great young guy on the show. He's called Charlie Simpson. He's 15 years old, right? And he had previously defected from Reform UK because of his support of Tommy Robinson. I think they pretty much booted him out of the party. He now runs the G.B. Politics X handle. And he was the first to break the story of

Andrew Rosendell defecting from Reform UK. And the mainstream media just ignored this story because they thought it was broken by a 15-year-old kid. There was even a community note put on his post on X, which said, this guy's really unreliable, you know, Sky News is reporting it's not true. And so there was totally egg on his face. I thought it was great for the independent media, Lauren. How great as well.

I've seen Charlie at events and he works. incredibly hard. He's very diligent. Yes, he's young. But his ex-account is fantastic. I love it. And this just shows we've got a hungry, hardworking 15-year-old within the free speech arena that is working his butt off, getting exclusives, breaking stories. And then we've got 50, you know, 50-year-olds that have been in this game for decades in the mainstream media. and they will not give him credit. We've got a 15-year-old that is doing a much better job than 95% of the mainstream. I think Harry Cole is actually still in his 30s, not 50 yet, but I hear what you're saying.

Now, what was interesting is after the show, so on the show, Charlie Simpson made some claims that the office manager for Andrew Rosendale had actually threatened to end his career. Now, we've had some pushback on that, and Andrew Rosendell, I'm pleased to say, has actually agreed to be here on outspoken on Thursday. We have Aunt Middleton live tomorrow, then we'll have Andrew Rosendell live Thursday. But in the meantime, I do always like to provide both sides of the story. So I just want to tell you what Starbucks Coleman, he is the incredibly named office manager of Andrew Rosendell had to say about Charlie. Simpson's claims. So he said on Saturday I was informed of a post on X by a Charlie Simpson referencing the immediate defection of Andrew Rosendale. Despite intense media speculation surrounding Andrew, this information was manifestly untrue at the time. I had a one-minute call where I spoke

to Andrew and sought to correct the record. I stated that his post had no basis and that he should either delete the post or state this response. Charlie said his source was 100% genuine and I retorted that as the head of office for the MPN question the no basis line stood and was the official line from our office, the conversation then ended and I had no further communication with Charlie. Any insinuation that his career was somehow threatened or that there was any hostility during the call as a complete fabrication. I am completely bemused by his version of events. To confirm at the time of the call, no conversation regarding defection had taken place between Andrew and Nigel Farage and there was no agreement of any sort in place. So look, both sides

of the story. I always do that. And why I respect Andrew Rosendell is he has agreed to come on, face the music. I've always liked him, actually, as a human being. And it will be excellent to have him live on outspoken on Thursday. So there you go. But what I would say is that Ali Simpson did get the story right. He got the story right. But you look at both of those versions of events and make your mind up. Breaking today, Dying Sly News has just axed its most famous show, The Press Preview, because it's been thrashed in the ratings every single night by G.B. News. It's going to relaunch with a new 10pm till midnight show, which has already been nicknamed The Crap. Sorry, it's official name. I should tell.

say is of course the rap, but you can understand why people have that to say about Sly, which has totally been responsible for a dereliction of duty as the UK's previous number one breaking news network. Now, the host of that show, Anna Botting, who has been there when Sly News used to be good, and I know was offered a job at GBM News when I was there. So for some reason decided to stay with Sly. I don't know why. Clearly is unhappy about this decision to axe both the press preview and news at 10, which she has been hosting now for two decades. She posted, now I know change is hard. Honestly, I find it tricky. Sky News at 10 and the press preview will always have a special place in my heart, but the rap will be fun, chatty with our best films and high

story count. Rehearsals are going well. This is also going as a program name talking about the press preview and it's goodbye to the glass box, but our wonderful guests are still well. us right from the start, all the front pages inside the chats about the papers still centre stage. So here comes the rap, new name, new look, fabulous, new studio, those great stories from Sky News at 10 all wrapped up with tomorrow's papers with brilliant chat from our guest's dynamic offering to jump on breaking news and all from 10pm. She then said that they have even made a snazzy promo and posted alongside some behind the scenes footage watch. There's a fresh look to your news from 10 on Sky News.

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with, to be fair, the day before's newspapers, how did it go? I thought it was brilliant, Anna. You were fantastic. I'm very excited. Steve? So it went so well, Anna. I thought we were live on air. I know. I actually couldn't. I kind of completely forgot. This was a pretend performance. Absolutely. And there's our set. See you all for real soon. Thank you very much. And my sources say that they're going to hold iPads.

They're going to look at stories online and social media. They're going to try and make it all very modern. But the problem is, it's the same woke producers behind it, just more lefty bias wrapped in new graphics and gadgets. And look, the problem here is. And remember, I hosted the show on GB News, which initially took over from Sly. And it's because I knew that what they were doing

was completely outdated, completely backward, and it didn't matter that they had the best studios or the best graphics. None of that was relevant. What was relevant is that they were completely reliant on a mainstream agenda, hard left guests, no plurality of views, no talking about what really mattered, and I think it is going to be too late for Sly to turn that around. And it didn't have to be that way. I mean, honestly, there were some great moments on the soon-to-be departed press preview. Remember when Owen Jones, through this almighty strop, watch. We're going to be homophobic people. There'll be people who hate black people or who hate gay people who hate Jewish people. There are going to be people who are lunatics. They're people who are lunatics. Stop using these words, Julia. Is it possible for me to finish one sentence? If you stop using words like lunatic to talk about homophobic terrorists, there's a fact. I'll choose the words I want to use and you choose the words you want to use. You understand.

Go for it, Junior. Well, thank you. So whoever these people are and whatever their motivations are, the key things, we're always going to have mad and bad people in the world. is I think that we've got a wall or at least a call from just going to move it across a spokesman for Stonewall saying that people would be feeling vulnerable and basically indicating security you're always talking about it interesting sorry nothing carry on go on Owen seriously I've had enough for this time let me go go sorry genuinely we're trying to have a civilised conversation I know you're upset you are upset you are I am I'm quite right everyone's upset and angry about this but storming off a TV set Right, well, I think we'll continue the press preview.

