Dan Wootton Outspoken - Emily Maitlis humiliated in Nigel Farage iv + Lady Victoria Hervey on Harry & Meghan flop | OUTSPOKEN EP 10

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show with Lady Victoria Hervey, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium As the Joe Biden crisis grows, sneering News Agent host Emily Maitlis decided to try and humiliate Republicans during her cringeworthy visit to the RNC. But she ended up being shamed in car crash interviews with Nigel Farage and Kari Lake. Dan Wootton analyses. Plus: Special guest Susan Hall, who ran for the Conservative party against Sadiq Khan for the London mayoralty, on the crisis facing the UK capital. The brilliant conservative commentator and former UKIP MEEP Patrick O’Flynn on Labour’s growing crisis over stopping the boats. AND the peerless Lady Victoria Hervey analyses Harry and Meghan’s flop era. To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show with more royal exclusives from Lady Victoria, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day:    / @danwoottonoutspoken   ---------- Today’s Sponsor: VERSO - https://buy.ver.so/outspoken - Use code OUTSPOKEN to save 15% on your first order. ---------- #NigelFarage #reformuk #UKelection #news #royal #donaldtrumpnews #donaldtrump #gbnews #danwootton #jdvance #joebiden #princeharry #meghanmarkle #emilymaitlis #karilake #liztruss To make sure you never miss a single Dan Wootton Outspoken video, click here to subscribe: Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live/premium ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?... Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook:   / danwootton   Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 10. And Nigel Farage and Carrie Lake just owned that snaring MSM snob, Emily Maitlis, who's looking for gotcha moments at the RNC. I have friends, and when they're having a tough time, it's right to go and support them. And is that the sense you've got, that he's having a tough time right now? He nearly died. Do you think he's having a tough time right now?

He nearly died. This is the last question. They need to lie to intimidate. I'm so sorry for you. I'm sorry that you bought into the propaganda. I'm guessing if you don't win in November, you won't concede. That's the rule that you're playing by now, is it? You are.

I actually think you need your head examined. I have friends. Carrie Lake, I've thought that for a very long time, actually. Now, look, you'd think the news agents might be more interested in the genuine scandal that a dementia plagued and now COVID infected current leader of the free world is not mentally fit enough to have his finger shaking above those nuclear codes. But no, so I'm going to have a special digest on the Emily Maitlis humiliation tour of America in just one moment. Also coming up today, the brilliant commentator and former UKIP MEP Patrick O'Flynn on Labour's growing crisis over stopping

the boats and whether Reform UK is about to kill off the Conservative Party for good. Then the uncancelled interview with my special guest Susan Hall, who ran for the Conservative Party against Sadiq Khan for the London mayoralty on the crisis facing the UK capital. Now, given the scenes we've seen even these past 24 hours, including this at Marble Arch in the centre of London, is J.D. Vance right to talk about an Islamist takeover? And the peerless Lady Victoria Harvey, my royal mastermind, analyses Harry and Meghan's flop era. Is there any way for a comeback now? Plus, Lady Victoria will be sticking around to answer your questions

in our uncancelled after show where we come off big tech and truly unleash. So remember to sign up right now. www.outspoken.live is the website. If you click the sign up button, you get 30 minutes of extra content completely uncensored every single day for one low price If you click the sign up button you get 30 minutes of extra content completely uncensored every single day for one low price of just £5 a month. That's it. So hit subscribe right now too if you're watching on YouTube and Rumble because we're here every weekday. Let's go. Emily Maitlis represents everything. That is wrong with the out-of-touch media elite in the UK that

now has absolutely no idea of the real issues facing ordinary folk terrified with the increasing downfall of Great Britain and the Western world. But in a snaring MSM tour of humiliation at the Republican National Convention, Maitlis has shown herself up, and I have to say it's beautiful to watch. The ex-BBC leftist has been exposed as a chronically snaring snob with no humanity for anyone who doesn't share her liberal left-wing view of the world. While Emily believes her gotcha interviews during the Milwaukee event in the wake of Trump's shooting have made her an MSM pin-up, ordinary folk have quite rightly recoiled in horror at her complete lack of any soul. None more so than when she was completely

owned by Nigel Farage when trying to somehow show him up for spending three days at the RNC to support his close friend Donald Trump after the appalling assassination attempt on his life on Saturday night. But now you are the new Clacton MP, but are here in the US just, what, two weeks after getting elected? Because this feels more exciting? No, I'm just here for a couple of days. That's it. That's it. I'll be back at the weekend. And, no, I mean, look, what happened on Saturday was, could have been the most disastrous event. But why did he need you?

Well, that's a matter for, you know, his team to to answer not me. No I mean listen it was right that I came. Right for who? It was the right thing to do. I have friends I don't know whether you do or not maybe you don't but I have friends and when they're when they're in having a tough time it's right to go and support them. And is that the sense you've got that he's having a tough time right now? He nearly died. Do you think he's having a tough time right now? He nearly died. And do you think that's changed him? Do you think, I mean, you must have spoken to him if you're a good friend.

I think that he's obviously very thoughtful about what happened. A dramatic failure of secret, about what happened a dramatic failure of secret I mean really dramatic failure of Secret Service who normally are so efficient and so good at what they do and so I'm here to show support for him just tell us one thing have you seen Liz Truss here no are you looking for her no would you like to see her here I would see anybody that's friendly I'm happy very happy to meet. I believe she's...

