Dan Wootton Outspoken - ENEMIES OF BRITAIN REEVES, STARMER, NARINDER KAUR & PRINCE HARRY NAMED UNION JACKASSES OF 2025

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

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No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 387. And of course, this is our very special week of pre-Christmas shows. Three sleeps to go as we reveal the Union Jackasses of 2025. Now, you will know that every single day this year, you have been submitting your votes as to which despicable, Cretton deserves the title of Union Jackass that particular day. What I haven't told you is that our incredible outspoken team behind the scenes have collated every single vote throughout the year for our ultimate countdown today where we will reveal the top 50 Union Jackassers of 2025. And good Lord, there is some serious competition. And for our countdown today, I will be joined by my superstar panel.

It is none other than husband and wife duo. There they are. Look how Christmasy they look in red, Christine and Neil Howlton. No, of course, because it is our special weeks of shows, we will have no live uncannceded after show today. But don't worry, all of our royal content, and there are some goodies available on Substack at www. outspoken.

A couple of highlights coming this week. The Lady Colin Campbell Awards will be revealed on Christmas Day at midday. And also, remember that big news that we are launching our first ever outspoken Christmas message on Christmas Day delivered this year by none other than Rupert Lowe. So we have a very big week of shows for you. Do stay with us as usual. But are you ready? Let's reveal the fifth.

50 Union Jackassers of 2025. Let's go. Okay, I'm going to get straight into the countdown now. Let's take a look at number 50. Matthew Stadlin on the list. Oh my goodness, I can't stand him. 49. Humsar, I don't call him Yusuf. You know that.

I call him Humsar Useless. Yes, exactly. Neil Hamilton's got it. At number 48, Benjamin Butterworth, 47 Adel Ray from Good Morning, Britain. At 46, Lucy Powell, now deputy leader of the Labour Party. 45, Lenny Henry. Now, you know he this year suggested billions of reparation should go to the British black population. At 44, Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, 43, Yasmin Alibaya Brown, 42.

He hates the whites, doesn't he? Anasawa, the Labour leader in Scotland and number 41, the chief of the Metropolitan Police. Who remembers him? There's just no rape gangs in London. Mark Rowley. Okay, you heard them that are already reacting. Christine and Neil Hamilton with me on the superstar panel today.

Christine, you really feel sorry for Benjamin Butterworth? I mean, this is the outspoken audiences vote, by the way, not mine. No, I understand that. I mean, let's start with Matthew Stadlin. He is one of the most deeply annoying people on the television. I mean, I know he does his best, but I just do find him very, very annoying. I know. Well, you've got to feel sorry for him, really, don't you, rather than angry at him?

No, absolutely. He's such a cuddly, woolly-minded, liberal, limp-risted, spineless individual. So, I mean, I think, you know, he's perfect. He means well. How about that? Well, okay, that's your view But yes, look, I like Benjamin I know you've had issues with him

It was thanks to you that I met Benjamin And I've cuddled up on your sofa with Benjamin A few times And yeah, I don't agree with him Of course I don't for heaven's sake But he's a great go-getter And he goes all over the world To extraordinary places

And he doesn't go to Toramilinos and Ibitha He'll go to live with sort of Somalia tribes Deep in the Somali And he's very very very, very adventurous and he really gets out there and finds interesting people that most of the world overlooks. So I like Benjamin. He's one of my favourite lefties. He's misguided and he's hopeless about politics and everything. But as a guy, I think he's got a hell of a lot going for him. So what I really respect about him is that he is prepared to have the fight. And that is

so important because if you notice so many on the left, from Zach Polanski to Slipri Stama, they only want to speak to people who adore them, who are sycophants, who love them. And even this year, Benjamin turned up alongside me to the 2CTV New Media Festival in a very, very grumpy audience who were not on his side and he had the fight. So on that, I totally agree with you. Okay, let's get moving on the list. At number 40 of your top 50 Union Jackasses of 2025, it is the Loose Women's star Nadia Sawala. Number 39, the Brexit Virgin Femiola Wally.

38, he calls himself a conservative, but come on, it's Ian Dale of LBC. 37, yes, he's still pulling the strings, Tony Blair and 36, good Lord, he should be locked up forever. Alistair Campbell, the war criminal. 35, he was gone from the BBC. this year, the British Bashing Corporation boss, Tim Davy, 34, Alastair Campbell's co-host, Rory Stewart. 33. Now, this was an honorary, Emmanuel Macron, the French president. 32. He wants to swap me and any other patriot for a chicken teakamasa.

Here's Morgan. And 31, it's that race-baiting Muslim bush for a shake. Okay, Neil, who do you want to pick up on there? Well, Tony Blair, I mean, he really should be consigned to out of darkness for all eternity, shouldn't it? And Alastair Campbell with him. I mean, they are a fine pair, as you say, the war criminals. And how they've got the gall to carry on appearing in public? And Blair now coming back as supposedly the saviour of Gaza and the Middle East. I mean, God Almighty, give us a break.

Christine, what about you? What about me? Well, I mean, I'm struggling slightly because I can't remember. which one Bushra Shike is. Is she the one? Is she the person who pointed to the Buckingham Palace balcony and said it's very white?

No, that's Adjo and Doa adjo. But Bushra Shake, you'll remember who she's like the nirindicore type for her. That'll do. That's all you need to know. That's all I need to know. No, that'll do. Pierce Morgan. Yeah, I was going to say

it's got to be an honourable mention this year for Pearce Morgan. And I think he would have been higher up the list because he actually got worse as the year went on, Christine? Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, he, he loves to tease in a way, but I think he's so full of himself. He's so self-important and he always has been. And he, I think he should be higher up the list. I really do. And I mean, Emmanuel Macron, I mean, not even British for heaven's sake. He shouldn't be there at all, but there we are. People vote. As for Tim Davy, I don't know whether you know this, Dan, but this row about panorama and doctoring Trump speech, 40 years ago, Neil was the

subject of a panorama program where they doctored, they took X and said it was Y, and it was quite extraordinary. So they haven't changed. Neil took them to court, one in the libel action, and we were promised this will never happen again. And I got the director, I got the director general of the time fired as well Alistair Milne who was Seamus Milne's father remember he was Corbyn's communications director and it was a hatchet job called Maggie's militant tendency the idea that they had was that there must be a group of closet Nazis in the Tory party who were trying to take it over in the same way as the trots took over or tried to take over the Labour Party through the militant tendency it was all complete fiction but the BBC broadcast it without

to turning her hair. And it took us three years until we got it into the high court. And then they sued for peace after a week of me in the witness box. So nothing changes with the British Bashing Corporation, does it? 40 years later, the wheel has come full circle. It's astonishing. It really is astonishing. And you know what? What should have happened back then, Neil, is the panorama show should have been shut down. I mean, I think the whole BBC should have been shut down. But at the very least, the panorama show should have shut down. And then maybe Princess Diana would be alive today. But of course, then they covered up in terms of the Martin Bashir scandal. And here we are with another panorama scandal. I repeat, if this was the private

sector, these organizations and shows would have been gone a long time ago. But let's continue our countdown. These are the top 50 union jackasses as chosen by you. Every single day, the outspoken audience throughout the year. And number 30, it is that little goblin, lefty goblin, Owen Jones. 39, Jeremy Corbyn. Now, the non-leader of the your party. That was a catastrophe this year, wasn't it? Dr. 28, sorry, number 28, Dr. Scholar at number 27.

