Dan Wootton Outspoken - HENRY NOWAK FAMILY TURN ON KEIR STARMER AS TOMMY ROBINSON KATIE HOPKINS & NIGEL FARAGE HIT BACK

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: Donald Trump’s US government condemns Slippery Starmer over the murder of Henry Nowak, as Britain’s despicable Labour government and tone deaf MSM continue to prove they are more angry about Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson and Rupert Lowe than the bodycam footage of the Essex teenager’s anti-white slaughtering. Reform UK leader Nigel Farage stands strong as that hypocrite deputy Prime Minister David Lammy admits he’d never take a knee for Henry, despite his entire party doing so for George Floyd. But what’s worse is the way Two Tier Keir is now openly lying about the feelings of Henry Nowak’s family. We’ve got the posts that prove they are against this Labour government. There’s also a war on the right over the Sikh role in Henry Nowak’s death with Tommy Robinson going head to head with Connor Tomlinson on the issue. Well Connor will be here straight after to respond. PLUS: The BBC Question Time ban on Rupert Lowe’s Restore Britain completely backfires, as another poll shows the party in third place in the Makerfield by-election. AND: A new Talk TV feud between former friends Mike Graham and Julia Hartley Brewer as Plank of the Week gets drawn into the drama. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: A major new royal feud between Prince William and the princesses Beatrice and Eugenie explodes just 24 hours before tomorrow’s royal wedding. We’ll reveal the implications with Paula Froelich Uncensored. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And breaking today, Donald Trump's U.S. government condemns slippery stammer over the murder of Henry Novak. as Britain's despicable Labor Administration and tone-deaf MSM continue to prove they are more angry about Elon Musk, about Tommy Robinson, about Rupert Lowe, than the actual body cam footage of the Essex teenagers' anti-white slaughtering. Nigel Farage has been trying to persuade the Americans, Trump and others and the Republican Party to make a comment about what's happened here in the UK this week.

Elon must really, I think he should stay out of this complex but painful situation. It's almost as if he's auditioning to be a future Bond villain. But Reform UK leader Nigel Farage is standing strong as that hypocrite we just saw that Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy admits he would never take a knee for Henry Novak despite his entire party doing so for George Floyd. I have never seen a time when our political leaders and most of our mainstream media have been more out of touch on their reflection of an incident than they've been over the course of the last three days. Would you take the need for Mr Novak?

Well, look, I think to honour what that found... Was he yes or no, Mr Lammy? Would you take the need for Henry Novak? I think no. But what's worse is the way to tear care is now openly lying about the feelings of Henry Novak's family. We've got the posts to prove that they are against this Labour government. There's also a war on the right over the Sikh's role in Henry Novak's death, with Tommy Robinson going head to head with Connor Tomlinson on the issue. Now ask yourself this.

Will Henry Now ask yourself this. Will Henry Nowerke have a museum named after him? Will his mother or father get a peerage? Will they get Rhodes named after him? Not Stephen Lawrence. No one's even mentioning their name. I don't know how many Sikhs you know. Did you go out with any Sikhs? Did you go to school with any Sikhs?

I wonder what your actual interaction with Sikhs is. Well, Connor will be here straight after the Digest to respond to Tommy. Also coming up on the show today, the BBC Question Time ban on Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain completely backfires as a new poll shows the party in third place in the Makerfield by election. Civil War breaks out at BBC Newsnight as fellow presenter Kirsty Walk makes a bullying complaint

against star host Victoria Derbyshire and there's a new talk TV feud between former friends Mike Graham and Julia Hartley Brewer as Plank of the Week gets drawn into this drama I'll give you the inside story. Then in the Royal Uncancalled show on Substack a major new royal fight too

between Prince William and the Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie has exploded just 24 hours before tomorrow's Royal Reading so we'll reveal the implications with Paula Frolic uncensored. Because it is a Friday. We will also be revealing

the worst Britain in the world this week. Honestly, I think we've had over 60,000 votes so far, which is just absolutely incredible. This is when we put your union jackasses from across the week hit-ed. Actually, we've got over 75,000 votes. You guys are incredible. The nominees from Monday, Body Blue,

from Tuesday, Carol Vorderman, from Wednesday, Slippery Stama, from Thursday, James O'Brien. Keep voting. Keep your comments coming in and I will reveal the winner at the end of the show. But now, let's go. It has been an extraordinary week that has changed Britain forever and woken many patriots up to the fact that the political class and the mainstream media

are the true enemy of the native population as they refuse to acknowledge the anti-white agenda. But the emotional impact of watching Henry Novak die in an anti-white. white slaughtering with a Sikh ceremonial knife allowed by the corrupted police is still driving patriots like Jim Davidson to tears. I've never seen anything like this. Henry Nowak has been knifed to death and the police officers on the scene arrested a dying man. What's happened to you, right? You've been stabbed. Whereabouts?

I don't think you have, mate. Not only are they incompetent and useless, they're arresting a man who's been knifed to death, been stabbed six times, and he told the police I've been stabbed, I can't breathe, and they ignored him, put handcuffs on him, and arrested him for racial aggravated assault or something. Is this what it's come to? You can be murdered. What it serves, you're right, mate, you're a racist. Tom one fucking do something about this. I think one of the things that is hardest to accept is the hypocrisy. The hypocrisy is Katie Hopkins so eloquently argued between the left-wing politicians

and the MSM anti-English millionaire shills like Pears Morgan, who argued for action when George Floyd was killed, but now want restraint when it's one of our own. Indeed, as she says, this is now a fight between good and evil. Thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to be there. Turning up matters. I apologise that I wasn't there, but you were and what you did matter to many, many people. I was on American news networks and showing them you guys at that protest.

Secondly, we're going to hear a lot from the very politicians who banged on and on a lot, about George Floyd and took a knee, said it's righteous anger that we feel that it's good to demand justice. You have to fight for justice. All those people on the left who made such a big deal about George Floyd and called it righteous and encouraged people to protest. Pierce Morgan, the guy who was forcing lockdowns on everybody but celebrated his son being at the protest, for example. All those hypocrites now urging restraint when it's one of our own and the protest is righteous. And I think really importantly as well is that we're,

there's just a side that's just good, there's a side that's just good people, there's good and evil, there's light and there's darkness. And my sense on that is that people on the side of good we don't really need to fight, we don't need to fall out, we don't need to call each other names, we don't need to make untrue memes, We don't need to chop someone else's words up to make them look bad so that you look better.

We don't need to try and own the conversation or the debate. We don't need to be the guy that's leading the conversation. We can just kind of all rally under a big umbrella where you don't all have to agree on everything. Of course not. But we can rally under this big umbrella that says this is right and that's wrong. Because Katie is insistent that we as patriots must now keep the pressure. on. It's important to keep the pressure on because what happened with that whole body cam footage, probably the most difficult thing is the haunting images. So many people haunted by the colour of the

hands, like as a mum, but as a dad, as anyone, the colour of that child's hands can see instantly they're not right. And then the callousness of, I don't think you have, mate. That's the haunting stuff that I'm imagining isn't leaving many people. And it's that kind of callousness that we have to root out in order that good wins. And the pressure is now coming with Trump's US government condemning slippery Stama via this bombshell announcement from the Department of State. Ideological conditioning and two-tiered policing are glaring symptoms of civilizational decline. They must be rejected across the West. The United States sends our condolences to the family of Henry Novak and the people of the United Kingdom at this troubling time.

Now, Sly News, which cares much more about Elon Musk caring about Henry Novak than about Henry Novak himself, of course, we're immediately horrified by this news and blamed Nigel Farage again. Need to bring you a bit of breaking news, John, to get your reaction on intervention from top level of the US administration here on this very story. The State Department has put out a statement on X. It reads ideological conditioning and two-tiered policing are glaring symptoms of civilizational decline. They must be rejected across the West. The United States sends our condolences to the family of Henry Novak and the people of the United Kingdom at this troubling time.

A little bit resonant of some of the commentary we've seen from Elon Musk as well. Well, it's suggested that Nigel Farage has been trying to persuade the Americans, Trump and others and the Republican Party to make a comment about what's happened here in the UK this week. I see that the statement has come from the Department. It's not come from Mario Rubio or Arco Rubio or one of the leading Trump supporters like, for example, J.D. Varns. But it doesn't mention the UK, but it's pretty clear that it looks like a reference to that phrase, two-tiered policing. Indeed, they even branded Elon Musk, whose support for our troubled country I am so grateful for, I don't know about you. They even branded him a Bond villain.

