Dan Wootton Outspoken - FURIOUS NIGEL FARAGE HITS BACK AT KEIR STARMER AFTER PM SLAMMED HIM AS "DANGEROUS" THREAT

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Go to https://ground.news/outspoken to see through media bias and stay fully informed. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access this month. Welcome to Britain under Two Tier Keir where ...Labour MP Mike Amesbury gets just ten weeks behind bars for assaulting a constituent where the late Peter Lynch was jailed for two years and eight months for protesting after the Southport Massacre, before dying while locked up in what we’re told was suicide. Yet Slippery Starmer has the cheek to lecture about the danger of Reform UK. But after last night’s German election, it’s obvious his time will soon be up and Donald Trump agrees. Dan analyses why Labour is panicking in his Digest and then joining him live for the entire show is former Brexit Party MEP and independent journalist Alex Phillips of the That’s What She Said Substack. PLUS: Katie Hopkins becomes Britain’s biggest news source BUT is banned by GB News. What’s going on there? AND: Ash Sarkar is humiliated for attempting to turn on woke. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: We team up with the Royal News Network to reveal how Meghan Markle is now cosplaying Princess Diana on Instagram, while the royal courtier who reported her for bullying finally speaks out on Australian TV. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Today’s Sponsors: GROUND.NEWS - Go to https://ground.news/outspoken to see through media bias and stay fully informed. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access this month. INCOGNI - Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code OUTSPOKEN at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: http://incogni.com/outspoken SURFSHARK - Go to https://surfshark.com/outspoken for an extra four months of Surfshark at an unbeatable price VERSO - https://buy.ver.so/outspoken - Use code OUTSPOKEN to save 15% on your first order. MANSCAPED - https://manscaped.com – get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken. ---------- Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spit, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live episode number 169. And welcome to Britain under two-tier care, where Labour MP Mike Amesbury gets just 10 weeks behind bars for assaulting a constituent compared to the late Peter Lynch, who was jailed for two years and eight months for non-violently protesting after the Southport massacre before dying while locked up in what we are told was a suicide. Yet Slippery Stammer has the cheek to lecture us about the danger of Reform UK. Hey!
Starting point is 00:00:43 If we don't show a path to the future, others will fill that void. In fact, they already are a dangerous right-wing politics. But after last night's German elections, it's obvious his time will soon be up and Donald Trump agrees. The leader of the UK Reform party who by the way did really
Starting point is 00:01:08 well in that last election. I've been his friend for a long time and I wasn't sure am I supposed to be his friend or not but it never mattered to me if he did well or not. I always liked him but it's easier to like him when he got the kind of votes he got, he really took, he took it by storm. And they say he's going to do even better this time. Oh, yes, he will. Yes, he will. If only this time wasn't like four years away. I'll analyse why Labour is panicking in my digest next. And then joining me for the entire show, former Brexit Party MEP, top independent journalist Alex Phillips of the That's What She Said
Starting point is 00:01:47 sub-stack. Also coming up on the show today, Katie Hopkins becomes Britain's biggest news source, but is banned by GB News. What's going on there? Ash Sarkar is humiliated for attempting to turn on woke and Piers Morgan reveals his own baby reindeer stalker howl. Then in the uncancelled after show on Substack we team up with the Royal News Network to reveal how Meghan Markle is now cosplaying Princess Diana on Instagram. This is really creepy folks really really like twisted mucked up in the head while the royal courtier who reported the Duchess of Sussex for bullying finally speaks out on Australian TV. I'll bring you all the highlights. www.outspoken.live is where you sign up. Then, at the end, well, not then, before the end of the show, we'll be revealing today's Greatest Britain and Union jackass. But as ever, the jackass is down to you.
Starting point is 00:02:45 You can vote now in our live chat on YouTube. But here are the nominees as chosen by you. Nominee one, Narendra Kerr, nominated by ItsOnlyMe44 for claiming that Liz Truss is mingling with Nazis and fascists. She's talking about the CPAC conference, folks. Greater Manchester Police, nominated by Natasha Jane Gray. And this is because, of course, they have wasted their time to try and persecute a grandma for a thought on social media. Couldn't believe this story over the weekend. And nominee three, the Stonewall organisation, nominated by Pursue Optimism and the reason the whole of the very USAID-funded Stonewall should have the title.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So get voting now. Your comments, your results coming at the end of the show. But now, let's go. So I apologise in advance, but I am genuinely so angry today. Slippery Starmer, our anti-democratic globalist prime minister, has the cheek, has the front to deride Reform UK and Nigel Farage as dangerous as he drives our country into the ground and his actual MPs are being jailed for assaulting their own constituents. So let me just say there is only one danger, sir, and it's you and it's your party. So this was Mike Amesbury, by the way, elected as a Labour MP under Starmer for Runcorn and Hellsby. today he was jailed for just 10 weeks for that assault and i mean mean, just look, just look at this actual thug who was in Parliament meant to be representing these people. Gwna i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd He's the local MP, John. Don't threaten the MP. You'll never do it again, will you? The MP of God's sake.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You'll never threaten the MP again, will you? Yeah, but the MP of God's sake. The MP of God's sake. The MP of God's sake. Well, he wasn't so cocky turning up at court today. Although he'll be out in just four weeks. And the reason I'm angry, like really angry, is because I think about Peter Lynch, who got two years and eight months, a two-year, eight-month sentence for protesting, non-violently protesting after the Southport
Starting point is 00:06:27 massacre before dying behind bars in what we're told was a suicide. I'm angry for Julie Sweeney and Lucy Connolly, a grandmother and mother, respectively, who are languishing behind bars, still receive sentences of over two years for a Facebook and X post respectively. So do not tell me, do not tell me two-tier justice does not exist in Starmer's UK because today just proves it. And the thing is, Starmer knows what's coming. Just like Olaf Scholz, Germany's outgoing Chancellor, booted after just one term, we have no time for failed lefty technocrats. But just like Scholz and his behaviour in regards to the AFD, Starmer is now trying to accuse, I think dishonestly and disingenuously reform UK of being a danger. If we don't show a path to the future, others will fill that void.
