Dan Wootton Outspoken - FURY AS MSM CONTINUES BIGGEST COVER UP AS LBC LIES ABOUT SCANDAL & TOMMY ROBINSON HITS OUT

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Go to https://ground.news/outspoken to see through media bias and stay fully informed. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access this month. Britain’s corrupted MSM and elite class sti...ll do not get it – doing all they can to deny and obfuscate over the worst scandal in British history: The full scale cover up of the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. Even the author of the new report Baroness Casey is disappointingly buying into the dishonest left-wing narrative. Dan will take on why the cover up continues in his Digest. Then joining Father Calvin Robinson on today’s Superstar Panel, grooming gang campaigner Raja Miah, who has risked it all over this issue. PLUS: Britain is now clearly in moral decline as abortion is decriminalised after a 46-minute backbench debate in the House of Commons. AND: Lorraine Kelly under fire for her cold and soulless announcement of the death of the late great Kim Woodburn. Dan will show you what happened on ITV Daytime and explain the reasons why. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Buckingham Palace hits back at Meghan Markle’s claims that she wants the truth about her time in the Royal Family to be revealed. We’ll team up with the Royal News Network for all the latest, including what’s behind Catherine, the Princess of Wales, pulling out of Royal Ascot today. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 gangs? They're not all Pakistani. Plenty of them are white and plenty of them are women on and off. You see women in the group as well. Listen John, nobody is denying that there are grooming gangs in all of... I'm not suggesting it isn't. No it isn't 90 to 95 percent. It isn't John. And also John. Also... what they're doing to drugs, getting them involved in drugs and pimping them out, they are done by Pakistani grooming gays. Not only, not only. And even the author of the new report Baroness Casey is disappointingly buying into the dishonest left-wing narrative. ... say empirically about how accurate that charge is, that there is a particular problem and that this problem is centred around Pakistani men. So I would just urge enormous caution of the opposition leader making political football
Starting point is 00:01:55 out of anything, which sorry that's quite a tough thing to say, I just wish people wouldn't because at the heart of it is the victims and then Pakistani heritage communities. So I'll take on why the cover-up continues in my Digest next. Then joining Father Kelvin Robinson on today's superstar panel, rape gang campaigner Raja Mia who has risked it all over this issue. Also coming up on the show today, Britain now clearly in moral decline as abortion is decriminalised up until birth after a 46 minute backbench debate in the House of Commons. Meghan Markle's BFF and the godfather of Princess Lilibet, Tyler Perri, an ardent critic of the royal family, has been accused of sex assault. So what will the fake duchess do now? And Lorraine Kelly under fire for her cold and soulless announcement
Starting point is 00:02:51 of the death of the late great Kim Woodburn. I'll show you what happened live on ITV daytime and explain the reasons behind it. Then in the uncancelled after show on Substack, Buckingham Palace hits back at Meghan Markle's claims that she wants the truth about her time in the royal family to be revealed. We'll team up with the Royal News Network for all the latest, including this worrying, slightly worrying, breaking story today. And we'll find out what's behind Catherine, the Princess of Wales, pulling out of royal ascot at the last minute. So you can sign up to watch on Substack right now, www.outspoken.live,
Starting point is 00:03:28 sending all of our best wishes to Catherine, the Princess of Wales, and hoping that she is okay. We'll also reveal today's greatest Britain and Union Jackass at the end of the show. But you know, it's chosen by you. So you can vote on your nominees or on the winner from the three nominees right now
Starting point is 00:03:44 in the live chat on YouTube. Here's who is fighting for the prize that no one wants today. Sheila Fogarty nominated by Boggy Wood who says she's a shining example of stupid who still doesn't believe that the rape gans are Pakistani. Kurnurinder Kher nominated by the Griff report because she's gone very silent when the Grooming Gang report was published, probably realising she's on the wrong side of history like the rest of the lefties. And Tonya Antoniazzi nominated by History Nerd 89. She's the reason why the MPs voted to legalize abortion.
Starting point is 00:04:26 He calls her sick and evil for tabling this amendment in the first place. And I'm sure Father Calvin Robinson is going to have much to say on this shocking development a little bit later in the show. So do stick with us. A big, big day of news. So let's go.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Without Elon Musk, I actually think it's impossible to believe that slippery Stama's degenerate government of the falling United Kingdom, where abortion is now not criminal, even up until the moment of birth would have been forced to U-turn on launching a national inquiry into the worst scandal in British history the full-scale cover-up of the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. Musk now free of his Trump administration constraints posted on X, high time there was justice for the mass rape of little girls in Britain, this moral stain cannot be washed away. But shockingly, appallingly, but almost horrendously predictably, the reaction from the Westminster
Starting point is 00:05:37 establishment and corrupted British MSM suggests that's exactly what they're attempting to do. Wash this moral atrocity away. As my friend and former GB News presenter Colin Brazier outlined brilliantly on Musk's free speech platform, listening to some MSM presenters triangulating over their coverage of the grooming story is like being back in Iraq and listening to the deranged regime apologetics of comical Ali. It didn't matter what was happening on the ground. Ali could find a way of defending the indefensible. Indeed, it feels like many of these compulsive liars refused to read the 197 page Casey report, which made clear in very sensitive terms that the issue is
Starting point is 00:06:26 indeed Pakistani Muslim men. Case in point one. Sheila Fogarty of the Labour Broadcasting Company who as Basil the Great posted, Caller says the majority of grooming gangs are Pakistani men, Sheila Fogarty says they're not. She continues to try and gaslight the nation with made up nonsense figures that the Casey report has rubbished already. Her time will come for the part she played in the cover up. Now if you don't believe that that is what Sheila Fogarty did, watch this atrocity, this new clip, that I think should finally see her banished from the airwaves.
Starting point is 00:07:02 finally see her banished from the airwaves. The whole of the country needs to know that there's gangs of Pakistani men going around targeting young white helpless English girls and hitting them on drugs and pimping them out to their friends and family and raping them 10 a day, 20 a day. Listen, listen, John. And all the scat clubs and all this other, we know that goes on. Yeah. This is the biggest scandal ever in this country. Do you accept that it isn't just Pakistani men? In the grooming gangs it basically is. No it isn't.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It isn't. Then you John haven't been watching the news closely enough. I have been watching the news. They're not all Pakistani. Plenty of them are white and plenty of them are women on and off. You see women in the group as well. Listen John, nobody is denying that there are grooming gangs in all of... I'm not suggesting it isn't. No, it isn't 90 to 95%. It isn't John. And also John. Also. The grooming games. What they're doing. The drugs, get them involved in drugs and pimp
Starting point is 00:08:08 it in a mat. They are done by Pakistani grooming games. Not only. Not only. Oh come on. You know what you're saying. That's all I'm saying. You can't be whitewashing this subject. I'm not whitewashing anything John. The other thing you've got wrong, John, the other thing you've got wrong, the other thing you've got wrong is to suggest that this has been happening for 20 odd years only.
