Dan Wootton Outspoken - ISLAMISTS SWARM LONDON TO BACK IRAN AS SADIQ KHAN COPS ARREST ANTI-HALAL RESTAURANT OWNER

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Islamist mad men swarm Sadiq Khan’s London to support Iran’s dead ayatollah, responsible for the brutal murders of tens of thousands of women who dared to fight for a future ou...t of the niqab. But rather than arrest Bob Vylan, they’re instead targeting Harman Singh Kapoor, the Restore Britain supporter who refused to sell halal meat at his London restaurant, resulting in him having to defend himself from a mad mob. But when he did, he was arrested by the Met Police. He will join Dan to tell his story. Meanwhile, the mainstream media ignore what’s really happening in this country, deciding to instead focus their deranged hysteria-level coverage on the bogeymen of Tommy Robinson and truth tellers on GB News. We’ll get analysis with the great Doctor Phillip Kiszely, cultural historian. academic, author and senior fellow of the New Culture Forum. PLUS: Zack Polanski finally busted for his tit whispering stunt. The Green Party leader lied – and we’ve got the proof. AND: In a special edition of The Clash, we’ll debate whether it’s wrong for ultimate women shagger Harry Styles to keep pretending he’s gay in the new queer bating controversy after his appearance on Saturday Night Live. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: We team up with the Royal News Network to reveal the truth about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s public war with author Tom Bower, who they have branded “deranged” for daring to tell the truth about the strains in their marriage. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Whitten. This is outspoken episode number 447. And breaking right now, Islamist madmen swarm Sadiq Khan's London to support Iran's dead Ayatollah responsible for the brutal murders of tens of thousands of women who dared fight for a future out of the kneecap. But rather than arrest Bob villain, they are instead targeting Harman, Kepaur, the Restore Britain supporter who refused to sell halal meat at his London restaurant resulting in him having to defend himself from the mob. Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake! Wake! So when he did defend himself, Haman was arrested by the Metropolitan Police. Well, Haman Singh Kapoor, who is now receiving support from John Cleese,
Starting point is 00:01:30 is on the way home with his wife Kushi, and he will be here to reveal his shocking story very shortly. Meanwhile, the mainstream media ignore what's really happening in this country, deciding to instead focus their deranged hysteria level coverage on the bogey men of Tommy Robinson and truth tellers on G. There are the bans on Tommy Robinson's hooligans and actually worse than hooligans when they've been marching every week terrorizing people of colour. Guess what? In 20, 30 years, there will be no white nations left and I would love to
Starting point is 00:02:06 know where you're planning on going when they really turn on us because it has happened before and it will happen again. The actual I mean, I'm flabbergasted. The idea, well, genocide, isn't that a little bit of a little bit? bit harsh, a little bit far? No, it's not, and I'll tell John Sopal why, then analysis with the great Dr. Philip
Starting point is 00:02:29 Kazali, cultural historian, academic author and senior fellow of the New Culture Forum. Also coming up on the show today, Zach Polanski finally busted for his tit-whispering stunt. The Green Party leader lied and we've got the proof.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Trigonometry host, Constantine Kisson, has been subjected to a sick Charlie Kerr style assassination plot. This is really horrifying. We'll reveal all. And in a special edition of the Clash, we'll debate whether it's wrong for ultimate women shaggar Harry's styles to keep pretending he's gay in this new queer-baiting controversy after his appearance on Saturday Night Live. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show over on Substat, we team up with the Royal News Network to reveal the truth about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's public war with the author Tom Bauer,
Starting point is 00:03:21 who they have branded deranged for daring to tell the truth about the strains in their marriage you can sign up to watch at www. outspoken.org. It's also the first greatest Britain and union jackass for over a week. So get voting in the live chat right now.
Starting point is 00:03:39 The nominations are. Harry Stiles, I've put him up for the queer baiting shame. Philip Cazelli has nominated Jonathan Liu who thinks opening a bakery with an Israeli connection on a London street is a huge act of aggression towards Palestine. And Ed Davy, who he says is the greatest danger to the Britain we love, because of course, he just hates us. That's after Ed Davy said from a dark form of politics that wraps itself in the Union Jack.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So keep your votes coming in throughout the show. Keep your comments coming in throughout the show. I have missed them these past week. I will share the best before we go. today. But now, let's go. Oh, so it was welcome back to London, right? Welcome back to London. Yes, I've been away for a week with my namesake niece, Ivy Dan in Auckland, New Zealand, which yes, is a major Western city not dominated by Islamists and anti-white races who spend every waking minute trying to destroy the culture they decided to join. And I thought when I arrived back,
Starting point is 00:04:50 maybe things have improved. Maybe the Londoners. that I knew before Sadiq Khan turned it into a Muslim hellhole would peek back somehow. And then this is what I walked into. This is what I walked into the hard left protesting in support of Iran's dead Ayatollah. Yep, the Islamist responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of women who dared to fight for a future out of the kneecap. When one Ali dies, a million are reborn. Of course, the delightful pop star Bob villain, the favourite of the scumbags at the paedophile supporting BBC was there too. The Zionist influence here in the UK is palpable.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We can feel it. We can see it. We can see it. look at these pigs that are here today itching to put their heavy hands on any itching to put their hands on any and every one of us that might challenge the wretched system that they uphold and i would like to conclude with death death to the eye man so happy to be back in london with bob villain the thing is though He's got the British police all wrong because they have no intention of locking you up, Mr Villain.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Because there's a white bloke called Lee returning from Holiday to Manchester Airport. And he made a joke on Facebook. Everybody, six-arm police locking Lee up for Facebook posts. What another joke. Can you believe this? The joke is everyone's got everyone's on police here. So if people counted in better, that I mean, you know, it's probably funny what you posted. It's a joke.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Utter joke. Absolute utter pathetic joke. Prove it. Show me a post what is put what's racist. All right. Are you satisfied spoiling people's holidays? All for a Facebook post. Let's say this allegation is true.
Starting point is 00:08:31 How is she? How is it? Somehow I don't think it should be left to the police to decide what joke is funny and what constitutes someone being locked up. Do you? As Lucy Connolly, who went to prison for over 12 months for a tweet, posted, I thought they were doing away with non-crime, hate crimes. This is utterly insane. Tell me again that we have free speech in the UK.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Or what about the case of Haman Singh Kapoor, the Restore Britain supporter who refused to sell halal meat at his London Indian restaurant? Look at the response. Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up. All of you, you're causing breach of the pace. So you got to move and leave the air around. You got moved and you got moved and you got moved. I'm touching the egg. You're creating breach of the...
Starting point is 00:09:49 So an Indian restaurant owner being targeted because he won't sell halal products. He bravely posted again, halal eggs were pelted at my restaurant last night. This cannot stop me from doing my job and feeding my family. I will clean this up and carry on with my usual business. But guess who was arrested as he vowed to protect himself, to defend himself? You guessed it, Amman himself. He posted afterwards. The client takes his medication or I have a bit of water. He posted afterwards negligence, harassment and false arrest by the Metropolitan Police. I was arrested because I vowed to protect my family against any threat from criminals and radicals.