Now, you may not remember the name, but she was a big deal earlier in the year. Nicola Marfleet. She was the governor of the jail that Tommy Robinson was locked up in. And number 26, Carol Vorderman, 25, India Willoughby, 24. I think he's going to be even higher up the list next year. The tit whisperer, Zach Polanski, who became leader of the Green Party this year. And number 23, Bob Villain, we all know what that loser did. 22, Peter Mandelson, who obviously got sacked from his job as the US High Commissioner

because of his links to Epstein and a 21. I don't even think she did anything specific this year, but she is Diane Abbott, so that's enough. That's enough. But Christine, Zach Polanski, oh goodness me, he has become a nefarious force in British politics after just a few weeks. He has.

I mean, it's astonishing. His rise has been even quicker than no Farage. It's taken Farage 20 years. Jack Palanski did it in about. 20 minutes. I mean, he is astonishing. He's a force of nature and he'll be around for a bit quite what he did specifically to become a jackass. I'm not sure. The one on the list, you know, who I feel actually rather sorry for is poor old Carol Vorderman because she really thought she'd be in the Lords by now. And she's not. And you wonder what's gone wrong because she was

so supportive of labour. Do you remember, she's gone very quiet. And she doesn't say a thing now. I wonder why. It hasn't worked, has it? She hasn't got her place in the the Lords and all sorts of other non-entities are there instead of Carol. She's always got the award that we all remember for rear of the year, 1985 or whatever. And Neil, what I will

say is that she's gone from having an ass to being an ass, and that is all we want to hear of Carol Wardham and her bum. That is it. Okay, we're into the top 20, Union Jackassers of 20, 25.

But number 20, this is interesting. Lindsay's Hoyle, the Speaker of the House, you remember earlier this year, he really kept on trying to shut down debate about a whole load of issues that I think should be able to be discussed in the House of Commons. 19, Gary Lineca, finally the year the BBC got rid of him.

Oh, and by the way, it was only comparing Zionists to rats that finally did it. And number 18, the other non-leader of the Yor Party, What a joke she is, Zara Solana. Number 17, John Swinney, of course, the First Minister of Scotland, but he's still beaten, still beaten on the list because her hangover in Scotland remains vast. Schie means Sturgeon, the former First Minister at number 16.

A single and eligible woman this year, ladies, she's on the market. Sorry, men, she's on the markets. At number 15, James O'Brien, the LBC. Evil man. I'm really going to say that. I mean it. Evil man. Number 14, Jess Phillips. That is because of her terrible, terrible handling of the Pakistani Muslim rape gang inquiry. At number 13, this is interesting. He's a right winger, isn't he? But there he is. Zia Yusuf, the chairman of Reform UK, formerly until he quit the role and was back within 48 hours after reporting Rupert Lowe to the police. At number 12, Ed Rainer. She's a tax dodging cheat, but of course in the Labour Party, that makes you more likely to become Prime Minister. And at number 11, now Foreign Secretary, Yvette Cooper. Okay, Neil, lots of interesting folk to pick up on in the top 20. But I think it's Sierra Yusuf that stands out for me there at number 13. The lefties we understand. This is a guy who Reform UK clearly think is the heir apparent to Nigel Farage. Yet this year, he reported Rupert Lowe to the police for hurty words. Do you understand why outspoken viewers have put him so high up the list near? Well, I can understand why people might take against him because of what he did to Rupert Lowe.

That was appalling, particularly if you're the chairman of a party like Reform that's supposed to believe in free speech and honest debate and so on. But since he's come back as the chairman of reform, I must say, I do think he's done quite a good job as the head of their policy unit, developing policies for the party. And they are now getting a more broad-based set of policies for the next election and their manifesto. But so I think this may be a historical overhang from last year or whenever it was that Rupert was kicked out of reform. I don't trust the guy, Christine. I really don't. But is there anyone else on the list, Christine, that you want to pick up on there? James O'Brien, maybe?

Before we leave Zia Yusuf, you've just said you don't trust the guy. What he did to Rupert, though, as you both said, was appalling. If he'll do that to Rupert, he'll do it to you, he'll do it to me. He'll do it to any other of his colleagues. I mean, you know, he's shown his true colours, and I wouldn't trust him at all. I wouldn't want to be a colleague of his, to be honest. Oh, gosh, well, there's quite a lot. They're poor old Lindsay Hoyle, honestly.

I mean, can't we just leave him alone until he fluffers off to his retirement home? Gary Linnaker, yeah, I mean, at last, I mean, how many years has he been to be. flouting in our faces all his appalling view. Well, okay, they're his views, all right, his views, which he's not entitled to have as a BBC sports correspondent. James O'Brien, I mean, we used to have somebody

who came to help us in the garden doing all the heavy work, and he listened all day long to James O'Brien. Now, can you imagine what his views were like at the other end? He never listened to anything different. I mean, awful. He well deserves to be on there.

Angela Rainer, I mean, you know, she's going to be the comeback kid, isn't she? Oh, no, there's the picture from the days when she had the time to fluff her hair up like a King Charles Spaniel. No, straight together. Do you remember in the old days? She doesn't even bother to brush these days. Yeah, no. She is more popular within the Labour movement and doesn't that tell you everything you need to know?

The ultimate champagne socialist. But, you know, because she thinks all Tories are scum. Great, great. Let's just forgive her. Okay, we're into the top 10. This is very exciting. The top 10 union jackasses of 2025. And at number 10 on the list, it is terrible.

Now Home Secretary, she took the job this year. But indeed, she is an Islamist hiding in plain sight Shabana MacMood. And Neil Hamilton, I mean, you only have to look back at this woman's previous. statements that she made before finding power to know everything you need to know about her. Islam matters more than anything, Neil. Islam matters more than the law. Islam matters more than her politics. Islam matters more than party. She is an Islamist. That is very, very dangerous in a home secretary who's talking tough, Neil, but I think absolutely responsible for this ongoing invasion of our disunited kingdom.