Starting point is 00:08:28 This has happened for... It's happened for 20, 30 years. It's happened and 10 years before that and 10 years before that and 10 years before that and 10 years before that. There have always been... John, there have always been predatory men individually and together who always... This is a new thing. Always. This is a new thing. This grooming thing, this is a new thing.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's really not a new thing. She is a disgrace. Sheila Fogarty, this is your lowest moment. Because no one could read that 197 page report. I read every word. No one could read it. And take away from it that the issue is women or the issue is white men. But of course this is a line being peddled by the equally horrendous Susanna Reid on
Starting point is 00:09:19 Wokai TV's Good Morning Britain. I just want to ask you specifically, you say most of this abuse is caused by or perpetrated by men of Pakistani origin. The figures that I have seen show that most of this child sexual abuse is actually committed by white perpetrators, but there is a disproportionate amount of abuse of this type committed by white perpetrators but there is a disproportionate amount of abuse of this type committed by men of Pakistani origin. Are you taking issue with with that um statistic when you say most is caused by men of Pakistani origin? I just think we need to be careful with the terms here as well. So so you might be referring to some police data from 20- I'm sitting on motorway services.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Oh my god. Oh my god and we will come to Tommy Robinson in just one moment. The problem is for our elite class who have been lying over this issue for years, it's a painful thing to have to admit that they completely missed the scandal, that they got it wrong, that they accused anyone of telling the truth of being racist. Some of them, Sheila Fogarty, Susannah Reed, just cannot admit that. Then you have James O'Brien. Now Queen Natalie on X pointed out you can see the mental torture in his mind as he tries to restrain himself from labelling this caller racist. And I want you to watch for yourself what she was referring to and you can visibly see the pained expression
Starting point is 00:10:52 on James O'Brien's face as he understands that he will forever be on the wrong side of history. It's difficult to say I disrupted a paedophile ring, but a child disclosed sexual abuse to me and I reported it and by the time that everything had been checked and done, we found out that it was a massive family, an extended family group. They all lived in houses next door to each other or across the road from each other and when the police raided the place there was the top, you can imagine what old houses are like, they terraced houses, the police raided it and they knocked through the attics of four or five of the houses to make a video film studio.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Oh no. make a video film studio. And so, and the thing was, there were members of staff at the school when obviously it came out said, but I taught his cousin, I taught, I taught her I, it was boys and girls. And it turned out that they were, it was just a massive family group spreading out across the whole city. And they were using, they were using family friends. It was, it was as if they had grown up together, the adults had grown up together and knew that this was possible and just extended and extended and extended. It was massive.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He cannot believe what he's hearing and he knows that he can no longer accuse a caller like that of just being racist. Now what about over at the fake newsagents where Emily Maitlis recently accused Rupert Lowe for being racist for saying exactly the same thing as the Casey report now has. Pakistani Muslims raping working class white underage girls, do you not think there's an issue there? I think there's an appalling, appalling issue with grooming when it hits any community and any age.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Are you telling me there's no issue? I'm telling you that you are focusing on Pakistani grooming gangs because probably you're racist and you don't believe that there are white perpetrators of the same crime. Can you deny that? I am concentrating on it because it's a blot on our national history. It has not been properly dealt with. Isn't any grooming a blot on our history? Why don't you talk about anyone else? Why don't you talk about anyone else? Well, when the fake news agents had Baroness Casey on overnight, they unsurprisingly didn't label her racist, but what frustrated me is that she still played into their left-wing
Starting point is 00:13:36 tropes watch. You've got to be utterly responsible with data anyway, but specifically when it's around protected characteristics. Well I know this is difficult I think it's really important to be precise about this and I know that the data is imperfect one of the conclusions of your report is that the data is imperfect and it needs to be much better but at the centre of this the politics of this the political question which is constantly prosecuted we've even seen it be prosecuted this morning from Kamebe Beynat is that there is a particular problem with Pakistani men and group-based
Starting point is 00:14:09 child sexual exploitation. Has Kemi Bednok said that this morning? Well what I'm saying is that she has been out this morning holding a press conference saying that this has been ignored for political reasons for far too long and that therefore this is a source of, you know, it's been part of her cover-up and so on. From what you can see, what does your report say empirically about how accurate that charge is, that there is a particular problem and that this problem is centred around Pakistani men? So I would just urge enormous caution of the opposition leader making political football
Starting point is 00:14:44 out of anything, which sorry that's quite a tough thing to say, I just wish people wouldn't because at the heart of it is the victims and then Pakistani heritage community. Now look Casey's report is brilliant and it is very very sad for me that it's clear that she is a member of this elite class who is more concerned about social cohesion than actually admitting that someone like Tommy Robinson was right. ... worried about sort of racism that flows from that is actually a gift to racists. I mean, all of this is a gift to the racists. If, you know, if good people don't look at difficult issues, bad people will and even worse people will then exploit them. So that's my general view of difficult things I've been asked to look at in life and this
Starting point is 00:15:31 is now the other. So we established that and then I thought to myself or we thought to ourselves let's go and look at some of the large police forces where they have been, you know, there are sufficient numbers of child sexual exploitation cases of a group-based nature for us to look at can they collect ethnicity or not and yes they can. So that made me even more cross with the central aspects of this because if you've got two very large police forces and then Operation Stoverwood in South Yorkshire able to collect that data, why can't I have that data? Why is a previous Home Secretary or a previous policing minister or the Minister for Equalities, dare I say it, you know, why can't they look at that data and interrogate it if I just get on a train to West Yorkshire
Starting point is 00:16:23 and find it. But to be clear, does the data, such as we have, does it vindicate the idea that has been levelled for some years now that there is a particular problem among Pakistani men or groups of Pakistani men with group-based child sexual exploitation? There is enough in the audit of looking at these three areas and the disproportionality in those these are fully accurate details to take you to a position of disproportionality. So let's do Greater Manchester for a minute because I asked them to run two separate data sets for me. We've got live and
Starting point is 00:17:02 historic child sexual exploitation, group-based, very accurate, multiple offenders, multiple victims. It is significantly disproportionately Asian and Pakistani heritage. Okay, so we got there. We got there. But the problem is that you've got someone like Lewis Goodall now pretending to care about the facts when he for years has been an activist presenter accusing people like Suheila Bravaman of all sorts for stating the facts. You asserted that perpetrators of child grooming gangs in the UK were almost all British Pakistani. Now you had to, that was chastised, wasn't it? Entirely rightly because it was a false claim. Well I disagree with the ruling from Ipsos and subsequent reports and data has shown that to be
Starting point is 00:17:57 wrong. Lewis, what you're doing is you're zooming out, you're zooming out and you're looking at it from the broad umbrella. I put it to you again, you may say you disagree with it. What do you disagree about with the Ipsos claim that said that what you said about the clear majority of virtually all of grooming gangs being almost all British Pakistani, when Ipsos said to you that what you said was significantly misleading and the Maryland Sunday had to actually put in a retraction of it. What do you disagree about? Right, so again, Lewis, what you're doing is what you always do, which is why you've got a lot, you've called it wrong on a lot of political issues in recent months and years.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You're fixating on tone. I'm not fixating on tone, it's about facts, so it's about facts. Well, I've responded to your question about it,, which is I disagree with the reeling. They've based it on a flawed set of data. Now I will await the apology from Lewis Goodall, but we'll be waiting forever. Just like we'll be waiting forever for the apologies from scumbag liars Jess Phillips, Owen Jones and slippery starama too. Politicians, and I mean politicians, who sat in government for many years are casual
