Dan Wootton Outspoken - ISLAMIST TAKEOVER OF MANCHESTER ELECTION DIVIDES UK AS NIGEL FARAGE & ZACK POLANSKI ACCUSED

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Polls are open in the most consequential, divisive and chilling by-election in British history as voters in Gorton and Denton will determine if Slippery Starmer will receive a stay... of execution as Prime Minister. But what is undeniable is that this horrifying contest represents the Islamist takeover of UK politics as hard-left woketopians and Muslim extremists team up to usher in an era of sectarian politics that may soon be impossible to reverse. However, the right is divided too, with independent journalists in Gorton and Denton being banned from speaking to Reform UK and Nigel Farage’s closest former allies claiming he is controlled opposition. So thank God for Mike Tindall, the Royal Family member and Princess Anne’s son-in-law who has infuriated the country’s worst lefties by donning a Make England Great Again cap. Dan will outline the realities of the Gorton and Denton vote regardless of who wins in the Digest. Then my Superstar Panel are here: Two brilliant independent journalists – Lee Harris of Addicted2News and Emma Dunwell of E Speaks Freely. PLUS: BBC shamed over its failure to cover Rupert Lowe’s Inquiry, as the Corporation’s pathetic excuse is slammed. AND: Soham murderer Ian Huntley fighting for his life in hospital after being attacked with an iron bar in a workshop this morning. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s amputee and Hamas shame on their dire fake royal tour of the Middle East. We’ll have all the latest with our Royal Mastermind and the Duke’s biographer Angela Levin. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 435. And breaking right now, polls are open in the most consequential, divisive and chilling by-election in British history. As voters in Gorton and Denton in Manchester will determine if Sipri Stama will receive a stay of execution as Prime Minister. But more importantly, what is undeniable is that this horrifying contest, represents the Islamist takeover of UK politics as hard-left woketopians and Muslims extremists team up in an unholy alliance to usher in an era of sectarian politics that is going to be impossible to reverse. ... or Instagram that you've been fasting for a day.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Can you tell us a bit about why you decided to do that? Yeah, I think it's really, it's always really lovely that I'm always included in the celebrations, like with my Muslim friends and neighbours. Matt Goodwin. They're just perves. Keep your noses out of our bloody fannies. Fuck off. Literally, fuck off. And I don't want you to walk around thinking that because a tiny minority of you are horrible racist scumbags that I think the majority of you are. We need to defeat reform and we need to defeat the far right. The Greens are by far the best place to do this and have the best record in opposing the rise of racist.
Starting point is 00:01:34 are in any form within our society. Shame on the bastards that got us to this place. However, the right is divided too. With independent journalists in Gorton and Denton being banned from speaking to Reform UK, indeed the party reported to have called the police on young Bob, and Nigel Farage's closest former allies
Starting point is 00:01:53 claiming he is controlled opposition. What are reforms policies that would make them racist? The qualities that would make them racist, Yeah. It's not really a question of qualities. It's a question of... Policies, sorry. Polices? Oh, I mean... No, I haven't got time to discuss all their policies. Nigel is controlled opposition. He is there to make sure it doesn't all get out of the hand. So I'll show you what happened when young Bob confronted Richard Tice
Starting point is 00:02:30 and when the police admitted that Reform UK had called the cops on him. Honestly, it's all kicking off in Gorton and Denton today and you won't get this coverage the mainstream media who are completely controlled on a by-election day by the off-communists. I have to say, though, amidst all of this, thank God, thank God for Mike Tyndall, the Royal Family Member, Princess Anne's son-in-law, the sound and based ex-rugby star who has infuriated the country's worst lefties by donning a make England great again cap. So I'm going to get into that and outline the realities of the Gorton and Denton vote
Starting point is 00:03:04 regardless of who wins in my digest next. Then my superstar panel are here, and they're not controlled either. Two brilliant independent journalists, Lee Harris of Addicted to News and Emma Dunwell of E speaks freely. Also coming up on the show today, the BBC is shamed over its failure to cover Rupert Lowe's inquiry, as the corporation's pathetic excuse is slammed. Soam murderer Ian Huntley is fighting for his life in hospital. After being attacked with an iron bar in a workshop this morning, we'll bring you the latest details.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And good morning, Britain's Martin Lewis is exposed by furious colleagues at Wokey TV after his cocky ambush of Tory leader, Kemi Badenock. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show, which is over on Substack after the main show, Megan Markle and Prince Harry's amputee and Hamas shame on their dire fake tour of the Middle East, we'll have all the latest with our Royal Mastermind and the Duke's biographer, Angela Levin. It's also the last greatest Britain and Union Jackass of the week, You can vote right now for your worst Britain in the world today in the live chat on YouTube. Here are your nominees.
Starting point is 00:04:13 John Healey, nominated by Lee Harris for misleading parliament about an imminent legal threat to Diego Garcia. Lee says that was a lie. Prince Harry, he's my nomination today for that embarrassing fake royal too, which even has links now to Hamas. And Emma Dunwell has nominated Jack Cooper. she says he is the home office statistician responsible for publishing figures showing the number of asylum seekers being housed temporarily in UK hotels has fallen to the lowest level for 18 months. But as Emma has pointed out, what it fails to mention is that this decline is primarily due to asylum seekers being moved into other accommodations such as disused army bases, social housing
Starting point is 00:04:58 and HMOs. She says this is very misleading. So three very different choices for you today. Get voting in the live channel on YouTube. Keep your comments coming in through the show. But now, let's go. As the UK is plunged into its most divisive and chilling by-election in our history, as hard-left woke politics and as extreme Islamists link up in an unholy alliance to usher in an era of sectarian politics that I think is going to be impossible to reverse,
Starting point is 00:05:32 it was a low-key member of the royal family, providing the message Patriots so desperately need. Yes, step forward, Princess and son-in-law Mike Tyndall, a sound and based ex-rugby star who donned a mega cap in his most recent podcast. Now, of course, the Royal Family are playing it all down. Oh, you know, they say it's just about our rugby team's fortunes. But the sight of a popular royal seeming to concede that we in the disunited kids, kingdom were in a period of decline and needing our own Trump-like figure to make England great again struck a real chord. And it also wound up all the right people, like Green Nusson, or into court, who raised Princess Anne, son-in-law Mike Tynewer, wearing a Make England Great Again cap. People excusing this as rugby
Starting point is 00:06:26 connected. I did not look at that and think rugby. I thought Maga, this isn't a good look coming from the royal family, pretty low. But Lauren the end. insider replied with the views of many of us, telling Norenda, you're right, Norenda, this isn't a good look for the royal family. It's a bloody, brilliant look. Who knows? Maybe he's already signed up to restore, and we'll also attend United Kingdom on the 18th of May. genuinely, the sign of hope is patriots needed, and it is coming from Mike Tyndall. Love him even more now, and he was already a legend before the hat. And I have to say Mike Tyndall is a legend, because I have it on very good authority that Mike Tyndall was one of those biggest campaigners
Starting point is 00:07:08 inside the British royal family backing Prince William and Catherine the Princess of Wales over Prince Harry and Meghan Muckwell, they used to be very close, Harry and Mike, but Mike can't stand, Megan, can't stand the wokeery and I say, good on you, Mike, make England great again. I loved that hat. But amidst the horror of the Gorton and Denton by-election
Starting point is 00:07:32 and the Islamist takeover that we as a country have allowed to happen thanks to our bastard elite class, the deranged woke left continues to prove to be the enemies of the people. Like the BBC's Nihal Arfanaki, who once said that working with white people at the corporation, made him depressed. And he now has this patronising message, for the United Kingdom's Caucasian men. This is a message for bald, middle-aged, white men.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I do not think that you are all racists. And I don't want you to walk around thinking that because a tiny minority of you are horrible racist scumbags that I think the majority of you are because I think we can all agree that tarnishing an entire group of people because of the heinous acts of a minority of them would be an incredibly stupid way to carry on.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So, bald white men, your struggle is my struggle. Oh, piss off, you absolute wanker. Seriously, when you're talking about horrible, divisive men, you could be describing yourself. Oh yeah, and racist too. As Caucasian man Neil Sean responded, total Nusser, could not get over and being dumbed. by the BBC and the fact that he failed to become famous, so now he's taken to do this.
