Dan Wootton Outspoken - LUCY CONNOLLY FREED FROM PRISON AFTER 380 DAYS FOR TWEET IN NIGHTMARE FOR SLIPPERY STARMER

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Slippery Starmer’s political prisoner Lucy Connolly is a free woman – and now the housewife and grieving mother who spent 380 days in prison for a tweet that she deleted within... hours after the Southport Massacre is about to become the authoritarian Labour government’s worst nightmare. Dan spoke to Lucy in the minutes after her release – in the car with Ray, her Tory councillor husband, and her precious daughter Edie. He'll tell you what she had to say about her plans in his Digest. Then the Superstar Panel weigh in: Free speech advocate and CEO Kezia Noble – host of the show UK Now on Q News – and social media sensation and social commentator Leilani Dowding. PLUS: Woke ITV decides illegal migrants behind a sickening crime wave and sexual assaults on your daughters are the victims. AND: Eamonn Holmes is forced to apologise in another GB News free speech row after saying Kerry Katona looks “oriental” in what the woke media is describing as a racial slur. We’ll debate. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: The Daily Mail’s deranged campaign against Prince William and Catherine, the Princess of Wales, has stepped up a gear with a new hit piece from Liz Jones. So what’s really going on? We’re joined by Royal YouTube sensation According2Taz. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 297. And breaking right now, slippery stammer's political prisoner, Lucy Connolly, is a free woman. Breaking news to bring you now. We're just hearing that Lucy Connolly has been released from prison. Lucy Connolly has been released from prison. Because Lucy Connolly, who was jailed for stirring up racial hatred against asylum secret. who's online on the day of the Southport murders. According to the Crown Prosecution Service, she has been released from prison.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Yeah, Lucy Conno, we just heard, has now been released. So we think it was quite a few hours ago, but it has been confirmed she's been released. So that is good news, breaking news there. Now the housewife and grieving mother who spent 380 days in prison for a single tweet
Starting point is 00:00:58 that she deleted within hours after the Southport massacre is, I believe, about to become the authoritarian labour government's worst nightmare. This sort of revolting talk really did backfire. You will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves. Now, I spoke to Lucy in the minutes after her release,
Starting point is 00:01:28 the car with Ray, her Tory councillor husband and her precious daughter, E.D. I'll tell you what she had to say about her plans in my digest next. Then, my superstar panel weigh in. Free speech advocate and CEO, Kesea Noble, host of the show UK Now on Q News, and social media sensation and social commentator, Lalani Daldi. Also coming up on the show today, Wokei TV decides a legal migrants behind a sickening crime wave and sexual assault on your daughter are the victims. Ian Herssey Ali backs Tommy Robinson in a significant intervention after his trigonometry interview. LBC decides that James Bond must indeed be female, even after feminist Alan Mirren says, don't be so damn ridiculous. And Amen Holmes, forced to apologize in
Starting point is 00:02:23 another GB News free speech row after saying Kerry Ketona looks oriental and what the won't media is describing as a racial slur. We'll debate. Then, in the uncanceled after show on Substack, the Daily Mail's deranged campaign against Prince William and Catherine, the Princess of Wales, has stepped up a gear
Starting point is 00:02:38 with a new hit piece from Liz Jones. So what is really going on? We're joined by Royal YouTube Sensation, according to Taz, and you can sign up to watch at www.outspoken. It's the last greatest Britain and union jackass reveal
Starting point is 00:02:53 of the week before the end of the show, because then we put our four union and Jackass is head-to-head to be named the worst Britain in the world this week. But here are your nominees for today you can vote in the live chat on YouTube. Dan Jarvis, nominated by Sarah Booth for looking an absolute glibbering idiot whilst unable to answer questions from Emma Barnett about where the government will put illegal regulars, as they call them, post the Epian injunction. Delicious squeaky bum moment in a car crash interview, bet he wishes.
Starting point is 00:03:24 He was back in the powers. Angela Rainer, nominated. by Lut Manns for sucking up to Pakistan's Deputy Prime Minister, and Zia Yusuf, nominated by Darren Donaldson, the Reform UK Chairman, for spreading lies about Robert Generic. So three interesting choices there. Get voting. Let me know your thoughts throughout the show.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I'll read out your best comments before we go. Lots of reason to stay with us today. But now, let's go. Slippery Stammer's ultimate political prisoner, Lucy Connolly, exited prison today after 380 days behind bars, and she exited to a changed Britain. She knows that too. Remember Lucy, a grieving mother and housewife who was locked up for a solitary tweet deleted within hours, after Axel Ruda-Kabana's Southport massacre
Starting point is 00:04:24 was the example this authoritarian labour regime used to try and shut you up and shut me up. They wanted to use Lucy to terrify us into permanent silence, all while rapists and paedophiles and terror offenders were spared prison. But it hasn't worked. as the increasing migrant hotel uprising and operation raised the colours has so gloriously proven. I was honoured that the first people Lucy called on that journey out of HMPP to Pritter Day
Starting point is 00:05:01 where she was despicably manhandled by guards was myself and Alison Pearson, my friend and partner in crime who has worked so hard to bring the real story of Lucy Connolly to the world. I'm going to be honest with you yesterday, Lucy didn't know how she would face the public again. Understandably, she has been left deeply traumatised by her barbaric and inhumane treatment in the hands of an out-of-control government. But today she got her fighting spirit back. She got her strength back as soon as she was reunited with her husband, Ray, and daughter Eadie.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And my sense is that with the Trump administration watching on, she's about to become the worst nightmare for two-tier care because I can tell you that Lucy has been following the events up and down the country and she knows that the mainstream media can no longer be relied upon to tell you the truth even as they drove her release to the top of the news agenda today. Breaking news to bring you now just hearing that Lucy Connolly has been released from prison. Lucy Connolly has been released from prison. Because Lucy Connolly, who was jailed for stirring up racial hatred
Starting point is 00:06:22 against asylum seekers online on the day of the Southport murders, according to the Crown Prosecution Service, she has been released from prison. Yeah, Lucy Conno, we just heard, has now been released. So we think it was quite a few hours ago, but it has been confirmed she's been released, so that is good news, breaking news there. But much of the media still disgraced itself, as Nick Dixon pointed out.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Note the very different headlines from the relatively decent telegraph, so their headline Lucy Connolly released from prison pretty straight, versus the pure enemy BBC, woman jailed for race hate post released from prison. But here's the thing. Once you hear from Lucy, you will know that this narrative of her as, some type of far-right racist thug attempting to spread violence is nothing more than a hard left
Starting point is 00:07:19 fairy tale. She is you, she is me. Just a human being, a patriot deeply concerned about her country being destroyed in front of her very eyes. I'm proud that outspoken has been Lucy's biggest champion from day one. When the entire MSM, and by the way, and not everyone likes to hear this, but it includes the Daily Mail, G.B. News and Talk TV, when they were horrendously deriding her, joining that pitchfork, wave-the-mob. This is what I had to say about Lucy Connolly. So, Lucy's 12-year-old daughter, without her mother for up to two and a half years. And I say anyone who thinks that Lucy should be locked up when violent men who attack women at petrol stations for not dressing conservatively enough, or when people like Hugh Edwards receive
Starting point is 00:08:20 no custodial sentence for making child pornography, well, I think if they still think Lucy Connolly should be behind bars for such an extraordinary long sentence, then they have truly lost the plot. But the sick and twisted authorities are having to come for women like Lucy, one of just 400 so-called rioters or social media criminals who have been locked up. And they're doing it because their far-right bogeyman is nothing more than a figment of the imagination. And after that, I got to know Lucy's husband, Raymond Connolly. He is a highly respected conservative counsellor, absolutely adored in his community and a very good man. He came on spoken and told me this.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I went into the corridor and I went into the advocates chambers and I went in there and um he had cuts out and I said to him his own his wig on and his black gown and I said what just happened just day and he looked at me and said what do you expect when you got a dictator one in the country? I can I swear the journey started and nine months later, we're here again. What do you expect when you have a dictator running the country? Slowly but surely, over the past nine months and with the help of my friend Alison Pearson,