Isn't it a bit odd that Mr Farage, who claims to lead a patriotic movement and has claimed to do this for many years, is seeking to get endorsement from the US president and is sometimes taking his instructions from the US president and sometimes trying to get the US president to help him out when he's a fix. I'm not sure that the British electorate will take kindly to being told from outside, whether it's from a billionaire or a millionaire president, I don't think this is a miscalculation as well as ill-judged by Mr Farage. What have you made, Shami, of what the Prime Minister had to say about Elon Musk in his interventions? I mean, he's tweeted more than 110 times about UK politics over the last, I think, week or so,

three times more than the number of times he's tweeted about SpaceX, which he's launching on the stock market. in just over a week. It's almost as if he's auditioning to be a future bond villain. On sly news this morning, the shameful Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy lectured must to get on with Starlink and just forget about Henry Novak. I think there's an IPO this week in the States on Starlink. Elon must get on with that.

I mean, tweeting over 100 times about this tragic, horrific case. anyone who's seen the video, it's so harrying and appalling. I've got two teenage sons. My heart goes out to the Novak family. Let us not exploit their situation. They have asked for calm. They have asked, of course, for us to look closely at the issues around knife crime.

Let us respect them. Elon must really, I think he should stay out of this. complex but painful situation for that family. But I will tell you, Sly News, who the only victims are. It's the people lying about the true feelings of Henry Novak's family, these poor people who had the displeasure of meeting two-tier care at Downing Street last night. But all week, I have been telling you how the government is misleading you about how the family really feel,

given that we know via the Southampton Times they were watching and supporting the Southampton. protest, given we know Henry Novak's sister, Olivia Novak, reposted Robert Jenrick, lecturing Jabana McMood on the death of her brother in his white lives matter speech. And now there is even more, black and white evidence via Joe McCain, who revealed, so it turns out Henry's stepdad doesn't like Kirstama. Now here are those posts from David Stevenson. There is a repost of an image of a banner saying, please do not draw dickpicks on your ballot people last time he got in.

Another repost is an image of Kirstama Photoshop to look like he's taking part in a game show. With the caption, we asked 48 million voters what would make you vote Labor again. You said Gordon Brown, if it's up there, I'll give you the money myself. But more significantly, even this week, one shows a repost of Danny Tomo saying he will be. gathering with Tommy Robinson at the Southampton protest. Another repost showing imagery of the protest with the captioned Southampton is packing out, people are angry. So, number one, you're being misled about how the Novak family really feel. Number two, it's actually the left politicising this.

As Leo Kerr so strongly argued, I'm pretty sure that when Henry Novak's father said he did not want his son's death to create more division, he did not mean I want left-wing politicians and commentators to weaponise my grief to shut down debate, yet that is exactly what is happening. It's disgusting to see his words misappropriated as a political battering ram used to attack anyone who asked difficult questions about the way Henry was treated and about the anti-wide ideology explicitly codified in the public sector. Mr Novak also said the police treatment of his dying son was inhumane and degrading. We should make sure no other British child is treated the way Henry was. And by the way, why would Henry's father support Labor, given Lammy said he wouldn't even take a knee for their boy, even though they did

just that for George Floyd. And there is now a growing viral movement showing patriots who are feeling what Nigel Farage describes as that pure cold rage about Henry's murder, posting themselves on social media, taking the knee for the teenage lad who they never knew, but who has changed the country. Now, my personal position on this is that I would not take a knee for anyone. I thought it was awful for George Floyd. But watch Nick Ferrari on LBC this morning brilliantly skewer Lamy over his total hypocrisy. Suggesting this is a take the knee for Henry Novak moment. Would you take the knee for Mr. Novak?

Well, look, I think to honour... was a yes or no Mr Lammy would you take the knee for Henry Nowback? I think no because look I don't think that the family are asking for symbolism they're asking for genuine common sense policing and for them they want to see a reduction

in knife crime and of course they're concerned about some of the policing that they saw So you agree taking the knee is mere symbolism isn't it really it was a bit of a charade at times that was a moment back then when we were still in the pandemic this is today, this is this particular incident in our country that's heart-rending.

And my heart goes out to this family and my determination is to do all we can to reduce knife crime in this country. But where there are perpetrators, they should see the full face of the law. But this hypocrisy is everywhere across the MSM. After refusing to say white lives are as important as black lives in that car crash interview with Zia Yusuf, sly news as Cathy Newman is now railing with fury against. so-called far-right figures Musk, Rupert Lowe and Tommy Robinson. In fact, she's more angry about Musk reposting those two patriots than she is about Henry Novak. But consensus isn't really what Elon Musk does. For nearly a fortnight, he's been posting in lurid terms about the murder.

He responded approvingly, for example, to the ex-reform party MP Rupert Lowe, who vowed this week that his new party, Restore Britain, would, and I quote, with the British people's approval, put Vikram Digwa, Novak's murderer, to death. And Musk has amplified the far right before. Here he is last year, beaming into a Tommy Robinson rally, bemoaning what he sees as a threat to freedom of speech in the UK. If this continues, that violence is going to come to you.

You will have no choice. You're in a fundamental situation here whether you, where, whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die. Well, Elon, tonight the Labor government appears to be fighting back against you. Here's Labor backbencher Jess Asato, who backed by the PM is suing Musk's AI company over vile images created of her by his chatbot.

Nobody should be above the law, not if they're the richest man in the world. But as Reform UK's Aaron Banks pointed out, Kathy Newman believes she is the victim in this story too, not Henry Novak, writing, In the last 48 hours, I've been deluged with hundreds of vile, misogynistic tweets and death threats. Why?

For doing my job, asking to your use of questions about claims by Nigel Farage of two-tier policing. I spoke about this on tonight's show. Enough is enough. So no wonder, with lunatics like that running our country, Nigel Farage is standing by his comments and actually going further.

on G.B. News. I believe in my 35 years of being involved in current affairs and politics. I have never seen a time when our political leaders and most of our mainstream media have been more out of touch on their reflection of an incident than they've been over the course of the last three days. And I think just to say we must come together, just to say we'll crack down hard on the far right, what you have to do is provide solutions.

And the only solution here is genuine radical change to a perverse agenda that has now swung a pendulum from what may well have been a problem too far in the other direction. And that is what I'm seeking. And if this goes on through the summer with more riots and more bad behaviour, it's not being inciting it. I want it stopped. Even woke wet Kemi Badenock is now warning of civil war, surprise, surprise, the losers in her Tory party aren't happy about it. Rather than use the political conflict as a way to get some votes from one particular community,

parties which do that, politicians who do that, they may get to benefit in the short term, but in the long term, that's how you end up with civil war. That's how you end up with civil war. Are we potentially in that sort of territory if we don't get this right? Not anytime soon. No, I don't think we're potentially in the civil war scenario. now. But if we don't sort it now, then we're leaving

a much worse country to our children. I have to say, in recent days, I was speaking to a senior conservative who was rather dreading the moment when these words would appear in public in the public domain. This source said to me, I can't walk back

what Kemi Bade Nock said. Now, we know how the government intends to deal with all of this. They want to jail patriotic protesters brutally. while ignoring the police who were responsible for further brutality at the Southampton protests. This from Colonel Clink. The following police office need removing from front line duty for attempted murder.

Hampshire Police, your riot training is lacking, your forces dangerous, out of control, violent, and not operating within the law. Both these officers need suspending this morning with immediate effect. Now, you can go and look at that footage yourself and make your own mind up. But to me, it was utterly brutal. Yet Stama intends to criminalise the patriotic protesters, of course, with the Mercyon reporting that Daniel Frost has been jailed for pushing a bin. The case has now been sent to the Crown Court, but he has been remanded in custody. And this is why Tommy Robinson is so angry.

Now ask yourself this. Will Henry Nowerke have a museum named after him? Will his mother or father get a peerage? Will they get Rhodes named after him? Not Stephen Lawrence. even mentioning their name. The New York Times haven't wrote one article. They wrote hundreds about George Floyd. This is the

bias. We are victims. No one. We're the biggest victims of racism, white people. Our daughters are the biggest victims of racism, white girls. That's the fact. Why is that not on none of your websites? Police. Policing unit? Your future of policing for safety of the country? What about

us? What about us? That's the problem here. Everything is targeted against us. And protection of minorities. We're a fucking minority now. And none of those protections are given to us. Nothing is aimed us. But Tommy has also clashed with Connor Tomlinson over the risk the Sikh population causes to Britons.