Starting point is 00:09:09 May he's another dud. But the hard left are coming together in Dawson and Gorton and Denton to try and deny Matt Goodwin and Reform UK an unlikely victory by backing the Green extremist candidate. The truly decrepit Marina Perkis and Jamiforte are leading the charge with gross claims. And as Charlotte Gill revealed overnight, they are part of the movement forward, a tactical voting group telling people to vote green in Gorton and Denton. Other promoters include, wait for it, the worst people in the country, Carol Vorderman, Femiola Wolley and Super Tanski. Just watch their desperate anti-Mack Goodwin tactics. They're just perves. Keep your noses out of our bloody fannies. Goodwin has got a
Starting point is 00:09:53 plan for girls. He wants them to be taught to have babies early. Oh my God. He's basically saying that he wants women, girls, sorry, girls, to understand their biological clock. to understand like that it's ticking and they need to be having children earlier. I think we do. As the mother of a daughter, I wouldn't dream of imposing my views upon my daughter. You have to learn someone I don't know. My daughter is 21. She is living her life.
Starting point is 00:10:28 She has her own mind. Her womb is her womb. Her life is her life. And whatever she plans to do with that or not, is her business. No, it's not. It's Matt Goodwin's business, Gemma. Not my Goodwin's business. It's not her mother's business. Let alone, Matt Goodwin. They just perves. Keep your noses out of our bloody fanny's. Fuck off. Literally, fuck off. There is a growing alliance of these nutters.
Starting point is 00:10:55 It's been announced today that Jeremy Corbyn is to become the parliamentary leader of your party, beating his rival Zara Sultanah in a vote. And that news came just after he endorsed the Greens in the by-election. Watch. As of elections, I know the last few hours and polling day itself are absolutely crucial. People's minds are concentrated and they're about to cast their vote. Very important thing to do. I'm supporting Hannah Spencer to be elected.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Why? Because we need to defeat reform and we need to defeat the far wrong. The Greens are by far the best place to do this and have the best record in opposing the rise of racism in any form within our society. We are getting behind her because we don't need another Reform MP in Parliament, spouting their divisive message of hate. Let's build a society that works for all and respects all. Tomorrow, cast your vote if you're able to, for Hannah Spencer and ensure that reform are are defeated in this election. So why are they doing this?
Starting point is 00:12:09 Well, because it's a dead heat in the polls between the Greens, Reform UK and Labour. So Matt Goodwin is Beggy. He's just Beggy now. Can't blame him, really. He says there's a big margin of error on constituency polls. Every vote counts. Reform 1, Recorn and Halsby. By six votes, that's of course true.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And Reform supporter Rayal Braverman added, the Gorton by-election will be decided by the slimmest of margins, a solitary vote cast for any party to the right other than Reform UK risks fracturing the vote and delivering victory to the Green Party. In contests such as this, the arithmetic is unforgiving. If those who seek a different cause for the country disperse their support, they should not be surprised when the outcome is a win for the divisive socialist. I do just have to say, though, this is the issue that Reform UK have in the fact that they have turned so far. hard on those of us to the right of them. It becomes difficult that they're asking for our vote now in a by-election. But look at this. Look at this. Shocking campaign material that has been released by the Greens entirely in Urdu and Bangla. This is what we're up against. And their tit-whisper
Starting point is 00:13:22 leader, Zach Polanski, has actually been boasting about it while going to war with people he derides as, quote, right-wing trolls like Talk TV's Julia Hartley Brewer, who challenged him. him over his party's Israel hate. By asking, genocide is indeed a very serious matters, Pallansky, but there isn't and hasn't been a genocide in Gaza, so why do you insist on wittering on about something that hasn't happened? Palanski replied, because people should obviously take advice from awful reactionaries who earn money spouting hateful opinions, rather than listen to actual genocide scholars and the obvious evidence in front of our eyes. The establishment is trying to lash back. We know what to do. Vote green.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Meanwhile, Green Party activists have distributed a campaign leaflet in Gorton and Denton on you're not going to believe this, why you should vote green from an Islamic perspective. Gido Forks reported green activists promoting an online article suggesting Muslims should vote for the Green Party to forward the interest and values of British Muslims. A piece on website Islam 2.1c by Sheikh Dr. Hafam al-Hadad asks, if Labour really deserve Muslim support after having contributed to the hostile environment against British Muslims
Starting point is 00:14:38 and adds the large number of Muslim voters in Gorton and Denton have a unique opportunity to make a powerful impact by taking part in this election. A green victory in Gorton and Denton could force Labour to take more positive steps that match with the interests and values of people of conscience nationwide, including British Muslims,
Starting point is 00:14:58 and disempowered the growing far right. The piece has some passages dedicated to coates conservative Muslims into voting for a party with otherwise progressive views because votes impact Muslims globally. We should also remember that Muslims are not supposed to act on their whims and desires, but rather on the basis of our Islamic principles. We need to think not only about which candidates will meet our local concerns, like protecting the NHS, making housing and living more affordable and improving community safety, but also look at the bigger picture. We have to ask ourselves how the law way we vote can impact Muslims globally. After all, we have a moral responsibility to these brothers
Starting point is 00:15:38 and sisters as well. The point here is that even though we may not always feel comfortable with some of the social values that British political parties and candidates align with, these issues can be overlooked in pursuit of more urgent matters, for instance, protecting our brothers and sisters facing genocide in Gaza, or at the very least reducing harm against them. Against this backdrop, the Muslim voters in Gorton and Dent in a front and centre in this national conversation, it is as if Allah had favoured these brothers and sisters with the ability to make a decision that could help decide the whole country's long-term future. The piece has been shared by a Muslim organiser to activists who says a green organizer contribute to it and it makes quite a compelling
Starting point is 00:16:21 case to vote green in the constituency from an Islamic perspective. Hmm. So basically, this is what I've always said, Islamists think about themselves and their religion always, and basically, they're prepared to ignore the fact that the Green Party want to legalise all drugs, that the Green Party are trans extremists, that they embrace LGBT propaganda, they're prepared to look past all of that, because they want to advance Islamism in this country. Now, as for their candidate, oh my goodness, this is her today, today Hannah Spencer. and listen to the type of music she's dancing too. I'm surprised she doesn't have her favoured kaffir on,
Starting point is 00:17:06 but she's an embarrassment, isn't she? And I think in some ways, this white, woke woman, giving into forces who hate her is deeply unsurious, yet represents the sort of suicidal empathy that is actually destroying our country. Watch. Instagram that you've been fasting for a day. Can you tell us a bit about why you decided to do that?
Starting point is 00:17:33 Yeah, I think it's always really lovely that I'm always included in the celebrations like with my Muslim friends and neighbours and whether that's like going to an Ifthar or having Eid celebrations or just like in my job when I'm working in someone's house and there's that spirit of like festivity and everyone's like sharing food and I'll leave the house with like a Tupperware full of things that they'd made the night before. In a time when our Muslim neighbours and friends and communities are under so much a time. Like, it's really nice to sort of do something together and be part of it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I mean, she is a ridiculous figure summed up perfectly here because, come on, we need to laugh amidst all of this by the Intel lady. My mate Jade, yeah, has gone off to make me a brew because, as well as working really, really hard all day, I am also fasting for Ramadan is something I have never done before, but I am really glad that I have tried it. But I have to say, I cannot wait to dunk a wagon wheel into a brew because, wow, it has just been an exhausting day. But while she's making my brew, I'm going to knit next door and teach the kids how to roll off at one because we are determined to put the green back in to Green Party. So vote Green on the 26th of February.
Starting point is 00:18:52 But it is the white, woke green supporters. the hard left who I find most embarrassing, most dangerous. And I want to share with you an interview with one of them by young Bob, an independent journalist who has been on the ground and Gordon and Denton today. So why do you want to stop reform? Because I think that it's bigoted, divisive, racist and really bad for the country. So let's unpack that. What are reforms policies that would make them racist? The qualities that would make them racist? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's not really a question of qualities, it's a question of... Policies, sorry. Polices? Oh, I mean... No, I haven't got time to discuss all their policies now. Do not have one policy? Well, clamping down on refugees, for example. But, you know, being biased against refugees trying to chuck them out of the country.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Pathetic rhetoric. But equally pathetic is the way that Reform UK are dealing with the right. Because you saw earlier you've got Rayall Braverman saying, we've all got to vote for reform. If we're on the right and we don't vote for reform, we're making a huge mistake. Yet the problem is Reform UK have treated so many of us on the right. Tommy Robinson supporters restore Britain.
Starting point is 00:20:25 supporters, those of us that think that they're not doing a good enough job at the moment, that they're tacking to the centre left, that they are hiring too many Tories. We have all been treated like the enemy by Reform UK. So it is a little bit galling today that they're asking for our vote. But young Bob discovered an extraordinary situation where journalists like him had been reported to the police by, wait for it. Reform UK. What? Does it know, allow more distress to anyone?