Starting point is 00:19:14 about honesty, decency, truth and the rule of law. Calling for inquiries because they want to jump on a bandw working of the far right. About vulnerable white girls being targeted by British Pakistani grooming gangs. Now that is the sort of thing you would have expected to read in BNP leaflets and which not that long ago would actually have been condemned by Tory and Labour politicians alike but we are in 2023 in the worst possible timeline. It's not true. It's really important to make this very very clear. Look, people have turned a blind eye. There's no two.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I'm not denying that. Including you? Absolutely not, May. I have never turned a blind eye. I never would shy away from calling a problem what it is. But what the Casey report has done is expose those scumbags and expose the official narrative while significantly boosting the credibility of those folk who were warning of the scandal for years at great personal cost.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Tommy Robinson has responded to this today writing I never wanted to be in a position of saying I told you so. I came out of prison all guns blazing after seven months in solitary and in all honesty it's hit me and I feel wrecked. I will be taking time with my children for the next few weeks and the news of the inquiry makes the way I'm currently feeling a lot easier to handle. But whatever any of us has gone through is nothing in comparison to what so many of Britain's daughters were subjected to. The public
Starting point is 00:20:50 still have no idea the true scale of this rape jihad. Well done to every brave survivor who told their stories and continue to fight for justice. This rape scandal is the darkest stain ever on Britain. Now, I take no joy in saying this, but the fact that the MSM, the fact that our elite class remain in denial over this scandal proves that we are unfortunately a society in decline. Now joining Father Calvin Robinson on today's Superstar Panel, another one of those brave men who put everything on the line to expose what went on with the grooming gangs, the campaigner, Rajamaya, who has risked it all over this issue.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Great to have you both here. Father Coven will come to you very shortly, but Raja, welcome to Outspoken. So many people have been asking for you to come on the show and it's brilliant to have you here. I want to get your reaction first, given everything you know, given everything that you have put on the line over the years, and I've watched your many interviews exposing exactly what you did when it came to this scandal, how do you feel when you see members of the elite class, like Sheila Fogarty on LBC,
Starting point is 00:22:23 still trying to say that this is actually an issue with white men or with women and just seemingly denying the reality of the scandal. They always knew, Dan, let's be clear, they always knew the truth and they hid behind these reports, these lies, these fake data sets and the platforms that they had and they demonised every one of us who simply saw this as children being systematically gang raped on an industrial scale, religiously justified, racially motivated. The scandal should shame every one of us, Dan, because no matter what I did, no matter what Tommy did, Maggie Oliver did, if he asked all of us, we will say we didn't do enough, we should have done more. Really? To these children. What happened to these children? But I mean you tried so hard and you were a man with great credibility for people who don't know you were advised the government in the past, you had an MBE, you're a member of the Muslim community, but yet you were rebuffed so many times, including by the way,
Starting point is 00:23:42 you were rebuffed by the mainstream media, weren't you? I am to all extents and purposes blacklisted from the mainstream media to this day. Not one of them will interview me. To my, my credentials are what they are, Dan, and they hate it because I am, you know, I do have an MBE, I sat in rooms with multiple prime ministers, advice secretaries of state, 25-year career in safeguarding children and protecting our communities from violent extremists. That's my world, Dan. And you're still blacklisted, even now you're blacklisted by the mainstream media? Worse than that. They falsified evidence, had me maliciously prosecuted, failed case
Starting point is 00:24:23 after case, collapsed against me, the mainstream media printed lies that had been arrested as part of a child sex exploitation ring myself. All of this happened, all of this was coordinated, the entire machinery of the state has mobilized, not just against me but against so many of us, and it's to facilitate this cover-up and what this cover-up is Fundamentally about is it goes beyond the grooming gangs. You've got to understand Our children were sold as currency for votes and that's what this goes to and that's why they're all hiding it This isn't just another child abuse scandal, you know, and that's as bad as it can be. Our children were sold to certain communities for votes in the main,
Starting point is 00:25:12 and secondly what you've got is this belief in a multicultural utopia that has clearly and comprehensively failed because... But they can't admit that can they? They will never admit that they'll take it to their graves they won't admit that but our and look at me look at the sort of person I am and I'm telling you the multicultural model that these people promoted has comprehensively failed because they never they never looked at these communities and said some of the barbaric behaviour and cultural traits that you have have no place here. Father Calvin Robinson, I mean, when you listen to Raj's story and then when you actually see the evidence of someone like Sheila Fogarty, someone like Susanna Reid, still in denial.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Even actually some of the language that Baroness Casey herself is using about this. It's very difficult to avoid the conclusion that the mainstream media is a huge part of the problem here. Of course it is, because it's entirely liberal. Liberals are the problem. Facts, evidence don't actually matter to them as much as their utopia that they want to build. They have this image of a world that they want to create that is better than the world that we're in, a world that will never exist. You know, communists have always had this idea of a utopia, and that is more important to them than the lives of these young survivors that have been groomed and raped and abused for decades.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It's abysmal that everything is, nothing is more important to them than their worldview. And so you can put the girls in front of them. You can put the evidence, the statistics, the demographics in front of them. It doesn't actually matter because in their head, they're saying this can't be true because it'll be racist. And if it's racist, it disrupts my worldview of a multi-ethnic, multicultural society,
Starting point is 00:27:02 of everyone loving each other equally and diversity, inclusion, equality, it's all maybe lovely, but it's not real life. In real life, there is clearly a problem with Pakistani Muslim men, in particular in Britain, grooming and raping and abusing young British girls. And this needs to be addressed. It can't be addressed if the Liberals continue to want to brush it on the carpet because it rocks the boat, a boat that they do not want rocking. So how do you respond to that, Raja, as a Muslim man? Well I say to you first and foremost, my lived reality is that not all cultures are equal.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And that's my experience and I believe that to be a fact, not all cultures are equal. And what I say to you, if you want to put the lens of a Muslim man on me, what I will say to you is this, there is a massive problem within the Muslim community in the way in which it views white culture, white women, white working class girls. There's an added cultural dynamic in this specifically within the Pakistani community and Tommy Robinson is right to use the phrase rape jihad. Elon Musk made reference to rape genocide, I think, when he referred to Jess Phillips at one point early in January. All of those terms are right because that's the worldview These are racially motivated crimes and they're religiously justified
Starting point is 00:28:30 they've gone into the scriptures and found the bits that that justify their evil and I am NOT a scholar. I'm not a you know an Imam or any of that type of thing I'm just a bloke who's trying to raise a daughter and live in a town and my I'm just a bloke who's trying to raise a daughter and live in a town and my in front of me was put a dossier of evidence by a man who's now departed Warren Bates who's passed away and I looked at him and he was desperate and I looked at myself and I thought can I walk away from this and I've come to this conclusion rightly or wrongly I I don't know, Father Kelvin might have a better understanding of it, but this is a fight between good and evil.
