Dan Wootton Outspoken - FURY AFTER TOMMY ROBINSON COURT LOSS ABOUT SOLITARY AS MSM LIE ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

Get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken at https://manscaped.com A truly dark day for Britain as Tommy Robinson LOSES in court, being damned to months more incarceration in inhumane solitary confinement at HMP Woodhill, while the MSM continues to ignore or deliberately distort the story. We have the best analysis from a host of experts you will never see in the legacy media. Then Darren Grimes reacts live. PLUS: Rupert Lowe issues a stinging letter railing against Nigel Farage as the Reform UK party leader hits back from Florida and Katie Hopkins reveals the truth about the feud. AND: Growing outrage that Slippery Starmer and the entertainment industry are using Netflix drama Adolescence to demonise young white boys. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: All the latest royal news with Prince Harry and Queen Camilla’s biographer Angela Levin, our Royal Mastermind. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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distort the story. But don't worry, I've got the best analysis from a host of experts you will never see in the legacy media. I'm saddened beyond belief that Tommy Robertson lost his court case yesterday. He now remains in solitary for the foreseeable future. This is totally immoral and it proves that he is just purely a political prisoner because this is a civil case. All he's done was to highlight the child rape gang. It's become part of the punishment the Geneva Convention says after 30 days solitary confinement is the punishment and to lose this case at this time with all this publicity it just makes me suspicious I'm quite afraid of the British justice system. I feel like we've lost it.

Much more in my digest next. Then Darren Grimes of Darren Grimes Unleashed reacts live. Also coming up on the show today, Rupert Lowe issues a stinging letter railing against Nigel Farage as the Reform UK party leader hits back from Florida. Katie Hopkins reveals the truth about the feud and growing outrage that Slippery Starmer and the entertainment industry are using the Netflix drama Adolescence to demonize young white boys. Then in the uncancelled after show on Substack, all of the best royal news from the week with Prince Harry and Queen Camillus. Queen Camillus, I'll get that out straight. Viographer Angela Levin, our royal mastermind. You can sign up to watch www.outspoken.live.

No Greatest Britain or Union jackass today because what we do on a Friday is even better. Reveal the worst Britain in the world this week using your nominees from the other days. So it's a three-way today and quite a three-way. Nadim Dari's versus Prince Harry versus Shabnam Mahmood, the Justice Secretary, who is the worst Britain in the world this week. Vote in the posts section on YouTube. Gosh, last time I checked, we already had something like 25,000 votes. Crazy, crazy. Probably more by the end of the show. But now, let's go. After sitting through yesterday's dramatic trial between Tommy Robinson and the UK's two-tier Justice Secretary Shabnam Mahmood, I'm disgusted, but not at all surprised, that the political prisoner lost. Equally, I'm disgusted, but not at all surprised,

that the mainstream media have been intellectually dishonest about the courtroom proceedings if they bothered to cover the case at all. Before happily trumpeting his loss in this very, very important courtroom saga, which has been funded, by the way, by Elon Musk, the legacy media was attempting to paint solitary confinement for Tommy Robinson as some sort of holiday camp. The usual suspects on the left disgracefully disregarded the horrid details about the psychological destruction solitary confinement is having on Tommy, a civil prisoner, remember, a civil prisoner, and they treated as fact the government's claims of his so-called privileges. But those who weren't in the court don't realise that these were exposed as absolute bullshit. There are a host of examples, but I want to give

you just one. The state claimed Tommy was being allowed to work at the prison on three days a week for hours a day, suggesting that gave him some form of human contact and would sort of challenge everything that was being said about solitary confinement. In fact, the truth is he has been allowed to clean prison cells for 90 minutes a week in solitary. Likewise, his gym visits are in solitary. But all the usual suspects who want to paint Tommy as the most evil man in Britain for standing up against the extremities of Islam continued their campaign of lies today. Like Piers Morgan, the apparently independent journalist who posted on EX after the verdict, judging by the lengthy list of special privileges Robinson's

getting inside, this does seem very unfair on other prisoners who don't get so many. Pairs, seriously, look into this. Think about this. Terrorists, rapists, murderers in the United Kingdom do not get this type of treatment. If this was anyone on the left, you would be absolutely railing against this as a human rights abuse. But what these people don't realise is that yesterday was a day of shame internationally for the British state because they were exposed in court as shameless liars. Like the moment when the KC former mood was insisting Tommy had visitor and phone privileges, but his call with his own lawyers about the case, which was being monitored by prison authorities, was cut off in the middle

of the conversation, prompting consternation from Judge Chamberlain. But of course it wasn't enough. I knew it wasn't going to be enough. The British state and the system want to break Tommy at any cost. The MSM have no interest in covering this case fairly. GB News and Talk didn't even bother to send a reporter to court for God's sake. But then they happily parroted the legacy media script the moment he lost. But you know, I'm fully independent on this case and Tommy's treatment. I've seen it for myself in close quarters at Woodhill. And now I want to bring you exclusive analysis from some of the best people in our country who you will simply not see in the

MSM. These are fair-minded freedom fighters who have been independently covering this human rights outrage and are all universally, and by the way, I didn't tell them what to say. They could have said anything, and I pledged to them that I would play their full comments with no editing whatsoever. First, former Reform UK mayoral candidate Howard Cox, who was forced out of the party for his support of Tommy. I'm sad and beyond belief that Tommy Tommy Robinson lost his court case yesterday. He now remains in solitary for the foreseeable future. This is totally immoral and it proves that he is just

purely a political prisoner because this is a civil case. All he's done was to highlight the child rape gang issue right across the country and trying to protect the hundreds of thousands of our kids from systematic rape from ethnic groups or ethnic gangs and I hope that people like Nigel Farage and the rest of the Reform UK leadership come out in support of Tommy Robinson because he should not be in jail whatsoever and equally I hope questions are asked in Westminster and I hope the Speaker of the House Lindsay Hoyle actually allows questions to be asked because this is an affront to human nature and human rights. Tommy Robinson is a good man, he's an inspirational man. I met him in early February and I was totally convinced by his honesty. This man is truly a legend

and we should get behind him. So I don't know what more to say, but all I can say is I will be continuing to fighting for his freedom. And I think we all should be getting behind a man that is trying to do good for all of us. And it is worth remembering that the brilliant Howard Cox gave up a totally easy chance of a safe seat into Parliament for Reform UK because he wanted to do what was right. Now, the brilliant

Conservative woman editor, Cathy Gingell, who was in court yesterday. Well, Dan, this is another very black day for British justice. I wasn't holding my breath yesterday. I've been in the court before witnessing the judicial review, Mark Stein versus Ofcom, and a sympathetic judge, I'm afraid, is not anything to go by. And so it has cruelly proved to be the case today. a chyfrifwr sylweddol, rwy'n ymwybodol, nad yw unrhyw beth i'w mynd dros. Ac felly mae wedi tynnu'n llwyr i fod yn y cas heddiw. Mae'n trafodaeth o ddiogelwch, mae'n cael ei ddod ar y cyfnod o ddiffyg ar ddiffyg ac rwy'n gobeithio am yr effaith y bydd y llwyth o ddiffyg neu ddiffyg hwnnw ar iechyddwl Tommy. Ac rwy'n sicr yn gobeithio arno nawr.

