Dan Wootton Outspoken - LONDON CONQUERED BY ISLAMISTS AS SADIQ KHAN HOSTS WORLD'S BIGGEST IFTAR IN TRAFALGAR SQUARE

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: London is conquered by Islamists as Sadiq Khan succeeds in taking over Trafalgar Square – centre of the UK’s VE Day celebrations over the Nazis just eight decades ago – to ho...st the biggest Iftar event in history, a blatant show of Muslim dominance over the native population. Even mainstream figures, including the increasingly outspoken leftist John Cleese and The Sun’s long-time political editor Trevor Kavanagh, are now admitting that the Disunited Kingdom is on a march to become an Islamic Republic. But it’s not enough, with leftist denialism sweeping Slippery Starmer’s Labour party, as they become ever more fearful about being replaced by an Islamist Green party. Dan will explain why Sadiq Khan’s display of Islamist dominance must be the wake up call we all need in his Digest. Then the Superstar Panel are here: Social commentator Leilani Dowding, host of Leilani’s Smallholdings YouTube channel, and freedom activist Elizabeth Fox. PLUS: New fears for Eamonn Holmes as he disappears from GB News after falling asleep live on air. AND: Disgust as Channel 5 allows hard leftist Carol Vorderman to take over its shows for an entire day. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Meghan Markle fights back against Tom Bower’s bombshell claims about the trouble in her marriage to Prince Harry, but no one is convinced. The Duke’s biographer and our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin will be here to analyse. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 This is outspoken episode number 400. 48, breaking right now, London, conquered by Islamists as Sadiq Khan succeeds in taking over Trafalgar Square, centre of the UK's VE Day celebrations over the Nazis just eight decades ago to host the biggest Iftar event in history, a blatant show of Muslim dominance over the native population. More people doing Iftar here today than ever before. We think we're going to break the record for the biggest ifthar, not just in London, not just in UK, not in Europe, but in the Western world.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Trying to cow us and scare us to be less Muslim, to be less Islamic, to make us scared to put ahead about the parapet. Even mainstream figures, including the increasingly outspoken leftist, John Cleese and the sons, long-time political leaders to Trevor Kavanaugh are now admitting that the disunited kingdom is on a march to become an Islamic republic. I think we're asleepwalking into becoming an Islamic republic. When you actually look at where we're going to be as early as, say, 2050, which is not really that far away, a lot of what we consider to be Britain and England will not really look like Britain and England in a meaningful sense. And the Greens apparently, if they win a general election, would actually drop the Church of England as Britain's established church.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I mean, whatever next. But it's not enough with leftist denialism, sweeping slippery Starmer's Labour Party, as their MPs become ever more fearful about being replaced by the Islamist Green Party. We would say that, well, if you were to be intimate with a 14-year-old, or, you know, 13-year-old who's got huge hips and huge breasts and huge breasts and huge body, I mean, quite frankly, we would say it's not going to have the same effect medically.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I mean, no one can make the argument. There's a far greater threat from far right than there is from Islam. The weaponisation of violence against women and girls by far right groups and political parties such as reform harms survivors and ultimately impedes the real work of tackling the root causes of society-wide violence to the detriment of women and girls. Okay, so this is an emergency. You're not hearing it discussed on the MSM. Sadiq Khan's display of Islamist dominance must now be the wake-up call that we all need. I'll outline why in my digest next.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Then my superstar panel here, social commentator Lalani Dowding, host of Lalani's Small Holdings YouTube channel and freedom activist Elizabeth Fox. Also coming up on the show today, new fears for Eamon Holmes as he disappears from G. MGB News after falling asleep live on air. There's disgust as Channel 5 allows the hard left as Carol Vorderman to take over its shows, its channel, for an entire day. And two major royal scandals breaking two claims a member of the Royal family admitted to vaccine damage, as Andrew Launey drops a new Andrew Mountbatten-Winsop bombshell, this involving a 15-year-old girl.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Then in the Royal Uncanceled After Show on Substack, Megan Markle, fights back against Tom Bowers' bombshell claims about the trouble in her marriage to Prince Harry, but no one is convinced, so the Duke's biographer, and Al Goreham asked mine, Angela Levin. We'll be here later to analyse that as over on Substack. www. www. outspoken.live after the main show. Brand new Greatest Britain and Uni and Jackass named at the end of the show today, too, but you can vote for the worst Britain in the world today right now in the YouTube live chat. Lalani and Elizabeth have all nominated, so we're in competition today. Lalani has gone for Ed Miliband for telling pubs they should serve warmer beer to save money on energy bills. I wish that were a joke. Elizabeth has gone with a tit whisperer, Zach Polanski, for his idea to separate the Church of England from the state undoing nearly five centuries of history.
Starting point is 00:04:48 She says this is completely insane. We are a Christian country and the madness needs to stop. And I'm going for Carol Vorderman for taking over Channel 5 to spread her hard left bullshit. So there are your three choices for today's Union Jackass. Get voting. Let me know your comments throughout the show. I will feed some of them back before we go today. But now, let's go.
Starting point is 00:05:14 London has been conquered. No video makes that clearer than the one I'm about to show you. as H.JB News reported in 1945 in London's Trafalgar Square, the British celebrated VE Day. Victory in Europe over Germany. 81 years on. That's one man's lifetime. It is now under Muslim occupation. That's in less than a century. Let that sink in.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And just look at this split-screen vision. Look at what's changed in eight decades. Last night, London's Islamist Mersity Khan turned what was once the heart of England, the heart of our United Kingdom, into the new home of Islamism. And this wasn't just about Muslim pride. This was a clear display of domination. Yes, London tonight, a planned decades in the making. Watch.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So that forceful takeover of Trafalgar Square is the culmination of 10 years of Khan plotting his now successful Islamist takeover. Last night he openly boasted about the UK capital city hosting the biggest Iftar in the world. al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. I come to say thank you. I know you've done a Fythar's in writer and Birmingham and Bradford and Blackburn and Cambridge and Glasgow. We save the best till last, right? We think that we will have more people doing if-ar here today than ever before. We think we're going to break the record for the biggest if-thar, not just in London, Not just in UK, not just in Europe, but in the Western world. And it only happens because you've got great volunteers like you working for Ramadan, temperate.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So, suhannala, start a hand, and thank you very, very, very much. So give us a round applause. I want to take a photograph with the best volunteers in the world. So are you ready? Yes. Even you at the back, uncle. Are you ready? Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Guys, can you all take a step back, please? Come we take a step, back? It's all fun in games, isn't it? He then posted along with four pictures, which showed virtually no white faces at all. Community isn't just where we live. It's how we look after one another. Tonight, people of all faiths,
Starting point is 00:08:52 races and backgrounds came together in the heart of our capital to break their farce at Ramadan tent projects open. Iftar is always a place at the table in this city. Khan then joined the prayers himself. And he wasn't done yet. Khan then got up on stage and lied, ludicrously suggesting that it's Islamism in the United Kingdom. That is at threat when it is actually Christians running scared.
Starting point is 00:10:18 As this viral video of Sadiq's speech juxtaposed with a man being attacked for burning the Quran makes abundantly clear. Watch. It is difficult to be a Muslim in 2026. Look here. Stop for me. He's got a knife.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Whether you're in London, in other parts of the UK, in Europe, or across the world. You're fucking idiot. You're buying the Quran. P. What? He's got a knife as well. Oh, you've got a knife, man.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Try to cow us and scare us to be less Muslim, to be less Islamic, to make us scared, to put a head above the parapet. I'm fucking idiot. Don't come to me. Listen, I'm just filming, yeah? No, you shouldn't be, listen. My religion.
Starting point is 00:11:15 My religion. No wonder there is now a transatlantic demand to save our country with Tim Paul. pleading, we need regime change in the UK. The rage over last night's Trafalgar Square Islamist takeover has been widespread, but completely ignored in the MSM. Alamini Hayne of Restore Britain posted, There are approximately 500 mosques in London.
Starting point is 00:11:46 There is zero reason this should be happening in Trafalgar Square. This is not Islamabad. From Tommy Robinson. They called Sir Jim Ratcliffe racist. They never called him wrong. Rahim J. Cassan pondered, this is London tonight. Trafalgar Square, no less, an area dating back to 1,200 AD and named for the epic British Victory in 1805 where the statue of Nelson stands 170 foot high.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Tonight he's wondering how the hell England was conquered. But Lee Kern urged, this is designed to intimidate you. you. Don't let it. There is no need for public worship like this, but they do it to try and Islamize public spaces and create the illusion of inevitability. Don't let it work. Resist the encroachment of Islamic theocracy. And the most senior politician to weigh in, and congratulations to him for doing so, was the Conservative Shadow Justice Secretary Nick Timothy. He wrote, too many are too polite to say this, but mass ritual prayer in public places is an act of domination. The adhan, which declares there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger, is when called in a public place, a declaration of domination.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Perform these rituals in mosques if you wish, but they are not welcome in our public places and shared institutions. And given their explicit repudiation of Christianity, they certainly do not belong in our churches and cathedrals. I am not suggesting everybody at Trafalgar Square last night is an Islamist, but the domination of public places is straight from the Islamist playbook. Trafalgar Square belongs to all of us. It is a national memorial to our independence and our salvation. Last night was not like a televised football match or a St. Patrick's Day celebration. It was an act of domination and therefore division.
