Dan Wootton Outspoken - ISLAMIST TERROR THREAT TO UK SCHOOLS IGNORED BY MSM AS BOMB LETTER SIGNED OFF WITH ALLAHU AKBAR

Episode Date: October 20, 2026

BREAKING TODAY: The Islamist threat to the United Kingdom grows, with schools shut after an Islamist bomb threat is signed off Allah Akbar and then ignored by the mainstream media. Meanwhile, a pol...ice officer is shot in Nottingham as Lawless Britain spirals out of control and an illegal army is being housed at the Delta Hotel in Warwick, but only independent journalists want to report on the horrifying reality. ALSO BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Tommy Robinson in court for day two of his deep state trial against the Daily Mail as he faces TEN YEARS behind bars. We’ll show you the video seen by the jury. With us throughout the show and historian and fellow at the New Culture Forum Rafe Haydel-Mankoo. PLUS: Prince Harry gives a bombshell tell-all interview to GQ Magazine blaming Prince William for their estrangement, as his psychodrama overshadows the work of the Royal Family as the host the State Visit of the Sultan of Oman. AND: A famous LBC fake call haunts Reform UK’s Laila Cunningham, just like it did Nigel Farage. We’ll show you the mad on air moment. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: We’ll analyse Prince Harry’s tell-all interview with royal YouTube sensation P-Dina. LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:47 And then ignored by the mainstream media. 160 schools received email communication that there was an explosive device within their school grounds. This purporting to come from Alu Akbar is how the email was signed off. It talked about wanting to introduce Sharia law and that this was something that our country would surrender to. Meanwhile, a police officer shot in Nottian as lawless Britain spiles out of control an illegal army being housed at the Delta Hotel in Warrick. Only independent journalists want to report on the horrifying reality.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Where were you from, sorry? I'm from. Where you from? South Sudan. So in the army there, how long did you have to do? Did you have to do like three years or something like that or? This is that our hotel all day. All they do fighting these people, he's hick with people crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, man, man do you come back only 24 hours. Don't worry, tomorrow you come back. Also breaking right now, Tommy Robinson has just left court after day two of his deep state trial against the Daily Mail as he faces 10 years behind bars. And their argument is because he's posed things, essentially arguing against his family being doxed, and in response, people, anonymous accounts were threatening these two daily mail journalists, that constitutes harassment and stalking. We'll see you in that. Tommy, make sure you have that space for me for two years. We will play you the video showing to the jury today. And breaking right now as well, Prince Harry has just given a bombshell tell-all interview to GQ magazine on camera,
Starting point is 00:03:08 blaming Prince William for their estrangement as his psychodrama overshadows the work of the British royal family, which you will see today, is front and center hosting the state visit of the Sultan of Oman. Forgive me because I don't know the details here. With us. Forgive me because I don't know the details here. Details of what? Here comes a question.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You have talked about at times having a complicated relationship with your brother, your father. Is that something that you agree? Yeah. Yes, of course. People maybe look at us and go, how are you going to work it out? And then maybe how I see you're going to work it out, maybe that will help me work my stuff out. And some people don't want it. How are you going to work it out? Well, some people don't want it to work out. I want it to work out.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You do? Of course I do. There's no, again, with everything else that's going on in the world, the most important thing is to, you know, is to reconcile. He's here for the entire show, the historian fellow at the New Culture Forum, Rafe Hedle, Mancoo. Also coming up today, a famous LBC fake call, Horns, Reform UK's Leila Cunningham, just like it did Nigel Farage. We will show you that mad on air moment. We'll also have P. Diner on deck for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow over on Substack. Rafe and I are also nominating for today's greatest Britain and Union Jackass. He has gone for Abdul Qadar Ismaili, the man behind the Palestine poppy,
Starting point is 00:04:38 Muhammad Yassin, the ISIS terrorist jihadi living in Windsor. I'm going to tell you about him in the Digest. I've gone for Harry, okay, because that interview is designed to overshadow today's state visit. What a scumbag. Do keep your votes coming in on the live chat. Keep your super chats throughout the show too. I'll read out the best at the end of the show today. But now, let's go.
Starting point is 00:05:06 After one near stabbing by an Islamist terrorist was already covered up at a school by the MSM and establishment, the Muslim terror threats to our educational institutions are now a horrifying reality, with British-based jihadists planning Axel Ruder-Gabana copycat attacks and foreign threats coming too. And with evidence of a widespread Islamist bomb threat confirmed yesterday, the silence around this story is horrifying to me. That's despite Northern Ireland schools being evacuated. That's despite the police admitting threatening messages being sent to a number of schools across Scotland.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Indeed, the Stormont Education Minister admitted the Northern Irish schools had received a threat from Islamists threatening that Sharia law will be brought into our country and that there is a viable device within these school settings. Watch. My understanding this morning, 160 schools received email communication that there was an explosive device within their school grounds.
Starting point is 00:06:16 This purporting to come from Alu Akbar is how the email was signed off. It talked about wanting to introduce Sharia law and that this was something that our country would surrender to. So an appalling communication, schools obviously escalated this within their own processes. A number of them took the decision to close, the Education Authority have had urgent engagement with the PSNI.
Starting point is 00:06:43 It has been escalated to their assistant chief constable Henderson, who has been dealing with this. And the advice to those schools has been to keep in close contact with their local policing districts. And unless they are able to identify a specific object, then they're continuing to retain the opening of those school settings. But this is being worked through a process now. it would appear that this isn't a viable threat, but nevertheless it is being dealt with seriously by the PSNI, and they'll have more to say in due course. Hugely distressing any parent that receives communication
Starting point is 00:07:19 indicating the school has had to escalate their evacuation procedures is going to cause alarm, and people don't know what the reasons for that has been. I've outlined that it has came about through this email communication, purporting to want to have Sharia law brought out. to our country and that it was signed off by claiming Allah Akbar. And that is going to cause huge distress. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So what happened? The mainstream media covered it up. Nothing in the main bulletins on the British Passion Corporation on sly news, on woke I TV news. It was just like this was a non-starter, a non-story, because you know it wasn't a so-called far-right terror threat. I am going to read the letter to you. It said death is near. This is an urgent notification that an explosive vice containing ammonium nitrate is currently located inside the building.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Today, with Allah's permission, we will carry out a series of planned terrorist attacks across the country. What you experience today is only the beginning. One day, your government will surrender its authority and Sharia law will be established, Alu Akbar. So who was that from? Who was that from? Is the plot real? And why the hell are these questions not being asked at the highest levels, including to the education sector, including to the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood? The problem is the MSM and political
Starting point is 00:08:47 establishment now work together. You know this to cover up so much because they don't want us to understand that the Islamist takeover and ongoing invasion of our country by our mortal enemies is changing everything. The problem they have is that not only do we see it with our own eyes every day, We have brilliant independent citizen journalists like Templar Reports and Truth Hertz 101 doing the job the legacy media used to, including exposing the horror of an illegal army, now being held at the Delta Hotel in Warwick, with the Nationalist G.B reporting military-trained men are being housed there by the home office. Alarm bells should be ringing, and they are ringing in my head, at least, watch.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So what army are you from? What regiment? What battalion? Are you from, where you from, bro? Yeah, go on, football, mate, go on. I'm chatting to him. I'm not doing anything bad. I'm not doing anything bad, honestly. I'm just asking, so you've been here,
Starting point is 00:09:49 they're okay here, they look after you? Do you know what, um, do what training have you had, like military? Have you done any military training? Are you in the army? Yeah, bro, how's it going? Are you all good? Are they looking after you here?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Tell them not in there, they need to clear this up. You know, the owners, this is messy, isn't it? They need to clean it up, didn't they? Any of you in the army? Was any of you in the army? Like, you know, military? Any of you in military? Yeah, yeah, yeah, military.
Starting point is 00:10:21 What did you serve? I serve military. British forces used to be. Where did you used to serve? Where are you from, sorry? Where are you from? Sorry? Sudan?
Starting point is 00:10:37 Saddam? So in the army there, how long did you have to do? Did you have to do like three years or something like that? He's in the army. Was he? Yeah, Sudan. Yeah, he's a good lad. He's a good lad.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah, yeah. Literally forced to stick together, don't we, bro? Is he closed there? Oh, shit. I just spoke to someone. How he's from? Where? Turkey.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Turkey. And the authorities know something is going on there. Look, the police soon called because of fights outside. This is Dada hotel all day. All they did fighting his people. It's making people crazy. Allah, he is hard. But it gets much worse, with Truth Hertz also reporting
Starting point is 00:11:57 that a Kurdish migrant tells me that teenage girls, native teenage girls, have been brought to the hotel on more than three occasions. He writes, there are also reports of Taliban members inside and daily long-distance taxi journeys dispersing them to HMO's serious questions need answering watch. You just look in that baby, he's 18, his black man is he's here. He's 18. Now, as you can see, this fella seems genuinely worried about these young girls.