Starting point is 00:09:57 we have been able to prove to the British public that Stama has locked up an innocent mother for political expediency. Who can forget our Prime Minister's almost deranged comments, which I believe were clearly designed to influence the judiciary? I'm utterly condemn the far-right thuggery we've seen this weekend. Be in no doubt those that have participated in this violence will face the full force of the law. The police will be making arrests, individuals will be held on remand, charges will follow, and convictions will follow.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves. The principles that I would apply. Firstly, I'm strongly in favour of free speech. We've had free speech in this country for a very, very long time, and we protect it fiercely. I'm equally, though, against incitement to violence against other people. That has long been an offence in our country, and rightly so. And so I say, don't know the details of this case, but free speech, yes, incitement to violence, no. Lucy didn't incite violence whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:11:26 The words of her tweet included, for all I care. But what's great is that soon, former Prime Ministers were speaking out in support of Lucy Connolly. In the very week when it has been decided that Lucy Connolly must serve her full 31 months in jail, even though she's a young mother with no previous criminal records, the Labour government has announced that it's going to release literally thousands of serious sexual and violent offenders because they say there's no room in our jails. Well, Shabana Mahmoud, Justice Secretary, if you want to empty one jail cell and release one person who presents absolutely no threat to the British public, then free Lucy Connolly now. This goes back to the point I'm making about the judicial system. If we are clear about how judges are appointed in our system,
Starting point is 00:12:27 it's obvious judgments have to be made on a case-by-case basis, according to the evidence. We might not know all the details, Dan. But the problem is when the system is so opaque and people don't understand how people are appointed, what the procedures are, that is when you can lead to questioning of, individual sentences. I mean, I think it, I think it is about restoring accountability to our
Starting point is 00:12:59 system, say that people understand who is responsible, because at present, that is simply unclear. But what is clear is that the deep state wanted to shake Lucy up behind bars. They wanted to stun her, terrify her into silence, which included a terrible episode where she was, was manhandled by prison guards for mistreatment, even being raised in Parliament. That individual whilst in prison is allegedly the recipient of some violent maltreatment in prison, including being manhandled to the ground, handcuffed to the point where bruises, five days later are significantly present on their hands. Imagine them being then dragged up, not one, not two, but up three flights of stairs to the naughty girl's wing, as opposed to having
Starting point is 00:14:03 been a model prisoner, having been promised to be taken to the good girl's wing. This is, of course, the consequence in a distant democracy way you think this cannot surely be valid. But Mr Speaker, it is with regret that I must bring you back to the reality of the situation that actually this is the United Kingdom and in the last few months this has occurred. What's even more shocking is that the persecution of Lucy Connolly was personally signed off by Stama's Attorney General Richard Hermer and most appallingly it went against Stama's own guidelines
Starting point is 00:14:46 As the Daily Telegraph reported today, he had previously suggested that people who swiftly deleted offensive social media statements should not necessarily face criminal action at all. In 2013, when Director of Public Prosecution, Stama introduced guidance for prosecutors to consider a more lenient approach towards suspects who swiftly deleted social media posts and expressed genuine remorse. Lucy Connolly did both. The guidance urged prosecutors. to consider four factors where a prosecution is unlikely to be both necessary and proportionate. These included of swift and effective action has been taken by the suspect and or others,
Starting point is 00:15:26 for example, service providers to remove the communications in question. But we know why. He wanted Lucy Connolly behind bars to shut you up and to shut me up. But Lucy has now become a figurehead for Britain's free speech portrayal. as Nigel Farage posted on X today. Welcome to freedom, Lucy Connolly. You are now a symbol of Kirstarmer's authoritarian broken two-tier Britain. Rupert Lowe, who has invited Lucy to Westminster, added Lucy Connolly today is the day she finally comes home.
Starting point is 00:16:04 What has happened to that poor women and her family is evil. No other word. The family know that I will support them however I can, and I look forward to welcome. welcoming Lucy to Parliament for our debate. Today is a good day. Tommy Robinson added, Lucy Connolly has now been released, now released the rest of the political prisoners. And indeed today, I think it was only the deranged hard left that was still intending to attack Lucy. With anti-Brexit Virgin Femiola Wally posting, today the UK right wing welcomes home a terrorist with open arms.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Tomorrow, they'll claim to care about national security to justify targeting black and brown people. Lucy Connolly was one of the instigators of the most widespread terror crises in years, right-wing terrorism. Now, after that, let me tell you, I hope Lucy Connolly sues Femiola Wally's ass
Starting point is 00:17:07 into oblivion. And here's the most important thing. America is now watching. With Trump's favorite newspaper, The New York Post, reporting that the UK faces a free speech crackdown that sees up to 30 people a day, including the brilliant Bernie Spofforth, arrested for petty offenses such as retweets and cartoons. Some of the administrations, the Trump administration's favorite journalists, including Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh, have now taken up Lucy Connolly's cause. To be clear, Lucy Connolly was not threatening to commit any act of violence. She wasn't saying that she was about to go out and torch a migrant hotel or kill any politician, nor did she tell anybody else to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:56 There was no imminent threat of violence. She was expressing frustration as she has every right to do in a free country. But the UK is not a free country, which is why Lucy Connolly, for the crime of sending that one tweet, was just sentenced to two and a half years in prison. Two and a half years in prison for that tweet. Now, you may have heard about this case, especially now that the Trump administration says that it's monitoring, quote unquote, the situation.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's also been picked up by a few different outlets. But to really understand how pathological and disturbing this prosecution is, you need to see some of the details behind Lucy Connolly's appeal, which was just rejected by a panel of three judges. A lady called Lucy Connolly since you've been here. Of course. I talked about her yesterday, and no one knew what I was talking about in Cambridge. Who are you talking about? The students didn't know. I mentioned her because I did the research. My team did an amazing job.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And I think she just had her petition denied today. In the last hour or so today, it's Tuesday today, she's had her appeal denied. So she's going to be carrying out her two-and-a-half-year sentence for solitary tweets where she deleted four hours later. What's your take on the whole situation? Well, I'm going to try to get the U.S. State Department involved. I don't know if, you know, what their bandwidth is here, but I'm sorry, like, again, I'm speaking as a citizen, not as the U.S. government. I just want to be very clear, like, is this a way that a liberal democracy and an ally of the United States acts?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Just to be clear, what she said would not be any prison time in America. No, it's not. It is not how an ally acts. And it's not a country that invented, it's not how a country that invented free speech should be acting either. And trust me, there remains much too fair here in the United Kingdom with another. Major U.S. Pro Maga voice Tim Poole, suggesting that the UK is conquered. This was after a young man was said to be arrested for saying that he loves bacon, a statement which is apparently offensive to Muslims. Watch. Okay, we love bacon.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Why? Because I like bacon. Oh, G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-R-S-A! Oh, sweet! Oh, straight! I'm not to go. I'm not to show.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, sweet. Oh, straight. Let's go. So at this current rate, there will be. rate, there will be many more, Lucy Connolly's. But something Lucy told me today is that she has been harsened to see, the increasing patriotism
Starting point is 00:20:49 and beautiful fight back being conducted up and down our country, including this long embrace of the St. George's flag. Hello. You can come in, might want to let these ones go to them. Take it out. You can't go. Now come back. Not watch you.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Last two, last two, thank you. Cover it. Cover it. Don't have any obfixie. There you go, legend. It's a way! Take a long, boys. Overflage that, cover him up, cover him up.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Raise the colours, raise the colours indeed. And writing today in The Spectator, Rod Liddell, summed up the situation best. By saying that Slippery Stama almost certainly thinks that people with too fond and affection for the Union Jack and the cross of St. George are right-wing racists and entirely deplorable. Filed away in the back of his mind is the notion that it's probably just those football hoolies again, the ones who rioted last summer. What he is missing then is the importance of the current protest, the weight of numbers behind them, the fact that it is not just your usual suspects, the depth of anger it conceals and the problems which thus lie in store
