Dan Wootton Outspoken - LEFTIST SABOTAGE OF TOMMY ROBINSON'S UNITE THE KINGDOM EXPOSED AS NARINDER KAUR TWEETS GO VIRAL

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

Lauren The Insider & Don Keith join Dan for a special Unite The Kingdom rally 2026 preview show discussing the continued MSM slander against Tommy Robinson, if the right can unite and if the hard left... could infiltrate the event. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:18 which, by the way, should be coming very soon. Like any second now. Okay, Twizzlers, time to keep the fun going. No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden, and this is a very special. special edition of Outspoken as we are just one day away, one sleep away from Tommy Robinson's Unite the Kingdom Rally, one of the most significant and controversial cultural events of our time. Tomorrow, here on Outspoken, we will be broadcasting every minute of this rally
Starting point is 00:00:51 and March, giving you the honest and unbiased independent coverage that you simply will not get from the crooked and cooked MSM. Joining me are our hosts for what is. going to be a seismic UTK tomorrow. Independent journalist, Lauren the insider, and Don Keith, host of the real beef with Don Keith. Remember, both of these Patriots will be hosting Outspoken's all day's live stream of the rally in 26. Subscribe on Substack if you want to support our project,
Starting point is 00:01:26 www.outspoken.com. And we will have the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow. as normal after this special episode today. But now, let's go. The man responsible for the United Kingdom rally, Tommy Robinson, saw a historic gathering of British patriots, yet is still being slanded by the MSM. Make it make sense.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yep, despite the Overton window, shifting dramatically at a pace that our political class want to ignore, Tommy is still for some reason. reason being portrayed as the devil incarnate, amongst people, by the way, who should know better. Like G.B. News is Jacob Rees-Mogg, trying to swerve, restore Britain's Rupert Lowe, into that far-right trap using Tommy as his prey. Watch. One person who does seem to me to be far right is Tommy Robinson. But I assume you wouldn't want to be associated with him and his somewhat extreme statements.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm not associated with Tommy. I think, as I've said in the past, Tommy has been right about the rape gangs, and we haven't talked about our rape gang inquiry, which again, I think we should possibly touch. Which is a very important issue, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So, G.B. News actually has done the Robinson. I've given him credit, and the establishment for some reason I think fears Tommy Robinson because, you know, he is somebody who's been prepared. You've brought up in Luton's, you know, he saw at first hand what was happening. And the rape gang issue has been going on for
Starting point is 00:03:12 probably 50 years, but accelerating really after the Blairite sort of era, and particularly into the early 2000. So, and he was talking about it in 2001, 23. And he's been right. He's absolutely right about that issue. And I believe if somebody's right about something, you have to give them credit for it. But the establishment fears Tommy Robinson for some reason I'm not quite sure why I think they they I don't know what he has or hasn't done wrong I give him credit for being right on this he's got a criminal record for fraud Which is quite serious. That so have quite a lot of people Well he he he quite a lot of people have got a criminal record
Starting point is 00:03:57 Well not in the circles I move in not my haven't I haven't and you have some have there but but but so look I I I don't judge him for that but I he has been right on this Oh, good Lord. Good Lord. Look, there they are. Our hosts for this extravaganza of patriotism tomorrow, Lauren the insider and Don Keith, host of the real beef with Don Keith. Lauren, why?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Why is the MSM still trying to push this far right label? Like, oh, how frustrating is that? Well, they just want to catch Rupert out as well, so they're desperate for Rupert Lowe to fail. They have tried to silence him, to smear him, to censor him. And so what they're trying to do is they're trying to back Rupert Lowe into a corner. So he comes out and kind of cancels Tommy. And I'm afraid that Rupert Lowe has got bigger things to focus on quite rightly, like he said,
Starting point is 00:04:58 the rape gang inquiry. But what you're seeing here is Champagne Socialists interviewing political, leaders and so forth. And they are, this is what we all have to remember. These people are dangerous in my opinion because they're more outraged at, I don't know what it even was. Mortgage fraud, was it not? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:05:20 It's irrelevant because I don't get outraged at that. I get outraged at, hang on, what about the police that failed, the victims that Tommy was blowing the alarm on? What about the huge establishment cover? up. So the reason they all hate Tommy Robinson is because he was telling everyone decades ago. And I don't believe many people at the time probably listened. I'm sure there were some that did. But as time's gone on, we've all realised the real enemy is within the houses of Parliament. It is not Tommy Robinson.
Starting point is 00:05:56 100%. 100%. Don Keith, it is frustrating though, isn't it? Like so many people have moved so far. because we have seen what is happening to this country. We have seen the work that Tommy is doing. And to see so close to G.B. News, Jacob Rees-Mogg, a big conservative party figure, G.B. News, a huge part of the so-called right-wing ecosystem in the UK. Still baiting this drum, I think, sometimes does show how far there is to go, too. Yeah, I think Jacob is a perfect example of someone of high-level.