Starting point is 00:12:36 He since sent me the footage he was trying to show me and claims that young teenage girls have been brought to this hotel on more than three separate. occasions. Now that raises some serious questions. And what exactly do the security know about it? Are they aware of what's going on or are they turning a blind eye? Well, indeed, the Somali migrant who was featured there did end up being arrested. Look at this animal. Don't worry, tomorrow you come back. But there is no happy ending here because Truth Hertz 101 then reported that a Kurdish migrant has now been arrested for speaking out. Truth Hertz said he told me there were terrorists inside the hotel
Starting point is 00:13:46 and people were being held down and forcibly injected with medication that was making them crazy. As police take him away, he says Al-Shababab, ISIS inside. Watch. No, I not make it you out, but you just see. No, no, no, give a bit of safety. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:39 This record is nice, Steve, some for the little bit. See what the rest is for. So what the hell is going on? At the Delta Hotel in Warwick, please reach out to me. Be in touch. We are going to keep on this story. Thank you to Templar Reports and Truth Harts 101
Starting point is 00:14:56 for putting themselves on the line to try and expose the horror. And the horror is all around us. horror is all around us, isn't it? And the changes to our day-to-day life, including this depressing acceptance that these migrants will rob from us. With the Patriots voice, revealing just landed in the UK, not even 48 hours in the country, walks into Tesco, helps himself to whatever he fancies, and stroll straight out the door like the rules don't apply. The worst thing is, he filmed and posted it. As the Patriot Hsu'll do you, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to get it, I'm going to get it. I'm going to, I'm. Oh, gosh, allah. I'm going to do. What's the Patriots voice? I'm not.
Starting point is 00:15:51 As the Patriots voice continued, meanwhile, the rest of us clock on, queue up, and pay full price for our lunch, hotels, gym membership, drive. lessons and everything else on the taxpayers tab still aren't enough. Zero fair of consequences by not sending their best. Enough is enough. And I mean, there is certainly not. There is even now an ISIS terrorist living in Windsor. With spiked online reporting in the not so distant past, Mohammed Yassin's name would have been on the front page of every newspaper in Britain. It would have
Starting point is 00:16:25 dominated radio and TV bulletins. The government of the day would be reeling as it tried to explain how a convicted terrorist had been allowed to enter the UK illegally and leach off the state, even as he mocked our country by making an asylum claim on human rights grounds. Jobs would be lost, careers would be in disarray over a scandal betraying such carelessness and incompetence, but not in Britain. In 2026, we have become numb to the unceasing horrors of our borderless society. You see, currently living in a bail hostel in Windsor, it's important to keep the following in mind. He is an Iraqi citizen and a former member of both al-Qaeda and ISIS. He belonged to the same cell that in 2004 kidnapped and beheaded British engineer Ken Bigley. He has been described in
Starting point is 00:17:14 court as a bystander to public executions, stonings and floggings. He served as a security guard for at least two mass executions and was involved in attacks that killed American troops in Iraq. He arrived in Germany in 2014, where in 2020 he was sentenced to four years and three months in prison for participating in a terror organisation and belonging to ISIS. He is in Windsor today. No wonder our crime wave is getting worse with a shooting of a police officer in Nottingham, again, not even considered major news. This is the horrific moment a police officer is blasted in the foot. with a sawn-off shotgun in Nottingham City Centre. Shocking footage shows terrified rebels fleeing for cover
Starting point is 00:18:12 as panic erupts in the early hours of the morning. The officer was treated on the pavement outside of McDonald's before being taken to hospital. He's now recovering and remains in a stable condition. Four people have since been arrested, including a 27-year-old woman on suspicion of grievous bodily harm and possession of a firearm. Police say the brave officer had approached two of the alleged assailants
Starting point is 00:18:34 near the city council building, where a Christmas market and an ice rink are currently being assembled. Authorities are continuing their investigation into the shooting, but in the meantime, the incident has left the city in shot. And there are now widespread fears that the 2026 riots of France burning that once great country to the ground will reach the UK, especially when you look at this. The demographic changes in the country. specifically the percentage of the white population in Paris, which I think will soon be fully implemented here in London. Donald Trump overnight was prepared to say the unsayable, as he often is. France is burning because of mass immigration.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Well, the France thing is a very sad situation. What's happening in France, because what's happening in France has to do with immigration, not school, not anything. It's immigration. And I told President Macron, close up your borders. I told them the first time I met him, which was years ago in my first term, close up your borders. You're going to have nothing but trouble. And they've got a lot of trouble. They let people into their country that don't love their country. They don't love their buildings. They don't love their art. And I said, the first time I met Macron, I said, you've got to close up your borders. You're going to ruin your country, and they've ruined their country.
Starting point is 00:20:12 It's going to be hard to get it back, but hopefully France will come back. But according to James O'Brien on LVC, that's racist. Of course, racist will pretend that it's all about immigration, and Emmanuel Macron will claim that it's all about the far left. The far left will probably claim that it's all the police's fault for being violent. And for my money, anybody wearing a mind. surrenders some of the natural defenses or presumptions of innocence. I think Donald Trump's already trying to blame it on immigration.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Like I said, that's what racists will always do. Could you imagine students in this country? Marching, not rioting. The rioting is the extremity of this phenomenon. But could you imagine? It's what Macron was trying somewhat in vain to appeal to at the weekend when he talked about shame and disgust and ordinary people. He talked about French people doing this to France.
Starting point is 00:21:11 That's why I find it frightening. When Macron talks about the French attacking France, he's sort of describing an act of self-sabotage. You are attacking yourself when you do this. It might not feel it like it as you hot foot at home with a stolen laptop in your backpack. But you are attacking the money that will be needed to pay to repair the damage that's been done
Starting point is 00:21:31 will come from you or your parents' taxes. You are attacking yourself when you riot like this. But Reform UK believe what's happening in France is a winning political issue, releasing this new ad. The White House also posted, if you import the third world, you become the third world. And on seeing some of the horror scenes, the black conservative influencer based and bougie responded this way. Black people behave like this in countries that is not indigenously theirs. Then get upset and cry racism when people wanted them deported back to their indigenous land. This is what she is referring to.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yet in this country, we have fake conservatives, like the Daily Telegraphs Tim Stanley, a former Labour candidate, by the way, literally going on the British Passion Corporation's news night to suggest that London is, quote, peaceful and lovely and multicultural while launching another tirade against Restore Britain. Where Rishi became Prime Minister,
Starting point is 00:23:24 no one even spoke about it, really. I'm an MP, no one really talks. talks about it in my community, is a great thing we've done. Why? Because our history is one of shared ethnicities achieving something great. And namely in the Second World War, people of different colours from across the empire at that time coming together to defeat fascism. Our values then, our culture now, our communities that come together. I don't believe Britain's going to seem that same kind of rioting in terms of what's happened in France. I'm not quite sure exactly where it came from. I have heard a lot about the cost of living. We see some of that anger here,
Starting point is 00:23:54 of course, but it can never, ever come to violence. I broadly, I agree with that. That's true of most people. But you have to understand that politics in this country is fracturing and it's becoming extreme. On the right we're having, I'm not, but people have been having a debate about whether or not Kemi Badenok is a Nigerian anchor baby. There are people actually talking about it in terms like that. And an activist for the Restore Party, because I've been very much on the side of racial inclusivity
Starting point is 00:24:19 and multiracialism, an activist for the Restore Party said that I was a traitor to my country and that if he gets into power, I should receive capital punishment. We are actually reaching a point in our country. I know this is going to be on a pledge card somewhere. Some people will vote for it, where people are talking about killing their political opponents. So we can all sit here in lovely, comfortable, peaceful, multicultural London, and it might seem like everything's a bed of roses, but I'm warning you out there, things are fracturing and they're turning nasty. Mr. Stanley, what world are you in? Seriously, walk around London. There is nothing peace for. There is nothing lovely. There is nothing multicultural about this city.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And actually it's spreading throughout the disunited kingdom anyway, as this exchange between Montgomery Tom's of Freedom Watch GB and a Pakistani immigrant really proves. What is so good about Pakistan's culture? Okay, number one, that's so good about Pakistan. We feed people for free. All right? I'm going to stop talking now because you haven't got an answer. You just go around and surf.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You told me you feed people. That's not very impressive. We feed people too. If somebody's fragile, he says that impressive, and that impressive. So the reason Pakistan's so good is because they feed people. Oh my God, this is that your flex? You just come back there to earth. How do you feel about the culture of Pakistani rick gangs? What is your opinion of the English in this country?
