Dan Wootton Outspoken - KELLIE-JAY KEEN EXCLUSIVE ON HER SICK ATTACK & FATHER CALVIN ROBINSON ON THE WAR ON WOKE

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Women’s rights are under threat in a way not seen since the 1800s. A toxic combination of evil wokery, left-wing misogyny and extreme Islam has seen those standing up for biological reality put under direct threat. And no one in the world has been a bigger advocate for women – and victim of abuse and assaults than Kellie-Jay Keen, assaulted again by a man at the weekend. In his Digest, Dan lashes out at Labour for nor believing in women’s rights. Then Kellie-Jay joins him live for an in-depth interview. PLUS: Father Calvin Robinson on how Starmer has plumbed new depths of greed AND: Why is Loony Lammy now turning the war in Ukraine into an issue of race? To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live episode number 58. And to support this brand new independent news venture, please hit subscribe right now and turn on your notification bells. Now, when you think about a woman who is someone that absolutely defies what is going on at the moment in our culture. That person, to me, is Kelly J. Keene. Watch this. Just before we started, some fetishist, crazy young man decided to take, I think it was organic or less salt, tomato soup. And can I just say, I do prefer Heinz.

So. That moment after she was attacked in Sheffield. Now, I believe that women's rights are under threat in a way that we haven't seen since the 1800s. A toxic combination of evil wokery, left-wing misogyny and extreme Islam has seen those standing up for biological reality put under direct threat. And no one in the world has been a bigger advocate for women and victims of abuse and assaults than Kelly J. Keene. So in my digest, I'm going to lash out at our new government for not believing in women's rights.

Then Kelly J. joins me live for an in-depth interview. Also coming up on the show today, Father Calvin Robinson on how Starmer has plumbed new depths of greed. The third example you gave to me was accommodation. Let me just tell you what that was for. That was because at the beginning of the election, which we didn't know when it's going to be called, my boy, 16, was in the middle of his GCSEs. And why is Looney Lamy now turning the war in Ukraine into an issue of race? But I say to the Russian representative on his phone as I speak, that I stand here also as a black man, whose ancestors were taken in chains from Africa at the barrel of a gun to be enslaved,

whose ancestors rose up and fought in a great rebellion of the enslaved. Then in the uncancelled after show, Philip Schofield's big TV comeback, does he deserve it? And Meghan Markle hits back at new criticism that she's a demon and a psycho to work with. I'm going to tell you all about that. And you can register to watch on our own website right now at www.outspoken.live. It is a safe space, free of censorship and your support at just £5 a month. Not only gives you 30 minutes of extra content every single weekday, it also allows me to continue making this independent daily news show. Let's go. So I need to start today by reminding you that the people we now have running the country in the UK are so stupid, are so chronically infected by the woke mind virus

that they do not know what biological sex means. Now that is dangerous. Dangerous on so many levels because it means they are making decisions not based on reality but rather a woke ideology that they don't seem to realize is designed to destroy the West, including womanhood. Here's our new Prime Minister Keir Starmer. A woman can have a penis. Nick, I'm not... I don't think we can conduct this debate with, you know... Sorry, I've offended you in some way. No, no, no, it's just... no, no, no, I just...

A woman can have a penis. I don't think that discussing this issue in this way helps anyone in the long run. Here's our new Chancellor, Rachel Reeves. To you, the same question that was put to the party leader, is it transphobic to say only women have a cervix? Good morning. Good morning, Nick, and it's great to talk to you. Good to have to you. I just think

that this issue has just become so divisive and toxic and it pits people against each other, both groups who face discrimination in society, women and trans women and I just find this debate incredibly unhelpful and unproductive to be totally honest. At this conference I want to speak about issues that affect people whatever their gender and whatever their sexuality. And we will get to those I assure you, but is it transphobic, yes or no? Is it transphobic? Look, I just don't even know how to start answering these questions. Here's our new Foreign Secretary, David Lammy. Look, I just, I don't even know how to start answering these questions. Here's our new Foreign Secretary, David Lammy. Is it transphobic to say only women have a cervix, David?

I don't know if it's transphobic, but it's not accurate, Nick. I mean, obviously, it's probably the case that only uh that trans women don't have ovaries but a cervix i understand is something that you can have uh following various procedures and hormone treatment and all the rest of course you can't of course you can't but who wants to let science get in the way of appeasing the woke men who make up the be kind mob, right? Enter Kelly J. Keene. It's not often that you can say a billboard began the shift of an Overton window. But when it comes to women's rights, simply displaying in public the dictionary definition of a woman as an adult human female surely did. I mean,

it's obviously incredible, astonishing, that in these so-called enlightened times, a biological definition could be considered hateful in any way. But those attacks on Kelly J. Keene, as she influences international conversations about the protection of women, have become ever more deranged. This was in New Zealand last year, after Kelly J. was assaulted by a man, of course, with tomato soup.. And this weekend, such horrific scenes came to Sheffield, in the UK, in her home country, as Kelly Jay was yet again assaulted by a man, yep, you're following a trend a man with tomato soup.

You'd think such shameful scenes would be widely condemned by so-called feminists. But surprise, surprise, I haven't heard a word from the Home Secretary Yvette Cooper who was so quick to condemn the so-called rioters. Not a word either from the so-called feminists who make up the media elite. Nothing from Emily Maitlis, nothing from Carol Vorderman. Total radio silence. But Kelly's supporters caught the man. I'm not going to name because he's now been charged with assault. And you won't be surprised to know that Kelly wasn't backing down either.