Starting point is 00:06:35 intellect who sacrifices their integrity to parrot the corporate interests and the propaganda and spew the propaganda. We've got a guy who was a Westminster under school, educated, Oxford University, served in parliament. He had high-level positions under Liz Truss and Boris Johnson, I believe. And yet after all of this time, the things that he's saying now, the things that everyone's saying now, are the same things that Tommy Robinson was saying 20 years ago that got him that terrible racist boogeyman label that he has to this day. And yet everyone else is free to, you know, I guess regurgitate the same things that Tommy's been saying,
Starting point is 00:07:17 but they're not called the racist and the boogeyman. You know, I once spoke with the... I'm sorry, good, Tom. Yeah, Matt Goodwin sort of, yeah, he said to me, I had him on my show and he said the exact same thing. If he had said the things he's saying now 20 years ago, when Tommy was saying, he would also be the racist boogeyman that Tommy is today. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Tommy was just right before anyone else. But it is utterly disgusting that they still play into this. And by the way, the hypocrisy of them garing about this mortgage fraud. I mean, I'm with Lauren. Literally don't give a damn. Literally do not give two shits. But it's like, oh, let's forgive Peter Filia. You know, let's forgive perjury.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Let's forgive Peter Mandelson and make him the ambassador of the United States. Let's forgive all of the connections to Jeffrey Epstein, but Tommy Robinson's mortgage fraud conviction 10 years ago, that was a bridge too far. But look, I want to talk to you both about your own relationship to Tommy Robinson because this is really interesting. Don, how did you, as an American, become one of the first people state side to become such a champion and an ally of Tommy? I mean, we know now, after what's happened over the last couple of weeks, he is a darling in your... country. But what was it that made you one of the so-called early adopters? Well, you know, I came across videos of Tommy probably 12, 13 years ago, probably on YouTube. And I just saw this guy with all this courage standing on the street facing down these Islamists on the street who were attacking him.
Starting point is 00:08:54 And he was just speaking his mind. He wasn't worried about political correctness and all these things. And he was standing alone. And I was like, well, who was this guy? He's got lots of courage. I'd like to meet him sometime. And I just happened to be taking a trip to a London a few years ago. And I reached out and said, hey, man, I'm coming over. And he and I had communicated online at various times. I say, hey, I'm coming over. I'd like to sit down with you and maybe have a coffee or a drink or something.
Starting point is 00:09:19 He's like, sure, come on. He was very welcoming. So I came over. It's a really cool story. It came over and we had Sunday roast with he and his family. And like I said, very, very welcoming guy. and I was going to do a one hour of video with him the next day. And he says, Don, I can't do the interview.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He says, I have to go to Scotland because some folks had called him up for the family of Chris Donald. It was the first racially motivated hate crime in Scotland. It was the 20th anniversary. The family wanted to hold a visual. The government wouldn't let the family do it. So they called Tommy like Batman to come and help them. And the government ended up saying, okay, you get in Tommy involved. We'll let you hold the vigil.
Starting point is 00:09:59 But anyway, Tommy's like, I've got to go do this. why don't you come spend a week with Tommy traveling across the UK? And we're going to see all these sites and do all these fun things, you know? And I looked at the missus and said, should we go sightseeing or go hang out with, you know, Britain's most wanted for a week? Do the rail sightseeing. Yeah. So anyway, but I just fell in love with the guy because he was so welcome.
Starting point is 00:10:21 He introduced me to the people of Britain and they were so welcoming. And I just really fell in love with the whole country. And I saw the type of person that he is and the champion that he is for the people. I saw how the people, you know, unlike the media, want you to believe how they accept Tommy. Even, I'll tell you this one story. We were walking through the airport. And, you know, we've heard for years and years, Tommy's this terrible racist guy walking through the airport. A black man with his family was walking by and he bumped Tommy's fist.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And the little boy looked up at his dad and said, Dad, who was that? And he said, that was Tommy Robinson's son, a man who knows. And I was like, wow. So, I mean, the narrative that the media gives you about Tommy is a complete lie. I think most of the people know it's a lie now, and I think the rest of the Great Britain and Europe are catching up. Yeah, and you have been such a big part of telling the real story, Don Keith, which is why that I am so delighted that you were going to be helping outspoken's coverage down in central London tomorrow, because, I mean, it is going to be quite a day.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I'm looking forward to it, and I appreciate it. I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you. Now, Lauren Lanfaro, your story is utterly incredible and totally different to Don's, actually. and for people who don't know, because obviously they'll know you as a regular on this show, and I know so many outspoken viewers also watch your channel, Lauren, the insider. But it is worth us just talking a little bit about our backgrounds, isn't it, Lauren? Because we knew each other through the mainstream media world when I was in an executive role for Rupert Murdoch. And you were one of the top PR operatives whose job was effectively to save the scene. skin really of high profile celebrities. And I mean, you've known this world, Lauren, for your
Starting point is 00:12:02 entire life, your godfather is George Michael. I mean, you could not be more connected to the British mainstream media and the British elite class. So when I saw, and I was so happy when I saw it, when I first saw you getting into this world, it was such a shock to me. But you have become such a huge talent, such a huge voice in this country, your YouTube channel. is incredibly powerful and I think is going to become more powerful. But I'm fascinated to know what it was that takes you from the person who I first knew when you were working in this world of showbiz and sort of mainstream media and all of that to all of a sudden working for Tommy Robinson's Urban Scoop.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So I left media when I had my children. I just couldn't do it anymore. I felt that the whole Epstein case for me and a half. I saw the victims treated in the media and the weaponisation of money power and influence. I just didn't want to be part of that anymore. And it had been building and building. So I just left. I closed my company and I decided to set up an Instagram, I'm just outing a lot of things that happen in the industry and came on to your show. And I spoke about Tommy. I had never met him. And I'm sure when I was in mainstream,
Starting point is 00:13:25 I held wrong beliefs. as well about him as well, because when you're part of that system, you're preconditioned. You are kind of made to feel outrage if something doesn't fit the narrative. And so when I came on your show, I said, I just don't understand why people are outraged at him. This is misplaced because where's the outrage for what's happened to British children? And I emailed the link to Urban Scoop and I said, hi, I was just on Dan's show and I really respect. Tommy and everything that he's done just in case you didn't see it. And I got a reply saying, would you like to present a unite the kingdom? And I was like, oh, that sounds good, but I'd never
Starting point is 00:14:09 presented before. So it was a bit Bridget Jones, Dan. It was like, oh, the mic's not working and I'm running around. But you were bloody brilliant. I saw you in action there. It was quite something. I loved. I just loved it. It was one of the best days of my life. And, you know, I was never political, growing up. You couldn't have, like, I just couldn't get interested in it. I thought it doesn't affect me. And then when you have children
Starting point is 00:14:35 and you see what's happening in the country, it does affect you. And so I've worked, you know, a lot independently and also I've done things with urban scoop because I really, really value the work that Tommy has done. And I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:52 I sometimes, I go on about it to people because what the mainstream media have done to Tommy Robinson is absolutely criminal. And I've always said they come, you know, if they try and cancel Tommy and they try and weaponize everything,
Starting point is 00:15:10 but they have to understand now, they're coming for all of us. And so whichever mainstream media outlet it is, they are demonising someone that actually represents millions and millions of people. And I feel that, that Tommy Robinson is the best journalist this country has and will ever see.