Connor posted the Sikh community has been more interested in deflecting blame from themselves trying to save face and preserve their privileged legal status in our country than an expressing solidarity with Henry Novak's grieving family. Tommy responded, You say but the majority of Sikhs would side against the British people if they decide to ban all immigration from India to halt and reverse demographic change. I say, where is the evidence of this? What empirical source are you referring to when making such a bold claim?

Framing a statement that's not backed up with any empirical evidence means you are leading with a straw man argument, which is by definition dangerous. Are there any polls out there backing up your claim? I'd love to see one. Basil the Great then posted this video of a Sikh casually calling up LBC and threatening extreme violence. You know where I'm going now, don't you? Go on. I'm going to my local Gordorah to make sure no one comes near that space,

and I'm going to protect the perimeter. I am a trained person. And if anyone brings any violence towards my house and my house of prayer, it's going to be extreme and utter violence. Well, we've had the Sikh... Well, I mean, obviously, I need to tell you that that, you know, is obviously against the law,

but we need to... Yes, it is. But defending yourself isn't. Well, of course. but, I mean, let's hope that this doesn't spill out into people attacking Sikhs. Well, I hope I agree with you, but as I say as a British citizen, as an ex-serviceman, that is proud to serve my country, I am absolutely raging with what I'm seeing at the only. How stupid are people to be listening to people like this that just want the destruction of this country?

and whilst Nigel Farage sits back with a, I don't know, a glass of red wine. He has a right to be angry. He has a right to be angry, doesn't it? Not over the father of Mark Novak, the actual father of Henry Novak, who requested that please do not make

this about six. Do not make this about the Gipan? Do not make this a violence, and I don't want my son's murder to be seen as this. So Conor Thominson went on to Tommy. I think you've misunderstood me or have conflated things that other people have said with what I have said. I don't advocate for arbitrarily mistreating decent people.

My position has never been to expel every non-British person from the country on ethnic grounds. I advocate for policies based on behaviour. I advocate for the preferences and prejudices of the British people to the priority of the nation's state. Meaning if we decide to ban the Kurpan or ban halal slaughter or end immigration from India, we should do that in the interest of the British people. Special pleading by this group or that country shouldn't affect back. decision. That prompted Tommy to say this. Connor, just so you know, the Sikh, this prick, moves in a circle where the man who's

running their campaign to claim it was racist works alongside, I forget the name of the group, works alongside the main trustee of Hope Not Hate, who's the Sikh, who's a total left-wing extremist pretty much, he's a Sikh MP. So there are many different schools of thought within the Sikh community. I know loads of Sikh groups. They hate them. They're at loggerheads themselves. They hate him.

So there's a far left element within the Sikh community who capitalised on this, who jumped straight on it through hope not hate, jump straight up it on it to push the racist agenda, to use and weaponise the racist agenda. I looked at it, I've got the pictures of them all together. I've been looking at it, yeah? But that ain't all Sikhs, obviously, yeah? And the majority of Sikhs, I think you're wrong.

I don't think they would stand against Britain. I really don't. So, I think you're wrong. I don't know how many Sikhs you know. Did you go out with any Sikhs? Did you go to school with any Sikhs? I wonder what your actual interaction with Sikhs is. Because you're looking at one.

This is one instant. One instant. The only instant, actually. The only instant. the only incident from really the only real murder but I know of that I've seen

and I have a community that's been here for 60, 78 years so what's your what are you saying you want the Sikhs to leave Britain? Well to answer that Connor Thominson is here Connor great to have you

Tommy Robinson has asked you a direct question there I thought this was a great opportunity for you to respond Yeah, Dan, I did respond. He also asked me for some substantial evidence as to whether or not Sikhs would oppose banning immigration from India and to a large extent reversing it, because both Robinson and I agree that it's an undesirable fate to not only become a demographic minority in our own country, but having run the numbers with two kids of my own on the way, Tommy has kids, my kids by the time they're born are going to be a minority in their own generation by 2031. So we don't do something about this, you know, it's going to be inevitable. One of the best measures would be to ban all. all Indian migration, we get hundreds of thousands of them every year, they're the number one nation responsible for immigration into Britain. I don't think Sikhs would support that, because it would be very uncomfortable conversation at the Goodwara to say, yeah, sorry, we voted for a party that isn't going to let

more Sikhs into the country. And the evidence that I provided was, in the last few elections, Sikhs have voted overwhelmingly for the Labour Party, despite Labour famously being the client party of Pakistani Muslims, which Sikhs have been at war with, on the Indian subcontinent, for hundreds of years. It's why Sikhism exists in the first place. I also cited the 2024 Sikh manifesto that various Labour and conservative politicians signed in order to pander to secure the sectarian votes of the Sikh community. It was written by one of the Sikh Federation groups that has been putting out these apology videos

for Henry Novak's murder saying this doesn't represent Sikhism. I think Tommy Asha shared one of them. In there, it wanted to criminalise anti-Sikh rhetoric the same way that Islamophobic rhetoric is criminalized. almost exactly the same wording that I've just relayed to you now, is in that manifesto, as well as the parallel Hindu manifesto that said, we need more liberal visa routes for the elderly relatives, dependents, and religious workers of Hindus to come into Britain, many Tory MPs sign that too. So I just put forward to Tommy saying, if your goal is to stop mass demographic replacement,

if your goal is to stop the anti-white system of laws which privileges all minority groups above the native population, If that is your goal, then I don't think the Sikh community writ large, regardless of individual Sikhs that Tommy has friendships with, regardless of good Sikhs that I've personally met, I don't think they would support that. And the voting patterns and their advocacy organisations seems to suggest I am right.

And Tommy didn't refute that. Instead, what he started to do, Dan, and I did reply to Tommy, because he said, you know, I'll send me a DM, we'll talk more. I did send him one, but he hasn't responded. He only responded publicly instead. What he did instead in that video is sort of, insinuate that I have the Steve Laws position, which is I want to expel everyone based on race. Which is strange because Tommy has praised my work in the past and been quite polite to me.

And so I don't think he thinks I hold that position. I think that was a sort of distraction technique away from the core issue, which is Sikhs have got a lot of bad PR at the moment. And it's because they might be against Islam, but when the chips are down, they're not going to stand against a system which privileges their religious minority over the native population, even if Muslims also benefit from it. And at the very least, surely it is utterly ludicrous that in Christian Britain there is an exemption to the law that allows Sikhs to carry swords in public. And I think that's something, Connor, that until this case, most Britons were unaware of. Yeah. And I would just like to say, Dan, I don't think that they should be able to carry the kerpan around, but that's because it's not my religion. It's not the culture that's indigenous to Britain.

I think that if Native Britons that were properly cultured, like the Boy Scouts, for example, or builders, were carrying around pocket knives and pen knives, we wouldn't have mass stabbings, and it's because of the culture of the people carrying the knives. And until now, I was like, well, you know, you don't really get Sikh mass stabbings, and I understand this is a bit of an outlier,

though there have been Sikhs, you know, committing crimes in the country, and every single Sikh that commits a crime in Britain didn't need to be in the country, so it's a crime that didn't need to happen. So whether or not it's a per capita basis higher than Muslims or even white Brits, still all optional. Nevertheless, what the difference is between Brits and people from the Indian subcontinent, whether Sikhs, Muslims or Hindus, is that they have a concept called Isat. They will save face.

It's a concept that's very alien to us because we basically treat people as if there are equals. We show the moral consideration. We have manners, right? And this isn't very common around the rest of the world. In India, again, Pakistan, Bangladesh, take a pick. The idea is the family is the primary unit of society. And so if you do something which honours your family, including lying, cheating, stealing, killing to preserve the social standing of your family relative to other families, because that will advantage you in arranged marriages or business deals or social debts,

then that is the moral thing to do rather than be honest. And that's why the Digwa family covered up the murder. It's why they all conspired to hold Henry Novak down when he was dying. It's why they lied to the police. It's why the mother took the blade and tried to stash it away. And it's why, in the Daily Mail, yesterday, as I was arguing with Tommy, or debating, I think. It was, you know, good face as possible. The Daily Mail published an interview with Digwood's grandmother who insisted that the mother did the right thing,

that the mother would only do what any mother would do, and she actually raised the boys really well. Now, funnily enough, I think Henry Novak's mother, stepmother, father and stepfather, managed not to raise a psychopathic killer. I think Henry Novak's parents, if Henry Novak were the offending party in that situation, would not have tried to shield their son from consequences. They probably would have called an ambulance for the bleeding boy that was dying at their feet. Not the same with people from the third world.