I think Boris is here somewhere as well, which is very surprising. But you haven't made contact with either of them? No. That interview is astonishing on so many levels. Ms Maitlis had to ask twice, do you think he's having a tough time? She was devoid of any emotion

about the fact Trump nearly died. And that's because her hatred of the man is just so intense. And I have to talk for one second, by the way, about Emily's rank bullying of Liz Truss, which is now bordering on obsessive. Watch this. Any luck finding Liz? It's quite confusing because she posted a picture of herself yesterday wearing a long flowing red dress. And dare I say that everyone at the Republican Party who is female is wearing a lot of red and long flowing. For once in her life, she's fitting in. I've accosted everyone I can find and they look horrified when I see when I ask them if they're Liz Truss.

Oh, ho, ho, ho. Let's chuckle along to that bullying. The left are just downright nasty, aren't they? If you're not part of their gang, you are a literal weirdo and misfit. Emily actually said that too, by the way. I genuinely think the people who are spouting this garbage are starting to believe what they're saying and i should just say before we go i mentioned the weirdos and the misfits i

mean i think she puts russell brand in that category too now he used to be one of her pinups actually when he identified as where as left wing but of course now ms mateless has turned and she also seems to as a journalist have absolutely no concept of the idea of innocent until proven guilty. But the other person that I bumped into was Russell Brand, who was on a talk show called Patriot. And he had with him a very young female assistant who was trying to keep us as far away from him as she could. And I was listening quite intensely to the interview and the last question that the interviewer asked was, so Russell there are a lot of young men listening to you here and I thought oh he's going to go for it here's the bullseye. Then he said, tell us about fatherhood. It was unbelievable to see how much

latitude and how much encouragement somebody who has been accused of multiple sexual allegations will get in a place. So thank God for Carrie Lake, the MAGA Republican who called out her bullshit to her face in a sensational takedown. Do you accept the part you played in inflaming the political rhetoric in this country? You are just part of the fake news and you're lying. You don't know a damn thing about Arizona. You don't know one thing about our election and you sit there with a smirk on your face. You're sitting over in England, in the UK, in a country that's being destroyed. In a country that's being destroyed. I guess I'm just asking what it says about the Republican Party.

They need to lie to intimidate, to threaten, because you don't believe you can win at the ballot box. Why would you need to do that? You are just a sad case of a human being and I'm so sorry for you. I'm sorry that you bought into the propaganda. I hope that you'll look in the mirror and see that you've been following propaganda and you don't understand what's happening. So I'm guessing if you don't win in November, you won't concede.

That's the rule that you're playing by now, is it? You are, I actually think you need your head examined. Can you answer that? I think you need your head examined. Now, rather than try to make conservatives look foolish at any cost, you'd think Emily would be much more interested in the actual scandal that is engulfing a dementia-plagued president. That is the real story of the RNC. Even Trump-hating CNN has had to admit it. A bullet couldn't stop Trump. A virus just

stopped Biden. You've got the nominees of this party getting their butts kissed. Biden's getting his butt kicked by his own party. The Democrats are coming apart. The Republicans are coming together. And that is the real story. Soaitlis at the RNC. To respond to that and much more, the former UKIP MEP and brilliant political commentator Patrick O'Flynn is today's outsider. And I have to tell you, Patrick O'Flynn's brilliant sub stack is called State of the Nation. It is an absolute must read. I get it into my inbox every time Patrick posts and you can find it via my sub stack because he is one of my recommendations. Patrick, it is great to have you on Outspoken. What did you make of that snaring Emily Maitlis tour of the RNC? Well, I think Emily Maitlis is one of the people who left the BBC.

It's quite a substantial number now of very senior journalists who leave. And you're meant to have regarded them as unbiased when they were on the BBC. But but you kind of get a little inkling or maybe more than an inkling of where their allegiances lie. And in every single case, including with her sidekicks, John Sopel and Lewis Goodall, not being in the BBC anymore means that they come out and they spout the most amazing left wing trash, confirming what you already thought, that presumably still the BBC's own newsroom is full of people with these underlying groupthink beliefs. But, you know, Emily is off the leash now. And, yeah, I did find her attitude astonishing. I noticed, for instance, that her channel captured Nigel Farage as a Clacton MP. And I just put it to you that Nigel's the leader of the party that got the third most support at the general election, albeit not proportionally represented, still got a group of MPs. and he's a party leader abroad. Do you

think they would have captioned Ed Davey of the Liberal Democrats on a trip abroad as MP for Kingston and Surbiton? I don't think so. So, you know, they are fully part of the group being LibLeft bias. And I also thought, speaking to that republican lady at the end when emily is focused on alleging to them you don't think you can win this election well i think she's she's totally off been there i was looking at some bookies odds that lord ashcroft put up and uh trump is now really heavily odds on favorites be the next president. And even more interesting, which is the story you alluded to in your talk there, the bookies now have Kamala Harris as second favourite, way ahead of Joe Biden, who's 10 to 1 against. So the betting markets have basically called time on Joe Biden. They're saying there's only a 1 in 10 chance of him being the next president,

i.e. they don't expect him to contest the election at all and i would suggest to emily if she had an objective newshound knows for the story that is obviously the story of the american presidential race right now totally instead she wants to bully liz truss and it is absolutely fascinating by the way patrick the developments that are unfolding with joe b the hour, because it feels like almost every senior Democrat now, including the former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is saying, Sleepy Joe, you just can't win this. And do you think he really has COVID or is this an opportunity to maybe usher him off the stage? I mean, he could barely actually even get on the plane, Air Force One taking him back to