Mae'n anhygoel bod jyddiwr yn gallu ddilyn llinell newyddol Orwellian a'i gynrychioli fel y peth cywir a gynhyrchiolwyd gan y Cyngor Llywodraethau'n ei gynnal, yn enwedig ar gyfer y cyfryngau cymdeithasol, yn rhoi'r llist hwnnw o'i gyfranogolwyr. Wel, nid yw'r rhain gyfranogolwyr.

Nid oes ganddo ddweud y gwir. Dydyn nhw ddim yn rhaid iddo fod yn y prifysgol. Ond fel prifysgol llawr cyhoeddus, nid oes unrhyw ddyluniad neu ddyluniad bosibl ar gyfer ei gwrthdaro'i soled. Cynllun Cymru ei wneud hynny'n gwbl glir. Mae'r gyfrif wedi gwneud yn ddifrifol gwneud yn ddifrifol hynny. Ac fel y dywedais, mae'n ddiwrnod bryderus iawn ignored that truth. And as I said, it's a very, very worrying day for our country today. And there's brilliant coverage of the case on the Conservative woman.

Next, I asked fair-minded champion of the people, June Slater, for her view. Tommy Robinson's punishment in itself was overzealous, I thought, sending him to jail. Roedd Tomi Robinson yn ei hun yn llwyr o'r zeilus, roeddwn i'n meddwl, yn ei anfon i'r gaeaf. Efallai y byddai wedi cael ei gyflawni yn wahanol, yn enwedig pan fyddant yn dweud wrthym am y cymryd. Ond mae'n gaeaf, ac mae'n am wraith heb ddydd. Ni oedd un yn cael ei ddysgu, ni oedd un wedi marw. Ond mae'n eistedd yno, a beth sydd wedi cael ei roi ar ei le i'w safon, y cyflawni'r soledrwydd, wedi cael ei ddefnyddio erbyn cymryd cyfrifoldebau, yn ymddangod o ddiddordeb, mae cyfnod o ddiddordeb wedi cael ei gyflwyno dros y ddwy ddau o ran cael cymorthau'n cael eu cymryd i ffwrdd, yn arbennig ar gyfer ymddygiad gwael, ond a fyddai'n cael ymddygiad da pan fydd rhywun wedi cael ei gadael fel rŵan yn y cae, ddiwrnod ar ddiwrnod? Mae wedi dod yn rhan o'r

ganolbwyntio. Mae'r Cyfnod Genedlaidd yn dweud, ar ôl 30 diwrnod, fod cyfnod o ddiddordeb yn solitary confinement is the punishment. And to lose this case at this time with all this publicity, it just makes me suspicious. I'm quite afraid of the British justice system. I feel like we've lost it. Also in court yesterday, a man I hugely respect, Professor Norman Fenton, one of our top academics, and a man who will never just go along with the narrative, his verdict. I'm really shocked to hear that the judge has ruled against Tommy Robinson's request for a judicial review of his insufferable prison conditions which effectively do

amount to solitary confinement. Anybody who was in court yesterday will be aware of the inconsistencies of the state's arguments for keeping him in what they call segregation, which is actually solitary confinement. In particular, what really concerns me is that they said that it wasn't just for his own protection, which effectively means that the prison has no control over the genuinely extremist prisoners who want to do harm to Tommy Robinson but they also said that it was to protect it was to protect others from radicalization by Tommy Robinson and this kind of confirms that they regard him as a political prisoner and what worries me is that this also suggests which we feared all along, is that if and when he does come out of this prison spell relatively healthy

and not suffering terrible mental conditions, that they are still going to continue to persecute him and imprison him in future. And from Los Angeles, one of our outspoken favourites, Leilani Dowding. I am so disgusted at the results of Tommy Robertson's trial today. I'm not shocked, but I'm disgusted. There's no way that Tommy Robertson should be in solitary confinement

for what he did. And yes, you know, they're saying that it's to protect him Mae'n ddim ffordd y bydd Tommy Robertson yn ymdrin yn unigol am yr hyn a wnaeth. Ac yn iawn, mae'n dweud ei bod yn ei diogelu oherwydd ei bod ei bywyd yn anodd o'r gangiau yn y prision. Ond pam yw'n ymwneud â prision Category A o ran ymdrechwyr ac o ran ymdrechwyr? Er mwyn yr hyn a wnaeth, dylai'n cael ei gael i prision categoriaeth llawer llai. Ac yn ymlaen, does dim ddangos pam nad yw wedi cael ei ddod o hyd i'r ymweldwyr y dylai ei fod wedi cael ei ddifrif llawer llai. Ac yn ymhellach, nid yw'n ddisgrifio pam nad yw wedi cael ei gael i'w gweld, y gwirfoddol y byddai'n ei gael. Wel, maen nhw'n dweud, maen nhw'n dweud y gall Tommy gael unrhyw un i'w gweld.

Nid yw hynny'n wir. Rydyn ni'n gwybod nad yw'n wir. Rydyn ni'n gwybod bod pobl wedi cael eu ceisio mynd i'w gweld. Ac o ran ei bwyd, nid yw'r gwirfoddol yn golygu pam nad yw'n ei gael i'w gweld, chi'n gwybod, byw ar crisps a can of tuna. We know that he's worried about what gets put in his food, but he should be fed properly. I mean, this is just

disgusting. It is, I'm aware of the human rights lawyers. Why don't they seem to care? Why do they only seem to care when it's a non-British person whose human rights are being completely taken away from them. I'm just disgusted. And like I said, I'm not shocked. We don't have a justice system. We don't have a justice system. What a damning indictment. The update from Tommy Robinson, though, we can confirm that Tommy's legal team have submitted an appeal of his sentencing for contempt of court. The date for the appeal is April the 11th. We will keep you updated as always. Now, Darren Grimes, what's your view on this court ruling not to allow Tommy Robinson to judicially challenge the government over his solitary confinement?