Starting point is 00:15:31 But Lauren, you have been shunned and cancelled by people in Chobas circles and royal circles and polite society. And you believe that it is because you spoke up for Tommy Robinson. That is the reason why they decided to disassociate from you. Yeah, I mean, look, I've had royal YouTubers call me a Nazi, call me Eva Braun. call me a white supremacist. And the irony is a lot of my work is focused on actually, I don't care what color people are, what religion they are. I am very adamant about safeguarding, of course, for all children.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You know, standing against certain things doesn't make you a racist. So I've lost a lot of people for speaking out. But I'm not, I wouldn't change a thing. thing because how can we as a nation sit back and not use our voices? Because what was happening in Luton all those years ago is still happening now. This cover up continues. And there is something very wrong with society when the man that calls the alarm on the mass rape of our children, he's the one that's the boogeyman according to, you know, a lot of people and the mainstream media. And I think actually in moments like this, you can get really frustrated. But what they all
Starting point is 00:17:02 don't realize is that there is, I truly believe there is a bond between patriots. And it is so lovely, like it's giving me goosebumps. Because when you see them, it's just this unwritten kind of everyone's together. And I've never felt as safe as I have around patriots. I mean, that vibe at United the Kingdom last year, and we were all there. We were all so lucky to experience it. And I hope, because obviously we had millions of people watching from around the world, and my hope was to try and present that real positivity and hope through darkness, of course, because of the Islamist takeover of this disunited kingdom in our broadcast. I think we were able to manage that. I mean, I certainly had so much positive feedback from people saying that they could sense that hope and
Starting point is 00:17:47 that positivity from the despair, and hopefully we can do the same thing tomorrow. But Don Keith, what Lauren talks about from a mainstream media perspective is so shocking, isn't it? And I guess I have some type of insight into this, Don. I mean, no one will ever find me having slagged off or attacked Tommy Robinson during my time in the mainstream media, unlike a lot of people, like Patrick Christie's, for example. However, I was silenced, you know, like there was absolutely no way that if I wanted to broadcast on GB News, which, Obviously, I did because I thought G.B. News was going to be such an important launch for the United Kingdom. Unfortunately, I don't think it's turned out to be what I hoped it would be.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But even at GB News, even at talk radio, even at the Daily Mail, you know, there was this absolute pact, really, that if you did support Tommy Robinson, you had to shut up. That was it. You had to shut up. So you are only allowed to talk about Tommy Robinson if you were prepared to put. the three words in front of his name, far right extremist. I was obviously never prepared to do that. So the only option was to shut up. And actually the greatest thing, I think, from being independent on a whole load of levels is not having to be shut up. And finally, I was able to report honestly about Tommy Robinson's work. But it's really difficult if you want to stay in the mainstream, because you are simply banned from doing so. Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, it's funny, too. what the mainstream media does not tell you is that the actual racists in your country and the people
Starting point is 00:19:27 who have this racial purity test to determine whether or not you're Britain, you have to be white. If you're black, even if you espouse conservative principles and you love free speech and all the things that make Britain what it's supposed to be, those people, the racial purists, they hate Tommy Robinson, they despise him because he is not like that. Tommy believes that anyone who believes in the conservative principles and traditions and the culture of Britain who believe in that are welcome. He welcomes them. But doesn't matter what color their skin is or any of those things,
Starting point is 00:19:57 but the racial purists, they hate Tommy. The mainstream media will never tell you that, because like you said, they need that boogieman to point out and say, see, we're not like him. Vote for us because we love you and we're going to give you free stuff. So they need that Tommy Robinson boogeyman, but I think they're going to have to find a new one
Starting point is 00:20:14 because I think people are waking up to who Tommy Robinson really is, and they're seeing the real Tommy Robinson now. And I'm 100% behind you with that pact at G.B. You can see it. You can see it in every one of their, the people that they still have with them and the people that they've let go in the past. If you look at what they've done to Ben Habib, who started his own party that was countered to the beloved reform, which they worship on the altar of Nigel Farage. If you do anything counter to Nigel, Nigel hates Tommy. If you praise Tommy, we can't have you on our show.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Look what they did to Calvin Robinson, yourself, other. who went across the grain of what they want you to say, then G.B News cut you cut you out of their life, pretty much. So that's the way I feel about it. Shame on there. No, you're completely right. The thing is, the British right is tearing itself apart at the moment, though. That is pretty hard to deny. I guess on one side, you've got the dying conservatives
Starting point is 00:21:16 and that's sort of still clinging to the center ground, but we saw from Jacob Rees-Mogg, they are never going to be open to Tommy. Then, Don, as you point out, there's Reform UK, who have been trying to appeal to the left and distance themselves from grassroots supporters and been, to be honest, totally vile about Tommy Robinson now over a number of years and months.