Posting on X after the attack, if you haven't worn it, Have you ever really enjoyed tomato soup? She added, women, it's what we do. Thank you. I feel quite overwhelmed at the resilience of all who remained after the assault, at the kindness of those who helped me and theK2 soup nil. And then fearlessly she returned to speak because Kelly J is all about letting women speak. It's really about every one of us. Let me just tell you if you're watching on YouTube or Twitter, just before we started, some fetishist, crazy young man decided to take, I think it was organic or less salt, tomato soup, and can I just say, I do prefer Heinz so now there are some who are backing Kelly Jay's lonely quest my friend Megan Kelly wrote of the assault look at this pathetic excuse of a man running like a scared rodent after dousing posy puck which is a moniker that kelly sometimes goes by with tomato soup at

a let women speak rally this is what women face when standing up for their rights in 2024 fight and the brilliant douglas murray added there are men in our society who think attacking a woman at a Let Women Speak event puts them on the right side of history. Fortunately for us, Posey Parker and friends are not going anywhere. Of course, Douglas is right. Woke misogyny must be defeated because women are under attack in ways that we haven't witnessed since the 1800s. So make no mistake, those attacking Kelly J. Keene, be it online or in the flesh, you are on the wrong side of history. And I'm delighted to say that Kelly Jay joins me now live. Kelly Jay, so good to have you here. I remember we spoke on GB News just after you returned from New Zealand because I was so ashamed of the country of my birth for putting you through that.

But now here we have an assault happening in your home country in the UK. How are you feeling about it a couple of days on? I'm fine, actually. I think these men just make my job a little bit easier because my job is to sound the alarm and make sure everybody knows what's going on because I think most people are just totally oblivious to the rights that women are losing. So they make my case quite easy. I think, you know, by the time I realized it was tomato soup, that was the first time I realized anything was afoot. So I didn't have any moments, unlike in new zealand where i you know i may have had moments where i thought i don't know what this liquid is um you know i'm very familiar with

tomato soup it was my it was the staple of my summer holiday as a kid yes an early lunch uh you might say but look kelly you are a mum you are a wife and you know yes this time it's tomato soup but given the Islamist threat to women like you who are speaking up too do you worry if it's worth it do you worry about your personal safety do you one worry that one day actually you could be the victim of serious harm? I think I'm so determined that I have to be heard and I have to create space in which women can speak that I don't really dwell too much time on the safety of the issue. I can't say the same for my family. A couple of my children still not watched what happened in New Zealand. They just can't bear it. And my husband watched it live. So I think for them, it's more worrying, but I'm probably wrong, but I feel I'm a little

bit, you know, untouchable, even though I clearly am not. But I sort of think, no, you're not going to stop me. I'm not going to be intimidated. This is not going to happen. At my next speaker's corner before I fly out to Australia this Sunday, we are walking down to the actual speaker's corner to ensure that women continue to have, take up room in that space. We moved away from it because men are so noisy when they're shouting about God that we moved well away from it because it's just not fit for purpose without any amplification for women. But we are walking down there just to sort of say to any men

that think that we shouldn't speak that we will speak, we will speak in public and we will take up some vital room that we have lost um at speaker's corner there is an extreme islam threat though in london isn't there we've seen it yeah yeah who knew who knew um it's only been bubbling under for i don't know four decades um but. But I'm a big fan of Christopher Hitchens and how I wish he was still here to talk about it. But I think any ideology that, A, is not homegrown, although this woke stuff is very much homegrown,

but Islam, I think, poses a specific threat that we're not allowed to talk about. I'm really worried about Islamophobia coming back as sort of a blasphemy law. I think we ought to, I think everyone ought to be very afraid of that. I can't quite understand why people are so blasé about it. But it's such a successful campaign. You can shut people up by just saying racist or Islamophobe and that's it. You've taken their words.

They can't speak anymore. Well, there's so many ways to shut people up. And I think one way that people are being shut up at the moment, because he's been charged and there's the potential for contempt of court. But often, Kelly, I worry that this shuts down discussions because it's like, OK, we'll wait till the court case. That might be years away. And by that point, everyone moved on. Everyone has forgotten. But you have made a general point,

which I think we can safely talk about, to say it would be wrong if someone is going to jail for three years because of a Facebook post, if someone who physically assaults you isn't sent to prison so i think we can speak hypothetically kelly j about your views on this two-tier justice system and what should happen to men who attack women speaking up for women's rights in public? Well, my view is it's, and it really sounds hyperbolic, and I really don't like exaggerating or making a case that seems just too far-fetched, but it is an act of terrorism.

Terrorism is what? Violence and criminality in order to serve a political aim, and that political aim is to stop women talking about this. And so I think anyone engaging in any acts of intimidation should be seen by the police. I think it's a criminal act. But furthermore, acts of violence against women who speak about this, I think that is next level.

And I am very concerned that, mean where's that where's the quick court system surely there's a quick court system and whoever attacked me is in I don't know must be must be already in court by now because Keir Starmer's opened so many little kangaroo courts all over all over the country so I'm sure by now my the attacker must be must be inside um but maybe it would have been better if I'd just said something about his gender identity online. Maybe we would have seen the inside of a court. Yeah, or then you would have been locked up.

I mean, almost certainly, which is obviously the madness of the system that we're dealing with. So look, let's talk big picture for a moment. Do you think I'm correct in saying that women's rights are under threat in a way that we haven't seen since the 1800s? I do. I think a rollback. You know, I'm not saying that women in 2024 have got fewer rights than maybe we had in 1908. But certainly, I don't know if there's ever been a rollback of rights. There certainly has in other countries. They coincidentally happen to be countries with the vast population being

followers of Islam and governments that are followers of Islam, but certainly not in the West. In countries that are free, supposedly free, have a facade of freedom. I don't think we've seen our rights being taken away this quickly. And I think women's rights and working class rights, I think they all seem to be very closely sort of enmeshed, which is why you are seeing those two things. I think you crush women and you crush families and you can have access to children and you really can break down the entirety of society by taking things away from women.

