Dan Wootton Outspoken - LABOUR ISLAMIST CIVIL WAR AS WES STREETING ADMITS TRUTH & STARMER'S WIFE WANTS HIM TO QUIT

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Slippery Starmer’s dying Labour Party erupts into an Islamist civil war as the failed Prime Minister’s chief Cabinet nemesis Wes Streeting admits the Muslim vote means he will be booted out at the next election, as Megyn Kelly schools Piers Morgan about how it’s really destroying British culture. Dan can reveal today that miserable Lady Victoria Starmer wants her husband, who is in the midst of his own breakdown, to quit as their marriage struggles to cope with the pressure of Downing Street – and senior Labour figures know it’s only a matter of time. But the legacy media is doing all it can to keep Starmer in charge as a ghost leader while the ground is readied for Streeting, Rayner, Mahmood and Burnham, resulting in the astonishing spectacle of a Labour peer Baroness Helena Kennedy being allowed by BBC Newsnight presenter Victoria Derbyshire to manhandle the Conservative guest Matt Vickers. Meanwhile, Rupert Lowe is also shaming the legacy media, including Emily Maitlis, over their coverage of his Rape Gang Inquiry. We’re joined for the entire show by patriotic YouTube sensation Paul Thorpe. PLUS: GB News tries to poach the woke and wet Iain Dale from LBC in the latest sign the broadcaster is sliding to the left. AND: Some rare good news as Jeremy Vine FIRES Femi Oluwole from the Channel 5 show, as Carole Malone and Bev Turner hit out at the Brexit virgin. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: King Charles facing a new abdication crisis over Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, as his closest allies now call for him to deliver a bombshell TV address as the Epstein scandal deepens. We’ll have all the royal latest with Lauren The Insider. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 423. And breaking right now, Sipri Stama's dying Labour Party erupts into an Islamist civil war as the failed Prime Minister's chief cabinet nemesis Wes Streeting admits the Muslim vote means he will be booted out. At the next election, as Megan Kelly schools Piers Morgan about how it's really destroying British culture. You're trying to make official. This attitude that you in Great Britain have lost your culture. You seated your culture to a bunch of radical Muslims who came in and took over, and now it's gone. We're not allowing that here, whether it's Hispanic, whether it's Muslim.

It's not happening in the United States of America. That's why President Trump was elected. Meanwhile, I can reveal today that miserable Lady Victoria Stama, and I don't blame her, by the way, wants her husband who is in the midst of his own breakdown as he finally appears in public for the first time in days, she wants him to quit. As Prime Minister, as their marriage struggles to cope with the pressure of Downing Street,

meanwhile, senior Labour figures know it's only a matter of time. I think that the round of applause in the Committee of just now was staged, just as all those endorsements of the Prime Minister, which appeared within five minutes of each other, were staged. Yes, he has my support. The government has my support. They have my support when I put myself forward for the by-election. How embarrassed are you by these WhatsApps between you and him?

I'm embarrassed to have known Peter Mandelson. I hope that more than anything else, actually, in those messages, I hope I haven't caused either embarrassment or discomfort for my cabinet colleagues. But the legacy media is doing all it can to keep Stama their man in charge as a ghost leader while the ground is readied for streeting

Rainer MacMood and Burnham. That resulted in the astonishing spectacle of a Labour pair Baroness, Helena Kennedy, being allowed by BBC Newsnight presenter, Victoria Derbyshire, to manhandle her male conservative guest, Matt Vickers. Do you remember this trust?

Do you remember this trust? Do you remember this? trust to me. Just look at me and see Liz's trust was marvellous. So you can do what he wants, then he can appoint whichever person. No, no. But just remember let's remember the full horrors of

being basically, basically totally inept and really absolutely bringing this country to its needs. Rupert Lowe is also shaming the legacy media over its coverage of the rape gang inquiry. Do you remember when Emily Maitliss told him this? Do you not think

Emily there's an issue with Pakistani Muslims raping working class white underage girls. Do you not think there's an issue there? I think there's an appalling issue with grooming. Are you telling me? No. When it hits any community and any age, are you only ever hear you talk about Pakistani.

Are you telling me there's no issue? I'm telling you that you are focusing on Pakistani grooming gangs because probably you're racist. Rupert's brilliant new response to Emily Maitlis coming up. then we're joined for the entire show by patriotic YouTube sensation Paul Thorpe. But first, also breaking today, two boys, aged 12 and 13, have been hospitalized after being stabbed by a teenage boy at Kingsbury High School in Brent North London. Now, the stabbing suspect is still on the loose in London,

and Detective Chief Superintendent Luke Williams, who leads policing in northwest London has released a statement now, saying we recognise that this incident will cause considerable concern within the community. We want to reassure local students, parents and local residents that we have deployed significant resources to the area and are doing everything we can to locate the suspect. Our thoughts with the injured boys, and I want to thank the paramedics and doctors who are providing them with care.

We'll provide further updates when we can. At present, it is not possible to enter all. leave the school site while the response continues. Kingsbury's high school has said. Now, Paul thought it is so good to have you here today, but this is truly horrendous. I mean, we are now talking about the second school stabbing here in the United Kingdom in as many weeks. And in this case, the suspected stabber remains on the loose in London and we're not given an ID. We're not told anything about him. We're just told, oh, it's all going to be fine, Paul. As usual, Dan, we're left in the dark, and, you know, ironically, it comes on the day that, was it, I think a 14-year-old boy has been found guilty of murdering a 12-year-old boy.

Yes. You know, this knife culture that's running through the UK right now is, I mean, I think it's fair, we can say it's at epidemic levels now. It's just every day, and probably what's worse, is the lack of reaction from the mainstream media in general, the lack of outright, the lack of horror. they report it, but it comes, it goes, and tomorrow it's fish and chip wrapper. You know, 20 years ago, this would have been all over the newspapers, but today it's an everyday occurrence. Exactly, this is not normal. We cannot normalize this because the reason they don't want to report it, Paul,

is if you start reporting this, you've also got to start looking at the causes. And we know a lot of the causes are, of course, the failed multiculturalism project and the attempted Islamist takeover of this country. But look, we will keep you updated, as I say, at least no injuries. But the school stabber or the suspected school stabber in North London does remain on the loose. Also coming up on today's show, GV News tries to poach the woke and wet Ian Dale from LBC. And the light as sign the broadcaster is sliding to the left. And some rare good news.

that today as Jeremy Vine fires Femi Olawoli from the Channel 5 show as Carol Malone and Bev Turner hit out at the Brexit Virgin. We'll enjoy that one. Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show on Substate King Charles facing a new abdication crisis over Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor as his closest allies now call for him to deliver a bombshell TV address, a live TV address as the Jeffrey Epstein scandal develops. We're going to have all of the Royal latest on that with Lauren the insider. William has also been heckle. today in Saudi Arabia. Paul Thorpe has also put up his nominees for today's Union Jackat. You can vote right now in the live chat on YouTube. Here are your choices.

Paul's nomination won. Angela Rainer for having the front to think we've already forgotten. Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, nominated by Paul for blowing the chance to unify us. And David Lammy, the deputy prime minister nominated by Paul for saying it took us 14 years to get. here and just months to mess it up. So get voting in the live chat right now. We will reveal the Greatest Britain and Union Jackass at the end of the show. Keep your feedback coming in today too. But now, let's go. Okay, so trust me on this. Slippery Stama is going to be the shortest serving Labor Prime Minister of all time. Having served only one year and 219 days to become the most hated British leader ever, the chances of him catching Gordon Brown, they are non-existent.

He is a failure. He is a broken man too. I mean, look at him today. And let's juxtapose it with that quote from Lucy Powell, the deputy laid of a leader who said, the thing about care is he thrives off pressure. Well, it sure doesn't look that way, Lucy. Stama is now so cucked by the hard left and Islam is running his party that his only priority is survival. to hell with the economy, to hell with the cost of living crisis, to hell with the invasion, to hell with white girls being industrially raped by Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. In the past, his wife, Lady Victoria Stama, who was miserable. And I don't blame her, by the way, after the way she has been treated.