Starting point is 00:29:10 This is simply a fight between good and evil. And these people are evil and the people who protect them are just as evil, Dan. Exactly. And as you say, protect them for votes, which is absolutely in Jess Phillips case. This is 100%. they have protected these children for votes. I have got dossiers of evidence that clearly demonstrated that serving government ministers were complicit with BBC journalists in hiding how children in my town were being dragged off the streets, pulled into shisha bars, whether being drugged and gang raped in rooms that they rented out by the hour. They all knew Dan. And when Andy Burnham published his report, he tried to hide it, his assurance review, but it's in the report as well. They all knew. And now when cases come along, the reason why cases come along, and I'm overwhelmed by this, Dan,
Starting point is 00:30:03 the reason why cases come along is people like me and so many others, and I'm overwhelmed by this, Dan. The reason why cases come along is people like me and so many others and I've lost members of my team, they've died before this came. Dan, this is how long we've been at it. And they, we were relentless in our pursuit of getting this out and we campaigned and we campaigned and no matter how many times they arrested us, no matter what they wrote about us, how, you know, senior politicians in my town have direct links with organized crime from within this Pakistani community and Charlie Peters did an article in Peace not long ago, where he, you know, where he drew a correlation between the heroin trade and the rape gangs
Starting point is 00:30:44 and overlapping. This is all organized, it's been going on for such a long time and when if the truth comes out and we'll continue this till we die if need be done but once the truth comes out this government will fall and the Labour Party will be finished because they traded children for votes and it doesn't matter how many lawyers they sent to me, they sold children for votes. And you cannot forgive that. Father Calvin, good versus evil this battle? It is a battle between good and evil. The problem is good isn't fighting it, never mind winning it. At the moment we have all the evidence in front of us
Starting point is 00:31:25 that the Pakistani Muslim demographic makes up what, 4% of the population in Britain, but 65% of the child sexual abuse and child sexual exploitation. That is a statistic that needs to be addressed immediately. We're having debates about whether we can even have the conversation. I remember when I had my show on GB News,
Starting point is 00:31:45 the conversation was about, can you call them, you can't call them rape gangs, they're grooming gangs. It's like, we're arguing over etymology and language. What we should be arguing over is, how do we deport every single Pakistani Muslim in Britain if there's a clear problem with that particular community that is harming and raping our girls? We're literally allowing people to rape
Starting point is 00:32:04 young British girls for what? Not just for votes, for this Marxist utopia. We need to deport every single Pakistani Muslim, block the borders. No more Muslims from Pakistan can come into the United Kingdom. And those that have committed these horrible abuses, these horrible grooming and raping of young girls need to be hanged. We need to bring back the death penalty for this. This is how good fights back, but we're not willing to do it. We're barely willing to have the conversation. So I don't know how we're going to turn things around. 100% because the public are always ignored over these issues. Always ignored. Mass immigration, we've been ignored for 60 years. bringing back the death penalty, specifically, especially if you ask people if it's about a crime like this, a heinous crime like this against a
Starting point is 00:32:52 child, is overwhelmingly popular. But very few politicians are prepared to back it and you have to wonder why. 46 minutes. 46 minutes. That is how long it took for our degenerate political class to decriminalize abortion up until the day of birth in the United Kingdom. So yes, I hate to say it, I hate to admit it, but we are a society in decline and this was always what was going to happen if Slippery Stama was allowed to lead this country. But for the mainstream media, this is just normal. Look at the Politico coverage of this. They headlined this despicable development as No abortion wars please, we're British. And this was their reporting on the matter. Tonya Antoniazzi's amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill to stop women in England and Wales being prosecuted for terminating their pregnancies passed by a majority of 242 votes, 379 MPs in favour to 137 against. Women acting alone
Starting point is 00:34:08 to end their own pregnancy will no longer be prosecuted at any gestation assuming the amendment gets through the Lord. They wrote it marks the biggest change to reproductive whites in nearly 60 years and it wasn't even close. And I repeat, it took 46 minutes for this law to be ushered through Parliament. Belinda De Lucy posted on this, it feels like there is a death cult element to this Labour Party. They seem scarily determined to make it easier to take life. There was no movement or protest pushing for such a huge change. it was not even in their manifesto. How could they? And Right to Life UK quite rightly shared this video of Jerome Mayhew. Watch.
Starting point is 00:34:58 In respect of our position on the vote that we've just taken, or the votes rather, we have to acknowledge that we have made a major change to abortion law, and yet that was on the basis of no evidence session, no committee stage scrutiny, 46 minutes, just 46 minutes of backbench debate, and a Government Minister wind up who refused to take any interventions. And that's when the chamber is full of single one-line debates. So can she give me advice on if we want to continue like this how can we approve our rules so we don't have this situation in the future? 46 minutes. This is a degenerate parliament and you know there were even
Starting point is 00:35:43 Conservatives who voted for this. Conor Tomlinson pointed it out. Eight conservative MPs just voted to decriminalize abortion up to birth in Britain. He's listed them there. Afro-Brandeath, Caroline Deinage, she should not be a conservative, terrible woman, Luke Evans, Kit Malthouse, Andrew Mitchell, Niall Shastie-Hirst, Ben Spencer, Laura Trott. He wrote, what are you conserving? If you're willing to let women kill unborn children, is there any tradition or taboo that you won't join progressive revolutionaries in breaking? Every one of them should have the whip removed. And actually so many women I respect are absolutely disgusted by this decision.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Sophie Kakorin posted, Reform can't claim to be the official opposition if their leader doesn't turn up to vote. In one of the most consequential and downright dangerous ones there is, you're not the official opposition if you can't be asked to turn up and actually oppose. That's in reference to the fact Nigel Farage didn't bother to vote. Former Reform UK member Maria Botel posted the list of MPs who are pro-murder makes me sick. This anger will not subside easily. How far will we allow our ethics to drop before we say enough? For the love of all that is holy, please please do not re-elect a single one of them. Former Prime Minister Liz Truss. This is horrifying.
Starting point is 00:37:08 It needs to be reversed. This is not what our country believes or stands for. Julia Hartley Brewer, the talk presenter. It's not a step forward in reproductive rights. This was responding to the Guardian political editor, Pippa Carrera. This is a legal challenge that 97% of women in this country oppose. How can killing a baby the day after it is born be murder, but killing that same baby the day before be a legal act? That's not feminism, that's madness. Sharon Davies, the Olympic legend,
Starting point is 00:37:42 swimming legend, posted, my granddaughter was born at 37 weeks. I'm horrified we have made it legal in the UK for healthy babies to be terminated up to the day before their due. Let's hope the House of Lords stops this. So euthanasia for our old and infirm and now anyone can get rid of their baby with no repercussions. This does not represent public opinion. Why are these things happening? I don't recognise my country anymore. And Sarah Vine linked this decision last night with the shocking case of Lucy Letbee, who, remember, I believe is innocent, but that's another story. She wrote, Lucy Letbee's youngest victim was born at 29 weeks. She died in her 30th week, and yet
Starting point is 00:38:26 parliament has today sanctioned the killing of babies up to 41 weeks of gestation. Where is the logic in that? Where is the morality? Why is one murder and the other not? Has anyone stopped to think this through. Back to my superstar panel now, Father Calvin Robinson, 46 minutes. Is this a degenerate parliament? It's incredibly degenerate. I'm trying not to be Jordan Peterson and cry on air, but this has hit me really hard.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I can't believe our country has fallen this far so quickly. And it's worse than these people, the tweets you've just read, it's worse than these people, the tweets you've just read, it's worse than these people realize because what it does is it essentially legalizes abortion and people will say, no, it's decriminalization, but it's not because decriminalization