Starting point is 00:13:53 It shouldn't happen again. Perhaps Kelly J. Keene echoed most of our feelings, though, in just three words. I'm utterly disgusted. But what happened in Trafalgar Square is indicative of a much bigger plan that few talk about, but I do hear because it is by far the most important issue we are facing. Sometimes though I get a sense that the dam is close to bursting. with Trevor Kavana. You know, the Sun's longtime political editor,
Starting point is 00:14:28 a mainstream media figure for decades, a man incredibly close to Rupert Murdoch, now admitting publicly that we are sleepwalking into becoming an Islamic Republic. Serious and peasant danger. And it beggars belief that we are simply standing back and wringing our hands, and you and I are talking about it,
Starting point is 00:14:52 and nothing is being done. Final question, which I asked somebody this morning, and they fell off their chair. Are we sleepwalking into becoming Nazi Germany, Trevor Kavana? No, I don't think we are. I think we're sleepwalking into becoming an Islamic republic. He's right. John Cleese, too.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And this is interesting because, you know, in so many ways, he is a major leftist. But the Fulgy Tower's legend is another prepared to start saying the previously unthinkable. Writing on X, the UK has always been based at the deepest level on Christian values, regardless of dogma. Despite the many mistakes made by churches for centuries, British people have been influenced by Christ's teaching.
Starting point is 00:15:33 If these values are replaced by Islamic ones, this will not be Britain anymore. And he described, this is John Cleese described as absolutely insane, this viral video of an English woman seemingly being arrested for challenging an Islamist takeover in public. Watch this. Take her away. Take her away.
Starting point is 00:16:53 La al-a-a-hu-l-l-hul-a-hulah. We're sorry, we're not. I'm sorry about that. You don't know what we do. The problem is, there is so much with Islam that just doesn't fit with our culture, as Muhammad hijab makes abundantly clear here. We would say that, well, if you were to be intimate with a 14-year-old,
Starting point is 00:17:31 or, you know, 13-year-old who's got huge hips and huge breasts and huge body. I mean, quite frankly, we would say it's not going to have the same effect medically. I mean, no one can make the argument. But in these countries where we live in now, one is legal and one is both are, one is illegal. So for another words, you can't marry a hundred-year-old woman, but you can marry that girl that's, you know, you can't be. So you're a pedophile if you, if you go for the girl that's got the hips. And once again, pedophilia is very relative. Yeah, you are a paedophile if you're going for the 13-year-old girl, mate.
Starting point is 00:18:06 John Cleese described him as a very articulate savage. Yet our labour leaders with suicidal empathy ignore the facts about terrorism and Islamist terrorism specifically to claim that an invisible far right provides a greater threat, like Dawn Butler in this new parliamentary battle with Katie Lamb. There's a far greater threat from the far right than there is from Islam. And, you know, in this holy month of Ramadan, I'm sure Muslims all over the country will be praying for her soul whether she deserves it or not. The single biggest extremist threat to our country remains the threat of extremist Islamist violence.
Starting point is 00:18:50 That threat is intimately tied up with a growing tendency towards sectarian politics. The stats don't lie. But then there's Labour's Aspana Begham, suggesting that the real danger to Britain's girls is not the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, but rather reform UK and the so-called far-right talking about that scourge. Madam Deputy Speaker,
Starting point is 00:19:11 as Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Domestic Abuse and Violence, I'm delighted to be working with Bunyanne's aid to ensure that no survivor is left behind. As we approach the fifth anniversary of the landmark Domestic Abuse Act 2021 next month, this could not be more important. because we know in the Volk sector that the weaponisation of violence against women and girls
Starting point is 00:19:35 by far right groups and political parties such as reform harms survivors and ultimately impedes the real work of tackling the root causes of society-wide violence to the detriment of women and girls. It's resulted in women fleeing persecution abroad, facing even more danger here, including the targeting of them at hotels over the past year. Tommy Robinson responded, Muslim MP, Aspan a Begham in Parliament. Women fleeing persecution abroad face even more danger in the UK because of far-right groups. You've just answered your own question and your ridiculous statement, he said. Go home.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Losing Gorton and Denton by-election candidate Matt Goodwin of Reform UK is proposing the start of a national conversation about the fact that the white majority of this kind, country is about to become a minority, which he says means we will soon no longer have an identifiable nation at all. Well, the first thing to say, you've been ahead of the curve for a long time in the debate. Unfortunately, many people in Westminster haven't been. What we're really talking about here is within the space of, let's say, a child born today, within that child's lifetime, the historic majority in this country will simply no longer be a majority. the time that child turns about 30, 40 years of age.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Why does that matter? Well, it matters because in some ways it's not really about race. Lots of people from minority backgrounds also care about the majority group. That's why, for example, one in three black and minority ethnic voters voted for Brexit, because they too care about the culture and the demography of our country. Look, what's going to happen is over the next 74 years, as we go from 73% white British to 33% white British, we are going to end up in the same group of countries like Lebanon and Sierra Leone in not having a clearly identifiable majority group. Now, people watching this online
Starting point is 00:21:39 or listening to it might say, well, what's the problem with that? Well, the problem with that is if you don't have a clear majority group, you don't really have a nation. You don't have an identifiable core of that nation. And I'm basically releasing this book, and I'm sure there'll be a strong reaction to it and a lot of hostility from the usual figures on the left. But nobody's actually explaining to the British people what is happening around them and the pace at which it is happening around them. When you actually look at where we're going to be as early as, say, 2050, which is not really that far away, a lot of what we consider to be Britain and England will not really look like Britain and England in a meaningful sense. So multiculturalism has failed,
Starting point is 00:22:22 something most of us can agree on, but Goodwin argues the problem is there's no successor. What I'm saying we need to do is actually get to a different policy approach, which is assimilation, which is you either assimilate into who we are by speaking our language, by contributing to the economy, by respecting our rule of law, by embracing our culture, or you leave. It is that simple because, remember, David Cameron said in 2010, multiculturalism has failed. So did Angela Merkel and so did Nicola Sarkozy. Here we are 16 years later and nobody yet has figured out what the successor is to multiculturalism. What is going to come after that failed policy framework?
Starting point is 00:23:06 And what I'm saying is enough of all the bland talk about diversity and all of that stuff, let's just start moving now into assimilation, which is if you live in Britain, you integrate into Britain. No more translation services. No more Sharia courts, no more cousin marriage, no more translation services. no more separate communities, none of that. We are now going to focus on assimilation, right? Which is you learn the language, you contribute financially, you don't live on welfare, you don't live on social housing,
Starting point is 00:23:35 and you become part of who we are. Yet Tommy Robinson doubts Goodwin and reform are going to lead on this, asking how will you stop the Islamization of our country with Muslims at the helm of your party? And what Goodwin says might be all well and good. Remember, he's arguing that Reform UK will reverse this. And that's where I split with him. After all, this is Reform's new housing and infrastructure spokesman.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Simon Dudley. Watch. Salam al-a-Qam. I am Simon Dudley. I'm the leader of the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead. What I as the leader of the council and people like Gertch as hopefully a future councillor and the whole Conservative group
Starting point is 00:24:25 guarantee to you is that as the town develops we will make sure you have the space to expand here we had thought that we might build apartments flats
Starting point is 00:24:41 we will never do that that is my undertaking to you as the leader the Conservative leader of the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead when we have control of that site We will allow the Islamic trust to acquire that site so that you can expand here. Susan Hall, Sadiq Khan's rival in London,
Starting point is 00:25:01 says now is the time to fight. Fight because it's not just labour, it's the increasingly Islamist Green Party which is now pledging to dismantle the Church of England. Well, I'm really sorry to say, but I think we're going to have to start fighting for our culture and our heritage.
Starting point is 00:25:20 The Greens apparently, if they win a general election, would actually drop the Church of England as Britain's established church. I mean, whatever next. The Greens are no longer the tree-huggers, the environmentalists. In my view, they're very dangerous. We value our country as it is, the majority of us. We would not put leaflets out for different parties in Urdu. We would not pander to certain communities. We should all be living together harmoniously. And I'm afraid there are some parties that are making this very difficult. Sectarian politics is not where we should be.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So I beg of you, all of you, in May that can vote, go out and vote. All of you, do your bit. We have got to retain our culture. I as a conservative and passionate about our royal family, about our culture as it is. We must welcome other people where we can, but we have to look after our own first. Things are getting so bad in this country.