Washington, D.C. Well, I mean, I presume he does have COVID. But the bigger story is for probably at least two years, at least half of his presidency, he's clearly been exhibiting signs of a bit rude to say, but senile dementia. broadcast media and their sort of big newspapers have just looked the other way and have poo-pooed people on the conservative wing who said, look, we've got a president who's not cognitively all there. But then the debate against Trump, the TV debate happened and it became undeniable. And now they've sort of turned on a sixpence really late in the day when it's undeniable. And now they've sort of turned on a sixpence really late in the day when it's undeniable and have affected to notice it. And they're looking almost as foolish as Joe Biden. And the Democrats are in a really awful pickle because I think most people think even if Biden gets dumped, the hints are that he thinks that Harris should step in automatically. Well, how can they pass her over?

How can they pass her over? Because remember, this is the party that is all about wokery, Patrick. They have become completely defined by identity politics. She was a DEI hire as VP. Biden admitted he only chose her because she was a black woman. So if they then say well actually you are okay to be the vp but we're not going to put you at the head of the ticket they're screwed yeah they can't do that and i think most fair judges again would see her as being very much in the

hillary clinton mold in that she's very contemptuous and fails to hide it about, you know, the flyover states, the good old boys, what the Americans call the middle class, we would call the working class vote, the traditional America. She's going to take a dive with them. And, you know, any rational judge would say that Donald Trump will wipe the floor with her as well as with Biden. So it looks like the Democrats, one way or another, will be putting a loser up against Donald Trump, just as he has gained in authority and seems, you know, literally to be invincible. He was literally invincible, wasn't he? Given just one millimetre the other way and we would be talking about a very different time in American political history.

But look, I want to move to British political history, Patrick, because you have been in the past a close ally of Nigel Farage. And since then, you've been a chronicler of his extraordinary career. Was the explosion of Reform UK something that you predicted? And do you agree with me that there is a realistic chance that we could have Prime Minister Nigel Farage by 2029? I know you've been doing a deep dive into the numbers that we got a couple of weeks ago in the election. Yeah, I mean, I've been looking very seat by seat into who are the Conservative parliamentary party now. Do they lean sort of so-called one nation, in reality, no nation? Or are they more staunch Conservatives? And I'll be writing that up soon.

On the issue of Nigel, I just think I was quite crushed when he initially announced he couldn't stand, he wasn't going to stand and it wasn't the right time because I thought that was the wrong decision. But in fact, it worked out beautifully for him when he then did stand a week later and the Tories really had the wind taken out of their sails, having sort of breathed the sigh of relief. Well, you know, at least that was one thing that Rishi perhaps got right. Well, I think it's quite incredible what reform under Nigel achieved in five weeks flat, because before that, they were struggling to save their deposits in by-elections. Then there were a couple of by-elections where they got over 10%. In the general election, nationwide, you know, a general election would be much harder for a protest-orientated party to do really well at, nationwide they got over 14% of the vote, and they returned MPs. I expected them to return MPs. I think having five MPs is just fine. I think the Conservatives massively underrate the risk to them that

Nigel poses. I mean, Nigel is going to be the most famous Conservative in the land. Well, he's Al Trump, isn't he? Well, he is. He is the dominant kind of figurehead, vanguard leader, banner bearer, for the kind of non-metro right of centre provincial British opinion. And he's far more famous. I would say he's probably as famous as Rishi Sunak by dint of Sunak having been prime minister. But, you know, Sunak's a bit of a drab guy and he's dropping out soon. Nigel is far more famous than any of the Conservative leadership contenders.

He was also a better media performer, more practised at it. I would say that Richard Tyson, Lee Anderson are pretty much as well known as most shadow cabinet ministers now. And I don't think the average voter is going to think the Conservatives have got this great array of talent, a great team, let's go back to them, that they're going to look at and say, you know, are the Conservatives capable of gripping the challenges of our age, particularly on legal and illegal immigration? And they've got a terrible story to tell there. And this Conservative parliamentary party is not going to sign up to leaving the European Convention on Human Rights, to scrapping the Human Rights Act, to any of the core measures that, for instance, Suella Braverman is almost alone in identifying as preconditions for getting a grip of our borders. So I expect border control, lack of integration, the Islamist threat to become bigger and bigger issues over the parliament. You know, Nigel can speak with credibility on it. You know, I think, you know, can whoever's

going to be the next Conservative leader do so? Well, we're looking at some of the contenders there. I mean, if it's Tom Tugendhat, they are finished. Priti Patel is a very good woman. She has spoken about being open to a deal with Reform UK. But you wrote a fascinating piece for, I think it was The Spectator recently, about how does the Conservative Party deal with Suella Braverman? And I would argue, Patrick, they are dealing with her in the wrong way every single day. The rhetoric towards her as if she's some sort of mad extremist, whereas actually, I am 100% convinced that if she made it down to the final two and was put to members as a choice for leader, she would win. She walk it um i i do think you're probably right about that and i agree with you as well about their their sneering attitude towards suella

i mean suella got sacked basically for being right about everything and in in the six seven months after her getting sacked she was proved right that rishiishi's Rwanda legislation wasn't strong enough. She was proved right that the scale of legal migration would be an Achilles heel for the Conservatives in the general election. And I got completely out of control. She was right about the Islamist hate marches and the potential for them to really run out of control and be a corrosive, toxifying effect on our society as a whole. She was fired for being correct on these things and for showing courage on these things.

