Dan Wootton Outspoken - EVIL JESS PHILLIPS BLAMES TOMMY ROBINSON & ELON MUSK FOR UK DESTRUCTION BUT IGNORES ISLAM

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The government’s demonisation of young white men and decision to wilfully disregard the growing threat of Islamism on the safety of our country – which Elon Musk has branded th...e rape of Britain – has exploded. Jess Phillips – the corrupted minister responsible for the Pakistani rape gang inquiry cover up – name checked Andrew Tate six times and Elon Musk eight times in an interview with Sly News, while failing to mention migrant culture or immigration even once. But the fightback is on because Dan reveals the very first Outspoken Christmas message, which will be delivered by a fearless politician who tackles the smearing of young straight white men directly. Well there is no one better to respond today than Britain’s number one political prisoner Lucy Connolly, who joins us alongside her Conservative councillor husband Raymond Connolly for the couple’s first ever joint interview. PLUS: Two tier justice in Britain is out of control, with Zarah Sultanas leading deranged scenes of leftie crime outside HMP Bronzefield in support of the Palestine Action terrorists. AND: Another BBC bombshell, as Tom Skinner plans to join Donald Trump in suing the fake news broadcaster, claiming they conspired to see him evicted first from Strictly Come Dancing after his meeting with JD Vance. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry caught up in a new race row as respected royal author Tina Brown claims he described Archie as his “little African child”, prompting a massive eruption from Montecito. We’ll reveal all the latest with royal YouTube sensation According2Taz. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No sphere, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 386. And breaking right now, the government's demonisation of young white men and its decision to willfully disregard the growing threat of Islamism on the safety of our country, which Elon Musk has branded the Rape of Britain, has now exploded. Jess Phillips, the corrupted minister responsible for the Pakistani Rape Gang Inquiry cover-up, name-checked Andrew Tate six times and Elon Musk eight times in an interview with Sly News and Beth Rigby while failing to mention migrant culture or immigration even once. There will be soon about Andrew Tate. Second, not to give Andrew Tate all the credit. Elon Musk, actually, like, when he had a go at me.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Elon Musk is the reason when Elon Musk was having a pop at me. It's got nothing to do with Elon Musk. But the fight back is on, because today I am very excited to reveal Rupert Lowe will be tackling it all by delivering the very first outspoken Christmas message, which we will preview very shortly. To the young white men who feel ignored and insulted, I want to speak directly to you. For too long, young white men in this country have been treated
Starting point is 00:01:34 as if your concerns don't matter. Now, two-tier justice in Britain is out of control, with Zara Sultanah, leading deranged scenes of lefty crimes outside HMP Bronzefield in support of the Palestine Action Terrorists. The blood pressure of 127, they're not allowing medical professionals. They're not allowing medical professionals to be able to see a woman who has 15% off their women. No one's threatening anyone.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Someone who actually needs an ambulance there to hospital there. People have died in this prison. Look at what you are doing! Look at what you are doing! Look at what you are calling! I, why are you fucking doing? To tear Britain, well, there is no one better to respond today than Britain's number one political prisoner, Lucy Connolly,
Starting point is 00:02:38 who joins us alongside our friend, her Conservative counsellor husband, Raymond Connolly, for the couple's first ever joint interview. Also coming up on the show today, Lucy will reveal why she returned to prison yesterday, it's not what it seems, and another BBC bombshell, as Tom Skinner plans to join Donald Trump in suing the fake news broadcaster, claiming they conspired to see him evicted first from Strictly come dancing after his meeting with J.D. Vance. Then, in the uncanceled after show on Substack, Prince Harry is caught up in a new race row as respected royal. author Tina Brown, claims he described Archie as his little African child prompting a massive eruption from Montecito. We'll reveal all of the latest on this story. To me, this is a story about hypocrisy, by the way, with Royal YouTube Sensation according to Taz. You can sign up to watch
Starting point is 00:03:36 at www. outspoken.com. We'll also reveal the worst Britain in the world this week, taken from your union jackass nominees across the week. Going head to head, Zach Polanski, the tit whisperer, the Green Party leader, Dr. Scholar, the race beta in chief, and Pearz Morgan, the worst boomer in the United Kingdom. So get voting. You can do so on the posts tab on YouTube. I will reveal the winner and your comments at the end of the show. But now, let's go. As we approach Christmas Day in 2025, you are going to be smacked over the head. With a a whole load of the usual platitudes. Plattitudes that you understand at your core do not reflect the perilous state of our country or the fear, the fury, the frustration felt by patriots as the
Starting point is 00:04:36 elite class against our wishes, change our demographics forevermore via mass immigration while overseeing and failing to prevent, I think, purposefully, an illegal invasion of our southern border by Islamists, terrorists, rapists and murderers who literally want to destroy our civilization. But Slippery Stama's regime and the MSM are going to tell you this Christmas, don't worry. Don't worry your little head about it.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Diversity and multiculturalism remains our biggest strengths. Don't worry. The issue is actually misogynistic young men. All we need to do is crack down on the real enemy. You know, those real enemies, Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate, by banning social media and all will be okay. And actually, let's make criticizing Islam illegal while we're at it, right? Sadly, with the many issues besetting his troubled reign, King Charles has not appropriately reflected the horror of his subjects, as he seems to promote Islam over Christianity, despite being the head of the Church of
Starting point is 00:05:48 England. So again, as a royalist, as a monarchist, I don't like saying this, but I have little faith his Christmas message will deliver what we need to hear. Then there's Channel 4's alternative Christmas message, which for decades now has illustrated the real disdain in which the elite class and the MSM treat British Christians even on Christmas Day. In 2006, Channel 4 decided it must be delivered by a veiled Muslim woman. In 2008, the president of Iran. In 2012, the hard-left comedian, Adam Hills. In 2015, Abdullah Kordi, the father of a young boy, killed by illegally entering Europe on a small boat.
Starting point is 00:06:42 In 2019, John Burko, the Ramona Speaker of the House trying to subvert British democracy. And in 2020, the lowest of the low, a deep fake version of Queen Elizabeth the 2nd. You get the point right. You get the point about what this channel is all about. So given 2025 has been the first full year of outspoken, where now I'm proud to say the biggest daily independent UK news show on YouTube, YouTube, the world's biggest broadcaster, I wanted to launch our own annual Christmas tradition. The outspoken Christmas message will not clash with King Charles.
Starting point is 00:07:24 After all, I still believe in the institution of monarchy. I think it would be wrong to do what Channel 4 does and go head to head with the King. So instead it will be broadcast as we do every single weekday at 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. and I am delighted that this year it will be delivered by Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe, a man who has become the standard bearer for patriotic Brits in 2025 with his uncompromising message of putting the English first by introducing mass deportations. Filmed at his farm in Gloucestershire, Rupert's outspoken Christmas message is one of hope,
Starting point is 00:08:07 hope that we can take Britain back and preserve our Christianity. preserve our capitalist society, but only if there is dramatic political action. As we gather for Christmas this year, I want to speak to you not just as a politician, but as a fellow countryman, someone who cherishes Britain, its people and its traditions. And one of those traditions, perhaps the most important of all, is that Britain is a Christian country. Our laws, our culture, our sense of right and wrong, all flow from our Christian heritage. That is not something to hide or be ashamed of.