And it is just absolutely incredible because the thought that you'd have Julia Hartley Brewer versus Owen Jones on Sly News now is for the Birds. And that was just a few years ago. So to my superstar panel, Lauren the insider, Nate H and Father Calvin Robinson, Father Calvin, of course, we both used to be Sly News regulars back on the day. I mean, I think you've been banned actually since you actually referred to them as Sly News. live on air. But it was interesting, isn't it? Because we launched what was then, Dan Wooden Tonight, on GB News, specifically to provide an alternative to what Sly was doing. We knew it was

outdated. We knew it was backward. But I don't think changing the name, but keeping everything else the same is really going to work. I think Sly News is dead and buried. Do you? I absolutely agree. and it's funny watching their preview there. Was that Daisy McAndrew? Yes. Yes. But what's so funny, Father Calvin, we would have her on GB News.

This is actually quite indicative, actually, of the mainstream media. On GB News, on my show, she filled the role of a lefty. Yeah, this is what I was going to say. Her positions were lefty, but on Sly, she's considered a right winger. We'd have me as the right winger.

We'd have Daisy McAndrew on the same panel as the left winger. We'd have some decent chats, but there'd be a broad perspective of views, a broad spectrum of views. But of course, on Sly News, she is the mainstream narrative. It's the Daisy McAndrew view. And that's typical of Sly News, isn't it? You're absolutely right. You'd never see Julia Hartley-Bruer versus Owen Jones these days.

First and foremost, Owen Jones is too busy flapping around and storming off. But they would never ever have Julia Hartley-Bruer or anyone like that on. She's too far right wing for them now. Imagine them trying to get me or you on. It's insane how far they've gone to the left. But of course, repainting it and calling it. I mean, the crap is a good one. You always come up with these names, Dad.

But the crap is a good word for it, because that's all it will be. It's disappointing. Sky used to have a difference of opinion. It used to have people like us on, and not just us, but our friends and people who have different opinions that represent the British people, but no longer. Now it's all about the approved narrative. And this is why they're dying. Because now we're too dangerous.

Look, Father Calvin, it was actually Mick Cass of the brilliant Dan, An Unspoken Club on X, who tracked down the other day that footage. And it's only 10 seconds, but it's worth just watching again because it's so beautiful. I should just make the point that it's not Slyneys, it's Scynees. And thank you very much for coming on. Thank you. He was so angry. Highlight of my career, Dan.

The chic of them. It was very good. It was very good. Lauren the insider, this obviously does paint a bigger picture, though, of what is happening in the mainstream media, which is that they're desperate. They know what's happening. They know they have no numbers online. So they're going to keep on trying to find a way to look like they're doing something different. But I think the people now know what they're about.

And sort of like a new coat of paint isn't actually going to fundamentally change how people feel about. News. It's the same propaganda just being packaged up differently. And this is what's so interesting. That Sky News show, it used to be so big. You used to wait, see what the press preview was. You know, back in the day you would go out super early to get the first editions and you'd seen it on Sky and you knew what was coming. There's no relevance in Sly anymore. No one cares about the print press. We have incredible citizen journalists. And it's laughable that we see them think a new set will make a difference. And can we just discuss the fact that they're having rehearsals for a show to talk about the papers?

I mean, we've never had a rehearsal on one of your shows, Dan. This is how out of touch they are. They think that the public want curated gloss. But actually, Patriots want truth. And that's what they deserve. and they're not getting it from any single mainstream propaganda channel. Well, absolutely. I mean, let's compare Lauren the Insider, for example, your channel,

which has stormed to what 70,000 followers from absolutely nowhere, and compare it to the new Sly News, breakfast show. They are pumping everything into this show. They have had so much publicity. But look at that key figure there. 4,700 subscribers. 4,700 subscribers. Let's just look at their most recent videos.

882 views on a video posted eight hours ago. 29 views on one from nine hours ago. 1,900 views from one 10 hours ago. Then yesterday they had 671 views at their Prince Harry's story. 117 views of another one and 142 views. And look, in some ways it's quite cruel doing that Nate H. Because of course, you know, views... No, I don't think it's cruel.

You know, views can vary in all of that type of thing. But I really do feel like this idea that the mainstream media has, Nate, which is that they can just transfer what they've been doing with big money in the mainstream media and move it onto a space like YouTube because they've seen YouTube exploding and that it's going to work. and then everyone's going to embrace it is just fundamentally wrong because people don't want a controlled narrative. Well, it's not just, well, yeah, I mean, it is controlled narrative, right? And it implies, in the controlled narrative is the implicit,

inauthenticity behind it all. They are not authentic. And there's a few key, there was a few key timeline events, news events that I think blew the lid off of, the mainstream media as a whole as a sort of a unified force that all works in tandem with one another. COVID was one of them.

I think Southport was another. And you see the more printing, and this is across print press as well as the mainstream news cycles, all of them doing exactly the same thing at exactly the same time. People don't want that. And politics as well has shifted.

So it's funny you guys saying, well, they wouldn't have Julia Hartley Brewer on there. They wouldn't have Calvin Robinson on there. No, they wouldn't. But politics has shifted even even even even beyond Julia Hartley Brewer. I mean, she's approved effectively in, you know, in a certain way. They wouldn't dream of having Tommy Robinson on there. I mean, he's, to them, he's, you know, he's, he's the demon prince from hell.

But then there's politics moving way beyond even Tommy Robinson now. So when you have the Overton window shifting so, so, so far beyond what they think is even beyond the pale. I mean, there's no hope that they're ever going to come back from this. you know, the public is working up tenfold over. And it's funny, you're saying that their numbers are there. I mean, this is a big, you know, it's a big news machine with a lot of money behind it. And if you're struggling to get 2,000 views, it goes to show you are irrelevant, right? And it's not just, you know, views are a metric of your, you know, your relevancy with an audience.

