Dan Wootton Outspoken - LEE ANDERSON LASHES OUT AS MUSLIM MOB ROUND ON ROCHDALE POLICE STATION OVER AIRPORT ROW | OUTSPOKEN EP15

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

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No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooten. This is Outspoken Live, episode number 15. And is Kamala Harris the Meghan Markle of Washington, D.C.? A bully and a liar? Well, my friend Meghan Kelly sure thinks so. Kamala Harris is a bully who's pushed out or made life intolerable for virtually every person who's come to work for her in the White House. She's the Megan Markle of the administration. People can't work for her. She's a nightmare. We'll thrash that one out later in the show. But our lead story today is the UK heading towards Muslim mob rule. So after that altercation at Manchester airport, I'll show you if you haven't seen it, that mob just there threatened violent action outside Rochdale Police Station last night.

And have you noticed, no one seems to give a damn about the female police officer who had her nose broken. My digest on this fast developing story in just a moment. Also coming up today, the Conservative Party's civil war continues with moderate candidates Tom Tugendhat and Robert Jenrick declaring and immediately pretending to be more conservative than they really are. So why does Nadine Dorries believe this is all a plot? My superstar panel, the two Charlies today, Charlie Sansom and Charlie Downs, reveal all. Then James Essex on the trans grooming scandal involving the business partner of YouTube influencer MrBeast. Do remember, by the way, to hit subscribe right now on YouTube and Rumble.

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royal YouTuber AccordingToTaz. There we were, I met joined for the first time by the brilliant royal youtuber according to taz there we were i met her for the first time at lady colin campbell's ball at the weekend so this is going to be a fascinating conversation and include all the latest royal news so to watch it live straight after this main show sign up at www.outspoken.live. Let's go. Two mobs are once again driving the agenda and damning the police into a pathetic retreat. One is the social media mob of leftists. The other is the Muslim mob of extremists. And this all comes after a clip of a violent altercation at Manchester airport at 8.30pm on Tuesday went viral. Stop kicking people! You're on camera! Oh shit! Leave them!

Move up! Move up! Move up! Move up! Move up! Move up! Move up! Move up! Move up! Move up! Now I do appreciate that many will argue that that force was excessive. But the critical point is that that video only shows a tiny, small edited portion of the confrontation, which actually started with three armed police officers being kicked to the ground and sustaining serious injuries that required hospital treatment,

including, by the way way a female police officer who was smashed in the face and broke her nose but we saw none of that because that footage hasn't been released on social media and none of the outrage mob seems to give a damn because you see what happened in the latter part of the video if it's a narrative that they want to exploit a narrative that resulted in shouts of allah akbar by a threatening mob outside rochdale police station last night let's not mind smashing this fucking shit all up yeah it doesn't matter but tomorrow i'll tell you boys if we don't get justice, yeah, these motherfuckers are going to get it. Take it.

Follow, follow, follow. Allow weapons, allow weapons. Allow weapons. Fuck the police. Fuck police. Allow weapons. Fuck police. Allow weapons.

Fuck police. Allow weapons. Boys, please don't. Rather than back the police, who were violently attacked and feared their firearms could be seized, our leftist government immediately condemned them, no doubt fearing a repeat of last week's Leeds race riot. Local MP Paul Waugh tweeted, like many who have seen this clip, I am extremely concerned. I have had it confirmed that the man arrested is a Rochdale resident and I have talked to his family this evening. I plan to meet them in person tomorrow. Okay then, so is Paul Waugh also meeting the family of the female officer who sustained a broken nose? Manchester police soon gave in, announcing an officer had been suspended.

And there was more threatening rhetoric designed to stoke Muslim tensions from two of those released from custody. So I'm with Ahmad and Fahid here. They were released not long ago from Chidil police station. They then had to make their own way to the hospital. But in reality, because they've had head injuries, it was the police duty to take them to a hospital but nevertheless they made their own way and now I've documented their injuries and we are headed to Rochdale police station to make a formal complaint of assault and wounding against the police officers that have assaulted both Fahir and Ahmad and their elderly mother who was just there as a bystander.

So we'll keep you updated. OK, fine. But can you also please keep us updated about what happened before the viral footage? What happened to cause the female police officer to have a broken nose? As always seems to be the case at the moment, it was left to Reform UK to defend the police, to promote law and order and to put the other side of the woke argument. Here's Lee Anderson on the BBC. The message I'm getting loud and clear from my constituents is that they are fed up with seeing police dancing around rainbows and being nice to people

and running off from rioters. They want the police to do their job. And I think these police yesterday should be commended. In fact, I'd give them a medal. Because look what happened yesterday, what we've been told so far. A female officer had her nose broken. Other officers dragged to the ground. they tried to take the gun. We've got officers in hospital, we're in an airport. And the party's deputy leader, Richard Tice, said very similar on Talk TV.