Starting point is 00:08:56 We should celebrate our Christian roots, embrace our Christian roots, and preserve our Christian roots. Rupert will speak directly to British women, too, arguing that we must make our country safe again with millions of deportations. To the mothers, grandmothers and daughters, so many of you now feel unsafe in your own communities, primarily due to the impact of mass immigration,
Starting point is 00:09:26 both legal and illegal. Your streets feel more dangerous, more unfamiliar, more menacing. You're told that your concerns are racist and unreasonable. I say no, this cannot continue. You deserve to feel safe in your own towns, safe in your own communities, safe with your own family, not harassed and intimidated by men who have no right to be in our country. We must make Britain safe again. How can we do that?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Deportations. Millions of deportations. That is worth fighting for. and fight for it we must. There are also messages to Britain's farmers and small business owners, but perhaps in the context of this week's news, Rupert will directly address Britain's young white men, assuring them that it is not racist or wrong to fight for your country.
Starting point is 00:10:34 To the young white men who feel ignored and insulted. I want to speak directly to you. For too long, young white men in this country have been treated as if your concerns don't matter. Your struggles don't count. And your identity is something to apologize for. That your love of your country is somehow racist and wrong. You've been told to stay quiet, to step aside, to accept being blamed for things you never did, and problems that you didn't create.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Rupert's outspoken Christmas message, and trust me, there are bombshells. We'll be broadcast in full at 5pm on Christmas Day. A week after we have been living in this clown world, this fake world of Netflix's adolescence where it's young white boys who might watch an Andrew Tate or Tommy Robinson video every now and then, And as a result, they're being blamed for making our country unsafe, rather than a religion that doesn't allow women to leave the house without everything but their eyes covered. That's the real misogyny.
Starting point is 00:11:53 At least Kemi Badenot called it out today, saying sexism classes are a distraction, British boys aren't the problem, and Labour must stop migrants coming to the UK from cultures that don't respect women instead of focusing on adolescence drama. But we have such imbeciles running. our government, like the man-hating Islam-appeasing Jess Phillips, who has already overseen a cover-up when it comes to the Pakistani Muslim rape gang inquiry. And in her interview with her close pal, her mate Beth Rigby on sly news, misogyny and violence against women came up, sure, but Phillips did not mention migrant cultures or immigration or Islam even once.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yet Andrew Tate was mentioned six times, and Elon Musk came up eight times. Watch. Andrew Tate is gone from the resumed of a fuck about Andrew Tate. Second not to give Andrew Tate all the credit. Elon Musk supporters, Elon Musk actually, like, when he had a go at me, Elon Musk is the reason when Elon Musk was having a pop at me. It's got nothing to do with Elon Musk. Indeed, Jess Phillips blamed Andrew Tate for the violence.
Starting point is 00:13:08 against women in this country. And notice here that she only brings up the murder of Sarah Everard, yet bypasses any mention of the murders committed by migrants. Watch. You talk about Andrew Tate, where when the Me Too movement started and women were all out there talking about exactly like, or when Sarah Everard was killed, and we talked about the kind of safety techniques we had to take,
Starting point is 00:13:34 and we all talked about the abuses that we suffered. Nobody was contextualising that for the young men in the country So they went online and found somebody who was And he didn't have their best interests at heart We have got to talk to young men About the things that they are saying First and forward we've got to stop them Seeing masses of violent misogyny
Starting point is 00:13:54 And instead of focusing on tackling The Disunited Kingdom's Weak Borders She announced that 2 million Will be spent on undercover police officers tracking fans of Andrew Tate online. We're going to try having online police officers, like undercover police officers online, looking at exactly where this goes.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Where does that go, actually, when Andrew Tate does that? What are the springoffs? What does it lead to? So having a police response is actually really important. So you're actually going to track people online as to what they say? And then see how that may or may not correlate. Look, we're going to have undercover police officers looking at violence against women and girls' crimes online.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Then Jess Phillips went on to say that Elon Musk, a man who she clearly despises with a visceral hatred. You can see it. And she goes on to say that Elon Musk had no influence in provoking a national inquiry into the rape gangs and that she was always going to do it. But his supporters would now say, say, yeah, but we now have a national inquiry into grooming gangs.
Starting point is 00:15:10 His supporters would say that, wouldn't they? Well, what do you say to them? I say that that's absolute rubbish. It's got nothing to do with Elon Musk. I mean, a long con, wouldn't it, that I dedicated my life to supporting victims of violence so that one day maybe Elon Musk might come along. Also, I think Louise Casey might have something to say about whether Elon Musk is the reason why we have a national inquiry.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Elon must support us, I've got to say, and not the people whose views I'm particularly troubled by. We had made it a manifesto commitment to half violence against women and girls in a decade. I didn't need pushing. It was going to be done. You're obviously still living rent-free. in Elon Musk's hat.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Am I? Because I don't go on his platform anymore, so I don't know. You don't know. No, you weren't, yes. You can deride Elon Musk all you want. But the world is only talking about what he has declared to be the rape of Britain because of X, because of his platform,
Starting point is 00:16:24 because of the fact he put a microscope on your government. Meanwhile, heinous crimes. I now ignored on a daily basis because they just don't fit the narrative. Even Sainsbury's supermarkets are no longer safe. Two horrendous examples. The first explained by Tommy Robinson. A Moroccan invader has been spared jail after he claimed he did not know it was illegal to film up women's skirts on the tube.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Iman Yanunusi, 21, carried out three upskirting offences at a bank station and a fourth at a Sainsbury's store. Tommy concludes, get them out. And then there's a case that horrifies me because the victim who died is actually a friend of a close pal of mine. And yesterday, Damesh Williams sentenced to just five years for killing Andrew Clark. he will spend only three years in prison before release.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Damesh killed Andrew because Andrew told him he couldn't cuss in front of him and his wife in the queue at a Beckenham-Sainzbury in South East London. The length of the sentence prompted members of Andrew's family in court to say this country is a joke. Another called the sentence a disgrace. I honestly just can't get my head around it. I mean, Andrew Clark literally was at that Sainsbury supermarket till with his wife for this monster, this animal, Damesh Williams, to return, to literally kill him in the supermarket.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And he gets less than three years in prison. What is happening to our society? And the left do not care. because they are now infiltrated by a true evil. And I'm not exaggerating. I mean, what else can explain Carol Vorderman's BFF? Supatansky, she's called. Reacting to the death of poor lumber,
Starting point is 00:18:46 after falling from a ladder while hanging union jacked flags on lamppost near his home, by writing sarcastically, oh dear, how sad, never mind. I repeat, the left do not care because they are infiltrated by evil. We once again look to the US and to Donald Trump, who has been brave enough, even this week to reveal the truth about the Islam threat. Let me take a moment to send the love and prayers to our entire nation. to the people of Australia, and especially all those affected by the horrific and anti-Semitic terrorist attack, and that's exactly what it is anti-Semitic, that took place on a Hanukkah celebration in Sydney.