Starting point is 00:21:02 No, has a report about that? We've been given a call that a group of people are causing issue and they direct it at yourself, so that's what I'm asking. So we've been pointed by, is it Reform HQ? I don't know who they are, but I'm assuming so, yeah. So Reform HQ have called us. No, but I'm just trying to clarify, because a journalist shouldn't be called by the police by reformable people,
Starting point is 00:21:24 especially considering a right-wing political party. So if you ask people questions and they talk back to you, it's wrong. So we're free to just continue asking questions, right? The way of reason, yeah? Yeah, cool. Don't it's like cars a big on the issue. What do you mean by it? What are you mean by it?
Starting point is 00:21:43 What's unreasonable? I don't know. So what issues was young Bob causing exactly? Did Reform UK's deputy leader Richard Tice not like the line of questioning posted? him. Watch. Excellent. Tremendous. Do you feel like you're going to win this by-election? Well, fingers crossed. It's very close.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And what do you think about Layla Cunningham's recent statement that Charlie Downes' restore spokesperson is a neo-Nazi? It's a lovely day in Portland, gentlemen, we're going to win. Fingers crossed. What do you think about fractions on the right wing? Do you feel like that's going to damage
Starting point is 00:22:20 your chances on the national election? We're going to win here, hopefully, but it's going to be close. I mean, the Buckees have the Green Party at 42%. So I do feel like parachuting a candidate that's in St. Albans may have not been your best odds. Richard, will you be getting done by the time we're replaced?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Will you care? Yeah, funny enough, in a son's interview, you said that demographic replacement won't affect you because by then you'd be dead. Do you think it's sensible for a politician to speak about their mortality and say that you shouldn't have long-term policies
Starting point is 00:22:53 to affect this country? Well, if you look at my British sovereign world on policy, that's a hundred-year policy. You said you'll be getting gone so you don't care. No, I mean, I find that so hilarious because the other types of questions, actually, I do want to see Reform UK being asked. And you can see Richard Tice wasn't prepared to go there.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And that's why they do avoid outlets in the independent media or outlets like outspoken on the whole. But to call the police, like, when are you going to learn? Reform UK, when are you going to learn? You called the police on Rupert Lowe and it was a big mistake because now Restore Britain has been launched. And by the way, I've just been looking in the live chat and some of you are saying, well, what about Advance UK? And yes, they are running. They are running in this by-election. And I did have Nick Buckley on the show yesterday because I do think he is a great candidate. Now, I do think, though, we've got to look at the wider implications of this race. Because whoever wins, honestly, British politics has been changed by Gorton and Denton in a terrifying manner. And it has been summed up very well in the Daily Telegraph today by Alistair Heath, who says this abominable by election is a final warning for Britain's democracy. He wrote, we must not become a country where our race or religion determines how we vote.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Where segregated communities live parallel lives and despise each other. where our liberal elites, out of cowardice or suicidal empathy, pretend not to notice. We cannot sleepwalk into becoming Lebanon on Thames. This is an emergency, a last warning, and we must act now. We should start by calling out the Greens for what they have become. A hateful, despicable, extremist party that has identified an entrepreneurial opportunity in weaponising tribalism division, stagnant living standards, misinformation and envy. their behaviour in Gorton and Denton has been abominable.
Starting point is 00:24:57 In a healthier society, our oh-so anti-racist elites would be demanding to know why the Greens were fuelling anti-Jewish and anti-Hindu sentiment and whether extremism and bigotry may be festering among sections of the local community deserving urgent intervention. Yet the establishment finds it easier to treat swaths of our urban areas as if they were a 1920s imperial outpost, where administrators are tasked with keeping a superficial peace between communities, rather than pursuing justice. Equally good was Hugo Tim's, inspiked online, who wrote just how beholden the Greens are to this Islamist bloc was made painfully evident in a recent debate
Starting point is 00:25:46 between the Green candidate Hannah Spencer and Matt Goodwin, the Reform UK candidate on the BBC. Goodwin asked Spencer what she thought was responsible for the 27 Manchester Arena bombing. When Manchester-born Salman Abidi detonated a nail bomb at an Ariana Grande concert, killing himself and 22 others, that Abidi was a jihadist is an uncontested fact. But Spencer could not bring herself to get anywhere near the words Islam or Islamism. Instead, she said Manchester Arena was bombed because people like Goodwin are dividing people. Hugo Thames goes on to say there's a little doubt the Gorton and by-elect, dent in by-election is shaping up to be one of the most consequential of recent times. It hammers another nail in the coffin of the Labour Conservative duopoly and could potentially bring an end to Kirstehmus disastrously inept premiership.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Disturbingly, it also looks set to entrench Islamic sectarianism as an undisputed force in British politics. The danger this poses to our politics and society should not. be underestimated. Now, as for Stama, he did show up for a very brief choreographed visit, but can you believe what he was doing yesterday? I mean, I'm shocked this hasn't got more attention, but it literally has just a few hundred views, a few hundred views on YouTube. But Stama decided his priority yesterday was to answer softball questions from a group of internet influences who I have never heard of and who have a tiny collective following and actually welcomed them into the briefing room by chairing our failed Prime Minister. Watch this. Good afternoon, everyone.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Really nice to see you here in Downing Street. And it is really good to be in a room full of creators for the first of its kind, which is a briefing like this in this room for creators alone. And we've topped up, totted up all the number of your combined followers. Between all of you sitting here in this room, you've got more than 5.5 million
Starting point is 00:28:01 followers. That is really incredible and fantastic. And we made a promise to do things differently as a government and we're following through on that. And one of the things that I think is most different now than it's been for years is the way in which people get their news
Starting point is 00:28:17 and their information. That is changing. It's changing probably faster than most things. More and more people aren't just turning on the television or opening the newspaper. They're unlocking their phones. They're listening to you and people like you, watching you, and turning to the platforms and the creators that they trust the most. And that's really important because trust is really important in politics and it can be fragile. Dan Witten outspoken, Kirstama, and guess what? My invite must have been lost in the post, because you wouldn't want to hear the question that I would ask you, you corrupt fool.
Starting point is 00:28:59 As Lauren the insider pointed out, listen up Fabian Puppet. No credible content creator would ever work with you or listen to you. You've traded British children for votes. Anyone with a moral compass will never forget it. Every creator who was sat in that room is a shill, and they're combined following 5 million. That's it. Estama scraping the barrel trying to look relevant to the TikTok crowd. But what about Reform UK? Even if they do pull off a win for the ages tonight, it won't stop the lingering questions around Farage's commitment to saving Britain.
Starting point is 00:29:36 As the ex-UKIP leader, someone who's known Nigel Farage for 30 years, Gerard Baton, gives us his view on Nigel and the fact that he thinks he is controlled. Controlled opposition. This is a disturbing prediction. Watch. Mostly. I don't agree with everything he says. Nigel is
Starting point is 00:30:01 controlled opposition. He is there to make sure it doesn't all get out of hand. You mark my words. I will have a bet if I can... Well, I did look at having a bet, actually, on who's going to form the next government?
Starting point is 00:30:16 The odds weren't very good. It wasn't working. My prediction is the next government will be formed by... Tory party. They won't necessarily get an outlier majority, but they'll get enough people, enough votes in order to bring the liberal, lip-debs or reform into that group. Nigel won't be Prime Minister. He's got, I don't believe he has any desire to be Prime Minister and he's there to make sure that the Tories win. What he'll do in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:30:43 see if I'm wrong in a few years time. When it comes to the election, you'll say we, we have to stand aside... did in 2019. You did exactly that, and infuriated half of his own party. And I'm convinced that's what you'll do. So if I'm still alive in a few years' time, we'll see if I'm right on. Well, Jared, you've been proven right about Tommy and many other things, and that Brexit was going to be stitched up by the Tories
Starting point is 00:31:09 and that Nigel should have back to us. Now, listen, thank you very much for coming on to Herd immunity news. Legend, Jared Baton. Very interesting. Very interesting. I have to say there was a damning by election day message from Marlon West. the father of a rape gang survivor who said, Farage failed my daughter's trauma for votes.