She would have been the one to talk him down. And I can reveal today Lady V is utterly fed up with life inside Downing Street. and their marriage has been close to meltdown on numerous occasions. Right now, she is on the brink. But you don't hear a word about that in the MSM, do you? That said, even the Dead Tree Press now concedes they back the wrong man in Stama. The Daily Mail's political editor Jason Groves declared today the cabinet's belated and frankly unconvincing show of loyalty

has brought Stama a stay of execution only. all it would take is a puff of wind to blow him off now. His defence to the PLP last night was full of more lies. Every fight I've been and I've won, I fought to change the Crown Prosecution Service so it better served victims of violence against women and girls. Tell that to the victims of the rape gang's prime minister. But after days behind closed doors,

this afternoon, too, Tehr Care spoke for the first time publicly at a community centre in Hertfordshire where he delivered a rant on the cost of living as a desperate attempt to distract from the inevitable end of his premiership. Watch. Whatever is going in in the turmoil of politics, has been quite a lot of that going on in the last few days. I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters most is the cost of living. actually paying the bills, getting through, improving living standards, public services that work.

These are the things that matter hugely for people. They're the things that we were charged with changing when we won the election. He then pathetically tried to distance himself from the reality of the satanic British Labour establishment by reminding everyone of his working class background, surprisingly, without mentioning his toolmaker daddy. But I was growing up, we didn't have enough money to pay our bills. And I know what it feels like to sit around the kitchen table worrying about the fact that you can't make ends meet. And that's what people are doing across the country. And our job is to change that.

But I also know it's the most important issue that we must focus on. Because I know what I'm fighting for and who I'm fighting for. Here he goes again. Desperately trying to convince us he's a man of the people. You're not! I'm in that cabinet as Prime Minister, having come from a working class background, to be Prime Minister of this country.

But that's the exception. That is not the rule. Even within my own family. My brother who died last year. He had difficulty. He was growing up. He spent his adult life

wandering from job to job in virtual poverty. This system, this political system, didn't work for him. Stama then insisted he will not walk away, despite the growing pressure that will no doubt break that delusion sooner rather than later. I will never walk away I will never walk away from the mandate I was given to change this country.

I will never walk away from the people that I am charged with fighting for. And I will never walk away from the country that I love. And that is the country, who I truly believe we are, a compassionate, reasonable, live and let live country, a diverse country, where given half the chance will help each other out. That is who we are as a country and I want to serve every single part of that country. The country that I love. The fight coming up in politics, the real fight is not in the Labour Party.

It's with the right-wing politics that challenges that. The politics of reform. The politics of divide, divide, divide. Grievance, grievance, grievance. that will tear our country apart. That is the fight that we are in. And I will be in that fight as long as I have breath in my body.

Well, God help us then. Because you're the person who divided this country, Stama. You divided us when you turned up in Southport. After the massacre of those little girls and you refused to meet the locals and you then turned on the locals. and you then jailed the Patriots like Lucy Connolly for speaking up against you.

You divided this country. Once again, we're in the ridiculous situation where it's foreigners like Elon Musk, who has today described the UK as George Orwell's worst nightmare and my friend Megan Kelly in the US pointing out just how bad things are here. Okay, so you're trying to make official...

This attitude that you have right here is why you're... You in Great Britain have lost your culture. You seated your culture to a bunch of radical Muslims who came in and took over, and now it's gone. We're not allowing that here, whether it's Hispanic, whether it's Muslim. It's not happening in the United States of America. That's why President Trump was elected. Yet in his wisdom, Slippery Stama has decided stupidly, in my opinion, given the real threat comes from Red Rainer the Tax Evader, that wears streeting is his enemy as the party explodes into full-on civil war. Now, because the legacy media like Labor are now doing all they can to keep Stama in as a temporary ghost leader,

while the floor is readied for Wes Street in Angela Rainer, Shabana MacMood and Andy Burdom to get their bids ready. Indeed, last night on the British Passion Corporation's Crooked News Night, we had the astonishing spectacle of a Labour peer Baroness, Helena Kennedy. She's actually embarrassed, to believe it or not, being allowed by the show's presenter Victoria Derbyshire to manhandle. her fellow guest, the conservative Matt Vickers, and divert the conversation about the most serious political scandal in a century to yet another discussion about Liz Truss.

Watch how she manhandles Matt Vickers. It has to mean that you don't give someone who's friends with a paedophile the top diplomatic job in the UK. He has absolutely clearly said that he made a grave mistake in doing that. And listen, plenty of people. made mistakes. Look at the last government. For God's sake, let's not forget the story that went with Boris Johnson in his dishonesty and giving jobs to his pals and all that business. We absolutely haven't. It's just a... Yes, it does come to me as an awful lot of journalists have forgotten

that part of the story. Maybe, maybe, maybe. It's just that Kirstama said he wasn't going to be like that. And the Conservatives' position is still tonight that Kirstarmer should resign because his position is untenable. Is that correct? Completely and utterly. When you, we talk about all these scandals, we talk about the Maya that we're in, but actually it's about. It's about what it means to working people out there. Working people who were told that their energy bills would be down 300 quid and they're paying 200 quid more. 21% more people unemployed

out of work. The damage to our economy, to anybody who gets up early and goes to work, they're paying more and more in tax. While those who don't work are getting more and more in benefits. It's not acceptable. Do you remember, say Liz Trust to me? Just look at me and see, Liz trust was marvellous. So you can do

what he wants, then he can appoint whichever person bypass all the vetting procedures. Don't worry about it. The full horrors of being basically, basically, totally inept and really absolutely bringing this country to it. As Sir Shaddafi pointed out, fair play to Matt Vickers for restraining himself because I have no doubt that if he had grabbed Baroness Kennedy the way she was grabbing him, he'd likely be without the whip this morning. And James Hansen added, why did Helen and Kennedy think it was acceptable to repeatedly grab Matt Vickers' arms during the debate? Also happened during a separate part of the program, if he'd done it to her. I'm damn sure Kennedy would have rightly told him to get off her.

Now, today something really crazy happened. And I promise you, I promise you it's probably going to be the only time this ever happens. I actually agreed with Diane Abbott. Diane Abbott, of course, veteran Labor MP, the mother of the house, but it's no longer a Labour MP because she's been suspended. by the party. What do you think is really going on? I think that the round of applause in the committee just now was staged. Just as all those endorsements of the Prime Minister, which appeared within five minutes of each other,

were staged. And I can't see him lasting beyond May's elections. So why are they waiting until May? Because they're going to be catastrophic elections. And I think the idea is let him stay in there and take responsibility. Right. But I mean, if you're staring at a disaster, why do you wait for it to happen rather than try and stop it happening? Well, it's not down to me.

Andy Burnham put in the most toothless defence of Stama today. But the MSM allowed him to get away with it. Watch. Helia Abrahimi, Channel 4 News. You said you wanted unity and stability. Does that mean Kirstama has your full support to stay on as Prime Minister? And then second to that, a lot of people feel that this government hasn't delivered for working class Britons. That's why they're angry.

That's why Labour is tanking in the polls. How long does the government and Kirstama have to change that? Yes, he has my support, the government has my support, and they have my support when I put myself forward for the by-election, because, as I said at the end, I think you can't take it for granted that the politics that I'm speaking about gets to do what I'm saying today. You have to take on a politics that is seeking to do something very different and break up what has underpinned Greater Manchester's success.