Starting point is 00:19:45 What a terrible, terrible thing. We don't learn. We're joined in mourning all of those who were killed and were praying for the swift recovery of the wounded. Some are very horrifically wounded, as you probably know. All nations must stand together against the evil forces of radical Islamic terrorism, and we're doing that. Yes, we must. And you are President Trump. But we're not.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Slippery Stama is not. They're fighting a false war. They're fighting young white kids who watch Andrew Tate, because they're totally frustrated about what's happened to our disunited kingdom. They are not the real issue. Now, the superstar panel. And it is absolutely wonderful today to have Lucy Connolly and Raymond Connolly both back on outspoken, two of our favourite guests, although together for the first time in their first
Starting point is 00:20:55 joint interview. And of course, guys, I want to talk so much more about your year and we will do so later in the show because Lucy, it is just sometimes worth remembering. You were locked up last Christmas for a tweet. So we will get into all of that. But Lucy, I wanted to get your reaction first to Jess Phillips, who seems to be waging war, not on Islam, not on mass immigration, but this fantasy which the government has embraced as a result of this Netflix drama adolescence. And she seems totally obsessed with Andrew Tate and Elon Musk. And I'm sorry, Lucy, I do not believe it's Andrew Tate and Elon Musk who are making us unsafe for a single second. Do you? Absolutely not, Dan. And I'm not sure we've got enough time to talk about how I feel
Starting point is 00:21:54 about Jess Phillips and their latest stunt. When were they going to stop coming for our kids? Our British working class kids is, it just feels like they're coming for us and our children at every single point. And it's worth noting that Andrew Tate is not British Christian. He's Muslim. So I don't really know why he's a good example of this, really. Edie, you know, she's 13, she goes on YouTube and...
Starting point is 00:22:26 Your daughter. And she knows exactly who, yeah, my daughter, she knows exactly who Andrew Tate is. And she just takes the Mick out of him because we've brought her up properly. We've brought her up how to, you know, respect people, men and women, and treat people properly. And interestingly enough, obviously, adolescence came out,
Starting point is 00:22:42 didn't it, while I was in prison? And Edie watched it with my mum. And my mum said to her at the time, you know, she would talk about this, you know. Is there ever any boys in your class in your school that, you know, talk like this? And Edie was like, no, Nana. Really, there isn't. She says, you know, you can tell me, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:00 We can talk that they really don't Nana. You know, so my 13-year-old daughter has never come home from school or outplaying or whatever and said, oh, gosh, mum, do you know what such and such said to me today or, you know, regardless of, you know, whether they're British, not British or whatever. So yet again, they are attacking the wrong people, aren't they? This country, Christian culture and religion, doesn't, you know, promote women. Misogynistic. And it doesn't promote, you know, women being the smaller person and not being allowed to talk and speak out. And in the UK, women have as many rights as they do men, well, allegedly. But we do, you know, in this house, I'm sure Raymond agrees with that.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Of course. Right, I mean, how do you feel about this? Obviously, you're a conservative. It was actually refreshing for me to see Kemi Badernock. She's always got this issue right. She said, why are we talking about this TV show? She's like, I'm not watching it. It's not relevant to the political debate.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And today, I think she's actually revealed the elephant in the room, which is that unless we're speaking about the invaders, unless we're speaking about the migrants, unless we're speaking about the Islamism, then actually to have this whole strategy around misogyny is just totally nonsensical. Yeah, well, I've got great time for Kemi. I feel that she's a really nice person down to Earth.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I've heard a talk a few times locally, and I 100% agree with her opinions on this. It is a distraction. So I would definitely go with a lead I would, that's for sure. Totally. Absolutely. Absolutely. Then we come to our big announcement today. And I thought you too would probably be happy with this one because, of course, Rupert Lowe has been a real champion of your cause, Lucy,
Starting point is 00:25:08 over the course of the year. And he hosted you in Parliament for that debate about whether people should be locked up for social media posts. do you think he's the right choice to deliver our first outspoken Christmas message? And what did you think of our first preview that we showed in the Digest? Oh, well, there's no one better, is there? You know how fond I'm of Rupert and how, you know, most of the UK are very fond of Rupert. If you look at his statistics on social media, nobody has the following that Rupert has.
Starting point is 00:25:40 So they can say he's X, Y, Z as much as he want, but the statistics talk for themselves. No one has his following. So it's quite clear that, you know, everybody's with, you know, the majority are with Rupert. And interestingly enough, going back to this misogynistic thing and all of this, when I went to the debate, there was at times, so I think I was thinking, am I sitting in the wrong debate here? And there was an MP, Emily Darlington, for Labour. And she managed to get the name Andrew Tate in several times and accused, you know, other party, male parties of mansplaining things to her.
Starting point is 00:26:16 when one of the Conservatives MPs was reading out her some stats that, you know, about prison sentences that she didn't like, you know, that you're in the last two years, statistically, you're more likely to go to prison for a social media post than you are for rape. She didn't like that. So her response to him was, well, thank you for mansplaining that to me. And I just sat there thinking, how dare you? How dare you? How dare you talk to him like that? You know, you would go mad if the shoe was on the other foot, yet you think it's appropriate that you can speak. to a male MP like that in a debate. And the only evidence I saw of people talking down to someone else because there were, you know, a different, you know, there were male, not female, was the women female MPs at this debate. And I just sat there thinking, why for you mentioning Andrew Tate in a debate about should we be using prison as a punishment for social media posts? I mean, it's quite extraordinary that she managed to get that in there.
Starting point is 00:27:16 totally and they are obsessed they are completely obsessed with him right it's pretty powerful for him to actually speak i think directly to young white straight men because you have to admit there has been a demonization of that group in society over the past decade and rupert has emerged as a folk hero as a result Oh, definitely. I mean, you know, everybody knows who Rupert Lowe is now. I mean, when I first met him and, well, first, I first started to speak to him, people were concerned going, oh, he's so controversial, Raymond. I said, well, he's upsetting a lot of the, well, of the right people who I thought. But a lot of people, his support grows from strength to strength because people, he's something, he's a role model where people look up to. I know that they talk about people like Andrew Tate, well, then, I suppose, the left or whatever, they need to have their role models
Starting point is 00:28:26 to start hitting back at those people and get through to the young children. Exactly, like censorship is never the answer. It's never the answer. Let's engage in the debate. Let's host a stronger public square. But instead, what you do see is this push for censorship, this push to shut people down, this push to shut us up. And it was certainly part of the reason behind Lucy's J-Lie, because the message that it sent to ordinary members of the public was,
Starting point is 00:29:03 just don't bother. Just don't say a thing. Do not take the risk. Two-tier Britain has completely exploded outside HMP Bronzefield over the past 48 hours, with ludicrous seeds of a hard-left, truly psychotic British MP, Zara Sultanah, standing up for terrorists and encouraging violence. Where is the outrage from the mainstream media
Starting point is 00:29:37 that spoke about the so-called riots for day after day after day after the Southport massacre. Well, guess what, they're totally silent. As Kiara Dis posted on X, police under siege at HMP Bronzefield, this is all on you, Zara Sultanah, and your mob calling all day for more bodies to head to the prison, which has resulted in this mayhem.
