Dan Wootton Outspoken - ISLAMIST CIVIL WAR ON UK STREETS IGNORED BY MSM AS STARMER BRANDS SARAH POCHIN "RACIST"

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

An Islamist takeover of the streets of Britain, as the elite class ignore growing warnings that civil war is now inevitable. If the dangerous woke liberal losers on the hard left think they’re allied with this mob, then they’ve got another thing coming as the scenes being ignored by the MSM are horrendous and represent a breakdown in society. And there’s clear Two Tier Justice after Narinder Kaur defied police orders, yet was not arrested. Dan will uncover the Islamist takeover in his Digest, as the Labour government is mired in crisis over the manhunt of Hadush Kebatu, collapse of the rape gang inquiry amid Sadiq Khan’s cover up, and appointment of hard left Starmer hater Lucy Powell as the party’s new deputy leader. Then the best analysis with our husband and wife duo The Hamiltons – broadcaster and author Christine, and former Tory minister and ex-UKIP leader Neil. PLUS: The Prime Minister wades into the Sarah Pochin racism scandal, even though the Reform UK MP is literally telling the truth about the representation of black and Asion people in ads. AND: Axed Mike Graham is replaced by his best friend on Talk, as Mark Dolan kicks off a public campaign to replace him. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s bizarre Halloween stunt aims to dispel the growing rumours surrounding the troubled Sussex family. But has it worked? We’ll analyse as we team up with the Royal News Network. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 345. And Islamist takeover of the streets of Britain as the elite class ignore growing warnings that civil war is now inevitable. And if you're going to be, no, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, God. then they've got another thing coming. There's no need to that. We're on the side to side, bro. No, we're no. Yes, we are, bro.

The scenes being roundly ignored by the MSM are horrendous and represent a breakdown in British society. Um, yeah, well they're running down now. Yeah, so as you can tell, quite comedically, so I've just been beamed in the face. Oh, women! Sabar Pits! Oh, no! Oh shit!

Oh shit! Donnie, what was it in the floor? He's pissed! It went on over me. I thought it was. And there's clear two-tier justice. And there's clear two-tier justice. after Narenda court defied police orders, yet was not arrested.

I want her arrested. She is a member of stand up to racism, and she is in the exclusion zone. Arrest her. I'll show you the Islamist takeover of our streets in my digest next, as the Labour government is mired. In crisis over the manhunt of Habush Kabuto, collapse of the rape gang inquiry amid Sadiq Khan's cover-up an appointment of hard-left stama hater Lucy Powell

as the party's new deputy leader. Then, the best analysis we saw them. They're our husband and wife duo. The Hamilton's broadcaster and author Christine and former Tory minister and ex-UKIP leader Neil. Also coming up on the show today, the Prime Minister wades into the Sarah Pochin racism scandal, even though the Reform UK MP is literally telling the truth.

about the representation of black and Asian people in ads. Axt Mike Graham is replaced by his best friend on talk as Mark Dolan kicks off a public campaign to replace him. And King Charles disgracefully blames the late Queen Elizabeth II for the Prince Andrew scandal as the disgraced Duke and his wife Fergie demand two new mansions from the monarchy as this royal crisis deepens.

Then, of course, we've got the uncanceled aftershow over on Substack. And we're looking into Megan Markle and Prince Harry's bizarre Halloween stunt, which aims to dispel the growing rumours surrounding the troubled Sussex family, but hasn't worked. We're going to team up with the Royal News Network. That is after the main show over on Substack, www. www. outspoken.com, if you want to watch there. We'll also reveal the first greatest Britain and Junie and Jackass of the week by the end of the show.

All chosen by you and you can vote for the worst Britain in the world today right now in our live chat on YouTube. Here are your nominees. Lucy Powell, nominated by Thomas W3033, who says she was sacked about a month ago for not being good enough to be in the cabinet. She is now the deputy leader of the Labour Party. All you need to know, really. David Lammy, nominated by Kaz Quinn for the weekend game of Where's Cabab. When will they actually become accountable for their disastrous go at leading? And West Streeting, nominated by Darren Donaldson, who says he went for Reform MP, Sarah Pochin, after her observations about the UK advert diversity. Meanwhile, he has previously threatened to murder others on social media, another Labour Party hypocrite. So three Labour big beasts for you to choose from today. Let me know your comments throughout the show. I will reveal the winner and deliver your feedback before we go today, so do stay with us. But now, let's go.

We cannot look away for another moment. The MSM and elite class might pretend civil war isn't close, but the scenes on the streets of East London and Southampton over the weekend suggest it's already here. Islamists are attempting a takeover as our politicians and police look the other way. Why? Guramette Singh of Urban Scoop said, well, others were too afraid to. This is the only threat to society we need to be concerned about. Nicole Lampard observed, UKIP wasn't allowed

to marchantower hamlets, but these guys dressed as terrorists were. And Adam Brooks made the abundantly fair point. Let's be honest now, if a group of right-leaning white men, 60 to 70 men, dressed in military-style outfits and covered their faces on a protest, the headlines the next day would be of a far-right group or threat. But this won't even make the papers, in my opinion. Well, it didn't make the papers. It didn't make the news bulletins. So I'm now going to show you the sectarian takeover of the UK

in what used to be the heart of working-class Cockney, East London. They came specifically target Muslim. They said, we're coming on a crusade. They said that we need to take back ground streets. This is a show of dealing with the revolution. Even if they don't come today, we stand firm to let them know that if you come, we will stand firm. Any time.

And we will be ready to defend our massaged, to defend our elders, to defend our women, to defend our community. Yes! We're going to come in a crusade. We want to go into your area to cause your problem. You're coming into our home. Yes. And you want to cause us problem. What's what we were standing up?

coming up for our legitimate right. Today is a day of us from Mouethe, what are up here? Here we got a problem with. Today is a day. And I'm saying, I'll say, No, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah. Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah. What's going on my people, people, as you can see, I'm live, with all the brothers behind me.

At the beginning of the turnout, what a few hundred hundred of the brothers, everyone's ready. not for violence or hate. They're here to stand ground on our own area, which is Tower Hamlet. On our own area. Perhaps it was this one video that summed up most how the dangerous woke liberal losers of the hard left who think they are allied with this mob have got another thing coming.

The Mercian pointed out the exchange. Liberal, we're on the same side, brof. Muslim, no, we're not. Liberal, yes, we are. Wright tried to warn liberals, and they hated us for it. Their eventual groveling apology should never be accepted. Watch for yourself. There's no need to do that.

We're on the side to side, bro. No, we're no. Yes, we are, bro. They're not on your side, you stupid idiot. They hate gay men. They hate women. They are not. On your side.

As Lawrence Fox said, Britain is heading for civil war. The Islamists will not need the support of useful idiot leftists for much longer. In fact, they will be the first to be purged of history as anything to go by. I just want to show you that video again, because it really is so extraordinary. There's no need to that. We're on the side to side, bro. Yes, we are, bro. As the MSM obsess over trying to describe reform UK MP Sarah Pochin as racist for stating the facts about anti-white racist advertising in the UK, Nigel Farage today tried to turn the attention to those scenes in East London.

