Dan Wootton Outspoken - ISLAMIST CHEATING SEES GREEN VICTORY AS NIGEL FARAGE ERUPTS & TOMMY ROBINSON HITS BACK

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The Islamist takeover of the Gorton and Denton by-election was proven within one minute of the polls closing, with the Green party candidate Hannah Spencer beating Reform UK’s Ma...tt Goodwin after family voting and postal vote stitch ups. But something changed overnight. The UK’s elite class and MSM finally woke up about what we are facing with the Islamist takeover of our country, ushering in sectarian politics. Nigel Farage and Matt Goodwin are utterly furious and threatening police action, even though the final result wasn’t even close. But Reform UK remains part of the problem too, with the party already distancing itself from Goodwin’s comments about ethnicity, sparking a new war with Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain today. So is there any reason to hope we can be saved from this mess? Katie Hopkins still thinks so. Dan explains why the Gorton and Denton stitch up has to be the change in British politics. Then we're joined by Spiked Online’s chief political writer Brendan O’Neill, whose brilliant new book Vibe Shift: The Revolt Against Wokeness, Greenism And Technocracy is available to buy now on Amazon. PLUS: Femo Oluwole stalks Lucy Connolly on the train, as the political prisoner reveals she will sue the Brexit virgin. AND: Is Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor the subject of an ugly witch hunt? We’ll debate. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry’s Hamas shame grows as he gives a disastrous interview in the Middle East to hard left Channel 4 News. We’re joined by royal YouTube sensation P-Dina for all the latest. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is outspoken episode number 435. And breaking right now, the Islamist takeover of the Gorton and Denton by election was proven within just one minute of the polls closing. With the Green Party candidate Hannah Spencer beating Reform UK's Matt Goodwin after family voting and postal vote stitch-ups. Let's make our area the best it can be. Vote Hannah Spencer! I won't accept this victory tonight without calling out the politicians and divisive figures who constantly scapego and blame our communities
Starting point is 00:00:45 for all the problems in society. My Muslim friends and neighbours are just like me, human. But something changed overnight. The UK's elite class and MSM finally woke the fuck up about what we are facing. with this Islamist takeover of our country ushering in sectarian politics. I did speak to a, try to speak to a number of members of the South Asian community. Women turned to me and just said, no, my husband deals with that.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And I was quite struck by that. Obviously, we couldn't catch that on camera. You can see in one part there is a large South Asian community in the sort of Gorton heart, whereas the Denton part is almost over-eastern part, is almost overmelmingly white. And I think most reform people would say that they were trying to mind voters in this part of the constituency.
Starting point is 00:01:37 On weaponising the Islamist vote that now Polanski's basically said, right, well, I can be even more radical than you, right, which is hard for them to beat him on, but I can go much harder on sectarianism, much harder on division in our communities. Indeed, the reform runners-up are furious, taking legal action, even though the final result wasn't close in the end.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Matthew Goodwin, you hope to be Reform's ninth MP. What went wrong? Because it wasn't even close. Sectarianism. That's what happened. So the Gordon Denton by-election is a victory. Yes, it's a victory for sectarian voting. It's a victory for cheating in elections. But I have to be honest and I will we today. Reform and Farage remain part of the problem too,
Starting point is 00:02:26 with the party already distancing itself from, Goodwin's comments about ethnicity sparking a new war with Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain today. Some very odd extreme far-right ideologies coming out of Matt Goodwin and reform. Endorsed also, as should I say, by Tommy Robinson. The whole fire right thing is a lazy trope, actually. Endorsed by Tommy Robinson. I'd say that's far right. Tommy Robinson has nothing to do with our party. He's endorsed you?
Starting point is 00:02:52 He can support who he likes. He's nothing to do with this party. What is it that possibly that draws him to your party? May I just... Well, he said that you can't be basically black or brown and be... I don't think he did quite say that. What did he say? Well, this is what the bit I can't quite understand. But the point was...
Starting point is 00:03:06 So being British is more than a piece of paper. You also said that people who aren't white can't always be English. Yeah, I didn't understand his reasoning. But the whole point was that it wasn't reform party policy anyway. The point is that... You're stepping away from that idea. Sorry, am I. You're disowning it for reform.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yes, I am, absolutely. Throwing under the bus within hours of losing. So is there any reason to hope? Is there any... reason to hope we can be saved from this mess? Well actually Katie Hopkins thinks so. Watch. But what's amazing and the reason I'm so positive is because right now people get it. People are waking up there are what five, six parties calling this out, restore reform advance, all the rest. So why the Gorton and Denton stitch up has to be the change.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Has to be the change in British politics. That in my digest next. Then the perfect guess for today. Spiked Online's chief political writer Brendan O'Neill, whose brilliant new book, Vib Shift, The Revolt Against Wokeness, Greenism and Technocracy is available to buy right now on Amazon. Also coming up on the show today, Femiolawi stalks Lucy Connolly on the train. as the political prisoner reveals she will sue the Brexit Virgin. Is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor the subject of an ugly witch hunt? I'll debate that with Brendan. And Prince Harry's Hamas shame grows as he gives a disastrous interview in the Middle East
Starting point is 00:04:41 to Hard Left Channel 4 News. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show over on Substack after the main show, Royal YouTube Sensation P. Diner joins me to reveal why Megan Markle and Prince Harry's shaky marriage collapsed on their fake royal royal. Tour. You can sign up to watch at www.outspoken.org. We'll also be revealing the worst Britain in the world this week at the end of the show. There are your nominees. This is when we put your union jackasses from across the week head to head on Monday. It was Sarah Ferguson. Tuesday, Shemima Begham. Wednesday, Lela Cunningham and Thursday, Prince Harry. So get voting now. We've already had tens of
Starting point is 00:05:20 thousands of votes. Keep your feedback coming in throughout the show too. We have a very interesting poll running in the live chat. Who would you vote for if a general election was held tomorrow? I'll reveal those results too. But now, let's go. Something changed last night. It might be too little too late, but the UK's elite class and MSM finally woke the fuck up. Woke the fuck up about what I have been talking about for years. How the Islamist takeover of our country is now ushering in permanent sex. politics. Now, of course, it is infuriating. I've taken this long to realize. And let me be clear, they only care now because it's their precious slippery stammer and precious labor that is being
Starting point is 00:06:13 crushed and was crushed by the Greens in Gorton and Denton. But this has to be the moment of change. Because if it's left to another election, it will be too late. And I just want to show you how the Greens spent the final hours of the campaign by flying the Palestinian and Pakistani flags in Manchester as its Islamist deputy leader Mothan Ali dominated proceedings. Vote green. Vote for humanity. Vote for Gaza.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Vote for Palestine. Vote for court and indention. Let's make our area the best it can be. Let's vote for green. Both! Both! What is that? A Spencer! Yes, they're embarrassing, but they're dangerous too. Now, immediately after her crushing win against Reform UK's Matt Goodwin,
Starting point is 00:07:46 which pushed Slippery Starman's Labour into a devastating third place, the woke white woman with suicidal empathy running through her veins, Hannah Spencer, used her victory speech to push fake news about what she described as an attempted attack at a local mosque that could have potentially turned out to be terror when actually the police found no evidence the incident was terror related at all.
Starting point is 00:08:14 To our Muslim communities who this week suffered an attempted attack during Ramadan whilst I was being welcomed by women at a mosque in long sight, someone just down the road walked into a mosque. mosque carrying an axe. And whilst we were gathered and eating together, an act of terror could easily have taken place. And I can and won't accept this victory tonight without calling out the politicians and divisive figures who constantly scapegoat and blame our communities for all the problems in society. My Muslim friends and neighbours are just like me, human. So I mean, there's no doubt this is a party completely captured by Islam. Indeed, the Muslim vote
Starting point is 00:08:54 claimed credit for the win. Boasting the real story tonight is that young Muslims and wider voters are breaking from transactional politics and embracing democratic accountability, registering, organizing and participating fully in public life. Many back to the Greens because Labor has failed them on Gaza, immigration, the economy, the NHS, Islamophobia and civil liberties. But I say no. The real story is that the...
Starting point is 00:09:24 Islamist bloody cheated. Just like I have predicted, right here on outspoken, these past two days. Gorton and Denton did prove to be the Islamist dirty tricks stitch up election, and even the MSM, have now had to reluctantly acknowledge it after democracy volunteers who were given access to polling stations officially by the Electoral Commission reported astonishing levels of family voting. Now, this was first reported by Sly News' Deputy Political Editor Sam Coates immediately after the polls shut. He dropped this bombshell. The Observer team saw family voting in 15 of the 22 polling stations observed, some 32 cases in total, nine cases in one polling station alone.