Starting point is 00:10:45 The Met Police refused to help us and failed us on many occasions. I have right under common law to defend me and my family against any threat. Under pressure, they arrested me for carrying my religious data. which is my birthright and permitted under British law, but he added, let's reunite the kingdom. And Haman will be here shortly alongside his wife, Cushy, for an exclusive interview. He is receiving high-profile support, though, from Fulty Towers legend John Cleese, who posted on X after the arrest. I read this and wondered, can anyone, can this really be happening in England, if it is my next thought is, where am I going to live? Meanwhile, the hard left,
Starting point is 00:11:31 who are welcome and embraced and enhanced by our corrupted MSM, like Yasmin Alabiah Brown, who went on Channel 5 to lie about Tommy Robinson, to lie about Unite the Kingdom supporters, simply to try and justify the sickening actions of London's pro-Iran mob. the bans on Tommy Robinson's hooligans and actually worse than hooligans, when they've been marching every week terrorizing people of colour, where are the bans? Well, there are no bans against the pro-Palestinian marches. Yeah, but these are violent people I'm talking about, not just talking about democratic. Well, there have equally been, uh, no bans.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Why are there no bans on them? ...like language on the pro-Palestinian marches as well. I'm sorry, I've been on the pro-Palestine marches. But they have been a rest of a misconduct. This is all being a vendetta at the one point against those who won't give up. There are some nasty people who go on pro-Palestine marches. I know that. And I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And one of them even took a picture of me marching past them. These are some of the risks that happen. But this is not about that. It is an authoritarian state. And where they don't stop the, you know, make Britain white again, all of those people. and they stop this, it tells you something. Well, Tommy Robinson responded to that writing, listen to the contempt Yasmin Alibaya Brown
Starting point is 00:12:58 has towards our Unite the Kingdom rallies. She thinks we hold them every week, and they're violent, all because Terramarchal Khuds has been banned. Go back to the desert if you're not happy here. And there is growing disenchantment and a feeling that we are being swamped, and this is about culture, not about colour. I live in a part of London where you can get on a bus.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It's not about colour. I don't hear an English voice. I don't hear an English language sometimes. So it's bad to shut down this conversation because I don't think it is about colour and race. I think it's about a feeling of being swamped where the immigration is much bigger. Normally people integrate and we adapt bits of each other's culture.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I think there are certain cultures where they won't change. They will not adapt to other cultures. You know, the position of women, a position of gay people. Those views are fixed and they're not willing to budge. I've got Serbian friends. I've got Jewish friends. I've got people from all sorts of, I've got Muslim friends. And they've adapted.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But there is a strong contingent of people coming into this country who rigidly stick to their beliefs. And, yeah, I disagree completely. Vanessa's face horrified because she knows it's true. Indeed, the public are now rising up against race baiters like Narinda Cor. Narinda is forever going on like that. I bet you if you were asked, if you were to ask her, straight out, do you consider yourself British or Indian? I wonder what she would say.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I'd say I'm British India. I'd say I'm British India. I'm glad to hear that because the thing that you say usually, you're always going on about brown people, black people, people, it gets on my nerves. That's where the problem begins. I tell you what it's what my nerves, Alice, is the rise of racism. And the fact that in this country... Well, it's true.
Starting point is 00:14:57 We've had footballers who are booed because they broke Ramadan. So there is... I can give you incidents all day. So I don't think that's correct either. Sorry, can I speak now? Because people are ever going on. All right, now, as far as I'm concerned, the first thing, she's going on about Ramadan, I don't know what she's
Starting point is 00:15:16 butching on about because as far as I'm concerned in this country now, we do celebrate Diwali, we do celebrate Ramadan, so I don't see what the problem is. There are some truth tellers who are managing to get the message out, like Thomas Corbett Dillon, even on G.B. News. Watch. And this minority, I hate this word minority, but guess what? What is the minority in the world? It is 10% of the world is white people. That is the minority. And once again, another country, is being turned into a no longer white nation. You're looking at the same thing that you're in South Africa.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's happening in Europe all across Europe and in 10, 20 years, there will be no white nations left and then the question is, where do white people go? If there is a genocide against white people, where do they go? There is no more land. So this argument, oh, but isn't it so nice that it would be boring if we didn't have these people, oh, because what, you can get a curry down the street. Guess what? In 20, 30 years, there will be no white nations left
Starting point is 00:16:14 And I would love to know where you're planning on going when they really turn on us because it has happened before and it will happen again. That exchange, of course, left the fake news agents completely aghast. You know, in Birmingham and England, you've got the Muslims, the base you just live in there. They all speak the same language. They live in their own little world. You get that in America. When people move to this country, they tend to integrate pretty well. You kind of embrace America. There's not been much embracing of British values among these communities. And I hate this idea that England is just like a no man's land. It's like, no, there is an indigenous population.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I've lived on that island for thousands of years. And, you know, if this was happening in any other place around the world, everyone would be defending and saying, wow, there's a genocide happening in this island because it is being taken over by different people that are not indigenous to that land. What the actual? I mean, I'm flabbergasted.
Starting point is 00:17:08 The idea, well, genocide, isn't that a little bit harsh, a little bit far? That's balance, isn't it? A little bit far. I mean, how many tens of thousands of Indigenous Brits have lost their lives in this slaughter that has taken place, which seems to have passed me by? Maybe there's a conspiracy by all the conventional news channels that we haven't been covering the mass murder of Britons on the streets by foreign invaders. Oh no. John, there's been no genocide of the English, has there?
Starting point is 00:17:37 We aren't going to become a minority in our own country within a couple of decades, are we? Thousands and thousands of young white girls aren't been pillory. and raped by Pakistani Muslim men, are they? We're not all being subjected to Islamist terror attacks. And then Lewis Goodall, who claims he wants to debate, deems this debate far too dangerous for GB News. We're sort of joking, but I mean, it's genuinely offensive. And not only that, but I mean, I'm just surprised
Starting point is 00:18:04 that we are at a point where that sort of idea can be deemed respectable and can be deemed to be part of the sort of normality of debate. I'm all for debate about all sorts of ideas. I am. I'm not one of these people
Starting point is 00:18:25 who believes that debate should be shut down and so on. But for a channel regulated by Offcom to broadcast the idea that mass migration equals genocide with the most gentle of pushbacks, I think
Starting point is 00:18:44 does show the extent to which so much of the conversation on the right of British politics in particular has become deeply, deeply radicalised. That wasn't just great replacement theory thrown in there. I mean, that was lurking at the very centre of it. They didn't talk about it
Starting point is 00:19:00 in those terms, but it was right at the centre. But then to go one further and say that if this were happening in any other part of the world, this would be a genocide, is just the most extraordinary, extraordinary radicalisation, and it is dangerous. Now, this is where the dramatic pushback comes from, because of course, there's nothing dangerous about this conversation. And the people who are prepared to have this conversation will end up
Starting point is 00:19:29 receiving the support from the native population. These lads, who I'm about to show you from Rochdale, sum up why Rupert Lowe? And Restore Britain has surged in support as Conservatives lose faith with a wet lettuce Nigel Farage-led Reform UK. Until the next general election, who are you going to vote for? Probably Restore Britain. No, they, he works for them.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Rupert-Lough, I'm going to vote for Newport-Loy. Where's Mac? I get Matt back here. I'm going to vote for Rupert-Loy. Why? Why? Because I just like his policy. What this is? He we voting for, Rupert Law? Reput.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Good boy. Why not reform you can? Why restore and not reform? Because reform, they just lie. Nigel Farad is the biggest lie you're going. Yeah, Trojan horse. Yeah, Trojan horse is the best analogy for him. Hired loads of conservatives.