Starting point is 00:07:35 In fact, they already are a dangerous right wing politics, even here in Scotland, that will say they are the ones who can tilt politics towards the interests of working people, even as their proposals do precisely the opposite. A politics which feeds off the failure of the free market, the failure of public services to reform, and above all, the failure to control borders properly. We have to be ready for this test. Now, it is worth saying that Starmer made his insane declaration to row after row of empty seats. There were far fewer folk than Farage attracted at his recent reform conference in Scotland. Now, Nigel responded to Starmer, posting on X, I see that the Prime Minister
Starting point is 00:08:26 chose to attack Reform UK during a speech in Scotland today. We must be doing something right. And a far more successful leader, who Starmer is pathetically trying to curry favour with, strongly disagrees with his criticism of Nigel. The leader of the UK Reform Party, who, by the way, did really well in that last election. I've been his friend for a long time, and I wasn't sure, am I supposed to be his friend or not? But it never mattered to me if he did well or not.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I always liked him, but it's easier to like him when he got the kind of votes he got. He really took it by storm, and they say he's going to do even better this time. Nigel Farage. Where is Nigel? Thank you, Nigel. Thank you. What a great guy. Now, I'd argue that's a priceless endorsement, no matter what the mainstream media might say about Trump. And unlike Labour, all the reform MPs are united. Here's Deputy Leader Richard Tice responding to Starmer's slight.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Do you represent dangerous right-wing politics? Well, I have to say, Peter, I laughed as I sort of spat out my cornflakes this morning as he made that ridiculous speech. I mean, honestly, what it shows is that he and the Labour Party are terrified and petrified of the progress of reform, not just across the whole of the UK, where we're now leading in many of the opinion polls, but also in Scotland, where we've been soaring in the polls as well. Labour in Scotland have been sinking in the polls. I think we're give or take equal with Labour in Scotland or within just a couple of points. Chairman Zia Youssef wrote on X, the Prime Minister is now taking aim at a party with five MPs because he knows we are
Starting point is 00:10:26 his biggest threat at the next general election. He is terrified because reform is shining an intensely bright, disinfecting light on his wretched government. We have no intention of stopping. And Rupert Lowe added, dangerous right-wing politics isn't responsible for allowing tens of thousands of unvetted foreign males to roam our streets. We're not to blame for allowing these unchecked men to disrupt communities and loiter outside schools. You are, Keir Starmer. That is dangerous. But look, Starmer knows he's been swept away. This is a one-term prime minister. He will be lucky to serve out his term. Hence the mad rhetoric, which is being repeated all across Europe at the moment.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I actually, I actually, you have to laugh sometimes or you'd cry. But listen to the British bashing corporation last night try to brand AFD leader Alice Vidal as far right. She is an interesting figure for what is a far-right party because she's a 46-year-old leader who is gay. She's in a partnership with a woman who's from Sri Lanka. They've got two children together.
Starting point is 00:11:40 They spend a lot of their time in Switzerland. So if you look at that, the fact that she's gay, she lives outside of Germany for quite a large part of the year. You might not think that's a natural fit for this sort of party, which talks about the necessity or certainly the importance of a family unit being a man and a woman with children. Oh, yes, gay dating a Sri Lankan woman. But of course, she's far right.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Now, look, what's so funny about this is that if we just turn the clock back 10, 15 years, when people like me were considered centrists, even the former Labour Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, would be branded far right by the BBC because listen to his rhetoric then, which is exactly the same as the AFD and Reform UK now. Even if someone comes into this country legally, they should not be committing crimes. And if they commit crimes, they have surrendered the right to be in this country. So if you come to this country, for example, you've got to learn English. you've got to be able to speak our language. If you come to this country, you've got to pay some of the costs of the extra services on top of your salary
Starting point is 00:12:54 and taxes, on top of that, that you are causing us to have to incur. And if you come to this country and commit a crime, is that we are ready to throw these people out of the country when they commit serious crimes that you're talking about now we have got plane loads of people who've been sent out the country i think in the last year it was five or six thousand people were deported from from this from this country as a result of criminal criminal offenses but i accept there are still problems of illegal immigrants, and we've got to deal with them, and problems of people who come here and abuse our system, and that is not acceptable. As Lee Anderson put it, short memories. Imagine if we said this,
Starting point is 00:13:37 but we are just a different reaction from the left. So I repeat, they know they are losing. Starman knows he is losing. He is Britain's Olaf Scholz. And that's why things are about to get increasingly nasty. Now, let me bring in Alex Phillips. Alex Phillips, so glad you're here today because I'm mad, I'm fuming, there's so much to unpick. But can you understand why it feels so wrong, Alex, that people say there's no two-tier justice in the UK, given Peter Lynch was behind bars for over two years, over two years. I've seen the video, Alex. He wasn't violent at all. And then an actual MP can punch the lights out of one of his constituents and only go down for 10 weeks and he'll be out in four. Let's go back to Zakir Salam's rabid adherence to sentencing guidelines. When you look at what
Starting point is 00:14:44 happened to those people who were dragged into police stations because of social media posts held on remand, you know that the Crown Prosecution Service told them all to plead guilty. They would have been given an instruction by the government, look, just tell everyone to plead guilty, we need to get these people processed,
Starting point is 00:15:01 because the government could ill afford to have lengthy trials, which all of them would turn out essentially being overturned if they were challenged. And for two reasons. Number one is you have to prove causality. You'd have to be able to show that someone writing something on social media had actually caused violence to break out, which is very hard to do. Second of all, Sir Keir Starmer would have already prejudiced most of those cases as Prime Minister, standing up, calling people far-right and actually saying publicly that people were inciting violence on social media and this was causing the rioting. Also, if there'd been a number of trials, what I think we would have seen is beginning to unpack what was
Starting point is 00:15:42 going on during that rioting because I just I find it I'm incredulous that this was just sort of you know all organic and one minute people are protesting and then the next minute things are going tonto there seemed to be to my eyes a lot of people there you had the guys but you know lobbing the coke cans look I'm not condoning any of that but there seemed to be a lot of young people there who had black trousers and black tops and black balaclavas. I don't know about you, Dan, but I don't know many people
Starting point is 00:16:11 who are members of Joe Public who just happen to have a black bally hanging around in the door in case there's a riot. You know, it just isn't, that doesn't make sense to me. People who, you know, have black balaclavas lurking around
Starting point is 00:16:24 tend to be people who intend to use them for some reason or the other. They were infiltrated by Antifa, without any doubt. They were infiltrated by Antifa. And then that being the case, had he then proved that these people were the ones inciting the violence, it would have fallen apart. I know, if only he'd pleaded not guilty. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I totally get that. But Alex, then we have Starmer actually saying that Farage and Reform UK are the danger. Well, this is basically in reaction to what J.D. Vance has said at that Munich security conference when he said to European leaders assembled, all of you lot are the danger. You worry me more than Russia because you are opening your country up to such vulnerabilities. You are provoking civil unrest in your countries with open door mass immigration. You're not paying for your defense. You're weakening your trust in your public services and your authorities. You're impoverishing yourselves economically because of your mad you know net zero drive you are a danger to your people and what's more you're not listening to them you're cracking down on free speech and he pointed his finger all those europeans at the conference and