Starting point is 00:21:41 However, Rupert Lowe's new Restore Britain and Ben Habib's Advance UK have restored some faith on the right. They have grown really as a result of Reform UK's shift to the left, while UKIP's main focus remains on Christianity. But some people say this divide poses a serious threat, a deadly Islamist coalition with the Green Party, the SNP party, the Lib Dems and dying Labor managing to come together to stop a right-wing government. And many say we're in the last chance saloon at saving Britain from the brink of destruction. and that the next general election will determine the disunited kingdoms fate forevermore. So I guess the question is, can we save our country from this left-wing coalition from hell if we remain totally split from each other and at each other's throats?
Starting point is 00:22:34 So the Unite the Kingdom hosts here on Dan Wooden outspoken, Don Keith of the Real Beef and Lauren the insider back with me. Lauren, this is a real dilemma, isn't it? because the problem for me is that I don't really care anymore when people say, oh, you've got to go with Nigel because, you know, he's the only hope. He's the only chance we've got to win. No, no, no. I'm sorry. Sometimes there has to be a line.
Starting point is 00:23:01 There has to be a line. And I think he crossed that line when he tried to get Rupert Lowe arrested. But he also crossed that line when he wrongly accused Tommy Robinson of beating up his own wife while he was behind bars and unable to fight back. I think that the treatment from Nigel Farage towards Tommy Robinson is disgusting and this is what
Starting point is 00:23:25 I get so angry about. Look, I'm not a mouthpiece for Tommy. I say what I want when I want. You know that Dan. I'm quite uncomfortable. Absolutely likewise. But I feel that this is such a clear sign to me that Nigel is very establishment. You only
Starting point is 00:23:43 are outraged at Tommy Robinson. if you are within that establishment, whether it's, you know, that corrupt political arena, I believe it is, or whether it's the mainstream media. And the way they've treated Rupert Lowe is absolutely disgusting. Now, yes, we are at a very crucial time and the right is incredibly divided. But just think, a couple of years ago, I still think there were a lot of people that probably wouldn't say the word Tommy Robinson. I go at places now and then people say,
Starting point is 00:24:18 and this is even when there are lefties there, they say, oh, what do you do? And I say, and I now just like saying it to see people's faces. I'm not ashamed. I am so proud of being part of a movement that has a moral compass and has its, you know, priorities firmly in place. So I think there's still a lot of time for restore and advance to pick up more support because every day more people are waking up
Starting point is 00:24:44 And ultimately, this movement is just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. If we look at Unite the Kingdom last year, I mean, there was over a million people there. It was unbelievable. And this was an event that, you know, it didn't have a marketing budget. It didn't have, you know, all of these other things that big events have. And people were there because we are understanding we, the 99% we have the power. We can peacefully exercise our debt. democratic rights, we can come together and we make us stand and we will be on the right side of
Starting point is 00:25:20 history. So I think, you know, yes, reform have lots of donors from everywhere else but this country and yes, they have treated Rupert Lowe and Tommy in the most abhorrent way, but people are waking up and in days when I feel like, oh, you feel how bad that the country is in everything, you then think, no, it's not over yet. We can still, we can still make a difference. And that is why, you know, unite the kingdom is so important. It is more than just a rally. It is the uniting of patriots who want to make it a better place, a safer place. And every single person is there because they know originally what happened in Luton and what happened to Tommy and has consistently happened to Tommy since.
Starting point is 00:26:12 We know that is fundamentally wrong. And we have, you know, they've tried to shame us. They've tried to gaslight us. And nothing works now. It's like, what do you want to do now? Do you want to say, are we conspiracy theorists? Are we white supremacists? It's like none of that, none of it's true.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And we know we're good people. And so these are just common tactics to try and slow the movement down. Totally. But Don Keith, I think the thing that is most frustrating for me, is that Tommy Robinson is the one who throughout all of this remains completely magnanimous. So he endorsed Reform U.K. and Nigel Farage at the general election. Actually, he may have been in part responsible for the surge, at least part of the surge, that Reform U.K. had at the last general election.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Then Nigel Farage still went on the attack. And then, Don, sorry, just before you come in, I was just going to say, He also invited this year, even after everything, Nigel Farage to speak, Cammy Badenock to speak, Rupert Lowe to speak. He wants everyone to come together, yet they keep turning on him. Yeah, I know reform seems to be the preferred party of anyone who is just right of center. But I think they're going to have a lot of trouble, especially after this week, we found out that Nigel Farage accepted a gift of $5 million from Christopher Harbon.
Starting point is 00:27:38 on this tech titan millionaire who the implication is that he paid Nigel to run. And as I understand it, any money you receive up to a year before standing for an election, you're supposed to report. And Nigel has hid that money. So we know how bad the left hates Nigel Farage because he is right now the foremost candidate and likely contender to win his party to win. So we know that they're not going to let this go. And we may see reform in some trouble here in the near future.
Starting point is 00:28:05 So the right has really got to come together. I don't see how they can do it and be so fractured. You've got UK, Advanced UK, Restore and Reform, and all these parties on the right that are fracturing your entire electorate. These people have to come together. These voters have to come together to save the country. That's the only way I see it. And I think this UTK rally we're going to see is we're going to see all of those
Starting point is 00:28:29 different fractured divisions on the right come together. That's one great thing about the UTK. You can have these minute differences and still come together at this event and appreciate the Great Britain, the storied, ancient, Great Britain for all it is and all it has been, all it will be, hopefully, as traditions, cultures, and values, you can come together and appreciate those things and get rid of those minute details that you may, that may be different between you. But, yeah, UTK, it's a great place for that. And like you said, Tommy is very welcome.