Dan, I think actually many of the points that have been made resonate with me quite strongly. I mean, ultimately, the idea that he's been able to see people come what may, that's not true. You know, I've seen reports of people being denied access because they might post things on social media. Well, I don't recall that being up to the prison itself. The prison itself are basically making an admission there that they can't keep them safe, so they're

basically going to lock him up like Hannibal sodding Lecter. I think it's an absolute disgrace. Ultimately, my position is pretty simple. A bloke shouldn't be punished more severely because of what the chattering classes think of him, rightly or wrongly. If the rules don't apply equally to everybody, you know, that's the Royal Courts of Justice on screen right now If the rules don't apply equally to everybody, you know, that's the Royal Courts of Justice on screen right now. If they don't apply the laws equally to everyone from the woke mob to the so-called far right, then they're not rules at all. They're weapons, they're political tools. They are what I would call the three Ps. It's about PR. It's about pressure. It's about politics. So all three of those things, I think, are at play here. And I would just say, whether you like the bloke or not, right,

anyone that believes in the British justice system should defend the basic principle that a man shouldn't be punished more harshly because of who he is or what he represents and what his politics are. And that's exactly what I fear is ultimately happening here in near total isolation, not because he's some dangerous jihadi, but because the state admits that it cannot protect him. There are other convicted terrorists, sorry, there are convicted terrorists in there walking the same landings as absolutely everybody else. But Tommy in there for a civil offence is locked up, as I say, like he's Hannibal Lecter. What's next? Are they going to chain him up by his mouth? I think it's an outrageous way to treat someone. And Dan, I would just finally say this. Even Nigel Farage, who, as you know, has said himself a few things about Tommy Robinson

over the years, but he said himself that the treatment of him is completely disproportionate. You covered it on this very show. And the reality is this. Tommy's views make the liberal classes totally uncomfortable. And that discomfort is being weaponised to break him, be that mentally, be that physically, be that socially. But you don't have to like the fella to see that this is very, very wrong on so very many levels. You just need to believe in fairness, justice, and that watchword of the left, equality, to understand that, Dan. Very well put. Darren, you've obviously just left the mainstream media to launch Darren Grimes Unleashed. Why is the legacy media so determined not to cover this case? Why did GB News and Talk not have a reporter in the courtroom yesterday?

Well, Dan, even when I did read the news articles of the established media that had reported it, you showed on screen the Times article. I read that Times article, and you're right in what you say. It did make it sound like the fellow was in a holiday camp, like this was just a glorified Butlins. But that's not the case at all.

You know, and saying how many visits he'd had from people. Well, he's had many, many visits denied on the grounds that they don't want bad press getting out about them and their treatment of him in that if you hadn't been in that court people wouldn't know that his phone was cut off during the trial that was not reported in the mainstream media despicable the notes these are these are obviously mock-ups but the words are real words darren i saw tomm Tommy hold the notes up to the cameras and those notes didn't make it into the mainstream media coverage either. No. Well, and I can quite understand why they don't want a sympathetic ear. They don't want to look like they're being sympathetic to, as I say, the so-called far right. Ultimately,

I think it's insulting millions of people who can, whatever they think about someone, recognise that what's happening is totally wrong. What I would say, Dan, is that when I read your report, which was very thorough and very fast, you must have worked like a wizard. But honestly, I read that report and I thought maybe the judge in this case would lend a sympathetic ear. I was actually pretty optimistic when I read your report, but ultimately I was wrong there. So I don't, I'm interested in what you thought actually. Did you expect it to go differently to how it ultimately did? No, I didn't. And thank you for reading the report. You can read it yourself at www.outspoken.live. And it really is worth signing up, by the way, completely free.

And this is the way for you to have that direct contact with me. But unfortunately, Darren, no, I did not believe that it was going to go the right way. What was frustrating is that this was actually a good judge. This was a decent judge. Judge Chamberlain, he actually believes that the UK needs our own

version of the First Amendment because he's so determined to protect free speech, even for some of the people who I think are just absolute poxers on society like Extinction Rebellion. So this was a good judge, but unfortunately, it was still very obvious where this was going to go. So there were a lot of people in court who were feeling positive and thinking, this is our moment. I wasn't. I wasn't because the whole thing is the system is stacked against Tommy Robinson. Breaking right now. Rupert Lowe has just pulled out of taking part in Nigel Farage's investigation into so-called bullying claims against the ex-Great Yarmouth MP in a massive escalation of this civil war between the two men, which looks like it will end up resulting, by the way, in a new political party for Britain, perhaps one backed by a certain Elon Musk. So Rupert has published an open letter. It is worth me taking you through some of the

highlights. He is responding to the fact that the BBC has published leaked messages against Nigel Farage, which he says prove that the reform leadership have zero integrity and he has no faith that their investigation is being conducted in a fair manner. As a result of that, Rupert Lowe says he will not be engaging with the reform investigation into blatantly vexatious complaints made by former employers who both admitted serious offensives and were going through the disciplinary process regarding this misconduct before any of their issues were raised. There is no credible evidence of any bullying by anybody because there was none. He says this whole investigation has been weaponized in a desperate attempt to smear my name.

Then things get even more brutal. He says, I will not work with the rotten and deceitful reform leadership. Their disgraceful actions have put my honest and decent team through hell. If reform continues to harass my staff, trust me, there will be legal consequences. I will personally see to that. He says that interview, referring to the Daily Mail interview he gave, is why they designed and launched their horrific smear campaign against my name. It is evil behavior. Nigel Farage must never be prime minister. All I have done is tell the truth and will continue to do so. Farage has just responded from Florida. Let me tell you what he says. The suspension was to protect the party simple. The newspaper attack on Reform UK is

separate but dreadful. We have worked for seven months to build a party capable of contesting the May 1st elections at scale. So that is what Farage has said. And Team Farage are now getting down and dirty with Rupert Lowe. Lois Perry, the head of the Homeland Institute, a very close friend and confidant of Farage has said today, get a life, Rupert Lowe. Outside of Twitter, no one knows who you are. I like you and agree with you on lots of things, but you have no loyalty. You don't see the bigger picture. And like most alpha men, you're just jealous of Nigel. Get a grip. Say sorry and let's move forward. You don't want to be an independent. The Tories won't have you. What's fascinating about that is that Lois seems to be suggesting that Nigel would welcome Rupert back into the party. I don't think that's going to happen. It was quite naive, that take to me. Rupert himself has continued today to push the policy issue of which he is most passionate, mass deportations, saying Trump, Donald Trump, is proving that they work.

And he says we must have the courage to do the same, even if it results in a few unpleasant insults. Honestly, who cares? Mass deportations work. He has also denied claims from Team Farage and folk on the left suggesting that his ex-account has been boosted by bots, saying, here's a bad idea. People just really like the idea of deporting en masse illegal migrants and foreign criminals and generally enjoy my forthright commentary. No, of course not. It must be the Russians. You can look at this from two points of view, though, because a new poll from Find Out Now, which has been trumpeted and heralded by Reform UK supporter Matt Goodwin, shows reform extending its lead. So perhaps this publicity sparked by Rupert Lowe has actually

only made more people familiar with the reform UK cause. However, at the same time, I don't think the issue of mass deportations is going away. Josh Fermay posted on X, the fact that the Daily Telegraph is happy to publish headlines like this, talking about we can't carry on like this, it's time for mass deportations, is no small thing. It seems that the concept of mass deportations is cementing itself in mainstream discourse. And Suella Braverman has weighed in as well, this time on J.D. Vance's claims that the UK is ruining itself. We are ruining ourselves with mass immigration. She writes, he's right. Unprecedented levels of low-skilled, low-wage immigration are breaking this country. I don't care which party fixes it, but it can't go So there's a huge amount of discussion going on from both sides of the political divide here.

