Dan Wootton Outspoken - FURY AS NIGEL FARAGE ATTACKER ESCAPES JAIL IN KEIR STARMER'S TWO TIER BRITAIN
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Life in authoritarian PM two-tier care stammers UK just gets worse by the day.
Breaking right now, the man who attacked Nigel Farage by brazenly throwing heavy objects at him
as he campaigned before the election has escaped prison, being handed a suspended sentence.
Meanwhile, Julie Sweeney, the grandmother and carer who sent a Facebook post after Southport,
languishes in a prison cell. As crime spirals out of control in lawless britain this labour government is proving they only care about
cracking down on one group of people and farage isn't happy about it is that why 147 000 people
in the last year have been given community resolutions which means nothing will appear
on their police records that includes offenses such as minor sex crimes violence and possession of weapons such as
knives father calvin robinson today's special guest for the entire episode as he provides his
forthright analysis also coming up today hypocritical bbc snowflake gary lineker says
he no longer feels comfortable expressing his hard left views because X is owned by Elon Musk.
And Katie Hopkins breaks down as she speaks for the first time about being cancelled by the Church of England.
And they came back with, for the avoidance of doubt,
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Cyprian Stalmer, the UK's authoritarian Prime Minister who hates one sector of the population,
a sector of the population concerned about uncontrolled immigration and an illegal invasion
of our border, well, he keeps insisting that it's just a figment of our imagination that the UK is
now beset by two-tier justice. And then we keep getting reminded that he's nothing more than a liar. Remember Josh
Greeley, the 28-year-old leftist activist who attacked Nigel Farage on the campaign trail as
he toured on a bus of Barnsley? Well, breaking right now, Greeley has just escaped jail for that brazen attack on our democracy, attempting to shut down opposition by
using violence. He was sentenced to six weeks in jail, but wait for it, that sentence was suspended
for 12 months, even though the district judge said the crime merited time behind bars.
Surely, if there was ever an opportunity to prove to the
British public that attacks on controversial conservative politicians are not acceptable,
especially after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, then this was the moment. But no,
because we all know two-tier justice is now prevalent.
So as the scumbag Greeley is set free, he will not spend a day in prison.
Julie Sweeney languishes behind bars.
You'll remember her, 53-year-old from Kidsgrove.
She lived a quiet, sheltered life in Cheshire,
primary caregiver to her ill husband, grandmother of three. She made an inappropriate comment on facebook in the wake of the southport
massacre that she instantly regretted and tried to delete also languishing behind bars david spring
the 80 61 year old sorry former train driver from sutton who had never been in trouble with the law
once in his life but confronted the police at a protest outside downing street even though footage
shows he did absolutely nothing violent.
And there's Sellafield worker Lee Joseph Dunn. This guy's in prison. Guess what for? Sharing
three memes. Not to mention the 67-year-old pensioner David Notley of Essex. He's behind
bars for 20 months for shouting, you're not English anymore at police officers. Now ironically it was Farage
himself who was calling out this sort of two-tier justice just last night. Is that why 147,000
people in the last year have been given community resolutions which means nothing will appear on
their police records that includes offences such as minor sex crimes, violence and possession of weapons such as knives.
Oh, and by the way, if you want to go shoplifting, that's absolutely fine.
Unless you nick 200 quid's worth, we won't even bother to have a look.
And whilst he's getting tough on violent disorder on our streets, well, Prime Minister, what about the 61 police officers
that were assaulted over the weekend at the Notting Hill Carnival?
That's nothing to say of many of the other things that went wrong
during that so-called festival.
And we know every day now brings a new criminal horror one of these people set free
or let loose seemingly for political reasons why white working class folk are made examples of
how about the story of muhammad hassan this scumbag berated three women, calling them prostitutes for not wearing traditional Asian
dress and putting on makeup. He then violently attacked them at a petrol station in Bradford.
But the 26-year-old also escaped jail after receiving a suspended sentence.
Meanwhile, Stephen Silverman has reminded us all, he's the guy from the campaign
against anti-Semitism, that police have still not tracked down the man who wore that Hamas 7
football shirt. Watch. Well, it is quite remarkable. And look, there's a general point
here on which one would hope the overwhelming majority of people would agree which is that inciting hatred of any minority
is completely unacceptable anywhere let alone in a civilized democracy yeah um be it on race
religion disability sexual orientation um gender preference threatening or actually carrying out
acts of violence against any minority is despicable. And it's absolutely right that people who engage in that kind of behaviour
should feel the full force of the law.
The problem is, is that for the last ten months,
and especially in London,
we have been watching a double standard being applied
whereby one form of extremism is clamped down on with an iron fist,
while another is treated with an
unacceptable level of leniency. Now, the result of that is that through any lack of real deterrence
through policing, a climate has been allowed to develop that is permissive with regard to
expressions of hatred directed not just at Jewish people,
but at Britain as well and at the liberal democratic values we all rely on to keep us safe.
He's completely true.
I think it's really horrifying and it was a really good point to make.
But of course, we have also seen the MSM and political establishment,
as Nigel Farage mentioned, tried to ignore the Notting Hill carnival carnage over the past two days, which saw, according to latest tallies, 334 arrests,
up from 275 last year, including crimes like three life-threatening knife attacks and five
more stabbings. So it was Jeremy Kyle who's actually, I think, summed up those double
standards perfectly. Here's what I don't get. 330 people were arrested. There were eight stabbings.
Three people are fighting for their lives. And over 70 police officers, men and women,
were stabbed, attacked, assaulted, whatever. And not one sign of Starmer's militia on the streets
of Notting Hill. Now, everybody who watches and listens to this station knows what I'm talking about.
Is that what we've come to?
Because that is two-tier goddamn policing.
Why were those 330 not dragged from their beds this morning
on Sky and every other television network
so that the country knows that that sort of behaviour in the streets is not allowed?