We don't understand how these people think, and I'm sorry, if they're going to behave like that, if they're going to form clanish organisations that lobby the government to maintain a privileged social status over us at our expense in our country, then they just shouldn't be here. And Connor, speaking of the Novak family, as I outlined in the Digest,

they have been revoltingly politicised by the left this week. David Lammy was doing it again this morning. But actually, my investigation shows it's not even how they feel. That's the case for many families, Dan. And this is something that I've spoken about before. And if I'm incorrect here, I'll happily retract my statements. But as we see in America, and as we see in the UK, the government gets involved when there is a killing or an atrocity of this sort that has the potential

to inflame racial tensions or upset community cohesion. The British government does it with Raiku and the Behavioural Insights Team, the Nudge Unit. The American government does it with the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service. And what they do is they go to victims' families, and they pressure them, and they say, well, you don't want to disrupt the court proceedings. You don't want to sabotage trial, and you don't want to result in riots that could do those things. So what you need to do is, you need to put out a statement that we will help you craft,

which is conciliatory and which turns down the tension, which says, I don't want this to be political, which says, for example, that Henry was the most inclusive boy you've ever met. It means that we don't go to extreme positions to secure justice. This isn't a racial thing, it isn't about Sikhism, it's purely about knife crime, a logistical issue that the state can sort out by banning more things. This is why the Southport killer's identity was withheld by the state. And you had the chief of Merseyside police saying, well, we thought we would strategically leak his parents' Christian identity

entity to deflect blame away from the Muslim community and migrants. It's why after the Manchester Arena bombing, there was that controlled spontaneity event at the vigil where people started singing, don't look back in anger. And that's why even Noel Gallagher has turned around and said, yeah, they hijacked that song, the government hijacked it. You should be angry, actually. It's why Nigel Farrow is right. You should be infuriated. Because not only did this crime never need to happen, not only is it the consequence of the express ideology

that is turning us into second-class citizens in our own country. Not only that, but the state is lying about it and they're gaslighting you. And they are using Henry's grieving family as a human shield to say we shouldn't have accountability. Meanwhile ignoring, and I thought this was an excellent interview you did yesterday down, ignoring the likes of Chabon White, whose daughter Rianan Skywhite was killed by Deng Chongmejek, man who never needed to be in the country, illegal migrant. She was pressured during the trial to say nothing. And afterwards she comes out and said, Starmes got blood in his hands.

If you want to keep girls like my daughter safe to ensure there's never another Rianan and Skywhite killed, bereaved family taken away from her son, then you need to stop illegal migration and deport illegal migrants. And funnily enough, Kirstamba didn't respect her wishes. It's because it wasn't part of their preferred narrative. And so I have to say, nothing but respect to Henry's family. I'm sure that I can't imagine it, right? I've seen my grandparents lose a loser son and it broke the family apart, but not in this violent a fashion. That being said, biding by the state's line to not look back in anger will not stop my future son or daughter from becoming a Henry Novak or Rianan and Skywhite. And so it really is time to admit that we've got a problem here and we have to do

everything possible to prevent it. Indeed. And my point is that I don't even think that is really how they feel. I think they have been terribly misrepresented. And I hope we hear more from them in the weeks and months ahead like we have heard more from Chavon White. With Britain a tinderbox and the political situation completely untenable, there is a. is a real groundswell towards not just Reform UK, but Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain. And this decision by the British Bashing Corporation to exclude Rupert Lowe's party from question time has totally backfired. So we saw on the night Andy Burnham announced that he will run for Prime Minister. But of course, the biggest elephant in the room was summed up very nicely

by Oliver Lewis, who posted this image. And it was totally true, completely true. And even the BBC were unable to hold to their line of pretending that Restore Britain is completely irrelevant in the Makerfield race. So I want to show you by starting how they introduced the big news bulletin immediately after that question time special without Restore on the stage. Hello to you for the first time the leading contenders in the Makerfield by-election in Greater Manchester have appeared together debating the key issues before the vote, which takes place exactly two weeks from today.

Five of the candidates sat down together for a BBC question time special before a television audience with trust in politics, as well as the controversy over the death of Henry Novak, two of the main talking points. It is seen as one of the most consequential by-elections of recent times, with the outcome, potentially affecting the future of Sarkia Stama as Prime Minister. And tonight, Andy Burnham confirmed what many had expected. He will run for the Labour leadership if he wins. So Clive Myrie pretending that Restore Britain doesn't exist. The problem is, at that moment, a new poll dropped,

the second Makerfield by election poll. And even though Rupert Lowe believes that this servation sampling is wrong, look, it still shows Restore Britain rising one point in third place. Now, the other people who were on that stage, the Greens, the Lib Dems and the Conservatives, polling at two or one percent. So, of course, as the BBC's News Bulletin went on, the political editor, Chris Mason, had to mention Restore Britain. He couldn't hold the silence, but he did that ludicrous thing of pretending. Oh, no one knows this party that I'm talking about. Watch. As far as reform are concerned, they are clearly competitive, no doubt about it.

and Labour are keenly aware of that too. Reform, though, are aware of a party called Restore Britain set up by a former Reform MP, perhaps nibbling away at some of their supports, a reform emphasising that they see this absolutely as a two-horse race. There is no doubt about it, Clive. Superlatives are often used in a misplaced way in politics. This by-election is absolutely huge

and has implications for all of us. Chris, stop patronising us. We know exactly who Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain is. Rupert furious about this on Times Radio. So I think its duty is to inform, educate, and entertain with complete impartiality. And the key word is impartiality. And as a national monopoly, if your charter says that's what you should do, that's what you should do. And we have written basically to the BBC today, we've posted that on X.

and we've written to offcom as well and ultimately we don't think this is right it's not the way in which the BBC should behave and it's a breach of their charter so you'll have to ask them why they didn't ask us I've no doubt they'll come up with some sort of some reason why

but I don't think any reason is justifiable quite frankly given even given what I call the bent servation poll which is not reflective of what's happening on the ground I see the canvassing returns each day, and I can tell you, we are in the race. We're in it to win it. There's no question about that. What's ironic here is that what the BBC are doing is actually playing into the hands of Reform UK,

who have admitted this week, Zia Yusuf actually admitted on stage that he understands. I mean, this was honest of him, understands why Restore is searching. many people in this country feel so left behind, that they're looking for what they perceive to be the highest octane propellant to throw at the political establishment. That is totally understandable, certainly to me. And my response to that is that, look,

I've dedicated my life to try to be one of those propellants, at least. And Nigel Farage has been as dedicated as almost an entire adult. life to these issues. And there is one party and one political leader capable of delivering the thing that you want. But Conlon Tomlinson summed up the problem with Zia Yusuf, writing Zia Yusuf demonstrating yet again, he is one of the few members of reform with enough political acumen to foresee that estranging the base and softening on immigration rhetoric could cost the party everything. Unfortunately, he didn't foresee that before filing a false police report

against Rupert Lowe causing Restore Britain to exist in the first place, which is completely true. Then you get to the Alex Phillips position on this. And, you know, I put Alex Phillips position directly to Rupert Lowe this week. I've had conversations with her afterwards. But this position is that there is a big conspiracy going on. It involves Russian bots. It involves a plan to get the Conservative party back in power. And Rupert Lowe is some type of stooge in that. But Basil the Great revealed that the Lotus Eaters have found that a number of accounts supporting Restore Britain and Alex Phillips, who Alex Phillips claimed were bots in a report, have actually turned out to be accounts run by British people. And Connor spoke about this on the Lotus Eaters.

He's smeared because there's one step away from them being in cells. This is the in-cell party. It's like, no, this is the mum and dad party, actually. That's why Alex Phillips' attacks haven't any cut through. She's saying it's the political wing of the manosphere. And it's like, I'm sorry. one, I'd throw Andrew Tate in prison because he's a pornographer. But two, most people are just like married with kids.

And when you're having, and I'm sorry to take it to personal attacks, when you're having Nigel Farrell's mistress also interviewing Nigel Farrell's current mistress, while Nigel Farage's third mistress is making up stuff about Restore on Twitter. And, well, none of them have intact marriages and one or two of them don't have children on their own. It's just it doesn't land. No. And Farrell's conceded this at the art conference in 2024, but he was there, didn't he?