Starting point is 00:10:11 The team observed a sample of 545 voters casting their votes, meaning 12% of those voters observed either caused or were affected by families. family voting. And John Alt, who is the director of democracy volunteers, said, we have seen the highest levels of family voting at any election in our 10-year history of observing elections in the UK. We rarely issue a report on the night of an election, but the data we have collected today on family voting when compared to other recent by-elections is extremely high. In the other recent Westminster's to parliamentary by-election in Runcorn and Helsby, we saw family voting and 12% of polling stations affecting 1% of voters. In Gorton and Denton, we observed family voting in 68% of polling stations affecting 12% of those voters observed.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So let me translate this for you. This is cheating. This is electoral interference. This is against the law. And it must not stand. We must not look away. And that is just on the day, okay? Because that's before you even get to the corrupt postal votes, which must simply now be
Starting point is 00:11:21 banned. I mean, as Kathy Gingell put it, what about all the postal votes where husbands instruct whole families? But the Muslim vote wasn't having any of this, and you know I will present both sides. They said blaming family voting is irresponsible and insulting. They said for decades, so-called block votes were welcomed when they benefited Labor. It only becomes a problem when communities vote differently. In other words, yep, this is going on, but you only care about it now that it's impacting Labor's vote. What is extraordinary, though, is that after that statement,
Starting point is 00:11:56 the floodgates then opened on sly news after years of covering this stuff up. Watch. I was in Gorton and Denton and just trying to talk to people. I did speak to a, try to speak to a number of members of the South Asian community. Women turned to me and just said, no, my husband does with that.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And I was quite struck by that. obviously we couldn't catch that on camera. And I think that this is going to dominate the night. Look at this. This is how Gorton and Denton split down by ethnic minority. And you can see in one part, there is a large South Asian community in the sort of Gorton heart, whereas the Denton part is almost overwhelmingly white. And I think most reform people would say that they were trying to mind voters,
Starting point is 00:12:49 in this part of the constituency. But here, I think this has largely been a battle between Labor and the Greens. As Jack Hatfield put it, a major broadcaster, just straight up admitting the ethnic vote split, including maps and charts, we all know this is just astonishing to see on Sky News. Reform UK's dodgy new recruit and Dean Sahawi
Starting point is 00:13:10 was even allowed to say this, presumably because he himself is Muslim. On weaponising the Islamist vote, that now Polanski's basically said, right, well, I can be even more radical than you, right? Which is hard for them to beat him on, but I can go much harder on sectarianism, much harder on division in our communities. And I think many, many, by the way, patriotic Muslims tonight will be looking at that, feeling quite worried of what's happened in Gorton and Denton.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And I suspect, as I say, Kirstama, is reaching the end of his tenure in number 10, and this will just get worse from here onwards. The nation will look at this as chaos. And I think a lot of people watching us tonight and waking up tomorrow morning to what has happened with sectarian voting, if what we think has happened has happened with,
Starting point is 00:14:11 is 12% voter fraud along sectarian lines, weaponising the Islamist vote. I think that's a real wake-up call for the country to say, actually, Nigel Farron has been warning about this for a decade at least, and I think it will enhance our position as a party and as a party that can hopefully deliver for the country, for the silent majority of the community of watching this chaos. Now, immediately after the vote was announced,
Starting point is 00:14:46 a furious Matt Goodwin immediately hit out at sectarian politics. Matthew Goodwin, you hope there is now an alternative to vote green and it's not a wasted vote. No, the Greens can only pull this off in about 30 seats in the country, okay? You need that combination of a strong Muslim vote
Starting point is 00:15:09 with students, okay? Reform, we can pull this kind of result off everywhere. So what I would be saying... We haven't done it here. But we did. We've more than doubled our vote relative to 2024. We can do this in every constituency. Every Labour MP will wake up tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:15:27 we'll look at the reform vote, and they will think, oh gosh, we're in trouble. Matthew Goodwin, you hope to be reform's ninth MP. What went wrong? Because it wasn't even close. Sectarianism. That's what happened. We more than doubled our vote. We're in Labor's backyard.
Starting point is 00:15:43 We're the second political force in this seat. We have planted a flag in northern England. You'll have seen the reform boards up and down this constituency. More than 10,000 people voted for us. We can go on to Labour constituencies across northern England, into the red wall, into Wales. We can win those seats. We will win those seats. Again, the Greens can only pull this kind of result off in a small number of seats. We can do this everywhere.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Our ground game is the best game in British politics. We're not resorting to sectarian politics to get us over the line. I think we've run a very professional campaign. I think we've connected with the local people. You know, again, not many British people want legalized crack cocaine and heroin, open borders, scrapping our nuclear deterrent. The reason the Greens have won here, let's be honest, is exactly what that report was warning about a few hours ago.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Family voting, otherwise known as sectarianism. Now, we can have a conversation in this country about sectarianism. and what it's doing to our democracy, or we can pretend it's not happening. It's clearly happening. Nigel Farage weighed in two, writing incidents of family voting in Gorton and Denton reached the highest levels of any election in the past 10 years. This is deeply concerning and raises serious questions about the integrity of the democratic process in predominantly Muslim areas. But of course, there's denialism from the Islamist MPs like Adnan Hussein, who said this constant vilification and scapegates.
Starting point is 00:17:13 of a minority community has got to stop. But quite rightly, Nigel hadn't calmed down this morning. Watch. So the Gordon Denton by-election is a victory. Yes, it's a victory for sectarian voting. It's a victory for cheating in elections. Back in 2015, there was a by-election in Oldham. I called it bent and corrupt because of the way that postal votes were being corralled within the Muslim community.
Starting point is 00:17:40 The same happened again in Peterborough in 2019. and, you know, I even fought a court case against what I saw when someone turned up with a supermarket bag with a thousand postal votes in. Well, in some ways, I've been on my own in trying to call out fraud in politics. But last night at the close of play, a very reputable organisation called Democracy Volunteers
Starting point is 00:18:03 said in 12% of voting cases, they had witnessed family voting. That means a husband and wife, or more, going into the privacy of the polling station and effectively watching how the other member of the family votes. This is illegal under the law, and yet it appears that the council didn't do anything about it. Not long after releasing that video, Nigel did indeed confirm in a post on X
Starting point is 00:18:33 that reform has today reported the many cases of family voting to the Electoral Commission and Greater Manchester Police. He said what was witnessed yesterday is, deeply concerning and raises serious questions about the integrity of the democratic process in predominantly Muslim areas. He added, if this is what was happening at polling stations, just imagine the potential for coercion with postal votes. If action isn't taken now, then we will ensure it is after the next general election. Official opposition leader, Kemi Bader not really stayed powerful, but not really correct statement too, arguing Labor
Starting point is 00:19:05 created the monster of harvesting Muslim community block votes and yesterday that monster came back to bite them. I mean, I agree with that. As I've said many times before, we are a multi-racial country, not a multicultural country. Okay, agree with that too. If you stir up grievance politics between groups based on religion or race as Labor has done for decades, as reformers seeking to do, and as the Greens have done successfully in this by-election, you're pitting neighbours against each other, and you start to unravel the culture of tolerance that makes Britain great. Here's where I disagree. Our country is not broken. Yes, it is. But this by-election showed that Labor reform and the Greens are trying very hard to break it.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Now, what about the Green Party leader? Titt Whisperer himself, Zach Palamski. Well, he was simply allowed to deny the reality of what we know happened in a softball interview over on the British Bashing Corporation. A question just about the voting, actually. A group of counter-observants have said they're concerned about the prevalence of family voting. You would have heard about this. At Portland stations yesterday, again, Reform UK, who we interviewed,
Starting point is 00:20:05 we interviewed the chairman, has questioned the fairness of that, that if that has happened, would you welcome an investigation into that? I think if any wrongdoing has happened, and of course there should be an investigation, but it's important to say that Manchester City Council have been very robust in saying there's been no irregular findings and no police officers on every single station. I think reform a finding that that anti-migrant and divisive rhetoric is not working anymore. I think people are sick of it, and actually they want solutions to the crisis. But I have to be honest about this, Reform UK, are a big problem in the mess too.
Starting point is 00:20:38 given their paranoia over being branded far-right and racist, which this morning saw their chairman David Bull distanced the party from its by-election candidate Matt Goodwin. Indeed, I would argue the war on the right has actually only got worse as a result of this by-election with Tommy Robinson posting to Farage, careful Nigel, you can't alienate Islam or you will never win an election. Your words, not mine. And of course, that's why.