Or is it only if you're from the right?
This is what I don't get.
Good question. I don't get it either.
Is it only if you're from the right that authorities will take action after staunch political pressure?
Sadly, Jeremy, yes, absolutely. And meanwhile, life in lawless Britain grows worse by the day as real
criminals fear absolutely no justice whatsoever. I mean, look at the front of this young thief.
Leave it alone. Leave it alone. Huh? Leave it alone. Are you crazy? Walk away. Fucking old bitch.
Does anyone talk to the police then?
Do you want to stop him?
What?
He's in a bike.
He just didn't give a damn.
And last night there were gunshots in Enfield, North London.
So right.
He was so right.
He was so right. They killed him. Give me my phone, give me my phone, let me call the police, he's dead, he's running, he's running, call the police, call the police. Call the police.
It's unbelievable.
But then you think that according to the authorities,
they're really going to crack down on so-called hate crimes, right?
Rather than those sorts of violent crimes.
However, there's been no outrage over the very obvious hate crime, the anti-no-white graffiti that's popped up in Birmingham.
And as Colin Brazier put it, there is a modern dogma which exists where white people can only perpetrate racism while never being its victim.
Almost everyone, regardless of skin color,
knows this to be a fallacy. In coming years, this critical race theory will be tested to destruction. And that's absolutely true. Although I would say right now, it's the two-tier justice in this two-tier society that's going to destroy whatever social cohesion we had left first.
But now, let me bring in today's outsider.
And to discuss what is going on in lawless Britain to tear UK, I'm delighted to be joined by the conservative commentator, my friend, Father Calvin Robinson, host of the Fox and Father podcast and the Common Sense Crusade on Lotus Eaters. Calvin, lots to discuss today, but can I get your reaction first
to the attacker who targeted Nigel Farage escaping jail,
even though the district court judge said that the crime warranted jail time?
It's absolutely outrageous
that anyone attacking
anyone else in politics
should be arrested straight away
because we have to have
a safe place for people
to stand for election
and to represent constituents.
And the moment we result
to violence,
we lose the democratic argument
and therefore we are
removing ourselves
from democracy.
This young man who threw
these concrete bricks at Nagarvaraj should be in jail, should be in prison for what
he did. It's outrageous that a violent action like that with serious intent to cause harm
has been suspended and let off at the same time as all of these people that are getting arrested
for social media comments, whether it's hearty words on Facebook or misinformation on Twitter.
There's a clear message being sent by our police, by our judiciary,
by our politicians, and that is violence is acceptable,
but hearty words are not.
And we've seen this.
There have been headlines.
There was one in the Telegraph just this week.
Violent offenders let off if they apologize,
not charged by the police if they
apologise. There's a similar headline to one I saw in March as well. So it's not even a Labour
thing. It's just the establishment doesn't seem to want to deal with violent criminals. And that's
people who are hurting people and sexually offending against people. These are serious
concerns that people doing these things should be removed from civilised society.
Yeah, I mean, the thing is, there are just so many examples of it now, Calvin.
And of course, I think the Farage attacker is particularly shocking.
I mean, by the way, he claims that he was only throwing coffee cups, not concrete. But to me, it doesn't matter, Calvin, because the issue is you don't know what's in those coffee cups.
You don't know if those coffee cups are filled with battery acid, for example,
which is what Jo Brand encouraged folk to throw at Nigel Farage,
yet she received no sort of reprimand from the BBC.
But the point is, Kelvin, at a time when slippery starmer, two-tier carers, quite clearly demanding of the justice
system, disproportionate sentences for white working class folk who took part in the so-called
riots, surely this is also where he should be demanding the same sort of tough justice.
Absolutely. It is disproportionate.
If Jo Brand incites violence by saying someone should throw acid at someone else,
she should be arrested for that.
But what we see is people are arrested for potentially inciting violence
by using words that some may seem to be hateful or offensive.
It doesn't actually make any logical sense.
And of course, the
situation we're seeing with the so-called far-right riots, which were actually mostly
just ordinary working-class British people who are upset with the establishment. Anyway,
the situation we're seeing with them and the way they're treated versus anything else.
And this past weekend, of course, we had Notting Hill Carnival. I used to live up the road from
Carnival. I can account for the crimes that we saw being reported by the Metropolitan Police
this week but 230 plus arrests, three firearms recovered, over five stabbings, at least two people
left in life-threatening condition in hospital, that's just the start of it at least eight
sexual offences. And that's just the people that report what's
being done to them. And so how does Notting Hill Colombo get
reported in the mainstream media and or by the police and or by
our politicians? Diversity is our strength. This is a great
multicultural element of British society. What? So on the one hand, white working class Brits
express their disappointment with the establishment
and they get called for it, folks.
On the other hand, predominantly black Afro-Caribbeans
at Carnival cause mayhem.
To me, that looked like a riot with the stabbings
and the violence and sexual assaults
and guns being confiscated. And that's just,'s diversity that's a good thing how well with the guardian
calvin the guardian actually described the event on its front page has one big ball of happiness
oh yeah one big ball of happiness where you can be a mother with your daughter nearly stabbed to
death but calvin i was interested we saw it in in your post on X just a few moments ago.
I was interested that you said that if the event was predominantly white working class Britons rather than immigrants,
you think it would be condemned.
A hundred percent. And I say this as someone who's half white and half immigrant.
That if the case was Notting Hill Carnival was predominantly white working
class, the headlines on Sky TV, in The Guardian, on BBC would have been far-right thugs cause
violence, sexual assault, found with serious firearms, stabbings left, right and centre.
It would have been clamped down upon. The police would have been there storming it.
They would have been rushed through the judicial system. They would have been clamped down upon. The police would have been there storming it. They would have been rushed through the judicial system.
They would have been rushed through the courts, sent to prison immediately.
But because they happen to be mostly immigrants of African and Caribbean nature,
there is a soft-gloved approach.