But perhaps most interesting, and it's really not often I say this, is a take from Andrew Ma, who is the left-wing political editor of The New Statesman. He is reporting on a conversation that he had with a right-wing Tory, making the point that this row between Nigel Farage and Rupert Lowe is actually far more damaging than what many want to give it credit for. Watch. I was talking recently to a very senior, very right-wing conservative, somebody absolutely on the right of the party, the kind of person you would think might be drifting towards reform.

And I said to him, you know, what's the prospects? Do you think for some kind of rapprochement or alliance, if not merger with reform? And he said, absolutely zero. He said, the man is a beech tree. I said, you what? He said, yes, Nigel Farage is a beech tree. And I said again, what? He said, have you ever looked under a beech tree? Nothing grows. And I think there's a truth in that. I think Nigel Farage is the kind of leader who feels it has to be about him. He is an extraordinarily successful, popular voice in the country. He has, you know, the gift of tongues, as it were.

But he doesn't like people nudging up against him on one elbow or the other elbow. And the problem with Rupert Lowe has been going back quite a long time now. There have been very, very angry exchanges as well in the Commons voting lobbies between the two of them. Darren Grimes is now a Reform UK candidate. Darren, who are you with on this, Rupert Lowe or Nigel Farage? Look, Dan, I know for a fact that this won't make me popular with outspoken members who are watching this and are very sympathetic to Rupert Lowe and as am I on many of his positions that he's taken I've followed him on X for a long time I am one of those X obsessives that has been sharing his

content and all the rest of it so I get it look I totally get it but what I have to say is that I think actually this is starting to look like a case of sniping from the sidelines. And I think it's got to stop. And I'll tell you why. It's sad. It's incredibly sad to see, because as I say, I agree with the fella on a lot of what he has to say. But what I didn't agree with, and I've said this to you before, is the decision to go running to Tory boy Pierce at the Daily Mail, of all people, this little pixie who despises reform,

who'd frankly sell out every single one of its supporters, including your viewers, for another invite to a Westminster dinner circuit where he could slag them off to air his grievances about them., he's a revolted man. He is a completely revolted man.

I don't think that's holding the leader down. I think that's given the Tories and the Labour Party exactly what they want. They lapped it up like cats to a saucer. They wanted this division. They wanted this drama. And every single day, you know, I speak to activists up here in the North East and elsewhere, the candidates, the people who aren't

candidates, but who are out there handing out leaflets, knocking on doors, who believe that they are fighting in these local elections, not just for your bin collections, but as important as they are, but fighting to give Britain a chance in 2029, because without reform, in my opinion, we're done. By 2029, the country will be beyond saving. And that's why this matters to me and to millions of people in the country. And those polls reflect that, that 27% mark that you saw in that other poll there. That's amazing compared to what it was last July. So I am disappointed about this. It is totally suboptimal. I wish it hadn't happened with every fibre of me being.

But what can it possibly allow the Reform Party to be utterly destroyed and led into wreck and ruin over this? I think it's wrong to suggest that we can do without them and set up some new political party and have the same success that Nigel has brought. It's taken them 30 years in politics, Dan, many of them in the political wilderness. I think many people are being, frankly, many of them in the political wilderness. I think many people are being, frankly, a little bit naive. Darren, when you are out and about in Newcastle, I don't know if you've started campaigning yet, but when you're out and about, is anyone raising Rupert Lowe with you? So it's throughout the North East, to be honest, not in Durham mostly. But what I would say is that I haven't heard once, I haven't heard once anyone say that this has been a point of

contention for them, that they would actually abscond from voting over. I haven't heard that. People are tired of being taken for granted by the Labour Party. In Durham County Council, last time, they elected a coalition of the Libs, the Tories, and some independents, and it's got them nowhere. People are desperate, crying out for change. You know, the Labour Party have been sending out paid-for leaflets, Dan, because they're too scared to knock on people's doors. And these leaflets said, vote for change. I thought, vote for change.

You people are just the same old ugly arse, just the same, a different cheek of said behind. The globalists that care nothing about places like Durham. You've taken them for granted for far too long and you're going to be shown the door. And make no mistake about it, if Durham County Council is controlled by the Reform Party, that'll be the first time it's been controlled fully by any other party than Labour.

It will be nothing short of a political revolution. So let's not get too carried away about reform being some kind of, you know, ready for the guillotine. It's a party that's very much on the up. And I don't buy into this wilderness years death knell that many people are predicting. Katie Hopkins has spoken out on Nigel Farage and the Reform UK drama in detail for the first time. And for the first time, she seems to be nailing her colours to the mask and backing Rupert Lowe over the party's leader. I want to take you through exactly what she has to say, but first her criticism is very much centred around Nigel's new relationship with Zia Youssef, the chairman of the party. He has broken his silence in the past 24 hours to say reform has

made unprecedented progress in the last eight months from a standing start. Historically, reform fielded candidates in just a third of council by-elections. In four months, we built infrastructure to ensure we now stand in almost all of them. Huge credit to our branches. However, and there is a however, it was Zia Youssef who made the decision to go tonto, to turn totally toxic on Rupert Lowe and report Reform's top performing MP to the police. Darren Grimes, a Reform UK member and candidate, will join us for analysis in just one moment. But first, I think it's important to take you through all of Katie's arguments so we have total context on what she's saying. Because remember, she has been incredibly

supportive of Reform UK. She has offered to speak at the party's events. She's offered to even stand as a candidate for the party. So this is not a woman like me. This is not a woman who has it in her to want to bring down Nigel Farage or destroy Reform UK. That is not where she's coming from. However, she is angry about Zia Youssef. Watch. So yesterday, Nigel came out and said any criticism of Mohammed Zia Youssef is racism. Anybody criticising Mohammed Zia Youssef is racism. Now despite the fact that the criticisms being levelled at Mohammed aren't about colour or religion or something weird, it's that he reported Rupert Lowe to the police over hurty words. So factually, you know, criticism of Mohammed Zia Youssef isn't about anything to do with race nor religion. It's to

do with behavior around a much-loved MP or an MP that many people feel speak the truth. That. She then explained how Nigel Farage and his set of rules now seem to relate directly to the central role that Zia Youssef now finds himself having within Reform UK. If you want to support reform or you want to be on side with Nigel, that's probably a better way of phrasing it, there are a list of rules. Now I've known these for a few decades. When people have asked me about Nigel, I always go, oh, yes, yes, Nigel. But I've always known all of this stuff. But, you know, you have to hold the line and you have to support the thing that's most closely aligned. You have to choose the least bad option.