Yeah, I agree because the policies that the Labour Party are pushing out as the cure to the small boats are not going to work. So the whole thing is a complete fraud from start to finish. They know that without getting out of the ECHR and the UN Refugee Convention, nothing can be done by a British government, particularly one which doesn't have the will to do anything about it, which our government certainly doesn't have. And I think that she is just trying to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, even though she's pulled the wool back off her head because she doesn't wear her headscarf anymore.

But all that is merely a temporary expedient until she can get her hands properly on the levers of power. She's denied over the last weekend that she doesn't have any eyes on Starmer's job, but I don't believe that either. Of course she doesn't. Well, what worries me about her is that she's the very visible and very powerful tip of the iceberg.

And there are so many Labour MPs whose loyalty is not to this country or to our monarch. Their loyalty is to their religion or to their country of origin. And I find that deeply, deeply worrying. And you can see the Labour Party trimming their sails all the time to please that lot. And as I say, she is just the visible tip of that iceberg. And it'll probably get worse. Well, no, they're all going to go after the next election, aren't they? Well, you say that.

I know. But you say that, but I mean there are loads of constituencies in this country where the Muslim vote is now so big that the Labour Party, if they were able to secure the loyalty of their co-religionists, they would still be able to win those seats. And what we're seeing in the Labour Party is tacking to the left and to Islamic extremism in order to try and choke off the threat from the Green Party. and Zach Polanski. So it's good news that the left are going to be as split as the right has been. But nevertheless, I think this is a terrible omen for the future that the Islamisisation of Britain is going apace. And within 30 years, we may well be in a minority on our own country.

Absolutely. Well, apparently, as I understand it, the statistics, if you're a white Brit born today, by the time you're 25, you'll be in a minority in your own country. And if you're living in a big city, you're already a minority. I mean, this is already happening. And Neil, I think you're completely right to point out

that this is going to be the direction of travel because even though it probably is futile for Labour, they will be destroyed at the next election. You know what politicians are like, Neil? Because you were one. They will fight to the death. And unfortunately, that fight to the death already means that they've got.

given up on the red wall. They've given up on working class Brits. So they are going to be all Islamist all the time ahead of the next election because those critical seats for them are the streets of West Streetie, Yvette Cooper, Angela Raina, Jess Phillips, where they literally won by a few hundred votes. And can I just say it's not racist to say what we've just said, what I find deeply disturbing. I mean, I don't want the culture of my country to change, which is what's happening. And look at that teacher. I forget his name, but only a couple of weeks ago, he has lost his job for saying to a people that Britain is a Christian country. Now, that is a fact. We are still hanging on just to being a Christian country, and he's lost

his job. Now, what sort of country is it that allows somebody to lose their job, especially a teacher, for stating the truth? Absolutely. And he was never named that teacher, by the way, but he was literally sacked for calling Britain a Christian country. It is chilling, Neil. It is, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, look, let's move on without top 10. And at number nine of your list of Union Jackasses of 2025, it's the dumbest MP in the history of the realm. But can you believe this year? He became. deputy prime minister, yes, it's Calamity Lammy at number nine. And I mean, Christine, this is extraordinary. This is completely extraordinary. You know, a man who shamed himself on mastermind. I mean, that appearance alone should have been enough to rule him out ever entering public office. Then during the Brexit debate, he described people like you, people like Neil,

people like me as Nazis, literal Nazis. This year, Christine, he even got into a row with a French taxi driver. I mean, this dude is actually a stain on the United Kingdom. And I am so embarrassed that he is our deputy prime minister. I couldn't agree more. I think it's possibly, possibly marginally less embarrassing because most people. in the world have no idea who the deputies prime minister is, but I mean, he was our foreign secretary. He was our representative on the world stage. I mean, that I just thought was hideous.

But to be at least, I mean, if something happens, if the proverbial bus goes down Downing Street, Lammy wouldn't automatically take over the prime ministerial roles, as I understand it. It's not like in America. So, but I know it's, I know that mastermind is a very difficult chair. I, I, always refused to do it because I never wanted my ignorance to be shown up. And I thought I would panic and I would, my mind would, my brain would freeze. So I, you've got to give him a little bit of latitude, but not question after question. Name a blue cheese from the Midlands, Red Leicester. I mean, you know, and who succeeded Henry the 8th, Henry the 7th.

You know. No, there's no excuse. There's no excuse. And I find it deeply embarrassing. And I think he is a racist. He's an anti-white racist. Yeah, he's an anti-white racist. I know he's not.

married to a white woman, but, I mean, oh, I mean, look, honestly, those pictures. Well, I don't know, Neil, one of his worst moments this year, Neil, was do you remember when his department released Habush Cabato, who was the sex attacker illegal, who had caused all of the uprising in Epine Essex and the launch of the pink ladies and all of that, you know, the most famous sex attacker in the country, his department released him. Any other politician would have had to lose their job, fall on their sword. Do you know what David Lammy did that day? He went to a civil service panel about how we need to give more jobs to black people in the United Kingdom. That to me says everything about the type of man we are dealing with. Identity

politics above performance, identity politics, above patriotism. Identity politics, Neil, above our safety. Absolutely. And it is institutionalized racism, isn't it? The left don't. The left don't seem to recognise this, that positive discrimination in favour of minorities is a form of racism in itself. So, you know, the greatest crime that they think they can accuse us of is being institutionally racist, but they exude it themselves. And the, you know, he's now the Minister of Justice who's trying to get rid of one of the great pillars of the British justice system, jury trials for lots of people, something which goes back to Magna Carta and beyond. So there's no limit to the damage that this idiot can do, you know, we need to get rid of him as quickly as possible

or get him out of a job where he can do the sort of harm that is in prospect for us. I mean, Christine, it's so true, isn't it? Sorry, just to interrupt Christine before you come in, on the issue of the jury trial, imagine Christine if this were a right-wing government. There would be headlines all around the world about how we were heading into a dystopian, authoritarian error. But because it's Lammy, everyone's accepted it. Well, I haven't. I mean, this guy before he was in power

was campaigning for the jury trial when there were discussions during COVID that they should be dropped. Now that he's in power, Christine, they're gone. I know, well, as the phrase goes in the modern world, there's always a tweet. And there's always a tweet from the past

whenever anybody says anything there it is. And no, I find it It used to be the case that women were promoted because they were women, which was wrong. People should be promoted on merit. It shouldn't matter what they are. But in the bad old days, you know, certain women, let's not name any of them, they got the job because they were women. Now with this DEI or DIE, whichever one it is, it's utterly ridiculous.

I mean, what was the name of the Reform MP who got into deep trouble because she pointed out that so many... Oh, Sarah Poachin. They were governed by DEI. I mean, you know, it's not, and what was his name, the mayor of London, I suspect we'll come on to him later. He rejected a photograph of a white family because he said, that's not my London.