Now, I think if the Conservatives lose her from their tent, and, you know, I wouldn't be that surprised if they do the Lee Anderson thing, you know, and jump out of the phone. Reform may come a-calling. Because reform's looking very white and male at the moment. I think Suella Braverman would fit in perfectly

actually. I think Suella, they could give her the Home Affairs brief. It would be a dream scenario for reform. And then that would be yet another one of those very few handful of Conservatives that has any credibility on issues like legal and illegal immigration in the reform camp.

It would send a massive signal to Conservative activists, Conservative-leaning voters. And the fact they can't see it and they're complacent, well, it's coming at you fast. Now, the thing is, you talk about the Reform UK threat to the Conservative Party, and I completely agree. They pose a huge threat.

But also, Patrick, they pose a massive threat to Labour, second in so many Labour seats. And I want to talk to you about what's breaking right now, which is Slippery Starmer, the new Prime Minister, seemingly wanting to move ever closer back to the EU, thinking that there's some sort of deal to be done with Macron to help stop the boats. But you have exposed the fact that what this actually means, and I'd love you to detail it, but what this actually will mean is us having to agree to take a certain number of migrants from the EU?

Yeah, absolutely. They'll stop the votes by sort of hiring ferries sort of thing. What seems to be happening, and actually the Conservatives made this accusation during the election and Starmer pooed and pooed it, but it seems to be true that Starmer's going to do a deal whereby he wants the French to accept taking back migrants from the dinghies. But the quid pro quo is that he will accept a much larger number of migrants, maybe three times as many under an official EU scheme.

So France can can send us three times as many. Now, it'll look better. It won't look so chaotic and shambolic. And it will be done low-key, you know, with regular influxes. To be fair, there might be a more reasonable representation of women and children. And I mean actual children, not 23-year-olds pretending to be 14. Or sometimes 43-year-olds pretending to be 14. Or sometimes 43 year olds pretending to be 14. Absolutely. Nonetheless, you know, the problem here is people breaking into our country.

You know, they are gate crashing our country. Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper only see this through the prism that the people coming in are complete victims. They have no agency. She held up the sign agency she held up the sign she held up the sign hashtag refugees welcome these are not refugees they are economic migrants coming from paris and there's been no plan patrick put forward that i have seen over the course of this campaign that at all suggests they will be able to smash the people smuggling gangs. So I actually think this invasion is going to become a flood.

I think numbers are going to go up this year and hit a new record. I think you were referring to a reformist threat to Labour in those red wall seats. Yes. They will look askance at that. Where they were second. And Starmer and Yvette Cooper both talk about people traffickers and people smugglers. Well, they're not traffickers because people are paying them three thousand quid to get in one of the dinghies. It's not done under coercion in the vast majority of cases.

They're not smugglers either because they get to halfway across the channel and then they get a water taxi courtesy of UK Border Force or the RNLI. So a smuggler, that's not what a smuggler does, right? They're people movers, you could argue. But let's not forget the fact that the people in the boats are engaged in the criminal enterprise, they're partners in the criminal enterprise. And as you say, the economic migrants, or i would say even more welfare migrants they're busting into britain and they're getting you know a lifetime share of our welfare offer and patrick a lot of people in the mainstream media are scared to talk about the reality of this i'm not a lot of these people and i'm not saying all of them but a lot of these people are hardened criminals, rapists, drug dealers, sex traffickers and wannabe terrorists.

This is a national emergency. It is a threat to our security. I couldn't agree more. And also it could be a particular threat to women in our country. But it is government would not release the data on sexual assaults, you know, and arrests by country of origin. But there's a lot of anecdotal evidence building up that people from certain countries, men from certain countries which haven't experienced female emancipation are behaving appallingly towards women in our towns and cities. And I think that could be the next big scandal to bust, just like the grooming gang

scandal where Pakistani heritage men mainly were targeting vulnerable white working class young teenage girls. I think you're going to see a scandal in the next year or two whereby someone will get hold of the data about the differential level of sex attacks on British women by men from countries which have never had female emancipation. Yes, because that has happened already in France. And I think it is happening here. But look, so good to speak to you. And as I say, absolutely love your Substack. I'm a big fan of Substack because obviously I think it is the future of the media. It's completely independent and state of the nation is well worth a follow. So Patrick O'Flynn, absolutely brilliant to have you. Thank you, Darren.

Here on Outspoken. But it's time now for the uncancelled interview. And Susan Hall was the best hope to save London. Sadly, despite a valiant fight and a far more impressive result than any of the MSM or her own party had predicted, she narrowly lost out to that odd little Sadiq Khan who is quite literally destroying the UK's capital city. Earlier this week, Donald Trump's vice presidential candidate, Jadie Vance, attracted the ire of the LBC host,

James O'Brien, for joking that the UK could become the world's first Islamist nuclear power. But look at this video put together by Turning Point UK. Because there's a Labour government potentially becoming the first truly Islamist country with nuclear weapons. And not for the first time in recent years. I am completely baffled as to what the point here may be Now, in response to some of those scenes yesterday, specifically the waving of the Islamist flag on the top of Marble Arch Station, Susan tweeted, yet our wonderful cabbies are not allowed to have England flags on their black cabs.