So if you can't capture an audience and you have the very very, very least thousands of pounds behind you. There's clearly a problem there, isn't there? 100%. No, I couldn't agree more. And you're totally right, because look at the types of debates we're having. I know you have it regularly on your show. I know you do too, Father Calvin with Lawrence Fox and Lauren, you do too. I mean, we are really discussing on a daily basis, the reshaping of the British right. And it's totally at odds, Nate, with what the mainstream media view this fight as. I mean, they view this fight as very much like

the wet Tory party and the even wetter Reform UK. And any of us to the right of that are basically extremists who don't deserve a voice. But I think they've failed to accept that actually things have fundamentally changed. And if you look at Reform UK, for example, that actually isn't a radical party of the right in any way. No, Reform UK, no.

No, goodness me. I've got lots, like I said, about Reform UK. for me, okay. Go on. They're not remotely radical. I mean, they've just morphed into a, well, I mean, it's just the uny party reborn, isn't it? It's so funny. You've got Lee, was it Lee Anderson MP tweeting how the Tories and the conservatives don't, they don't belong. It's like, right, okay, but you are, I mean, you are literally shoving them into your party now. So, smart, smart.

The first thing I'm going to say is I understand this story doesn't matter. I get it right from the The implosion of Brand Beckham in so many ways is completely irrelevant to everything that we deal with day to day. Think of the serious issues facing the disunited kingdom. But we're all talking about it, right? We're all talking about it. Every single person in the disunited kingdom today is much more interested in analyzing Brooklyn Beckham's take on the most famous family in the country outside the actual royals. So I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it whether you like it or not,

because I have a lot of personal experience dealing with the Beckham's. And while the easy narrative here would be to say Brooklyn Beckham, most spoiled Nepo baby in the world, talentless little shill who couldn't even take a photo that wasn't blurred in his book of action. photography like this was the elephant. So hard to photograph but incredible to see. So I'll say from the off, Brooklyn Beckham isn't a talented guy. Of course he's not. But he has also been used and abused by his own family for his entire life, for clicks, for publicity, for clout. And while I understand that some of you will say, well, yeah, he's had a great life as a result of it. Maybe. It's certainly not a

that I think you should bring up your children. So the headlines, of course, have been predictable all across the globe. End it like Beckham. Brooklyn goes nuclear. Vent it like Beckham. And of course, David, the dad, who has been revealed for rejecting his own son, refused to pull out of a big money appearance at the World Economic Forum in Davos today. Because if there's one thing that matters to David and Victoria Beckham,

much more than their family. It's the greenback. Watch. David, do you have a message for Brooklyn this morning? David, you disappointed family business is being aired in public? But what he did was a carefully curated interview on CNBC in the US

where he wasn't asked at all about the biggest pop culture story in the world, but decided to make a dig at Brooklyn clearly very well planned in relation to social media, was a bit like, yeah, Brooklyn's done wrong, but of course we're going to forgive him. Watch.

But I've always spoke about, you know, social media and the power of social media, you know, for the good and for the bad, you know, the bad we've talked about with what kids can access these days. I hate it. It can be dangerous. But what I've found personally, you know, especially with my kids as well,

use it for the right reasons. You know, I've been able to use my platform and my following, you know, for UNICEF. and it's been the biggest tool to make people aware of what's going on around the world for children. And I've tried to do the same. I've tried to do the same with my children to educate them. They make mistakes. Children are allowed to make mistakes.

That's how they learn. So that's what I try to teach my kids. But you have to sometimes let them make those mistakes as well. Problem is Brooklyn isn't a child anymore and he's just completely exposed how you use your own blood relatives to promote your business model. Now, as I say, there are agendas and positions on this, which I completely understand, like Candace Owens talking about how ridiculous Brooklyn is. I get it. I get what she's saying. These are champagne problems. If me and my family are debating on my wedding day about me having to sign away the rights to my name because they're so famous. They're so rich that that's even a thing. I'd say even a discussion at the dinner table. I'm happy. I was happy. This is what I want. So, please, Victoria and David, adopt me.

Katie Hopkins was hilarious as ever. Watch. Drops a new... detonates it into Brand Beckham. He says that his family are ultra controlling and that his mother, posh, rubbed her up against him at his wedding like a cow with an itchy ass. I hear on my private grapevine that posh is very upset. She has been crying and tears have been coming out from behind her eyes. And it's yet another good lesson in why you shouldn't call your children after place names or countries. So there, Batchy at Boghers, Britain.

And of course that has been a long-held Katie Hopkins position on the names, the geographical names. But is there a more serious side to what Brooklyn, Beckham revealed and I will analyze his full post in just one moment, but is there a more serious side given he seems to be suggesting some type of inappropriate sexual behaviour from his own mother? Kelly J Keene has taken some previous pictures of the mother and son and said these are weird poses for a mum and son. So many celebrities use their sons inappropriately. And if you take a look at the way that Nicola Peltz and Brooklyn Beckham were used as part of the Beckham total sort of, how do you put it, a PR spin machine, you can see that there was an desperate desire to paint

them as very happy family when actually, when they moved to the red carpet, you could see how strained things were between the two of them. They didn't want to be there. They didn't want to be used as part of a brand Beckham campaign. Now before I analyse what Brooklyn said, I just want to talk about my own personal experience in regards to this. I was executive editor at the Sun newspaper for a long time. When I was there, we published the Becky Leaks emails, which revealed that David Beckham had made sweary demands to to receive a knighthood, had said that charities should have to pay for his private jets, had attacked Catherine Jenkins for being awarded a prize given she had previously admitted to cocaine use.

