Dan Wootton Outspoken - FURY AS STARMER THREATENS RUSSIA WAR TO BOOST POLLS AS NIGEL FARAGE & RUPERT LOWE WEIGH IN

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

Go to https://ground.news/outspoken to see through media bias and stay fully informed. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access this month. Slippery Starmer’s deranged march to take t...he UK into an unwinnable forever war against Russia to save his own political skin is barely being challenged in the compliant and corrupted MSM. Indeed, desperation for a simple good versus evil narrative combined with a deep hatred of Donald Trump, has seen even so-called conservative legacy media organisations team up with the left to openly call on our King and monarchy becoming politicised in an insane deepening of this dangerous rhetoric. In his Digest Dan delivers the nuanced reality of this situation which you are simply not getting from the MSM, as they row in behind Starmer – who wants to bankrupt the UK by writing a blank cheque to Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Then forthright analysis from Alex Phillips. PLUS: Tommy Robinson has a desperate plea for Elon Musk over Tommy Robinson. AND: Darren Grimes quits GB News as the so-called free speech channel further controls its presenters. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: How Meghan Markle is now openly commercialising her children against Prince Harry’s wishes to promote her make or break Netflix series which launches tomorrow. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltone... ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?... Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook:   / danwootton   Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/... #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:47 The UK is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air, together with others. Europe must do the heavy listing. Indeed, desperation for a simple good versus evil narrative, combined with a deep hatred of Donald Trump, has seen so-called conservative legacy media organizations team up with the left to openly call on our king and our monarchy to become politicized in an insane deepening of this dangerous rhetoric. I have to say, if I had still been a columnist at the Daily Mail, I would have quit over this horrendous front page on Sunday. What absolute hypocrites. And have they all forgotten that it's Zelensky who went into the Oval Office and called the vice president a bitch?
Starting point is 00:01:39 I have been to, I have actually, I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour. I have actually, I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. In my digest next, the nuanced reality of this situation and the viewpoints that you are simply not getting from the MSM as they row in behind Starmer, who wants to bankrupt us by writing a blank check to Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Then, forthright analysis from Alex Phillips, also coming up on the show today. Donald Trump calls out the Labour government for free speech violations, but the MSM ignores the
Starting point is 00:02:32 story. Well, I won't. Tommy Robinson has a desperate plea, sorry, Jordan Peterson has a desperate plea for Elon Musk over Tommy Robinson. And Darren Grimes quits GB News as the so-called free speech channel further controls its presenters. Then in the uncancelled after show on Substack, I'm teaming up with Brittany from the Royal News Network to look into how Meghan is now openly commercialising her children against Prince Harry's wishes to promote her make-or-break Netflix series, which launches tomorrow. www.outspoken.live is the address. We'll also be revealing today's Greatest Britain and Union Jackass before the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:03:19 The nominees for Union Jackass, as submitted by you earlier in the day via the Dan Wooten Outspoken Club on X. Nominee one from It's Only Me 44, Slippery Starmer. The reason? Two-faced starmer for wanting to deploy UK troops to Ukraine and risk dragging the UK into a war with Russia. Nominee two, an honorary, let's go. Just this afternoon, Slippery Starmer told Parliament the entire country is behind the corrupt Ukrainian government and President Zelensky. Mr Speaker, I now turn to the events of this weekend and the moving scenes that greeted President Zelensky as he arrived in London on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Mr Speaker, I saw for myself he was taken aback when the crowd in Whitehall cheered at the top of their voices and they were speaking for the whole of our country. Well, let me be clear. Starmer doesn't speak for me. Those crowds were not speaking for me. And I'm fairly certain they weren't speaking for many of you either. This feels like 2020 again, folks, lockdowns, the vaccines, COVID, all those in power and with the megaphones singing from the same pre-prepared hymn sheet, being prepared to put your economic prosperity and your son's lives in the crosshairs. For what? For what? This is a
Starting point is 00:05:22 distraction and a diversion from the real issues that are tearing Britain apart. But trust me, two-tier Kia really, really wants a war. The UK is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air. Together with others, Europe must do the heavy listing. And the mainstream media are backing him, prepared to tear down our most important strategic and economic relationship while throwing out the sacrosanct principle that our king and our monarchy must stay above the political fray. Look at this front page from the Mail on Sunday at the weekend. Now, if I was still working for the Mail, if they hadn't sacked me for laughing at a joke, I would have quit over this. Now stop
Starting point is 00:06:20 the state visit for bully Trump was their headline. Can we just think of the consequences of that for a second? Tariffs, the potential forever war in Russia, the UK going head to head with all of the big tech companies that actually doesn't even bear thinking about. And what about the fact? What about the fact that seems to have been missed by all the mainstream media that it was Vladimir Zelensky himself who entered the storied Oval Office and decided to call the American Vice President J.D. Vance a bitch. I have been to, I've actually, I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people you bring them on a propaganda tour Mr. Now that phrase can I just tell you is a Russian insult that translates into bitch f-word. Just imagine if Trump had done that. This guy is not a hero. But the incessant drumbeat from our political elite is that it was the Donald who was ungracious. And sure enough, the mail got their way this morning as the king allowed himself to become a political pawn. And our commentariat cheered along without a second thought of the dire constitutional implications. And the lunatics were soon at it. From Carol Vorderman. Oh yes, Zelensky being greeted and treated as he should by Starmer and King Charles with a blue
Starting point is 00:08:01 and a yellow heart. Shame on the Putin pair, Trump and Vance, with his ever thicker eyeliner and their vitriol in the Oval Office. Utterly shameful. From Emily Maitlis of the fake newsagents, you have to hand it to these two. While Trump gets the letter, Zelensky gets the king at home in his own sitting room just 24 hours later. Call it a power move. Call it true friendship. It rocks with the Ukrainian and UK flag. And then from the worst of them all, Dan Hodges of the Daily Mail, who says, it doesn't say up yours, Donald Trump, but it might as well do. These people are not only fools. They are dangerous fools. They are fighting against peace. Can we all just remember for a
Starting point is 00:08:49 moment that Starmer is the most dishonest prime minister we have ever had. An evil technocrat controlled by globalist forces who was prepared to lie in front of Donald Trump, J.D. Vance and the entire world's media to pretend that we have free speech in the UK when a blasphemy law is quite literally being introduced via the back door over so-called Islamophobia and grandmothers language in prison for over two years for having sent a tweet. But the MSM all of a sudden trusts this liar to put British boots on the ground and British planes in the sky when we cannot even protect our own southern border. Look at that headline. Another 500 invaded yesterday alone. No, no,
Starting point is 00:09:32 no, no, no. Starmer, no. Because remember the last time a desperate Labour leader had this type of strategy? Remember that coalition of the willing? Where have we heard that one before? Wake up. No one, apart from Alistair Campbell, now admits to supporting the Iraq war. Very few people admit supporting the never-ending lockdowns, and that is for good reason. And it feels like all our elites have to lean back on is Winston Churchill. I've seen a lot of it this weekend. Dishonestly comparing our greatest ever leader with Starmer and Putin to Hitler. An argument that I think lacks any nuance or intelligence and could well lead to World War III. I mean, look at how the Guardian's coverage of Ukraine has changed pre and post war. For example, these headlines are really worth looking for.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So before the Ukraine crisis, the Guardian said, welcome to Ukraine, the most corrupt nation in Europe. Now they say the fight for Ukraine is a fight for liberal ideals. What about Reuters? Back then they said Ukraine's neo-Nazi problem. Now they say for foreign fighters, Ukraine offers purpose, camaraderie and a cause. So what changed?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Specifically on the Churchill front, Lord Ashcroft was at it yesterday, posting with an AI picture of Zelensky hugging Churchill. As a wartime leader, I'm sure our great Winston Churchill would be proud of Zelensky. But thank the Lord for the Duke of Marlborough, who quickly weighed in saying, I don't think so, Lord Ashcroft. Winston was my great uncle, and I knew him well.
