Dan Wootton Outspoken - HOW EMILY MAITLIS DROVE TOP COMEDIAN DAPPER LAUGHS TO BRINK OF SUICIDE FINALLY EXPOSED

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

In a bombshell in-depth Uncancelled Interview, comedian Daniel O’Reilly – formerly known as Dapper Laughs – reveals how Emily Maitlis drove him to the brink of suicide due to a Newsnight interview. PLUS: British entertainment, TV and comedy has been destroyed by the woke mind virus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 320. And I'm very excited today because I am face-to-face in our interview studio with Daniel O'Reilly, who you may well know as Dapper Lass. This is going to be a fascinating conversation. I've wanted to speak to him for such a long time because Daniel really was one of the first victims of comedy cancellation. But the great news is that he is fighting back and is now one of the voices that I trust, through his comedy, through his commentary, to reveal what's really going on in the United Kingdom today. So he is standing by for our special uncanceled interview. Thank you so much for being with us today. Of course, there is no uncanceled after show this week while I am in Australia and you're watching our special uncanceled interview. views, but it will return next Monday, so I would love you to sign up to our substack

www.w.w. outspoken. Live, as you know, it is our free speech community. I'm protected there from big tech cancellation from law fair. So if you like what we're doing here on Outspoken, then please do sign up to my substack. www.outspoken.com. Greatest Britain Union Jackass return next week as well. But now, let's go. So you may know Daniel O'Reilly as dapper laughs. He was, just over a decade ago, one of the rising stars of British comedy, beloved by a mainstream audience, beloved by the mainstream media too, a star of ITV. And then I think one of those despicable, I describe it as a comedy cancellation. which would actually go on to precede so many other cancellations that we saw in the mainstream media. He lost everything for a joke. Now, he's totally fighting back now, independent, very, very popular on that circuit

because he'll talk about the issues that the vast majority of comedians who are subjected to the woke mind virus will not. He also does very sharp political commentary. But before we speak to Daniel O'Reilly, Dapper laughs about exactly how he was able to fight back, I just want to remind you of what was utter hysteria back at his cancellation. Actually, this one really impacts me because I know what happens when the mainstream media want to destroy you. Once you have that target on your back and they hunt as a pack, as this can, cancellation proved. There is nothing you can do. And of course, I experienced it personally with my incident on GB News with Lawrence Fox. And what happened to Daniel was equally insane. And actually,

it's only when you look back at this over a decade on and realize, oh my God, what they wanted to do was cancel a working class comedian with the people behind him who was representing the people because I believe his brand of comedy was becoming too powerful. Watch this. In the last hour, ICV have dropped the comedian dapper laughs from their schedules after 50,000 people signed a petition of complaint. He was a comedy star on the internet, but to his critics, one of who will hear from in a moment, a stereotype that many thought died out years ago. They claim he's not just laddish, but outright sexist and deeply offensive to women. Dan O'Reilly, at best, what you do is offensive. At worst, it incites harassment and

violence. Of course he's dangerous. Of course he is. He responded to a couple of female bloggers writing or taking exception to his show, as they have every right to do, by telling his many hundreds of thousands of followers to tell them to F off. When you say you're giving advice to men on the pool and for example you say get your gash out to women, can you deny that that would encourage men to do that on them? Today ITV said he won't be getting a second series with them, citing activities outside of the ITV2 program. Another line that came up, just show her your penis, if she cries, she's playing hard to get. There was a bit in the film we saw where you're holding.

up a knife and you say lift up your fucking shirt. He Chandler, I mean just because he's offensive, is it right to shut him down? Yeah, 100%. I mean, I think he'd definitely cross a line between what is offensive and what should just not be shown on television. He's a massive perpetrator of a culture that we have a serious issue with and that is sexism. To rape and you say geeseer to him as encouragement? No, no.

What I'm explaining to audiences, I think it's ridiculous that people are pursuing this as that. So if women watching this say you, in your comedy, have incited violence, you've vindicated rape and rapists, what they should be doing is saying they've actually ruined your career. I mean, Daniel O'Reilly, I watched that and it shocks me for so many reasons because, number one, they're literally using the word dangerous. Remember, these media organisations, Channel 4 News and the British Bashing Corporation, that purposefully chose to ignore the Pakistani Muslim rape gang cover-up for years, but you're the dangerous one. But actually, on a more fundamental level, right, taking out of context a joke and reading it out in a news studio.

Like, this is madness. But at the time, and trust me, I know what it's like when you're in, that storm. You're not thinking straight. You're listening to different people who are saying you've got to do this. You've got to do this. And so you actually felt pressured into retiring your Dapalav's character, which was the character which had made you a household name, made you you famous. What's it like now looking back at that? I feel really sad for the, for the, for the, for the boy sitting there. I feel really sad for him. I wish that it had more, I wish that it had stronger people around and better

guidance. I mean, when I initially started the Dapper Alas character, I mean, now, if you follow me on any social media, you'll see that I've got many different characters. Like, more recently, with the political stuff, Kirstama James O'Brien, but I've got like Kid Frankie, the Sesh Gremlin, I've got all these different characters that represent different stages in my

life that are like really super exaggerated. And when I leaned into Dapper laughs, that was because at the time actually, I had my own business when I'd come off the cruise ships doing comedy. And I really wanted to differentiate myself, from my stand-up comedy because on the cruise ships

it's all like family-friendly. Exactly. And that's the point we should make. Dapalavs was not you. No, yeah. It's like the whole Keith Lemon thing. Exactly. So it maybe takes on certain aspects of you,

but it's not you. Yeah, of course. I mean, all of all, comedy, character comedy especially is an exaggerated version, right? And I really wanted to push the boundaries and it worked. And it worked.