Starting point is 00:21:08 the disgrace, I guess, of last night is why so many of us were furious with this recent capitulation from Nigel. We have a Muslim population in Britain growing by about 75% every 10 years. Right? That's just where we are. If we politically alienate the whole of Islam, we will lose. We will lose. So how does one include them? We will lose. Basil the Great hit back at Matt Goodwin saying, yes, we know. We've been trying to tell you for ages and how did Reform treat us? We want nothing to do with that lot, booting people out of the party and you personally called us racist. And of course, that capitulation from Reform does continue because of total nutters, nutters like Emily Maitliss of the fake news agents. I've got to show you her ludicrous take on the election. Turns out Tommy Robinson was likely
Starting point is 00:22:07 key to the solid green party victory in Gorton and Denton, hearing a lot of the high turnout driven by anti-racism, people terrified. I mean, Emily, seriously, look at what's happening. None of this was down to Tommy Robinson. But Labor's chairwoman Anna Turley pushed a similar message on Newsnight and Reforms Chairman David Bull, I think, responded in exactly the wrong way. I've been really horrified by some things that Matt Goodwin has come out with in this election campaign, not just the divisiveness around immigration and saying that people here can't be British who we know are part of our community and who we welcome,
Starting point is 00:22:45 but also saying that women should pay extra tax if they've not had children. And as someone myself who's not been able to have children, but who gladly pays tax to support children across this country because we want to give them the breakfast clubs and the best schools and the opportunities to flourish that we see that this Labour government is giving, lifting them out of poverty,
Starting point is 00:23:01 I'm very happy to do that. But this kind of strange, misogynistic victim blaming, There's some very odd extreme far-right ideologies coming out of Matt Goodwin and reform. Endorsed also, should I say, by Tommy Robinson. The whole fire right thing is a lazy trope, actually. Endorsed by Tommy Robinson. I'd say that's far right. Tommy Robinson has nothing to do with our party.
Starting point is 00:23:18 He's endorsed you. He can support who he likes. He's nothing to do with this party. What is it that possibly that draws him to your party? And then this morning, after the result, Reform UK signalled immediately that it is stepping away from Matt Goodwin, throwing him under the bus with David, going on sly news to disown his views on ethnicity.
Starting point is 00:23:39 We did the wrong person for this particular... I have to give him credit. He was fantastic. He worked so hard. He was out in all weather's for every single day of that campaign. He had a local connection as chairman. I want everyone to have a local connection with the constituency they stand in. He is an academic. He, I think it's fair to say, made some interesting comments, which I have had discussions with him about. Which ones in particular? Did you talk to him?
Starting point is 00:24:06 Well, lots of things, for example, about what it means to be British, for example, came up a lot. Well, he said that you can't be black or brown and be British. I don't think he did quite say that. What did he say? Well, this is the bit I can't quite understand. But the point was that... So being British is more than a piece of paper. You also said that people who aren't white can't always be English.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, I didn't understand his reasoning. But the whole point was that it wasn't reform party policy anyway. The point is that... You're stepping away from that, I dare. Sorry, I'm on. You're disowning it, yeah, for reform. Yes, I am, absolutely. So the point is, if you were born here,
Starting point is 00:24:38 if you're British, you hold a British passport, you're British. Well, Tommy Robinson posted his take on that moment on X, saying reform chairman throws Matt Goodwin straight under the bus after the Green Islamakun-Hawley Alliance beat them in the Gorton and Enden by-election last night, quoting him as wrong for stating the fact that being British is more than a piece of paper, vile. And there is an alternative course now. And that is a problem for Reform UK. So Rupert Lowe, the leader of Restore Britain, hit back saying, no, David, a British passport does not make you British.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It is so much more than that, that Egyptian Islamist Nasser has a British passport. Is he British? No, of course not. Restore Britain's position here is clear. A British passport does not make you British. But let's just be honest. The Gorton and Denton campaign was a stinking moral atrocity from start to finish. And it makes me fear for the future of our disunited kingdom. I mean, let's not forget there was campaign material like this, which was completely in Urdu and Bangal. Foreign languages, and they left out in these particular messages, loads of the Greens' real policies like loving trans extremism
Starting point is 00:25:58 and wanting to legalize all drugs. there was Hannah Spencer herself, who I think gave in to dark Islamist forces on just so many levels. Instagram that you've been fasting for a day. Can you tell us a bit about why you decided to do that? Yeah, I think it's really, it's always really lovely that I'm always included in the celebrations, like with my Muslim friends and neighbours, and whether that's like going to an Ifthar or having Eid celebrations, or just like in my job when I'm working in someone's house and there's that spirit of, like, festivity and everyone's like sharing food and I'll leave the house with like a tupperware full of
Starting point is 00:26:39 things that they'd made the night before. In a time when our Muslim neighbours and friends and communities are under so much attack like it's really nice to sort of do something together and be part of it. And there was actually one of the most disgraceful moments in recent British political history when that woman on the BBC blamed Matt Goodwin for the Islamist terror attack at the Manchester arena that killed young people at an Ariana Grande concert because she couldn't bear
Starting point is 00:27:08 to mention the Islamist truth. What we did, what we did after the terror attacks was we came together and we stuck up for each other. But you've never asked why are those things happening? Of course we have.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Why are they happening? Of course we have because people like you are dividing people. So I'm responsible for the Manchester New Zealand news arena bombing now. That's not what I've just said. Because we have very real issues
Starting point is 00:27:33 with integration and I've even had lots of minority Brits in this seat say exactly the same thing to me. Jackie Pearson for the Liberal Democrat. Now what we've also seen is the celebrity class move wholesale from their failed backing of slippery stammer, now they're going all in on the Greens. Case and point, as Charlotte Gill put at what an interesting career
Starting point is 00:27:54 Carol Vordemans had from plugging loans to socialism. Watch. Excuse us stated me, I've just been walking miles in the rain. I can't wait for the result tonight. It's so close and so exciting in Gorton and Denton. And I hope that horrible Farage and his Reform Party are putting their place, please. Because it will have a significant effect on everything that's going to happen in May with the Welsh Senate elections, which are done on proportional representation.
Starting point is 00:28:33 and also on all the local elections which are going to happen in May as well. Very excited. Come on, Hannah Spencer! How can anyone take that crazy woman seriously? I mean, literally 18 months ago, she was trying to convince us all that Britain was going to become a utopia under Slippery Stama. I actually think Vorderman has lost the plot because look at what happened after the result was announced.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And she went back on social media crying. Well, I've just listened to Hannah Spencer's won. And she's not just won by a little bit. She got just short of 15,000 votes. You know, everyone's saying it's so tight, so tight. Labor had 9,000 and reformed down at 7,000. And her speed, you've got, she started me crying. I'm going to put it on the post because,
Starting point is 00:29:35 oh God, it's beautiful. It was about working class and the love that she's felt and how people who work hard, whatever it is that they do, deserve a good livelihood. And they deserve a good life. Carol, seriously,
Starting point is 00:29:59 you are destroying this country. Piss off. Perhaps most insane, though, is that the significance of this by-election is even more than finishing the career of Slippri Stama. I mean, I haven't even spoken about this yet, but he will not be able to go on as Prime Minister, given the scale of this loss.
Starting point is 00:30:20 In fact, a Cabinet Minister messaged Sam Cote's of Slyne News as the result came in, saying last Monday the Cabinet fell in behind the Prime Minister because they cared more about saving their own jobs than doing what's right for the country. If they do it again tomorrow, they'll be paving the way for Nigel Farage to be Prime Minister after the last. the next election. But this morning, on cue, Red Rainer the Tax Evaders stepped up her leadership campaign announcing this result must be a wake-up call. It's time to really listen and to reflect.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Voters want the change that we promised and they voted for. If we want to unrig the system, if we want to make the change we were sent into government to make, we have to be braver. A labor agenda that puts people first, that's what all of us across our movement need to rededicate hate ourselves to this morning. Now, to Take care, he's done, he is finished, but the problem is they just want him to take the fall in May. He didn't even have an excuse this morning. Watch.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Incumbent governments quite often get results like that midterm, but I do understand that voters are frustrated, they're impatient for change. And I came into politics, late in life as it happens, to fight for change for those people who need it, the people who need an NHS that works for them, to be able to get a doctor's appointment when they need it, to get the money they need in their pockets to pay their bills,
Starting point is 00:31:44 and to have a decent and better life. And I will keep on fighting for those people for as long as I've got breath in my body. I will also fight against extremes in politics. On the right and the left, parties who want to tear our country apart. The Labour Party is the only party that you can knight our country and our community.