Effectively, I knew that this was not a nice man, and he put Victoria through hell, through absolute hell. And what happened is that I started to slowly reveal the issues within their family, much of which has been picked up now by Tom Bauer in his most recent book about the Beckham's. A decision was made by Simon Fuller. Now, you might know his name, one of the richest men in Shobas, he actually created the Spice Girls. And a meeting was held between Simon Fuller, Victoria and David Beckham, and they decided, much to David's at the time, Shagrin, that the only way to hit back at the true revelations about the problems in the marriage, which also included Victoria being jealous about David's friendships with a whole load of very famous women, from Rosie Huntington Whiteley to Rita Orra, was to start pimping out their family on social media, to start sharing every detail of their private family events in order to paint a narrative of a happy family, not a family that had been rocked by adultery.

And so that meant that for Brooklyn Beckham, his life became a bit of a reality show, a bit like the Kardashians. Now, is that fair enough? Maybe I always found it really weird that as a celebrity you would want to put your child through that. I think if someone chooses to be famous, absolutely fine, but we have seen the massive effect that fame at a young age can cause individuals. So that's why I believe what Brooklyn

Beckham said in his posts yesterday were legit. Absolutely, you can say he's an ungrateful little so-and-so. He's a talentless little Nepo baby. Would he ever have this relationship with the billionaire Harris, peltz, if, you know, he was still working at Starbucks? Well, probably not. Probably not. But it doesn't make what he's saying about the Beckham's fundamentally untrue. So let's get to it. He wrote, I have been silent for years and made every effort to keep these matters private. Unfortunately, my parents and their team have continued to go to the press, leaving me with no choice but to speak for myself and tell the truth about only some of the lies that have been printed. I do not want to reconcile with my family. I'm not being controlled. I'm standing up for myself for the first time in my life for my entire life.

My parents have controlled narratives in the press around our family. The performative social media post-family events and inauthentic relationships have been a fixture of the life I was born into. Recently, I have seen with my own eyes the lens that thou go to to place countless lies in the media, mostly at the expense of innocent people to preserve their own façade. But I believe the truth always comes out. And just before we go on, let me tell you, after I left the Sun and Tony Gallagher, the editor of the Sun left, the Beckham's decided to form an alliance with the Sun newspaper,

specifically the editor Victoria Newton and the associate editor Clemmy Moody. Now, that means they turn up at events, they get photos with the Beckham's all the time. I mean, for God's sake, Clemmy Moody even gets free. dresses, free Victoria Beckham dresses to wear at events. And they've buried a lot of negative stories about the Beckham's as a result. A deal was done. Brooklyn goes on. My parents have been trying endlessly to ruin my relationship since before my wedding, and it hasn't stopped. My mum cancelled making Nicola's dress in the 11th hour, despite how excited she was to wear her design, forcing her to urgently find a new dress. Weeks before our big day, my parents repeatedly pressured

an attempt to bribe me and to signing away the rights to my name, which would have affected me, my wife and our future children. They were adamant on me signing before my wedding date, because then the terms of the deal would be initiated. My holdout affected the payday, and they have never treated me the same since. During my wedding planning, my mum went so far as to call me evil, because Nicola and I chose to include my nanny Sandra and Nicola's Noonie at our table because they both didn't have their husbands. Both of our parents had their own tables equally adjacent to ours. The night before our wedding, members of my family told me that Nicola was not blood and not family, since the moment I started standing up for myself with my family,

I've received endless attacks from my parents, both privately and publicly, that were sent to the press on their orders. Even my brothers were sent to attack me on social media before they ultimately blocked me out of nowhere this last summer. And then we get to the where. We're wedding dance. And that's really interesting because this is where there are the dodgy claims. But there is a pushback too, saying that Brooklyn isn't totally telling the truth. But let's just get into what she's claiming. My mum hijacked my first dance with my wife, which had been planned weeks in advance to a romantic love song. In front of our 500 wedding guests, Mark Antony called me to the stage where in the schedule was planned to be my romantic dance with my wife.

But instead my mum was waiting to dance with me instead. Here's the key lie. She danced very inappropriately on me, on me, not with me, on me, on me, in front of everyone. I've never felt more uncomfortable or humiliated in my entire life. We wanted to renew our vows so we could create new memories of our wedding day that brings us joy and happiness, not anxiety, and embarrassment. My wife has been constantly disrespected by my family, no matter how hard we've tried to come together as one. My mum has repeatedly invited women from my past into our lives, in ways that were clearly intended to make us both uncomfortable. Despite this, we still

travelled to London for my dad's birthday and were rejected for a week as we waited in our hotel room trying to plan quality time with him, he refused all of our attempts unless it was at his big birthday party with a hundred guests and cameras at every corner. When he finally agreed to see me, it was under the condition that Nittler killer wasn't invited. It was a slap in the face. Later when my family travelled to Alley, they refused to see me at all. My family values public promotion and endorsements above all else. Brand Beckham comes first. Family love is decided by how much you post on social media or how quickly you drop everything to show up and pose for a family photo op, even if it's at the expense of our professional obligations. We've gone out of our way for years to

show up and support at every fashion show, every party and every press activity to show our perfect family. But the one time my wife asked for my mum's support to save displaced dogs during the LA fires, my mum refused. My narrative that my wife controls me is completely backwards. I've been controlled by my parents for most of my life. I grew up with overwhelming anxiety. For the first time in my life since stepping away from my family, that anxiety has disappeared. I wake up every morning, grateful for the life I chose, and have found peace and relief. My wife and I do not want a life shaped by image, press or manipulation. All we want is peace, privacy and happiness for us and our future family. I wanted you to hear all of that. And I think it was important that you heard all of

that because I've been the first to slam Brooklyn for being unable to make a bacon sandwich on TV, for being so desperate for fame. I've been that guy. But I don't think you can hear that and not believe it, especially given what I've told you about the way that the beckham's do, do deals with the media in order to protect their reputation. To my superstar panel, Nate H. host of the state of politics and Lauren Lund's side of the insider. Now Lauren, you are the insider for years and years and years before you cancelled yourself from the mainstream media. You were on the other side of this. You were one of those PRs working on behalf of major celebrities to control their image. What's your take on this? Because fundamentally,

I think Brooklyn is telling the truth. So I do think he's telling the truth, but do I think Nicole, Nicola, whatever she's called, is a diva, a prima donna, a princess, yes. Do I think that Brooklyn Beckham is lacking talent? Yes. But having said that, just because you're flying first class and your parents are multi, multi-millionaires, that doesn't make up for the fact that ultimately, you are living in a bubble. And everything has to come second to that brand and that brand image.