What I've heard, Jeremy, I've only just seen this footage, but I think based on what I've heard and seen, that actually this is not distressing, this is reassuring. The simple answer is that if the police had had to use tasers, which at least two officers, if not three, clearly had, then there was a serious issue going on. Police officers don't use tasers unless they are genuinely concerned for the safety of members of public and themselves. bearing in mind these are weapons carrying officers who are there to prevent acts of terrorism making split-second judgments they have quite

rightly concluded that safety is the better option and they don't know whether these people have got grenades under their bodies completely they've got people around wearing loose clothing listen Listen, Richard, I'm not... Jeremy, this is not distressing. Don't... Hear me out. Let me answer the question. This is not distressing.

This is reassuring. And guess what? If actually the police had used, you know, some appropriate action last week in Leeds rather than running away, then maybe the riots wouldn't have been quite so bad in Hare Hills last week. The vast, vast majority of tens of millions of British people want the police to do their job and want people who are going to cause trouble, frankly, to have some respect and fear of the police. When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most? When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard. When the barbecue's lit, So thank God we now do have Fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions and terms apply. Instacart.

Groceries that over-deliver. So thank God we now do have Reform UK and Richard Tyson and Lee Anderson in Parliament. Now look, I should stress, no one wants police brutality. Mohammad Fayyad, the man who's apparently been beaten up, is in hospital. His lawyer says he's in a bad way. Psyst on the brain. But the police were beaten up, is in hospital. His lawyer says he's in a bad way, cyst on the brain. But the police were beaten up too. And they had firearms, which they were concerned could be seized. What we cannot do is make decisions based on an out of context viral video. And I really, really think it says something about our MSM and political establishment that there has been far more outrage about the airport viral video than about an English soldier,

this hero, Lieutenant Colonel Mark Teaton, who was stabbed in uniform outside his army barracks in front of his wife. That man's been charged today. So let that sink in. But to react now, let me bring in my superstar panel. And joining me today is the Together Declaration ambassador, host of X Uncensored on X Sunday nights from 7pm to 10pm, Charlie Sansom, and the political commentator known as Anglo-Zoomer, Charlie Downs. So two Charlies today. This is going to be difficult, isn't it? So maybe I'm going to have to refer to you both by your

last name. So Charlie Downs, what's your take on this? It's such a depressing state that we're in as a country, isn't it? I mean, frankly, I believe that what we're seeing now with these, you know, these back to back stories of the soldier stabbed and this incident in Manchester. This is just the logical and eternal result of diversity. When you import a more violent element from a different part of the world and you have them living among native people and just these communities grinding up against each other. I kind of hate using that word communities. It's very sort of a new labor coded language. But you know what I'm talking about. When you have that, it's inevitable that a more violent type of policing becomes necessary and tensions flare. But I think one of the more interesting parts of this is actually the fact that we did have this Muslim mob

assemble outside of Rochdale police station shouting Allahu Akbar, because what that betrays is a mindset among that community that the native British and English simply don't have. These people think of themselves as a group. They think of themselves as a people. They think of themselves not as mere individuals, but as a collective. And what that means is when one of their own is attacked or dishonored or whatever else, they come out into the streets and they start making

threats. The English and the British, more generally, on the other hand, don't think like this. And actually, historically speaking, the way that the uh muslim community um is thinking is far more uh normal actually the way that we think about the way we british think of ourselves as being just purely individuals and we're not part of a collective and all the rest of it that's actually quite abnormal and actually quite unhealthy because when push comes to shove the more well-organized group will win and at the I mean, I think we know who that is. Charlie, the thing that's quite shocking about this to me is immediately how the entire political establishment and media elite are marching to the tune of a viral video. And this is Charlie Sampson, sorry, that I'm asking about this, to this viral video.

And actually, we have no idea what happened beforehand. And what is abundantly clear is that police officers were brutally attacked. This is the thing that people don't take into consideration. And I want to concur with everything that Charlie Downs just said a moment ago with regards to community and the way that the English don't club together this is why eventually we're going to lose this element of the culture war because the Muslims have it down right they know how to stick together and what they're going to do is they're going to politicize this video beyond belief because they know it sends a message if they do so by standing outside police stations saying they're going to politicise this video beyond belief because they know it sends a message if they do so by standing outside police stations

saying they're going to write if they don't get their own way. And what will the police do? They'll do the same things they've done for the past 20, 30, 40 years, which is absolutely nothing unless they're truly backed into a corner. What I find staggering about the video is that no one is actually looking for the context beforehand why were the police heavy-handed do i believe they went too far personally no i don't you're

in an airport you've got armed officers there they're reacting to something what do you think they're responding to this is the thing that a lot of people on the left and the liberals don't want to take into account because it doesn't suit their narrative we need to be serious i'm glad the police actually showed um a sign of force in the airport yesterday because it means that other people may not take that chance in the future. I should point out, though, too, Charlie Downs, that it isn't just folk on the left. For example, Lawrence Fox is saying,

actually, there's no excuse for this type of police brutality. But again, I think it's too early to make that judgment because we do not know what happened beforehand. We do know that the police were seriously injured. And if there was a case where potentially their firearms or they were concerned that their firearms could be seized within an airport, then actually we need a bit of brutality, don't we, to get them to the ground. And I just wonder if people were, you know, police have to make split second decisions and they do not know sometimes whether they are dealing with terrorists. And when you're in an airport and tensions are so high, I think they need to

