Dan Wootton Outspoken - KING CHARLES CRISIS OVER ANDREW COVER UP REVELATIONS AS PRINCE WILLIAMS ADMITS HIS PANIC

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: King Charles remains in hiding today as there are growing calls for the monarch to consider handing the throne to Prince William, with suggestions that the under-fire royal could step down in the next six months, citing his terminal cancer diagnosis. This is not normal and the King’s silence will not hold. After all, the heir to the throne is now admitting in public that he is certainly not keeping calm and carrying on in what is an historic emergency for the monarch as there are now even calls for Andrew to be tried for treason in public, In his Digest Dan looks at what Charles knew and how he can attempt to survive this growing calamity. We’re then joined by the former Head of Royal Protection Dai Davies who is now calling for a full public inquiry about what the disgraced Duke’s officers really knew and what was covered up. Then we're joined by the Superstar Panel: Celebrity chef and social commentator Jameson Stocks, the UK’s number one political prisoner and free speech advocate Lucy Connolly, and Reform UK campaign manager for Kensington and Chelsea and host of the brilliant news show UK Now Kezia Noble. PLUS: GB News is forced to apologise over Laila Cunningham’s false claims about Rupert Lowe’s Restore Britain, as Reform’s London mayoral candidate loses it two new media appearances as she storms off Piers Morgan Uncensored. We’ll show you what happened. AND: The Baftas has been plunged into woke warfare as a Tourette’s row explodes over the shouting of the N-word of the movie awards show by the subject of the acclaimed movie I Swear. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle’s twisted plan to use the Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor scandal to re-write her narrative when it comes to the British Royal Family has been rumbled. We’ll team up with the Royal News Network for all the latest. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 432. And breaking right now, King Charles, remains in hiding today as there are growing calls for the monarch to consider handing the throne to Prince William with suggestions that the Underfire Royal could step down in the next six months citing his terminal cancer diagnosis. The king might have to stand aside, and I genuinely have a way out for him, which is to say that his medical situation is the reason that he's doing that. We will all know it's for the good of the royal family, and they start with a clean slate with William and Kate. What do you make of that, pal? Yes, I mean, a number of people have suggested that. I've suggested that myself. I think it may be the only way to clean up the stables and start afresh. I don't think King Charles is going to survive this.

I don't. I think he'll be gone with. Within six months, I think that the official line will be. It's due to his health. He'll use that. Yep. And William will ascend to the throne, which is what the British people want. Now, we've got to be honest that this situation is not normal.

And that's why the king's silence will not hold. We currently have the Australian Prime Minister just today publicly publishing this shocking letter. Dear Prime Minister Stama, in light of recent events concerning Andrew Mountbatten-Winzer, I'm writing to confirm that my government would agree to any proposal to remove him from the line of raw succession. I agree with His Majesty that the law must now take its full course and there must be a full, fair and proper investigation. These are grave allegations and Australians take them seriously. I'm here to the throw. Now admitting in public that he is certainly not keeping. keeping calm and carrying on in what is an historic emergency for the monarchy.

So as there are now even calls for Andrew to be treason in Parliament. In my digest next, I'm going to look at what Charles knew and how he can attempt to survive this growing calamity. We're then joined by the former head of Royal Protection, Dai Davies, who is now calling for a full public inquiry about what the disgrace jutes officers really knew and what was covered up. Also breaking today is Galane Maxwell? Andrew's ex, even in prison at all, after this video, appears to show her in Quebec, Canada. See, look at that. Goodness me. What is going on there? And was the Galane giving evidence? Really Galane? Well, I'm going to ask the superstar panel today, joining us for the first time. Celebrity Chef and Social Commentator Jameson Stocks, the UK's number one political prisoner, free speech advocate Lucy Connolly and Reform UK's campaign manager for Kensington and Chelsea and host of the brilliant news show UK now, Kesea Noble. Also coming up on the show today, GB News forced to apologize over Laila Cunningham's neo-Nazi claim about Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain, as reforms London Merrill candidate, loses it in two new media appearances, including storming off Pear's Morgan uncensored when questioned about the Epstein files. I'm going to show you what happened there. And did you see this? The BAFTAs plunged into woke warfare as a Tourette's row explodes over the shouting of the N-word during the

movie awards. By the subject of the acclaimed movie, I swear, this is a really extraordinary story. I'm going to take you through it all later. Then in the uncannceded after show on Substack, Megan Markle's twisted plot to use the Andrew Mountbatten wins a scandal to rewrite her narrative when it comes to the British Royal Family has just been rumbled. So we're going to team up with the Royal News Network. That is over on Substack. After the main show, you can sign up to watch at www. outspoken.live. We'll also reveal the first greatest Britain and Union Jackass before the end of the show. Here are the union jackass nominees from our superstar panel today, but you can vote right now in the live chat on YouTube. So Hannah Spencer is nominated by Lucy Connolly for her false

virtue signaling fasting in solidarity. Nonsense Muslims are laughing at her no other. Muslim expects a non-Muslim to fast in solidarity. Similar theme, Zach Polanski, nominated by Kesea Noble for his recent policy ideas he announced today regarding allowing people to openly support Hamas and terrorist organizations, and on the royal theme, Sarah Ferguson, nominated by Jameson's stocks, because instead of checking into one of the world's most expensive well-being clinics, she should actually be checking in to HMP Brickston. Well, don't rule that out yet. Seriously, there's a lot more to come on this story.

Keep your comments coming in throughout the show. I will read out the best before we go today. But now, let's go. King Charles remains in hiding today. we haven't seen the monarch since his planned London Fashion Week appearance in the hours after his brother Andrew Mountbatten wins his arrest. And Buckingham Palace hopes this keep calm and carry on approach will hold. Well, I can tell them then it's not going to hold. Every time the royal family has tried to cover up the Andrew scandal involving Jeffrey Epstein,

the situation has got worse. silence simply doesn't cut it. Especially when you have the heir to the throne, Prince William, admitting at the BAFTA's last night, that he's anything but calm, as the entire future of the British monarchy remains at stake. Goodwill, I haven't watched it. I don't.

Good, William, you shouldn't be in quite a safe. calm. But I have to say, I feel for the guy because the Prince of Wales has tried desperately for seven years to wake his father up to the perilous risks involving trying to cover up for Andrew to no avail. And now we're in the mortifying and unedifying and, as I say, historic position where Commonwealth countries, our allies, are going public to insist that Andrew who remains eighth in line to the throne, be removed from the line of succession. He's written a letter to Keir Stama,

in which he has said, Dear Prime Minister Stama, in light of recent events concerning Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, I'm writing to confirm that my government would agree to any proposal to remove him from the line of raw succession. I agree with His Majesty that the law must now take its full course, and there must be a full, fair and proper investigation. are grave allegations and Australians take them seriously. So just to reiterate, that is a letter

that the Australian Prime Minister has now written to Kirste Starma. I repeat, silence will not hold your majesty. Back here in the United Kingdom, even the mainstream media's shaky union with Buckingham Palace is showing cracks. With Jeremy Kyle, another big time royalist, another big time monarchist, going on Talk TV this morning and advocating for the king to go in this discussion with entitled author Andrew Launy. I think it's so bad that the king might have to stand aside. And I genuinely have a way out for him, which is to say that his medical situation is the reason that he's doing that. We will all know it's for the good of the royal family. And they start with a clean slate with William and Kate.

What do you make of that, pal? Yes, I mean, a number of people have suggested that. I've suggested that myself. I think it may be the only way to clean up the stables and start afresh. I think the king is compromised by his association with Andrew. I think there has been a cover-up. I think he knows a lot more than he's saying. Launy has said the king must speak out in regards to what he knew.

Being asked today about what the royal family themselves knew and what they were hiding. And I do think that the king does need to say, what did he know, When did he know it and what did he do? Because this crisis is getting very close to the throne itself. And I think there are a lot of wider questions, for, for example, all those civil servants and diplomats, all those sort of people who wouldn't talk to me said they weren't interested, who were actually covering for him as well. So I do think this scandal is going to just get bigger and bigger.

Yeah, bigger and bigger. I mean, Launie has also raised questions of money laundering using the royal family. I mean, the easiest way to launder money is to, I'm afraid, have dealings with the royal family because all their financial dealings are completely secret. And, for example, we know through a BBC investigation recently that the money that was paid to buy Sunning Hill, the marital home, which was sold for £3 million more than the asking price with no other bidders, and with it no interest in it for five years, it was named derelict, that money was used to launder money.

into this country. So you think that the former Prince Andrew, Andrew Mountbatting, Windsor, has questions to answer about whether he either himself or certainly enabled money laundering to take place in the UK? Yes, I mean, you know, that was all done through secretive trusts. I don't think that the proper checks were done by his lawyers in the way that would happen for anyone else. And I think, you know, in the past, we clearly had one rule for the royals

and another for everyone else. The Daily Mirror's resident Republican Kevin McGuire reported today, bit not said out loud as preparations are starting for a state funeral and coronation in, I'm told, 12 months. No wonder William Mountbatten Windsor isn't calm when he faces questions about what he knew about his uncle Andrew and could soon inherit this crisis. Well, Maguire, let me tell you, William's hands are clean, okay? Don't you worry about that? sadly I can't say the same thing about King Charles. In America, where the King is preparing to make a historic state visit, the positioning is hardening. Watch Daily Mail columnist Maureen Callaghan with my friend Megan Kelly.