Starting point is 00:30:00 This was entirely avoidable. And you do realize, by the way, that Zara Sultan's cause is a hunger, strike by terrorists, by members of Palestine action. So again, I stress that if this were any force in the United Kingdom on the right, it would be leading the mainstream media. Instead, the scenes at Bronzefield have been ignored. Well, I'm not ignoring them. Watch what went down. Let him go!
Starting point is 00:30:39 Let him go! Let him go! Let him go! Let the doctor go! Let the doctor go! Let the doctor go! Let him go! Let him go!
Starting point is 00:31:03 Let him go! Stop my name to me. Stop! Stop! Don't go! Stop! Stop! Stop me!
Starting point is 00:31:17 Don't get in here! Are you? Are you? Are you? Don't put me! What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Stop!
Starting point is 00:31:29 stop me! Stop me! Stop me! Don't get my fucking brave! Don't you're not. Fuck him. You're not. Look at what you are doing!
Starting point is 00:31:41 Look at what you are doing! Aye! Why are you fucking doing? Don't touch him! You racist, fascist pusses! Don't touch him! Shame on you! Shame on you!
Starting point is 00:32:05 Now, I know those scenes are awful, but the reason I'm showing them to you is because I'm almost certain you haven't seen them. You certainly haven't seen them anywhere in the mainstream media. Because when there is left-wing political violence in this country, there is total silence from the regime. Now, Zara Sultanah, it's truly crazy, right? She was apparently with a woman on a loud hailer leading Arabic chants of Mim Ghazak Takara Infitada which translates to from Gaza The Interfather of Victory is declared
Starting point is 00:32:56 Now we don't know if Sultana herself was chanting those words but it's quite extraordinary that she is associating with these people. Maya Toosie had a simple solution, by the way, in terms of the largest coordinated hunger strikes since 1981, give them a banking sandwich if they're hungry. But Zara wouldn't find that funny. Watch.
Starting point is 00:33:27 David Lammy is completely responsible. for the health care and the treatment of political prisoners in UK prisons. The fact that he's refusing to meet the lawyers representing the hunger strikers is disgraceful. The fact that Labour MPs laughed and mocked the plight of the hunger strikers who are putting their lives on the line and could potentially die is sickening. This is the largest coordinated hunger strike since 1981. and this government refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of what is going on. These are matters of life and death.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Medical professionals, where someone has a blood pressure of 177, they're not allowing medical professionals. They're not allowing medical professionals to be able to see a woman who's last 15% of the road. No one's threatening anyone. No one's threatening anyone. Someone who is who actually needs a count. There's a hospital that have died in this prison. People have died in this prison. They are being investigated in neglect.
Starting point is 00:34:35 They have blood on their hands. I would say that she is dying. She is dying. What is she is going to do it? Now, Lucy Connolly, who was locked up for a post on X, Posted on X, where she has returned this week, shit. Why didn't I think of going on Hunger Strike? Imagine how many MPs would have been calling for my release had I starved myself?
Starting point is 00:35:09 They would have been queuing up. What were them all shouting from the rooftops, how unjust my sentence was? When Zara Solana posted herself on X, just got back from HMP Bronzefield. Most importantly, Kesa Zura was transferred to. hospital via the ambulance she had been demanding since 5 p.m yesterday, David Lammy Kastami, you were on the brink of causing the deaths of multiple young Palestine hunger strikers, stop blocking ambulances from releasing them. They need immediate bail now. Lucy responded, were you demanding I was let out on bail? When I was unlawfully reminded? And honestly,
Starting point is 00:35:46 Lucy Connolly, I was so happy that you were back on X. As you know, I have been lobbying for that for some time. I think we need your voice, and it's brilliant to have you there. And then when I saw your response to Zara Sultan, I was like, absolutely, the hypocrisy of these people, the fact that there is widespread support on the left for a terrorist organization, widespread support for violence outside a prison, when the slightest hint of a few arrests at the Unite the King's Kingdom rally, which was completely peaceful, by the way. I was there. I covered the whole thing. But because Tommy Robinson was involved, sparked mainstream media carnage. Nothing about the attacks on those police officers and the truly revolting behaviour outside Bronzefield. I mean, put it this way,
Starting point is 00:36:45 Lucy, I understand that you must feel a sense of rage about all of this. well firstly the men in the white coats need to come and take her away she's absolutely off her rock her isn't she she really is but you know if i don't know and it was this easy i just wouldn't have had all the harrowe in prison you know great you know um but no all joking aside the difference between someone like me and people that think like you and i and the difference between the so-called left and these communist lot is i know people don't don't want to hear this but when the for example when the south riots did kick off. I was mortified and I tweeted
Starting point is 00:37:24 as such and said stop it, you know once I'd calm down and whatever. Whereas the left, they will condone this behaviour. They are attacking police officers. They are outside a prison causing grief outside a prison, you know, that's Bronsfield, so that's
Starting point is 00:37:41 Peterborough's sister prison, so I know exactly how it's run. There's no officers as it is, especially at Christmas time. So they are wasting resources with officers having to with that nonsense outside the prison and at the same time shouting that their friends aren't being well you know well enough looked after well perhaps let them get back into the prison and do their jobs then you know once field has a health care system i can assure you from from my own
Starting point is 00:38:05 experience that you know if people attempted to go on hunger strike and things like that it was flagged it was dealt with people they were spoken to they were encouraged you know certainly at peterborough that you know if people weren't eating and and and we're losing lots of weight, they would, you know, sit down with them and put together meal plans and stuff like that, you know, at no point did I ever witness them going, well, starve to death then. Raymond, how did you feel watching those scenes outside the prison? Like, how can they just be ignored? It's like left-wing violence is almost considered acceptable, Raymond, by our mainstream media. It's nuts.
Starting point is 00:38:46 it can't be tolerated i mean i do feel sorry for those um hunger strikers because i know at kirstama will not lose a night's sleep if anything was to happen to one of them hopefully that won't um i feel that they've done enough um they need just to start um get himself back on track um just to see all the scenes outside the prison and uh trouble what zara cause I did look at it and I thought, Blimey, can you imagine if that was Nigel Farge outside Peterborough Prison with Lucy? You would definitely be airing, like,
Starting point is 00:39:27 here Stamber on the TV, saying at Far Right Fuggery, and it would be all over Sky and the BBC, that's for sure. 100%. There would be rolling coverage. People would be locked up. There would be demands for some sort of authoritarian crackdown by police.