Starting point is 00:29:01 He's very forgiving when it comes to the country. His ultimate goal is saving the country and he's willing to forgive and forget where Nigel Farage is concerned because he knows that Nigel is a big draw and hey a reform victory is much better than a labor, a green or a conservative party victory.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And Don, he's also standing by the fact too that he doesn't actually want to be a politician which I think seems to be a common misconception. He is determined for there to be a cultural movement, a cultural revolution, led by him, via Unite the Kingdom, and then a political movement,
Starting point is 00:29:37 which I think initially he hoped would be launched by Ben Habib and advance you can. Of course, Ben gave that incredible speech at the UTK rally and is expected to speak tomorrow too. But, Don, let's just be honest about it. It does look now very much like
Starting point is 00:29:53 that new political challenge to Reform UK on the right is going to be led by Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain. Yeah, Rupert certainly has the numbers. I think ultimately, we have, what, three years to go a little more maybe. I think ultimately you're going to see Ben and Rupert come together. There was a fervor in the air after Advance U.K. was announced, and everyone had a feeling that Rupert was going to announce something.
Starting point is 00:30:23 There was this big hope that those two would join. It would have been Titanic. I don't know why I do know why it didn't happen. I actually was speaking to both of them off-line. line trying to help them work it out and, you know, whatever difference they had. What happened, Don, because no one can work this out because Ben Habib was so positive about it and then turned so viciously. So why did they fall out? I mean, I think I have some idea, but what's your understanding? Yeah, well, there were some communications. Ben's talked about them,
Starting point is 00:30:51 so I can talk about them a little bit. I can't reveal everything because some of it was in confidence, but there was some indication that Rupert was going through email communication. I've seen the communication that email. There was the indication that Rupert was going. going to join together with Ben in some fashion. And so there was some, I think there was some money spent and some finances that went out the window towards that. And he went, Rupert went the other way. Now, while he did that, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I'm not, you know, trying to disparage Rupert by any means. I like Rupert. I like what he stands for. But there was an indication, I'll just say there was an indication that the two were going to join. And at the last minute, he decided not to. which totally threw, I think, a kink in everyone's plow line, as we say here in the States, because everyone was so excited, so excited by those two gentlemen joining up.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I just think it would have been cataclysmic for the left. And I think it would have been cataclysmic for Nigel Farage and Reform as well if those two had joined up. And I think right now it's sad that they didn't, but I still feel like eventually they will come together. I think one of the holdbacks for Ben right now is the, I guess, the invasion of the ethno-nationalist to try to put some sort of damper on the restore and make it look like it's something it's not. I don't believe that's the direction Rupert wants to take it personally, but I think there are those within Restore who believe that that's what Rupert wants. So they're trying to make it seem that way when that's not the case. So if he can get rid of those folks, those racial purists in Restore, I think the sky's the limit. But, you know, I just saw this week that even reform with the numbers they have, they don't have enough to form a majority right now.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So it's going to be tough for any party on the right unless they join. And what you're getting at the moment is a lot of dishonesty from the mainstream media from propagandists like GB News. Of course, the local election results were brilliant for reform UK, but Restore Britain was only standing in Great Yarmouth. And right now, most of the polling companies are totally against Rupert and restore. And that hasn't all played out. Lauren, I've got, I guess, I like to have both sides here. Not to scream with anything that Don is saying. And you know I'm a big fan of Ben Habib.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Actually, Ben Habib was the second ever guest on Outspoken. The first ever guest on Outspoken was Richard Tice. The second ever guest was Ben Habib. So I've been a huge supporter of Ben and I've been really. one of the only media organizations to be there for Advance UK and to follow it every step of the way. But when I speak to my sources within Restore Britain, Lauren, they make it clear that Ben Habib was offered the deputy leadership of Restore Britain. But the problem is he wanted to import a lot of the sort of mechanisms of Advance UK over to Restore Britain. And Rupert Lowe didn't
Starting point is 00:33:51 want to do that. And the thing is, Ron, without wanting to get into the weeds, because no one to go into the weeds on this, but it has been a little bit dysfunctional behind the scenes of Advance UK. And so personally, I think it would have been great if Ben Habib had taken on the deputy leadership of that party and then they could have worked to unite. So I'm just trying to say that there are two sides to this story and I love both men. So I'm very disappointed but I don't think it's totally straightforward that like one is in the wrong here and the other is not. No, I mean, I really respect Ben Habib and everything that he's done. I think he offers so many unique insights as well into what's going on at the moment.