I don't think King Charles is going to survive this. That's what Dan Wooden said. That's what Pierce Morgan said. Like, I trust those guys. They not only are, you know, a very famous British general. journalist. Well, Dan's in Ozzy, but he's been living in Great Britain. But they covered the that was their beat for many years. Like they have very good sources inside. And neither one thinks that King Charles is going to survive this. Holy cow. I think he'll be gone within six months. I think that the official line will be. It's due to his health. They'll use that. Yep. And William will ascend to the throne, which is what the British people want. Frankly, what every sane person

wants. Yes. And he will begin to clean house. In quite an extraordinary move for the pro monarchy newspaper, the Daily Mail then published this column from Maureen Callaghan. She wrote, if the monarchy is to survive, there is only one solution. King Charles must go. That might sound excessive, unprecedented even. But the current crisis engulfing the crown is grave indeed. Andrew's arrest, the police, unannounced, rousting this disgrace former prince from his bed at 8am is surely not the end of this scandal. It may only be the beginning. The revelations to come, the sordidness, the potential criminality and who else might be implicated, pose an existential threat to the future of the British

royal family. It's what William is said to have been warning about, to nearly no avail. Convincing his father to strip Andrew of his titles, which was formally announced on October the 30th, 2025 took an ultimatum. William absolutely loads Andrew and has for years, a well-placed source says. If the Prince of Wales had his way, he would have had Andrew banished. He told his father it's either him or me, so Charles had to step up and ice Andrew out. As one former royal aide put it, Charles is now Elaine Duck. Recall what the late Princess Diana said in her panorama interview in 1995, once she was manipulated into giving under false pretences, but one in which she spoke the unspeakable. Charles, she told the world wasn't up to the top job. At the time, her criticism was

taken as the business of a scorned wife. 31 years on, Diana was right. Well, look, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. But to think that Charles can go on, with his business, without addressing this deluge, is now more than naive. It is a death wish. These are extraordinary times. And for the monarchists and royalists who say I'm a traitor, I say you are missing the point. Would you have been advocated? I advocating, excuse me, for the Nazi sympathiser, Edward VIII, to stay on the throne 90 years ago? No, I didn't think so. And we've got to look at just some of the damning new headlines of the past 24 hours, which include the fact British taxpayers were forced to pay for Andrews massages as a trade envoy.

Oh yeah, I'm sure given his track record, they were all completely above board, right? Just for his bad back. Some MPs are now calling for both Andrew and Peter Mandelson to be investigated for treason. That includes the ex-secure. Ex-security Minister Tom Tuggenhardt, who is calling for a special committee to probe their links to Jeffrey X. Epstein. Mr. Tuganhart told the son on Sunday, this affair raises urgent questions about foreign influences and national security. What did the palace know? what did ministers know what else is being hidden.

This goes beyond what a court would reasonably consider. Parliament must consider what it means for the country. If the worst has proved, do we need to revisit treason laws written 700 years ago? And I've obviously just mentioned Peter Mandelson, and I want to bring you some breaking news just in. In the past few moments, we have learned that Peter Mandelson has now been arrested. I have just received a statement from the Metropolitan Police, and I'm going to bring it to you in full. officers have arrested a 72-year-old man on suspicion of misconduct in public office.

He was arrested at an address in Camden on Monday the 23rd of February and has now been taken to a London police station for interview. This follows search warrants at two addresses in a London police station. the Wiltshire and Camden areas. So just to repeat, Peter Mandelson has now been arrested. That has been confirmed by the Metropolitan Police and we will bring you more on this story very shortly. But let me repeat, this is not normal. And what is going to emerge about what the King knew, especially in regards to the 12 million pound payoff to Virginia Dufray, which the observer is reporting Charles is making available to police by granting access to all his files

and all of his records at Buckingham Palace, despite courtiers' fares of a cover-up, and palace officials worrying that opening up the documents for investigation could reveal that senior royal staff turned a blind eye to the former Prince's activity. despite all of that, the king is still trying to keep calm and carry on. I mean, no sugar Sherlock that he knew. I mean, we have actual proof of that from the mail on Sunday,

where emails show that Charles was warned about his brother's secret deals. Isabel Oakeshott and Glenn Owen reporting that King Charles was warned as long ago as 2019 that the royal family's name was being abused by Andrew Mountbatten-Winsers Business Associations. In a bombshell email, a whistleblower told the palace that the former duke had secret financial links to controversial millionaire financier David Rowland, who was abusing his royal links. Messengers seen by this newspaper also appear to show that Andrew, who was sensationally arrested on Thursday, over suspicions of misconduct and public office, allowed Mr. Rowland to effectively join in with his official duties. The emails said H.RH, the Duke of York's action suggests that his royal highness considers his relationship with Roland more important than that of his family.

The whistleblower then sent a second email to Mr. Rowland himself, copying in Clive Alderton, Charles's private secretary and Mark Bridges, the late Queen's solicitor at Farrow and Co. The message said, the evidence provided unequivocally proves that you have abused the royal family's name. And in the same newspaper, there was this. A British ambassador warning the government more than two decades ago that Andrew Mountbatten wins his behaviour as a roving trade ambassador was damaging his country. And the royal family. Diplomatic papers leaked to the mail on Sunday revealed that Andrew, who was recommended for the role by Mandelson,

who has just been arrested like his mate, caused deep concern among officials within weeks of starting work. Patrick Nixon, then ambassador to the United Arab Emirates, said of the then Duke of York's visit to the region in November 2001, I was particularly alarmed by some crass and offensive remarks about Saudi Arabia and its oil, which he made to distinguished Emirates. So I repeat, this is not normal. Indeed, Tim Shipman, the spectator's highly regarded and deeply sourced political editor reports Buckingham Palace is terrified, with the potential for the misconduct and public office investigation he is facing to get worse.

And Shipman's reporting really is worth bringing to you. His man with his snout in the royal rose bushes informs him, they would like to see Andrew tried and convicted and sent to prison or tried and cleared, because that would at least draw a line under things. And Shipman says this is fairly extraordinary. Central to their concerns about Andrew is that the accusation of misconduct and public office, which refers to his time working as a government trade envoy, may only be the tip of the iceberg.

During the time he was a trade envoy, he also held senior rank in the Royal Navy, the Army and the RAF. People are asking what he could have passed on. The source close to the Royal Household also said there's a deep concern being voiced around Whitehall that the stuff we have seen so far is about civilian and political discussions. But we know they are still trawling and there could be a military dimension.

the sheer scale of what might emerge is enormous. The royals are known to keep excellent records in their archives. The ultimate concern is that the king might be asked to give evidence against his brother or asked to recall if he was ever aware of his activities as a trade envoy. Worse still, if Andrew were found guilty, what if it transpires that the government of the day had known what Andrew was up to with state secrets about trade and had warned Charles he did nothing. It has been assumed that there is a consterned,

constitutional bar to the Met quizzing the monarch. But as the Buckingham House watcher notes, constitutional conventions are not law, they are habits. There is no legal bar to the king being interviewed by the police. One minute, it's impossible to strip Andrew of his honours, and the next minute the king is mood in public and they're gone in 15 seconds flat. It's not a constitutional crisis. It's a crisis of trust. And that's before we get to the calls for an inquiry into how far the Andrew cover-up implicates the deep state, specifically involving Royal Protection Officers, who it has been reported, were asked to guard Epstein's dinner in New York. From the Sunday Times, two Royal Protection Officers from Scotland Yard appear to have been told by

Epstein's staff to guard the door of the Manhattan Townhouse as guests, including Woody Allen, attended the dinner in honor of Andrew Mountbatten Windsor in 2010. The suggestion that Met officers in effect acted as bounces for the convicted paedophile will be acutely embarrassing for Britain's biggest police force, which has failed for many years to charge anyone in connection with the Epstein scandal. It is also likely to raise further questions about the leadership of Peter Loughbara, the former head of the Mets Royal Protection Squad, who is now one of the King's most senior aides.