Starting point is 00:17:37 called them dangerous which is why starmer's now jumped back up and said oh no no no no don't look at me it's reform that's dangerous and i want to to go, do you know what, Zakir? Have a little look in that mirror a bit closer. You see that smudge above your top lip? Yeah, we all know who the dangerous one is, who's fascistic and wants to clamp down on free speech. And it isn't reform UK. Yeah. And then, Alex, we have Starmer, the most uninspiring prime minister I can remember. And actually, that's saying something because I found Brown really uninspiring at the time, although seeing the clip of him in the Digest, it's like maybe he wasn't all too bad, actually. But Starmer, Alex, cannot deliver a speech without reading his notes like this.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I'm actually so embarrassed comparing him to Trump. So this was him this morning talking about Ukraine. Nigel Farage, I think when I look at him, I think. If we don't show a path to the future, others. We'll come back to that in just just one moment, Alex. But while we're looking for that, let me show you these poll results and actually some really fascinating analysis from women for the progressive left. The German election result broadly aligns with this. But, and this is the really fascinating, but for me, he says, the AFD are also the second most popular party
Starting point is 00:19:14 among young women. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all because the conversation has now changed among a lot of women when it comes to mass immigration. There are those who just go along with the, I want to look nice brigade, you know, who say, isn't it wonderful? Open borders. We love refugees. Aren't I kind? Aren't I becoming? Aren't I the sort of woman you want to take home to your mum because I really want to look after some sort of asylum seeker? No love, you're not. Because there's another cohort of women going,
Starting point is 00:19:40 we live in the towns where our daughters are being harassed. We're getting funny looks. We're being harangued on the streets. We don't feel safe in our own skin anymore. And we're fed up with the way that we're being treated. We're fed up with having to work really hard and not being able to get on the housing ladder. We're fed up with actually living in a society that seems to do nothing to protecting women, not just from men from other cultures. But frankly speaking, where is the pron-natalist policy? Oh, right. If you're a Somalian woman who came in yesterday, who doesn't speak English and have seven kids, you're going to get the two million quid house and you don't have to lift
Starting point is 00:20:12 a finger. If you're a normal woman who goes out to work, who's been born and bred here, who wants to try and start a family, there is nothing for you. There's no support. They're even about to get rid of stamp duty again. You know, what is it that any young woman has to look forward to in a society that is obsessed with pornography, where women are constantly fetishized, where essentially, you know, the political, the political elite seem to think it's far better to be a man with dangling testes and a giant beard and fake tits trying to get into a changing room than it is an actual woman. There is no respect and no support for women and girls anymore in the West. And don't a lot of women know it? The thing is, a lot of women's voices have been crowded out by politics for too long. And also, like you said, there haven't been many right wing women's voices out there,
Starting point is 00:21:00 not really since the era of Margaret Thatcher. We had a strong right wing woman in Britain. But that's changing. And you see where the rights has been incredibly popular in Europe, it's where they've had a female leader, because men might naturally gravitate toward those kind of politics. Women don't. But when they suddenly have a woman delivering the sort of messages that they go, yeah, I get that, that resonates with me, it expands the vote. So I think that what Reform UK need to consider quite carefully is the fact that at the moment they have five men who are all representing Reform UK, which is great. I'm a fan of all of them. But they need to look at broadening their appeal as well. And I think it's an interesting message, actually, that should echo across the West because women haven't been heard properly for a long time. Let's get Alex Phillips in there.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Let's get Suella Braverman in there. Let's get Belinda De Lucy in there. I can think of quite a few brilliant reform women, actually, and I agree. I think they are missing at the moment. Breaking right now, an extraordinary media revolution in the UK, as Katie Hopkins, the most cancelled woman in the country, claims the top spot in terms of where ordinary people are now consuming their news. So Katie posted about this saying, appointment viewing, batshit bonkers Britain. I am banned by all media channels and outlets, including GB News, and yet BBB is the most watched news source in the UK.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And it's because, I guess, of her outspoken delivery. And you know I like that. Watch. Freaky news, not quite in batshit vonkers Britain where five guys the burger chain has decided that it will pull sausages and bacon and alcohol in order to be halal compliant. This will only happen in majority Muslim areas which include London, Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester, Luton, Dewbury, Batley, Spen, Newcastle, in fact most cities of the UK. Actually only two of the five guys are Muslim but they vote Labour so they get a majority share and also the other three five guys don't want to be called Islamophobic. In other news, Maddy McCann's parents have been stalked by a woman claiming to be their missing daughter
Starting point is 00:23:24 Maddy McCann. She's now been arrested be their missing daughter, Maddy McCann. She's now been arrested and charged. But you know, Maddy McCann's own father knows it can't possibly be Maddy because Maddy was murdered. Anyway, finally, Trump is going to accept a visit from Keir Starmer. Keir's going to be trying to stick his tongue up Trump's anus. But Trump isn't going to be having any of that, firstly, because Keir Starmer is about as relevant right now as Betamax. And secondly, because Trump knows where Keir Starmer
Starting point is 00:23:50 has been. And that is all the way up Brokeback Mountain with Lord Ali. That's it. That's it, bonkers Britain. Okay. And so look, look, look, look. She does it with a really big dose of comedy. And some people say it's crude. Some people say it's rude. Others love it. But what's absolutely fascinating to me is that there is this media revolution happening in the country. Katie Hopkins is a really influential voice, yet she remains completely banned by all of the mainstream media. So does this represent a fundamental change in terms of how people are consuming their news? Well, Alex Phillips, you are, of course,
Starting point is 00:24:30 someone, I guess, who straddles, so to speak, the independent media and the mainstream media, but you do have your own sub-stack, that's what she said, where you will cover issues that sometimes the mainstream media simply will not allow you to touch. And the growth of Katie Hopkins,
Starting point is 00:24:46 despite the absolute best attempts of the British mainstream media, the establishment and the deep state to cancel her. I mean, remember, she had to leave the country for a bit. She lost everything. She lost her home. She lost her bank account. It's fascinating, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, actually, this doesn't surprise me at all. most people don't consume their news via television anymore via radio anymore they're looking at on their smartphones they're using youtube they're using independent channels they're getting their information from x me included and i would imagine i should be one of the last people to fall do you know what i mean i'm sort of inherently sort of tied to legacy and heritage and i'm a qualified journalist so like
Starting point is 00:25:23 still going down the old-fashioned ways of opening a newspaper but the world is changing and actually it's interesting I do straddle both camps and what's really interesting to see is the legacy media camp and I'm desperately trying to figure out how to harness the online game basically that we have an email that comes around amongst all the presenters and the producers at talk which is basically the sort of league tables of who's doing the best on digital, who's got the most Facebook views, who's got the most TikTok views,
Starting point is 00:25:50 who's got the most Twitter views, whose, you know, whose program is being watched by the most people on YouTube. I mean, actually this week I topped all the charts. You've got girl, not surprised. What is interesting is now, look Sky News are basically on the cusp of closing down. They're obsessed with how they get into this particular space. What they're going to find difficult is the game is completely different.
