Dan Wootton Outspoken - LUCY CONNOLLY LAUNCHES ATTACK ON SLIPPERY STARMER & NARINDER KAUR AS SHE SIGNS FOR OUTSPOKEN

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

It has taken an ordinary woman in extraordinarily horrific circumstances to become the voice of the people. When Lucy Connolly was jailed for 31 months for a solitary tweet sent on the day of the Sout...hport Massacre where the monster Axel Rudakuabana slaughtered to death three beautiful young girls, she became the international pin-up for Two Tier Justice in Two Tier Britain. A Disunited Kingdom where paedophiles like Huw Edwards and Muslim women beaters do not spend a single minute behind bars, but a grieving mother is brutally locked up to prove a point to all of us to stay silent. But Lucy Connolly will NOT be silenced, as today she officially joins Outspoken, where she will contribute her views on the news on a regular basis as a member of our Superstar Panel. Today she joins Dan for the entire show to reflect on her changed life since leaving prison and reuniting with her family, as the revelations about Rudakubana and a shocking cover up by the deep state make her initial X post even more understandable. PLUS: After a Reform UK conference standing ovation and TV appearance with Nigel Farage, is Lucy Connolly ready to declare her political intentions? AND: How does Lucy feel about Slippery Starmer’s egregious and ongoing free speech lies? THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Dan is joined by Royal YouTube sensation According2Taz to reveal how Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are now puling in different directions. ign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:22 19 plus Ontario only. Please play responsibly. Concerned by your gambling or that if someone close, you call 1866-3-3-1-2-60 or visit comixonterio.ca. No spend, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken. Episode number 356, a special edition of the show today. It has taken an ordinary woman in extraordinarily horrific circumstances to become the voice of the British people. When Lucy Connolly was jailed for 31 months for a solitary tweet sent on the day of the South Massacre with a monster, Axel Rudy Cabana, slaughtered to death, three beautiful young girls. She became the international pin-up, like it or not, for two-tier justice in two-tier Britain. A disunited kingdom where paedophiles like Hugh Edwards and Muslim women beaters do not spend a single minute behind bars. But a grieving mother is brutally locked up.
Starting point is 00:01:30 to prove a point to all of us to stay silent. But breaking right now, Lucy Connolly will not be silenced as today she officially joins Outspoken where she will contribute her views on the news on a regular basis as a member of our superstar panel. Very excited about that. But today she's with me for the entire show to reflect really on what's changed
Starting point is 00:01:59 in her life since leaving prison and reuniting with her family, as the revelations about Ruda Cabana and a shocking cover-up by the deep state make her initial ex-post even more understandable. Also coming up on the show today, after a Reform UK conference standing ovation and a TV appearance with its leader Nigel Farage, is Lucy Connolly ready to declare her political ambitions? How does she feel about slippery stammer's egregious and ongoing free speech lies?
Starting point is 00:02:35 And the loony leftist obsession from the likes of Femi Olawoli and Narendacore continues. We will get her reaction. Then in the uncanceled after show on Substack, while what a week it has been for the British royal family, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle now pulling in very different directions. The Duchess, the fake Duchess, as I call her, going back to acting, the Duke of Delusion, wanting to come back to the United Kingdom. No, thank you. So we're going to team up with, according to Taz, over on Substack, for all of the week's
Starting point is 00:03:13 Royal News, you can sign up to watch at www.outspoken. Live register completely for free and join the Outspoken Revolution, because we have the special edition today. a note that Greatest Britain and Union Jackass returns on Monday. But now, let's go. Lucy Connolly, welcome officially to Outspoken. It is going to be so great to have you as a regular here on the superstar panel. And I mean, isn't it fascinating, Lucy, that here you are an ordinary woman who had your voice taken away, but now in so many ways you have become the representative of what Brits are thinking
Starting point is 00:04:02 as we see this crazy country around us almost collapse. Yeah, it's very surreal, isn't it? It's hard to think that, you know, just a few weeks ago I was locked up in a cell and now, you know, I'm on here with you. And you never expected to be in this position, did you? No. You know, firstly, I never expected to go to prison. my life. And then obviously when it first kicked off and before the likes of you guys got involved
Starting point is 00:04:29 and all of that, the mainstream media, you know, were really not kind to me and didn't report the full facts, etc. We know how they operate. And yeah, I didn't ever think that the tide, you know, would turn as much as it has and people would be supporting me as much as they do. And do you feel like you have a responsibility now to keep speaking out? Because I guess you had two choices, didn't you, Lucy? And we spoke about this. And I was always very honest with you when you left prison. You were going to have to take a bit of time. Of course, you needed to tell your story initially, which you did hear on outspoken because of what had happened. But at that point, you hadn't decided whether you were going to be able to speak out and keep talking about