I've constantly said the world is a stage. And the Beckham's, I've met them many, many times. They've always been nice to me. Would I want to be their daughter? No. Because everything is so incredibly highly curated. You will never see a picture, a pat picture of Victoria Beckham eating. You will never see a pat picture of Victoria Beckham that you don't want to see. Whenever they've got a big launch, you see it ramping up, that family image, be monetised and exploited. And ultimately, what I think is the very interesting part that Brooklyn said is that this is a facade. Now, Dan, we've known this as a facade for a long time. You only have to go back and look at how much have their PRs buried over time. How does the true narrative, you know, sit compared to what is put out?

And they are both incredibly different. Now, I've seen some internet sleuths come out and look into some of these claims. And I think ultimately we are dealing with people, all of which they don't live in the real world. They're not like any of us. You know, these are people that have three wedding dresses. This is ridiculous. 500 people to their wedding. And with the wedding dress claim, I actually did some research in this. So this is how removed from our reality they all are. To make a cature bridal dress, it takes up to 12 months. So with Brooklyn saying, oh, you know, Nicola, whatever was left at the last minute, you know, this is not the same problems that we all have. But ultimately what Brooklyn is faced with is having to always put a smile on and having to put on a show and knowing that your real world problems or your family issues must be suppressed at all costs. And I think that is incredibly damaging for anyone's mental health.

And we might look at the Beckham's and think we want their money or we want their picture perfect life. Their life is not picture perfect. That that is a fact. And I think this is an incredibly damaging, but also interesting insight into what goes on behind the veil of celebrity, because all is never as it seems. No, indeed, Nicola Pouts, it is, Nicola Pouts. Nate H., what do you think about this and how should the Beckham's deal with it? I was quite amused by Tim Shipman of The Spectator posting last night. The Beckham should now put out a statement saying, recollections may vary.

I thought that was gliver. Yeah, that is funny. I mean, one thing that just sticks out in my head is, you know, money doesn't buy morals at the end of the day, does it? You know, whether this is right, whether any either recollection, either story is, you know, the truth or not, it doesn't really matter. All it is is that one side, you know, there's always,

there's three sides to the story isn't there. There's your side, my side, and then there's the truth that sits somewhere in the middle. But either way, it still signifies that, you know, money doesn't buy morals, which, I mean, that's not really a massive surprise either. But, you know, I guess it comes with the territory of being super rich and famous. I wouldn't want that for my life, though. Like, how absurd is that? No, and I don't.

And I can't imagine Nelson Peltz is massively happy either. You've got to remember that there's the other, you know, mega, mega, mega, mega, mega, money man in this mix. Nelson Peltz, he's not going to be happy with, you know, this whole sort of situation being thrown at in the press. That's a man who's gone to war with Disney. And now he's having this probably way beneath him drama being thrown out in the press. I don't think he's going to be best impressed with this. No, definitely not. And I think what was so telling is that rather than actually take in this statement, Lauren, and think, well, is there a way where we can save our family? Is there

anything that Brooklyn said that is maybe relevant? What did the beckham's do last night? They immediately rushed to the two journalists and the two newspapers that Brooklyn is talking about, having caused so much damage. So the first is this woman, if you look at her on screen, she's called Katie Hind. And she has been receiving lots of invitations alongside the editor of the Daily Mail, Ted Verity, to Beckham events. although I know she was very unhappy because she was banned from one because Jerry Horner, previously known as Ginger Spice, was going to be there. And Katie Hind had written lots of horrible stories about her. And Jerry looked at the list and said, sorry, Victoria, I'm not going to show up if Katie

Hind is here. So Katie Hein was invited. But anyway, what I'm saying is that these are the people who the leaks are going to. So she immediately said last night, why Brooklyn Beckham has chosen now to throw his mom and dad's love back in their faces and why I don't believe these are his own words. So immediately casting doubt on the story. And then the second is a woman called Clemmy Moody. And I've got to show you Clemmy because she's been to all of the events now. She's the one who is now even lent Victoria Beckham clothing. So there she is with David Beckham at one of the events. And she wrote

last night that the Beckham's have been flawed by Brooklyn's attack, but there's a devastating move estranged son May still May. Victoria, who gave me her last interview just two months ago, will be deeply hurt by Brooklyn's grenade. And there you can see, not only has

she been photographed recently, with Victoria Beckham, she also, and this is where I find it really creepy and weird, even was granted joint access to David Beckham and the other son, who is part of the PR, Romeo.

But the New York Post is reporting that actually every word of Brooklyn Beckham's bombshell claim about his parents is true, and that it's now too late for the famous couple to make amends with their son. So this is a source familiar with the situation telling page 6, and by the way, page 6, and by the way, was behind the initial reporting that led to the statement. As much as this sounds crazy and unhinged, everything Brooklyn said in his statement is true. So, I mean, it doesn't feel like they've learned any lessons, Lauren.