Starting point is 00:39:46 prison up and down the country. I am so sick of the left-wing hypocrisy. But at the same time, as I argued earlier, I do think the great thing in a way, Lucy, is that the left are actually now showing their evil colours. And this is turning ordinary people away from the left. This is why I think the left will be out of power for a generation. Because imagine supporting this. imagine these terrorists being your cause-seleb. I know, it's just absolutely ridiculous. And actually, I keep saying, I'm not referring to these people as the left anymore. And I know I've said this a lot, but all my family are lefties and stuff,
Starting point is 00:40:35 and they don't condone that behaviour. They didn't condone my prison sentence. They don't condone most of what's going on in this clown world right now in the UK. And they're hardcore, you know, lefters, you know, I've got an uncle that lives in London that, you know, thinks the sun shines out of Sadiq Khan's ass and whatever. And, you know, they're all northern. They were born up in Merseyside. So historically, they're Labour and Lefties. But they're not, they don't condone this. They don't condone what the Labour Party are currently, you know, do into this country. And they won't be voting for them again next time. And, you know, so it's really unfair actually. to put people like my family, for example, in the same bracket as these nut jobs. Now, this is the first time that Lucy Connolly and Raymond Connolly have given a joint interview,
Starting point is 00:41:29 two of our favourite guests here and outspoken, but this time last year, their life looked very different. Lucy was behind bars, or that singular post on X sent in rage, the rage that so many of us felt after the Southport massacre, and Raymond was bravely fighting her cause as a conservative counselor while trying to raise their young daughter, Edie, who clearly was suffering from the loss of her mother as a constant presence and force in her life. Now, it's incredible, Lucy, to think, how much has changed in your life since your release from prison.
Starting point is 00:42:20 You have been on stage at the Reform UK conference. You have been in Parliament with Rupert Lowe. You have been advocating for prison reform. And the really exciting news is that this week, you also returned to the platform where it all happened. The scene of the crime. you might say Lucy, but this is something that I have been advocating for for a very long time because we need your voice. And Lucy posted on her return to X, my front door in five, four, three, two, one, when 101 and probation becomes a hotline of Lucy Connolly fans, Merry Christmas,
Starting point is 00:43:02 one and all. But people internationally are taking note of Lucy's story and what happened to her even now. with Liz Truss, the former Prime Minister, even featuring her on her brand new independent media show. Watch. I walked in prison for less time than you were put in prison. And I just thought it was astonishing. And just said something really bad about our country. It does.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And funnily enough, just before I was sentenced, Hugh Edwards was up in court. Yeah. And obviously he walked with suspended. sentence. There's a B, B, the presenter. Who has way more, you know, following the me and people know who he is. I really was just a lady that was a childmind and a wife and a mother that lived in Northampton. Now, yesterday, Lucy and Raymond Connolly returned to prison.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But maybe not for the reason that you think. Lucy explained on X, where else, back to where it all began today. Whilst I was in Peterborough Prison on the induction wing, one of the first people I met was a young girl. She was only 18 and absolutely wild. Long story short, he was on a recall having only been out a few weeks on tag. Unbeknownst to her, she had fallen pregnant in the few weeks she was out. It always made me sad seeing young kids in prison. Anyhow, we formed a really lovely relationship.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I mothered her and nurtured her, took her under my wing. I was her stand and mother while she looked out for me in other ways. Put it this way, you wouldn't want to fight her. She also put anyone in their place that mentioned the word racist. He's from Ghana. Fast forward 16 months, Ray and I have been to pick her up, and her beautiful baby boy from Peterborough Prison. We delivered her home to Hertfordshire and took her back to her probation appointment in Stephenage.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Prison is a funny place, and you form the most unlikely of bonds and friendships. I'm so proud of the woman she has become, and she's a wonderful mummy. I am 100% confident that she's learned her lessons and is a reformed character. I will look forward to watching her flourish and rebuild her life and watch her beautiful boy grow up. Prison. What a funny old place. So I imagine for both of you, this must have felt odd going back. But Lucy, was it traumatic or did you feel like, thank God I'm not in there anymore?
Starting point is 00:45:46 Talk to me about your sort of guttural, visceral reaction to being back when you were behind bars. It was a bit surreal going back there. And actually, I've never been outside of the front of Peterborough prison because I left. in a taxi. I didn't leave through the front doors, as you know. So I've never actually seen that that part of the prison because I was always behind the walls, not in front of them. But I was actually really excited to see her and see her come out. And that was like more what I was my, what I was thinking at the time. I just was hoping that, you know, it was all going okay for her and she was being released as she should have done. I also bumped into a couple of girls that had been released
Starting point is 00:46:28 that day that I knew. So it was nice catching it with them. And, yeah, and a couple of the offices that were, that I knew well. I caught up with on the outside as well. So, yeah, do you know what? It was okay. Raymond, what about for you? Because, of course, there were many a drive to that prison, sometimes with ED.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And it really changed your life that period. Oh yeah, I mean, cranky. I mean, when I walked there, I was kind of smiling because I used to go in there and the girls beyond the counter. Obviously, I knew all the prison officers by then. They'd be like, oh, can you tell people not to be writing to Lucy? I'm wanting to go through all the letters and like 200 times she was getting. But I kind of like was interested to go there. But it was what was more striking was obviously there was a lot of prisoners being released that morning. they were coming out and chatting and cuddling with Lucy because she'd never met them all on the wings.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But obviously, my take of them was like, oh, my God, you know, some of these goals in there. But Lucy managed to get on well with all of them, really, in the end. You know, and it was good to, you know, the mother asked us to pick this girl up. We took her back to her home, sorted her out with probation. and then even went back to the house, met her mother and had a cup of tea. Yeah, a cup of tea. And they started, the girl, she wanted Lucy to be godmother to the baby. God, that is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I'm sure what's a discussion now, love. It is wonderful. And Lucy, talk to me about where you were at this time last year. Could you ever have imagined the impact that you would have now made, the force that you have now become? Because I imagine things are pretty dark for Christmas 2024 behind bars. Yeah, it was very hard. I think that was the hardest part for me. And, you know, Edie kept saying to me, Mommy, how am I going to show you my presents?
Starting point is 00:48:47 And can't you just come home for the day? And because obviously they weren't having any of this, like, letting me out on temporary. release or rattle or anything like that and it was very difficult and you know it still makes me emotional now talking about it and um christmas eve was really hard because they ray and ed came in to see me christmas eve and it was one of them you know you can't look back moments normally kind of get used to visits and when they'd leave i'd be waving and blowing kisses till you know till i went in but um yeah i couldn't i couldn't look back i couldn't it was the build up to it was worse. I was speaking to one of the offices that day and I was in the
Starting point is 00:49:27 office crying and I don't know how I'm going to get through this visit. This is going to be really difficult, you know, waving off my daughter on Christmas Eve, knowing that I'm not going to be there in the morning. Yeah, it was very hard. And what is prison like on Christmas Day? So they host that special event on Christmas Eve. Is that right for you to see? It was just a normal family visit, just a normal visit on Christmas Eve. they came in. They did do a family day a couple of weeks prior to that where, you know, they put on food and crafts and bingo and all those kind of things and it was a lot more relaxed. So that was actually quite, quite enjoyable for a prison visit. So they did that
Starting point is 00:50:10 and then they just came Christmas Eve for a normal visit. Would they have been allowed on Christmas Day or does that not happen? Say that again, sorry? Could they have visited on Christmas Day or is that not allowed? No, no, there was no visits on Christmas Day. Christmas Eve was the last one. So what happens on Christmas Day in prison, Lucy? Take me through it. This is a normal day really.