Now, remember none of this has been a secret, yet Andrew was protected. Can you have a nickname at that time? Well, his official code, so if he was to come into the palace, he would call it. His call someone was Purple 4-1. But he did have a nickname,

but it's a bit rude for me to tell you when I'll tell you, but you're not going to be able to air it. It was just called, do you want me to tell you? Yeah. It was called the cunt, plain and simple,

because, unfortunately, he upset everyone he'd come across. He was the most unpopular memory with a royal family while I was there. And he was just rude, arrogant. I mean, his sense of self-entartlement was breathtaking. So I repeat, none of this is normal and silence from the king will not hold.

Now, the superstar panel. So we are joined today by Dai Davies. He is the ex-head of Royal Protection calling for this full public inquiry. alongside Jameson Stocks, Kesea Noble, and Lucy Connolly. But first, since we have been on air today, the most extraordinary footage has just emerged. I want to come to this straight away.

This is Peter Mandelson, being arrested, being led out of his home today. In the past few moments, as the Metropolitan Police confirm his arrest. Let me bring you this statement in full. Officers have arrested a 72-year-old man on suspicion of misconduct in public office. He was arrested at an address in Camden on Monday the 23rd of February and has been taken to a London police station for interviews. This follows search warrants at two addresses in the Wiltshire and Camden area.

So let me bring Di Davies in immediately on this. Di, can you hear me? Yeah, hi, yeah. Hello, Di. Sorry, I'm rushing around today. No, I can imagine. Well, look so great to have you on. Obviously, we will talk to you about your demands for this inquiry into Prince Andrew,

but I just want to ask you your reaction to this quite extraordinary and public arrest of Peter Mandelson by the Metropolitan Police in the past few moments. This is on the same allegation as what Prince Andrew, ex-Prince-Prince-Andrew was arrested, suspicion of misconduct in public office style. Was this expected?

I think it was expected and people have been asking why it's taken so long. But in fairness to the police, they have to lay down the foundation of any allegation and ensure that at least they're sufficient to warrant an arrest. And then once they've got that in place, no doubt they have a set of questions

that they will put to Mr. Mandelson with the allegation of what he's alleged along with Andrew what they've both been up to in different ways, perhaps, but sometimes colluding, as some would allege. Yeah, and is there any link, die? Is there any direct link between this Andrew arrest and this Mandelson arrest? Well, I imagine they would be whether they have that now, I don't obviously know. But going on from what we know from the public disclosures and their friendship.

And it's going back to many years ago now, nearly 20 years ago, or more. And their collusion is alleged on a number of projects. at home and abroad. And some of the people they both have been mixing with cause one concern if you are alleging. And I think very carefully, like Andrew, they have to move carefully, but they have to go step by step. And no doubt they have been trawling a variety of different agencies and disclosures to try

and ensure at least now they have sufficient grounds, as I say, to arrest him and then take him to a police station and start a preliminary investigation. I can't imagine this will be the first of many interviews and clearly he will have legal advice, etc. I mean, Lucy Connolly, this is an iconic picture, is it not, iconic images? I mean, here's Mandelson, the guy who lived his life in the public eye, but always thought he was going to be safe, being arrested like this.

I guess it's the ultimate fall from grace, your reaction. That just tells you everything you need to know about our system, doesn't it? The fact that you can behave in that manner in his job, in the position that he holds, and he feels that he's safe, that he's untouchable. You know, that speaks volumes to me. Kezi Annoble, your first reaction to the arrest of Peter Mandelson? Well, he deserves it. I mean, if somebody has that privilege of becoming an MP, a politician,

and actually has that opportunity to have a positive impact on the people of this country to help change things, but then takes advantage of the system just to make some extra money for themselves, and he deserves it. James and Stocks, what do you make of these quite extraordinary images? is this all taking place, this arrest in the glare of the spotlight. It's quite extraordinary, really. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think he deserves it personally.

I think if you're in a public office and you're treated in such a manner, I think he deserves it and hopefully he goes to prison. Di Davies, is there, I mean, you've just heard the reaction, right, from the superstar panel. Is there risks here, given the public nature of this arrest of their being contempt to court? Like, can Peter Mandelson receive a fair trial if he were to be charged? Well, I think that's a fair question. And with all of us, we have to be guilty that we're not trying anybody in the media.

But in fairness, the media have shown a great deal of alleged. behaviour, which is fair now that the police, but I said yesterday and the day before, I think, it's time to let the police get on with it. But there are huge questions for others now, particularly as he's under arrest. Who else aged and abetted him? The same way I've been asking about Andrew. Well, exactly, is this the start die of the thread being pulled? Because there are going to be a lot of people who are watching this today and saying, oh, How typical that I've gone for Mandelson and I've gone for Andrew on the misconduct in public office claims,

yet nothing to do with the sex trafficking allegations at this point? Well, in fairness, I'm not sure if Mandelson is accused of sex trafficking as such. What did he know? Did he witness some of this? And some would they be impossible for you not to see what was going on if you were a regular visitor at the numerous six of them, I think, locations and including Paris. So it beggars belief to me that those very high ranking so-called VIPs all went to this island and nobody saw anything.

And the same with Andrew. So questions, as I've been saying, quite modestly and fairly succinctly, which isn't been answered by anyone so far, what's the audit trail going back to 2000? as far as Andrew is concerned, the palace knew jolly well then when that picture was pictured, sorry, photograph came to light. And they put in a whole crisis management team, it is alleged, to actually deal with it. And the same man who did that was alleged to be Mr. Perkins, who's alleged to have found the dirt. Now, you have to ask the question, what does it take for police men and women to actually investigate things these days?

They didn't even interview Andrew, as far as I know, or I'm not sure they did Perkins. So, you know, you can't just nowadays say, well, we don't see anything in this. In the same as I said going back to 2019, you know, two British subjects actually were involved with illegal trafficking, and yet they didn't interview them. Is it me or shall I give up? Well, indeed, Di, you have been absolutely at the forefront of this, and you must be delighted to see the Sunday People newspaper yesterday actually putting your call for an inquiry on their front page.

But can you just outline exactly what you are now demanding, Dai, as the former head of royal protection? Well, I'm demanding now as a very private citizen. I didn't see that and I didn't know that had gone out. but anyway it matters not in one sense I'm merely saying given that the establishment at every level have known the truth for a number of years

at every senior level from foreign secretaries to officials in the palace they're now telling us we were upstairs collecting fairs at the time you worship we didn't know anything well that clearly isn't true and I move forward to the late queen and others who advised it.

They must have known. And unfortunately, we're still going around the bushes and roundabouts, and nobody's getting a grip of it. And that's my call for an independent, because who do you now trust at any level in government? Because they're all, to me, appear men and women of straw. I don't have any confidence. Look at the Prime Minister.

He and others appointed Mandelson. Why would anybody trust his judge? And you move down the pecking order. Why would anybody trust them? Lord Hague, as he is now, knew about this back in 2011, because he was told allegedly. And where do you stop? And, Di, can I just clarify exactly what you're asking for the inquiry to cover? Are you suggesting that potentially the Royal Protection Officers working for,

or then Prince Andrew, who we know after Friday the Metropolitan Police are now actively asking to provide information. Are you suggesting that they could have been involved in the cover-up? Because if you look at the Sunday Times reporting from the weekend, for example, die, they're saying that these officers were potentially guarding the door at Epstein's property as other celebrities entered? Well, I read, and I'm aware of that one, what I've said was that if the officers were there

because there was specific threats, and they felt that the door was the best place to place themselves to counter any threat, then I could understand why. If, however, they were just behaving as lackeys, allegedly, for anyone other than the prince, then clearly their question to be asked. But the bigger question to me, and I've said it this morning on Radio 4 and others, was why did nobody alert the authorities here or in America that he was visiting a paedophile? Before any royal goes anywhere in the world, you do a reconnaissance and you do the checks on who he's staying with or she and so on and so forth.

Yet this doesn't appear to be done because they stayed there for nine to ten days. And again, he lied on that interview saying he was leaving the name. day. Apparently, and I haven't been there, you haven't been there, but it was like a railway station and the people moving in and out were very young and girls. So come on, somebody get a grip. Di, I now suggest that this is a major crisis for the British Royal Family and that King Charles's silence on these matters, a keep calm and carry-on approach. simply isn't going to cut it. I mean, we had Prince William last night at the Bafters admitting he's not calm at all. Now, you're someone who knows how the royal family operates more than

virtually anyone. What is your advice to them at the moment? What is the best way that the royal family can navigate this situation? And do you agree with me that this idea that Charles can just say nothing is for the birds. Well, it's very sad because the vast majority in this country still want a monarchy who can be trusted. And I get no pleasure in asking these questions. And really, I'm only asking them in support of Andrew Lowney, who I've worked with for a number of years before this all bring out on other matters because he's a historian.