And people don't realise yet, do they? I mean, I think many millions more are waking up, but people don't realize actually that woke ideology is designed to destroy the west in a lot of ways and as you say part of that is by breaking down women by uh putting women into the same category as everyone else i mean i am convinced a lot of this is about rolling back women's rights and that's where where the Islam threat, extreme Islam threat, becomes such a key intersection in all of these discussions. Yeah, it's a pincer movement, really. people that are into progress and call themselves progressive should really stand quite firmly against uh the the rise of of extreme islam or as i might call it islam um you'd think that they

would be uh sort of in opposition but they don't seem to be and i think that's this element of racism uh and ultimately a prejudice that these people, the progressive side, think that actually if you do belong to a so-called minority group, you really don't have the skills and the wit to behave the same way as everybody else. So it's like a really bizarre, pernicious, genuine racism. So I am deeply concerned that people don't see it. I mean, I'm unlisted from my doctor's surgery because I questioned a pronoun badge. So it's beginning to seep in absolutely everywhere that if you raise your head above the parapet and more and more people are because they have, I mean, who would know that if you say to your doctor's receptionist,

I don't think you should be wearing a pronoun badge say to your doctor's receptionist I don't think you should be wearing a pronoun badge I think it's ideological I don't think that has any place in the NHS that the next minute you'd get a call from a manager who would ask who would just basically say we're enlisting you the relationship between us and you is broken down completely but I think more and more people are having those sorts of penalties and consequences to things that are really run of the mill yeah i listened to that phone call kelly j because you posted it online and it was extraordinary it was so shocking because obviously what they're saying is so intolerant but surely it should be illegal to deny you of health care at an nhs gp because of your views or any gp actually because of your uh views on uh what it is to be a woman

which we have to always remember is based on biology well remember there will be people with really deeply vile thoughts um and feelings and criminal records that are allowed still at my old gp surgery i mean i was even told um i got another letter saying i couldn't accompany my children which sort of sounds like i must have done something really egregious and terribly violent um but i've got a friend who's a lesbian who complained about the Pride Progress flag, and she was also unlisted from her doctor's surgery. And we've got women, a woman called into Turf Talk, which is something I call in thing I do, and she'd asked for, well, she'd been offered a chaperone during an intimate exam by a consultant in a hospital and when she looked down that chaperone was actually not a female it was a man calling himself a woman so then she was in a

position where she had one person in there for safety and a man doing the exam and the person in there for safety was also a man so it's it really is everywhere. And we see that women's safety is under threat. I saw a video in a nightclub overnight posted by someone who said that a man had followed. I mean, this was a woman who posted this. A man had followed her into the ladies' bathrooms. This was not a man even pretending to be a woman. She posted a picture of him. It was very obviously a man.

And his excuse for following her into the ladies' toilets was that he identified as a woman. Yeah, isn't that joyful? I don't think he's the first either. I certainly don't think he will be the last. So, you know, this is going to keep happening, I think. And even if he was pretending to be a woman, I think we've got a situation where those men going into those spaces,

it used to be that men would recognise it, see it as an issue, and they would go and stop them. But now nobody's allowed to do that because it would be politically incorrect. Is there any situation where you think a so-called trans woman should be allowed into women's only spaces? No, I don't think there's any place where I would like a man in any women's group, none of our language, none of our rights, none of our spaces, not even a online reading group. I mean, these men have penetrated so many of women's spaces

that this may shock you, and maybe it won't, but it might shock some of your viewers that there are men calling themselves women in women's stillbirth support groups. There is absolutely no. Back up, you're going to have to explain that one to me. As in there's an online group for women who have suffered a stillbirth of their babies who are recovering from something I just can't imagine. And there are men pretending to be women who've also had a stillbirth.

It really is. And wherever your mind can go to the deepest, darkest place, that's where these men sometimes exist. So how do you think as a society we need to deal with the growing number of people who are deciding to identify as trans? I mean, is it a mental health issue, for example? I think it's an issue of saying no, actually, Dan. I think there's a generation of children who've had helicopter parenting who've been told that every five minutes, are you happy? Are you happy?

Are you happy? And do you know what? Life is not necessarily about being happy most of the time. It's about getting to a place where you feel content, where you have purpose. So I think we need to get it out of um universities get it out of schools like yesterday i i mean labor are making some noises but teacher unions they are totally captured uh these are the places we need to remove them and

we just need to bring a robust kind of enjoyment really of, of debates. And I think that's also lacking. You know, sometimes people now just go, oh, I don't want to talk about it, rather than, I don't know about you, but when I was growing up, I really did enjoy a good, juicy debate, an argument about an issue because it's fun. You won't be surprised.

No, indeed. But the thing is, there's a reason, isn't there, why so many Hollywood A-listers now have trans children and they are not trans and the problem is kelly i feel very deeply about this this is a personal one for me as a gay man because i know what it's like to be a youngster both before the age of 10 and as a teenager, when your hormones are running wild and you're struggling with your sexuality. And you think maybe I should be dressing up as a girl.

Maybe I should be playing with Barbie dolls, whatever it happens to be. And in fact, that is a necessary part of the journey. Now, I am chilled, absolutely chilled when I think there was a possibility that back when I was six or seven thinking of what that boy was like and those struggles, that there could be some evil teacher, and I really do use the word evil, who would try and convince my parents that I needed to be transitioned in some way, because that would have been an absolutely catastrophic decision for me. So there's not only so much misogyny connected to this argument, there's so much homophobia as well. I mean, how many of these young women who have been putting on puberty blockers and going through the most horrendous surgery that cannot be reversed? I mean, I've spoken to so many of the detransitions, including very brave young women like Carabelle. So many of them are just lesbians who don't realise it because they're a teenager and there's lots of pressure on them.

