Dan Wootton Outspoken - HISTORY AS NIGEL FARAGE'S REFORM UK REPLACES KEMI'S TORIES AS LABOUR'S RACHEL REEVES TANKS

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Civil war, what civil war? Scandals ain’t stopping Nigel Farage’s march, as the first major poll since the election shows Reform UK replacing the Tories and in a virtual dead heat with Labour, as Rachel Reeves plunges the government into further crisis. So does this mean the UK’s uniparty system is finally about to be smashed? Or is Kemi on the comeback? Dan delivers his verdict in the Digest and this his Superstar Panel weigh in – Jack Ross of Turning Point UK and the conservative social media influencer Based and Bougie. PLUS: Has Piers Morgan finally worked out he has got it wrong on Tommy Robinson? AND: Is the MSM really finished, as Global, the left-wing owner of the Fake News Agent and LBC, flops? THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Did Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s LA disaster tourism break Californian law? And Catherine returns to public duties at the hospital where she received her cancer treatment. Our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin returns. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day:    / @danwoottonoutspoken   ---------- Today’s Sponsors: SURFSHARK - Go to https://surfshark.com/outspoken for an extra four months of Surfshark at an unbeatable price VERSO - https://buy.ver.so/outspoken - Use code OUTSPOKEN to save 15% on your first order. MANSCAPED - https://manscaped.com – get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken. ---------- Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltone... ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?... Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook:   / danwootton   Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/... #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 139. Click and subscribe, please, because we are an important new independent news source. Then you'll get alerted to our new live shows, uncancelled interviews and special royal episodes if you turn on the notification bell. Breaking right now. In the last hour, Slippery Starmer's government has been plunged into further chaos. You couldn't make this up, folks. His closest ally, there she is, the anti-corruption minister, Tulip Sadiq, has bowed to pressure to resign after, wait for it, her own corruption scandal. And surely Rachel Frommer counts as next.

Remember, this is the government that promised to clean up politics. And here we are, six months in. Meanwhile, civil war? What civil war? Scandals ain't stopping Nigel Farage's march as the first major poll since the election shows Reform UK replacing the Tories and in a virtual dead heat with Labour. So does this mean the UK's uniparty system is finally about to be smashed or is Kemi on the comeback trail? You know, people, very, very poor sort of peasant background, very, very rural, almost cut off from even the home origin countries that they might have been in. They're not necessarily first generation. The jobs that they were doing, taxi drivers jobs,

which allowed them to exhibit this predatory behavior. All the latest on a disastrous 24 hours for slippery Starmer as his moral authority slips away in my digest next. And then my superstar panel weigh in. Today, I'm joined by Jack Ross of Turning Point UK and the conservative social media influencer Based and Bougie. Also coming up on the show today, controversy as Arch Ramona Charlie Mullins runs for Reform UK. Has Piers Morgan finally worked out that he got it wrong on Tommy Robinson? And is the MSM finally finished as Global, the left-wing owner of the fake news agent and LBC, flops? Then, in the uncancelled aftershow, more major breaking news this past hour.

This one, I have to tell you, is a delight to share. Catherine, the Princess of Wales, has just announced that she is in remission from cancer. She made the revelation after a visit to the hospital where she revealed she was treated. So we're going to have all of the latest on this incredible moment. Meanwhile, though, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's LA disaster tourism may have broken Californian law. Goodness me. Our Royal Mastermind, Angela Levin, returns. And remember, the Uncancelled After Show is now broadcast exclusively daily and on demand on my sub stack, www.outspoken.live is the address. This is an episode you do not want to miss,

so you can subscribe by entering your email address and receive a monthly paid membership. Then you'll get access to the after show every single day, as well as my exclusive reporting and columns access to our live chats on the Substack app and the chance to join a thriving community. This is a safe space free of censorship. It's also completely free though, by the way, if that is all you can afford. The most important thing is that you are part of our Outspoken family. So www.outspoken.live, enter your email address. And the most important thing is then we keep up our connection, no matter which platform I happen to be cancelled from. But now, let's go. Are we witnessing political history being made? I predicted last June, the day he announced he was running for Clacton, that Nigel Farage would become the Prime Minister of the UK by 2029. Now that call was anchored in a fundamental belief that the Uni Party and MSM

had lost touch with the true feelings of the British public. And the first major YouGov poll of voting intention since last year's election suggests I was right. Our two-party system is no longer fit for purpose. Just look at this. Labour, effectively pummeled by reform, now in a statistical get-heat to be considered Britain's most popular party. Perhaps most damning for Starmer, though. Only 10% of Brits say his government is successful. The Conservatives drop to third place, making it possible for Farage to now claim he is the moral opposition. And sure enough, within minutes,

he had quickly made that point. Posting on X, Reform UK are just one point behind Labour and YouGov's first poll since the general election. The Tory brand is completely broken. We are the real opposition to this disastrous government. And the Conservatives have been deserted by youngsters. This is critical in favour of reform, with the party's chairman, Zia Youssef, writing, further proof the Tories are headed for extinction. The only question is how quickly. Their support among Gen Z is almost zero. And then foreshadowing a further Tory civil war, Zia Youssef added, looking at the latest YouGov poll, I'm starting to understand why Robert Jenrick just continued his leadership campaign. But the Kemi Badenot fight back begun on GB News last night as she tried to capitalise on the issue of the Pakistani rape gangs.