Starting point is 00:26:15 They don't run the game and they don't make up the rules on the World Wide Web. And so they're going to have to compete properly in an open marketplace and not have some sort of monopoly because they can afford to have, you know, particular channel space on the television program guide and things like that. So it's a whole new world. We're kind of, you know, it's interesting. Katie Hopkins says, oh, yes, he's as relevant as Betamax right now. If you remember, Dan, when we were sort of in our teens, when the sort of great change started happening internet and all the rest of it one year it was like right no more cassettes it's all going to be about cds then after it's like right no no no more cds it's all about mp3 players and then you had ipods and the next thing is like no no no none of that anymore it's now iphones and everything changed so quickly that the thing was that was the next big thing wasn't the next big thing anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And I think we're now living in an era like that when it comes to how we consume news. I'm not sure what the next big thing is going to be, in what format and in what style. But do you know what? When it comes to the legacy media, they're really dragging their heels because for the first time, they don't know and they don't get to control it. Oh, indeed. And if you look at the numbers for the legacy media on the new media platforms, no one wants to watch them. No one's watching Channel 4 or the British Bashing Corporation
Starting point is 00:27:31 or Wokai TV or Sly News on YouTube. They rely, and they have previously relied, on their control, almost, of the distribution network, which is changing. Now, the former Prime Minister, Liz Truss, made an interesting announcement about this at CPAC last week as well. It sounds like she wants a taste of the Katie Hopkins action too. Watch. We have seen what independent media has done for the United States, and we want some of that. That's why we are going to be establishing a new free speech media network
Starting point is 00:28:07 in conjunction with our American allies, including the great people here at CPAC. It will be uncensorable and uncancellable. It will take on the British... And she says it will take on the British Passion Corporation. I think that's a great idea. I think it's a great idea because I think what you saw from Liz Truss's prime ministership is that it was the mainstream media that worked in conjunction with the deep state to bring her down. Same thing, Alex, for Boris Johnson.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And it's the same thing now in terms of them all ganging up to try and stop Nigel Farage although I think that's going to be a much more difficult prospect yeah and you know the chatter on this has gone out of control particularly in America it's caught the attention of Elon Musk it's caught the attention of Donald Trump my understanding is I know some people connected to this, and my understanding is they're extremely excited since that announcement's been made. Things have got very, very hot, basically. And so good luck to her, I say, because I think we desperately need something like that in this country. You know, America already has stuff like the Daily Wire, Real America's Voice. It's
Starting point is 00:29:20 got these stables of talent with these massive influencers like Charlie Kirk that have been established for quite a long time now. But we haven't really got something like that in the UK at the moment. We've got amazing talent. I wouldn't say as much as America. Actually, you're really a leading light. Can I just say, Dan? But what we don't have is anything where it consolidates all the sensible, good commentators. So everyone has access to this. And so I think it's a very exciting prospect. I wish her all the best with that. Yeah, a lot of people say to me, Dan, what I would love is for a whole load of you to come together
Starting point is 00:29:55 in some way, because it is difficult when you're asking everyone to pay the five pounds a month. I get it, because obviously we all want to be able to keep going without the control of billionaires who completely take away your free speech. And there are major developments happening at mainstream broadcasters, including GB News, by the way, which is going to crack down even further on the free speech at a channel like that, which I'll come to in the days and weeks ahead. So it is that difficult toss up, I guess, Alex, because certainly for me, there has been a great liberation in no longer having a boss, no longer being answerable to someone who's trying to censor
Starting point is 00:30:38 what I say, no longer having to fight in terms of what topics I cover. So I love the independent model, but I guess there has to be some way to support people in order to have the balls to go and do this. Because, you know, you'd put a lot on the line. There's a lot of big people who want to take you out, who want to sue you, all of that type of thing. And you've got no protection in a world like this. Yeah, and just imagine, actually,
Starting point is 00:31:03 if you can continue to be your own boss to continue to have free speech continue to have your brand um but have all the protections you're talking about and actually have a load of people in the same stable that you know you're not having to do you know seven programs a day people can tune in for lots of content you included and every you know they always see a rising tide you know lifts all ships and it's so true what you'll find is you know when people come together I kind of consider the the proposition I would imagine a bit like you know back in the day you had department stores on the high street yes some still exist but the high street's kind of dead but you wouldn't necessarily have to go to Karen Mill and down there and Oasis up there and coast there you just go to House of
Starting point is 00:31:44 Fraser or you'd go to john lewis and you get to buy all the different stuff and you might have popped in for a pair of knickers and you walk back out having you know bought all your christmas presents and the new dress that was in the sale and some pots and pans and all the rest of it so actually bringing a load of stuff together under one roof is a very very cammy proposition i think that would be i think the i mean, as I said, I know some people who are potentially working on this right now and looking at their financial model as well. It's very exciting, let's just say. I think this is going to become big.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And I know one thing, Dan, I know that they think you're very, very, very important. Bless them, bless them. And look, I want to say congratulations to Katie Hopkins, too, because she was brutally cancelled. It was a cancellation, actually, that should shame a lot of I'm not going away, is quite something. That's not to say, Alex, that I think Katie is right on everything, but it's not the point. She absolutely has a voice, and the brilliant thing is now with her iPhone, she just breaks through that barrier. And I also think it's really important just to show what Katie is also doing in terms of the Tommy
Starting point is 00:33:05 Robinson situation at the moment, because over the weekend, she did post on X saying, my honest letter to the prison governor, the response, this is how the British state treats its own. And it was very, very fascinating just to dig in a little bit into what she wrote to Nicola Marfleet, the governor of HMP Woodhill. I'll take you through just the key parts of this. She says, of course, I will sign any NDA or confidentiality paperwork in advance if required. And a brief view of my social media feed will demonstrate that my efforts online are about pulling people together and giving people hope. And she says she'd have a conversation. She's available. She gives her personal number. And then Nicola Marfleet simply comes back to say, based on security information indicating your visit may be used
Starting point is 00:33:58 for journalistic purposes, your visit has not been approved. And I think what's so bad about that, Alex, is that Katie had said, it's absolutely not for journalistic purposes. I will sign your NDA. Yeah, I know. I mean, they're really trying to play a cat and mouse game with themselves at the moment over all of this. They know they're getting a lot of heat for Tommy Robinson being incarcerated, the nature of that incarceration, his visitation rights, access to food, solitary confinement and all the rest of it. And so they're worried that anybody now will come back and say, I saw him and this is what happened, with or
Starting point is 00:34:35 without an NDA, which largely are very hard to enforce, frankly speaking. But the big question is, what it suggests to me is, what on earth are they going to do when he is released? Because there's only... Yeah, there's only last so long. But we know, Alex, the crackdown on free speech is just becoming more and more insane by the day. The Mail on Sunday front page, as Winston Marshall put it actually, said Starmer's Britain is the joke of the West. And this is, of course, because the police turned up at the house of a grandmother who had simply said something like pretty mundane and anodyne about the counsellor that was caught up and those leaked WhatsApp messages