So I do feel a crucial moment, It is absolutely right that people give the government stability in this moment. But Burnham knows, just like I do, that Stama's legacy is one of chaos and perversion. Don't take my word for it, just listen to these damning words from Labour's own Lord Glassman. It's not fascist. Labour was straight with the working class. We won the war. Ernest Bevin is a hero. So yeah, so Labour has to, the government and the Labour Party has to repent and reject new labour. an alien body that took over the potty and this is where it leads.

Perversion and paedophilia. Lord Glouzman, that's strong stuff. Thank you very much your time this morning. Strong staff, but completely true. As for the chaos, as Angus Parsad put it, in 18 months, Stammer has lost two chees of staff, four directors of communications, 11 ministers, including deputy prime minister.

Dan Hodges added, we've reached the point where what constitutes a good day for care, Stama is one in which his communications director, to resigns. His Scottish leader calls on him to resign. His health secretary again accuses Downing Street of briefing against him. Ross Kemsel added, Stama's legacy is now only served by resigning soon or not later. Every day he continues will be worse. He lacks the political capital or resources to rebuild his team. He has no meaningful agenda or vision to reverse this situation. The stupid UK system is working as intended. And I would argue the entire political class is being exposed.

here. Calling out Rachel from accounts specifically eminently Hewitson pointed out, it's striking how swiftly many politicians demanded Boris Johnson's resignation over cake, yet have shown unwavering support for Kirstama after he supported and pointed someone he knew had close ties to a convicted paedophile. So here's Reeves when the Tories were in power. It cannot be one rule for Boris Johnson and Rishi Zunak and another rule for everyone else. They've broken the rules. They've lied to the British people. They both have to go. Here's Reeves now. Rebuilding Britain takes time. But thanks to the decisions we've made, NHS waiting lists are falling, inflation is falling, interest rates are falling, the conditions for the economy to grow are there with carers our Prime Minister we are turning around the country. I mean, I would say no. She's totally wrong. That's not happening, is it? It really isn't. And when it comes to Stama, I would argue once a liar, always a lie. Always a. I want to pay tribute to Jeremy Corbyn who's a friend as well as a colleague.

You wouldn't call Jeremy Corbyn't a friend. No. We have to make the case for freedom of movement. We don't want open borders, freedom of movement has gone and it's not coming back. Cutting off power, cutting off water, secure. I think that Israel does have that right. I was not saying that Israel had the right to cut off water, food, fuel or medicine. or medicine.

Wounded by the media, the sun in this city, a hurt for this city. And I certainly won't be giving interviews to the sun during the course of this campaign. Do you write an article for us on newspapers over day?

Surely that's not giving you any support across the North West. Would you write for them again, Sir Kear? I would do, yeah. Can you guarantee that under your leadership the 2019 Labour commitments to nationalise water, energy, rail, the Royal Mail,

they'll all be in Labour's next election manifest. I've made that commitment. Will you nationalise the big six energy companies? Yes or no? No. No, you will not. By the Home Secretary was the wrong decision and I think it was a rushed decision. In 2019 you said stripping her of a British citizenship

was the wrong decision. She's lost her appeal to regain it. Should she be allowed to appeal again? Should she be allowed back here in order to face justice in the UK? I think the court decision yesterday is the right decision. Labour Party in opposition needs to be the Labour Party in power and a government doesn't go on picket lines. A government tries to resolve disputes. I'm really pleased to be here this morning supporting the staff at McDonald's were on strike. Air quality, climate change is the issue

of our time and as the extinction rebellion protest showed us this week the next generation are not going to forgive us if we don't take action. I think they're wrong. I think their action is wrong. And then we come to West Streeting, who number 10 Downing Street have accused of launching a coup. The Telegraph revealed this morning that Streeting talked to Anasawa on Saturday, the Scottish Labour leader, just two days before his call for care to resign. They are thought to have discussed the current political situation. One left-wing Labour source told the telegraph everyone from the PM down to the most junior bag carrier, knows who was behind the Mick Chicken coup, and his name rhymes with Les Wheating. The McChicken coup appears to refer to the efforts to use the ousting

of Morgan McSweeney to force the PM to step aside. But here's the Civil War, with a spokesman for streeting denying any coup attempt, in turn blaming No. 10 insiders for the briefing, the spokesman said Wes did not ask Anas to do this. He did not coordinate with Anna. on this. Anas is the leader of the Scottish Labour Party. He is his own man and Wes has the highest respect for him. At the same time as Wes was in an interview saying that Keir needed a chance to set out his case and his plan, number 10 was briefing that Wes had told Anas Sawa to make his statement, that is my problem. Gido Forks reported a number 10 source saying, Wes is right to be annoyed at briefing today. There were several meetings today dedicated to

fucking him over. People are trying to find any angle to go after. him even more so than Angela. And they added such as the furious pitch of the war between the Streeting camp and the number 10 team that staff and Downing Street were last night discussing whether to sack the health secretary. Then we come to the WhatsApp messages, right? Which Streeting chose to release independently without the permission of the Prime Minister. But there's something much more sinister in the... text messages, which by the way do show that Wes Triton and Peter Mandelson are definitely gay BFFs, despite these egregious lies, Tube Fribby, on sly news.

I've got these messages here, and I've only just, to be honest, Wes, I'm literally just reading them shortly before you came in, but there is a lot of genuine intimacy here in friendship, you know, Wes, to you to Peter, great pitch, lovely photos in the time Peter sends you a kiss. There's well done on the BBC. This is Peter Mandelson to you in June 25. I'm literally reading them as I go along. Well done on the BBC.

Very good kiss. Are you planning to visit the US this year? You hope so, exclamation mark. Kiss. Are you embarrassed by that? I mean, that's quite an intimate friendship, isn't it? No, an intimate friendship. With Peter Mandelson, I'm very, I'm very happy to.

But there aren't dozens and dozens of messages here. And people can, people be able to read them. What I felt I saw over the weekend was this implication that somehow I had something to hide and that they were going to be very embarrassing or damaging messages coming out. Now, do I, like, do I resile from friendship with Peter Mandelson? Yes, absolutely, given his behaviour and what he's done. Do I resolve from those messages? No.

How embarrassed are you by these WhatsApps between you and him? I'm embarrassed to have known Peter Mandelson. I hope that more than anything else actually in those messages, I hope I haven't caused either embarrassment or discomfort for my cabinet colleagues. As Peter Lloyd said, though, West Streeting said he barely knew Mandelson. Turns out they've exchanged countless messages and signed off exchanges with kisses and emojis that have even discussed holiday in America, more Labour lies. Now, look, I have read all of these text messages between Streeting and

Mandelson, so you don't have to. They are quite clearly close political bedfellows. I mean, I'll give you some examples. In December 2024, there was an exchange of messages about Chris Warmold, who had just been appointed the Cabinet Secretary. Mandelson then said to Streeting, I'm recovering nicely at home now. Wes replied with a kiss, are you okay? There was another message where Mandelson said on the 27th of December 2024, there is no touch of John Moore about you. Wes flirted back. I had to Google him, not too bothered by it. It only confirms what I already know. Delivery is the only thing that really matters and how I will be judged. Then in February 2025, Wes Streeting wrote to Mandelson, I spoke to Roger who suggested you were very much enjoying your new DC life.

Mandelson replied, I am. It suits me. By the way, we have a big problem coming down the track Re-Farmer tariffs. Trump thinks U.S. Farmer not being treated well, wants to out tariffs on EU and UK force manufacturing to US. West Triton replied, ah, yet RFK hates farmer. On the 2nd of March, 2025, there was a discussion about when they spoke on the phone. where Streeting said he was free all day for Mandelson. June 2025, Mandelson sends him another message with a kiss saying, well done on the BBC. Are you planning to visit the US this year?