It was like, oh, family, community, country. I appreciate it. I'm not brilliant on those things. Yes. It's like, yeah, okay, you're not. But the point is, no, it's not an in-sell party. It's a mum's and dad's party. And we've had enough, and we don't care anymore. Which is why the posters are going up.

Now, Alex is very angry about those claims, especially in regards to what Rupert Lowe said to me earlier in the week. Watch. Is there any secret deal with the Conservatives? does Restore want to see the Conservatives back into power and do you have these daily conversations with Kemi Badenok as Farage's close ally claimed? Well, absolutely not is the answer to that

and neither Lowes Perry nor Alex Phillips as you know I was in the European Parliament with Alex. Both of them are close, if not too close to Nigel Farage and have historically been so. So, you know, they aren't in a position ready to act as what I would call independent commentators on the subject. But the answer on the Tory party is definitely not. Now, Alex insists that that is a misogynistic approach from Rupert

and denies anything inappropriate. She says she is in this for the country. And that's why she claims she has released what she has described as the plan. And she says it is about as dirty in politics as it gets. Now, I've asked Alex, numerous times to come on outspoken, to debate Connor directly, to have this conversation, she has declined those requests. She says she doesn't speak for Reform UK. But on her substack, she said, I have been appraised of leaked documents related to a master plan, a plan which

for the sake of the nation must be derailed. First off, for legal reasons, you will not see these documents, at least not yet. Whether they surface at all as not my call, were it up to me and were I able to, would leak the entire thing. But they are not in my personal position. The convoluted by hook and crook process just to get someone's eyes on has felt rather like being in a Dan Brown novel. Remote locations, transfers of security bonds, a timer for how long the document can be seen. In order to protect this chain of release, I cannot say much more. People involved in its leaks would be outrage, possibly endangered. The guardrails would come up. The plotters would double down. But what has been relayed to me by the operative who did manage to access, said,

was an extremely well-wrought manual outlining the governance of Britain under a newly branded Conservative Party. Now, she says that Rupert Lowe features in this document in a symbolic way without an elected position, but with an ever-present hand of control. She says the 12,000 page file talks about reform in the past tense. She says there's no mention of Farage, but she says the plan is already in motion. It reaffirms what I had already worked out. Restore Britain is a SIOP spoiler designed to crush reform support to below the majority for forming a government. By doing so Farage would face a grim choice, allow a socialist coalition of doom, or allow a merger with the Conservatives to the country's sake, the price of which would

be his own political career. Now, Conor Thomanson, firstly, obviously I wish Alex Phillips was here and we could have that debate. And we don't need to make this personal because actually this is about the claim that she has made in regards to restore Britain being some type of sciop. Now, how do you respond to what she has claimed, I guess, on her substack in regards to what she describes as the plan. Well, I don't see, first of all, Dan, why not being an official spokesperson for Reform UK would prohibit Alex from coming on your show and trying to back up these claims, because I'm not an official spokesperson for Restore Britain, either.

I just am broadly supportive of what my close friends four years are trying to do, even if the party is fledgling and, hey, make some mistakes. And, hey, even on your show, I've been critical of them. So don't see why that would stop Alex, nevertheless. less. If you're going to try and accuse the party of being some grand conspiracy, perhaps don't make your first post so full of errors that everyone can pick it apart. So she got the wrong donor, the wrong Agnew, first of all, she said it was some sort of Tory lord or something, was actually his brother. She cited to a son piece that cited anonymous Tory sources that said,

well, we offered Rupert Lowe the Witt, but he kept saying no. And then there was another piece, funnily enough that she didn't cite to, but it was put out a few days after by Christian Calgi, who's of course been writing lots of hip pieces on her story, he's been following reform around on the campaign trails. So shame, I quite like Calgary actually. Nevertheless, he actually spoke to a Tory source, and they said, yeah, the Tory party were trying to call Rupert into the party to spite reform, but Rupert kept politely declining

because he wants to maintain good relationships with other MPs despite being a different party, but they tried to give him that committee assignment, and then he took it anyway and set up, restore. And they actually said there was an anonymous Tory MP said in there, there would be a mass revolt from the backbenchers, if Rupert were ever given the whip, and Kemi knows that. So the entire Tory party would flip their lid if Rupert Lowe were allowed in, because Rupert Lowe has promised to do things like, I don't know,

ban all legal migration from India, which is territory that Pretty Patel, shockingly enough, or the party led by Rishi Sunak, would never go to. And then there's this accusation that she's got a 12,000-page document that proves definitively that restore as a Tory plump. Now, knowing Rupert, knowing all the lads working around Rupert, that's not the case. I mean, don't forget, Harrison Pitt is the policy chief, Chief for Restore Britain. Harrison and I used to have a podcast where week after week we were analysing the Tory leadership race and reform, and we kept saying that Kimmy Beidnock is an anti-white

racist because she used the word white as a pejorative against David Tennant and her university friends. And she made her career as, yes, the person who hates critical race theory, but her entire framework was, well, if the Tory party were racist, then I wouldn't be so high up, with the implication being that the Tory party needs to have DEI to promote Kemmy Beidnock as the leader. Otherwise, they would be racist. Being clear, none of us ever wants to see the conservative to get into power again, either in the Conservative Party or in reform, given some the people pushing these lies, are Nadine Dorries, you know, Boris's own cheerleader, who crafted the Online Safety Act and excused the Boris wave and said, when she came into reform,

maybe we should bring Boris in as well. So it doesn't have much standing up. But the last thing I will say is as well, I mean, I have a suspicion where some of these sources come from, they'd be quite a vindictive place. Nevertheless, if your sources genuinely just trust me, bro, it's, I am in possession of a document that you can't read, but I'm going to vaguely summarise, here with implication and suggestive language. And I'm just going to insinuate that Rupert Lowe is a Trojan horse. Meanwhile, I am defending as a surrogate, not an official spokesperson, a party that is full of recycled Tory ministers, then it's not a particularly credible claim. By all means, criticize the shortcomings of Restore Britain. I think there are some,

and I've been vocal with the lads about it, and vocal in public. But creating this weird sort of stringed-up schizo theory like your Charlie Day from It's Always Sunny isn't very edifying. Well, indeed, and let's see the document because my reading between the lines for this, Connor, is there probably is a Dougie Smith document about how to get the Conservative Party back into power. Like, that's not a surprise, is it? Of course they're going to try. But given that Rupert Lowe and Nigel Farage don't really feature in this document, I think it's ludicrous to claim that in some way Rupert Lowe is part of this SIOP, because let's be honest, Rupert Lowe wants to be Prime Minister.

Right? So if the document was saying actually Restore Britain is going to merge with the Conservative Party and as part of that merge Rupert Lowe would take over as leader and say Kemi Badov would become deputy or something like that, then maybe I'd take it a bit more seriously. But it doesn't even say that. The document doesn't even say that. And I had Rupert Lowe here and I'm the only person who's asked him about this, you know, on a public platform, and he specifically denied it, specifically denied wanting to put the Tories

in party, said Tharra busted flush, specifically denied daily conversations with Kemi Bainan. Put that out there, and then people say, oh, well, of course he'd say that anyway. So actually, Connor, you know, I don't like using the term conspiracy theorists, because I usually think conspiracy theorists are right, and conspiracy theories usually do come true in the modern world. So I'll just say, Reform UK just seem to be spreading lies about this from what I. I can see. There's certainly no evidence I've seen to back up these claims. Yeah, I agree, Dan. You don't need to use the term conspiracy theory. It's just lies.

And I've seen people that I otherwise respect that do good work spreading these lies as well. And even though I've pointed them out to them privately, they've continued to do it, which doesn't reflect well on them. A few points, if I may. First of all, when Alex was spreading that research document says, oh, Rupert Lowe's been boosted by bots. And bear in mind, Dan, I hope I'm not lifting the curtain here. We've been at dinners with Alex last year, early last year, around the time that Rupert was ejected from the party, or there were tensions between him and I view her as a friend. I really do. Yeah, well, I did.