Starting point is 00:11:14 He would be appalled at the constant hijacking of the Churchill name to justify such insanity and the needless loss of life. Insanity. Insanity. That is the word, isn't it? It's certainly what the Americans, who are currently overseeing a great revolution of the deep state, which we should all support, it's certainly what they believe. From the Musk ally, Cat Turd, on X, don't worry UK citizens, while this commie clown is sending your sons to die in Ukraine, he'll be arresting you for complaining about it back home while letting gang rapists go free. Enjoy your great leader. Or the Daily Wire's Matt Walsh, who simply said of Starmer, absolutely psychotic. Or Ezra Levant of Rebel News, who said, I don't understand Starmer. He says he'll put boots on the ground and planes in the air in Ukraine. Moments later,
Starting point is 00:11:59 he says he'll only do it with strong US backing. But Trump has always ruled out US troops in Ukraine. What's Starmer doing? Well, I know what he's doing. He's attempting to save himself politically. And as our front pages over the past 48 hours show, the pathetic MSM is on his side. So once again, it's only the independent media, and to an extent Reform UK, providing any opposition to the uniparty and legacy media blob. I like this from Lee Hurst, who said, Ukraine is locked down all over again. The MSM, the establishment, are whipping you up into acting irrationally for their own personal distraction from their failures. Are you falling for it again?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Or this from Dominic Cummings, who said, Joke leader, joke team, this is referring to the conservatives, by the way, pundits writing the joke speeches, generates more on output, adding to the general laughingstock of the country globally. Or how about the independent journalist Ben Pyle? It's really worth sharing this, actually. He wrote the banality of the UK news media is such that very few of its number would call this war is peace bullshit for what it is. The end of war was in sight, but these leaders have put it further into the distance. They have legitimated Moscow's maximalist aims. They have undermined any future negotiated
Starting point is 00:13:18 settlement, and they have yet again increased the risks of escalation while alienating their largest ally with multiples of the resources and capacities they have. And in using the war as a prop for their own crisis-ridden positions and projects, they have created the circumstances for their own further humiliation. These are not statesmen. This is an interminable clown show in which the audience's only hope of ending is the recklessness on show, bringing the entire tent down in flames. Now, Reform UK's Rupert Lowe has admitted he has deep reservations about boots on the ground, lots of questions. And I'll just show you just a little
Starting point is 00:13:58 bit of what he asked, actually, because these are very, very pertinent questions. He says, does the UK have enough military resource to sustain a presence in Ukraine? What is the exit strategy? Is there an exit strategy? What has the military said? And he goes on to say that he suspects that the answer to these questions is no. And he says, I have deep, deep, deep reservations deploying serving British men and women into such an incredibly dangerous area is a serious decision, perhaps the most serious. Now, Nigel Farage, despite all of the criticism coming towards him, actually, to try and paint him as some type of Putin apologist in the latest Russian hoax. I actually think he did a decent job of defending Donald Trump on LBC this morning, even though I don't believe we're quite seeing the extent of what he really thinks. Watch.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Just to clarify, do you agree that the president and vice president bullied President Zelensky? I think President Zelensky was very unwise to tell the Americans what would happen to them if they didn't back him. I think it was unwise. Yeah, sure, Vance and Trump bit back. But I think in diplomatic terms, I think Zelensky played it very badly. And it's very interesting that even Peter Mandelson, the British ambassador, is making very, very similar points. Well, he's suggesting Zelensky should return to Washington. He will. And he will. Mandelson is right. And he will. I think what came out of Friday
Starting point is 00:15:32 You don't see anything intemperate in Trump's language at all. Whether there was or whether there wasn't, we're heading towards peace. We're heading towards peace. It's a good thing, not a bad thing. Would you treat a guest like that? I wouldn't expect a guest to be rude to me in my own house. Absolutely not. I would expect a guest to be rude to me in my own house. Absolutely not. I would expect a guest to treat me with respect.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It doesn't mean that, you know, for a minute that Vance and Trump, you know, I'm not defending what they did. Farage then admitted that cancelling the state visit, remember that is the thing that the Daily Mail, the Daily Mail, I can't believe it, not the Guardian, but the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail. I can't believe it. Not The Guardian, but The Daily Mail is suggesting, or Farage admits, that's absurd. Lastly, there are political movements afoot that the state visit that was offered to Donald Trump should now be postponed. John Swinney, the First Minister of Scotland and others. Your view on that? Yeah, one or two Conservatives saying the same thing. Yeah, of course, of course. Look, these people can't abide Trump.
Starting point is 00:16:27 They can't live with Trump. They don't understand Trump. They hate Trump. They always have. And let's face it, you know, the Foreign Secretary hates Trump. Half the Cabinet hates Trump. But they've got to face reality. And, you know...
Starting point is 00:16:39 State visit stays. Of course it does. And look, you know, whether you like Trump or not is irrelevant. And Farage, and I salute him for this, even defended Trump and the other Republicans who were questioning Zelensky's decision to turn up at the White House without a suit and tie on. A journalist asked him why he's not wearing a suit.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Well, do you know what? Do you know what? If I turned up at the White House, I'd make sure I was wearing a suit, my, do you know what? Do you know what? If I turned up at the White House, I'd make sure I was wearing a suit, my shoes were cleaned, absolutely. And Trump is... In diplomacy, our Prime Minister... Our Prime Minister...