And I'm not a fraction in his league. But I do the history of attacks on the royals. and so I know him to be a man of sound judgment, I trust his judgment, and I respect his judgment. He has done so much work, but throughout this period of research has counted nothing but negativity from everyone, including palace officials, he tells me. So it's in support of him, and he's been incredibly courageous. He will take on the establishment and has done, and he's been rebuff. and indeed some of his associates have been, as it were, told to back off. Now, what I'm saying is, if I can't at my age, and I have a moral compass,

it may not always be right, that if I can't support what is obvious to so many in this country, and I was grilled this morning, as I said on Radio 4, and I said it there. Now, Radio 4 is listened to by government and others. when will somebody in government make a statement, when will government stop pussyfooting around with taking him away the eighth in line? That's so minor. Compared to what is alleged of trafficking

and now all the allegations against Andrew, to me, that's who puts it into, you know, who cares in one sense, because he's been stripped. Now, as for the king, he's not very well. And I am concerned as a human being that this must be having a problem.

dreadful effect, no matter what he did or didn't know. So at the moment, I think we best less things lie. I wouldn't want this to hurry up any aspect of his health. And of course, all of us wish him well. But again, it's quite clear they are under strain as a royal family, particularly those who have known for such a long time what really went on. And why did they collect 12 million to give to a woman you've never met, et cetera, et cetera. So I feel sorry in one Can you foresee any scenario where King Charles could be forced or choose to abdicate over this situation and pass the throne on to William whose hands are clean in all of this? Well, it's not for me to suggest what the king should do or indeed the Prince of Wales.

What I do know, this is a sticky wicket and if it's not sorted and handled properly, and I say again, where is the government? where is somebody going to get a grip of this in one shape or another? The problem now with all these committees and all the documents allegedly going to come out about Mandelsohn and there may be others, it's in a difficult place now because you've got two active police investigations and 10 other forces actually looking at trafficking as well. So we should care as humans for the royal family,

but we should also for the victims who've been put through a nightwear and called liars and all kinds of things and so my sympathy I'm afraid to say

goes with victims Well that's the thing because I've had a lot of people say to me Dan you're not being fair on the king this is a process it has to play out

and of course I believe in that I believe in innocent before proven guilty more than most people but the problem that we've got here die as I also know that for 15 years, the British deep state, the British police have covered up this story and have done everything possible to resist opening and investigation. And the fact that there are now 10 investigations open proves that point. So the problem is, if there hadn't been a

cover up, there would have been due process 15 years ago. And Andrew could have cleared his name 15 years ago if indeed he is innocent? Well, it's a point you make. And again, nobody gets any satisfaction, but we live in a society now where people want to know what's going on. And you and I can't control that. But if you're asking me an honest question,

and I have a duty to reply honestly. And the truth is, who the hell am I? At the end of the day, I'm just a private citizen getting on in years, but I won't be cow-cowed by anyone from not telling the truth as I see it, not only as one of my former role, but I've investigated crimes all over the world

for a variety of different issues ranging from murder to missing persons to all kinds of things. So what I'm trying to say is I'm looking at this, very simple, because I'm fairly simple individual, look at it as an investigator. Where would you follow the trail? I'd follow the money trail. I did when I took on the sultans of Brunei's brother-in-law,

who he frauded a client of mine, and that's a matter of record. We put that to Scott & Yard and the Crown Prosecution Service. After a year on investigation and they came back, we haven't got jurisdiction. So, royals, some of them are not above the law, what they are in one sense, but others are not. And if I find that there's evidence, and what I'm asking very simply is for the police to go about the evidence. Don't do anything else. Nobody's asking you to do other than question those now. And don't be put off because they're sir this, sir that or lord, whatever. Go after them if you think they've got evidence and they can provide you with evidence of bad doing any way it takes. That's all I'm saying. Di Davy's very, very important to say that. Thank you so much for your company. And of course, there is only one royal who is above the law and that is the king himself. It is his court. So if it would be. who don't know that, the court cannot be tried, the court, sorry, the king cannot face

justice, but everyone else can. Everyone else can. So, DiDavis, thank you so much. Can I just make a last point? Please, please do. Yes. The trouble is he's surrounded by people over the years who apparently given him advice. It's now turning out, allegedly, that advice isn't so good. And their defence could well be, well, I told the king. So that leaves us in a cundrum, does it not? I think it does. And this is why I do foresee a situation where in the next six to 12 months, we could see King Charles abdicate. It is an extraordinary situation. Of course it is.

But there we go. And, you know, Davey's, thank you so much. We will keep on it, of course. And thank you so much for your company today. I want to return to my superstar panel now for more reaction on this. Kesea noble, can you see a way for King Charles to stay on the throne with all of this going on? Yes, I can. I'm not a royalist. I mean, it doesn't mean that I want the monarchy to be abolished or anything like that. I think it's good for tourism. But yeah, I can't see him going anywhere

quick. So yeah, he'll definitely stay. And do you think that's the right thing? As I said, I'm not a royalist. I always find that any of these kind of stories about the royal family is just a distraction from what's really important. But look, I'm very, I'm very actually detached from all of this. There is corruption in the royal family. There's corruption in nearly every kind of establishment where there is power involved. So for me, yeah, I think he's going to stay. Is it right?

Is it wrong? It is what it is. That's the royal family for you. Everyone loves the royal family and everyone always gives them an excuse to do whatever they like. I find I don't feel that they are held under the same kind of scrutiny as other establishments. And they are an establishment. But yeah, I mean, they abuse power just like any establishment does.

James and Stokes, what's your view on what should happen with King Charles now? I think that he'll stay in power. I think he'll stay at the head of the firm. He's more of, I think he'll stay personally. I like to see William that I think that he'll try and sit it out as much as he can. You know, it's not his fault, his brother. And, you know, I think he knows a lot more than what he's let on. I think a lot of people want to know the truth.

I think he's holding back certain things, but you don't pay people £12 million for, or $12 million for no reason. Lucy Connolly, do you think King Charles should stay on the throne? I mean, it's not about what I think, is it? But I think he will. And I almost feel sorry for William, if he does abdicate, because, you know, William's only quite young to talk.

take on, take the role as a king on. And I feel that he should, you know, kind of get to have a bit more of a life with his family before he has to take that role on. So I kind of hope in some ways that he doesn't. But, you know, I think it'll be for the public to decide, really, won't it? In some ways, you know, and it's such a shame because I'm not a realist, but I'm well aware that, you know, people look at the UK and in all of our world family and it brings in a lot of Tory. and a lot of money. And it's just like in this country right now, we're just going from one crisis to the next.

And this is just really not good, is it, for the UK and the look of the UK. You know, everybody looks at the royal family, like, you know, puts them on a pedestal. And, you know, this is, well, it's just horrific for the UK, if nothing else. And it just makes this look ridiculous yet again. So I'm just going to repeat the break.

news for those of you who are just joining us this afternoon. An extraordinary scene in Camden, North London, since we came on air today with Lord Mandelson, Peter Mandelson, the man behind New Labour, the man who effectively operated as Gordon Brown's deputy prime minister, being arrested and put into the back of a plain-clothes police car after allegations of misconduct in public office. That was the same crime that saw Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, arrested in Haldon police custody

for 12 hours just last week. A statement from the Metropolitan Police immediately confirmed the arrest. Officers have arrested a 72-year-old man, on suspicion of misconduct in public office. He was arrested at an address in Camden on Monday the 23rd of February and has been taken to a London police station for interview. This follows search warrants at two addresses in the Wiltshire and Camden areas.

Now, in the half hour before Mandelson was arrested in those extraordinary scenes, it had emerged that the first tranche of files related to Mandelson's appointment as the UK's ambassadors to the US will not be published until early next month. And even then, we're told many will be hold back because of this ongoing police investigation.

Chief Secretary to the Prime Minister, Darren Jones, told the Commons that officials have been going through documents related to Mandelson. He said the government will release documents in tranches as and when they are ready rather than at the end of the process. While the government is unable to confirm how long that process will take, they expect to be able to publish the first tranche of documents very shortly in early March.

But he said one of those documents is subject to the ongoing Metropolitan Police investigation into Mandelson, and so would be released at a later date in consultation with the police. And this is what infuriates me, you know. We are constantly in a position where information is being withheld from us. us. And very often, I believe that we see officials and the British deep state hide behind contempt of court laws that simply do not exist in other countries. You said that you would release the documents Stama. Just do it. You are the prime minister of this country. And you are actually protected by parliamentary privilege. So I'm sick of the delays. I am sick of the cover-up.

I want to see all of these documents now. It won't stop the police. allowing this investigation to take its course. But I'm just so angry with the constant and consistent cover-ups by the British deep state, which by the well, why, is completely putting the British royal family at risk. I'm just so angry today because we all knew. We all knew about Mandelson. Yet slippery Stama gave him that job. We all. knew about Andrew, but Prince William has been ignored for seven years. And I do think this is the start of the unraveling, but that footage today of Mandelson, the guy who thought he was above the law, the guy who thought he would always be protected, the guy who thought his connections

meant that he would be treated in a different way to all of us mere mortals is done. That way of living is done. We are sick of the establishment. And actually, when it comes to British politics, only an anti-establishment force now that rejects all of this, that vows to lock up all of these scumbags, will I think have success. So of course it's extraordinary.