Starting point is 00:39:13 without any penalty whatsoever. So in essence, it legalizes abortion for any reason, at any time, up to and during birth. So it's not even the people who are saying, well, your baby could be born one day day but the day before they could be killed. No, the baby can now be killed while the woman is on the surgical table with her legs open with the baby's head approaching they can cut open the head and vacuum the brains of the baby out or they can leave the baby on the side to
Starting point is 00:39:40 cry itself to death as they call it which is of course starving and and dying of thirst. This is just monstrous. It is sheer evil that we have a government that has voted this through with hardly any debate, just clearly pushed it through, and the opposition didn't oppose it. In fact, the opposition, well, not most, but some of the opposition, voted for it. I'm absolutely disgusted by our country and I think if our King truly was a defender of the faith he would dissolve parliament immediately. I can't think of anything worse than killing the most vulnerable in our society, which of course
Starting point is 00:40:14 is the unborn baby, and to allow this, to decriminalise this for any stage, right up until the moment the baby is being born. It's are we we are it's inhumane. Raja, Maya how do you feel about this? I have a daughter, I was there at her birth and when she you know when she was born clearly there was you know there's a soul there I believe in all of those sorts of, you know, life is sacred. I am a firm believer life is sacred and what you're seeing here isn't just evil, what you're seeing here is a consequence of brainwashing. There's a generation of our people, two generations in this country, who've gone through a very liberal, ultra-liberal in this country, you've gone through a very liberal, ultra liberal education system that has took them to a place where they think this not only is this normal but you know there you go for a woman's right to choose since when was killing a child a right, since when did that become a right
Starting point is 00:41:18 in this way and the you know you look at the small print and you can now also get pills. You can just get pills ordered that arrive in the post and you can just take some pills and that's the end of it. It's crazy. It's not just immoral. It's just the reflection of where our society is going. And we've got to ask ourselves why it's going there and is there anything we can do to save it? Indeed. Father Calvin, I wanted to play you what the Labour MP behind this law change said
Starting point is 00:41:58 in Parliament, how she framed this so that you can respond directly to her. So this is Tonya Antonasi-Watch. Madam Deputy Speaker, the public overwhelmingly support this change as well. I implore colleagues not to lose sight of the moral imperative here, namely vulnerable women being dragged from hospital bed to police cell on suspicion of ending their own pregnancies. This is urgent. We know multiple women are still in the system, awaiting a decision, accused of breaking this law, they cannot afford to wait. We have, Madam Deputy Speaker, a once in a lifetime generation, a once in a generation opportunity to put an end to this in a simple and secure manner. This is the right change at the right time. I implore colleagues who
Starting point is 00:42:55 want to protect women and girls and abortion services to vote for new clause 1. Let's ensure that not a single desperate woman ever again is subject to traumatic criminal investigation at the worst moments in their lives. There must be no more Laura's and there must be no more Nicola Packers, Madam Deputy Speaker. Father Kelvin, your response. Sir, she's lying. Firstly, I saw screenshots on Twitter of this person and people blaming this person for putting forward the amendment. I assumed it was a bloke, I actually genuinely didn't know
Starting point is 00:43:31 this was a woman. She's saying that a majority of the public support this, that's a lie, outrageous lie in the House, so she's manipulating the other members, her peers. She's saying this is a moral imperative. The moral imperative is to protect the vulnerable, is to be a voice to the voiceless, is to give people the right to live or to support their right to live, not to take that right away. And she's talking about vulnerable women. Well, the most vulnerable women are the ones who feel pressured and forced into abortions and actually the trauma that these women often suffer, these women and girls, often suffer as a result of killing their own baby. Sometimes they never get over that and so this
Starting point is 00:44:10 is actually not morally imperative, this is the opposite of that, it's monstrous. And of course she's talking about the consequences of the law, so people who have broken the law and had abortions in late term past the legal limit, of course, there should be no legal limit. Nobody should be killing babies. But there is a legal limit at the moment, or there was. And so women that broke that law suffered some consequences, not very severe consequences, unfortunately. But yes, there should be consequences.
Starting point is 00:44:35 If you kill a baby, there should absolutely be consequences. We need to make them all the more severe. So we need to help and support vulnerable women and girls so that they don't think that killing their babies an option And so they have alternative options and they have all the kindness and love and support they need But those the monstrous ones that do go forward with this they do need to suffer the consequences for it Absolutely, and it's a great shame on our nation that we have an established state church And I still haven't heard them speak out against this whatsoever
Starting point is 00:45:02 The Catholic Church has made an announcement and credit to them for that, although it was a bit of a tut-tut, it wasn't very fiery, but I'm waiting to hear from the Church of England and from His Majesty the King because someone needs to speak out against this. Will Barron Father Kelvin, what's quite interesting is there's a lot of folk on the left who are saying privately, I've been reading this in the mainstream media saying privately, actually, Labour don't know what they have just done here. Because isn't this going to put the whole issue of abortion back on the table in the United Kingdom? I mean, I know Nigel Farage didn't turn up to vote. However, he has said that he does not support abortion past 24
Starting point is 00:45:46 weeks. But Sarah, Sarah Pochon, who is the new reform UK MP for Runcorn and Howellsby has now said that she believes that 24 weeks is far too far into a pregnancy and she is calling for further term limits. So I know there's nothing positive out of a law like this, but do you believe that it now puts the whole issue of abortion in the United Kingdom back onto the table and makes it part of the ongoing culture war? Yeah, it is so monstrous, so overtly evil, that even the the lefties are a bit like, whoa, maybe that's a bit too far. So yes, it does bring the conversation back up, because we've had this elitist snobby mentality in Britain for a while now that we don't do the abortion thing.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's what the Americans do. We don't debate that. Like it's beneath us or something to want to protect vulnerable life. And so yes, the conversation is back and we have to be aiming for abolition to abolish abortion entirely. We live in a medical marvel age in that there is never, ever a reason in Britain to be killing a baby. People say, what about if the mother's life is at risk? The mother's life is never at risk in terms of,
Starting point is 00:46:54 you need to kill the baby to save the mother. That is never the case. But also, mothers should want to protect their baby, even at the risk of their own lives. People say, what about in the cases of rape or incest, which account for roughly 1% of all abortions in the UK. So it's not even the majority reason, but even if it was, you know, rape is awful and the man should be hanged if he's raped a woman. Yes, kill the man who raped, kill the rapist, don't kill the baby. The baby is innocent in this,
Starting point is 00:47:21 the baby is vulnerable, the baby did nothing wrong. And so if someone has to die, it should be the rapist, absolutely. And in terms of incest, again, you've got to have different situations to solve the problems, not kill the baby who is a consequence of the problems. And so in this modern age, there should be absolutely zero abortion in the West.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And unfortunately, it's one of the greatest killers of people in the West. We have over 200,000 abortions every single year in the UK. More people die of that than of anything else, including COVID. It's absolutely absurd that we're letting people get away with infanticide and promoting it as a good thing. A woman's right to choose,
Starting point is 00:47:56 a woman's reproductive healthcare. It's not reproductive because it's killing reproduction. It's not healthy because it's killing a baby. It's not caring because it's killing a baby. It's not caring because it's killing a baby. And it's not a right. No one has the right to choose to kill someone else, to end someone else's life. What kind of right is that?