So true. And I'm delighted to say the wonderful Susan Hall joins me now. Susan, great to have you outspoken. You're an outspoken woman. What on earth is happening to London under Sadiq Khan? Well, I have to tell you, you've ruined my evening by showing me a clip of James O'Brien, of all people. I'm sorry, it was for research purposes.

What are you thinking of? So having ruined my evening completely, and then I have to talk to you about the state of our wonderful city. And it's all the things I was saying when I was standing for mayor. First of all, I don't think he realises the struggles some people have, especially in and out of London, that don't have compliant cars for you, Les. I would have stopped the expansion, as you know. And I've spoken to so many people who are desperate. I've also spoken to lots of people that are sick to death of congestion in the centre of London. And actually just stopping congestion charge or making electric cars owners pay congestion charge after next Christmas isn't the answer.

The answer is sorting out these wretched cycle lanes. The one on Park Lane is a famous one. If you look at that, it just causes gridlock in the centre of London. There are lots of other cycle lanes that should not be where they are. These 20 mile an hour zones are driving people around the bend. So there's lots of things he could do to sort congestion out, not just start charging people with electric vehicles for the congestion charge. And then, of course, I know you know this, but the violent crime and knife crime.

Out of control. It is out of control. We need to go back to borough-based policing. Susan, you literally cannot now in London go out with a mobile phone in your hand. It has to be hidden on your person. And you cannot wear a flash watch. Because it's not a question of if you're going to be mugged. It's a question of if you're going to be mugged it's a question of when you're going to be mugged it is despicable that that sort of violent crime

is now just accepted as part of life in Sadiq Khan's London that's right a mobile phone is stolen every six minutes you know and that I mean it it feels dreadful for those poor but i'm i'm very very lucky i've never had mine stolen and i don't know i have twice and an attempted mugging as well on a motorbike it the trouble is they come up towards you on a motorbike and snatch it before you know what you're doing and the feeling afterwards people tell me is just dreadful and you'd know oh yeah and i've had a friend killed i have had a friend killed in a violent attack and they wanted his mobile phone that is what they wanted and and he he fought back and they crushed his head on the concrete. So look, London is a very violent, unpleasant city. We can both agree with that. But Susan, what about the scenes that you tweeted on yesterday?

Why is it that Sadiq Khan will shut down the city on a regular basis for pro, well, officially pro Palestine marches? But come on, Susan, you and me both know these are pro-Hamas marches. These are often pro-terror marches. He'll shut down the city for them. But then on Sunday night, when folk wanted to come in to potentially celebrate a Euros win, obviously it didn't happen in the end for England. Total lockdown. You're not allowed to come in if you're a football fan. It feels like there's two-tier policing going on. I know this was brought up at the Assembly today.

We had Mayor's Question Time this morning. He just said how well he did with a whole load of people at the O2 celebrating or looking at the football. I think people do feel things are becoming unfair. It would feel that to put up the Union flag, you know, the England flag, we're discouraged from doing that at times, which isn't right. And yet other flags are flown all over the place

all the time and seems acceptable. During the mayoralty I was driving around the whole of London obviously and at one point I was going through one particular borough and there were Palestinian flags on virtually all the lampposts. Nobody does anything about that and yet the cabbies who are so patriotic as you well know uh the the cabbies had their little flags on their um on their taxes and they weren't allowed them it just seems wrong it seems ridiculous what did you make of jd vance's comments i mean it was, I guess, a half joke, but talking about the Islamist threat, because it feels like particularly in London, this is a real problem that people are afraid to talk about. I think it was a joke, but none of us are allowed to make jokes about anything anymore. Oh, no. Oh, no. of us are allowed to make jokes about anything anymore because I mean and this this is the trouble and this is why if I make any comment now it will be picked up because it the people on the

left of politics seem to be able to say whatever they like about anything as was as with bits from James O'Brien that has been doing Twitter or X. But anybody that's slightly right of centre, you know, the MSM will just go for us. You can make a joke. You can accidentally say something and they're on top of you straight away. We've really got to put a stop to this. We've got to be able to say what we think. Now, if you're saying something that's highly offensive um and you know it's highly offensive then that is wrong but sometimes people say things in innocence um if they're on the left that's perfectly all right uh if you're slightly more on the right it's not right at all um and it is just you know it's just got to stop because it's getting ridiculous now i completely agree we have seen people on the left openly celebrate the near death of Donald Trump.

We've seen them suggest actually that it was wrong and bad that the bullet missed his head. And we've also seen examples of folk inciting violence towards Trump before that terrible attack. So I agree with all of that. But I guess the issue is, Susan, is that people are afraid to talk about the Islamist threat. There is one, I would argue. J.D. Vance clearly thinks there is one. I mean, look at these scenes in London. I mean, what do you make of it? Is this the London that you recognise? This is the London that we are seeing more and more of. And if people, I mean, we have to have a situation where people can demonstrate. It's all part of democracy. And we have got to accept that.