Starting point is 00:32:06 and we will line up together in that fight against the extremes of the left and the right for the values that we believe in. He's done, we all know that. Stamaism has failed. Rainer will likely take over following a bitter leadership battle, which will see Labour push even further to the hard left. However, that is not the story of this by-election. But Stama going won't save the problem of what we are facing.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I mean, it is no coincidence that as the vote was being announced to Manchester, the Winston Churchill statue in Westminster was defaced with the words Zionist war criminal. So in this climate, is there any reason to hope? Or potentially, Mike Jones had this to say just before the result was confirmed, and I agree with him, actually. He said the writers and a total win-win in Gorton and Denton. If Goodwin takes the seat, it will be hailed as a superhuman effort by Reform UK in a constituency with unfavourable demographics. If he loses, though I hope he doesn't, he obviously has, the case for even harsher immigration restrictions will gain unstoppable force and the media class will finally grasp the scale of
Starting point is 00:33:19 the crisis we face. I want Matthew to succeed, but even if he falls short, he shouldn't lose heart. The political consequences tonight are enormous. Either way, this is a total win for the right. and Katie Hopkins took a very similar view today. But what's amazing and the reason I'm so positive is because right now people get it. People are waking up. There are, what, five, six parties calling this out, restore, reform, advance, all the rest.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And I know people will say, yes, but if they don't work together, do-go-do. If they don't work together, blah-l-l-l-l-l. But that's not the point right now. directionally, the path, and I literally felt like this, you know, walking completely alone whilst being kind of flayed to death in every way, losing homes, losing jobs, you know, people coming to take your head. That's all fine, because I chose all that. So I have no sympathy for myself whatsoever. If you put yourself out there, you suck it up, and I sucked it up. But what an amazing thing.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But we cannot underestimate what a challenge it is going to be to turn around this mess of the elite class's own creation. As Daniel Hannan despaired, sure enough, the Greens appear to have won Denton and Gorton, we are balkanising Britain moving beyond citizenship as our primary political identifier and instead relating one to another as members of antagonistic tribes whose territories happen to overlap. The Green Party's campaign should place it beyond the parameters of democratic decency, divisive sectarian ready to stoke Muslim grievance against Israel and India, the woman who told her reform opponent that the Manchester Arena bomb happened because of people like you dividing people is now an MP.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Britain can no longer boast of having always kept the extremists out of Parliament. And now, Brendan O'Neill. Brendan, an astonishing vote, but one that you very much predicted. Yeah, it's depressing, isn't it? The lunatics have won. I mean, the Green Party, what a bunch of people. of nutters they are. It really is kind of slightly scary to think that they have got this seat and they've won this election. The thing that's really actually made me feel quite sick all day today is the way in which Hannah Spencer and Zach Polanski, the tit whisper, as you call him,
Starting point is 00:35:51 the way they've been going on about how divisive reform is and how divisive the right is and the right is stirring up hate and causing problems for everyone. I'm sorry, the most divisive politician we've had in this country for years is Hannah Spencer. That's her name. She was the one who campaigned in Urdu. She's the one who appealed to Muslim grievance. She's the one who tried to whip up Muslim anger to secure a seat in the Commons and it was a successful strategy. She's the person who said punish labour for Gaza who associated with a party who celebrated the acts of 7th of October, a party who the deputy leader referred to as a rabbi as an animal. I mean, if we're going to talk about divisiveness,
Starting point is 00:36:36 if we're going to talk about bigotry, if we're going to talk about prejudice, we should buy these people a mirror because they need to see themselves and what game they've been playing. 100%. And Brendan, what did you make of the statement that was released immediately
Starting point is 00:36:50 as the polls closed? Because yes, it's good that people are talking about family voting, but what we still don't have is a direct discussion about the links between that and Islamism. Yet we all know that obviously the family voting was being undertaken by Muslim families. You know, even though you're absolutely right that suddenly sections of the media are waking up to some of these problems, having ignored them or actually stirred them up for the past few decades, because let's not forget that even though the Green Party has played a very sectarian game in Gorton and Denny,
Starting point is 00:37:27 and the path for them was paved by the Labour Party, because the Labour Party has been playing the exact same game across northern constituencies for a very long time. They've been weaponising Muslim grievance to hold onto certain seats where they've lost the white working class vote. They've been doing that for ages. And all that happened in Gorton and Denton yesterday is that the Greens proved that they are better
Starting point is 00:37:50 at this pork barrel politics than Labour. That's really what happened. And the media has turned a blind eye. to all of this. And in fact, worse than turning a blind eye, they've called everyone who wants to talk about it Islamophobic. If you raise any of these problems about the influence of radical Islam or the divisiveness of this Islamist ideology and the hold that it has, tragically, on certain communities, if you raise any of those questions, you'll be called Islamophobic. And that's still happening today, by the way. I've seen people being called Islamophobic
Starting point is 00:38:22 for talking about the problem of family voting, for saying it's wrong for Muslim men. to bully members of their family to vote in a particular way. It's wrong for Muslim men to tell their wives how to vote. I would have thought that these were pretty progressive positions, pretty open-minded positions. You know, we think everyone should be free to vote how they want, men and women, and yet apparently you're a bigot if you raise this problem. So it's good that the media is finally talking about this issue,
Starting point is 00:38:51 whether it will be a watershed moment and we'll have a broader discussion about Islamism, I'm not so sure. not sure either, to be honest. And your new book, Brendan, actually talks about a revolt against greenism. So how do you explain that with the surge, I guess, in the Green Party under Polansky, which I guess has happened weirdly outside of Greenism, right? Like, yeah, it's the Green Party, but they don't really do Greenism anymore, do they? They do extreme wokeery, extremely. trans stuff and extreme Islam. You know, that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And I was thinking about this earlier today that I was never a fan of the Greens, but I keep thinking, just bring back the old Green Party, please. You know, it was just a bunch of kind of middle-aged home counties types who didn't like pollution very much. You know, it kind of makes me nostalgic for the days when the Green Party was a bit more normal,
Starting point is 00:39:52 even though I would never have supported them or their policy. Yeah, it was the among bean eaters, wasn't it? You know, it was a different. breed? Yeah, pretty harmless people at the end of the day. Some of them were a bit cranky on the climate change issue and told us that the world is ending and billions will die, which is bullshit. But for the most part, it was a pretty harmless party. But they've completely got rid of the green stuff. The Green Party doesn't talk about the environment at all these days, hardly. Anyway, they talk, as you say, they talk about trans. They want the right of men to go into
Starting point is 00:40:22 women-only spaces. So they don't support women rights. They don't believe in science. They don't believe in biology. They're obsessed with the trans issue. Or they talk about Gaza, morning, noon, and night. They hate Israel. They are consumed by this kind of swirling animus for the Jewish state, which they see as the most evil state in the world. And of course, they talk about issues like Islamophobia and they cozy up to Muslim communities. And we saw Hannah Spencer speaking in Urdu and covering her sinful hair when she went into the mosque and dancing around with Muslim men. it's gross. The whole thing is gross. And I think what it really speaks to is a new left that has nothing to say to working class communities. So what we have is a situation, Gorton and Denton
Starting point is 00:41:08 and spelt it out so beautifully because as you showed from Sky News, the divide in that constituency is so graphic. Where on one side you have a section of the community that is primarily Muslim and some students and kind of middle class people. And then on the other side, side the white working classes. That's the new divide in 21st century British politics. On one side, we have the graduate elites who are making alliances with ethnic communities, especially Muslims, in order to get their crazy politics into power. And on the other side, we have working class communities crying out for something different, crying out to fix our borders, to sort the immigration problem, to take this country seriously. And the question is, who is going to listen to those
Starting point is 00:41:52 working class voters. Someone has to. Indeed. Now, Brendan, of course, we've got to talk about the divide on the right as well. And I just want to share with you the results of the live poll that we've got running on the YouTube chat at the moment. I ask quite a simple question. If a general election was held tomorrow, which party would you support? And I've just given the parties on the right as options. The Conservatives got 3% of the vote will do at this point. Advance UK. 13% they had a disastrous night last night Reform UK
Starting point is 00:42:26 27% but restore Britain 58% and we have seen this growing feeling and I don't know what your view is on it but that actually reform are moving too much
Starting point is 00:42:41 to the centre and that there is appeasement going on and indeed they did boot a lot of people out who were for example supporting Tommy Robinson over the Islam issue. So what do you make of the divide on the right and the big launch of Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain?
Starting point is 00:43:02 It's so interesting, isn't it? You know, I've always taken the view, led a thousand flowers bloom. And the more groups and organisations and parties we have, the better. I'm not one of those people who thinks, you know, if you have too many parties, then you'll steal votes from that person and you'll undermine that party.
Starting point is 00:43:18 No one is entitled to people's votes. Everyone has to struggle for a vote. You have to earn people's vote. It's a precious thing. So I don't agree with those people who say that Restore is going to screw it up for reform or advance should back out and let reform run the show. We should let everyone have a go and people, let the best party win. I think I'm more on the side of the 27% in your poll. I would be more in favor of reform.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I know some people in reform. They're good people. their hearts are in the right place. They've got some good ideas. I wish reform was a bit more daring. I wish it was a bit more outspoken. I'm very unimpressed with its economic policies. I find them actually quite tragic and quite flat.