Starting point is 00:26:31 They are, and it's everywhere. Schools in Britain, now closing for Eid Mubarak, an Islamic festival that has absolutely nothing to do with British culture or identity. Watch this. Good morning, family, this is just a very quick, message from myself this morning to say that as you know we are closed on Thursday Friday this week so it's a three-day week for us at Mary Lord Primary School. We are closed this week so that all of our families who celebrate can be celebrating Eid and I just wanted to say on behalf of governors,
Starting point is 00:27:04 trust members and staff at Miriel Lord Primary School, Eid Mabarak on behalf of us all at Miriam Lord for when the time comes this week and we hope you enjoy the celebrations. What are we doing? Last night was pre-year-lawful. that London has been conquered, but the Islamist takeover of the United Kingdom is now well on the way. We must fight it. Now, the superstar panel. So great to have Elizabeth Fox and Lulani Dowding back with me today. Lelani, what did you make of those scenes in Trafalgar Square? You know, it is shocking, and I think the problem is I've seen a lot of Christian preachers getting arrested for preaching the Bible,
Starting point is 00:27:52 or speaking, just even if it's one or two of them speaking out and preaching on the street because somebody's been offended. So to see that, given the hundreds of masks around the country, was actually very surprising. And I don't know how, you know, I don't know how we counteract it. I mean, the Christians need to come out and get together, I suppose, and do the same thing because if they're not going to stop it, you know, see the Christians come out, have a hymn service, do something big and put a public display on. Or go old-fashioned and get the old sunbuss, sun fun, topless bus up out there and play a bit of music and dance around in a few bikinis, like the old British fun way. Exactly. That's what we need. Something that
Starting point is 00:28:44 actually says we're diametrically opposed to your knee-cab-driven culture. I mean, I'm not going to do the page three thing again, but I'll shove on a union jack bikini and have a little jingle on the top of a top. And when I'm saying topless, I mean topless bus, the old British topless bus in a bikini. I'm sure Lizzie would look great on one, two. Elizabeth, what did you make of those scenes?
Starting point is 00:29:07 And specifically, Sadiq Khan, seeming to goad the native population. Well, I mean, he's been doing it a while, hasn't he? And I think it's personally my opinion is that it's quite scary. I agree with Susan Hall fully that we need to fight for our culture and our values and our traditions. Because ultimately this is a Christian country. And when I see the videos and I see the likes of Sadiq Khan standing there and promoting multiculturalism and saying how diversity is our greatest strength, I don't think, you know, David Cameron. Cameron, 16 years ago, stated that it's failed. That was 16 years ago.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And here we are now. I think it's suicidal empathy. I really do. Just, it's just, I just find it scary because if we were to go over to an Islamic country and we were to do it the exact same and promoting our ideals and our beliefs in their town squares and their monumental places, I think that we were. would be not welcomed and permitted and accommodated so widely as they have been here. In the past hour, breaking right now, Donald Trump has slammed slippery stammer again
Starting point is 00:30:34 during an extraordinary press conference in the Oval Office alongside the Irish Prime Minister on St Patrick's Day. That's why he's in the Green Tie. I want to show you two key. moments from this. First, Trump says that the special relationship was great until care came along. Go ahead, please. Kiss, darn it isn't making... She's a fantastic reporter, by the way. Go ahead. The Prime Minister isn't making the case to the British public as to why he should be supporting you.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Could you do that now and talk to the UK and to GV News viewers about why it's in their interest that we help you? Well, because we have a tremendous long-term relationship with the UK. I mean, people would say it's the best. I don't want to get into that. But we've had, it was the longest, the oldest, should be the best. Always was the best until Keir came along. And that was a great question from Bev Turner, the best GB News has got. But Trump wasn't done then because he wanted to make a visual point about
Starting point is 00:31:48 that bust, the bust that you saw over his shoulder of Winston Churchill. Watch this. You see that man right there? You know who that is? Churchill. The late great Winston Churchill. And Barack Hussein Obama did not want his bust in this office. Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:32:09 And Barack Hussein Obama sent that bus back to England. They didn't want it. And when I came in, I was asked if I wanted it. I said, absolutely I want it. And I put it right there, Winston Churchill. And, you know, unfortunately, Keir is not Winston Churchill. Now, this is interesting because Lelani Dowdy, you have turned on Trump over this war. So, so I'm going to come to you in just one moment, actually, because I want to speak to you about that. But Elizabeth, what did you make first about the way that Trump is just constantly
Starting point is 00:32:50 going for stamina. I think it's great personally. I do too. I think the one thing I really love about Trump is that he's very candid. He always has been and he just says what he feels. And I think that that's why a lot of people voted for him and believed in him because he just said, he just would call things out, which was refreshing. Because normally they're quite stiff and, you know, narcissistic. these leaders. But he's always, you know, just been very candid. So, yeah, I mean, I liked Trump.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I have sort of mixed feelings about a lot of things going on in the world right now. But yeah, I've always appreciated and enjoyed his entertainment when he speaks. And with regards to Stama, I don't think Trump likes Stama. I think we all know fully well that he doesn't. and I think that he is frustrated with him and I think that he just, yeah, he just wants rid of him. Yeah, I mean, Lulani, before I come to you on this, I wanted to show you the resignation letter from Joseph Kent,
Starting point is 00:34:04 who is the director of the National Counterterrorism Centre in America, arguing and echoing, I guess, much of what you have been saying over the past few days. He said that he is resigning because a russian, because Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation. And it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. He says, as a veteran who deployed to combat 11 times
Starting point is 00:34:35 and as a gold star husband who lost my beloved wife, Shannon, in a war manufactured by Israel, I cannot support sending the next generation off to fight and die in a war that serves no benefit to the American people, nor justifies the cost of American lives. I pray that you will reflect upon what we are doing in Iran and who we are doing it for. But when he was presented with that letter, Lillani,
Starting point is 00:34:57 in this Oval Office press conference in the past hour, Trump was absolutely certain that Joseph Kent has got this wrong and that Iran did pose an imminent threat. And indeed, he even said to the Irishman in the room that those nuclear weapons could have been heading towards us? You know, it's a really hard one, Dan, and I feel like hell is almost frozen over because I have gone against Trump on this.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And, you know, as far as Starma goes, a broken clock can be wrong twice a day. And, you know, I'm glad he's taken pause about sending our men and women over to fight this. absolute, complete and utter mess. But regarding, you know, what he said, he is the director of the National, sorry, director of the National Counterterrorism Center.
Starting point is 00:36:01 So I think he would know, you know, he works under Tulte Gabby. I'm sure he's privy to a lot of intel. What I keep going back to is the fact that Donald Trump changes his story hour by hour. One minute he doesn't need our help. He's winning. He was winning the first hour. He's won 14 times or 100 times since. Then the next minute he's like, we need help from people. Then he's like, actually, we don't need help. I just wanted to see their reaction. So it's almost like he's just making things up as he goes along and you can't believe what's coming out his mouth. Now, I didn't support him for the person he is. I supported him based on his policies. which was that he was going to bring peace to Ukraine and Russia within the first month.
Starting point is 00:36:51 That's what he bragged. Or maybe it was the first week. Didn't do that. No one has been arrested over the Epstein files in the USA. They have in the UK, not in the USA. You know, what about the Doge that Elon Musk sorted out? Nothing's up. So there's a lot of things and it's been building up and building up.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And he was meant to be the peace president. the anti-war president, and I feel like I got sucked in, and I got duped by it all. And honestly, I think I'm going to get more negative comments in your thing than June Slater did, bucking Nigel Farage for so long in reform. But I thought, you know, it's going to come, but that's, that's, you know, the way I feel. And I think it's a mess. And, you know, one minute he says he knew that Iran would go crazy and blow everyone up. And then next thing, he says, you know, this is the level.