The thing that I think is needed is looking at cultural issues. There are two cultural issues which I believe have been identified, two cultural issues. One is on the perpetrator side, where do these abusers come from? The thing that there's a lot of misinformation. There's a lot of generalization. Many innocent people end up being grouped in with them. But if you look at it, there is a systematic pattern of behavior, not even just from one country, but from sub communities within those countries, people with a particular background, particular class background, work background. What background is that? People, very, very poor sort of pe particular background, particular class background, work background. What background is that?

People, very, very poor sort of peasant background, very, very rural, almost cut off from even the home origin countries that they might have been in. They're not necessarily first generation. The jobs that they were doing, taxi drivers' jobs, which allowed them to exhibit this predatory behaviour. As usual, though, her message was not as clear as reforms. On a whole load of issues, take Mr Youssef here on immigration. Despite spending £54 billion a year on defence,

the number of military-age males that has entered the United Kingdom illegally via small boats now exceeds the total available soldiers to the British Army. Or Mr Farage going head to head with the biased Beeb over this government's attempts to literally cancel elections. My study of history tells me that only dictators cancel elections. All right. And I think what's going on here is wrong at every level. Let's have the elections, and then let's have a public debate about this dog's dinner of a proposal that we're getting from a Labour government.

They didn't even put it fully in their manifesto. You know, the idea that we get rid of district councils, all that does, it leaves our rural areas, our small towns, even more vulnerable to the decisions taken by big towns and big cities. And then over that, we have a mayor, which, frankly, most people don't want. OK, I mean, the thing is, millions do vote for mayors, so that's one fact we have to remember.

And also, elections have been cancelled before, including in the pandemic. So, there you go. The BBC are supporting the cancellation of democratic elections. Wonders never cease. I will tell you, though, it's not going to be a straightforward right for reform and Farage. Firstly, the MSM is out to get them. Daily Mirror reporters are now begging Clacton constituents for horror stories about Farage. There's also an obsession with the fact that he's a successful businessman, making lots of money, something I have absolutely no problem with. Then you've got these deranged attempts to get Nigel in trouble with the parliamentary authorities all the time. Most recently,

the Lib Dems are doing this over his pledge to fundraise to run a rape gang inquiry if Starmer refuses to do so. But perhaps it's the challenges from the right that will become the most significant for Mr Farage. The row over Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk continues, as does Reform's candidate selection, with Ramona businessman Charlie Mullins now being picked. And there's the question of immigration, which Reform UK's Wales spokesman Oliver Lewis claimed to be very positive during this BBC interview at The Weeknd. Watch. Wales has had really very limited levels of immigration. And the immigration we have had, arguably, has been very positive for our economy.

So immigration is much less of a factor in politics in Wales than it is, say, in England. That's a very different tone that I hear from... ..in reform's favour, the total incompetence and corruption of this Labour government. From the file which I would say should be called, you can't make this shit up, the UK's anti-corruption minister, Tulip Sadiq, has just quit in a corruption scandal. Now, this is incredibly significant. This woman was Prime Minister Keir Starmer's closest ally, so his moral authority quite clearly

now slipping away. Next, the underfire Chancellor Rachel Reeves should surely be finished. In the House of Commons today, even the Tories' lacklustre shadow Chancellor Mal Stride was able to completely roast her. The Chancellor flailing estranged, it seems, from those closest to her, those about her falling, the drums beating ever closer. To go or not to go, that is now a question. Felly, mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir.

Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'n dda i ddweud y gwir. Mae'r Prif Weinidog yn dweud y gwir. Mae'rfarwydd wedi bod yn dda. Mae'r Prif Weinidog yn ddim yn wirioneddol. Rwyf wedi bod ar y llaw hwnnw am 14 mlynedd.

Rwy'n credu y byddai'n amlwg, pan fyddwch chi'n cael ystadeg, eich bod yn gofyn rhai cwestiynau. Rydyn ni wedi clywed llawer o ran yr wythnosau cyhoeddus am beth fyddai'n ei wneud, ond rydyn ni wedi clywed dim ond beth fyddaiedd yn ei wneud, ond nid ydym wedi clywed unrhyw beth am yr hyn y byddai'n ei wneud. Gallwch chi weld beth sy'n digwydd pan ddylid y Llywodraeth y cyd-destun yn dweud bod y Cabinet ysgolion ddim ar gael polisïau. O ran fy mod i'n gallu ddweud, mae strategaeth economaidd y Partid Cynulliadol yn dweud nad y ddylai y DU ymgysylltu â'r economi'r Conservative Party's economic strategy is to say that the UK should not engage with the second largest economy in the world. Or indeed with our nearest neighbours and our biggest trading partners in the European Union. Pathetic and absolutely pathetic performance.

Remember, Reeves only received 600 million pounds guaranteed support from China. That is a drop in the ocean. And now two Labour MPs, critically from Rochdale and Rotherham, have abandoned Starmer's bid to cover up the truth about the rape gangs by defying the PM and backing calls for a national inquiry. So all of this chaos and carnage gives me hope that it's too late for the Uni Party. We have had enough. And while Reform UK might not be perfect, and by the way, they must be held to account too, by people like me, so they don't just become the same as the rest of the Westminster cretins. But I think they do remain our best hope for real change. Now, the superstar panel.

