Dan Wootton Outspoken - JAMES O'BRIEN, KAY BURLEY, PAUL BRAND & CAROL VORDERMAN SHAMED BY STARMER & ALLI SLEAZE

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Labour’s sleaze scandal gets darker by the day, but so too does the cover-up by the mainstream media. As Lord Alli’s deeply disturbing relationship with Two Tier Keir Starmer and a host of other new Cabinet ministers is finally revealed, the MSM figures who brought down Boris Johnson over a piece of cake are conspicuous in their silence. In his Digest, Dan calls out James O’Brien and Carol Vorderman of the Labour Broadcasting Company (LBC), Sly News’ Kay Burley, Woke ITV’s Paul Brand, and celebrities like Gary Neville. He also reveals how the coverage of DonorGate proves the British media is captured and corrupt. This his Superstar Panel – UKIP’s honorary president Neil Hamilton and Reform UK’s Maria Bartwell – weigh in. PLUS: Boris Johnson speaks out as he reveals he tried to stop Megxit in his bombshell autobiography AND: Nicola Bulley’s husband reveals his outrage over slurs To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, English muffin sandwiches, value iced coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's Taxes Extra. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live episode number 61. No spin, no bias and no censorship. But before anything today, rest in peace, Dame Maggie Smith. From Sister Act to Downton Abbey, that absolute legend was responsible for some of my favourite moments on the silver screen and the TV screen too. Downton Abbey, wow, it will not be the same without her. I hate losing the greats. But breaking right now, Labour's sleaze scandal gets darker by the day with Lord Ali's close relationship with Assad just revealed by Guido Forks. But so too does the cover-up by the mainstream media. The MSM figures who brought

down Boris Johnson over a piece of cake are conspicuous in their silence about two-tier Keir Starmer's sleaze. Kay Burley of Sly News. Silence, quite literally. Not the backdrop the Prime Minister wants to his first conference in government. Oh, what's in there? Man of the people. So in my digest, I'm going to call her out. I'm going to call out James O'Brien and Carol Vorderman and Ben Kentish of the Labour Broadcasting Company, otherwise known as LBC.

I'm going to call out ITV's, woke ITV's Paul Brand and actually the non-newsagent celebrities like Gary Neville. Because the coverage of Donagate proves that the British media is captured and corrupt. Then my superstar panel, UKIP's honorary president Neil Hamilton and Reform UK's Maria Bartwell weigh in. Also coming up today, Boris Johnson speaks out as he reveals he tried to stop Meg Sitt what Meg said in his bombshell autobiography. Read Unleashed and you will discover how and why I learned to keep my old friend Michael Gove firmly in the wing mirror.

And Nicola Bulli's partner goes public to reveal his outrage over slurs. When you experience something like this, you realize what a huge monster it can be, I guess. Then in the uncancelled after show, Prince Harry embarrasses himself in New York with a juvenile TV appearance on late night US TV. I'll show you and we'll have top stateside analysis from the Royal News Network. You can register to watch on our own website right now, www.outspoken.live.

You know it's a safe space, free of censorship, and your support at just £5 a month gives you that 30 minutes of extra content after the main show every single weekday. Most importantly, it continues to allow me to make Outspoken. Let's go. I will never forget Kay Burley's reaction on Sly News when their exit poll on the night of July 4th, less than three months ago, believe it or not, showed a Labour landslide. The left-wing broadcaster was finally exposed as a Labour fangirl and activist, not the non-biased broadcaster she has tried to present herself as. Oh, my God.

Yeah, you can see from his face in just a second, you can see how Andy has reacted. Brilliant. A Labour landslide. But this week, Kay Burley has been silenced on Sly News for very different reasons. Not the backdrop the Prime Minister wants to his first conference in government. What's her name? Man of the People.

And it's not a surprise. She's got nothing to say, is it? Her hero, Zipri Stama, has been exposed for being a crooked and corrupt champagne socialist, far worse than any Tory, in just a few short weeks. But disgustingly, we've had radio silence from the Boris witch hunters. Remember those so-called journalists who claimed that they were campaigning against cronyism? You know who I mean. Ben Kentish, James O'Brien and Carol Vorderman of the Labour Broadcasting Company, otherwise known as LBC, Wokai TV's Paul Brand and celebrities like the news agent frauds. Instead, as a flurry of revelations about Starmer's dishonest use of Lord Ali's luxury penthouse are unleashed, it's been Guido Fawkes leading the charge as the MSM goes silence.

And breaking right now, the biggest bombshell yet. Guido reports, every Labour-briefed media profile of Waheed ali spins that he is basically a harmless pile of money committed to one aim a labor victory stammer has repeatedly said lord ali got nothing in return for his support but this is according to gigo guido the most cursory check of ali's parliamentary record reveals that he has strident and marginal views on one of the most controversial foreign policy issues of the last few years, Syria. He said in a House of Lords debate, this is according to Guido, I have visited Syria on a number of occasions and held talks with President Assad on several. Ali made the comments at the height of the Syrian civil war. And as Guido asks, what was Ali doing meeting with bloodthirsty dictator Bashar

al-Assad on multiple occasions? In what capacity did he make his visits to Syria? Will Keir Starmer disown Lord Ali's position on the Assad government? Has Lord Ali made any representations to the leadership over Syria? The Ali donor scandal has just taken a very unsettling turn. But will those questions, quite rightly put by Guido Fawkes, be asked by the mainstream media? Of course not. Instead, I want to show you them embarrassing themselves as they actually run away in a mortifying manner from any concept that they are journalists chasing a story so here's activist number one james o'brien how does your ability to pay your gas bill how is it in any way affected by the price of the suit that kirsten is wearing Waheed Ali is a Labour peer giving money to his own party,