Starting point is 00:25:37 Why does that dignify Pakistani gangs? I'm not going to be dignifying anybody. I'm asking you, what is your opinion of the English in this country? It's wrong and they should be either in prison depending on their sentence be put to death. My opinion is they should be hanged whether the Pakistani, Indian, Bengali, in English like why you're gonna be hanging a lot of Pakistanis then how did you work that out how did you work that out because Pakistani gangs are running rife across Manchester at Rotherham and what about the English gangs in you know I should deal with them and and
Starting point is 00:26:06 over not that could be my ass there's more English do you know why there's more English people do you understand statistics they disproportionately more what he told you hang them yeah okay why do I want to pay for the rope mate you can have them I'll pay for the roll you dick, hang them all. Take back. What's the s' wrong with you? They deal with it in your own country because they're coming in there. They never fucking good in my country, don't know. Where did they learn the culture for? Hang them. Hang them in your own country. Stop letting them come here bro.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Oh yes, so peaceful, so lovely, so multicultural. Now, Rafe Hadle Manku. Raif, we need to start with this breaking news about the Islamist bomb threat to British schools. Okay, utterly chilling, starts with the phrase death is near, ends by saying Sharia law will one day be established, Alu Akbar, and it has been confirmed by both the Northern Irish government and the Scottish police, yet, Rafe, the mainstream media have just pretended as if this is a non-story, we need to find out, Rafe, where did this threat come from? If it was a foreign entity, then that is incredibly important. But we also have to rule out that this was not homegrown in any way, especially given we have
Starting point is 00:27:43 seen previous Islamist threats to schools, not to mention the horror of the Southport massacre undertaken by Axel Ruda-Kabana, who, again, the mainstream media. will not describe it as an Islamist, but I will, given he had an ISIS terror manual and was producing Rysohn and his goddamn bedroom. Oh, sorry, Rae. Can you just start again? Thank you. Yes. Well, of course, no surprise that the mainstream media don't want to focus on this. It's no different, of course, we've just had an Australian MP mowed down in a car by a far-left environmentalist activist. Nowhere have I heard on the BBC. Any mention that the person who drove over this woman was a far left activist either. In a way, in this country, it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:28:30 whether this email which went out, which we now believe or assume is a hoax, whether it came from at home or abroad, because we know that there are thousands of people in this country who actually are capable of sending an email like that. That's why even if this is a hoax, it shouldn't be something which we can then dismiss and not worry about, because the attitudes present in that are very much alive and well in this country. We know from polling that one third of Muslims in this country dream of Britain becoming a Sharia state, just as we saw in that email sent to these schools. We know that one third of Muslims in this country don't believe that music should be taught in schools, for example. We know that a majority of Muslims in this country believe that
Starting point is 00:29:19 free speech should be suppressed in order to stop causing offence to religions. That That's within schools. At what point are we going to see such a large critical mass of Muslims in certain parts of the country that there'll be calls to close down Catholic schools or Church of England schools or make the girls dressed modestly? Or if not, indeed, have more of these sort of terror threats made against what they perceive as alien religions in their new Islamic settlements up and down this country. We know, of course, there are 40,000 Muslims on the MI5 Terror Watch List. That's one in 100 Muslims. But even more, if that's not bad enough, at least 9 to 10% of Muslims have admitted to being jihadis, extremists, and supporters of terrorism. Now, that's currently around 400,000 people at the minimum. But with the population going to double or treble by 2050, that means by 2050, there could be 1.5,000.
Starting point is 00:30:20 million jihadis and perhaps 120,000 people on MI5's terror watch list. This is a warning call. What we saw in France is a warning call. The question is, when are our elites and our leaders going to wake up? Totally. And I am very glad that you have mentioned this case of the Australian MP, Helen Haynes, Rafe, because she is considered to be, she's an independent MP, but she is considered to be broadly on the left of Australian politics. And what is so horrifying, Rafe, is that I even saw Sly News doing it in this country. They were just assuming that the attack on her would have been conducted by this invisible far-right terrorist, who they always talk about Rafe, but never actually seems to commit a crime, okay, that this invisible far-right
Starting point is 00:31:12 terrorist. And as you quite rightly point out, Rafe, no, no, no, it was a hard-left environmentalist. this guy here who has been charged, Brendan Nusient. He also combines the anti-Israel side of life to, Rafe, and all of a sudden, guess what? Radio silence about the threat, Rae. Even though Helen Hames remains fighting for her life in hospital, she has life-changing injuries, Rae, her leg has been amputated. I mean, this is a horror, horror case with a lot of echoes, by the way, and we can't talk about it sadly because of contempt of court, but a lot of echoes of Joshua Kerry, who has been charged with the murder of Anne Whittaker and also acts of terror, preparation of acts of terror against Nigel Farage. And guess what, Rafe, because the guy is a hard leftist, we are not
Starting point is 00:32:06 going to hear another word about this. If this had been someone who identified as being on the right, it would be international news. So the cover-up is on. Of course. And all the phrasing around terror in this country from the prevent program and everywhere else it's about Islamic terrorism and far-right terrorism. Never do you hear about far-left terrorism. And this is not just something you can lay at the foot of British politics and media. I'm sure in Australia, the media, apart from Sky News Australia, probably, are not talking about this in far-left extremist terms. But if you look at the catalogue of recent terror attacks that we've had here, of course,
Starting point is 00:32:45 Anne Widdickham, Nigel Farage, but also think about all. the multiple attempts upon Donald Trump. Think about Charlie Kirk. At what point are we going to actually acknowledge that the real threat to this country and to Western civilization is that red-green alliance. It's the far-left extremist and this radical Islam. This mythical far-right extremism simply isn't there on the grounds.
Starting point is 00:33:07 In fact, they have to fabricate it. You will remember just after Anne Whedekin was assassinated, they were so quick to try to find another story that they made up this whole story about a huge threat on some Islam. Islamic gathering in the countryside where people were arrested. There was no story there at all, but that conveniently diverted people away. And slippery. Stama posted about it, Shabana MacMood, post about it, and then no one was
Starting point is 00:33:30 charged and everyone was released, and the whole thing was convicted. No, you were so right to raise that rife. And then we see the scenes at the Delta Hotel in Warwick. And of course, further investigation is required, but absolute credit to Templar Reports and Truth Hurts UK one-on-one who are getting in there. I mean, Rafe, what are we doing to ourselves? I mean, these are men who openly boast about being members of the army of foreign countries like Sudan. We have the Kurdish migrant claiming that there are full on terror cells operating within this property.
Starting point is 00:34:07 The police are turning up on the regular, but we would know nothing about it, Rafe, if it were not for these two brave independent citizen journalists. So I ask the question, how much is this happening? We hear that the hotel has been shut down. And I know Labour boasts about that, but indeed all that is happening is that these armies are being transferred into HMOs, which in some ways makes them much harder to track down. But the idea that young Western women are being taken into this hotel,
Starting point is 00:34:36 I mean, the whole thing is just horrifying. Well, I mean, the mind boggles about these girls. I mean, who is sending them? how are they being contacted? Are they being paid? Are they going there voluntarily? I mean, there are so many questions there and who in their right mind
Starting point is 00:34:52 would want to go anywhere near one of those hotels? I mean, this is the sort of story which, you know, 30 years ago, BBC Panorama would be doing an underground investigation on. Now we have to rely on citizen journalists and how many other places like this are there? It's about time we acknowledge that the home office now you have to say
Starting point is 00:35:11 is complicit in the destruction of our country. They are a fifth column. You know, we accept in this country 62% of people who come over the channel. 62%. In Spain, it's 12%. Why is Spain only having 12% we're having 62% in? It's something thoroughly rotten here in our system. These people are not asylum seekers.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I wouldn't even say they're economic migrants. These are criminals. We now have a standing army of young fit, idle men ready to be mobilized at the drop of a hat. And we should all be terrified by this. And when you see the scenes in France, you just realize all it takes is a little spark to set things off down the road we don't want to go down. We've already seen it in 2011. We had riots back in 2011 across this country. Things are far worse now than they were 15 years ago. Yeah. And the invaders are mobilizing. I do also want to mention today we're going to be speaking about it throughout the show.