And this was in an advertising campaign. And he wanted a photograph of a black family because he said that's more representative. We're just having it thrust down our throats the whole time. And if you object, you know, you are regarded as, It's nothing to do with racism. It's balance. It's getting things right. It's truth, frankly.

Oh, there he is. Look, gosh. Look at that scowl. Oh, dear David Lammy, can we move on? It is so depressing that David Lammy is in the high position that he's in. Look at his performance the other day at Prime Minister's questions. His first time, first of all, he lied. He said he'd spent the morning shopping for a new suit because his godmother was in the gallery.

And that's why he hadn't got a poppy on. rubbish. He hadn't been out that morning. He'd been preparing for question. Why does he need to lie? So obviously, when he's standing in for the Prime Minister. I mean, he's deeply untrustworthy. His values are not, well, certainly not my values. Well, he's so thick. He's only dimly aware of his own existence, so I think you better give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. 2025 will go down as the year that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle didn't just lose support in the United Kingdom, but were trashed around the world. Indeed, in the US this year,

Meghan Markle is beating P. Diddy, to be named the most disliked celebrity of the year. And here on outspoken, you will know that every single day, our millions of viewers vote for their union jackass. And we have collated every single vote across the course of of the year and we are now into our top 10 countdown and at number eight. Yes, that's right. It is the Duchess of Delusion herself, Megan Markle. My superstar panel are with me, Christine and Neil Hamilton. Now, Christine, when it comes to Megan Markle and 2025, there are a plethora of reasons she could have made this list. I mean, for me personally, I guess two stand-out. It was that night in Paris when she decided to post the video after the Balenciaga fashion show of her driving through the streets of Paris right near the tunnel where Prince Harry's mother, Princess Diana, was killed on a Saturday night.

That was not coincidence, Christine. And then more recently, of course, the debacle over her father, Thomas Markle, his leg has amputated, Christine. not only did she not go to the hospital in a PR claim, which proved to be completely untrue, she said, oh, I've reached out. Then it's emerged, Christy, that the letter that she sent was actually addressing down. The dudes just lost her leg, and she's still attacking him for having a relationship with the Daily Mail. Despite the fact, Christine, she has relationships with lots of journalists, including, by the way, Brian E. Gordon, a columnist at the Daily Mail.

male itself, but she's also sold her story to the highest bidder for Netflix, for Spotify, for Lemonada, the list goes on. Christine, does Meghan Markle deserve to be in the top 10 union jackasses in the world for 2025? And if so, why? Absolutely. And she should be higher up, frankly. I can see somebody who's coming up shortly, who I would swap her for. No, I mean, I think she's one of the most despicable women, people, frankly, on the planet. I mean, her behaviour has been appalling right from the moment. When she first stepped onto the stage, we gave her the benefit of the doubt. We welcomed her. I welcomed her. I thought, fine, okay, we've all got to get with it. We've got to have some more colour in the royal family, etc.

She was given the benefit of all the possible doubts in the world. And she has thrown away all that goodwill by her attitude, by her behaviour towards her father, her behaviour towards the king. Do you know, I mean, the idea that Harry has never been to see his father-in-law is astonishing, completely astonishing, and that they have never taken their children. They claim, oh, we can't because it would be a media circus. I'm sorry, not now because he's stuck in hospital, but it would have been the easiest thing in the world. They've got private jets at their disposal. They could easily have arranged a rendezvous, and don't tell me that it's happened and they haven't told us.

If it had happened, we would have known about it. And the idea that Thomas Markle is now in goodness knows what sort of state. He's lost his leg. Heaven knows if he'll even survive the whole thing. And he still hasn't met his son-in-law. He hasn't met his grandchildren. And he's completely estranged from his awful shitty daughter. I mean, look at him, the poor man.

He has done nothing to deserve the treatment that she meets out to him. Okay, he made a bit of a mistake. If you're not used to dealing with the media, it's very easy to be tripped up. you know, you're media savvy. We're relatively media savvy now. But if you're not, it's terribly easy to be manipulated. And he was manipulated. And she can't...

I just don't even think he did something wrong. I'm sorry, I might be in a minority here. No, he didn't. This was a woman who used to show up to London, right? When she was a delister looking for a rich bloke or a famous bloke after her divorce, she was on the manhunt and she hit the jackpot of Prince Harry. And she used to call the paparazzi everywhere that she was going.

So what on earth did Thomas Markle do wrong? He's a Hollywood guy. He's a film guy. You know what they're like in Los Angeles. Everyone's calling the Papps all the time. He's like, I'm being pictured in all of these unflattering shots. I want a slice of the pie. Sorry, to this day, I don't even think he did something wrong.

I really don't. He wasn't attacking his daughter. He wasn't attacking his son-in-law. He was trying to get pictures of himself out there. And I think Megan used it, Neil, because deep down, She was embarrassed about her father. Her father didn't fit the narrative, did he? He was a white guy.

And she didn't want that, did she? Because the whole narrative at that time was about a black woman marrying into the British royal family. So it suited her purposes to have Doria Raglan there. But let's just remember, Neil, that's her mother, by the way. Doria Raglan wasn't around for all of her teenage years when Thomas Markle raised her solo. Paid for her to go to university, Neil.

About $750,000, we have. told. Now he's in a hospital in the Philippines and, you know, she's still not sent him a penny, not a penny. You're absolutely right, Dan. What's a creature she hears, she's grotesquely inhumane, in my view. No really humane person would ever behave towards a father, particularly one that had done so much for her in her early years, get her career off the ground and forms the foundation of everything that she's achieved for herself since. But I mean, she is a super narcissist of cosmic proportions and an archmedia manipulator herself, of course. She knows very well how to generate publicity for herself.

Again, the grotesque example that you quoted of the Balenciaga show in Paris and with the Alma Tunnel and the background and all the rest of it. appalling that was, you think of the hurt that she's prepared to cause close members of her own family just in order to feed her personal frenzy for publicity and wanting greater acceptance which she can then monetise, because that's ultimately what it's all about as well. Of course, she's a publicity junkie herself, but basically it's the money that she really wants. And she's been enormously successful on the back of zero talent in my view why Netflix are prepared to pay huge sums of money

to have her as a post of girl, God knows. Oh, that's not anymore. That's the thing, because it's tanked. And also, you know, at the same time, she's got a series being released for Christmas. But of course, Christine, she doesn't call it Christmas. She calls it the holidays, you know, because it's not woke to use the word Christmas. So she's got to say holidays.

And she's saying, oh, you know, the holidays are all about my family and all about nostalgia. And it's like, bitch, your father is currently lying in a hospital. having just lost his leg, do not talk to me about family. But Christine, I want to ask you about this whole Princess Diana thing, right? Because it's actually truly twisted now when you look at the way. I mean, Neil talks about media manipulation. I completely agree.