Where Streting replies with another kiss. Oh, I hope so. And the exclamation mark, Mandelson says, need to plan lots of tech companies and people to talk to. But look, far more telling to me. Was Streeting admitting to Mandelson what I have been reporting for months? and the mainstream media is ignoring. Labor is now moving so hard to the left

because they know they are losing the Islamist vote to sectarian candidates. This message exchange is the most important I want to take you through it. So it was on March the 28th last year when Streeting wrote to Mandelson saying, I fear we're in big trouble here. And I am toast at the next election. We just lost our safest ward in Redbridge. 51% Muslim Ilford South to a Gaza independent. At this rate, I don't think we'll hold either of the two Ilford seats.

Streeteen added there isn't a clear answer to the question why Labour. Mandelson replied, the government doesn't have an economic philosophy, which is then followed through in a program of policies. Streeting added no growth strategy at all. But it was that reference to what they never discuss in public. The fact that there are literally Muslims taking over entire electrics and dominating political ideology. That then caused Streeting to advocate for a much tougher policy against Israel to Mandelson, for example. So what it shows me is that the Islamists are in control here.

And no wonder Stama is now trying to stop the release of further messages, with the mail's Labour columnist Dan Hodges reporting, Today, Weir Streeting at Mr Mandelson, the government has no growth strategy. Like I said, we've got months and months of this to come. The idea Stama can move on from this is for the birds. A cabinet minister told me yesterday, Wes is trying to get sacked. If that's his wish, he's going the right way about it. But all of that doesn't matter.

All anyone should be talking about is the damning indictment delivered yesterday. By Anas Sawa, himself a long-time Stama. ally. I have to be honest about failure wherever I see it. The situation in Downing Street is not good enough. There have been too many mistakes. They promised they were going to be different but too much has happened. Have there been good things? Of course there have, many of them, but no one knows them and no one can hear them because they're being drowned out. That's why it cannot continue. Have you told the Prime Minister about this statement before making it?

Yes, I spoke to the Prime Minister earlier today, and I think it's safe to say that he and I disagreed. And Paul Thorpe joins me now. So Paul Thorpe, while it is very clear that there is an overall civil war going on within Labour, what was so interesting to me in those West Streeting messaging, was the first acknowledgement from within Labor that they are terrified by the Islamist takeover, that they are terrified by the fact

that they are going to lose seats to sectarians in Muslim-dominated areas. And these are conversations that they will only have in private on their own WhatsApp. You know, I would be accused of Islamophobic for saying that, but there's where streeting saying to Mandelson, oh, it was a 51% Muslim electorate, they know what's going on.

They're just not prepared to tell us about it. Absolutely, Dan. I mean, look, we all know what's going on up and down the country. And Labor have got to deal with the resurgence of, obviously, the Greens, under their new guys of whatever they've become in recent months and years. You've got your party. You've got the independence. Whichever way you look at it for Labour and for Keer Stahmer, they're toast.

But I would say that I think that Diane Abbott was actually right. I too agreed with what she said earlier on. I think they're going to hang on to Stahmer. use him as the scapegoat in the May elections. That would be the way forward for Starmour, I think, and the way probably the best way forward for Labour. They've got to have a scapegoat and Starmory is probably going to be here. Paul, how astonishing is it, though, that we have a man who for years

has tried to set himself up as being morally better than us? You know, this is a guy who claimed he was above politics and he was whiter than. and white. And then according to my reporting today, Paul, his own wife, Lady Victoria Stama, is like, you've got to go. You've just got to go. This is a mess. This is a disaster. Our marriage is on the brink. And he says, no, no wifie. I don't give a damn what you think because I need to beat Gordon Brown. I need to not be the shortest serving Labor prime minister in history. That's all it's about. power at any cost to hell with his wife and to hell with the country. I was going to say to hell what a country, Dan. That's the bigger picture, isn't it?

I mean, look, this is a man, as you said earlier on, he spoke about, in his speech, he spoke about compassion and divide. Is that the compassion that he and his government and the judicial system with his interference showed Lucy Connolly, Peter Lynch, God rest his soul. Don't talk to me about compassion, Starmer. My own family is split in half now because of the actions of this Labour Party. And Stama and his Labour government have gaslit this nation into utter depression. I have never known a nation to be so depressed. He's got such a cloud hanging over it.

24 hours a day, seven days a week. The only thing that this man could do right now to give him anything in his legacy worth remembering is the call the general election. 100%. But I think he's proven that he's no different to any politician. I mean, his lies, Paul. I mean, can we just stop this absolute myth that there's something honorable about Stama? Because he used to be the director of public prosecutions.

I mean, as the director of public prosecutions, he failed when it came to Jimmy Saville. He failed when it came to the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. I just think there needs to be a complete rewriting of history about who this man is. He is an evil man. He is a liar. and now he's also proving to be completely power mad as well. Absolutely. I mean, look, Dan, Stama is coming to an end.

But for me, that's not really the bigger picture. The bigger picture here is it's just the beginning for us to chase this man down and ultimately bring him to justice for what he's done to our nation. Stama lost the nation after South Pole. There was no recovery. No recovery for Stama. The moment he called every concern, mum and dad, Nance and Granddad's farm, right and he hasn't stopped since.

His days were numbered, his time was up. But what he's done to our nation, what he's done for the future and the safety of our children, there needs to be a prosecution, there needs to be investigations. There needs to be, for me, and I think I speak for a lot of people watching this right now, then. There needs to be trials. Look, we've got, let me, I wrote this down earlier on then,

and I wanted to get the figures right. We have 404 Labour MPs, sitting in a big house. 187 of them are women, yet 350 of these people voted against a child grooming gang inquiry. Can you actually believe that? And these are supposedly concerned parents themselves. 350 voted against the child grooming gang inquiry. That tells you, that tells a nation everything they need to know about. The leader, it tells you everything to know about the cabinet, it tells you everything to know about.

the cabinet it tells you everything to know about the entire cancer that is running right the way through this Labour government. Absolutely. When it comes to the grooming gangs, or by the way, I call them the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, Paul Thor, what I think has been perhaps the most shocking thing is to see Rupert Lowe, a real hero in my book, I think a future leader of this country go all out on his own independent rape gang inquiry, something that Nigel Farage promised to do and then failed to deliver, but see a literal veil of silence from the elite class and the mainstream media. You'll remember Emily Maitliss called Rupert Lowe racist for even going through with this. Well, all of a sudden there's real egg on these people's faces and they do not know how to

deal with it. So inevitable West pointed out the inquiry into Britain's biggest scandal started more than a week ago. Since then, zero reports from Sky News or sly news, as I call them, zero reports from the BBC or the British Bashing Corporation, zero reports from The Guardian, zero reports from ITV. They are once again trying to cover it up, but the world knows the truth this time. But as I have been tracking Paul over the past couple of weeks, John Cleese has done another Damascene conversion, and this one I'm fully there for, because he's all of a sudden understanding what's really going on with the mainstream media and with Rupert Lowe. And he posted, this is a deliberate cover-up and asked the question, is this what the British people want,

or does that not matter anymore? And I just want to remind everyone of how despicable Emily Maitlis was in her accusations about the motives for why Rupert Lowe was holding the same. inquiry in the first place, what? Why are you doing this? Why are you just trying to talk about Pakistani grooming gangs when there are four times, eight times and ten times as many white grooming gang suspects? Do you not think, Emily, there's an issue with Pakistani Muslims raping working class white underage girls? Do you not think there's an issue there?

I think. Are you telling me there's an appalling issue with grooming? Are you telling me? Any community and any age. Are you telling me, ever hear you talk about Pakistani. Are you telling me there's no issue? I'm telling you that you are focusing on Pakistani grooming gangs because probably you're racist. Well, he has finally responded to Emily Maitliss in, I think, the best way possible.

Posting on X, I have just sat in a room all week. Listening to women described how they were brutally raped by gangs of Pakistani Muslims and how the authorities did nothing for fear of being labelled racist. So please let me be abundantly clear here, Emily Maitliss. You are full of shit. And Rupert Lowe has also taken his findings into the House of Commons, where he directly challenged the Home Secretary Shibana MacMood.