Now, yesterday, there were people standing outside Parliament with signs and they were shouting, not my king. Now, that's completely against what I believe, but they have the right to say that but i'm very very happy that i note that the uh the youth demand group who said that they were going to stop the whole procedures uh 10 of them were arrested and that's right the minute a demonstration uh becomes a thing that people want to disrupt other people or cause destruction, then that has to be stopped. It does. I mean, what's interesting, I guess, about the place of your party at the moment, Susan, the Conservative Party, is that sometimes they feel out of step with ordinary folk on these issues. And I'll give you the example, and I'd love to know what you thought. But Lee Anderson was suspended from the party. He's now a Reform UK MP. So I would argue, and I did argue at the time, actually, that was a terrible decision from CCHQ and Tory high command. Because

Lee Anderson, I mean, I made him quite famous, actually, on my GB News show. But that was because he was a man of the people completely in touch with the people the people love him and when he made comments about Sadiq Khan being captured by Islamist extremists and being in control of London he was booted out of the party so I just wonder if that's why you don't want to talk about it and also if that sort of censorship is right or perhaps you totally disagreed with Lee Anderson's comments. No, I often agreed with Lee Anderson. I liked him hugely.

But sometimes there's two separate things there, isn't there? If you look at the different contenders for the new leadership, I know all of them except one, the ones we assume are going to go for it. Who are you backing? I'm not backing anybody until I know who is there and what they say.

But very often these people are much nicer. I mean, I know people that know Keir Starmer. They say he's an exceptionally nice chap. I know Rishi Sunak. And he's a very nice, honest guy. Did he back you properly though, Susan? Because what I'm frustrated about, both with your campaign and also with the campaign run by my friend Sean Bailey, now Lord Bailey, but he ran before you.

He was the candidate before you. And in both of your campaigns, you came way closer to Khan than what anyone expected. But it felt like CCHQ and Rishi Sunak and the Tory party high command didn't really believe that either of you could win I think that's possibly true I mean the reality is we can win the dislike for Sadiq Khan is unbelievable the problem is lots of people thought they wouldn't bother to go out and vote and that is the issue if everybody that had an opinion on't bother to go out and vote. And that is the issue.

If everybody that had an opinion on this actually had gone out and voted, it could have been very, very different. I completely outplayed my own party with the results I got. Yes. Because I think people could see. I spent a year knocking on doors. I spoke to as many people as I possibly could. I had a small manifesto, if you like,

because I knew everything that I promised I'd do, I would do. There was no question about that. And the biggest thing for me was sorting out policing. I mean, the ULAs would have stopped on day one. I gave my word on that and it would have happened, despite me having disagreements with TfL over it, would have stopped on day one. I gave my word on that and it would have happened. Despite me having disagreements with TfL over it, but that's a whole other story, but they would have had to have stopped it.

But it's sorting out the Metropolitan Police, making sure they've got enough resource and trying to persuade the Commissioner that we need to go back to proper borough-based policing because innocent young kids are getting killed out there as you say you can't walk around with with a decent watch some of us have to walk around with it with the phone with the map on it to see where we're going i know but there's so many problems in london it's a place that we don't have enough young people. Young people are moving out because they can't afford to live here. You know, we've got to sort out rents and accommodation and make sure that there's more.

And the other problem we've got is that businesses, I know there was an article in the FT, I was told about it, so I can't quote it exactly, but it was more or less that businesses were being told not to set up in london because because there's so much shoplifting that's no good that you know london is i mean sadiq khan seems to think that having a labour government will be the answer to everything oh no no he has got a 21 billion pound budget he needs to sort london out that is actually his job it's going to destroy it um but look let me just push you once more though what what about demographic change in london is that part of the

problem and do you believe that there are now no-go zones in london because it does feel like there are some parts of the capital where you don't particularly want to tread if if you are white um i've heard other people say that i've been everywhere in london uh knocking on doors in every single borough um and it's my london as much as it's yours and other people that live here so um i i've knocked on doors everywhere um i live in Harrow which is a massively diverse borough and I love it. We've got an incredible Asian community here, the Gujaratis are incredible people

and so I've been brought up really in a very diverse area. I love it. It brings so many different things to Harrow. But I have heard other people say they don't want to go in certain areas, which we can't allow. And that's all down to policing and being firm when things are done that aren't right, we need to stop it. My, my opinion about the demonstrations, the Palestinian demonstrations, is a line should have been drawn much, much earlier, right at the beginning. And comments like from the river to the sea should not have been allowed at all from the beginning.

And, you know, I'd be far stricter on that. I think it's absolutely outrageous that we've got an incredible jewish community in london and my jewish friends and my uh jewish colleagues i think nearly all of them will not go into london that's outrageous when i say into london i mean into central london uh that's wrong can you imagine and i also say would it be the same if it was any other community of course not and that's what i'm talking about because there has to be tolerance from all parts of the community susan like if there's any chance you know sadiq can't always say diversity is our strength but if there's any chance of diversity working of multiculturalism, then actually there has to be assimilation and there has to be positive steps from both sides.