Starting point is 00:05:15 the news. Because of course, doing that, expressing your views was what saw you locked up by the British state to begin with. So how difficult has it been to make that decision? I mean, it's been nearly three months now, Lucy, to make that decision and say, no, no, no, what I'm seen around me is too important for me to just go away. Yeah, I think in the very beginning, I was very guarded and I thought, you know, I need to be really careful. The last thing I need is to be, you know, we're called back to prison and stuff. But this is just too important. this is my child's future that this is what I'm fighting for
Starting point is 00:05:56 and we're all fighting for and I just think I've made the decision now and I'll tell anybody the same as long as you're it's legal it's not derogatory it's not racist any of those things
Starting point is 00:06:10 you know what you can say what you like and if we have free speech in this country then we have free speech we can't pick and choose who gets free speech when we get free speech we either have it or we don't I totally agree. I totally agree. But I am so glad you have made this decision. I didn't want to put any pressure on you because I also know having spoken to political prisoners like Tommy Robinson, for example, there is an adjustment period. There is a certain amount of trauma that comes from being locked up unfairly. And I just wonder, Lucy, how has that adjustment been? Like, have there been low moments over the past three months since your release?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah, of course. There's days, you know, most in the main, it's been really positive. People have been so kind, you know, I can't go to the supermarket anymore without, you know, somebody's stopping me and shaking my hand or, you know, saying how sorry they were and how much they support me. And I've only had good, you know, press from people when, you know, I was worried about that. I was worried about, you know, am I going to go be in Tesco's or Audi or whatever and somebody's going to, you know, a bit hating on me when I do my shopping. But it's actually been the exact opposite.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Everybody has been so kind. A lady going to go to me and wait a day and fistpumped me and said, thank you so much for taking one for the team. You've really spurred me on to start, you know, doing stuff. You know, I've got grandchildren and this is just too important to ignore. And, you know, that makes me feel a bit proud. It makes me feel that all this, you know, trauma that me and my family have been through. Maybe it wasn't all for nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So no hate, no abuse. Only online, but no, not in person. I haven't had one single person come up to me and say, you know, what you said or did was awful, da-da-da-da, or I don't get, I don't, I haven't even noticed any funny looks or, yeah, it's just, it's been really surreal, but in a really positive. way. And it gives me hope. It gives me hope that, you know, there are lots of us like you and I out there fighting for our future and our children's future. I do think something has changed, Lucy, and I really think you have been a part of that. I do. Because sometimes it does take an individual to galvanise that sort of feeling of unfairness. And there were other cases. And I spoke about them regularly on the show as well. And I am proud that we were the first to highlight the terrible
Starting point is 00:08:58 plight of the Southport political prisons here and outspoken long before anyone in the mainstream media even considered it. There was, of course, you. There was Wayne O'Rourke, there was Julie Sweeney, a whole handful of you. And I mean, Wayne O'Rourke has been released, but his bail conditions mean that he is unable to speak, he's unable to go on social media. So, you know, there is still a silencing by the state that's going on. I mean, I know, I know what the state will argue and what probation will argue, etc. They will say, well, you know, just because you're out of prison, your sentence hasn't finished, you've got X amount of time, you're expected to serve that under license conditions, you know, et cetera, et cetera. This is all they'll say. But I think
Starting point is 00:09:44 in my case, I mean, they did initially put a lot more conditions on me than they have now. But I think with me, it didn't really matter. If they, if they gagged me and they said, right, you can't speak to the press, you can't do this, that and the other. But obviously, Ray can. Ray's not under license. Ray hasn't, you know, Ray hasn't done anything wrong. So I still, to a degree, had a platform via him. And he would have 100% spoken out on my. half and, you know, as we know, has supported me all the way along. So in a way, there's no way that they could have kind of shut me down in the degree that they've been able to maybe other people, because Ray obviously has that platform too. Indeed, as a conservative
Starting point is 00:10:33 counsellor, and of course they also attempted to cancel him. That was one of the most shocking things. I think the other big event, Lucy, that has really changed things and shown a galvanisation of the British public was the Unite the Kingdom rally that took place in London, terrible coverage from the mainstream media, but it didn't matter. I mean, we had over a million watching here on outspoken, for example. And I don't know if you're aware, but I wanted to show you this video of Tommy Robinson in conversation with Ezra, Levant, where he spoke about your case and the fact that if he could, he would have served the prison time so that you didn't have to. Watch this. Connolly is not a criminal in my eyes,