And I am delighted today to be joined by Jack Ross, the Chief Operating Officer of Turning Point UK, here on Outspoken for the first time, alongside a returning favourite, the conservative influencer, Based and Bougie. So, Basin Bougie, really interesting poll. This is the first major survey from YouGov since the next election. they are desperate for something new, which is the Reform Party. The Reform Party is our only hope. Gen Z is straying more towards reform parties because Gen Z no longer listens to mainstream media the only thing that's been that's been keeping the Conservative and Labour party you know popular is mainstream media and their support for these two lying um can't keep a promise parties but Gen Z on the other hand for example like myself my form of information has always been Twitter it's always been TikTok I go on TikTok more than I do mainstream media. So I think, you know, the British public and Gen Z, we are desperate for something new and the Conservative Party and the Labour Party have made too many promises that they cannot keep and we just no longer have any trust for them. Jack Ross, where do you stand on this one? I think it's certainly a positive to see a right wing political party making headway.

It's nice to see that Labour is going to be out in 29 by hook or by crook as such. But I do share your concerns with reform that they are trying to appeal to too many people in order to maybe boost their popularity. And I don't think they quite understand what will happen is if they keep moderating and become the Conservative Party 2.0, then they'll lose support from the right as the Conservatives have done before. And right now, it's too important. The whole country's at stake for us to lose that momentum we have at the moment in terms of taking our country back. Yeah, I do worry about that a lot, actually. And this is why I don't buy into the argument that so-called critical friends like me of Reform UK, people who voted for Reform UK, but want them to stay true to right wing conservative values should just shut up. Because I don't think that is the answer. I think it is important that we do call out decisions that look potentially questionable.

And there was another one of these decisions overnight. Now, Charlie Mullins is a very successful British businessman. He launched Pimlico Plumbers to great success, sold it and became a very, very rich man. He's also someone who I personally get on with very, very well. He appeared on my GB News show regularly. He's also appeared here on Outspoken. However, Charlie Mullins has taken some political views which go against everything that I believe Reform UK stood for. So firstly, he is an arch Ramona. As recently as last year, he was boasting that it was a poor excuse of Nigel Farage's claim that the UK is better off out of the EU. That was just last year. And perhaps most concerningly was his position

over the COVID vaccine. And this was something that I was very outspoken about at the time, because Charlie Mullins wanted to actually mandate the COVID vaccine for his staff members. He told City AM, once the vaccine's out there and it becomes private, I'm happy to pay for all our staff to have it. No vaccine, no job. When we go off to Africa and Caribbean countries, we have to have a jab for malaria. We don't think about it. We just do it. So why would we accept something within our country that's going to kill us when we can have a vaccine to stop it? Now, Charlie Mullins has announced overnight, Jack Ross, that he will be standing, that he has been asked by Nigel Farage to stand as a Reform UK candidate. Do you share the concerns of the so-called online right who are saying, oh no,

this again seems to go against reform's core values? Yeah, I think it's key in politics we don't turn supporter political parties into cult-like behavior. So I think at this stage, there's some people in the reform camp, where the MPs could literally march down Downing Street with a Soviet flag, and they'd still say, oh, well, we've got to back reform, we have to think to ourselves, we need to hold reform to account so that they can be the best party that they can be so it can influence our politics for the better. I think like this is a classic example of how they're becoming Tory light. They were meant to drag the Conservatives to the right, but now they seem to be being dragged

to the left by the Conservative Party. And so by bringing people in who are fundamentally opposed to most values on the right, it just seems nonsensical. Who are they trying to appease? Which voters are going to vote for them by doing something like this? They're falling into the trap the Conservative Party made for almost a decade of trying to appease people who will never vote for them, rather than trying to firm up their support and expand their support via Conservative or right-wing principles. Yeah, totally. Because the thing is, we just need to be clear that Reform UK are going to do the same thing as Donald Trump. And actually, once they do secure power, I guess you would say if they do secure power, they're not all of a sudden going to be into the establishment. And look, I'm just looking in my live chat right now,

the Outspoken live chat and Sarah Brewer, this is just a typical example, saying, Dan, please stop Farage bashing. Tommy Robinson is not what reform needs. And Sarah, I'm really glad you made that point because I just want to make it abundantly clear. And surely my digest proved this point that I'm not Farage bashing at all. I've said that I think this guy is going to be the UK Prime Minister in 2029. I was a colleague of this guy. I have supported him for a very, very long time. I was the first person to put him on GB News.

He appeared on my GB News show every single week. I like Nigel Farage a lot. But based on Bougie, I'm still going to keep him honest because what we cannot have happen again is a Boris Johnson situation where he talks the talk when he's not in Downing Street, when he claims to be a great revolutionary and someone who is going to slash the blob and fight for our freedoms and then once he gets into power doesn't do all of those things that he promised? Yeah absolutely I think that this decision that Reform has made to add Charlie into the Reform Party is just another decision that is confusing to the public. Why are you adding someone into the party who did not believe in their Brexit campaign? Why would you add someone into the party that was telling his own employees that if you do not get vaccinated, you cannot work for Pimlico Plumbers. This is someone who, to me, gives me the sniff that he is just here because he can see that reform is growing in popularity and he wants to get into the club before to just profit from it, basically. And I think reform needs to be careful. Going back to what Jack said, I think reform needs to be clear on what they stand for.

It seems as though they are just trying to appease anyone and everyone. And that's not going to help them in the long run. In the long run, what's going to happen is the public is going to lose trust. Now, I do still believe that reform is our only hope. But if they continue to make decisions that goes against the actual ethos, what's going to happen is the public is going to lose support for them by 2029. And they potentially may not even get into Parliament. Power, sorry. Indeed, indeed.

