Dan Wootton Outspoken - ISLAMIST PLOT TO TAKE OVER BIRMINGHAM BY MP EXPOSED IN LEAKED FOOTAGE AS ITV BACKS SHARIA

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

BREAKING TODAY: A chilling Islamist plot to take over Britain has been exposed by shocking leaked footage of a secret sectarian event in the Disunited Kingdom’s increasingly conquered second city. ...Sectarian MP Iqbal Mohamed has said the quiet part out loud, wanting control of not just Birmingham, not just the West Midlands, but the whole of the Disunited Kingdom. The revelation of this plot should be leading the mainstream media, but it’s being completely ignored. So Dan will show more leaked footage from the event, attended only by Muslim men. It’s no surprise the MSM is ignoring all this, given Woke ITV is allowing a man literally advocating for the introduction of Sharia Law in Adil Ray to host Good Morning Britain. With the country in serious decline, the elite class are tying themselves up in knots to defend the indefensible at the British Bashing Corporation because it’s all about protecting their mates being able to push a hard left pro-Islamist ideology at any cost. In his Digest, Dan reveals growing anger as the government plans to continue to allow illegals to flood our towns and cities as the Epping locals lose their case against the Bell hotel. Then, author, podcaster and ex-Loose Women star Carol McGiffin is here to react. PLUS: Katie Hopkins slams Jeremy Vine, Phillip Schofield and Holly Willoughby as she is finally cleared by cops over her Katie’s Arms spaz joke after a hellish few months. We’ll show you her hilarious and emotional reaction. AND: Talk TV’s cruel on air dig aimed at Mike Graham after the axed host reveals his first Plank of the Week since being taken off air. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince William’s most emotional interview ever, as he opens up to a Brazilian interviewer about the reality of revealing to George, Charlotte and Louis the extent of their mother Catherine’s cancer battle. Our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin will be here. To watch the Uncancelled After Show for exclusive extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 357 and breaking today. A chilling Islamist plot to take over Birmingham, the West Midlands and eventually all of Britain has been exposed by shocking leaked footage of a secret sectarian event in the disunited Kingdom's increasingly conquered Second City. And take over, not just parts of Birmingham, and the whole of the world of the rest of living, the whole of the rest of living, the whole of this United Kingdom. That's an MP. That is Ekbal Muhammad, a sectarian, a man advocating for first cousin marriage, saying the quiet part out loud. Their plan is to take over the whole of this disunited kingdom. And he hollered, we will win. The revelation of, of this plot should be leading the mainstream media, but rather, it's completely ignored. So I will reveal more leaked footage from the event. Here's Jeremy Corbyn arriving. And it was attended other than him only by Muslim men. I guess it's no surprise, right, that the MSM is ignoring all of this, though,
Starting point is 00:01:12 given Wokai TV, now allows a man literally advocating for the introduction of Sharia law in Adul Ray to host Good Morning Britain. He relegates our country's religion, Christianity, to an afterthought, the last in a long list of faiths. Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Hinduism, Christianity, all of our religions. And even those people aren't religious, what is the one thing we have in common? It's our humanity. Oh, you're just Christianity, bottom of the list, right. So with the country in Syria's decline, the elite class are tying themselves up and knots
Starting point is 00:01:47 to defend the indefensible at the British Bashian Corporation because, you know, it's all about protecting their mates, been able to push a hard-left pro-Islamist ideology at any cost. Why are they so exercised by the BBC? Why do they care so much? Why are they turning this relative molehill into an enormous mountain? They can't help themselves. This is a culmination, essentially, of the paper's feeling very frustrated
Starting point is 00:02:11 that they cannot compete commercially with the mammoth, the megalith that is the BBC. I feel like I've been living in a parallel universe for the last 24 hours. The hysteria over this story, whipped up by commercial organisations, newspapers, MAGA, the rest of it, the sort of hard-right online ecosystem that we talk about all the time, all that have an agenda. In my digest next, growing anger as the government plans to continue to allow terrorist, rapists, murdering illegals to flood our towns and cities as the EPIN locals lose their case against the Belho. hotel. Then, author, podcaster, columnist, and ex-loose women's star before it went horrifically woke. Carol McGiffitt will be here for the entire show. Also coming up today, Katie Hopkins
Starting point is 00:03:05 slams Jeremy Vine, Phillips Schofield and Holly Willoughby as she is finally cleared by cops over her Katie's arms spas joke after a truly hellish flu months. We're going to show you her hilarious and emotional reaction. And Talk TV's crawl on-air dig aimed at Mike Graham after the axed host reveals his first plank of the week since being taken off air.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Then, in the uncanncled after show on Substack, Prince William's most emotional interview ever, as he opens up to a Brazilian TV host about the reality of revealing to George, Charlotte and Louis, the extent of their mother Catherine's cancer battle. Our Royal Mastermind, Angela Levin, will be here. We're going to do that over on Substack. like www.outspoken.live.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And of course, a brand new, gracious Britain and Union Jackass will be revealed at the end of the show, too. Your nominees for the worst Britain in the world today. And there's a theme today, I have to say, amongst all of your nominations. Tim Davy, nominated by It's Only Me, 44. The former, soon to be former Director General of the BBC, and we all know why. Emily Thornbury, nominated by Janus B. 33, for gaslighting us about the lying BBC, and Samir Shah, nominated by Tony Kay, the BBC chairman, for clearly not understanding the gravity of this situation or how deep the bias runs. So it's a BBC slam dunk,
Starting point is 00:04:31 but you've just got to choose who you want. Go vote in the live chat on YouTube. Now, I'll bring you the results and your comments at the end of today's show. But now, let's go. It is an absolutely chilling scene, which has only been exposed via leaked footage that I will reveal to you today. At the Grand Royal Suite Banqueting Hall in Birmingham this week, with only Muslim men in the audience and Palestinian flags adorning the walls alongside the Union Jack, Jeremy Corbyn sat on stage as his your party extremists outlined in crude detail, their plan for an Islamist takeover of the United Kingdom. And Britain's second city, by the way, is only the start. As sectarian MP Iqabal Muhammad, you know the man who advocated in Parliament
Starting point is 00:05:35 for first cousin marriage says the quiet part out loud. Now, this chilling new plot should be leading the mainstream media, but it's rather being completely ignored. But do not say you were not warned. Watch. These events, these activities, this unity must grow and continue and take over not just hearts of Birmingham, but the whole of Birmingham, the whole of the West Midland, the whole of the United Tech. All grassroots in hot for a seat. And we, our communities, have shown the establishment and the rest of the country that we will not be taken from granted. As we, Rosie!
Starting point is 00:06:22 The establishment know, the establishment know that if you let one person stand up to them and speak the truth to people about what power is doing to them, then more people will stand up and they will come a point when we all stand up against depression, against depression, against the people. against injustice and against corruption in politics. You see the power of solidarity. We see the power of solidarity, the power of all of us together. Individually, we may feel helpless, lonely, often frightened. Together, nothing can stop us. No tyrant can rule us.
Starting point is 00:07:02 No party, government or dictator can demand from us subservient Together, we are powerful. Remember that and take that message onto the streets of Birmingham and share it with every single person you know in this country and abroad. Did you hear that? Nothing will stop us. Their plan, he just outlined it, is to take over. Not just Birmingham, not just the West Midlands,
Starting point is 00:07:32 but the whole of the disunited kingdom. He hollered, we will win. We will win. And did you notice, as that secret recording tracked around the room, there was not a woman in sight. Other than Jeremy Corbyn sitting on that stage, there was not a white man in sight, yet they believe they will win.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So while Sly News focuses on Tommy Robinson supporters embracing Christianity, shock, horror, the MSM ignores this scandal from an actual serving MP. Now, knowing that he had just been rumbled, Iqbal Mohammed has gone public writing, so I have seen selective clips of my speech at the Your Party event in Birmingham last night being shared by racists and hate mongers
Starting point is 00:08:24 as some kind of evidence that I'm anti-British. You keep hating and I'll keep helping. A true patriot. For which country, mate? As Jewish columnist, Jake Wallace Simons put it, my blood runs cold. This man is an MP. Sadiq Khan's Tory rival in London, Susan Hall added, Open your eyes, everyone. Open your eyes. And Howard Cox of Advance UK added, This is Ekbal Muhammad MP, the independent MP for Dewsbury and Batley calling for an Islamic
Starting point is 00:08:56 takeover of Birmingham in front of Union and Palestinian flags. Surely he should be censured by the UK Parliament for such hatred and vitriol to our country. Now, let me be clear. This is a battle for the soul of Britain. Muhammad's right in the thick of it, pushing a sectarian agenda that is about Gaza over Great Britain.