Starting point is 00:34:36 His plan for advance is brilliant. I interviewed him recently about the fact the Taliban are in the UK. And he spoke about the dangers of some migrants from certain parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan. and he was explaining that, you know, these insights he has, he's half Pakistani. And so he was explaining that if I, for example, went to certain areas in Pakistan, I would potentially be raped and murdered. And he said some of these people are coming over to this country. And this is why we are seeing such a crisis that is attacking our women and children.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I think Ben has some incredible ideas. And like I say, his insights, he's very measured. and I think he's very fair and balanced. I believe that there is still hope for Ben and Rupert to come together. I'm just saying that is my opinion. They haven't said that to me. But I think there is, we've still got a long time. Things are rapidly changing within the right.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I mean, you go to bed, don't you? You wake up and it's like, oh, right, that's happened. You know, it's moving at such a fast pace. So I still have hope. I had said to Ben, it was my Christmas wish for them to get together. It didn't happen. So I've now, I did offer to mediate. I have a two-year-old and a four-year-old. I'm very good at, you know, mediating between two fiery people. So even if it got, you know, fiery, I feel like I would be a good person to do this. But I have hope. I think it's a mistake. They haven't merged. But I don't know the ins and outs.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So we can but hope. And I think we just have to continue to move forwards and not get distracted. Because all of the time everyone on the rights, you know, all the time we're shouting at each other, we're not moving things forwards, are we? And that's exactly what we need to do. We need to be really coming together in this moment. Yeah, I mean, Don Keith, it does just feel nuts to me that these leaders are looking against, lift horse in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:36:48 It's like, sure, Reform UK can fill up like an arena in Birmingham and that's not a bad thing. Do you know what I mean? They are a very slick political operation. But this is millions of people. Millions and millions of people on the streets of London
Starting point is 00:37:06 who are absolutely desperate to see a political solution to this. And Tommy Robinson says, Tommy Robinson says, come on. Come on down. you know, come on and just speak. That's not an endorsement. I know that's how the mainstream media would be portraying it,
Starting point is 00:37:24 but this wouldn't be any of those political leaders endorsing Tommy Robinson. It is an opportunity to speak to millions of patriots who feel politically homeless. And they say no. And to me, that is extraordinary, Don, because it's like, oh, they'll turn up to a goddamn interview on sly news or Wokai TV or the Peter Phillips. British Bashing Corporation or Channel 4 News, you know, these media organizations, Don, that literally want to destroy them and they'll turn up there, but they won't turn up to unite the kingdom. And it's like, for me, that is such a frustration because I believe we're so far
Starting point is 00:38:03 behind where America is and where America was. You know, I think, Don, about the movements that you had to allow Trump the opportunity to get elected. And it really started with the Tea Party. And we're behind. And yet at the same time, Don, do you know what we're far ahead on here? And I know you're very well aware of it. The Islamist takeover. So it's like, we don't have a moment to lose. Yet these politicians still continue to play the establishment games, the mainstream media game. Sorry, I know I'm ranting, Don, but it just frustrates the hell out of me. No, I totally understand your frustration and you're 100% right. And quite frankly, it's not really smart if you're a politician you're trying to get your message out there and you're trying to grow
Starting point is 00:38:50 your base to um to be absent from such an event as the ut UK you know there was over a million folks there last year if you're going to say no to something like that well you're just i don't know who your advisors are but you need to fire them um so so yeah i'm i'm with you on that but uh it's just an event it's really to be honest with you dan the right has going to have to come together with the numbers so they have to compile all their numbers, because you're not only fighting other voters when it comes to the left, you're fighting the money machine. We all know that the left is well-funded
Starting point is 00:39:22 and that it's really a globalist takeover happening in all European countries. White Western European countries right now are being taken over by the Islam invasion and the invasion of the globalist corporatists who want this invasion to take place. So if you don't come together with the numbers, you're not going to only be fighting their side
Starting point is 00:39:41 and their voters, you're going to be fighting that money machine. So that's the only way to do it is overwhelming them with numbers. And the only way to do that is for the right to come together as one unit. That's the way I see it. Yeah, absolutely. But Lauren, how do you see that happening? Because I don't at the moment, although I'm also not worried about it yet, Lauren.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I mean, as Don said earlier, it's like there are potentially three more years before an election. A hell of a lot can happen in that time. And what I'm not prepared to do, Lauren, and I know this does upset. a lot of people, a lot of people who are watching who say, Dan, there is only one option here, and that option is Reform UK, and if you're not going with Reform UK and Nigel Farage, then you're not being patriotic
Starting point is 00:40:24 because you're taking this risk. But I'm not there yet, Lauren. I'm not there yet. I voted for Reform UK at the last election. It didn't mean they were perfect. It meant that they were strategically the right party to vote for at that moment. But until that moment arises again,
Starting point is 00:40:40 I'm going to fight tooth and nail for a party that I believe will actually make the changes required to save this country. And those changes are going to have to be dramatic. Like the woke weasel words of Nigel Farage saying, oh, there's no issue with demography and Tommy Robinson's a scumbag and, you know, like mass deportations are impossible. I'm sorry. It's not good enough.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I mean, look, for me, anyone that demonises Tommy Robinson, they're not getting my vote. And they're not getting my vote. Because evidently, anyone in a person, position of power in a political party that is too scared to be seen with Tommy Robinson, they're not having my vote because it means that they are part of that toxic ecosystem that has got us in this mess. Now, reform are a band-aid. They're not going to get to the root cause of the problem. They can't. They've got, you know, a lot of the people that got us in this
Starting point is 00:41:38 problem within their party as well. We have been let down for decades and decades. by our political parties and by our politicians, the entire thing needs to be gutted, emptied, and actually we need something drastic because what has happened in the United Kingdom is drastic. How are we in a position where it's absolutely normal for someone to be in a full face covering burqa? Yet when I question it, you know, I'm demonised.
Starting point is 00:42:09 This is absolutely insane. We need someone to stand up for, the people. We are good people and we want to preserve and protect our country. Last year's Unite the Kingdom rally sent shockwaves through the establishment. Remember the scenes tens of thousands followed by hundreds of thousands followed by the end of the day, millions of ordinary Brits marching through London, waving the Union Jack, demanding an end to open borders, two-tier policing and the Pakistani Muslim rape gang. cover up that shames our country. The media, the mainstream media, the crooked scumbags,
Starting point is 00:42:51 called these people extremists. They focused on a tiny, tiny number of arrests. The government, them tried to smear them, but we will still turn up in force anyway because that rally proved something massive. A sleeping giant of patriotic Brits has finally had enough of being ignored. Now this year, as the disunited kingdom without any doubt, seeks into deeper chaos and deeper trouble under labour. Unite the kingdom isn't just another march. It is so much more than that. It is a powerful statement that the silent majority will be silenced no more. And you will see every moment of it on outspoken tomorrow and our special cover. hosted by the star independent journalist Lauren the insider and Don Keith, host of the real beef with Don Keith.