Well, you know, you raised that point. And if you really want to talk about racism over the weekend, then, you know, whilst I've already said, I thought Sarah's comments were ugly and out of place, they're not intentioned to be. deeply unpleasant. There was proper racism happening in Tower Hamlets over the weekend. But no-was asked a question about that until you. None of the broadcasters are even interested in that. And I doubt they'll show the pictures. Yeah, outright intimidation to the point of sort of basically urging the mass wipeout

of huge numbers of Jewish people. I have to say, Noah, I thought the scenes of those men, in many cases masks on women brushed aside not welcome to be any part of it I actually think it's one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen in my whole life

and what a telling moment the leftist stand up to racism were there with their banners and one says to one of these mass marches were on the same side to which the response comes no we're not maybe one day

the deluded left will wake up to realise they've been with very strange bedfellows organisations like queers for Palestine spring to mind pretty quickly no I thought the scenes were absolutely

terrifying it was like a foreign invading army marching through our streets and I defy anyone in this room to tell me that's wrong. I really genuinely do. Foreign invading army, I completely agree. And remember those Islamist protests in Whitechapel were allowed to go ahead, even though the UKIP march was banned and moved to central London. When Narenda Kaur of the opposing stand-up to racism group turned up, ignoring police orders. As UKIP leader Nick Tenconi put it,

Narenda Kor breached the section 14 placed onto the stand-up to racism rabble. The MET police failed to arrest her. Had we entered Tower Hamlets, we would have undoubtedly been arrested. The MET must arrest Naurinda to prove they are not too teared. Watch what happened. Narenda, there's a section 12 or section 14 in place. As a member of stand-up to racism, you're breaking the law. You're not allowed to be here, Narinda.

No, the law enforcement have said you aren't welcome to be here. I want her arrested. She is a member of stand up to racism and she is in the exclusion zone. Arrest her. Arrest her. Arrest her. Arrest her. Arrest her.

If I was to go to Whitechapel now, I would be arrested. Stand up to racism. Have they met police authorization. They are not allowed in this zone. Narinda Carr arrest her. And they didn't. Which is just all the proof that we need of two-tier Britain, isn't it? Now, Narinda's race baiting and attention-seeking, purposefully stoking violence. That saw actually no evidence or action from the police. She posted, they were chanting, get Narendra off our streets. So funny. Love how they were more interested in me than little Nick from UKIP. They tried to get me arrested but managed to just get the police to protect me. Thank you. Watch.

So I am here at Hyde Park and we just carry. So I am here at Hyde Park and we just stand up against racism. We're protesting against UK but they're making arrests of peaceful protesters. I actually don't know why they're arresting. Just women are standing there, arresting them. Apparently we're not allowed to be here but UK before a right group are allowed to mort. but we've got to get lost.

These were not peaceful protests. In fact, the hard left mob showed their true colours with this attack on young Bob of Turning Point UK. Yeah, well, they're running down now. Yeah, so as you can tell, quite comedically. So I've just been beaned in the face for no reason. It was a family. Her mother was encouraging it,

and I think this is the generation that we're raising. The fact is that people genuinely believe that the next generation of fascists are marching down to marble art for no reason whatsoever beyond the fact that they disagree with them. I think the divisiveness on the left is more in line with the fascists of 1940s Germany than, of course, the right are. I think we're incredibly civil. We're the ones who kind of evolved civil discourse, but unfortunately these people here are violent dogs. Beans, that's just the waste of food, and considering the left talk about wealth inequality, I majorly appreciate that fact. On Sunday, the left-wing hate mob moved to Southampton, where Nick Tenconi was targeted for continuing his campaign against the Islam takeover.

Patriots, who opposes our message, anti-extremism, anti-Islamism, and anti-communism, who opposes our message, these people, communists. Those subversives who want Britain shut down. These people must go. Is the Miss invaders and the communists who dare call us racists and Nazis. These people want open borders. They've got to go home.

Patriotic rage. Southampton, ready to kick off. These people, they've got to go. As young Bob reporting from the scene pointed out, a left-wing agitator hurled a bottle of piss at the Southampton Patriots. When Danny Tomo tried to chase down the thug, he was pepper sprayed, and then another bear can was thrown. This is what the left calls peaceful protests.

Watch this horrifying urine attack on Tommy Robinson ally, Danny. Keep back down! Keep back down! Keep back down! He peck down! He peck down! He cleared! You are!

You are! You are? I'm not telling you. Danny, what was it in the floor, mate? I thought it was. Danny, what was it in the floor? He's pissed! It went on over me.

I thought it was. He said it went all over him. He said it went all over him. So let's be clear what's going on. Paul Embry has put it powerfully. This is the northern islandisation of British politics. There are emerging and striking parallels between events in the province and on the mainland. As he writes, the status quo has failed.

Our country is slowly underdeveloping. Everyone knows it. The economy is shafted. Public services are broken. Our borders are being overrun. And our infrastructure is in a state of disrepair. We don't build anything and we don't make anything. Meanwhile, there is a deepening sense of social disintegration in our communities.

The air of decline permeates our land, and with it comes an increasing awareness that if radical change of the economic, social and cultural kind doesn't come about quickly, it may be too late. As events in Northern Ireland proved, no party, not even ones that have dominated the political scene for so long, are immune from the wrath of the voters. Sometimes the collapse is quick and unexpected. Throw in the flags and rise of communal secretarianism

and the emerging parallels between politics in Britain and the province become starker yet. We could well be facing the northern islandisation of Britain in more ways than one. And think all this was going on this weekend amid complete and utter chaos and incompetence as this Labour government set free the country's most infamous sex offender, Habush Koboto, the epine illegal migrant who caused all of the summer unrest outside migrant hotels

in circumstances, by the way, that I simply do not believe. But it was disgusting. The whole thing was disgusting. As Adam Brooks revealed, the family of the 14-year-old victim were not even told that this scumbag who is in prison or was in prison for sexually assaulting their daughter was on the loose watch so the father of the 15 year old that was sexually assaulted in june as asked me to read this statement personally from him as a father i am completely broken that the man who sexually assaulted my 14 year old daughter just four months ago was accidentally released from prison on the streets again. The trauma and torment my daughter has suffered since this assault has

really hurt myself and my family. She was slowly starting to get some of her confidence back as recently started seeing her closest friends and been back in school. Friday's news has caused her so much stress and anxiety she's seeing him again in the high road and him recognising her. I'm really worried for my daughter's mental health and well-being because of this assault. This man is a real danger to young women and children and for him to be wrongly released and walking the streets freely just four months after carrying out two sexual assaults, only five weeks after being sentenced, all because of a system failure on Friday, is unbelievably irresponsible. Myself and my family feel massively let down and infuriated

by HMP Chelmsford, the police, the justice system and our Labour government. They have all Failed. As you should, it was an absolute disgrace. And do you think I believe the official version of events provided by David Lammy? Like, hell I do. Yet still the lefties took the wrong stand. Yeah, I just think it's terribly uncharitable. And look, there are going to be some bad ex.

That's just indisputable. And we're seeing one of them escaping prison today. But the vast majority of them, chances are going to be people escaping horrible situations that are completely unimaginable to any of us who are lucky enough people in Britain. And I think we need a degree of compassion towards those people to do the right thing, process their claims if they are successful to integrate them in society and they feel not successful to move them on elsewhere.

Okay, my compassion, I have to say, is with a 14-year-old goal that was assorted by this person. If you are joining us now, it is... Correct, Don Nisemis. As Liz Kershaw said, it's so easy to be a migrant hugger when you're too posh, to be affected by their crimes. and we all know something must change. Was accidentally released by the authorities, the police have finally found him.