be given just a little bit of leeway. But obviously what's happening, Charlie Downs, is that the international media are trying to say, here's Britain's George Floyd moment. I saw this story being covered on CNN just like that. Yeah, well, you've raised a couple of interesting points there. And one of the most crucial, actually, that I'm not seeing a lot of people talking about is the question of police training. Because earlier this year, I actually ran an independent candidates Mayor of London campaign. And one of the things that we really ran on was police training and specifically martial training, because the amount of training that the police in this country get when it comes

to actually dealing with a physical confrontation is so incredibly lacking that it's no surprise that incidents like this happen because whether you agree with how this police officer behaved or not what you can't deny is a police officer kicking the head of somebody who's on the ground is not a great look right optics wise it's not it's not great right what would be preferable is to have police officers trained in a martial art like for example brazilian jiu-jitsu which i train in and it's a it's not great, right? What would be preferable is to have police officers trained in a martial art, like for example, Brazilian jujitsu, which I train in. And it's a, it's a, it doesn't involve any striking. It's purely about sort of joint holds and chokes and this sort of thing. So it allows you to subdue a, you know, a suspect or whatever, in a way that doesn't actually hurt them. The threat of pain is there, but it's not the same as kicking them in the head

or punching them in the face. And so what I'm saying is what we should be calling for, as much as this incident may well be justified, may well not be, there are obviously a lot of opinions around this. What we should be saying is actually, our police should have a better standard of ability to deal with physical confrontations

that means that it's not necessary for them to stamp on people's heads and so forth. Now on the George Floyd point, this was my first thought when I saw this video, was this is inevitably going to be used in the same way that the whole George Floyd thing was in America to justify essentially rioting and violence on the basis of ethnic grievances. And like I said already, the Muslim community in this country is very well organised, very cohesive, thinks of itself as a group, thinks of itself as a people with shared interests and common values. And therefore, I think we need to be prepared for that to happen.

If I could just make one more point very quickly, it is that, you know, for so long in this country, well, for the entirety of our country's history, actually, up until the last few decades with mass migration, the paradigm that we've existed in politically and socially has been that you have the government and you have the loyal opposition. But at the end of the day, we can all go to the pub together. We can all have a pint. And when it comes down to it, it's just details that we're arguing about

because we have a shared vision of what it means to be a good country and a well-governed country. And that idea, that kind of mindset was reflected at every level of society. You can have your disagreements with your family, with your friends, with your neighbours, but actually when push comes to shove, we're in it together and we are a people. Now, the situation we find ourselves in is not that. We find ourselves in a situation where there are elements within our society walking the streets of our towns,

villages and cities who genuinely hate us and who do not share our values, who have no history or place in this country. And so this attitude among so many people that actually, well, you know, we still need to behave as if we're in this kind of very civil situation is wrong. And people need to disabuse themselves of that notion. Indeed. And Charlie Sanson, then we have the extraordinary situation where this story has actually booted off the top of the news. The fact that a serving army officer, Lieutenant Colonel Mark Teton, we have learned today, dressed in uniform, was stabbed multiple times outside his army barracks in Kent. Immediately, Charlie, and this is something that really annoys me, immediately yesterday you have police sources and the media jumping on the

mental health bandwagon as if to say to us, oh don't even consider for a second that the person who was behind this, and obviously we have to be very careful in terms of what we say because of the UK laws now that this man has been charged, but immediately it was almost like, don't even consider terrorism. Don't even consider his motives. It's just down to mental health. Well, that's normally what we get told when they don't want to deal with the cause of the problem.

Without jumping to any conclusions, whenever a soldier is attacked in this country, the first thing I think of is terrorism from a particular faith. Now now i don't know if that's true or not of this gentleman that's committed this horrendous crime um and i use the word gentleman uh quite wrongly there actually he's not a gentleman at all but what what we'll find is that this will be wheeled out often because people don't want to deal with it and also it goes back to the point that the community element of mob rule that we have with the Manchester airport situation taking precedence over this is because we know that on the streets a certain group will win they make the most noise

and they make the most fuss unfortunately I have to agree with Charlie Downs again that we don't club together well enough to defend our own people our traditions and in this case even our own soldiers in the press i know but the thing is we're marching towards dangerous territory aren't we charlie downs because we have the labour government who are going to constantly now try and excuse this behavior really and pretend that this behavior isn't an issue. At the same time we have lots of English folk who are absolutely furious with what they see going on around them, furious with being ignored by the mainstream media and they intend to start marching as well and I believe there is a massive protest being planned in London this weekend. Obviously, those protests have been peaceful in the past, although the mainstream media are desperate for there to be violence because the way they cover protests by the likes of Tommy Robinson compared to protests by the mob that we saw outside Rochdale