Starting point is 00:31:29 This was the moment in January 2025 when I was deceived, without any remorse or compassion. I had been assured of a national inquiry into grooming after my hard work following my daughter's grooming and rape in Denton and Gorton. I was elated to be listened to finally. It was all lies. remember, when you vote for Denton and Gorton, reform. They do not care about your children's safety. If you want your children and streets to be safe, join Restore Britain.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Restore Britain, of course, not running in the Gorton and Denton by-election. They were only launched as a political party after the campaign began. Now, the superstar panel. Okay, Lee Harris, Emma Dunwell, it is the calm before the storm. I don't know about you too, but I am staying up tonight. I am waiting for this result. And then, of course, on outspoken tomorrow, we will have all of the best analysis about what has actually happened. Do either of you two want to put your neck on the line? Who do you think's going to get there? Oh, I think it's going to be close. If you believe the more recent polling that we've seen,
Starting point is 00:32:47 does put the green slightly ahead. But yeah, I would. I would. like to see Reform win it. I don't want to see any other party win that seat, especially because how damaging this will be for Kirstama. I think that's probably the worst case scenario for him. It's still bad if the Greens win that seat. Don't get me wrong, but I just don't think it has the same impact as if reforming it. But I think it's going to be very, I think it'd be impossible to call it. But I'll call reform. Why not? What about you, Emma? Yeah. Apparently, Zach Polanski has been overheard on a train today saying that he actually doesn't the Greens chances?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Oh, really? Well, I don't know. I've been kind of worried about the Greens, you know, behind the scenes. I know they've been getting a lot of donations kind of under the table. So I think they're worth definitely keeping an eye on. But I, you know, out of the two,
Starting point is 00:33:36 I would hope that reform get it. It's really interesting to think, though, about almost the fact that it almost doesn't matter who wins is the point I'm trying to make, right? Because Lee, when you look at this, this should be a safe Labour seat. There should be absolutely no doubt. They won over 50% of the vote at the last election.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And regardless of who wins, what we have seen by the Greens over the course of this campaign, the decision to go full-on Islamist basically is the blueprint now that we are going to see in any seat that has a large Muslim population. And this is why Labor is panicking. and this is why Labor is becoming increasingly Islamist. And unfortunately, I now believe we do have sectarian politics. I mean, look at that leafletly that was being distributed in the local community, basically say, oh, yeah, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Don't worry that the Greens don't believe in anything that we do when it comes to social policy, you know, because our pro-trans and pro-women and pro-gay and all of those types of things, because actually all that matters is Gaza and Muslims overseas. Yeah, I couldn't agree. more, I think the Greens represent the very worst of our society. I would also go as far to say they represent everything that is wrong currently with our society. It's been a disgraceful campaign from the Greens. It's nakedly sectarian. Clearly, they're just going after a block vote.
Starting point is 00:35:06 They have no intentional care about the local people of Gorton and Denton. It's been a theme, really, I think, since the October 7th, since what happened in October, the horrific terrorist attack on October 7th, there's been a running theme that a lot of these independent MPs have been running on a Gaza ticket. And what I found we've actually seen a little bit of a clash already. I don't know if you remember there was that hilarious moment with your party, where Zara Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn held their first kind of conference, as it were, to decide on certain policy issues. And there was an immediate clash between Zara Sultana and that side of the party with the independent MPs. clashing over trans rights, but basically calling the independence transphobic.
Starting point is 00:35:54 It's an unholy alliance where the Islamist side of the party will eat up, eat up the greens and the progressives in moments. As soon as they don't need them anymore, they'll be gone. But it's been very ugly. You know, these are the people that call themselves the anti-racists, but in my view, they're the racist ones. They're the divisive ones. You know, my area in Bristol, we've got groups of Greens going around on a dew hunt, door knocking, taking addresses of people who don't necessarily want to boycott Israeli goods. I mean, it is something that's been constantly on my mind. And I think it's been, a light has been shined on it ever more so since the Gorton and Denton by-election.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And it's not good to watch. No, it's just awful. But the problem is Emma Dunwell. As I said in the Digest, right, you've got Reform UK saying, well, no one should vote for any other party on the right. are on the right. But the problem is, Reform UK doesn't seem to want so many of us to be part of the fold. And as an independent journalist, how did you feel about that claim from young Bob? Of course, it seems to have come from the policeman. It hasn't been verified. We've got to be clear on that. But he has a suspicion, and he did report on this last night as well, that Reform UK had actually
Starting point is 00:37:05 reported the independent journalist to the police. Well, obviously, Bob has been very publicly restore. But the thing is, the way we're going with party politics now is it seems that every single time I go on X or I look at the news and see what's going on, it's all just inviting. People are friends one minute, then they're falling out. No one trust anyone. The thing is with reform is they have been undemocratic, well, openly, for a while now. And we've all known it. It's been one of their biggest criticisms, you know, excluding people from the party and essentially kicking them out because of their views on people like Tommy Robinson, for example, and isolating massive voting demographics and really shooting themselves in the foot in that way.
Starting point is 00:37:53 So I think it's really worrying, obviously. I know it's just an allegation. It's not verified at all and it's something to keep an eye on for sure. But I wish I could say that it would be more of a surprise than I think it would actually be, because if they're not democratic inwardly, then they're not democratic outwardly. And there's been a lot of, there's been a lot of, you know, rumors and things like this about NDAs when people were in the party. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was still that element of privacy, regardless of, even though Bob is obviously back in for restore at the moment, he is still right wing and reformer, a right wing party. So you would think that reform wouldn't really have a problem with it.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So if that is the case, then that would be really, really worrying. But there obviously is there is other people that may have called them. So I think it's important to just keep an eye on this one and see where it goes. Lee, do you want to defend reform here at all? Like you said, we don't, genuinely we don't know. I mean, I listen to it just like everyone else. And the police said, I assumed that it was reform. I wouldn't be particularly happy if it was reform.
Starting point is 00:39:00 The only slight defence I'd put in, and it isn't really a defence, is I have done this. I've been on the ground on the day of, on election day. and if you've ever done it, it's genuinely one of the hardest things you have to do. You're up at 6 o'clock in the morning and you're on your feet until 2, 3, 4 o'clock the following day. So probably the last thing that they want is someone there doing interviews, because you're literally full on all day. It's not really much of a defence. I know young Bob, just like you guys do.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I think he's a great lad. His heart's in the right place. So I would be very surprised if reform didn't actually welcome him in. and show him what they're doing for the day. Take him canvassing. It's good fun. I enjoy canvassing. So not really a defence, but let's wait and see, like Emma said.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It really does seem like the establishment right-wing media and reform UK are terrified, though, of Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain and everything that he's doing. We see constant propaganda coming, especially from GB News and talk TV. but I do wonder if today they have gone too far because the Jeremy Kyle show, the breakfast show on Talk TV appeared to engineer some type of hit piece against Rupert Lope not for the launch of his Restore Britain political party but instead the rape gang inquiry. And that is a very odd thing to do in my view
Starting point is 00:40:34 given, let's just remember the background for a moment, it was Nigel Farage that initially promised to launch the rape gang inquiry independently. He failed to do so. And so once Rupert had split from the party, he came in and said, well, I'm going to do it. I'm going to raise the money to do it. It was interesting to see Robert Jenrick on Talk TV this morning, now a member of Reform UK, saying, well, we'll do it once we're in government. Rupert's already done it, though. And what's interesting is that it's not just the usual suspects who are noticing this. I mean, we saw John Cleese, the hard leftist, back Rupert Lowe on this. And overnight, Bear Grills, real big celebrity has decided to back Rupert Lowe to. That was after he posted this shocking
Starting point is 00:41:19 testimony from a rape gang survivor, which read it was all of the white girls in every home that I went to, and I mean I've seen girls locked. I remember a man opening the back of a van, and I saw maybe 15 to 20 girls locked in dog cages, looked like they're on drugs. And their girls replied saying, is this really happening in our country? Surely the police are onto this now. Well, I wish they were.
Starting point is 00:41:43 So it seems like a very odd thing for Talk TV to decide to go after Rupert Lowe for the rape gang inquiry, but in an investigation by Samara Gill, on air the small. That is exactly what happened. I will point out, though, since this broadcast, they have now deleted this report from their social media feeds after a massive backlash. Watch this. I meant to see me and my nann and a few over my family members and we were expecting somewhere to come from it for me for my mum's story. We're expecting a bit more exposure, obviously. And obviously we thought he was going to do something. It's not obviously I know. He's not the police. He's not the CPI. He can't.
Starting point is 00:42:34 arrest me dad do what them type of things but from what I've seen online it seems to me that him all the stuff that's going on now I respect the rape gang inquiry I do respect it because at the same time it might not be me you're helping other people but to me it's like you're doing it for votes and I aren't interested in that I don't I don't associate with any of that if you're using my mum's story and me for votes I won't be involved in it at all the brave young man the the clamour for a national rape inquiry continues. He's also referencing Rupert Lowe there, who actually bit him off. Who has independently done this.
Starting point is 00:43:13 He, what? Rupert Lowe actually didn't, Rupert Lowe ghosted him, which is very interesting information. So I thought Rupert Lowe was setting up his own independent. Well, apparently he brushed him off. Rupert Lowe made them come down there, take photos with him, and then Rupert Lowe never contacted them again. Now, this is all alleged. We're going to, obviously.