And that doesn't make sense because people in this country want equality under the law.
Both white people and Afro-Caribbean people want equality under the law.
So why is the establishment and the mainstream media so against that well that's because they make an idol of diversity and i think
if we if we treat people equally then we're somehow racist or somehow going to cause a race
riot actually by not treating people equally is what's going to cause race riots now look i am of
course completely horrified by the fact that Nigel's attacker got off.
But I'd say I'm probably even more horrified by the fact that Muhammad Hassan has not been pictured anywhere.
But this is the 26-year-old Calvin who assaulted three women at a petrol station in Bradford.
Now, he was banged to rights, Calvin.
The attack, which lasted for 51 seconds, was captured on CCTV.
And according to the Daily Telegraph, and the details are so incredibly shocking,
he grabbed the driver, slammed her head onto the dashboard of her vehicle.
He then grabbed another woman's hair and punched her in the head
before hitting the third woman.
He did not go to jail, Calvin.
He did not go to jail.
And you know the reason that he attacked these women is because he said they were, quote, unquote, prostitutes because they were not wearing traditional Asian dress and were wearing makeup.
And this is the sort of ideology that we have decided to
import into our country. And this guy walks free.
It is British culture that men do not hurt women. It is British values that men do not raise a hand
to women because we see them as their fairer sex and we see that men are here to provide and
protect for women. That has been the traditional sense in British values. Some other cultures have values where women are lesser than
men and they can beat their women if they do not like what they see from their women and that's
what we import of people who share those values unfortunately that are directly contradictory to
our own and of course if someone does break the law, if someone does break our values, they should
be punished for that, they should be
punished for that. There should be serious consequences for any man who raises a hand
towards women. But to suggest that these women are prostitutes because they are dressed in what
he deems to be inappropriate, we can have conversations about what appropriate dress
for public is, but that's very different to selling your body for sex. It's just insulting,
it's offensive, and it's downright un-British.
Of course.
And guess what his sentence was, Calvin?
35 rehabilitation activities,
180 hours of unpaid work,
electronic tagging for four months
and £500 costs.
So that will deter absolutely no one.
Meanwhile, Calvin,
while all of this is going on,
the invasion of the UK via the southern border continues.
And again, you will not hear about this in the mainstream media today.
Nigel Farage, Reform UK leader, has posted on X, 526 people crossed the channel yesterday.
As I write, 11 boats are mid-channel, yet not a word from our Prime Minister.
Meanwhile, Calvin, and I don't really take him seriously at all,
but Tom Tugendhat, who is one of the people running for the Conservative Party leadership,
has now finally admitted that the military needs to be sent in to tackle small boats.
At the same time, we have Starmer, and I know as a Brexiteer
like me, you'll be furious about this, in Germany, effectively trying to reverse Brexit by the back
door. But he didn't acknowledge at all the fact that there is this fierce debate going on right now, Calvin, in Germany about migration after that fatal terrorist
attack in Solingen, where someone who claims to be an ISIS terrorist, who was a illegal immigrant
from Syria, knifed three innocent folk to death, stabbed multiple and finally this has caused folk in germany and
politicians in germany to suggest there is actually now a national emergency and that migration has to
be restricted but starmer doesn't mention a word of it he just says oh it was a terrible event
a terrible event well A terrible event.
Well, there's so many of these terrible events.
Aren't there now, Calvin?
No, this was an Islamist attack.
And thank goodness politicians in Germany are finally taking it seriously.
Finally.
But Germany have had this problem for a long time.
They've been at the forefront of all of this,
importing mass immigration from Mohammedan countries at their own behest and the population
has started to rise up against the politicians which is why the politicians are finally addressing
it but we'll have to do similar over here we have to make our voices heard because you're right
Keir Starmer gave a very boring speech he did not address the societal issues that everyone
is facing in this country or that most people are facing in this country it seems the elite
live in their own little bubble and then I love those memes you've got on the screen.
It seems the elite are in their own little bubble
and they don't see the problems
that the rest of us are facing.
And the knife crime is up.
In fact, all crime seems to be up
in most of our major cities,
to the point that as you address in your monologue,
we are seeing no whites graffitied on walls in major cities in
Britain. For goodness sake, we had this in the reverse, like what, 70 years ago when we fought
against it, we fought for equality, we fought for diversity in a true sense, and now it's all being
undermined because we've gone too far the other way and our politicians are afraid to address the
matter. Even thoughmadanism accounts or
islamism accounts for the vast majority of terrorism in the west our politicians are still
too afraid to talk about it well of course and let's be honest angela merkel basically destroyed
germany by opening the doors to illegals but what's really interesting to me is i'm looking
closely at what's going on there and you've got fred Mers, who is the leader of the CDU, Calvin, but possibly the next chancellor of Germany.
And it's not that long before an election there.
And listen to what he's saying.
And I think this is really instructive, actually. national law to turn away asylum seekers at its borders and says if that cannot be adhered to
then I am convinced we have the right to turn people back at Germany's external borders even
though of course they are a member of the European Union so if that discussion is taking place in
Germany my goodness it needs to take place here but Keir Starmer doesn't even want to admit that there's an issue, that there's a problem, let alone talk about sending the military in.
Yeah, Keir Starmer's talking instead about rebuilding Britain together.
What does that mean? It sounds awfully similar to build back better, doesn't it?
If he stops destroying Britain, maybe we'd have something to rebuild together.
But there is no together. There is a difference between the establishment of the politicians, the judiciary, the mainstream media, the police forces, versus the ordinary working class British folk.
And whilst there is no party that looks after the ordinary working class British folk, there will never be a together.
Unfortunately, we need to build that gap.
And Keir Starmer is not mandatory.