Starting point is 00:09:21 When he was defending first cousin marriages in Parliament, he actually said we should look to Arab countries for guidance. I mean, that is straight out of the Islamist playbook, right? Prioritising cultural norms from the Middle East over British values and health risks. It's not just backward, it is a nod to Sharia-style thinking that has no place in our Western society. I want to show you Jeremy Corbin arriving at this secret event, not a woman in sight, even though the party's deputy leader is Zara Sultanah. Watch.
Starting point is 00:10:04 This is we call a real leader walking in without any brought to ball, a man of the public, for the public, JC. For a very small part of the public, the Islamists. Yet today, Corbyn has had the cheek to slam Rupert Lowe of Restore Britain, writing, we are at a dangerous moment in this country. need a real alternative that will defend the humanity of migrants and refugees and build an inclusive society for all. That prompted Rupert Lowe to fire back. Jeremy, I couldn't give a shit about
Starting point is 00:10:47 defending the humanity of third world con men who have broken into our country. I want a society where British families can live without the fair of getting stabbed by a foreigner who should never have been allowed into Britain. All right? Go Rupert. But far too few people are prepared to fight back against the Islamist wave that is about to sweep our politics. And by the way, that is their language. Because I've also got leaked footage from the same event of the Pakistan-born MP for Birmingham, Perry Barr, Ayub Khan, where he attempted to suggest quite the opposite.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Watch. That every single political party, despite the evidence pointing at the guilty, was prepared to turn away and say, actually, the guilty people are the people of Birmingham. The guilty people are the people of Astrid. They were prepared to sell each and every one of us out just to suit the narrative which they spun.
Starting point is 00:11:53 That's how dangerous the parties are committed. That's how dangerous these political parties have become. That they are willing to say anything. And that is the tsunami that we are up against. Not just politicians, but the media as well. He also completely misrepresented the anti-Semitism currently rampant in the UK to paint Muslims as the real victims watch. Because truth be told, if you had five to six hundred hooligans,
Starting point is 00:12:27 chanting death to Arabs, chanting that we will break your courts, taking that there are no children left because we have destroyed all the schools in Austin or in Birmingham and if they went around properties gripping down your flags smashed your cars
Starting point is 00:12:47 beat up private tire drivers what would the reaction mean what would it happen to our communities now this man has the actual cheek to moan about the MSM when woke ITV is allowing a man literally advocating for the introduction of Law in Adel Ray to host its flagship news program Good Morning Britain, even though the bloke has no journalistic experience whatsoever. And I was actually at ITV when this weird man who wasn't
Starting point is 00:13:20 a journalist all of a sudden was given this platform to speak about the news every day. And it's very interesting when he's propagating his bullshit about Islamophobia that he relegates our country's religion, Christianity, to some sort of afterthought in a list of other faiths. Watch. May I mentioned, you know, an increase in Islamophobia and increase in prejudice. So why is it important that we have events like this celebrating the fact that not only can be a Muslim in this city, in this country, but that we can all get involved in celebrating celebrations like Ramadan?
Starting point is 00:13:55 Because look, every religion, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Hinduism, Christianity, all of our religions. And even those people aren't religious, what is the one thing we have in common? It's our humanity. So we all believe in being good human beings and having great relationships with everybody around us, absolutely everyone around us. And therefore, celebrating our cultures between us all, celebrating our religious events, whatever they might be between us all,
Starting point is 00:14:19 I think it's a fantastic thing. Remember this is what Adul Ray posted on X in regards to the election of New York's hard left Islamist mayor. Some say Mamdani may implement Sharia law. He might. the heart of Sharia is social justice, welfare, fairness, charity and cohesion. Most Muslim countries operate a hybrid of Sharia and civil law, are slowly reforming and abandoning unethical practices despite the West's portrayal. But as Matt Goodwin put it, television presenters in the United Kingdom should not be calling for Sharia law.
Starting point is 00:14:51 We should abolish all Sharia courts in the UK and while we're there ban cousin marriage and the Berker. But I fear extremism is now being normalized via mainstream BBC faces like this dude chunks. If you wanted to leave, not be Muslim, you're disowning. Yeah, I'll say, yo, that can't run for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get twisted, you can leave it, but you can also come back. You get it.
Starting point is 00:15:20 But I feel like leaving a fold of Islam, I can't power with you, man. You know what I mean? I know I always have that unconditional love where I see the youth and if I see him in a pastime I'm always going to try and stop it but I feel like having that want to love this person without being under the fold of Islam I can't power that man
Starting point is 00:15:38 That's a good answer And as we continue to look away The extremism and radicalisation Is seeping into our youth And putting us increasingly at risk You know there has still been no reckoning over the fact Axel Rudiqabana was radicalised as an Islamist.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Even as it emerges, there are Southport Massacre copycat attacks already being plotted. Now, I want to take you through these chilling details, which again have been overlooked and ignored by the MSM. Not the times, though, so well done for them for reporting on this. Two teenagers have been arrested in separate copycat cases after allegedly seeking to emulate the Southport killer. raising concerns over further attacks on schools and dance schools.
Starting point is 00:16:30 The boys aged 17 and 16 cannot be named. Neither has been charged with preparing terrorist acts because prosecutors do not consider attacks on school children or misogynistic violence to be ideological. Both have instead been charged with lesser offences. Prevent referrals involving individuals with no ideology have risen sharply over the past year and now make up more than half of all cases,
Starting point is 00:16:57 although only 7% of them were offered intervention. Axel Rudabana, whose crime sparked the current concern, was rejected by Prevent, three times. So here's the new case. The first in June involved a 17-year-old from South Wales, who had discussed copying Rudigabana and researched obtaining large knives. Police found a phone note titled Places to Attack,
Starting point is 00:17:20 containing images of a dance school near his home and directions on how to reach it. Location data suggested he had been close to the school days earlier. He had also researched potential attacks on his own school and told others on Snapchat that he planned to target the Oasis Reunion concert in Cardiff on July 4th. In the second case, a 16-year-old from Merseyside allegedly planned to attack a Taylor Swift-themed event while wearing a green hoodie mirroring Rudecabana. Prosecutors say he travelled to Southport, collected knives, researched a swift-themed event and downloaded the same Al-Qaeda manual Ruda-Kabana used to produce ricin.