Starting point is 00:50:36 We got a turkey roast dinner. Actually, that was the first time I'd ever had fresh vegetables in Peterborough prison. We got real sprouts and real carrots, which was a real treat. Normally it's just frozen vegetables that you could drink for a straw. it was quite wild actually the actual day wasn't as bad as the buildup and what I thought it would be you know my friend Kelly and I
Starting point is 00:51:00 we were being white winches and were like no you're not putting a Christmas tree up Christmas is cancelled on this wing we don't want to know and you know all this but in the end you know we had as nicer day as we possibly could together in I was with a great group of girls my first time around in Peterborough I was very lucky to find these people so you know we just propped each other comforted each other and had as good a day as we could.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I rang home twice in the morning and rape at me on loudspeaker so that I could listen to radio opening all her presents and she was telling me what she'd got and stuff, which was, it was cute, but, you know, bittersweet, but it's the best we had, really, because there's nothing else we could do. Yeah, and there was, you know, it was very loud, actually, Christmas Day in prison, and there was karaoke and God knows what else
Starting point is 00:51:49 and bingo and, you know, they try and make it as pleasant as they can in the circumstances, but of course what people fail to remember about prison is the worst part of prison is your loss of liberty and the loss of contact with your family. If you've got children and family at home, you know, no, that's enough to make anybody have a breakdown over Christmas knowing that you're not going to be with them. Totally. And Lucy, the people in prison with you what were sort of the maximum sentences like were there people with with lifers and you know I was in there with patio sue the one who's in there you know buried her parents into the patio I was in there with Virginia McCullough the ones that um the girl that I don't know why I'm laughing
Starting point is 00:52:35 because it's not funny she bludged and poisoned her parents and then kept them in the house for four years before she was caught you know I wasn't actually on their wing but I did bump into them And then there was people on there that had, you know, just made a mistake or, you know, just hadn't had the help that they needed or, you know, were very vulnerable and got pulled into things by, you know, drug dealers and people that homed in on their vulnerability and stuff like that. There was a really, really good mix of people, right from, you know, that did really heinous things, right through to people that, you know, shouldn't have been there. But some people were there for years. So prison becomes their world. I'm just interested to know if people care about the fact that it's Christmas Day in prison. I guess they do.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah, they do. They do make more of an effort, I suppose, and everyone sits down together and has dinner. And some of the wick girls, you know, they'll do secret Santa on the wing. And, you know, we had got each other gifts and just little, you know, we just tried to make it as bearable for each other. other as we could, you know, by making the day go a bit quicker. So is that the word with prison now, Lucy? I mean, because obviously you've had a bit of time now.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Is it about bearing it? So there's never an enjoyable moment, but you have to just bear it and get through? Yeah, don't get me wrong. As I said, I met some great people and, you know, I laughed a lot sometimes. I also cried a lot. and I'll be forever grateful for the girls that I first met when I got to Peterborough because I just don't know what I would have done without them. You know, prison can go very much the way.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You know, we've heard of other people, especially going on the kind of charges that I went in on, you know, getting beat up in prison and being targeted and stuff. I was very fortunate. I didn't have any of that. I was very lucky, you know, even the girls that were a bit dubious and like, well, aren't you a racist? were like, once they'd sat down and actually spoke to me and listened, they were like,
Starting point is 00:54:41 oh, what a load of rubbish, you know, I didn't get any grief like that. So, yeah, it was, it is, it bearable is the word, especially when it's things like Christmas, your children's birthdays, times where you should be with your family and you know that they're, you know, doing their thing and you're, there's nothing you can do. And then your child's going to you, mummy, why can't you come home, Mommy, why can't you, how are you going to see my presence? How do you answer that? And right, I mean, this is the first.
Starting point is 00:55:08 time that you two have spoken together. And lots of people will wonder about the impact on a marriage to go through something like this. I mean, you were obviously always steadfast in your support of Lucy. And as a result, you had a political witch hunt against you. So it wasn't ever like you, you question Lucy. But I just wonder how difficult it was. for your marriage over the past year when your wife goes to jail? Yeah, I mean, you know, I'll be like it was tough, but I just felt like I was, you know, like in a competition. I knew it was something I had to win.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And looking enough, I had such great people supporting from all the communities around Northampton who had got my back. And it just gave me a lot of strength to push on. And off, you know, at the end of the day, it was just to try and build a team up to give Lucy hope continuously with appeals, even though I kind of felt watching on the news, you know, there were not, this isn't going to happen. Even like with Christmas, I was confident until a couple of days before Christmas, I was going to get Lucy own for a few hours on Christmas Eve. Confidence was high with probation internally and external. they felt that she was easily managed, no risk. But unfortunately, when the delays started to come,
Starting point is 00:56:45 I knew that somebody else was probably going to make that decision above a governor. And obviously, when it come back, they wouldn't let Lucy out for a few hours on Christmas Eve. But other than that, it was just, you know, we're still fighting now. And we've got a lot to, you know, maybe I'll miss it's, It was a difficult journey. You know, my concern was always, to be honest, I knew Lucy would be all right. I was always more concerned about our daughter, her well-being.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah, and you both put her first, of course. Lucy, did you ever worry about the marriage? I mean, did you worry about the pressure that Ray was under? How did you cope with that side of it? I mean, I didn't ever worry about our marriage. We've been married a long time, and we've gone through worse than this, Dan. as well. You have because for people who don't know, of course, you lost a son and you lost a son as a result of NHS neglect. And that is widely regarded as the most traumatic thing any parents can
Starting point is 00:57:55 ever go through. And I guess it does one of two things, Lucy. Either it destroys a relationship or it means that you are unbreakable. And thank God the latter happened to you too. you know marriage is hard isn't it you don't always like each other all of the time all of the time but i i know that there would have been no bigger champion for me than ray during this and and he proved that you know and it was all i was always grateful you know if i ever rang up you know sobbing or upset or sad or you know he'd always managed to be like do you know what it's going to be okay we're doing x y z and he'd always managed to make me feel better there was he was always doing something in the background to try and help the situation.
Starting point is 00:58:42 He was, you know, there was no bigger cheerleader for me. I worried more, I didn't worry about our marriage. I knew that we'd survive it. I was worried about his health. Yes. You know, it's not in the best of health. And, you know, this kind of level of stress is not good for anybody, let alone somebody that, you know, on paper is extremely ill.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I was worried that he'd have a relapse. He had a lot on his plate. You know, he was still working his two jobs. He was trying to make sure Edie's life, you know, didn't change in any way, shape or form, that she was still able to do everything that she did before. Keep her on the straight and narrow, deal with all the legal stuff outside, which was a lot. You know, it was a lot the legal stuff. Did him solicitors, did him with barristers.