Starting point is 00:17:13 Our Prime Minister... Our Prime Minister... But he wasn't dealing with President Trump. Our Prime Minister was briefed and briefed and briefed as to how to deal with the visit to the White House. That's not Zelensky's fault, is it? All right, if Zelensky wants to bowl in and show no respect to a man
Starting point is 00:17:31 who we all know is incredibly old-fashioned about this stuff, and he really is. When you say this stuff, you mean manners, dress, shoes? Very much so. So your shoes have to be shined, like being back at school? Lots of times. Trump said, yeah, good shoes, great shoes, you know, whatever, you know. That's how he... So if you're going in with a positive mindset,
Starting point is 00:17:50 maybe Zelensky should have thought about that. But that's minor. That's minor. So you are critical of him wearing his battle fatigues, effectively. I think there are times to wear it and there are times not to, perhaps. But, of course, Farage is on an island. We're all on an island, actually. We're battling against all of the political establishment. We're battling against the mainstream media. And there's absolutely no
Starting point is 00:18:09 questioning of the fact that Rachel from Accounts, for example, who keeps claiming we are broke, just signed away another blank check yesterday, which prompted Farage ally Aaron Banks to suggest, if you were wondering why you can't get a GP appointment today, politicians spent $400 billion on COVID, $80 billion on HS2, $35 billion on debt interest, and $80 billion in overseas aid over five years. Billions on immigration, billions on benefits for 5 million to sit around, and now we are off to fight Russia. And trust me, there is a political opposition to this forever war, but it largely at the moment sits within the European populist right. For example, Marine Le Pen said last night, Europe is divided between those who want the war in Ukraine to continue and those who wish to take
Starting point is 00:19:11 part in peace negotiations. I am one of those who does not want the war to continue. We have to work for peace at all costs. Or what about Hungary's Viktor Orban, who wrote, European leaders decided in London today, this is yesterday, that they want to go on with the war instead of opting for peace. They decided that Ukraine must continue the war. This is bad, dangerous and mistaken. Hungary remains on the side of peace. And the thing is, listen to Zelensky's rhetoric. It's wrong for the moment. And the thing is, listen to Zelensky's rhetoric. It's wrong for the moment. The US will have to send their sons and daughters exactly the same way as we are sending their
Starting point is 00:19:56 sons and daughters to war. And they will have to fight because it's nature that we're talking about and they will be dying. Perhaps the biggest warning sign to the UK comes from Trump himself, who wrote on Truth Social, we should spend less time worrying about Putin and more time worrying about migrant rape gangs, drug lords, murderers and people from mental institutions entering our country so that we don't end up
Starting point is 00:20:26 like Europe. We are the warning sign to America. There has been another apparent terror attack in Germany today. We cannot protect our own borders. And with this type of dangerous warmongering rhetoric, my view is that Starmer is only going to make things worse. But now, let me bring in Alex Phillips. Alex Phillips, I know I'm in a bit of a minority here within the media class, so where am I wrong? Oh, Alex, just unmute yourself, please, so that we can hear you. I'm usually more professional than that. I hope you can hear me now. We've got you loud and clear. Go on. Please know that while I was muted, I was saying you actually got pretty much everything right um i think it's really important to point out that you know ukraine has become the new are
Starting point is 00:21:29 you wearing a mask during covid it's become the new i want to remain you know after the brexit referendum it's become the new sort of you know stick some flags in your profile um and you know therefore you're a good person and you're right You know, Ukraine used to be an extremely corrupt country. I'm sure it still is when they fully doge and audit what has happened to USA dollars in Ukraine. It'll be interesting to see what they discover there. There's been reports of weapons that have been sent to Ukraine turning up in other parts of the world where they've been sold on. But and this is where the but has to do quite a lot of heavy lifting. At the end of the day, we saw what happened when Putin went into Crimea and the world essentially appeased him in 2014. He's then emboldened enough to go into Ukraine. Do I think he's about to go and invade Poland or Latvia or Lithuania? Probably not. I think that's highly unlikely. But what he is probably going to want to do is try and take control of the coastal areas of southern Ukraine. And that way he can war game
Starting point is 00:22:34 international shipping and cargo. He's done this already during the war in Ukraine after the invasion, where we've seen a huge spike in the cost of food because essentially fertilizer wasn't able to come out, cooking oils weren't able to come out, wheat wasn't able to come out. Ukraine, for some countries, provides about 75% of what they need to feed their nations. And it's the same with war gaming, what can come out in terms of fuel, in terms of rare earth minerals. That is so strategically important, that coastline. You've got Iran who are pushing all the time to control the Red Sea by the Houthi rebels disrupting shipping there. You've got China constantly pushing to control all the maritime routes, frankly, even going as far as building atolls out of nowhere in the middle of the ocean and going,
Starting point is 00:23:19 oh, look, you know, this means this is our territory now. If we then give Russia control of the Black Sea, the anti-Western axis essentially have the levers of all the arterial routes for all trade. And that is so dangerous. I think Putin knows that. Trump knows this. He did actually say in that press conference when he's talking with Starmer, actually, he did mention the coast. We got to look at the coast. so he knows how strategically vital that is but you're right you know the way that the west is carrying on the way that europe is carrying on having done absolutely naff all this whole time apart from the uk being really sluggish about applying sanctions being dependent on russian gas and oil especially germany um you know not
Starting point is 00:24:02 not delivering them the weapons in the first instance of the war, right? When actually it suddenly looked like, okay, Ukraine can push Russia right back. They were so hesitant. Germany's even hesitant today about giving Ukraine anything. So for them to turn around and say, oh, please, America, we've stuffed this up. Can you help? And Trump goes, all right, and this is how I'm going to do it. You can't do it that way. You're wrong. I mean, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Why should America, the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, care? I mean, you've got to think about this. You've got to contextualize this. Yes, Russia, bad country, enemy of the West. We know that.
Starting point is 00:24:36 But if there was some sort of conflict going on between Mexico and El Salvador and America thought, right, this is right on the southern, you know, the southern border. And this is going to have all these knock on effects with my part of the world. And then they turned around and said, Oh, I am European countries in NATO, you're gonna give some money to Mexico to stop? I mean, would they? Would they? Would they think this doesn't really got anything to do with us strategically. So you know, Trump always said he was going to be America first. At the end of the day, he's got people talking. He's got Europe moving, perhaps not in the right direction. And whatever they say, however many summits they want, however many conflabs and press conferences and photo calls and look at me, aren't I a good person opportunities, it's Donald Trump that's going to call the shots. The idea that this collective of the willing or whatever they're calling themselves
Starting point is 00:25:26 will go ahead and suddenly sort everything out when they've had three years to do this and haven't managed to come up with any solution. And they're still saying, oh, we need an American backstop. We need an American backstop. We'll just let America do what America wants to do because, you know, they've got the whip hand. We don't really have much say anymore. We squandered that opportunity a long time ago. What do you make of the Nigel Farage position, Alex Phillips, because he's stuck between a rock and a hard place, obviously, personally, and you know, I'm going to say this, I would like his rhetoric to be stronger.
Starting point is 00:26:00 However, probably on this one, I agree with you because he's got the entire mainstream media, the prime minister in the House of Commons, trying to paint him as some type of Putin apologist. Right. And in no way is he a Putin apologist. And he's been quite clear about saying that, you know, Ukraine still needs to remain a priority and Putin's a very dangerous man. So let's not take that away from him. He's always been clear on that position. And he sort of said, look, I think that, you know, these negotiations are going to continue. Of course they are. America's not stupid. America knows how dangerous Putin is and how dangerous Russia is. America knows full well that they are an ally of China. What might be going on strategically here is trying to create a division between Russia and China, trying to separate those two. I don't think it's going to happen. There does seem to be, I'm going to be honest with what I think, there does seem to be an alarming amount of affection
Starting point is 00:26:53 that comes out of Donald Trump's mouth for Vladimir Putin. At one point in the post-conference, he's saying, well, you know, we've been through things together. They accused me over this whole Russia affair. And that also affected him too. And I'm kind of thinking, okay, maybe he's just massaging his ego to bring him to the table. But you know, Donald Trump can say or do what he likes. He's his own person. He's been voted as president of America, not president of Europe. So frankly, you know, if he decides that the time has come that he doesn't want America and Russia to be mortal enemies and wants to do something about that, that is totally within his purview. He gets to decide that. And that's what the voters of America believe in. And many of them on the
Starting point is 00:27:36 Republican side are very sceptical about continuing to fund the war in Ukraine. That's just called democracy. They've got their own geopolitics to worry about. And when we stuffed everything up so badly in our own neighbourhood, we can't keep turning the other side of the Atlantic saying, please come and help. And when they wait to help, tell them, but not like that, you're doing it wrong. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And I mean, oh, there's so many things I'm angry about, Alex. But I find it astonishing, this presentation of Donald Trump and J.D. Vance as absolute bullies, right? There's been no question of that whatsoever. It's almost just been accepted across the political spectrum in the UK, when actually, and this is a fact, it was Vladimir Zelensky who in the Oval Office described J.D. Vance as a bitch F word. Now, personally, I'm maybe not blaming him for that. Like it was a heated situation. But you can understand what I'm saying, right? Imagine if Trump or Trump or Vance had used that type of language. It feels like there are just total double standards when it comes to these men. Also, I don't understand. Why should J.D. Vance have gone to Ukraine?