Starting point is 00:18:05 But he's not been charged as a terrorist. He had also researched high school shootings and misogynist in cells and considered attacking his former school after dropping out according to prosecutors. He was arrested in August and charged with possessing documents useful for terrorism and making threats to kill. He is due to end to pleas next month. Now, doesn't this show you everything that is wrong with our legal system? So all we know is that this is a 16 and 17 year old. We know nothing about the parents.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Are these children of immigrants yet again? We know nothing about the religious ideology, likely Islamists. which is driving these attacks, and how the hell does prevent keep on missing these cases, too? Yet meanwhile, the government, today, continues to allow terrorists, rapists, murdering illegals to flood our towns and cities at pace, breaking just this afternoon. Epine's Bell Hotel can house asylum seekers. I don't call them that, by the way, I call them illegal immigrants. The ruling follows anti-immigration protests and counting demonstrations by thousands of people outside. the Bell Hotel in Epping since July. The latest data for June shows there are more than 32,000
Starting point is 00:19:24 migrants housed in 200 hotels at a cost of 5.5 million pounds a day. The protests were mounted after Ethiopian asylum seeker Haddish Kabatu. 41 was charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl and a woman in Epine. He was sentenced to a year in prison for his crimes, but accidentally released from jail two weeks ago, sparking a major mound. He was deported to Ethiopia after being caught by police in Fincery Park in London two days after his release. Local independent journalist Adam Brooks reports now from the scene of the Bell Hotel. This Adam Brooks, I'm still here at the Bell Hotel where there is a few police cars. There were more earlier.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But interestingly, the police have got the barriers from behind there. And they have now put the barriers across the road. They are expecting protests and rightfully so. the locals are I mean my phone has not stopped locals are so so angry this was they felt their last hope to get rid of these foreign men
Starting point is 00:20:24 from their town the danger to their town we've had a sexual sort of a 14 year old girl there's been so many other instances of lewd behaviour harassment disgusting behaviour from the men in this hotel it is the establishment
Starting point is 00:20:41 versus the people as I said on my other video A government is there to represent its people and protect its people. This government is doing neither. There will be flash protests in Epping later. It is my understanding. As Reform UK's Pink Lady, all a mini Hain, one of the main people behind this summer uprising,
Starting point is 00:21:04 wrote in the past hour, we never thought we'd win. Why would this government put the wishes and concerns of the British taxpayer before illegal migrant men? The only way to win this war is to get Labor out. Now, Carol McGiffon is here. McGiff, so good to see you, lots to get starded on, but I've got to ask you about this leaked footage of Iqbal Mohammed.
Starting point is 00:21:35 This is just chilling stuff, is it not? I mean, he was quite openly advocating for a takeover. and you look around the people in that room, McGiff, not one white face apart from Jeremy Corbyn and not one woman. Well, I thought I saw a woman with a camera, but obviously I'm mistaken about that. Well, I initially thought it was,
Starting point is 00:22:03 and then I thought it was a bloke with long hair, to be honest, sometimes you can't tell, although I can't imagine that the trans lobby go down too well in a room like that, given Chari a law? Yeah, I think it is quite chilling. What interests me is who leaked that footage because it seems like everyone who was in that room
Starting point is 00:22:25 was obviously on the same side. So who would be leaking that to the press unless that was the plan all along. They want us to know. Well, in order to make people, they want you to know what they're doing and the government wants you to know what they're doing And what's Jeremy Corbyn doing there?
Starting point is 00:22:44 I mean, it's pathetic. I mean, is he still standing for the next election? Is he still got a political party? Or does he think anyone's going to vote for him after that? Seriously? I mean, it... But isn't this the shocking thing, though? The only way that he can stay politically relevant
Starting point is 00:23:04 is to now back Islamists, to back sectarian politics? Well, go after the Muslim vote. I suppose because it is growing stronger and as we know they they are they are good at that they are good at sticking together the solidarity is the thing that they've got the the problem with with you know the the population as it stands without the Muslim population is they're not very good at that you know all the political parties that we've got that are supposed to be you know helping out the the the the white British people and the and the people who are kind
Starting point is 00:23:42 a bit worried about this behaviour from this massive and increasing Muslim population in the UK. And we, you know, there just is no kind of unity. And yet, you know, you've got to give them credit for that. They do. They do unite. They do stick together. And they do get it done. That's why it is chilling.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And that's why it's very worrying. That we even know about that meeting happening, especially with the flags like the Palestinian flags, I think, were taken down and then put back up. And it's, you know, it's uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable to watch, but I think we were supposed to see it. And on the same day, I believe, Stama, all he's doing is going around telling everyone the division in the UK is toxic and it's all down to reform. It's like, well, seriously, who is he talking to? I was talking to Dr. Dr. what's his name?
Starting point is 00:24:41 Oh, yes. But where did he do it? McGiv? And this is what is so significant to me because we look at Adel Ray, right, who now works at our former employer. I mean, how far has woke ITV fallen? So he stays on the sofa as someone who's propagating Sharia law. And this interview this morning, McGiff, was on my old show, on the Lorraine show. I mean on Lorraine seriously I mean it has fallen it's it's weird how people like him can say things like that and yet if Tommy Robinson or anyone like him whispers anything about you know the the Christian population the Christian beliefs have got to unite then you know he's held up for racism and and God knows what else for no reason and it is this is the interview Yeah, that's exactly it, the one I saw. It's like he feels really unsafe in this country, this guy. As a brown person, and Stama's going, well, the division is toxic. But you're fueling it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 They are fueling it. They're causing it and they're fueling it. And whatever goes on that shouldn't be allowed to go on, they're allowing it to happen. It's like the Bell Hotel. And what about the Jews, Carol, too? I mean, come on. You know, he speaks about brown people. I would argue that if you are a Jewish person in the United Kingdom at the moment,
Starting point is 00:26:15 you feel more unsafe than you have since the Holocaust, right? So, you know, that's just completely ignored. Yeah, I think, I mean, I've a lot of Jewish friends, and they all say the same thing. It does feel uncomfortable being, especially in London and in Birmingham as well. You know, like what happened at the football? I mean, Aston Villa, it's much, much worse, I would say. But it's nothing has ever said about that.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Nothing has done about that. And this sort of stuff carries on. And it's endorsed and it's held up. And anybody who criticises it, you know, you're criticizing it. I'm criticising it. You know, what's going to happen to us? Something, I guess. Well, they want to criminalise us.
Starting point is 00:27:05 that's what they want to do. They literally, Carol, want to make the discussion that we are having right now. And people have to understand this. They want to make this discussion, McGiff, illegal. That's not paranoia. That's not hysteria. That is literally the plan of the Islamophobia law, especially by the way, the folk on the left of Labor, the likes of Angela Raina. Well, of course, that's the only way they're going to.
Starting point is 00:27:35 stop it, I think, or unless they force you to have some kind of balance where you've got to get someone else involved on the show who holds the opposite view and agrees with Adil Ray and Ameri Khan and all of those MPs, the Muslim MPs and all the Muslim mayors, unless you have someone like that doing it. But, McGiff, come on, think of the concerns
Starting point is 00:28:01 they had about you on loose women, right? because, you know, you're a bit of a MAGA supporter and you're anti-lockdown and anti-fact. You know, they can't deal with that, but shari allure, you know, the big heading of women, you know, throwing gay men off the top of buildings. Absolutely fine. Come and have a spot on our sofa. And do you know what, McGiff?
Starting point is 00:28:23 I remember when all of a sudden Adder Ray came out of nowhere and was like beloved by ITV. And I always thought, what's this about? You know, he's not a journalist. he has absolutely no journalistic experience whatsoever. They wanted a Muslim presenter. I thought he was a quiz show host or something like that. He had done comedy beforehand.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Doesn't he do a quiz show on... He does now. He does now. Oh, yeah. Oh, great, another job. And, you know, don't fall into the trap that Joey Barton fell into you know, and accuse him of maybe getting the job because, you know, I wouldn't dare do that.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But you've got to wonder, haven't you? It's like another box being ticked. Carol, we'll lock you up for that. We'll lock you up for that. He has got to be convicted for that, hasn't it, for the football commentator. And it's like, you know, I mean, we've said it before. It's like, you know, you've got to wonder how many people
Starting point is 00:29:30 are getting the jobs for those reasons. That's apparently grossly offensive now to say that someone is a DEI hire in the United Kingdom. Well, do you know what? Carol, I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. Adel Ray is a DEI hire. He always was.
Starting point is 00:29:49 It was very obvious to me. Because why else do you bring someone in who's got absolutely no journalistic credibility or experience to host your morning news show? It's obvious. to be. Offs is at ITV, I would love to know what the answer is. You know, what made you, what made you to have a look at this guy?