And the way that you've seen, I would call them Islamist extremists, talk about the Jewish community to me does not suggest that there's any tolerance or any idea that assimilation is on the agenda? No, that's right. But it's a certain group of people that are like that. To be fair, I know so many really good, decent Muslims who are not happy with that group of people. And we must be careful that they aren't damaged by this but we've got to make sure that people integrate properly and when we've got so many people coming in immigration my my government got that wrong when we've got so many people coming in uh there isn't time or the space for them to integrate properly into our way of life and I genuinely

think that this is something we need to be concentrating on because it is our way of life if you or I went and lived in I don't know Dubai or somewhere else we would expect to keep to the rules and to sign up to some cultural customs and you would understand that you would have to try and assimilate with the local culture rather than bring your own culture and especially by the way susan when that culture is for example hating on gay men or despising the rights of women and not wanting women like you to take senior roles in public life. And I just, I am worried about the introduction of Sharia law by the back door because there are some parts of the UK where Sharia law is now being practiced.

And I don't think that is right. And I don't think we can just turn a blind eye to it given the consequences. No, if it's happening, no, it's certainly not. And the other thing that I feel very strongly about is protecting women's spaces um i really feel strongly about that um it it's funny because i would somebody took me for lunch at a gentleman's club it's very nice i've never been to one before and they said to me oh and i expect you'd fight for women to be able to belong here. And I said, no, I wouldn't. And I really wouldn't.

On the basis, if you want to try and make sure that you keep women's spaces for women, if that's what women want, then men should be allowed to do it as well. You can't have double standards. And it was quite an interesting conversation. But, you know, we can't have double standards um and it was it was quite an interesting conversation uh but you know we can't have double standards all the time uh what's sadiq khan like susan because i remember that night where the result was announced sorry it was the afternoon when the result was announced and i know you later said that he did shake your hand but there's that famous image of him just looking at you in a nasty manner and refusing to take your hand and refusing to shake your hand what's he like is he a nice guy or was there a genuine

personal animosity between the pair of you during the campaign? There is an animosity. There's no doubt about it. I mean, I genuinely wanted to shake his hand. He won. It was a fair fight. You know, and you've got to accept sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. I put my hand out and he ignored me. So I touched his arm. And I've never seen that picture before. I think he says it all doesn't it. But, you know, in politics, there's winners and losers, and I had lost he had won. So I went to say, Well done, but I've never had a meeting with him. I've, well, I've never been really in a space on our own. He doesn't talk to the assembly members very much. He clearly doesn't like me, which is fair enough because he's not my favourite person either.

He's not mine. You have to accept that. No, and you know, I don't strike you like that. I just want to pick you up on one thing. Are you absolutely convinced, finally, Susan, that it was a fair fight? Because all I'll say is that I used to live in Tower Hamlets and you know what they do with postal votes there. There's a lot of proof and evidence over the past few years of lots of manipulation of votes in that area.

So are you convinced that it was a fair fight? I'll tell you what wasn't fair is that a charity called Hope Not Hate delivered tens or hundreds of thousands of leaflets with a picture with my face on it with racist written across my face. That wasn't fair and some of those leaflets I believe were delivered by an assembly member. That wasn't fair. And the other thing that wasn't right was a tweet went out the night before the election from our new health secretary, Wes Streeting,

saying that, I've got to get the words here right, if you vote, a vote for Susan Hall is a vote for white supremacists islamophobes and racists and that has 6.1 million views now that was disgusting because i wouldn't dream of doing that to sadiq i absolutely wouldn't dream of it. And that is what wasn't fair. Because they're now saying, oh, I mean, they're complaining like mad. And quite rightfully so at the harassment some of their Labour MPs have had during the general election. Jess Phillips particularly has.

And quite right, we shouldn't have that harassment. We mustn't forget we've lost two uh mps but no but much of the rhetoric that encourages that sort of political violence does come from the left and yes that's proof calling you a white supremacist it's utterly revolting i mean i would argue go and sue him but what's the point in that I guess he's exposed himself for who he really is. And look, I'm glad you're fighting the good fight, Susan. Absolutely brilliant to have you on our program. I'll always fight, Stan.

I will always fight. You do. You're a very, very good woman. And it was a valiant fight against Sadiq Khan. And please keep fighting for London because I'm not going to lie, Susan, I am worried about the state of the capital city now standing by our royal mastermind Lady Victoria Harvey to analyze Harry and Meghan's flop era first though what's so important about being independent is that I'm only ever going to tell you about products that I use and truly believe

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Outspoken. Remember to use the coupon code outspoken but now back to the show and it's time for our royal mastermind lady victoria harvey lady v one of my absolute favorites on gb news one of my absolute favorites when it comes to talking about both the royals and politics. One of my first guests when I launched on YouTube before this show was even developed. I'm so excited to have you back on Outspoken, Lady V. Good to see you again. All this health talk. I'm at a medical health resort right now in Austria.