Starting point is 00:22:34 in the future. The UK is quickly tipping towards serious civil disorder in many parts of the country. Whitey has had more than enough. A clever government would work out why this might be and do something about it. Unfortunately, Rod Little says, we do not have one. Now, two-tier Akia believed Lucy Connolly was going to become a symbol, a symbol of staying silent, a symbol of shutting us all up, shutting us all down in the disunited kingdom. But I argue that the opposite has happened. Her unjust imprisonment has made her a free speech martyr, whose voice I am convinced will soon become a big part of our national debate. Now, the superstar panel. And it is wonderful to have Kesea Noble and Lelani Daldine with me today.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Lelani, Lucy Connolly is free and she exits prison, I think not just a free speech martyr, but someone who could cause serious embarrassment to Kirstama on the world stage. I absolutely think so. To me, she is a hero. She's done time that she should never have had to do. It's completely, you know, it's inconceivable to Americans. And it should be inconceivable to us that this would happen for something that she put up and then took down within four hours.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I can't wait to hear her on your show and then hopefully hear her on everyone else's. She gets a platform to, you know, really give her side of the story. I want to hear why she wasn't given bail. I want to hear, you know, I saw Julie Hartley Brewer tweet that she was told she would be reminded in custody for maybe up to a year if, you know, if she didn't plead, which would obviously influence somebody, you know, who's got a child. She probably, I mean, I'm sure the duty solicitor gave her pretty terrible advice saying it, but, you know, when you look at people who have done far worse and ended up with suspended sentences, maybe she thought that by, you know, pleading guilty, she would get, you know, she wouldn't be put in jail. They would be leaning on her for us coming forward. So I want to hear her side and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And I think that, as you said, it's wonderful that Matt Walsh, Charlie Kirk, have, you know, champions her cause. I hope to see her on their podcast. I hope Megan Kelly speaks to her. I really hope she can get out her side of the story. And when people hear it, I think they are going to be even more. disgusted in this government and we must remember Peter Lynch who was killed in jail
Starting point is 00:25:32 God rest his soul exactly and you know Wayne O'Rour remains behind bars Julie Sweeney remains behind bars and it was all of these great people this is the thing it is the mainstream media who has absolutely taken on Lucy Connolly's
Starting point is 00:25:51 cause after we did a lot of the work and of course I support that but there's a lot of of people like this good woman, who they are completely forgetting. Kesea Noble, you are a free speech advocate. Well, I know for a fact that the US administration, the Trump administration, are looking very closely at Lucy Connolly. And I think this could put Slippery Stama, remember who lied to the face of Jady Vance in the over-lifers, lied to the face of Donald Trump at Trump-Turmbry.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I think it could put him in a very precarious situation. I agree, and I think that we need to see this as an opportunity to take a deep dive into the poison which is in the system. We're just looking right now at the government, and we're looking at Kirstama, and I know the buck stops with him, but we need to look at how this poison has now become part of the judicial system, even the prison system, journalism, the councils, the local councils, especially, the media. This is not, he can't do all this unless he has the cooperation. 100% without working together. They are absolutely working together.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And I refuse, Keziah, to say anymore that we have a justice system. I believe we have a judiciary and we have a judiciary that Kirstam approved is absolutely under the control of the deep. state because there is no reason. There is no reason when you look at the law that Lucy Connolly should have been remanded in custody. Lulani Dowding, I think what's really interesting, though, is that it's only the hard left Nussas now who are anti-Lucy Colleeny. I mean, we saw in her in court today. I mean, Femi Ola Wally, describing her as a terrorist. I want her to sue his virgin ass. I agree with you, Dad. I mean, it's ridiculous. She was never. put on terrorism charges that was never part of it so to say that is you know it's untrue she
Starting point is 00:28:01 I hope she does so but you know as we know the problem with that is it takes a lot of money to do that and you know she's being she's being locked up for you know the amount of time she has so I hope that I also want to say that it's wonderful that she's had this go fund me to um you know to support her because um you know she's she's not been able to work she's not being able to support her family. Maybe she can use some of that to actually do something next. There are legal fees. Even today, she was talking to me about the latest bill that had come in for thousands and thousands of pounds. So there really are a lot. I mean, can I just get you to respond Keziah to Narinda Kaur? Let's look at what she's had to say today. If you believe
Starting point is 00:28:48 that Lucy Connolly was jailed for a tweet, then you also believe that in science, to racial hatred is acceptable behavior. You do end of. She quite rightly pleaded guilty as she had pled not guilty. I can guarantee she would have been sat in prison for several years, given the context of her tweet, which was viewed over 300,000 times and people did go and settle light hotels. Not to mention the fact she had tweeted racist tweets before, and she said she had played the mental health card. A reminder what the judge said, Lucy Connolly endangered life. Now, Kesea, I sat in the high court during the appeal hearing. What Narenda is saying, is just completely untrue.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That the post was deleted days and days and days before there was any disorder outside any migrant hotels. And also all she actually wrote was for all I care. She didn't. She has no power. This is just a mother of one. She's not in charge of a party. She's not part of a party like Ricky Jones was.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And I would say that all Lucy Connolly needed to do was just to add the two magic words at the end of her post, which is Free Palestine. Because when you add those two words, Free Palestine, what happens is it gives you complete absolution from all sin. That's all she really needed to do. The good thing about this, and there is just one silver lining, is that the person who is representing her legal solicitor, He's not going to have much work after this. I mean, who's going to be employing his services? Oh, 100%. I mean, she was very, very badly let down.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Very, very badly let down. Because remember, Lalani, if she had ever faced a jury, she would have been able to tell them, quite honestly, the reason that she was so impacted by what happened by that terrible crime committed by Axel Rudy Cabana, that act of Islamist terrorism. And yes, I do call it that, Lalani, even though the mainstream media won't, because the bloody Cretton had downloaded an al-Qaeda Emmanuelan was preparing ricin at his house.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Okay, so it was an act of Islamist extremism, in my opinion. And remember, if she'd gone up in front of a jury, Lalani, they would have heard that the reason Lucy Connolly was so devastated is that she had a son, Harry, Harry Connolly. And Harry was 19 months when he died. And he died, Lulani, because of NHS neglect. And so Lucy Connolly knew what those parents of the victims of Axel Ruda Cabana were going to have to go through. I'm sorry, no jury would have ever convicted her, Narenda Corp. No way. I agree with you, Don, I don't think they would have.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Look at Ricky Jones. He did far worse. He was a far more influential figure than Lucy Colony, as he has said, just, you know, a mum with a little kid and she probably has PTSD from what happened to her child. I don't know how a mother gets over something like that. You know, I've lost a dog. And that's the worst that's happened to me.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I've lost a dog and that devastated me. So a child, to me, it's unimaginable. So for this to have happened to these children must obviously bring her back to losing her own child. So she said something in anger. You know, it wasn't anywhere near as aggressive as Ricky Jones. And if a jury was happy to, you know, allow him to give his excuses that he gave, you know, because he may have got a racist comment back when he was a child, which one of his defense arguments.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Oh, yes. I don't think they would have, any same person would not have, you know, found her guilty. But as I said, she wasn't allowed bail. It's huge. It really would mess with somebody's mind to say, for someone to say, we're reminding you in custody, you cannot go back and sort out, you know, anything that you need to do back at your home. We're going to keep you here. We don't know when your trial will be. You're just going to be locked up here. That's going to really affect somebody's, you know, somebody state. And, you know, then to see that at the appeal, that was denied. You know, as Kezias said, there really is something wrong with the judicial system and the
Starting point is 00:33:28 media. And it's a whole, you know, entity working together with this narrative. And as we saw, I think that we could, it's very plain now that Keir Stama is happy to go after to anybody that kind of goes against his establishment narrative and the establishment narrative. And, you know, as long as it's only things that affect us peasants like crime or pedos, then, you know, forget about them. We'll give them suspended sentences.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Even if they plead guilty, they can have a suspended sentence and we'll just, you know, really come down on those people and make an example of them that really rock the establishment. Now the mainstream media want us to believe that it is the illegal migrants, the rapists, the terrorists, the murderers who have come to our country on small boats. The mainstream media wants us to believe that they are the victims. And there is a major campaign going on in our regime media after the Epping victory in court over the Bell Hotel. It was centred around this dude.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Kiddhar Muhammad, he's on the front page of the Daily Mirror, a Somalian illegal at the Bell Hotel, who said he and others have no idea what will happen to them, saying that all so-called asylum seekers have been tared with an unfair brush and telling the Daily Mail, I regret it, I wish I hadn't come here. Well, I'm sorry, Kedar, Muhammad. That's the point, mate.