Starting point is 00:20:26 They're giving away our country at the end of the day, you know what I mean? 100% I don't agree with it. And I think the only person or politician who has got any balls to do something is Rupert Law. Nidua Farage is a wet letter. Wet letters. I would not go for a pipe with that guy. But Rupertelow, I'd have plenty. Why do you trust Rupert Lowe, though?
Starting point is 00:20:46 She's either. Why do you trust Rupert Lowe? I just believe when he says something, he means it, and he gets it done. Yeah, I think he has the best interest for Britain. And you never thought that about Nigel Fras? Yeah, well, I did, and then I got honey dicks. His whole, like, campaign was he'd deport all the illegal immigrants,
Starting point is 00:21:06 and apparently it's impossible. to do. He said it, so why would you vote for someone like that? I think he has. He has... And he's employed loads of Tories that put us in for, for a Tory government for 15 years, we voted Brexit to get out of Europe. We did it the right way. No one ever rioted. No one ever kicked off. And for some reason, nothing's ever come of it. Nothing's happened. So why are you going to vote for someone that's hiring people who fucks us? I understand the frustration. Absolutely. That is how ordinary people feel. Yet there is an MS.
Starting point is 00:21:37 conspiracy to cover up. Cover up Rupert Lowe's growing political revolution. What a fantastic day it is, and I've just been called out of the greenhouse where I've been planting my nascent seeds for the coming season, hopefully plenty of fresh garden vegetables, which have been nurtured by myself, having been propagated in the greenhouse, which I've been busy doing this morning. But the news is momentous. We have gone through 113,000 members, which according to the records we have means that we now eclipse the Tory buddy membership. So I think everybody can feel very proud about the fact that this common sense revolution taking place within Restore Britain is spreading fast. We've got our branches,
Starting point is 00:22:36 now up and running on an increasing scale and we are arming them with the necessary equipment to basically carry out local campaigns on the ground. So we are all systems go and it really is incredibly helpful and reassuring to know that increasingly people throughout the country are supporting what we're doing. So thank you all very much. Have a great weekend and keep going. But have you seen this monumental news on the British Bashing Corporation on Wokey TV, on sly news? Of course not, because there is a conspiracy to ignore restore Britain. Yet as Elon Musk put it, this is the only way to save Britain. There is no other.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And we are a country that needs saving. Slippery Stama has no idea if he's Arthur or Martha, if he's coming or going. And yet again, in the past few moments, Donald Trump has hit out at the British Prime Minister. This from a new press conference watch. I was very surprised with the United Kingdom. Because the United Kingdom, two weeks ago, I said, why don't you send some ships over? And he really didn't want to do it. I said, you don't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:06 We've been with you. You're our oldest ally. And we spend a lot of money on NATO and all of these things to protect you. We're protecting them. We're working with them on Ukraine. Ukraine's thousands of miles away separated by a vast ocean. We don't have to do that, but we did it. Well, Biden did it.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I mean, I have to be honest with it. Biden got taken to the cleaners. But we worked with them in Ukraine. We don't need to work with them in Ukraine. And then they tell us that we have a mine chip around, and they don't want to do it. I think it's terrible. No, I was very surprised. I told him, you know, we requested two aircraft carriers, which they had, and he didn't really want to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And then right after the war essentially ended, you know, meaning they were obliterated. He said, I would like to send the aircraft carriers. I said, I don't need them after the war has ended and won. I needed before the war. So I was very upset with not upset. I was not happy with the UK. I think they'll be involved, yeah, maybe. But they should be involved enthusiastically.
Starting point is 00:25:18 We've been protecting these countries for years with NATO because NATO is us. You can ask Putin. Putin fears us. He doesn't fear. He has no fear of Europe whatsoever. He fears the United States of America and the military that was built by me in the first term. Utterly damning. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Slippery Stama is turning the United Kingdom into a spectator. While at the same time, our country collapses from within. To discuss what's going on now, Dr. Philip Casale, alongside Harmon Singh. Singapore and his wife, Kushi. So great to have you all here. Harmon Singapore, your arrest by the Metropolitan Police came after you said that you were going to defend yourself after these Islamist thugs targeted your Indian restaurant simply because you refused to sell halal meat? I can't hear you properly. I don't know. Your voice is so low. Can you hear me now? I say, hell you, but barely.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Okay, well, tell me what happened, Harmon. Actually, it's happening from a long time. But recently, I was pest off with all this happening with me, this attacks at my restaurants, fake reviews, and no help from the Met Police. And these culprits, this inbreds, they're always attacking me and getting away. So I thought, let me close my restaurant.
Starting point is 00:27:04 and just do what I'm doing is all this activism against the establishment and corrupt Met Police and give my full time to the country because we need to get rid of this corrupt establishment. So me and wife decided, okay, let's close the restaurant and put a little post in media that we are closing it for good because we were being let down by the Bat Police from so long. And that post gone viral. And after that, I keep getting the messages from this community, this peaceful community that, oh, very good. Now you took a war against us. Now your business is getting closed. Now, as soon as your business will close,
Starting point is 00:27:49 we will put big halal sign outside that shop, and we will run that shop. That makes me furious. We already decided, okay, I'm closing my shop. So I put a big sign outside because I'm selling non-halal meat from long. time since I opened my shop. And I always advertise
Starting point is 00:28:06 is a British meat, not Allah. So always these Muslims and Islamists, they were not happy with me and they always come after me to sabotage my business. Then I put big sign outside. Probably I'm not selling halar. And that thing was not accepting that, oh, this is going to be so big
Starting point is 00:28:29 because I was going to close by a restaurant. So I say, let it be closed. it gracefully showing Big Sai non-halan. Sure. But this thing went viral and this peaceful community started attacking me from very next day. Thousands
Starting point is 00:28:45 of phone calls since 6 a.m. to light 2 a.m. Thousands of calls with death threats, rape threats, threat to blow my home, threat to rape my wife and calling themselves a grooming gang telling
Starting point is 00:29:00 we are from grooming gang. We are going to come you're home with 20 guys. First we'll rape your daughter, then your wife, then we make you watch them getting raped. Then we will burn you, then we'll bomb your home. And no one can save you. I got this kind of messages. I recorded all this video calls.
Starting point is 00:29:20 When police came, I didn't call the police because I got no trust in mad police anymore. It's a long time now. Somebody called Mespolite as the best bad police came to my home to take my interview. Initially, I refused that I don't want, I don't have trust in you. Because you guys, as soon as you come here, you're good.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But as soon as you leave my premises, you will not come back to me. Same happen. When police was sitting and taking my interview, phone calls were coming on my phone. And police took the call. And these people were harassing me, threatening me to kill and rape threats. When policemen put the number of that number of that phone on their laptop, they looked at the name and address.
Starting point is 00:30:03 and in panic, they left straight away. It's now a third day they never came back to me telling me who was that guy. So I know, police is corrupt. They know who are threatening me. Who are these people? They are organized people. They are big criminals.
Starting point is 00:30:19 They're not an individual threatening me. But Hamam, they arrested you. But they arrested you. I can't hear you. They arrested you. They arrested me after I got, No, no, I said. When they see who called me, I can't hear you. The police, when they saw who is calling me, they put the search on their laptop, which they bring from the police station.