giving money to members of his own party, people, I don't know, perhaps he even describes as friends. So what is it that I am supposed to be cross about? And then the other voice kicks in and goes, no, you must be missing something. And you begin to, well, am I being tribal? Am I being all the things that I accuse other people of being? And you can answer that question quite easily. Have they any rules no have they broken any laws no have they

unlawfully prorogued parliament no have they lied to the house of commons and been found to have done so by a committee of their own peers with a majority of members belonging to their own party no have they accepted donations and lied about it as boris johnson did arguably with regard to his home decor no what what what transgressions are we describing here and how do we plot a course through this absolute salad of rollocks that has been served up to us by the people who were either implicit in or silent while, various iterations of the Tory party took this country to the abattoir. Now, as Nick Dixon posted about that moment on X, funny to watch old Jobber tie himself in knots over Labour's clear hypocrisy and opportunism,

best way to avoid this is by being honest. I attacked the Tories and Labour and just wrote a piece criticising Farage. Truth is so much better for your health. But here's activist number two, Ben Gendish. Stories about Keir Starmer's donations were legitimate initially, and I think now they've become utterly, utterly ridiculous. When you're having the pop at the Prime Minister for moving out of his house in a general election campaign so that his son could spend a bit of time

out the public eye revising for his GCSEs, I mean, you've lost all sense of what's a story and what's not, haven't you? And for then the... He's in New York. He's talking about the United Nations General Assembly literally as we speak about the situation in the Middle East,

about the plight of Ukraine, about other vital world issues. And the thing that the travelling journalists that are with him in New York seem to think is more important than all of that, based on the interviews I've seen, is who paid for his glasses and where he lived for six weeks during the election campaign in June and July.

I mean, if a lot of people, and a lot of people get in touch saying it's not key to star me or angry with, it is the media and the press in particular of this. Frankly, it's got to the point where, as part of the media, I can't help but disagree. I can't help but agree with you. When you look at the attention this is getting

compared to other issues. Here's activist number three and four, Lewis Goodall of the no-news agents and celebrity starmer apologist Gary Neville. First of all, what do you think about all of this Keir Starmer corporate hospitality of football? Is it a problem? I don't think it's a problem, do you? I don't know. I mean, I can't get my breath if I'm being honest.

I'm startled and alarmed at the amount of scrutiny that this is getting. It's certainly a very different approach and treatment to what I think has happened in the last five or ten years. Please. You hounded Boris Johnson out of office over a piece of cake. Look, this dumpster fire of government is so embarrassing on so many levels already. But I have to say, I think it is behind one of the greatest achievements in modern politics. And that is that in less than three months, it has exposed the British MSM as nothing more than propagandists for Labour and the establishment. So in these truly dangerous

and dystopian times, we have never needed the independent media to thrive more than right now. So let me bring in today's superstar panel. And today I'm delighted to welcome to Outspoken for the first time Reform UK's Maria Baltel and returning solo. This time is UKIP's honorary president and former conservative minister under John Major, Neil Hamilton. Great to have you both here. Neil, can you believe the complete hypocrisy from the MSM who just want to bury this scandal? But the problem is, Neil, the scandal gets worse by the minute because Lord Ali, best mates, or at least pretty close with Assad in Syria. Indeed, isn't it amusing to see Starmer's squirmers as we did on the screen a minute ago?

They created, or at least the Labour Party created, this monster which is now consuming them, because as you rightly said, under Conservative governments, the Labour Party were as voracious as a tyrannosaurus with a piece of meat in following up every minor indiscretion and treating that as though it was high treason. So they can hardly be surprised that now the boot's on the other foot, they're going to be given the same treatment. And I say bring it on, because one of the worst things that you can be in politics actually is a screaming hypocrite. And what we're seeing here is screaming hypocrites and seeing their chickens now come home to roost and it's true that a lot of these things don't

really matter very much in the grand scheme of things and what sort of suits Keir Starmer was when looking at James O'Brien I think he could do a little of Lord Ali's attention in that department. That's for sure. But what does matter is that the rules that Keir Starmer and his ilk have said are so important that everybody should obey to the letter are 18 million pound flat that he never seems to occupy himself but is always available for Labour top dogs to go and schmooze in is not as utterly laughable and the fact that you know his son needed to revise for his O-levels. But what about people who live in far more straitened circumstances than Lord Starmer's young son, who have to cope with far more difficulties in real life than his son will ever need to encounter? So what we're seeing here is actually very well deserved.

But you're quite right to say, why isn't any of this stuff being reported by people who pose as journalists are actually little more than just propagandists for the Labour Party or Keir Starmer and the others who are their top leaders. I mean, you remember that under Saddam Hussein, his principal spokesman was called Comical Ali.

Well, there are lots of people who are Ali's comedian that we see on the screen today, aren't there? What parallels. What parallels indeed. And Maria, great to have you on Outspoken, by the way. But I just contrast the way the mainstream media are covering this obvious scandal about Lord Ali compared to how they are covering your leader, Nigel Farage, who they chase around at every opportunity, hound any time he leaves the

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Different is calling. No, and thank you for having me on. I've never been called a superstar before. I could get used to it. And I think for me, it just highlights the importance of independent media. And thanks to people like you who are doing your own investigative journalism rather than just being propaganda machines and for me is it politics for a long time and what I've seen in politics over my my lifetime which I'm 34 so I

was you know aware slightly when Tony Blair got into power and I've seen how you can't trust any politician and what's the point because you're all the same and the delusion of people who supported Labour just being so smashed by this is quite quite nice to watch if I'm honest um because I just think the hypocrisy from all of them um that have running around in circles, taking it in the back pocket for years and years, more and more calling out, please. And I don't mind being held to account personally. If I'd managed to be elected this time, you can look at my accounts.