Starting point is 00:35:21 We don't want to put you up in four-star hotels because unfortunately, we can't take anyone. You might be, you know, a decent bloke. I've got no idea. But the vast majority of people coming across in boats are criminals. But Wokai TV decided to make this Somalian illegal the focus of their coverage last night, watch. How is it being in the hotel when you saw the violence outside and the protesting?
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's scary, scary, like, that's the only word to describe. It's scary. Nowadays, it's a bit calm about, in the beginning. It was so violent, you know. A lot of guys took some beating, you know, in the beginning. It's scary. It's just, it's an emotional thing now rather than a physical thing. It's just painful, emotionally painful now.
Starting point is 00:36:25 They've got a message to the residents of Epping and the local area. Yeah. I'll say, please give us a second chance. Please treat us the same way you treated us before the incident because we are the same people. We are the same people before the incident, you didn't view us as criminals or anything. You were okay with us before the incident took place. We are the same people. One person doesn't change us. One person does, does not, you know, you present us what we are, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:00 That's what I want to say today. And a message about having to move? Do you want to move? Police, I say, please don't move us. because if you move us, if anyone else, we want to do the same test. I'm sorry, this is far more than one individual, and this PR campaign ain't going to work. But it's certainly the message the elite class is pushing.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Look at this debate between Fraser Nelson, former editor of the spectator and Matt Goodwin. So Fraser Nelson, he's on the left. I'm sorry, he is on the left, posted portraying every migrant as a sex pest whipping up protest mobs, thrilling at the potential for ethnic violence, pretending that whites are dealt with more harshly by courts. It's untrue and irresponsible, says Danny Finkelstein.
Starting point is 00:37:47 But as Matt Goodwin responded, nobody is doing this. The only thing that's happening is liberal centrist like Fraser Nelson, Danny Finkelston, Rory Stewart, Allah are slowly realizing they backed the wrong horse. And everyone can see it. liberal globalist project is over. Liberal Toryism is D-E-A-D dead. And the left's bid to try and shift this imposition onto all men denying empirical evidence that it is illegal immigrants to this country, that it is these foreign nationals
Starting point is 00:38:30 that are committing these crimes by far, far greater proportions than the native population, is what they are trying to do. Case and point, Humes are useless, the horrendous former leader of Scotland, believe it or not, are they only lasted five minutes
Starting point is 00:38:47 because he's so useless. It's saying, no, no, no, he's got no issue with the illegals. It's just men. It's just men overall that are the problem. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:38:58 The Tories are telling us that we have to protect our children from asylum seekers. Well, as a father of girls, let me tell you that it's not asylum seekers I'm worried about when it comes to my daughter's safety. It's men, predatory men, who come in every colour, every religion, are from every background. Of course, those who do commit heinous crimes against women, be they asylum seekers
Starting point is 00:39:25 or those who have lived in the UK for 10 generations. They should and must feel the full force of the law. But when you purposely single out asylum seekers, as the Tories are doing, you're not interested in protecting women. You're deliberately trying to fuel hatred. You're reviving the old colonial lie that people from the east are somehow dangerous savages. This isn't just rhetoric. You've seen exactly where it leads. It turns fear into mobs who are ready to set fire to hotels that are housing asylum seekers. It leads to bricks through windows, it leads to fireballs aimed at vulnerable families who've already fled war and persecution.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And here's the truth. Violence against women is committed by men from every walk of life. Blaming asylum seekers doesn't make women safer. It just makes society more divided, more suspicious, more willing to turn on the most vulnerable. What the tories are doing isn't about women's safety. It's about stoking fear. It's the oldest populist trick in the book.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Let's make sure we don't fall for it. No, no, no. You are a propagandist, an irresponsible propaganda. Propaganda's whims are useless. I mean, let's just talk facts. Let's just talk facts. When you look at it per capita, here is the sexual assault, by nationality, right up the top, right up the top. Afghanistan. Right down the bottom. Look at that. Right down the bottom. Tiny. The United Kingdom. But of course, the lefties want to claim that anyone who has an issue with this, anyone who describes themselves as being a
Starting point is 00:41:26 proud Brit is in some way racist. Look at Matthew Stadlin, that utter loser on G.B. News. With the massive increase in legal and illegal immigration, in families coming over and things of this sort, that that goodwill, that good nature of the British people has broken. There is no such thing, by the way, as the British people. This is a phrase used by the likes of Nigel Farage to try. On earth, do you mean? I mean that the British people don't think as a lump.
Starting point is 00:42:01 We don't think as a lump. For example, you and I have very different views. Well, you know this. Reform have got what 30% of the vote. So please don't talk about the British people, because you and I are both equally British, and we are very different views on certain things. But what is happening is the Overton window on issues like this
Starting point is 00:42:17 has changed significantly. I think that's a truth in that. I think there's a truth in that. The phenomenon of flags being put up and down the country. That's just so pathetic. isn't it? I am as patriotic as the next man and woman. I disagree with it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I am as patriotic as the next man. I do not feel the need to go and start putting flags on lump post, but I don't feel insecure about my Englishness. I don't feel secure. I love our country. It's got problems. I don't need to go and shout from the rooftops. I do when I go to sports games, by the way.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Stop a moment. Oh my God. Oh my God. And then we have more statistics out today, proving that Labor have done nothing to smash the gangs. In fact, migrants in hotels have gone up 8% under this administration. Alani Dahlane Kesea Noble on the superstar panel. Lani, I mean, why do the mainstream media continue to gaslight us? Continue to try and put forward this concept of the fact that these men who are arriving illegally in boats
Starting point is 00:43:24 committing huge amount of crime are the victims? Well, I think the thing is, and it's very obvious now, is that they are just the propaganda arm for the government. That's all the mainstream media is. And fewer and fewer people are believing them. I've been posting about not paying my TV licence because I refuse to watch the BBC, why should I pay about it? And the amount of people that have actually said,
Starting point is 00:43:50 I'm not paying mine either. I'm not doing it. People are sick of it. see through it. You know, that guy was on ITV saying, I just saw the beatings because the presenter was feeding words into his mouth. What beatings did you see?
Starting point is 00:44:07 None of the migrants got beaten by anyone outside the Bell Hotel. That's just simply untrue. It's a load of hot air coming out of his mouth. And this is what the mainstream media want to keep portraying and saying to us that, you know, they're all these like poor little victims.
Starting point is 00:44:25 You know what? What we don't want is we don't want to be paying for these men and they are majority men to be put up in these four star and three star hotels or British housing because now they're looking for 5,000 British homes to put 20,000 of these people in. And we've also got to stop calling them asylum seekers because they haven't had their asylum process yet. They are illegals.
Starting point is 00:44:53 They're still illegals, and you know what? They should be held. But, Lolli, regardless of what happens, regardless of what happens in the processing, they are illegals. They entered the country illegally from France, from France, which is a totally safe country. So it doesn't matter what happens during the processing. They remain illegals. And they shouldn't be in hotels. They should be in, you know, camps.