Starting point is 00:30:46 They put the number of that guy who is calling me, giving me death and rape threats. After that, when they confirmed his identity, they left in panic because they know who that guy was. And that's gone. Next day, I was attacked by around 50 to 100 Somalian outside my restaurant. and some Pakistani guys. I called police. When police came in, they were aggressive towards me. And very happy and jolly when talking to those inbreeds.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I told police, please, I revoke your interest to my restaurant. Please leave because you're not helping me at all. You are taking sights on those criminals as usual. What are you are doing from last three to ten years? So I don't want you to help me. Please leave my premises because my guest life in danger. They're blocking my front door. They are giving me rape threat in front of you.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They're showing very bad signs through their hands, rape threats, wanking signs, things like that. I got out that recorded. But police refused to arrest any of them and they were aggressive towards me. I got aggressive towards police that. I asked them to get lost. And we left home
Starting point is 00:31:54 and we and my family were not able to sleep all night because at that time, I lost complete hope from police that they are going to save me because I might get killed maybe next morning or day after any time I will be killed and police is not there to give me any security.
Starting point is 00:32:13 So I put in purpose in the morning. I lost faith in police who is going to defend my family. I got no other option other than to take arms in my own hand to defend my family and the keeping dagger is my fundamental right in this country
Starting point is 00:32:29 as a sick I can keep. Kipa Kirpan with me for my safety. It's my fundamental right. And I message anybody, anyone, didn't take anybody names. Anyone wants to come near me, threaten my family, I will kill him. Because I mean that.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Because I got nobody else to my family. I was scared. It's my human rights. It's my common law. If somebody comes and arrest, threat to me, threat to kill, threat to rape my family, I need to respond.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So I message, I will kill. anyone who will come near my family because I am scared now. And police is not with me. I posted this video. And within 30 minutes, police arrested me. Within 30 minutes, it's at the court time. As soon as I reached my restaurant, police came up running and they arrested me for posting something
Starting point is 00:33:22 which even those police people were not aware of. They were not aware of what I posted. I asked them, have you seen what I posted? is that's under the law. It's not that I posted something which is provocation. It's under the law. I'm allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:40 But those officers took me into custody were very aggressive and I told them, okay, you're doing something very wrong. This is an illegal arrest. On the way, when I reached the police station, they should have taken me to the Hammersmith station, but they took me to the Charing Cross station
Starting point is 00:33:57 terribly for harassment. When I reached there, one of the police person told me, they got the orders to arrest you. We don't want to arrest you, but we got orders from high up to arrest you. Wow. So I know who, I got intuition who that person can be, who give these instructions to arrest me, because the video I posted that was under the common law to save myself.
Starting point is 00:34:24 police arrested me without taking legal advice from their legal team without looking at the video somebody higher up sitting in the mayor office baby I seen the video they got in panic and they say yeah now we can arrest Mr. Harman Kapoor and his family because he made a mistake
Starting point is 00:34:42 they're waiting for me to make a mistake so they can arrest me they arrested me but they haven't charged me for that because they know that was an illegal arrest and when I reached the person station. Police personnel asked me. I will not take the name who asked me. Are you going to close your restaurant now because you are arrested? So police wanted me to close my restaurant because I'm not selling halal meat. Shame on the police. Wow. That was a deliberate harassment. And,
Starting point is 00:35:11 and, and Haman, do you think this could, yes, I'll just speak up. Do you think this could be political because you are now a member of Restore Britain, Rupert Lowe's party? It's a It is, I think. They are against me from a long time. I just joined the store last month because I love Rupert Lowe because he's a patriot. He don't like maybe many immigrants because what immigrants done to this country, he don't love many immigrants, but fine. He loves his country, he's a patriot, I love him.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I'm a patriot. I am an immigrant. I came to this country. Nobody called me. I came here. I barge him to this country. And he got every right if people are not coming to this country and not behaving well, deport them.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But joining Rupert Law has sent panic alarm to everyone. Everyone in opposition, reform, labor, conservative, green. They were scared that why this brown person is joining Rupert, who is a patriot and he don't want any shit in this country. And I think so. They want me to stand down. This establishment want me and my family to stand down and keep mum, Because if you've seen, none of the mainstream media has taken this story up
Starting point is 00:36:28 that brown man is being arrested for not selling halal meat. None of them. It's all international news channels all over the world took this news and posted it. But none of the mainstream media because I don't fit in the narrative because my face is brown. If it was a white person has said that I'm not selling halal, then they have shown it that this man is a racist. He's against Muslims. It's Islam, it's Islamophobia.
Starting point is 00:36:58 But it's me. It's a brown face. He's who is one of those immigrants. He's against other immigrants. That doesn't fit the narrative of this government and this mainstream media. They target of religion. And police target by religion.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Dagger is my fundamental right. Under law from 2010, it's law that any sick living in UK can carry a dagger. as a personal belongings in public because it's their faith. It's my belief. Knowing that, it's my belief,
Starting point is 00:37:32 police arrested me. They targeted my faith. I'm not fighting. I'm not going on social media and fighting that like other Muslims. Somebody targeted our faith and we'll go on streets and we will do a holy war against police. No, I'm not calling for that.
Starting point is 00:37:48 But I am peaceful, man. I got family. I want to live normal life. I don't want all this hazard every day. 20, 100 people coming outside my restaurant, blocking it, giving me rape threats, death threats, pettling eggs, attacking me with beer bottles, chairs. It's every day.
Starting point is 00:38:07 It's happening every now. But they don't understand. They can break my bones. They can beat me, but they cannot break my will. I will keep fighting what's wrong. Because this country, Britain, gave me a lot. I took refuge in this country 30 years ago. I ran up from Afghanistan from these same people.
Starting point is 00:38:29 These same people now followed me in Britain. I don't want to run again. I want to fight those people. I want to save my family. Good on you. Thank you so much for telling your story. That is Harman Singapore and Kushi Singapore. Thank you both so much.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Philip Kassali has been listening to that astonishing interview. wow, this is what happens when you don't sell halal meat in London. This is astonishing. Just extraordinary, Dan. I was just listening to that. And I had a combination of rage. And I'm actually upset by it. You know, God.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Death threats, rape threats, gang rape threats. This is what people have to put up with in this country. This is where we are. And the real problem here, I mean, first of all, that idiot who was mugging at the camera, has he been arrested? I bet he hasn't, right? I bet he's got away with it, Scott Free. This is just intimidation.
Starting point is 00:39:33 You look at all of their behaviour. You look at what they're doing. You look at how they talk. And they think they've won, right? But the problem is the police are so terrified of them. Our politicians are so terrified of them. our chattering middle classes are so in awe of them of these people, doing this kind of thing, that we are in such an incredible mess.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Let's just broaden it out a little bit down. I think we've got three main problems here. The first one, quite obviously, is mass immigration, as you were talking about before. All you have to do is look at the censorship stats for London over the last 50 years. There is a replacement going, I'm sorry, but there is. It's as simple as that, you know. there are, you know, white British people are a minority in their own capital city. In any other country, that would be world news. Okay. That's the first thing. From mass immigration, we have
Starting point is 00:40:27 Islamism, the real problem of Islamism, which we are seeing there. And when we say this is a culture war, it is, as you said at the beginning of the top of this show, you said it's culture. It's about culture. Yes, it is. But the word war is massively important. What you saw there is guerrilla warfare. What you saw there is sectarian warfare. And what they're doing is importing these terrifying tactics to this country from the places like Middle East, Pakistan, Africa and so on and so forth. We never used to have this in this country, Dan. We never used to have gang rapes and mutilation. We never used to have acid attacks. We never used to have gangs of people marauding and pounding people like this poor man and his family.