How's it going? Amazing. Yeah. you again all this health talk i'm at a i'm at a medical health resort right now in austria amazing yeah it's uh it's just like everything they just tell you everything i you find out like i can't like honey lactose apparently can't take what lactose so yeah i know like ice cream and stuff like that. I'm going to have to cut it down. No, I've just, yeah, I've just thought, you know what? I'm going to take a week out for myself and just get myself centered and ready for action. Well, I am delighted that you've still found the time to be outspoken tonight because obviously there's a lot to talk about. And you're going to stick around for our after show, too, where we're going to talk about all of the political developments. But I had to ask you, Lady V, about Harry and Meghan,

because it all seems to have gone so wrong over the past two months. There was that disastrous moment at the ESPYs, where he's accepting this Pat Tillman award against the wishes of his own mother he's then heckled by the crowd on the way out the guardian have described this as harry and megan's flop era it's like everything they touch at the moment turns to shat what's happening what is happening what's going on with megan's other products besides her jam have we have we got any other new products that come out recently scam jam well no and even the scam jam hasn't actually been put on sale to purchase yet so everything is going wrong what

has happened has america turned because obviously i know you were living in california until quite recently yeah i mean i think just like people are generally like sick of them, I think. You know, it's going to get to a point where they're going to have to probably move country. I'm not sure where they would move to next. But you'd sort of get that feeling, right, that whoever is telling them what to do, it's not really going according to plan. No, so is there a way for them to turn it around um i don't i don't see like harry getting back on track um being married i don't think he'll ever be accepted back to the uk while he is married and as far as megan you know i know it was thomas markle so it was his birthday just now and obviously today that's supposed to add that you know they haven't made up yet it's um

it just shows a lot of like her character i think you know so it you know the photos it looked like they were very very close um when she was younger and seeing what she did with her dog she met harry and she just cast her whole life away that she had had previously you know including all her animals right that she abandoned yeah the dog just didn't come and for me that's a real thing you can really tell someone's personality in that like she's rescued at this dog and then just like leaves the dog for harry like you know so wrong i know i remember speaking to her staff at the time who were like we can't believe this she's not bringing one of the dogs it's bizarre it's like she chose her favorite dog to come and the other one wasn't able to i do want to wish thomas markle a happy 80th birthday though

he is a really amazing man and the thing is victoria he always got such a bad rap in the media because of the way that megan markle painted him as some sort of loser it's like he is an emmy award winner he gave her an incredible life he was a top sound technician on general hospital which is one of the biggest soap operas in america and he got her start in acting by getting her in it's often who you know in hollywood so he would have met everybody through him basically yeah 100% that she had starting out was because of her father 100% i just want to pick up on something you said though because look i know you're in these circles, right? And you hang out with a lot of these people and a lot of the friends, the close friends of William and Harry.

And I was actually at lunch the other day with a former close friend of Harry. And she said to me that all of the friends now have dropped him in the UK. They all think the way that he has acted by not inviting them to places, by turning on them, has been so bad. And I was really shocked by that because I thought, my goodness. And actually, a lot of them are friends with William, you know, they and they have basically chosen William over Harry. Is that what you're hearing? Yeah, I mean, I think probably quite a lot of them have to pick a side. And I and probably because of the behavior, you know, of Harry and Meghan, you know, as far as like the book and all of those revelations about the family, you know, they are quite close in age.

So they would have had a lot of the same friends and those friends have most likely picked william because harry's not around he doesn't make an effort with them he doesn't you know any weddings or big events of supposed close friends and family friends he hasn't made an effort and he's sort of living in this bubble which is this bollywood bubble um which i know i know a lot of because i live there and you are you're very like insulated over there and um you kind of forget about the world outside that little bubble you get the californian brain yeah it's sad it just feels like he still hasn't woken up from this sort of daydream that he's in and um you would have thought he would by now but what you're

saying is that the friends will not accept him while he's still married but if he yeah they would yeah i think most people have a problem with her because you know she's the one that took him away right from his previous life and his friends will see that as you know she while she is there there's things are not going to change for the better um and i don't think she even allows him to see his friends because she thinks he'll be led astray and he'll get back into his old life and maybe then wake up and realise, what am I doing with Megan? That's what I'd heard too, that she's very controlling about the people who he hangs out with. You know, always has the mother around.

It's like Harry has been taken over, like, you know, by her, but then she's got the mother always around, keeping an eye on things. And he obviously doesn't have that. He doesn't have the family members like she does. The crazy thing to me, and this is when I realised that it was all over, was, you know, Tom in Skippy,

who's one of his best mates and also one of william's mates he wasn't even invited to the main sort of reception of the wedding and this was the guy that would often lead harry astray and probably banned him right oh yeah yeah without without it without any doubt because she didn't want those sorts of party animal friends around her but the point is your old friends matter i mean the most important people in my life over the past year you know like when you're going through tough times are the friends who i was friends with when i was at school because the other people who really know me. And Harry's lost all of them, Lady V. I know, it's sad.

It's really sad. And Hollywood friends are not real friends either. But look, stand by, Lady Victoria Harvey, because we've got loads more to discuss about the royals. But also, I've got to get your take on everything going on with Donald Trump. You're obviously a big ally, a big supporter. And I know you've got serious concerns over the attempted assassination.

Well, I've had concerns for quite a while, because I know a lot of people have said this, but they've tried to do everything to him. They've tried to indict him. They've tried to imprison him. They've tried everything. Exactly, and it's like the last thing is killing him yeah the last frontier for that is assassination totally well i want to talk

much more about that in one second but just hold that thought lady v because what i'm going to do and this is what i do on the show by the way i'll explain uh because i don't trust big tech entirely uh we'll have the second half of the conversation on our uncancelled after show. So this is a safe space where we're not patrolled by the senses of the internet. So if you head right now to www.outspoken.live, our membership section, sign up, register. It's just five pounds a month, but you get half an hour of extra content every single day. So at this stage, we're coming off YouTube. We're coming off Rumble.

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