Starting point is 00:45:21 We've seen, we'll, you look at. real refugee camps. They're tense. They're a safe space that anybody fleeing war would be happy to be in if they really were fleeing war. And I just want to point out a tweet that Keziah tweeted last week, which was how many British men fleed Britain when we were in the Second World War? You know, how many of them just left said, buy women, buy kids, I'm going off to another safe country. How many? None. So, you know, that was a great point. Keziah, actually, yes, let's look at this post on X from you, Keziah. You said, does anyone know how many British men left their women and children behind to seek asylum during World War II? Thanks. And of course, we know the only British men who left the country were British men who were going to serve.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah. So I watched that ITV interview and I felt like I'd woken up in a Monty Python sketch. There's a man on there who they could have at least picked someone with some better acting skills than him. And he's run away from a country which is run by gangs and militia, which is Somalia is a hellscape. There's a completely different culture to ours. and it's a direct confliction with our culture, anyone that comes from there. Doesn't mean all of them are bad, but the culture itself is in conflict with our own culture. And he's saying that he's scared, but he's come from this hellscape, but he's scared of being here. So what I suggest to him is that he finds a dingy, gets on it, and gets out of here if he's that scared. 100%. 100%. Look, at the end of the day, this gaslighting, from the mainstream media simply isn't going to work anymore. They have lost the argument, they have lost the narrative,
Starting point is 00:47:22 and I genuinely believe that the British people are no longer going to take this absolute rubbish that we are seeing because it's just ludicrous. It's just absolutely ludicrous. And the worst, by the way, is Paul Brand of Woke ITV. Breaking right now, Tommy Robinson has secured a significant endorsement in his bid to become an acceptable figure to lead the British Revolution, that of Ion Hershey Ali, one of the world's most highly respected critics of Islam who lived through the hell of the Muslim Brotherhood. Her significant intervention came after watching Tommy Robinson's trigonometry interview, where she posted on X, just watched this. Robinson is brave, steadfast, and a hero of our times.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Now, I believe that this was really significant from I. Because when she was here and outspoken last year, I asked her about Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage, because at that point there was this war raging, I guess it's still raging, between the two men and what direction we need to take to save the United Kingdom. And I want to show you her response, but I would argue that she was coming down more on the side of Nigel and her support of Tommy Robinson was lukewarm at best. Watch. When the label, xenophobic, far right or racist is thrown around, I find that not credible.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So my instinct, my impulse is not to look at Tommy Robinson and think, or he's far right. I think that's, he's labeled that way because of the issues that he's talking about and he's raising. But I think that the question you're asking is, should you do it through the political system or should you do it outside of the political system in a radical, flame-throwing way? and I don't think we have a choice in this. I don't think you can sit there and say, you know, you do it the radical way, you do it through that. I would choose to do it through the system.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I would choose to say, first of all, it's this system that's democratic, okay, the rule of law, the political culture that we have, that we formed over many centuries, that's parliamentary. That's exactly what we want to preserve. That is what the radical Islamists want to destroy. So let's not help them destroy it. So let's do it through the system and get the majority we need to change the policies,
Starting point is 00:50:13 to get to the policies that we need to get to. But so much has changed in such a short period of time. And Iyan Hersi Ali now describing Tommy Robinson as a hero of our times. Here's some of that interview that changed her mind You've got to arrest him Stop him, shut down this And then the government just go
Starting point is 00:50:36 And we'll just pandered to them So you've seen on and then now The country's seen it You saw it on the Hamas riots You saw them calling for jihad on the streets Oh, we're mad We're going to have got We did say
Starting point is 00:50:47 Literally calling for jihad And then the police are putting out a statement saying jihad lads lots of different meanings Not when it's coming from his but to here, it doesn't. Because that man's saying it is part of a prescribed terrorist organisation in most countries. Right. But not this pathetic country. It is now.
Starting point is 00:51:04 It is now. Again, it wasn't at the time. Again, it is now. Why no? Why wasn't it for the last 20 years? His but to hear, every Islamic society and every university around this country was his butt here. So kids are going to university and a terrorist group, because they're now a terrorist group, but they've always been a terrorist group.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Just aren't a weak pathetic government didn't prescribe them because they didn't want to upset people. It's like, mad. You don't upset them until they're calling for jihad until they're openly saying the madness that we know they've been promoting anyway, yeah? They've made universities total no-go zones for certain communities, and whilst jihad runs. And how can you disagree with that hypocrisy?
Starting point is 00:51:41 Tommy hadn't finished there. What happened, Tommy? A gentleman steps off the train at St. Pancras. He's ready to leave some pancreas. I come into St. Pancras and I go to get my train. He sees me and he beelines for me. He follows me, but he don't just follow me. He gets here in my face, yeah?
Starting point is 00:52:00 He's in my face. He's confronting me, telling me he'll end me, telling me how little I am screaming at me. I mean screaming at me, yeah? Screaming at me. And I'm the whole time just going, mate, fuck off. And I do warn him multiple times. I said, look, and as I was watching,
Starting point is 00:52:14 I'm paranoid anyway. I've just come out of seven months since solitary confinement, yeah? I'm pretty on edge. I remember for the last couple of months, I'm not myself anyway. Basically, he follows me for two minutes. and he's getting him away and I'm trying to get around him
Starting point is 00:52:25 and I get away from him once and he comes back after me and he comes back after me again and I'll say to him mate if you come back in with my space I'm going to defend myself because in my mind he was just trying to get close enough to snake me that's why I was thinking the whole time I know what you're doing but I know what you're doing so I was trying to move back and I get to the top of the escalators at the stairs
Starting point is 00:52:42 and he's following me so now I think well he'll kick me down stairs I'm going down to a train you'll kick me in front and he was a big fella if you look at he was a much bigger, it's not hard to be bigger than me but he was a big fella I then step back to let him go. Say, go on, you fucking go. You go down the stairs. But it doesn't go downstairs. He gets to top of stairs and he turns on me. This has all happened quick to me. I know I've had
Starting point is 00:53:02 to defend myself. He's ended up asleep on the floor. I've only hit him once, yeah? I've pushed him and then as he continued to come at me the whole time I'm going backwards, but I couldn't really remember at the time or straight afterwards. So as soon as this has happened, he don't look in a good state, yeah? I'm thinking, right, I'm on London underground, I'm on my own, crowds are going to come, this ain't going to be good. So I'll leave. As soon as I leave, I contact the police, which is the recording you would listen to him. Contact the police and say, look, this has happened. I've been walking. I've been accosted. I've been threatened. I've tried to get away multiple times. I had no option.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And perhaps what was most powerful. I mean, obviously that was him addressing the most recent scandal. But I think perhaps what was most powerful in the trigonometry interview was when he was able to prove that his message had been so consistent over so many years that it has started to prove so many of his detractors wrong. I've got death threats threatening my family and she said, well, I haven't got death threats. Do you know why I haven't got death threats? Because I'm a nice person. And I said, try and talk about Islam, you'll have deference. Seven years later, she spoke about Islam. And then she's sitting on loose women crying, said, I've got death threats. It's like, welcome to the
Starting point is 00:54:15 real world, darling. What has happened to me through having this opinion and speaking out the way I do. It's destroyed my life. It's destroyed my wife's life. It's destroyed my mother's life. I live with constant death threats. I've got some of them here, if you want to read, when we talk about a two-tier policing system. I have to wear a bulletproof vest. I've got people wanting to murder me and massacom me. Well then stop being a racist and a bigger. Racist, can you, can you please please please please please? Can you, please, can you, please explain one thing. No, I am a British citizen. I was born in this country and I do not spout off rubbish like you do. Okay. No, what am I saying this rubbish? I haven't got death threats.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Do you know why? It's because I'm a nice person. I want harmony in this country. If you talk against Islam, you love, yes, but, Trump. In this culture, it's even more taboo. Because once you bring shame to your family, that's it. You know, the consequences are you could be killed, you could be ostracized, and literally, you just, you know, the whole family splits up. When I came on here to talk about what happened to me, it was a family member.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I took me years to come out and say it. And I just did it spontaneously on loose women. repercussions on my family have been horrendous. Did some of them not believe you? They didn't believe me. They had to go at my mum. You know, it went all the way back to Pakistan and the family there. So, look, it illustrates perfectly why as a 13-year-old or whatever, you wouldn't come out and say something.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Absolutely. Absolutely fascinating. And I think not a surprise that Ayan Hursi Ali has come out now so publicly supporting Tommy Robinson. Of course, for those who don't know, She is a Somali-born politician. She went through the hell, the absolute hell of extreme Islam, including, by the way, fleeing an arranged marriage. And of course, there was a fatwa against her after a very controversial film called Submission with Theo Van Gogh in 2004, which resulted. altered in his murder.