Starting point is 00:37:45 last thing was this is a real shock it was unexpected meanwhile i just keep going back to the fact that charlie kirk warned about this three months before he died he said that you know trump wants to think they're all cavemen in iran but um you know charlie kirk did warn that um they're very intelligent you've got a very high IQ and they have been strategizing this out they are an underdog in terms of power so all they've they've had to do, however long it's been, is strategise on on how to win this. And they are playing a very strategic chess game that, you know, he claims he doesn't know, but why, why isn't the USA war gameing it out? Anyway, that's how I feel. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I'm looking at a couple of comments in the live chat. Now, Viper 44 says he's not Santa love war issues are difficult.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Tissy 28 says he's not asking for help. He is telling us to look after our own. Why is that so difficult to grasp. I mean, the one thing I would say is that slippery Stama is a total hypocrite when it comes to this issue. He's been all over fucking Zelensky again today, hugging him outside the Oval Office. And look at this post, look at this post from him on X. This is just in the past few minutes. The Middle East conflict has increased the need for rapid military innovation. It's central to our national and economic security. Today, we've signed a new defense partnership between Ukraine and the UK, strengthening Ukraine's ability to defend itself from Russia's brutal attacks and ensuring the UK and our allies are prepared to meet the threats
Starting point is 00:39:16 of the future. Great to see you again, my friend. So it's like he is absolutely prepared to keep pouring money into Ukraine, a war that I think Trump is right should never have been started. So I think Stama is all over the place on this issue. And that I want to say as well that, you know, we have to look after Britain. But, you know, I say look after Britain not elsewhere. But he's doing neither. So he's not helping out the Straits of Hamos, but he's also not helping the UK, because what we need to do is close our own down borders, and we need to stop funding these people's houses and hotels and food and everything else, and just allowing them to come over here. So if there's any going to be any terrorist threats by sleeper cells, if anything like that's going to happen, that is going
Starting point is 00:40:05 to be from our government's own doing, allowing these men to come into this country and housing and feeding them. And that has to stop. And I want to be very clear that I am UK first and I am all about sorting this country out, sorting our own business out, sorting our own homes out. Let's sort this country out and, you know, as part of it, but Starmer also isn't doing that. So he's just, to me, he's always going to be pathetic. I can't stand the guy. I don't care that Trump had a go with him. I don't think he's doing it in any noble kind of way because he won't sort out this country and he doesn't actually care.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Oh, sorry, sorry, I didn't realize we were still on. No, I'm joking, of course. I'm joking, of course. But that is what's going on at GV News at the moment. And I do have something like Eamon Holmes. I've known him for a long time. But when you start nodding on, during a live broadcast, it's not a surprise that viewers do start to lose trust in you.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And breaking right now, Amon Holmes has been taken off air at GBI News this week after falling asleep amid health concerns. Now, Amanda Devlin, who's the very Taptan assistant editor at The Sun newspaper, says that the presenter usually co-hosts with Ali Costello three days a week. However, since signing off on Wednesday last week, Amon hasn't been seen back on GB News. Viewers had raised their concern and called for bosses to step in after they watched him struggle through his last broadcast. Now some are questioning the reason behind his absence since the incident. One said it looks like Amon Holmes has been axed by Gb News for falling asleep live on air while presenting the breakfast. for show. He has been replaced. This is brutal, but it's showbiz baby. No excuse falling asleep on set,
Starting point is 00:42:16 unprofessional. Another asked, where have you been, Amen? The son has reached out to GB News or comment. And despite being off-screen, Amon has been posting on his social media after attending a media event, an aid of cancer research on money. He later shared a snap of himself in the car with his former television co-host, Anthea Turner. He captioned at Tank. Axie for Turner, look who I picked up on the way home. She always makes a journey shorter, Miss Anthea and Mr. Aymann. Now, Amon himself has been very open about just how difficult his recent health battles have been, including this on a brand new podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Just, I'm sick. I'm in a wheelchair. That's been horrendous to deal with for two years. Certainly, I don't think TV wants to know you. I mean, there's nothing you and I are talking and no one could tell us anything wrong, but I can't get up. I need help to get out of this chair. I have to have carers throughout the day. But once I'm sitting down,
Starting point is 00:43:20 whatever I can do everything. And I do have great sympathy. I mean, I saw Aymann a few months ago. We had words about quite a lot, actually, at Nana Require's engagement party, and certainly physically he is really suffering. But this is the moment where he did appear to fall on sleep on screen.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And why this is difficult is that Ali Costello, who's a very lovely woman, but definitely needs the support of a veteran broadcast like him, was in an interview with the top Labour minister and effectively Stama's spin doctor, Darren Jones. And I think she needed his backup. But Amon's sort of like staring and holding his microphone and very much does appear to go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:44:12 But watch this and make your own judgment. Well, the first thing to say is some of that reporting is just not true. It's right to say the NHS app was always going to be separate to the Gov.ukuk app. That's a decision that we took very early on, primarily because governments have already spent a lot of money building the NHS app and it works really well. And the public like it. And we don't want to slow that down by attaching it to a new project. But the Department for Education has no issues with the program at all. Just to recite, though, what is it?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Digital ideas, the ability to log in to thegov.ukk app and then prove who you are. And by being able to prove who you are, we're able to bring services that are currently across different departments and core centers and services into one place for you on your app, should you wish to use that. And we just think that will be easier for people to use than the current system of course centers and paperwork and hours on hold. not really knowing whether you are in the process, which is very frustrating for the public and ultimately quite costly for the taxpayer. Darren Jones, thank you so much for your time. We're out of time with you, I'm afraid, this morning,
Starting point is 00:45:17 but thank you for joining us on GB News Breakfast. And we'll see you bright now and again in the morning. Whatever you're up to, have a good day. Andrew and Miriam next. So after that, the son said that Aman had sparked concern within G.B. News. Insiders at the channel telling the newspaper, it was the latest incident to cause staff worry over Aman's health. Their source said it hasn't gone unnoticed that Aman has been
Starting point is 00:45:49 struggling a lot more lately. Today he was falling asleep on air and slurring his words. There were lots of messages coming in about it. Earlier in the program, viewers voiced their concern over the TV presenters slurring. One said, please help Aeman Holmes. He's obviously struggling. falling asleep this morning, slurring his words. This guy needs medical assistance. Another wrote, is Aymond Holmes okay? Should someone not take him off air to get him seen to? He seems unwell. Another viewer said, I'm the first to criticize Aeman Holmes, but I feel he's obviously increased his medication and should not be presenting this morning. Difficult situation I appreciate. I mean, it is a very difficult situation and now he has been taken off air seemingly.
Starting point is 00:46:34 to my superstar panel, two women who could never put me asleep, Elizabeth Fox and Lulani Daldine, what do you make of this? Is it right for Aman to keep on broadcasting? Does GB News need to take more responsibility here? Or is it actually just not a big deal? Like he's having to get up at five in the morning and maybe everyone should just lay off him if he has a little nap on set? I mean, like you said, I think it's really difficult. It's obviously, you know, something to do with his illness or his medication.
Starting point is 00:47:13 But, you know, you can't really host a show and do your job properly when you're like that. And unfortunately, you know, if you were an HGV driver or, you know, a train driver, bus driver, you wouldn't be able to do that. So I don't know that you should do it while trying to engage and have a conversation with somebody and, you know, host. and you know, you're the head, you know, kind of control what's going on on the screen when you're interviewing people or trying to present something. So I do think it is a difficult one. It has to be handled really carefully. But, you know, it's probably in his best interest that he doesn't and does get the medical help that he needs.
Starting point is 00:47:54 And maybe, you know, he shouldn't be up so early doing that. He, yeah, he just, it's sad. It's very sad. Yeah, I mean, Alex Marble on the super chat. is to be fair, I would fall asleep to Darren Jones too, which is a fair point. But Elizabeth Fox, what do you make of this? I was going to say, first of all,
Starting point is 00:48:12 I have, in Amon's defence, I would have fallen asleep talking about digital ID because first of all, second of all, third of all, everything all, we don't need it. But anyway, that's a whole different conversation. Yeah, I mean, GB News, they have a duty of care to their employees, don't they, and their presenters. and I think if he's got medical issues and he's not able to fulfil his role and it's affecting him and he's falling asleep,
Starting point is 00:48:40 he's clearly not able to fully do that due to his medical issues. So I think that at the end of the day, your health is wealth. You have to concentrate on your health first and foremost. So they should be concentrating on his wellbeing and he should be not pushing himself if it's causing him to fall asleep. because it is unprofessional. They also have a show to put out. They don't want their presenters falling asleep. So for both sides, it just makes sense that they put his health and well-being at the forefront of their minds.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah, I mean, I guess what's difficult, Lelani, is that Aman has been very open about the fact that after his big battle with HMRC, which, remember, cost him hundreds of thousands of pounds, not to mention his divorce or his forthcoming divorce for a Ruth Lansford, he needs to keep working and he needs to keep earning. I know, Dan, this is why it's so hard because you, you know, you want to, you're fighting for him and you want to cheer him on and have his side in this. But if it's, I don't know, it's just so hard, isn't it? Because you want to have his back. But at the same time, you can't have somebody just falling asleep all the time or else it's just going to become like a comedy sketch and it's it's just not good.