Starting point is 00:59:25 He had a lot on his plate. So I was more worried for him. Well, look, it's incredible to see actually how you did get through it and supported each other and have come out stronger. That is an amazing thing. And Lucy, when you look back on your year, I mean, it's incredible when I think to that first interview where we sat down with you,
Starting point is 00:59:47 fore-outspoken. So much has happened. But at the same time, it's almost being bigger than we could have hoped for and we could have predicted because you have now become a voice for the voiceless, a champion of the people. and I think a real voice in this culture
Starting point is 01:00:08 or in the United Kingdom, which is, of course, the worst nightmare of the left who are like going for you even harder as a result. Does it shock you sometimes? Does it surprise you sometimes that actually there has been this positive to come out of it? With the left, that's part of the reason I decided to sod it. I'm just going to join Twitter again
Starting point is 01:00:29 because even staying off Twitter didn't stop them ringing at probation every time. seen something I'd said that they didn't like or trying to report me to the police. And I thought, you know what? Sod it. Like if you can't beat them, join them. And I do think it's important for people like me to have a voice. And, you know, with the prison system and politics, we need more people that are just normal people, you know, normal working class people that have lived experience instead of these, you know, jumped up politicians that, you know, haven't got a clue how to live on 30, 40 grand a year and feed their children and pay their electric bills
Starting point is 01:01:05 and haven't got a clue how their mental health might be struggling or their homeless situation because they've never ever had to live like that, have they? And let's face it, most of them aren't interested, which is why I have so much respect for Rupert because he is the champion for, like, British working people. But, yeah, he's far from working class, is he, you know? And you often see that with Donald Trump in the US as well, it's interesting there can be these figureheads. But, well, I mean, it's just so nice.
Starting point is 01:01:40 President Trump puts his people first all of the time. When those soldiers got murdered in Washington, what was his first reaction to stop travel from that country? You know, we'd get the blame here. Kirsten would be making a speech about how it's white British people's fault that, you know, they'd shot the soldiers. That's the difference. Trump looks after his own people.
Starting point is 01:02:00 people first and that's what we massively lack in this country from the previous government and this government. Nobody has put its own people first for a very long time. So true, so true. But more than anything, I am just so relieved, Lucy, not to have to deal with you being in prison on Christmas Day this year. That is very, very positive news. Breaking today, it's not just Donald Trump suing the BBC. Tom Skinner is now going for the British Passion Corporation. And you know what? If his allegations are right, this could be the end of Strictly Come Dancing and the corrupt public broadcaster altogether. A truly astonishing story revealed on the front page of today's son, Strictly starred Thomas Skinner suing the BBC for rigging
Starting point is 01:02:59 voting to get him off the show. He claims that he has proof and he will be boycotting the Strictly Come Dancing Final tomorrow even though it's the final show for the host Claudia Winkleman and Tess Daily who go out with Strictly shrouded in a whole load of controversy. Here's the reporting ex-strictly contestant Thomas Skinner suing the BBC, claiming it rigged voting to get him off the show as quickly as possible. The ex-apprentice star, whose catchphrase is Bosch, says he has proof the beep downplayed his public support because of negative publicity. Thomas and pro-Amy Dowden fell into the bottom two and lost a dance-off.
Starting point is 01:03:44 He is boycotting tomorrow's final, the last for host Claudia Winkleman, and Hess Daily. Last night, a source said the BBC has already facing a 7.5 billion-pound lawsuit from Donald Trump. now Thomas, a friend of Vice President J.D. Vance, is taking them on two. The BBC never spells out how many public votes each star gets, and Thomas claims to have proof it deliberately downplayed his tally. The Beebe then announced his combined score, and it meant he and pro Amy Dowden were in the bottom two dance off. The pair who scored 29 judges' points over two shows, faced off against ex-England rugby star Chris Robshaw and pro Nadia Bichkova who had 30 votes.
Starting point is 01:04:33 All four judges voted out Thomas and Amy leaving her in tears. A source told the son, Thomas is adamant. He got a larger share of the public vote and believes he has the evidence to prove it. He is determined to see it through, but there's no way the BBC will take the sensational claim lying down. They'll robustly defend any kinds of claims that the... voting was rigged or fixed. Pals say Thomas believes bosses wanted red because of negative headlines. He is boycotting tomorrow's final in which he was due to perform in the class of 2025 dance. Co-stars are said to be shocked by the fallout which casts a cloud on the exits of the two
Starting point is 01:05:10 hosts. Amber Davies, George Clark and Karen Carney are battling out for the Glitterball trophy. Our source added Thomas was asked back but said there's absolutely no chance. Thomas was hitting the headlines for all the wrong reasons, the supposed right-winger seemed to be cozy and up to US politicians. He's been locked and roused with bosses ever since he was sent home. He's convinced the BBC was hell-bent on getting him out as soon as possible, no matter how many of his fans got behind him. The Sun understands Thomas believes that the BBC was becoming unnerved about him being booked. The source said that the BBC needed this year to go without any hiccups after the past two series were dogged by dramas. The BBC spokesperson responded to the Sun saying strictly come
Starting point is 01:05:53 dancing's public vote is robustly and independently overseen and verified to ensure complete accuracy. But I've got my suspicions here. I'm going to be honest. Because the moment that J.D. Vance was pictured with Tom Skinner, a total establishment and regime media witch hunt fell down on this man. And my God, they came down hard on him. They wanted to destroy his life. I mean, the son, which has revealed this story, even forced Thomas Skinner into this awful confession about some type of allegation of cheating from years earlier. Watch this. A half years ago, a long time ago now, but I made the biggest mistake of my life, I got asked to do that, I've been a few years ago. free bit of treatment of attractive women, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Seemed a nice person. There was a single mum. I'm just trying to help them make their business. Made the biggest mistake of my life and had a fling, I suppose. Like it was nothing more than that. It was the one time. It was a mistake. You know, I woke up feeling absolutely terrible about it.
Starting point is 01:07:18 My wife, since I met her, I changed my life around. And I let her down in that brief moment of madness where I weren't thinking, where I didn't appreciate what I had. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry. I mean, what they've done to this guy? Lucy Connolly, because he was booked to go and strictly come dancing, is sick.
Starting point is 01:07:43 It's twisted. Now, have I seen the evidence that the BBC purposefully downplayed his vote telly? No, I have not. But do I believe that they wanted Tom Skinner out first, that they wanted to make him look as bad as possible? Absolutely, I believe that. Absolutely, I believe that because they destroyed this guy who was riding high,
Starting point is 01:08:07 absolute peak of popularity. He gets booked on Strictly Come Dancing and all of the deep state turns on this guy. I think it's twisted. Honestly, I do. Yeah, absolutely. What has, again, I'll ask, and I'll keep asking this question,
Starting point is 01:08:24 what has it got to do with who he might vote for or who, which political people he supports his ability to his dancing ability and what is essentially a family show on the BBC? Why is politics being dragged into a family Saturday night show on the BBC? And he says he's not even political, Raymond Connolly. I mean, as far as I'm aware, He isn't a candidate.