Starting point is 00:56:20 To my superstar panel, Kizia Novel and Llanie Daldine, Lalani, I mean, how on earth can you claim that Tommy Robinson is in the wrong when you had Saira Khan, all of those years ago, describing him as a racist, then she speaks up about some of the terrible, terrible things that go on as a Muslim woman in the United Kingdom, which I believe. she is now non-practicing, and she immediately talks about the ostracization that went on, the challenges to her family. I mean, I know there were many years between those two interviews, but fundamentally, she proved his point. Absolutely. And this is what seems to happen with everything that Tommy has said. Time goes on, and it looks like he was right about things.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I watched that podcast, it's almost three hours long. And it was fascinating because they really let him delve into how he started and things that happened to him and his family in Luton, which was a rough town, which a lot of us would never, you know, dream about and have nightmares about even. And then, you know, fast forward to now, what he is talking about in Luton, you see it down in Bournemouth in my hometown that you to be this like sleepy little retirement town and you see a lot of what he's talking about
Starting point is 00:57:48 with a knife crime and the rapes and you see it happening there. So a lot of things that he has said and he talks about them all on trigonometry have come to pass for everyone else in the nicer parts of the country than Luton. And I think it's a really important podcast to listen to and I can see Constantine and Francis. Their opinion is changing in their face. changes in real time listening to him and they do push back on him they ask him about you know his you know violence earlier on and the football hooliganism um and so they give push back to him and he and but when you listen to him you're like wow you know he's grown up he's now 40 not in his 20s and he's um and he makes a lot of sense in what he's saying and this is what i've said a lot as well
Starting point is 00:58:39 um like the lady that you're talking about who is advocating for these. women. He talks about honor killings. You know, he doesn't just bash all Muslims. He talks about Muslim women and advocates for them and the honor killings and how that are happening in Britain or Pakistani girls that are sent away to go and get married. He talks about all of this as well. And he talks about Saudi Arabia and UAA who recognize the Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist groups and our soft government still don't. You know, he talks about that. So he doesn't just go pure, you know, anti every single Muslim. He's talking about extremism and he's talking about how, you know, in the more moderate Muslim countries, they're not allowing these
Starting point is 00:59:25 terrorists and extremists, which is probably why they come here where they've got safe harbour. You know, and the 40,000 Islamist terrorists on a watch list in the UK, and 3,000 of those have to be followed 24-7. Yeah, Kesea Noble, it was such a fascinating interview because, of course, Constantine Kisson and Francis Foster, the host of Trigonometry, had actually been on the bandwagon, I guess, for some time of, no, no, we're not going to have Tommy Robinson on. And I think their changing position, but also the full-throttled support of Ion-Hursey-Ali is part of this rapidly shifting Overton window when it comes. to the acceptance of Tommy Robinson as an important force in the British culture. 100% Dan, and I think that this is an opportunity where the right need to unite. That's something that the rights struggle with a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:27 So this would be a great time to see reform councillors and spokespersons at least be allowed to show their support. Because you see, he's speaking now for more and more people. his popularity is growing whether you like it or not it is growing and you can't ignore him anymore you can't ignore his message anymore you can't just sit there and hope he goes away quietly because he won't and if he does his message will continue so this is a point in time where the egos need to be put aside and we just need to unite because his message is strong and it is growing.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Totally. And this attempt by the mainstream media to turn Tommy Robinson into a bogey man to pretend he doesn't exist to only report on him when there's some type of criminal witch hunt going on or there's some type of court case going on as Talk TV and GV News does.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Unfortunately, I just think it speeds up your death. It speeds up the death of the mainstream media because any serious media organisation in this country can't just ignore Tommy Robinson, but also can't just dismiss Tommy Robinson as a far right thug. Because, of course, we're coming to next month's uniting the kingdom rally. What happens if, as Tommy Robinson predicts, there's one million in the capital city, protesting peacefully? Just imagine if that were a left-wing protest, like the protest against the Iraq war.
Starting point is 01:02:05 in Tony Blair's days, which received wall-to-wall coverage. It's going to be absolutely fascinating to see how they deal with the next few weeks. Okay, the biggest dunts in the United Kingdom this week, and most weeks, to be fair, is Sheila Foggety, the hardcore feminist of LBC, Katie Hopkins' nickname Fatty Foggety, cruel and not mine, there you go, has decided that James Bond must be a woman. Now, this comes after even Helen Mirren, who describes herself as one of the world's biggest feminists, ruled out that possibility in an interview as ludicrous, given the
Starting point is 01:02:56 clue is in the name Bond, James Bond. But this is what Sheila Foggety said during a day. typically bonkers appearance on her hard left LBC radio show. Dame Helen Mirren has said that she does not believe a woman should ever play Bond. And I disagree with her. The logic that Dame Helen Mirren was using was exactly the same logic that locked women out of many walks of life for centuries. That old-fashioned argument, women shouldn't be cab drivers, women shouldn't be bus drivers,
Starting point is 01:03:33 women shouldn't be milk deliverers, women shouldn't be this, women shouldn't be that. I can't see any difference in the logic of that nonsense and the logic of what Helen Meryn has said. Just imagining Sheila Vogarty as Bond, that madness even prompted the Sunday Sport newspaper to post on X. Once again, our spouting preposterous tripe crown is knocked from our heads. So it's only fair that I have a superstar panel. of two women to debate this, Lelani Daldine and Kesea Noble. Lelani, why on earth would you want there to be a female, James Bond? How on earth doesn't make any sense?
Starting point is 01:04:18 Do you sign up at all to what Shirley Fogarty is putting forward here? No, absolutely not. James Bond is a man. It's in the name, as you said. There's plenty of space for a woman spy series if they want to create. one. But James Bond is a man. It's like you wouldn't have Harriet Potter. It's Harry Potter. You know, women can do whatever they want to do. It is not the same as a woman can't be a cab driver or a woman can't be a milk lady or whatever she's trying to say. That's real life. This is a book and it's
Starting point is 01:04:54 about a man called James Bond and that's how it should be. And like I said, go write another TV show. In fact, there's a great show with a great lead actress, Lioness. That's all action and everything else. You want to watch some action? Go and watch Lioness. That's brilliant. You know, with a great lead, a strong woman, goes and fights, has guns, whatever. You know, it's just, it's ridiculous. We've got to stop with this woke nonsense. We really do. And most people find it stupid anyway. It's just, it's ridiculous. Kesea Noble, do you support the idea of a female bond? As much as I support the idea of a man playing Wonder Woman So I've read the books
Starting point is 01:05:37 You know, for your information, Timothy Dalton was the best bond, okay? It's not up for debate, he was. And I'm such a purist that even when Daniel Craig came along, I was like, he's too short and he's too fair head. Because I've read the books. No way! Oh my God, I love Daniel Craig's Bond. But okay, I won't debate it with you.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I won't debate it with you. Proved himself, but he's not as good as Timothy Doughton. That's not up for debate, Dan. That's just that. I wouldn't dare. Having a woman would just sabotage a very successful franchise. It's extremely successful. Now, if it was on its knees, do what you want with it.
Starting point is 01:06:15 It's a dead dog. You know, do what you have to do to get it. You can tweak it. You can experiment a little bit, which is what I love about the James Bond films, is that each one's a little bit different. They try something, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But if you put a woman there, it will sabotage such a successful franchise. And as Lalani said, for heaven's sake, if you want to see a woman kicking butt and, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:39 being in the Secret Service, just make a spin-off. Just make a whole different film and, you know, let the people who want to see that watch. But the thing is, there are so many. There are so many. I mean, there are so many shows. I'm going to be honest with you, any news. any new sort of action drama or thriller either movie or TV series that I put on on one of these woke streaming platforms like Netflix or Disney Plus or whatever it is Amazon
Starting point is 01:07:05 every single one of them seems to have an ass-kicking black female prime minister or president so I'm like there's sort of no shortage of this always got to do that like person of of colour in a position of power female and has to be female and preferably lesbian as well so that would be the optimal one of it a black lesbian
Starting point is 01:07:31 female position of power always in it and you can probably guarantee it in a BBC show that's for sure oh absolutely you can Kizia let them make that that and that put that on that said to keep
Starting point is 01:07:45 that to keep Sheila Furgity happy and people like her happy. And let's just stick to James Bond and just get another Timothy Dalton and everyone's good. But by the way, if this was Sheila Foggety just putting herself forward for the job, my team have imagined what type of bond she might be. But I think that's far too flattering, if I'm honest. I think the suit would have to go up a couple of sizes. She is not kicking anyone's butt. She is not kicking ass that woman. I'll tell you what, they might run away from her because they'll get bounced off her maybe, but she is not kicking anyone's book.