And I bear her new ill will, but I think this isn't very becoming behaviour. But back then, early last year, she was telling both of us, no, trust me, I used to work with Cambridge Analytica and I know people, and they've run analysis on this, and it's all Indian bots. And I always at the time said, okay, Alex, show me the evidence, so I don't think that's the case. And now that she's come with all these bots, as Carl Benjamin did some digging, there's an excellent video on the Lotus Cetus Daily Channel. daily channel, if you just go through the post history of the accounts they cite, these are just normal British people posting about the football and Enoch Powell and the fact they dislike Zia Yusuf. You know who else disliked Zia Yusuf, by the way? Alex Phillips, who purposefully brought me on her talk show to celebrate the fact that I think it was this year ago today.

Zia Yusuf resigned as party chairman because Sarah Pochin said she wanted to ban the burqa and then he came back two days later and a half, but she found it very funny when I said he was David Cameron of Diversity Body Armor. The irony being now Zia Yus is probably the most politically astute member of reform, realizing that reform and restores base are permeable barri. Can we trust him, Connor? Can we trust him, or is he practicing Tequia? Well, I don't think he's practicing Tekeyeh, because I don't think he's that observant of Muslim.

I think he is just a striver who will say anything to get in power and be liked. The other comment I'll make as well, the document about Dougie Smith, perfectly plausible. You know, he's a Machiavellian dark arts dealer. He is nicknamed the Wolf from Pulp Fiction after all. But I would like to point out that Dougie Smith's wife is Manera Merza. woman who runs civic future, who trains up future civil servants and has her tendrils in all sorts of different places like Spiked and the Battle of Ideas and the Conservative Party, but also, and I have it from some good sources, Minera-Murza was recently meeting with the senior figures of reform to provide them with people to hire as prospective civil servants after Danny Kruger's plans go through.

So this is all smoke and mirrors because, sorry, but Alex's beloved reform is actively working with the wife of Dougie Smith to staff the civil service. I wouldn't want that woman anywhere near me because she helped coup Kirstarmer into power. She helped make Kenny Baynox's career and she just got done working for Kier Starmor in number 10. Breaking right now, a major civil war has broken out at the BBC Newsnight show

with former presenter and a legend of that program, Kirsty Walk, you'll all know her, Scottish star of the BBC for decades, making a bullying complaint against Victoria Derbyshire, who is now the lead star presenter of the program. This extraordinary feud has been going on for months but has just gone public thanks to report in the Times that reveals Victoria has been reprimanded by the BBC over these bullying claims. They write, Victoria Derbyshire has received a reprimand from BBC. bosses after an investigation over bullying allegations at Newsnight. The BBC's support at work team

launched an investigation into the BBC 2 program in October. We're only learning about this now. Senior staff reviewed allegations of unprofessional behaviour that sources said presenters, editors and producers had either been subjected to or witnessed. By profile figures, including the former Chief Content Officer Charlotte Moore and the former Newsnight presenter, Kirstie walk are among those who have raised concerns on behalf of more junior staff about Derbyshire's behaviour during their time at the BBC. Multiple claims were made against Derbyshire but were not upheld. It is understood Darbyshire denied all the allegations, but it is understood that bosses took steps to reprimand her over her behaviour. Commenting on the outcome of the investigation,

one senior individual with knowledge of the process said the line has now been drawn, it has all been dealt with. Another individual claim, that it had been handled robustly, adding it was more than a shot across the bowels. However, one ally said that Derbyshire is a highly regarded journalist with exacting standards who is operating under pressure in a stressful newsroom environment. They said she is direct, but she does a fantastic job and is a really important part of Newsnight. The broadcaster said, while we do not comment on individual cases, we take all complaints about conduct at work extremely seriously and will not tolerate behaviour

that is not in line with our values. Now, look, I want to break this down a little bit. Firstly, I've known Victoria Darbyshire for years. I worked with her years and years ago at ITV. We were friendly for a period of time, but I haven't spoken to her since I was at GB News. So I just always like to be honest about the fact that I know some of these people who are involved in these situations. Now, she is a tough woman. She is exacting in terms of her standards. She is also someone who will work very closely and remote stuff who do a good job for her. So I do think there probably is an element of snowflakey about this at the BBC, an element of a civil war about this. Kirstie Wart won't have liked the fact that Victoria Derbyshire took the role that probably she coveted. At the same time, what I despise about this is the cover-up. Another cover-up. This happened in October. We deserve to know about it. Because remember, this is Victoria Darbyshire who is going on air night after night, trying to hold people to account for bullying, reporting on Hugh Edwards, reporting about Scott Mills,

and yet she has been subjected to one of these investigations. Now, I also think Victoria Derbyshire holds others to a high standard. You probably remember her interviewing Carl Benjamin, now of Lotus Eaters, back in 2019, over her joke aimed at Jess Phillips, which I of course do point out he has apologised for multiple times since. Why did you decide to choose rape when talking about Jeff Phillips? It's very important because you've been lying about me and I've been attacked in the street because of your lies. So this is genuinely important.

I've never lied about you and you're here today. A lie by omission is still a lie. And in your last segment about me with Jess Phillips, you did not mention that this was a comedy video. Talk us through that thought process. Why rape? It's a joke at your expense. You could have chosen any number of things.

I did. And if you could describe the video, it was a four-minute bloominious video of comedy. A feminist approach, but you chose rape, and I'm really interested to find out why. It's honestly part of a long meta-joke about the way that the media is bullying Jess Phillips with jokes I made that she never saw. Why rape, though? What kind of an individual makes light of sexual violence and attaches a woman's name to it? Have you been raped? I've been sexually assaulted.

Is that the first time you've... Do you usually ask people if they've been raped? Do you find that an appropriate question? So Conor Thomas, this is the issue I have here. Okay? Victoria Derbyshire is all about those types of interviews, right? That the sort of confessional gotcha. And I feel like we do need to know about this

and Victoria Derbyshire now needs to be grilled about this. That's not to say that I am coming here saying she's guilty, saying that she's a bully. I imagine there are a lot of woke snowflakes at Newsnight, right, who can't deal with an experienced tough journalist like her. But Kay Adams lost her job at BBC Scotland over claims of bullying years and years ago, claims that she threw a pen, you know, in a fit of peak years ago. And I just think there needs to be more public examination of this, given the BBC, are so keen to hold people like Carl Benjamin to account. Yes, Dan. I mean, first of all, I'm terrified that you jump, scare me with fat Carl. He really has

gotten a lot better since that interview. I'll be sure to compliment him next time I see him. Nevertheless, he's on the key, isn't he? I think. Where he was. Yeah, we started going to the gym, so good man. I do find Victoria Darbashir's interview style egregious, because there are just so many examples of this. The recent struggle session, she actually puts Zia Yusufr, regarding the repeal of the Equality Act, where he couldn't get a word in Edgewise. It almost made he feel sorry for him, despite me not trusting him. She's, there's just countless examples, that the sympathy procession that she gave to Jess Phillips back at the height of the rape gang conversation in early last year when Jess Phillips decided to play the victim and say, oh, Elon Musk has said

some mean things about me. So suddenly the story is all about me, because she is a delusion. or narcissist, her attempt to attack Cole for that. I mean, there's just so many examples of Victoria Dabashire being deeply unpleasant and disingenuous, and using the license-fee-funded broadcaster as her own political soapbox. And so I don't have much sympathy for her potentially being subject to a struggle session for the institutional culture that she has helped create. Because if you generate a culture where, um, women can manipulate public sympathy by claiming victimhood, regardless of their own personal actions, like Jess Phillips. If you create a culture that says that marginalized people are by definition

oppressed because we have defined them to be marginalized, and we must believe their testimonies, their lived experience, and so the targets of their complaints are guilty on the face of it, and so must lose their livelihoods to a cancellation effort. If you have participated in that culture, and you find yourself on the wrong end of that revolution, don't come crying to me for sympathy. Exactly, that's the point, isn't it? And at the end of the day, the BBC is facing a real reckoning here because of the standards that it has claimed to hold others to.

When let's just be honest about this, Connor, it does sometimes feel like to be a high-profile presenter at the BBC, you have to meet one of two qualifications. Pido or bully. Yeah, I don't think they put that on the DBS check, Dan. Nevertheless, you're not wrong. I mean, Hugh Edwards, Jimmy Saville, just keep going down the list, I suppose.

And again, we don't know the truth fully about that yet, and the mainstream media just seemed to have been, oh, we can just, you know, we can just walk, like, is Scott Mills a Pito or not? Like, let's not ask any questions. Yeah, yeah, very strange. My favourite sort of come up on Victoria Darbashir, though, would not necessarily be this witch trial.