And it was, you know, the actual butter the joke was lad culture. because I was exaggerating and taking the piss out of it and when I started getting a lot of criticism from it the execs at ITV and my management said well this is good you know like any news is good news it's good it's good to promote the show let's push it and we'd push and push and push and they always want it don't they yeah there's this line that they want it up until a certain point

and then when it gets too hot you're gone yeah yeah but I look back on it now and I wish I'd been a bit more like your Ricky Javas and your Jimmy Cars and, you know, where you just say, look, it's comedy. It's like to fuck you. Yeah, yeah. Take us what I do. But unfortunately, so many of us think like this. I mean, when my cancellation happened, Megan Kelly, the US broadcaster, actually said to me,

oh, Dan, you did the hostage video apology. And she had done the same thing. She'd been cancelled on NBC in America for simply talking about the issue of blackface. She'd never done it herself. She'd never promoted it. and when the whole world comes against you and you're all being told because you're not thinking straight

in those interviews you would not have been thinking straight you want a way out of it and I can remember like that's my biggest regret ever was news night going on news night and I can remember my management saying because my man like it was mental the way that happened my management managed loads of other celebrities

and they were all saying unless you get rid of him we're going to jump shit because the news outlets the mainstream media and the papers were targeting the other celebrity saying you're on the same roster and then they were doing the same to my venues it's like it was mental like they got the tour cancelled all of that

they even people even found out who my landlord was and they were going to my mum's work it was insanity but basically my father had passed away around the same sort of time and I was losing it I was heavily into addiction and stuff as well at the time and my management said the best way to stop it always to apologise and get on there

I wish I'd gone on there and played another character I wish I'd gone on as like an upper class, you know, oh yes, it's completely not real and, you know, like really got, like really play. And showing your comedy charts. Yeah, yeah. And showing what it is. It's classism.

I know, but we, well, it is. It is. And I want to come to that. Yeah. But in that moment, we all have regrets because the one thing, I think, anyone who's gone through a very public cancellation like that. And to be honest, until you've gone through it, it's very difficult to understand the pressure you're under it. You know, it's

like the whole world is coming for you because it touches every aspect of your life as you say your family life your professional life even your home life where you live but the lesson is because you know I apologize I didn't I didn't apologize on air I refuse but but then afterwards someone like wrote an apology for me it wasn't my own words but it's like you've got to post that and that might save your job of course it never does so that's the thing people need to learn And they don't, they don't, and the thing is, one massive thing I learned from this, I mean, don't get me wrong. I know, as a comedian, right, we got to find the line and we got to push it. And sometimes we do overstep the mark.

There's a lot of stuff that I said back then when I was trying to be famous, when I was trying to get acknowledged that I probably wouldn't say now. There's a lot of stuff that I probably wouldn't say now. There's lines that I probably wouldn't cross. But in any other profession, you'd lose potentially a job, but you wouldn't be exiled from your life, from your industry. you wouldn't be told you are never to work again and in fact there was people that were like just die

I can't believe you're still alive so that that and one massive thing that I realized looking back on now is I used to go I spent like I've done like a media run afterwards

well for about two years like when I ran the time I was doing celebrity or about two or three years later I managed to pluck up enough mental well-being to do celebrity Big Brother and I needed the money

but just before that I thought I'll do a media run and see if I can fix this. And I was going, look, you know, now that I've had a daughter, you know, and, you know, I can see how some of my, some of my comedy could have incited something for people that didn't understand it was,

but, and the response that I used to get from the journalist was, oh, right, so you need us to teach you not to rape. And I used to, and I went through a stage of thinking, no, I can just convince them, looking back on it now, it's like, they're fucking nutters. 100%. They're maniacs. 100%.

Do you know what I mean? Like, once they got their teeth in, they're like, and now, that I'm selling out, I've just sold out a tour and I've got another tool coming, I've got a film coming out and all of this beautiful stuff. There's still people now. I still go to, like, I was at a gig,

Unleashed comedy, running some material for my new tour. And there was a female comedian there, and she come to me and she said, you know, a lot of other female comedians said that I shouldn't be on the bill just because you have daughters now doesn't mean you're not a sexist, misogynistic pig. And I was like, wow, they just can't stand

that I didn't die. 100%. Do you know what I mean? 100%. No, no, it is. It absolutely is. And it really does show the mindset. And we've seen it over the past couple of weeks after the reaction to Charlie Kerr's assassination.

Death isn't enough. And this is why I think we sometimes have to lean into this, right, and actually talk about it. Because I've experienced it too. I felt at the time, it's like, these people will not be happy until I die. But then what's so crazy is even then once you die. Yeah, yeah, I mean, they still want to celebrate it. It's crazy because when I talk to other people, I mean, when I got, I never really understood all this left and right stuff early on in my comedy career because I wasn't

interested in politics. I really wasn't. I just wanted to make people laugh. Yep. But the more I think it was through COVID or through lockdown and stuff like that, where I was taking the piss out of Boris Johnson and the, when the, I used to watch the things on TV and they'd come on and they'd go, right, today's rules are you can go to the pub, but only till 10.30. And today's rules are, you know, someone can bring a pint glass over to you,

but they can't hand it to you, even though they fucking put it on there. And I used to listen to these rules. And I'd think, fuck me, the politicians think we are so thick. They're speaking down to us. So I started creating characters to play politicians to show how dumb they think the working class or the average people are. And that's when I got into it. And when I started putting that stuff out, and I'd question things like tax,

like what we're getting taxed on, or I'd question other little bits. And I was branded far right. I'd go, fuck it. No, I didn't even know what far right was. Then I looked into what far right was. I was like, fuck. So then I went, well, what's far left? And that's how I got into it.