Starting point is 00:50:03 He doesn't seem to be aware that the camera's still on him, whatever he's looking at or playing around with. And like Lizzie said, yeah, I'm sure you just end up kind of zoning out and switching off with that guy speaking, but you know that you're not really meant to do that. Yeah, I mean, it is a shame. I think one of the issues is that GB News is full of kids, you know, that they want kids on screen because what's the saying?
Starting point is 00:50:28 You pay peanuts and you get. monkeys and that's what G.B. News has decided to do. And part of me thinks it's really important to have a veteran presenter like Eamon Holmes there. And I do like the fact that we are still able to have people with long careers. So I guess all I would say is Aman, just make sure, just make sure that you're staying alert, okay? Maybe like, maybe there needs to be like a red bull under the table or something like that. I did breakfast TV for years. That's when I first got to know Aymann actually working at ITV.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And I did never fall asleep, but I'm actually not a morning person at all. I hated doing morning television. And there was one time that I had like slept through my alarm because I'd been out for a big night the night before. I think it was like a big party, some type of rap party or something like that. and, you know, the worst thing to do was not turn up at the show. And I managed to somehow get ready and get to the studio and make it on air within about half an hour, which was just a miracle. But I was definitely still a little bit intoxicated that morning.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That is for sure. So I was maybe falling asleep for a different reason. So it is hard. Like, all I'm saying is that I understand that morning television takes a massive toll on your body. And maybe what Aymann needs to look at is actually trying to present at a different time of the day. Breaking today, Channel 5 has been taken over, and the worst news possible, by hard leftist, Carol Vorderman. And what is yet another nail in the coffin of the British mainstream media. Now, I've found this absolutely astonishing.
Starting point is 00:52:23 The broadcasters bosses have backed the increasingly fringe lunatic, despised by most of the popular. And I was talking about this earlier and just saying, could you imagine a scenario when someone who is considered to be sort of the same as her on the other side of politics? I would say the right side of politics. You know, like Tommy Robinson, for example, or Katie Hopkins was allowed to take over an entire channel. I mean, they wouldn't even be allowed on channel five for five minutes. So no wonder people are turning off the mainstream media. But Channel 5's commissioner Frederico Ruzzi, clearly awoke-topian, said about this Carol as a broadcasting powerhouse. And we're really excited to have her taking over our daytime schedule.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Each of our shows has its own unique personality and audience from debating current affairs to consumer issues and heartfelt stories. Viewers will get to enjoy her trademark energy and sharp wit all day on five. Probably best to call in six so you can tune in with no interruptions. I don't think so. And not surprisingly, Channel 5 viewers were not keen on this either. One penned, anyone prepared to vote for Carol Vortemann needs their head examining. A second, like anyone, listens to Carol Vortem when it comes to politics. Another, it's okay. Carol Vorderman is going to run FFS. We're all saved. That was a facetious talk. One said Vortemann was instrumental in getting the disaster, who is Stama elected. From another, Carol Vortemant only supports the party that's popular at the time.
Starting point is 00:53:56 now she's going to support the Greens. And another concluded, Vorderman has sucked up to every political party going. Her only concern is for herself. And that's absolutely true. But this takeover today, this Vorderman takeover today, started on the Jeremy Vine show as he challenged her on this bizarre career switch
Starting point is 00:54:15 from Quizwoman to leftist activist. At some point, you seemed to shed the cosy. quiz persona and become this rip-throat political animal who just was going for everyone. I was a shock. Well, you were kind of suddenly like, I'm on this now, everyone. This is my mission. No, I told you what it was. It was because in plain sight there was so much corruption going on.
Starting point is 00:54:49 She then waffled on, diverting away from the question. Vine wouldn't let it slide, though, watch. And why go suddenly lane to the Tories? Why not? That's all you need to say. Well, no, because we had COVID. And what became obvious was the VIP PPEE lane in plain sight was corrupt. Michelle Mone.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And Michelle Mone. She was friends of yours, by the way. She was many, many, many years ago. And I came out of that friendship after about a year or so. because I realised what a liar she was. She lied about everything. She lied to the papers even then about how successful she was as a businesswoman and so on.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Lied about her marriage, lied about relationships, lied about everything. And so I sort of distanced myself from that many, many years ago. She probably said she didn't lie about everything, so I probably should add that as the presenter. I know she's admitted to various lies. But anyway, okay, so I've gone over your whole sort of political career there,
Starting point is 00:55:52 but it is a career. In a way, you are in politics to some extent. extent and you go in and out of this. You have a lot of people every single day who are political commentators and I am not. And I was delighted to be a part of the tactical voting website called Stop the Tories. Stop Vote, which we now are Stop Reform UK. And I mean, she couldn't help herself, but plugging that website throughout the show, how was that allowed? I'm very happy with the work that I did, particularly with a tactical voting website,
Starting point is 00:56:20 stop the Tories, now stopreformukuk.vote. Now, I have to say, after the... this takeover, if you're still watching Channel 5, you need to have your head red, because this channel is now going full on political. Charlotte Gill keeps saying it's now like the home broadcaster for the Green Party. And actually, in the next clip, Carol Vorderman actually shows how unhinged and deluded her politics actually are. As she suggests, can you believe this, that the Tory's PPE corruption scandal during COVID, I mean, she never stopped. going on about that was worse than the Peter Mandelson-Epstein scandal within Labor.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Watch. Do you regret almost helping to push the Tories out and bringing this lot in? Don't be daft. The Tories are even worse. Don't start me on the VIP P-P-E, they show me, by them. Don't start me on the corruption in the Tories. This was Mandelson. Yeah, but, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Not yeah, but they may all be as bad as each other. No, I'm sorry. You can't get away with, yeah, but um, because I know, oh, you're still doing it. Well, we've 1.7 million there. The Tories were hugely corrupt, and if reform never get anywhere into power, they will be the most corrupt.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I mean, seriously. And they want this channel to be all her. She then lectured a hapless caller on the Middle East leaning into her severe case of Trump derangement syndrome. There are times when people have to stand up on a moral ground. And I think that Stama has done the right thing. Trump is incoherent, as I said before. He's very unpopular in his own polls now.
Starting point is 00:58:05 He will be gone in a matter of, well, hopefully his power will be gone by the end of the midterms later this year. And there is a time when you have to do it. And this is the time. Not cowtelling to American president when we know that Iran wants to wipe out the Western world. They want to get rid of Israel, wipe it off the face of the earth, want to get rid of all Jewish people, and they want to basically destroy Western capitalism.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Now, are you telling me, we shouldn't stand alongside the American... Let Carol respond to that. Well, I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. It's not. Honestly, Carol, it's not. It's an exaggeration, yeah. Okay, then she was on to the next show. This is Storm and Alexis talking about weighing herself.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I decided when I was 38, that I wouldn't do it anymore. Right. Why? Well, I'm from the generation, just a bit behind Nina, but we only learned about a thing called a calorie. Do you remember when the calorie was introduced into our consciousness? In the 70s? And then there were all sorts of diets, as there always are, the fibre diet, the fibre plan, this, that and the other,
Starting point is 00:59:11 the cabbage soup diet. The Beverly Hills diet. I've done them all. I've done them all. All of them. And I found I was doing the classic. that a lot of people who weigh themselves every day do. It's like, oh, I've put on three pounds overnight.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Riveting TV, not. Then she went on the next show. This is hosted by this awful wotopian guy, Matt All right. Do you remember him gaslighting a woman the other day in regards to the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs? And she decided to convince us all that the BBC license fee is great value. Truly is. And like you rightly said, Matt, you know, because we're the one to have to pay for it. We're the one to go, oh, hang on. I watch Netflix more than I do the BBC. So why do I pay? But I do think that £180 is good value, to be perfectly honest. I mean, who would watch this? Seriously. Who would watch this? The last show that she did as part of this takeover was the most desperate. So,
Starting point is 01:00:22 This is the Vanessa Feltz show on Channel 5, which has terrible ratings. And you know I've spoken about this before because they're trying to make this show look like a podcast. So you know how we have our microphone here? Because we actually are a podcast for a YouTube show. What they do on Channel 5 is they have a fake microphone sitting sort of close to that side of the screen. But if you look closely, Vanessa Feltz is still wearing. A lapel microphone, which is what they use in TV studio. So this is a disastrous show.
Starting point is 01:00:57 But this segment was particularly gross because they engineered an entire discussion for Carol Vorderman to talk about her midlife crisis shaggathon. Watch. Carol very much believes that this is absolutely fine. In fact, she has relationships with several men all at the same time. I don't mean on the same day, but I mean in the space of, let's say, a few words. weeks, and she calls these gentlemen her special friends. And you have said, Carol, that every Roncom tells women to look for love and live happily ever after,
Starting point is 01:01:30 but that's not what you want at all. No, and I don't think it is what a lot of women want at my age and state. I think you met my husband. Yes. We were very happily married, had two children, and then very sadly the marriage broke down. We were blissfully happy and then suddenly they weren't. And I got to my 50s, and I thought, I really want to settle down.