I don't understand how he cannot see what's going on around him. In
just under two months in office
he's caused more division than
we saw even throughout Covid or Brexit
and so when he refuses
to face up to these matters
the British people are going to get more and more
upset and we're going to see more and more civil
unrest. Those riots that they managed
to sigh up the end
of a few weeks ago, they will come back.
Yeah. And the thing is, look, as I say, I don't take what Tom Tugendhat is saying seriously,
because he had ample opportunity as a Conservative cabinet minister to lobby for this and quit
if Rishi Sunak wouldn't do what he wanted. But I do think what he's saying is correct.
And I think it's the first time I've heard it expressed in this way, Calvin.
So Tugendhat has said that the UK's national security demands the same level of commitment
that the Royal Navy showed in the fight against slavery almost 200 years ago.
And that costs the equivalent of around £50 billion a year.
And I agree.
If it's going to cost that amount of money to secure our borders, then let's do it. But the issue is, Slippery Stammer doesn't
want to secure the borders. He's made that abundantly clear. He wants to throw them open.
And we're going to see migrants, and I'm going to talk about this more over the coming days,
but we're effectively going to see migrants scattered all I'm going to talk about this more over the coming days, but we're effectively going to see migrants scattered
all around the country. They are coming
to your neighbourhood.
Well, indeed.
As for Tom Tuddenhart, I really like him as a person.
I don't always agree with his policies, but I do think he's
a good man. And we need these people
within the Conservatives to start speaking up
on these issues. And thankfully, he is starting to get a bit
bolder. And so
maybe they'll all take some encouragement from that, because do need to protect our borders we are not a country
without borders unless we define our borders we are just a partisan globalist smush of of everyone
living everywhere and that's that may be the future that some people want but it's not the
future that the majority of us want and so when he talks about using the military to patrol our
borders i'm like yes please let's have some of that. Of course, Keir Starmer is against it because he is a massive
verbalist himself. And he's already hinting at trying to rejoin some kind of relationship with
the European Union, which is, of course, more federalism and more globalism, when the British
Republic have made it very, very clear in one of the biggest mandates we've ever had in this
country, electorally, that we do not want to be a part of the European Union. But when Keir Starmer is taking us one direction, hopefully the Conservative
Party will start to wake up and say, no, we need to go in the other direction. But of
course, words and rhetoric are one thing and actions are another. The Conservative Party
has shown that they're very good sometimes at words or rhetoric, but they're not very
good at following through with actions. Whereas the Labour Party are not very good with words.
They upset everyone every time they speak, but they do follow through with their actions when they say they're going to clamp
down on people like you and I that's what they do unfortunately. Calvin leftists are getting
increasingly upset about Elon Musk's ownership of X the app formerly known as Twitter and of course
they're doing this thing that they always do which is come close to quitting or threatening to quit. Do you remember all of the stuff like, oh, I'm not going
to stay in the UK if Brexit happens? All of the celebrities said the same thing about Donald Trump
in America. It doesn't happen. And the latest is Gary Lineker, who is the biggest gobshite
on all of X. I think we can agree with that, even though it goes completely against the philosophy
of the BBC and the fact that he has paid all of our licence fee payer money and become really
famous thanks to the BBC to express these views. But now he's saying that because of Elon Musk,
he doesn't actually want to talk on Twitter, as he calls it. So he says, Calvin,
I've changed my habits on Twitter. I don't really
post my thoughts now because I think it has become not a very pleasurable experience.
There was a time you could have little chats with people on there and a bit of banter,
but now it is impossible because before I could have chats with people I either followed or were
blue tick people, but now everyone's got a blue tick, so that doesn't work anymore.
I've become a bit bored with it. It is a very unpleasant world and Musk is clearly
a very odd bloke. Yeah, you've got to be so odd, don't you, Calvin, to encourage freedom of speech.
Do you know what's happened, Mr. Lineker? X is no longer your little left-wing echo chamber and you
don't like it because you're challenged. And how terrible that sometimes you're even challenged by ordinary folk without a blue tick.
What did you make of this, Calvin?
Good. Leave.
But of course, you're right, they never do.
They always threaten to leave.
They always threaten to flounce off.
He's not going to go anywhere because he loves the platform.
He loves seeing his name up there.
Every time he sees something controversial, the newspapers are all over it.
Oh, Gary Lilliker said, why do we care what Gary Lilliker said?
He used to play football a long time ago we're over that and actually if the public knew some of the horrible stuff that he gets up to behind closed doors then people will
stop listening to what he has to say unfortunately he has much more yes he has much more expensive
lawyers than i am so i can't repeat on air the things that he gets up to but if people knew if
people knew however these celebrities that are sick and tired of having ordinary folk tweet them because, oh, everyone's
got a blue tick now. Well, good. What's wrong with a bit of meritocracy or equality? This is
what they're always talking, saying they're about, right? Equality of opportunities, equality of
outcomes. Yeah, anyone can buy a blue tick now. You don't have to be some lefty liberal to get
a blue tick. Surely that's a good thing. thing what do you not want normal people talking to you
why is that do normal people not share your opinions yeah indeed and i do really like the
fact calvin that you pointed out that liniker is a moral hypocrite because trust me he absolutely is
and where he's been very clever is ingratiating himself with key people within the mainstream media in order to shut down any critical reporting.
So I saw it happen at my former employer, The Sun, where he's become incredibly close to its editor, Victoria Newton, feeds her lots of stories on other people including stars of the bbc and so as a result she is slavish in
her devotion to only running positive stories about gary lineker which i find really hilarious
it's almost like the mainstream media is corrupt and implicit in all the badness that goes on in
the world yeah i'd say so go with whoever pays them the best box or gets them the best stories.
Yeah, indeed, indeed.
I mean, look, the thing that I just think,
Calvin, about all of these people
threatening to leave X,
just go.
You know, if you want to go,
Alistair Campbell,
if you want to go, Gary Lineker,
if you are that threatened
by actually being part of a genuine,
open, public square,
then go.