Do you know what I mean? Like you can have a simple mindset on something very simple about what's going on in the country and someone can say to you, you're a far, far right, far right racist. And then I looked into it and I was like, wow, this is, and recently, after the Charlie Kirk thing, like what you said, I thought that's, now I understand how dangerous that. That wording is. And we just saw it with the marches. The way that they're labelling the marches, far right, fascists and everything like that.

And you're nice in the kingdom, rather. Yeah, yeah. And you think to yourself, there are nutters out there that will go, oh, right, these guys, these guys are like Hitler. So we've got to kill them. 100%. It's mental. 100%. It is.

It is absolutely terrifying. Just before we move on to that, though, can I ask you about Emily Maitless, specific? because she now has a track record of being a career killer. It's something that she thrives on. And I believe, just like she went into the interview with Prince Andrew, I believe she went into that interview with you to finish you off. You know, that was her plan. It was never to give you a fair opportunity to tell your side of the story.

I mean, you saw it. I mean, it was an ambush. It was an ambush. Can you just talk me through a little bit about what happened during that circumstance? Because I know with Prince Andrews interview, for example, he actually thought it had gone okay. Did you feel that or were you like, oh, God, I should not have done this. It was, it was terrifying. I mean, I was drinking really heavily around that time anyway.

So I don't know how sober I was for it because I couldn't bear to leave the house. People were talking to me and stuff like that. But when they said to do it, we got down to the studios and she came in and she was really nice. Before. Before. She came in. She met me and she reassured me. me and you know she was really nice so I kind of relaxed and I thought it's going to be

all right and what I wanted what I intended to do with that interview originally which I never done was to explain it's a character and I understood that I'd pushed it too far and um that you know although 60,000 people had signed a petition to counsel me and 40 odd comedians had signed an open letter to to shut me down there was still millions upon millions of people that followed my social media that understood it and I tried to, I wanted to explain that. But as soon as she started firing stuff at me, I just outright was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry and da-da-da. It was horrific, man.

It was like, it was like terrifying. Like, I knew straight away as soon as she started. I was well out. I'm not the man I am now. Like right now, I'm free and a bit year sober. I've got a lot of clarity. I can articulate myself well. I've done a hell of, I've done like seven years media since then.

back then I was a kid off a council estate that suddenly got famous on on vine and Facebook and that I found it difficult back then to string a sentence together without swearing you know so I was you know I just knew I was out of my depth and I just rolled over and what about the consequences because again I've I've spoken to people who are very close to Prince Andrew after the interview with Emily Maitlis and people don't realize and look Prince Andrew that's a separate conversation right but he's a human being who has not been found guilty of any crime. And I know for a fact that after that Emily Maitlis interview,

he had serious psychiatric concerns. You know, it impacted him deeply. It changed the course of his life. And there was no aftercare. Do you know what I mean? Because Emily Maitliss and the BBC had got what they wanted, which was the headline and the skull. Did you have a similar sort of experience after that interview?

Oh, man. I mean, like right now, I've, I've, by the way, I don't, yeah, I've spoken about it a few times quite a bit before, but I've had a really sort of horrific mental health journey. I mean, I've got this band on my, on my wrist here, which is my actual mental health charity, men and their emotions. Like, off the back of everything I went through, I built this charity. I got 50,000 lads in this group on Facebook that are all talking because I, yeah, and so

something positive has come out of it. But when I came out of the back of that, I believed that there. there was something wrong with me. I came out of that thinking, oh, fucking hell, maybe I am. And my family's been affected by sexual violence, right? So I had people in my family going, what? So you're pro-rape? And I was like, I couldn't understand because of the way that things have been twisted.

I went into a bout of thinking, well, I have done wrong and I do deserve this and maybe I shouldn't be here. And that coupled with the way that I coped with alcohol and drugs ultimately led to me being suicidal and I wanted to take my own life and I needed to take my own life one night and I actually luckily rang the Samaritans and off the back of that it took me a good five years after that to get sober but I shared that whole journey online and um uh it's really a journey of accountability for my own actions with with addiction but also speaking to men that have been gone through stuff and hated themselves because suicide is all about shame and guilt and

self-loathing and low self-esteem um and I've managed to pull myself out the back of that and saying positive has come out of it with the charity. But, you know, you look at other people in the media that haven't survived that, you know. And I look at those situations and I do think to myself, if I had taken my own life back then, bar my family and my friends and a few of my supporters, no one would have given a fuck in the media. It would have been a victory. 100% because they don't care at that point because you are not a human being. And I think about this a lot, a lot,

because, you know, if I didn't have the support of my now fiancé and my family going through what I did, it would have been very, very difficult because everyone else walks away, right? I mean, did a lot of your friends? Because especially if you're part of an industry, did a lot of your friends walk away? No, I'm quite lucky that my friends aren't stupid.

They're like working class, real people. Like, they understand that comedians make, jokes do you know what I mean like you go to a comedy club majority I think like I think something like 70% of the British public understand that comedy is subjective and it's not for everyone I mean if you if it it pisses me off when people say to me um you know you're just not funny fuck off I'm like yeah to you yeah subjective right so it it I can be offensive and not funny to you but to someone else I am like you wouldn't come and you wouldn't tell people to stop listening to classical music and listen to something else

else, right? And my friends, some of my friends didn't like my comedy. Some of my friends thought it was too much, but none of them turned their back on me. I was lucky about that. Me and my now wife broke up back then because I pushed her away because I was drinking and doing drugs. But she stayed there and waited for me and got back together with me and helped me rebuild my life. But just going back to Emily, mate, this, I recently, I keep tabs on her social media. And to be honest with you, when I look at where she is now and what she's doing and what I'm doing. I look it

and I'm like fucking hell you're crank like yes if you look at if you look at I never really

comment too much on people there's a lot of comedians that try to fuck me over back then um that said stuff

about me you know like Jason Manford and then later on he gets caught wanking online and all the there's loads of stuff like there's like there's loads of comedians

that loads of celebrities Jack White or loads of them you all get your moment they all have their moment after and I like to maybe because of my sobriety

just my love for life now, I rare, well, I never really go, ha ha, look at you, you know, like, you know, Reggie Yates done a whole piece on me and then whatever. But Emily Maitliss, I just wrote a little thing under one of her tweets recently. It's like when I read these comments that you get on your tweets, it really makes me realize, you know, like who is who in themselves. Do you know what I mean? Because my, I believe morally, I mean, I know I'm a dickhead. I know I can be a knob, right?