But anyway, so now if you want to be around Nigel or on a stage with Nigel or share space with the boss of the company that is Reform, you have to bow down to Mohammed Zia Youssef, no matter how he treats you. Doesn't matter if he reports you to the police because, you know, you didn't buy him lunch. You know, you have to bow down. Number two, you have to disavow the online rights. That lot, that really sneering, dismissive thing that I cannot stand. Richard Tice does that. Nigel does it. You have to dismiss all the decent people that I love as the online right. Oh, just racists, skinhead racists, which is not the truth at all. Most of them are like grandparents and lovely

people and young people as well who are scared for the direction this country is going in. You sort of talk about immigration, but you can't have any solutions because you can't talk about the options. So you have to sort of talk about immigration to get votes or clicks or views, but then don't really address the fact that you're not willing to go hard on a solution in the way that Trump has, ramping people up, deporting people, getting people to say, I don't deserve to be in America, I should really leave. And then interestingly, Katie Hopkins linked all of this to GB News and what she describes as the GB News framework, something that both myself and Darren Grimes know a lot about. Watch. Another rule is you have to be within the GB News framework, because that's a whole other, you know, list of rules in itself.

You know, I'm banned from GB News because at no time would I ever, ever comply with the rules that all of those presenters, all of them have to comply with. That's fine. People need an income. People need a job. No criticism. I'm just saying the list of rules. So you must bow down to Zia. You must criticise the online writers racist. My people, you have to say they're all racist and bad guys. You have to be within the rule framework of GB News, which is another layer of rules right there. And then you have to be willing to disavow Tommy Robinson or me or whatever. I'm irrelevant in this. But you have to say Tommy Robinson's a bad guy. You're not allowed to speak his name. You're not allowed to mention his name. You're not allowed to say that the fight he's in the isolation he's enduring is terrible and wrong you're not allowed to say any of that you see

all of these rules that have been put in place by Nigel in order to completely control things mean that for most of us it doesn't bear any resemblance to a party we would want to belong to. And yet we can all acknowledge if you have to pick an option, it's the least worst option. Okay, more from Katie in just a moment, but let me bring in Darren Grimes now,

who used to work for GB News until very recently, is now a Reform UK candidate. Are these rules that Katie Hopkins is outlining true in terms of your experience? No, I haven't. You know, I think I'd like to think, Dan, that viewers would find that you go through my social media accounts, my video content, my sub stack, whatever it might be, that I'm pretty damn outspoken about things. I don't feel remotely censored. Yeah, absolutely. Good word, isn't it? And look, Katie, good luck to her, right?

Whatever she said, she resonates with a lot of people. She's funny. She's all the rest of it. She's selling out comedy nights. Great. Good for her. I'm sure Rupert and her will have a riot of a time. But the truth of the reality is here, she's right in saying that without Farage and without reform, well, ask yourself, what do I have then? And the answer is a Tory carcass and Keir Starmer's Labour Party. And as I said earlier, they're the same two sides of the same useless globalist coin. So, yeah, scrutinise reform all you want, right? Any

party has to be open to that. Politics is a hard business. It's, you know, some unkind people dismiss it as a show business for ugly people. But that comes with risks and scrutiny. But if this party implodes and people say, I'm not backing it anymore, then we'll hand the enemies of reform who are mighty in number, powerful in the establishment classes, we'll hand them the ammo that they crave and then it's game over for this country. I really don't think we've got a way back on all the issues that people like Katie talk about. That's why I personally am so bloody frustrated by all of this. We simply don't have time for these kind of personal vendettas, point scoring and letter writing back and forth,

like some kind of, I don't know, glorified pen pal. We've got a country that we have to save, Dan. That's what's really, really, frankly, annoying me at the minute. I nearly said summit stronger there. Look, I think where I stand on this is that I obviously don't know how things work internally within reform, but I don't think reform likes people who are on the whole very supportive. I would put myself in that category. I voted for them at the last election first to say Nigel Farage should become prime minister

and probably will become prime minister in 2029. They don't like much criticism. And I think sometimes at the early stages of movement like that, you need a little bit of criticism, certainly when it comes to GB News. I mean, they are completely cucked and captured and the off communists make it impossible to do anything. But actually, so does the weak management. So I think she's very right when it comes to that sort of gb news framework everyone

sort of has to exist within a system i was even watching some of their coverage about the netflix show adolescence and they had to say something like oh you know yes it is terrible all of these incel white boys and i thought really? Is that really an issue? Like, do you have evidence to back that up? Then there's the issue of Matt Goodwin, who's been causing quite a lot of consternation on the right. I mean, this is a guy actually, I mean, I do have a lot of respect for him, but let me show you what Katie Hopkins has to say,

and I'll sort of explain it, then get your verdict, Darren. So Katie Hopkins posted, when you need the nasty, wasist online right for clicks and attention, but also want to fellatiate Farage and TV News, the truly shocking thing is the treatment of Rupert Lowe. And then she posted a whole load of posts because people were responding to the fact that Matt Goodwin had written, the shocking numbers keep coming more never before and seeing data on what mass immigration is doing to our country. But the replies to Matt Goodwin and what Katie was referring to, because they said things like, but reform aren't going to do anything about it,

are they? And what is reform stance on this? All you were doing is spouting the obvious, but as always, no solutions. Rupert Lowe, well done for starting the ball rolling. I guarantee your questioning has started this. Should we deport them, Matt, as a question? But Matt Goodwin has now hit back at that criticism, and I think it is worth me taking you through it. I don't particularly agree with his position, but it is a position that at least we can discuss. So Matt Goodwin posted a week ago, more than a few people who live their lives on Twitter suggested it was over for reform. Today, reform is averaging a very healthy 25% of national vote and has led both Labour and the

Tories in two of the last five polls. There is, in other words, every chance that reform will win the next general election. As I said, Twitter is not real life in the sense that most people who congregate on Twitter are not representative of the real world. Some people on here, including unfortunately young people who appeared promising, but have now shot themselves in the foot, have disappeared down rabbit holes. They have lost sight of what is really going on in this country, how ordinary people out there are thinking and feeling, and what is actually required to win a general election under a first-past-the-post system in which people have never been socialised into the idea of voting for a populist alternative. Those people are being played. Voters clearly see it differently.

They want a genuine, radical, but responsible alternative to the uni party and are now starting to rally behind it in enormous numbers. Adding 10 points to what a party polled at a general election only a few months ago is enormous. Adding 160,000 grassroots members in a few months in an era in which mass party memberships were supposed to be a thing of the past and now having 100,000 more members than the Tories is enormous. Creating over 450 branches up and down the country also in a matter of months is enormous. Nobody who has been sniping away on Twitter this last week has ever come close to doing anything like this, to building anything like this. And where I stand on this is I do agree with some of what Matt says, but ultimately, Darren Grimes, and this is always where I'm going to come from, I'm an independent journalist.