Starting point is 00:28:47 What's it got to do with him? Why is he, you know, he's vice president of America. Why is he like, well, I better go to Ukraine just because every other politician from the West has gone there for their photo opportunity, getting themselves in Kiev. Why should he have gone to Ukraine? I don't understand what Zelensky's point was.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And also, you know, this is what I'm trying to get at. He's there going, well, everyone else has given me handouts because we've been invaded. You've got to give me handouts. Have you not been to my country and see how bad it is? It's like, well, I mean, it doesn't work like that. That is the old global world order where it was supposed to work like that. But you can't have me in the presence of Sudan turning up and going, well, you know country is pretty effed up can you give me a handout you know Yemen oh see what's going on my country can I have a handout Libya well we're in a real big mess since Gaddafi went can I have a handout I mean I want America to be strong on the global stage I want it to police the global
Starting point is 00:29:39 stage and especially when it's Europe okay this is our continent this is on our doorstep that remains the case and I do want America to be part of the solution because blimmin' it then needs to be a solution but you can't then dictate to America what it should do if it's not in American interests and I thought the idea of essentially that making Ukraine pay reparations it's not normally that way around it's normally the other side who they sort of sue for reparations, but that's not going to happen. But making Ukraine essentially say, right, in return for us supporting you militarily, which we've already done, we want access to rare earth minerals, that is essentially American boots on the ground. That is the backstop. You think Putin's going to walk in march into ukraine what he wanted from ukraine
Starting point is 00:30:25 were those exact resources and say right we're going to take these off america he wouldn't dare this is not about anything other than a battle for territory a battle for land a battle for resources a battle for strategic dominance that is what's going on here um and you know europe is just constantly out of the game because they don't ask you know sakir starm when you first come into office like right every year three billions ukraine done without question we don't want anything in return no no that's not how it's supposed to work if you're a grown-up on the world stage you go right we're going to give three billion to ukraine and actually we want the rare earth minerals that is you know that's your
Starting point is 00:31:03 privilege to do that if you're giving a country assistance and aid. I'm very torn on this because I am a huge MAGA supporter. I don't, I wish the American foreign policy was slightly different to the way it is, I really do. But do I think that this was inevitable, that we saw this coming, and this is a product of Europe being weak-willed, intransigent, feckless, reckless, then yeah, I mean, this was a long time coming, frankly. Yeah, it was. And I mean, look, sometimes these memes actually sum up the reality of the situation better than the news coverage. And I thought this one was particularly pertinent, showing Zelensky in Washington saying, in Washington, he gets his ass handed to him.
Starting point is 00:31:48 In London, he gets a check handed to him. And it really does sum up the difference. I mean, that's it. very lucky in the blow up in the Oval Office between Zelensky and Trump, because it completely overshadowed. In fact, the mainstream media in the UK totally ignored the most pertinent moment of that extraordinary 50 minute press conference for the UK, because it was the moment that Donald Trump, not just J.D. Vance, but Donald Trump called out Starmer for the complete retraction of free speech in the UK, something that Starmer had tried to deny just the day before, which was actually totally disgusting, given he was lying on the world stage in front of Trump, in front of Vance, in front of the entire media
Starting point is 00:32:46 class, given that we know, we know as an actual fact that there are currently grandmothers and mothers who are languishing behind bars in prison for two years for having sent a tweet or having sent a Facebook post. We know that journalists like Alison Phillips have the police coming to knock on their door if they write something that the establishment does not like. And we know that his deputy prime minister, Angela Rayner, is preparing for a blasphemy law via the back door to try and deal with the issue of Islamophobia. So I won't ignore this story. Watch Trump's extraordinary response when asked about Starmer's free speech lie. We'll get analysis from Alex Phillips straight after, too.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Thank you, Mr. President. Prime Minister Starmer claimed repeatedly that his government believes in free speech and was not engaged in censorship. But his country's government arrests people for memes and thought crimes and, even more worrisome, is pressuring American companies to censor Americans on its behalf. How can he be a reliable, trustworthy partner when he says things that are demonstrably false on such an important topic?
Starting point is 00:33:52 The President Well, we actually spoke to him about that yesterday, and we thought they took it very, very much too far. J.D. was very strong on it. So was I. So was Marco. And we've been speaking to him about it. Marco, would you like to say something about it?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah, we have concerns, obviously, with the conduct of – particularly as it impacts Americans. And there's real concern that American speech, which is online, could fall into the hands of British or any country's jurisdiction. And so this is a point the Vice President made at Munich, and I think it's a very compelling one, that what unites us with Europe, as much as anything else, else is these shared values and one of them being free speech. And so if Americans are threatened by it, we're going to need to take action in that regard. Mr. J.D.?
Starting point is 00:34:34 The President. Mr. I'd say it's actually a very important question. The President. We spoke about this in detail with the Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary and others at lunch yesterday. And I know that Secretary of Commerce, Lutnick, followed up in private meetings last night. This is really important.
Starting point is 00:34:49 We believe Americans have the right to speak their mind. Even if we in this room disagree with them, they have the right to speak their mind in the public square, which is often online these days. And we're going to defend that right as it pertains to American companies and American citizens vigorously if we have to. I do think that under the president's leadership, we're gonna find common ground
Starting point is 00:35:08 with our friends in the UK on this question, but it remains to be seen. The principle that will guide us is we believe in free speech in this country and we'll fight for it for American citizens. Now, Alex Phillips, the reason I wanted to play that clip in its entirety is I think it's so significant. Firstly, shameful that it was an American journalist who asked about that. There hasn't been one question, by the way, from a British journalist about what actually happened in that conversation. What did they say to you during lunch? Not a single thing. And I think it is highly significant because while the American administration may not be able to protect us personally, what they absolutely can do is stop Labour going after companies in America, like Google, like X, that want to protect free speech. Yeah, exactly. And this is where it's a diplomacy done right, which is we're the closest allies to you.
Starting point is 00:36:08 We're concerned about what you're doing to your people. We have your people in our hearts, but we're not going to mess with that because you're the one democratically elected to lead that country. And so framing it through the prism of, however, when it comes to social media platforms being regulated, these are american
Starting point is 00:36:25 entities and therefore that does make it an american interest i think that trump and vance are deeply concerned about europe they think that the whole west is facing a civilizational issue a civilizational crisis america was part of that frankly until january because if we'd had kamala harris as the president of america what a different world would be living in right right now. And they basically said, look, we are saving America. We're going to make America great again. You now need to do the same if the West is going to stand together, if it's going to still progress and prosper in a world that is a multipolar world now with so many different interests, so many different blocks. If the BRICS group of nations really club together, that poses an existential economic threat.
Starting point is 00:37:06 We're always faced with the existential cultural threats from the growing audacity of Islam, particularly in Europe. And what they're saying is you need to look after the West as much as we want to look after the West. And you're not doing the job. Exactly. I mean, look at this post from Angela Rainer, the Deputy Prime Minister, over the weekend. Again, Alex, this was virtually ignored by the mainstream media, totally ignored. The rise in anti-Muslim hate crime is unacceptable
Starting point is 00:37:35 and has no place in our society today. I am launching a new working group chaired by Dominic Grieve, Casey, to define anti-Muslim hatred and Islamophobia. I mean, Alex, this isMuslim hatred and Islamophobia. I mean, Alex, this is utterly chilling. It is chilling. I mean, seriously, think about this. You as a woman have so many reasons why you might want to speak out against Islam.