Starting point is 00:41:13 out of their business. He shouldn't have to be standing up and saying he'll do anything to survive. This is ridiculous. We are supposed to live in a civilized country. So we've got mass immigration, we've got Islamism, but facilitating all of it, we've got identity politics, we've got the woke middle classes, we've got the woke police force. Well, I say force. That's a laugh, isn't it? They're not a force. They're a service. And they only seem to be serving the people who are most violent, who are most intimidating, and who want to make life hell for the rest of us. I'm sorry for the rant, but just seeing all of that footage there
Starting point is 00:41:54 and listening to what that poor man was saying and looking at his wife and thinking about his daughter, I'm just horrified that we're in this situation, Dan, and I just worry it's too late. Yeah, I worry it's too late as well. I really, really do. Sometimes I think it is, but we have to keep fighting, and that's why I think the story from Hadeep Singapore is so important.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's terrifying that our next prime minister could be a man who used to make money through convincing women that his sick brand of hypnotism could increase their breast size. Now, you know that's why I call it. Zach Polanski, not his real name, by the way, real name's Dave, the tit whisperer. And because this guy is such a dangerous force on British politics, I think we have to keep leaning in to the fact that he is such a joke that that's what his previous career was all about. And you know, for some time, Zach Polanski has been trying to lie and say, oh, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:43:09 It was just a hit piece by the Sun newspaper. Remember at the time, Zach Polansky wasn't a political figure. This was in 2013. He was a member of the Liberal Democrats then. And the son, where I was at that time, the executive editor, was simply attempting to expose a very dodgy consumer practice, that this gay man was lying to women, taking their money and saying that he could increase their cup sign.
Starting point is 00:43:39 the size of their boobs without an operation. And since then, Polansky has been on a series of interviews, most recently on Good Morning Britain, with Susanna Reid, where he just simply denies that this was the case. He says he never did it. Well, as Graham Linnahannes put it,
Starting point is 00:44:02 he's just been busted. Because today, I am going to reveal a regional radio interview from Humberside at the time when Zach Polansky admitted that he did try and increase a women's breast size through hypnotism and he believed that it was possible. Zach Polansky has been lying to you about this.
Starting point is 00:44:30 These are the damning 28 seconds. Listen carefully. This week where a client came to see me who was a journalist and we had a successful, successful project. She says that she grew four inches. It didn't change her cup size. She stayed the same cup size, but she said it was a tighter fit for starting to become anecdotal evidence,
Starting point is 00:44:48 at least, of a growth in breast size. So they actually grew? Yep, at the moment, I'm not charging people for breast enhancement. That's just a... Well, I'm pleased to hear that. Do you believe it can happen or not? I believe that it can happen in theory,
Starting point is 00:45:02 and I think it's definitely... So he did believe it! There he was on B-Beeble. BBC Radio Humberside in 2013 saying that his hypnotism increased a woman's breast size by four inches. The guy is a liar. He's terrifying, actually. He is dangerous because this is what he says now. Listen. Do you still believe that women's breasts can be enlarged through hypnotherapy? I've never believed that. That doesn't represent my work or anything. I've ever done and you shouldn't believe what you read in the sun.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Right. So you didn't charge 22 pounds for a 90-minute session where you got women to visualize themselves with bigger breasts. No, I absolutely have never charged for that. As I say, you don't read what you've... You have held to those sessions in which you have asked women to visualize themselves with bigger breasts through hypnotherapy in order to see them enlarged. As I've said, none of that represents my work and I wouldn't believe what you read in the sun. How many women did you have come to you to see whether you could get them through hypnotherapy to have their breasts enlarged? Absolutely none.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And so that is not a service. Well, that was something that the son wrote about. But as I said, I think most of your listeners will know the sun come up with wild and wonderful stories all the time. So what have you apologised for if the son have made it up? I apologize immediately the day after the article 11 years ago to say that doesn't represent my work and that I don't stand by that article. I apologize because I recognize that that would be offensive to people.
Starting point is 00:46:36 but again does not represent my work and does not represent me. So you did, though, have women come through your door, doing hypnotherapy on them to see if they could enlarge their breasts? Well, you asked me a different question. You asked me if I ever charged for that? No, I didn't. Well, the other question I asked was, how many women did you see doing, trying this particular form of hypnotherapy? That, other than that article, which was not representative of my work,
Starting point is 00:47:00 is something that I never have and never would do. Liar! You are a liar! I'm just going to prove it. Here is the BBC Radio Humberside interview. It's a glimmer sun last week where a client came to see me who was a journalist. And we had a successful project. She says that she grew four inches. It didn't change her cup size.
Starting point is 00:47:21 She stayed the same cup size, but she said it was a tighter fit. They're starting to become anecdotal evidence, at least, of a growth in breast size. So they actually grew? Yep, at the moment, I'm not charging people for breast enhancement. That's just a... Well, I'm pleased to hear that. Do you believe it can happen or not? I believe that it can happen in theory and I think it's...
Starting point is 00:47:40 So there's the proof, Dr Philip Gassali, that Zach Polanski did believe it and he said he believed it. Now, why does this matter? Because I genuinely believe this guy could become British Prime Minister. We have to expose the fact that he is a fraud. He's a fraud on so many levels because he's also a Jewish gay man who is in a sick sort of coalition with hard left Islamists
Starting point is 00:48:08 to secure power as well. Yeah, I mean, I can't believe. We're even talking about this, Dan. But if you take your mind back to when you were at the son, when was it, 2013, and if you would have come across
Starting point is 00:48:24 this idiot, this charlatan and someone would have said to you, oh, in 10, 12 years' time, he's going to be a real major player in British politics. You would have said they were a liar. You wouldn't have believed it for one minute. This is how stupid we've become.
Starting point is 00:48:40 This is how silly and frivolous we've become. But you're absolutely right to say that it's dangerous because it is dangerous. This is a man who is in bed with the most insane extremist. The Green Party, it was interesting, wasn't it, when Hannah Spencer, that, you know, understudy for Rod Jane and Freddie, she looks like, you know, when, Hannah Spencer became an MP and she made that ridiculous speech, maiden speech in Parliament, which was just full of lies and ludicrous silliness. You know, I'm from Manchester. I'm from there. We don't all walk past and nod and go like that to Emmeline Pankhurst. We don't say, oh, we look after
Starting point is 00:49:24 ourselves. This is silly. This is silly middle class nonsense mythologising the working class that they know nothing about. She lives in hail. That's a very, very posh place full of football players. But this guy, this guy, Polansky or Dave Polden, I like to call him, because that's his real name, is an absolute charlatan. He's tried many, many things from tit whispering to being a rebel rouser in the, in the, in the social, Lib Dems, and now he's latched onto the Greens. But he is an idiot because they are obviously run. This is an Islamo-extremist. Islam and fascist party now. As I say, in Hannah Spencer's maiden speech, she never once mentioned the environment. She mentioned women ridiculously, but then they've got Mothin Ali, whose wife is
Starting point is 00:50:18 burkered up from head to toe all the time. So this is nonsense, but my fear is people are turning to this party because we are in chaos. Now, the Conservatives and Labour are dead. It's young people in particular. Eric Kaufman, the academic Eric Kaufman, has just done some research on this. And he kind of notes that they really tap into this ridiculous, naive, progressive mindset that instilled in them at school. It's developed at university, which are indoctrination centers. And then they start following people like this. And these are people who are trans or identify as trans. they're gay they say that they're progressive this party is anything but progressive this is the nearest thing we have to fascism this is the nearest thing in their in their anti-semitism that we have to the
Starting point is 00:51:17 national front they are really really frightening now they won in gorton through a combination of clan voting and family voting the latter is illegal if the the the the the the the stats play out and there was a there was a poll just a couple of days after and people and people vote in the same way that they did there and there's all sorts of postal voting and rigging and God knows what happening it would they might they might just get 157 seats they might get more and it isn't an exaggeration as you say that they might actually end he might actually end up being prime minister that would be a terrifying prospect our country is stupid it feels like we've gone berserk, we've gone mental, and it feels like we really need to think about how, very, very
Starting point is 00:52:11 seriously, how we're going to take on this stuff, because it isn't enough just to laugh at it now. If you just take Manchester as one example, there she is. If you take Manchester as one example, it's not just going to be Gorton and Denton, okay, it's going to be Rochdale. I'm talking about Greater Manchester. It's going to be Rochdale. It's going to be Oldham. It's going to be Bolton. Because demographically, Muslims who clan vote will vote together and they will take those places. So it isn't just individual towns, it's great swathes of our major cities. Now, one of the other major problems we've got is that other people aren't coming out to vote. I think 47% of people didn't vote in Gorton and Denton.