And if I see injustice, if I see false accusations being weaponized against someone like Rupert Lowe, and if I see a policy position like mass deportations, I think wrongly being walked away from I'm gonna say it and I think it's a little bit naive of Matt to sort of say oh Twitter's not real life when actually his movement has been totally built by what he's done on X by what he's done on subset that is the new way now that you do build political movements and public opinion. Yeah, it might lag a little bit behind where we're at on X. But look at what happened in America. It quickly catches up. Absolutely. So I agree. I wouldn't dismiss everybody on any social media platform. You know, as I say myself, I spent an awful lot of time on there. But look, I think I

should say for the record, Dan, I have absolutely no desire to perform a sex act on either Nigel Farage or GB News for the record. I would just say, Dan, at what point, and this is a genuine question that I would put to you, at what point has Nigel said that people here that come over in small boats who've arrived illegally and have absolutely no right to be here, at what point has he ever said that he would allow them all to stay as Prime Minister? Well, he has said that he doesn't believe in mass deportations of illegals. And he was pressed on that by Stephen Edgington actually ironically on GB News so it all depends what the definition of mass deportations is and I do think there's been a little bit of gaslighting going on from both sides actually from both sides but certainly the gaslighting from I would say the Matt Goodwin Nigel Farage side of the argument is saying that people like me and

people like Rupert Lowe are suggesting that entire communities of British nationals who have not committed a crime should be deported. That is simply not the argument. Now, it comes from a tweet or a post on X that Rupert Lowe made where he did talk about deporting communities, but it was specifically in reference to communities involved in the rape gang scandal if people were found to have covered up those crimes. So for me, if we're talking about mass deportations, what we're talking about is mass deportations of illegal immigrants or dual nationals who have committed a crime. And that's when, Darren, you get to the polling from GB News that shows actually 99% of Reform UK members agree with that position and 66% of

the country. So it's not a niche position. It's just not. It's not. look the on the point of you know deporting people if they have known about a crime and they're not notified the authorities i actually think dan that that would set a really dangerous precedent where ultimately people who i don't know if i for example we've just been talking about tommy robinson if i hadn't alerted the press that there had been some breach of his, the libel laws or whatever else he's been done for over the years, am I going to get risk of deportation or something like that? Ultimately, you can't. I think the five year rule, the right to remain has to be looked at again. I think five years when we've got asylum cases longer than the queue for a bus in London on match day is absolutely absurd, right? I think that needs to be changed and reformed, for want of a better word. But the idea that you can just get, even Trump isn't getting rid of absolutely

anybody. In fact, Dan, I've seen criticism of Trump from members of the MAGA right saying that he's not going far enough or fast enough. So and he's ramped up the rhetoric around this over recent days saying that he will do this. So there is a reality where you can't just say we're going to get rid of absolutely everybody that's come here. It's it's just fact. But what you can do is say if you are here illegally and you do not have the right to be here or if you've received right to remain over recent years and that's just as a consequence of you being in this country for longer than five years because the asylum system is is backlogged then that's not right and you ought to be sent back packing where you came from or be that France, whatever else. But you have to deal in facts and reality.

And I'm afraid that it's easy to say things, but is it easy to put things into practice? There are many people I find utterly reprehensible and totally disgusting. And the rape gang scandal and those that did know about it and did nothing would be high up there, if not at the top of my list of priorities. But what can it say to some British citizen who's like a second generation immigrant to this country? Well, we're going to get rid of you because, you know, you knew about this and didn't tell anyone. They didn't ultimately perpetrate the crime. So I think that would set a pretty awful precedent. And Nigel is right to query and question that. The accusation of sycophancy, you know, I have, as you know,

I was at GB News for three years, and I never felt that I was part of this GB News, how is it Katie describes it, framework. I never felt that I was in that framework. So I don't really accept that. I think actually I was on the outer edges of GB News because I didn't follow a certain framework. So there are those of us who don't buy into this, but also actually just want to see the best possible outcome for the country, which actually means that we save said country. Because right now, the inheritance that earlier this week, Paddy Hemingway, the last of the few in the Battle of Britain, passed away at 105. The inheritance that he handed down to our generation is being utterly squandered.

And I think reform are the best opportunity we've got of actually having a revival, a recovery of some semblance of that inheritance, because I don't think we could look that man in the eye were we to meet him in the next life and say that we've done anywhere near enough to actually justify the four times that precious man was shot down by the Nazis for what for what we've squandered what he did for us so that's my position that's where I'm at if people are saying that I'm fellatio, committing fallatio on TV news and Nigel Farrow. Let's not even put that thought in our head.

Darren Graham, stand by. Just I guess a final word from Rupert Lowe himself because he did clarify I think that difference that we're discussing here. Rupert Lowe says, we don't just need to deport those who are arriving legally.

We need to deport those who are here illegally. There is a significant difference. Stopping the boats is only one small part of what needs to happen. Radical change is required. Now, Darren Grimes is very angry about this new Netflix series Adolescence, which I think is being used now. I absolutely think is being used as part of a campaign against young white boys. We're being gaslit again, folks. So we're going to discuss the Adolescence scandal. It's really fascinating,

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series Adolescence, which is increasingly being used by British politicians to try and gaslight the population into thinking that the real threat to women in this country comes from young, white, straight boys, which the statistics simply do not back up. Front page of The Sun today, the brilliant Ali Ross writes, in mainstream TV dramas, the only roles for straight, working-class boys are as thugs or bullies. Jack Montgomery posted that it's laughable that Netflix made this kid the face of teenage knife murders in Britain and predictable that MPs were only taking an interest in the issue with this packaging. Because of course, we know in reality that

the 13-year-old knife murderer was based on a black killer. And actually, African Americans in the US are angry about this discrepancy too. Folks, this has got to be the first time I've seen woke-ass Netflix switch out a black character for a white male lead. I've never seen it. This is unprecedented right here. But then when I did a little bit of research as far as exactly what show they decided to do that in, I was all of a sudden unsurprised, unshocked. As the outrage grows, former British Prime Minister Liz Truss has now weighed in on the series, writing, the Prime Minister will have a national discussion on a fictional drama about a teenage boy,

but will not have a national inquiry on tens of thousands of girls being raped and tortured by majority Pakistani heritage gangs. Where is his moral compass? Well, we know it doesn't exist because Martin Dabney has been crunching the numbers on this to prove that the media hates white boys. He writes, adolescence once again sells the toxic lie that British men and boys are poisonous, misogynist, rapists and waiting, all due to porn and Andrew Tate. Never do these cowards address cultural misogyny. Never poisonous Islamism. And then he delivers the facts. And the facts are that Afghans are 22 times more likely to be sex offenders versus Brits. Foreign nationals are 71% more likely to be sex offenders. There are 50 nationalities more likely to sex offend versus

Brits. And he says, where is the Netflix doc about this? The media and political outrage, the policy or action to protect British children, women and girls. Joey Barton responded to a post saying the murderer who inspired this was sentenced last week, by the way. And Joey said Stephen Graham's program is getting loads of praise, but it seems for knife crime in the UK, he got the young actor wrong. Was he too afraid to cast it correctly? And Darren Grimes of Darren Grimes Unleashed says he is furious about this, writing about Hollywood's anti-male propaganda and posting a picture which suggests Netflix believes that all men are the problem.