It's, look, I think we just have to make parents be parents again and stop outsourcing parenting to someone else. And I think schools need to butt out, actually. I'm really quite alarmed at the fact that some teachers, I went and visited a teacher with a parent, and these two safeguarding leads in senior positions, in senior positions in the school, they barefaced lied to this mother. And so I think we need to disabuse teachers of the notion

that they know better than parents because they don't. And the state doesn't know better than parents either. And we also, I mean, slightly off topic, but we also have lots of children now going into state care, daycare at a really young age and having much less time with someone who loves them. And I don't mean that, you know, women should stay at home and they shouldn't go back to work, but I don't think we should be pushing women to go back to jobs they don't enjoy and putting their kids in daycare for poor wages. I just don't buy it. So when it comes to homophobia, I mean, one of the bigger kind of promoted kids in America is called Kai Shetley. And his mother admits, you know, he was very girly as a

little boy. Her words, not mine. And she tried to beat him. She said, I was worried he was going to be gay. So she tried to beat him out of it. And there's some videos and it will break your heart. There's some videos of her talk, him talking about his mom, having a hat that could grow a flower out of it and he's so cute and now he's used as a poster girl of what it's like to have a trans kid the homophobia kind of train

into trans is unfortunately very well travelled Well it is because I want to speak specifically about the pronoun debate in the context of celebrity because so many of these celebrities kelly j who i know personally by the way from my old life so demi lovato sam smith they are troubled They are attention seeking. They are making decisions for their careers. So both those individuals said, you can no longer call me she, her. You can no longer call me he,

him. I am they, them. I am non-binary. And if you dare try and put me into the category of any biological sex, you are being discriminatory. Now, I think that should be instantly dismissed. I mean, Sam Smith is just like boy George, right? A camp gay man. And that's fine. Put your high heels on, go around in dresses if you want, but you are a man. But what happened, Kelly J, was that the Brit Awards actually decided to drop their best female category that had existed since the establishment of those awards had been somewhere that females in the industry, sometimes overlooked, could be rewarded. And because of Sam Smith, a man, we now have no female categories at the brit awards and i know that's just one example but it's a pernicious example isn't it and it shows how

celebrities drive the culture in such chilling ways yeah i mean look i'm wondering whether both demi lovato who i think was has been very troubled I think she was a Disney kid or Nickelodeon kid, but I worry about her. And I think that maybe she was trying to identify out of something. And Sam Smith, too. I think maybe I don't want to forgive him for his bad behaviour because I think he is an adult. But I think there's an element of grooming that's gone on with some of the more influential so-called queer community, like a lot of men that can sometimes pull quite vulnerable gay men into places that maybe they don't want to be.

Emma Corrin is one that I really do have quite an issue with. Yeah, so she played Princess Diana in The Crown. Yeah, I mean, that was a non-binary role, right? That wasn't an iconic female role. She actually ruined the last Marvel film that I went to see, I have to say. But yeah, and she's incredibly privileged. And we all know that it's absolute nonsense. We know that it's nonsense.

It doesn't mean anything to any of us. Maybe we just bring grownups back in the room. But as for celebrity, can't they just go back to having little dogs in handbags? Because it just feels like this is just the latest. Oh, I'm such a great person. I'm so kind and accepting that I'm going to let my boy wear a dress. I mean, isn't it? Emma Bunton has got a son who is now,

she refers to as a daughter or she, her. Charlize Theron, Angelina Jolie. So you think this is almost like a celebrity accessory. It's like it's no longer good enough just to have a gay or lesbian kid. We want to have a trans kid now. That makes us cool in the woke brigade. Well, was it good? I don't know whether there was a time when it was all right

to have a lesbian daughter. I mean, look at Cher. She kicked her daughter out when she was 17, when she came out. And she's now like a gay icon. I can't quite fathom how that's worked out in her favour. And then her daughter now calls herself a man. I think that's a very, very sad state of affairs. But yeah, when it comes to celebrity,

I think one thing the lockdown did for us all is it really did take a lot of the shine and sparkle of celebrity. I mean, it did many, many bad things, but that was maybe one good thing. Absolutely. We should not be listening to these people. But then there's another type of woke celebrity, Kelly J, that I want to talk about in the context of your battle.

Because don't you find it extraordinary that women who would have previously identified as feminist champions who are in the media, so I mentioned to earlier Emily Maitlis and Carol Vorderman, but there are many, and you know who I'm referring to, never once talk about the violence against you. What do you make of that? Why are they silent? Well, it's weird weird isn't it i often say that

that that those feminists could have a very long conversation about someone touching their knee oh it was so distressing they touched my knee under that it was so awful and uh but if you said well actually i just saw my daughter just went in a female only space in a women's changing room and some man got naked in front of her. If that man's name is Julie, those women are not interested. I think it's just an extraordinary lack of courage. And I don't know quite where it comes from. Maybe it's also privilege that these women are not going to be in spaces

where they're at risk. But I'd just say to each and every one of them, just say no to one of these men. If you're unsure whether or not they're still men, just say no, and then you'll find that maleness just rises up very, very quickly. But do you feel alone? I mean, when you look at now who is in charge of the UK,

for example, and the same thing has happened with the Biden administration in America. We know the madness there. But look at those three key figures in the government who I played at the top of the show. Keir Starmer, David Lammy, Rachel Reeves. They don't give a damn about protecting women's rights. And they are now running the country.