Starting point is 00:36:10 but I've seen a lot of you talking about it in the live chat too. I've been in touch with Chauvin White today. Very, very difficult anniversary for this great woman. One of our favorites on outspoken two years ago today, that lovely lady, her daughter, Riannon White, killed. Stad 21 times through the head with a screwdriver by an illegal migrant who was working at the, who was residing at the same migrant hotel where Rianan was working. And of course, we remember Rihanna, and this is why we absolutely need to keep calling out these stories.
Starting point is 00:36:48 The Deep State Court case against Tommy Robinson entered a second day with dramatic new evidence, but Tommy deciding not to speak to any reporters on arrival at court. for two years. How we're doing, all right? Guys, how we all doing? We arrived with a very short time this morning. Right, so basically we've arrived a little bit late coming into central London today. There's been a bit of traffic.
Starting point is 00:37:26 As you know, there are some reporting restrictions on this trial. Tommy is not allowed to be talking about anything that should be happening. Now, obviously, the mainstream media have been in this trial yesterday in their dozens, and it seems like today they're going to be selling it out as well. They have the right to be there and report whatever nonsense. that they want to, but we're restricted to what we can actually talk about. Tommy has asked me today to just talk on his behalf because he doesn't want to do anything that can impede negatively on the trial.
Starting point is 00:37:55 So yeah, so that's basically what we've got to say for now. I need to get back in there, but I will come out and update you. Young Bob, who attended with Tommy, believes a win will be seen as a victory for the independent media too. So we've just finished the court case. Now, Tommy, my question is, how can you stand there for hours at a time, reading an anonymous, Twitter accounts being used against you? It's insane, right?
Starting point is 00:38:18 So for a quick context, we were in the courtroom and their argument is because he's posed things essentially arguing against his family being doxed and in response, people, anonymous accounts were threatening these two daily mail journalists that constitutes harassment and stalking. Now, luckily, our jurors are pretty sound. We'll be here tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And I think this case is going to be shut out because this is a victory for independent media. So as Lauren the insider reported, Tommy Robinson faces two counts of harassment causing fear of violence, one for each of the male online reporters Andrew Young and Jacob Dim Huber. The alleged conduct took place through his ex-account between the 5th and 7th of August 2024. Now Jonathan Wong, the brilliant independent journalist, was in court for Vox Populi, revealing the prosecution ended today's hearing, showing this video of Tommy Robinson, and they thought this made him the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:39:12 In this video, Tommy clearly explained his position. Let me just do a quick video addressed in, The Journalist, The Daily Mound, as I eat my lamb, beautiful. The Daily Mail, who sent journalists to Hotel where I was with my children, photographed my family and gave away their location. See, yesterday, three of their addresses, I've got pictures of all of them, okay? And I've contacted them. You need to contact me, Edna, because if not, I am going to come here. I don't want to. I've made this clear. That's right. I don't think it's morally right and what you've done is totally wrong. You have destroyed a family holiday when I was with my children.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Let's get the record straight. I didn't flee the country because of riots. I've left the country before any riots. I held 100,000 people strong peaceful protests. Riot's kicked off in Liverpool that were nothing to do with me. every one of my videos that I've done so far have clearly called for peace and calm. You're just lying. You're trying to throw it on my lap, so are the government. So this was shown to the court, including Tommy Robinson, asking if what is good for the goose is good for the gander? What's good for the goose is good for the gander? Is it fair that I do that to you?
Starting point is 00:40:22 See, I'm not a morally bankrupt wanker. You know I've got images of everyone in your family. You know I know the locations of where you are. I'm asking, is it fair for me to do that? If the answer's no, then stick to a rule book, lads, yeah? You know when I've done my investigation into a five-part series of Muslim rapists, and I had three girls saying they're rapists,
Starting point is 00:40:41 and I went to find those men. Do you know how many times we had surveillance on them there with their kids or their missus or their mum? And we didn't approach them. And do how much that costs when you've got a surveillance team, security team? Do you know, we put that left it? No, he's with the family, no kids are there, nope, unfortunately, yeah?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Because it's nothing to do with those innocent members of the family. Certainly not to be recorded. or to leave everlasting damage in their minds when you're confronting people to ask them questions. Now, you haven't thought about that with my kids, yeah, who have been upset for days now, who you've ruined their whole event. Again, I'll ask you, is it fair? And in this video, which was shown in court, Tommy had claimed that it was the Daily Mail journalist who set the rules.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So any other note journalists who are thinking about trying to confront me, if you do it in front of my kids, I'm coming for you, yeah? And you've set the moral compass and the guidelines there. You've said, do your job, lads. Go and do your job. Don't photograph my children. And don't give the location of where they are and endanger it. Because if you do, then you've set the rules of what's fair game.
Starting point is 00:41:48 You have, yeah? And it's wrong. It's totally fucking wrong. Now, John Hannam, having seen that video being shown in court, said this is at the heart of the current Tommy Robinson trial. Honest question, leave aside your thoughts on him as a person or his politics. Does he say anything about journalists or journalism here that you would consider wrong? He also talks about man's rules whereby you do not do things in front of someone else's kids or family.
Starting point is 00:42:19 In my world, that is 100% true and he's right. What about in your world? Jonathan Wong also revealed that we, as in the court, the jury, was also, shown supporting ex-posts by folk including the Real Voice of Wales, Don Keith, and the suffragette, Peter Lloyd at the day ended with that video from Tommy. Lauren, the insider, showed that there was a real divide between the independent journalists and the mainstream journalists covering the trial. So here we have all of the mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I am going to go over and ask them if they're reporting today on Tommy Robinson, let's go. This is not going to go down very well. The mainstream media are no fans of citizen journalists. So come with me. I'm from Dan Witton outspoken. I know Dan. A friend of my own. Oh good. Where are you reporting for? I'm not getting interviewed today, thank you. Okay. Where are you reporting for? I'm a photographer. Yeah, but your pictures will become part of a report. Who are they for? for agencies and they go anywhere. Okay, cool. So you put them on the wire. Hi, yeah, where are you reporting for? I'm freelance. Free lance. Okay, we'll go over here. Hi there, you're here to report on the
Starting point is 00:43:41 Tommy Robinson trial today. Where are you from? Uh, why? Sorry? Because I'm doing a news report on who's covering it. I don't like the top. Okay. So there's a big difference already that you can see on the ground regarding Tommy Robinson's case at Southwark Crown Court. Over there, you have the citizen journalists and you can see people are still on the ground. The big difference you will see is all of the mainstream media, bar a few, are not behind the barriers now. So the minute they got the picture and they got the footage they left. The problem is the story is far from over.
Starting point is 00:44:21 That's why we will remain on the ground today. Tommy is inside for the first part of this hearing. It's expected to go on for five days. it does raise questions. When the media are not on the ground, how are you the public getting the facts? And the lifters were absolutely appalling about Tommy Robinson
Starting point is 00:44:43 after he spoke to us yesterday. Fed up with this shit. I'm fed up with it. I don't understand how they can keep doing it, how they can continually, they are weaponising these buildings. The truth is that the Daily Mail are a weapon of the state
Starting point is 00:44:56 and they were sent to frame me. How can I face the 10-year prison sentence for asking questions of mainstream media journalists. And in court today, a daily mail editor said that he was too scared to return to his house after the alleged harassment by Tommy Robinson. The Daily Telegraph reported a reporter also felt his family was under threat as a result of his treatment by the far-right activist. Jacob Durham Huber and Andrew Young's witness statements were read out
Starting point is 00:45:27 with both detailing how they feared violence. after working on a story about Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lingenen in August 2024. Mr. Dermhuber, an editor at The Daily Mail and Mail Online, said he feared being intercepted by a supporter of Robinson on his way to work, who may have been hoping to cause me or my partner physical harm. Mr. Young, a freelance journalist, said he fed defendants' followers would seek revenge on me, following stories published about Robinson being in Cyprus during unrest in the UK
Starting point is 00:45:57 after three girls were murdered in Southport. Robinson, who founded the English Defence League, pleaded not guilty to two charges of harassment causing fair of violence in July last year. He is also accused of harassing the journalist through a telephone call on August 5th, 2024, in which he is accused of telling Mr. Young he would visit his house, saying, I'm coming to get you. One of the direct messages that Robinson is accused of sending Dermhuber on X on the same day allegedly said, I'll be knocking at your door.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Now, this is new. The court was played a voicemail. left by Tommy for Ted Verity, my former editor, the editor-in-chief of the Daily Mail on August the 7th, 2024. The message from Tommy said, hi, Edward, it's Tommy Robinson. I'd like you to talk to me, speak to me. I need to speak to you. Obviously, I think you've overstepped the boundaries of journalism by endangering families and children. If that's fair game, that's what I want to talk to you about. You've obviously destroyed my children's holiday in the cost of thousands and I'll give you an opportunity to sort it out because at the minute I'm looking at you and the other two journalists.