police station last night could not be any more extreme in terms of the different tone. But are you concerned now that we could be heading for some sort of violence on the streets? There's no question of heading towards dangerous territory. We are deep in dangerous territory, and we have been for a long time. It's just been a case of the spark that's going to ignite the fuse. if you look at, you know, in all times and places, is if you have disparate groups of people grinding up against each other, living in the same geographical location, it's only a matter of time before violence begins. And that's just an unfortunate reality of human nature, because we are pack animals. And that can't be denied. And actually, the liberal paradigm that we live in and have lived in for the better part of 100 years, completely just has no answer to that fact. It forgets that fact, ignores that fact about human nature on purpose,

because the liberal project is all about universality, the notion that we can bring our liberal values to everybody on earth and they will accept them and imbibe them and become, you know, wholly enlightened people like we in the West, when actually that's actually not true. It's just simply not. Sorry, go on. Well, no, I was just going to say, it's totally exacerbated though on the ground

when you have the political elite and the media class trying to demonise police officers on a constant basis. That's right. That was going to be my next point is actually the important thing always in politics is to come back to the power dynamics because politics is about power. It would be bad enough if this was happening by itself but it's the way in

which the institutions of power react to these sorts of situations because when for example a soldier is stabbed by an immigrant or murdered by an immigrant or a bomb goes off at a concert for example um it's don't look back in anger right it's it's you know forgive and forget and move forward we're all you know we're all individuals and we all love each other. But on the other hand, when it's the Muslim kicked in the head by the police officer, it's Allahu Akbar, we're gonna bring these people to justice

if they don't meet our demands. And that is very interesting, I think, because what it shows and what I believe to be true is over a period of decades, maybe even centuries, the Englishman and the European more generally has been domesticated, basically, because in the state of nature, the European and the Englishman are the most dangerous animal in the world. And history is all you need to look at to confirm that fact. And so if you keep poking the sleeping Englishman, if you keep provoking and attacking and so on, it's only a matter of time before I think we start to see

some seriously nasty things happening on the streets of our country. And I fear for that, because I mean, I'm 23 years old. I'm looking to get married and have some children in the very near future. And I really worry about what kind of country I'm going to bring them into. Now, I refuse to leave this country because it's my homeland and I feel a duty to protect it and to save it. But quite frankly, I mean, I worry. I really worry about where we're headed as a nation. Yeah, so do I. So do I. And look, let's talk politics. But obviously, it's all infused, right? Because the Conservative Party is in a civil war, war effectively over who their next leader is going to be there is one group in the party led by suela braverman and priti patel who know

that they have failed over the past 14 years and that mass immigration has caused a lot of these issues that we're currently dealing with. But what I'm finding fascinating with this race is you actually have a lot of MPs from the left of the party who have been wet and woke in government now trying to pretend that they are truly conservative. So let's talk about two of them because they have declared their leadership ambitions today. We'll start with Tom Tugendhat, who released this. Well, actually, this is funny, actually. This is maybe a sign of his campaign to come because he's already had to change his logo. Because if you look on the left, guys, it actually spells out T-U-R-D, turd. And I would say this is a turd of a campaign from the start. Tom Tugendhat might be a

nice man, but he doesn't have the courage of his convictions. And he was one of the uber woke, uber wet people in the government. But here was his video announcing his candidacy. I'm standing to lead the Conservative Party back to government. That means being honest with ourselves and the country. We need to recognise where we failed. We said we'd cut taxes and they went up. We said we'd cut immigration, it went up. We let people down. We lost their trust. We fought amongst ourselves instead of delivering for the British people. We forgot that leadership is about fixing the problems people actually care about.

I will end the infighting, rebuild the trust and deliver for you. I want to lead the Conservative Party and make us ready for government in five years' time. But Charlie Sansom, this guy has already proven to be all talk because here he is on the front page of the Daily Telegraph this morning saying the UK should leave the daily telegraph this morning saying the uk should leave the echar as soon as he was actually questioned about that he went back to the rishi sunak bullshit of oh well maybe if we need to it's like do they not learn any lessons

they'll never learn and i hope that whoever decides to take over the Conservative Party is forgotten just as quickly as their appointed leader. Because one thing that I've noticed about all their campaigns is that they're all the same from Tom to James Cleverley to a couple of others, is that they're going to unite the party. When has the Conservative Party ever been united? I'd like to know the answer to that question, actually, from any one of these leadership candidates. I've never known it to be unified at all. They're going to win back the hearts and minds of voters and they're going to take it to Labour in five years' time. Guys, give it up. You're talking hot air. No one cares what

you've got to say right now. We're not going to care what the Tories have to say for a very long time and I find that even though they do need to find a new leader now that Sunak is stepping down we actually don't want to hear the twinkly music over them shaking the hand of the door they've just knocked on to the paid actor who's there just greeting them with a smile on their face it's so contrived and it's so boring. Just accept that we don't want to hear it and move on. Maybe I'm too cynical. Well, the thing is, look, I do agree with that in a lot of ways. That is the political climate in which we're operating in. However, Charlie Downs, I think it is utterly critical

that we have a strong Conservative Party because they are the official opposition. And I thought Rishi Sunak was utterly pathetic yesterday at PMQs, simply asking Starmer, Slippery Starmer, a whole load of wet and woke questions about the forever war in Ukraine to try and show that he's now a statesman above the political fray. No, this government has to be held to account from day one. And obviously, there's Reform UK, and that's great. And I have a lot of faith, actually, that Nigel Farage will probably end up being Prime Minister in 2029.