And of course in some ways, I mean, at the moment, I can see feedback coming in from the United States of America where people are saying, well, this is amazing. the UK is actually arresting these people. What have we done in America about Bill Gates or Bill Clinton or whoever it happens to be? But what I would say is that this has taken 15 years. And there was a cover-up. And it's not one of those cases where the cover-up is worse than the crime,

given the allegations of the crime against women in the Epstein files. But we will keep on this breaking story, of course, today. Gleine Maxwell, who is so central to everything going on with the Epstein Files and Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, is now at the centre of a major mystery about whether she is even in prison at all. And that might sound crazy, but there's a couple of pieces of evidence that I want to show you. And I do so saying that, of course, lots of people will say this is very far-fetched. But first, there's this video. Rumored to have been filmed in Quebec, Canada, although some folk now claim that it may be as a result of AI.

You be the judge. Watch. Gieland? Do I know you? You want to Gieland? No, sorry. No? I used to order a hell of pizza offer for... Oh, really?

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't look like AI to me. And when people have been doing face swap technology on this, that absolutely looks like Galeen Maxwell's face. I mean, the weirdest thing is that the dude right next to her looks extraordinarily like Gailene Maxwell's brother. And if you just keep watching here, you'll see that they did actually do the percentages. of the face match and it was incredibly high. So that prompted Darth Powell to say she's not in prison. Danny Roscoe asked the question, Galane, don't I know you? Well, she looks more like Galane Maxwell than whoever is in prison. Have Maxwell and Epstein been located? Because of course,

lots of folk now saying Epstein could be hiding out in Israel. Roscoe later added, earlier I posted a video that looked like Galane Maxwell. I'm told it's not her. Then would you believe it? The other person she was with is a dead ringer for her brother? What is going on? Liz Churchill added, this is wild. It looks like her. AI says it's her and it also looks like her brother.

The prison that Galena's staying in should do a DNA test to settle this. I'm certain she knew she'd been sent to prison for her crimes and likely planned ahead. And Francis Boulaye actually asked Grock to give him a more detailed analysis looking harder as if you're an advanced facial recognition software. And Grok replied that simulating advanced facial recognition on the photos, the eye shape and spacing is a 94% match. The nose is a 91% match. The mouth and smile are a 93% match. The face shape is an 89% match. The eyebrows are an 88% match and overall there is a very strong likeness with a probability of 90% that it is the same person based on visual metrics alone. So that's the first

piece of evidence. The second is of course what happened when Galane Maxwell gave evidence. Just a couple of weeks ago, you might remember this deposition hearing. She made it clear that she was prepared to help the American authorities, but only if they gave her clemency. If Trump gave her clemency. And that was Gleine Maxwell during that deposition. And everyone is saying, what the hell? Like, seriously, that looks nothing like her. That's not the same goddamn nose. Watch this. There's some debate online on whether this is Glein Maxwell, or is this Glein Maxwell? Or are they both Glein Maxwell? And in the spirit of investigative research, I decided, hey, you know what? Let's line up the photos.

Let's take a close look at him. And let's try to be as objective as we can possibly be trying to steer away from any kind of pitfalls of cognitive bias. So what I did was I put this photo in Photoshop along with two other known photos of Galane Maxwell. The first thing I did is I put yellow dots where her pupils are. And then I went from the very top of the ear to the very top of the ear, which skirt it. right underneath her eyelids. And the reason I did this is I wanted to line up the pupils especially, but I tried to line up the pupils and the ears as well as I could. And when I got all three photos in place, there were two things that jumped off the screen right off the bat. See if it's as noticeable

to you as it was to me as I show you an older picture of Galane Maxwell before she went into prison. what's the first thing that jumps out at you and screams, hey, something ain't right here. I'll tell you what it was for me. Number one, it was the nose. The nose! The nose! Seriously! Okay, let me bring my superstar panel on this.

Jameson Stocks, Keziah and Keziah Noble, and Lucy Connolly. Lucy, I mean, is that the same woman? Even say that first video. was AI, what's happened? I mean, you've just been to prison. I presume you're not offered cosmetic surgery behind bars. It's not the same goddamn nose. No, do you know what? A few years ago, I just said you're absolutely off your rockers for even suggesting that, you know, it wasn't her and she wasn't in prison. But the way things are now, the corruption that we're, you know, we're aware of now, I don't write anything off now. You know, I would never, I would never,

dismiss anything. I mean, the rational part of my brain says this is ridiculous, this is AI, you know, but then you have to ask the question, why is she the only person that's been charged and allegedly sent to prison for this whole scandal? I mean, that's what, you know, surprises me the most out of all, everything that's gone on, all the people involved, she's the only one that's gone to prison. It's, that's bizarre to me. But then on the other hand, obviously, I, had the whole sigh up thing. Lucy Connolly didn't go to prison.

She wasn't really in prison. Oh, you didn't even exist. Lucy, you weren't a real person. Yeah, and all of this. So, yeah, I'm 50-50 on this one. I think, you know,

anything is possible right now and this, the way things are. But I'd like to think that she was in prison and we hadn't been duped and that wasn't her. But who knows?

I mean, James and Sox, it's a weird one, isn't it? Because like, Lucy, in the past I would have dismissed this out of hand, but then you compare the noses in that recent deposition hearing with all of her previous pictures and it really doesn't look like the same woman. No, it doesn't.

I totally agree. I think that a few years ago, you'd be thinking it's a little bit crazy story of this, but you just never know. I think the most craziest part about the story is why is she in Canada? she could go anywhere. In Quebec? You know, yeah, it's a bit crazy really. Who knows? It could be her.

It might not be. Kesea Noble, what do you reckon? Like Lucy, I'm 50-50. You know, I love a good conspiracy theory. Because they all come true, Kesea. See, I say I don't use the term conspiracy theory anymore because I'm like, actually, you just have lies and you have conspiracy theories which actually end up being truth

in a few weeks or a few months or a few years' time. It's just a matter of time, isn't it? That's a difference. But the flying the ointment for me is that she's in Canada. If I was running away from this, I would be like in an island where you'd never find me, right? Like, why is she not in Israel? Because there's so much like links to Israel and all this.

Maybe that's a conspiracy theory on top of the conspiracy theory. But I certainly would not be in Canada, that's for sure. And plus, that video of that woman, I mean, looks like a bloke. Does anyone else see that that looks like a bloke? That does not even look like a woman, the one that's posing to be her. Not that one, the other one, when she's in court. Oh, the deposition.

Yeah, I mean, that just looks nothing like Glein Maxwell, does it? It just looks nothing like her. And speaking of that thing, how your view can change over a certain number of years, do any of the three of you believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself in jail? Do any of you believe that he committed suicide? No. No. This is extraordinary, isn't it? Extraordinary.

But probably when it first emerged, you thought, oh, maybe, maybe. it really does show you, I think, how quickly things are saying. And look, I'm going to share something just in jest now, but you know it's one of those memes going around. Have you seen it? I'm sure you've got it on your WhatsApp. The royal family is said to be devastated about Prince Andrew's car crash next Wednesday. Now I'm joking, okay?

It is a joke. It is in jest. But the point being, we are very suspicious. and I think we do have a right to be very suspicious because there are reasons that the deep state want to cover these things up. And I think we just need to look at this footage which is obviously just broken

in the past hour of Peter Mandelson being arrested outside his home in North London, something that until recently we believed would have been almost impossible to think we are in game-changing times. I mean, Maya Toosie of Toosy TV has posted in the past few moments that more arrests are expected. So absolutely fascinating times. Galane Maxwell, I've got my doubts.

But there's a simple way around this, by the way. And that's what I always like. I want to propose a simple way around these things because all the prison needs to do is DNA test the person who's in custody and match it to. the real Galane Maxwell, and then we would know. But I want that to happen, and I am calling on that to happen, because at the moment, there are too many question marks about what happened to that woman in that picture. Now, what is going on with Reform UK's London Merrill candidate, Leila Cunningham? Because I have to be honest with you, this woman has been losing the plot now for a number of weeks, And it started, I believe the day she received that nomination from Nigel Frudge, the gig that she really wanted.