Starting point is 00:43:31 We'll put that to Rupert Lowe. We can come and have that discussion. But shows you a little bit of behind the scenes maybe of just how optically illusionary some of these sort of grooming gangs inquiries are. I'm sorry, I don't like doing this, but that was terrible reporting. Terrible journalism.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And in their desire to try and bring down Rupert Lowe and restore Britain using the rape gang inquiry, talk TV hadn't checked their facts. And my understanding is that the initial report was complete bullshit. The person who was being interviewed had been invited to participate in the rape gang inquiry and refuse to engage. Talk TV, my belief is that they did not even bother going to restore Britain or the rape gang inquiry for a comment or to find out the truth. and so after being threatened with legal action have now been forced to take down the erroneous report, which suggests they were not prepared to defend it in court if that had become necessary.
Starting point is 00:44:45 So not only is that bad journalism, I think it really does show that it's the mainstream right, which are continuing to find ways to try and attack Rupert Lowe, attack Restore Britain. We saw it with Laila Cunningham's neo-Nazi claim on G.B. News. And now we've seen it with this false reporting on Talk TV today. To my superstar panel, the independent journalist Lee Harris and Emma Dunwell, E speaks freely. So Emma, I'm sorry, this is a really bad look, a really bad look for Talk TV. Yeah, no, it's not good, but it was only, is it just over a week ago,
Starting point is 00:45:22 that Alex Phillips was blowing up at Young Bob and Charlie Downs once again over the war. going on between reform and restore. I mean, if you want to back for one political party, fine, but you should be clear on that. And I'm getting a bit tired of talk TV, just trying to pretend that they're not just complete shills for reform, to the point of one of their hosts getting really erratic and emotional, at a 17-year-old lad, let's remember, Bob is 17,
Starting point is 00:45:57 and she got so emotional and so erratic, And then, yeah, obviously we've had Layla's claims of the neo-Nazi. That has caused massive upbroad and backlash, not only legally, but online as well. The voting bases are going at each other now. So this is doing no one any good. And then if you actually look at the core of it, what are these, if you look at Talk TV and GB News, what were they actually originally here for? They were supposed to offer a fair platform for right-leaning voices.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yes. But now they're not doing that anymore. Exactly. Like I was absolutely fundamental in the establishment of G.B. News. I don't think anyone denies that. I was the second presenter announced to go to the station after Andrew Neal. And I was the first regular show hosted on the station again after Andrew Neal's launch show. And it was absolutely clear to me as a launch presenter that GB News was not going to support any political party.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You remember at the launch of GB News, the Conservatives were in power, and Boris Johnson was doing crazy stuff in terms of COVID and lockdowns, and I challenged that from day one. But I also gave a platform to Nigel Farage before anyone, but we were never going to take a side. And it was the same thing at Talk TV, actually. We were very independent. So I'm sad to see what's happening, Lee. And I know you love these channels, Lee, and you've always been very supportive, including when I was at GB News. And I do appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:47:23 But I think the problem that I have, Lee, is that I know a lot. of examples of GV News presenters, but let's stick to talk TV here because the other ones have done this investigation who have been sending lots of messages behind the scenes to restore Britain people saying you're making a big mistake, you should stick with Reform UK. And I don't understand why presenters who pretend to be independent on air should be acting as party operatives behind the scenes. I think it's disingenuous. I think you need to be honest with your audience. Yeah, I definitely agree with you on that. And with a great to talk TV and this kind of almost hit piece that they did poor form very poor form I'm glad
Starting point is 00:48:03 to hear that they pulled it down and I didn't even know they pulled it down because the last thing I heard it was still up and well I think they were threatened well rightly so if they've got their facts straight you know anyone can do an interview and just say whatever they like and if they're going to present that without doing their their research that's very bad form I will stand up a little bit for Gb news with regards to what was just said about the the rape gang inquiry I myself have been very supportive of Rupert's rape gang inquiry. I think he's done a fantastic job. I wish it was a statutory inquiry, but I think what he did was very meaningful and very helpful for those, all of those involved. Now, G.B. News covered that rape gang inquiry every single
Starting point is 00:48:40 day. Various different presenters did it. It wasn't just a single presenter. So I was actually very pleased to see that GB News was probably the only station who chose to shed some light on it. And I think Patrick did. I think Michel Jubri did. They made a point of talking about it in their monologues. So they do deserve some credit for covering it. But the people who deserve the most credit are the survivors who took part in Rupert's inquiry. Rupert and his team deserve a lot of credit. I was glad to see that there was some cross-party support as well. So he had Robert Jenrick taking part and some various Conservative MPs at the time. I think who have now also moved over to reform have also taken part. I was glad to it.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I wish more people had been more supportive of it. And I think the BBC have been absolutely shameful, just like everything else that they do. It doesn't fit their narrative. It doesn't fit their agenda. So therefore, they're not going to cover it. Well, I'm so glad you raised that, actually, Lee, because we now have the formal BBC response into why they refused to cancel the rape gang inquiry, why they refused to provide absolutely no coverage of it. And I think the response is pathetic.
Starting point is 00:49:59 So let me just take you through it. It was Ben Toto, who posted. The BBC just published their official response to complaints about ignoring Rupert Loz Rape Gang Inquiry, their excuse limited resources. But he points out that during the same 10 days, they found resources for Mandelson Epstein, their bulletin every day,
Starting point is 00:50:17 Prince Andrew Continuous Coverage, Winter Olympics wall to wall, Palestine Action Court ruling. Bank of England rates, but not for survivors raped by 6 to 700 men each. Girls trafficked to Pakistan as sex slaves. Eid rapes, white girls targeted as religious celebration. NHS staff ignored 13-year-old girls with STDs and miscarriages. Senior police officers must have known. It can bay about of abuse across dozens of towns and cities. But here's the BBC statement. we have limited resources, and it is not possible to report on every story which is of interest to our audiences. We know that not everyone will agree with our choices over what to cover or the prominent stories are given.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Our news editors make these complex decisions based on their editorial merit and the other stories in the news that day. These decisions are made for editorial and practical reasons and should not be taken as indicative of bias. You're shaking your head at that response, Emma. I mean, it's just pathetic and such a disgust in, kind of disturbing excuse, because it's almost like they don't know that everyone remembers that they weren't afraid to splash the cash to rebuild that Eric Gill statue outside the headquarters. And considering that most of the stories that they're avoiding to cover involve sexual abuse scandals, particularly of children, I think it's rather telling of the ideology at the core of the BBC, which we've all known for ages. I mean, they defend pedophiles and they restore and now protect statues that were built by pedophiles. Well, they've actually harbored some of Britain's worst ever paedophiles. I mean, Jimmy Saville operated in plain sight for decades.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And then, until very recently, Hugh Edwards was operating within Plainside announcing the district of Queen, please. Very quickly, I found it offensive what they put, you know, to somehow, compare that the rapes of thousands of young girls to covering the Winter Olympics. I'm sorry, whoever wrote that press release should be fired. Absolutely disgraceful. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, totally, totally. The other thing I think that is going to be difficulty, though, for all of the media in the mainstream,
Starting point is 00:52:38 including on the right, is how do they deal with the rise of Restore Britain? How long can they keep on ignoring Restore Britain, especially given there's this news, that Ant Middleton has now held talks with Rupert Lowe. He says politics will be his next career for the rest of his life. And I mean, indeed, he is absolutely determined to run as the Mayor of London. This is what he told me very recently on outspoken. Mayor of London. You're confident about this, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:53:13 You're serious about this too. Do you know what, Dan? I think it's so needed. If I had to said five, six years ago that I was running for me, London, they'll just shut up, hand, go back to your TV work, you know, go back to your sort of team building, team bonding, your motivational stuff. But the time right now and the layout of the land, you know, we have a severe identity crisis, a severe culture crisis and a severe law and order crisis. And when it comes to culture, which is Christian, British values, models,
Starting point is 00:53:46 principles, you know, which again is our rich history. I'm proud of that. We need to bring that back to the forefront. Also, safety and security. I'm an ex-special forces operator. I know everything there needs, that I need to know that needs to be known about safety and security. And you look at the state of London, that clip that you just shown in London, that's happening on a daily basis. This is, you know, someone that's just got their phone out. It's not even making the mainstream news anymore because it's so common. And it's just absolutely saddening to watch this happen
Starting point is 00:54:19 in our Crown Jewel, our capital city of England. So something's got to be done, and I think with the layout of the land as it is right now, a bit of a bit of patriotic leadership is needed, but safety and security above all.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I mean, Lee, I think of Ant Middleton signs for Restore Britain. It's game on, isn't it, given that Reform UK's Merrill candidate, Layla Cunningham, has had, I would argue, a pretty disastrous couple of weeks. She hasn't had a great couple of weeks, but I completely love Anne. I think he'd be a fantastic mayor of London.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I also think it'd be great in politics in general. I agree with a lot of what he says. I am a little bit surprised, though, to be honest, listening to an interview with his brother recently, who explained that Anne is very passionate, obviously, about politics, but he really wanted to do this as an independent and not sort of necessarily be a long- Yeah, and he said that to me too.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Party, yeah. And also that he's, I don't think, the impression I get, I don't know, Ant, but I've met him very briefly at the United Kingdom Rally. But the impression I get of him is that he, maybe he's a little bit like me, kind of believes that we're all on the same team, roughly pointing in the same direction. He's had a meal with Nigel Fras very recently. He doesn't attack Reform UK, even though they drop them. Yeah, and I kind of get that. You know, where are I set on this whole Reform, Restore thing? I love Restore.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I love Rupert Lowe. I actually don't, yeah, I was a little bit worried about potential vote splitting, but I just don't think we're anywhere near worrying about vote splitting at this stage of restores progress of where they are. I think that anything that keeps Nigel Farage on his toes and keeps him clean, as it were, is a good thing. And I have no problem with that. I do have maybe a slight problem with the infighting, which we've all said. I think we probably all agree with that. It's not being great.