Starting point is 00:35:26 effectively said, oh, they should resign. And the police turned up at her house. It's like, what the hell? Yeah, but you know what? It is a joke. We all find it funny. Ha ha, isn't this ridiculous? They didn't actually press charges. But that woman's turned around and says she's been harrowed by this. She now is in fear of what she can post on social media. What the hell is going on? It's a joke because we still don't believe it's happening in our country. We find it funny because it's so absurd that this could be taking place on our streets in the United Kingdom. We find it funny because we're not the ones living in fear. And we find it funny because reality is still yet to hit us between the eyes that actually all of us now are living in a prison
Starting point is 00:36:09 and it's happened so incrementally, so stealthily, most of us don't realize it. But I just want to say to all of your viewers right now, do you second think anytime you want to make a joke, make a comment, ask your taxi driver where he might be from. You know, is this the right terminology I should be using about this race or that ethnicity or this religion? Am I allowed to have that thought? Am I allowed or permitted to be concerned about, say, the rise of Islam or does that make me a monster? Can I talk to somebody about that? Do I have to be careful the words I use on social media? If you said yes to any one of those things, not all of them, but just one and even just a slight yes, then guess what? That's you living in a prison. That is you already being part of an authoritarian state.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And we are there. We are there. You know, it happens. And exactly. Suddenly you just go, right, we are there. And the poor babies at the Metropolitan Police decided to post on X. We're aware of significant social media commentary. Some of the comments are personal and hurtful. This is unacceptable. Okay, it might be unacceptable, but unless it's against the law, just stay out of it.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Just stay out of it. Just stay out of it because all your job is is to stop people breaking the law. That is it. That is it. Yes, sometimes people are going to be offensive. Sometimes people are going to be cruel with you. That is the price we pay for living in a free society. Breaking right now, the hard left deranged communist of Navarra media fame, Ash Sarkar, is trying to do a shocking 180 and claim that she was never part of the woke movement which has started to ruin the West. Watch this shocking interview with Jo.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Then you had all these people who were saying, you've brought violence into the space. I've been harmed. Everyone's been harmed. This is white anger. Like somehow it became a racial thing. And I was like, cunt is not what the C in POC stands for.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Like, like this is not, this is not what the c in poc stands for like like this is not this is not a racialized term at all how is it that a room full of adults can be derailed in such a way I didn't write about this in the book because I wasn't at this organizers weekend but a friend was um where they were doing an icebreaker where you had to pretend to be a kitchen utensil and someone pretended to be a salad spinner and then some other people said well that's white supremacist and classist because who has a salad spinner and then they were like well i came from a working class single parent family and we had a salad spinner and then the whole thing grinds to a halt because everyone's
Starting point is 00:38:59 arguing over who's been the most harmed i just don't think angela davis did this i don't think that huey newton did this i don't think that george jackson like you know when he's in soledad prison was like how have i been harmed i then was like okay then what what accounts for this change and so i look at the origins of identity politics and i look at the way in which it's become just so obsessed with the self and i'm not saying that all of these ideas are bad or that they're always bad but i think that good ideas have become blown out of proportion and applied to everything so everything becomes like epistemic harm and at no point has anyone gone get a grip and i think the reason why they don't isn't because they think it's fine. I think it's because they're scared of social ostracism. Now, is it the same Ash Sarkar who said this?
Starting point is 00:39:54 ...been talking about today together is whiteness as a composite. So rather a single process of racialisation against a single tangible racial other, we're going to realise that it's made up of lots of different processes of racialisation against a single tangible racial other, we're going to realise that it's made up of lots of different processes of racialisation. For me, the metaphor that I find useful for thinking about whiteness as a composite is Isaac Newton's 18th century experiments with light. And at the time, the scientific consensus was that white was the purest form of light. It wasn't made up of anything else. And through his use of prisms, he found out that actually it was a composite of every single color of the spectrum that's the
Starting point is 00:40:28 way i like to think of whiteness it's a composite of every process of racialization that white people have been was it really the same ash sarka who asked how white is brexit And maybe even the same as who said this. So viewers of colour go make a cuppa or listen to D'Angelo. I understand the pushback. I understand that lots of white people feel annoyed by the idea that they benefit somehow from their whiteness or that the presence of white people automatically means the presence of racism. I really understand that but with all love and all kindness this really isn't about you alex phillips that i realize he won't pay but we have the receipts ash sucker yeah i love the fact she goes dear white people it's not all about you because it's about me me
Starting point is 00:41:24 me me me me me because i'm gonna ride the wave of identity politics as long as it suits me this is the blimmin point isn't it they've all cashed in on it they've all used it when they thought that it would enhance their careers oh they've all played that tune when they thought it was number one in the blimmin charts guess what it is now being rejected it's being refused it's hated by the generation coming up. I've actually got a lot of faith now in the under 16s. At one point, I was really worried about them. And I thought we're doomed. They're going to be really woke. They're going to be woker than the Gen Zs who are woker than the millennials and onwards and onwards. But
Starting point is 00:41:58 actually, they're pretty sound. And what she clearly has discovered is the algorithm doesn't like her and doesn't like those politics. America doesn't like her and doesn't like those politics. America doesn't like her and doesn't like those politics. Europe doesn't like her and doesn't like those politics. In fact, that rubbish is about to die. And so she turns around and goes, oh, well, I never liked it all along. Now she knows she cannot be successful off the back of it. Well, do you know what? Hmm. Revenge is a dish best served coal.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And do you know what as well, Ash? I believe in karma. You probably understand the meaning of that word. So perhaps apply it. Yes, indeed. And are we going to see a lot more of this, Alex, from hard left commentators almost trying to disown their previous stances because they can see
Starting point is 00:42:46 where the world is moving to i am loving the death spiral do you know what sit me back with a glass of gin and tonic and a bag of crisps and i'm just going to watch it all implode i'm going to watch sky news lose all their money i'm going to watch the labour party be voted out next election i'm going to watch the tidal wave of populism take over the west i'm going to watch the Labour Party be voted out next election I'm going to watch the tidal wave of populism take over the West I'm going to watch the fight back I'm going to watch all of these people who had their moment in the sun being assholes about everybody because let's be fair
Starting point is 00:43:13 that's what identity politics is it isn't nice it isn't kind it isn't cuddly it isn't righteous it is completely narcissistic and it is unpleasant and spiteful and bullying and divisive so they've had