I'm, you know, I ain't taking anything. And that's why I got involved in politics because we need people to be held to a very, very high standard. And actually, if you don't cut that standard we need to call it out at every opportunity um and make sure that questionable people passing large amounts of money and large favors is highlighted by the media at all levels because yeah reform have to be squeaky clean in everything we do because if we put one foot

slightly controversial one side or the other we're we're out we're doomed oh yeah totally because look at that hit piece before the election with channel four and they used an actor to try and smear reform uk but what makes me so mad is there's a genuine story here involving labor which is in government and the mainstream media should be looking into that but in fact they are much more obsessed about Nigel Farage. It's just bizarre. Now, there is one moment in this scandal, I think, though, that has crossed into the public consciousness. And it's the fact that Starmer was very dishonest about how he used Lord Ali's very expensive penthouse during the COVID pandemic in December 2021, he was filming a video telling everyone to stay at home.

And there you see it, Neil, right there. He put family pictures up on Lord Ali's bookshelf to make it look, make us believe that that was his home. Now, that's deception, isn't it? Well, it's quite clearly a deliberate decision to do that. And so it was a deliberate deception. Perhaps he interpreted the rules as stay in somebody else's house during the pandemic. But that was with the opposite of what he was telling everybody else to do. And so I think this is all fair comment about him, actually. And he does have serious questions to answer.

And I think that the wheels have come off the Labour Party's cart very, very early in this parliament. Who knows what more is going to come out of all this? But what we see here is a cavalier disregard for the rules that he was expecting everybody else to behave. And remember, his biggest criticism of the Tories during the last parliament was that they didn't go far enough in locking the country down, imposing restrictions on people of an unprecedented nature to stop people living normal lives. I'd say I voted against all these regulations in the Welsh Parliament. Good on you.

At that time, because I thought they were hugely disproportionate to the reality of the so-called pandemic. And in no circumstances were the kind of restrictions that they cheerfully and unthinkingly imposed because the experts had said this is what you've got to do like like that absolute idiot chris witty who is still in post gave evidence yesterday admitting that he had exaggerated well i'm sorry i think he should be

locked up and i don't even care if people think I'm being extreme about that. The damage that men like that have wrought on our country makes me physically sick and he's still in post and he just gets away with it. No, no, no, no. You ruined so many lives there. But look, I want to just talk about the mainstream media bias against reform again, Maria, because there were a couple of very significant moments on Question Time over the last couple of weeks. Now, look, because there were a couple of very significant moments on Question Time over the last couple of weeks. Now, look, I've stopped watching Question Time on the British Bashing Corporation. I think most ordinary folk have, but it's still influential, unfortunately. And they have now changed the makeup of their audience. And this is how Fiona Bruce explained it.

What about the audience? Now, I mentioned, obviously, there's been an election in July, so the make-up of our audience has changed to reflect the new electoral picture across the country. So more people in our audience now voted Labour than for any other single party, then followed, of course, by the Conservatives and the Lib Dems and a proportionate number of other parties that did well in July too. So that is how it's going to other parties that did well in July too.

So that is how it's going to work now that we have a different government. But Maria, my understanding is that it's a first-past-the-post system, which means there'll be, for example, many more Liberal Democrat members of the Question Time audience, even though Reform UK got many, many, many, many more votes. So again so again the system the MSM seems to be stacked against Reform UK yeah and this isn't new news um if you've been involved with Reform you can see it everywhere you go it's not it's not something that I think even the Lib Dems would say is fair but if it suits them it is so for me it's just about they've made our lives harder but i just think the more they make our lives harder the more people they will lose in viewers um because word is stronger and actually the people i'm speaking to and even my own grandma quoted

bbc the other day and i was like you're still watching bbc and so i'm pretty sure my uncle's gonna fund her to get some other channels and things sorted so that she can get some, what I would call, real news. Switch it off. Switch it off, Grandma. I think people are switching it off. It was really refreshing conference. I don't

know if you heard Lee Anderson ripping up his TV licence letter and just the roar from the crowd. I'd be very surprised how many of us are actually watching the BBC That actually reminded me when I had Lee Anderson on my previous show on GB News and he ripped up a copy of

The Guardian. But look your chairman decided to brave it last night Zia Youssef appeared on Question Time, I think it was his first time on Question Time, I hadn't seen him on there before and in a mortifying moment for the BBC

and Fiona Bruce she had to withdraw a fact check that she had made of Zia Youssef. Watch this France does take more per capita in terms of asylum seekers than we do. I think Germany might as well but France takes more per capita in terms of asylum seekers than we do. I think Germany might as well, but France takes more per capita.

We are quite far down the list. Can we just come in for a second? No, let me just ask this woman here. Actually, before we move on, I just want to say, dear, you are right, in fact, that France takes fewer asylum seekers per capita than the United Kingdom. We take more than that. It's important to get that right. OK, let's move on. Take our next question. I mean, Neil, it's just mortifying for them.

I know. Well, I mean, the BBC is really unwatchable today, which is why more and more people aren't watching it. I've been on Question Time numerous times, although they haven't asked me since the Brexit referendum in 2016. And the audiences then were small, but they're much smaller now than ever before. And it's kind of echo chamber for North London lovies. Nobody is watching in the real world.