Watch. As the Minister knows, our independent rape gang inquiry hearings ongoing just a short walk from this chamber. Last week, I sat opposite one woman who was raped by between six and seven hundred men. She estimated that 98% were Pakistani Muslims. The evidence we are collecting is brutal. Again and again, we've been told of failed attempts to traffic raped and abused women overseas to Pakistan and elsewhere. Thankfully, those attempts failed. How many did not?

Will the Minister agree to urgently review cases of missing girls in target areas and launch a full state investigation into reports of such trafficking? Justice Secretary. The testimony of the victims that the Honourable Gentleman has heard from is absolutely horrifying and the grooming gang scandal was one of the darkest moments. in this country's history, victims and survivors of these hideous crimes deserve justice, and we will make sure they get it. Our inquiry is a full statutory, independent inquiry with all of the powers under the Inquiries Act 2005

to deliver justice. And I would urge him and anybody else with any allegations of criminality or evidence of criminality should share that with the police immediately. But your inquiry is a joke, MacMood. So as Rupert responded, again on Elon Musk, Right, I want to make this clear. Plenty of people have attacked our inquiry for not having statutory powers. Yeah, we know.

Obviously, we're not the government, clearly, but so what? Honestly, what's the alternative? Sit on our asses and do nothing? Tweet, wait for labour to act? It just doesn't work. Not for this. If what we're doing raises sufficient awareness and stops just one girl from being raped and abused by these Muslim gangs,

then good. I say that is time and money well spent. But trust me, we are aiming for much, much more. our objective is to put people in prison, that is the ultimate aim. And then Rupert Lowe received significant support on that front from Elon Musk, who said, I would like to help fund legal actions against corrupt officials who aided and abetted the rape of Britain per the official government inquiry. Now, where has Reform UK and Nigel Farage been on this?

nowhere since Nigel first offered to host the independent inquiry when it was politically expedient to do so, and then following his fallout with Elon Musk and Rupert Lowe, that went nowhere. But in quite an extraordinary moment, David Bull, the chairman of Reform UK, maybe for not that much longer, actually turned on Nigel during an appearance on GB News. where he has been made the host of one of their shows. But as I say, I can't see him lasting for too long and in either role after he said this, watch. I've heard Nigel Farage talk about this inquiry,

Swet. No, it's really interesting. I hadn't really thought about it. I think also we're just so sort of probably un-overwhelmed by what else is going on that I'm not sure it's been top of his agenda and actually it probably should be. I'm not here to defend Nigel Farage, but actually I think all politicians of all different colours

should actually make sure they come out, the justice is done. You know, also I want to know who knew what and when and why wasn't it followed up? But this should be at the top of Farage's agenda. It was. Rupert Lowe was there. He was doing it. You booted him out of the party and launched a police investigation. But far worse, of course, than what Reform UK is doing is Bushra shake.

You know what I'm talking about, right? clearly an enemy of the people, now actually calling, this is according to Tommy Robinson, but he's completely right, on mass reporting of GB News, simply for reporting on the rape gang inquiry. He says, Thub, no shame. And Tommy has also launched a massive call for more support of Elon Musk's X as well, in light of the reporting or lack of reporting on the rape gang inquiry, writing following decades of the industrial scale, rape, pimping out, torture, even murder of Britain's children at the hands of predominantly Pakistani rape gangs and inquiry was finally brought about, not by the government, but independently by Rupert Lowe and his team, and the legacy media fully ignored it.

This is what you must do. Send all your friends and family this link and a link to X.com. Legacy media must be left to die. Don't let them indoctrinate your loved ones any longer. Boomers may quickly dismiss, but be patient and teach you. them how to navigate, they'll thank you later. Only on X will you find the unfiltered truth and conversations that must happen. Independent journalism is the future. Share your work. And of course, one of those new independent media sensations is Paul Thorpe, who's with me now. Paul, can we just kick off with Emily Maitlis here, though? Because she actually said the quiet part out loud. Like, you know at their dinner parties. Tharroll saying that you're racist and I'm racist and Tommy is

and Rupert Lowe's racist, and that's the only reason we care about Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. But she actually had the cheek to say it on the fake news agents to Rupert Lowe's face. Is he right to now say that she was full of shit? Absolutely, Dan. I mean, they use the old word. I use the T word. They use the word racist. I used the word treason.

And Emily Maitliss would be going on that list of people that need investigating down the line to see what they've been up. I mean, look, we spoke about the main. We're going to speak about the mainstream media ignoring Rupert Lowe's independent inquiry. Then we know why they're ignoring it because they are scared stiff. Not only are they scared stiff and in many ways they are complicit. They have deliberately ignored the rape of our children. And Shabana Mahmood, in her exchange there, in the house, she said this was a scandal. No Shabana Mahmood, this is.

It remains the biggest scandal. Yes. Probably in British history. Such a good point, Paul. They wanted to be historic. It's happening now. It's happening now. Including in London,

where Sadiq Khan said they didn't even exist. Denies it. Denies it. So in every single way that they approach this, they try and put it on the backburn, they try and ignore it. And by the way, where is Nigel Farage on this?

I mean, Rupert's absolutely, he's a marvel for doing what he's doing that I salute him wholeheartedly. But where is Nigel Farage? Where is his broken promises? And I'm afraid that's the same old story. Well, the promise was made by Rupert Lowe and Nigel Farage when they were united and part of Reform UK. And look at what this could have meant. I mean, it does really feel like Nigel is focusing on all of these issues which are so not where the British public is at. I mean, he's had lots of criticism over the past 24 hours for talking lots about work from home. but it feels like he goes wherever is safe.

What do you think about David Bull, though, his chairman coming out and actually criticising him and admitting the truth that this isn't top of mind for Nigel Farage on G.B. News. That's risky of him to do so, isn't it? Very risky. I mean, it probably doesn't matter what we think. It'd be what the Supreme Leader thinks, won't it? And I think you're probably right.

He may not be appearing on G.B. News, and he may even be pushed out. Maybe he's looking for a better alternative. And you know that we have one of those in advance UK. Sorry, I had to get that in. I had to get that in. No, indeed. And of course, it was an incredible policy launch at the weekend.

And I did speak to Ben Habib there. I mean, look, you know my view on all of these parties. I believe, Paul, that there needs to be an equal playing field, certainly from the independent media. I want to give all of these brilliant patriots a platform and then you can talk about uniting the right. But how can you talk about uniting the right? Or G.B. News actually being a true patriotic place

when they ban people like Ben Habib simply because he's the leader of Advance UK. And I have to be honest, Paul, I was a little bit annoyed to see GB News and Patrick Christie's getting so much support for inviting Rupert Lowe back on the station once he's going. completed the rape gang inquiry. It's a bit like he's literally been around for the past year,

desperate to come on your channel, and you people banned him because he's a threat to Nigel Farage. So I don't really think you can pick and choose, Paul, if I'm honest. It's not like you can say, oh, I'm only going to speak about Rupert Lowe in the context of the rape gang inquiry, but then I'm going to completely ignore everything that he does when it comes to restore Britain. To me, that was still gutless. I'm sorry, I had to say it. Yeah, I think, to be fair, GB News of really in recent months, they're not reading the room, are they, Dan?

They're not reading the room. People want to see Rupert Lowe. They want to see Ben Habee. They want to see Tommy Robinson. They want to see people like yourself. But they just don't appear to be reading the room. They'll learn. I mean, the viewers will slowly start to move away.

I mean, look, the media. now, the real place to go for your news now is online, right? Shows like yourself, you know, dare I say, shows like mine. We're speaking the truth where we're telling people the right message. We're offering them the best advice from our hearts. And we're trying to be fair at every possible angle. And this is why I always get so frustrated with Nigel Farage is that he had it all. He had everything in the palm of his hand and he blew it.