Stama says that he is appalled that this vile sex offender was loose on our streets. That's odd, because thanks to Stama's own reforms, sex offenders like this will never go to jail in the first place. There will be hundreds of Kebatos, and they'll be coming to a street near you. But the scandal of these migrant hotels just gets worse today, as Ross Clark reported, if we haven't already passed a watershed of public opinion on the issue of legal migration, today's report into the growing scandal of asylum hotels is surely it. The report by the Commons Home Affairs Committee condemns the home offices failed, chaotic and expensive system of housing migrants in asylum hotels,

cost of which was allowed to soar from 4.5 billion to 15.3 billion as a result of poorly negotiated contracts. And in one case, a failure to collect 46 million pounds of revenue, it was due under a profit-sharing arrangement. Total incompetence and corruption. Yet Labor, Labour has now elected this woman to replace Angela Raina as deputy leader. This woman, Lucy Powell, who you should remember dismissed the Pakistani Muslim rape gang scandal

as a racist dog whistle. Or the documentary on Channel 4 about rape gangs. Oh, we want to blow that little trumpet now, do we? Yeah. There is a real issue. Let's get that dog whistle out, shall we? I think Lucy Powell is a repeat offender with this sort of thing is concerned. I mean, there was a set to, with Andrew Neal, on what was then the daily politics,

just in the wake of the Manchester Arena bomb, which is a Manchester MP, and he just asks a straight question, you know, how bad is the problem of Islamist extremism in Manchester? How serious is the problem of Islamist radicalisation in Manchester? Well, I'm not sure that this is the right moment to totally go into that because I don't even want to ascribe what has happened to the Islam faith. She basically tells him off, we shouldn't be pointing the fingers, any particular community, which is a repulsive response to one of the most horrendous Islamist attacks we've ever seen, but also, frankly, dim. She obviously didn't even know what the word Islamist meant. She obviously didn't even realise that he wasn't pointing the finger at ordinary British Muslims in Manchester.

or anyone else. He was talking about the most deadly terror threat that we faced then, now and for many years. There's that, you know, herself, many members of the Labour Party sort of on a CV level, seemed very impressive. But just aside from holding all the prejudices and the towards ordinary people, the willful blindness towards crimes like the grooming gangs are also just incredibly thick. So in Stama posted after her appointment, congratulations Lucy Powell. They was newly elected Deputy Lee. Lucy has always been a proud defender of Labor values, and that is exactly what we need at this moment. Together we will fight for Britain for decency and national renewal. I was able to ratio him

with the very simple reply, you just sacked her. FFS. Does an honest word ever come out of your mouth. But I know the answer to that. We all know the answer to that. And it's the lies from Labor, which is why there has been no reckoning over Sadiq Khan's revolting rape gang cover-up in London as police are set to reopen 9,000 cases. Yes, you heard that right, 9,000, as Survivor Sammy Woodhouse put it.

Sadiq Khan should be on criminal charges. Susan Hall, his Tory rival, has now called for him to stand down. questioning the mayor and the deputy mayor about rape gangs in London you all saw that the mayor says I don't know what she's talking about what does she mean well all of you knew what I meant

and I suspect he did but trying to get information out of him and the Metropolitan Police and definitely the deputy mayor has been so difficult but we now see that the Met are investigating 9,000 cases of grooming gangs or rape gangs, as I call them. 9,000.

So from going in January, when I first started all these questions, when he said he didn't know what I mean, we're now seeing that they're admitting to at least 9,000 cases. I'm not surprised because so many very brave victims or survivors have actually contacted me, telling me they're terrible stories so at least it's out there and now they admit to it

but why did it take so long Sadiq Khan is the police and crime commissioner he's the mayor of London what a damn disgrace he is he is not worthy of that position he's not he is a disgrace he should go but of course so should yes Phillips because we now know

that the entire grooming gang inquiry has been corrupted. Thanks to this woman. Farage has today suggested it's replaced by a parliamentary court. It will happen in the full glare of media. And it won't take years to conclude. It will take many weeks. It might take a couple of months. but so be it and it will have the power to put in the Palace of Westminster those who

was suspected of colluding in the cover-up of one of the most shameful stories in the history of our islands and I'll be putting all of that to the speaker tomorrow and I hope and expect to get other figures in public life to come out and support this idea it can happen quickly let's make it happen but Labour will not allow it to happen. Dan Hodges summed up the week for this government. The week, this week the government's failure to find a solution to the Maccabee ban was then overshadowed by the revelation a small boat migrant had returned after less than a month,

which in turn was overshadowed by the collapse of the rape gang inquiry, which in turn was overshadowed by Labour's collapse in Wales, which in turn was overshadowed by the conclusive proof Stama lied over time. China, which in turn has been overshadowed by the revelation the Epine sex offenders are on the loose. One week. One week. This cannot go on. Now, let me bring in the superstar panel. Christine and Neil Hamilton with me now. Neil, those scenes on the streets of East London Over the weekend, Nigel Farage has described as being like watching an invading army. How can you see that and say that it doesn't look like the start of sectarianism,

that it doesn't look like the start of a civil war, quite frankly? Well, I've been confidently expecting this development for the last 50 odd years, ever since Enoch Pearl's so-called Rivers of Blood Speech in 1968 predicted this, would be the inevitable development of mass migration of population groups with very different backgrounds and cultures and aspirations from what was then our indigenous population in the United Kingdom. What happens when groups get to a certain proportion in a particular area is that they vie for domination of that area. And this has been developing because our great cities have now to great extent to cease to be what we might at one time have thought recognisably English,

until they become effective outposts of foreign cultures of the countries from which these populations ultimately derive. And the sectarianism which this brings about where group identity matters more than national identity is exactly what Paul Embry referred to in respect of Northern Ireland. with tragic consequences there. And this can only get worse, actually, with migration, completely uncontrolled as it is now, and also with growing Islamization or Islamization of the country. And you see on the streets there where politicized Islam is now standing up, as you say, to the idiot lefties who think that they're all on the same side,

they'll be the first victims of the revolution, of course. as the middle-class liberals in revolutionary France, after 1789, went to the guillotine in short order as soon as the true revolutionaries got in control. I'm afraid unless the country wakes up, and unless our political class is booted out, hook-line and sinker of Parliament, and we make the necessary changes to migration law

and also human rights law and try to somehow reverse the task then we're going to face the complete breakup of our society, certainly in our great cities, if not in the wider countryside. And these scenes are becoming increasingly commonplace and is absolutely horrifying. And Christine, Narenda Kaur turned up against the Section 14 from the police, remembering that UKIP had been banned from being able to march,

in Whitechapel, and yet she was not arrested. So it feels like total two-tier justice. Absolutely. I mean, Narinda has not yet recovered from not being able to do strictly because they didn't want her because people don't like her. He's a massive, well, it's true. That's why she wasn't on strictly. She's not the sort of person they want.

She's a massive attention seeker. She did all that completely deliberately. would have known she wasn't going to be arrested honestly dan i've been sitting here in getting more and more well i'm not shocked anymore but i mean those scenes on the streets of london for goodness sake of masked people in a semi-paramilitary apparel i mean it is absolutely horrific what the hell has happened to the england that i grew up in and the england that anybody of our vintage not yours niels and my vintage remember it is it's being taken over And as Neil said, this has been happening.

We've got to, it's all, I'm afraid, I take a very defeatist attitude that it's too late. They're here. And unless we're going to deport tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people, they're here, they're going to outbreed us, and they are more determined than the average Brit to impose their values and their culture on us. I mean, it's our country, for heaven's sake.