Starting point is 00:48:12 We all have a right to life, and that right is God-given. It's not from the state. It's not from the House of Commons. It's certainly not from any individual. It's from God. And so no one else has the right to take that away. Breaking today, Meghan Markle is under growing pressure
Starting point is 00:48:30 to speak out after her best friend and the godfather to Princess Lilibet was accused of sex assault. Now this is Tyler Perry. He is of course the famous American entertainment industry figure and the revelations coming from TMZ which reports he's been sued for sexual assault by an oval actor who says he suffered for years at the hands of this man. Now why Meghan is coming under pressure here is because she has a track record of throwing very significant friends under the bus at the slightest sign of trouble.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I mean do you remember Jessica Mulrooney, her best friend before her wedding, so much so that her daughter Ivy was one of Meghan's bridesmaids. She was immediately kicked to the curb, never to be seen again, at the slightest hint of racism during the Black Lives Matter scandal. And by the way Jessica Mulrooney in my opinion had done nothing wrong. Now the evidence that has been reported by TMZ or at least the allegations are far far more shocking than anything Jessica Mulrooney was ever accused of. Indeed, the publication has produced a whole load of text messages between Tyler Perry and this man which I'll go into in one moment.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Now Tyler Perry is not a good guy here because do you remember he was the one who popped up in Meghan Markle's Netflix documentary with Prince Harry and absolutely tore to pieces the British royal family indeed saying that he would not have agreed to become the godfather of Princess Lillibet if it meant attending the christening in Britain remember that would have been a christening that would have featured the Queen the late Queen watch this We'll call and we'll chat we'll talk about silly things and they were pretty serious on the phone I go okay What's going on? I said well we'd like for you to be Lily's godfather I go I'd take a minute to take that in and I Thought I'd take a minute to take that in. And I thought I'd be honored. I'd absolutely be honored. And I got off the phone, took it all in, then I called him back. I go, uh, hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Does this mean we got to go over there and do all of that in the in the church with them and figure all that out? Because I don't want to do that. Maybe we can do a little private ceremony here and let that be that. And if you have to do it there then it's okay. So let that sink in. This is a man who believes that he is so holier than thou, so high and mighty, who has brought into all of Meghan's total lies about racism within the royal family, so much so that he did not want to attend a church of England christening attended by the to attend a Church of England christening attended by the head of the Church of England, the late Queen Elizabeth II. Yet these revelations from TMZ, this lawsuit paints Tyler Perry in a very different light.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Let me take you through the accusations. Tyler Perry, TMZ reports, facing sexual assault claims from an actor on his long-running TV show The Oval, yet Tyler's camp calls this a scam. Derek Dixon filed a lawsuit against Perry and in the docs he claims he and the director met as an event back in 2019. In Derek's words, Tyler picked him out of the crowd and asked for his phone number, suggesting he might have a role for him. As it turns out, he did. Derek says Tyler gave him a small role in two episodes of a show called Ruthless. Then, in January 2020, Derek says Tyler invited him to his Atlanta home and he accepted, hoping to build a friendship that would lead to more acting gigs. But according to the suit, while there, Derek drank too much and ended up sleeping
Starting point is 00:52:29 in a guest room. In the docs obtained by TMZ, Derek claims Tyler got into bed with him and started touching his thighs, and although he rejected the advances that night, he claims Tyler remains interested. Shortly thereafter, Derek says he landed the role of Dale in the Oval, great for his career, but he claims it was around this time that Tyler also started firing off sexually suggestive texts, including asking what Drew's sexual preferences were, and telling him he has sex with men. Derek also notes his character Dale was written as a gay, homeless, and desperate store clerk who had to sleep with other characters for a place to stay. He claims that's exactly what Tyler told him he was looking for in a real life sexual partner, someone who would
Starting point is 00:53:13 be loyal and dependent upon Tyler. Derek says he feared his career would be derailed if he flatly rejected Tyler, so instead he told him he just wasn't the sexual type, but he was always terrified he'd lose his job if he complained of sexual harassment. To that point, he says Tyler once again invited him to Atlanta later in 2020 and things allegedly took a dark turn. Derek claims Perry greeted him warmly but quickly started a sexually charged conversation like asking him if he likes it rough in bed, and then grab Derek by the
Starting point is 00:53:45 throat while saying look how excited you just got. He says he pushed Tyler away and that was the end of that alleged incident. The lawsuit includes years of text messages allegedly sent between both men, most of the ones Tyler allegedly sent are sexually charged. For example one reads no straight man would be going on walks with you or cooking dinner for you unless they wanted to F you. I would F you. The most aggressive incident allegedly went down in June 2021, again at Tyler's Atlanta home. Dixon was staying in the guest house and wearing only his underwear when he says Tyler came in to give him a good night hug. He alleges Tyler yanked down his underwear,
Starting point is 00:54:25 groped his butt and said relax and just let it happen, and assured him it wasn't going to hurt. Dixon says he managed to rebuff this advance by changing the subject. According to the suit, Dixon finally filed a complaint with Equal Employment and Opportunity Commission in June 2024 and then quit the Oval saying he could no longer put up with the alleged sexual harassment. Dixon is suing Tyler and Tyler Perry Studios for quid pro quo and workplace sexual harassment and sexual assault and battery and he's seeking $260 million in damages. Tyler's attorney Matthew Boyd told TMZ this is an individual who got close to Tyler Perry for what now appears
Starting point is 00:55:04 to be nothing more than setting up a scam, but Tyler will not be shaken down and we are confident these fabricated claims of harassment will fail. However, you can imagine there's already lots of talk in royal circles about exactly what type of guy Tyler Perry is and whether Prince Harry may have experienced any of these advances. Queer Lips of Truth posted, I wonder if Tyler Perry and Prince Harry had similar encounters? And I can understand why people would ask that question. So let me return to my superstar panel now, Father Calvin Robinson and Raja Maya.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Father Calvin, the problem that Meghan Markle has here is that she is so holier than thou with anyone else. The slightest hint of an accusation means she throws people under the bus. By the way, including her own father, including her own sister, including her own brother, these accusations against Tyler Perry are incredibly serious. Now, you know, because of my personal experience with false accusations, I of course believe that he is innocent until proven guilty. However, it almost feels like Meghan Markle is just planning to ignore the entire thing because Tyler Perry is a very famous, very rich celebrity who has given her access in the past to his home, his mansion
Starting point is 00:56:22 and his private jet. What do you make of these claims? It is incredibly sleazy, but that entire industry is incredibly sleazy and debauched, isn't it? But you're absolutely right in that he is innocent until proven guilty, but it will be interesting to see how much of a good friend she actually turns out to be.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And if she is going to be there and support her friend or even be passive in the relationship and still say things like he's innocent until proven guilty, or will she just throw him under the bus and cut all ties as she has done in the past? I suppose time will tell very shortly. Rajamai what do you make of this? She won't cut, she won't throw him under the bus. The relationship is worth too much to her and just looking at her from a distance and following this story. She's
Starting point is 00:57:05 a particular type of woman, Dan. I'm sure there are men like that as well, but she's a particular type of person and currency. She judges relationships and currency and what she can get out of it. And she'll be making those calculations, I think here, first and foremost. Yeah, indeed. And I mean, look, the problem is, Father Calvin, it's like, is Meghan Markle going to say, oh, there's one rule for my very famous friends, and another rule for the friends that I feel like are disposable? Well, we know that she's always looking out for herself and what she can get out of situations such as where she lives and the people she hangs around with in LA.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And you know, using her friends like Oprah for puff pieces and calling it journalism and staying in Tyler's properties and such. So who knows? I don't know. But I don't trust her to be acting in good faith. Let's just put it that way. Well, no, I don't either. But I think, Raja, for me, as a gay man, this is also an example faith. Let's just put it that way. Well, no, I don't either. But I think Roger, for me, as a gay
Starting point is 00:58:05 man, this is also an example of why it's just better to be very honest about who you are. Because of course, I think everyone in the industry knew that Tyler Perry was gay. But for some reason, he's been hiding that he hasn't admitted that. And I think that's where you get into issues. Yeah, it didn't suit his image, his persona. I mean, it's all false, isn't it? All of this is false and it's a false world.