Starting point is 01:08:54 He doesn't support a political party. He represents the best English values, which is about hard work. He goes to his market stall. He's made something of his life. He cares about his family. He wants to provide for his wife. He wants to provide for his children.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yes, he made a mistake years ago. But that isn't political to me. That's patriotism. I know. He seems to a. a really decent guy he does. But obviously I've seen the media at a witch hunt for him.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I'm thinking, oh my God. You know, it was all, everything they could dig up on him. It was coming across. I would love to see what evidence has got for the vote rigging. I really, really would. And I wish him the best look.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Absolutely, I do. And the thing is, this is a show actually that once, was a bit of a national institution, but has gone downhill, like everything the BBC touches, Lucy. And I think there's a reason that Claudia Winkleman and Tess Daly are walking away. And I think it's the beginning of the end of Strictly, and I think what they did to Thomas Skinner is actually going to damn this show long term, because Strictly should never have been political, and it was.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Yeah, definitely. I mean, they've clearly got integrity, haven't they, those two, if they're walking away, because, as I said, it shouldn't be political. The BBC is supposed to be unbiased anyhow. And, you know, again,
Starting point is 01:10:36 we're making some family night show that, you know, families enjoy sitting down to together on a Saturday, you know, evening. We're making it political and talking about who people do or don't support politically. Why? I know.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I know. It had absolutely nothing to do with it. And the irony is, Raymond, that Thomas Skinner is exactly the type of bloke. The BBC should be trying to turn into a star. Not trying to destroy. It's just a normal family guy. Yes, he's made mistakes.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Of course he has, haven't we all? Yes. None of us are perfect. But also, what has it got to do with me, or anyone else who he might or might not have slept with, you know, 10 years ago, what have you? Quite frankly, I don't care. I don't care what he did. All I do know is that he seems a genuinely nice guy. He spends a lot of his time and effort, you know, and his own money, invest his own money into anti-knife crime in the area he lives down south. So what's people beat with this guy?
Starting point is 01:11:46 He's just a genuine, he just comes across as a genuinely, go, you know, lucky, go happy type, bish-bosch, but, you know, you know, it's like, it's the Bosch thing. No, no, no, totally. He's got a good heart. He's worked hard. He, you know, anybody that puts their own time, effort and money into children in their community and the way he does has got my vote.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I don't mean vote. But, you know, like, I don't see why you could take offence to someone like him. What's offensive about him? 100%. And, I mean, I even saw him this week offering, presents to people for Christmas. Honestly, he is a good guy. Yeah, oh, you're not putting boards.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what happened to him was awful. And all I'm going to say is I look forward to seeing this evidence because it could be the end of the BBC. If what the son is reporting is true and there is evidence that they downplayed his voting tally because they wanted him out, given his friendship with J.D. Vance. That is the end of Strictly come dancing.
Starting point is 01:12:42 It could even be the end of the BBC. And you know what? I would just celebrate that. I would just celebrate that. What a will. But Lucy and Raymond Connell. So brilliant to have you on outspoken for your first joint interview. Talk to me.
Starting point is 01:12:54 What are your Christmas plans this year? So we're staying home. My mum and dad and sister are coming to us. And I've got the short straw of cooking. So yeah, we're just having a quiet family Christmas this year. I know, but Lucy, just imagine if someone had given you the opportunity to cook last year and be in your own home, you would have done it in a flash. What's on the menu? Just roast turkey.
Starting point is 01:13:17 All the trimmings. And then maybe a cheesecake or something I'll make for after. Amazing. Well, look, have a wonderful Christmas day. Yes, absolutely. Lots of alcohol. I love that. And we will be in touch, of course, and we will see you back on the superstar panel.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Thanks, Dan. Thank you. Merry Christmas. Thank you both. See you, Dan. Thank you. Thank you, Ray. Okay, we're going to reveal today's worst Britain in the world in just one moment.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Let me remind you of who is up for it this week. Zach Polanski. was named Union Jackass on Tuesday, the tit-whisperer Green Party leader, Dr. Scholar on Wednesday, and on Thursday, it was Boomer in Chief. Pierce Morgan. Okay, let me get you to your feedback. Alison Kelly says definitely that wanker Pierce Morgan. His latest video with Candace Owens is usually talking over her, not letting her speak,
Starting point is 01:14:12 asking five questions at once, trying to scramble her, thinking she handled him superbly as usual because she put him in his place. Number 1's Brit says Pears was edited with the mirror showing photos of the enemy dead saying it was British troops. Lock them up. Dak Davenport said Dr. Scholar Ebola, the walking talking issue. She would find racism in an empty packet of crisps floating down the street. Alan Peter says Dr. Scholar has kept her hate going for years on TV shows Jeremy Vine favorite allowing her hate every time. David Ayers, though, has gone for Zach Polanski, who says,
Starting point is 01:14:51 imagine Polanski gets into power and opens the borders, money for every kid you have as long as you don't have to work and free health care. What exactly is the result the fall is expecting? And stunt man Stee says it's almost always Zach cleans his teeth with the hammer, Polanski. Wouldn't let him babysit. Okay. Your results are in.
Starting point is 01:15:14 In third place, with 19%, it is Dr. Scholar. the runner-up with 25% Pierce Morgan. But the worst Britain in the world this week with a whopping 56% of the vote is Zach Polansky. Now, I am very excited to say that we have collated your millions of votes. And I really do mean millions of votes over the course of the year. And this time next week, in a very special edition, we will be revealing the worst Britons of 2025 as voted by you. We're going to do it with Bernie Spofforth, one of our favorites, and making his outspoken debut, Leo Curse. One of the good guys at G.B. News, no longer with G.B. News, which is great because he's becoming an independent media force in his own right.
Starting point is 01:16:12 and he will be unveiling that countdown with us next Friday. I cannot wait for that. We actually have lots of special editions of Outspoken coming up over the next two weeks while we go on our little Christmas break, but don't worry, we will still be here at the usual time every single day. And as I say, it's exciting stuff, culminating, of course, on Christmas Day at 5 o'clock with Rupert Lowe delivering that. first annual outspoken Christmas message.
Starting point is 01:16:47 But right now, we're moving over to Substack for the Uncanceled After Show where Prince Harry is caught up in a new race while, as respected royal author Tina Brown claims he described Archie as his little African child, prompting a massive eruption from Montecito will reveal all the latest with Royal YouTube sensation according to TAS. So at this time, we're moving off YouTube. We're continuing the conversation over on Substack, www.outspoken. dot live. We will see you back here. 5pm UK time Monday, midday Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific, hit subscribe, turn on the notification bell on YouTube and most importantly I promise to keep
Starting point is 01:17:23 fighting for you.

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