But morally, I believe in, like, love and compassion. I try and spread positivity and she gets slated online for good reason but look I think you're completely right to point that out because she set out to destroy your life and the thing is there are consequences of this right I mean I don't know if you heard because again it got very very little coverage in the mainstream media but it really impacted me actually I didn't know him at all I knew friends of him but recently a former conservative MP called David Warburton took his own life now he had been falsely accused of sexual allegations but then the newspapers, I think it was the son, revealed that he had apparently snorted some cocaine. He lost

everything, right? He lost everything. I've spoken to his friends about this. He lost his wife. He lost his career. He was, I think he became an Amazon delivery driver in his final days. And he couldn't take the shame and guilt. And he couldn't take the shame and guilt because there was no path out. And just what you're saying is true. He took his own life. And there was, no be kind there's no no reflection

from the media and when it was spoken about I think Kia Stama spoke about it in PMQ's there was no actual discussion

about the fact this is the consequence of not just false allegations because I know you were not subjected to false allegations

what you were subjected to was hysteria absolute media hysteria over a joke and I really do think people

like Emily Maitlis need to look about the consequences but then as you say they're cranks because I've looked at their coverage over the past few days of Charlie Kirk. No, you, you, you know, Charlie Kirk is dead and they're still lying about him and they're still trying to, to, to damage him with lies and claim he was a homophobic, you know.

I put stuff, I put something online about, about that, you know, about different things. And recently I am a little bit, I do have the guts now to be a bit more outspot, well, I'm really outspoken. We like that here. Yeah, I don't give a shit anymore. And I used to look at the left, or I used to look at this like, far. left or these people and I used to be like so I need to be morally like you

and you're so like Emily mate this was interviewing me and I'm like I can remember thinking oh right so I've got to make them like me like me like she needs to like me in order for me to be successful on TV now I look at him as a bunch of fucking nutters I'm like you don't you have got you are not in you

like James O'Brien and that Lewis Geese or I don't know who he is oh Lewis Good but when he was talking about a hundred percent inheritance tax the other day I was like, why the fuck would we bother working? Like, why would I bother working? The only reason I'd do anything is for my kids. And then I'm like, you are completely detached with the real people on the ground

that are dealing with real stuff. And I suddenly started getting this sense of pride about how I felt and my views. And that's where I'm at now. And the comments, like I said, the replies to Emily, make this tweets, just make me go, yeah, you are a crank. Absolutely. Now, is Dapalaf's back? because certainly your ex account is still named daplas.

And obviously, because obviously you killed off dappalafs at the time, is dappalafs? No, no. Dapper laughs was, he was a character that was stereotyping lad culture. And I'm a father of three daughters. And now, actually, just a few days ago, a brand new baby boy. Yes, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Finally, I didn't think I had it in me.

And I got a wife. and business and, you know, so my comedy now is, I like to do a variety of characters, but the accounts are all, you know, like, it's a brand. It's like the account, it's just the account names. It's a brand because it's what people know. Yeah, but my tour, our tour is Daniel O'Reilly,

which has been, which actually has been very difficult because a lot of people don't know me as Daniel O'Reilly. And we had to start, I mean, we had to start off with the last tour that we've done, just because we couldn't get venues. There was still a lot of stigma around it. We had to start off with two or three venues to try and sell them out. And as Daniel O'Reyer, O'Reilly, we pushed it out.

We weren't sure if people were going to go, who the fuck is Daniel O'Reilly? But when you see your problem with the venues, what, they were still not prepared to book to. Yeah, the media, even though on a scale of fucking, I don't know, someone that's really, really, really, my family friends. Well, no, like, I'm talking about comedians, but on a scale, on a scale of like Michael McIntyre to Jim Davidson. To Jim Davidson, yeah, or. Where are you?

I'm like, I'm probably just past, uh, I'm probably just past, uh, I'm, I'm probably just underneath Jimmy Carr and just below. Not I'm talking about fame. I'm talking about how controversial how controversial. I'm not even, I'm nowhere close to as controversial as say Ricky Javises and like the way he does it is is brilliant. So it blows my mind that they're like,

they believe what the media had sown for so long that the owners of the theatres were literally like, well, who's going to come? You know, is it going to be filled full of misogynistic, sexist rapists? You know, what's he going to say? So I had to get two or three shows out for. for people to believe in it but money talks man once I started selling out shows the next thing we had 60 sellouts

yeah and then we're on to on to more but but yeah I can't remember what the original thing was asking well actually what I want to do is just because for people who don't know and this is where I have really got into your comedy is that you have become increasingly political commentating on the state of the United Kingdom today