I mean, look at that picture. Just look at that. No police either. No police. So in Tower Hamlets, this mob are able to shut down the streets and run absolutely rampant with no police presence whatsoever because there is a two-tier society and the elite class are just nodding this through. Neil, I've got to ask you, though, about the reaction from Narenda Kaur because that felt like a purposeful attempt to run. race bait, and obviously you were the former leader of UKIP, and you're still the honorary president, I believe, of UKIP, and she is there purposefully trying to bait your party,

which has already been forced not to march and Whitechapel. Yeah, well, that's absolutely disgraceful. It is an example of two-tier policing, quite a spectacular example, in fact. She deliberately went and put herself in that position, knowing that she was in breach of the law, and there were the police standing around all around her, knowing that she was in breach of the law, but failing to move a muscle to do anything about it. I mean, to an extent, obviously, she's an irritating sort of blood vessel

rather than anything more serious than that. But her deliberate provocation was designed, I suppose, to show up the fact of the two-tier policing, as if to say, you know, we rule the streets and we can do what we like, but you, so-called far-right, not that you keep is far right, of course, can't. So what we're seeing here actually is a form of censorship imposed upon people like us by people who wholly believe, don't really believe in free speech at all,

with the covert or perhaps overt support of the arms of the establishment that should be there to ensure that the law prevails and people's liberties will be protected. That isn't happening on our streets. in increasing examples of this kind. And eventually, of course, more and more people like you and me are going to get angrier and angrier. And so the kind of civil disorder that I was talking about at the beginning of this segment of the programme is going to become a bigger and bigger problem for civil society.

We're seeing the breakdown of civil society in this country. It was entirely predicted over half a century ago. And it's happening now before our very eyes. The elite class want to completely try and distract from the real issues. And so, of course, if you've been following the mainstream media over the weekend, you would think, no, it's not a problem that there are these Islamist hate marches on the streets of East London. It's not a problem that civil war seems to be coming. The biggest issue in the United Kingdom, according to the MSM and the elite class and the ruling Labor Party,

is the fact that Reform UK MP Sarah Pochin went on talk TV and admitted the truth about what has become the overrepresentation of black and Asian people in advertising in the United Kingdom. These are facts. They might be uncomfortable facts. be Sarah Pochin didn't even express these facts in the most artful manner. But who cares? She is telling the truth. We have a 4% black population in the United Kingdom. Over 50% of our ads according to a recent Channel 4 survey feature black people. That's ludicrous. That is not what is meant by diversity. It's social engineering. And so unlike the rest of the mainstream media, which has just showing you the tiny little clip of Sarah Pochin, I want to show you this full conversation in context because the context matters. And the people who are calling her a racist,

which will come to shortly, are purposefully taking her out of context to stoke a culture war and it pisses me off. So watch the full conversation, which was a honest debate, or an honest conversation, I guess, you'd say, with a listener on Talk TV. Watch this. portrayed anywhere else. Now the reason why this is important we got a case of art imitates life because we're getting to the point where a number of my friends think that we're being discriminated like in employment markets because white men are seen as useless and whatever and just invisible and there's one financial institution which coincidentally uses a strikingly similar

image of Nigel in their advertising for an incompetent useless arrogant white male. I just wanted if that's something we look into. Okay, Stuart. Okay, Stuart, stay where you are. Sarah, what do you think of what Stuart's saying? What would Reform UK do about it, if anything? I think Stuart's absolutely right. It drives me mad when I see adverts full of black people, full of Asian people, full of, you know, people that basically are anything other than white.

What's wrong with that, Sarah? What's wrong with that? Well, it doesn't reflect our society. And I feel that, you know, your average white person, average white family is like, I agree with you, Stuart, not represented any. more in TV advertising. There are lots of white people on television, Sarah, or they're not? There are lots of white people. There are lots of white men and lots of white women.

We're talking about adverts and how many times do you look at a TV advert and you think there's not a single white person on it? And actually it is, it's something that's happened because, I believe, of the woke liberati that goes on inside, you know, this sort of like in the arty-farty world. And, you know, when it comes to, you know, northern towns like Runcorn that I represent, And, you know, I mean, it's just not representative of the rest of the country. It might be fine inside the M25, but it's definitely not representative of the rest of the country. And actually, you know what, people, I'm hearing this more and more, people notice, and people will switch off.

Yes, they will. Sarah Pochin said nothing wrong. What the mainstream media have done have taken that one tiny clip and de-contextualise it to try and make a point that she is racist. It's not racist. Let me tell you, if you went to Namibia and there were 50% white people in Namibia, or you went to Japan and there were over 50% of white people in ads, no one would say it was racist for a Japanese politician to say, well, we should have more Japanese people in these ads.

I'm sick of seeing the white people because we are a 95% Japanese country. But what happens in this country is the elite class immediately run to racism, even some people who should know better. Dan Hodges posted immediately after this, I think this is the most overtly racist thing I think I've ever seen from a sitting member of parliament. Tim Montgomery, who's meant to be on her team, said, I don't think Sarah's remarks were racist, but she was definitely guilty of political malpractice. No, she wasn't. She was telling the truth. But of course, the hostage video apology then came. because Nigel Farage was furious.

Sarah had to write my comments on a talk TV phone and earlier today were phrased poorly and I unreservedly apologised for any offence caused which was not my intention. The point I was making is that many British TV adverts have gone DEI mad and are now under-representators of British society as a whole.

Sarah, we understood. We knew exactly. what you were doing. But of course, it's a little desperate weasel liars like Whiz Streeting, who are actually hypocrites and anti-white racists who have tried to cash in on this. Look at what he had to say, putting on faux outrage on LBC. What she said was a total disgrace. There is no explanation for what she said other than her words were racist. Now, she might be embarrassed by her racism now, but the least she can do is admit it and apologize for it.

And as a country, we cannot allow what has been, I think, one of the most successful multi-faith, multicultural countries in the world to slide back to the days where people walk down the street, afraid of being abused or attacked because of what they look like or who they worship. That is not who we are. That is not the kind of country we are. And we're not going back there. But we will only be able to confront and defeat this racism if we're prepared to call it out. and if the vast majority of decent people are prepared to face it down and not be bystanders. She should be utterly ashamed of herself.

And the deafening silence from our own party leadership show that Reform UK cannot be trusted to govern this country because they think our country's flag belongs to only some of us rather than all of us. No, you should be ashamed with, streeting. You should be ashamed. You're the one trying to stoke a race war. And guess who followed up with it today?

Starma. Yep. Stama has gone there too. Watch. It's shocking racism, and it's the sort of thing that will tear our country apart, and it tells you everything about reform. And Nigel Fras has got some questions to answer because either he doesn't consider it racist,

which in my view is shocking in itself, or he does think it's racist, and he's shown absolutely no leadership. Well, sadly, actually, Farage hasn't shown the type of leadership that I would have liked him to show today because what he's done is haul Sarah Pochin over the cold publicly humiliate her at a press conference where I think he should have said she did nothing wrong, watch.

The words that Sarah Pochin used in response to a caller in a talk radio on Saturday morning were without ugly. and taken on their own could be read to be very, very unpleasant indeed. I am unhappy with what she has done. I can't underestimate that, and she fully knows how I feel. However, it was in the broader context of DEI madness in the advertising industry

something which anybody, anybody with half a brain can recognise has been going on since about 20, 21. So I understand the basic point, but the way she put it, the way she worded it, was wrong and was ugly. And if I thought that the intention behind it was racist, but I would have taken a lot more action than I have to date, and that is because I don't.