But there's going to have to be some type of deal between the Conservative Party and Reform UK for that to happen. And that's why I am advocating for a dramatic, true right-wing, true Conservative leader, Charlie-like Priti Patel or Suella Braverman. Now, there's a few things to say on this subject. And I believe the most important thing for people to understand about the Conservative Party as an organisation is the thing that it excels best at is political containment. And by that, I mean, it's very best at is political containment and by that i mean it's very good at co-opting issues and sort of uh being seen to solve the problems but actually is just taking away the energy from these things so prime example of this was brexit okay what brexit

was at the ground level was an expression of nationalism quite frankly and and a desire for sovereignty and it wasn't this weird sort of corporate global thing that it became. But when the Tories got their fangs into it, and when Boris Johnson was chosen as the man to deal with it, it went from being this kind of very almost expression of traditionalism and patriotism, and turned into this very modern, almost sort of American style, corporate globalist kind of thing. And I believe that the Conservative Party, I mean, that is the ultimate function of the Conservative Party within the British political system, is to contain and dissipate the energy around genuine right wing causes and issues. So I think that the best possible thing for the country, that the Conservatives could do,

is elect somebody like Kemi Badenoch as the leader, somebody who is just a continuity candidate, and who represents nothing but a return to the pre-existing status quo. Because the Conservative Party, if this country is to move anywhere, and if a right-wing movement in this country is to get anywhere, the Conservative Party must be completely destroyed.

And so I fundamentally disagree with you. Well, where I do agree with you, where I do agree with you, is that Kemi Badenock would be the woman to do that because all of the rhetoric rhetoric around her is completely wrong uh it is a lie that she is truly conservative she is the latest puppet on the string and nadine dorries has revealed a whole load about this of of Dougie Smith and Michael Gove. So yes, if you want the Conservative Party to be destroyed, then your answer is Kemi Badenoch.

I agree with that. But actually, I'm still going to put some faith. I mean, I'm certainly not putting all of my eggs in one basket. I was very honest and open about the fact that I did not support and personally vote for the Conservative Party at the most recent election. I supported Reform UK. However, I'm not yet at that place where I say, OK, all hope is lost. But if they keep Suella Braverman, Charlie Sanson and Priti Patel off the ballot, then I am done, right? I am done. Because what I can tell you, and remember, I really know the grassroots of the Conservative Party. I know the membership, I understand their needs and desires. And I believe that if Priti or Suala make the final two, whoever it is, whichever one of those two it is, they will win. But the MPs will not put them on that final two shortlist.

No, we've seen how the Conservative leadership, CCHQ, holds their own members in contempt with regards to the last leadership election they held, which they in the end overturned to get their man in position. But I would argue that it would be great for the Conservatives to have someone like Priti Patel or Suella Braverman if you're looking to rebuild the party. I believe those are the kinds of ladies that you should rally behind because they've got strong rhetoric

and a lot of people who are Conservative would back them. However, I see them being sidelined, as it were, as a plus long-term. Because if they feel put out... Join Reform UK, presumably. Of course, absolutely. And Nigel has opened the door for that. Should also mention, by the way, Robert Jenrick,

he entered the race today too. Now, Robert Jenrick, I reckon, this is just a theory, I don't have proof, but I reckon he's been on the Asempic jabs because he has slimmed down, he's looking fighting fit. He wants to be leader. Interestingly, he's been backed by Danny Kruger, a popular conservative who is a true conservative within the party who previously had led the leadership campaign for Suala Bravman. So that was a big defection. But what's interesting, Charlie Downs, is that if you look back at Robert Jenrick's recent history, he was a big Sunak ally. He was actually quite rude, but he was described as Robert Jennerick by his colleagues because he was so wet.

So while I do like this new transformation of Robert Jennerick, can we really trust it? No, because you can never trust Tories because, you know, as I said, what they are the master of is just containing issues. And I think someone like Robert Jenrick, he's recognised that immigration is the most pressing issue of our time in British politics. And, you know, he authored this study with Neil O'Brien at the Centre for Policy Studies recently about immigration. It was a very good report. It was a very good piece of research. But I don't trust that he is truly conservative. I don't believe that he has the stones or any of the leadership contenders for that matter. I don't think any of them have the stones to actually face the issues that this country is facing head on.

I think a different type of leader, a different type of politician has become necessary. And I don't think any of the political class currently really has what it takes. And I'm not happy to say that, but I just think that it's just the truth, quite frankly. And I think so a new type of leader, a new generation of leaders has to come forward and have no kind of illusions about the bleak situation our country finds itself in. Of course, the MSM across the Atlantic have weighed in behind Kamala Harris, who they have now decided is the second coming, despite being probably the most incompetent vice president in recent American history. But Megyn Kelly has put forward a theory that actually the VP is the Megyn Markle.