But it's also been emotional manipulation of Prince Harry. I mean, remember, this is a woman who wore Princess Diana's perfume on the early dates with Prince Harry, but pretended to know nothing about her, even though that she had read Andrew Morton's book. I mean, anyone, I'm about the same age as Megan Markle, anyone of our era was very much impacted by the death of Princess Diana. And I just feel it's twisted the way that she has,

even in the latter days of their marriage, tried to say, oh, you know, Diana spoke to me in a dream, for example. It's all about, I think, emotionally manipulating her husband. I really do. No, I mean, you're right. I mean, the photographs that are rolling at the moment, I mean, they are a stark reminder of how she tries to model herself on Diana. Constantly.

I'm as beautiful. I'm as lovely. I want to be the people's princess just like she was. I mean, it's hideous. But I think going back to what you said earlier, I think you're 100% right. She is embarrassed about her father. She is embarrassed because he relatively humble background. He was living in relatively humble circumstances when she hit the jackpot

and hit the media, and she just didn't want him to be shown. People would have warmed, and they have warmed to Thomas Barkle. She is so wrong. What they hate is her manipulation and her steely determination that it's all about me, me, me, look at these pictures that are rolling. It's astonishing. I know, she watches Diana, and she plans her outfits. I mean, because one or two or even three or four, you could put it down to a coincidence.

right but there's no coincidence when you actually look at the plethora of outfits there and the idea that she thinks that we're interested in how she makes jam and biscuits i mean those i haven't watched those videos which he doesn't do of course oh yeah and by the way you can't even call it jam because there's not enough sugar content it's a spread it's a fruit spread because it's so runny and awful but you can't you can't get away without seeing some of it because it pops up on news items and things and it is so sickly ghastly she must be she's totally self-delusional how she possibly thinks that people are taken in by her i think she's a hideous woman absolutely hideous and i'm not about physically she's hideous inside she's hideous in here yeah well i mean one of her biggest

crimes in my view is her ruination of prince harry himself because when he was younger and before he met her. He was one of the most popular members of the royal family. Well, he was. There were, there were polls. And it's actually astonishing when you think about how unpopular he is today. But Prince Harry was the only bloke who, for a regular period of time, according to YouGov, was actually more popular than the late Queen Elizabeth the second. And look, let's move on, because this is connected at number seven in our countdown of the union jackasses of 2025, as chosen by outspoken viewers, it is Prince Harry.

So Christine Hamilton, do you agree with what Neil is saying about what's happened to the delusional Duke? I'm surprised that Harry is higher up than Megan, frankly, because I just think he's a innocent porn in a way. I mean, not particularly innocent, but it's like a cat and a mouse. She plays with him, like a cat plays with a mouse

and he can't get away. he's thick, isn't he? I mean, he really is. Look at him, honestly. He's been captivated by her. I mean, I'm sure, you know, she's ostensibly an attractive woman, if you like that sort of thing.

He's been completely captivated by her, and now he is utterly manipulated by her. I mean, the rumours are that they don't really live much together in the Monteschito mansion. He lives somewhere down the road with somebody else. I don't mean he's having an affair, just somebody else's house. They've got all these places at their disposal.

think he's a, I mean, it's a pathetic, frankly. He's a pathetic specimen of a man. He allows himself. He allows her to get away with all this appalling manipulation. What, I mean, what does it do to him when he sees his wife looking like his mother? Mm, yeah. And Neil, this is the problem, though, isn't it? She has trapped him because all the year we have heard about Harry talking about setting up this rival royal court in the United Kingdom.

to challenge his brother. He's challenged the security as well. And it looks like he is actually going to get it, which I think is very disturbing. But I'm sorry, Neil. If you were happy, as they claim to be in Montecito, he wouldn't be wanting to come back here. It is the surest sign that this is a miserable marriage.

He cannot stand his time in Montecito. I mean, I've reported this now for over a year. But he's trapped. he's trapped because he lost everything he can't admit that he was wrong so what he's going to do is spend increasing amounts of time in the united kingdom away from megan knowing full well that regardless of what the spin is neal that woman don't want to be here okay because she's not stupid she knows she is despised here there was that moment outside st paul's cathedral do you remember this during the late queen's platinum jubilee where she was booed and that was it that was it

This is not a woman who is going to be spending time in the United Kingdom. Prince Harry is that's not a sign of a happy marriage. I'm sorry. It's a deeply unhappy marriage, but she has trapped him, Neil. Absolutely. And no wonder, Backing Palace staff used to call him the hostage because that's exactly what's happened to it. He's been taken hostage by her, kidnapped, if you like.

And it is a pathetic spectacle. I know he's just besotted with a God knows why. And personally, I prefer a woman with a bit of. Flesh on the bones, like Christine. Not that much, Fletch, thank you very much, Neil. But I know this is all a matter of taste, but there you go. But no, I think you're absolutely right. She has no interest whatsoever in being in cold, rainy Britain,

where Hollywood glitz is not available to her at every opportunity. She's never been interested in anything else other than the glitzy world of L.A. and Hollywood. and she has dragged Harry along in her slipstream using him and his contacts and the publicity that can be generated from it to benefit her own career if you can call it a career and that's what's going to happen I feel sorry for him in a way I mean it's difficult to feel sorry from the way he's behaved in recent years but if you think of it as a case of kind of diminished responsibility where he's being manipulated by this Cruella DeVille creature that he's shacked up with, then I suppose you

can feel a bit sorry for him. But if he were able to reconnect with his old family, then I think that would be a very good thing for him. So she's the one that stands in the way of all of this. And she'll never let him go so long as he can be of use to her career. Do you remember, Dan, when they first planned to go off to L.A. etc., we, the press, the general public, all said, oh, gosh, Harry's going to miss British life, he's going to miss the royal family, he's going to miss his service life, he's going to miss all his service pals. You know, he was in Afghanistan. He's going to miss A, B, C, he's going to miss Rainey Britain. I mean, you know, and I think Neil's absolutely right. he does, I think he would love to come back, but she is just so, I mean, he isn't welcome by a large proportion of the British public, and I include myself, I don't want to see him back on British soil, he can jolly well, stew in America for the rest of my life, come back

when I'm dead, frankly. But she would get a very hostile reception. She wouldn't be able to go out in public that much without bodyguard. No wonder he's worried about their security when they come over here. No, I think it is very sad. I don't, I use, to feel sorry for him. I don't anymore. I mean, the man's an utter wimp. He's a complete and utter wimp. He's allowed to be dragged away from the things he loved, you know. And there's no excuse for the way that he treated his family. There really isn't. And especially the late Queen Elizabeth II, especially the late Prince Philip. And let's just not forget, Catherine, while she was battling cancer, and King Charles, while he is battling.

cancer, there's something uniquely twisted about treating sick family members in that manner. We are into the big countdown of the worst union jackasses of 2025. Every single day, the outspoken audience vote in their millions for who they have decided as the worst Britain in the world today. What you don't know is that we collate every single vote and we have put together this extraordinary countdown, nearly into the top five, lots of labour on the list. But before we get there at number six, it's the leader of the Liberal Democrats, Ed Davy. To my superstar panel, Christine and Neil Hamilton. Neil Hamilton, Ed Davey, started the year as a joke with all of these ludicrous stunts. But indeed, I would argue he is a very nefarious force on British politics,

given he completely dismisses the Islamist threat to our country and is doing his damnedest, Neil, to destroy our relationship with President Donald Trump. Yeah, indeed. And he quite explicitly wants to take Britain back into the EU. I know we hardly ever left it in reality, but he wants to reverse the result of the referendum, without another referendum, by the way. So he could be dismissed as just an absurd clown, but it's worse than that. And he's the one who still holds up for trans rights and so on.