Starting point is 00:58:30 It's a sleazy world. It's a sleazy industry, isn't it, Don? Indeed, which is why, Father Calvin, can I just get your response to his absolute chic at claiming that he is almost too, on too much of a moral high ground to even countenance the fact that he might attend a Church of England christening for Princess Lilibet that would have been attended by the late Queen Elizabeth II. I mean, who does this guy think he is? I didn't understand that. That was very strange. When he was invited to be a godfather, he's like, yeah, I'll do it, but I'm not gonna do it
Starting point is 00:59:08 if you're gonna do it over there and do it properly. Yes, that's exactly what he said. That's not your place to dictate how they do the ceremony. Either you accept the privilege or you don't. And actually, I don't know if he's in a place to accept it. To be a godfather, you have to be a Christian. You have to promise to make sure that the child is raised in the Christian faith. That's the promise of God. It's not just an honorific title that you join the party, it means something. And so I don't know if he's in a
Starting point is 00:59:33 position to actually be a Godparent, to be honest. Father Gov. Robinson, Raj and I do stand by, because coming up in just one minute, I know a lot of you were very touched yesterday by the death of our good friend, Kim Woodburn, my favourite guest really across all of my shows. But there's been a huge scandal brewing all day over the reaction that Lorraine Kelly had when delivering the breaking news live on ITV. I'm going to show you what happened and show you why it happened in just one minute. You don't want to miss this, don't go anywhere. But first, the great thing about having you here on Outspoken is that I know you're awake to the massive problems with the mainstream media
Starting point is 01:00:16 and the disturbing realities that just mean it's impossible to trust the so-called fact-checkers who try and dictate the narrative. Now, given we love the news and we do want to be informed but no longer believe so much of what the establishment gatekeepers tell us it can sometimes leave us in quite a predicament. Don't worry I have an amazing solution for you it's called ground news it is the best way to stay informed and cut through media bias and manipulative narratives so you can get the facts for yourself. Now I use ground news every day. I have it in my phone as an app and in my bookmarks online on my
Starting point is 01:00:49 laptop and my desktop computer because it's become so essential to my daily life. You can see it for yourself at ground.news slash outspoken. I've got an amazing offer for you in just one moment. Before I tell you about that, I want to show you this incredible website and app in action. So let's use the shocking story, you know, a story I'm very passionate about, of the incarceration of the UK's political prisoner, the grieving mother and housewife Lucy Connolly, who remains behind bars after one tweet and had her appeal rejected, sparking outrage across the world. Now you can see in one place, 37 sources covering covering this story but what ground news does is instantly show how the story is being covered by the media broken down by whether they lean to the left or
Starting point is 01:01:29 the right. It's called the bias distribution chart. Then if you scroll down you can actually see every headline about the story along with the political bias and ownership of the publication. Interestingly and promisingly in this case 32% of the sources are independent. The left covered the story predictably. Wales online flagged her racial hatred, the Daily Mirror went full on political propaganda with the headline Tory councillor's wife jailed for tweeting set fires to hotel, losers appeal bid. But the coverage on the right leaning outlets far more accurate. Guido Fawkes tapped into the horror of Stama backing the 31-month sentence for one tweet, and the Daily Express said
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Starting point is 01:03:06 But now, back to the show. Breaking today, growing fury over Lorraine Kelly's completely inappropriate death announcement of the late great TV legend Kim Woodburn live on ITV yesterday. Now I was really shocked by this and horrified because of course I appeared on Lorraine's show for 10 years, but Kim Woodburn was a very special woman to me, a total legend of the industry who came from being a working class cleaner to one of our on-screen favourites. And my god she was outrageous and I loved the fact that she would burst the bubble so often of prissy tv celebrities especially those working for ITV daytime which is clearly the reason behind Lorraine Kelly's disgust which I'm going to get into in just one moment. But John James on X was the first
Starting point is 01:03:57 to point out exactly what Lorraine did it's now gone viral he wrote I know you're phoning it in until your contract ends in 2026, but at least announce Kim Woodburn's death without sounding like you're talking about road works on the M4 southbound. And indeed I was actually, and remember I know Lorraine well, I was actually so shocked that she even agreed to read it because let me tell you, if you hate someone that much, that you cannot even show one ounce of sympathy or empathy about their death. Remember this is not a murderer. This is not a criminal. This is not even a politician who you don't like. This is a celebrity beloved by many millions who you have an issue with because she's previously called out your employer.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Then you know what? Say nothing. Say nothing. Refuse to read the statement because I'm sorry Lorraine this just makes you look so bad. Watch. News just breaking in the last few minutes. Kim Woodburn who I'm sure you know well she's died at the age of 83. Famous of course for How Clean Is Your House and her controversial time on Celebrity Big Brother. A representative for Kim said it is with immense sadness that we let you know our beloved Kim Woodburn passed away yesterday following a short illness. Here with stories that have got us all talking this morning. Lorraine Kelly you ain't all that dear, you ain't all that. And that was the reason behind Lorraine Kelly's underwhelming death announcement. Here's the full clip of what Kim Woodburn said on GB News. Look my love, she's a stupid, stupid woman.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Let's face it now. How old is she? 63. She's like a child in a playground. He is in there, he's doing a splendid job. He's polite and courteous. He's done the trial and got every star. Leave him alone. Lorraine Kelly, you ain't all that dear. You ain't all that. And Lorraine isn't used to being called out. And indeed, I know for a fact, because it was during my time at Wokai TV, that Kim Woodburn challenged the Loose Woman in a shocking on air confrontation. And as a result of that, I know that she was blacklisted at the broadcaster, she was despised at the broadcaster. And they were very at the broadcaster and they were very, very
Starting point is 01:06:25 sensitive to her ongoing criticism because really most celebrities are not prepared to call out Wokai TV but Kim was because as she told me many times both on and off screen, Dan I don't need the money, I'm a cleaner. I spent decades of my life scrubbing other people's toilets. I never believed that I would earn thousands and thousands of pounds for appearing on screen. And what that meant is that Kim was prepared to say the unsayable about some people who were considered untouchable in the TV industry, including for a period of time Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby, even though people
Starting point is 01:07:00 know the truth about those two now. So this was what Kim Woodburn had to say about that loose woman confrontation. I mean it was quite... It was terrible. And another thing, her sister, you see, when I walked out, I thought, I've been lied to because there was Janet Street Porter with her, a judge's what have you. I thought, this is a mickey take. I thought, this is not to settle anything. I've been stitched up. Then I saw her, that fig of a sister, who was leaning on her shoulder, mocking me.
Starting point is 01:07:38 She was going... I thought, what is this? They'd set me up that TV company. They told me it was a peaceable. Why was her sister, you've never seen since on with her, leaning on her shoulder, sniggering at me, Dan? She was mocking me, sniggering as I was a piece of filth. There was down at Street Water with this damn thing. Dan, they set me up. They wanted a show. They bloody got one. They set me up. They did. And well, I'll never forget. And it's a hard thing to say. I was very upset. And I said,
Starting point is 01:08:14 they continue this. They would continue this. I thought you fool pigs. And that was Kim's final interview, by the way, you can watch the whole thing on my YouTube page. But it wasn't just on my show that she was prepared to be open about the truth. I mean, here she was telling a podcast about exactly why she decided to expose, and that's what she did, Holly Willoughby and Philip Schofield....the truth. They were not asked to cover the Queen funeral. They sneaked in and they put these darn imitation, press things they got. So they sneaked in because they wouldn't stand in a queue. They're far too high and mighty. It is true. Don't listen to another word they say. They were not contracted.