Starting point is 00:43:53 So Lauren, what can we expect tomorrow? So you can expect to see everything that is at the rally. There are lots of people that were desperate to attend and couldn't attend. And so they watched your coverage last year, Dan, and they loved it. year it's bigger and better than ever before so we are going to be on the ground and don is going to be there with the speakers and capturing what is going on behind the scenes and i will be in the studio doing my best impression of you um and hosting the show to pull it all together i'm going to leave you a whole load of like red bull and everything too because it's going to be a long
Starting point is 00:44:40 day, isn't it? And Don, talk to me about what it is going to be like backstage and by that stage tomorrow, because last year, it was like the place to be. Yeah, we're going to see a lot of familiar faces. We're going to see a lot of laughing and joking and, you know, like I said, folks that you're going to recognize. We're going to see folks from all over the globe. I know my friend Dominic Tarzinski's coming in, some other leaders you will recognize. You will recognize. You're recognized from other other countries. It's just going to be a great time, Dan. People get together and they can laugh and we can, we can, you know, share our ideas without fear of reprisal from anyone listening nearby. We just come together as, you know, as one mind. We love our traditions,
Starting point is 00:45:28 our cultures and our values. And we're going to all be backstage sharing them and we're going to have a great time. There are, of course, the left-wing troublemakers. There always are. And I want to talk about them in two groups. So, Don, can I start with you? Because what is very clear, and we've just going to be honest about this, we've got to face it head on, is that there has been a desperate attempt by Antifa and the hard left. And I know some people, and Lauren might want to come in on this too, think government
Starting point is 00:46:00 operatives to infiltrate the United Kingdom Rally, to be wearing masks. And effectively, what they want to happen, Don, is violence. so that ordinary patriots can be blamed and that the mainstream media can say, terrible, bogeyman, Tommy Robinson, unite the kingdom, awful, lots of violence, it has to be cancelled. And that's why Tommy Donne has been so strong in terms of saying, no, masks are banned, no, this isn't going to be any type of three-day sitting because then they can throw us all in jail using the new laws that we used over the just stop oil protesters. But Don, what do people need to know and look out for tomorrow, given that I am highly confident that there is going to be an Antifa attempt to infiltrate and try and cause violence actually within the Unite the Kingdom Rally itself?
Starting point is 00:46:54 What should people be looking out for? How can they avoid that? Sure. Well, if Antifa is going to try to infiltrate, they're going to have a tough time. You know, I've met to every single one of these demonstrations. I think we're at seven or eight now. I can tell you, Tommy is very diligent about the planning and the detail that goes into the security. There's hundreds of stewards at this thing along with 30, 40, maybe 50 this time, security officers. They keep all the corners tight. They keep the entrances all tight. It's going to be really hard for anybody to get in there and cause trouble.
Starting point is 00:47:25 These have every single one have been very peaceful. Tommy walks the entire March route with the police beforehand so that the police can get an idea of where they need to set up, where there'll be bottlenecks, where they could be possible infiltrators or trouble happening. So Tommy has done a fantastic job. He's a fan. Not only is he a great journalist and documentary, the guy should really be an event organizer. He's so good at this stuff now. And they all come off so peacefully.
Starting point is 00:47:52 So Antifa can try. I think they may. I think it's going to be really hard for them, Dan, to be quite honest with you. I know people always have this fear, but I've been to eight of them and they've all been very, very peaceful. That is good news. That is promising news, actually. Yeah. Then we have the people. I disagree, Dan.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Oh, okay, good. Come in. Come in, Lauren. Oh, my goodness. So I do think the march and the event will be infiltrated because, and I don't mean by kind of anyone necessarily that would do harmed people. What I mean is last year they underestimated, the deep state underestimated, unite the kingdom. And so there was the images, wasn't there, of the riot police and everything. I predicted these headlines the day before on my social media because it's so obvious what the establishment would do. It's very hard for them to come back, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:48:49 When there's only 18 arrests, and you're looking at 18 arrests with well over a million people there, that's so small. There was more arrests at Notting Hill Carnival, obviously. It's quite a dangerous. Enderous event. Yeah, when I went to Notting Hill Carnival once, I went and got straight out. I did not feel safe there anyhow.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Then the establishment then couldn't argue, could they, with the aerial footage that Tommy put out, which clearly showed how many people there were. So then they tried to say it was just 100,000. Now, we have to look at the big picture here. We are now having, you know, putting the flag on a lamp post in Oxford is a criminal offence. we are being demonised. So if you were asking me in a professional opinion, I would strongly hold a belief that I believe that the deep state would position some people. Because all you have to do, don't you, is put someone in the crowd that can behave badly or be rude.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And what do they have to hold that little flag, don't they? And then, oh, we told you, they're terrible, these people. 100%. I get the point you're making. is it so small, this is a thing because they are so on the lookout. And even G.B News last year, I was disgusted with their coverage. They looked
Starting point is 00:50:09 at the fact that there was something like six arrests. Oh my God, six arrests? And an event like that, that's something that should be utterly celebrated. There was something like 850 at Notting Hill Carnival. But then I also want to speak about the hard leftists who are actually going to be out and force Lauren and admitting
Starting point is 00:50:25 what they're doing and who they are. So when I announced the fact that you were both hosting, the Unite the Kingdom rally on X, one of these people, Narinda Corr, who is part of the stand-up for racism mob, she actually replied and said, you can look at it here, I'll be on the opposing side. I don't think you will, Narinda. We've all seen your tweets.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Well, yes. Indeed. Indeed. And so I said why I thought you were a patriot, that's so sad to me. Oh, I've just realised I left out the apostrophe in that. Sorry, I feel. That was a very polite.