Starting point is 00:38:01 As a gay man, I have so many reasons that I might want to speak out against this religion that wants to literally push me off the top of a building. And by the way, is teaching exactly that to young British born Muslims in mosques across East London. And they want to criminalise that. That is clearly where this is heading. Yeah. And also, I'm just fed up with this pandering to a particular community. I'm sorry, this is our country. You are here. We invited you here. Some might say perhaps we didn't, but you're living in our country. And I'm sorry, but members of your community, not all, but members of your community,
Starting point is 00:38:32 members of the Muslim faith, have stabbed our little girls. They have bombed our arenas. They've plotted against the government. They persecute homosexuals. They hate our culture. I mean, the list goes on and on. And you're expecting us to say, oh, we better make sure they're okay. persecute homosexuals. They hate our culture. I mean, the list goes on and on.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And you're expecting us to say, oh, we better make sure they're okay. You know, every time there's a terrorist attack, we were told straight away, the minute that a terrorist attack has happened, Islam is the religion of peace. No, it's not. No other world religion has this much beef with other world religions.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You don't see it coming out of the Sikhs. You don't see it coming out of the Hindus. You don't see it coming out of the Jews. You don't see it coming out of the Sikhs. You don't see it coming out of the Hindus. You don't see it coming out of the Jews. You don't see it coming out of the Buddhists. You definitely don't see it coming out of the Christians. The only world religion that doesn't abide anybody else, any other culture, any other ideology, any other belief system is Islam.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And it's at the core of Islam. It considers itself the final and last religion and all the others have to be destroyed. So I'm sorry if, you know, I'm phobic of it. I think it's not a phobia because it's actually a very rational fear to have when you live in a country with terrorist attacks. We've seen again today what appears to be another terror attack in Mannheim. And what are we talking about? Well, you know, as a result of this, some people don't like Muslims. Really? Are you kidding me that there's going to be people who are perhaps less educated or don't sort of live in a multicultural part of the country? Maybe they do. Maybe that's the problem. But they are worried about Islam and what it means for this country
Starting point is 00:39:58 and how this is impacting on our culture, our legacy, our heritage. I mean, of course they are. You can't have people going around committing atrocities and terrorist attacks and go, oh, well, you know, nothing to see here. Let's all move on. And, you know, you look back through the history of Europe and the Crusades and the battles, frankly, between Islam and Christendom, which you've gone on for centuries. You know, you see it in some medieval onwards history of Spain. And you then look at the history of the Middle East. OK, remember, Christianity comes from the Middle East and you don't get any Christians there anymore. They've been driven out of Syria. They've been driven out of Palestine, you know, aka Gaza, who we're all supposed to have bleeding
Starting point is 00:40:40 hearts about constantly. They've been driven out of the Lebanon by and large. Anywhere that Islam has grown into, it has driven out Christians. It persecutes Christians. It murders Christians. It takes Christian girls as slaves. It taxes people who aren't Muslim in Muslim countries with this thing called the jizya. It doesn't treat other people with tolerance. It doesn't say, well, we should all get together and work together as one happy family and so if you cannot criticize a religion or a culture and is by no mean saying everybody in whose muslim is like this i mean we all know that i don't need to say that sort of mayor culprit right i don't need to do that disclosure we get it you can't criticize a religion that is aggressive to all other religions, wants to attack them, that wants to destroy them, that wants to eradicate them.
Starting point is 00:41:31 If you then can't say that that is the case, you're in trouble. Well, indeed. But that is literally, I mean, it's like the dystopian future that, remember, Christopher Hitchens warned of about two decades ago. Now we are actually here. And I wanted to show you, Alex, this really fascinating exchange, for all of the wrong reasons, by the way, between Lewis Goodall of the fake news agents and Sadiq Khan, London's failed mayor, over Donald Trump, because it plays into a lot of these issues. Watch. The president welcome in London.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Well, what I think will happen, my prediction, you know, should President Trump come to London is because contrary to the views of others, we have freedom of speech. I think people in London will express their views about that. But you're the mayor of London. Assuming he comes to London, which you almost certainly will, will you welcome him to the city? People know my views about Donald Trump, that's not going to change. So you don't welcome him? I think it is important to engage with the President of the USA.
Starting point is 00:42:32 In which case, why won't you say you welcome him? If he does come to London, what I'd invite him to do is spend time at Trafalgar Square, maybe on St Patrick's Day, or New Year, or Eden Square, or Diwali in the square. Would you offer to him to take him around the city? I think it is important to actually bust some of these myths.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I think it's important to show those people who believe the contrary that diversity is a strength, not a weakness. Would you offer to take him around to some of the places he's talked about? He's talked about no-go areas. Would you take him to some of those so-called no-go areas? I'd invite President Trump to a good curry on Brick Lane, maybe go and visit a place of worship in London. A lot of prejudice comes from prejudging. And actually, one of the joys of the great city of London is our diversities. And by the way, that includes not just religious
Starting point is 00:43:15 minorities, ethnic minorities, but people of different sexual orientations as well. I mean, all the usual stuff, Alex. But I mean, let me tell you, you live in London. I live in London. What Sadiq Khan is saying is just not true. There absolutely are no-go areas in this city if you're a young woman. The idea that, yeah, you're going to take Donald Trump and take him for a curry down Brick Lane, he's certainly going to go, yeah, this is amazing. Diversity in the UK is beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. Now take him to Whitechapel, you know. Take him around Tower Hamlet. See how things are going on there, why don't you?
Starting point is 00:43:57 Take him to parts of Lewisham where kids are stabbing each other. This is ridiculous. He lists all this sort of synthetic nonsense. Trafalgar Square. Yeah, well, all this sort of synthetic nonsense, Trafalgar Square. Yeah, well, of course, in the middle of Trafalgar Square, if you've got a celebration for Diwali, it's very different to say, well, how about, you know, you go to one of the very poor boroughs where you barely see a white face. You know, it's utterly ludicrous. And well, this is the thing about Sadiq Khan. He's just a nasty, wretched, poisonous, toxic little man
Starting point is 00:44:24 who, this is what the left do. They shower themselves in moral rectitude by hating other people, by hating people. And that doesn't make you big or clever or funny or strong or superior or admirable. It makes you an idiot. And I can't wait for the state visit. I hope it's all bells and whistles. I hope there's sort of cavalcades going down the mall. I hope there are people waving American flags. And I hope that there's a big balloon of, you know, Sadiq Khan in a nappy that's floated over Buckingham Palace. Breaking right now, Jordan Peterson has issued a shock warning to Elon Musk, who's quite tied up at the moment with Doge, about the state of Tommy Robinson being kept locked up at HMP Woodhill in solitary confinement.
Starting point is 00:45:18 But the big news is, and you'll see this from the reply to Jordan Peterson's desperate post on X, Elon Musk says that he is watching what's going on, he is on it, and we know that he is funding Tommy Robinson's legal bill. So yet again, let me just say this is a case of the British mainstream media, the British political establishment, the British elite being put to shame because it is Jordan Peterson via the Daily Wire who is raising this issue, which really calls into question human rights in the UK, let alone anything else. Watch. Anyways, when I talked to Ezra Levant, we discussed Tommy, and he's in solitary confinement in a maximum security prison in the UK. And he's not allowed any visitors who have a social media following, whatever that means, given that virtually everybody has at least some social media following now. And this essentially means that he'll spend nine months in solitary for what's a civil offense.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And it's been four, and that's a long time. And his guest slots aren't filled, partly because of these restrictions. I asked Ezra, too, if Tommy was in solitary at his own request because the prison is a dangerous place because it's a maximum security prison and it's full of the sort of people who might not approve of Tommy Robinson, let's put it that way. And Ezra told me that Tommy hadn't requested to be isolated in this manner, that he was willing to take his chances in the general population. But it gets more disturbing because Jordan Peterson, in his warning to Elon Musk,
Starting point is 00:47:17 goes on to say that he believes Tommy Robinson could die behind bars. Regardless of what you think of him and what he's done, say, as a whistleblower on the gang side, his punishment is exceptionally heavy-handed, and it isn't at all obvious to me that it's wise. It's also not obvious to me that he'll make it through nine months of this intact, and Ezra was concerned for the same reasons. And Jordan Peterson went on to say that if there were fatal consequences, it would not bode well for the UK. I think that he's being subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. And if that produces fatal consequences, which is a possibility,
Starting point is 00:48:09 that doesn't bode well for the general stability of the UK, you might say. And it's not a risk that should be taken. And having seen that video, the former footballer Joey Barton posted on X, I saw Tommy Robinson a few weeks ago solitary is taking its toll i had to sign an nda to get in wish i could say more thanks for raising awareness jordan peterson and alex phillips it is quite shocking is it not that it's jordan peterson Peterson, who is raising this issue rather than any member of the British legacy media. Right. I mean, apart from, yeah, definitely no one in the British legacy media is talking about it. No one even mentions his name, frankly, in the British legacy media. It is important to point
Starting point is 00:49:00 out Rupert Lowe, of course, the Reform UK MEP, has written to the governor asking about solitary confinement. It is also true that if he wasn't in solitary confinement, he would be at great risk in a maximum security prison. So it's the big question is, was this a justifiable punishment for the offence that had been committed, which is basically a civil offence? It's not really a sort of, you know, dangerous, you know, high crime event. It wasn't murder or manslaughter or, you know, it was it was essentially libel. So it's a bit crazy that he's in a maximum security prison that really should be questioned. It doesn't seem to be remotely proportionate punishment.