And she immediately went to the sun and described me as being far right. Yes, me. I mean, how nuts is that? But all of a sudden, her rhetoric has become more and more insane. Her way of presenting herself has become more and more, I'm just going to say it, unhinged. And over the weekend, it actually left. to Leila Cunningham, forcing GB news into an apology live on air delivered by its weekend presenter Dawn Niesom

over claims that she made about Restore Britain's Charlie Downs in terms of neo-Nazism. Watch this. One of our panellists that claimed a spokesperson for Restore Britain said in a recent interview that if you are not white and Christian, then you are not deemed to British. To clarify, the spokesperson actually said that Britishness relates to ancestry and Christian. faith, amongst other things. Restore Britain has said that its immigration policy has been

mischaracterized. They strongly object to the comparisons made by the panellists to neo-Nazism and said, wanting an immigration system that serves the British people is in no way neo-Nazi. Well, and it's not. A reminder, this is what Leila Cunningham had earlier said that prompted that apology. I mean, they're talking about, if you're not white and Christian, in this country, you're not British, right? They're going back to some kind of, like, neo-Nazi-Aryan race. If you're not white, I mean, I've heard their spokesperson on talk TV and on TV saying, if you are not white and Christian, then you're not deemed to be British.

And you know, that flies in the face of wanting integration and assimilation, because no matter how much you integrate or assimilate, according to them, you will never be British. Well, look, I mean, they're not here to defend themselves right now, but the bottom line is there might be people in their party who say one thing who don't, but that might not be the party line. So that prompted an apology, and Restore Britain did say that it was pleased to see that GB News had issued a clarification regarding reform labelling Restore Britain as neo-Nazis. But their legal team are still taking steps against Laila Cunningham because this disgusting smear led to a credible death threat.

And Charlie Downs himself responded saying, will she now do the decent thing? and retract and apologise herself. But she hasn't. And I have to say for GBC News, this whole thing was always really bizarre because, what, were you hiring a neo-Nazi three months ago? Yes, Charlie Downs, up until very, very recently,

was the host of this podcast called Radio Britannia on GB News. Watch. Hello and welcome to Radio Britannia with me, Alice Grant. And me, Charlie Downs. This is the first episode of our new show, and each week we're going to be exploring the stories and issues which don't get much of a hearing in other parts of the media. So this is the madness in all of this, right? Do not tell me that G.B. News thought that Charlie Downs was a neo-Nazi and put him on air three months ago.

A lot of this is party political. But Lela Cunningham is losing the plot. I really do mean that because when she went on Plank of the Week, Talk TV's Plank of the Week, you would think she would be a little bit chastened and would realize, oh my God, I've made a real mistake here. Instead, she doubled down, prompting senior sources in Reform UK to tell me that they think Layla Cunningham may even end up being removed as the London Merrill candidate if these car crash interviews continue. Watch. British people are not going to vote for a party that only believes you can be British if you are white and Christian.

I have a second. I have a second. Rupert-Lode didn't say that. A 17-year-old kid said that. No, Charlie Downs has been on your show. He said that. He didn't say. He said the word values.

So if you don't follow Christian values, you are not British. Is that what you're saying? I'm not. I'm not. I'm not saying. For me, that's how I took it and interpretive. That's not what I said.

The praises of most of our laws. and you know Christian traditions. So yes, he is kind of right. We kind of live in a secular government. How well is that going? You're saying we're not secular? We should not be secular? Well, I don't think we are.

I think this is the point that I'm bringing to the front is that yet we have religion. We're not a secular state. You wonder? Well, we are. No, we're not. We are.

We don't have people of... It's a fact. We're not a secular state. We have a state religion, therefore we're not a secular state. The difference between a secular and a non-secular. We don't have people of the church. But we are not a secular state.

Iraqis, we're not. People of religious faith, of either way, in this country, do not hold positions of government. That's what a secular state is. No, no, we are a second state. We're not a secular state. The monarch is head of the church of England. Yeah, but they do not have any governmental power.

They are, it's his government. He has governmental power. He's a constitutional monarch. He's not just there, Fred. Hello, everybody. Hello. The middle of, for instance. I'm the host.

Do you remember me? I'm Kevin O'Sulliver. Charlie Down's posted after that. I actually can't believe she's doubling down on all of this. Layla has once again asserted that I said you have to be white and Christian in order to be British. I have never said this on Talk TV or elsewhere. And this is not restore Britain's position. If you want to know where we stand on this matter, look at our page. Reform have again shown themselves to be incapable of engaging in good faith debate. Instead resorting to name-calling, truly pathetic.

They should sack whoever is briefing cunning them to say these things dreadful messaging, strategy. Nevertheless, perhaps Cunning and I should debate these issues directly, one-to-one, in person and put this whole thing to bed. Dan Wooten, what do you reckon? I love that idea, and I immediately offered outspoken as the platform from which to do it. By the way, I would happily agree to rules on that, because I would appreciate that I would need to stay impartial and would give Leila and Charlie the opportunity for a five-minute opening statement. Not surprisingly, Layla blanked me because really she only wants to appear in her safe, propagandised spaces of GV News and Talk TV. Nick Dixon added, after that appearance, difficult to see the difference between Leila and a typical leftist.

Attacks the right, attacks Christianity, gets basic facts wrong, shouts a lot, it's all there. From Jess Gill. It's shocking that she doesn't know Britain is a Christian country. We have a monarchy bishops in the House of Lords and the Church of England. an absolutely shocking display from reform here. It's almost as if Christianity makes her uncomfortable. But I just think Layla's very uncomfortable full stop at the moment

because she also decided to make a very awkward appearance on Pears Morgan Uncensored. This was her first time on the show. But the moment another guest raised the fact that Nick Candy, Reform UK's treasurer, is in the Epstein files. she walked off. Watch this. Why is that no problem? Why is somehow Muslims a problem?

I'm not going to sit here. I'm not going to sit here and argue with this guy who has no idea what he's talking about. I'm Muslim. I know millions of Muslims like me. And we do not like radical Muslims coming in here and getting... I don't like...

He can't... He can't go and visit... The treasurer of your party, Nick Candy, is in their... Epstein files. Did he know Galane Maxwell? What's your response? And, and, has he done any wrongdoing? And what's your response? And, has he done any wrongdoing by being? The question is open. He met him for a business deal. Right. We're not talking about, number one, we're not talking about Nick Candy. We're talking about immigration. How is that related? Of course. You cannot argue your

argument. So you're picking on random stuff that have no relevance. I got to go by Piz. That's exactly what you're doing. What's doing? Seriously, what does she do? I'm not surprised that I'm getting all of these messages coming through to me saying she's not going to be on the ballot for Reform UK by the next election. She is losing it. To my superstar panel, Jameson Stocks, Lucy Connolly, and first to a Reform UK candidate, Kezia Noble. Keziah, I mean, can you defend this bizarre performance from Leila Cunningham? What is going on with this lady? I can't speak directly for Layla. I know that she works incredibly hard and she wants what we all want, essentially.

I wanted a Christian country, actually. She doesn't seem to want that. Okay. So I'm like you. I'm actually not a Christian, but I believe that this is a Christian country. And I've made a point that I would even, you know, in my wildest dreams, I would like to see the Sunday, Sunday. Sunday shops closed, actually. And this is definitely a Christian country, so I'm with you on that. However, I think what we need to do right now, rather than calling each other names, is to focus on what we have in common, what restore voters and what reform voters have in common. We both want low tax, we want safe streets, and we want near zero immigration. We want very, very low immigration, and we want to get foreign illegal migrants out of the country.

We need to focus on this. And this is why I chose reform, because it's very important this. Reform have made this conversation palatable. So if you took about five years ago and even look at Zia Yusuf, his speech today, he would not have even been allowed to have made that speech five years ago. So what reform have done is they've made it palatable this conversation,

and that's really, really important. I have nothing. You say you want to focus on the similarities, but she's the one who is going on air and describing Charlie Downs of Restore Britain as neo-Nazi, prompting an apology from GB News. So this nastiness is coming from your side, Kesey, I have to say. It's coming from your woman.

Completely. As I said, me personally, I would be focusing on what unites us because I like Restore, voters. They want the best for this country, as do reform voters. Our enemy are the Greens, our Labor, and to a certain extent, the Conservative Party, and we're fighting amongst each other and we're calling each other names. And it's, it's, you know what? Labour and the Greens are laughing at us. They're laughing. Okay. But then Layla Cunningham went back on. So she'd already

made that mistake. G.B. News had to apologize. Then she went on Plank of the week. And try to say that we were a secular country, which is patently untrue, literally the head of our country is the king and the king is the head of the Church of England. So for a lot of people, Kezi, are like me who don't want Leila Cunningham to be the mayor of London because we don't think that a Muslim can do the job that is required, look at that and think, well, suspicion proven right. She doesn't believe her a Christian country. I cannot speak for Leila directly. obviously, but I think if you say secular, it could mean that it's not a very religious country. So even though it is, you know, that we have the Church of England, which is essentially in

charge of this country, I understand. And it is fundamentally a Christian country. I think maybe, maybe, again, I can't speak for her. What she was trying to imply is that this isn't a very religious country. But she was yelling and everything. What was that about? Sorry, say that again. She was yelling. and it was all very unedified. Well, she works very hard. I mean, this woman is really... So she's exhausted?