Starting point is 00:44:07 It's indistinguishable from the Cameroon era, really. Yeah, Robert Jenrick now texting George Osborne for sort of like approval. God. Exactly. So that's a worry. That's a massive worry. So there are certain things that I think they need to buck up their ideas. But I just think that, you know, I think you and I probably disagree on this
Starting point is 00:44:27 because I know that you're more in the restore camp. But I do think Farage has his heart in the right place. I think he could be more edgy. I think he could be more outspoken. I think he should take a few more political risks because people are crying out for something really new and really different. I feel perfect. I thought he was good last night, okay?
Starting point is 00:44:51 But where I have an issue is it's like, okay, good. So you're tackling this now. You're actually tackling this. You're saying there's a big problem with Islamism and there's cheating going on and the votes. That was great. But then I see the treatment of people who say similar things and get booted out of that party immediately.
Starting point is 00:45:09 So, I mean, I don't support any political party, but I definitely think at the moment that restored, is doing the right thing on these issues. And already you can see them pushing Reform UK to the right, which is a good thing too. You know, the thing that we need probably highest on the list in this country right now is an honest discussion about vulcanisation. And an honest discussion about the problem of radical Islam.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And you showed that clip earlier of Hannah Spencer, when she couldn't even name the ideology that led to the, the slaughter of 22 young people at an Ariana Grande concert. I thought it was so repulsive that someone who wanted to win a Manchester seat couldn't name the ideology that caused the mass murder of Mancunian kids. I mean, what a coward, what a lily-livered coward where she wouldn't actually give the name of it, which is Islam. Radical Islamism is the cause of that. And that was so indicative of the problem we face, which is this staggering lack of honesty about the issues in our society, the staggering unwillingness to be upfront and outspoken about the crisis in this
Starting point is 00:46:22 nation, which is to do with our broken borders, out of control immigration, the rise and rise of parallel universes where people live different lives in different communities. All of these things need radical solutions. And I just hope at the next election that we have a party that is not Labour or the Tories, because they have led us down this road. They've screwed up the nation so that we're in this problem that we're in. And I really think people are crying out for change. But the big question mark is who can get the working class vote out? Because I think one of the lessons from Gorton and Denton is that the middle class voters and Muslim voters are much keener to vote. They're much more active. They want to go to the ballot box and stop reform. Whereas I
Starting point is 00:47:09 think working class voters, understandably, because they've been sold down the river by the institutional parties for so long, working class voters are a bit more cynical, a bit more skeptical, they're not sure if it's worth it. So can reform inspire those people to actually get to the ballot box? That's a big question. So I really think someone needs to stage an intervention with Femi Ola Wally. Do you know who I mean, the Brexit Virgin, the tight blue T-shirts, like total, complete and utter freaky weirdo and has been for years. But he's actually gone too far this time. And Lucy Connelly, the UK political prisoner, a regular here on Outspoken, is now going to sue him because he was on a train. He was on a train and look, he posted this saying there was a
Starting point is 00:47:58 terrorist on my train today. And that was linked with this video showing him filming Lucy Connolly, innocent traveling to London. Now, I think this is creepy and weird, firstly, like, do I believe it's a coincidence that Femiola Wally, who is obsessed with Lucy Connolly, just happened to end up on the same train carriage as her? No, I don't. But what are you doing, filming a woman on her own, who already has lots of threats to her life, on a train carriage? It's totally, totally disturbing on so many levels. And I do not blame Lucy for being horrified. So for a long time, I've thought that Lucy should take legal action against Femi,
Starting point is 00:48:45 describing her as a terrorist. So I did ford this post to her when I was sent it. I mean, I actually have Femi Olawli blocked on X and have done for a long time, but someone sent it to me and I forwarded it to Lucy. And she was angry. I don't blame her. She responded to Femi saying, you muggy, C-word. I saw you smirking at me and taking photos. Note you knew who I was, but I didn't know who you were
Starting point is 00:49:08 irrelevant. You have used up all your lifelines now posting photos of me, making yourself relevant. You will be hearing from my lawyers. You are a danger to society. This is the third time he's referred to me as a terrorist. I saw him smirking at me and taking photos. The thing is he's that irrelevant. I didn't realize who it was until Dan Wooden sent me his post. Terrorist and Dean. Game on Femmy. I heard you're a bit skint since getting the sack. That's, of course, because he lost his job on the Jeremy Vine show, which he said was paying his rent. Femmy responded, though, saying, your lawyers will tell you, you undermine any claim that I damaged your reputation by saying you think I'm irrelevant, you amplified any damage by sharing my post
Starting point is 00:49:48 yourself, you met the definition of terrorists, you pled guilty, your reputation is already trash. She said, stop cashing in on my name, you creepy stalker, but Femmy, of course, couldn't stop because he never stopped, writing side note, the reform post. party won't let her sue me because when I win, it will be a matter of legal record that Reform UK platformed a terrorist. I mean, what a scumbag. And Lucy hit out in this video on Gauchy reports where she said she will be suing his ass. But it's come to light that someone on social media has been saying a few nasty things about Lucy. And Lucy's just spotted that and
Starting point is 00:50:32 reacted. So Lucy, you're here with me now live. So what are you got to say about what you've noticed? I'm traumatised. Traumatized, I tell you. Are you sure? Definitely. I felt some weirdo taking photos me on the train and smiling and I didn't really think much of it. You made me feeling comfortable, but I'm used to it now being famous. Anyway, hold that camera up because I don't want any shit on this. And yeah, and then Dan Witten just said me a post saying, Oh, look at this, Femma was on your train and he was taking photos and he's calling you a terrorist. What does it feel like to be called a terrorist?
Starting point is 00:51:13 It's a bit below the bell, isn't it? Really? A terrorist? Come on guys. This is Lucy, look. She's even wearing a pink jacket, you know. How is his bucket on have, you know? You're the biggest threat. The biggest threat. So you want to be put on the terrorist list like all the others, yeah? The difference between you and I for me is you're irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And I'm going to see you. Cheers. Watch your space, guys. See you in a bit. After seeing the video Emma Wells posted, imagine being on a train journey as a lone female and you see this staring at you filming you from a few seats away. Proud of yourself, you prick.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And Jess Gill added he's an actual freak. Imagine filming someone just going about their beach. business stalker behavior. Brendan O'Neill, I mean, this is really creepy behavior. Personally, and I obviously don't have the proof of this, but I don't believe it was a coincidence. I really don't. I mean, Femiola Wally is completely obsessed with Lucy Connolly, and then what he just so happens
Starting point is 00:52:19 to be on the same train carriage as her. But even if it was a coincidence, what's he doing, filming her on a tube carriage? on a train carriage, excuse me, posting it using the word terrorist. I mean, Brandon, she's not a terrorist. The poor woman served 12 months behind bars for a post on X. This whole thing is so absurd. I was genuinely shocked when I saw this. And Femi has behaved badly in a number of ways. And he's way too online. And he's always getting it into spats and same stupid thing. So it's not surprising in that sense, but it's, it's gone too far this time, because firstly, it's creepy. Men should not film women in public spaces without their permission.
Starting point is 00:53:10 That's creepy behaviour. Don't do it. I thought all men knew that, or they should do anyway. But then also, as you say, calling her a terrorist. I mean, I'm not a legal expert. That does seem to me very iffy. You can't just call people something that they are not. That is generally not allowed. even in a free society like ours is supposed to be, there are rules and there are limits. So I think he might have landed himself in hot water with this one. But is that kind of the witch hunting of Lucy Connolly that still takes place on certain sections of the kind of very online left
Starting point is 00:53:42 is really the whole thing is quite creepy. I mean, this is someone who was, as you say, spent 12 months in the clink, should never have gone there in the first place because all she did was write a tweet and then write a post and then quite swiftly take it down. It was a great unjust situation. Most normal people recognize that.