Do you feel alone? I guess. I sort of feel like I'm in a very, I find it a party called Party of Women, I'm in a very fortuitous position almost because all of these people are so, you know, do lack so much courage and won't say these things that i become a lone voice i guess in that i will say the things that need to be said you know kirsten apparently gets confused about sausages so i'm i'm thinking maybe he just doesn't know what a man is either well he clearly doesn't it's so It's just a lie, though.

This is the thing. It's not, and I think it's worse. It's not that they don't know. It's that they won't say. And that to me says, do I think these people are fit to run the country? No, I genuinely don't. I am quite fearful where we'll be in five years. And the only hope I've got is that we field candidates as party of women up and down the country, eventually the world.

But we start with the UK and we get those conversations started. And we really are the only party, and I do mean only, that genuinely has an understanding of what this issue is. And I don't mean that reform doesn't make some great noises, and they really do. So I don't want to cast aspersions. But there is something very different about the visceral fear that a woman feels where she can hear a man's voice in her space. And I don't think that you, I don't think you can really replicate that fear or explain that fear in a way that is fully comprehended unless you've experienced it. So I do feel alone, but I'm quite happy with that. At least I'm not going to get pulled down by anyone else's compromise. The elite class might not be taking on this argument. The mainstream media might not be taking on this argument.

But I certainly feel a change. J.K. Rowling has maybe been a big part of that. Yeah. But do you feel hope that actually ordinary people are now being prepared to have these conversations that potentially a couple of years ago they would have been too afraid to voice because there was that real fear of oh my goodness someone's going to call me transphobic it's like that someone's going to call me racist thing so we just can't have a discussion has jk rowling and that free speech especially with elon musk buying x because i think of the return to the platform of people like Graham Linehan, who was literally banned for stating a biological reality, have allowed a conversation to take place. Yeah, I think so. Look, I'm banned from everywhere. I was banned for four and a half years from X. I

was one of the first people to be banned for this. I was banned from Patreon i don't only earn any money off any single platform that i'm on so um i was banned a really long time ago and i'm no one so it's quite bizarre that people would be um you know that anybody would be banned from from anywhere uh but if i can be banned i guess everyone can be uh but yeah i think i think x has made a really big difference i think donald trump uh has made some noise the right noises uh in this area so i think that makes a difference um i i i think you know we've stretched the overton window there's been women working really hard i've been doing this since 2016 and so there's been a lot of women working really hard to get this out so i also think it's not just that it's not just that people are frightened

of being accused of transphobic. Sometimes people just don't want to get stuff wrong and they don't know what the right thing to say is. And so I have hope that truth will always out, that we're humans, we've been on this earth for a really, really long time. And this is just another phase in something very silly that might have gone on too long,

that hopefully doesn't leave too many bodies. Do you think there's personal responsibility on folk, though, too? Because I think of, and I hate this term, but I think of the journey, it sounds very woke, that people like Megyn Kelly have been on, and me to an extent as well where we were working for mainstream media organizations kelly j where we saw the madness of being told oh you can't use someone's pronoun and you're going to have to write you know your

1500 word article without ever referring to sam smith as a he or a him and we've come around to this idea that no no no we're not going to buy into this bullshit you know dylan mulvaney you are a man and so we will call you a he him do people have a personal responsibility to fight back against some of that madness too yeah 100 but um you know the reason you had to say things in mainstream media is because trans activists way before any of us knew any of this they had gone and they had undermined that undermined the truth in organizations like the independent press uh commission like offcom yes. I've got a friend actually who works at Ofcom and I was saying to her the other day, they won't debate.

And so that means that they can stop anybody talking about this issue because they refuse to debate. I think we should empty chair people that refuse to debate. And it hadn't even crossed her mind or any of her colleagues' minds that this was a very effective way of stopping people talking about it. Do you feel like you were cancelled? I mean, you talk about the demonetisation, for example, and obviously we've seen that happen to Katie Hopkins

and to Tommy Robinson. It's probably very unlikely you'd get platformed in the mainstream media. Do you feel like you're more cancelled now or actually have things started to get better? Oh, that's a great question. Well, I'm just flying out to Australia to speak at CPAC, so I guess I can't say I'm fully cancelled. But there is a petition to try and stop my visa.

So we'll see. I don't know. I've come from, I'm unlike other people in this field that the fight didn't come for me. I came for the fight. I saw that what was happening. And I decided as someone who was a stay-at-home mother with my four kids

that I would start selling t-shirts and stickers to raise money to put up a billboard because we needed to talk about it and I genuinely thought then I put this billboard up and everyone go oh my that's so right she's so right let's just well let's all go home that's done um and here I am like six years later in fact it's six years tomorrow that the billboard was taken down happy anniversary and you know what I know it's been difficult I imagine it's been particularly difficult for your husband and your kids but thank you for everything you've done you know I have huge respect for you and i really believe things are changing and i hope that the independent media will be a big part of that too because i've seen what megan

kelly has done in terms of supporting you in the us and getting your message out there and i hope that actually the death of the mainstream media will also be the death of some of this crazy ideology. But keep up the good fight, Kelly J. Thank you. Such a pleasure to have you. And now it's time to bring in The Outsider. And I am joined by the great father, Calvin Robinson Robinson to tackle what is becoming an incredibly unhinged, dystopian, and I would say damaging start for Slippery Starmer's administration as the cronyism, the sleaze piles up by the minute.