So Ed Davy said this is racist, pure and simple prompt. Tompting Lawrence Fox to reply, we have reached the point where empirical truth is racist now, yawn. There is a glaring disparity in advertising. Every single ethnic group is overrepresented at the expense of Native Brits on television. Read the studies. I understand she is on an apology tour on Nigel's orders, no doubt for speaking the truth. Reform, yet again, adopting the I'm not mad whilst sat in a straight jacket in a lunatic asylum approach. I am in a mixed-race relationship you would have thought from watching the telly that everyone else was too.

they aren't. Stop apologing for reality. It gets us nowhere. But I actually think there are so many anti-white racists and race baiters now operating in Parliament. Manera Wilson, I'm going to call her out, the Lib Dem, who wrote, wow, racist with the capital R. Is that also how you feel about those of us who are brown or black sitting in parliament with you? Of course not. But I do point out, no one on the left called out these two anti-white racists. Watch. Every chief executive of every council and every government department, white. Every director of a department in Scotland, white. Every principal of a college or university in Scotland, white.

Every headteacher in Scotland, white. Every chair of a public sector body in Scotland, white. Every high court judge in Scotland, white. Every prison governor in Scotland, white. Every editor of a news organisation in Scotland, white. Why? The Lord Justice Clark, white. Every high court judge, white.

The Lord advocate, white. The slister general, white. The Chief Constable, White. Every deputy chief constable, white. Every assistant chief constable, white. The head of the law society, white. The head of the faculty of advocates, white. Every prison governor, white.

And not just justice, the chief medical officer, white. The chief nursing officer, white. The chief veterinary officer, white. The Chief Social Work Advisor, white. Almost every trade union in this country headed by people who are white. In the Scottish government, every director general is white. Every chair of every public body is white.

Because you live in a 94% white country, you fool. Christine Hamilton, I mean, it's Sarah Poachin who's racist, apparently, not that mob. It honestly, Dan, it is so unbelievable. Talk to your friends, anybody out there who doesn't believe what Sarah has said. Just talk to your friends. Ask them what they see on their television screens. Ask them how many non-white people they see. Ask them whether the average family, whether they're eating crisps or buying donuts or washing up liquid, whatever it is.

They're not a representative white family in this country. They are always, she's absolutely right. It's not racist to say the truth. You're showing a whole load of them now. It is not racist. It's an absolute fact. There's hardly an advert that goes out nowadays where they're all white.

I mean, it's mind-boggling. And I must say, I entirely agree with it. I thought Nigel Farage's non-defense offer, just throwing her to the wolves to save his own skin, which is not surprising, knowing him, was appalling. He did not need to say the first third or quarter of his response. he could have just started out by saying

it is not racist to state the bleeding office. 100%. 100%. And Neil, now we're in this extraordinary situation where all of the leftists who have spent the past five years campaigning for this ludicrous over-representation are now saying, Neil,

oh, well, Adzan actually meant to be a representation of society. I beg your pardon? Yeah. No, well, you know, it's a good. case of go broke i think how many people are just looking at the television and say oh look there's another one and it's a game really and it's a game that i've seen other people play that spot the whitey and so the ordinary people of the country the people who have rejected the political classes attempt to shut their opinions out of normal conversation aren't going to

fall for this why do we have a result that we got in kaffili the other day with reform came from nowhere to nearly 40% of the vote. Why are events like this happening all over the country all the time where the political class is being kicked out of office? It's because ordinary people know that the political class is not representative of them. And what we've got to do is change the whole complement of people who are elected to represent the people until they do represent the people. And I think it was pathetic that Sarah Pochin was forced to apologize for something which required no apology. She explained in that post of hers on Twitter exactly what it was all about. You're perfectly obvious, actually, when you listen to what she actually said

in the broadcast, which you showed just a few minutes ago. It's a complete non-issue which has been manufactured by politicised leftist media who just can't face up to the reality of the disaster that is modern Britain. Breaking today, Axt Talk TV presenter Mike Graham is being replaced by his best friend Kevin O'Sullivan as the Civil War behind the scenes at the News UK station reaches a new peak. So, as you'd expect, the listeners and the viewers are horrified.

They've launched a We Want Mike Graham Back campaign. And of course, because there are the corporate sensibilities and the HR investigations around something like this, Mike's presenter friends who viewers and listeners believe are his best mates are unable to say anything. Although when Kevin O'Sullivan did step in, and as I say, I'm told that that is the most likely scenario. he is going to be presenting for the rest of the week. Jeremy Kyle has made clear he doesn't want that breakfast slot. When he did take to the mic this morning, he did mention Mike Graham in a very sort of roundabout manner. Watch.

Good morning and welcome to Morning Glory right here on Talk. I'm Kevin O'Sullivan standing in for my old friend Mike Graham, and I will be your host for four hours of breaking news, challenging views. and dynamic. You're made back for the rest of the week. As I say, Mike Graham is still on leave. You know why. We just have to wait, folks. In the meantime, so I am told there is an ongoing HR investigation where News UK, Rupert Murdoch's company, have said that Mike Graham will have to prove that his phone was hacked if he wants to return to air. Sources connected to the company tell me that Mike Graham has refused to hand over his personal phone. And why should he really?

But there is this extraordinary situation. It was very similar, of course, and this is why I feel so strongly about it to what happened with me and GB News, where Mike Graham's show, Plank of the Week, was also hosted by his BFF, Kevin O'Sullivan. Watch. Live from London, it's Plank of the Week, with you. Kevin O'Sullivan. Hi, welcome to Plank of the Week. I'm Kevin O'Sullivan and of course I'm standing in for my good friend Mike Graham and I've got a hell of a panel for you this week. It is the brilliant we'll get us. The amazing. But of course the viewer boycott continues and as you can see there a fraction of the usual audience because the problem is even though the talk presenters might feel

like they're unable to say anything and might have their hands tied. The audience never accept this. I saw it with me. And you'll also remember that the decision for Mark Dolan to run so fast to jump on my grave and start hosting my old show was not good for him. The GB News viewers and listeners never forgave him and he ended up being sacked by station management. But Mark doesn't seem to have learned his lesson. here because he's now facing backlash internally at Talk for openly lobbying for Mike Graham's job. He's done the same thing again with this post on X where he wrote in the last two weeks, Talk TV weekend breakfast is smashed through four million digital views. Huge thanks to everyone

watching sharing and commenting. Personally, I put it down for the wardrobe back on air this Saturday and Sunday. Honestly, Dolan, just shut up. Seriously, sometimes just shut up. Do you're lobbying behind the scenes, okay? Because right now, you've got a station in crisis, its biggest presenter is off air, and the viewers and the listeners have no idea why, have no idea if Mike is ever going to return, and from everything that I'm being told, it is now increasingly unlikely that there is a path back. Of course, why this should really concern talk management is that the enemies of the station, the absolute enemies are luxuriating in this. So we're going to get reaction in just one moment

from the brilliant Christine and Neil Hamilton. But first I have to show you, the biggest enemy who has been celebrating over the weekend, the totally vile Femiola Wally. Watch. But he's always been a piece of shit. Like, you probably know him as the guy who said you could grow concrete.