And he continues to blow it. And even Danny Krueger was at it the other day. He doubled downing. Double downing. He said reform, just to remind people, Paul, and then I'll let you respond. He said that reform stand against everything that Tommy Robinson stands for. He tried to suggest that Tommy Robinson was an ethno-nationalist, seeming not to understand that most of the criticism of the right of Tommy Robinson at the moment

is because he's not an ethno-nationalist. But the point is if you're saying that you stand against everything that Tommy Robinson stands for, okay, then you stand for Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. And that's their words. I'm just literally taking their words. Yeah, Dan, look, he's even lying or he's very, very stupid, one of the two. And he's not quite. He's not stupid.

Exactly. So he's lying. He's lying to the public. He's lying to the viewers. He's lying to the people. And I just think that then, look, the feedback, I'm sure the feedback that you get, is pretty much similar to what I get. People have just had enough of the bullshit.

Just give us a politician, just give us a party that cares that tells the goddamn truth now and again and doesn't find it so difficult to actually understand what the people are so worried about. We're worried about our children, Dan. We're worried about our culture. We're worried about the very future of the country

where we were all born and bred and were brought up And we're talk to love back in the day. That's all we're concerned about. We're not racist. We don't hate other people just because of their religion. We just want peace. We want calm. But we want Britain.

We want Britain to remain Britain, the United Kingdom. Do you know what's really interesting? When you look at these media moves, very often, they're just a bit of fun. And I always love reporting on them, right? Like this channel is trying to poach this presenter and Nagamuncetti is trying to get a big pay rise from the BBC so she's talking to sly news. That's how it works, right?

I get the game, it's all a bit of fun, we've always enjoyed it. But what I'm about to report to you now, I actually think is a bit more serious than that because to me it shows a really worrying direction of travel for GB News, a station which I was a big, part of launching, I hosted its first ever show, and that I massively believed in. So I was very shocked when I learned the other day, and I've had this confirmed by various sources, both close to GB News and LBC, that the People's Channel has tried to poach the woke

and wet, non-conservative Ian Dale to become a new star of GB News. Now, the reason this shocked me so much was twofold. First, and I'll bring the receipts for this, by the way. Ian Dale was one of the most nasty, bitchy little critics of G.B. News right from the start. It was really goddamn hard when we launched that channel. And one of the reasons that I was so upset with my treatment from the bosses at GB News was because I put everything in. I put my career at NewsU.K. and in the mainstream media to one side because I believed that the United Kingdom and desperately needed an alternative to what we were being provided in the mainstream. And yeah, everything was really crappy at launch and the studios didn't work and the graphics

didn't work. But we had a heart and we knew that we were providing an alternative. But what really used to hurt me is that we had assholes like Ian Dale in his posh studio with his six-figure paycheck, constantly bitching and moaning about GB News and how shit it was and how right wing it was and how unprofessional it was, yet now all is forgiven. And because this station continues to pivot into the middle ground and the centre, that offering him a big role? Like what?

Why? He's an asshole. He's not a man of the people. He's on the left. What are you doing, G.B. News? You don't want Ian Dale. You don't need Ian Dale. So I'm going to show you first how he used to criticize GB News

because it was constant. Here was one post switched on GGB News for the first time in a long time. Two major howlers in their news. Bulletin Peter Dowd hasn't been shadow chief secretary for two and a half years. David Amos' successor is not campaigning for Southend to become a city. That was achieved several months ago. Gb News have their floor manager, Tony, singing the Slade Christmas song. Seriously, does anyone really watch this absolute shite fest? So Lord Frost resigns, Sky News has an environmental documentary on BBC News Channel, has a sports show.

Gb News is talking about the Titanic. What is the point of TV news channels if they don't cover breaking news? When someone called Jim Hornchurch said, Ian, you're a waste on LBC. If only you could be tempted to move over to GB News, it would be great. Ian Dale replied, my audience is bigger than all GB News shows combined. Why would I do that? So I'm just trying to make the point here that Ian Dale was not a believer in this station whatsoever. But my sources tell me, and this is actually something you should know about Ian Dale,

he did agree to meet with G.B. News executives, but not because he intended to leave LBC, but because he was trying to get a boost to his own paycheck. My issue, though, is with why G.B. News bosses wanted him in the first place, because Aendale has been absolutely clear about what type of man he is and what he really thinks about the Patriots who want to change this country. He thinks that we are dinosaurs. Listen to the revolting way in which he dealt with this caller who was talking about the real valid concerns about how this country is being changed forevermore by mass immigration. So in the future generations, our grandchildren and great-grandchildren are going to be a minority in their own country because it's your generation wants to flood the country with people that are totally unassimable to our way of life. You're a complete dinosaur, I'm afraid. I mean, it's absolutely disgusting to say, oh, well, these people bring their ways here,

and you can't actually articulate what they are. I don't want to hear any more of it, Liz. Thank you very much. Why do you want to hire that man, G.B. News. He hates your viewers. He hates your audience. This was his reaction to Slippery Stama's Island of Strangers' speech. I can't believe what I heard. It was a speech that, frankly, Nigel Farage could have given.

It's a speech, Suella, break. Riverman could have given. It's a speech Robert Jenrick could have given. I could not believe I was listening to a Labour Prime Minister, a Labour Prime Minister, making such what I thought were in century comments about immigration. Not once did he really mention any benefits from migration. And in one speech, to me, he lost all of the credit that he's built up for his handling of foreign policy. And then he starts talking about an island of strangers. therefore undermining all the careful community cohesion and good relations between our various communities that have built up over the past decades. In one stroke, he's managed to do that.

I think it's an absolute disgrace. And he hates Reform UK, of course. This was his discussion with Jamie McIver of the party in regards to what was going on in EPIN, the sex attacks by illegal migrants on young girls in the area. British people, that people come to this country illegally, break the law, get put into a hotel, and then get fed. They need to be away from schools. They need to be away from young children. We have got, they need to be away from communities like Epping. That is the point. That is the point. So not in my, not in my backyard. As long as there's somewhere else, I couldn't give a damn about them.

No, of course I don't. Of course I don't. But you can't, you can't, what you're effectively labeling them, you're tying them all with the same brush. You're basically saying every single asylum seeker, it's a danger to your child, and that's a disgrace. What would I do if I was a Home Secretary today? Well, I know what you would do. I know what you would do if you were Home Secretary, but the fact is you're not, thank God you're not a Labour, thank God you're not a Home Secretary. It doesn't really matter what you would do, because we have a government, we have the current law, and therefore the current government has to decide what to do with people when

they come into this country. Now, you would like to immediately send them back to France and yet you know that that's impossible to happen at the moment because the French wouldn't accept them back. And so you're just sitting there, really with no original ideas of what to do with them, just saying, well, let them starve effectively. That's what you're saying. I haven't said that. Well, you have because you said you would not give them food.

So Paul thought, look, the first thing is it's always a bit of fun, right? I love finding out the inside gossip. People want to know who's up, who's down, who's been poached. It's fun. I love exposing the mainstream media. So there is that side of it, right? It's just a bit of fun. Ian Dale basically used GB News and this offer, when to met with the executive,

probably to get a big pay rise himself. That's how these mainstream media cruttons work. But to me, there is a more serious side of this too about what this means for GB News, why they want to take this path towards the centre ground, to being woke and wet, because I think I have just showing you the type of guy that Ian Dale is. And I wouldn't say he's a patriot, Paul.

No, I think he's a vile individual. I mean, look, you know, this is, it's just another mainstream media melt that will promote any narrative as long as the price is right. And he's drifted over the years so far over to the left. Banning, even talking to Tommy Robinson in 2019, he's never had the courage to debate with him. He's described us all as thugs.