You know, 40% of the country didn't bother voting in the last general election. And of those who did, only a third voted for the Labour Party. So to stuff your audience with Labour supporters just because they got 20% of the vote, of people entitled to vote in the last election, seems a very quixotic decision. I hope that that means that 15% of every Question Time audience are going to be Reform or UKIP supporters

well I'll believe that when I see it maybe they should all wear badges so we can identify who's who in the audience exactly I remember watching an episode of Question Time I think it was a couple of years ago and they said oh does anyone in this audience believe that the boats should be stopped and not one person put their hand up, which I think says it all. Starmer's hypocrisy also followed him across the Atlantic yesterday

when he met with US President Donald Trump. Now, Trump was asked by Christopher Hope of GB News how the president was feeling about meeting Stammer. A man who we need to remember had said utterly, utterly vile things about him in the past. Very well. It's very early, but he's popular and I'll be seeing him and I'll send you regards.

Who are you with? Who are you with? I'm with GB News in the UK. Okay, good. Would you rather Nigel Farage were in a bigger role? Well, I think Nigel is great. I mean, I've known him for a long time. He had a great election too.

He picked up a lot of seats, more seats than he was allowed to have, actually. They acknowledge that he won, but for some reason you have a very strange system over there. You might win him, but you don't get him. Nigel is a fantastic person. Would you rather Farage be in the spot? Okay, so I think we can now say Donald Trump is supporting

proportional representation coming to the UK. Yes. But look, there's always a tweet, isn't there? There's always a tweet or an ex post, as you meant to say now. And look at what Starmer had previously said about Trump. An endorsement from Trump tells you everything you need to know about what is wrong with Boris Johnson's politics and why he isn't fit to be Prime Minister. Also with him at the meeting, Maria, was David Lammy. I'm shocked that Trump even allowed him

in the room. I mean, Lammy, remember he had actually described Donald Trump as a neo-Nazi. Yeah, I wouldn't meet Lamy personally. I'm just waiting for him to be shipped off to where he belongs somewhere, not in our Parliament personally, because I just think to be able to make comments like that and then step into such a position of power

and international influence, I just think it makes our country look like a laughingstock, along with the rest on the screen at the moment. Yeah, it's true, actually, isn't it, Neil? Lammy makes our country a laughingstock. When he was at the United Nations earlier in the week talking about the Ukraine war, he decided to link it to the fact that he was black

and his family had suffered from the slave trade i mean the guy is a walking talking joke i wish we could be so cavalier about it he he's not so much a laughing stock as a crying stock makes you want to weep doesn't it that he is the public face of the united Kingdom for the rest of the world. It's an embarrassment beyond measure that somebody like that is in such a grand and important position. But, you know, the most nourishing diet that any politician can have is words, i.e. eating your own from the past when they come back to bite you on the bum, as they are now for Starmer and Lammy and no doubt many other current ministers in this government. But I think it'd be very educational and therapeutic for them, actually,

to meet with Donald Trump in person, and they can make their apologies to him there and then. Trump, of course, is a much, much bigger man than they would ever be, and Trump isn't everybody's cup of tea. Of course, you might not want him as a weekend guest. Oh, I would. It would be great fun. I mean, even those who are his detractors might not want to have him come and stay with

them, but they have to admit that he was a vast force for good when he was president of the United States. No wars. No wars. No wars. Massive beneficial reductions in taxation, quite the opposite of what's going to happen now. Cutting the deficit. In so many ways, Trump was a leader of the Western world,

the like of which we haven't seen since Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. And everything has fallen to bits since he ceased to be president. So I'm rooting for Trump big time in November. And the United Kingdom's best interests are served by Trump winning, not the Democrats who have no idea whatsoever about how to defend Western values and the interests of the West. And they pose actually a massive danger, I think, to the stability of the world rather than its pacification, because it's true that in recent decades, all the wars have been started by Democrats and actually have been finished where they've been finished at all by Republicans.

So Starmer and Lammy ought to wise up and see where the interests of our country truly belong. But of course, they're not themselves very pro-British. They always wanted to apologise for everything that is British and downplay our greatness as a country. So with apologists like that, who needs enemies? Indeed. Now, look, I do cover the psychodrama

on the Conservative side as well and hallelujah finally uh baroness saeed awazi out of the tories she walked before she was pushed after what was quite clearly an egregious and i would personally feel racist tweet about the case of Maria Hussein, who was carrying around that awful vulgar sign describing Rishi Sunak and Swala Bravman as coconuts. And there was Wazi literally drinking from a coconut saying this one's for Maria Hussein. So yesterday she posted on X, it is with a heavy heart that I have today informed my whip and decided for now to no longer take the Conservatives whip. This is a sad day for me. I am a Conservative and remain so, but sadly the current party are far removed from the party I

joined and served in cabinet. How did she ever serve in cabinet? My goodness. My decision is a reflection of how far right my party has moved and the hypocrisy and double standards in its treatment of different communities. A timely reminder of the issues that I raise in my book. Muslims don't matter. But James Cleverley hit back. He's, of course, a conservative leadership contender, former foreign and home secretary, happens to be black. With the quote, you're not properly black if you're a Tory. And he said that is a particularly pernicious attack.

I've been called a coconut too many times to laugh it off. It hasn't held me back or brought me down but a conservative peer not recognizing the abuse of other black colleagues is unacceptable and look i've spoken to lots of uh non-white conservatives maria over this issue including father calvin robinson who's a regular on this show, Suwala Braverman, Priti Patel, this is an offensive and racist term to them. So is it right that Wazi is out of the party? I think it's absolutely right. I think it's been quite a long time coming, actually, because for me, what strikes me about what she's done here

is that two of her colleagues that she's supposed to be teammates with to support to make sure that their party you know is one that shows unity and strength and it is just a prime example of the kind of um segregated angry blame throwing and just generally offensive attitude of certain MPs that they have. And for me, she should have gone a while ago because I don't think she's remotely conservative. And it's a good deal for them. Why was she ever in the party, Neil? I mean, come on.