Starting point is 00:56:09 It has been very much on both sides. I've been called all kinds of names. I'm not massively pro-reform. I'm not massively pro-restore. My loyalty lies with this country. And I get that very sense from Ant as well, that his loyalty just is deeply lies with England, keeping us all safe.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And my God, we could do with the mayor of London, like Aunt Middleton without a show. I think he's absolutely the man for the job. Emmett, what do you think about Ant potentially going with Restore? Well, I think that he would be a fantastic mayor. I think he's exactly what politics needs in general. I mean, I think he has exactly the right kind of strong, noble mindset that we need at the moment, definitely in Parliament. However, I do think that it should be as an independent.
Starting point is 00:56:56 As I kind of alluded to earlier, party politics is just getting very boring, very repetitive, very bitter. and it seems to be that not only is the infighting accelerating, but it's getting worse to the point now where we can't even pull ourselves together in time for an election. It feels that way, at least, because everyone's still bickering. So I do think that it would be better for him to go as an independent because, I mean, I start to doubt if the answer is really in the Houses of Parliament now anyway.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I mean, you know, we've just kind of found out, with the Epstein files. We just kind of found out that all the conspiracy theorists are right and the world is in fact run by satanic pedophiles and we're all just still, you know, just getting up and going to work and going about our day and everything and just all our taxes still going to these people. And it's, it's been driving me a little bit like, it's weird. It's weird to be in this kind of political scape that we're in right now because it's not just, it's, it's a spiritual and moral one as well, what's happening in our country. The destabilization, the demoralization of our country. I mean, if you actually look at the communist destabilization tactics of a country,
Starting point is 00:58:06 that is exactly what we're going through. So it does make me wonder whether the answer is in party politics at all. And I think that maybe all of this inviting is eventually going to lead out and maybe play into the hands of broader parties, which will then play into, you know, perhaps like one party government with no opposition, one world governments and that sort of thing. but I suppose it depends how far down the rabbit hole you go. But it definitely is something that is just getting a bit, it's getting a bit messy now. And I think we really need to just pull ourselves together
Starting point is 00:58:42 and stop all the bickering. Stop focusing on the two things that you don't agree on and start looking at the 8, 12, 10, you know, 15 things that you do agree on. So we can just get our country back to a stable state. and then everyone can start worrying about all the rest of the stuff. Breaking right now, Ian Huntley, the most hated, murderous scumbag in the United Kingdom
Starting point is 00:59:12 after he killed those two little girls in Soam, Jessica and Holly, and we will never forget it. It's fighting for his life in hospital after being attacked on the head with an iron rod at 9 a.m. this morning. Major developments on this, the attacker has now been identified and we have a new statement from the police, so I'll get into all of that very shortly.
Starting point is 00:59:41 But I imagine many millions up and down the country are praying that this fight for life by Ian Huntley maybe isn't successful because he is obviously serving life behind bars for murdering the 10-year-old Hollywells and Jessica Chapman in his home in Soham in Cambridgeshire in 2022. The Daily Mail reports he was transported to hospital after being targeted in a behind-bars ambush on his prison wing this morning, which saw him hit with the metal weapon. Huntley was found in a pool of blood after the incident at HMP Franklin in County Durham at around 9am.
Starting point is 01:00:22 A source said the double killer's condition was touch and go and described the scene on the wing as absolute chaos. The attacker is thought to have gained access to Huntley in a prison workshop. The killer is usually under guard at all times. But a spokesperson for Durham Constabulary said police were alerted to an assault which had taken place within HMPB Franklin this morning. A male prisoner suffered serious injuries during the incident and was transported to hospital. A police investigation is now underway. It is obviously worth a reminder of what Huntley did to Holly and Jessica. He lured those two beautiful young girls into his home and killed them both by strangulation,
Starting point is 01:01:08 most likely smothering or suffocating them. Sexual assault couldn't be ruled out at the time. Huntley then dumped their bodies in a remote ditch only later to pour petrol, over them and set them a light. Here is the chilling video of Huntley speaking to Sky News as Jeremy Thompson after the girls had gone missing. Watch. How do we know they were here in 615? Well we have an eyewitness. Ian Huntley here is a familiar figure. Evening in. You're the school caretaker, girls Jessica and Hollywood know you and they saw you on the front doorstep. What went on? I don't know the girls
Starting point is 01:01:51 I was still on the front doorstep grooming my dog down She'd run away and come back a bit of a mess They just came across And asked how Miss Carr was And she used to teach them at St Andrews I just said she were very good As she hadn't got the job
Starting point is 01:02:03 And they just says please tell her that we're very sorry And off the walks in the direction of the library over there This is just one of those stories That remains itched in the minds Of most Britons and not surprisingly, Huntley's attack was major news today. Watch how it broke.
Starting point is 01:02:31 The Sky News understands that so a murderer, Ian Huntley, has been seriously assaulted in prison. It's understood he was taken to hospital after being found in a pool of blood at H&P Franklin in Durham following an attack by an unknown inmate. Huntley was convicted of the murders of 10-year-olds, Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in Surmond,
Starting point is 01:02:48 in Cambridgeshire, back in 2002. serving a life sentence with a minimum of 40 years. Child murderer Ian Huntley has suffered serious injuries after being attacked in prison. It happened at the High Security Franklin prison in County Durham. 36 minutes passed midday and a prisoner. Reportedly, the Soam killer Ian Huntley has suffered serious injuries
Starting point is 01:03:12 after being attacked in a high security Franklin prison. We do now have an update from the Durham police who say that the attacker has now been identified, and it is clear that Huntley remains fighting for his life tonight. Let me take you through what the police have just released. The 52-year-old prisoner, who was injured during this morning's assault in the workshop at HMP Franklin, remains in a serious condition in hospital following treatment for head injuries. Police forensic teams have examined the scene of the attack throughout the day to gather evidence. A suspect, a male prisoner in his mid-40s,
Starting point is 01:03:56 has been identified by officers investigating the incident. He has not been arrested at this stage, but remains in detention within the prison. To my superstar panel, Emma Dunwell and Lee Harris, Lee, your reaction to this prison attack on Ian Huntley? The man is a monster. I would have personally, if we'd have had the death penalty, pulled the lever myself. So no, I'm not particularly phased in the slightest that this man, this monster of a man has been beaten up in prison.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Well, I think that's probably an understatement by the sounds of it. So, yeah, I don't want to sound too heartless, but I hope it hurt a lot. And I hope he doesn't recover, if I can say that. In Mademwell, I mean, it is quite astonishing. isn't it in some ways that he has survived this length of time in prison? He's obviously had a target on his head. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I mean, this isn't the first time he's been attacked. I believe, I mean, I didn't really know much about the other attacks until this morning. But I believe someone else tried to slit his throat before someone tried to throw boiling water over him. So, I mean, it calls into question, you know, a couple of things. It could either be down to his behaviour inside. I mean, to be completely frank and blunt, he could just piss a lot of people off
Starting point is 01:05:21 and they could just be really angry with him for that reason. Or it could be that despite what criminals are in there, they just view what he did as a completely different low, just the same as how people who were sexually assaulted and abused children. They tend to get very poorly treated, you know, assaulted and, you know, sexually and otherwise in prison by other inmates. It kind of seems to be this unspoken rule of.