Starting point is 01:01:54 My children were older. And I'm totally financially independent. I've got great friends. I have a brilliant social life. I love laughing. I love going on holiday with my friends. I'm invited all around the world to go and stay with people. So that's what I do.
Starting point is 01:02:16 So these gentlemen, they're there for, what are they there for? primarily. A diplomatic way of asking. Would it be fair to call them friends with benefits? Yes, I think that's probably. I'm sorry, I just find her repulsive. I really do in every way. And Elizabeth Fox and Alani Dowdy,
Starting point is 01:02:42 this is not a happy woman, okay? This is not a happy woman. So we'll talk about why on Earth Channel 5 are doing this. But Lalani, what do you make about her? Gross, boast. Do you really believe her? Oh, she's so happy. I actually think she's a twisted, bitter, toxic woman. I do too. And you know what? That whole thing gave me like elderly Bonnie Blue vibes. It's like, it's disgusting. The elderly Bonnie Blue. Yuck. I don't want to know. It's disgusting. But she doesn't seem to grasp it, does she? Like, she's going on and on about the conservatives. Like, Labor's better. No, it's like a Unipar. They all do the same thing just at different speeds.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And, you know, I agree. The corruption around the PPE was absolutely horrific. But at the same time, it is as bad as the whole Mandelson-Epteen thing. And, you know, it's funny for Jeremy Vine to say that because he was an, I mean, he's another one that I can't believe he's on TV. He's just a hideous, horrific person. So yeah, Carol Vorderman, I don't understand it whatsoever. It's crazy to me. And there was so much there.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I actually forgot the different clips. There was another great clip. But I can't even remember the context of it because there was just so much that's just so terrible. So much horror. And it's like, what are they doing? Why do they think this is a good idea? But we'll come to that. Elizabeth, what did you make of her sort of personal revelations?
Starting point is 01:04:15 Do you really buy this that she's happy? shagging seven men at once? No, I think it's all a facade. First of all, I didn't know I was going to wake up today when I woke up this morning. I didn't know I was going to find out about Carol Valdman's sex life. So thanks for submitting me to that, Dan. Yeah, no, I don't really care, don't really want to know.
Starting point is 01:04:36 But I think a lot of women that promote this and say that they don't need a man, they don't want a man, and they're happy traveling and being with their friends. I actually think that deep down inside they're quite unfulfilled. And the fact that she has so many shaggathons and partners and whatever, she clearly does want to be around a man and with a man. But I just think it's all a facade. And I actually think the truth in it is that she's unbearable to be in a relationship with.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And that's why women like her who are unbearable and like you said, Dan toxic, I think that they can't actually later on in life, find a fulfilling relationship, find someone that will actually be with them for them, because they are just too much, they're just unbearable. I think you're so right on that. I think you're so right on that. But then we come to Channel 5, right, Lalani, and this is what sort of drives me mad,
Starting point is 01:05:32 but in some ways also makes me really happy at the same time because it's like the mainstream media keep on writing their own death notice. They keep on nailing the final nails into their own coffin. Because who on earth would think it was a great idea to allow such a divisive woman to take over their entire channel? A channel, by the way, that as I say, would never have any of us on anymore, would never have Elizabeth's husband, Lawrence Fox on anymore. more? Do you know, I think TV actually likes a certain kind of division, the mainstream TV,
Starting point is 01:06:17 likes a certain kind of division. I remember it from the housewives of Cheshire. When people were arguing, they were happy because viewers would turn off the screens and then argue with each other afterwards and keep, you know, the show ticking over. So that's what happens. They all go away and they all talk about Carol Vorderman afterwards. So I think it's just, it's something that, and then when it really comes down to it, people, don't actually want to watch it. And I've remembered what it was now about the BBC license and how she said it was so fantastic. I'm glad it's gone up to 180 pounds because that's 180 pounds. I am saving a year by not paying it. I haven't paid it for four years. I will never pay for it.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And I don't watch their drivel. So, you know, that's my story. If it could go up to 200, 300, and I still wouldn't care, I'm never going to pay for it ever again. So, you know, I would suggest that to people who were a little bit worried. I mean, unless you love the BBC, then keep watching it and have your mind filled with nonsense and wokeery. But I would say, if you don't watch it, just cancel it. Yeah. I mean, Lelani, can you see, I'm sorry, Elizabeth, can you see any reason why people would keep on watching Channel 5, given that going down this route? I agree with Leilani about the TV license. Why would you pay to be lied to and brainwashed? It's in insane. But I think they put people like Carolom and Jeremy Vine because I think they want to
Starting point is 01:07:46 push into our minds these people and they know that it's going to be clickbait. They know that they're going to cause division. So I think they do it on purpose and they almost want us to believe and be indoctrinated by their mindset and their political alignment. And because because they're There's an agenda at play. There really is an agenda at play, but it's changed so much recently, hasn't it, Lalani? Because, as I say, I mean, I remember the time when Lawrence and myself would regularly appear on that type of channel. I mean, I wouldn't go near it now. But the point is, they're the ones that have completely changed their policy.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And it's almost like the more extreme you are on the left, the more they want you. I mean, as Charlotte Gill is saying, this is now the home of Zach Plansky regularly. Oh, absolutely. It seems as though the mainstream now is all real lefties. And the thing is if you were ever centre, I mean, I was always centre, but I'm considered far right for mainstream because, you know what? Because I didn't agree with lockdowns or I didn't want a vaccination. Suddenly that itself became a far right ideology. And so everything else now has gone to the left, and that's all they want. They only want those real lefties and the real woke people that won't misgender somebody that will call a man and woman and use the he per wrong pronouns. And that's all they want. And that's all they'll put on. And they're all just so scared of offcom and everything as well.
Starting point is 01:09:28 So it's not even worth watching. You know, they've got to even their, even not the talk shows, just their dramas or whatever. I can't even know what you call them because I don't watch them, but there's always got to be some kind of wokeery involved there or a trans person or this, that. It's never, it can't ever just be, you know, like real, real life. Breaking right now, Variety has just dropped a bombshell investigation into Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's falling out with Netflix.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And this is juicy. We're going to dissect it for the first time together. Look at that. Why the royal couple is struggling in Hollywood. And there's some really fascinating detail here. Plus, brilliant pushback from Harry and Megan, who are now trying to accuse Variety magazine. For those who don't know, variety is like the Hollywood Bible. It says, woke as you get, some type of misogyny simply for reporting the truth. So look at this from Variety. After five and a half tumultuous years at Netflix,
Starting point is 01:10:43 are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex on the outs in the streaming kingdom. Insiders say that Megan Markle has long conveyed that Hollywood is her domain. In virtual and in-person meetings with partners, she tends to talk over or recast Prince Harry's thoughts. Sometimes, while he is mid-sentence, sources say, usually proceeded by a touch to the arm or thigh. Now, Megan's lawyer, so they're taking this very seriously, in a letter to variety, says this assertion, quote,
Starting point is 01:11:18 seems calculated to play into the misogynistic characterization of her bossing her husband around. Prince Harry, meanwhile, attests that this is categorically false. So we're going to get into this full bombshell report. Let me bring in my superstar panel, social commentator Lilani Dowding and freedom activist Elizabeth Fox. So this is just hilarious, isn't it, Lalani? Because for such a long time, we've had this sense of Megan being a nasty control freak behind the scenes, almost treating Prince Harry like he's her little child, you know.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Just shut up. I'm going to say what you really think. But for this to be reported in variety is pretty damning stuff. And of course, she immediately has to run to it's misogyny. It's always something like that. There's always some label someone's got to put onto it. But I think anyone that watches any of their shows or when they do an interview together can see the body language for themselves.
Starting point is 01:12:31 You know, it is a kind of putting the hand on as if to say, hold on, let me answer this. I've seen it myself and there's, you've had him on your show before, the body language expert. I think his name's his, is it, has to? Oh yes, Jose.
Starting point is 01:12:47 The body language guy, the Royal Roque, he's brilliant. And he'll talk about it. And I think if you're watching it and you watch them together and you see any of, even when she's by herself as well, you can work it out for yourself. I think you can work it out for yourself.
Starting point is 01:13:06 But yes, it's very damning that variety has chosen to write about it because it seems to me that no one's kissing up to them anymore. It used to be they moved over there. Everybody wanted a piece of them. But it's more that they kind of want to be in that media and that media really doesn't want them anymore. What do you make of it, Elizabeth? The fact that in these business meetings,
Starting point is 01:13:32 she is clearly not only patronising Harry, but trying to control him. I think she always wants it to be about her, doesn't she? She wants to be front centre of it all. I think she tries too hard. And I feel sorry for Harry because I think that he, nothing he says or does is going to be the right thing. And I think she sees herself as the leader in their own. a relationship. I think she sees herself completely differently to how the rest of us see her.