Starting point is 00:11:26 in the whole country's eyes, I reckon. She's a mother. She was angry, as were many in this country. Angry and betrayed. As migrants coming off boats, 15 billion pounds is being spent. Working class families can't feed their families, can't hit, old-page pensions can't heat their homes, and hotels are being flooded and filled with migrant men, many of whom sexual offenders gone on to rape, gone on to commit terrorism. So when that attack happens, I wasn't aware at the time,
Starting point is 00:11:50 but Lucy Connolly lost her own child, I believe. So she's lost her, and it triggered things for her. And everyone, what social media is, it's like shouting, and then she shouted, yeah, and then she realized it was wrong, and she deleted it. Now, even if the state and the government, because it was all political, because they got the courts within 48 hours to imprison all these people.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah, I've never seen that before. It's never happened. You've seen that for actual crimes. Now, you know, Tommy is a man so unfairly represented by the MSM on so many levels. I'd never show you this. Tommy then pledged that he would have done all his time. So far, she's done a year. She's got a 12-year-old daughter, send that woman home.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Do you know if I had the option, because I got out four months earlier, I'd have done my four months. my phone arms and let her go. Let that. Lucy, had you ever seen that? No, I've never seen that. I mean, I've vaguely heard something about him, but, you know, like I said, it doesn't matter what people's
Starting point is 00:12:50 overall views on Tommy Robinson are. It's very, very difficult right now to disagree with most of what he's saying. And I have, you know, a lot of respect for him for speaking out, you know, on that level and volunteering to do my time. You know, not many people would say or do that, you know. And, you know, we can't keep ignoring him.
Starting point is 00:13:17 He, okay, he's got a past. He's made mistakes. None of us are perfect. None of us are whiter than white. Let's not pretend we are. But I think it's becoming increasingly more difficult to ignore what he's saying because show me where he's.
Starting point is 00:13:33 say if we just go back the last two years, show me what where is, you know, what he's saying is wrong because it's not. And then I'm so happy that, you know, he got found out guilty this week, last week, when if it was, because it's about time we had a judiciary that went by the laws and, you know, and wasn't politically biased. I mean, I have a lot of respect for that judge because right now there are not many judges that are, you know, using the judicial as they should. they're using it to, you know, politically point score. So I think that's another massive wake-up call for people that, you know, hate on him
Starting point is 00:14:11 and the mainstream media that refuse to report on him and stuff. And I will always say about him, you know, how long do you hold stuff against somebody? Okay, when he was a teenager, he got into fights, football, you know, do you know, do you know what? So do lots of people, I know, lots of my friends when they were younger. It doesn't mean to say that that person, Now, you're not the same person you are in your 40s as you are when you're a teenager.
Starting point is 00:14:37 100%. So just because somebody makes a point that, you know, you can't just ignore everybody's points because they've got a past or you don't particularly like that person. If somebody's making a reasonable point, they're making a reasonable point, we should take that on board. But I think with him, he just gets shut down whether he's making a good point or not, doesn't he? Because, you know, people want to, you know, well, their painting was all sorts,
Starting point is 00:15:06 don't they? Lucy, I wonder how you've felt this week and if it's been difficult for you watching what has emerged from the Southport Inquiry. Because of course, your first tweet which sparked all of this and changed your life for better or worse, saw you locked up, but then so you became an international figure was because of what happened that day when Axel Rudy Cabana went to that Taylor Swift dance class and brutally slaughtered three young girls to death, changing the life of many other young girls. You as a mother who had lost your young son was deeply emotionally affected.
Starting point is 00:15:52 But of course, what happened after that event, Lucy, was a deep state cover-up. And for a long time, we weren't told the truth about Axel Ruda-Cabana, the fact that he was an Islamist convert, the fact that he had an Al-Qaeda manual in his room, the fact that he was producing ricin. And at the inquiry this week, the details that have emerged from the immediate family of Axel Ruda-Gabana, who remember were welcomed into our country, Lucy, I mean, they are from Rwanda. they were welcomed here as a result of the genocide in that country. The details have been shocking. His brother, who I don't blame, by the way, Dion Rudy Cabana, I do not blame the brother. It's just a child. 100%.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And I do not think the brother should face sanctions. But what he revealed and what his father has admitted is that the family knew. The family knew that this guy would kill. and the father has now claimed responsibility at this inquiry Lucy but he's faced no punishment he has total anonymity the inquiry revealed that they were prepared to protect him not release pictures of him not force him to give evidence in person and connor tomlinson a regular hereon outspoken has advocated for the deportation of the Ruder-Cabana parents.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So given your personal connection to this case and how it changed your life, I wonder how you've felt looking at these revelations from the inquiry this week. I mean, I knew that, I always knew that it was going to be bad. I think we all did.