And go off into your own Alego chambers again but people like me and people like you calvin have been putting up with leftist trolling and
attacks on our free speech for years and years and years and actually it was only elon musk taking
ownership of that app which made us feel safe that we weren't going to be banned like Graham Linehan and Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson who all found themselves deplatformed at the behest of little snowflakes, actually. who couldn't handle an opinion, even though in many cases, Calvin, that opinion was simply to say
that a trans woman is actually not a woman biologically.
That got you bad.
Isn't it? They just don't want to level playing fields.
And that's all Elon Musk has brought.
He hasn't made Twitter far right or right wing.
He's just allowed a level playing field
that says anyone can have an opinion now
as long as it's not actual incitement to violence,
as long as it doesn't break the rules. He said we're not going to censor people just for being on the centre rise. And that's the way that social media
should work. Unfortunately, the other platforms aren't quite the same. But if we have a level
playing field, then we have open discussion, we have open debate, we can find out what
people really think and we can challenge each other and challenge our own ideas. That all
sounds quite positive to me.
But of course, all they want is an echo chamber of lefty love is the media
elite and the establishment all patting each other on the back and saying how
good they are for having open borders and raping society of all its resources.
How great that is that people can't get a hospital appointment or a dentist
appointment or can't get their children to the local schools or the churches are closing down and being sold into mosques. How wonderful our society is by
being destroyed by the lefty liberal elites because they're all sat there sipping champagne
as the champagne socialists do, laughing at how good their life is while everyone else is being
destroyed around them. Totally true. And speaking of champagne socialists, Calvin, I've got to talk to you because it relates to X about this guy, Theo Usherwood.
So do you remember he was a reporter, very Westminster bubble, sort of mainstream leftist liberal reporter who worked for LBC and for some reason now seems to be constantly on gb news and talk tv but he appeared on the sly news newspaper
review just after this terror attack in germany and i posted an egregious clip on x which showed
that his main concern was over the far right not over the people who'd just been stabbed the
innocence the fact that this
was an illegal assignment seeker the fact that isis was claiming responsibility but no his
biggest concern was the fact that it could embolden the so-called far right so this is the
clip that i posted on x this wasn't saturday it went viral watch When you look at something like this, you just really worry about how it could be used by those on the far right to stir up hatred, to look at this and say,
well, here's the justification. This is why this will be jumped on by those on the far right to
say, well, there's some justification to our cause. And that's concerning.
And nobody, you know, ISIS is a terrorist organisation.
This is plainly being treated as a terrorist attack, as it should be.
And the police and authorities should be able to do their work and bring the perpetrator, you know, whoever it might be, to justice.
But I do, you know, it is concerning, I think,
that potentially the way, you know, this could play out,
we've seen the rise of the riots in Germany, particularly, but also in this
country and across Europe as well. You know, Yasmin, I saw on social media earlier people saying,
what did this person look like? Now, were they asking to do a public service so people keep an
eye out if they are still at large? Or were they up to no good in asking that question?
No, and as you said, you know, the whole riots thing and how it was instigated.
And look, I'm a Muslim.
Now, Calvin, I found that whole exchange genuinely appalling.
I wasn't attempting to stoke anything or take anything out of context or be irresponsible,
but I thought it was absolutely critical to point out how the mainstream
media think about these things they are so deluded and so blinkered when it comes to the so-called
scourge of the far right that actually they are more concerned about that than genuine Islamist
terrorism I mean if you knew what had gone on in this German city, which Theo Usherwood did, to me, it's absolutely impossible that that's how you could feel.
You know, this terrorist who was a Syrian, illegal, working for ISIS.
Calvin, he literally went around with a massive knife and was slashing people specifically in the necks and their upper body because he was out to kill.
And prosecutors have said he was out to kill Westerners because of an Islamist ideology.
And he succeeded, Calvin, in killing three people.
How can your concern after an incident be like that, be about an imaginary far right in another country?
It's disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
First of all, for those three people who were killed,
may light petrol shine upon them.
And it's horrible that after their deaths,
the mainstream media isn't praying for them or raising awareness.
Mainstream media is painting a picture of a boogeyman
who didn't commit the crime,
who didn't perpetuate the crime. There was no far right criminal. This was clearly the opposite of
that. And so they're painting a picture that doesn't help anyone, doesn't help society,
doesn't help the victims. And it certainly doesn't help get the perpetrators locked up.
But everything about that conversation annoyed me. So Yasmin Alibari Brown, for example,
she's a well-known racist why is she on
the platform to begin with well because she's a muhammad so she's able to offer an apologist
viewpoint for the perpetrator the presenter on sly news wasn't asking questions um to find answers
he was asking leading questions in order to further push their left-wing view when he says
things like why were people asking what's
the perpetrator look like it's quite a natural question he's on the loose absolutely seriously
imagine lee harvey oswald just having murdered jfk in that assassination and the police wouldn't
release that this was a young white man don't be so ridiculous this guy was on the loose of course
you have to say what ethnic group he came from.
No, I couldn't agree more.
The bad thing, consumption, is just wicked.
But then also, of course, Theo, his whole perspective there
was not anything to do with the victims,
anything to do with the crime.
It was...
He is exactly why we have so many grimm gang scandals in this country.
His line of thinking, that we must not let this out,
we must not let people know the truth,
otherwise they will see the diversity.
Look away because it might upset people
and people might get angry.
Exactly.
But Calvin, look,
because this went viral around the world
and millions and millions of people
have seen that clip,
thanks to me shining a light on it,
I would have been happy to move on.
Apart from the fact, Calvin,
this dropkick, this loser, Theo Usherwood,
decided to go on to GB News last night, ironically, my old show, and claim, Calvin,
that I had in some way been intellectually dishonest in terms of the way that I presented
the clip. So this is what he had to say about that.
Let's watch along.
Terrible events in Germany.