Starting point is 00:30:13 What made you, you know, look at him, spot him and bring him in from, you know, almost nowhere. And I doubt very much they could even answer that question. Well, it's like this new doctor, isn't it? Dr. Amir Khan. You know, so, so they're getting rid of Dr. Hillary, but they're loving this Dr. Amer Khan. Well, no, we've got our own issues with Dr. Hillary. But you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:30:42 You know what I'm saying, Carol. You know what I'm saying. It's all pretty obvious. Yeah, at the same time, all the lefties care about this week, have you noticed, all they care about is defending the indefensible at the British Bashing Corporation. They are on mass now attempting to suggest that what was quite clearly electoral interference,
Starting point is 00:31:10 a legal and fraudulent electoral interference by our national broadcaster when it came to the totally despicable editing of Donald Trump's January 6th speech, is not a big deal. And you can just imagine how I feel seeing this when the same people literally drove me off air for laughing at a joke by Lawrence Fox
Starting point is 00:31:37 but because we have such a corrupted media class in this country such a corrupted MSM, Tim Davy is being treated like a hero despite the fact he is potentially the director general who will end up destroying the BBC. watch him arrive with such arrogance today at the corporation headquarters. Just want to say a couple of things. I'm here to lead and support the BBC. I'm very, very proud of our journalists in this building.
Starting point is 00:32:11 They're doing work, I think, that's incredibly important. I want to thank every one of them. They're doing a wonderful job. Also, everyone across the BBC doing their thing for the UK. And personally, I'm here to lead and support them. is going to be thriving and I support everyone at the team. I'm very proud of them. Thank you very much. How will you be responding to Mr. Trump's absolutely infuriating. The arrogance, the complete tone-diff nature of the fact that this is an organisation in the gutter. And there's so much
Starting point is 00:32:44 that paints a picture of racism, by the way, anti-right racism at the BBC. Look at this from the Daily Telegraph today. Life inside the BBC. You felt you had to apologize for being white and middle class. Yet James O'Brien, James O'Brien, the man who spent three years suggesting that Boris Johnson should lose his job for accepting a birthday cake has absolutely no problem with electoral interference and dodgy journalism from the British Bashing Corporation watch.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You could sit here on a morning like this and think, why are they so exercised by the BBC? Why do they care so much? Why are they turning this relative molehill into an enormous mountain? They can't help themselves. Anybody not doing the bidding of that cabal or whatever you want to call it,
Starting point is 00:33:35 that in this case, Trump's supporting corruptocracy. Here's my next guest, Nigel Farrell. What? On what possible planet is he a valid contributor to a conversation about this? He's on the BBC more than David Dimbleby was in his question time days. And what the BBC don't realise is that these people,
Starting point is 00:33:52 People want their destruction. And they think that by feeding them or tickling them or appeasing them, they'll somehow be able to see off the threat. But it's an existential threat because they hate any media outlet that doesn't doff cap, tug forlock and do what they want. And what about Alistair Campbell, who remember when to war over his dodgy dossier, attacked the BBC back then when it was him who took us into an illegal war.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Now he thinks it's the BBC that needs to toughen up. Writing the real weakness of the BBC as exemplified by recent events is its failure to stand up to ludicrous claims from the right, that it is somehow hugely biased to the left. Listening to telegraph journalists bleat about a bias BBC or reform MPs enjoying more platforming than any minority party in history underlines that this is the work of right-wing journalists and owners working hand-in-glove with right-wing forces inside the BBC to undermine it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 The Labour government needs to help the BBC stand up for itself and clear out those forces that want the BBC to fail. Now, just a reminder, right, this was the electoral interference on full display at the BBC. I want to remind everyone, because it's so important of exactly what they did with Trump's speech. We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you, and we fight. We fight like hell. We're going to walk down to the Capitol. and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But those losers from the fake news agents, Emily Maitl's John Sopal and Lewis Goodall, who are literally, by the way, they're so unaware of the fact they are the walking, talking evidence of how corrupted the British Passion Corporation is, given they all used to work. They're pretending to be impartial while pushing left-wing bile are still. Making excuses. Watch. My point is that when Michael Prescott, who is the external advisor who had been advising the BBC on impartiality, wrote his dossier, which we now know was leaked to the Daily Telegraph, and in it he said it materially, the programme materially misled viewers,
Starting point is 00:36:09 I think you have to step back. I think you have to really step back. And actually, I've read that dossier in full now. And it is not very obvious that he is an interesting. independent, impartial advisor. You know, for four years, I covered the Trump's first term as the BBC's North America editor. Our guiding light was, be very careful and then be very bold. So when you've got firm judgments to make, make them, but do them on the most solid of foundations. You do not edit two different clips together.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Now, why didn't the BBC apologise last week for it? And that's the fascinating bit of politics that's gone on here. There is a benign explanation that Samir Shah, the chairman, felt his first duty was to write to the DCMS chair, which seems to me such a, if that's true, what a miscalculation. It was obvious that Trump was going to seize on it, and Caroline Levitt, the White House spokesperson would leap on it, and sure enough they have.
Starting point is 00:37:06 The more sinister explanation, and this is, I think, gets to the heart of where the BBC is now, is that this was a battle between, Those on the board who wanted more than just an apology, a whoopsie daisy, that was a bad edit, but who wanted a sort of surrender document. They wanted to say, we've made a mistake here and we do have a problem with impartiality in the BBC structurally. And that is something that BBC news bosses absolutely flatly reject, including Deborah Tennis this morning when she was walking into the building for perhaps her last time. I feel like I've been living in a parallel universe for the last 24 hours. The hysteria over this story, whipped up by commercial organizations, newspapers, MAGA, the rest of it,
Starting point is 00:37:56 the sort of hard-right online ecosystem that we talk about all the time. All that have an agenda is something to behold. That edit in question, John, you're right. It was a mistake. It was clearly misjudged. But the idea that it is an example of institutional bias against Trump is absurd. Did you notice Emily Maitlis has her serious face on? Serious face.
Starting point is 00:38:22 As Christopher Snowden said, of three former BBC journalists who do a left-wing podcast in which they talk about how much they hate Trump, says there is no bias at the BBC, that's good enough for me. They are literally the walking, talking proof of the bias at the BBC. Matt Goodwin posted on this. All I see are a lot of booed.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Sumer soft-left legacy media journalist complaining because they know they can no longer shove their bias down our throats and call it news or fact-checking. Most of the coverage by the BBC and its allies is utterly unhinged. This is not a coup, this is not a right-wing plot, this is not Boris Johnson, this is not Robbie Gibb. This is about a taxpayer-funded broadcaster which on everything from immigration to trans, British history to Israel, Donald Trump to our borders, has relentlessly pursued a systematically biased liberal progressive group think that represents no more than 15% of the country and which is now being called out. And you know what? I just say thank God for Donald
Starting point is 00:39:24 Trump. Thank God for Donald Trump, whose lawyer made clear to Ben Leo on G.B. News that if this deadline is not met by Friday at 10pm, UK time, he is going further. What? $1,000 is what would initially be sought in the event that the president is forced to proceed with litigation. If ultimately the lawsuit plays itself out, the damages will be based on the evidence that we established and the harm that's been caused by the BBC's actions. And so it's a process where the president is going to lay out his demand and allow the evidence to establish and support the actual damage. that he has suffered, that his reputation has suffered, and that the BBC has caused. Okay. And that would happen, that case pursuing a billion dollars, would happen if, what, the BBC don't respond by Friday? What do you want them to respond with? What are you looking for?
Starting point is 00:40:25 What is the President looking for by that Friday deadline? The letter completely states our position with respect to what transpired, as well as what the president seats, which are three things. Number one, a full and complete retraction of the defamatory statements made by the BBC, two, an apology to the President for engaging in such intentional and biased reporting, and three, a monetary settlement proposal to be made by the BBC in order to remedy the financial harm that they cause the President to suffer as a result of their intentional conduct. Okay, and if they don't respond, you'll pursue this case for the full billion dollars, which you argue is worthy of the reputational and financial harm, yes?