And Darren Grimes joins me on this now. Darren, do you think there is a purposeful demonisation of white working class boys happening with this Netflix series? Because it's now being used as a political football. They're saying that this show should be broadcast in every school, that it should be broadcast in Parliament as if it's a documentary. Well, funnily you mentioned that actually, because Sakiya Starmer was asked about it at Prime Minister's Questions this week and he stood up and he actually said he announced it was a documentary.

Well, it's not. And he also said he watched it with his daughter, who, by the way, Dan, is far too young to actually be watching it. So, oops, a bit of a cock up there from the prime minister. But, you know, I just think all of these things add up to a story that I've seen for many years now. You know, I've been told countless times of white privilege. You know, I'm the grandson of a miner, someone that went down the pits when he was in his early teens

and has been told that actually, you know, my brother's been in and out of factory work fighting against foreign labour, that they're somehow privileged because of their skin colour. Now they're told that they are violent, that they are sex-obsessed, that they hate women. Well, all of my family and countless scores of people in fatherless homes throughout this country are brought up by women.

And I imagine millions of them would say they quite love their mothers and have respect and admiration to them for bringing their families up completely on their own, a task that is unenviable for absolutely anybody. So I just say how utterly ignorant, how utterly insulting to the millions of young men that aren't the psychopaths that they're being painted as, that don't self-loathe because they happen to have some form of pale skin. The problem is that the killer in adolescence that it's based on is that Netflix decided was too inconvenient for their narrative.

So instead, they rewrite reality. They slap a white lad in the villain role, and they call it a drama series. But sure, we're the ones misrepresenting things according to the left who are posting about this. And as your tweet said there in that list you presented, what a fantastic piece of evidence from Martin Daubeney. When it's a grooming gang raping young girls, certainly it's not a cultural problem. There's no need for a Netflix drama. There's no need even for a government task force. But when it's a white bloke in a fake script, suddenly every single lad in Britain is a ticking time bomb.

I even noticed that in the drama itself, the lad that convinces the police officer, who is the son of the investigating officer, who convinces him of the use of emojis as some kind of incel movement, is the sort of hero of the whole story. So throughout it, it is the young white kids that are painted as being uniquely bad. I detest what this says to these young fellas who are already being told... Do you remember, Dan, after Sarah Everard was horribly murdered

and they all were protesting with saying that all men are the problem effectively. That's what I'm hearing now. The narrative coming out and being told to young lads is that they are a unique evil, that they have an inherent evil within them because of the nature of the colour of their skin. I can think of nothing more racist than that sentiment that's been expressed by so called progressives out there today. You know, Stephen Graham thinks that he's done a great service to women and the world. I don't think he has. Women need men. Women need men who aren't afraid to be masculine. That isn't to say that they are misogynists. That's to say that they're strong enough to actually be there for children, to be there for women, to be masculine is to be incorrect,

faulty, incompatible with modern life. Well, to hell with that. That's the bloody reason that we're in this mess to begin with. Stop demonising men. Stop demonising young white boys. Leave them the hell alone, you bigoted racists. That's exactly what you are. Very well put, very powerfully put. I think my issue, Darren, is that it is being treated as a documentary rather than a drama, because actually I did enjoy watching it in the sense that it is beautifully made. I'm not disagreeing with any of the people who say that, and I thought the acting was great. But my huge issue with this is that it's not being treated as a drama. It is being treated as a documentary. And the worst thing about the hard left, Darren, is they now want

to use this work of fiction to quite literally change laws in the United Kingdom to take away freedom of speech. Isn't that always where the left go, Darren? This is Stephen Graham and the creator of the show being interviewed on the British Passion Corporation, who have fully embraced the message of court. You mentioned at the start of the interview, you hope people pay attention to this. Yes. So parents, teachers, government. Yes.

What would you like them to pay attention to? Well, in Australia, they're doing this thing where they're implementing this digital age of consent and they're trying to, and that would mean preventing, making it the social media company's responsibility to prevent kids accessing social media until they're age 16. We need to be doing the same here. The research in this show required going into the darkest holes of the internet.

It doesn't take long to access. And these kids are being polluted by this stuff. And we need to stop that pollution. And parents can do a lot. Schools can do a lot. But actually, I think as a parent of an almost nine-year-old, we need government to do something because they need to control the conversation on this one. There's that beautiful saying, it takes a village to raise a child. And Jack twisted that narrative a little bit. And Jack said, it also takes a village to raise a child. And Jack twisted that narrative a little bit. And Jack said, it also takes a village to destroy a child. So I think we need to, you know,

we're all accountable to some extent. Presley, Darren, regulation, more regulation, police the internet. It's the solution for everything on the left, even though this isn't actually the real issue when it comes to the safety of young women in the United Kingdom. Absolutely not. No, it's not. You know, the fact of the matter is, I said at the time when the Tories passed the online safety bill, Orwellian in nature and in the naming of that particular piece of legislation, that it would be utilised and weaponised by the Labour Party. And Dan, I'm afraid to say that, you know, Sir Keir Starmer saying that this is a documentary, you may well be right. This is deliberate. This is so he can actually start passing legislation that maybe criminalises and comes up with a definition of

misogyny, as well as a definition of Islamophobia. We're in a deeply troubling time for speech and debate out there in the real world. You know, are you not allowed to crack jokes? Is that going to be deemed misogynistic if a young lad cracks a joke about a woman? You know, all men being the problem. If you disagree with that sentiment, are you going to be questioned? What I found really, really troubling was the questioning of this young lad in the drama and the questioning being things like, you know, well, along the lines of the incel culture on the Internet. cannot find a massive amount of evidence to suggest that young British lads are being completely taken in by a online incel movement, or that even that many of them are completely devoted to Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate identifies as a Muslim. I don't think all young British lads are identified.

And when you look at the Prevent analysis, and obviously Prevent is a completely failed organisation, actually, we know it is the Islam threat, which is an issue with young British men. But what I want to show you now, Darren, and we'll watch this together, it's going to be painful. I've got a couple of examples of this. It's the left finding a way to twist and to turn adolescents to make their ridiculous points first up the vile joe media there's a lot of right-wingers hating on adolescents right and i would say telling on themselves in in in quite in quite an acute and embarrassing way because the killer isn't black or a muslim, they don't find it convincing.