I mean, terrible events in Germany.
Look, I just wanted you to...
I appreciate it.
Well, I hope you do, because I don't mean this
in a sinister way or anything at all.
I don't want you to come back to that,
because I know you a bit,
and I think the implication from that was
if you just look at that clip in isolation,
maybe the focus was, oh, I hope this doesn't whip up the far right
as opposed to what an awful terrorist attack this is.
Well, I called it a terrorist attack and I condemned it as a terrorist attack
and actually, you know, I'm not going to turn this
into some sort of personal back and forth,
but the clip was edited and at the beginning of my exchange
on sky news i called it a terrible event that had happened in germany so i'm unequivocal
in the fact that what what had happened was a terrible event it was a terrorist attack and it
was unfairly clipped and i pointed that out and you can see that on my twitter feed the point
coven it wasn't unfairly clipped i will actually show you how briefly he said it was a terrible event.
And what does a terrible event actually mean? Look at this.
Terrible events in Germany.
Terrible events in Germany.
Terrible events in Germany.
Terrible events in Germany.
Terrible events in Germany.
Terrible events in Germany.
So that was it.
That was it.
He didn't even breathe between words. He was struggling to was it. He didn't even breathe between words.
He was struggling to say it.
He didn't want to say it.
No, and he never pointed out that this was an Islamist attack.
Right, of course not.
And that we need to be concerned about the fact that this was committed
by someone illegally in Germany.
None of that.
As soon as he moved on to the opinion,
it became very clear that all he wanted to do was use this terrible terrorist attack to try and
effectively bring down a bogeyman, you know, the far right that doesn't even exist in this country,
actually, because the people who he's referring to are just ordinary folk who are worried about their children or their husband or their wife being stabbed to death by an islamist
like how on earth does that make you far right but calvin i want to watch on because then we're
going to come to basically the most bizarre three minutes of television I've seen where my successor on this GB News show
literally lets this guy come up with the most bizarre explanation as to why he said what he
said with absolutely no pushback. So let's watch along, Kelvin. The point I was making is that
if you look at what ISIS, if you read the story, there's a story in the Sunday
Express, and actually I've got Sunday Express fine newspaper, and they just reported it
factually, right? So I'm not making this, this is not a criticism of the Sunday Express at all.
ISIS are referring to this individual, this suspect, as a soldier. It read like a recruiting
leaflet for ISIS to say, here, if you do this, if you commit something like this, you're a hero, you're a
soldier. But it also read, and ISIS don't care for Muslims. They have no, for law abiding 99.99%
of people, Muslim people, they have no truck with this. And ISIS don't care for them. And they don't
care of any reprisal attacks. What they're trying to do is they are trying to pick away at the fabric of our society,
the fabric of our democracy. And they're doing that by trying to provoke a reaction.
And what they were doing, what that attack was about is trying to provoke a reaction to have
two extremes, where it's ISIS or on the far right. I don't care about ISIS,
I don't care about the far right.
The people I care about,
people, because I love this country, right?
These are the people I care about
and I don't want to get dragged into this
and I'm sure everybody at GB News
would share this sentiment.
I care about, let's just deal with ISIS to start off with.
I care about young Muslim men
who might be at home, isolated,
might be on their computer screens
watching YouTube,
and they might see this and think,
actually, I want to be a hero too.
I want to be a soldier too.
So I'm going to go and copy this.
And I also care about young,
white, working class men
who might be at home
and they might get a message
on their phone or WhatsApp
or Telegram saying, look at what happened in Germany.
Well, why don't you come? Why don't you do something about it?
Because if you don't do something about it, nobody will do anything about it.
Why don't you come down? We're going to go and protest down at a hotel of asylum seekers.
Why don't we go and have a, it might get a bit rowdy, why don't you come down and join us at that hotel and have a,
and we'll throw something at the police
or we'll try and set fire to it.
We're going to take the law into our own hands.
You know, Germany, this country,
we are modern, mature democracies
with effective intelligence services,
effective police forces, effective judicial systems.
The only response to an attack like this
is to let those agencies get on with the job and bring
individuals to justice. And if you're a young man and you're seeing that WhatsApp from a member of
the far right and you're saying, come down and take part in this, and you go and take part in
that camp, you go and take part in that right, you're a member of the far right and you're a
racist. But if you make the decision that actually that isn't the answer, that's not the way to do
things, and actually you're a law-abiding citizen't the answer, that's not the way to do things,
and actually you're a law-abiding citizen,
and yes, you're worried about immigration,
and yes, you're worried about the fact
we're spending £7 million a day on asylum seeker hotels,
and yes, you're worried about the fact
that there are small boats, crossings.
You could be worried about all those things,
but if you stay at home and you say,
actually, I'm not going to take part in the violence,
I'm not going to go and attack a hotel,
I'm not going to go and throw stuff at the police.
Then you're not a racist and you're not a member of the far right.
And you can voice it in a legitimate way.
And you can voice it in a legitimate way.
Absolutely.
Yeah, fair enough.
Theo, look, thank you.
I hope that clears it up.
Well, I think it does.
And thank you for...
Really?
Really?
It clears it up?
In what way does it clear up?
I mean, I didn't take that out of context, just to be clear.
I had to play you that full horror show.
I mean, not only is the guy being intellectually dishonest,
but I actually think he's proving my point.