Kamala Harris is a bully who's pushed out or made life intolerable for virtually every person who's come to work for her in the White House. She's the Megyn Markle of the administration. People can't work for her. She's the Meghan Markle of the administration. People can't work for her. She's a nightmare. What do you make of that, Charlie Zansom? Well, you know, I think that all the support that Kamala Harris has been given over the past few days is completely BS. I mean, I don't believe anyone wants her to run as president. Do I think she's a bully? I don't know. I'm not. I don't really. She doesn't come across that way to me. She comes across as somebody quite amiable, quite friendly, but clueless.

She just seems clueless. And that's saying something compared to Joe Biden. And I would say she'd be worse than Joe Biden. Charlie Downs, what do you reckon? I mean mean there have been loads of reports during her time as vp that she is very much like megan markle really difficult to work for loads of staff have left her office and maybe puts on a nice front in public but actually what megan kelly was saying was much more accurate in terms of what sort of woman she really is. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say. I mean, I don't I'm not hugely interested in Kamala Harris, to be honest. I don't find her particularly remarkable, so I don't think about her very much.

What I do think is interesting about what's happened over the last week with Biden and Harris coming in to sort of fill his shoes is, I don't know, I hesitate to give the Democrats this much credit, but I actually think they've played a blinder with this one because i think what they're doing if you know if they are as uh intelligent and machiavellian as i'm giving them credit for um what they've done is they have uh gotten rid of biden and they have installed somebody who is so unelectable the only politician more unelectable than biden in his stead because they know that they've already lost this election they know that trump is going to win i think it's basically inevitable at this point, especially in the wake of the assassination attempt and all the rest of it. And so what they've done is they've recognized

this fact and they've chosen two people, two faces, Biden and Harris, who do represent this very, very bizarre period of American politics where things were just, it's just been crazy. It's been a crazy four years in America. It feels almost like a dream state. And so if they can sink down all of that stuff from COVID to BLM to Ukraine, if they can sink it all down with Biden and Harris and start afresh after the election, I think that's great politics. It's really good. If they could bring in someone like Gavin Newsom, for example, to lead the party and kind of represent a new way, a new vision, a new face of the party, actually quite similar to what Keir Starmer did to lead the party and kind of represent a new way, a new vision, a new face of the party, actually quite similar to what Keir Starmer did to the Labour Party, quite frankly,

in the wake of Jeremy Corbyn. I think that that's actually very intelligent. Now, that's not to say that I support them, because obviously I don't. But, you know, just reading the situation as it is, looking at it through a value-free lens, if that's what they're doing, then I commend them. Goodness me. I hope you're right. But there's real concern now amongst Trump's inner circle that actually Harris is going to provide much more of a threat. And we saw a real change in tone from the Donald overnight. I think he agreed with you when Biden was still in place that he was going to walk this thing and he was going to change his language and become much more of a unifier, uniter. But at this rally last night, with Kamala now as the sort of presumptive nominee, really, I mean, she's got it, he totally changed tack. Watch this.

You know, I was supposed to be nice. They say something happened to me when I got shot. I became nice. And when you're dealing with these people, they're very dangerous people. When you're dealing with them, you can't be too nice. You really can't be. So if you don't mind, I'm not going to be nice. Is that OK?

They want me to be nice. Is that OK? They want me to be nice. See, to me, Charlie Sanson, that is a worried Trump. Do you think so? I think this is just Trump going back to type. Trump has always taken shots at people. And I think, well, I can't wait to see the kind of comments he makes with regards to Kamala Harris in the upcoming election. You know, some of his highlights in the past are just astronomically funny. I mean, they're unbelievable. And I can't wait to see what happens. I don't think he's worried whatsoever. I think he's calm. I think he's actually rather settled at the prospect of actually having a challenge. Charlie Downs, we are being gaslit, especially Americans by the MSM at the moment, who are literally lying over Kamala Harris. But I don't know, do you not think there

is a certain power in that sort of ability to try and create Kamala as this great progressive hero? Or do you think they're making the same mistake as they made with Hillary Clinton back in 2016, where actually there was a real disconnect between the polls and the celebrity endorsements and actually how real Americans felt? I do think it's different because it seems to me that the most powerful elements of the kind of regime that governs America and the West more generally, to be honest, they seem to see the writing on the wall about Trump and they seem to be making their peace with the fact that Trump is coming back because the level of hysteria in 2016 is unlike anything I've seen before or since. I mean, around Trump, I mean, it was madness. They they were actually losing their minds around him but the same thing isn't happening this time around they

seem to be a lot more um like i say they've made their peace with the fact that trump is going to be president again and i think again those people who occupy the highest positions of authority within the power structure that governs america they're not stupid people like as much as we'd like to think that they're all idiots, there are actually some extremely intelligent people within the ruling class of America. And those people, I think, are thinking the way that I was talking about before, which is they recognize that been footage of her in the past where it's looked like she's drunk um and she's quite sort of she's been very condescending to people and this sort of thing so she's a very unpalatable character and so i think that they are um you know looking at trump as being the next president and they're just trying to make the best of that kind of situation the two charlies charlies and Charlie Sansom, my superstar panel.