Do you remember when he was on that radio show and was it Nick Ferrari you asked him, do you believe that a woman can have a penis to which his answer was? Clearly, of course. So here's a man who lives in a world of delusion himself. But it's extraordinary how the Lib Dems still stagger along onto 11 or 12% of the vote. And usually in well-heeled middle-class constituencies, they get MPs elected. You can't imagine anybody would, in their right minds, vote for a party led by somebody who's as clownish and idiotic as Ed Davy. But there it is.

I don't find his antics at all amusing. They're just embarrassing. Totally agree, Christine Hamilton, your view. exactly. They are deeply embarrassing. I mean, it doesn't matter because I'm not a member of the Lib Dems, et cetera, et cetera, and nobody would think that I was a supporter of them. But it is embarrassing that the leader of one of our main political parties, because that's what they are, behaves in that childish way.

He says, he justifies it apparently by saying, I don't get noticed otherwise. Well, come on, mate, do something, say something sensible. But, you know, the last election, the Liberals, they mean, they swept the board all over the place. People, a lot of Tories couldn't face voting. for the Tories because they'd done such an appalling the last 14 years had been so grim and this for whatever reason,

but they couldn't vote for the Conservatives. They couldn't bring themselves to vote Labour. So what do you do? You vote Lib Dem. Some people voted Reform, but they, I mean, they swept the board in the way we're in the South West, North Wiltshire. They swept the board down in our part of the world. They completely did.

And, you know, if we're not careful, they'll do it again next time. But reform now have got time to come up on the rails and get themselves bedded in. But you know, the Lib Dems, they've been terribly clever in politics. They've been the underdogs for all these years, and they were the ones who invented cracked pavement politics, and they got people in at local council level, and reform have learnt the lesson, and they're doing the same now.

Get people elected to local councils, get them to take an interest in people's little problems, big to them, but basically little problems. And that's how they've done it, and they've worked their way out very successfully. But, I mean, I still think for a large number of people, people, the Libyms are a protest vote. Yes, indeed. Indeed. Very good point.

Okay, we are into the top five and this is where things get juicy. The top five union jackasses of 2025 and at number five, it's our dear leader who we must not criticize unless we want to be locked up, slippery, stammer, the most unpopular prime minister in our history,

Neil Hamilton. It's very hard to think that this time next year we'll be talking about him as Prime Minister. Yeah, I mean, it is extraordinary. I mean, he is the most boring man in the world, isn't he? He has no political instincts or skills whatsoever. He's guaranteed to press the wrong button every time, isn't he? He is a congenital lawyer, as they say.

And he finds the mindset of a successful politician absolutely impossible to understand, let alone replicate. Again, in a way, he's so dismal, you almost feel sorry for him. I don't feel sorry for him at all, of course, because of the enormous damage which he's inflicted upon our country and continues to day in and day out. But the Labour Party are obviously very, very desperate to get rid of him now by any means that they possibly can,

all the stuff about Andy Burnham over the weekend and so on. There's clearly, you know, leadership campaigns that are getting off the government, ground, West Streeting, Angela Rainer, the creature from the Black Lagoon coming back to claim her patrimony. There are so many undercurrents going on here that it's difficult to imagine that Starma can last for the rest of this Parliament. He is obviously a wounded creature. He'll just limp along. But if he survives, it'll be because there are so many people competing for the title that they neutralise each other, cancel each other out. But that's a great accolade, isn't it, for success in politics, that I'm not as bad as all the others. And he survives because they all kill each other.

So that's the modern Labour Party. Hopefully they'll all be consigned to oblivion in the next election. Christine, worst prime minister in history? Oh, I know. It's wonderful, isn't it? I mean, it's probably getting even worse. I mean, the Labour Party quite, I mean, look at the number of Tory prime ministers we had in recent years, of the system that the Tory party

have. It's much easier to get rid of a Prime Minister. For Labour, as Neil has mentioned, all these other candidates, you have to get 80 MPs coalescing round one person. You've either got to get 80 for Wes, 80 for Angela, 80 for Andy. And that is a much higher hurdle.

And I think that's the only reason he survived because the hurdle is quite so big. But honestly, he can't last... I feel sorry for him. He's like a sort of, you know, a wounded animal, really, who's being brought down and they're all snapping at his heels. They've inflicted some serious wounds on him.

But, God, he's boring. I mean, he is so boring. He's not inspiring. He hasn't got an ounce of charisma. I, yeah. And we've had scandal after scandal after scandal under his... And I mean, his wife looks more miserable by the day. It's like the whole country feels the same way

that Lady Victoria does about her husband. She wants out, Christine. Well, hang on. I mean, I'm sure, I'm perfectly certain she wants out of being Mrs. Prime Minister, but I wouldn't go so far as to say she wants out of being Mrs. Starmour, although she's not. She's Lady Starrma. But, you know, I think people are going back to another point.

Really, Christine, look at her face. Look at her face. I think she's utterly miserable. Well, we all take bad photographs at times. We really do. But do you remember when Rishi Sunak, surprised everybody by announcing the election. I think he just, I have had enough. Yeah. I simply can't be bothered to do this any longer. It's awful. So I think maybe Keir Stama

will get to that phase. And yet, well, you've picked all the right photographs, of course, of her looking grim in her Lord Ali, her Lord Ali dresses, do you know, by the way. Yeah, maybe Stama's dipped into his own pockets now. Okay, let's move on. This is an even worse man at number four on our list of Union Jackasses of 2025. Sadiq Khan, London's middle. And seriously, Neil Hamilton, this is the right decision for him to be so high on the list. Because any time anyone points out the fact that he has actually single-handedly destroyed the best city in the world, do you know what he does, Neil, rather than address any of the statistics, any of the crime, any of what we can see with our own eyes, you know, tube carriages deface now every single one. I've been personally mugged twice in Sadiq Khan's London,

rather than actually deal with any of those issues, Neil, the fact that women are raped on an industrial scale. Do you know what he does? He accuses you of racism and Islamophobia and talks about Donald Trump. He is such a terrible force in this country, Neil. And I really do say this country because it's bigger than London. It is bigger than London. He is representative of the Islamist class that actually wants to destroy our culture. I think he's very evil.