Starting point is 00:47:11 In fact, all of you, yeah, if it's a fair game, then I'm a journalist. I'm going to cover you and your families like you've just done to mine year. Put pictures up of innocent people. You know I've got kids, you've got their locations. Well, if that's legitimate journalism, we'll know, because obviously you had the opportunity to it right. If it's legitimate journalism, then expect me to come knocking. I've already located every fucking one of you. I've got pictures of everyone here that can go in my story. The trial expected to last five days continues, and this is what Tommy's close friend and today his spokesman Gourmet Singh said on leaving court. We have just walked out a day two of the Tommy Robinson trial.
Starting point is 00:48:01 We'll be back here tomorrow at Southern Crown Court. Something a little bit more important, actually, that I want to talk to you about. Today is a two-year anniversary of Rihanna White's attack when she was stabbed 19 times in ahead by an illegal migrant from Sudan. I represented and family doing a speech in Pelt of the other week. I have been conversing with them quite a lot recently. it's a story that breaks my heart. I have made a short film about this attack.
Starting point is 00:48:27 It's on my social media. If you look down below this post, you will see it. I'm not going to be posted anything else for the rest of the day because I think it's important just to leave her story out there. So give it a light, give it a share, give it a watch and support the family at every opportunity you have. God bless. Take care. See you all soon. The American-based British commentator Jade Warwick
Starting point is 00:48:48 has posted on X Free Danny Tomo and Free Tommy Robinson, The two tear great Britain government are going after these men for standing up for British people. They risk arrest every day in Britain. I wish Tommy and Danny would just move to America and be protected by the First Amendment, but they won't. These patriots will fight the fight unapologetically on our behalf in person, not from behind a screen. Thank you, lads. To Rafe, Hedle, Mancoot. Raif, of course, we have to be very careful.
Starting point is 00:49:20 This is a live trial. It is a jury trial. And I think it is probably wise that Tommy Robinson has decided to stop speaking while this case is heard. At the same time, Rafe, can you understand why there is so much frustration from those of us in the independent media? Because we have effectively been locked out of the trial, not able to attend. They want to keep the benches for the mainstream media. and certainly, Rafe, when it comes to someone like Tommy Robinson, I think it is very clear that the mainstream media have their own agenda.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And so at the very least, the British justice system is going to have to start catching up. It's going to have to start catching up on a whole load of fronts, right, the explosion of social media, the explosion of citizen journalism. I mean, personally, Rafe, and you will probably be horrified by this as a traditionalist, But personally, I don't think these contempt of court laws work at all now in the current world that we have. I think we need to transition to an American-type system where people are able to say what they want to defend themselves. Because the idea that the mainstream media are going to be able to gatekeep long term when it comes to coverage of trials like this, I think, is naive. Oh, yeah, no, no, I'm not a traditionalist when it comes to this at all.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I'm firmly with you, and I think it's ridiculous in this country, the land of free speech, that there are these constraints that prevent organizations and media outlets from actually reporting and analyzing. I mean, when the Americans do it, they look at every single angle. They discuss these issues to death. We don't do it here. I mean, we're still in this country having to rely on chalk pastel drawings
Starting point is 00:51:11 of what goes on in courthouses. I mean, you know, that was designed for what, the 18th century. We need to bring video cameras into. Yes, exactly. Open justice. Yes, you know, the statue of liberty above the old Bailey, it doesn't have a blindfold because justice isn't blind. Well, the British public have been blindfolded by the justice system.
Starting point is 00:51:34 We need to see, we don't need a mediator, we don't need a middleman like the legacy media to interpret what happened. We need to see it for ourselves. And of course, it's obvious here that every attempt is being made to find any, way to get Tommy Robinson. We've seen this or tactics done before. If you can't find anything, I've not seen anything racist,
Starting point is 00:51:56 Tommy Robinson has ever said in his life. No, but they just call him racist. They just call him racist. I mean, Sly News yesterday was trying to blame him for the French riots. So, okay, so he's blamed for the so-called far-right riots over Southport. Now, France, now Sly News also blames him for the hard-left riots in France. The guy cannot win. And I think the point that you make, Rafe, is very important here too, because of course, in this case, the mainstream media is part of this story. The Daily Mail is part of this story, which is why it is very important. I think that there is an opening up of our justice system. But there is much, much more I want to say on this case. But unfortunately, I'm going to have to, you know, I'm going to have to keep it zipped because there is a jury trial.
Starting point is 00:52:46 the evidence will be heard over the course of the week, and then we should hopefully get a verdict by the end of the week. And at that point, I will be able to say what I really think. And it is shocking, actually, that we cannot say what we really think about cases like this and that there are these weird sort of reporting restrictions in place when quite rightly citizen journalists say exactly what they think and should keep on saying exactly. what they think. But it's an interesting case and of course, Rafe, we will keep right across it.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Hilarious scenes on LBC Radio where the new presenter, I don't know why she's doing this to herself, given how left us that station is, Reform UK's London Merrill candidate, Leila Cunningham, was tricked by a fake caller just like her leader Nigel Farage had been in this now iconic viral moment. Here's a reminder. It's funny. Sorry for Boris, Mark, or not? That's where I've been for the last few years. I've got to say, I'm immensely grateful to you for everything you've done in British Pointe's the last few years.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I used to be an ardent remain. I voted remain. I believed in the European project. I believed that staying in the European Union was the best thing for us. And then something happened and something monumental happened. And it completely changed my opinion on the whole situation. What was that monumental thing, Mark? I was kicked in the head by a horse.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Right, very good. Okay, fine. Thank you. Mark, we're going to move on from that and go to David, a new caller from Thatcham in Berkshire. They were clearly going to try and do the same thing to Leila Cunningham. My theory, and it's a theory backed up by conversations I've had with Katie Hopkins, is that the LBC producers wanted this to happen.
Starting point is 00:54:48 that it was probably a set up. But Leila, oh, come on, you should have been wise to this. Look, listen. You switched my support over to reform after reading the polls. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, I was not expecting that on the bingo card. You were green and you moved to reform. That is a transition mark.
Starting point is 00:55:08 It is. Tell me, are you happy? Welcome. I feel very welcome, yes. Tell me why you switched. to us. Now, I know why you leave the Greens, for sure, because, you know, they seem to be a very anti-Semitic party. I know lots of Jewish people who do not feel safe when they live in green-controlled councils. But why have you switched? Well, it started randomly when I fell down the stairs and hit my head. Oh, well. So, probably for the first time, Lela Cunningham was
Starting point is 00:55:52 speechless. But Rave Hadele-Manku, in my view, she shouldn't have been speechless. This was very predictable, actually. And the problem is, Rave. A lot of people harking back to the days when LBC was a brilliant speech radio station. I mean, I remember it. You know, it was the black cab station. It was widely regarded as the voice of the cabbies, the voice of working class London. But on speaking to Katie Hopkins about her experiences at the station and about how both she Foggetty, and other leftist hosts like James O'Brien, worked with producers on LBC, Rave, to purposefully ambush her right, for the technology to fail. Makes me think they don't want Laila Cunningham to succeed.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And I just asked the question, Rave, and it's asking a question, is it possible that actually the appropriate screening was not done? on that caller because they wanted this moment to happen. Because all I'm saying, Rafe, is you never hear any callers get through to James O'Brien mistakenly, do you? But when it's Nigel Farage or Lela Cunningham, because clearly, Rafe, as soon as you see the set up to that call, and remember, I've done talk radio. I know exactly how it works. The producers speak to the caller. They provide you like a little sentence, summing up what they're going to say. And as soon as someone says, oh, I've gone from the Green Party to Reform UK.