Starting point is 01:05:51 You can do that and you can do that, but you don't do that. And I don't know, is it weird to say that it bizarrely restores my faith in humanity that even inmates might look at someone who's done something like that and gone like, yeah, I might have like, you know, robbed a bank or something, but that's evil, you know. It's kind of, yeah, it's weird. It's more like a good psychological talking point than anything. I suppose what I can say is I believe in karma. Yeah, I mean, of course, now that Ian Watkins,
Starting point is 01:06:27 the country's probably worst paedophile former lead singer of the lost prophets was murdered in prison. I guess you could argue that Ian Huntley is now the biggest target, there will be some people, Lee, who say, look, is there a big problem in our prisons? Should inmates be safe? It is a very good point. And yes, I would say there's a flip side of this where you should say, look, they shouldn't be able to be able to do these things in prison full stop.
Starting point is 01:07:04 But the other side of me, Dan, just thinks, look, a lot of prison life, in my view, is far too luxurious and laid back. It doesn't really feel like they're being punished at all. So if something like this, you know, prisoner justice can happen, yes, of course, we're not really supposed to condone this. My instincts are to say, of course, you know, we shouldn't condone what's happened in the prisons, and it is right to say the prisoners shouldn't be able to bludgeon someone
Starting point is 01:07:28 with a metal pole under the supervision of prison staff. I would agree with that sentiment. But it's just because it's this guy, Dan. And I thought the same about the lost profits guy. I couldn't care less. And I genuinely believe that if we had, well, I would argue for the death penalty for people like this, for people who are willingly, willingly take lives where there's absolutely no doubt who's committed the crime, then I would quite happily bring about the death penalty for these types.
Starting point is 01:07:55 We wouldn't even be having this conversation because the state wouldn't have to pay for them. Yeah, I was just thinking about that because one of the reasons I think why people don't really care about the fact that justice might be being. dished out in a violent way behind bars is because the British public have been ignored for so long on the desire for tougher penalties, especially for child killers, especially for child rapists, and we've been ignored. And Emma, it's interesting to me because, again, lots of people say, oh, where is the difference between Restore Britain and Reform UK? And I think we've already seen an immediate difference on this front because Reform UK's new shadow home secretary, or at least that's what he calls himself at Zee Yusuf, gave a press conference last week
Starting point is 01:08:45 and was asked quite clearly, is there anything coming on the whole issue of capital punishment? And he said no. And yet Restore Britain has formally announced as policy that they would hold a referendum on the issue of restoring the death penalty. And Rupert Lowe has said that he would campaign for it. And I think it would win, Emma, actually. Now, there's obviously some caveats. He makes clear it needs to be in cases where there's unquestionable evidence. I mean, no one, I think, would argue that someone like Lucy Lettby should be put to death. I believe Lucy Lettby is innocent, but that's a whole other story. But, you know, there has to be. categorical evidence, but when it comes to someone like Axel Ruder-Cabana or Ian Huntley,
Starting point is 01:09:35 do you actually think this Restore Britain policy is a popular one? I do. I do think it's popular among the public at the moment because like exactly like you said, just from a psychological standpoint, people have been almost thirsty for to see actual human intuition be carried out to serve justice. For so long, we've been kind of like papered in by this policy, that legislation, this rule or this, you know, virtue single law, that's not politically correct. And it stopped us from keeping ourselves safe. It stopped us from imprisoning people who deserve it. And in some, I mean, there've been cases of fathers getting arrested because they've beat up their daughters rapists. It's just like this real backward refusal to acknowledge human instinct.
Starting point is 01:10:27 So I think that it's really interesting from that point because, yeah, people are thirsting for capital punishment for that reason. I personally wouldn't advocate for capital punishment. I think that I would have probably, sorry, advocate for harsher sentencing and much harsher conditions. I don't think that they should be having TVs and PlayStation's and should be able to use taxpayer money to go and buy sweets in the tuck sharpen. and all of these things. If you go to prison, if you, if you are someone, let's say, you know, like a young offender, then I think that obviously rehabilitation needs to be discussed. Because if you just throw it in a hole, then there's zero chance of rehabilitation.
Starting point is 01:11:10 But, yeah, there shouldn't be like hotels at this point. You know, you could go to a basic premier in and have less amenities than you do in a prison cell. So it's just ridiculous. I think that we should instead be advocating for harsh sentencing and harsher conditions for the prisons. be kept in as well. Because as well, what are the other things that people are advocating that we return to in this country, Christianity. And, you know, I mean, obviously depending on your personal belief system, but if you really want to return to that, then that's my reason why I wouldn't advocate for the death penalty. But I understand why people want it.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Is it about time that the British mainstream media stops treating Martin Lewis, the money man on Good Morning Britain, like he. He's some type of God. Because after his ambush of Kemi Badenock earlier in the week, which I thought was completely wrong, but not surprising for a TV show that allows the home, well now the foreign secretary's husband,
Starting point is 01:12:19 to present is anything but biased. The thing is when it comes to Martin Lewis, though, for a long time he's been allowed to get away with whatever he wants. and now his own colleagues at Wokai TV's Good Morning Britain are calling him out. I'll get into that momentarily, but first you saw there that Kemi Badernock has actually used this Martin Lewis ambush as a bit of a publicity stunt. She's thought, I'm going to lean into this. And she invited Martin Lewis into her office, posting return the favour and ambushed Martin Lewis in my office today with a group of graduates suffering under plan two loan repayments. But good on him for coming over to Parliament for round two of our debate on my plan to cut interest rates on student loans.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Martin and I don't agree on everything, but we know that graduates are being shafted by the current system and we both care enough to try and change it. And unlike here, Stama, Martin is willing to listen. Once again, Stama didn't answer any of my questions on student loans earlier today in PMQs. It's because the PM knows that under his government graduates are getting poorer and job opportunities are disappearing. Labor have no plan for young people I do. And to me it's irrelevant that the clash was about student loans. It doesn't matter. What mattered was the way that Martin Lewis, remember I worked at ITV daytime for 10 years. And I was a colleague of Martin Lewis and we've always had a good personal relationship. So this isn't coming from any place of me really disliking him. But there's a real arrogance. I would never in my 10 years at ITV daytime have ever thought that I could just storm onto the set at any point. And absolutely. And absolutely. ambush an interview. And what I found most fascinating is that when Ed Balls piped up, Susanna Reid used her hand to shut him up. It was like, no, Martin Lewis is the king. He's allowed to do
Starting point is 01:14:10 whatever he wants on this set. And I know there has been a lot of discontent behind the scenes at ITV towards Martin Lewis for some time, but it's never been reported because as I say, he almost has this special treatment as some type of godlike figure. Well, not anymore. because the Sun are now reporting on the daytime drama and how Martin Lewis is on-air meltdown backfired because the GMB host is accused of mansplaining and being labelled difficult by ITV crew. Now, of course, the ITV executives are denying all of this
Starting point is 01:14:44 and standing by him, but I remember they did the same thing for many years over Phillips Schofield, who was also really terrible in terms of his treatment of staff on the show. Here's what the son's assistant editor Amanda Devlin reported. She wrote, People's Champion Martin Lewis came under fire for storming the set of Good Morning Britain this week to berate opposition leader Kemi Badenock. However, while viewers were horrified,
Starting point is 01:15:09 ITV daytime employees were far from surprise, telling us the mask has finally slipped. The money-saving experts stunt spectacularly backfired as he was accused of rudely mansplaining and speaking over the surprise politician. Now insiders are making an excellent. explosive claims about Martin being difficult to work for, which is set to shock fans. As we revealed last week, the Breakfast Show has suffered plummeting rating since Piers Morgan Quitter's host five years ago. However, Martin's outburst went viral as he confronted an unsuspecting Ms. Badenock
Starting point is 01:15:40 while she was being interviewed in the studio by Reed and Balls. A visibly frustrated Martin stood over the Tory leader in a fiery clash, but instead of being hailed as a hero for sticking up for lowly students, fans were up in arms, and now some ITV insiders who have worked with Martin have opened up about their own experiences. And this is where it gets interesting. One ITV colleague, which I would suggest means an on-air presenter, which is very intriguing, told the son, Martin's reputation with the public is vastly different to how he is known for behaving by those he works with backstage. He's notorious for being rude and thinking he's always right. He can be a very intimidating figure. He means well, but he's very pedantic about how he wants