Starting point is 00:52:56 People feel so disenfranchised, they feel so frustrated that they are not voting. and that is possibly the worst thing we can do because through malaise and just not bothering, these people will get into power. There will be a red-green alliance, so we have to take it very seriously and we have to know what to do about it. Breaking right now,
Starting point is 00:53:21 trigonometry host, Constantine Kissen, just escaped what could have been another sick political assassination attempt by the Be Kind Left. During a debate on Donald Trump, immigration and wokeism with the political commentator Destiny, a deranged leftist was lurking in the audience, locking eyes with Constantine. This freak has now revealed on a stream that he wanted to and considered running up to Constantine with a box cutter to slash his jugular. Now, Warren Smith, the founder of secret scholars on YouTube, has brought to light this shocking revelation.
Starting point is 00:54:06 He posted, this is how close Constantine Kissin came to being assassinated during his debate with destiny. It looks like this guy has now nuked his channel. But luckily, the disturbing clip still does exist. Watch this. from the Charlie Kirk killing. This guy was sitting mere feet away from Constantine Kissen during his debate with destiny. When you hear what he has to say, it is scary to think how this could have gone.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I was like fucking locked onto his eyes and he kept glancing down at me and then like breaking eye contact. Because I fucking hate the guy. I was just like, I wanted to kill him. I stumbled upon this stream when I was just trying to research and understand the opposing view.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And I was shocked by some of the things this guy was saying. Keep in mind, This guy was sitting in Constantine's eyeline. And I think he got distracted by that and didn't pay attention to a single thing. What do you think that? Yes, it is just talk, but there is something more disturbing
Starting point is 00:55:06 beneath the surface here. He's openly talking about wanting to assassinate Constantine. This could have gone very differently. He even has a box cutter or exact of a knife. Josh should have done. Stanley Blades just fucking sprinted up onto the same. stage slash Constantine in their fucking jugular
Starting point is 00:55:27 But he wants to kill him You can see the chat They're all thinking the same thing It seems no one seems to be bothered by this Because it has become so commonplace He knows he can do this YouTube's not going to do anything Done, sort of prison forever
Starting point is 00:55:41 On the one hand Prison forever on the one hand And then I should have gone Then I should have gone Woke Jihad Woke Jihad woke jihad I should
Starting point is 00:55:55 No I shouldn't have gone For the white race or something I don't know You could say Oh okay Well he just worded that poorly It's just an expression But he takes this much farther
Starting point is 00:56:03 Then he gets into Based on what happened to Charlie Kirk This is what I have learned When it comes to how to kill conservatives Absolutely The Left so clearly Want Us dead Now following growing concerns
Starting point is 00:56:16 After that revelation Constantine posted On X Thank you everyone for the messages. Please don't worry. I have excellent security. I will continue to speak my mind, encourage civil debate and argue for a sensible, pragmatic, reasonable approach to politics. And he then posted this quote, beneath this mask, there is more than flesh, there is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof. And of course they are, but we are dealing with
Starting point is 00:56:45 nutters. There was more watch. my genuine psychopath thought that I've learned from the Charlie Kirk killing is if you are going to assassinate a political target, then try to reduce the gore as much as possible so people can't sympathize with the bastard who's getting it. So you'd have to go up with like a cape and like cover him in a cape and do it cleanly under there, you know, like a, like an abattoir. So he's literally openly talking about assassinating political targets here. So the question is, well, why? That's what I wanted to understand.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's why I take the time to even look at these streams. It's all like dog whistling, we need to secure a future for the white people. He makes it very clear. His belief is Constantine is a racist. Dr. Philip Casalee, senior fellow at the New Culture Forum, it really does feel like these leftists won't stop until we are all dead. And where is the outrage about this? Where is the police action about this?
Starting point is 00:57:57 Oh, those police officers in the UK are too busy, turning up at Manchester Airport with six cops to arrest some hapless white dude off a plane for making a bad joke on Facebook? Yeah, it's a really good comparison, Dan. And it just really does send a cold shiver down your spine listening to that stuff, especially those of us who, you know, I do this all the time. I'm on channels all over the place all week. I talk live.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I travel up and down the country speaking. So I look at that and I've had death threats as well. I've had all sorts of threats through social media and inboxes. So I look at that. And this kind of stuff will happen, mainly because these people have nothing in their lives. I was looking at that guy and one word that just kept coming into my mind all the time was inadequate. You know, I would bet any money that he probably doesn't have a job and has no responsibility and is probably quite jealous of Constantine, who's one of the, you know, the biggest independent
Starting point is 00:59:01 journalists in this country and he's an incredibly eloquent man. So I think there's quite a lot going on there. But there's also this legitimization of violence. towards, I suppose, people like you and me and Constantine and the people who we know and work with. Because we are not just wrong. We are evil. Our ideas are reprehensible. But listening to the full piece there of the guy doing a really good commentary on it, actually. It was interesting because the guy who was just spouting all that psychosis was completely, completely confused. He didn't know really what he was talking about. He was talking about racism and then he was being racist himself
Starting point is 00:59:48 and then he was pivoting back. So I think there's something here about these very, very lost young men who don't have any kind of function in life or don't have any role in life, it feels like. It feels as though, you know, part of what was going on there. There was a sense that he was looking for, you know, he wanted to be famous, he wanted to be infamous, he wanted all of those things that these shooters go for. And when you are in a bubble, he was talking about the comments there,
Starting point is 01:00:23 it's very easy to remove yourself from reality and think that this kind of stuff is okay. It's extremely concerning. It's really, really worrying. And I look at these people. And I think, you know, you just walk past them every day. So who's it going to be? Is someone going to attack me? I'm getting to that stage now. And that, I suppose, is because what we've just seen before. We saw, you know, the poor guy's restaurant was being attacked by people who were just violent, open intimidation and violence. And it feels as though, again, the key theme here is that the police won't go for certain people. It feels like certain people are okay as targets and that's just fine.