Starting point is 00:57:21 You know, ding, ding, ding, the alarm bells should be ringing because this is likely a set-up. This is likely a fake to try and make Leila Cunningham look stupid. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know. Obviously, it could be one or the other. You could be absolutely right. If I wanted to get good ratings for my radio show, I might be inclined to plant some of those things myself.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Business is business after all. But yes, you're quite right. You don't have those sorts of pranks seemingly performed for people, odious characters like James O'Brien, although perhaps it's because there are no right-wing people who would want to listen and sit through one of James O'Brien's daily rants. So perhaps the reality is that there is nobody on the right who wants to phone in on that.
Starting point is 00:58:03 But the point is, I would say more, is that why wasn't Dela Kunningham more prepared for this? You know, you've got the Nigel Farage precedent set, but it's inevitable, especially on somewhere like LBC, which is not a right-wing radio station, that you are going to get people phoning in, apart from Nick Ferrari and Leila Cunningham, I don't know who's left there.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I mean, they did have Nigel Farage there for one point. So, yeah, the likelihood of getting this in, she's a seasoned barrister. She's used to thinking on her feet. The correct response would be to laugh because it is a funny prank. I mean, I thought it was amusing. I would be a sort of thing
Starting point is 00:58:36 that I would have probably done in my late teens, early 20s when I did call into radio shows myself, perhaps, or it would be from the other direction. And I think you'd just have to laugh off those moments. and just admit that you got owned and say rather a good one. But it's one thing for someone to say that they were a Remainer,
Starting point is 00:58:52 who then went to leave. Once you go from Green to reform, or that's such a big leap that I think, yes, anyone's alarm or should have been going off. Rafe, there's a huge amount of hypocrisy going on, though, about this whole idea of politicians being able to present on TV stations, right? So we've got the example of Layla Cunningham on LBC. No one has a problem with that.
Starting point is 00:59:13 There's a much, much more egregious example that I just want to show you a little moment of. This was from the weekend. Aisha Hazarika, who is a Labour pair, a Labor member of the House of Lords, which according to the off-communist definition now makes you a serving politician. Yet she was sent up on the flagship Sly News Sunday morning show. You know Trevor Phillips, who previously had hosted, has gone to CBS in America to work for Barry Vice. so they're now testing like a whole load of people. But anyway, you've got this labour woman interviewing a labour woman, look.
Starting point is 00:59:49 The things we're talking cross purposes, because you know you're a journalist. There are things that you, of course, will want to comment on. There are things that the government has to. I mean, it's a joke. This is like when Ed Ball's Levec Cooper's husband spoke to her, but interviewed her. But I was actually struck by my memory of this. interview, Rave. Sophie Ridge, flagship presenter on The Breakfast Show on Sly News, who told the I newspaper in an interview politicians like Nigel Farage shouldn't be TV presenters. So I asked her
Starting point is 01:00:29 quite a simple question, Rave, she hasn't replied. Surprising, I used to work with Sophie. She lives just down the road. Come on, has cat got your tongue, Ms. Ridge? I seem to remember Sophie Ridge having a problem with politicians presenting TV shows. Do you have a problem with the below Sof? Or is it only Ritees on GB News who you think should be taken off air by the off-communists? And this hypocrisy, Rafe, stinks because Ruth Davidson, another conservative politician has a show on Sly News, was also given one of these hosting slots. So in reality, let's just be honest about it. And I know you're a regular on his show on GB News. All of this outrage is specifically designed to get Nigel Farage taken off GB News, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:01:11 There's nothing else behind it. They actually don't have a problem, even with Lela Cunningham, presented on LBC. That's fine, because LBC is considered one of their stations. Really, they only have a problem
Starting point is 01:01:23 with Nigel Farage presenting on GB News. That's it. And they hide behind this thing of politicians shouldn't present on TV, but they don't give a damn any other time there's a different example of it. You know, David Lammy used to host on LBC.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Angela Rainey used to host on LBC. Never a problem with it. Yeah, you've hit the nail right on the head. I mean, you said everything I could possibly say. This is clearly designed. They are, you know, all guns are now out for reform and for Nigel. They've hated the fact that he's had such a, because he's so capable and so eloquent and has an ability to connect with people, they've regarded the fact that he's got this platform as being extremely dangerous and a threat to the establishment. And that's why they want to take him down. And the British people can see right through it. there is nothing that the British people hate more than hypocrisy.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You know, it's Diane Abbott criticizing private schools while sending her children to private schools. It's that sort of thing that really sticks in the craw. And to see people like Ed Balls interviewing his wife on television, to see what we just saw there on Sky News on the weekend. I mean, it's just the blatant hypocrisy here. And, of course, I don't you wonder, can they not see it? Or are they just so disingenuous now that they've got to a point, actually,
Starting point is 01:02:36 when they believe their own lives. Yeah, I think it's probably a little bit of both. I think it's probably a little bit of both. But yeah, I'm with Rafe. I don't actually have a problem with the caller on LBC. I thought it was funny. But I just thought Leila Cunningham should have dealt with it as a funny call.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Come on, these things happen. I like a good old prank call myself, I have to say. This is why when Nigel Farage was talking about because you know he's launching Reform TV on YouTube. That is coming soon. is currently in the works and he said that one of the things he really wants to do is phone ins. And I know that this is true because when I was at GB News with Nigel Farage, he was desperate for the station to launch phonins, something they've never done.
Starting point is 01:03:18 And I just thought, oh, Nigel, no, you don't want to do that. You do not want to launch a phoning because it's just going to be full of like leftists and also probably very funny, restore supporters having you on. So I think just be very careful on that front would be my advice. Breaking right now, Prince Harry is denying what we all just heard him say in this brand new tell-all interview with GQ magazine, where he not only begs for reconciliation with the British royal family, specifically his brother, Prince William, he then goes on to blame the future king for stopping a reconciliation from taking place. But the timing of this interview, I think, is one of the things that has upset me most,
Starting point is 01:04:11 because what we are seeing here is the real royals doing real royal work. King Charles, Queen Camilla, Prince William, Catherine, the Princess of Wales, all out and forced today for this state visit from the Sultan of Oman, a very important state visit, actually, because it's many, many years since there has been one of these occasions. And it's not just this state visit either that Prince Harry knew was in the diary, knew was meant to gain a lot of attention, obviously because of the geopolitical aspect of it, but also because it was the first time that Prince William and King Charles would be seen in public together since Harry's return, Harry, remember, had said, oh no, the king doesn't want to speak to William either.
Starting point is 01:05:01 But it is also going to overshadow now the anniversary of Abafan tomorrow, an incredibly important occasion where the British royal family will be marking that anniversary with William, Charles and Camilla all out in force. You'll remember that Abafan and that Welsh mining disaster was considered one of the most perilous moments of Queen Elizabeth II's reign because she originally didn't go. And when she did visit, burst into tears. Now, Harry was asked in this interview if he grieves for the end of his relationship with Prince William. And you make your own judgment, but I think Harry knew that he was going to go there.
Starting point is 01:05:47 He was just waiting for the opportunity. And quite despicably, he placed the blame at the door of his elder brother. Remember, by the way, Harry has been warned time and again by anyone can't. to the British Royal family. If you go public, if you continue to hang out, dirty laundry out in TV interviews, there will be no reconciliation.
Starting point is 01:06:13 So he knows what he is doing here. Look. Forgive me because I don't know the details here. Details of what? Here comes a question. You have talked about, at times, having a complicated relationship with your brother, your father.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Is that something that you, agree? Yeah, yes, of course. I think from a family perspective, again, another massively relatable issue for so many people. People, you know, there's sibling disagreements, there's broken relationships between, you know, kids and their parents, kids and one parent. Like that's, that is, that continues to come up with me the whole time by people that I speak to.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I'm sure. So I know how relatable it is. partly probably why there's so much fascination in the... Everybody's family. Everyone's family. And then people maybe look at us and go, how are you going to work it out? And then maybe how I see you're going to work it out,
Starting point is 01:07:13 maybe that will help me work my stuff out. And some people don't want it. How are you going to work it out? Well, some people don't want it to work out. I want it to work out. You do. Of course I do. There's no...