I love it here's just a little selection of some of your best bits as they say Angela Brainer was advised by cheap lawyers I've given her the phone number to the very same lawyers that we used to fight the will of the people in Epping

she will never lose again in fact she will go on to avoid tax in different areas do you hear about the shopkeeper that put a sign up saying that his cabinets are locked

because of scumbagged shoplifters that's fair enough in it you can say that can't you if people are robbing your business and you're pissed off about it no mate not in England anymore last night the BBC

and I feel like vomiting into my groin as I say this, announced that Thomas Skinner, Thomas Bosch Skinner, will be appearing on my wife's and my wife's boyfriend's favourite TV show, Strictly Come Dancing. What are going to ask for tax for next? Tempe, tax on breathing? How about that one? That's going to be a new one,

monitored by mandatory government-issued smart nose clips. Do you not what I mean, to count inhalations? If you're breathing British oxygen, you need to pay the HMRC. Demonstrally divine. I mean, migrants are an economic. bunch of titans while british workers as we both know are astonishingly parasitic in an ideal world will replace every single brit with a migrant imagine the prosperity right a manchester police sent detectives you heard me right detectives to an old granny's door because she typed out on facebook

that labor counselors are muppets and they should quit over the WhatsApp scandal okay so this is so me this is so me Daniel it's like this is the type of comedy that I need in my life because I you know there is so much going on in the United Kingdom today which is absolutely insane that we've got to start laughing at it because what I think you're doing is bringing a lot of the absurdity

about what's going on to a mainstream audience but talk to me about that move into what I would describe I don't know if you described as this but very political comedy now I think that I think

that I represent a huge unrepresented demographic all right like I've got friends of mine that I've got certain views

about things that going on and they know that you know if they talk to certain people about it that they're just deemed like bigots, racists and all of this jazz and also I think actually I was pushed more into political satire by the press

like when I read the way that the press talks about the issues in the UK and also about how how they talk about other people that talk about the issues. For instance, now, if you have a right-leaning view on, say, for instance, you think, I mean, I would have conversations with people where you talk about things like, you know, yeah, the people that are coming into the country, they should be checked. You know, we should know who's coming in.

They shouldn't just be dumped into local communities and put into hotels. It scares the local population. Actually, the government have a responsibility for the divide within the country because that process should be better somehow. and then you're called a gammon or you're called all of these names I suddenly thought

well who's on the other side who's on the other side getting this message out without coming across as just like a like a fucking like what they say at gammon and comedy can can spread a message like that you know you've got to speak for people

and basically just because I'm getting pissed off at the state of the UK and how it's run and actually the hypocrisy like politicians they just say they're going to do one thing and then when it doesn't work they change to do something else and it's just a lot of bollocks in it it is but you quite rightly make the point

that so much of this comes down to classism yeah and your background is obviously as a working class yeah I grew up on a council state yeah where was that I grew up on a council estate in Waybridge which sounds pretty ironic because it's quite posh like Waybridge Surrey but me and my mum and my sister my mum and my mum and dad broke up when I was young. Me, my mum and my sister went into just council accommodation from a very young age

from when I was about four or five. I had multiple different houses growing up. My friends are all, you know, real working class lads. And I think one of the biggest scandals probably of the UK for the past 20 years, to be completely honest, is that actually the most deprived group in society, And this is now proven, right? You won't hear about it in the mainstream media, but it's backed up by multiple statistics

is white, working class, English boys. Yeah. And actually, you could say the same thing about Welsh boys and Scottish boys too, but the statistics that I've looked at specifically in regards to England. Yeah. But no one talks about that group.

I mean, do you know what the crazy thing is? Like, now that I'm out doing the comedy circuit, again trying to test material for for gigs my comedy director is like that place won't have you that place there's no point even applying to that place uh there's places that are like you know if you're gay if you're trans if you're black if you're you're you know left leaning fantastic right leaning white working class straight male fucking no way no way like it just said something and um that's really that's really scary also like you had the same same thing with Tom Skinner. I'm constantly talking about my family. I'm constantly talking

about sobriety, about changing my life for my family, how to be a good dad and stuff like that. And that feels like that's knocked. But yeah, it's a surreal thing. I always used to, it wasn't, because I was such a drunken mess while I was getting cancelled, it wasn't until afterwards. I realized that rape jokes or jokes that are deemed misogynistic and sexist, although unintelligent and whatever at the beginning of my career, I was not saying anything that was anywhere near as bad as what Jimmy Carl was saying. But I realized quite early on that the difference is

if you're well-spoken, say Oxford educated, people in the press or out there will go, well, he's clearly intelligent enough to be being ironic. If you speak like this, they're like, fucking, that's dangerous because the people that follow him are so thick, 100%. They'll believe it. That's what they think. It's the Douglas Murray versus Tommy Robinson thing, right?

They say virtually the same thing, but Douglas Murray, who I'm also friends with, really great guy, but he says it in a posh voice. He's Oxford educated, so it's considered acceptable. Yeah. There is that classism. And so presumably the jokes that you were making, though, are the jokes that you would be making down at the pub with your friends. And this is, I almost feel like a demonization.

of the white working classes, which has happened, especially since Tony Blair, came into power in 1997. And I do feel like the British public have had enough of that now. Oh, they don't like that British public, especially people on social media.

I mean, I've put something out quite controversial this morning that I was telling you about the marches yesterday, watching all the coverage of how the press are covering it. But the British public, like normal people, don't want to be told what to laugh at. They don't want to be told, They don't want to be educated on their taste and humor.

They're over that now. And I just think that, you know, what I believe in now, right, is expression, right? If I think something, I shouldn't have to double check how it's going to come across. I just want to express how I feel. And all the way back then when I was writing those jokes that were considered misogynistic or whatever, right, there's a process in my mind where I go, right, this is one word that has two meanings, that would be funny. if I can craft that into a sentence. For instance, you know,

and my character that I was working on at the time was a lad orientated, like he was out shagging girls, partying, doing drugs, right? So I've got my subject matter, shagging girls, party and doing drugs. Right, I need one word that has two meanings. So I come up with a joke that might be like, and then I'll get an actress to play in the sketch,

and I'd be like, excuse me, miss, can I smell your fanny? And then she'd be like, no. And I say, well, it must be your feet then, right? So I've gone through this process. of writing and crafting it down on a piece of paper. With the backing of the character in my mind, I shoot it and put it out and they go, sexist, misogynistic prick.