Starting point is 00:43:25 their moment and they got away with it so they thought but guess what it's all going to come crashing down it started we know it started that second victory of trump in the recent american elections was a tipping point we all knew it everyone in the west had their eyes on the election because they thought you know what this is the decisive moment. If it goes Kamala Harris, we're stuck with this rubbish. If it goes Trump, this is the beginning of the end of all of this nonsense. Because, you know, the vast majority of people, whether it be in America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or France or Spain or Italy or Poland or you name it, the vast majority of people hate this rubbish. They've hated wokeness. They've suffered through it, feeling alone, feeling silenced, feeling ostracised.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And then all of a sudden they realise they're not alone. They've looked at that election result and gone, we're the majority. And now they realise that they've got the power to get rid of it. And that includes you, Ash Tharka. So bye bye. Bye bye. There is a really serious side, Alex, though, to what they did to our society.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And I think Brendan O'Neill, in Spiked Online, summed it up absolutely perfectly. He said, let us speak plainly. Women were raped because of the deranged policy of putting men, trans women, into women's prison. Does Sarka still support that policy? These are the true wages of woke. Perhaps it was just a fad to the middle class left, which might now be discarded. Maybe for the liberal elites, it was just a means of accruing virtue. But for others, women, gay kids, working people, it was a poisonous ideology that impacted
Starting point is 00:45:07 in the most awful ways on their lives, livelihoods and bodies. If you were a cheerleader for this politics, it's not good enough to just say, oops, sorry. Ash, this mayor culprit of sorts is too little and far too late. Yeah, I actually, do you know what? I agree with what he says. Just saying sorry shouldn't be enough. These people have caused untold damage as a collective, and they did it to protect themselves. They did it with sharp elbows to get ahead and above and beyond other people, to push people down, to make themselves look good. They didn't care about the ramifications. A lot of people, I don don't think actually thought it through they were too obsessively narcissistic about wanting to keep up with the joneses to actually think of the real world impact but they
Starting point is 00:45:53 went along with it they all got dragged along with the bullies because they wanted to run with the cool kids and didn't spare a thought of the one at the corner of the classroom crying ostracized alone and losing everything and so in respects, saying sorry isn't enough. And I think that what will happen now is a lot of people who were very much the cheerleaders of this stuff will find themselves punished economically because the marketplace is now going to respond. But at the same time, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:18 The people who didn't go along with it should hold their heads up high because they're not cruel, because they stood up for what was right, because they had good core moral values, because they knew this stuff smelled. They knew this was unpleasant and divisive and spiteful and classist and snobbish and nasty and had a huge undercurrent of unpleasantness. And so if those are the people who didn't go along with it, we are better than now punishing these people. It's going to happen. Like I said, karmically, the market forces will speak. Their time in the sun is over. Let that be the end of it. Because actually, I quite value the fact that non-woke, anti-woke people are essentially anti-spiteful, anti-vengeful.
Starting point is 00:47:01 So let us remember that and continue to be bigger and better alex yes i do just laugh though i mean they did not see the irony at navarra media of selling a t-shirt for 20 pounds with her famous catchphrase i'm literally a communist they didn't see the irony in that and when when it comes to Navarro Media, I remember people like me, people like Julia Hartley Brewer, fighting for them, Alex, fighting for their free speech when YouTube decided to demonetise them a few years ago. They would never return the favour. They hate us. Oh, they hate us, but now they want to be us you know it's a bit like you know there's american rom-coms where you've got the ugly girl at school with the glasses and the freckles and
Starting point is 00:47:51 the braces and the frizzy hair and all the mean girls laugh and she turns up at the prom and she's the hottest girl there with the hottest guy and then they all want to be her mates i kind of feel like that's going to happen all of a sudden people like you and I will start being invited to things that we've been disinvited on for ages because we're now rock and roll I bring it on like yeah come on I'm looking forward to it and plus they'll have a lot more fun if people like us suddenly get invited to these parties and these events and if we get to be the ones who make speeches at awards ceremonies they'll realize that they've been missing out and having a good time all along. Yes, exactly, because believe me,
Starting point is 00:48:30 no fun is had at a Navarra media bash, OK? No fun is had. I mean, maybe a lot of drugs, I'm sure legal drugs would be consumed, but no fun is had. Alex Phillips, do stand by, because in just one minute, Piers Morgan is now being subjected to his own baby reindeer stalker. Now, this is actually a really disturbing story. No
Starting point is 00:48:57 matter what you think of Piers Morgan, you're going to want to hear the details in just one minute. But first, the reason you're watching this show is because you know that these days it's almost impossible to trust the mainstream media or the so-called fact-checkers who claim to patrol social media. And that's for a very good reason, given the Brexit debate, COVID debacle, demonisation of Donald Trump, describing Reform UK as dangerous. You get it right. But I have the solution. Today's sponsor, Ground News, was created by a former NASA engineer to provide you with the only safe way to consume the headlines. So go to ground.news forward slash outspoken to check it
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Starting point is 00:52:47 bombarded the TV host with wild accusations of harassment and dishonesty in an apparent bid for a big payout. But what Piers Morgan has done is pull a Jay-Z and rather than pay this woman to shut up, he has decided to speak out. And this is what Piers Morgan said. What she was trying to accuse me of was absurd, complete fantasy. He said the despicable piece of work will finally be stopped. And here's where it gets shocking. This woman has filed 64 cases against celebrities in the past year, including a bizarre claim that Piers hijacked her brother's identity. Now, this is obviously really shocking, given that this woman had been jailed for six months in 2007
Starting point is 00:53:41 for stalking a woman called Rachel North, who was a survivor of the July 7 bombings. How low can you go? And Pears had never actually met or had contact with her, even though last September she filed a central London County court judgment against him and his production company. In an apparent bid to force him into a hefty payout, she accused Piers of abuse, harassment, fraud and dishonesty. She claimed that Piers had worked with insalubrious associates on a campaign involving stealing my creative work and family history to promote himself as a member of my family. I knew they were going to be there somewhere. Loud also accused Pears of being sexually obsessed with toilets. Pears added i didn't want to have to defend it but you have to after being contacted
Starting point is 00:54:45 by the court otherwise it goes through the court process and you can get a judgment against you or your company which is what she was trying to do now pears did actually win this case she will have to pay him six thousand pounds of damages but he said i've no expectation of seeing any of that money nor is anyone else she is a har, a bit like baby reindeers. This could happen to anyone. And by the way, Loud is also believed to have targeted the Harry Potter author, J.K. Rowling. So let me bring in Alex Phillips, who is, of course, behind her own substack. That's what she said on this very disturbing case. And Alex, what's really interesting about this is I think increasingly people are seeing what
Starting point is 00:55:30 was done to Donald Trump in the US and are thinking that they can use the UK court system to wage legal warfare against high profile, well-paid people just wanting a settlement. And the problem is sometimes celebrities will just pay a settlement to think this just needs to go away. So I give a lot of kudos to Piers Morgan for actually calling out his very own baby reindeer. Yeah, and actually he's in a position of power he can because, you know, a lot of things wouldn't affect him. He's made millions. He's got a high profile. He can afford top lawyers. But things like this happen all the time on smaller levels.