Because yet again, he's creating some sort of bogeyman
and effectively saying that Brits should just sit back
and do absolutely nothing and trust the authorities that have let
us down for years and years and years. And that's different between going out and firebombing a
hotel. There is a happy medium there, Calvin. This guy is clearly delusional. He thinks that
terrorists attack our country or any country in order to provoke the far right what first of all there
is no far right in the united kingdom secondly terrorists attack because they want to terrorize
they want to destroy they do not like our way of life that's why they attack us they're not
provoking the far right and if people get upset with what's going on that doesn't make them far
right he's really creating this boogeyman in his head he's got this scenario where oh my gosh if
they find out it was a muhammadan they're going to go down and attack hotels but who's doing that who's
suggesting that where's he getting these ideas from when he said in his original clip that you
know the far right is going to be jumping on this well i get called for rights all the time and yes
i am jumping on this because he is part of the problem people are getting stabbed to death people
are dying because of people like him being complicit, attempting to cover it up, not wanting the true details out there because
they're afraid of this boogeyman of the far right. And if they continue down this path,
there will be a far right because the pendulum will swing so far in the other direction that
we will have people standing up and getting violent. That's what we all want to avoid.
So people like Theo are the problem. And we do know, by the way, that people are entering this country illegally, that they are raping our women.
We know that. That is a fact.
Some of them are trying to kill us.
That is a fact.
And if you look at the time that the MI5 devotes to Islamic extremism versus so-called far-right terrorism.
It doesn't even compare. It doesn't even compare.
So I don't think Theo Usherwood clarified anything there.
I think it very much speaks to the downfall of our former employer,
that he is now the type of commentator they want to employ,
just like he's the type of guy that goes on Sly News and parrots this sort of
rubbish. And I think it's really disappointing, the whole thing. But as I say, I wouldn't have
done that unless he had just claimed on national television that I had taken something out of
context. No, they are your words. You stand by them just like I stand by everything that I say
on this show. And if I'm posting a clip that's one minute, eight seconds long and contains absolutely no edits whatsoever, I am not taking you out of context.
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And now back to the show. And Katie Hopkins has broken down over her disgusting cancellation by the Church of England
which has refused her performance at one of their venues this is for her major new stand-up show
even though this same venue has hosted previously political events by the Extinction Rebellion crazies and drag queens. But for Katie,
this was absolutely devastating given that she had sold 500 tickets to the event. And when she
was trying to come to an arrangement with this particular organisation connected to the Church
of England, they very much upset her.
And you know Katie is obviously usually seen in public as someone who has a tough exterior and has coped with cancellation,
I think, much better than many people could,
because let me tell you, I know a lot about this.
It takes a massive psychological toll.
This one really got to her and she broke down. Watch.
And they came back with, for the avoidance of doubt, these purported losses are vague, unsubstantiated and embarrassing.
And that's the bit that's really got me, is that even when I said, right you know I don't mind or I do mind but I don't mind I
you've cancelled me could we refund people's travel and time and hotel and things and uh
and to be told you're those that that is vague it is 500 tickets but anyway vague unsubstantiated
and embarrassing and I have to say you know I know the law is not the law I know there's no
such thing as democracy right I know to question everything but there is still this sort of small
part in your soul having spent so much time in America that hopes about the church
you know I know Archbishop of Canterbury will be such a disappointment I see the church
really you know throwing itself away but I know people out there who have faith
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now ask your GMC dealer for details it's gutting isn't it it's clearly an agenda an ideological
agenda this is the problem the church is so left-wing so liberal they can't see past its own nose and see
the fact that faithful masses may be meeting or even just friendly people may be meeting in the
church that don't happen to be left-wing why make a deal with Katie Hopkins in the first place you
know who she is she knows what she stands for she's very good at what she does but let her do
her job don't counsel on her last minute and then refuse to help out refunding all
the people that are supposed to be traveling down to see the event. But the way they treated her
is like she's less than a human being. The job of the church is to treat everyone like they are
human beings. Every single human life is sacred and that we're all equal in the eyes of God in
terms of dignity and worth. That's the message of the church. Also, yes, that we're all sinners, but we are all included in God's plan, and we're all welcomed into his church. His church is for
sinners, all of us. So to say that Katie Hopkins is not welcome, to say that she's less than a
sinner, what does that mean about her? What is the church trying to say about Katie Hopkins?
It's absolutely outrageous. They should be ashamed of themselves. But this is the Church of England,
so I think shame is where they live.
That's their normal kind of being at the moment, unfortunately.
And Calvin, you've spent some time with Katie recently ahead of the Uniting the Kingdom rally.
Do you feel like her cancellation was unfair?
And is there a chance for her to return to public life because it's so disturbing calvin
the way that she was debanked well before faraj you know she owns nothing i mean we can't accept
can we someone being treated in this way not at all we shouldn't accept it if we want a fair and
equitable society if we want equal opportunities rule if we want a meritocracy where anyone can achieve as long as they work
hard, get their head down and focus, then that's the world we should be aiming for.
And people like Katie Hopkins should have a chance. But to say, no, you're beyond the
pale because you're a comedian that makes jokes that we see are not fit for purpose,
that is tyranny of the worst sort. That's tyranny of the mind that
say you must think like we think otherwise you are not welcome in civilised society.
You know, to debunk someone's things, you're not able to contribute to, you're not able
to make a living or provide for your family. It's dangerous. It's absolutely dangerous.
It's the kind of things that the Stasi would do. You know, the Commies would do this. The
Nazis would do this. So to see it happening
in liberal democracies
or so-called liberal so-called democracies
is astounding.
Katie Hopkins has not actually said
anything that bad
or done anything that bad.
Yes, she used to be quite controversial
in her time on Breakfast TV,
but those days are long gone.
She's now a very successful comedian
who's producing very good content.
And I say that as someone
who doesn't generally find female comedians funny.
Katie Hopkins is funny.
So it's great to see her work.
Let's appreciate her.
Yeah.
And what's she like, Calvin?
I find her to be a lovely person who genuinely cares.