But I know him as the guy who, when I went into the studio with him, to meet him for the very first time in 2000, for a debate over Brexit, he said, the very first thing said to me was, uh, I'm going to tear you apart, like to my face, like an inch away from my face. Um, and then this happened. What is the single market? What difference does it make? What the single market is? No, no, no, no. What is the single market is? I don't know what the single market is. There we go. There we go. You do not know what the single market is.

This is the whole, this is the primary term that's been used throughout the entire of this of this debate. And you don't know what it is. That is the benefit is the thing of the EU, the provides an economic... Why do you tell me what it is then? All right. Can you educate all of us, what the single market is? Imagine if you wanted to sell to 28 different countries, including your own, but those 28 different countries had different laws.

Yeah. You have to imagine that. That all happened before 1973. You would have... You know, Bob Geldof said... No, wait a second. Bob Geldof said, the music business... Yeah, but I didn't mean it though.

I'm just... I'm just playing with you, man. I don't actually want you to give me a boring answer. Of course, I know where the bloody single market is. If those countries have different laws, I'd have to manufacture market and package my product in 28 different ways. No, you wouldn't. That would raise my cost, I'd have to pay for the extra, I'd have to pay for the extra.

You have become delusional and it's time for you to have your medication, quite frankly. I would have to pay for the extra cost of regulatory checks. It would increase my costs. Now, by making loss together, it means anything made in this country is automatically legal across Europe. That makes things cheaper. So I won't be able to buy Mercedes anymore, is that you're telling me? I won't be able to go to Germany and buy myself a Mercedes or an Audi or a BMW. You'll be able to.

You'll be able to, but it will cost more. You don't know that. that you think Mercedes are going to deliberately cut their nose off to spite their face and make it more expensive for them to sell their cars it's not about them choosing to make it more expensive it's by the fact that having different different laws automatically makes it more expensive no it doesn't it does not make anything ultimate you know what book gild of your hero you literally just your hero not knowing what the selling with you man you think i don't know what it means i've studied economics as well well and good to say you know what it means after after you said

you don't and then i explain it to you and now you know what it means and now he's lost his job because because he's been exposed as a racist piece of shit, then I could not be happier. And it's important to remember, talk TV is a racist news channel. Like, they aren't doing this on principle. They just know that there's a line that they can't cross. They can't be that overtly racist. And that line exists because, contrary to popular belief, we are a society at the very least that does not tolerate overt racism.

Putting people like me on one side of the line and people like Mike Graham on the other. So Mike Graham, I know you've blocked me and have done for years. years. But if you do see this, no, I win. So Neil Hamilton, the fact that someone like Femiola Wally is so happy about the defenestration of Mike Graham, I think is a reason why people, and certainly why talk, should want him back. But what's your take on this decision? It all obviously comes from this post that he made on a Sunday night, which many said were racist. He said, compare and contrast, tell me we're not fucked by multicultural

bollocks. Why are we surrounded by non-white people just fuck off? But he then said the next day that he had indeed been hacked. Well, obviously, I've got no idea of the truth of that or not. And it's not the language I would have used with the foul-mouthed expletives and so on. And that's why I think it's unlikely that Mike Graham would have used those words too. But the sentiment that was expressed there without the expletives is another commonplace that you'll hear people talking about. You know, 56% of the people who live in London were born outside the United Kingdom. I think that's a pretty dramatic fact of our capital city that more than half the people who live in London were not born in the United Kingdom, let alone in London. And that is

demonstrable just by the photograph that we saw in that caption, and anybody's lived experience is that it's a commonplace. What is controversial about saying it? Absolutely nothing whatsoever. And of course, it's a growing proportion of the population that was not born in the United Kingdom. If you don't think that matters in the capital city of a country, then there's something wrong with you, in my opinion. It's obvious that what we're seeing in this country is actually cultural displacement of our own people. Once ethnic groups reach a certain size as a proportion of the population, as I said earlier on, birds of a feather flocked together. And then you end up with a divided rather than a homogeneous society.

And where there are tensions which can be blamed on identity rather than on other things which are nothing to do with it, then we'll see the kind of violence and disorder on the streets that we started the programme with. So, you know, these are all statements of the obvious actually. why should anybody apologize for a statement of the obvious? Yeah, I mean, Christine, it's such an interesting one, isn't it? Because as we've seen also with Sarah Poachin over the weekend, and of course, ironically, she made her comments on talk TV. So the boss is panicked again because it's like,

holy shit, now we're caught up in a second racism scandal. But people are so quick to cancel us, right? And we never stand up. for each other, you know? And God, I obviously feel this so strongly because of what I went through at G.B. News. And, you know, you too, my God, you always stand up for what's right. And you stood up for me every single step of the way. But what I noted, Christine, is so many people didn't because they're scared, you know, oh, am I going to lose my job? Is it bad if I'm associated with this? And I think we're now seeing the same thing with Mike Graham. And it does

put the fellow presenters on talk in a terrible position because there are lots of viewers and listeners who are boycotting and saying until you own up and tell us what's happening with Mike Graham, we're not going to listen to you. Well, when I first heard that we were going to be talking about that, we've been away for a week. We've been in Portugal, so we've kind of missed quite a lot of news when he got back yesterday. So I was a bit worried, well, we're going to know what you were talking about. So I've, you know, done my research, as it were. And my immediate thought, and you've already picked up on it was that this is exactly what happened to you with being used your employer's declined to believe you you were suspended and eventually you

got rid of and because they preferred to believe somebody else somebody that didn't know somebody who was making false accusations about you now i've no idea the little i know i don't know mike graham apart from having been interviewed by him and been on his program i've never met him outside a studio context. So I don't know. But the idea that he would say that and put it out on Twitter, to me, seems totally against everything I know about the guy. And people are saying, oh, well, you Mike Graham, you tweeted that photograph of Churchill and Big Ben a few minutes before in another tweet. Therefore, it must have been you. No, if it was hacked, the hackers just immediately took the photograph he used and then attached that rant. I just don't believe he would

have used that language. So whether people are, of course people are vying for his job. I mean, that's going to happen in any case. As you say, you saw it happen at G.B. News when there's a vacancy, people rush to fill it. But I think, I hope he's vindicated. I mean, surely, I don't know enough about these things, but surely you can prove eventually if your account has been hacked. The police would be able to prove it. Surely not. Surely they could. It's not impossible to prove it. So if he's proved to be right, he's owed a massive apology and he's owed his job straight back, whoever else might have jumped into his shoes in the meantime. But if only, let's just get this organised, get it properly investigated, get his account looked at and

see what the truth is. But Neil, as is always the case, there's been a big woke takeover, right, of News UK, where I used to work. And there's this really interesting situation going on where you know talk TV is the sister station of TalkSport. But TalkSport is the cash cow. It's actually far more important to the News UK business. And TalkSport has gone very woke. I mean, people might be surprised because obviously we're seeing Alan Brazil on screen there. But, you know, it's really changed since the Black Lives Matter movement.