Starting point is 00:51:01 reply to her, Dan? Well, yes, because she replied the true Patriots will be opposing division and hate. Carl Benjamin rightly pointed out, that sounds divisive and hateful to me, Narenda. But as you pointed out, Lauren, Norenda, can you confirm if these shocking and racist tweets everyone is tagging are ones you historically posted? And actually, I think I can show you some of these tweets if we just give me one second. Look at this. Look at this. Yes, he did. But, But regardless, Muslims will always get a special treatment at the end of the day. Sikhs aren't doing any. This is talking back in 2012. They are so pissed scared of Muslims.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Why has David Cameron done a speech on Ramadan? We Sikhs don't get one for any of our religious days, nor do other religions. Why for Muslims? Well, it ain't Sikhs known as terrorists, only the Muslims. Well, firstly, I'm not Muslims. Secondly, if we want to accept John Terry, did call him a racist name. And they go on and on and on. And she also talks about the grooming gangs.
Starting point is 00:52:01 themselves. And it's interesting, isn't it? Because it shows you that so much of this left-wing protest, Lauren, is just a grift. Even Narenda Kaur doesn't believe what she's saying. It is a grift, and it's funded by the deep state as well. What I would say is to everyone coming to unite the kingdom, the rules, as we all know, are very clear, no face covering. And when I was at the Carols last year with Tommy an Urban Scoop, I actually went up to someone who was within the crowd wearing a face covering. And I said, you know the rules. If you are meant to be here, it's no face covering. And that was an Antifa that had got through there was secretly filming me. And they turned up to be divisive. I would say, Patriots, if you see someone wearing a mask, you could be
Starting point is 00:52:53 fairly sure it is not one of us. So I would, you know, let a police officer know or a steward because this simply, everyone knows the rules and they know that it's peaceful and that we all show our faces because we're there to exercise our peace, our democratic right peacefully. So you should be very aware if you see anyone in masks because that, you know, from rallies I've been to, Those seem to be cheeky little plants that I think are there to cause trouble. Don, what do you reckon? Yeah, you know, these events are very, very welcome. We have Christians, we have Sikhs, we have Hindus, even some Muslims have showing up for these,
Starting point is 00:53:39 and they've been very peaceful. So if some folks from Antifa want to come and peacefully watch and pay attention, but if they're coming in there to start trouble, and they attack folks, you would almost have to have a death wish to get in the middle of a million British patriots and attack some of them or start some trouble. I just, I don't know who would do that, you know, but I guess crazier things have happened, but I would advise against it if I were, you know, talking to Antifa, if I was giving them some advice, I would say, don't, don't come try to start trouble in the middle of a million British working class patriots because it's not
Starting point is 00:54:14 going to end well for you. No, indeed. It's not going to end well for you. You listen to Don key and look we are going to say more because because you know because you go back to America afterwards so you can say more than us we're like well you know I'm not I'm not suggesting that anybody become violent but people have to defend
Starting point is 00:54:35 themselves and you're you're really crazy if you get in the middle of a million people who are on the opposition and attack someone you know you know what I mean so it's not a good idea well look tomorrow's coverage is going to be absolutely unmissable I hope to pop up at some point just so people understand I am with my mom for her 70th birthday which is why I can't be
Starting point is 00:54:57 joining you but honestly I can't think of two people who are better and more ready for what is going to be one hell of an epic day live coverage begins in the morning of the unite the kingdom rally and march hosted by Lauren the insider and Don Keith the host of the real beef with Don Keith, thank you both so much and I cannot wait to watch every moment of what is going to be a historic day with you both tomorrow. Of course, do remember that it will be the largest gathering of Patriots this nation has ever seen. And of course, we are going to be there with Lauren and Don. And in the lead up to the historic Unite the Kingdom event, we have been revealing greatest Britain's connected every Friday. So this week, given it's the day before the event, come on,
Starting point is 00:55:53 it could only be one. It could only be one. The one and only Tommy Robinson. Let's take a look at the moment from his speech at last years Unite the Kingdom event. For the last 20 years, there has been a globalist revolution. They have attacked the family, they've attacked Christianity, They've opened the borders. They've flooded our nations. We are the start of a counter revolution. What a moment. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Look at this. Look at this. Look. Now, to make this year's event even bigger and better than last year, Unite the Kingdom needs your support. Here is a message from Tommy on how you can help. We're running out of time. The date is coming very soon, the 16th of May. For us to put an event like this,
Starting point is 00:57:00 we're basically putting on a concert bigger than oasis in central lung. That costs money. That's why we need support. It's impossible to do it without you. I hope at the last event when you saw those images go around the globe, if you were the one of the people who contributed, you watched it for, even if you couldn't make it there, you made that day possible.
Starting point is 00:57:21 You made the trajectory of patriotism, nationalism, whether it then flow into commentators, podcasters, politicians, political parties, they're all gaining confidence from the show of strength you made on the street on the 13th September. So please, if you can,
Starting point is 00:57:39 so we can put on such a successful, safe, beautiful, carnival event on the 16th of May. We need your support. Anything you can give us is hugely appreciate it. It's going to be a great day and if you can't go, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:57:59 As I said, Outspoken will be live streaming the event all day. Well, I'm very excited, very, very excited. Good luck, Don, good luck, Lauren. But don't worry, we're not done today. We are moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow. So at this stage, we come off YouTube. We move to our own platform to continue the conversation and the uncanneled after show. All you have to do is sign up at www. outspoken. Live. So remember, special live coverage of Unite the Kingdom all day tomorrow. Then I am back with you on Monday and I cannot wait. We will be live. 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific with all of the wrap up of whatever has gone down. Remember to subscribe right now on YouTube. Turn on the notification bell so you're alerted to our new episodes. You can also subscribe to us as a podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or if you get your podcast, actually.
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