Starting point is 00:56:08 So, for example, I'll give you a story from my hairdresser, right? He said that he had employed a woman who was from, I think it was Albania, who'd come to work in the salon, who hadn't disclosed that she was pregnant. Anyway, she worked there for about six weeks or something. Then she left. And then she brought a lawsuit against him and said, I was pregnant and I had nowhere to lie down. I didn't have my own toilet facilities. I didn't have this. I didn't have that. Now, he should have easily been able to win that in court. But the point is, he would have to then
Starting point is 00:56:38 pay for lawyers. And by the time all the legal bills are racked up and the time it takes, he kind of felt compelled to be able to you know had to just try and settle with her out of court there are loads of opportunists who are using our legal system not least to say all of these so-called migrants who have second third fourth fifth sixth appeals to stay in this country for all sorts of ridiculous reasons what is farcical about that is actually it is the UK taxpayer that pays both the government's legal bills and the defence bill of the particular migrant in question. I don't know how this woman seems to have been able to afford having all these cease
Starting point is 00:57:15 and desist letters, whatever it may be, CCJs and a lot of it. We've got big issues in our legal system. We know that. We know that things that should never make it to court are making it to court. We were speaking earlier about people currently in prison who should never be in prison on sentences that are trumped up, to say the least. But what I would say about this woman, she's clearly unwell. She's got mental health issues. She has a problem. And again, what we have in this country is a system that will keep asylum seekers so-called asylum seekers here will say about someone who goes around stabbing someone up oh well they've got mental health issues this woman clearly has mental health issues she probably needs to be institutionalized again that's a whole other debate but we constantly bemoan the fact we don't
Starting point is 00:58:00 have enough people in social care we don't have enough therapists people are waiting this for a year to get talking therapists well back in day, we actually had a sort of well wrought system of asylum, for instance. Now, those are the privileges of the rich, those people who could afford to go to the priory. We just have failure everywhere you look in the UK. But one thing is clear, we really need to grab the net or we need to get a grip of the mental health crisis. But more than this, we need to get a grip of the judicial system, which seems to be in its own mental health crisis. Do you think sometimes, Alex, though, we hide far too much behind the concept of mental health? Because let me just read out how Pears describes this woman. So he
Starting point is 00:58:42 describes Loud as a convicted stalker who harassed a terror attack survivor. He says it's hardly possible to think of anything more despicable. She's still clearly a disturbed, unhinged human being. And he added, it does make me wonder if it would be taken more seriously if she was a man targeting a woman. I do think there's a bit of a double standard there. And there's nothing to actually suggest, Alex, that this woman does have some sort of actual diagnosed mental health condition. She might just be a really nasty piece of work. Yeah, I think he did use the word disturbed and unhinged which to me
Starting point is 00:59:27 suggests mad um and i think that you're gonna have all sorts of personality disorders and this and the other that can lead to certain things but what i'm saying is you know we are we trip over ourselves to say oh well it must be mental health when it's just a blimmin terrorist but this woman clearly is disturbed and unhinged. I agree with Piers Morgan on that. And whether or not sitting down and having cognitive behaviour therapy is going to suddenly revolutionise her life and she's going to be nice, I don't know. I don't know enough about the case. But like I said, the problem that we do have is whether you are disturbed and unhinged, or whether you are a low-life criminal foreign gang, a lot of people are now, or migrants,
Starting point is 01:00:04 who has no right to be in this country, a lot of people are now, or migrants, who has no right to be in this country, a lot of people are able to exploit our judicial system. And if you're someone who's not disturbed and unhinged and just going about life, making money, being private, living within the law, you feel like you're constantly attacked. I feel like that. And everybody's saying, you know, all the time, it's like, oh, well, you've gone 25 in a 20-mile- in a 20 mile per hour zone oh great you're literally coming after me for a crime that's actually really
Starting point is 01:00:29 difficult to not commit you know and letters come through the post because of this I've recently tried to apply for a mortgage and there's some character from my past who sent me a dick pic he was an accountant 10 years ago right and I just said I don't want you to be my accountant anymore and um all of a sudden he's managed to like bring up CCJs against me because I rejected his advantages, his advances. And I'm having to go through a load of nonsense. Oh my God, that is appalling. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Dan, it's just, I'm used now in the modern world to feeling like I'm the one who's got to constantly answer to something. However hard I try, it's like. Yeah, that is appalling. You know? Yeah. Killers are just. to constantly answer to something however hard i try it's like and then you know yeah killers are just it doesn't like chicken nuggets yeah i just think we have to be so careful and you're completely right to tie it to those cases by the way because i guess it does show that the system is being abused in so many ways and we have to be incredibly careful because the problem we have, Alex, is that using a lawyer will bankrupt most people,
Starting point is 01:01:31 which is why folk think, let's just settle it. Let's just get rid of this crazy person from my life. And that shouldn't be going on. Right. We never used to have lawfare in this country. That was always a very american thing and like most americans when america sneezes the world catches a cold and for a lot of america said i'm going to sue you for this i'm going to litigate against you for that we never really had that system it was always sort of commonsensical you know if someone's committed a
Starting point is 01:01:59 crime or someone's actually committed fraud or someone owes a lot of money then things end up in court but creeping me now and it's the fault of the government who have started doing these things, they've started bringing in courts and legislation for all sorts of stuff, you know, whether it be free speech, whether it be 20 mile per hour zones, whether it be not paying the TV license, you know, stuff that should have no business in courts is now clogging up the courts. And there seems to be more focus on these non-crimes and that the amount of energy and time that they consume and this has kind of led to this spiraling out of control of the judicial system where the big things are kind of overlooked it's like oh