Starting point is 01:09:11 They were not allowed to film. Nobody was, so they did sneak in. And so they should have lost their job because there's many a person standing. There were people in wheelchairs. David Beckham as well waited in the queue. David and many famous people. And so Susanna Reed, her mother was in a wheelchair person standing there with people in wheelchairs. David Beckham as well waited in the queue. David and many famous people. And so Susanna Reid, her mother was in a wheelchair and she
Starting point is 01:09:30 stood with her mother for six hours. And I think that's a lovely girl. And I think, but when those two think we're so high and mighty, we could sneak in and people in wheelchairs, I'm disgusted. It's very, yes. And that did it, you two. Get you. I don't want to let you. And oh my goodness, they didn't like her as a result. My superstar panel back with me, Father Kelvin, Robinson Rajamiah. Father Kelvin, look, someone's just died and this is a good person. Okay. Now Lorraine Kelly might not like her because of her previous criticism of herself or of ITV daytime shows, but can you understand why there is this growing fury
Starting point is 01:10:15 over the way that she announced her death? It was almost as if she was talking about, you know, let's imagine if Myra Hindley had died, for example, not a beloved celebrity of millions, who remember found fame, Calvin, as a cleaner on How Clean Is Your House. It was a brilliant showbiz story, you know, a working class girl done good. Yeah, absolutely. I'm with you in that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. I don't understand why Lorraine had to read that out. She didn't have to have that on her show. So if you don't like the person you're speaking about, then don't bring it up, especially if it's an obituary. I think Kim Woodward was fantastic, I think she was great fun, she was always good to see on your show and I hope she rests in peace
Starting point is 01:10:57 and may light perpetual shine upon her. Routabaya, what did you make of Lorraine's announcement and can you understand why there's so much anger about this today? I think probably Lorraine underestimated the popularity of Kim Woodburn who in recent years has become almost like a cult-like figure. She's a legend. I mean, I enjoyed her every time she ever said anything. I thought I'm going to sit down and listen to what she's got to say because she was forthright, wasn't she? And she wasn't polished. And she and I think that's what set her apart.
Starting point is 01:11:32 And Lorraine clearly hated her. You could see she clearly hated her. And they also played the music, didn't they? You know, when she was just matter of factly referencing all while she's died, there was the music going on. So I don't think it was just Lorraine Kelly on her own. I think that entire world didn't really have time for her. And
Starting point is 01:11:51 you know, may she rest in peace. But I think what Kim Woodburn has done is like, well, there you go. That's I was right. And this is what these people really are like. Yeah. And it's a reflection of them rather than any reflection on Kim. Well, indeed, I just wanted to play you one more moment from my final interview with Kim, because it felt particularly relevant this week. She called out David Beckham, who is now Sir David Beckham.
Starting point is 01:12:16 And she really hoped that King Charles wasn't going to be sucked in to his PR attempts to receive that gong. And unfortunately he was what? I know people adore David Beckham. I don't know David Beckham, he's probably a lovely chap. If he crawls any more to get a knighthood he's got a permanent brown ring round his nose dear. And he's not in his sky. See this is the other thing that I can't stand. Do you remember what he wrote on that email and his image of the papers? Yes exactly that was the real David Beckham. But you see now you see the Queen of England wasn't fooled by this. Our Queen Elizabeth
Starting point is 01:12:58 bless her was not fooled by this she was a shrewd wonderful queen. I hope that King Charles, with respect to you, sir, I hope you're not fooled by him either. He's crawling all around you now, he's going to be fooled. He's going to be fooled. But he wants a knighthood. And Father Calvin, he was fooled! Kim was right, he was fooled! Unfortunately so, but this was one of many. We saw that our beloved Mayor of London was also knighted recently. Oh!
Starting point is 01:13:27 So it's not a sign of honour or duty or service to the nation anymore, is it? I wonder what the real process is and how these deals are made. Who arranges it and what actually they have to do in order to get it? I know, Raj, I know you have an MBE, which is very deserved, but can you understand why folk like me now feel like the honours system is just totally corrupt? Like I never thought I would say that, but I just, it makes me so mad these days. Sir Sadiq Khan, no way! Sir Sadiq Khan, who won't even admit, admit by the way that rape gangs even exist
Starting point is 01:14:12 The former chief executive of my town who's now moved on to same side came as the fixer from Blackburn where the rape gangs exist Came to all them to try and fix and manage the situation and now is in Tameside Angela Reyna's backyard He was awarded an MBE and I think it's all sadly It's all fixed and if it was my choice I probably wouldn't have taken it but my mother loved the Queen. We come from a family of you know people who respect the monarch, my mother loved the Queen and god rest her soul it was her proudest day of a son who'd caused her so much you know so much angst I think So I'm pleased I took it, but at the same time, I understand yours and Father Calvin's position. I think the system is rigged
Starting point is 01:14:52 and it's increasingly about back-slapping those. No, I mean, I so understand why you took it. My mum would do exactly the same thing. And especially when the late queen was there. Thank you both, by the way. So much brilliant feedback. Raj, lots of people saying, like Sharn Owen's here saying, Dan, please have Raja on more often.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Claire Mitchell writing, Raja has been working at the front line of this. He isn't jumping on the bandwagon like others can do. He wants the truth, not the likes. So please do come back. And Trish, Trish has said here, love Father Calvin, would love to meet him. Well, maybe you can one day, maybe you can one day when we have our first
Starting point is 01:15:30 outspoken event. Oh yeah, or just attend Father Calvin's church in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But look, thank you both so much. Absolute pleasure to have you. We covered it all today. We covered it all from the very heavy to the very light. Absolute pleasure. We will speak soon. And actually more feedback on this whole issue coming in from you. Emma Coutts on Shailor Fogarty wrote, that woman Fogarty is the most despicable. She should not be allowed to sit there and deny the truth. And on the abortion issue, Simon Brandy posted, let me get this straight. You can lawfully murder a baby, but go to prison for praying near an abortion zone? You couldn't make it up. And that is where we're at. That is where we're at. It's absolutely shocking. Now it's been a very tight run thing for Greatest Britain Union Jack has today. So here's a reminder of your nominee. Sheila Fogarty nominated
Starting point is 01:16:21 by Boggy Wood, who said she is a shining example of stupid who still doesn't believe that rape gangs are Pakistani. Narenda Kerr nominated by The Grift Report who said gone very silent when their grooming gang report was published realising she's on the wrong side of history like the rest of the lefties. And Tonya Antonazi MP nominated by History Nerd 89. She said she described her as a sick, evil woman who tabled this amendment. And yeah, gosh, gosh, what a plethora of options today. As I say, it's been very close. In third place with 22% of the vote, Tonya Antonazzi MP. The runner up with 38%
Starting point is 01:17:09 of the vote, Narenda Kerr. But today's Union Jackass for her ongoing denial of the rape gang scandal is LBC presenter, Sheila Fogarty. Now, time to reveal today's greatest Britain and it's on a similar theme. Perfect choice, brilliant woman, have so much respect for her. Sammy Woodhouse nominated by PaulSmill784 for being a survivor of the racist Pakistani rape gangs who found the strength to fight the cultural abomination after being abandoned by authorities and left at the mercy of protected Pakistani men. Honestly, Sami Woodhouse is one of those people who should be receiving every damn award going.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Because without her we might not be here. Without her we might not be here starting to discover the truth today and I know she's going to keep fighting and there's no golden gooses with Sammy Woodhouse. She's going for everyone who has some type of complicity in this scandal. Great show today, thank you so much for your company but don't worry if you're a royal fan we're moving to sub stack for the uncancelled after show. Buckingham Palace hits back at Meghan Markle's claims that she wants the truth about her time in the royal family to be revealed.
Starting point is 01:18:27 We're gonna team up with the Royal News Network for all the latest, including by the way, this breaking news, what's behind Catherine, the princess of Wales pulling out of royal ascot today. So at this stage, we move off YouTube and rumble. We move to Substack to continue the uncancelled after show at www.outspoken.live. Now we're going to be back tomorrow 5pm UK time live, midday eastern, 9am Pacific.
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