Starting point is 01:07:22 Again, with everything else that's going on in the world, the most important thing is to, you know, is to reconcile. That's the key point. Some people don't want it to work out. He's talking about William, okay? and Harry also makes it clear that he has not moved on, despite what he says, because he talks about the scars remaining. As if William did anything to him?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Seriously, what do William do to you, Harry? Apart from maybe aggressively push you into a dog bowl because you'd been such a damn asshole and most people say you deserve that, although I don't even believe it happened. And then he ludicrously also claims, after writing a book about the family, after making a TV documentary, documentary series about the family, after slagging the family off and interviews with Anderson Cooper, in interviews with Tom Brady, Harry then has the cheek to say, I don't want the family drama. Is this wound something that you think you can repair? Yeah, of course. I think every, look, scars stick around forever, but how you, how, what your perception is and what your mindset is to those things that have happened, certainly letting go of the
Starting point is 01:08:32 past, that's something that I would encourage everybody to do. If there's certain things from the past that are still affecting your every day, that's harder to let you off. But yeah, for me, it's, there's enough drama in the world and enough drama in people's lives than to continue with issues with family, you know? It's just like, it's not worth it. That's hard to say to people when you're in it. Yeah. I mean, are you on good terms with everyone in your family? Maybe you are. Yeah. Yeah. I am. I am. I'm my blood, Harry. And I would never ever trash them in the way that you did. But of course, the interview is released. And within moments, Harry's team are trying to tell us that we shouldn't believe what we just heard with our own ears, that we shouldn't believe what we just saw with our own eyes.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Look at this from Tom Sykes. Harry denies Shadine, William, in GQ interview. His spokesperson, and sister pointed lie about reconciliation was general, but Sykes says the transcript says otherwise. So let me just read you the full quote from Harry's team. It was absolutely, they say, not intended as a swipe at his brother or any other member of his family. The comment was made in a general context and was not directed at his family in any way. However, Sykes says, a careful reading of the transcript and indeed watching the relevant bit of the video, which I've posted here, makes it very clear that the question was specifically about his family, specifically about his brother, and specifically about his father.
Starting point is 01:10:17 And Rave Hidal-Manku, I think what we're witnessing in real time, Rave, of course, a brilliant royal historian and broadcaster, I think what we're witnessing in real time, Rave, is Harry's team realizing, oh, God, God, he's just gone and screwed up any chance of reconciliation. Because we all knew what he was talking about. We all knew he was blaming William. And what has William been very clear on? He is not going to allow this to become a psychodrama. He's not going to allow this to become a back and forth. He's not going to engage in any type of public showdown with Harry.
Starting point is 01:10:53 So yet again, he's screwed up. He's moved back to the country, Rafe. Well, he's only been here about two months. he couldn't even keep his mouth shut for that long before we get the new tawdry TV tell-all. So personally, I hope William does not reconcile, and I mean that. Yes, well, I think that's one of the safest bets we can make
Starting point is 01:11:13 is that there's going to be no reconciliation between the brothers for, I would say, years to come, if at all. But of course, his, it's not just this cock-up by potentially putting the blame, blaming William. There's been a cacophony of cock-up since he arrived. going to Nottingham. We know how much that will have annoyed the royal family to see him and his wife swaggering and swanning around Nottingham
Starting point is 01:11:38 as if they were still active members of the royal family. And whilst he can say that what he said in this GQ interview was a slip-up to say some people don't want it, the very fact that he gave this interview, knowing that it was going to be published on the same day as the state visits of the Sultan of Oman, shows you, in my view, that he's got no real intention, really,
Starting point is 01:11:59 of reconciling in any really meaningful sense. He knows the royal system. The royal system is you do not compete with the royal family when it's a big newsday. You do not compete. You want tomorrow's newspapers to be nice photographs of the king and the prince of princes of Wales with the sultan at the state banquet at Winter Castle,
Starting point is 01:12:20 which is happening shortly. But it may well be pictures of Harry now on the front pages in some capacity as well. I mean, everything he's doing seems to me to be a sign that he's not serious about this at all. And perhaps he gave a subconscious indication of that when he was asked whether he grieves for the breakdown of his relationship with his brother and his father.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Because it took him five seconds before he could think of an answer. If he really was grieving this man who wears his heart on his sleeve, he would have said immediately, yes. But he paused and thought, what should I say? Yeah, and Rafe, absolutely no sign of any regret on his part. So there's a lot of talk about, oh, he's moving on. You know, he's forgiving and we'll come to some other moments where he does that. And it's actually like, this was an opportunity for him to actually say, I'm sorry. There's not even a hint of regret or remorse or humiliation on his side. And there never is.
Starting point is 01:13:21 And so I think he always allows these opportunities to play in the completely incorrect. manner. I mean, for example, imagine if he had just said, well, look, I absolutely respect that my brother, the future king, has requested privacy on these matters. So I don't want it to look as if I'm avoiding your question, but because I want reconciliation, I am going to respect his wishes. And by the way, I am very, very sorry about how some of my previous comments in regards to my brother were interpreted. just imagine Rafe if he had said that. I honestly think maybe that would open the door, but he can't bring himself to say that.
Starting point is 01:14:07 And so as a result, the door remains firmly shut because the suggestion, Rafe, is basically like, I was treated really badly and I'm prepared to move on from it. Yeah, and you're absolutely right. And what's remarkable, of course, is this is a man who has apparently spent years and years in therapy, on self-discovery, on self-examination, and yet never have we ever heard the words, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:14:34 never has there been any indication that even 1% of the issues that they're facing might be due to the antics of him and his wife. And it's that failure to take accountability for everything, whereas, of course, most people in this country would say that 90% of the problems have been self-inflicted by them. I mean, that really goes to show, I think, while he is not, shares about reconciliation and why it will never happen. I mean, even in this interview, he was talking about, well, some behavior, it may not stop the behaviors, but I think some behaviors might
Starting point is 01:15:06 change in some way. I mean, that just goes to show. He's still essentially saying that it was his task to change the institution. That's why I was, you know, that's what I did what I did. He talks about necessary battles having been fought. What necessary battles would those have been, you know, I can't imagine. Those were battles that you created that didn't need to be. And he talks about putting things in the past. And just after he said that, he went on a moaned again. I mean, this man clearly doesn't have a clue as to how you really do try to get harmony between the family for all of his new age thinking. And, Rave, I'm just going to be very clear on this.
Starting point is 01:15:44 The timing is not coincidental. If you conduct a major interview like this and your Prince Harry, and he's promoting this project called the Masterclass, which is this weird thing that he's done on, on grief and it's actually been out for a few weeks. He has control of the timing. So his team could 100% have told GQ magazine, you cannot release the interview on the day that my father is hosting the Sultan of Oman for a very important state visit. And you certainly cannot release the interview, I would argue, in the week. But even if you say within a 48-hour window of the Abafan anniversary, But I do believe, Rafe, that this has been done specifically to try and push the British royal family off the front pages.
Starting point is 01:16:32 It will be interesting to see if they're able to achieve that. But as you say, the sad thing is that all of a sudden a story which goes from being these wonderful pictures of Catherine hosting the Sultan of Oman, and tomorrow what is set to be a very, very emotional day at Abafan, all of a sudden what happens is it's like amid this new Prince Harry psychodrama. so he has managed to insert himself within the story. And the thing is, Rafe, we have all known for a long time about this Apophan visit tomorrow and how significant it is, because of course it did become one of those moments that ended up defining the late Queen Elizabeth the Second's reign in a way, 60 year anniversary. And I guess it's 60 years, Rafe, I'm fascinated in your view as a royal historian,
Starting point is 01:17:19 but I'd argue it's 60 years of the royal family realizing they have to be in touch with their people. They do have to show emotion at appropriate times because, of course, the late Queen was initially criticized for not going to the scene. Prince Philip went in her place. She was advised not to, and when she did go, Rafe, I think it was only about six days later. She, well, the reporting from the Daily Mail at the time at least was that she was almost weepy. in public because she was so emotional about all of the young children that had been killed as a result of that landslide. Yeah, I mean, the monarchy of today is very different to the monarchy of the 1960s. Tomorrow is the 60th anniversary of this also Trafalgar Day.