But meanwhile, as pensioners literally believe that they are going to freeze to death, look at what was going on at the Labour Party conference last night with Emily Thornberry. We are being ruled by woke champagne socialists who are so out of touch with the people who they claim to represent. Emily Thornberry now versus the Scottish Labour leader, Anas Sarwar, in a dance-off. I bet she's a slimmer than you know who I am Too high, I bet she's got my bad, bad, bad, bad Girl, I'll sing to your hallelujah Girl, I'll sing to your hallelujah Girl, I'll sing to your hallelujah Cause uptown punk don't give it to ya

Cause uptown punk don't give it to ya Cause uptown punk don't give it to ya Saturday night, we in the spot Don't believe me, just watch Don't believe me, just watch Don't believe me, just watch Don't believe me, just watch Don't believe me, just watch Hey, hey, hey, hey

Wait a minute, throw my cup Put some liquor in. Make a sip. Side of check. Here we go. Get the stretch. Let's have Hollywood. Hollywood.

Jackson, Mississippi. If we show up, we gon' show up. Smooth as a fresh glass. Give me. Too hot. Hot dance. Got the police and the firemen. Too hot.

Hot dance. Make a drag and. Father Galvin. I mean, probably the worst dancing I have ever seen in my life. But there is something so tone deaf, isn't there, about this Labour Party conference? It's shocking, really. It seems they don't understand the mood of the country. They're out there celebrating and they're living their best lives. It seems to me they are so happy that they've finally got into government and they're loving the benefits of the million pound helicopter rides and free stadium tickets and all the benefits and frills that come with the job. But they're forgetting

the people that they were elected to represent. They're forgetting the people that cannot afford to heat their homes. They're forgetting the people whose winter allowance has been taken away from them. Bomb them! And so this massive disconnect, I think, is only going to grow bigger and bigger between the state and the people the state is supposed to be supporting, representing and helping. And what's so shocking, Kelvin, is that, that for me this is a hypocrisy thing they were constantly on the backs of tory leaders specifically boris johnson for actually uh very very minor things

like for example trying to get donors to fund the renovation of downing street which actually is something that makes a lot of sense. Taxpayers don't want to pay for it. You don't want your prime minister living in a complete horror show, do you? But with Starmer, it feels like every day there is a shocking new revelation about how he was getting this billionaire gay TV executive, Lord Ali, to fund a lifestyle so extravagant, I actually think it would make Madonna blush. So the latest, Calvin, is that we now hear that another £20,000, another £20,000 was provided to Keir Starmer, and this was as a result of his son studying for his GCSEs. Star McLean.

Listen to this BBC interview. The third example you gave to me was accommodation. Let me just tell you what that was for. That was because at the beginning of the election, which we didn't know when it was going to be called, my boy, 16, was in the middle of his GCSEs. I made him a promise, a promise, that he would be able to get to his school, do his exams without being disturbed. oedd yn y cyfnod o'i GCEs. Fe wnes i'r cymryd i'w ddod i'r ysgol, i wneud ei

cymryd i'w hysbysebu heb bod yn cael ei ddiffyg. Roedd gennym lawer o gyfranogwyr arall ein tŷ, lle oedden ni'n byw. Nid wyf yn penderfynu am hynny, mae hynny'n iawn. Ond os ydych chi'n 16-ol yn ceisio gwneud eich GCEs ac mae'n eich un cyfle i fod yn fyw, fe wnes i'w ddod i ffwrdd i ffwrdd i ffwrdd i ffwrdd i fynd allan o'r tŷ honno ac i fynd i rywle y gallai ei ddysgu yn him, we would move someone, we'd get out of that house and go somewhere where he could be peacefully studying. Somebody then offered me accommodation where we could do that and I took it up and it was the right thing to do for my boy. It didn't cost the taxpayer a penny. That's somebody who was Lord Ali, wasn't it? Yes, of course, but my primary concern wasn't about influencing government. It was making

sure that my boy could do his GCSEs without having to wade through loads of journalists outside the house, which may not trouble you and me, but for my 13-year-old girl and my 16-year-old boy, it does make life more difficult for me. You obviously look... I don't complain about journalists.

You clearly feel passionately about this. I really do. Oh, please. You're on the take, Starmer. So look at this. Chris Rose has worked out that the dates of Keir Starmer's luxury £20,437 stay was from the 29th of May to the 13th of July 2024. The first GCSE exam was on the 9th

of May. It ended on the 19th of June. So it doesn't add up. As Chris Rose said, I was told Starmer was too sensible to ever lie. So he needs to clear this up. This man is a fake and a phony. He is the ultimate champagne socialist, Calvin. He is on the take. And it makes me sick. I mean, I'm not as enraged about it as you are, Dan. I think I actually understand where it's coming from.

It's not nice to have, as you are, it's not nice to have the media hounding you and your family on the doorstep. And I think if he's got a rich friend who's willing to put his son up in a place while he's doing his juices, he's great. But the truth is it's all exposed. It's all out there.

We know who's funding him so therefore we know if this lord alley gets any special influence why that happened so that's good we we can see the transparency the bit i don't like is the hypocrisy so when labor were in opposition they were jumping down the conservative government's throat for any benefit they took any handout they took any any friend that helped Boris Johnson decorate his flat and that kind of stuff. They were all over it. And now the tables have turned and of course they don't care anymore. And so it wasn't about principles, it was just about attacking. That's the problem I have with it. I want our public representatives to be paid

well so that they don't have to look to friends to help them out i want them to have a good salary so they can dedicate their entire time to serving i'm all for that i'm all for that but it is the absolute hypocrisy and actually the deceit as well that makes me sick and remember they were the ones who was slamming boris johnson as disgusting that was his word. I know, all over a piece of cake. They toppled a government over a piece of cake, for goodness sake. They went on and on and on.

So the hypocrisy is disgusting. But again, that's a good thing. It's out in the open. We can all see what massive, fragrant hypocrites they are. And so the next time they have to rely on us to vote for them, I don't think as many people will. Not that many people did this time around. They're just losing. They're pouring votes out left, right and centre.