You're like, yeah, that's the fucking point. That's the joke. And the differences between people sat down the pub, lads and geese sat down the pub, and someone like Emily Maitliss on the news is they go, all right, I see what he did there. That's fucking silly that is. They don't go, so what, he wants to rape people?

100%. You're like, fucking hell. And I did get to the point where I was like, just fuck comedy, man. What's the point if, what's the point if I can't, like, because what I find is quite, like, out there. Because I think I grew up, I grew up that way. And also, well, comedy is actually meant to make you gas. Yeah, you don't go to a comedy club to hear your nan speak, do you?

No, and it's exaggerated, but it does make wider points on society. And also, one of the points of certain comedy, too, is for people to sometimes reflect and look at themselves and think, well, actually, maybe I do go a bit too far sometimes. But to me, so much of this criticism, right, is, and especially in the entertainment industry, remember, I was there for, you know, a long time to working at Wokai TV, as I call it now, for 10 years. And I saw the change. You know, I literally saw the change happen. But there is so much, what I describe as acceptable anti-white racism now, where if you're white, you will be told that you are losing your job because you are white, because. we need to bring in a DEI hire, for example, do you feel like there is an acceptable level of anti-white racism in a way that there wouldn't be, if it was any other form

of protected characteristic, be it asexuality or a, you know, an religion, you know, it almost feels like attacking the majority white native population has become acceptable. Well, yeah, I mean, I've experienced it recently with my film. I wrote a film called Sessions, which is a film that is loosely based on my life, which is about cocaine culture, session culture in the UK, how it gripped a whole generation. And it's predominantly about, because it's from my perspective, white working class kids getting on the sniff at the weekend. Obviously there's different people that involved in it and all that jazz. But when I took it out there, because it was about mental health, the family unit,

and suicide in men, when I took it out there to try and get funding, I had a lot of, a lot of people come back. First of all, we can't have you play the lead, which I did. In the end,

I funded it myself because I wanted to, I wanted to play the lead. It was my story, but, so you're playing yourself. I play, it's not, because it's loosely based on,

it's loosely based on my experience. It is dramatized. It's cinematically dramatized. So it's got a crime element to it and all of that. But I've done, I've done many films. I'm an actor before I was a comedian, but they wanted a more diverse storyline.

A lot of, somebody actually pulled funding quite close to shooting because they wanted to shoehorn more of a trans or an LGBT embleman into it to make it wider and more accessible or for the distributors or easier to sell more commercial. And it really angered me because I believe that there's a massive underrepresented audience of white, British, straight men or whatever, their stories that now, you don't. especially the working class aspect of it, that commissioners and everyone out there will go, do we not have something a little bit more progressive? And it's that story that I wanted to tell, you know, it's for, you know, it's for a specific reason. So, and that couple with trying to get gigs

and getting put forward to reality TV shows, I keep having old agents come back to me and say, oh, we've put you forward for this. And I'm like, oh, and they've come back and got, no, actually, they're going with this. And you're like, well, stop putting me forward for stuff. for that, you know. Yeah, that's the thing.

I mean, in some ways, everyone has to just give up on the mainstream media, but let them die their own death. Because you look at, I mean, because for me, what I've never understood, what I've never understood about this, right, is surely the whole point of diversity on screen is that you reflect the makeup of the population. So it'd be very weird if you were watching a Japanese drama, right? and there were 50% white people in it,

given that the Japanese population is predominantly Japanese. But in this country, I feel it's gone mad. It's gone completely mad. I mean, ITV in particular now, you would genuinely believe that we live in a population very often where it was even minority white in some occasions.

So I do feel like it's gone mad because it's not diversity if you are actually over-representing certain groups of the population. Yeah, I think that you can, I think that you can, I think audiences are smart and I think that you can see when it's been shoehorned in. I mean, my friends in the film are very diverse, so I've got black, white, friends, everything in the film. But for me, you know, I have a gay character in the film, actually played by Paul Smith, the comedian. You know the comedian, Paul Smith, massive comedian. He plays a gay drug dealer. But when people come to me and said,

we need some trans stuff in there. You're like, that's a bridge too far. Well, no, I've got nothing against it, but I was just like, my audience will go, why the fuck, like, what's this got to do? What has cocaine culture, based on my story through mental health and suicide, got to do, you know, I've watched stuff on, I mean, don't get me wrong,

I've watched brilliant pieces with trans, stuff in and all that. I don't have any particular, like, opinion on it. I think, be who you want to be. I couldn't give a shit as long as it doesn't get pushed on me or my kids. Do what you want to do. Be, and I'd be perfectly happy, being friends with people and blah, whatever. But when you watch something and then, boom, suddenly there's a trans person in and you're like, oh, what's that got to do with this? Yes. Do you know what I mean? And audiences are quite aware of that. Well, of course they are. Because isn't this behind the death, though, of British comedy because look

I think back not actually that long ago right we're probably talking 15 years ago look at a genuinely iconic series that had genuine crossover like the in betweeners it would never ever be made today

the four lead characters are white and straight it would never be made and it was some of the funniest shit you've ever seen in your life because it was realistic they even fucked Dr. Rua up didn't they? Yeah I don't know I I mean, more than, fuck it. I mean, it's over.

Yeah, yeah. It's over. Yeah, and look at... It became a diversity parade. Yeah, and Jaguar, fucked. I mean... Yes. And again, again, people may watch this and say,

you're bigger, you're better, and all that. It's not. It's, I don't want my intelligence insulted. You know, I want to be able to have my taste catered for. You know what I mean? Can I have my taste catered for? And it cost me, it costs me a lot of stress making this film, actually. So you, because you, because you, because you,

You, because you wouldn't go down that diversity. Yeah, I lost funding. And you have had to fund the film yourself. Yeah, I funded part of it myself. But I had to put myself under a lot of pressure to go out, to continue the project and then try and fund it while I was continuing. So to go out and find investors while I was doing it. And, you know, it's like I wrote a gay part, you know, I wrote.