Starting point is 01:08:25 She's like one and she talks like a Rottweiler, you crazy. Yeah, I know, I know. By the way, there was another sort of woke story that exploded this week, though. Dawn French, this is from Peter Lloyd. Dawn French has been axed from this year's M&S Christmas advert following her anti-Semitic rant against Israel. this is what she said and then later apologised for. Watch. Hmm. Complicated. No, but nuanced.
Starting point is 01:09:02 But, you know, bottom line is no. Yeah, but, you know, they did a bad thing to ask. I mean, I don't need that. Yeah, but no. but we want my land and we don't know you know history and you know you know no those people not even people aren't I really really no now now I am usually against cancel culture in fact I'm always against it but this one is quite interesting to me Lelani
Starting point is 01:09:44 Because you just know that no one on the right whatsoever. Like no one with a political view on the right, even if you weren't controversial, even if it wasn't a controversial view. If you were on the right, there's no way that M&S is signing you or signing you up to be part of your M&S Christmas campaign. No way it just would not happen. So I sort of feel what's good for the goose is good for the gander. And Dawn French has now turned herself, transformed herself from a sort of
Starting point is 01:10:14 sort of beloved comedic figure who stayed out of politics to someone who is on the hard left. And as a result, I actually don't blame Eminess for dropping her from the Christmas campaign. Do you? No, I see what you mean. But, you know, like I'm also a free speech absolutist. So I think she embarrassed herself with just her haircut alone and then the delivery and then everything she said. You know, so she embarrassed herself. I don't know that they should have taken that step based on that alone,
Starting point is 01:10:46 but they may realize that it's going to affect sales, having somebody like that who hasn't really taken into account that there are still hostages from October 7th being held. So, yeah, I mean, you know, it is what I don't have sympathy for it. Kizzi, what about you? Like Lelani, I'm a free. speech advocate. She has the right to spew Hamas propaganda rubbish that she's read on Hamas.com, whatever it is where she's getting information from. That, you know, that's her right.
Starting point is 01:11:27 But it's also the right for Marks and Spencers to say, okay, fine, it's our right to say, you don't fit with what we're looking for for this, for the Christmas season. It's a free market. That's how the free market works. So say what you want, but pay the consequences when it comes to your contracts and, you know, any kind of like deals, advertising deals that you're expecting also. Yeah, absolutely. I think all I would say about this is that there is no way that anyone who expressed even a mildly right-wing political view would ever be booked in an M&S Christmas commercial. I don't think it should be that way. I'd love to see Katie Hopkins as part of that campaign, but you know it wouldn't happen.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And I'm sorry, what Dawn French was putting forward in, as Kesea puts it, there, Hamas propaganda was far more extreme than anything you'd ever hear Katie Hopkins say. So maybe we need to reach a point of equality where either people can all be booked for jobs, regardless of their political position, or no one can be. But there's a hypocrisy here. and actually constantly I see people with these hard-left extreme political views getting big corporate or commercial contracts when no one on the right would get them
Starting point is 01:12:47 and I think it's completely unfair. Breaking right now, GB News caught up in another cancellation row as the mainstream media go hard on Aiman Holmes for a so-called race shocker after he described Kerry Cotoner as looking oriental after cosmetic surgery. Now, I think this was always the trap.
Starting point is 01:13:21 By the way, she does a little bit. Look at those eyes. Love you, Kerry, though. Love you, Kerry. If it's making you happy, then good on you. But yeah, I see what he means. But look, this is the problem with GB News, and this was always going to happen.
Starting point is 01:13:35 After the cancellation of Lawrence Fox and myself, you remember Lawrence Fox came on air, said he didn't want to shag a woman called Ava Santina. We were after the watershed. I slightly giggled. All hell broke loose because I wouldn't give some type of dressing down apology to Lawrence Live on air. And I always knew that this was going to happen where GB News, the so-called free speech channel, tried to start forcing its presenters into humiliating on-air apologies. And that's exactly what happened today. And it was awkward because what became quite clear is that Amon Holmes did not either want to apologize and did not believe he had to apologize. So I'm going to show you what Amon Holmes said in this conversation with Kerry Cotona, then watch the botched apology, clearly forced upon him.
Starting point is 01:14:33 And Lani Daldine posted on this, why is everyone so offended by everything? Racial slur? My mum used to say Oriental all the time, referring to herself. She prefers it to Asian, which included the whole continent, differentiating Chinese, Thai, Filipinos, etc., from Indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi Asians. The offence started in the US and has come here. It's boring. I referred to myself as half Oriental many times, as well as half Filipino if I want to be specific. Don't forget, many have surgery to make themselves look Western. So why can't we talk about some surgery making Westerners eyes slant more? Are we going to pretend people like my mother don't have eyes that slant? I even have very pronounced folds. Watch what happened. An uplift, but what I don't like is we're joking. You don't look oriental or anything, do you? Well, I don't, I don't, I just wanted the skin removed.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I didn't want to change my face. I just wanted the skin that was hanging. And apparently, you're not allowed to describe someone as looking oriental, or I don't know how I would then describe Gary Katuna if her eyes changed shape. I don't know how I'm going to say, does she look like someone from some other country in the eastern, the world. The world is ridiculous how you have to apologise for people. I mean, if she painted herself, oh, I don't, I don't get into this.
Starting point is 01:16:10 But anyway. But Kerry looks beautiful. Kerry looks well. And I'm sorry if you don't look well and we've offended you in any way or, well, I don't know. Anyway, do stay with us. 7.32. Oh, my God. That is astonishing because there are so many parallels between what happened with Lawrence and I.
Starting point is 01:16:30 you see what Ellie Costello, who is the co-presenter did. She was trying to sort of just move on from this, and she did exactly what I did. She described Kerry Cotona as beautiful. That's what I said about Ava Santina, the woman Lawrence Fox didn't want to shag. And the off-communists decided that it was a misogynistic comment. Well, are they going to say that Ellie Costello was making a misogynistic comment?
Starting point is 01:16:53 To my superstar panel, Kesea Noble, and the aforementioned Lelani Daldine. Lelani, this is extraordinary on so many levels. I mean, I do want to speak to you about the comment because, of course, you have these personal feelings given your background. But first, can we just talk about this from the perspective of GB News?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Because isn't this the risk when you go down this woke path and you keep trying to force your presenters into apologies that they don't believe? That was actually an incredibly uncomfortable piece of television because he didn't want to apologize. Yeah, it was. extremely awkward and you can see it and actually I don't think he had any reason to
Starting point is 01:17:32 apologize he didn't want to he was kind of being held hostage um and you can see it and I'm glad actually it came across that way because it's it's getting it's getting absolutely ridiculous now and the crazy thing is it's even more parallel to yours because I think he actually said you don't look oriental it was I don't know if he was being sarcastic or the head headlines in the Daily Mail said he made a racial slur calling her Oriental. But actually, I heard him say, well, you don't look Oriental. And so to me, you know, they're saying that you can't use the word Oriental, which, because that's offensive. And I don't know which bit's meant to be an offensive term, actually, because I'm half Oriental. My mom used the term. Obviously, I'm half Filipino. That's a terrible picture of her that's shown up. And I think he was trying to say, but now it's healed a little bit. She doesn't look like her eyes are particularly slanted. But you can see here, you know, I've got these Asian oriental epicanthal folds.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And what? So we're going to pretend that, you know, people from that region, their eyes don't slant. It's all ridiculous. And I can guarantee you that anyone offended would not be Chinese. Japanese, Korean, Thai, Filipino, guarantee it. I would put money on it. The only offended people are going to be some middle class white person. Liberal. I just, I just, Lulani, I mean, has Oriental ever been used as a derogatory term? Because I think it's like something that's quite like, you know, mysterious and glamorous. Exactly. It's almost positive. I just, I don't
Starting point is 01:19:28 understand how describing something as Oriental is considered inappropriate, but I know that sometimes these rules change. Well, my mum has always used Oriental to describe herself. If I've ever said Asian, well, I'll go back. My mum has always used Oriental. I went to Los Angeles where I heard a couple of Chinese people say, oh, we're not Oriental. That's a rug. They were offended, but it's woke L.A. So, of course. Then I go back to my mom and I say, well, the people I met in L.A.