There's been a whole load of new presenters who have been brought in, including this guy called Aide Olladipo, And he posted, he went public on this, and he posted just being sent, he's now deleted this, by the way, but this is what sparked the investigation. He posted this, just being sent that now deleted Instagram posts from Mike Graham. I usually hold my tongue with most of the racist nonsense I see on social media, but this is beyond violent, unacceptable, from someone in the same building as me, same floor. He simply has to be taken off air immediately by Talk TV, horrible man. And so this is what's interesting, Neil. This situation with Mike Graham has now being used by Talk Sport,

which has for a long time hated the association with Talk TV for there to be real change. Well, what's happened to the presumption of innocence in this country, in these situations? To be accused is to be convicted nowadays. 100%. Even a moment's thought. It's a spasmodic reaction.

just a knee-jerk. And we should really reflect, I think, upon what this is doing to the whole justice system in this country, where individuals can be targeted. This is an example of cybercrime, because that's what it would amount to. Then we should be concentrating on that fact, because what happened to Mike Graham can happen to any of us. If anybody targets you from the far left or wherever, or wants to destabilize the country, Whether we see this with the Russian and Chinese, North Korean, similar regimes that deliberately use the control of technology to try to ferment all sorts of problems amongst their perceived enemies. And this can happen in civil society as well.

We should really be much, much more aware of how fragile social media interactions are and can easily be. intercepted or hacked and perverted by those who want to destroy individuals who they think are too successful in broadcasting or propagandising. And I think, again, though, I'll go back to the point that I made earlier on where it may be that the political class think that by being so morally superior adopting the high moral tone and hectoring positions that they do, that that's going to close down people's opinions. But it isn't, because Because the public at large, as you say, in relation to Mike Graham's program, are just switching off and they'll go elsewhere.

That's why your new venture, which is the 364th program that we're on today, has been so successful. It's because audiences can easily migrate to the channels. Well, I think this is a huge opportunity for Mike. Yeah, absolutely. I think this is a huge opportunity for Mike. Get out of the mainstream media. It's dying.

It's dying. This is maybe an excuse. just using this to get rid of you anyway. You know, so just embrace what this world is because at the end of the day, you're much, much more powerful on your own. Breaking right now, in the past half hour, King Charles has been heckled outside Litchfield Cathedral over the ongoing and deepening scandal involving his brother, Prince Andrew. It's a dire time for the royal family, and this world exclusive on the front page of the sun certainly isn't going to help matters. In order to vacate Royal Lodge, Andrew is

demanding not only Harry and Megan's former home, the mansion otherwise known as Frogmore Cottage, but also the current residence of William and Catherine. Not for him, not for his daughters, but for Sarah Ferguson. The non-Duchess, who's been divorced from the man for the past 30 years. This is a joke, and as I've said for some time, I really do believe that Prince William is right here when he says there has to be an act of parliament, not just to strip Fergie and Andrew and Beatrice and Eugenie,

but to strip Harry and Megan. and there two little blighters too. But as I say, I haven't watched this yet. I want to look at the Sky News coverage because I knew this was going to happen. The Republican movement, the hard leftists are using this crisis in the royal family, are using Charles's health travails

and are using the fact that he's not taking a strong enough stance to try and put the Republican debate on the table. So as I say, this is King Charles during a visit to Litchfield Cathedral in the past half hour. Let's listen and see what happened. I'm watching this at the same time as you. How long have you known about Andrew and Atkins?

Have you asked the police to cover up for Andrew? Have you asked the police to cover up for Andrew? What do you think should be able to debate the lawyers in the House of Commons? So they're one person at least in the crowd talking. about the Epstein case and the police and also Prince Andrew and evidence if it were needed for the king of how this issue is very high in the public mind and I wonder if we could just listen again

to what has just been shouted to the king. Can we can we can we can can't. But, I mean, the king is clearly under pressure to do more. And let's just have a listen again. How long have you known about Andrew and Ettsday? Have you asked the police to cover up for Andrew? Have you asked the police to cover up for Andrew? What do you think should be able to debate the lawyers in the House of Commons? Okay, so we get the picture there to Neil and Christine Hamilton. Christine, look, I always knew that this was going to be the consequence that the Republican movement was going to be absolutely emboldened by this. And indeed, in the past our republic have

effectively claimed credit for this ambush of the king, writing we won't back down, the British public won't back down. Charles is complicit in covering up accusations against Andrew. He needs to be held to account. As a monarchist and as a royalist like me, Christine, this is a deepening crisis and it really does feel like Charles has to get a better handle on this. Oh, I think he does. And if he gives in and gives Andrew a house and Fergie a house, I mean, you know, royalists like me will be revolted by that. I'm sorry, but they've been divorced for 30 years. They've got plenty of money between them. Plenty of divorced couples have to find two places to live. He can have a house okay because he's still a royal prince.

But the idea that we the taxpayer or the king should provide his divorced wife of 30 years who was also very closely involved with Epstein, let's not forget her appalling emails, with a house. I mean, what? It's just mind-boggling. But I do, I hate to say this, and it pains me to say it, but I do feel that our deeply beloved late queen did spoil Andrew. and I think possibly her indulgence of him encouraged his sense of entitlement. And that's what he hears.

He's a pretty thick, oh, dumb, but also has this hugely exaggerated sense of entitlement. And he now clearly thinks that he's entitled to a house and his ex-wife for 30 years is entitled to a house. Well, come off it, he can exchange one house for another house, full stop, leave it at that. And then please go away. I mean, why doesn't he go and live in the castle of May

where we would never have to see him again all the way up there. He can watch all his videos and stuff. He said he doesn't want to be cold. Neil, do you think that the monarchy is genuinely under threat because of the scandal? No, I don't.

I think this is certainly a bit of a side show. But the trouble is it keeps going on and on and on. And if there's any truth in this claim that Andrew is angling for two residences, whatever size they are, it's just going to keep the story bubbling along. Has he got absolutely zero judgment whatsoever about him? Well, I mean, we know that.

We know that he doesn't. Look, let me just take you through the key details of the story, Neil, before I get you to go on, because it is just worth looking at this report from the Sun in just a little bit more details. So they report Prince Andrew and ex-wife Sarah Ferguson have agreed to leave Royal Lodge, but want two homes in return.

Andy demanded Harry and Megan's ex-Winsop had Frogmore Cottage and Exit talks with palace bosses. Fergie is lining up nearby Adelaide Cottage after William and Kate leave next month. A friend of the pair said, no one is really sure how it's going to go down at the palace yet. He is realistic and knows the writing is on the wall and that his time at Royal Lodge is up.

William and Cated you to leave Adelaide Cottage next month. Neither house would need renovations or cost taxpayers more on security as they lie within the Windsor Castle security perimeter. Talks are said to be continuing on how much rent, Andrew and Fergie would be charged. The friend added, Andy is willing to leave, but these are his demands. I mean, Neil, to me, I just don't think this solves the problem, does it? It's like, there are still effectively grace and favor mansions paid for by the taxpayer and the royal family. I don't see how it's any better that he's in two houses within the Windsor estate than just staying.

put in Royal Lodge? Well, I don't think it'll be paid for by the taxpayer because the houses will be owned by the Crown Estate, which is, you know, like a trust, and the trustees have legal obligations not to deplete the assets of the trust. So they couldn't just give him a grace and favour residence. Somebody would have to pay the market rent for. Well, he's paying a pepper corner year at the moment, so we know the types of arrangements that come.

But yes, I hear your point. But I mean, that's because all the value in whatever arrangement, he's got on Royal Lodge of the minute he's in the lease premium, not in a ground rent. That happens pretty regularly in leasehold arrangements. So I don't think there's anything very much in that particular point. My guess is that what he's angling for here is for the king to pay his rent. And I don't know what resources Andrew has got. We're not privy to his personal finances.