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which we see permeating so many aspects of our life today and I want to talk to you in just a moment about J.K. Rowling hitting out at the Labour government. But first, this breaking scandal involving Mr. Beast, who is, of course, one of the biggest names on the internet, one of the biggest names on social media. And Mr. Beast's almost like companion, right-hand man for a long time, Chris Tyson, who recently transitioned to become a woman or a trans woman, even though Chris Tyson is a father to children and married to a wife. So this is quite a fascinating story anyway, quite an odd story. But what's interesting now, James, is that there have been claims that Chris Tyson was actually grooming younger children who were underage. Now, I should stress this has been strenuously

denied by Chris Tyson. But what's interesting is that we have immediately seen this sort of story described as being transphobic. And the BBC, for example, have been really careful with their headlines and everything to use the right pronouns of this Chris Tyson. So what's going on here? What's your take on this one? Because it's an odd story. It certainly is. And it's good to be here, Dan, and chatting to you. I believe in innocent until proven guilty. The accusations being levelled at Tyson, pretty horrific, if true. You know, grooming over a lengthy period of time, a young child, despicable, if true. I'm more concerned about what we do know, which is the media reporting of this. And I would say throwing out of the window any concept of journalistic integrity,

because the media seem far more preoccupied with getting Tyson's new preferred pronouns right than actually doing justice to the allegations and accusations. I mean, Rolling Stone put out a headline which essentially said, you know, Tyson leaving Mr. Beast in light of transphobic attacks. And it's only when you go on and actually read the article that you see any reference to the allegations of grooming. Similarly, the BBC is the national broadcaster making a whole song and dance about Tyson's transition, gender affirming surgery, chosen pronouns. It's all very bizarre because we should be able to rely on our national broadcaster to support fact and reality over fiction and delusion. And, you know, this links to... Especially when we're talking about potential sex crimes, where actually someone's sex,

someone's biological sex is really important, right? And it makes me feel absolutely sick when I see the BBC or the Mail, Daily Mail's terrible at this now, they will be talking about a rapist in a headline, yet they will refer to the rapist as she or her, because that is the rapist's preferred pronouns her because that is the rapist preferred pronouns probably by the way because they're trying to enter into a female jail for very obvious reasons and the media class has just got this one so wrong it's it's it's a disgrace you know you have to put yourself in the shoes of a victim of one of these heinous crimes. And you've got a position now, I mean, let's take the Tyson case, in which the focus and the sympathy seems to be with Tyson

because he's been misgendered and these supposed transphobic attacks. And there seems to be far less sympathy doing the rounds on social media for the child victim in this. It's, you know, and also I don't want to pretend that I can get inside Tyson's mind, but it is interesting how here he is and, you know, early last year decides to transition, quote unquote, and then all of a sudden, not so long after these allegations surface. And we've seen other examples of this, in which people seem to transition just before

some dodgy, you know, sex abuse allegations come out. Yeah, so potentially, they could be hiding behind the whole trans thing to try and avoid scrutiny. It is worth me reading, we just saw it, but this is what Ava Chris Tyson tweeted, I would like to apologize for any of my past behavioral comments. If it hurt or offended anyone, it was not my intent. Seeing recent events, we've mutually decided it's best I permanently step away from all things Mr Beast and social media to focus on my family and mental health. as you point out the Rolling Stone take on this was nothing actually about the allegations it was Mr Beast defends BFF Ava Christensen against far-right transphobic attacks and again we'll just clarify there's nothing far right about reporting on potential grooming of children.

That is just a legitimate story. While I absolutely agree, having had false allegations made against me, there absolutely has to be a case where there is innocent until proven guilty, of course. But for Rolling Stone and the rest of the MSM to immediately leap in and describe this as far right and transphobic just shows that they have absolutely no desire to properly cover the story and this is the problem isn't it James when things start to become transphobic it's just like Islamophobia a lot of journalists a lot of commentators just think, oh, I don't want to cover this at all. It's just too scary to even go there. Well, precisely. And so you can in some

ways understand why this is happening, because these journalists and these networks don't want to be brandished as transphobic or bigoted or what have you. But again, particularly our national broadcaster has a duty to report impartially and factually. And they don't seem to be doing this. I mean, they haven't really done this on the entire trans debate at all. They gave very, if any, airtime to the closure of the Tavistock, to the recent Hillary Cass review.