She's like a centrist to me. Yes. Well, to describe the Conservative Party as too far right. I mean, this Conservative Party, Neil, I would argue, has become a centre left party over the past few years. Exactly. I think Farsi and the Conservative Party deserve each other. And I think as a result of dumping, I suppose they've been nudged a little further in the right direction. It remains to be seen when the result of the leadership election is known whether there's going to be any real change.

There won't be any radical change anyway, whoever wins. But some of them are better than others, of course. But I do think there's a point here that I'm not interested in whether it was racially aggravated abuse and that's what the crime for which the prosecution was instituted and of which um hussein was was acquitted i'm pretty much a free speech absolutist and i don't mind i don't mind abuse being thrown unless it's an incitement to violence or something of that kind but if you're in the same party, you can't go around throwing personal abuse of that

kind at your colleagues. And Neil, we just know that if it was any other sort of racist remark, especially aimed against someone in a left-wing political party, Wazi and Mureh Hussain would be locked up. So this is just another example

of two-tier justice, which we're constantly dealing with. But look, breaking right now, Boris Johnson has revealed that he was asked to try and stop Megxit from happening back in 2020. Now, these revelations coming from his new autobiography, Unleashed. And I'll show you some of the other things he's going to talk about in just a moment. But this was the first story that the Daily Mail decided to go within their serialization. And they write, Boris Johnson made an extraordinary last-ditch bid

to persuade Prince Harry not to quit the UK. The former prime minister reveals in his sensational new memoir that he was asked to give the Duke of Sussex a, quote, manly pep talk to convince him it would be a mistake to leave Britain for a fresh start abroad with his wife Megan. He reveals that in January 2020, just weeks after his landside election win, officials in Downing Street and Buckingham Palace believed he may be able to talk Harry

out of his seismic decision to quit the UK and walk away from his royal duties. The XPM writes that there was a quote ridiculous business when they made me try to persuade Harry to stay. Kind of manly pep talk, totally hopeless. The secret meeting which underlines the close links between number 10 and the palace took place in the margins of a UK Africa investment summit in London's Docklands. They met for 20 minutes apparently and a friend of Boris paid tribute to Harry's efforts on the Invictus Games and praised Meghan's work on their shared passion for promoting the education of women and young girls. And this is what the friend said. He thought they were a great asset to UK PLC and it was a real shame they were leaving when they were doing such great work. It was a man-to-man conversation. They were a great asset to UK PLC and it was a real shame they were leaving when they were doing such great work.

It was a man-to-man conversation. They were totally alone. But Harry wasn't for turning. He was unpersuadable by that point. So I broke the story of Megsit back in January 2020. This was particularly interesting to me because it shows you that actually, despite what Prince Harryry and megan claimed in their netflix documentary and their tissues of lies interview with oprah winfrey in fact the queen was doing everything possible neil to try and keep harry and megan within the fold even getting boris involved yeah, I'm glad he failed.

I mean, if we had a crowdfunding exercise to pay for their tickets to California, I would happily have contributed towards it. But I mean, it's all very sad, really, isn't it, the way that Harry has been transformed by Meghan into a shadow of his former self? He did a brilliant job in creating Invictus Games and all that. And what does she do? I mean, she's one of the laziest grifters you can find anywhere

on the planet. All she's interested in is me, me, me, and appearing on stages and in photo shoots and waving at people, not doing anything which is the slightest use to anybody. So good riddance to them, I say. And I'm very glad that on this occasion, Boris failed in his objective. It is quite interesting, isn't it, when you think about Maria, because Boris Johnson, I think, in history will go down as the leader who was able to deliver Brexit. And actually, he, in a weird way, delivered Megxit too, which I think we should also celebrate.

I think for me, Boris probably had very little effect. I don't know whether if I was deciding to emigrate or leave my entire family, I'm not sure some, you know, strange man who apparently is some sort of celebrity or politician comes up to me and tells me to stay in the country and stay close to my family is going to make the slightest difference what's interesting i think is it shows the desperation i'm interested to know why some authorities well yeah because it shows the desperation doesn't it within the royal family neil and just how far relations between between Harry and his own relatives had sunk. The fact that they thought, oh, my goodness, who can we ask? Who can we ask?

OK, we're going to have to ask Boris. Although there is some historical precedent, isn't there, Neil? Because, for example, John Major tried to be a little bit of a peacemaker during, you know, the Diana and charles years yeah well that didn't end well either did it no so i think history is not exactly on on the royal side on that one i mean of course for a family this is a very distressing turn of events anybody who's experienced this kind of breakdown of relationships within a family will understand why the queen was very keen to try to paper over the cracks and to keep harry

within the fold but it was perfectly clear that megan was unbiddable in all this and she had absolutely no interest in being a working royal at all. All she wanted was the fairy princess elements of the role. And so it's she who has poisoned Harry on all these issues, in my opinion. And that's a great tragedy. And the extent that she succeeded in that, it has significantly damaged the royal family. I think we've gone beyond that now that the true reality in all its glory, gory technicolor has been revealed

about Meghan and Harry and the shameless way in which they have behaved and intend to continue behaving. So I think that, you know, it's very sad for the royal family, but I say for the rest of us, bring it on. Well, indeed. I mean, look, Harry made a mistake not listening to Boris Johnson. That is the reality, because what has gone on in the preceding four years has been disastrous. It's been disastrous for his reputation. I mean, last night, there he was on American late night TV looking around

some sort of new fairground, Halloween attraction. I mean, it's embarrassing. It's degrading. It isn't doing anything to support any of the causes that he claims to care about. So yeah, I think he made a big mistake. He actually should have listened to Boris Johnson when it came to that. But look, lots more Boris revelations coming in Unleashed. Here's what he's teased so far. why I learned to keep my old friend Michael Gove firmly in the wing mirror. The G7 summit at Carbis Bay in Cornwall was a total triumph and I enjoyed a small and delicious revenge. Discover what I really think about Rishi. Read exclusive extracts in the Daily Mail and find out which of all the routine jobs you have to do as Prime Minister, I find the most terrifying.