Starting point is 01:16:28 things done and that can cause hostility. Even experienced producers across daytime find him difficult to work with. The only surprise about his behaviour with Kimi is that it happened on-screen. It's as if the mask has finally slipped. However, an ITV spokesman said we don't recognise this behaviour. Martin is a valued contributor and presenter as well as being a highly regarded and respected voice for the viewer. I would say, however, the same ITV spokespeople for many years defended Phillips Schofield. And we know now that the way that he was being presented on screen was nothing like how he acted behind the scenes. I was the person who was saying for a long time that that were the case. Of course, I'm not comparing Martin Lewis and Phillips Schofield's activities.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I'm talking more about the fact that viewers don't necessarily know the real person. Another source told the son For years Martin has been praised by the public and become a fan favourite on ITV But he got this one badly wrong In Martin's mind he was seizing the opportunity to get a face-to-face with Ms Badenock And looked like a hero as he stood up for hard done by a student struggling to repay their loans While his point was valid the way in which he delivered it was totally wrong But another pal and colleague of the tallie star did stand up for him and said
Starting point is 01:17:41 Martin as a consummate professional he may come across as a little brusk on occasion but that's because he always strives for perfection. Perhaps his manner can rub people up the wrong way, but he always delivers. The viewers don't agree, though, one said, I don't think it's a great look that Martin is standing up shouting at her while she is sitting down. He really let himself down here. So what do my superstar panel think about this? Let me bring in Lee Harris and Emma Dunwell.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Emma, look, I've got no personal problem with Martin Lewis, but I did find his behaviour very shocking. and certainly I think he believes he owns that building. There's such an arrogance around him. And I think it came out in a very bad way on it. You don't just storm in on someone else's interview. Yeah, no, completely. It seems to be that there are certain people within media.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I mean, you know, to a certain point, it's like, oh, shocker, another argument behind closed doors of a TV show. You know, this is just TV, isn't it? you know, people are not who you think they are. But no, I do think he acted inappropriately. It definitely did not put him in a good light. I don't know who advised him to do that or if he thought of that all on his own, but it was not a good idea,
Starting point is 01:18:56 especially to someone who is so high ranking in politics at the moment in the media all the time, literally the leader of the opposition. And, you know, I mean, but in terms of his independence, yeah, if you, if, you know, a financial expert wants to give advice to a political party because he cares about the country or for whatever reasons he might say or a political party wants to just get financial advice about about someone who is always, you know, taking calls from people on air or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I think that's their prerogative, but then don't just have a massive hissy fit about like, oh no, I'm impartial, I'm impartial. You know, if you want to give people financial advice, fine, great, you do you. But, yeah, storming on and, yeah, what they said, mansplaining to Kemi Payton or leader of the opposition at the moment, like, that's just, that did not make you look good at all. Lee Harris, what did you think about Martin Lewis's behaviour? And actually, what do you make of this briefing from ITV colleagues describing this as a bit of a mask-off moment? The mask slipped on air. And so all of a sudden people are like, oh, this is what he's really like. Yeah, I certainly felt like I had that thought myself before, you know, I thought to myself,
Starting point is 01:20:14 is this the real kind of Martin Lewis? What an awful look. I mean, I remember sitting down and watching that clip for the first time just yesterday. And I recoiled. I was like, this is just like one nasty ambush. I don't know what point he was trying to make. That's what I was thinking initially. I don't know why he would think about making this point like this.
Starting point is 01:20:31 But the point's completely ruined, whatever, you know, the point he was making about student loans didn't matter anymore. more because he'd made this into a right spectacle. Very, very bad judgment. And by the way, I'm not a massive fan of Kimmy Bajnock, but she handled that with pure class. She didn't back down. She kept her talking point solid. And she didn't show that she was intimidated by him at all. And even pushed back at one point by saying, you know, I do want to get my point across
Starting point is 01:20:59 and finish what I'm saying. It does appear that you lot of basically just stood there shouting over me. And I thought, fair play to you for calling them out to their faces. But this whole kind of is Martin Lewis like this. I hate to say it. It just wouldn't surprise me because no one would have done that. And Dan, you probably know that you know this probably better than anyone. No one would have done that unless they genuinely thought they had an incredibly high opinion of themselves.
Starting point is 01:21:22 All the people you see around the back, you know, in the gallery, they're all working hard, all the producers. I mean, you do your best to be really nice to those people at the very least because you can tell they're doing a job. and you do hear of this type of personality. Is it drawn into this industry a little bit, as you can imagine? But certainly with Martin Lewis, I didn't have that opinion of him. So for me, it was like, yeah, could be a mask off moment. I'll listen to both sides. He'll say that he potentially, this was just a bit of a misjudgment.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Maybe it is. But yeah, it's starting to now allow me to form an opinion of him that he clearly loves himself. Yeah, I think you're completely right. I've thought about it a lot and there is no situation genuinely no situation in my career including when I was on GB News where I would have barged into the studio without having agreed it with the fellow presenters of the show beforehand, the floor manager. I mean, I just would never have done it. Susan looked shocked.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Yeah. Susan looked shocked that it had happened. Like it didn't look like it was planned. No, I don't believe it was planned. plan because they weren't set up to have him. And Susanna clearly knew that the optics of him sort of towering over Kemi and shouting at her were really bad. So she almost like moved.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Because see, he's perching on the sofa. They were not set up for it. But I did also find it really intriguing that when Ed Balls tried to step in, Susanna basically shut him up because she is the boss of that show. Do you know what I mean? What she says goes. But I do wonder if she, would have been particularly happy about that. But look, very, very...
Starting point is 01:23:04 It's the wrong person as well, just to say quickly. He was getting irate with Kemi. She's not even in government. He should be saving that for Rachel Reeves. Yeah, exactly. But he doesn't challenge the Labour politicians in that way. And they do treat him like a god, too, which I find very weird. But look, stand by you two, because we're about to reveal our union jackass in just one moment. But first, I want to get to outspoken feedback, which has been pouring in from you. Specifically on this Islamist takeover in terms of what's been going on in Gorton and Denton Earl Dumarest said Tommy warned us years ago. This would happen. He did. He absolutely did. Roger Hudson says, I hope the Green Labor split on the left is bigger than the Reform Advance
Starting point is 01:23:49 UK split on the right. Both Corby and Galloway are promoting green. Todd Morlank says Goodwin was always an outsider. Only Liverpool is statistically more left wing than Manchester. He's well to be in with a chance. And Steve Shaw said Farage has been going wishy-washy lately. He's hardly stepping it up at this by-election. Okay, let me remind you of the nominees for today's worst Britain in the world today. Our union Jackass Lee Harris went for John Healy for misleading parliament about an imminent threat to Diego Garcia, which was a lie. I nominated Prince Harry for his embarrassing fake royal tour and having links to Hamas in the Middle East and Emma Dunwell nominated Jack Cooper, the Home Office statistician, who of course was trumpeting that, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:35 the hotel places for illegals were down without actually mentioning the fact that they're going into lots of other places, including army barracks and HMOs. Okay, the results are in. In third place, with 18% of the vote is Jack Cooper, Emma's choice, the runner-up with 22% of the vote, Jack Healy's choice. I promise you guys, this isn't a fix. I don't usually win. I don't usually win. But today I have Prince Harry come and you've got to agree with that, Lee and Emma, right? He's totally deserving of being today's worst Britain in the world.
Starting point is 01:25:09 But Emma Dunwell, you have chosen today's greatest Britain. It's Pete Wilshaw. Explain this story for us. So this is Pete Wilshaw. He was a paratrooper. He served 16 years, or it might be 17 and I'll have to double check. But he served in our British Army. He is a veteran.
Starting point is 01:25:29 And right now he is homeless. He has been completely left behind and betrayed by the system. A point where he was kicked out of his shared accommodation. It's important to note that he fought in Afghanistan and has a lot of PTSD from that. And he woke up and his place wasn't secured and he woke up to three women in full burghers and three Afghani men. and obviously a fight broke out and he was kicked out without any regard to his PTSD. He's now homeless before we went down and saw him and shout out to ShieldCP UK,
Starting point is 01:26:08 headed by Leon Pestana and James Lavell. And they allowed me to go down and interview him so that he could tell his story. So make sure to go over, you can find it on my YouTube or on my ex. It's the pinned post. Please listen to his story and share it out and go and give ShieldCP a follow. They are doing the real. Real God's work as far as I'm doing. Emma, you are doing God's work.
Starting point is 01:26:31 You do the most amazing work as E speaks freely. So do make sure you subscribe because Emma is doing incredible independent journalism, as is Lee Harris, who you can find at Lee Harris on X now. But I'll always know him as addicted to news, because he is addicted to news, as am I. Thank you so much to my superstar panel today. We're not finished today, though, because we are, moving over to Substack now with Angela Levin and Lady Victoria Harvey. Big, big, big, royal developments to join us there at www.
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