Starting point is 01:02:34 well never mind you don't have to go to jail or some sort of liberal guardian reading so-called progressive judge goes well you know this person's child doesn't like chicken nuggets back home and wherever they're from so they've got to stay here, right to family life, ECHR. Yeah, the whole sort of common sense of the thing that's supposed to underpin common sense, which is the judicial system has been flipped. And in a country when you stop trusting your judicial system, when you stop trusting the letter of the law to be something that defends the weak, defends the vulnerable, defends the good, defends those who, you know, are sort of committed civic citizens who do all of their duties under
Starting point is 01:03:11 the eyes of the law. When the law starts going after them and starts penalizing and penalizes them and stops going after and penalizing criminals, then you are in a very sticky situation. And it's clear that this is happening now in the United Kingdom. It is. It's very, very disturbing. And look, some people will say, oh, Piers Morgan, what does he have to worry about? But in this case, I absolutely credit him with going public rather than just paying the woman off, which would have been very, very easy for him to do. Alex Phillips, so brilliant to chat. And please make sure you subscribe to Alex's incredible sub stack.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's what she said. And we will speak next week. Thank you so much, Alex. You're done. Now, lots of you are talking today about Keir Starmer, not surprisingly, given that he tried to describe Nigel Farage and Reform UK as dangerous over the weekend. You heard my view on this. He's panicking, totally freaking out. He knows he's the next Olaf Scholz who will be out after just one term as a
Starting point is 01:04:19 left-wing technocrat who's ruining a country. And Richard B. Roe, Starmer looks absolutely terrified giving that speech. And I agree, he is terrified, Richard, because he knows it's over. So what he's going to do is he's going to try and deride you. He's going to try and deride me. He's going to deride any politicians on the right, and they're going to use this foul right term. And Fain actually made a good point too, saying the more they gaslight and fearmonger, the stronger reform becomes. Starmer is scoring an own goal. That's a really interesting point though. Certainly politically, they have discussed this and all of the ramifications from it, because for some time they decided that the best strategy to deal with Nigel Farage was just to ignore him, just to pretend that he doesn't exist at all. That strategy is now out the window because there is a feeling of we've
Starting point is 01:05:11 actually got to fight back. And Denise pointed out, oh yes, Denise, this comment, we can never forget this comment. Denise wrote, Starmer, when asked if he had to choose between Westminster or Davos, he replied, Davos. Every argument of his falls aside because Davos is his agenda, not the UK. And of course, never forget that he did that in an interview with the fake news agents, Emily Bateless. Okay, greatest Britain union jackass time. Let me remind you of the three nominees. Norinda Kerr, nominated by It's Only Me 44, and that was for claiming that Liz Truss is mingling with Nazis and fascists at the CPAC
Starting point is 01:05:53 conference in Washington, DC. Natasha Jane Gray, nominated The Greater Manchester Police, and that was for wasting time to persecute a grandma for a thought on social media and Pursue Optimism nominated the Stonewall organisation and that was because of the whole of the very USAID funded Stonewall should have the title. Let's get to the results. 13% have voted for Stonewall, 19% of you have gone with Narendra Kerr but overwhelmingly today's union jackass is the Greater Manchester Police. And this was a really disturbing story. Helen Jones is a grandmother, right? And she simply posted on Facebook a comment about her local council
Starting point is 01:06:41 who had been embroiled in that WhatsApp scandal. And it wasn't even bad what she said. It was literally like, I just want them to resign. And the police turned up on her doorstep. I'm sorry, the police need to start focusing on solving real crime. And if someone comes to you with a completely spurious case, you can just dismiss it. You do not need to show up at a grandmother's house. It's so wrong. Today's greatest person.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I'm very excited about this one. I'll tell you why. It's a nomination from at JFDTA, and it is the former MP Andrew Bridgen, the reason for having the strength to keep on fighting for what he believes in after cancellation. And let me tell you, we hosted the most fascinating town hall, outspoken town hall on my Substack last night for paid subscribers.
Starting point is 01:07:39 You can find it by going to www.outspoken.live. Just enter your email address. You can subscribe completely for free, and it's a great way for us to keep in touch and for you to get a lot of content. But what we're doing now is an interactive monthly town hall. We hosted it yesterday on a Sunday evening, and this is a chance to really get in depth on issues that cannot be covered very quickly on the show or maybe cannot be covered on YouTube, unfortunately, because of the type of censorship. This interview with Andrew Bridgen, it was like, wow. Seriously, revelation after revelation. Politicians being blackmailed in the UK.
Starting point is 01:08:18 MPs lying about their true health status. He is attempting to prosecute Rishi Sunak. It really is the shocking story of so much of what went on during the COVID era and also like big claims of election fraud in the UK. And none of this is being covered by the mainstream media. Remember, Andrew Bridgen used to appear on the mainstream media all the time. So I'd absolutely love you to subscribe to Substack www.outspoken.live and you will be able to see all of that bombshell town hall. Also, we've got the Royal News Network coming up on Substack for the uncancelled after show. Brittany's going to reveal how Meghan Markle is now cosplaying Princess Diana on Instagram. We're also going to show you how the Royal Courtier, who reported the Duchess of Sussex for her bullying ways, has finally spoken out on Australian television. So at this
Starting point is 01:09:12 stage, we come off YouTube and rumble. We move to Substack. We'll continue there with the Uncancelled After Show. Please sign up www.outspoken.life. You can sign up, by the way, completely for free as well. You do get a huge amount of content and it's a great way for us to protect against cancellation. Thank you so much for your company today. We are back tomorrow at 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hit subscribe if you are watching on YouTube or Rumble and I promise to keep fighting for you. But I hope to see you on the after show on Substack in just one moment.

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