Starting point is 00:41:08 If they don't respond, then we will be left with no alternative but to enforce the president's legal and equitable rights. And it'll be up to the president to decide how and when he seeks to do so. Okay. Brilliant. I mean, what you really see with this whole British bashing corporation debate is good and evil, right? So you see the evil from Ed Davy, the leader of the Lidd Dems, who is saying that actually this is all about Nigel Farage and the fact that we must not give into those like Nigel Farage. who want to destroy the BBC, as the use of Chairman of Reform UK responded just Ed Davy saying the quiet part out loud, he thinks the BBC is there to stop Farage. And what about this
Starting point is 00:41:48 exchange between John Simpson and Sharon Davies? Simpson posted nowhere in the hysterical pile on against the BBC and the British press. Has anyone mentioned that BBC News now has 77 million viewers and listeners in the US and has established itself as the second most trusted news source there? But Sharon replied, so very disappointing, John. I wonder. looked up to you. Your dismissive attitude to women's loss of rights and your choice of words is sad. Extreme biased presenting by the BBC has happened in sport, an area I know well. It has been truly anti-women and disgusting misogyny. And Carol McGiffon, that's what's so interesting about this, right? It's so much more than the Trump clip. Like the Trump clip is appalling. It is an obvious
Starting point is 00:42:38 example to me of a fraudulent attempt at electoral interference without any doubt. And given their massive audience in the US, which they boast about all the time, I think Trump is right to sue in Florida, right? Because that's where he can go for a billion. But it's just the beginning, Carol. I mean, come on. Think of what they were like on the trans issue. And Sharon Davies is a presenter for the BBC Olympic swimming coverage. And she's like, what are you saying? So what do you make of this attempt by the left to try and I think excuse the inexcusable? There's a hell of a lot of gaslighting going on now, isn't there? It's like, oh, the BBC isn't left by us.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It is so biased to the left. It is, it's too, it's so obvious. It's embarrassing. I don't know how they think they can get away with it. I mean, they have got away with it up until now, I suppose, because, I mean, and this, this is, this is, almost the best thing that's ever happened. And thank God it happened to Trump because he will do something about it
Starting point is 00:43:44 and I hope he does. And people have been saying for a long time, you know, it needs shutting down, it needs reform, it needs, you know, who still pays their license fee? I don't know many people who do because they're so disgusted with the way the BBC lectures people
Starting point is 00:44:00 and they are so biased to the left. It's interesting as well. I don't know if you, well, you probably did, but the letter from, from Mr. Shah. He's like a controller at the BBC. The chairman, yes. The chairman, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So did you read his reasoning or his excuse or whatever it was for editing the clip? I mean, it is unbelievable. The way he says the purpose of editing the clip was to convey the message of the speech made by President Trump so that Panorama's audience could better understand how it had been received by President Trump's supporters
Starting point is 00:44:42 and what was happening on the ground at that time. I mean, that was a way of justified it. And the left are literally tying themselves in knots trying to defend this decision that they've done. I don't know if you saw Susanna Reid on GMB arguing with Richard Madeley and basically saying as a form of justification for editing the clip.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, but he did say both of those things. It's like, well, yeah, but they were like nearly an hour apart or something like that. I mean, it really is. It's almost comical. And I'm really enjoying it, to be honest. I'm really enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Me too. And I mean, this chairman, Samir Shah, Carol, who you bring up, he has no idea of the seriousness of this. Like, he has no idea that Trump has stared down the biggest corporations in America, Disney, CBS. Like, the factors, there are still people within the BBC who genuinely think that they can win this against Trump.
Starting point is 00:45:48 They are delusional. Like, you've got this deadline. Friday, 5pm Eastern Time. You need to apologise now. You need to come to a proper financial arrangement because this is going to end very, very badly for you. But part of me wants that to happen, Carol, because maybe it would be the end of the BBC.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah, I do want it to happen. I want to see it because Trump, let's face it, Trump is the most demonized and attacked person in politics in our lifetimes seriously with, you know, the fake Russian collusion and all of all of that, the Russian interference in 2016. And, you know, he's hounded all of the time. And to do this and to make out,
Starting point is 00:46:34 it is ruiners of a reputation to say that he, incited an insurrection. And the left have been working on that for, you know, since it happened. And they've been trying to blame Trump. And now they've been found out he did not incite anything. He was going to walk with those people. I mean, it's brilliant, actually. It's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And I'd love to know how this all came out. Who discovered this, this edit and who leaked it? because it's obviously someone at the BBC who's pissed off as well. 100%. I mean, there are these few people on the board. And ironically, they of course were people who were put on the board during the time that the Conservatives were in power who do understand that it is a crooked biased organisation.
Starting point is 00:47:24 But what's so funny to me is people like John Soapel and Nate listening to everyone, they keep talking about Robbie Gibb. They hate this man, Robbie Gibb, because he was very involved in the early days of GB News. But he's also someone who held serious roles at the BBC before. He just doesn't want the BBC to be left wing. And that makes him the Antichrist. You know, the BBC is genuinely meant to be impartial. So the whole thing is just complete and utter insanity.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Breaking right now, a massive legal victory for Katie Hopkins, who has been cleared by the police after months of hell, after being arrested, threatened with jail, forced to attend a police interview for wait for it, describing herself as a spaz during her famous Katie's Arms pub. Now, I know through my own conversations with Katie, this has taken a real toll on her, but she has also used this opportunity to speak about the fact that eventually those of us on the side of free speech will just see our enemies be destroyed her particular cases in point to Phillips Schofield, Holly Willoughby and some of the loose women. But we're going to get to her defence in Joey Barton of just one moment.
Starting point is 00:48:48 But first, this is the hilarious and emotional moment that she revealed the news about the fact that she is no longer facing police charges for calling herself a spas. So I'm back here at Devonan and Cornwall Police Headquarters. In May 2025, I was threatened with arrest if I didn't turn up to be interviewed under caution and my alleged crime was hurty words. On my own pub night, the Katie's Arms, about myself because I called myself a spas. So I had to come here and be interviewed under caution. over an hour by two members of CID representing Devon and Cornwall and Dorset.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Like Dorset doesn't have its own problems without dealing with me. For seven months I have been interviewed, told charges were pending, awaiting charges to finally find out there's no charges to face. I would like to state three things. Number one, my grateful thanks to the Free Speech Union for their support and commitment to my free speech and that of others. Most legal types won't touch me in case they catch cancel culture off me, but the free speech union were there every step of the way and continue to be. The second point is that the process is the punishment. This may seem like a joke.
Starting point is 00:50:17 In fact, it is a joke, but at the same time, I need to turn up every day. I cannot let my ticket holders down and I have a team that depend on me for their income and I will not let them down and this plays havoc with that because you have to prepare and I'm very clear point three I am a spas I will continue to state that boldly so that others who are going through their own issues know that they can fit in I say all the best of us are weird and I think it's my job to create chaos so that more people out there who don't necessarily fit into the regular mould can feel like they belong. I will end with this. Please consider supporting the free speech union. Maybe not for me. It's not for me. I have my voice and I have a platform. But consider supporting for the
Starting point is 00:51:15 hundreds of others that they're out there for defending their free speech and who are benefiting from their help. Thank you very much indeed, and no thanks at all to Devon and Cornwall Police. I would urge you to focus on real criminals committing real crimes and delivering better value for people paying their counsel tax. Here, here, absolutely. This was a joke. But the thing is, I totally agree with what Katie's saying, you can't just laugh this off. Because unfortunately, there are some of us in this free speech movement who do end up going down. Look at Tommy Robinson and now look at Joey Barton, the former footballer convicted, convicted in court, facing sentencing next month for criticizing folk,
Starting point is 00:52:09 for criticizing Inay Aloko and Lucy Ward for being useful, useless football pundits, for criticizing Jeremy Vine. And what is so brilliant about Katie Hopkins is that after her complete cancellation, she is always going to be there for those of us who are caught up in these free speech outrages. So this is what she had to say about Barton's conviction. He has to go back to court on the 8th of December to find out the sentencing. What will be the penalty that he has to pay for the crime of right. tweets on Twitter. I mean, it sounds insane because it actually is. The court found, and I want to quote this, that he crossed the line between speech and a crime. A line was crossed between free speech and a crime. But of course, you can't draw that line because this isn't metrics. This doesn't have any metrics to back it up.