Again, I don't have much sympathy for it. But it was actually, I don't know if you can cast your mind back to the farmers' protests in November of 2024. Some people may have been reminded of this because Clarkson's Farm Season 5 has just come out, and I'm in the middle of watching it. And I was surprised they didn't actually include this clip in the Amazon show, but I suppose BBC had the copyright to the footage of Victoria Darbyshire being well and truly panced by Clarkson.

But she came up to Clarkson and decided to say, well, you're not really a farmer. What are you doing at here? You know, stirring up tensions. Why are you attacking the government? How else do you expect the government to pay for the NHS and battery farming, Somalians and social housing in the heart of Westminster? If not, destroying British farming and take away family farms, which, by the way, would earn less revenue in a couple of years than they spend on subsidising tea farming in Rwanda in a single year. And Clarkson just said to her, right, typical BBC. Typical BBC, this.

You take the government line. You don't scrutinize power. You're protecting your own jobs, and you are ultimately doing the public a disservice. And so my suggestion for funding, any government program, of which there are too many, is to go to that building over there, go to Whitehall, ask every single person, what do you do for a job? And if they can't sum it up in two sentences that makes sense to you, sack them immediately and save the taxpayer the pennies. I would just add an additional addendum to that, if I may, Dan.

I'm not necessarily saying we should abolish the BBC. I do think a subscription service probably would be better, but I do think it is nice to have a reputable broadcaster. But what I think is we should take the same approach. We should go into the BBC and go, all right, whose show doesn't get ratings? Who is routinely dishonest? Who is just a diversity czar peddling an anti-white,

anti-British political agenda that is ultimately emiserating our country and misinforming the public? All right, you, you, you and you can sling your hook, and we'll save that money for the licence fee payer, the subscription fee payer in the future, and make some decent programming and some actually nourishing news again. But kind of the problem is this is so, so an organisation just infected by deep, deep bias. I mean, if you think about that decision on question time, right, to exclude Restore Britain.

Indeed, actually, just before I get you to respond to that, Rebecca, who is Rebecca Shepard, who is the candidate in Makerfield for Restore Britain, has also spoken out on this now. So I just want to play you this and then I'll get your reaction. Hi everyone, it's Rebecca here. I'm just wanting to make a quick video to say how disappointed and disappointed that I have not been invited to do you at the BBC question time along with the other candidates. We're in this to win this. And to be excluded is just another example of the establishment excluding Rupert out of important things like this. And, you know, it goes to show that he's telling the truth about the BBC. And another reason why the BBC TV licence is.

shouldn't should be scrapped. Now, Conner, like, I completely understand the Carl Benjamin argument, right, which is that in some ways it benefits Restore Britain not to be part of that total shit show with Fiona Bruce on question time. I understand that argument, but it does show how totally crooked and corrupt this organisation is. I mean, if you look at the polling, the fact that Restore is so far ahead of the Greens, the Lib Dems, and the Conservatives who all had a seat during this debate, Connor. And if you also think about the fact that, as Dan Hodges put it, I talked about this on the show yesterday.

Imagine the BBC deciding that George Galloway would have been excluded from the by-election coverage in Rochdale, for example. You know, it's, I just think now beyond being saved. Yeah, I think it does a disservice to the BBC's viewers if they were looking to question time to get informed, in which case I think they would actually be better informed just watching the Harry and Paul's sketch taking the piss out of question time, to be honest, because it's mostly a waste of time rather than question time. Though I do agree with Carl here, and you know what, Dan,

because you've asked me and I'm compelled to answer every question, honestly, I'm going to answer honestly and I'm going to get myself in trouble. I think it's actually the benefit of... Well, there you go. I have this policy of where I don't offer up incriminating information unless I'm asked on the spot.

I do think that Carl is correct to the benefit of Restore Britain to not have appeared, because Restore Britain itself has some very strong personnel in Rupert, Charlie, Harrier. Harrison, Lewis. It has some not so strong personnel who have made some pretty poor decisions. And I think one of those decisions was actually selecting Rebecca as a candidate.

She's not very rhetorically sharp. She hasn't shown up that well in interviews. She did a very polished video, I think it was produced by Lewis actually, talking about women and girl safety, and that was much stronger messaging. But if she is talking that way as she did in that video with ums and ours and not much depth on the doorstep, step, then the canvassing figures might be pretty strong because of all the canvases that have been sent down there, because people have a voting confidence in Rupert because he kept his promise about the rape gang inquiry and there's strong policy. But I think that actually what might have been a by-election that Restore had quite high chance of contesting and winning,

given the demographics and giving the discontent in the area of Andy Burnham, they could have done it with a better candidate, and I don't think they're going to come within the chance of winning now. And I also don't think after that question time performance, unfortunately, it seems like a nice guy, but I don't think Rob Kenyon is a hope of winning either. I think Burnham's just going to walk away with it. Yeah, I think you're probably right about that. In terms of Rebecca Shepard herself, I don't think we've seen enough of her. I mean, I'm desperate for her to be here, want to have a conversation with her. I just think we need to know her more. I felt so sorry for Robert Kenyon, actually, during the question time appearance, because to me, it looked like someone who was overthinking, who was overtrained, who was so. concerned about being cancelled. It's like, I just wanted to see him. But I really do like him, and I really do like her, actually. I understand what you mean about the fact that they're not polished performance, but I mean, that Green Party woman who, you know, claims to just be a mother, she was a polished media performance. But my God, she was a ghastly, ghastly, horrible individual.

Horrible, horrible woman. And Robert Kenyon actually, in my view, came across as a really nice man. I think Rebecca Shepard always comes across as a really nice woman. So I still would have liked to have seen her on there. Breaking today, the new explosive talk TV feud between former close friends and former stars of the channel, Mike Graham and Julia Hartley Brewer, has just exploded live on air. Now, I've got the inside story into what is going on here, but let me take you through it. So Mike Graham posted on X. The real plank of the week is out tomorrow.

night at 7pm. You don't have to be afraid to answer any questions about it on the Mike Graham show. Maybe we'll nominate Julia Hartley Brewer. And this is indicative of the growing row, public row, between the two of them, after Mike Graham posted a video actually that we broadcast here on outspoken about Julia Hartley-Bruhe getting Lucy Connolly very wrong and said, oh dear, Julia Hartley Brewer admits she's not a very good journalist. Now that was pretty cutting and Julia wasn't taking it lying down, responding to Mike, oh dear, have you sobered up after a months long bender? Or has your account been hacked again, hacked being put in quotation marks, which suggests that she does not believe Mike's argument that he didn't actually post

that Facebook message which got him the boot from Talk TV. Then you come to the issue of Plank of the Week itself. And Plank of the Week used to unquestionably be the biggest hit on Talk TV. And I've just dug into some of the YouTube figures on this to show you. So look at this week's Plank of the Week. Now, I will explain the fact that Kevin O'Sullivan, the usual host, is a way. But when I looked at it only had 8,500 views. recent episodes of Plank of the Week, hosted by Kevin O'Sullivan, you'll see they're still pretty low,

really, given that this was the flagship show. And if you look at what it used to receive, now these were in the days just before Mike Graham was sacked, some weeks well over 300,000 views, which made it by far Talk TV's most popular show. So when I caller, and my God, this is why I love Talk TV, the best thing about being on Talk Radio, I was a host there previously was the callers because the callers are amazing. And of course, there is a producer who screens the callers beforehand. But at the end of the day, if a caller comes on and wants to have a discussion, it's very, very difficult to stop them. And when this particular caller raised Plank of the Week and this ongoing row, because I should explain, by the way, just in case

you don't know, Mike has kept Plank of the Week going. So it means you've got the Mike Graham version of Plank of the Week, the Talk version of Plank of the Week, but both released, at a similar time on a Thursday or Friday. And I've appeared on Plank of the Week, the Mike Graham version, because I think it is the original show. I think talk radio should have just stopped. News UK should have just stopped. They should have effectively said, look, it's your show.

I mean, it's pathetic, right? G.B. News did the same thing to me. They still run Greatest Britain Union Jackass with Patrick Christie's. He didn't even want to do it. The chief executive was like, we've got to do it because I don't want it to be Dan Witten's thing. It's silly. It's silly.