Starting point is 01:01:04 But the police will not go for them. I'm sure the police haven't been around to his house because it wasn't a joke and it wasn't on face. book. Indeed. And what's so interesting, Philip, is you talk about this group on the left, yet the obsession in the mainstream media. And we've seen it actually over the past few days with the launch of this Louis Theroux documentary on Netflix is all about people on the right who they describe as being in the manosphere and want to take the piss out of. But actually, it's the, these lefties who are going out and committing the violence. I mean, look at all of the trans shooters in America, for example.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah, I was just going to say the trans thing. So there's a particular kind of male that we really need to be concerned about and we really need to watch. And I say the word that really describes them is inadequate. They are living in little bubble worlds that really have nothing to do with reality. And they want to hit out. They want to impose themselves because they can't impose themselves in real life. And they seem to be all of a particular type.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And we've encouraged this as a society, haven't we? Over the last 10 or 15 years, we don't respect facts and biological reality anymore. It's, you know, the reality is what you feel and what you think you are that particular day. So it isn't a great big conceptual leap to then when people are living in a. an online world for them to be, okay, well, I can do this because it's part of my performative persona. And he was performing in that piece of, in that piece of film there. You could see it was performative. He had a knife and he was going, he was living out his fantasies. And he was living out his fantasies for a particular audience who were responding to it in the comments. So
Starting point is 01:03:04 it isn't just one person. It used to be, oh God, there's a, every now and again, there's going to be one nutter out there. It is a community of people. And this is because they don't live in the real world. They really have nothing to live for. They don't have any responsibilities. They've probably had it a little bit too easy in their lives. He looked very middle class to me.
Starting point is 01:03:25 And they're very confused as well. That is the thing that really, really comes across. They're very confused. And my God, they're very dangerous. Now it's time for the clash. Is Harry Stiles wrong to pretend to be gay. I say absolutely, but I'll be debating this today with commentator Amy Ansel and senior fellow at the New Culture Forum, Philip Casale. I've known Harry Stiles for years and years and
Starting point is 01:04:06 years and yep, there have been rumours for a long time, mainly spread by him, that he may have had a sexual interaction with a man. But he's ever just coming. out and said it. In fact, have you noticed that the only people he actually ends up in relationships with are very famous women, who he shags and openly boasts about loving? Yet when he has an album to sell, all of a sudden it's called to make some type of public appearance where he hints at the fact that he might be gay, where he kisses a man performatively on screen. And most recently he did this hosting Saturday Night Live in America. In his opening monologue, Harry poked fun at himself for enjoying a boring offstage life.
Starting point is 01:05:02 He said, you know what, as a British man who has spent a lot of his life in the public eye, I can assure you, there is something nice about being boring. It's better than the alternative. And then up flashed an image of Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, in his car after being arrested. last month. Harry went on, I took up jogging. There's nothing interesting about that. But because I am me, people pretend to find that interesting, but I don't run to be interesting. I do it for the feeling it gives me. Referencing his 2019 hit watermelon sugar, he joked runners high, watermelon sugar high, and if that doesn't do it for you, I also love ecstasy. Harry, who is dating
Starting point is 01:05:43 actress. Yeah, a woman, again, Zoe Cravers. also address claims that he played up to his speculation about sexuality. He said on the show, some people accused me of something called queer baiting. But did it ever occur to you that maybe you don't know everything about me, dad? Moments later, he kissed comedian Ben Marshall, then looked at the camera and said with a wink, now that's queer baiting.
Starting point is 01:06:13 But as Buzzing Pop put it, he either puts on a dress or acts gay when his album is not selling. And I have to say, I am completely sick of this performative nonsense with your sexuality, Harry. I've known you for years. If you're gay or if you think you're bisexual, just come out and say it. Or say you've had a relationship with a man. Say that you were secretly in love with your former bandmate Louis Tomlinson or actually date a man. But as a gay man, otherwise, can I just tell you to shut up? Shut up and sing because I'm sick of you using a sexuality to sell records
Starting point is 01:07:01 and actually undermining what it means to really be gay. Something that, by the way, I don't talk about much because it's irrelevant. Let's clash on this now with Dr. Philip Cazelli and Amy Ansel. Amy, great to have you on Outspoken, but I know you think I'm wrong here. Why is Harry Stiles doing this? Well, Dan, you know, I respect you, but I don't agree with you because, look, I think that Harry Stiles has every right to not admit what he is. It's none of our business, to be perfectly frank.
Starting point is 01:07:36 He could be gay. He could be bi. It doesn't matter. He's the one talking. I don't care. I just shut up about it, man. He's never come out with it per se. If he had, then we wouldn't be talking about it right now.
Starting point is 01:07:50 But the fact that we're always speculating, based on what we're seeing, whether we're seeing a photo like that, whether he's kissing a man. You know, we're the ones that are guessing. We're the ones that are curious. And I think it's all quite strategic, to be honest. I think it's keeping him very relevant. It keeps us guessing.
Starting point is 01:08:08 You know, think about David Bowie. the 1970s. You know, first he was gay, then he was by, then he was gender fluid, then he was, then he was married twice. I mean, he is today's David Bowie, in my opinion. And listen, he's 32 now, right? He's been in the public eye for 16 years and we've had tremendous interest in him the entire time. He's won awards. He's written huge, huge hits. Yeah, but that's not the point. That's not the point. He keeps on pretending to be gay. He's not gay. He's not gay. He's never slept with the man. So just don't do it. If I kept going around saying I'm black, people would be pretty angry about that, I imagine. Why is it any different? Is he actually
Starting point is 01:08:51 saying he's gay anywhere? Well, he's wanting us to think it, isn't he? How? Did you not just see what he said on Saturday Night Live? Well, he's poking fun at what he's hearing from the public and from the media. He's throwing it right back at you and winking at the same time. Yeah, Because Dr. Philip Casale, he is being criticized for doing this thing. I mean, I don't really care at some type of woke term, isn't it? But he is being criticized for this thing called queer baiting. Yeah, it just, it's bizarre to me that people are talking about it and really getting that upset about it. I agree with you, Dan, actually, in the sense that, you know, if he is gay, then he should just come out as gay.
Starting point is 01:09:36 If he's not gay, then he should find some other. strategies to sell his albums, you know, and this is what they all do. But it really isn't, it's no big deal anymore. You know, I'm thinking about Frankie goes to Hollywood in 1984. It was a big deal then. I'm thinking about, you know, really big deals like three of the Rolling Stones being put in prison at the same time for drugs in 1967. I'm thinking about the sex pistols in 1977. I'm even thinking about Oasis in 1995. They really did shake things off and change things and they really did change the, change the rules. I wouldn't think that, or I'd hate to think, it's a really bad reflection on our times that Harry Stiles is a
Starting point is 01:10:21 modern day David Bowie, because I would imagine not many people could actually, you know, how many of his songs. But I think he should just stop it, get on and try and make better music, actually. Focus on the music rather than the gimmicks. And he's shaking her head. What do you disagree with? Basically, I just think he has a gender fluid style. Look, look how he dresses. What's that? Part of his brand, us guessing, us wondering, is he gay?
Starting point is 01:10:50 Is he straight? Is he just flamboyant? It's part of his style. We love it. I just saw online that he was voted GQ's most stylish man of the year. He was the first man, the solo man on the cover of Vogue in a dress. So we're talking about him and it's part of who he is. It's part of his brand.