Because here's Brooklyn Beckham saying, look, I hate the fact that you were leaking these stories to the newspapers. And then they immediately go and leap more stories to the newspapers. Well, first up, I mean, Clemmy Moody didn't get an interview. with Victoria Beckham. She got a load of approved quotes. And, you know, Clemmy Moody would like to think that's an interview, but there is no way she had free reign to ask what she wants. So ultimately, you have to disregard what she's doing with Victoria Beckham, because that's propaganda. These journalists are so desperate for a Victoria Beckham bag or to be loaned address that they

literally will bend on their knees and like good puppy dogs and do whatever David and Victoria say. And it's really important to state that Brooklyn Beckham could do anything. He's never going to stand a chance when he's faced against the Beckham machine. The Beckham machine, you know, will ensure the mainstream media always side with David and Victoria because David and Victoria self for them. And this is where it all becomes very, very murky. I said the minute that Brooklyn started to move away from David and Victoria and spend more time with his fiance and then wife, this is not going to work out well because she is not going to fall in line with their well-oiled machine, which, you know, runs like clockwork until now. It's all exploded once again at the

High Court as Prince Harry's action against the Daily Mail becomes ever more explosive and the Lucianil Duke makes it clear that he doesn't just want to bring down the Daily Mail. He wants to bring down the most famous females on Fleet Street who he believes have been ruining his life for the past three decades. Those women in question, Victoria Newton, editor of the Sun, newspaper, who has become a very close ally of Prince William, who she meets regularly, and was even pictured of late with King Charles. Rebecca English, who is the royal editor of the Daily Mail to this day, co-host of the Palace Confidential Show that broadcasts on YouTube, and Katie Nichols, a thorn on the side of Prince Harry for years, because she's revealed many true stories about him,

now present state occasions on the British Royal Family for the BBC and is a regular on Pears Morgan uncensored. Of course, there are two sides to both of these stories, and the Daily Mail has hit back today. We're going to be getting into it all with Lauren, the Insider, and Nate H, host of the State of Politics on YouTube. But first, let me show you Harry deciding to ignore questions about whether he just hates free speech. on the way into court this morning.

It's free speech alongside press accountability. Morning, Harry. Harry, how important it's free speech alongside press accountability? Now, today's court case action was truncated because the Daily Mail tried a very different strategy to that of David Sherbourne, Harry's slippery, greasy lawyer, who he was introduced to by Elton John,

who is, of course, also one of the claimants in this case alongside his husband, David Furnish, the actress Sadie Frost, Elizabeth Hurley, and Baroness Doreen Lawrence. But because the evidence presented in the opening statement was so truncated, Harry's going to be on the stand tomorrow. It is D-Day for Harry tomorrow. But his lawyer did set out. what they would argue was clear evidence of a legal misconduct by the Daily Mail newspaper in quite some detail. It's awkward for Harry. It also includes intimate details of his former relationship with

Chelsea Davy, the woman who he claims at one point was the real love of his life. So let's get into it. This is reporting from Imogen James inside the High Court, who revealed that Harry's argument contains 14 articles that he says were unlawfully gathered about his private life. The first in question from 2001, this is over Prince Harry being chosen as the godfather to Tettiggy Legg Burke's child. The story written by Katie Nicol, who claims she might have heard it from a party planner and stood it up with a socialite, but David Sherbourne says neither of them are plausible as sources. No evidence there as far as I could tell. What's much, much more difficult is when it comes to Prince Harry's travel plans with Chelsea Davy. And the first

is in reference to a 2004 incident. What we see are their travel plans together, including the fact that Prince Harry brought her out on a private hunting expedition to a lodge in Argentina. there are a number of journalists involved in this article feeding different information the lawyer says. An email from Heather Briley to Caroline Graham at the Daily Mail. Now remember Caroline Graham is the woman who Harry and Megan hates because she's been holed up in hospital with Megan Markle's father, Thomas Markle, who just lost his leg in a Filipino hospital. And the email said, have spoken to contact at British Airways here half an hour ago

and offered, and then there's two dollar signs in return for name. He's gone off to investigate. Harry is paranoid about her being outed another email, says that is shown to the court. It's from Caroline Graham and sent to Dave Dillon. Now, David Dillon is now the editor of the Mail on Sunday newspaper. David Sherbourne says, We say these emails clearly refer to the payment of information

unlawfully obtained through British Airways, through payments or blagging. Then Harry's witness statement admitted that all of this has caused distress, paranoia and other feelings it generates. He also claims that the travel stories were a security risk to him. And this one involving Rebecca English is particularly difficult. Yesterday, Sherburn accused her of obtaining the exact plane seats, flight times and travel plans of Prince Harry's then-girlfriend Chelsea Davy in 2007.

Prince Harry's witness statement says this was not only intrusive information, but it also carried security risks. Sherbourne says the evidence shows English, this is Rebecca English, paid £200 for this information to private investigator Mike Burr, including Davy's seat number. English says she doesn't remember this email. It was entirely frustrating that this information came out while Prince Harry was trying to maintain a private relationship the Duke says in his witness statement. Harry says it's deeply disturbing seeing this information in the article and that neither he nor Davy were sharing this information with others. it demonstrates irresistibly that Rebecca English used unlawful information gathering, Sherbourne says. So there does seem to be evidence there. Then the final example that Sherbourne used in his opening arguments today was an article published in 2010 and written by Katie Nicol.

He says it contains specific and intimate details of his private life and relationship with Chelsea Davy. One line says Harry was a regular fixture at Davy's house. The article also includes their plans as a couple and the Duke's preferences of where he likes to spend the night. Prince Harry says this is highly sensitive information in his witness statement. Sherbourne says Prince Harry's evidence is absolutely firm that it couldn't have come from another person other than Davy or him, and that neither of them shared this. Now, the problem for Harry here, though, is that it's also been revealed that Harry did have a personal relationship with Katie Nicol. that they did meet at the Kensington Roof Gardens

and that he did invite her to come and party with Harry and her friends. However, Sherbourne said this story could not have conceivably come from legitimate sources. Nichols' evidence is from her notebooks, which shows she obtained these details from Garth Gibbs. He was living alone on the Isle of Wight and semi-retirement in his last year alive during this time. Sherbourne says that it's utterly implausible that he could have provided this information to Nicola. Instead, they allege she used unlawful information gathering techniques. He says her credibility becomes critical here. Another story in December 2007 covered Harry's plan to take Chelsea Davy on a make-or-break holiday.