And these people are so daily male-pilled that they believe that it is white people who are being misrepresented in the media in relation to knife crime. When 64% of the black people that appear in the Daily Mail are criminals and shock 64% of black people in the population aren't criminals, which I think might be a bit of a misrepresentation. And I guess this is the problem for me. And it winds me up because the second that there is a popular portrayal of a lost boy that everyone is talking about and these people claim to care about they don't engage with it seriously they show the hollowness of their conviction right and they show that it's a grift they show that they're grifters because they go no no no uh what you're talking about here appears to be gender-based violence and we all know that actually when it comes when it comes to stabbing that's a black on black crime issue it's fucking embarrassing and it i'm gonna stop now but it

genuinely it makes me sick so you're just grifting darren grimes according to joe media yeah just grifting you know i haven't lived and breathed it i haven't been party to all of this you know i was dismissed as being a thick white racist because i backed Brexit. And this student podcast or whatever it is, other than this big brain take, white men aren't misrepresented in the media. Yeah, yeah, of course, mate, they're not. That's why they're the only group, Dan, the only group that you can demonise wholesale in the media

and no one bats an eyelid. It's why every single crime report bends over backwards to avoid actually mentioning details when it's not, crucially, when it's not a white bloke. That's why the rape gang scandal was allowed to go on for so very many decades. It's why white working class boys

are the most underperforming group in many of our schools up and down the country. And that lefty so-called clapback grifters, I mean, God forbid people actually believe what they're saying. You know, if you challenge the narrative of our cultural elites where you must be in it for a pound or two. And meanwhile, Joe Politics, they get paid a parrot the same tired old progressive posturing which goes down about as well as diane abacus on an episode of countdown would you know nobody wants it down and millions of us can see through this anti-white anti-male propaganda darren uh Darren, the fake news agents had the most ludicrous take.

I mean, don't you always find the left just think they want to turn back the clock to an era where they totally dominated? So according to Maitlis and Lewis Goodall, the big problem is just that young boys are no longer watching Friends anymore. That's the issue. The issue is the end of the old media, according to these two. Our editor was saying he was growing up, everyone watched Friends, right? That was the thing. It was a unifying coffee shop moment, right? And I think since then, certainly in the last sort of 10, 15 years, there has been much more a sense of this is the content for men.

This is the content for women. And men have come towards that content, as I say, sort of going back, because they are now feeling like the persecuted. They are now feeling like the ones who are misunderstood. They are now feeling like they have to recapture their sense of masculinity because it has been eroded by you know their perception of feminists telling them not to be so male and so we've got ourselves into an absolute mess here an absolute mess because feminists don't feel better right feminists do

not feel more safe now because i mean i'm going around going like we've won we've won that's not how it works i i think the point you just said about the different media worlds, it seems it's the crucial one. I mean, it seemed, when I'm sort of looking at, I mean, because this is such a new development and it's so fascinating and so striking, you've got to think something really dramatic has happened. It must have done, by definition.

And the only thing that you can keep coming back to is even by comparison to, yeah, my generation, millennials, the media landscape was so much less fractured. And there was no real sense, apart from like, I don't know, like some magazines, lifestyle things, lads mags, those sorts of things, which people actually, those were really controversial at the time. As to nothing, by comparison to some of the stuff that is on TikTok and, you know, Andrew Tate and whatever.

But apart from that, there was still, you know, there was no male television programs in particular. Darren, they just don't get it. Oh, no, they don't. I know. It's so tedious. So tedious. I mean, isn't it slightly hypocritical as well, Dan?

Because they are, they have broken off from the BBC. So they are part of the media fracturing that they speak of as being responsible for societal ills. Well, absolutely. And especially given now the ones that are constantly spreading hate. Exactly. Absolutely. And being part of that demonization. I go back to that point. Emily said that feminism, you know, as if they're going around saying that they won, there's nothing you can do about it. I go back to that point. All men are painted as predators by some parts of the ultra-feminist movement. All men are not predators. Millions of

men, most men, the vast, vast majority of men are perfectly decent people who are being demonised for the colour of their skin, for what they've got in between their legs, and for not being too masculine, for liking too many things that are associated with the male stereotype. And I say that, Dan, as someone who's less Tyson Fury and probably more Alan Carr, right? So I'm not to actually say that I think I am the stereotype of masculinity. I'm totally not. The only football I played as a kid was on a PlayStation. But the fact of the matter is, these kids are being told that to like hanging around with their mates,

to be lads, lads. The magazines back in the day, like Martin Daubney was the editor of, was it Nuts magazine, Dan? You'll remember better than I do. Or Loaded, one of those ones. I think Loaded. Yeah. Loaded.

But he mentioned controversy there. The idea that they were breeding grounds for incels or something like that or for people that go home and beat their wives. These were lads just looking at sexy pictures of women. I mean, for goodness sake, you know, that's a tale as old as time. There will have been men going back to the Roman era who saw a woman and thought, wow, maybe looked at a painting, a mosaic and thought, my goodness, isn't she something special? It's a tale as old as time. Sexuality is part of humanity. I just find all of this so utterly frustrating and so utterly, for want of a better word, actually, maybe it's the perfect word, emasculating.

And I don't say that as a good thing. There is nothing wrong with being a man. There is nothing wrong with being male. And the sanctimony from the screeching so-called new media. If this is the new media, Dan, well, I don't know why they left the old media because they think and parrot exactly the same bullshit. Beautifully put. And this is why we need the independent media. Andren grimes is now part of it sign up to his sub stack darren grimes unleashed you can find it at www.darrengrimes.com darren have an amazing weekend now it's time to reveal the worst britain in the world this week lots of comments coming in from you sandra price says prince harry high profile and always in the world this week. Lots of comments coming in from you. Sandra Price says,

Prince Harry, high profile and always in the news for what he does wrong. He never gets it right. He never seems to learn a thing. For someone who was born into wealth and immense privilege, he has lost virtually everything apart from his lovely wife. Now, at Gary5280 wants Farage on the list. He says his actions over the past two weeks

haven't exactly helped Great Britain much. Who else do we have here? Peace and Love 303 says that all Labour MPs are the worst for not putting in their letters of no confidence in Starmer and removing him and doing a reshuffle in their party. The Labour Party bully gang, they're a bully gang that likes to attack our most vulnerable in society. First pensioners, now are severely disabled and severely mentally ill. They clearly don't like British farmers. They're their own target for now. Who is next on their agenda? So lots of anger at Labour. A reminder of the nominees, we have Nadine Dorries. She was the union jackass on Tuesday because of her attack on Rupert Lowe. We have Prince Harry. He was the union jackass on Wednesday because of the cover

up over his immigration files. And then yesterday, Shabnam Mahmood, the justice secretary union jackass because of her court case against Tommy Robinson. The results are in third place with 5% of the vote, Nadine Dorries, because look, I think she's got it wrong on Rupert Lowe, but I'm glad you have gone with that actually, because I actually think Nadine Dorries is really decent on the whole, just totally disagree with her on Rupert Lowe. Second place, the runner up, Prince Harry with 37% of the vote. But the worst Britain in the world this week is the Justice Secretary, Shabnam Mahmood, with 57% of the vote.

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