And not because I wanted to put, not because I wanted to put a gay person in. I wrote a gay part because I thought, how cool would it be for the drug dealer to be scary and gay like how cool would that character be the character itself would be and actually paul was like i love it like can i kiss a guy in it and then all this stuff and it grew it wasn't because i was like oh gay people were like this it was because it made the story more interesting but when someone come to me and said what would be even better is trans i was like well now it's fiction you know does that sound weird no it's so depressing though but we know this i mean we absolutely know this because look at the films that get all of the big funding now look at even

the new rules yeah but they're not popular no of course they're not they come out and people are like that shit 100% 100% and i think there are just huge lost opportunities but this is why we are actually reinventing what the media is and i guess that's the very positive thing i mean look at your story it is crazy you emerged through social media right so kid from a council estate given this platform for your comedy because of social media. But actually, I would argue your comeback has also now been driven by social media because people don't necessarily anymore want to go and sit down and watch a highly produced 30-minute sitcom, which you've got to tune into on the BBC.

There's a very different way of people accessing the content that they want. Yeah, and what I find weird as well is that, you know, some people may not like some of my stuff And that's fine. Yeah. But I still follow people to get an informed perspective on stuff. And if I see something I don't like from someone, I think, oh, that's a bit shit. I don't go, you're unfollowed. I fucking hate you.

How dare you cancel him? I'm just like, I don't understand where people have gone loopy. It's a nutty world for you. Now, what's interesting, though, is that people in the past would have assumed someone with a background like yours would naturally be a Labour Party supporting. did you used to be like I know you said you weren't political but did you sort of have that feeling of like yep you know

the Tories are bad you know Nigel Frudge as a racist did you sort of have that mindset yeah I don't know I think to be completely honest and I'm going to make myself sound stupid I had no interest in politics like I mean zero interest like to the point where I wouldn't vote

I didn't intend on ever voting I had I didn't think that my my voice could change the way. And in fact, I wanted to go in a different route to the way the country was going. I didn't want to believe that, and this is going to sound really stupid probably, but I didn't want to fall into the mindset that a group of people in parliament will decide how successful or what's going to happen in my life.

I honestly thought whatever's going on over there is going to happen. I'm making money and I'm going to build my own future over here. It wasn't until actually lockdown and COVID that I went, fuck, they can fuck us. Like, I need to get involved in this. I need to, and I was old then. I always describe it as like a radicalisation moment. Everyone has one. It's like that moment where you wake up and then once you're awake, it's pretty

impossible to ignore. And then to watch Boris, rule in the country, I was like, oh, I was going on, mate. And also, endless content. I was like, fucking this is brilliant. And then. When you were locked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really got into it.

But I still don't know. I still don't really know. You're not party political. No, I still don't know where I lie, you know, where I'll be voting or where I'll lie. I try not to, I try not to like really, but when it comes up to the next election, I'm going to have to put my flag in the sand. What about this sort of interesting row that's going on, I would say, amongst, well, a lot of working class people between Nigel Farage and Reform UK and Tommy Robinson and his Uniting the Kingdom rally. That's quite divisive. Like, where do you stand on that?

I don't, I really, I really don't know. I mean, I just, I don't, I don't know. What I, what I'd need to do is really, really look into what their, what their policies are. I try to just, I try to see what they're saying and see where I lie, but I don't know. I certainly don't know enough about United Kingdom. It feels brand new to me. Do they even have hardcore policies? Well, no, because obviously Tommy's like not wanting to be a politician, but Advance UK is the

political arm which has led by then he used to be the deputy leader of reforming UK but it's interesting to me because I guess what I see happening is Nigel Farage who was the working class hero potentially being usurped it's almost like the closer you come to power the more establishment you become and obviously the risk in my view is that reform UK ends up being a bit more like the conservative party yeah if you do it me like is there anyone who you see who excites you who you think oh gosh i could get behind this person i could see them becoming prime minister like do we have a trump figure i mean some people for example reckon it's jeremy clarkson who's like just waiting there to be you know probably

he doesn't want to do it tom skinner tom skinner yes i don't know that ben habib talks a lot of sense doesn't yeah i think he does but farage is a difficult one isn't he because um yeah i don't No, it's a really difficult one. But one thing I will say is what I do like about Farage and Trump and stuff like that is they don't beat around the bush and they speak in real terms that we can understand. I don't trust a word that comes out of Stahmer's mouth. I believe that he talks, he says whatever, the most popular thing to say is. And you've got to respect people.

He's an empty vessel. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. it's, I like to take, uh, the hypocrisy and take the piss out of it. But the thing is, you joke about Tom Skinner. Yeah. But something really quite chilling has gone on over the past few weeks. Not too dissimilar to what.

Because what? Because he waved the flag once on GV News. Well, yeah, but he basically was signed by the British Bashing Corporation, as I call it. The what? The BBC. Oh, right. Yeah. You know, to be the star of streaming come done.