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So firstly, he's talking about that cake moment, the moment that cost him his job, really, when he apparently broke the rules by being at a birthday party and he says i saw no cake i ate no blooming cake if this was a party it was the feeblest event in the history of human festivities uh he's speaking a lot to about covid times and this will be a revelation that surprises a lot of people why I considered invading Holland with a dramatic canal raid to snatch our five million stolen vaccines back from Brussels clutches we never actually really needed the vaccine so I don't think you needed to worry about that uh how COVID nearly killed me if it hadn't been for Jenny and Louis they are his

nurses fiddling with those oxygen tubes all night with all their skill and experience i think i might have carked it and he says brexit and bingham pulled off britain's vaccine miracle and naturally labor attacked them both so these are boris johnson's covid times being revealed tomorrow ne Neil? What do you make of that? He considered invading Holland to get the jabs back. Yeah, well, I don't know whether that's just Boris being entertaining. I can't imagine he meant

that in reality. But the true tragedy of what happened to Boris was that the rules which he was responsible for introducing were impossible to observe unless you locked yourself away in a padded room. And so it's no surprise that he ended up breaking them for the most trivial of reasons. But nevertheless, because of the absolutist way in which the COVID lockdowns were imposed. He was a victim of his own decisions. So I can't

really have much sympathy with him because I oppose the whole thing. It was completely unnecessary. It destroyed the economy, the public finances, the costs of which we're continuing to pay today and will do for many, many years to come. Ultimately, he was responsible for destroying the Conservative government. That's not to say that Labour would have done any better. Obviously, they would have been even more draconian. But nevertheless, it was a catastrophic series of decisions. I'm afraid he paid the price. This is going to be such an entertaining book, though. I mean, I actually agree with everything you just said, Neil. But the thing is, and I know lots of people don't like me saying this, Maria,

but I just have an affection towards Boris Johnson. I know he failed as a leader in lots of ways, but I really do like Boris. And this is hilarious. This book is hilarious. I'm just going through some of these excerpts right now, Maria, that these have literally just dropped he likens sir kare stammer to a bullock having a thermometer unexpectedly shoved in its rectum he says former tory prime minister theresa may displays a school mommy self-righteousness and writes, I was particularly fixated upon her nostrils, immensely long,

pointy black tadpole shapes, like a Gerald Scarfe cartoon. And he also absolutely slams Barack Obama too. So this is, this is going to be entertaining Maria, isn't it? At the very least. A lot of my family really liked Boris, or did.

I think for me, being, I would say, conservative-valued, what he did to the party made me like him much less. But there's no love lost now. He's well and truly gone. I wouldn't like to see him back in politics, personally. But I will probably be reading his book. So you think it's over for him politically

because he is promising of course to reveal if he's going to make a big comeback. I guess you don't want him back because he could push Nigel off course. I just think he's had his time and he made some grave mistakes and he bowed out.

And it ultimately has led to the crumbling away of Conservative Party. I think I don't want to blame him for everything. But I do think he could have handled things better and he could have still been in power today, potentially. Who knows? But he didn't't and we have to move on and i just think bringing that back is not going to be good for anyone okay breaking right now nicola bully's partner paul ansell has spoken for the first time about the vile criticism he received in the days after his lover went missing you'll remember of course the nicola bully story absolutely captivated the attention of the country and despite being completely innocent many tried to finger paul ansel as having something to do with his loved one's disappearance so this

is what he's had to say. When you experience something like this, you realise what a huge monster it can be, I guess. I was getting direct messages from people that I've never met. They don't know me, they don't know us, they don't know Nicky, they know nothing about us. Just messages like, we know what. They don't know us. They don't know Nikki. They know nothing about us. Just messages like, we know what you did. You know, you can't hide, Paul, that kind of stuff.

There was some that I felt like replying to. But then if you reply to that, they'll just screenshot your reply. That'll end up on social media. And so you're literally silenced. Neil, look, I have a real issue with this one because of course I feel absolutely terrible for what Paul Ansell went through. It was barbaric. It was absolutely barbaric. People were incredibly cruel

and he had nothing to do with Nicola Bulli's disappearance. But here's what my issue is, Neil, and I'm pretty sure you're going to agree with me as a free speech absolutist. The solution that the left always seems to take from these stories is that we need to somehow censor the internet. We need to somehow censor the internet we need to somehow censor social media and that's what my concern is but i have to say i do have huge huge sympathy for what paul ansell went through because not only was nicola the love of his life missing presumed dead he was completely wrongly accused. card and then some get your ticket to more with the new bmo vi porter mastercard and get up to 2400 in value in your first 13 months terms and conditions apply visit bmo.com slash vi porter to learn more yeah well i've been in a similar situation myself more than once where i've

been demonized before social media existed as it does now to be honest but but nevertheless i know what it feels like as a hunted quarry and you don't have any power to answer back because you just don't have the firepower that media institutions do have but having said that i am as rightly say, totally opposed to censoring the internet or any other publication, actually, unless what is sought to be printed or broadcast is in some way an incitement or provocation to violence, or at least could reasonably be seen as such. And I think we just have to accept this goes with the territory if you are in public life as I've been for most of my life obviously you have to accept that because that's effectively what you