I don't know, but I know that she wants the best for this country. And then the Pierce Morgan interview, Kizziez. Can I come to that? Sorry to interrupt, but I wanted to ask specifically about the Pierce Morgan interview because, look, I'm no fan of Pierce Morgan, right? I think the guy's a scumbag. I actually watched... He blocked me.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, me too. I watched this exchange and he's got hard leftists on, American hardlift. It was actually a really revoked. revolting thing. However, Layla should not be walking off a show like that. It's unprofessional, Kesea. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. She should have been able to fight her corner there. And it was very telling to me that the thing that actually prompted her to walk off was in regards to Nick Candy, being in the Epstein files. Now, that was a mistake for her to walk

off Piers Morgan like this, wasn't it, Keziah? So three things that I can mention here. First of all, she did answer the question. They brought up Nick Candy and she said, you know, what does he done, basically? She can't see that he's done anything wrong. So do you think it's okay for someone to do a deal with a convicted child sex trafficker? Is that okay? No, this is out of my jurisdiction. I've not been briefed. I have no idea. No, but just on a personal level, is that okay? Is it just cool because it's business?

It depends if you knew they were one or not. Well, everyone knew. I don't have the... Everyone knew. He'd gone to jail. Everyone knew. I mean, this is the disgusting thing about Manny, about Epstein. Everyone knew.

Everyone knew. He'd gone to jail for child sex trafficking. Everyone knew. But everyone still went around to his health. Everyone still did deals. I mean, I've watched Nigel Farage been interviewed about this, and he seems to think it is fine because it was just a business dealing and Nick Candy does business with lots of people.

But I just wonder if you think that's okay. You know, if it's a business deal, there's a business deal. I mean, look, I don't have the facts. I'm really sorry. I wish I could elaborate more on that. I don't have the facts. I have not been briefed. But can I just make my other two points?

Please, please. So, you know, you have to remember she's a Muslim woman. Can you imagine how many fatwas are on her head? You know, she's speaking out, she's speaking out against Islamists. She's speaking out against Muslim immigrants. coming to this country. Can you imagine how much pressure she's under, how much hate she's getting from the Muslim community?

I'm sure there's a lot of Muslims that agree with her, but there's a lot of Muslims. Maybe that tells you that she's back in the wrong religion there. But you can be a Muslim and you can still be British and you can still do the right thing. You know, she's not an Islamist. So she is sticking her head above the water here. This is, you know, she was put in the lion's den there

with a lot of what I consider us, Three of those men are vicious. Totally. Totally agree with that. I mean, two of them, I think, are just appalling apologists for the seventh of October, Massif. Totally. Totally. Now, I don't know the circumstances.

Maybe she left because she kept saying, I have to go somewhere. I don't know. She's got a lot of children. Who knows? Personally, I would have stayed. I like to argue things through. Totally. It wasn't a good look.

No, I appreciate. And see, that's the thing. I appreciate that we've had this out, Kesea. James and Stocks and Lucy Connolly are listening along. Lucy, I mean, I know you like reform, you also like restore, but surely Layla Cunningham has gone too far now describing someone like Charlie Downs as neo-Nazi. I mean, it's beyond the pale, Lucy.

Yeah, I have to agree with that. I mean, I am ordinarily a massive fan of Layla's. I love her ability to debate. I love her ability to put people in their place with, you know, facts, etc. I think she gets the better of people most of the time. And I love that about her, that she's a strong woman. I love the fact that, you know, she's a lioness mother and that she, you know, and all of that. So a lot of her resonates with me.

However, it is not acceptable to be calling people neo-Nazis and stuff. And actually, members of reform, you know, should know that. You know, Nigel's taken a lot of flack and been called a, a lot of names as have other members of reform. And, you know, it's not nice to be on the receiving end of that. And it is dangerous. You know, when, you know, there's been another assassination attack on Trump this week, hasn't them, President Trump.

Exactly. A young man arrested going into Mara Lago, looking like he was plotting some attack. You're completely right, Lucy, because the problem is these smears are the type of smares that will now be used by the left against Reform UK. So don't immediately reach for the same smears when someone has a policy difference with you. James and Stocks, from a sort of media performance point of view, do you think Layla Cunningham is getting this right or getting this wrong? Because clearly she's going down the sort of aggressive and I'm going to argue and I'm going to fight

and I'm going to walk off type of route. But is that working for her? I mean, I've seen a lot of people say she seems very unlawful. like a ball and what do you make of it all? Well, I think it looks quite weak, to be honest, with you walking off. I think she should have stayed on. She should have fought a corner, got a point across, you know, put some people in the places.

I think from a reform point of view, I think she's quite on the front foot anyway. I'm not quite sure Nigel would like the whole quotes and stuff what she's been saying, but I think she's been on the front foot for quite a lot while. I think that she and nothing she'll change. I think she's got it completely wrong

in regards to what she's said. Me too. Does it make her a bad person? No. Does she need to kind of maybe rein it in? Yes. But reformer here to, you know,

they're here to stay and they need strong people. They need people who are going to fight the corner. You know, but maybe she was just advised wrong. Who knows? But I do, I certainly think it makes a little weak

by going on the Piersmore show and not fighting a corner. And, you know, she could have really gone to task with quite a few of the people on the panel there. And she lost the opportunity, which I think, again, was quite poor. Yeah, no, I totally agree. It was a real missed opportunity that I really, really agree. Wow.

Have you seen this one? Woke leftists have descended into one of their most shameful meltdowns yet. as a guest at the BAFTA Film Awards, who suffers from Tourette's syndrome and inspired the brilliant film, I swear, shouted the N-word while two black actors took to the stage. Now, I'm going to explain all of this to you, but first, this is what happened. Okay, so that was Michael B. Jordan and Dillroy Lilley, Littenden. who we saw on stage and they look shocked. Totally understand why they look shocked, right? Someone had just shouted the N-word while they were presenting the gong. Like, that must have been weird and you would have been wondering what the hell is happening. But once you find out what's

happening, then surely you move on. Because the person who was shouting off camera is a really good guy called John Davidson. He is Tourette's Syndrome activist. And he was attending the award ceremony because he inspired the movie, I swear, which was up for multiple awards that evening. Indeed, the lead actor in the movie who played John Davidson actually beat Timothy Chamorley to the best actor award. And I've watched this film and it's actually highly emotional because what it teaches you, although it's a great watch too, it's really entertaining.

It's not woke, nothing like that. I really enjoy it. And what's great about it is you do learn about Tourette's. And the thing about Tourette's is people with Tourette's syndrome shout out the most inappropriate thing possible, and they have no control over it. So the movie shows that when John Davidson was about to receive his big award from the late Queen Elizabeth II,

he even shouted just before that ceremony. And there were multiple times that Davidson did yell things out experienced ticks during the BAFTAs last night. And it did lead to this year's Uber woke host Alan Cummings, apologising. Watch. Tourette's syndrome is a disability and the ticks you've heard tonight are involuntary, which means the person who has Tourette's syndrome

has no control over their language. We apologize if you were offended. So the whole point of this movie, I swear, is to try and teach people to understand that actually we shouldn't take offence from someone with Tourette's. So like if someone with Tourette's was in this studio right now and shouted out, bastard,

I couldn't take offense from that. It didn't necessarily mean that they thought I was a bastard. They probably did though. But you know what I'm saying, right? It didn't mean they hated me because they're shouting the thing that is inappropriate. That is the syndrome. And the whole movie is about how people didn't understand

the syndrome in the past. And I never really understood the syndrome. but watching the movie was very interesting. But the hard leftist race baiters who like to believe that they're all about tolerance in their woke little world have decided that John Davidson, who up until last night was being treated as a hero by the left,

is now some type of vile racist. Step forward, Narenda Kaur, who posted on X, I'm sorry, this is wildly unacceptable on so many levels, mostly from BAFTA. We can all understand he has a condition, but this is subjecting Jordan and Lindo to racial trauma, which everyone needs to understand is unacceptable on every level. The fact that they apologise to the BAFTA audience publicly, but not directly to Delo,

Lindo and Michael B. Jordan continues the tradition of prioritising white comfort over black trauma. And then there was Grace Randolph who said, Tourette's means no filter, which means this man thought it. Despicable. The BAFTA is out here. making fools of themselves and the entire entertainment industry. Can I just point out, I don't know if I'm the only one who sometimes sees the hypocrisy here. Like, virtually every song I hear includes the N-word. So if it was in John Davidson's head,

doesn't make him a racist. But who is one of the worst people in the United Kingdom, who you just knew was going to be all over this like a rash? Dr. Race Beta Shola Watch. Let me say this in plain English, because I'm not speaking Latin or Swahili. John Davidson is a racist white man with Toritz syndrome. And let me break this down for you. Toritz syndrome is a disability.