This is one of the least popular governments and one of the least popular prime ministers we've ever had. We've only been in office, what, a couple of months? It's crazy to see how quickly socialism can put people off. But we did warn them. And the thing is, this story is snowballing, though, because Guido Fawkes has just broken that Starmer actually used Lord Ali's penthouse as his fake COVID home. So this is back in December 2021, when Starmer produced a Christmas video message during the pandemic. It was to attack Boris Johnson, but praise the new plan b system which was ludicrous at the time but guido has actually worked out calvin that this was filmed in lord ali's 18 million pound penthouse but what they did is they put some pictures of starman's

family up on his luxury bookshelf i I mean, this is getting bad. I'm sorry. It's also quite strange. We've heard Starmer talking about his family and his relationship with his family. It sounds very robotic. The children and the father don't actually seem to have an affectionate relationship with each other.

And then we see that Starmer put out this picture of him kissing Samantha this week in an article where he said, the government wants to take back control of people's lives. And I'm thinking, I don't want the government to take control of my life. I want the government away from my life. I want the state well away. But the photograph

was very, very robotic and straight. It looked like two people. You mean Lady Victoria, right? Indeed. Yes, not Samantha. That would be a bigger story if he was kissing a woman who wasn't his wife. But how terrible, Calvin. They're now calling Lady Victoria, Lady Victoria Sponger.

But things are just getting out of control, Calvin, I think, in lots of ways for this government, because also, breaking right now, it has emerged that dozens of people released from jail under the government's emergency prison scheme were freed by mistake. So this is according to Sly News, which quotes a Ministry of Justice source saying that 37 people were released in error on the 10th of December because their offences were wrongly logged under outdated legislation. Many of these people haven't even been brought back into custody. So this is just going completely wrong. This is one of the worst policies I've seen in my lifetime. This idea of releasing

dangerous, potentially violent and abusive criminals early in order to make room in prisons. I still can't get my head around the decision-making process there if the prisons are full create more prisons if the prisons are full of foreign criminals deport foreign criminals there are many ways to save space or open up spaces in prisons but letting people out early is disastrous and especially since we know that some of them have been abusers and some of them have been violent criminals that have been let out

and sexual abusers at that. It's disgusting. It's unsafe for women. It's unsafe for the general public. But then to find out that some people have been let out by mistake, what is going on? It's almost as if, I mean,

either this is a very, very incompetent government or they want to create havoc and chaos in our streets. Yeah, well, I think they are certainly going to create havoc and chaos on our streets. Calvin, stand by, because Looney Lamy, as I now call him, the foreign secretary, has been trying to turn the Ukraine war into an issue of race, linking it to slavery. This is odd. I'm going to show you what he had to say in just one moment, so don't go anywhere. But first, hot flashes, sleepless nights, weight gain, joint pain.

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Outrage though, as David Lammy has decided to use an address at the UN talking about throwing even more money, even more billions at Ukraine. But David Lammy, like he does with everything in life, believes the Ukraine war is somehow connected to race and slavery. Watch this. But I say to the Russian representative on his phone as I speak, that I stand here also as a black man, Ond rwy'n dweud wrth y cyfrifol Rus, ar ei ffôn, wrth fy ngeisio, bod yn dweud y gwna' i'n sefyll yma hefyd fel dyn Blynydd, gan ei fod ei haneswyr wedi cael eu cymryd mewn llythyr o'r Africa, yn y bwll o gwrth i'w ddynol,

gan ei bod eu haneswyr wedi cymryd mewn aeth a ddod yn y ffrwng mawr o'r dynol. Rwy'n ei wybod, pan fyddwn i'w weld, ac rwy'n ei alw ar gyfer beth mae'n ei fod yn ei fod yn. enslaved. Imperialism, I know it when I see it, and I will call it out for what it is. In this week, when I'm here talking to other partners around the world about our shared futures and the future of the UN, Russia is trying to return us to a world of the past, a world of imperialism, a world of redrawing borders by force, a world without the UN Charter. We cannot allow this to happen. Ukraine's fight matters to all of us. The UK will remain Ukraine's staunchest supporter. The broadcaster and former Brexit MEP Alex Phillips responded to that by posting on X, white people aren't ever allowed to be the victims.

Somehow all the lives lost and destroyed through Russia's vile invasion of Ukraine must instead be regarded through the prism of David Lammy's narcissistic point scoring about his ancestors' struggle against slavery and his preciously unique wisdom as a black man. Is there any topic he won't turn into a woke wine? It's so unbecoming. The speech started off quite strong. Then he made everyone in the room roll their eyes. I think the UK has lost the plot with his American high school TikTok babble. This is not OK. He makes the country lose respect at vital international meetings. Father Calvin Robinson, your verdict.

This is embarrassing. It's really, really sad. I think bringing up his ancestors in that way, they'll probably be rolling in their graves with cringe. The fact that he managed to make it all about him and all about his skin colour, it's critical race theory 101. This is supposed to be a conversation

about the Ukraine and Russia. And actually, he should be saying that we need to stop funding this war. The war supposed to be a conversation about Ukraine and Russia. And actually, he should be saying that we need to stop funding this war. The war needs to end. We need to stop sending, what is it, £3 billion a year of UK taxpayers' money to Ukraine, at the same time as taking away the

welfare of elderly people. And also, it wasn't just about his race though and himself. He almost managed to make Russia sound like the good guys. He was saying, what was it? Russia is trying to return us to a world of the past. I'm thinking, yeah, okay, rejects modernity, embrace tradition. He says, a world of imperialism, again, sound, a world without the UN charter, yes, let's get rid of the UN, fantastic, let me, where do I sign up, you know, he's not really very good at public speaking. I mean, in fact, he's sat there saying,

I stand here as a black man, and he's sat there in his chair. Whoever wrote that should have had a second thought. But he has a one-track mind. He has a one-track mind. Critical race theory, all he obsesses about, about making Russia look good when he's supposed to make them look bad. And he doesn't address the British people's issues and wasting all his taxpayer money.