volunteer to experience if things go a certain direction in life if you're a private citizen of course it's somewhat different but nevertheless it's very dangerous to to censor free speech because who's going to decide who's doing the censoring and who's going to guard the guardians or guard us from the guardians because you have to accept that nobody is completely unbiased everybody's got access to grind on one kind or another and if you silence groups in the population just because you disagree with them or because you think that what they say is disinformation, even though there may not be any way of proving that, I think that's a very, very, very dangerous course for us to be going down. I'm afraid there are going to be casualties of truth, just as there are casualties of lies and that's just one of the aspects of life

that we have to cope with and you you can't have good weather all the time so um i agree with you dan i think that whilst one's got enormous sympathy for him in the plight which he found himself um i'm afraid there's a there's a bigger issue at stake here which we would ignore at our peril no indeed indeed and you know i spoke out at the time about what he was going through and how awful it was and there were vultures actually vultures like k burley on sly news who were using this story to promote their own personal brand to hell with the consequences of the family. Woke Eye TV acted completely reprehensibly over that period as well,

and it created this climate of abuse towards Paul Ansell, who was trying, remember, they have children, you know, was trying to deal with the children no longer having their mother there. So I do understand how awful it was. Like Neil as well maria i have been through this sort of social media witch hunt it is awful and as neil says you feel like you can't speak out uh you know that the whole world is coming down on you because you lose control of the narrative and you're thinking this isn't true but i'm trending on social media and it's not true

so i absolutely understand i i mean i viscerally feel his pain but i just don't know what the solution is maria because i do not want social media censored yeah and i agree wholeheartedly so for me i did get some abuse if you like not much um but for me the freedom to say what you think um is is more important and so i agree with both of you that we shouldn't be censoring social media who gets to decide what's misinformation um i think it is awful that someone has been accused of something before you know allegedly but then they start putting hyphenated brackets on it suddenly you become the enemy and it's such an emotive story and it was heartbreaking to read about and people instantly looking for blame it's just it's so

awful that he had to go through that while trying to console look for his you you know, it's just not right. But again, I don't know the answer either. For me, I like social media and everything to be completely transparent. You say what you think, people can see what you've said and we have to hold each other to account as friends, relatives. And if you need to withdraw yourself from social media, I don't blame anyone. I've got family members that don't touch it with a barge pole and they have quite straightforward lives. I know sometimes I'm very envious of those people. I mean, Neil, I do wonder if there

does have to be different advice though, given to people going through these situations. So in my situation, which was very similar to yours, Neil, but the difference was I did have to deal with social media. You were dealing with the mainstream media. I was dealing with social media. And the advice, Neil, was always don't speak out. Don't say anything. This is all going to go away. But it doesn't go away in the world of social media. So is there an argument now that actually people like Paul Ansell, I mean, I know he was going through the worst time of his life, but maybe he couldn't speak out publicly, but maybe he needed representatives on his behalf or friends or family members to actually front up. Because I wish I had actually, when people started spreading

lies about me, I just wish I had come out day one and tackled them head on and said, you are lying. Show me the proof. Show me the evidence because this is a lie. Yeah. Well, every case, of course, is different. See, you can't generalize in a way which is universal. But you know that 20 years ago, both Chrissy and I were falsely accused of rape and sexual assault.

And that was a massive news story because it was in August that the story broke and there was no other news going on. So we were front page news on every newspaper, top headline news on every news bulletin. And we decided that we would do exactly what you have just been saying. We would come out fighting and it took us a month to get this farrago of lies to be thrown out so the police ended their investigation on the basis that there was no evidence whatsoever to justify any of these allegations.

But it did take us a month of beating the Metropolitan Police around the head every day in the newspaper, beating them at their own game. We used the media to prosecute our cause in the way that normally the mainstream media, as it have gone on and on and on and on, month after month after month. We wouldn't have been able to earn anything because we were entirely self-employed in the media, in the world of entertainment ourselves. Such allegations are wholly toxic. Nobody wants to give you any work. And so we would have just been economically asphyxiated, as well as all the psychological and emotional trauma, which being in the headlights on the suits your case, yes, go out and fight and not just protest your innocence, but to make sure that your cause is prosecuted in the most effective way. Because that's the thing. He didn't have anything to do with the disappearance of his wife, Paul Ansell. And actually, it could have been very powerful. But look, I understand these

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code Outspoken for a 15% discount. But now back to the show and Neil Hamilton returns. Neil, Muhammad Al-Fayed, he was your great nemesis. He was the man that tried to destroy your life. And it turns out all of these months after his death, in fact, almost certainly this guy, and I'm not going to say I've looked at the evidence, I haven't, but 60 women now accuse him of sexual impropriety. The reports are coming thick and fast. It turns out that there were multiple complaints made to both the police and actually the DPP run by a certain Keir Starmer who did not take action

against Al-Fayed. So Neil, this must be, I imagine, one of mixed emotions for you, because here was the man who tried to destroy you and he got away with this all, if indeed he was guilty. Yeah, well, of course, we suspected this all along. It's not only his sexual predations but also the complete corruption by which he was surrounded in his private office whereby if you fell out with him then he would seek to destroy you by whatever means. Even senior Harrods executives like Peter Bolliger who was the managing director of Harrods executives like Peter Bolliger, who was the managing director of Harrods, or Christoph Bettman, the deputy chairman of Harrods, Graham Jones, who was the finance director of Harrods, imagined that they were responsible for various irregularities,

which were completely unfounded. But he sought to destroy their lives as well, and many more like them. In the case of Graham Jones, who later went on to work for Qantas in Australia, he was the finance director of Harrods, and he undertook the valuation of a company called Modena Engineering, which was a Ferrari specialist, in which Nick Mason, the Pink Floyd musician, was a shareholder. And he thought that Graham Jones had overvalued the company because he'd taken bribes from somebody to sell it to Fyde at an overvalued rate. Absolutely groundless. And yet he got Graham Jones arrested on a plane as it was on the takeoff from Heathrow and dragged off the plane

taken to Guildford police station under arrest and interrogated by the police they eventually decided there was no evidence to justify any of this all that was organized by his head of security John McNamara who's now dead but he was responsible for for making corrupt payments to the police left, right and centre to get them to do Fyed's bidding, even to the extent of getting people to be arrested on wholly bogus claims. And the many other examples which I've written about previously, and none of this was actually taken into account in my case to undermine the credibility of Fayyad and his senior employees who made allegations which brought my political career at Westminster to an end.