You know, he's worse than incompetent. He knows exactly what he's doing. 100%. And he has ruined the greatest city in the world. I can't bear to go to London anymore. I really can't. It's so hard getting around. Everything you see offends the eye.

When we were young and moved to London in the 1970s, the country was quite a state then nationally. But London was a delightful series of, villages and nowadays it's just an amorphous mass where everything is so difficult so expensive and it's just impossible to get around and do things and as you say the crime is is appalling fortunately we've never been mugged but i mean i have had a car stolen once but but that's why i can't face going to london anymore we prefer to to live out in the in the country and i suppose close our eyes to it, but obviously we don't close our eyes to it because I'm shocked

and appalled to see London decline into a morass that we see today. Donald Trump's absolutely right to Targis Khan as the world's worst mayor, because I do believe that he is. And then we saw Christine this year the people of New York express the same type of suicidal empathy with the election of a Muslim mayor who will destroy the city in the same way, Christine. Well, yeah, I mean, it goes back to what I was saying earlier about MPs, that there are far too many MPs whose loyalty is not to this country. And Khan is an example of someone. I do not believe that his loyalty is to London. I do not believe that his loyalty is to the British people. His loyalty is to his faith. And I mean, it is astonishing how he has gone on and on and on.

But of course, I think the figure is that there's less than 50% of people who live in London were even born in this country, never mind born in London. They weren't even born in this country. So the Islamification of London is going ahead of pace. I mean, when I first came to London in the 70s, I lived near the King's Road. And the King's Road then was the most fabulous, fabulous, fabulous place to strut your stuff on a Saturday morning, as it were. And I bet you did. Oh, I did.

No, but I mean it was And Neil said London was a whole series of villages You know you were in the Battersea village The Chelsea Village whatever Villages all over the place And it was a fabulous city to live in I mean we do go to London occasionally Because there's a lot in London

Which you can't do anywhere else But I don't have any joy going to London No and it's totally changed And you were very lucky to have those years But I mean even me I've been in London since 2004 And it was a completely different place It was the best city in the world

I was one of those people that absolutely signed up to the philosophy of if I'm bored of London, I'm bored of life. And now it's like, no, no, no. If you choose to stay in London, you are potentially clinically insane. Okay, let's get into the top three. At number three of our worst union jackasses of 2025, it's Mad Miliband. Yes, that's right. The Environment Secretary, who slippery Starma was unable to remove from his job. this year. And Neil, when you look at individuals in this government who are destroying our quality

of life, our way of life, our economy, he has to be top of the list. He is a zealot. He is utterly deranged when it comes to his eco-extremism. And the damage he is doing to us, Neil, is potentially going to be a reversible. Exactly. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. In the 18th century, Britain led the world with the Industrial Revolution. Ed Miliband is leading the world in the de-industrial revolution. He has wrecked our industries, all our heavy industries, our manufacturing industries that depend upon energy prices to remain competitive. He has wrecked them all.

Steel, glass, concrete. Even now pharmaceuticals are under threat because our energy costs for companies are the highest in the world. Four times what they pay in the United States, for example. for industrial electricity and it's all because milliband has this crazy idea that britain which contributes 0.7% of world co2 emissions if you think this is important at all that i don't but we produce less than 1% of the world's CO2 emissions china produces over 30% and 60% of their pioneers are met by their coal-fired power stations and they've got 250 of them currently in construction, not just in China, but also around the world.

They're exporting coal-fired power stations to other parts of the world. And so they couldn't care less about global emissions. We've achieved our cuts in CO2 emissions by exporting our industries to other countries so that they can have our CO2. This is the lunacy of Miliban. He is impoverishing our people. You know, it's the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in our lifetimes. and he is personally responsible.

He was responsible for the Climate Change Act of 2008 under which all this madness is being forced through. Of course, the Tories were complicit in that, whether it was his bill. And even then, in the impact assessment to the bill back in 2008, it was estimated to cost 18 billion a year. Well, we now have the figures it's 25 billion a year

that we, as taxpayers and consumers, being forced to pay up for his crazy schemes for wind and solar you know britain is one of the worst countries in the world solar energy the world bank produced a study of 250 countries who's the most suitable the top of the list was Namibia which is a great help isn't it because nobody lives there but at the bottom of the list was the republic of ireland and we were 249 next to the republic of ireland as the least suitable country in the world for solar energy and yet there there is a proposal to put two and a half thousand acres of solar panels around us where we live in North Wiltshire, all of which will be paid for by the British taxpayer and consumer, because none

of these projects will ever get off the ground, were it not for taxpayer subsidies and companies being forced to buy renewable electricity at twice the price of gas-fired electricity. And the man is an absolute lunatic, and he should be put in a straitjacket and put away forever. Do you agree, Christy? Of course I do. I mean, we are personally. affected by his lunacy because as Neil says there's a plan for this vast solar industrial or I mean it is horrific but we're not alone I mean there was one was approved only the other day up in Yorkshire in David Davis's patch you know two and a half thousand three thousand acres worth I mean if I thought that covering productive industrial productive farmland was going to save the planet then I wouldn't mind so much okay we've got to do our bit it's just bad luck that it's on our front doorstep back doorstep But there we are. But, I mean, it isn't.

It isn't going to have the slightest. We could close down this entire country, the whole of the UK. And China, all our outputs would be taken up by China in, I think, it's four weeks. So close down the whole of this country. Well, Ed Miliband is trying to close down the whole of the country. And do you know the hypocrisy of that man? We're all, anyone who objects to all his clean energy bollocks is a nimbie. what did his wife do when where they live in smart-ass Islington somewhere

they were going to put up a block of flats further down their road which she didn't think would fit in with all their beautiful genteel probably Georgian terraced houses so she objected she was a nimbie but that's fine but anybody else who objects to his plans I think he's seriously short of pins up here of a bacon sandwich and we know we don't want to see him eat one of them Okay, we're nearly there. We are nearly into the Union Jackass of 2025. Don't go anywhere.

Who do you think is going to take the top spot? This is according to your votes throughout the year, remember? But the runner up may surprise some of you. It's Narenda Kaur. Christine Hamilton. What do you make of your favorite woman being so high up at the list? Well, I mean, I nearly fainted when I saw that. I thought, what a hell has she done?

She will be thrilled because she is relevant. She is relevant. She'll be horrified that she's not number one. She will think that it's wonderful. Her big fear in life is being overlooked. I mean, look at, or she's never recovered from not being chosen for Strictly, because on Strictly, they want people who the audience are going to warm to, and you cannot warm to Narendra.