So we had some conversations about this event, Uniting the Kingdom,
which is, again, about uniting the people of great
britain because we're so divided right now and that's partly because of the establishment partly
because our politicians partly because of the mainstream media but i've sat around the table
with katie and she she's a listener so she's not just rambling on about her own opinion she's
taking on board what everyone else thinks too and we all came to similar ideas about how we can
bring people together around their
Britishness, around their Christian values. She was very clear. We had lots of conversations about
this, that Christianity is important for our country. She's very explicit about that. So her
faith is important to her, too. And so for the Church of England to say, no, actually, we don't
see you as a Christian is bonkers, because who in the Church of England is a judge, especially
these days? Yeah. I mean, I've got quite an interesting history with Katie because we were both columnists at the same time at The Sun and used to butt heads, actually.
But I've always had huge respect for her, even when she has said some quite horrendous things about me, especially during my time at GB News.
And I respect the fact that she goes against the grain and she has deeply intellectual
conversations and also she is so smart you know she is so smart and what I found absolutely
fascinating about this deeply personal address to her followers is it was the first time really in
a long time that she has expressed the really real personal side of what it's like to be
cancelled and there's a really key line here I mean it's it's quite a lengthy clip but it's worth
us both watching along Calvin where she says I'm not a monster and I will not be beaten watch
so that has just been a lot you know and um and the honesty of what I'm trying to do
is I'm not just going out there doing stand-up for the love of it I'm doing it because I think
it's important I think it's needed I know what it's like in those rooms and it's amazing
I also accept that I'll be punished for doing what I'm trying to do and I accept that it doesn't mean I don't feel hurt and
upset because I'm not a monster but I will not be beaten we will not be beaten and I just wanted to
say thank you you know I can't say it too much because it will set me off again um i find her inspiring i i think people
are really taken by her honesty because they know that she is completely unvarnished completely
unfiltered and the thing is calvin and no one wants to acknowledge this in the mainstream media
katie hopkins is way more powerful now than when she had a column in the Sun and a radio show on LBC.
I promise you that.
Some people won't believe that.
But there was a brilliant article in the American mainstream media this week about Megyn Kelly.
And she's obviously a friend of both of ours in America.
Cancelled in a very similar way, actually, to Katie Hopkins.
Maybe not quite so brutally, but now her show is more popular than
virtually every mainstream media outlet in the US and her voice has never been more heard. And I
think the same thing is happening with Katie Hopkins. Maybe we're just a little bit behind
the US though. And I think it's insane that venues are still trying to cancel her. I mean,
Megyn Kelly goes around and is about to give this big performance with Tucker Carlson and they find huge arenas.
So, you know, I think there's hope.
I guess that's what I'm saying.
I think there's hope.
I think Katie Hopkins is sort of uncancelled now, but clearly not when it comes to the establishment. The thing is,
what the left often
forgets is that we're all human beings, right?
Even that idiot that threw
whatever he threw at Nigel Farage, they just
see us as the enemy. They see us
as an opponent. They don't see us as human beings.
Katie Hopkins, yeah, she
may be tough. She may have been cancelled a hundred
times, but this time it got to her because
she's a person with feelings.
If the left could only see people
who don't think like them as equal to them
in terms of dignity and worth,
if they could just see us as human beings and people
with emotions, with cares, with loves,
then we'd all be in a much better place.
But the left do not seem to be able to do that
because they can only see their own worldview.
They can only see their own perspective, their own bubble. But I'm with
you that there is hope. You know, Megyn Kelly, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, these people are
the most influential people in media now, and none of them are in the mainstream media.
This is why the mainstream media continues to lash out because it's afraid and it resents
what the independent media can do. You know, you are much more powerful and influential
now that you've left good GBN because they are restricted.
They have limits.
And we just saw something like,
this is the first time actually I've seen anything like this in a long time.
That show with Patrick Christie's was not a good show.
There was no pushback, just a lot of nodding.
But that's what he does.
Anyway, the fact that you have...
Yeah, because he doesn't want to get in trouble
because he saw what happened to me.
Absolutely.
And that's the problem.
And they are completely controlled by
the off communists and what's really interesting coven i was very uh taken i think we've got it
actually by one of your uh posts on x about what's actually happening in terms of the censorship
state and you made the point they go after x nilon musk they arrest the ceo of telegram yet they go
quiet we met a facebook instagram is found to be enabling child
sex abuse and trafficking. The establishment hunts down free speech advocates but turns a blind eye
to pedos. And clearly that's a very dramatic way to put it, but it's so hard to disagree with that
when you see the way that there is lawfare now going on against both X and Telegram.
And that's simply because the authorities do not control it,
specifically the American authorities.
A hundred percent.
I'm not a free speech absolutist,
though I believe in free speech for the purpose of spreading the truth.
What I want to see clamped down upon on social media
is all of this child grooming,
is all this child pornography, this paedophilia that is rampant, especially on Meta that keeps
getting reported on Instagram and Facebook.
I want to see it clamped down upon the people who actually incite violence.
I want to see actual criminals, violent thugs, rapists, sex offenders, paedophiles, locked
up and or deported, if not hanged. I want to see severe
punishments from the bad guys. What I want to see at the same time is a free space for people to
discuss ideas, whether they disagree with each other, whether they offend each other or not.
That would be fantastic. X provides that. Telegram has been providing that. And this is why those
two platforms are being clamped down upon, because the people in charge cannot or will not for whatever
reason address violent crime sex abuse and or paedophilia we can all allude to or speculate
to why that might be but i think a lot of it comes down to incompetence let's get back to
facing real crime it get tough on crime and then stop knocking down people for hurting words on
facebook and retweeting misinformation on Twitter for goodness sake.
Let's get some common sense back in the room.
Absolutely, absolutely.
And let's stop deplatforming people like Katie Hopkins,
although actually all you're doing is making her more popular
and making the people who follow her more angry than ever.
Father Calvin Robinson, my goodness, we've covered it all today thank you
so much calvin and we will speak next week god bless you dan see you soon are you back in the
uk by the way i am i'm still in political exile but i'm not saying people where i am i managed
to make it over the border okay sorry sorry i'm blowing your cover i I'm blowing your cover. Calvin, thank you so much.
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