Starting point is 00:49:40 But the establishment, the state, don't seem to figure out what they're going to do after this. When that man, God willing, comes out of prison, as he will do one day, one assumes, unless things are, you know, as Peterson's saying, if there were fatal consequences, they have not figured out what they're going to do when he comes out of that prison. Because he's going to look like a very different man. In theory, he'll have freedom to be able to say to people what happened to him in that prison, what it was like, the conditions he was kept under. And frankly, now he's become a massive international phenomenon. It's not just the people of Britain now who know who he is. It is the entire world. It's captured the interest of some of the most powerful people on this planet. It's not just captured the interest of some of the most powerful people on this planet and not just captured the interest captured the sympathy and the support and I don't think the states have figured out quite how they are going to handle that on his release. Do you share the fear of Jordan Peterson though that there would be massive consequences to the UK if something were to happen tragic to
Starting point is 00:50:44 Tommy Robinson behind bars? Yeah, because we are a breaking point. We discussed this on a previous show, didn't we? The fact that you've got people who are experts in the field of civil unrest who produce reports for various intelligence operations, whether it be our own five and six or in other countries, other governments, other states, who have said Britain is on the brink. There are so many social divides. You've got economic turmoil. You have the big risk of running street battles between people of different faiths. That's already happening. We are extra vulnerable as well to KGB agents or FSB agents who may be stationed in this country,
Starting point is 00:51:26 who may use any sort of unrest to stoke it up and make it worse. People who infiltrate protests to turn them into riots. And then, of course, if this led on to people looting and general lawlessness, Britain could fall very quickly, very quickly in a way that I don't think many British people realise. And when you look at flashpoints, when you look at the sort of triggers that could cause social unrest, which would then sweep across the country, what would unite people across the country? Well, certainly Tommy Robinson is a phenomenon. He is a figure that there are huge numbers of people around the country who,
Starting point is 00:52:03 if anything happened to a hair on his head, would be absolutely appalled, angry, driven to do something, driven to demonstrate at the very least. So it is one such example of something that could end up being a catalyst in what is already a growing tinderbox country. It's interesting, Alex, because the free speech issue when it comes to jd vance has been dismissed really by most politicians in this country but a clip of georgia maloney responding to vance at cpac has gone viral i wanted to play you the italian prime minister and get your response off the back vance Prime Minister was discussing something deeper. Identity, democracy, freedom of speech.
Starting point is 00:52:51 In short, Europe's historic role and mission. Many pretended to be outraged, calling for European pride against an American daring to lecture us. But let me tell you, as someone who is proud to be European, first, if those who were outraged had shown the same pride when Europe lost its strategic autonomy, tying its economy to autocratic regimes, or when European borders and our way of life were threatened by mass illegal migration, now we would live in a stronger Europe.
Starting point is 00:53:35 SIPAC understood, SIPAC understood before many others, that the political and cultural battle for conservative values is not just an American battle. It is a Western battle. I mean, Alex Phillips, I loved this. Did you? I love her. She does no wrong. She is a goddess. I mean, she just said that she cuts right through.
Starting point is 00:53:59 She cuts right through and she is fearless. And this is why she's got the admiration of not just people around the world, but people in her own country. Remember what the legacy media did in Italy. Oh, well, she loves Mussolini. Oh, well, she's far right. Oh, well, she's a monster. Oh, well, she's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Now other world leaders can't wait to go bask in her glory. Zacchia Starmer wants to be there standing by her side, showing how buddy they are. You know, and the people of Italy, she's one of the very few leaders in the world who, since being elected, has become even more popular. She is a class act. Thank the Lord for Giorgia Maloney.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I love her. And may there be many more of her. You being one of them, Alex Phillips, in politics in years to come. But look, Alex, stand by, because in just one minute, our former workplace, GB News, another big shakeup with the great Darren Grimes having a really emotional departure on air. Now, we weren't even allowed to say goodbye on air, Alex, will we? So anyway, I'll bring you that and we'll discuss what's going on at GB News, which seems to be in quite a lot of trouble, in just one minute. But first, the reason you're watching this show is that it's becoming increasingly difficult to
Starting point is 00:55:17 trust mainstream media or the so-called fact checkers who claim to determine what is true. And there's good reason for that, given the debate over free speech, the controversy surrounding Brexit and how Trump and other politicians challenging the status quo are portrayed. But I have the solution. It's called Ground News, and it's the best way to stay informed and cut through media bias and narrative so you can get the facts for yourself. Go to ground.news forward slash outspoken to check it out. But let me show you this incredible website and app. It's a great app too, by the way, in action.