Although the chaos right now makes me think it's almost impossible that Slippery Starmer will survive as leader until 2029 and that the British public are going to put up with this absolute shower of a Labour government. So let's take a look at this. Just broken in the past hour, Tulip Sadiq, the anti-corruption minister, resigning in a corruption scandal. Now, she claims that this independent review confirms that she hasn't breached the ministerial code, but she's gone. She's out. And Jack Ross, what's so significant about this is that Tulip City could not be any closer to Keir Starmer. She was his number one ally. And don't you just feel now, Jack, that his moral authority is slipping away?

Certainly. I think what's happened with Starmer is all the chickens have come home to roost. A lot of the people in the Labour Party aren't good people. We saw it with Ricky Jones, who actually we identified at turning point, the Labour councillor who said he would cut the throats of anyone he deemed far right. You had it with, I forget the name of the Labour MP, but who punched his constituent. And now you have, you know, Tulip Sadiq, the corruption, anti-corruption minister resigning in a corruption scandal. And you have to think, where does Labour find these people? Is this a result of people who've never had a proper job in their life, have only worked in politics, and now are suffering the consequences of that decision as such? Well, indeed, yeah. Mike Amesbury was, of course, the Labour MP who is now facing those

criminal charges. We saw former Labour Minister Ivor Kaplan arrested at the weekend after being caught up in a Facebook paedophile sting. I mean, this is a government and a party where the stench of impropriety and corruption, and I'm sorry, and some people won't like me saying this, paedophilia is everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. And of course, she's not the first minister to go based in bougie either because uh louise haig the transport secretary also forced out in a scandal yeah like you said in a tweet that you made a couple minutes ago i think you literally just cannot make up this shit i feel as though the loser party sorry the labour party they are

basically exposing themselves for being a corrupt party first you have um Jesse Phillips who refused to look into the grooming scandal then you have like you said I believe his name is Ivor Kaplan he was found trying to meet with a minor and he even had sweets in his pockets that's disgusting and now you have this lady she's now um left the Labour Party due to corruption it just seems as though the Labour Party is just picking up people from a crack house to actually add into their party because I cannot make sense of it. And this is exactly why the Reform Party is growing, because say what you want about reform, but they actually have professional people in their party that the public can actually trust. And Labour's moral authority is really just drowning at this point. It is. It is absolutely drowning. Because then we come to the Chancellor, Rachel Reeves.

And look at this revelation from one of the country's top barristers, Stephen Barrett, who posted on X, I am told Starmer would like to sack Reeves, but can't because he only has Miliband and Cooper to replace her. I have no sympathy. Starmer directly took charge of candidate selection. He wanted mouthbreaking non-entities who vote as told. The fact he lacks talent is his fault. And Jack Ross, the problem is, though, this lack of talent when it comes to Rachel from accounts is directly destroying the UK's economy, which, let's be honest, was already on life support. Yeah, it's it's certainly concerning. We were well, we've been told for generations, oh, your culture doesn't matter. It's the economy which matters we can have infinity migrants coming in um we must prioritize the economy it doesn't

matter if we lose our traditions we don't have money for your local cultural festivals but the economy is going well and now they don't have that they finally stripped the last thing in britain which made us a prosperous western nation away and And again, it's often said with Britain anyway, where we're a wealthy city surrounded by a poor country, where all the services are focused in London. If we crash, we will lose what little prestige we have left internationally. There's already a major cost of living crisis. You look at parts of the UK, I hear stories in rural Wales, where children go to school without shoes on, where they live in real poverty. And that's meant to be where we're a successful first world country. What's going to happen now if we go into recession? It's going

to be awful. And it will be the British working class who bear the brunt of this once again. And speaking of Wales, I wanted to show you this extraordinary video in Wales where the Welsh Refugee Council is using 12-year-old girls in advertisements which are meant to entice migrant men to come to the nation. Now, most members of this council are from the Middle East, India, and Pakistan. Isabella Oakeshott, having seen this video, wrote, this is insane on so many levels. The man who initially posted the video is now under police investigation, believe it or not, just like Alison Pearson, just like Bernie Sp spoff forth for a tweet that will go nowhere i'm sure but what on earth are they doing wasting their time and here is the video in question hello and welcome to wales we understand being a refugee isn't easy they go

through so much fleeing your country is difficult but but Wales wants to help you feel welcome. The Welsh Refugee Council is here to help you. You can contact them. I mean, based in Bougie, what are they thinking? I just think that this video is a very racist video. I mean, we already know the mentality of a lot of, sorry, we already know the mentality of a lot of these immigrants particularly muslim asian pakistani immigrants and they already see these young white girls as just prostitutes they see them as slags um i've actually done some research research on the grooming gangs and it's consistent that these men who groom these young girls call them racial slurs like slags and prostitutes and actually told these girls whilst they're in the middle of assaulting them that I am doing this to you because you dress immodestly now for this

person to now get these young white girls get them in short skirts have their hair all done up wearing tight clothing what is that supposed to do it is it's basically exacerbating this idea for these immigrants that these white girls aren't there just to be used and I'm absolutely disgusted by that because they would not have done that with Indian girls. They would not have done that with African girls. But yet they did that with white girls. And I have an extreme problem with that because I truly believe all lives matter. All children should be protected. And I feel like the way they campaigned that, the short skirts, the done up hair, the legs sitting across,

they knew exactly what they was doing when they did that to those poor white girls. And he should be arrested for that. Jack Ross, what did you make of it? It just makes me absolutely furious. It's like they're laughing at us with everything that's happened and come to light about grooming gangs. They're using school children to advertise. Is it an advert for illegal migrants to come? Is this what they're showing?