Starting point is 00:53:18 there is no system, no points-based analytics where you draw the line. There is no measurement of the line. The line is anywhere that someone feels. The line is nebulous. What is offensive versus grossly offensive and who decides? When I say stuff that's offensive to some people, other people find it funny. Maybe you find it funny, maybe you find it hilarious. Someone over there finds it offensive. Someone over there finds it grossly offensive. How can he possibly have crossed the line when you can't draw the line and if you tried to articulate the line, you couldn't. Now she had particularly tough words for Jeremy Vine
Starting point is 00:53:56 who has now been really sort of central to the conviction of two of her friends, Alex Belfield and now Joey Barton. Watch. I wonder specifically about Jeremy Vine, A guy that goes around on a bike with cameras attached to his helmet so he can humiliate other motorists who are usually just trying to crack on with their day. A guy that got my friend Alex Belfield put into prison for a term of five years for words,
Starting point is 00:54:31 emails, messages, whatever. A guy that wears stilettos and think that's funny and has done many curious things and seems to take pleasure in persecuting other people. I don't understand that way of thinking. I don't think it's nice, and I don't think it should be rewarded by now sentencing Joey Barton. But Katie did have some advice to Joey. She's always great at being there for people in their lowest moments.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And her advice was, just be patient. And here's why. And I really, I'm certain that ours is the side to be on. and I'm certain that if you wait long enough by the river, bodies of your enemies come floating by. And I've had the pleasure of watching Phil Schofield, all of the Moose women, Holly Willoughby, so many heads of the BBC, head of BBC news, Director General of the BBC. I'm having quite a lot of fun waiting by the river, Joey. So if you want to come join me here on the riverbank, we'll just wait
Starting point is 00:55:48 for the next body to come floating by. Carol McGiffin, that's a new one to me, the Moose women. I'm sure she wasn't referring to you, by the way. I'm sure you are the exception to that rule. But given what she has gone through, you can completely understand, right, why she feels this Charlem Freud. Oh, oh, absolutely. You know, Trump might be. the first number one person who's hounded and demonised in the world but she could be number two in competition with Tommy Robinson
Starting point is 00:56:20 but yeah she has been through a lot and she I think in that same clip or one of those clips she was saying about how you know how you do have to fight it you have to fight it when she fought that case and lost absolutely everything
Starting point is 00:56:37 her home almost her family everything but she had to fight the case, you know, in court. I know she lost, but look at the way she's come back. I mean, she is quite extraordinary. She is an extraordinary human being.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And so if she wants to call herself a spas, you know, she has had half her skull sawn off and, you know, there's lots of things. You know, people should be able to call themselves at least what they want to call themselves. And so good for her for getting off, but she's right. But Carol, I would even go one step further though, right? If she wanted to call someone else a spas, we could say rude, you know, maybe a little bit offensive.
Starting point is 00:57:21 But do we really want our police to be spending time investigating that? Of course we don't stop patrolling our language. We're allowed to be, I would argue, grossly offensive. Yeah, who is it who said, I think it was Ricky Chavez. No one has the right to not be something. like that was it so no one has the right to not be offended you know people say things if you and katie says as well if you if you choose to be offended that's your problem you know most people aren't offended by what she says and it and if you are then that's your problem it's got
Starting point is 00:58:00 nothing to do with the law and nothing to do with the police but it is it's it's this awful sinister online harms bill isn't it that there is that underlies all of this and and and it makes everyone scared. And they make examples of people like Joey Barton and Casey Hopkins and Tommy Robinson and whoever else, like Lucy Connolly, I suppose. And they make examples of these people so that you won't say anything
Starting point is 00:58:28 and other people won't say anything because they don't want to hear any kind of opposition and they want everyone to follow their narrative. And you have to agree with everything that they say. And she articulates that really, really, well. And I just want to know, how long do you have to sit by the river before James O'Brien close? Oh, come on. We're still waiting, aren't we? We're still waiting. Speaking of James O'Brien, this Eni Aloku appeared on LBC. She's sort of doing a media around. This is what
Starting point is 00:59:02 shocks me so much. It's like she's doing a media around celebrating Joey Barton's conviction. and what's so fascinating is seemingly blaming him for the end of her career. Now, Carrey, you know I'm not a big football guy, right? But by all accounts, all of the punditry that I saw of this woman was like terrible. And not everyone can be a TV presenter, okay? Not everyone can be a good pundit.
Starting point is 00:59:27 She seems to have been a particularly bad one. But because of her victim mentality, that was all the fault of Joey Barton and that was why he deserved to be convicted. Watch this interview on LBC. I've done the least amount of work that I've ever done during this two-year period of this litigation and you know I've I've been fortunate to be a regular pundit and broadcaster since 2014 so you know and I don't think that's a
Starting point is 00:59:55 coincidence I do think there is a sense of you know you get labelled as controversial you know by certain certain sort of sections of football broadcasting and you know I think there's a there's a reticence to try and deal with the issues at hand, which, you know, unfortunately are, you know, sexism, you know, racism. Racism in your case as well, wasn't it? In my case, misogyny. And so, you know, I've been quite open about saying, you know, forget, you know, whether I'm going to continue or not.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I think moving forward, if this happens again, you want to see a stronger stance from broadcasters to say, and consistently say, this is not acceptable. You know, we have to make sure our talent feels safe. and protected in doing their job. And McGiff, what I would say to that is that one of the reasons why there is going to be this pushback, especially with the mainstream broadcasters, is that as we have discussed before, you know, the population is 4 to 5% black, but if you look at the representation on a lot of
Starting point is 01:00:58 TV shows, including your former TV show, including an advertisements, you know, Sarah Poachin from Reform UK, got in big trouble for it. But very often there's over 50% black representation. Yeah, in all areas now of the media, I would say. I've never heard of her before. I've never seen her. I'm not a football fan at all, so I wouldn't, I mean, especially women's football, you know, and I can say that because I'm a woman.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I never, ever want to see a women's football match. Oh, you sexist. You big old sexist. I know. Get out and see, listen to someone commentating on. I've never understood the commentary anyway. But for her to make out that all of her problems are down to Joey Barton because he had the temerity to criticise her as a bad pundit is, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:54 I mean, it's the typical victim mentality, but the victim here is Joey Barton. And, you know, whatever he said, it might have been clumsy, it might have been, you know, some people might have been a little bit offended by, or disagreed with him, but he doesn't deserve to be convicted of whatever he said. It's like Katie Hopkins said. It's just words.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And exactly, Brendan O'Neill saying it's the commission of Joe Biden. Of course it is. You are policing speech. You are policing thought. You know, and that's Joey Barton's thoughts. He might have vocalized them, but why shouldn't he be allowed to?
Starting point is 01:02:36 I mean, I think it's, I think it is chilling. It's really, really, it's scarce. And I repeat again, it's only ever people on the right. Have you noticed that, Carol, the so-called right? You know, I mean, interestingly, Joey Barton would have probably used to have considered himself a left-wing guy, you know, in the past, but he's certainly anti-woke. But you never see it happen to Owen Jones, you never see it happen to James O'Brien, you never see it happen to Iqbal Muhammad, you know, all of these people,
Starting point is 01:03:03 Zara Sultanah, Dawn Butler, you know, just a moment. Imagine if any of them were being investigated by police for their speech. And trust me, their speech is as grossly offensive and as vile as Joey Barton. But they know they're safe. They know they're protected. But to stress, I'm not saying that they should be investigated either. I'm saying no one should be. That is the critical thing. We have to stop this concept of investigating people for speech, including speech, that shock, horror is offensive. Sometimes it's meant to be. Developing today, Axt Talk TV host, Mike Graham, is back.
Starting point is 01:03:47 He may not be on air on Talk TV and probably never will be again, but he has awarded his first plank of the week since being suspended for a so-called racist post on Facebook, which remember he insists he did not make. You won't be surprised to see who received the not so prestigious gong Mike Graham posting overnight. What an absolute plank in reference to Nick Robinson and the current British Bashing Corporation scandal. But for every day that Mike Graham has kept off air, the fury and the outrage from Talk TV viewers and listeners grows, as does the boycott of the station. And there was a really uncomfortable moment
Starting point is 01:04:37 on air this morning between Jeremy Kyle, who is in the awkward position. And by the way, I'm not criticizing Jeremy Kyle. It's a difficult one. He's best mates with Mike, but he has been asked by station's management to fill in hosting the breakfast show. He's had to cancel his live event with Mike Graham, which was meant to be taking place next month. At this point, it's going to be held in May. So it's a difficult position all round. But Isabel Oakshot, who's a regular pundit on the station, certainly not in the Mike Graham camp, made, I thought, a really inappropriate jive at the fact that she was speaking to Jeremy rather than Mike live on air this morning. Watch this. So, Isabel Oakeshaw, how are you? Good morning. Well, I'm still getting used to seeing you at this time of the morning.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Well, there's an answer to that, but I'm not doing on national radio. You see, many people are saying to me. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha. I mean, Carol McGiffin, that isn't a good look, is it, when you have your entire audience up and arms boycotting the station and there's sort of like a little double entendre, a bit of a joke at Mike Graham's expense going on?