Starting point is 00:55:50 So let's take the recent game-changing speech by J.D. Vance to the Munich Security Conference, where he tore into European governments, including ours here in the UK, for the despicable retraction of free speech. And what you can do on the website is see clearly in one place that 361 sources are covering the story. But then Ground News instantly shows how it's being covered, broken down
Starting point is 00:56:11 by whether the outlets lean to the left or the right. This is called the Bias Distribution Service. And if you scroll down, you can see every article about this topic broken down by the political position and ownership of the publication. So it means we can see every article about this topic broken down by the political position and ownership of the publication. So it means we can see quite clearly for ourselves that Newsmax and GB News gave fair and accurate coverage, focusing on how Vance finally had the guts to point out uncomfortable truths. By stark contrast, the left-wing HuffPost claimed the speech left all of Europe aghast. It didn't, HuffPost, let me tell you. While the Independent, as usual, they missed the story altogether, instead deciding to focus on a joke that Vance made about Elon Musk claiming that it bombed. What's more, Ground News gets to know you personally, providing you with the news stories
Starting point is 00:56:53 you're interested in while also analysing your own biases. Now, my favourite feature is something called the Blind Spot feed. It surfaces upwards of 20 stories every day that you might not be hearing about because of the corruption of the mainstream media. So look, I know you love the news, but you don't trust the legacy media. So Ground News gives you the tools to understand the truth about what is going on in the world. It is the only way I read the news. It allows me to see through media bias and manipulative narratives, no more relying on the MSM to define the truth for you. Go to ground.news forward slash outspoken to check it out. Subscribe through my link for 40% off the Vantage plan,
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Starting point is 00:57:55 But now back to the show. Breaking right down, following the Christmas bloodbath, there has been another major shakeup at GB News with Darren Grimes, who had been on the channel ever since launch. He first appeared on my show right at the beginning, quitting in dramatic fashion live on air. This is the first time any presenter in the history of GB News has been given the opportunity to actually make some sort of resignation, say goodbye to the viewers. It's a risky thing, isn't it, allowing that to happen? We've seen in other countries it can go very, very wrong. But what's really behind Darren
Starting point is 00:58:40 Grimes' departure and why does the so-called free speech channel continue to limit free speech of its presenters? Alex Phillips, herself a former star of GB News, now thriving in the independent media world, will join me on this in just one second. But first, let's take a look at that very dramatic departure announcement from Darren Grimes. We've laughed at the absurdities of modern Britain and we've stood firm. Don't do it. Stop it. In the absurdities of modern Britain
Starting point is 00:59:19 and a belief that common sense still matters and it's been an honour. And I want to express my deep gratitude to this production team, the panel and my colleagues and above all to you at home.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Don't mean to admit it. You can do it. The people that have tuned in, engaged and made this journey totally worthwhile. I'm off to pursue personal projects, but the fight for free speech, for common sense and for truth, it goes on and it must. So thank you from the bottom of my heart for watching, for supporting and for standing up for values that matter. Now, those type of departure announcements are always very interesting, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:00:07 You want to know the real story. What's really going on? It's like when Brett Cooper left the Daily Wire and she made it clear on air, oh, this is a mutual decision. But you know, deep down, there's some degree of bad blood. So what's happening with Darren Grimes? Well, after that announcement, he posted on X, the hardest decision I've ever made. I've chosen to leave GB News. Why? I need to be free to say what needs to be said without fair or compromise. We do not have time. I'm going independent. No censors. No guardrails.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Just the raw, unfiltered truth. The fight for Britain starts now. Away from Sadiq Khan's London. Back to the no-nonsense North. And he then released his own launch video, which has since gone viral. Watch. That's why we have to fight back. That's why we have to stand up. We haven't got time to be pussyfooting around, censored either by politicians or by the likes of regulators like Ofcom. It's why I'm going independent. And it's why I need your support like never before.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I've known cancellation before. Hell, I've been cancelled more times than certain iterations of the sugar babes. But I'm going independent in order, well, I'm cancelling meself at this juncture. But that independence allows me to give you what you need, to give this country what it needs, which quite frankly is a kick up the arse. Alex Phillips. Well, we didn't get to say goodbye on air. They probably for good reason didn't trust us. But what did you make firstly of the announcement? I wonder what's gone on there. look i haven't spoken to darren about it i have to wonder what's gone on there if this is really about i'm leaving this channel
Starting point is 01:01:52 because i want to do more and be able to say more without offcom or whether something else has happened behind the scenes because we worked there we know what that snake pit is like and you know yeah you're right darren actually got to say his goodbyes on air well done him I literally finished a show one day was called up to the 10th floor marched into a room and told pack your things and get out and I haven't done anything wrong and they made me sign a massive NDA in order to continue getting paid you know because I had a I had a sort of cool down period garden leave I was put on um and they made me sign a really gnarly NDA, so I'm never able to tell anybody what happened to me.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Now, you know what happened to me. You can tell whoever you want, frankly, but I can't say anything, and I'd love to. I'd love people watching this right now going, I wonder what did happen to her. You know, sometimes if you look online, what really gets me is on my Wikipedia. It sort of says, oh, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:47 she left after her show was cancelled. They didn't even put out a press release, GB News, to say she was great. We really valued her. Nothing. They just said she's gone. She's been cancelled. It was so vindictive and it was so spiteful.
Starting point is 01:03:00 It was so unpleasant because of one man's fragile ego and you have to wonder whether one man's fragile ego might have played a part in this as well you know I can't say anymore I just I'd love to I'd love to tell everybody what happened they'd be shocked and they'd be appalled and they'd probably never tune into that channel again if they knew uh the way that some people have been treated um but it is uh I've never known anything like it as a place to work I've never known anything so dysfunctional chaotic nasty at times and it you know the purpose of the channel was so good and I wholly support it and I actually had a wonderful time working there ironically I actually loved every minute uh with my little production team
Starting point is 01:03:45 and what we were making um and it broke my heart what happened to me i'm pretty sure it did for you as well but you know what what we're doing now is the future linear television is basically over people aren't tuning into stuff like that anymore it costs an arm and a leg the regulator off comes only going to get more and more aggressive in what's allowed and what isn't linear tv can't make any money either you know it's a it's a it's a sort of crazy financial hemorrhage um so you have to question how long the likes of gb news will have to exist and it seems to be sort of cutting increasingly cutting its big name talent probably because it can't afford them. And the future looks a bit grim, really. But I don't look I don't wish it as a channel bad at all.
Starting point is 01:04:37 There might be a certain character who I'm not a fan of, but I don't wish it as a channel bad at all because I'm a grown up. But you do wonder when you see something like that. OK, knowing what we know about the way that people can be treated there, is there more to this? Well, they had a pre-tax loss of £33.4 million in the year to May 2024. That has just been announced. So certainly there is a need to take expensive presenters off the docket, so to speak. I guess what I would say, though, is that it's all about how you treat people, isn't it? And for a channel that says that it's a family that tries to build up a community of viewers, I really just say to those people, where's the justification for allowing Alex Phillips to walk out in that way?
Starting point is 01:05:25 Where's the justification in treating a man like Colin Brazier in such a disrespectful manner? You know, a guy who gave up his entire mainstream media career could have just cruised to retirement at Sly News, but so believed in the project. And on the same day that you were, Alex, I remember being absolutely shell-shocked. He was marched out the building as well. Likewise, Mark Stein, a guy who had just suffered from two heart attacks. And of course, in my situation, there was a lot going on there,
Starting point is 01:05:56 but fundamentally, I guess I just would like some honesty, Alex, that this channel, fine, it wants to be off-comms bitch. It wants to appeal to advertisers. So as a result, they have made a decision no longer to be the free speech channel. I would rather that be the positioning because I would think that was more honest. As you say, I wish a lot of the people there well. Of course I do. And I certainly wish the concept of the channel well, but I just have a big problem, Alex, with them constantly saying
Starting point is 01:06:32 they remain the free speech channel. I know a little bit behind this departure. And I do know that there have been serious issues at the channel with free speech, with presenters being told they shouldn't be able to post on social media at all, with presenters being told they shouldn't tackle particular issues. We know one of the big ones, Alex, is Tommy Robinson, but there are many others too. And also even like nicknames, for example, like Rachel from Accounts or Slippery Starmer,
Starting point is 01:07:04 the presenters have been told they're not allowed to use them. Now, again, that's very interesting, isn't it, given that Rachel from Accounts was actually popularized by Lee Anderson, a Reform UK MP, who is a presenter on the channel. And I think it's very bizarre at the moment with our friend Nigel Farage Alex actually I much prefer I'm going to be totally honest I much prefer watching Nigel on his own platform his own social media where he's unregulated and he says what he thinks rather than GB News where it is so limited and so controlled and very often it feels like he's almost got a straight jacket on do you know what i mean oh i know exactly what you mean and it's true i remember i was told stop banging on about all those girl things those girl issues look at oh like like muslim rape gangs for example exactly don't talk
Starting point is 01:07:55 about that no one cares about the women um but also you know i think it's important we make clear that pretty much everybody who has been unceremoniously booted from the channel has done so because in some way or another they posed a threat to a particular man in one way or another they were he needed them gone and so it comes down to one particular personality but the rest of it look this is just the reality now of being on linear television you're governed by ofcom or you face advertising boycotts that i mean it's really hard to sustain the massive bill that comes with being on linear tv the whole system is rigged to prevent free speech and to prevent anything other than left-wing ideology it's a trap you know you can't get advertisers unless you're all sort of you know pro-dei and
Starting point is 01:08:42 pro this and pro that and anti things that are considered taboo unpalatable um and you can't sort of have proper opinionated forthright content as long as you're on television are doing what's considered current affairs and news and are regulated by off-com you know if gb news actually ironically if gb news turned itself into a comedy channel and didn't touch news at all uh and decided it wanted to be a right-wing comedy channel, then it'd be harder to touch. But it probably wouldn't get advertising because it'd face a cancellation crew. But this is the reality of the project and it shouldn't be that way. But like I said, it's just this isn't the future anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:20 You know, people aren't going to be watching stuff, tuning in at six o'clock to watch something on their televisions for much longer it is a dying thing we're living in a huge transition period right now and i don't yet think gb news has kind of figured out how to navigate that i think i don't know what they're like digitally but i don't think they've put a lot of resourcing into you know starting to build the thereafter linear and i didn didn't know about the pre-tax losses of the last financial year, but that's crazy. That's eye-watering. Well, it's unsustainable, isn't it? It's totally unsustainable.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And for example, Alex, your brilliant sub-stack, I watched last week the interview that you conducted with Charlotte Gill, who's effectively doing the UK's version of Doge, right? She calls it woke ways. And I thought, oh my goodness, that's so fascinating, because Charlotte was a former producer at GB News, who is now doing brilliant things in the independent media space. And that made me really excited, actually. I've already signed up to Darren Grimes's sub stack, I really recommend people do the same thing I think it's
Starting point is 01:10:25 DarrenGrimes.com I'm really excited to see what he does and I love the concept Alex of him feeling like he doesn't have to be in London to broadcast the news because it is true why on earth does a channel which says that it's so
Starting point is 01:10:42 all about empowering the views of those outside of London, insist on its presenters traveling down each week to be in London. Like that doesn't make any sense to me either. Richard B's just said on the live chat, Dan, is there any chance you can get Mark Stein on as a commentator? I miss his output. Do you know what?