Look at what you can get when you're here. It's absolutely sick. What about GDPR? What about protection? Who on earth as a parent would sign off on their child doing something like that? It's absolutely bonkers. Bonkers is the word. Bonkers is the word.

Bonkers Britain at the moment under slippery starmer. Breaking right now, Piers Morgan may be changing his position on Tommy Robinson. The uncensored broadcaster for years has been probably the biggest MSM critic of the man who I believe is a political prisoner and is currently rotting behind bars at HMP Woodhill in solitary confinement, believe it or not. I saw the conditions myself when I went to visit him last month and spent three hours talking about the mad situation we're in. Now, Tommy has wanted to be interviewed by Piers for a very, very long time. And Piers, despite sitting down with him on Good Morning Britain in 2016, has pushed back on that idea. But now things are changing. He is coming under a lot of pressure from significant American influences.

And remember, his show is really driven by the American audience. I'll show you a couple of them here. Firstly, Tim Pool from Timcast, who, after appearing on Piers' show, gave this impassioned plea on his own. Watch. It comes back to this. If peers or anybody else wants to insult Tommy, my response is so what? I don't know. I don't care. Explain to me why the one guy that was leading rallies to call out the systemic rape of children was getting locked up and silenced and put in jail. Why weren't you doing it? Why wasn't the UK government doing it? Why weren't the cops doing it? Why was it Tommy Robinson? Oh, he's a con artist. Well, what the freaking do? At least we

had one con artist, according to you, willing to speak up and inform someone like me. So I'll say it again. I like peers. I really do. I've been on a show several times. I look forward to going on again. And maybe he just doesn't understand. Maybe he's wrong.

Maybe it's intentional. I don't know. But don't you get it? This is why I don't believe you. The things they were doing to these children, man. These transcripts that came out. They fill me with a rage I have never experienced. The horrors.

Man, there's so much dirty stuff in this world. And you say Tommy's a con artist. Fine. Whatever. At least I can thank the con artist for letting me know. Because I would not have known about this if it were not for him. Now, Piers has been pretty vocal against Tommy, really turning on Elon Musk's support, saying, It's true the rape gun scandal victims were failed by shocking government police failures and cover up.

It's not true that media, including me, ignored it. We all exposed it. As for Tommy Robinson, I urge you to properly investigate his record, Elon. He's not the hero you think he is. He also, responding to the silenced video, wrote, ironically, Elon watched something that was so riddled with lies, breaching a judge's order not to repeat them, that Robinson is now in prison because of his brazen contempt of court. And I think this position that Piers is taking sums up a lot of the differences, certainly that I feel, between myself and Pears. Pears trusts the establishment. He pushed the COVID jab, of course. He believes what the government tells him. Now, I certainly don't. And I think we've got lots of reason to see that our judicial system, our deep state is completely corrupt in this country and around the world.

And it's often brave foreigners, actually, on Uncensored, who I think speak some truth to peers. A brilliant man, Gad Saad, he's appeared here on Outspoken, certainly did that regarding Tommy. Watch. Christopher Hitchens is, and I think you'll probably agree with this, one of the most eloquent speakers that we will have ever seen, right? He has beautiful British accent. He speaks with a beautiful vocabulary, as does Douglas Murray. So they may say things that are, in terms of their content, absolutely indistinguishable from anything that Tommy Robinson says. But Tommy Robinson's style, his accent, is one that serves as an aesthetic injury to the people who carry the progressive lisp. And therefore, people react

to Tommy Robinson because of his style of delivery. That's true. Of course it's true. Because Douglas Murray and Christopher Hitchens were and still are in Douglas' case saying very, very similar things about Islam. But if you are someone who has relied on the MSM for your understanding of who Tommy Robinson is. I just want to show you this. And this was a video, a surprise video, that Tommy didn't know about that was made upon his last release from prison. Watch. Because I know how upset my children have been.

And they don't know I'm home. My children don't know I'm home. They don't know I've been released. They're going to in a minute. Come here. ac nid ydyn nhw'n gwybod fy mhrofiad. Nid ydyn nhw'n gwybod fy mhrofiad. Byddan nhw'n ei chael yn un munud. Dad! I guess he's got an alarm today. Daddy! He's got an alarm today, baby. Come here.

Come here. Oh, I love you. I'm sorry. You all right? Now, whether you agree with all of his political positions or not, I think this presentation of Tommy as the monster, the worst, most dangerous person in Britain, has been blown apart thanks to the independent media. Let me bring in my superstar panel now. Based and Bougie, the social media influencer on the conservative side of politics. And Jack Ross from Turning Point UK.

Now, Basinbouji, when I was sitting down with Tommy, actually visiting him in prison last month, we spoke about you because I was telling Tommy that I'd had you on the show. And he's obviously been very grateful for your support because I think it does show that a younger generation and non-white people, let's be honest, in the UK also support a lot of what he is doing. It's interesting because Piers, who for so long has been completely opposed to the idea of having Tommy on his Uncensored show, even though he claims it's a platform for free speech and that he platforms people very often who he doesn't agree with uh andrew tate being one example it feels like after the pressure from elon musk he has now changed his mind you

were obviously protesting quite recently outside talk tv uh targeting piers morgan and his coverage of Tommy do you think that Piers is now seeing the light you might say well I have a lot of respect for Piers Morgan but I think Piers Morgan suffers from a disease called stubbornness I think he knows that Tommy Robinson is in the right and he has done nothing wrong but because he spent most of his career basically condemning Tommy Robinson, he knows that he will look like a clown if he finally decides to say, you know what, Tommy Robinson, you are right. But I think the reason why he finally is thinking of having a sit down with Tommy Robinson is because of that pressure from powerful people. I think Piers Morgan is someone who his opinion flows wherever the wind is going. If people are saying Piers Morgan do this or believe in this, he will go and do it. And you also mentioned something where you said