It's silly. Patrick doesn't care about it. that he didn't come up with it. It's silly. Plank of the Week should just be allowed to be Mike Graham's show. Anyway, this caller raised it and you will see, I mean, I know Julia, she was mad. Just a quick one. Are you releasing Plank of the Week again at all? No idea. No idea. Not above Kevin yesterday. It's above my... Jason, it's above my... Kevin's on holiday at the moment. He's above my pay grave, mate. I don't know. Jason, thank you very much.

Now the reason why there is this sort of growing tension again between Mike Graham and Julia Hartley-Bruer, who I can reveal were very close friends but have now had a monumental falling out, is because Mike is now intending to take on Talk TV and GB News more directly. He is intending to launch a new channel called UK Live. And it is believed that it will feature former Talk TV, hosts like Russell Quirk, who is now not someone who appears on talk, but will be filling in for Mike Graham on his own show next week. But things definitely like sort of kicking off at the moment between Mike and others. I had a bit of a row with him about Restore Britain the other day,

but I will say I'm friends with Mike. And what I like about Mike is that we can have professional rows. We take a very different position on the whole reform versus restore thing. We can slag each other off a bit, but I still want him to succeed. I still like his show. I still believe in what he's doing in the independent media. But he's having a new row now between himself and Dan Hodges. So he posted, or Dan Hodges posted, one thing to keep an eye on, Zee Yusuf has a lot of enemies inside reform. If, as seems increasingly likely they lose in Makerfield, people will be looking for a scapegoat and it won't be Nigel Farage. Now, Mike replied, I groomed Dan in order to make him hate Stama, who he used to.

love. Now without my guidance, he's flailing around, looking to hang his hat on something. He's clearly confused and uncertain about the future, sad to see. Now, Dan Hodges wasn't having that, so they had a bit of a back and forth where Mike said, Dan, I asked you to come on my show at a party in January. I invited you to meet me for a drink. You agreed. I exchanged private Dees with you on Twitter and you promised to come on the show. What's weird as how you were now apparently making out that we've never spoken about it? Why not just come on and stop being such a Pratt. Dan Hodges said, okay, this is getting a bit odd now, Mike. If you want people to go on your show, invite them properly, don't try and publicly bully and badger them into a pairing. And above all,

don't go around making weird comments about grooming people. Then Roslyn the broadster said, Mike is desperate. His podcast is not going as well as he thought it would. You were getting lots of attention in the media. He's hoping you come on his show will save it. He's acting like Zia Yusuf. desperate. Mike responded insisting that the show is a success, saying close to 25 million views, 165,000 subscribers and launching a new TV channel. Not going well. And when Nikki B asked about the new channel, Mike confirmed it's going to be called UK Live Online. So Conner Tomlinson, who is of course an independent media star in its own right behind the brilliant YouTube channel and substack Tomlinson talks,

I always knew this fallout was inevitable, right? I knew it was inevitable, because even if you try and maintain personal friendships with a broadcaster that has treated you so appallingly, I know from personal experience, Connor, in the end it all falls apart because the people who work for the broadcaster are fundamentally going to be on the side of the broadcaster.

Julia Hartley-Bruer is not happy with the fact that Mike Graham keeps attacking Talk TV and Talk TV's figures because she wants to keep her job on Talk TV. So I always knew that there would end up being this fallout because it is inevitable, sorry, I think it is undeniable that the launch of Mike Graham's morning show has been really difficult for talk, which was already struggling. He completely thrashes Jeremy Kyle. who now hosts the show on YouTube at least. And clearly that's not good for the station. Now he's promising this new UK life.

I mean, Connor, I'm not going to lie, it sounds very ambitious for me. And, you know, as someone who's done this for a while now, my advice to Mike would just be like, be careful, don't try and run before you can walk. But it's ambitious, isn't it? And clearly they're nervous about it, I would say, talk because talk is struggling. It is struggling a lot. It's not like Gb News, which is thriving

on TV. Talk came off TV and said we're going to put everything into YouTube. And the YouTube numbers for a big Rupert Murdoch broadcaster are pretty bad. I was going to say, Dan, I don't think talk could say in the last year that they've generated 25 million views, or they certainly haven't generated that level of views relative to the amount of production cost. Exactly. that's the point. Because in the last year I've had something like 10 million and I do everything myself except I get someone else to do my thumbnails for me. That's the only other overhead cost that I've got. And I am nowhere nearly as successful as Mike has been from hitting the ground running because he had an existing audience and he's got a production team and a very swanky set.

So, you know, well done to it. Including there's a pretty big market out there for an authentic plank of the week. As far as the beef between presenters goes, so look, I haven't been on talking quite some time ever since. I think it was Ian Hizlop and Private Eye rang around the stations to try and get me cancelled. Very pathetic. Though I did end up, weirdly, I ended up on GV News, at 1am last night. I think Ben Leo snuck me back on, passed off cons. Did you?

Yeah, I can't wait for, I can't wait for him to get a wrap on the knuckles from that one. But I did notice they didn't clip it as well, so that was quite conspicuous. Nevertheless, I do think what might happen here, and I have no working relationship with these stations, so this is purely speculative. What might happen here is, as has happened with Mike before, because he is a weapons-grade wind-up merchant. He probably decided to be on the piss and then take the piss out of Judea. They'd probably fallen out. And I don't doubt that by Christmas we'll see them with their arms around each other in a pub having a drink again.

But I do think this is the nature of media, thus alternative media, Dan, where if you have a boss breathing down your neck and your position is seen to be precarious and based on whether or not you engage in disavowals or distancing yourself from people who have been rendered by a pariah by that station, even if you enjoy their kind of. even if you say that you think they say the right thing, lots of people will in order to keep the job that pays the mortgage, just keep a healthy distance from them or not say anything when they bring their name up and pitch meetings and it gets shut down. Again, I've spoken to, you know, GB News hosts who have said, oh, they want me back on the show or they want to use my posts or my work in segments. And they've been told, well, you can't. You're not allowed. And they've said, well, sorry, mate. I've had to do it to keep the job. And I'm understanding.

So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that's the case here. 100%. 100% Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if they'll be hugging again. I'm not sure. Maybe, but I'm told that there was quite a heated confrontation at a tube station quite recently when they bumped into each other.

So maybe not. God, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at that moment. Because you know, Julia, she's not someone who holds back. But Connor Tomlinson, of course we can subscribe to your show in the independent media by looking for Tomlinson talks on both YouTube and Substack. So great to have you here today, Connor, thank you so much. But we're now going to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. This is when we put your Union Jackass winners from across the week, head to head.

On Monday, it was Bonnie Blue. On Tuesday, it was Carol Vorderman. On Wednesday, it was slippery Starmer. And on Thursday, it was James O'Brien. To your feedback, Johnny XSV2O says, it's sad that Bonnie Blue is the most genuine out of the list. Oh my God, that made me laugh. And that's not me, M-R-B-Y, said,

never thought I would say Bonnie Blue was the best option. This country is totally in the mud. Trey Tracy says the plank for all of them. On second thoughts, maybe not Carol, there is enough plastic in the ocean already. Mark Bowman, 3292, said James O'Brien is more interested in the so-called far-right response to Henry Novak's death than the reasons or causes for it.

Smita Motra 5726 said James O'Brien is legitimately worse than Stama. Stama has power, of course, but O'Brien, he doesn't just lack morals. He actively opposes morality at every opportunity. Two out of every hundred things Stama says makes sense. For O'Brien, it's zero, actually zero. Glen O'4-9 says it was really difficult. Then I remembered all the others, at least screw you over by consent, i.e. you have to choose to listen to them.

Stama is thrust upon me, whatever possible. a horrible choice of words. Sutter Kane says Kirstama takes the crown after his disgusting exploitation of that family outside 10 Downing Street. And Dan the man inferno says pregnant Monty Blue wants to hold a golden baby shower. But yes, Kirstama wins again. I have to say, I haven't looked at the results for a while, but I think he's probably right. Let me get to them. In fourth position with 3% of the vote, this really does show you how far and away. This was a one-way street this week. In fourth position with 3% of the vote, Carol Vorderman.

In third position with 8% of the vote, Bonnie Blue. The runner-up with 11% of the vote, James O'Brien. But according to nearly 80,000 of you, the worst Britain in the world this week with 70. 58% of the vote is slippery stummer. Now we're moving across to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled After Show. I'm teaming up with Paula Frollic uncensored because there's a big feud ahead of tomorrow's royal wedding. Let's get over there at www.outspoken.live.

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