Starting point is 00:54:02 You shouldn't jail people for speech. And yet she's still being harassed by creepy weirdos on the left. I think it's gone too far. Yeah, it really has. I have to say, though, Andrew Neal, I'm not like the biggest fan of Andrew Neal. We had a bit of a falling out after GB News. But you know, sometimes he can really destroy someone on X.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I'm quite glad he's never actually done it to me. But he did it to fair me. it's just worth sharing. It's just worth sharing because it's so good. He wrote, and that was, this was just this week, by the way, because a family was going on at him about something to do with Brexit. And Andrew Nell replied, you're an irrelevant rather thick has been, and we will never communicate again, life too short. But before I banish you to social media irrelevance, at least as far as I'm concerned, when I hired Fraser Nelson to be editor of The Spectator in 2009, Brexit was an almost nobody's agenda, certainly not ours. We never discussed it at any stage. It just wasn't
Starting point is 00:54:56 an issue. When it certainly did become an issue, leading to the 2016 referendum, the decision to back breaks it was entirely that of Fraser and his team. I kept the proprietors out of it, and my only advice to Fraser was whatever side he decided to back to make the endorsement compelling, informed, and in the best traditions of The Spectator. By the way, it was a genius appointment back in 2009 even if I say so myself. Under Fraser, the Spectator, enjoyed the highest circulation, reputation for excellence and profits in its almost 200-year-old history. Now, Femmy, bugger off and never bother me again. And I just love that. I love that. But Brennan O'Neill, there's someone equally awful, and I do put them in the same category. I'm sure they would say that
Starting point is 00:55:38 this is racist, but I put them in the same category, Brennan, because I genuinely believe they are race baiters. And it's Dr. Scholar. And she's also just been destroyed, you know. I played this clip earlier in the week, Brennan. I don't know if you've kept across the whole thing with the Bafters and John Davidson, you know, he has Tourette's and he said the N word and the woke left who claimed they're all about compassion, just turned on him and said he must be racist. And it really upset me actually because I'd watch the movie and loved the movie and you really get an understanding about Tourette's and realize that this guy doesn't want to do this. Like he literally, I think, yelled out the C word or something when he was about to receive an award from the late Queen
Starting point is 00:56:21 Elizabeth the second. Like, it was awful. And Dr. Scholler, was particularly awful in her takedown of John Davidson. She said that he must be racist because if anyone had that N-word in their head, they would have to be racist. Anyway, she, I think, now has also had her sort of, a bit like what you said with Femmy, you know, it's a bit like this is the too far moment. And her whole reputation just collapsed on Piers Morgan uncensored overnight. I want to show you what happened. Then I'll get your reaction. But it's It's quite something. We're going to laugh about this, blow it off, or, you know, show some empathy.
Starting point is 00:57:03 You know, the word that they love to use in the entertainment industry, but they have no understanding of. And after listening to that from the doctor, I don't know how you're a doctor. That's the biggest mystery in life. I'm not a medical doctor. I've been kicked out of three high schools, but I don't know how the hell you became a doctor. But what a great country. What a great country you live in to hand out doctors to people who are. or woefully unqualified,
Starting point is 00:57:27 because that whole argument was a roller coaster. John Davidson was being celebrated. And everybody knows, everybody knows that anyone with Tourette's who says these kind of outbursts doesn't have any control or any bank of language or mean them. But you, rather than try to find that out, you kicked him when he was down. But for you to say that black actors should grow the F up,
Starting point is 00:57:53 for you to use those dismissive words, that's exactly why it came out. so angry when I saw other comments to address the bombastic or cascic of people like you that would say it is okay for black people to just deal with it because he has torrid syndrome which only explains how it happens it doesn't justify why it happens and racism does not require intent to be racist so what I accept that my ignorance in that moment harmed the community both you know black brown and white who have torrent and that is not my intention and my intention is irrelevant because the impact is real.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Much as I will take lectures from you, I'd rather shoot myself, frankly, because what you did to John Davidson, as I said at a start, was one of the most disgusting, one of the most disgusting attacks on a disabled person I have ever seen. I've ever seen he branded the poor man a racist because you're a race-baiting clown. Anyway, we weren't going to... Okay, whatever, whatever. I'm not listening to you. You've exposed yourself for what you are.
Starting point is 00:59:00 You're a vile race-baiting clown. I mean, Brendan, I don't agree with Piers-on-a-lot these days, but he got that right with Dr. Scholar. And I think this was her Jump the Shark moment. Yeah, it was. You know, she bullied a man with the disability. That's what we're talking about here. And I thought all decent people know that you should not do that.
Starting point is 00:59:24 She held him responsible for something that is beyond his control. He shouts out words. That's what Tourette's is. Everyone with a brain knows that. And yet she took to the internet and called him a racist. I mean, it was just disgusting. And this whole BAFTA's controversy, I think trying to cancel a man who has Tourette is a new low for the woke elites.
Starting point is 00:59:43 This really is a low for all of them. And, you know, I keep thinking to myself, a couple of months ago, you'll remember this case, Dan, when the nurse from Croydon, Jennifer Mel, she was let go from the hospital she worked out. She's a black nurse. She's been a hardworking nurse for more than 12 years. She was let go from the hospital
Starting point is 01:00:01 because she referred to a man in a dress as he. And this is a convict, actually. This is someone who is convicted of sexual assault who is taken to her hospital for treatment. The reason this is relevant is because that trans person also called her the N-word. He abused her racially while she was trying to give him treatment and she was the person who lost her job. I don't remember
Starting point is 01:00:29 any pushback whatsoever from the so-called anti-racists in relation to that. In fact, they probably saw that nurse as the bad person because they would consider her transphobic. So they can spare me all their lectures about how offensive the M word is. They can spare me all their posturing about how much they hate racism because we know there are many incidents in our society of real racism, real prejudice, real bigotry that they completely and utterly ignore. So to bully a man with a disability for using a word that he doesn't really have any control over that is really genuinely sickening. Now, Brennan O'Neill, the reason that I love your writing so much for Spiked Online and The Spectator is that it does make me think. And very often you are prepared to
Starting point is 01:01:16 go to places where others don't. And I'm I think really go against the mob, which is something that can be particularly difficult in our current media environment. And you did it this week over Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, the former prince, the former Duke of York, who most of us, in both the independent media and the mainstream media, are hammering for a whole load of reasons. Now, weirdly, your piece, I would usually completely agree with the sentiment of it. And I don't when it comes to Andrew. And I want to explain why. But first, I just want to take people into what you said, because it was beautifully articulated. And as I say, in a lot of ways, I do agree with the philosophy of what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:02:09 because I hate these media witch hunts having been subjected to one myself. And you literally headlined at the hunting of Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor. and you argued, what do we want from Andrew? When will the mass stalking of him like a wounded deer finally be satiated? When his head is on a spike? When all memory of him is scrubbed from the public record, I get it. Andrew is far from a sympathetic character. He strikes me as a boorish, pompous and unlikely to take kindly to Republican riffraff like me.
Starting point is 01:02:39 But so what? Don't even the disagreeable deserve fair treatment and the presumption of innocence. The hunting of Andrew has gone too far. Admitted, you can feel it. His arrest this week on suspicion of misconduct in public office unleashed yet another round of prideful animus for the former prince. Social media was a riot of malicious glee. Then came that photograph of him in the back of his car following his release from custody.
Starting point is 01:03:02 He looked startled, haunted, frightened. The mob lapped it up. They wrung pleasure from his pain. We don't even know if Andrew is guilty. He hasn't even been charged. will I be denounced as a sniveling apologist for the venal elites if I humbly suggest we let justice take its course. Right now, Andrew is as innocent. Of the crime of misconduct and public officers, you are, dear reader. Praying for the swift ruination of a wealthy former royal is no better than dreaming of the stocks for a poor woman suspected of stealing bread.
Starting point is 01:03:32 In both cases, a twisted clamour for vengeance drowns out the enlightened ideals of justice. Republic, the anti-monarchy pressure group, has been giddily whipping up anti- Andrew sentiment. As a lifelong Republican, I find their antics shameful. The case for a republic should be made positively. It should be about appealing to the good moral sense of the everyday Brit, whom else Republicans trust to choose for themselves their head of state. In marshalling mob heresy against a former prince, a hearsay against a former prince, Republic is betraying Republican principles.
Starting point is 01:04:05 They're playing the very games of court gossip and medieval war. finger pointing that Republicans once wanted to consign to the history books. Then there is the King's behaviour. His perfunctory remarks on Andrew's arrest feel cold, unbecoming of a brother. There is no expression of fraternal concern, no plea for calm in the digital realm, no defence of Andrew from the truthless accusations. That bubble like effluent and the cesspit of social media, I have five brothers. If one of them were going through what Andrew was going through, I'd be right in his corner insisting on fairness and truth. Your Majesty, I know you have your difference. with Andrew, but you know what they say, me against my brother, but my brother and I against the
Starting point is 01:04:46 world. And Brendan, look, this was so interesting to me on so many levels. And actually, I do agree with you about how this has gone too far in the media. And indeed, this weekend, I do have a special episode coming up with Lady Victoria Harvey, because the reason why Lady Victoria has been pilloried and went on Pearce Morgan's uncensored show and literally had her microphone turned off, and the irony of all ironies, because she was actually censored by peers, is because she is standing by Andrew and she is the only one prepared to do so. But here's where I disagree with you and why I think the Andrew case is very different and I want to have a discussion with you about it. If it were not for constant media pressure, and yes, you could argue a witch hunt on Andrews since 2011,
Starting point is 01:05:37 all of his alleged crimes would have been covered up. There were. would be no Epstein files. Like, with this case, Brennan, it's so different because all of these allegations were basically made public in 2011 and multiple times the police refused to even open an investigation right. And we now know there are 10 open. So the standards were different because Andrew was protected in a way that someone like me, going through a witch hunt, where the police immediately decided to open a spurious investigation were not. Do you see what I mean? It's like, without the witch hunt here, everyone would have got away with everything.