Cherbourne says there was striking evidence that this also came from the private investigator called Mike Burr. In an email to a male, staff of Burr-right had to do several searches. Chelsea Davy was on standby and then at the last. minute paid cash for a ticket at the airport. Maybe this was their way to try to avoid detection, the email said. The investigators working for the mail went to such lengths that despite everything the Duke of Sussex and Chelsea Davy did to maintain their privacy, it was entirely frustrated. He said the inference, the information was unlawfully obtained, was obvious. So to Nate H. and Lauren, the insider now. Lauren, we need to see evidence. And of course, I am going to present.

in just one moment exactly how the Daily Mail fought back against this. But my reading of what we have seen so far in court is that the real issues are for Caroline Graham and for Rebecca English, who still maintain these senior positions at the mail because there is actually email evidence that doesn't appear to back up what they are saying. Now, Katie Nichol, I think, is a totally different case.

I do know Katie Nichol personally, by the way, but this isn't why I'm saying it. I think it's a totally different case because there's no email evidence to prove that she did anything unlawful and she did have incredibly close relationships with Prince Harry, including the fact that he invited her to secretly party with him and his mate.

So I think there's two things here. If we look at historic industry practices, phone hacking and obtaining private information was widespread. Rupert Murdoch has paid. $1.2 billion in settlements and legal fees. So to me, having worked in the industry, you know, and I'll tread carefully because this is an ongoing legal case, I find it, I would struggle to think it was only going on at Rupert Murdoch's papers, for example. And then we have to think, well, if we're looking at things happening that potentially

shouldn't have been happening, that poses the question, technically, we're looking at organised crime. So people may not leave a paper trail. Obviously, this is an ongoing trial and the Daily Mail do deny all of these allegations. The second point is that this, for me, I get so cross about Prince Harry, because people have had their lives destroyed by phone hacking. I know people, and it truly has ripped their lives apart. But what we see with Prince Harry yet again is half in, half out. We see the greed. You know, he could have had a really strong case

and he could have not engaged with the mainstream media. You know, the people that he's blaming for all of this. And if the Daily Mail are at fault, then absolutely that is horrific. But Prince Harry and Meghan Markle leak stories to the same media outlets. They are suing. if you look at the track record. So which one is it, Harry? Have they destroyed your life?

Have they made you paranoid or not? Because I don't know anyone of sane mind that would continue to leak stories or have their representatives leak stories, that they're then suing in court. And I think it's very, very unfortunate for Prince Harry that he has partied with Katie Nicol because this blurs the lines hugely.

And I don't think, you know, looking at everything today, I don't believe it's shaping up very well for Prince Harry. Interesting. I mean, Nate H., what I find fascinating is that Harry admits that he does have a huge amount of paranoia. There might be good reason for that in some way, but he hasn't helped himself. You know, his extensive, detailed illegal drug use has not helped that situation, for example. And I think what it means is that, Nate, he sees criminality everywhere. He thinks everything is a stitch up. He thinks everyone is out to get him. That simply isn't the case. I don't believe all of these stories came from illegally obtained means. I mean, I've spoken in the past, and I've been very transparent about it this week, about how he accused me of unlawful reporting. And my revelation of Meg's at the decision for him to exit the United Kingdom with Megan when actually my story had been.

completely legally obtained in part by speaking to his own staff members. So he actually had to withdraw the legal action against me. In saying that night, and I know you've been across big celebrity court cases in the past, there does look to be some, I would argue, difficult evidence here for the mail. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess so. There is. This whole thing just makes me think back to the South Park riff on Harry and Megan, where they're like, leave us alone.

but don't want attention and then they just just keep yammering on to everyone i don't know i just think it's one of those things i understand why people sort of care but i also don't understand why people care that much about this entire scenario if people didn't give them any sort of air time i don't think i mean no no one would be doing anything illegal right at the end of the day i mean yeah they left the uk but then also they're creating netflix shows and to know this absolute other drivel and it's just it's a clown show the whole thing's a clown show um and they're not to me i i've never understood why people care that much for these at least these royals anyway um they're not remotely regal in any way shape or form uh and everything that they

sort of how they how they handle themselves and just all of their business dealings it's just to me it's just a clown show. But yeah, I mean, look, if people are doing things illegal, yeah, it's not great, obviously. Of course not great. But they have a long history of just leaking stuff because, again, they want the attention. Or it's also crying that they're getting attention. So you're damned if you do, damned if you don't with these clowns. Totally.

And look, unfortunately, rightly or wrongly, they are now part of the political discourse too. They do tend to be backed by the hard left in this country. and it was interesting for me to see James O'Brien jump on their bandwagon today. Sorry, I know this will be painful. I know this will be painful, but it's to just make a point of how they are trying to position the discourse in regards to this court case, watch.

Entire lives over the course of the last decade or so can be viewed as an exercise in intimidation by the UK media. Think of all the people you know who've got strong opinions about Prince Harry. a military hero, or indeed about his wife, a successful actress. Think of all the people you know in your life who've got strong opinions about them. Oh, no, I don't like that. Oh, I don't trust her.

Where do you think those opinions came from? You can malign and demonise innocent people so completely and comprehensively that you've probably got family members who think that they have a bead upon these two characters, while Paul Dacre's personal history will be completely new to them. They'll know nothing about the man responsible for newspaper headlines that wouldn't have been out of place in 1930s Germany. And yet Harry and his wife have been turned into, or the massive attempt to turn them into, pariahs, public enemies.