And of course, he gets the language wrong. He's not actually done that. He's sat there. Embarrassing. Yeah, no, it was embarrassing. But I think you're absolutely right, of course, to raise the issue of Ukraine and the money being thrown at Ukraine. Now, the mainstream media, you know, Calvin, they have barely questioned this. We have been at least having the debate and discussion about it initially on my

GB News show, actually, Calvin, just in the days following the invasion. I remember you've always been very, very clear on this issue. But finally today, I don't know if they're, you know, I'm not giving them too much credit, but at least Susanna Reid of Good Morning Britain, at least she

put to stump the astonishing figures that are still being used for the war in Ukraine when Labour have decided to take away winter fuel credit from pensioners. So watch this exchange. We're about to be in America, in New York. We spend $3 billion on Ukraine, $ 8 billion on foreign aid. What do you say to those who say, spend that money at home? I understand that argument. But I think in relation to, let's say, Ukraine, we have to understand that that war in Ukraine is not just about Ukraine. It's about Russian aggression. It's about our freedom, our democracy, the way we're able to yw nid yn unig am Ukraine, mae'n ymwneud â rhagreswm Rwydwaith, mae'n ymwneud â'n ffurf, ein ddemocraith, y ffordd rydyn ni'n gallu arwain ein hawliau yn y wlad hwn. Mae'n y ffwrdd

o ffurf, ac felly mae'n bwysig iawn ein bod yn sefyll gyda'r Wcraine. Dyna pam bod unrhyw uned gwleidyddol yn dda yn hyn o'r dechrau. Ie, wrth gwrs, mae'r Rwydwaith wedi'i ddynnu Yes, of course, Russia has invaded Ukraine, so it's about Ukrainian sovereignty, but it is also about our freedom, our democracy, and our rights and freedoms in this country. And I think everybody would accept. And any cost to foreign aid? Well, you know, of course, every decision has to be carefully taken. But we have been resolute, and I'm proud that we've been resolute in this country for our support for Ukraine. I'm proud that across the country, people have opened their homes to refugees from Ukraine who've suffered from Russian aggression. I think that's who we are as a

country. But it also matters. Because if Russian aggression is seen to benefit and succeed, that is an issue of deep concern to the united kingdom no no no calvin can he stop speaking for me not everyone accepts this i do not accept it he just signed off another 600 million to ukraine there was no debate there was no discussion about it we cannot afford it and i'm sorry calvin i do not want another forever war why are we not talking about peace but it makes me so mad when he just continues to act as if these highly controversial and divisive issues i i only have one uniform response from the british public yeah the prime minister is clearly a liar here he's saying that it's about us, it's about our freedom, our democracy. We are not at war with Russia. The last I checked, we

weren't yet in World War III, despite many people in the West trying to drag us into it. This is about the Ukraine and Russia, and the British people should have a say on whether we fund a foreign war, a proxy war. We should have a say on whether £3 billion a year, on top of the £8 billion we already spend on foreign aid, goes to Ukraine. We should have a say on whether £3 billion a year, on top of the £8 billion we already spent on foreign aid, goes to Ukraine. We don't seem to have a say. You're right, there hasn't been a proper debate in Parliament about it. But even if there was, both sides seem to be on the same page with this. Boris Johnson was the one who disrupted the peace talk back in April two years ago. Russia and Ukraine could be at peace right now, but the

West doesn't seem to want them to be. It almost seems like powers in the United Kingdom and the United States are making too much money from this. We know that BlackRock is heavily involved and is taking money from main Western countries in order to rebuild the Ukraine. And so we know that a lot of money is going to BlackRock. Where's the money going after it gets to BlackRock? That's a question people should be asking. People should be looking at which politicians BlackRock funds. And there are major politicians that are, it's all out there in the open, that BlackRock are funding. So essentially, money is going from taxpayers to a third party company and then back to politicians who sent it there in the first place. That is corruption, essentially. Our money has been wasted on greedy politicians. Well, and as I say, Calvin Robinson, you have been calling out the corruption of Ukraine

from the moment that this invasion happened. And actually, a lot more people are having their eyes open to it now. When it first happened, I remember the news hit. We were at the old station, and I took two weeks off. I remember saying, look, I'm not an expert in this. I don't want to pretend to be an armchair expert. Everyone else seems to be. All the commentators were like, oh yeah, yeah, go Ukraine. I'm like, I don't know enough about it. Someone has to spend some time. And I spent two weeks on research first before I had an opinion on it. And I found out that the

Ukraine has always been one of the most corrupt nations in the world. And it was the most corrupt nation in Europe. And then overnight, suddenly we're like, this is the epitome of democracy. It must be protected at all costs. Our democracy relies on it. And then I saw the bar swathes of money coming out of the country. I'm like, where's the money coming from in the first place? How is this guy suddenly rich? How is his wife suddenly in this mansion over here? Where's this actor suddenly got all this money from? And it raised major concerns that I think everyone should be worried about. But people see the current thing. We must be on this side

to be seen as good guys in history. Well, actually, it's important to be on the bright side. Yes, absolutely. But discern, pray and work through it. Don't just jump on whatever your government tells you is right. That's the dangerous pitfall to get on.

Very good point. Stand by, Calvin Robertson, don't go anywhere because Calvin is going to stick with me for today's uncancelled after show where we're discussing Philip Schofield's big TV comeback. Does he deserve it? And Meghan Markle hits back at criticism she's a dictator duchess in high heels.

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