Disability is not racism. And it does not make you racist. The Torit syndrome simply brings out what is already in the heart, mind, and so of the person speaking. Because as a man think it, so is he. The word nigger is not a... Torres syndrome condition. It is a racist condition. That word is in John David's bank of vocabulary and all the torrents did was bring it out. Oh, I know what it's like to have intrusive thoughts, but the moment those intrusive thoughts become

actions or words, the impact is real. For those of you woeful and willful ignoramus out there, racism does not require intent to be racist. It doesn't matter if you meant to be racist, you did it with depraved indifference or it happened because you have a disability. The racial impact on black people as they watched Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lido being racially abused on the global stage was instant because we all knew exactly what they were thinking, what they were feeling, why they switched on and kept on moving. We knew what it was. We were in that moment with them. That in fact is freaking racism. She just said it. She just said the word. And she's wanting this dude with Tourette's to be cancelled.

Remember, these are meant to be the compassionate and understanding ones, but obviously if you're a white guy with Tourette's or autism, you're evil. But it wasn't actually just the usual leftists here, American actor Jamie Fox. Apparently, let Rip on this, commenting on Instagram, out of all of the words you could have said, Tourette's made you say that. Nah, he meant that shit. Unacceptable. Well, after the outburst, the BBC have apologized again and removed the show from iPlayer and they say they will re-editist. to remove the racial slur from the broadcast, which obviously means the entire purpose of this movie, this brilliant movie, has just been defeated to my superstar panel, Keizier Noble, Jameson, Stokes and Lucy Connolly.

Lucy, that's so desperate to brand people racist that even a condition of, like Tourette's, which I thought the woke mob were meant to understand now, is thrown out the window if they can call a white guy racist. Yeah, I mean, stop taking offence where there's no offence to be had, for God's sake. I mean, give your head a wobble. You know, if you or I had been on the stage and we'd shouted out the own word, fair enough, you know, we know what we're doing. But he doesn't. He does have a condition, a proven condition.

And let it go. Stop trying to make something out of everything. You know, we could have, I wish I'd have gone to the bookies last night, and we could have put money on Narinda and Dr. Sholo or whatever her name is, you know, piping up, couldn't we? I mean, it was a given. They had to have their 10 pence worth at that one. But, you know, he wasn't there to cause offence.

He does have Tourette. That's it. There's no story here as far as I'm concerned. Let it go. Yeah. And the thing is right, I'm more than happy not to use the word. Gesea, I have no desire to use the word, would not use. the word, but it is ironic when it's like you're literally using the word in every song.

Dr. Scholar is using the word in the video. You know, I don't really believe in a two-tier society. No, I have to disagree with you a little bit here. So first of all, I don't think that the man who was shouting this out is racist. He obviously has a condition. So that's my response to that point. But it is a trigger word for black people. All four of us, we're not black.

We don't know what it's like to have someone say that word. We're detached from that. Okay, so it's obviously a trigger word. It obviously upsets black people. If they call each other that, maybe that's something that is acceptable to them. But obviously, if a white person's shouting it out, it can be offensive. Again, I do not think that man is racist, but I do think that they should have cut it out because it is an offensive word.

It is. And I understand it's in rap and hip-hop and black people call it to each other. I believe that from my understanding, it's about taking away the power from that word and what its original meaning was behind it. And that's why they do it. And I just think, like, we should, I just, I don't like racism at all. And I do feel that if they'd have just cut it out and that would have been fine. It was a moment, somebody with the condition.

But then if you're cutting it out, and look, they have now cut it out because there's been this big backlash. But clearly the reason they didn't cut it out in the first place is because they're trying to be all woke around the issue of Tourette's syndrome and say we've got to be accepting of these people with Tourette's syndrome. Yeah, woke on woke, isn't it? Yeah. You've got a big mess.

Yeah. But I just find it weird, Kesey, that you think it's totally fine for one group of people to say a word, but it's not fine for another group of people to say a word. I mean, I just feel that leads to so many risks. I thought it was ludicrous that John Terode, for example, was cancelled for singing along to some song that included the... N word when if you're black, you're allowed to say that word all the time. I don't agree with that.

Fair enough, but I'm not a black person. So I can't go, I can't explain to you what they feel when they hear that word. Well, as I say, I don't say it. I don't say it. I don't like it. But I just feel like they shouldn't say it either, you know. I think that are other races of people. I know Jewish people call each other names and they would find it very unacceptable if

somebody else used certain term. I won't mention it here. Yeah, but I think that's ludicrous too. Okay, fair enough. That's what we'll agree to disagree, I suppose. Okay, James and Stokes, your view on this one. Well, first and foremost, the movie's actually great. It is great.

It's good to highlight the effect of Tourette's. You're completely right. I think that Michael B. George really needs to kind of grow up here, really. I think if he gets too offended by someone with a disability who doesn't know really what he's saying, you know, the fact he's thinking and saying it's not actually how it works. It's, you know, it's definitely not a racist person. I can assure you for that.

And, yeah, I think it's just, if it has been on a different network, for instance, I don't think it would have been such a big issue. But, you know, maybe the BBC should have muted it or kind of cut it out slightly. But, you know, you can't really help it, to be honest with you. Well, no, and that's the point. And he doesn't mean it just because, he's saying it. And look, it's not often I actually recommend one of these critically acclaimed movies these days

because they are usually very woke, right? Aren't they always? And that's why this movie, I swear, was so good because it wasn't woke. It was just a brilliant, feel-good story about John Davidson. Now the actor who played him, this young Brit actually beat Tim. Timothy Shalamey, who had brought Kylie Jenner. Yeah, Robert Arammo, that's his name. There he is with the real John Davidson. And he had actually bought, you know, his Kardashian girlfriend there and then

was beaten by this young dude from Hull. You know, it was such a brilliant story. It was such a brilliant feel-good story for the BAFTAs. And what are we talking about racism? Of course we are. Do you remember a few years ago? There weren't enough black winners at the BAFTAs, so they changed the rules. Well, last night, I mean, large majority of the awards seem to be won by non-white people. And so they can't moan about that. So now they have to find another reason to moan. By they, I'm not talking about non-white people.

I'm talking about the hard left campaigners like Narinda Kor and Dr. Scholar, who I think do want to bring division to this country. But look, stand by Superstar Panel, because we're going to find out who is. the winner of our union jackass poll in just a moment because of course all three of you have nominated. But first, let's get to your comments today. Lots coming in on the whole King Charles situation. Jules Gamer, Grandma says what on earth do you expect King Charles to say? There is an investigation and he cannot compromise it. Give him a break. Let the investigation take its course and I think he will say something.

I know lots of you have said that to me. Obviously I explained why I disagree. Carleen 4737 says, I hope we are all aware that we're all aware that we're not. Mandy and Andy won't be visiting prison, especially in this corrupt country. So that's interesting because, of course, as we've been on air, Peter Mandelson has been arrested today. Gastriac sleeves says no more titles and privileges for Andrew's family and Harry's family. This has gone on for far too long. Stop it now. Or the people will revolt.

Thank you so much from, oh, for my super chat from Margarita, who says, greetings from Malta. pseudo-feminist should learn what a true woman of substance looks like. Love you, Lucy. So Margarita is saying Lucy Connolly is a true woman of substance and pseudo-feminists should learn from her. And I couldn't agree with that. Okay, a reminder of today's union jackass nominee. So we have Hannah Spencer nominated by Lucy Connolly.

She is, of course, the green candidate in the Gorton and Denton fire. election, who now says she's fasting, apparently in solidarity of Ramadan. Zach Polanski on a similar theme, nominated by Kezia Noble, but for his recent policy ideas regarding allowing people to openly support Hamas and terrorist organizations, and Sarah Ferguson Fergie, nominated by Jameson Stocks, who has a great line, he said, because instead of checking into one of the world's most expensive well-being clinics, she should actually be checking in to HMP Brickston. Okay, and the results are in.

In third position, oh, sorry Lucy, you were loved by our super chat, but just 11% of people today went for Hannah Spencer. The runner-up, Kesea Noble, with 35% of the vote and Zach Polanski. But the runaway winner of Union Jackass today is Jameson Stocks, who nominated Sarah Ferguson Fergie. She has received 54% of the vote. So thank you so much to my wonderful superstar panel today. Lucy today has nominated our greatest Britain, and it is Maggie Oliver for her tenacity with the grooming gangs and support she offered to the victims of rape gangs.

Look, she is an amazing woman, so I love that choice. Lucy Keziah Jameson, thank you so much for being here on a big day of breaking news, which obviously saw these iconic pictures of Peter Mandelson being led from. his Camden address and into the back of a plain-clothed police car. He is currently in questioning over these alleged offences relating to misconduct in public offers. That is the same offence for which Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, also faces charges. So some iconic pictures while we have been on air today, I thank you for your company. But we are going to move over now to Substack for the Royal Uncanceled After Show.

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