Starting point is 01:20:01 say it's really offensive. They like the word Asian. And she's like, but that's usually used to describe more southern Asian, like India or Pakistan. So she was never offended. She used the term all the time. I, as a half Filipino,
Starting point is 01:20:21 half Oriental, I'm not offended. And I don't. think talking about the shape of somebody's eyes based on their lineage is also, I don't find that offensive either. I mean, we've discussed it so many times. Like, who's got eyes most like mum? You know, my sister and I say it all the time. So again, it's not going to be us that's offended by it. It will be some, you know, minging, liberal, just raging at something. I know. And obviously, G.B. News has now turned this into a bigger story for forcey and
Starting point is 01:20:54 Holmes to apologize. And Kesey and Hobel, what's really interesting for me is one of the reasons why I refused to deliver some type of, you know, ludicrous. Oh my God, I'm so sorry, Lawrence Foxx, you're a terrible person. I didn't want to do that because I thought that it would also just bring a lot of attention to something unnecessarily, which is why in my case, I did exactly what Ali Costello did, because you just think, oh God, let's just move on from this. Oh, Kerry Coton is really beautiful. Oh, Ava Santina is really beautiful. But Kesey, Does this not show the limitations of GB News as a free speech channel because they live in constant fear of the off-communists?
Starting point is 01:21:33 So remember I said at the beginning of the show, there's this poison, and it's called the two-tier poison, and it infects everything. So why are you being treated differently to this lady? Show me. Show me one difference. What does she do, and what did you do differently? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Nothing. There you go. Yeah, I don't want to say too much about GV News, but I'm finding it now that everything's getting a little bit of vanilla on there. Like, I used to watch it and love the characters on there. I loved you. I loved Lawrence Foxxon there. I loved the, I forgot in his name.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Mark Stein. And the priest. Father Calvin Robinson. Brilliant. I used to tune in. And they always had these different kind of Lalani used to be on it. and they had all these, like, different voices on the panels. I just watched it a few times.
Starting point is 01:22:27 I said, it seems to be like there's a rotation of about six people that are on there all the time now. As six panelists, I'm not talking about the presenters so much. And I've kind of been like, this is all just getting a bit vanilla. Like, I want to see the characters. I want to see those outspoken people. I want to see the mistakes. I want to see the goofs. I want to see someone make a mistake.
Starting point is 01:22:47 And that's human being. I think it has moved to. It has moved to the mainstream, hasn't it, now? It's very much ITV daytime style. That's what they want, I think. It's not quite happen, but that's what they want. That's their goal. But it's taking out the vibrancy and that fun and that,
Starting point is 01:23:05 just those interesting characters. I used to always think, oh, who they're going to have on next? And now it's like, oh, it's that person again. Hmm. Okay. So, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Alani, do you agree?
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah, and I think watching them, keep on wheeling out the real lefties like Femmy and Matthew Stadling is getting really tedious as well sitting you know through them speaking nonsense to give balance because they have to give their balance and this is like the stupid thing about it no one actually believes what they're saying and then I well believes what those people are saying but they're wheeled on there to appease off com you know that's all they've done the entire time um they think of you You know, if we just feed offcom, their little tip bits, they'll back off from us. And, you know, it first happened with Mark Stein.
Starting point is 01:23:58 And Mark Stein was brilliant. You know, he was one of the most viewed presenters on there. And then it fed into your show. And it was just great for the evening. And people really wanted to tune in and see what was going from a different perspective, from a, you know, a thinker's perspective, from somebody that's able to think critically. Now it may as well be, you know, Sky News or Talk TV or the BBC
Starting point is 01:24:28 because it's all just, you know, everyone's trying to be careful about what they're saying. No one can speak freely. Everyone's walking on ice. You know, are the off-communists going to, you know, come after us? So, you know, it's really changed and it's really sad. Yeah, no, it really has. but I would say good on Eamon for not giving a grovelling apology.
Starting point is 01:24:54 I think that was the right decision and he's not scared, which is good. And, you know, good on Ali Costello for describing Kerry Ketona as beautiful. But let's just see, let's just see if there's two-tier treatment here. And I have a feeling there will be. But what a fabulous superstar panel. I always love having Lelani Dowding here. and making her debut, Keziah Noble. Now, Keziah, what is your website address
Starting point is 01:25:22 and where can we watch your show UK now on Q News? So UK now on Q News, you can find it on YouTube, and you can find it on my ex account, Kesea underscore Noble, and my website is kezia-noble.com. Amazing. Well, please come back. I've loved having you, and Lelani, hope to see you very, very soon. Thank you both so much.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Okay, we're going to reveal today's great. Greatest Britain and Union Jackass in just one moment. Loads of superchats coming in from you, though. So thank you for that. And thank you so much too for Marshall Marguson, who has joined Outspoken Plus over the course of the show. So let me get to your super chats first. Philip Shepard says,
Starting point is 01:26:01 I feel we are fighting a battle in this country against this Labour government, but the light always prevails. My God, I hope you're right, Philip. Private Jose B32 says, Go fund me for Lucy so she can sue the government. go on girl and i will tell you the go fund me that alison parson and myself set up is still live uh steve forest says only reason she's out so she isn't a call to arms that is an interesting take jason tripp
Starting point is 01:26:33 has a proposal get lucy on stage on the 13th so she can hear over 500,000 show their support and chant her name and lest we forget peter lynch r ip absolutely uh Alex marman writes to have an idea what losing a child is like or a mother, I suggest that people watch a podcast with Perry Edwards of Little Mick's openly breaking down about her two miscarriages. You don't get over it. And Alex is of course referring to the fact that Lucy Connolly had lost her child and that's why
Starting point is 01:27:01 she was so devastated on the day of the Southport massacre. And in the drug war today.com says, Dan, I fell in love with the two women from earlier referring to Tillalani and Keziah. I missed the whole segment asking in their glory. Thanks. I needed it. Yes, they were great, weren't they? Absolutely brilliant. So good to have them. Okay. The results are in, but a reminder of your Union Jackass nominees for today. Dan Jarvis, nominated by Sarah Booth for looking an absolute glibbering idiot while unable
Starting point is 01:27:33 to answer questions from Emma Barnett about where the illegals from Epine will go. Angela Rainer, nominated by Lutmanz for sucking up to Pakistan's deputy prime minister, and Zia Yusuf, nominated by Darren Donaldson for spreading lies about Robert Jenrick. And in third place with 6% of the vote, Dan Jarvis, the runner up with 20% of the vote, Zia Yusuf. But whoa, a whopping overwhelming winner, Angela Rainer with 74% of the vote, is your union jackass. So straight after the show, I'm going to put up the major poll to find out who is the worst Britain in the world this week. I'm fascinated because I think this is going to be super close.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Maybe I'm wrong, but let me just remind you of the nominees. On Monday, it was Ricky Jones, the Labour counsellor who was found not guilty despite wanting to slit all the throat, you know, who I mean. On Tuesday, it was Benjamin Butterworth. I actually can't remember what for. What had he done? I think he'd said something ludicrous in regard. Oh, no, I know what it was. I know what it was. He said that if you were taking down the, sorry, if you were raising the colours, if you were putting up the flags, then it meant you were a jobless loser. He was Tuesday. Wednesday, Rachel from accounts, Rachel Thieves for just destroying the economy. Thursday, Angela Rainer, the deputy prime minister. I think this could be a really interesting race, actually.
Starting point is 01:29:04 So I'm going to put that up on my YouTube in just a couple of minutes in the YouTube or post section and you can vote there. But today's Greatest Britain is, of course, Lucy Commonly, nominated by Cat Gibbs 4, who says, Let's make the 21st of August the Lucy Connolly Day. And it absolutely will be here on outspoken. Now, coming up in the Uncanceled After Show on the Substack, The Daily Mail's deranged campaign against Prince William and Catherine, the Princess of Wales, has stepped up a gear with a new hit piece from Liz Jones. What's really going on?
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