And as the clips you've just played there, Dan, fully reveal the man, why GB News would possibly want him is anyone's guest. But having said that, people like Ian Dow are easily bought. And if the money's right, I'm sure it'll quickly revert back to the centre or maybe even the centre right if the paycheck's big enough. Totally. I guess what's very depressing to me, though, is that I almost start thinking, gosh, were people like me and people like,

Father Calvin Robinson and Lawrence Fox and Mark Stein, were we just used at the start of GB News to almost build up a loyal audience so that actually they could then come in and just bring a whole load of MSM type people in. That's what trying to go for people like Ian Dale suggests for me. And I mean, there's been a whole load of them, I guess, have been brought over. Andrew Pearce, Camilla Tominey, Michael Portillo. It's, you. you know, it's really not an alternative anymore. Well, they labour themselves as the people's channel, but I'm afraid it's nothing like that, is it? Well, no, because when you look at Unite the Kingdom, for example, I was very shocked that their only coverage, Paul, was from someone who was in the crowd later that day, the police reports of the arrests.

But of course, what they did not do was show, and I mean this, because I checked a single second of Tommy Robinson on stage. A single second of Tommy Robinson's interview with Elon Musk, which was so massively newsworthy, and any mainstream broadcaster would have been desperate to have that for themselves. So I don't know, why keep censoring these people?

We go back to the fear factor then, don't we? They're frightened of the truth. They all know the truth, but they're scared stiff of revealing it because they know that once the truth is unpelled and the public, and they admit it, once the lawyer has been unveiled, the great lawyer that we've all been put through for the last 20 years, if not longer, it's all over for all of them, isn't it? It's literally all over. And I think that, again, G.B. News are failing to read the room. You know, why hasn't Tommy Robinson? I mean, he is probably, whether you love him or hate him, he's one of the most interesting guys in the country. Why would you not want to have him on your station?

100%. I'll tell you why, because he tells the truth. 100%. 100%. Paul, a couple of weeks ago, but it's the first time you've been back since. I covered this new row between yourself and Mike Graham. He's made some pretty tough comments on you and you responded. What have you thought about his launch?

Because you were still pretty positive and said it's good that he is operating in this mainstream space, despite the fact that he was criticising you on air. I've got nothing against Mike Graham. Good luck to him. I mean, he's not my sort of guy. I wouldn't want to drink in the pub with him. I like people that show a bit of integrity, a bit of honesty. And if I'm honest then, I like people that, you know, are just fair.

And I think Mike's comments over the movement again and again involving Tommy, and I don't want to keep on about Tommy, but he said lies. He told lies about Tommy, just like Danny Kruger. And I just said, I think you should apologize. And in return for my asking if he would apologize, he sort of got a little bit personal, but I wish him well then, and I hope to thought it, you know,

continues to improve. It's interesting, isn't it? There's almost two schools in the independent media space. So it's like you have the full-on reformists and the Farages, but what's interesting is those people feel they can't platform anyone else outside of it

because otherwise reform will pull support of them. And as you know, I've been a big supporter of Mike Graham and I am a big supporter of Mike Graham, even though I've been very open. You saw my interview with him and everything, Paul. I totally disagree with his comments about Tommy Robinson. There's lots of stuff I disagree with when it comes to Mike. But I've really supported him coming into the space because I think he's done a great job and has almost completely proved that Talk TV is now an irrelevant. But it was interesting me this morning to see, you know, and I think Mike's show is great. But I saw Richard Tice, for example, appeared on his show, whereas he was. never appear on this show anymore. He used to, but I had to make a choice, which was,

do I platform Rupert Lowe, Ben Habib, Tommy Robinson, or do I keep getting those big guest bookings from reform? But it wasn't like I made the choice. Do you see what I mean? I would still have reform on. I actually asked Matt Goodwin to come on to talk about the Gorton and by, Denton by-election offered to travel up to Manchester to do it, and he turned it down. So I think that's what's really interesting to me. It's like it's reform who are forcing people to make a choice. I haven't made the choice.

You know, Paula, I'm not, as you know, a member of any political party, but I want all of these parties to have a voice, to have a space, to thrive. And then, of course, closer to the next election, there might be discussions that take place about uniting the right. Dan, why the hell would any politician

not want to come on your show? It just is, it beggars belief. Yeah, well, I was really disappointed because Matt Goodwin did previously come on the show. You see? So what's changed, Matt? Nothing's changed about me or my views. What's changed is that I also give a platform to Rupert Lowe, to Tommy Robinson, and to Ben Habib, and for Reform UK people, that makes it radioactive.

But it's still a choice the individuals make. I mean, when Andrew Rosendell defected from the Tory party to Reform UK, he turned up here. And I have great respect for him for doing that, you know, because it shows people can make individual decisions. And I think Matt Goodwin made mistake. There'll be a lot of people in Dorton and Gorton, Genton, who are currently watching, outspoken. And I've heard from Nick Buckley and they haven't heard from Matt Goodwin. And I think that is a real shame. Let's celebrate some rare good news coming out of the mainstream media, the Brexit Virgin Femiola Wally. is not going to be able to afford a new tight t-shirt

because he's just been sacked from the Jeremy Vine show and he's moaning that his two appearance fees for appearing on that panel mean that he's not going to be able to pay his rent. Boo-hoo! Boo-hoo! This is probably the only good decision. Jeremy Vine and that show has made in recent months given they continue to offer a platform for, extremists like Bush Roshake and Narenda Kaur and Yasmin Alibaya Brown to spread their race, hate and

division throughout the United Kingdom. But I will take the wins. And I am glad that Jeremy Vine has finally realized that Femiolewally doesn't know a thing. He doesn't have a brain. He doesn't have any political nows. There's absolutely no reason to put him on your show because all we got were ludicrous confrontations like this. It shouldn't be questioned that wearing poppy because people died for us and saved our lives, yet somehow the push for racial equality. You say that so glibly people die.

You say it like it's just nothing. You're the person who's saying that this is one thing that is beyond question because it's such a noble good, yet racial equality cannot be equated with it. It's completely different. You see, we had statues of slave traders still up in public spaces. That is a distortion of history from their perspective.

Now, for example, we wouldn't, would you have a statue of Jimmy Saville up in a public space? Yes or no? You've got the leader of the actual Brexit party, one of the main campaigns from 2016. It's incredible. You're quoting Nigel for the point. It's incredible. Hang on, hang on. Carol.

This for the past three years. Let him get maybe, if not to the end of the sentence, at least to some sort of bit of punctuation. Maybe a semicolon. So the guy's a joke. He's a total joke. He should never have been given this big opportunity when there are so many good people who are banned from the mainstream media all together.

He's also a cheap joke, by the way, who was relying on his two appearances on Jeremy Vine to pay his rent. And so he's not happy about being fired. Watch. They fired me, which is to say, they stopped booking me a few years ago. And it was a big deal for me because it was my main media gig.

I was on there like twice a month. because I happen to be living in the spare room of my best mate's house, mates rates. The show covered rent for me, so losing that was a big deal. And so because I'm not a prick, well, it's not the kind of prick that thinks he never makes mistakes. I did question, did I do something wrong? What could I have done differently? And maybe, like, the fact that I did try and push to go up against more high-profile right-wingers, and maybe it wasn't my place to do that.