Starting point is 01:10:59 I miss Mark too. He is a difficult man to pin down. But do you know, Alex, I am going on next month, actually, the Mark Stein cruise. So we're all going to be on a cruise together. So I'm definitely going to make sure that I get some video of Mark there and we sit down with him, but it's going to be a bit of a reunion because we've got Alison Pearson on the cruise, Lawrence Fox on the cruise, Calvin Robinson, Alilani Dowding samantha smith sammy woodhouse so i'm actually really looking forward to that so it's sort of like the old school cruise
Starting point is 01:11:30 if only you were coming to alex then it would be where's my invite that's my gag but look good luck to darren good luck to darren grimes and i very much hope that he will be on outspoken too and the great thing is you thriving, but I do think this is a real reason to say to people, support Alex Phillips on Substack. That's what she said. Support Outspoken on Substack too, because what we are trying to do is provide an alternative to the mainstream media, which is, of course, captured for all of those reasons. But Alex Phillips, I love having you on Art Spoken each week,
Starting point is 01:12:08 and we will speak again next week. Yeah, see you then. See you then. Thank you so much. Now, Greatest Britain Union jackass coming up in just a moment, but first, wow, a lot of comment coming in on the Starmer, Zelensky situation. Undeadmaster666 said, I'm disgusted with Starmer
Starting point is 01:12:27 and the nation. We all allow this degenerate to take power and we should all feel that shame. Neil Wright said, Trump says Zelensky is trying to start World War III. I think Starmer is trying to start it first. Keith Listenden said, Zelensky is an actor. Has anyone else seen the behind the scenes photos from his Vogue photo shoot with Mrs. I Need New Handbag Zelensky? I mean, I still can't believe they did that photo shoot. I was looking at it again the other day. It's like, what the hell? Emma Green said, President Trump ran on saying we would get out of Ukraine. He is keeping his promise to the American people. And of course he is.
Starting point is 01:13:06 The total opposite of what Starmer did, which is that we had no idea what he was going to do in government because he didn't tell us. Or he just completely lied. Celeste says, you don't come into our president's house and call our VP an obscene name. I don't ever want him back in this country. Brits can have him.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I don't want the king here either. That's the thing. A lot of Americans are very annoyed about King Charles getting involved in this country. Brits can have him. I don't want the king here either. So that's the thing. A lot of Americans very annoyed about King Charles getting involved in this. Olivia says Zelensky is the product of an image consultant. He thinks dressing like a toy soldier makes him a rock star. And Nicholas Glanfield wrote, Russia has hypersonic missiles well within range of the UK, Starmer is playing with fire. So absolutely fascinating insight from you there. And of course, Sipri Starmer is one of our three nominees to be today's Union Jackass. He was nominated by At It's Only Me 44 via the Dan Wooten Club on X
Starting point is 01:14:03 because he's two-faced and wanting to deploy UK troops to Ukraine and risk dragging the UK into a war with Russia. Also nominated Vladimir Zelensky by Boggy Wood for warmongering. And the third nomination on a similar theme, Rachel from Accounts, nominated by AtKarenLorry for gifting our tax money to Ukraine. Okay, this is such an interesting poll. 3% of you say today's Union jackass is Rachel Reeves. 16% of you say it is Vladimir Zelensky, but 80% of you are with me. Today's Union jackass, Slippery Starmer. Now, the greatest Britain today is a little bit of a special one for me because it was my birthday yesterday. Thank you for all of you, by the way, who sent birthday wishes. I was actually in Scotland. I've got some photos to show you because I was in Scotland with a good crew, including you might know some of those folk,
Starting point is 01:15:03 Tonya Buxton, my very good friend, who's a real freedom fighter, used to be on GB News with me, Bev Turner, who's still on GB News, and Neil Oliver, really great people, all of our partners. We had a wonderful weekend in Scotland. Thank you so much to Neil Oliver, actually, and his wonderful wife, Trudy, because they played such good hosts. Here we were at Stirling Castle. That's at Neil's home, but we were at sterling castle that's that that's at neil's home but we were at sterling castle learning of the fascinating history of that area and trust me i was very very jealous to have neil oliver as a tour guide of sterling castle i'm sure that's the dream of many of you so we had a wonderful day in scotland everyone will know how much i love being in scotland my partner is from scotland so we had a wonderful weekend in Scotland, but I was so, so blessed because my sister Ash and, uh, Marina, uh, put together
Starting point is 01:15:53 this incredible video of my niece, Ivy Dan and me together. And anyone who follows me knows that Ivy Dan is like the apple of my eye. She's totally changed the life of our family. And they made this amazing video. So the greatest Briton today, nominated by me, is Ivy Dan. And I want to share this with you. Happy birthday to you, Uncle Dan. Please dance Irish I've been on the London Eye for a long time.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Ivy's first trip on the London Eye. It was your tummy, how did I put it on? It wasn't me. I've been on the London Eye for a long time. I've been on the London Eye for a long time. I've been on the London Eye for a long time. I love you I just said to Jessie
Starting point is 01:17:24 I can't believe that I'm playing that. I'm so cringy. But, but, isn't she beautiful? Isn't she absolutely beautiful? That was the best birthday present. Actually, it was the best possible birthday present I could receive. We had to change the music, by the way, for copyright reasons. But if you want to see the original, which my sister Marina put together,
Starting point is 01:17:43 you can do so on my instagram at dan or tiktok at unspoken dan outspoken dan sorry outspoken now okay well what a show it has been but we still have a lot more coming up in the uncanceled after show on substack i'm teaming up with the royal news network ahead of tomorrow's launch of With Love Megan on Netflix. So for all of the latest Royal News, www.outspoken.live. But I am back with you tomorrow at 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. If you are watching on YouTube or Rumble, please hit the subscribe button. It's a small thing for you to do, but it makes a huge difference to us. We're building up to 300,000 subscribers actually, which is just amazing. So I'd really, really appreciate it. If you can just stop right now,
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