Starting point is 01:06:21 You know, Dan, I can't tell you how much flack I've had for that piece. I mean, it has been relentless. I mean, I'm not on X. I've never been on X. But every time I open my Instagram page, there's someone calling me a paedophile. I mean, it is just insane. Which is nuts, because the piece was incredible. Yeah, it's nuts, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:06:41 And that's the thing that worries me. The reason I'm saying that is not to try and get your viewers to sympathise with me or anything like that. It's because it's the culture around this issue that worries me. So I think you're right. There are loads of questions for Andrew to answer. And misconduct in public office is quite serious. It has, as we know, it has a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. So it's a serious thing.
Starting point is 01:07:04 and there are questions for him to answer about the foolishness of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, even after Epstein was found guilty of serious offences, allegedly forwarding documents to him when he was UK trade envoy. That's a very foolish thing to do if he did do that. So there are questions to answer, and you're right, there was a culture of him getting away with it for too long. And I think that's where the media has an important role to put pressure on the establishment, to say, listen, just answer these questions. We need to know the truth. So I agree with all of that. And that's sometimes a good role that even the mainstream media can play at times, where they put pressure on the elites to be open about things that are going on. But I don't like the more
Starting point is 01:07:45 ruthless, gleeful culture that surrounds it. The thing that's worrying me right now is not only that people are saying, we want to know the truth about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, but they're also saying, get rid of him, cast him out into obscurity, destroy his life. He's the worst man who ever lived. I did a discussion about this on Australian TV last night. They've stitched me up a little bit because they presented me as a pro-Andrew person, which I don't think I am. I'm pro-justice, not pro- Andrew. But they said at the start of the show that everyone in the world hates Prince Andrew, except this one person, and then they brought me on supposedly to defend him. But it does sometimes feel that way. But there is a problem with, I think, when it becomes this global
Starting point is 01:08:33 demonization. It becomes this global move, not only to say tell us the truth, but also to say, destroy this man's life. That's what makes me uncomfortable. And the reason it makes me uncomfortable is precisely because of what happened to you, Dan, what's happened to other people, in the public eye, people who haven't committed any crimes at all, or who just have the wrong opinion. You know, we know that we live in the era of the council culture. We live in an era of the mob, the intolerant, usually foe left mob, which goes after people and demands their scalp and tries to silence them and tries to destroy them, in fact, tries to completely cancel them from public life. So anything that has the whiff of that makes me feel uncomfortable, because I don't want to
Starting point is 01:09:18 give any leeway to that culture. And that's really what I'm trying to get out here. Yeah, and me too. And that's why I wanted to discuss it with you today. And it is also the reason that I wanted to have Lady Victoria on, because I see the way she's been put on the mainstream media as like the woman in the stocks. You know, it's like, oh, LBC will have her on so they can make her look like a stupid fool because she's standing by Andrew. And she did make the point on this Pear's Morgan show episode
Starting point is 01:09:44 that actually, well, do you want Andrew to be the next Caroline Flack? And I do think that is a fair question. But I guess where I come from is that it's disgusting that there has been this cover up, for 15 years. And the problem is, Brendan, the police have a lot to answer for in all of this, because so often now the police only move when the media move. And that's so wrong. Like, why do we have police forces completely dictated by what, by media hysteria, basically? And I use the example of Russell Brand where, like, all of a sudden, the Metropolitan Police were releasing
Starting point is 01:10:27 statements all of the times and we urge any woman who's ever had to be. And we urge any woman who's ever had, anything to do with Russell Brand essentially to come forward. And we saw the same thing happen over the past week with Andrew, right, in regards to the Royal Protection Officers who have been guarding Andrew, you know, for his entire life and who they had never bothered to interview or look into the details about his visits to Jeffrey Epstein's house in New York in 2011. And all of a sudden, they were releasing a statement, sort of saying, we're calling on police protection officers now, sorry, Royal Protection Officers now to come forward. And it is all because the police very often just feel like they have to be doing something
Starting point is 01:11:07 because of media hysteria. And I hate that. I hate that. I think it is so damaging to our society. Yeah, I agree with that. And you know, one of the reasons I'm a Republican, I've always been a Republican, and I'm sure many of your viewers aren't Republicans. I'm certainly not.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah, I've had lots of healthy discussions with people over the past. A lot of people are responded to. of my piece by saying, what do you mean you're a Republican? That's the thing they're most shocked about. But one of the reasons I am a Republican is because I don't like the institution of royalty. And one of the reasons I don't like it is because it does confer privilege on this family. It does often protect them from what the rest of us have to answer for if we commit a moral error or commit an offence. So it does have that tendency to protect them from, you know, the equality of justice. You know, we're all supposed to be equal before.
Starting point is 01:11:59 the law. And what that means is firstly, I think it means that Andrew does deserve the same fair treatment as the rest of us should expect. But it also means that the royal family should be open to interrogation in the way that normal people are as well. So that's one of that, so I agree that there has been too much shielding of Andrew from legitimate questions about his problematic behaviour. And that does need to be taken down. But I think it's, it's, the issue I have is just that it has become this very salacious endeavor where you have people around the world in fact it has become like a witch on you know ding dong the witch is dead let's get him let's push him over the edge and i think victoria is right to be concerned about his mental health i think she's right to i don't think he's
Starting point is 01:12:46 on the internet looking at all this stuff i certainly hope he is because he completely insane um but i do think he is arguably the most beleaguered man in britain right now it must be profound unpleasant. And all I'm saying is there must be a way that we can hold him to account for what he may have done wrong, but also not destroy his life. And I just finding that balance, I think, is quite important not to defend him, but to defend the values of a civil society. Totally. And usually, as I say, I would 100% agree. And I do agree with the philosophy, but the problem is, I'm also just very conscious that for 15 years, there has been. been a cover-up in this case and everything that's been investigated now, or literally all of it.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Like, it was in the newspapers 15 years ago and the police did nothing, not a thing. Well, you know, the police, one problem with the police is that they are very political. That's a real issue we have at the moment. We have a politicised police force that will investigate certain things if it's woke to do so and ignore other things because it doesn't fit into the moral narrative. So ripping away the political bias from the police, including in relation to Andrew, that's a very important thing to do. Yeah, no, it is. It is incredibly important. Now, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have disgraced themselves on this Middle Eastern tour.
Starting point is 01:14:12 And they've disgraced themselves in so many ways. But of course, what the mainstream media has completely ignored is the fact that there are now clear correlations between the Sussex couple backing the Hammond. mass message. And I'm not exaggerating by saying that. I'm not just talking about the crazed channel four news interview that we will come to in a second. I'm talking about this direct reporting, which proves that the Jordanian Youth Center visited by Harry and Megan was run by an NGO whose staff shared post glorifying Hamas terrorists. And as Nail Gardner said, Megan and Harry are either immensely stupid or just don't care or both. The damage they are doing to the royal family is growing, and they should be cast adrift. And this honest reporting exclusive, I have been disgusted to see it
Starting point is 01:15:09 completely ignored by the MSM. So I want you to watch it now. Prince Harry and Meghan took a trip to Jordan this week, hosted by the World Health Organization. They visited a refugee camp, had meetings with representatives from the UN and WHO. But it was their last visit. A youth centre operated by Jordanian NGO that raised eyebrows. The NGO called Questco presents itself as a youth-focused humanitarian organisation in Jordan. But a quick look into the social media of their staff paints a very different picture. Hamas propaganda videos. Graphics celebrating rocket attacks from Gaza, imagery showing Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine and erasing Israel all together.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Pictures of masked Hamas terrorists posts with extremist messaging. Megan the Duchess of Sussex has built her entire brand on advocating for women's rights and dignity. If things are wrong and there is a lack of justice and there's an inequality, then someone needs to say something and why not me? Then why is she visiting and promoting a charity linked to terrorist supporters? Individuals who support the atrocities Hamas committed against Israelis, including sexual violence against women of all ages on October 7. If the Sussexes believe this visit was purely humanitarian, they owe the public an explanation.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And a promise to do better vetting next time. Supporting Palestinian civilians is legitimate. But supporting organisations whose staff glorified terrorists is not. Well, of course. But guess what happens? Prince Harry agrees to a last minute interview with Dr. Tedros, the corrupted head of the World Health Organization, on the hard left Channel 4 News in Jordan. And the Channel 4 News reporter Paul McNamara does not ask Prince Harry
Starting point is 01:17:01 any questions about the controversy surrounding the British Royal Family, but also doesn't ask any questions about the visit to this NGO linked to Hamas. Instead, Harry is given a platform to effectively echo Hamas talking points. Watch this. Yesterday we were with you at a hospital where children are still being brought in who have only recently been injured in Gaza. How important is it that the world continues to pay attention here? I think it's important for everybody. It's not just for me.