That's how it works. It's also, of course, how the mafia works. Okay. We're the mafia. We're the mafia. But look, the mail did fight back in a truncated opening argument, which is going to see Harry take the stand tomorrow. Now, I do wonder if they did this to almost put him off because he thought he was going to get a day's grace tomorrow and start his evidence on Thursday. It's now going to happen tomorrow. But first we get to David Sherbourne, directly questioning the male and say none of the smoke and mirrors or the carefully orchestrated propaganda in a tax. on witnesses can save associated at this time. They have to live by their all-or-nothing defence. He says the damages must be significant,

but it is not the claim for damages which brings these claimants here. It's uncovering the truth. So, in other words, they're not doing any of this for money. Now, the male and their KC. Anthony White then took the stand after lunch, or just before lunch, sorry, and said that actually all of the male's stories, came from a compelling pattern of legitimate sourcing,

which means it was just journalists doing their job, like Katie Nicol, going out to meet people. White says the allegations are made against the company, but in reality are made against the individual journalists. He called the allegations very serious. All of the journalists would have to be lying to the court about the articles. This has an inherent probability, White argues. His next point, and this is from Imaging James, by the way, in court, is that most of the articles were written 15 to 20 years ago.

It's a striking feature of the mail's defence that has been able to obtain evidence from almost all of the journalists that wrote the articles in question. Though it's inevitable, given the length of time that some circumstances have changed like some have died, some of retired others have moved to new companies. But he says it makes it more striking that they have produced so much evidence. He also said the case is clutching at straws, making the point that the claimants relying on evidence of a payment to a private investigator before or after a mail article was published. But he argues David Sherbourne's case often does not give details about what these investigators were doing for this money. So, for example, could some of their behaviour have been totally legal? Lauren, what did you make of the mail's defence, which is basically all of this was legitimate reporting. Oh, and by the way, our journalists are going to take the stand.

So this is hard because I don't want to do anything that could impact the ongoing trial. But if we look at the industry standards and practice or lack of standards back in the day, everything I'm hearing, you know, I was hearing it from numerous papers. It's not just one paper. This was across the board. This was common practice. It was an open secret. So whilst I don't know whether it was happening at the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday, it was very common to not put, for journalists to not write down what a payment was for and to avoid a paper trail. Obviously, this is a paper. is in the hands of the court now. So we will see what the outcome is. But each side, it is, you know, the Daily Mail's job to make David Sherbourne seem that he's incapable and that the facts are not there. And likewise, it's Harry's side's job to nail the mail for everything. So I think we just have to keep looking at the facts. But I would. have concerns if I were the male. I don't think Prince Harry has got them nailed down as he thinks

he does. But this is a case that has come £38 million so far. Someone is going to be left with a huge bill and we've got weeks and weeks left of this. Now, one thing I did want to add, Dan, is the sickening propaganda drivel that LBC was saying. It's important that you remember that the chairman of Invictus Games or the foundation is a man called Charles Allen. He's also the chairman of global radio. So this explains why 52.7 million people, I believe it is a week. That's their listenership. That's why they are being given this absolute drivel. When you go, am I going mad? Megan Markle was never a great actress. Prince Harry, you know, yes, he's been in the military, but wouldn't really describe him as a war hero as such.

I think there are many veterans that we should be speaking of above Harry. So here we have another great example of why it's all one big club. And thank goodness we're all critical thinkers and we're not in it. And what has been very interesting to see, Nate, is that the royal family have decided this week to keep calm and carry on, but keep calm and carry on outside of London, basically as far away as possible from the action in the court case.

William and Catherine making a very popular appearance in Scotland today. Is that a sensible strategy, Nate, do you think from a PR perspective to just say, this is what we do? Going to keep smiling. Going to keep showing that actually you can do royal activities without the drama. like, is that the best thing for them to do to counteract Harry in court?

Well, I mean, I guess so to a degree. I mean, they've managed to keep quiet about, what was it, Andrew and his Epstein affairs and all of the nonsense and drama that's been happening over there. So it's one of those things, isn't it? Just play complete ignorance to everything. You know, shove your fingers in your ears and go, la, la, la, not listening. I mean, sure, I guess maybe a tactic, especially when you've got LBC.

I mean, James O'Brien, What did you make of that? How did you go from Harry and Megan to talking about in 1930s, Germany on headlines? And the mafia, and the mafia. He's nuts. He's not. He's living in La La Land, honestly.

He is. No, he really is. And that is why we need shows like yours, Nate. I'm absolutely loving the state of politics, which you host alongside Bodead, who is also a presenter on The Lotus Eaters Sam was here last week. I'm really loving it. So congratulations on your launch.

I really recommend everyone. Check out the state of politics because it's certainly the type of coverage you do not get from the mainstream media. And of course, Lauren Lanfaro, host of Lauren the insider. Thank you so much for being here too. Thank you too for Father Calvin Robinson, who was here earlier in the show.

Should say, by the way, a special live edition of Outspoken Tomorrow, Harry in the Dock. Wednesday, 7pm UK time, 2pm Eastern in the US, 11 a.m. Pacific, we will be live. And on our main show, tomorrow at 5pm UK time, Aunt Middleton, is here for his first interview since Reform UK chose Laila Cunningham, the Muslim woman, to be their candidate for the mayor of London. Lots of feedback from you today. I like this from Mo Bob, who says, I'm beginning. need to think Kirstarmonies of Mental Health Assessment. Corin Bell says, well, said Trump, giving away the Chegos Islands when it is going to cost

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And the votes are in, 23% of you going for Craig Guilford, the runner-up, with 35% of the vote, Lisa Nandy. But today's, uni and jackass, with 42% of your vote appropriate, given what we've just been talking about, Prince Harry. And today's Greatest Britain, nominated by Scott Fly 23. is Dolly Parton for celebrating turning 80 years old. Honestly, I love Dolly Parton. I absolutely love her. I think she's a living legend, actually,

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