We know that he got the queen to stump up 12 million quid for that payoff. over the allegations were made against him by that girl whose name I can't now remember. But I'm sorry, Virginia Jew, sorry. Oh, sorry, yes, it was hurt, wasn't it? And so presumably he doesn't have a very deep pocket to dip into for the scale of his aspirations on how to live.

But given that he isn't actually going to be going anywhere very much out in public, then I don't suppose he's got to have any image of himself to keep up in terms of grandeur. So why doesn't he just pipe down and put up with the result of what's happened, which is all due to his spectacular failures of judgment going back for many, many years? And what about this act of Parliament, though, that William wants? Surely that's actually what's required here? because do it all, Neil, in one fell swoop.

You know, deal with Andrew and Fergie once and for all, but also deal with the Harry Megan, Archie Lilly problem because trust me, that is an unexploded bomb, which William doesn't want to have to deal with. Why on earth should they be pimping out the royal family and the H.R.H title and the Duke and Duchess title to sell dodgy products? And also, they've had loads of dodgy relations with people.

Like, basically, Harry and Megan are what Andrew, and Fergie were 30 years ago. Do you see what I mean? Just deal with this once and for all. There can be a letter's patent. It can all be done. And you just strip them of the H.R.H status, the princely type. Just do it all.

Because what, you know, otherwise you're delaying the inevitable. Because trust me, William's going to do that when he becomes king whenever that happens to be. It wouldn't require any legislation to strip either of them of honorific titles like HRAH or even a prince. that all it requires is new letters patent for the king to sign. You would have to have an Act of Parliament to deprive Andrew and Harry of their dukedoms because titles are what's called an incorporeal hereditimate in property law. That is, they're a property interest which can't be removed except by legislation. But do we really want to use parliamentary time on something which ultimately is pretty

trivial, two individuals who are no longer involved in public life as far as... But it's the Harry and Megan issue for me, Neil. That's what the issue is, because they are, I believe, more of a threat, actually, but you could do it all at once. And what you can say is that we're doing this because William is preparing for a slim-down monarchy, and this is not personal, it's not a personal slight about any of these individuals, but it's something that is responsible for the type of monarchy that we want. And do you see what I mean?

Then it feels less personal against any of them. Well, obviously, you know that I'm no defender of the Californian Gryfters. And I'm not really a defender of Prince Andrew either. But I'm in two minds over. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Christine, you wanted to come in. Point you make. But on the other hand, do we really want to magnify the importance of this in reality?

It's embarrassing. And empower the Republicans. No, I agree. Christine, sorry, you wanted to come in. Well, just, I mean, I don't think it's worth spending parliamentary time on it. Just tell them, you cannot use these titles, full stop. And if you do, obviously, you can't stop them unless you have a law about it. And I would strip the kids of all these ridiculous titles.

Why should whatever they're called in Montessetto be called Prince? and princess, and for heaven's sake, you know. They're nothing to do with the royal family any longer. Just, you know, they're just little whatever they are. And, you know, Beatrice and Eugenia, I mean, I do feel sorry for them. Obviously, they've had a lot of privilege and entitlement and they've done, had a lot of fun, et cetera, et cetera, and benefited hugely because of who their parents were.

But, I mean, it must be just hideous for them. There was a slight movement because the royal family's getting a little bit too slim down and there aren't enough people to go around to bring them into the fold and it was thought that they could because they're very personable young young women they really are that you know they're a very delightful pair of girls but obviously that's now absolutely off the counter because every time they appear every time there's a photograph or anything of them it will be mentioned that it's Andrew by the way this whole program has driven me to drink I know I know we started at five o'clock but but we have

I've just had an hour change, so by the time we got to nearly five of us, when we signed on. I don't blame you. Christine's still on summertime. So depressing. It is so depressing. I know. I know. It is.

Can I depress you further, Christine? Harry and Megan have released this bizarre new video today. I don't know if you've seen this, Christine, but this is of their Halloween celebrations. But look, it's so creepy, Christine. It's all taken from behind the kids' faces, and there's no one else there. So they've clearly cleared out this entire pumpkin patch to allow their two imprisoned children who never seem to leave the Montecito mansion. And I just thought, this is odd.

And I mean, that's meant to convince us that Harry and Megan are happy. Have you ever seen a couple holding hands be more distant, Kristen? I don't. And honestly, she's always, I mean, I have a thing against black, I'm afraid. I don't own a single piece of black. Racist, racist. Oh, no, I'm talking about clothes. She's not doing a Sarah Poachin, Neil. I am talking about clothes and to see people sort of dressed in tired of black. Oh, that's what you say now.

Shut up. You know, this is Halloween. It's also, I suppose Halloween black and it goes with Halloween. I don't know. But is that really little whatever her name is, Lily Bet, because I thought she. Are we meant to believe it? We never see her face. He had very red hair to start with. Anyway, there's Megan being normal, not pulling a cart with pumpkins. It's just them being a normal happy family.

Honestly, Dan, really? They're just being a happy family. I think Megan would not better at the point of that. She's our very own royal wicked witch. Neil Hamilton, Christine Hamilton. I adore you both. Thank you so much. have you back from your holiday. Thank you for cheering me up. Sorry about that. I hope I haven't

driven anyone else to drink tonight. Neil and Christine, love you both. Thank you. And we're going to reveal today's greatest Britain union jackass in just one moment. First of your feedback though, Cath Listendon says 20 years ago when I was saying this was coming. This is in regards to the idea of an Islamist civil war on the streets of the UK. Everyone said I was mental. Those people are not laughing now. Baby Watts is sadly we have already been taken over. There is more them now than us. Starma is bringing them all here. It's a disgrace. Helen nod on the rape gang inquiry says Rupert Lowe tried to tell you that back in January, Nigel Farage. You didn't want to know and came down on him instead. And James Faircloth 5469 says, I'm glad my granddad who fought in the war

is not alive now. It's bloody disgusting what is happening here in Britain. And a reminder of your nominees for today's Union Jackass, the worst Britain in the world today. Lucy Powell nominated by Thomas W 3033 after she was sacked, but then brought back as the deputy leader of the Labour Party. David Lammy nominated by Kaz Quinn about that weekend game of Where's Cabuto? And Where's Treaty nominated by Darren Donaldson for going for Sarah Pochin

and claiming that she is racist simply for stating facts? Okay, this was a close one between the three Labor Big Beasts. Well, actually, not really. but between the second and third position, Wes Streeter in third place with 18%, the runner up Lucy Powell with 25%, but actually the overwhelming winner, David Lammy, with 57% as Robert Generic called him

in the House of Commons today, Calamity Lammy. And the greatest Britain winner today nominated by Protect Rights 99 is Graham Linnehan because he speaks for all of us. Now we're moving over to Substack now for the uncanceled after show where we are teaming up

with the Royal News Network. Oh my goodness. And former staff member of Megan Markle has revealed why she is the boss from how fascinating details including midnight meltdowns and red carpet rages.

So we're going to bring you all of that over on substack, www. Dot outspoken. Live. I will be back with you though tomorrow 5pm UK time midday oh no it's not it's i think it's 1 p.m eastern 10 a.m pacific i'm so sorry this daylight saving thing gets me so confused you know that let me just check

i'm just going to check what time is it right now in yeah los angeles 1126 right now new york 2 26 so yeah it's it's 1 p.m eastern time 10 a.m pacific time midday central time just for this week. Why do they not coordinate the quarks? Seriously, it drives me insane, but it is 5pm UK time. Hit subscribe right now on YouTube and turn on the notification bell so you'll be alerted to our new episode

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