Starting point is 01:17:37 It's not just for Dr Tedros. I think the entire world has spoken up. And there's a lot of stuff in the news. It goes in an incredible pace. And what's been happening in that region has been going on for a long time. and it drops out of the news. So I think it was a really important time for us to collaborate and come here and shine a light and focus on the very real humanitarian catastrophe that has happened and continues.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I mean, the guy knows nothing, of course, but he keeps saying the world has spoken as if, you know, as if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is just a set issue, I think proves he lives in a hard left echo chamber now. Watch. We were with you this morning at a charity that is getting food into Gaza and is feeding a million people a day. But they're saying they're not getting anywhere near enough food. Medical aid isn't getting in. Journalists aren't getting in. Would you like to see an increase on all those things going in? Would you like to see independent journalists being let into Gaza?
Starting point is 01:18:46 I think again the world has spoken many, many times. So I think yes, everything that I've heard, and everything that I've seen, especially from World Central Kitchen, what we heard this morning on the live link, was that the food, the aid corridors need to be opened. They're currently not. And I know Dr. Tedros has already talked extensively about food and medical supplies, the rules, the basic needs for full access for humanitarian organizations to be able to deliver that aid to the people that need it the most. Dr. Stedros, Duke Sussex, thank you very much joining us.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Thanks, Paul. Thanks for coming here. Thank you for. Brendan O'Neill is the author of After the Pogrom, 7th of October, Israel and the Crisis of Civilization. Brendan, you know a heck of a lot about this issue, and you know how corrupted the mainstream media have become on it too. But to see Prince Harry literally visit an organisation as the Duke of Sussex, which has staff members openly propagandising for Hamas that be exposed and it's received zero coverage in the mainstream media honestly none, just just none
Starting point is 01:20:03 then he turns up for an interview on Channel 4 News is basically allowed to parrot Hamas talking points without being questioned once about the link to that NGO. I mean, I just found it utterly appalling. Yeah. Completely appalling. And this is a very good example of what you were just talking about, which there is a tendency sometimes to protect certain members of the royal family
Starting point is 01:20:29 from the kind of interrogation that most normal people would receive if they were to behave in a similar way. We can see that with the soft-sooping interview that Channel 4 News did with Harry, the way, as you say, there's been very little coverage of this in the media, and it's a very serious matter. You know, let's not forget what happened on 7th of October. this was the worst mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust, carried out by Hamas, which is an organisation founded with the express intention of killing Jewish people. So we're talking about a fascistic movement.
Starting point is 01:21:01 And to have any association with any think tank or any charity that has expressed support in any way for Hamas is a really bad thing. And I agree with Nal Gardner, they're either stupid or they don't care or maybe it's a bit of both. but questions do need to be asked. This is very, very serious. And a lot of Jewish people and other people will be saying, how did this happen? How did they let this happen? Why are we not having a reckoning with this fact as well?
Starting point is 01:21:29 Why are they not explaining themselves? That silence that follows scandals like this is often the worst part of it because we never get the answers that we need. But Brendan, the thing is, I mean, I agree with all of that, but the thing is this trip, which the Sussex has claimed, And this was their actual briefing was not political. They said it was pro-family, pro-children, pro-peace and decency.
Starting point is 01:21:57 That's what they claimed. But, I mean, they didn't meet any of the victims of October the 7th. For example, any victims of Hamas, I mean, it looked completely one-sided to me. Yeah. and that is political. So for all their denials, this is not politics, this is just humanitarianism,
Starting point is 01:22:23 it is political. It's of a peace with a kind of bourgeois obsession with Israel. That's what they're tapping into. You know, this is a couple who are absolutely obsessed with maintaining their moral reputations, with proving their virtue,
Starting point is 01:22:39 with signaling their virtue to everyone who will listen. I mean, they're constantly looking for the next hot issue through which they can demonstrate what wonderful humanitarian people they are, whether it's the wildfires in California or this issue now, the Palestinian question, which has become incredibly popular amongst the activist classes of the Western world. So they're always latching onto things.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And it's the same driver every time. The real motivation for Harry and Megan, in my view, is that they want to do self-promotion. This is about promoting themselves as these great say, of planet Earth, who will save us from climate change, save us from Israel, save us from all the problems. They have this outsized narcissistic view of themselves as the two most wonderful people on Earth, and it really is quite grating to see it. And I think this is of a piece entirely with how they've been behaving for the past few years. Do you think they pose a danger for the British Royal Family? I mean, for me, the upset is that they still go to these tours, you know, which are fake
Starting point is 01:23:45 Royal Tour is clearly political as the Duke of Sussex, as the Duchess of Sussex. And personally, I think this is why King Charles needs to take a much harder line, which is something that Prince William has been advocating for. I mean, I would say strip the titles you see altogether. I would have said that after Harry published that book, because to me, that was really shocking. Because this is a man, Harry and Megan, are always whanging on about their privacy and how they don't want any intrusion into their lives. Leave us alone. Stop, stop peering into our lives. And yet then he writes spare and it tells you everything about private conversations he had with the king or private fights he had with William. Who said what? Who pushed who? He says things about Camilla that she would
Starting point is 01:24:34 undoubtedly want to keep private. So he's more than happy to intrude on his own family's privacy. He's more than happy to spill the beans on how he relates to that his family's. and what they've said and what they've done. But then he goes nuts if anyone in the media dares to ask questions about what Harry and Megan are up to. So the hypocrisy and the double standards are off the scale. And I just think that if Harry wants to be taken seriously, if Harry and Megan want to be taken seriously,
Starting point is 01:25:01 they should do less of this performative virtue, which no one's buying anymore. They should stop going on about the intrusion of their privacy and then make all these Netflix shows inviting people into their lives. They've got to get a handle, get a grip, get some perspective, and do something useful with their lives for once. Couldn't agree more. Could not agree more.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Brendan O'Neill, you know I love having you on outspoken. Thank you so much. And of course, Brendan is the author of After the Pogrom, 7th of October, Israel and the Crisis of Civilization. Brendan, thank you so much. But guess what? There are two members of the British Royal Family who are nominated to be the worst Britain in the world this week. It's Prince Harry and Sarah Ferguson. You could argue it hasn't been a good week for Ginger, former members of the British Royal
Starting point is 01:25:49 Family. So we're going to find out who is the worst very shortly. There are the four nominees, by the way. This is when we put your union jackasses from across the week, head to head to be named the worst Britain in the world. From Monday, it was Sarah Ferguson because of the Epstein Files revelations. Tuesday, Shemima Began, because she's making a bid to come back to the United Kingdom. Wednesday, Laila Cunningham after walking off Piers Morgan uncensored, and Thursday, Prince Harry,
Starting point is 01:26:17 for that terrible Middle Eastern tour. We've had over 60,000 votes. You are all incredible. Thank you so much. Let me get to your feedback, though. Harry GW says, Layla might be one of the most insufferable people I've ever had the misfortune of listening to. Cynthia Bishop says Harry is a danger to the future, strip his titles and give him privacy. Get him out of the line to the throne. Oh my goodness, I'm with you and you heard me just say that. Southside Soul says Shemima Begham. The acts that she has admitted to, which enforced the removal of her citizenship, is far worse than anyone else on the list. I'm not sure, however, if you can remove one's citizenship legally if their place of birth is Britain. I'm not sure if barring entry to the land of one's birth is sufficient. A jail sentence of life without parole would
Starting point is 01:27:10 suffice as she is now free to roam the world and live happily ever after if she so wishes. Cucumb beer, LA 161 says Shemima Began will always be the worst Britain and I have a horrid, horrid feeling she'll win eventually. Oh my god, I have that feeling too. I really do. Abby Smith says such a difficult choice, Dan, want to pick them all. Harry is just Megan's little puppet on a string and Shemima is not a Britain. So it has to be the nasty piece of work that is Fergie, but I can't stand any of them. Okay, so very strong opinions today, and I do not blame you for that. Let's now reveal the results. In fourth position with 8% of the vote, Leila Cunningham. In third position with 21% of the vote, Prince Harry. And it was a pretty tight race for quite a few
Starting point is 01:28:03 hours there, but in the end, she pulled ahead. The runner up with 33% of the vote, Shamin. Me Begham, but the worst Britain in the world this week, Sarah Ferguson, Fergie, the former Duchess of York. Thank you so much, the 60,000 of you who voted. I just love that with such a community. It is so cool and I so appreciate it. I'd love you to join our community on Substack too, by the way, because we're heading over there now for all the rest of the week's Royal News with Royal YouTube Sensation P. Diner.
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