Piers Morgan trusts the establishment. I don't think he trusts the establishment. Sorry, I think he's being paid by the establishment because even the push for the COVID vaccine, even his views on Palestine, it's very clear that somebody's telling him what to say. And it's his job to go out and convince the public. However, with the new rise of just independent journalism and people actually telling the truth about Tommy Robinson, and the truth is he's a very kind, sweet, patient person. I've never felt any racist or bad feeling about him in my life. I've been around racist people and they look down on you. Tommy Robinson, you can see him from far.

Give him a wave and he will come running to you. Very nice man. Because, you know, this rise of independent journalism is exposing the fact that Tommy Robinson isn't this beast. I think that's what's pushing Piers Morgan. I think Piers Morgan, he just wants to keep his platform. Yeah, it is interesting though, Jack Ross, isn't it? Because Piers, who absolutely was a big paid up member of the mainstream media,

and certainly during COVID, you could argue that the MSM hugely benefited from all of the money being pumped into it by the government to spread the message of fear firstly, and then to spread the message of the vaccine and the need for people who were unvaccinated to be locked out of society. And quite a lot of people will never forgive Pears for the position he took on that. However, Pears has now joined the independent media revolution. He has split from Rupert Murdoch and News UK. He is desperate to interview Elon Musk and to become part of his fold. And perhaps that will be a turning point in terms of his coverage of Tommy Robinson. I think so. As you mentioned before, the US is very different to the UK. And that's something we see often as a turning point UK compared to our counterparts, turning point USA, where what they say over there we do agree with a lot of it,

but some of it, you think you could never say that in the UK. And as a result, they are more open to individuals and ideas which would upset the middle class liberal elite in Britain, which makes the U S less understanding and less able to pull the wool over the people's eyes when it comes to people like Tommy Robinson because when they say oh you can't can't watch him you can't listen to him he's done xyz they look at it and they kind of scratch below it where I think as you say we're more open to being hoodwinked by the media to

believe sort of little little clips and be told oh you can't say this you can't say that you're racist you're this you're that i think tommy robinson is an interesting individual because obviously he has been locked up at the moment because he broke a crime and a lot of people i'm sorry because he broke the law he did a crime but what a lot of the media class aren't discussing is actually the unfairness and extremeness of the sentence he received received something which is quite minor that most people don't go to prison for well it's a civil matter as well it's a civil civil matter not a criminal matter and it's astonishing if you're american to think that you can go to prison for a piece of journalism

because they have something called the First Amendment, which, my God, we need in this country. I think the frustrating thing as well is he received the order not to release the documentary supposedly because of libel, but libel, again, is a two-tier entity in Britain. How many slurs have been sort of printed about you dan how many about me maybe not so much about you sentish but you know i've been called all sorts not yet she's got that coming yeah it's already started it's already started

we've no one would ever get a court order we'd never receive compensation for something like libel on the right but when it comes to people on the left or trendy causes, the courts are all over them. Absolutely. Absolutely. But the thing is, for me, the Tommy Robinson issue is about bravery. And it's about who you can trust. Because I know for a fact, there are a lot of presenters on GB News who deep down in their soul know that they should be speaking out to support Tommy Robinson, but they don't because they want to take the paycheck. And actually, I want to compare and contrastators who still works within the mainstream media. And I think you'll get a sense of what I'm saying here. Tommy Robinson is a man from a working-class background in Luton.

There are many things to be said in favour of him and what he's done. There's many things to be said criticising some of his tactics and some of his words and much more. But essentially, he is one of a quite large number, actually, not to be underestimated a large number of working class people in this country who saw this happen to relatives of theirs who had girls in their families who were drugged and raped by Muslim gangs and when they went to the police they didn't get any help when they went to the council they didn't get any help when they went

to their MPs generally they didn't get any help. When they went to their MPs, generally they didn't get any help. If they organised a protest movement, so-called anti-fascist groups would immediately say, are far right, because of course, if you're working class in our country, and you don't like the mass rape of young white girls, you're of course, necessarily, must be a Nazi. All of this was done to make it utterly impossible for anybody to discuss this, and particularly to crack down as hard as possible on anyone who was white and working class and felt voiceless. And instead of giving these people any sympathy or any hearing, most of the media, most of the political class turned away. The appointment of Tommy Robinson in this loose role as advisor on grooming gangs. turned away. not this subtle level of racism that's been levelled at UKIP in the past. I think you could argue that this is now much more overt. So based on Bougie, I would argue that Douglas Murray has it right.

Patrick Christie's has it wrong. Listen, I feel that history will be the judge of who is the hero and who is the villain. And it's very clear that Tommy Robinson will go down as the hero. This is someone who put his life on the line, his business on the line, his marriage on the line, even his relationship and time with his children on the line.