Starting point is 01:14:09 And she doesn't get, if she doesn't get her own way, then, and I think it's not gone the way she's expected to with the whole Netflix association and relationship. And I think she's, she's really not going to like the fact that people are disassociating from them and realizing that it, that it isn't the greatest business partnerships to have. And what's so interesting about this is that for a long time, Harry and Megan got away with it by saying someone like me was effectively a tabloid guy from the UK who was trying to bring them down for political reasons, backed by the royal family. That was the idea. Oh, you know, Megan's not a bully. This is all just lies coming from within the royal family.
Starting point is 01:14:56 But what we've seen recently is the wokenest of the woke. turn on Harry and Megan. It's their own kind turning on them. So Vanity Fair reported the fact that Megan was bullying people so badly that they were ending up in rehab or the Hollywood reporter talking about why all the staff were leaving and how they were really terrible to deal with. And the fact that this is now variety is just so significant. I know loads of people will be watching and say, well, what is variety? If you are in Hollywood, this is your Bible. What is said in variety goes in Hollywood. It's been around since Hollywood began. And I want to take you through this reporting by one of their most senior men, Matt Donnelly. As I say, this has literally just been
Starting point is 01:15:45 released. So we're reading this together for the first time inside Megan and Harry's falling out with Netflix and why the royal couple is struggling in Hollywood. So after five and a half tumultuous years at Netflix, are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex on the outs in the streaming kingdom? That's been a burning question around Hollywood, as the couple's company Archwell Productions has struggled to release bingeable content. For the past 18 months, it has largely become a vehicle for Megan Markle's consumer products as ever. Last week's news that Netflix had divested from the lifestyle venture, which the tech giant footed the bill to help build, tossed gasoline On a bonfire of speculation about the health of the relationship between the former royals and their creative home,
Starting point is 01:16:36 Variety spoke to six well-placed individuals with knowledge of Netflix and the Sussexes, who say the union between Megan, Harry and the streamer has been far from a fairy tale. The Sussex's perceived pattern of selling repackaged versions of the same story about their exit from royal life has exhausted Netflix. Their partnership may continue to taper off, and with it, will Megan and Harry's remaining show business lifeline? While this is major, a Netflix insider, then going on to tell Variety, the mood in the building is, we're done. Their bedside manner has ruffled feathers and meetings, and luck-laster ratings for shows like With Love, With Love, Megan, have led to doubts that e-commerce is the best way for Netflix to stay in business with the couple. A Netflix insider says the ratings for With Love are on par with other lifestyle series. That's to say nothing of Archwell's history of what sources call
Starting point is 01:17:37 poor communications in their dealings with the company. Now, three insiders, this is really interesting, say Netflix chief Ted Sarandos is fed up with the pet. Now, why that's really fascinating is Megan, for a long time, tried to form a close relationship with Ted Sarandos, arguably the most powerful man in Hollywood. There she was taking him to a Beyonce concert, and the suggestion was she was able to form this friendship
Starting point is 01:18:05 because Ted Sarandos's wife is black. And so they had that same sort of mixed race couple thing going on, and she really used that. But that's what's interesting about this. Sarandos fed up with the pair, who per two sources, have been known to text directly with the co-CEO about their projects, as do many A-listers who work with the street.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Simile Chief Content Officer Bella, Bajaria is said to have grown wary of the Sussex Pact, and Netflix spokesperson says it's completely inaccurate that Sarandos and Bajaria have lost faith in the couple. Archerwell has been a thoughtful and collaborative partner, says Bajaria. And so what I should tell you here, this is very much how variety works. So they'll give the juice from the people who are speaking off the record about what's really gone on, then they'll give like the formal response, which is usually quite. nice. So Bejarius says Archwell has been a thoughtful and collaborative partner and we've really enjoyed working with Harry and Megan. They're deeply engaged in the storytelling process and bring a unique
Starting point is 01:19:06 global perspective that aligns with the kinds of impactful projects our members respond to. Insiders at the streamers say Sarandos and his wife Nicole Avant socialised frequently with Megan and Harry and her neighbours in the Starhaven of Montecito, California. However, two sources insist that Sarandos recently said he would not sit for a call with the Duchess unless a lawyer was present on the line. The sources were unclear if Sarandos was serious or joking. A Netflix spokesperson says it's absolutely inaccurate. That Sarandos made the comment.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Oh, this is so much fun. This is blatantly false. In fact, Megan Texan speaks with Mr. Sarandos regularly and has been to his home. Sands Lawyers says Sussex attorney Michael J. Kump in a letter to variety regarding this story. Well, yeah, but she has no idea of Ted Sarandos is bitching about her behind her back.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Loving this. Last August, a second set of episodes with With Love, Megan, performed dismally compared with the first round. Netflix was sitting on a surplus of As Ever products, including tea and baking mixes, totally more than $10 million in value, so much so that the company started giving inventory to employees for free, putting the goods on card tables in various office buildings. An Archwell spokesperson says giveaways from Savel closets are standard practice at studios. A different Netflix source says the plan was always to spin as ever. back into Archwell's control and that the stream only intended to assist in its launch, With Love, which features Megan's friends and the occasional synergistic cameo from talent with ties to Netflix like Mindy Carlin was not renewed in full.
Starting point is 01:20:40 A spokesperson for the Sussex says With Love, Megan, will continue as seasonal specials. Well, I believe it when I see it. Yet, according to many people familiar with the matter, Netflix's disenchantment, is not a recent phenomenon. At the onset of COVID and their move to the United States in March 2020, the couple made it clear that they plan to build an entertainment empire. They held discussions with every major media company in town, including Disney, Apple, Warner Bros, Discovery and NBC Universal as they search for an overall deal. Content slates and consumer brands were always part of their vision, but the
Starting point is 01:21:12 industry was clamoring for one asset in particular, a docu-series featuring never-beforeseen footage of Megan and Harry's Great British Escape, including video of the two on the commercial jet that delivered them to California. Zas Laf, the chief executive of Warner Brothers Discovery, was especially keen to land Harry and Megan, a source familiar with the executive said of that time. Serandos swooped in and signed them to an exclusive arrangement over a five-year term reported numbers vary from 30 million to north of 100 million, but two sources peg the figure at roughly $60 million.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Netflix announced the partnership in September 2020 with fanfare. What Netflix didn't expect, according to numerous sources, was the March 2021 blockbuster primetime interview the couple would participate in with Oprah Winfrey. While nobody at Netflix had suggested that the Sussexes violated any of the terms of their agreement, which allows the couple to engage in projects and other arenas and participate in interviews for other distribution outlets, many at the streamer were annoyed by the lack of communication. Sources say that the company only discovered at the last minute that the Sussexes would sit with Winfrey and share interviews. headline grabbing details of their lives. A Sussex spokesperson says it is categorically false that Netflix was unaware of the Winfrey interview regarding their deal and its exclusivity,
Starting point is 01:22:34 the representative ads, Netflix and Archwell had legal counsel involved to oversee the evolution of the deal as is common practice for any deal or changes in Hollywood. Still, in the honeymoon phase, Netflix leadership ultimately did not interfere with the broadcast which delivered a massive 17.1 million viewers to CBS.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Then, of course, they talk about the tell-or autobiography spare and sources say Megan downplayed the auction telling Sarandos that any publication would be far in the future if it happened at all. Of course that also wasn't true. So we come to the spring of 2021 when sources say the streamer felt blindsided again with the news that Penguin Random House was indeed publishing the Harry Memoir Spare and plan to do so during Netflix's rollout for the Harry and Megan series. While two sources say Sarandos was riled to hear about this during a chance encounter with the Penguin Executive, Netflix insider says the co-CEO never met anyone at the publishing house regarding the book. Penguin would formally announce the project in June 2021. So what's
Starting point is 01:23:39 interesting here and what I'm picking up is that Harry and Megan were being paid big bucks, huge bucks by Netflix and had secured this personal relationship with Ted Sarandos, but then seemed to be doing everything possible to piss Netflix off, which is very, very bizarre. So this fascinating report from Variety says that Netflix then acted immediately to have Harry and Megynar in its entirety before the book hit shelves. Penguin shifted its release to January 2023 when Spare would become the fastest selling nonfiction book of all time. Prince Harry earned a reported $40 million from that deal. A Netflix insider says the plan was always to wear Harry and Megan in December 2022,
Starting point is 01:24:27 though two sources say plans ultimately changed to get ahead of the memoir. Concurrent to the book, release incident, production on Harry and Megan proved challenging. You can imagine that there was a director who they split from, and Sarandos then personally appealed to the Oscar nominee Liz Garbus to Shepard the project. She agreed. And the working relationship between Garbus and the couple, smooth throughout the process until post-production. During the editing of the docu-series, this is juicy, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:25:01 Because you remember that that docu-series featured some terrible moments for Megan Mark. Do you remember when she mocked the bow that she had to give for the queen? Yeah, there it was in that moment. So during the editing of the docu-series, two sources say Megan appealed to Garbus to remove elements from the final cut. saying select interviews and footage would be upsetting to the royal family, especially given that Queen Elizabeth II had died two months prior to the series' debut. Internally at Netflix, sources say the failing among sung executives was that the couple's true intention with the request was to ensure Harry's upcoming memoir
Starting point is 01:25:40 would contain exclusive news and insight that would satisfy his publisher. A Netflix spokesperson calls this characterization not accurate. To other sources with knowledge of the process, say, Netflix leadership encouraged Garbus to conduct one final interview with the couple to ensure that events discussed in Harry's book would also be covered in the series. Garbus and the couple were strongly advised to deliver Harry and Megan in a way that maximised the value of the show. They agreed the sources had. Outside Netflix, parts of the entertainment industry began to sour on the couple. Of course, at that point, they lost their Spotify deal and Spotify's head of talk strategy, Bill Simmons, famously called the couple
Starting point is 01:26:21 fucking rifters. But the ratings were good. So this is where it's interesting. But A-list talent and directors, according to this variety, Expoise, were hesitant to work with the pair. Perceptions were shifting in the industry and across the US, thanks to comments like Simmons and similar remarks from the then-U-T-A CEO Jeremy Zimmer, who says, turns out Megan Markle was not a great audio talent or necessarily any type of talent.