And yet in all this, his willing participants in his attempt to destroy me, of course, was the Guardian newspaper the guardian which had previously uh condemned him for being a liar purveyor of cock and bull stories and a complete fraud uh willingly took up the cudgels and questioning me on his behalf to destroy conservative ministers i wasn't the only one who was targeted in the 1990s. But I was the only one who fought back. And over many years, I even got the Bill of Rights of 1689 amended, the only person in history who's managed to do that, in order that I could bring libel proceedings against Fyde about things which were alleged to have happened in Parliament. And, you know, it took me the best part of 10 years and cost an enormous amount of money at the end of it. And I didn't succeed in my attempt to protect my reputation through the courts.

But of course, now that the reality of Fayad is being revealed in Gloria's Technicolor, it calls into question not just him, but also the people by whom he was surrounded who took the fired shilling and who were responsible for supporting him in his predatory actions, both sexually and in the case of financial irregularities as well. Most of them are now dead, but some are still alive and some of them, in fact, are still appearing on television.

It'd be interesting to see what comments they've got to make about all this. The persons that I'm thinking of have been strangely silent, in fact, unseen over the last few days. Michael Cole. Michael Cole, is that who you mean? He was his spokesperson. Well, he's one, yes. He was Fayed's principal megaphone, actually. And had been on BGB News commenting on various things.

And since this has come out, he's disappeared. Neil, one thing that I keep thinking about is Princess Diana and Muhammad Al-Fayed. Now, they were incredibly close. And it was Muhammad Al-Fayed, of course, who introduced her to Dodi, which doomed her in the end for various reasons. Now, if this was so widely known in the 90s, why do you think Diana, who was someone who very much was on the side of the women and and the abused in life why was she so closely associated with muhammad al-fayed well of course she was a very damaged person and one can understand why given uh what what happened in the course of her marriage but uh i think what dodi was a very damaged person as well and growing up as the son of Muhammad Al-Fayed,

you could well understand that too. Dodi was also a drug addict and he'd been wrecked mentally, I think, because of that. He was never able to live up to his father's expectations. I mentioned this company, Modener Engineering, Fayed bought it as a kind of plaything for Dodi. The enterprise failed, of course. That's why the company went down. And that's why Fyre then accused his former finance director, who'd valued the company at the time of

the purchase, of having overvalued it. So growing up in that environment made life very difficult. So, you know, I mean, all the sympathy for Diana. I do really. But she couldn't have chosen a less appropriate soulmate than Dodi Fayed. And nobody would have wished what happened to them to happen. And it wasn't entirely inevitable. But I think in a metaphorical sense, it was a car crash waiting to happen and it wasn't entirely inevitable, but I think in a metaphorical sense, it was a car crash waiting to happen. And it was part of the overall tragedy.

Wherever Fyde went, whatever he touched, it was a palsied hand which poisoned everything that it encountered. And why he got away with it, why the establishment weren't interested enough to take him on, is a real mystery to me, because here is a man who saw himself as a modern Guy Fawkes, who tried to blow up modern parliamentary institutions, in effect, and to bring down a government on the basis of, you know, holy bogus claims, so-called cash for questions, never actually happened. But he was a destructive force in every respect because if he didn't get his way, he would seek to destroy you. And the reason why he sought to destroy me

was because he'd been criticised in a government report. And when I was corporate affairs minister years later, I became responsible for this area of policy. He wanted me to reverse that report. Clearly, I wasn't in a position to do. And I just washed my hands of the whole thing. Let somebody else make that decision. And similarly, in other respects, Fad was thwarted. He couldn't get a British passport. So that and he and he couldn't get the European Court of Human Rights to do his bidding. And that was the point at which he turned his fire on the entire conservative government led by John Major.

And yet nobody ever took him on. You know, here is a man, as I say, who tried to bring down and to an extent succeeded in bringing down the government of the day through the agency, not just of himself, but also his willing helpmates in Another example of how the left's hypocrisy actually has done enormous damage to the institution of this country and indeed to common decency, actually, because the left present themselves as arrogance of good behaviour and moral values. Actually, the grubby truth is usually the very opposite, as we're now seeing with Starman, Lady Victoria, Sponger, and all the dirt that's coming out about the

financial improprieties that are going to engulf this current government. But a media which is really bent upon investigation in the cause of truth is vital to a free society. What we don't need is a media which poses as that, but does the opposite, actually covers up the truth and actually is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Indeed. Well, look, thank you for sharing your view on it. It must be very mixed emotions. Personally, I just think, oh, Diana, you shouldn't have trusted this guy. He was so wrong in so many ways.

And maybe if you hadn't trusted Muhammad Al-Fayed, you would still be with us today. But Neil Hamilton, so good to talk to you. Thank you very much. Now coming up in the uncancelled after show, Prince Harry embarrasses himself in New York with a juvenile TV appearance on late night. I'll show you and we'll have top stateside analysis from the Royal News Network. You know, it's very important to me that we have a safe space not patrolled by big tech where censorship and control runs deep so that's why i have launched www.outspoken.live it's our membership section where you get half an hour of extra content every single weekday after this main show so at this stage what we do is we come

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