That is somebody that when we look at this time in history in Britain, will go down as the hero because of that sacrifice that he's made. And when you compare it to someone, this presenter who decided to kind of bash Tommy Robinson and also someone like also someone like niger faraj i mean although i support niger faraj and the reform party i'm still quite shocked to how niger faraj is refusing to give us information on the south port situation even though he's one of the most powerful man in the uk

he has powerful friends such as ellen musk and donald trump i mean if he was to get arrested he will be released the next day because he is that powerful. Well, and also he should be protected by parliamentary privilege. Exactly. And that can give us the information of what's happening to these Southport girls and nothing will happen to him. Tommy Robinson, he's given us information on this young English boy and he's lost his life for it. So who is actually the brave one? And I just think that Tommy Robinson he is suffering now

just like every Christian they all suffer Christianity is all about suffering but in the end he will go down as the hero and I just highly advise everybody to just ask yourself what side of history do you want to be a part of do you want to be the part do you want to be a part of the side of history that's all about money and profit and receiving a paycheck or do you want to be a part of history that's about bravery and sacrifice yeah it's interesting matt goodwin has written a substat today jack ross i have a huge amount of respect for matt uh and i agree with him on on most things however it's very very clear that he has decided today that he is going to be on Farage's side. Tommy Robinson is bad. He's not someone that it's palatable to talk about.

And his argument is that because the polling shows that Tommy Robinson is as unpopular as Keir Starmer, that is a politically sensible decision for Reform UK. I think it's a tricky one because Tommy's team themselves have said that he's not asked to join Reform and I think it's been pushed on to Reform to talk about him as such but I think for a lot of people who support Reform they look at what Nigel says, what Reform says and what Tommy says as being the same thing. So it's certainly surprising for a lot of reform supporters that reform is joining the establishment in bashing Tommy Robinson. They could have handled the situation a lot better.

They didn't have to throw him under the bus. And it's almost that every time he comes up, they don't say why are we talking about him? Why don't we talk about something else? They have to put the knife into him. And that just seems very petty at best. Yeah agree based on bougie yeah no i 100 agree again like i said reform they are only hope but it is a bit of a red flag that every opportunity that tommy robinson's name comes up they immediately start bashing him it's almost as though they are a part of the establishment who

is against tommy robinson but when you compare that to, for example, the UKIP party, someone like Nick Tenconi, he's been very firm on the fact that he supports Tommy Robinson. Why? Because they have the same ideas. So I'm just absolutely confused to how you can have the same ideas as someone, but at the same time bash them. It makes no sense. It seems as though somebody's telling them to do it. And I think that's the energy that the public is getting from, well, the reform circle, Nigel Farage's circle, that somebody is telling them to do it because they have the same ideas.

Totally. And the thing is, you don't have to agree with everything that someone says. And again, I asked Tommy face to face last month, what do you want? Do you actually want to join Reform UK? He was absolutely clear. No, he wants to lead a cultural movement. But what he wants is for Nigel Farage and Reform UK to stop attacking him. That's it. That is his only request. Personally, I think that would be a politically sensible decision for Nigel and Reform too. But look, stand by,

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media and entertainment, the media group owned by British entrepreneur Ashley Table King reported a loss of £129 million in the year end to March, an increase of almost a quarter. Global, which owns radio stations including LBC, Capital and Classic FM, said its podcasting division had been boosted by the success of the news agents hosted by Emily Maitlis, John Sopel and Lewis Goodall. But what are they talking about? A £129 million loss. And remember, Global is the company that, as Charlotte Gill has reported so brilliantly, is involved with this network of the left constantly pushing the messages that the establishment want you to hear. But I found this absolutely fascinating, based and bougie, because how can the news agents, or as I call them, the fake news agents, survive if there is this company making a loss of £129 million? The mainstream media is finished, isn't it?

And this is the proof. No, yeah, mainstream media is definitely dead. The reason why it's dead is because they cannot keep up with their lies anymore. I feel as though mainstream media, most of the news reporters and the journalists, they all say the same thing. Like going back to what we were speaking about, you know, the Reform Party or GB News and their views on Tommy Robinson, they all say the same thing like going back to what we were speaking about you know the the reform party or gb news and their views on tommy robinson they all seem to say the same thing i

mean it's not possible that every single person has the same opinion whereas when you go somewhere like twitter or you go somewhere like tiktok you're actually hearing new information you hear new details like for instance here when you told me what the topics were going to be for today the first thing i did was go on twitter so mainstream media is absolutely dead and at this point it's as though they're writing to themselves and it's because they just cannot keep up with their lives anymore they are all saying the same thing it's no longer um natural anymore there's no real realness to them anymore and um yeah they're definitely just dead you're so right and by the way I think the big difference in the way that I prepare my show Outspoken is that when I provided you with the topics today

I don't ask what you think about them before you come on air I want to hear it for the first time when we're here now that is a huge contrast to when I've worked in the mainstream media and producers will literally patrol the opinions of guests to make sure that they're not going to say anything unpalatable that will get them in trouble with the woke mob or the off communists or advertisers. So, Jack Ross, isn't that why there is a media revolution going on? I mean, you've got Global losing 129 million pounds gb news in massive financial trouble outspoken we have been running for uh less than six months and we are already in profit well certainly i think how they've managed to lose 129 million is beyond me. If we had that sort of money at Turning Point UK, we certainly wouldn't be losing it. We'd be making a real difference in politics. But I think it highlights that it's what the people want. The people are fed up with the media being the establishment's puppet. They're fed up with propaganda being fed to them. They want to hear real people's views. They want to listen to people who wouldn't normally be on the media circuit, the real people in Britain, for example, the real British people.