Starting point is 01:26:51 scripted projects with Netflix, including the animated series Pearl, were scrapped. The Sussexes have not produced a single scripted project in their nearly six years at Netflix. Now, she then signed with WME and Ari Emanuel, but within three months of Megan becoming a client, key members of the team assembled to represent her dropped off the account, including Emmanuel, which again is very interesting. Netflix also stepped up to help to find the post-Hari and Megan era at Archewel. When Ben Brannin departed his production and creative-headed Archwell, the streamer showed renewed vigor.
Starting point is 01:27:32 And it sounds like they really did hit the ground running, trying to build substantial projects. But sales agents and filmmakers on the ground were not interested in any Archwell investment for sources say. Archwell specifically expressed interest in numerous documentaries. No deals materialised. So basically, people didn't want to work with Harry and Megan. That's what seems very, very clear by this point. By March 2025, it was clear that Netflix and Archwell had changed direction.
Starting point is 01:28:08 With scripted projects, failing to materialise, it was time to reconsider the partnership. Prince Harry was not nearly as visible in. projects. I think Megan is underestimated in terms of her influence on culture. Sarandos told Variety last month. So the idea was that they were going to start pushing Megan Markle. It was time to test Megan's metal as an entrepreneur and solo star. However, that didn't really work, did it? Sarandos confirmed that Netflix was a passive partner at that point in this as-ever brander as Lady Colin Campbell caused it was ever. And yet again, the Sussex's bedside manner was not well received by some inside Netflix. Insiders say that Megan has long conveyed
Starting point is 01:28:59 that Hollywood is her domain. In virtual and in-person meetings with partners, she tends to talk over or recast Prince Harry's thoughts, sometimes while he is mid-sentence, sources say, usually proceeded by a touch to the arm or thigh. Megan's lawyer, Kump in his letter to Variety says this assertion seems calculated to play into his misogynistic characterization of her bossing her husband around. Prince Harry, meanwhile, attest that this is categorically false. Megan also has odd methods of providing feedback, according to three sources. She was known to disappear for long periods during Zoom calls, the sources say. Later Netflix teams like the marketing Department would be informed that her absence was due to her being offended by something that
Starting point is 01:29:49 was said. But Kump, the lawyer, has hit back and said that Megan works from home as the mother of young children, age four and six, and often encounters, as many parents who work from home do, children who enter the space unexpectedly during a meeting. Independent of being a parent who works from home, Megan is also conscious of shielding her team from the destruction of children. Nearly all professionals can attest to needing to turn off the audio or camera during a virtual meeting at some point during many hours of virtual business calls. After the second batch of With Love episodes created sources say the writing was on the wall that Netflix was losing faith in the former Royals, while news of Netflix's divestment and the brand only hit days ago, two sources say
Starting point is 01:30:29 it had been in the work since last fall. That's when Megan hired independent brand consultant and creative director Devon Pedswater who had worked with Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop, signaling to several sources that Netflix has thrown the towel in. on Megan's venture. So there remain these two scripted projects in the works, of course, but, and here's the killer line, after half a decade of inconsistent shows, strategic shifts, false starts, and a diminished hold on the popular imagination, are the Sussexes really living the Hollywood dream they imagined?
Starting point is 01:31:05 Back to Elizabeth Fox and Lalani Dowdy, Lalani, you know how Hollywood works, you spent a long time there. Obviously, there's a lot of coded language in this article, but I would fundamentally say this is Hollywood calling time out on Megan Markle, right? It's done. I think it is. I think when variety starts to badmouth you, that they kind of don't want you anymore, it's a sign that it's pretty much over because they're not going to schmooze. Like, you know, a lot of the publications will smooth up to people in order they can keep gaining access, keep doing interviews. That appears not to be happening anymore. They don't really care whether they upset her or offend her. They just want to get the truth out there. And there seems to be a lot of history of people not wanting
Starting point is 01:31:56 to work with Megan Markle. And I think as well is that everyone knows and can spot a social climber in Los Angeles and Hollywood because it's completely and utterly full of them. And sometimes people will play along with it if they feel they can parasite and feed each off each other in a mutually beneficial way. But it seems that this isn't going to happen anymore for them. Elizabeth Fox, what did you make of this damning look inside Megan's relationship and networks? I mean, I just think, why would anyone want to be doing business with this woman? Imagine giving someone over $100 million and then they treat you like that?
Starting point is 01:32:40 Well, I think they saw her as a bit of a moneymaking because I think they thought that because of the publicity that she's had worldwide and because a lot of people really don't really warm towards her, I think they thought, well, it will draw people in to watch her. I think they gave her a chance. Maybe they felt sorry for her. but I think that her character is coming out because I think that people not wanting to work with her and people, you know, disassociating with her. I think that she wants it so badly.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I kind of feel sorry for her, actually. I feel like she lacks self-awareness majorly, or she's just completely fully aware of what she's doing and completely destroying her own reputation, not that she has one. But anyway, I just think that they've had enough of her and I think that she's run her course. And I think that what she's trying to do and what she wants to do in California, in Hollywood,
Starting point is 01:33:45 she's not going to be fulfilled in. She's not going to succeed in it because people have seen enough, I think. They're done. They are done. They are done indeed. And I will celebrate that. We're not quite done though,
Starting point is 01:33:59 because we're about to reveal today's greatest Britain and union. and Jackass, so standby. Got no idea which one of us has one. But thank you for your super chats today. So many super chats coming in today. I'm so grateful. Clippy 7 says this is in regards to that big takeover of Trafalgar Square in London. This is an assimilation. Labor and the Tories did this. King Saar says this is absolutely disgusting. Do not trust reform. If any of you are members, stop now, sign up to restore Britain
Starting point is 01:34:30 and 14 says Lillani is right bless her. No war is good. So lots of interesting debate in the live chat today and I very much appreciate it. Okay, a reminder of
Starting point is 01:34:46 our union jackass nominees Lelani Dowding went for Ed Miliband. He's becoming increasingly desperate now telling pubs they should serve warmer bear to save money on energy. Elizabeth Fox went for Zach Polanski for his idea to separate the Church of England from the state and I went for Carol Vorderman
Starting point is 01:35:04 for taking over Channel 5 and spreading her hard left. Bullshit! Okay, the results are in. I'm in third place. Can't believe this. Carol Waterman just got 17% of the vote. Were you not as annoyed by her as I was? Or maybe it's just the other two are so bad.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Ed Miliband and Lalani are the, runner up with 36% of the vote, which means our union jackass winner today is Zach Polanski nominated by Elizabeth Fox. Thank you both so, so much. And our greatest Britain has been nominated by Elizabeth Fox today as well. It's Susan Hall, who we saw in our digest. Elizabeth says she speaks directly, continuously challenges the corrupts Adhq Khan and sticks to facts rather than motion, speaking on the important issues and truth on what's happening to the UK. Okay, thank you so much for your company. Thank you for my superstar panel, Alani Downing and Elizabeth Fox.
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