I mean, look at her. She is the most hideous woman. And I'm not talking about the way she looks. I'm just talking about she's a bit like Megan Markle, you know. She's just desperate to be noticed, to be important, to be relevant. And she's none of those things. She is noticed, but for all the wrong reasons. I don't know what she's done over the years.

I know a few of the things, but I don't quite know how she's managed to be quite so high up the list. But, I mean, it's extraordinary. Well, I mean, it's because I think, Neil, they're a race-baiting stunts. So do you remember this year, for example, she went to Italy and she said, oh, Italian food is awful, and they don't have any foreign restaurants.

And then she was actually ambushed by Rob Rinder on the Jeremy Vine Show, who showed you actually there's all of these restaurants. And so it was just a grift. It was just completely made up, near. Yeah, indeed. Well, I've had the misfortune of appearing on panels with her on GB News years ago.

and she is the most irritating person you could possibly sit next to but you know it's obvious what her game was as you say she's a grifter really she's manufacturing a personality for herself on being annoying in order to get publicity and create a career on the back of that doesn't seem to be too successful if i may say so but nevertheless so i don't see her any longer i don't know where she operates on what she does. X, I guess. X, which is actually a free speech platform, and Elon Musk won't be trying to cancel her,

even though she'd love anyone on the right to be canceled. You're quite right, Dan. I think it was you who said it. She is. She's a race baiter. She wants you to say something racist about her. It's what she tries to get people to do. She's...

Race baiting and grifting. Horrific. Okay, so who do you think is at number one? Have you worked it out yet? We have counted down the top 49 Union Jackassers of 2025 as voted for by you every single day here on Outspoken. Thank you for your votes, by the way. I love the interaction.

And so this is your choice. The biggest Union Jackass of 2025 is none other than Rachel Thieves. Rachel from accounts. However you want to brand the Chancellor of the Exchequer, And I think, Neil, the moment that probably soed this up was, do you remember, when she burst into tears and started sobbing during PMQs? And it's like, Rachel, that's how we all feel about what you are doing to us, what you were doing to our economy, what you are doing to our taxes. It is a disgrace.

We are sobbing, Rachel. And the fact that you sob, because you were worried about losing your damn job rather than destroying the economy, says it all. all. But you know, you mustn't overstate her qualifications down. She's not Rachel from accounts. She's Rachel from customer complaints. She didn't even get as far as the accounts department. That is the truth. She doctored her CV to try and make us think that she was this great economist from the Bank of England. But all she did was collate complaints to the Bank of England. My goodness, the complaints bag must be full today if it never was before. as a result of the calamity, which she's visited upon us all in the United Kingdom.

And she is a kind of bull who carries her own China shop around with her, smashing everything wherever she goes. She's completely and utterly clueless, totally unfitted to be Chance the Exchequer. She's in the sort of Diane Abbott League, I think, of incompetence. At least Diane Abbott you can laugh at. Rachel Reeves, and she looks as though she drinks a pint of vinegar for breakfast every morning. I think. She's such a miserable creature. And that hectoring voice as well. Yeah, robot. And she's so self-righteous, like all these people. I mean, Margaret Thatcher once said to

Christine, Christine, socialist women are awful. Well, this one is worse than awful. Oh, my God. Christine, is that true? You've got to tell me about that, Christine. I love that. Oh, yes. It was one of my favorite moments. I found myself all alone with Margaret in her room behind the speaker's chair where they, Prime Minister has his or her room. I know, and Neil went off to vote with another colleague who was there. It was just after he'd won his libel action against the BBC, and she invited Neil and Gerald Howeth, who was the other litigant, to go and have a share a drink and a whatever.

Anyway, they went off to vote. She was paired, and so I had this wonderful 10 minutes, quarter of an hour, all alone with the Great Lady, and she vouched to me exactly. She patted me on, she said, Christine, socialist women are. awful. Do you know what? We can't better that, Christine. I mean, that is literally the perfect description of Reeves. Exactly. But just to be serious, I mean, that was serious, but to be, go back to Rachel

Reeves, what really, I can't forgive her about else. I mean, she's destroying the British economy. She's destroying people's lives. I mean, if you own a pub or you go to your local pub, you know, it's, it'll kind of, she's doing all that. But what she is doing, is so reprehensible to the, what is the word, for women. I can't get the word properly. She said, oh, I'm the very first female Chancellor of the Exchequer. Well, I'm sorry, you're about the worst Chancellor of the Exchequer.

I can think of. Neil will know probably worse ones. But she has let down the side. She has completely let down the sisterhood. She lied. She lied about her chess business. She lied about this. She lies about that.

And if she was really upset about something else that day in the, Commons. Frankly, tell us about it. Tell us, we don't mind. You know, if you really had, if your father was dying or your sister was whatever. But there was nothing. There was nothing. Apart from her job, her career. That's it. That's all that matters to her. Okay.

Worse Union Jackass of 20. Just very, very briefly, did you see her the other day on the Treasury Select Committee when she basically said, Starma is in this with me. I didn't do it alone. He was there every step of the way. I go, he goes. Exactly. Now, totally,

It's a bit like Prince Harry, Megan Markle. You know, those two despise each other, but they're tied to each other. They are going down together. But look, Christine, Neil, adore having you as part of Outspike. Thank you for everything you've done this year. But tell me about your Christmas plans. Where are you going to be? Do you host, do you cook?

What do you get up to? We are going to have Christmas home alone. It's terrific. For the first time in many years, we haven't got up. Christmas and they're canky on the cards. So we've made ourselves available for invitations out. What Neil means is that we haven't got a houseful. We normally have a houseful from the old to the young

and it's absolute bedlam and you can imagine what it's like for me in the kitchen. But no, we are homeless. So we can wake up on Christmas morning with nothing pressing to do, nothing to, no turkey, no nothing to worry about. We're going out for, I don't know what time. We're invited for about one o'clock a thing. And then we're going out on Boxing Day. again and so we have we've just we're just being invited out it'll be lovely and then we've got all the

family arriving on the day after boxing day so that's when it'll be that's when we'll have our Christmas at home as long as we have enough pigs in blankets and gravy everybody's fine amazing well look have an absolutely wonderful Christmas we will speak in the new year my superstar panel the wonderful Christine and Neil Hamilton and a Merry Christmas to all your views Absolutely. Thank you both. Thank you both. And of course, if you are going to be on your own on Christmas Day, as lots of people are, and I get that, we'd love you to be part of what we're doing on outspoken on Christmas Day. So Lady Colin Campbell is going to be here at midday with me to hand out her annual awards. And then at 5pm, a big special with lots of our favourite religious leaders

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