And that's the thing, as you say, with mainstream media, it is controlled. Certain people won't let you on there. I've had things before where I've been lined up to speak on the media. And as soon as they learn I'm the CEO of Turning Point UK, They'll cancel me. They won't let me go ahead with it. Oh, sorry, we've had to change the schedule. And I think people are fed up with that. They're fed up with just centre-left opinions being portrayed to them the whole time. And the fact the news agents or fake news agents, as you say, have made a loss shows that actually their opinions aren't popular. People don't want to tune in for it.

They want to hear people like yourself, Dan. Well, the thing is, is that I just think these people are cretinous because what they've done is move away from organisations like the BBC to make money. But actually, they are pushing exactly the same agenda. And a great example of that is The Rest is Politics with Rory Stewart, the least conservative conservative in the world, and Alistair Campbell, who, as you know, I think should be locked up. And listen to what they have to say about Elon Musk. Trump. I think he's a genuine fascist. I think that he is somebody who loves the idea of being connected to stirring up a massive political movement. He loves the propaganda tool. And he's showing the power of social media.

X is a small platform with a few members, but he's doing something with it that nobody's tried to do with social media before. A small platform with few members. I mean, what is this guy on? the centrist dad podcasters, the rest is politics and the news agents, pillars of moral clarity in British politics, of course, are completely shtum on the grooming gangs. In fact, none of Stuart, Campbell, Maitlis, Sopel, Goodall have ever mentioned them on Twitter, ever. And Carl Benjamin of the Lotus Eaters replied saying the grooming gangs represent the failure of their Blairite liberalism and they know it. The issue will undo everything they hold to be good and true, so they must ignore it forever. But it got worse, actually, when it comes to the rest is politics and grooming gangs. So let me set this up by showing you what Martina Navratilova,

the former tennis champion, but now one of the world's biggest advocates for women's rights, had to say. She posted on X, of course, on the UK's biggest political podcast, Rory Stewart describes the grooming gangs as confined to just two towns involving 90 or so men paying for sex. That's quite a way to describe men raping children, some as young as 10 years old, and some of whom were raped so brutally that they required

hysterectomies. What's crazy is that this actually seems to be the extent of his knowledge on the scandal. And this is a man who was once in contention to be the leader of the Conservative Party. Well, I thought these guys were pretty pitiful and this is actually sick, Martina went on to say. They do not deserve any platform. Sick, sorry excuses of men. So what was she talking about? Let's take a listen. and 16, disproportionately in care, making friends with them in parks, and then paying them for sex, and then passing them around between each other, and then moving them between towns. The numbers are absolutely staggering. It looks like potentially in Rotherham, 1400 children were abused. In Rochdale, 230 children. And it's a story of many things. It is, of course, for the

far right, predominantly, an opportunity to suggest that this shows that Muslims themselves are dangerous. So something like 94 individuals were accused, many of those may be multiple names, 45 have been imprisoned, but they're being used as a big, big symbol by the far right of abuse. But it's also a big story about the failure of the state. It's about the failure of the police to take the girls seriously, the failure of authorities to listen to social services when they drew attention to them and were worried about what was happening, and a real failure of the prosecution service also, who believed that these girls were not credible witnesses. So all of this going on in the background. Over to you. Jack Ross, I mean, he has no idea, Rory Stewart, of the extent of this issue. I think it's so insulting. and it just makes you think, do they actually believe the nonsense they're coming out with or is someone writing it for them to put out? It's, it's bizarre. It's so arrogant.

It's so up themselves. And of course they had to mention, whenever you talk about grooming gangs, you can't just talk about the horrors. You have to talk about the horrible far right. When actually it's, you know, I don't care if we upset or offend paedophiles or grooming gangs. You know, we need to stamp these people out of our society. And if these liberals got that angry about the grooming gangs, as they do about this imaginary far right threat, then maybe actually it wouldn't be a problem in Britain anymore.

Maybe it would have been resolved instead of covered up. I mean, based on Bougie, presumably he's trying to say that all of us, that you are part of the far right. I just feel as though he literally just done a Kemi 2.0, just basically gave out information that wasn't even correct. It sounds like he even just read something off of an article online and didn't really do his research and that's why people like myself who are part of Gen Z are just not in touch with MSM anymore because if you compare what he's saying to the information that I saw just simply looking on Rumble it's completely different no it's not just 1,400 girls there's tens of thousands of girls and the fact that he can't even get his information correct is why people just do not care for mainstream media mainstream media is so dead

because you can tell they're just a bunch of privileged people who have a bunch of useless degrees and think that they know something just because they're well spoken when really and truly they have not done their research tommy robinson who's a middle-class working man is on the most articulate was able to do give us more information videos um testimonies uh documentaries than these guys and another thing i want people to realize is they are only talking about it now that ellen musk sorry elon musk has spoken about it so again it just goes to show that mainstream media they just go where the wind flows they don't speak about things because they're generally passionate about it like myself you and jack they're just speaking about it because it's trending and it's just no

longer relatable for people like myself. Exactly. Elon Musk made it impossible for them to ignore. Impossible. They knew they couldn't ignore it. But for years and years and years, they knew this was going on and they had massive platforms, massive megaphones in the mainstream media or massive platforms in parliament, and they said nothing. They didn't say a word. And the fact that even now they try to underplay it absolutely shows that this is a story that they want to cover up for ideological reasons. So thank God that we do have the independent media, that we have people like you. And thank you so much to my superstar panel, Jack Ross of the brilliant Turning Point UK, and the conservative influencer, Based and Bougie. You can find her on YouTube and TikTok.

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