Starting point is 01:18:06 And that was such a, that was such a shocking moment for the Royal Family to realize that they needed to actually, you know, soften that stiff upper lip. And the sang foie had to warm up a bit. And of course, you contrast that with what happened after the Grenfell fire. remember when Grenfell burned to the ground, Theresa May didn't show up for a while. It was the Queen who was the first one to go. And when Theresa May arrived, she didn't engage with the people that were there. She was shielded by her own crew. She just met some counsellors. And then she was swept away, whereas the Queen actually made the effort to engage with people. And that was a direct lesson from Abafan. I mean, you can see legacies also, obviously, of Diana, Princess
Starting point is 01:18:44 of Wales, when the Royal Family now meet people who are sick in hospitals or children. they will crouch down, they will kneel down. You see that a lot with the current Princess of Wales doing that. That's a legacy. So everything that you see, these are all meaningful ways in which the Royal Family can survive. And that's one of the reasons why our monarchy has survived and others have collapsed. It's been the ability of the institution to modernise with the times, while still, of course, retaining the essential trappings that make it seem as if it's timeless.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Yes, but there is a huge challenge coming for King Charles Rafe. and this is in regards to the Caribbean state visit, which is on the horizon, specifically a visit to Guyana. And you won't be surprised to know, woke ITV, which is absolutely in Team Harry and Megan, and I think is pretty anti-monarchy these days,
Starting point is 01:19:39 Ray, for at least once a very woke monarchy, are now pushing this idea that King Charles is really going to let Guyana down by not agreeing to either an apology or reparations. Reparations, by the way, that would bankrupt this country. I mean, you've got to remember they, I mean, they want trillions. I mean, it's something like 18, 18 trillion. You know, it's like, it's, it's ludicrous. But the president, the head of state of Guyana has given this new interview to woke ITV. Personally, I thought it was ludicrous. But this is how Chris Schip, the royal editor, sort of set it up. President Muhammad Irfan Ali says King Charles has recognized slavery is the darkest days in human history,
Starting point is 01:20:21 but moving to the apology is the next step. And then there was actually, Rafe, I think, an attack on people like you, people like me, British people who are actually proud, believe it or not, proud of the British Empire. Watch. And the president says he is shocked when he hears some British politicians insist the country should simply be proud of its history. So you're highly critical of those in British politics who are saying that there is no, there shouldn't be a sense of guilt about our past. Something is seriously wrong with them.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Something is seriously wrong within that mentality of anyone. People died on the ships coming to this part of the world. And there is nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with being shackled and beaten in the fields. And he just doesn't accept. He just doesn't accept that we no longer have trillions in reparations for Guyana. You who benefited tremendously from the darkest days of human history benefited materially and financially are now telling me that you don't have enough financing to match your needs.
Starting point is 01:21:34 You exploited the region, you destroyed lives, you created on the development. So imagine what the region faces, the damage that slavery would have created for generations. So, Rave, I mean, look, he can do it politically, right? But for me, this is all about the mainstream media trying to shape this visit around the reparations debate, put it front and centre, knowing full well that there's nothing King Charles can do. It really reminds me, Rafe, do you remember the 2022 visit to the Caribbean of Prince William and Catherine, the Princes of Wales, which I think they were superb? And actually they were beloved there, but the mainstream media completely shaped. Yeah, this was the visit, Rafe. I mean, the people loved them, right.
Starting point is 01:22:25 But the mainstream media completely shaped the visit around this idea of, oh, how terrible, how colonial were they and how terrible that they were shaking people's hand through the barbed wire. And it was all because, of course, Harry and Megan at the time were accusing the British royal family of racism. It was all shaped through that prism. And it's like, can we not just have King Charles be able to go, on this tour of the Caribbean without sort of trying to force him into defending the British Empire.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I just find it so boring, but in some ways, don't we need the King also to maybe dismiss it a little bit more? You know, the fact is we've already apologised. Prince Albert, at 1840, gave a huge speech talking about the evils of slavery. There is no way that the King is going to apologize for this.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I mean, once you apologize, you just open the door and you encourage and insight more. Nobody alive today is a victim of British Empire's slavery and nobody alive today is responsible for that, including the king. So no one can apologize for slavery, and neither should we. You know, slavery is universal. It's been around for thousands of years. What's unique is that Britain was the first power to deliberately make itself poorer
Starting point is 01:23:34 to achieve that great moral good of actually abolishing slavery. And I would tell people like Chris Schip, I was very disappointed with his tweet and the president or head of state of Guyana. You know, that's Guyana and the Caribbean state, have much better quality of lives than if their ancestors had never left West Africa. They live for between 10 to 15 years longer in the Caribbean than in West Africa. The GDP in places like Benin in Africa is $1,400 a year per capita. It's around 16,000, 17,000 in the Caribbean.
Starting point is 01:24:08 They're 10 times richer, 10 years more of life expectancy. And the most successful parts of the Caribbean are those places that are still under British or French or American rule in the case of Puerto Rico. The reason they're not doing so well is because of people like the head of state of Guyana. It's been corrupt leaders who cannot run their countries, epic mismanagement and incompetence in running their economies and their institutions and their infrastructure. You don't see Singapore calling out for handouts. Singapore is now one of the world's richest countries. Yet after World War II, it was an economic backwater like the Caribbean. Rather than trying to blame others and wallow in vicarious.
Starting point is 01:24:48 victimhood, the Caribbean people should take accountability and understand that the reason for their failings are entirely within their own communities and their own culture. Breaking right now, two men have been re-arrested over an alleged plot near RAAF Fairford. Counter-terrorism policing re-arrested these two men today as part of the investigation into activity near RAAF Fairford. it is a 24-year-old UK national and significantly a 25-year-old dual UK and Iranian national, both from the borough of Westminster in London, and they have been arrested.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You won't be surprised to learn on suspicion of assisting a foreign intelligence service. The country to which the investigation relates is Iran, police said. You'll remember the 24-year-old man was initially arrested on the 27th of September, Nair RAF Fairford and the 25-year-old was later arrested on the 1st of October in Westminster, Central London. So we certainly know where this story is going. Okay, we're about to reveal today's Greatest Britain and Union Jackass, but first let me get to some of your comments today. June more, 9-684, says if it wasn't for independent journalists, we would know nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:08 The British Isles are under a serious security risk, but this government does not care one iota, vote reform for immediate. changes. Blueberry bubblegum, 65 says our government needs arresting for bringing this into our country. Serco needs scrutinising. There are a massive part of this making bags of money. Sam C-179 says, I want to get out of this country. I don't recognize it anymore. There is no way our elected officials are this incompetent. We are being controlled by foreign powers. McClart, 6663 forces, how much longer do the people of England have to put up with idiots like James O'Brien? And in terms of the riots in France. Macqua 4610 says these are not students. There are not enough students in France
Starting point is 01:26:52 to make up these crowds. Okay, a reminder of your nominees today. Rafe nominated Abdul Qaeda Ismaili, the man behind this new Palestine poppy. He certainly has an interesting past too. And Muhammad Yassim, the ISIS terrorist jihadi, living in Windsor, just down the road from the British Royal Family and I nominated Prince Harry for that town. All-All interview overshadowing the state visit. It was tight today. In third place, Mohammed Yassin, the runner-up with 33% of the vote, Prince Harry. But the winner, Abdul Qadar is Mali.
Starting point is 01:27:29 I mean, this guy has a very interesting past and everything, doesn't he, Rafe? I mean, I'm not behind the Palestine poppy. You won't be surprised to learn. Yeah, no. You're absolutely right. I will be wearing my... real poppy proudly. But, Rife, we wanted to nominate Chauvonne White today to be our greatest Britain. Two years, Raph, she's had to live without her darling Riannon White.
Starting point is 01:28:01 And the thing is, Raph, I completely understand that there are some families after one of their children is taken away by an illegal who don't want to get involved in the political fight. but my God, don't you think Chauvin White has been such an important voice for the true horrors of mass immigration? Of course, we've got to remember Riannon's murderer had literally arrived on a small boat rave just a few weeks before stabbing her 21 times through the head with the screwdriver. Such a great selection, I think, for Greatest Pritchin. A brilliant woman, especially so because she's not an elected politician. She's not somebody who has sought out the spotlight. she had it thrust upon her for the most awful reasons, and she's taken that.
Starting point is 01:28:47 So she represents all the British women in this country who are concerned about this, as well as the British population a whole. But she is the every man, or should I say, the every woman. And we can all relate to her and we can only hope that she is one of the last to have to endure the sort of suffering she's endured. Let's hope so. Yeah, she's become a great friend of outspoken, a great friend of mine, and a wonderful woman, a sad day, but absolutely a great.
Starting point is 01:29:12 as Britain on the two-year anniversary of the murder of Chauvonne White. Rafe Hadle Mancoo, thank you so much for being here today. Rafe is, of course, the fellow at the New Culture Forum, which you must subscribe to, and he also has his own brilliant YouTube channel, which you can find and subscribe to by searching for Rafe Hadle Mancoo. We've got much more royal analysis of this Prince Harry Bombshell interview over on Substack now with Royal YouTube Sensation P. Diner. I hope to see you there.
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