Starting point is 01:11:12 It's part of his success story. And we're just going to always want to continue to know until he decides to announce what he is sexually. But it's none of our business. I think we're all enjoying the ride. We're talking about it, aren't we? So it's part of the business. He's an entertainment and we're being entertained by it. Well, no, I don't find it entertaining at all, actually.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Philip, I find it offenses. and I'm not someone who's easily offended, right? I'm not trying to cancel him, but I do think now is the time to put up or shut up. Because look, I used to cover One Direction. So I actually went around the world with One Direction. And they were great guys. But Harry definitely always believed that he was sort of bigger than the band,
Starting point is 01:12:00 that he was above the band. And certainly there were a lot of rumours about, you know, had something gone on between him and Louis Thomas, in which they both always denied. And I just think that now is the time to put up or shut up. Like there's nothing embarrassing about it. But what I find frustrating, Dr. Philip, is the constant need to hint at it, to do the wink, wink, nudge, nudge thing, because then he is suggesting that there is something shameful about it in a way, because it's totally fine to be open my female partners,
Starting point is 01:12:39 you know, Taylor Swift and Zoe Kravitz, whoever they happen to be. But my relationships with men are all about sex and they're clandestine and they've got to stay under wraps. Now, if that's not the case, Philip, then I think he's just lying. Yeah, I think he is. And I think, as I said before, we just need a better gimmick. And I think you nailed it before, Dan, when you said,
Starting point is 01:13:02 if, you know, if we came out, if I came on this show now in blackface and said, oh, I might be black underneath here, you know what I mean? Or I pretended to be trans. People would be absolutely up in arms, right? And it almost feels as though there's, there's one rule for heterosexual people and now gays and another rule for everybody else, okay, because everybody else is oppressed and they're obviously not. And just getting back to his style here. I mean, you know, he used to dress like his nan, I suppose, because he was, he was again trying to kind of jump on the trans bandwagon at the time. And now he's just wearing an ill-fitting suit.
Starting point is 01:13:43 This, there is no such thing as gender fluidity. Let's just have that straight out there. Exactly. It's called dressing in women's clothes. Yeah. Which is fine. Brian Jones. Brian Jones was doing this in, in 1963, okay?
Starting point is 01:13:59 We had the glam rock movement in the early sense. Sweet, they were all doing that. They all dressed like women. The New York Dolls, Johnny Thunders and the Heart Breaks, all of these great pop culture icons. They played with this kind of stuff. It really didn't mean they were gender fluid because they weren't. And he isn't gender fluid.
Starting point is 01:14:19 He's just messing around with clothes, doing it badly. I mean, that suit, I know a little bit about men's style. That suit. Oh, dear. God help us. Well, there's something going on at the moment. And what it is is straight men pretending to be gay for clout. And actually, we saw it at the Oscars last night. There were these two actors who were in the TV show Heated Rivalry.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Have you heard about the show, Amy? And basically, they play gay sportsmen in the show. And again, they haven't actually in real life come out and just said, oh, we're gay. so they turn up to the Oscars dressed and sort of share clothing. But again, for me, I'm just like, well, say it. You know, if there's no shame around it, if there's nothing to be embarrassed about,
Starting point is 01:15:12 which obviously I don't think there is, as I say, I'm a gay man, but it's such a tiny part of my identity. Why do you have to be obsessed about it? And what I actually see happening at the moment is straight men on the left in the entertainment industry, who want attention and so as a result are pretending to be gay. Not only is that a little bit offensive, I mean, I'm not someone who's easily offended, whatever,
Starting point is 01:15:37 but I just find it more embarrassing and pathetic. Yeah, I totally agree. And I think, again, it's just this thing. If it was any other group, I'm thinking about trans, the RuPaul Drag Race thing, you know, all of a sudden women started feeling really, really uncomfortable, with that because it was really misogynistic. And I was working in education at the time.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And my students, a girl, a student wrote a brilliant dissertation about it. And she was saying, if it was the other way around, people would be up in arms about it. And this is the same thing. It's almost the two tier in culture, isn't that? You know, and it's some people can do absolutely anything and other people can't. And there is something really, yeah, a little bit uncomfortable about seeing in playing being gay for very, very venal and, you know, commercial reasons. I think, you know, if it's one rule for one, it's got to be one rule for all, or you just get rid of the whole thing
Starting point is 01:16:42 completely, in which case there would be uproar from the left. It's always the same thing. We're always at the mercy of the incomprehensible whims of the left. I think this today, so therefore, these are the rules. And if you don't play by the rules, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, you down. The minute you push back on that slightly, then they just go into a, into a tailspin about it. Amy? I think, you know, look, I said earlier, he's simply pushing the boundaries because when he first came onto the scene, he was seen as straight. And then because of all the rumors and the speculation of him being gay, that's where the wink, wink, nudge, all came about and the playing with the audience and kissing men to sort of play with the public, because they,
Starting point is 01:17:29 Listen, he has every right to keep his sexual preference secret and personal. So like I said, he has every right to push the boundaries and play around with it because he's being constantly accused of being gay and not coming out with it like you're doing now. So I think that he has every right to keep his sexual preference, secrets, private, and act as he wants, whether it's wearing a dress or wink, wink, nudge, kissing a guy on SNL. You know, he has, it's a personal preference. It's a personal decision. And also keep in mind that he has a massive team around him. Anything he does, whether it's the way he dresses, what he says, what he does publicly is going to have ramifications. And his whole team has to deal with it as well. So like I said, it's entertainment. It's his brand. And he has every right to act the way he does whether I'm sorry you feel that way, Dan, but I disagree with you. Well, you know I love you. Amy Ansel, who is of course the CEO of Hollywood Browser Beauty, the award-winning derma-planning tools. So brilliant to have you on outspoken. And Dr. Philip Caselli, who is the senior fellow at the New Culture Forum.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Both brilliant today. Harry Stiles, by the way, is nominated for our union jackass. So we'll find out how he goes there in just one. moment. But first, to your feedback, lots of it coming through today because it's so great to be back with you. Mandy Kumar says, Yasmin Alibaya Brown has not got her facts right. This was in regards to her appearance on Channel 5. There are no Tommy Robinson marches every week. Tim OGB says, I can understand not wanting to commit to war in Iran, but we should at least be involved in protecting the shipping lanes and our own bases in the region we will suffer if we don't. Earl Dumarest says,
Starting point is 01:19:31 this is in regards to Hadip Singh Kumar, said Corsi stood up to the mob and he was arrested. Shame on the police. Kath listened and said, I love Haman and his beautiful wife. He's a legend. And Juliet Johnson said that Sikh Haman is more British to me than James O'Brien. Okay, a reminder of your Union Jackass nominees today. Harry Stiles for queer baiting Jonathan Liu of The Guardian for thinking opening a bakery with an Israeli connection as an act of aggression towards Palestine and Ed Davy who says the greatest danger to Britain comes from within from a dark form of politics that wraps itself in the Union Jack. Dr. Philip Casale said he just hates us and there is a very clear winner today. With 9% of the vote, Jonathan Liu, the runner up with 20% of the vote,
Starting point is 01:20:30 Harry Stiles. But today's Union Jackass, the worst Britain in the world today with 71% of the vote. It is Ed Davy, the leader of the Liberal Democrats. And Philip Casale has nominated Princess Catherine, the Princess of Wales, as today's greatest Britain. And he says, on the back of Mother's Day, I would like to celebrate the current Princess of Wales. She represents hope. or the monarchy. Now, we're moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled After Show as we team up with the Royal News Network to reel the truth about Prince Harry and Megan Markle's public war with the author Tom Bauer, who they have branded deranged for daring to tell the truth about the strains in
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Starting point is 01:21:53 am sympathetic to that. But what I simply do not understand is why the hell can America and the United Kingdom not change our clocks at the same time? Like seriously? But anyway, we're back 5pm, UK time, 1pm Eastern, 10 a.m. Pacific. Remember to hit subscribe right now on YouTube. If you turn on the notification value, we'll be alerted to our new episodes. And most importantly, I promise, to keep fighting for you.

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