But instead, on almost a daily basis, I'm seeing the BBC putting out articles about drag queens. I mean, it's really quite concerning. The BBC is a disgrace. They're a complete disgrace. I mean, look at some of their output for young children, which absolutely pushes this sort of ideology. So the BBC cannot be trusted to report fairly on issues of gender because they have woke ideology seeping out of every pore. And it actually makes me sick because the BBC cannot be trusted now to cover even simple biology. And when you can't trust your national broadcaster to do that, the national broadcaster, in my view, and I know this is a different discussion, but should be defunded. But look, I want to move on to J.K. Rowling because she has lashed out big time, and I

completely agree with her, by the way, at the new culture secretary, a very stupid, silly woman called Lisa Nandy. So this is J Rowling. She said a woman who thinks trans identified sex offenders should be in the prison of their choosing was hardly going to balk at males in women's sport, was she? Lisa Nandy told us loudly and proudly who she was pre-election. She's one of the main reasons I couldn't vote Labour, which is a big deal coming from JK Rowling, given she had been a major supporter of Labour in the past. And this is because of these stupid, woke, infuriating comments made by Nandi who is now the woman in charge of sport in her role as Culture Secretary because remember that department also covers sport and media

where she said trans athletes should be allowed in women's sport. Now that is just utterly sickening that we now have a cabinet minister responsible for sport with that sort of ideology James as a massive defender of women's sport specifically netball I have long been campaigning on this issue because let me tell you you've got seven uh members of a netball team right all you need is one of those players to be a biological man and you might as well go home it just completely changes the level playing field so i think this is a real worry that we have nandy in this role i agree uh you know the risks are there to be seen not just in terms of fair competition, but people are going to get injured.

You know, while some sporting bodies have come around to the right way of thinking on this, such as cycling and rugby, you've got other sports such as football. This is just in the UK. I mean, it's a complete mess around the globe more generally. But you know, someone is going to get injured or even killed when you've got these blokes facing off against these women. I mean, Nandi's comments have essentially tried to fudge the situation and kind of pass the buck and say, you know, back onto the sporting bodies and say, well, you know, it's a matter for each sporting body to decide on. But that, in my view, is ludicrous because we know the inherent physiological advantages that men have over women when it comes to sports and athletics.

And so it doesn't really matter what the specific sport is. Men will have an unfair advantage regardless of this and again you know pushing it back to the sporting bodies many of these bodies become fixated on testosterone they say well if someone identifying as a woman has a certain amount of testosterone in their body that they've reduced down to well then that's okay but this misses the point that simply going through the male puberty provides such significant advantages in terms of bone structure, strength and all the rest of it. So it's a complete fudge. I'm not surprised because Nandi has, in opposition, made plenty of comments showing her kind of devotion to gender ideology, and she's simply

carrying along with it now that she's in government i know and actually it's so worrying because for all of their faults one of the areas where the conservative government was very strong and very reliable from liz truss to nadine dorries who who held these roles as culture secretary, even Michelle Donlan, to be honest, was protecting females in sport. And the fact that that has now gone out the window within a week of this woke Labour government is really terrifying, actually. Now, look, James, I want to finish on Elon Musk, because I spoke about this in quite some detail earlier in the week but it is really worth playing again just a smaller portion of this extraordinary

interview which I think is a game changer when it comes to the parents of so called trans children being prepared to speak up and talk about the horror of them effectively losing their child to this ideology,

or as he puts it here, the woke mind virus. Watch. All right, so the reason it's called dead naming is because your son is dead. So my son Xavier is dead, Killed by the woke mind virus. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. I can't imagine what that would be like. Yeah. So.

Yeah, and there's lots of people in that situation now. Right. It's not pretty. And lots of demolished kids. Yes. Yeah, well, that's a good reason to be the final straw. All right, so let's... So I vowed to destroy the woke mind virus after that.

And James, you actually tweeted, gender ideology must be eradicated from society and those who have been responsible for the sterilization and mutilation of children must be punished and Elon following that interview replied saying yes so clearly this is an issue that the richest man in the world and arguably one of the most powerful men in the world now that he owns x is going to be backing you on. But how significant do you think this interview

is going to be in terms of changing the tenor of the debate? I hope it's going to be extremely significant because watching it back then, and I've seen it multiple times now, I'm still moved by it. And it's particularly moving given this, Elon doesn't

normally talk about these type of things you know most of the time obviously people are talking about his his businesses um extremely moving it's it's a tale that unfortunately i have heard time and time again i'm constantly being reached out to by parents who have gone through a similar thing particularly concerning was when Elon effectively said that the clinicians essentially said that you know if you don't support your child in this and taking puberty blockers well they might end up dead i.e you know they might kill themselves and this is a disgusting politicisation, weaponisation of the concept of suicide, so much so that the government have just recently put out a report debunking these claims that's not allowing children to take puberty blockers will cause them to kill themselves. But again,

if you're a parent faced with that decision, what are you going to do? It puts them almost in the impossible bind. I really hope that Elon's moving story makes people wake the hell up, because this has been going on across the globe for many, many years now. And so many children have suffered irreversible damage because of it um i i just pray that things are going to change and whilst things are getting better in the united kingdom across the world it's chaos on this topic especially in america and you say it's getting better and yes it is but we have folk like lisa Lisa Nandy in senior roles in the Labour government. So I think we cannot rest on our laurels when it comes to this issue, because this is a government who is trying and a prime minister, Slippery Stum, who is trying to appear moderate. But we know that on issues of trans and woke, that isn't really where they're

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