But I thought that it would be, I'd make more of a difference if I could take down. some real heavy hitters so that when I win the arguments it actually makes a difference because people on the right can see, oh, this guy that I actually fully respect, um, that he's been taken down by this lefty, maybe my idol isn't somebody I should be listening to, that sort of thing. Um, so maybe it was my place to say that. Um, but I have no issues, no sense of guilt. I don't actually feel like I did anything truly wrong that I deserved to be essentially kicked off the show. Why? Because Caramelone is still there. they've chosen to keep Carol Malone. Like this screen grab is from literally yesterday when she was on the show. They've chosen to keep her and ax me. So a decision was made. Like if this is the sort of person they want to keep on their show, somebody who shouts every time, interrupts every time,

is rude every time, is offensive every single time. That's the quality of debater that they think should be a mainstay of the show right up until today. but I only lasted a few years. So I'm feeling I'm not the problem. Well, Carol Malone has responded to Femi Olawoli, writing, poor little Femi, I think he's a little bit obsessed with me. Bev Turner, the GBM News presenter,

but formerly of the Jeremy Vine Parish, then weighed in to say, if this is your main media gig and you're on twice a month, you need to be honest about your career choice. It's about 275 pounds in appearance. That means he was content to earn 560 pounds per month just to be on TV. I remember him slagging me off in my absence at that desk in 2021. I hope he finds a better path. And Carol Malone then added to that by saying Bev, he slagged us all off, but kids himself, the reason TV shows stop using him is because he's so good when the opposite is true.

The trouble with egotist like Femi is that when he looks in the mirror, which I suspect he does a lot, he doesn't see what the rest of us see. Paul thought, I thought this was so interesting because you know usually it's been anyone on the right being banned from appearing on shows like Jeremy Vine. I mean, there are so many people who used to go on that show like from Lawrence Fogg. to Father Calvin Rumpson, who are all banned now, right? But in some ways, I thought this is great, because Femmy, it's not that I want him to be cancelled, right?

He can go and do his thing. But it's that he is literally one of the most stupid men I have ever had to deal with when I used to have him on my talk show. I ended up banning him. I never once had him on my GBM show, Paul, because he's just a negative, vicious, vile, race-baiting fool who doesn't believe in democracy and has no right to be on. So this is actually a correct decision by Jeremy Lai.

Let's be honest then. Let's tell it for what it is. If he wasn't a black male and, you know, he wouldn't have been in that particular job in the first place. He's there for DEI reasons. Let's get that absolutely straight. And I'm wondering if that, I wonder if Emmy, what's his name, Femioli, I wonder if he's related to any eluded.

because they both seemed to suffer from illusions of grandeur. Look, then neither are very good at their job, and that is the bottom line. Neither of them are particularly popular. Olly Wally is only there as a race baiter, as someone that is there to deliberately wind up the audience, and he's gone, he should think himself lucky that he's ever been on the goddamn television.

There's a lot of people more talented, I can tell you now, that will never ever get, into the position that he's going to because of their colour. Yeah, very good point, actually. Very good point. And the thing is right, all of these shows are becoming an irrelevance, though. But what shocked me most is that he was relying on that £275 pounds of fortnight to pay his rent. I have been telling this man, Paul, for years.

Go and buy a properly fitted T-Porten. shirt and go and get a proper bloody job. Go to work. Go to get a job. We've all had to work in our life. Don't rely on Jeremy Vine to pay your bloody rent. These are the same people who will be online covertly calling you a grifter. That's the bottom line.

We know, we know, we know all about them. But no, seriously, you're absolutely right. Femi, wisen up, go and get a proper job, do a bit of graft, and come again. Maybe set up your own YouTube channel, see how good you are at. Exactly. I think he has tried that, Paul, and that's the issue. You see, that is the issue with these people. Because we're in a total level playing field, right? Like, when I set up my YouTube, I'm competing against everyone. Right. Like, it's not like you come in and you get a boost because you've been in the mainstream media. You start from the ground up and it's all about supply and demand. It's old school. So, Femmy, if people want to watch you, you'll have a successful YouTube channel. I have a feeling they don't. So I would argue, go and get a haircut, go and get a real job and actually do something good with your life, because this isn't for you. It's just not for you. Looking forward to the channel, Femmy, looking forward to it. We'll enjoy it. Indeed. Now, look, Paul, do stand by because

of course, you've made these union jackass picks and I want to see who the public have gone with. But Paul, first, let's just get into a bit of this feedback here about Stama and Reform UK. England 777 says Stama is as popular as that child screaming and rolling around on the supermarket floor. Juliet Johnson says Corbyn must be enjoying watching care go through this public turmoil and humiliation. Backstabbers get their comeuppance. Super Grand 10, hello Supergrands, says, Thick-O-Lammy shouting from getting under the car this

morning and it took us 14 years to get here. Yeah, and it took less than two to bugger it up. Thick as general election needed ASAP. And then we come onto this issue of Reform UK and whether they can be trusted. Kara 96 says no. Reform equals Timu Tori 2.0. Puds 5102 says, Farage is what he always has been a self-interested narcissist, a company man with dagger in hand. And Christine Homer says, Farage and Reform voters should sit down. Reform was Al-Parsie until Farage and his money, man, jumped in and sucked, sacked all the right-wing

voices we voted for. And I do think Paul thought that is a fair point, isn't it? Because this is one of the problems with Reform UK. I mean, God Almighty, I mean, Steve Laws at one point was a member of Reform UK. So there certainly has been a change in political philosophy there. Yeah, I mean, look, for me, you know, Dan, I'm on the council of Vance UK. And these days, look, I tend to let Reform get on with, you know, doing what they're doing best at the moment. and that's sending new members over to us. So, you know, I just let reform get on doing what they're doing.

We're doing what we're doing. And I think the public will decide. We now have a genuine people's party. It's there. It's ready. It's willing and it's waiting for people who come and join us. And people will decide for themselves. You know, as I said earlier on, Nigel Farage had it all in his hands.

And I'm afraid he threw it away. But that's his choice. is one of your nominations for union jackass today paul but i do think it's probably a day right where labor is going to dominate it in some ways it was a bit tongue in shape then it was a little bit tongue easy because you've also obviously gone you've gone for the ex deputy prime minister and angela reina and the current deputy prime minister and david lamia a forementioned so shall we take a look at these these results i mean it is interesting paul because 18 percent still still still did go for Nigel Farage, even amongst all of this labour chaos. 30% going for Red Rain of the

Tax Invader, but 52%, a huge percentage going for David Lammy as today's Union Jackass, which I don't think is a huge surprise, is at Paul? No, the Lammy Dodger never fails to disappoint. You get why I mean. And Paul, your greatest Britain today is who? Oh, they were seeing it. Yeah, no surprise there. Ben Habib, for me, he gave the most inspirational political speech that I've ever heard in my life, certainly in my lifetime over the weekend.

Wasn't it incredible? Yeah, I thought it was unbelievable. I really did. And do you know what, Dan, the feedback that I've had, he's just lifted the nation. He's certainly lifted at Bance members. He's given us a boost. that we needed because there is a lot of depression around. A lot of people are so fed up.

We're looking for answers and we believe Ben's the man with the answers, but time will tell. But he's certainly my nomination for Great is Britain. And look, I just want to update everyone on this really horrifying story, which we were tracking at the start of the show. Paul Thorpe, it is now confirmed that a 13-year-old boy has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two boys were stabbed at a school in northwest London. Police now saying that officers were called to Kingsbury High School at 12.40 p.m. following reports, a 13-year-old had been stabbed. Police said they were later made aware that a second victim of 12.

year old boy had also been stabbed at the scene. Both have survived. At the top of the show, the suspected stabber was in, on the loose now in custody, Paul Thorpe, but just really horrifying how unsafe our schools now are. Well, have we now got to the point where every child of, you know, from the age of, I don't know, 10 upwards, needs to be checked with a metal detector before they go into school now. I mean, is that where we're at? I think it probably is. I know.

Really, really horrifying story. But thank goodness. Both of them are alive. But Paul Thorpe, always such a joy to have you on Outspoken. Of course, everyone must subscribe to Paul Thorpe's much watch YouTube channel. I was watching all of your brilliant pregame coverage of the Advance UK event on Saturday, Paul. and it was absolutely brilliant seeing you just chatting with ordinary folk. It was absolutely wonderful stuff.

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