And the left decided they're going to ruin the guy. I mean, I've been reading a newspaper. I really like Tom Skimmer. I've been reading in newspapers that he's had to give an interview sobbing because he, you know, cheated on his wife three and a half years ago. Now look, to me, that's, that's his person. I feel horrendous about the fact that they are literally out to destroy this guy. But why? Because he's, because he's, because he's, because he's paid.

well he's a threat he is a threat because the thing is you laugh about tom skinner being prime minister well he's powers with j d vans exactly i was going to say who did j d vans choose to meet when he came to the united he didn't meet kemmy badenog the leader of of the conservative party so so i don't laugh about those things because i'm like everyone was laughing about don't Trump being president even in 2015 when he launched his campaign literally so I don't laugh about Tom Skinner potentially like I think aunt Middleton running to be the mayor of London is really interesting because I feel like we need to find leaders who actually represent us do you see what I mean and to me Tom Skinner represents the people of this country far far more

than slippery Starma ever would so so so so I 100% 100% I'm from for him then fucking Salik Khan and all of that stuff but it is really really interesting isn't it crazy it's crazy when you think about it like and where did that feed into where and I saw people online linking

Ryland with Tom Skinner saying that Tom Skinner had radicalised Ryland are fucking like do you know what I mean 100% what I thought that was hilarious What did you make of that because again I found this an example of the establishment media

the mainstream media, in this case, Woke ITV, but it was also all of the newspapers that went mad for this trying to get Rylan cancelled, for saying something which actually, if you looked at the polling, probably over 80% of the country would agree that illegal migrants should not be able to enter this country without us knowing where they are

and then be handed iPads by charities at hotels. Again, he was portrayed as some type of far right monster. I think it's shocking. It was absolutely mental that people went old in a second. Did he say iPads? Did he say iPads? Because have we got proof? Yes, iPads.

Because he said iPads, everything that he said is irrelevant. 100%. It's fucking mental. And by the way, can I just say on that iPad thing? Because this has really been annoying me. All of the fact checks are like, oh, well, the government doesn't give them iPads. But all of the charities, all of these hard-left charities are there. on the first fucking moment

these people off the boat handing them iPads, handing their mobile phones which they then use in the illegal economy by the way to traffic drugs to set up prostitution deals or by the way to come and deliver our bloody food on Uber Eats. It's like when you say to someone

did you watch that hour long video that Tommy Robinson did that had 50 million views and they go, you know his name's not Tommy you're like fucking hell. Oh my wicked. but no I thought it was I thought it was crazy because and do you know what it is

people go what else I thought was people went I'm so proud of Ryland for standing up for us and putting his career on the line on TV you know what the truth of it is

he's just going well I don't think that you should be able to break in I think that we should know you are and you know people are worried about it he didn't think he was putting his career on the fucking line

he thought he was just talking in common sense you go back back years and years to go back and go and ask your grandma and granddad's or great grandma and granddad's what they think and they'll be like yeah shouldn't we have borders like the amount of shit the UK has caused

all over the world totally you think we should double check who's coming in it's mental it was a total common sense position which I think does show how far the mainstream media have fallen but I'm so happy that you are back and so tell me where can people see you or as the two are completely sold out

no no no no we are kicking off the tour in October well. I would love for you guys to all come down. I'm going 60 different dates. It goes... I've got to come to one. Yeah. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Friday and Saturdays for a whole year I'm touring over the whole country. Really? Yeah, 1,000 seats. 500 to 1,000 seats. We definitely are in a town near you, 20 minutes to an hour max away from you. You can get tickets on any of my social medias. Follow me on Instagram. This is almost like as close to a day job of comedy as you can get. Oh, it is. It will be. And the beautiful thing about being able to being on tour every.

every week is whatever's going on in the news I'll have a certain part of the show where I'll be talking about So you update it? Yeah, I'll be talking about current affairs.

There's a lot of audience interaction and there is a solid segment about the show which I'll tell you what the show's the show is called Les Avit, right? So originally when I first went out on tour we had to call it

out of character because we had to we had to tell the establishment that Laugh's was a character right? So we had to call it out of character to get him through the front door. Now we're through the front door

it's called Les Avit. It's like no old's bar It is basically a look at how the world has changed. You know, it's a nostalgic look back at how things used to be to how they are and how fucked up everything in between this. But it is a night of laughter. And, you know, again, I'm always seeing where the line is. So you never know when it's going to be my last show.

So get your fucking tickets quick. And all the dates are on your Instagram, which is at dapper laughs. Yeah, dapper's Instagram on Instagram on Instagram, dapper laughs on Twitter. Twitter, I'm a lot more political. Instagram's a lot more family-friendly stuff although I did just chuck my Tommy Robinson March video up on Instagram

and go and have a look at the comments there's always a good argument going on it's good fun Yeah no look I am so glad you're back Because I honestly believe I think the same thing with Katie Hopkins too There's a big big market in live Because that's what the establishment cannot control

You've got the issue with venues I know that but as you say Once you start selling out venues then they'll sort of come on board and I think it's really interesting really interesting. Thanks for having me man and I'll be honest with you when I saw you sharing a couple of my videos I was like oh man that's lovely.

No I love them I use them sometimes in my in my digest because sometimes I honestly feel like things are so crazy sometimes only a comedian can actually sum up the madness. Do you know what like the one I played earlier about Angela Rainer I used it in my digest the other day because I'm like, this is insane. Stama's literally trying to defend this woman.

I see it. I see it like when I saw Keir Stama with Donald Trump, I genuinely got angry. I was like, when he's like, no, no, no, no, no. We have freedom of speech here completely. And I don't, no, no, no, 30,000 illegal immigrants went back. No, no, no. And Trump's like, oh, you're doing a great job.

Gaslighting the whole UK. I'm like, give me my phone. Well, gaslighting the whole world. Yeah. But no, it's so brilliant to have you back because, you know, for me, I'm all about, uncancelling people. Well, maybe after this, I'll be cancelled again.

I don't know what I've said. What have I said? I don't know. You've been very, very good. Daniel O'Reilly. Daffer laughs. Thank you so much for being here today. And thank you so much for your company on this special uncanceled interview edition of Outspoken. We have amazing people coming up for you.

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