Starting point is 01:05:48 I just thought the timing of that and the tone of that was completely off. Yeah, they, yeah, they can't help themselves. but good on Jeremy Carford not saying anything but even responding to her comment was a little bit inappropriate and you're right all over Twitter all over you know everywhere on social media
Starting point is 01:06:13 people there are so many people who say no Mike Graham, no talk they're not watching it listening to it or anything and isn't Kevin O'Sullivan getting done for something as well? Yeah, by the off-communist that's the thing. It's like they come for one, McGiff, and then they immediately move on to the next. And this is why the station management is like, stand by your people.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Do you know what I mean? Stand by your people because it's like, Mike Graham's gone, everyone's happy. Oh, so now they're coming for Kevin O'Sullivan. You know, the off-communists have found in breach of him. And that's exactly the same thing that happened at G.B. News. They never, they never just stop. And actually, it's only powerful management that says, okay, maybe Mike Graham made a bit of an offensive pose.
Starting point is 01:06:59 maybe we don't believe he was hacked. But you know what? There's a long service here. We're not going to cancel him and destroy his bloody life for a singular mistake giving in to a left-wing campaign. Yeah, why?
Starting point is 01:07:14 Why are they? What's going on at Talk TV? It's supposed to be, you know, don't they call it the home of free speech or, you know, what Mike Graham used to call it all the time? It's like... Yeah, but Carol, I've had to live. literally now switch off comments on their own ex posts. So it's not really the home of free speech
Starting point is 01:07:37 anymore. No, no, it definitely isn't. And what's going on there? It looks like what happened at GB News, doesn't it? It's like to get rid of all your most popular presenters, replace them with, you know, somewhat anodyne, you know, safe people who won't offend anyone or do anything, do anything wrong. you know, I don't know if Mike sent that message or not. He says not. So, you know, you've got to take his word for it, I suppose. But it's whatever is going on there, they don't deserve him. You know, I'm not particularly a big fan of Mike's,
Starting point is 01:08:12 but I know that there are many people out there who are. And talk TV, talk radio, whatever it is, they don't deserve him. And a lot of what we talked about this last time I was on your show, he should definitely go independent. He should end up in your space some. where not your actual space, but, you know, somewhere alongside that area where he can get his own thing going and his fans will follow. There's absolutely no doubt about that. So Talk TV deserve this downfall, which is clearly coming because they're engineering it for some reason.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah, totally, because they want to go woke, Carol. They believe the money is with woke advertisers. and because there was, I know, but because the talk sport presenters who are now woke didn't want to share the floor with Mike Graham, they sort of backed him. Now, he has appeared on video for the first time. A lot of people were quite worried about Mike. I mean, I'm actually told Carol he's doing well, but I had a lot of people saying after watching this video yesterday, gosh, he looks tired, he looks drawn. And all I will say, and you know, I've been there on a personal basis, not professionally
Starting point is 01:09:20 speaking to Mike, of course, because I'm reporting on the story. and I think it's fair that I report on it fairly and that I cover both sides of it. But personally, I know what it's like when you're going through something like this. You feel a deep sense of betrayal and you feel like everyone's turned on you and you're scared about the future. So it does take a toll. I actually do think, though, he is doing well. But this was the video that sparked some of the concern, Carol.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Watch this. Good morning. I'm Mike Graham. And I just wanted to say a special heartfelt thank you to all of you, brilliant listeners and viewers who have sent me some of the most fantastic messages of support over the last couple of weeks. I really appreciate it. I've read every single one and they really do give me great encouragement. So thank you again. I also wanted to say a personal apology about having to cancel the show at the Sheffield Bridge Empire,
Starting point is 01:10:08 the world of common sense this week. But don't worry, it'll be back next May, May the 26th to be precise. So we will see you then. Meanwhile, I'll see you soon. Carol, what do you think? I mean, it's just very hard. isn't it? Because he clearly has so much he wants to say. But because there's the legal battle going on, he can't. Well, I don't know if he's, you know, it's taken his toll on him, you know, physically or, but he looks, he looks smaller.
Starting point is 01:10:36 He looks much smaller. He obviously hasn't got the professional lighting that he would normally have. But I was encouraged by his last line. And it was kind of like the little pause before it, and I'll see you soon, is it's kind of, I don't know, like telling you something. I think that's probably why he's put that out there. But I don't know, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:10:58 I mean, he looks more diminutive to me. I mean, he's been trying to lose weight anyway, right? And he'd lost weight before he had finished up on talk. And I mean, you know, you know what I'm like to, Carol. I mean, it's my constant battle in life, isn't it? So I have huge sympathy because, like, Mike, I like my food. I like my drink and I say good on my, you know, for dropping some of the pounds. And I think maybe that's why people were surprised.
Starting point is 01:11:27 But look, it does take a toll. It does take a toll going through something like this because you feel this sense of, oh, these people who I thought were my friends, who I thought should stand by me are not. But I agree with you. I genuinely think, you know, it's probably only going to take six months. maybe a year, he'll turn around and realize this is a great blessing. But you need people who are going to say that. So, for example, with me, and I always big these people up, you know, because I'll never forget it. They didn't need to be there supporting me and encouraging me.
Starting point is 01:12:04 But two people who had been really successful in the space, Dan Bongino, who is now actually deputy director of the FBI, which is all very bizarre. But, you know, at the time, he was like the number one independent guy on Rumble in the US. And I remember we had a mutual friend and I spoke to him over the period when I was sort of silenced and off air. And he was so disappointed with what G.B. News had done. He said G.B. News folded quicker than a cheap suit. But he said, trust me, Dan, this is going to be the best thing for you. You're going to be in a yacht on a couple of years' time thanking me for going down this path. Because he's like, this is just, It's worked for me so well being independent because remember he had left Fox News. He had quit Fox News. He wasn't actually canceled. He was canceled by YouTube, but he had chosen to leave Fox News because he knew the importance of being independent. And that would be my message to Mike as well. Like, yeah, it seems difficult at the moment. But actually, you've just been given the biggest blessing because there is no future anymore. If you want to tell the truth about this country, and I believe that Mike probably does, and don't
Starting point is 01:13:16 get me wrong, Carol. I do disagree with him, for example, on his position when it comes to Tommy Robinson, which I think is wrong. You know, he's called Tommy racist, and you know how I feel about people who do that, but so has Julia Hartley Brewer, so has Camilla Tomine. But I genuinely think Mike will be able to explore a lot of these issues, which let's be honest, it's what his post that Godham's Sacked was about, whether he posted or not, that's what it was about. You know, should we allow this takeover of our country? And of course it wasn't artfully expressed, but the point is you actually can't have those conversations
Starting point is 01:13:56 in the mainstream media anymore. You just can't because you're just called racist and you're silenced. Yeah, but also you don't, I don't know, you don't know, nobody knows really if the views that you know, you're questioning, you know, say about Tommy Robinson and quite a few other things actually in the past few years, How do we know that he hasn't engineered those comments or those views in order to please someone who might have, you know, who knows?
Starting point is 01:14:26 You know, it's amazing what people will do. Just look at, you know, most of the loose women. They will tailor their opinions. And I've said this a number of times. I'm pretty sure there are a few loose women on there who probably agree with a lot of the things I say, but they would never dare say it. So they have tailored their views and their opinions because of their jobs. And who knows if Mike was doing that? Because he was obviously, you know, quite well-renumerated.
Starting point is 01:14:55 So why wouldn't he? But, you know, you're right. I can't wait for him to go independent. He's going to have to because I can't see him actually getting employed. No, G.B. News wouldn't touch him. You know, they've gone soft. They've gone woke. So LBC wouldn't touch him.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Exactly. So do it. Carol, do you know what? I've got to end with something today. This has just dropped. So I haven't watched this yet. I have a feeling it's going to infuriate you. So do you remember Pierce Morgan, who you've had your rouse with over the years in regards to vaccination? Do you remember when Novak Djokovic was so revoltingly removed from Australia? Do you remember that? Because he hadn't had the vaccine and they didn't let him compete in the Australian Open. And Pearce Morgan said the most terrible things about Novak Djokovic. Like, terrible things. Like he did have done everyone, everyone who didn't agree with him over the vaccine. And Novak Djokovic was probably the most famous person who didn't endorse the vaccine and didn't take the vaccine and was prepared to let his career suffer as a result of it.
Starting point is 01:16:07 And good for him. Totally. But, I mean, we were saying at the time, though, he was a hero. I mean, I was literally. literally on G.B. News every single day, regardless of the backlash, and I know you were too, saying, he is a hero. I mean, I wrote columns about how disgusted I was with what Australia had done. Like, you know, it's not like everyone was going down the Piers Morgan path. And Novak Djokovic, and I don't know why he's done this, if I'm completely honest, has just agreed to sit down
Starting point is 01:16:33 with Piers Morgan face to face. But Morgan has had to issue a grovelling upon. As I say, this has just dropped this moment. So let's watch this together, Carol, and maybe enjoy it, maybe enjoy peers having to say sorry. Tell it. Making an apology. And it's for this, is I was very censorious about you over the COVID scandal that you got caught up in. And in a nutshell, you got thrown out of Australia over what seemed to be on the face of it from what the media were being told and what was being reported. was you trying to bend the rules of getting into playing Australian open
Starting point is 01:17:15 without having taken the COVID vaccine. And I was actually quite censorious about a lot of people at the time. And I've since apologised to some people for being too tough on them. Because once it became clear that if you had the vaccine, it made no difference to whether you could then transmit the virus. Clearly, at that point for me, it becomes a personal choice. if the potential danger is irrelevant compared to whether you have the jab or not. And so I have, on that basis, said, like, I believe the vaccines were important.
Starting point is 01:17:50 I think they saved a lot of lives. I had lots of people in my life at the time that were going through a terrible time of COVID. One of my co-workers on the morning show I was doing, a husband was in a coma from COVID. He sadly died. A friend of mine said goodbye to her mother on FaceTime. He was in a care home and died from COVID and so on. I knew lots of people. So it felt quite personal.
Starting point is 01:18:14 It felt quite visceral to me. But I was too censorious. And when more information emerged about your situation, the fact you'd had COVID several weeks before you went to Australia. You hadn't actually done anything wrong on the form filling. The fact that in the end it became a political decision to throw you out based on likely public anger if they didn't take action. When I look back on that and reflect on that, I would like to say I'm sorry for the intemperate language I used against you, because I didn't know you.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I took what I was reading and hearing at face value. It turned out to be more complicated. And yeah, I'm sorry for over-regging the rhetorical souffle. I appreciate that very much. Let me get that off my chest. Your honesty, thank you so much. It was difficult times. and you know state of emergency globally I understand you know we've been through we've been
Starting point is 01:19:12 through hell globally all of us on this planet and uh the only thing I would add not to really dig deeper into this this whole situation on on the COVID and vaccination is that I never I was never a proponent of anti-vax or pro-vax I was always freedom of choice so and that was misinterpreted you know i was proclaimed to be you know one side or the other side or so forth it's either black or white and i said you know it doesn't need to be that way as an athlete as someone that you know takes care of the integrity of the body and and an understanding of obviously doing my research and understanding that i'm not a threat to anybody and i don't need to do it myself and i've been through two times two or three times i've covered in like a year year and a half so i had all
Starting point is 01:20:00 all the antibodies, etc. So anyway, long story short, good to see you here. Good to finally meet you and I appreciate and I respect the fact that, you know, what you said, it speaks volumes about the person that you are. Does it really, Carol? No, no, no, no. It bloody well doesn't. It doesn't go anywhere near it because peers Morgan is still being dishonest you know when he says oh you know it all turned out to be different to what we were told he didn't believe any of that shit in the first place i do not believe that he believed any of it but he said it because either because he thought it would be popular to say it or he thought that that's what most people wanted to hear him say or there were other reasons for that i i don't know but you know and actually i'm a bit disappointed
Starting point is 01:20:53 with Novak Djokovic there as well because he's being a bit like, you know, acting as though there was always a danger. I never thought there was a danger and never believed there was a danger. And the most dangerous thing about COVID, in my view, and it always has been my view, was the vaccine. That was the most dangerous thing about it. And I still think that.
Starting point is 01:21:18 And I think Piers Morgan knows that as well. And I don't even think he would have taken. in it. But he just said all those things and he demonised Novak Djokovic so badly and other people. Well, he demonised you, didn't he? You guys blocked each other over that period? Or he blocked you? Yeah, he could offer me a bloody apology on a silver platter with a 50 million pound check and I still wouldn't accept it. I mean, that's what I don't understand like Novak, why do you feel you have to go and sit down with it? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Bict disappointing, but, you know, anyway, not surprised.
Starting point is 01:21:57 No, I knew that would annoy you, McGiff. I knew that would annoy you. But as I say, that's literally just job. So, so I had to get your reaction. It's fun it. Carol McGiffin, podcast, super, where can we get your podcast, Carol? Well, it's on all the best podcast outlets, Spotify, Amazon, Global Player. It's made by Global Player.
Starting point is 01:22:21 And, yeah, go and listen to it. It's funny sometimes. In fact, it's funny. It's very funny. What's your problem is the name, by the way? What's your problem with Nick Abbott and Carol McGiffon? And of course, she is also a columnist in Best magazine too. And we love having you on outspoken, Carol.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Thank you so much. And we are going to reveal today's greatest Britain Union jackass in just one moment. First of your comments, though, big reaction today to this leaked footage of Vikbal Muhammad. Joe to Jill says, does the Islamic takeover include Jeremy Corbin, what on earth is he thinking? Well, yes, it does, unfortunately. Adrian Smith says end postal voting for those without proper justification for needing them and the Islamist insurgency into politics will end. Hallelujah. Seriously, Adrian, it has to end. Postal voting honestly should be limited to people who are in hospital, incapacitated or overseas serving in the
Starting point is 01:23:17 military. That is it. The fraud going on is out of control. Where Star Media says as an Aston Villa fan, I felt so sorry that the Israel fans were not allowed in the stadium worrying times for Birmingham. Alex Pudentine says I'm in the US Navy and I'm so proud of the uprising in England lately. Take your country back. England has so much to be proud of. We are rooting for you. Thank you, Alex. We need that.
Starting point is 01:23:44 We need that support from you, freedom-loving Americans. Okay, quick reminder of the Union Jackass nominees today, Tim Davy, nominated by It's Only Me 44. Director General, we know why. Emily Maitlis, nominated by Janus B133 for gaslighting us about the BBC and Samir Shah, the BBC chairman, nominated by Tony K, for clearly not understanding the gravity of this situation or how deep the bias is. Okay, the results are in in third place with 14% of the vote, Emily Thornbury. Close battle at the top, but the runner-up, Samar Shah, with 39% of the vote. But today's, Union Jackass, the arrogant outgoing Director General of the BBC with 47% of the vote, Tim Davy.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And on a similar theme today, today's Greatest Britain, nominated by Ian Draper 84. And it's honorary today, an honorary Greatest Britain for Donald Trump for threatening to sue the BBC for 100 million Buccourneys. Okay, we're moving over to Substack now for the Uncanceled Aftershow. Huge amount of Royal News today. Big emotional interview from Prince William has been. just dropped. We're going to show you the highlights. Plus Angela Levin is going to hit back at Megan Markle's co-star, who has said some terrible things about her. So come and join us at
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