Starting point is 00:17:39 We all knew that, you know, it was going to come out that, you know, lessons would be learned and all of this nonsense. I knew that he'd probably been in contact with, you know, social services and all of those things prevent, I mean, it's pretty obvious, especially the way they tried to close everything down in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But I couldn't even begin to imagine that it was going to be this bad. I mean, yes, we all want to protect our children, but he has blood on his hands too. You know, if you know that your child is as sinister as that, I mean, what kind of mother turns a blind eye to children ordering knives? Wasn't a chef, was he? I mean there's just no words like they just don't have children then
Starting point is 00:18:26 you know if you can't parent them they are equally to blame us him because they could have stepped in they could have gone to the police they could have you know they knew that the school were concerned that head teacher was told you know oh you can't profile him
Starting point is 00:18:42 as a black boy with an eye and you must take out the word sinister I don't think sinister is not even the word for him, is it? Like, have we ever, ever met, had anybody like this in the system before? This, this horrendous, this sinister. And it wasn't just an overnight thing, was it? This had been, you know, was it 10 times he'd been caught with a knife in school or something?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yes, and of course, there was, as usual, all of the pressure that came down on the head teacher, you know, you don't want to be seen as racist, the father trying to sort of, not totally tell the authorities the truth because he was too worried about losing his son. I mean, it was a catalogue of failures. And if you know what it's like to lose a child, right? So if you are the parents of Elsie or Beebe or Alice, I just wonder how you ever forgive, given that they were sitting ducks. I don't think you can forgive or forget.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I just think that you have to, they're just going to have to find some kind of way of, you know, rebuilding a new life, you know, a new normal, as they say. This, you know, this is going to haunt them until the day they die. And unfortunately, in this case, obviously this is going to go on for some time. Inquire is going to go on for some time.
Starting point is 00:20:06 This is the case that will be talked about, you know, all of our lives. It's the biggest atrocity of my lifetime. So unfortunately, you know, it's always going to, to be there, isn't it? And they're never going to be able to get over this. Never. And they're never going to be able to, you know, have a normal life as they did before. Just grief when you lose a child, it just doesn't work like that. I mean, hopefully at some point they can find peace and they can and try and build their lives. But more importantly, I hope that they get something positive out of this inquiry, that they feel that all of their questions have been answered and, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:44 no stone is left unturned because that's really important when you lose a child and you lose a child in circumstances where it shouldn't have happened you want to know every single detail how did this happen why did this happen could this have been done could that have been done otherwise you drive yourself insane you know wondering and and my experience is better to know and I felt better after Harry's inquest because some of the questions that we had had been answered whereas before we just felt like we were banging our heads against a brick wall you know they closed rents they say it wasn't them
Starting point is 00:21:22 they didn't do anything la-di-da-di-da same old so I really hope that this inquiry can bring these families some kind of peace and closure and that they it's a full and thorough inquiry and it's not, you know, preempted by them. And I hope that they genuinely answer questions that the family want answered
Starting point is 00:21:47 as opposed to answering what they want to answer or what the government wants, you know, wants the spin on things to be. So I really, really hope for their sake that this is a really full and frank inquiry and they get the answers that they need. The country is obviously in deep political tracks. Deep, deep, deep, dark political trouble with terrifying times ahead.
Starting point is 00:22:15 So what is the answer? Well, Lucy Conley has been teaming up with Reform UK and its leader, Nigel Farage, prompting much disdain and fury from the mainstream media, who thinks she should permanently be thrust out on. of the conversation. But look at the reaction. Look at the reaction when she appeared on stage at Reform UK's conference in Birmingham and was welcomed like a returning hero, even receiving a standing ovation. I'm going to be crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And overhaul the prison system, especially the women's estate. It doesn't work. It's a waste of all of our money. And it just needs, we could let 80% of the women population out of prison. And none of us would be any danger. They need housing. They need mental health. They need rehab.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And they just need people to care. That's it. Yeah. So Lucy Connolly. Have you joined? Reform UK is the start of a political career? Well, I certainly am a member of reform now, yes. And then I've been doing a few local events with them
Starting point is 00:24:18 and I've got a few things in the pipeline. And I'm hoping to meet with Sir Pottenchin. Is it Potchin? Poachin, yeah. Poachin and her team to discuss the things in the future. And yeah, hopefully that we're going to. going to be able to work together and, you know, put some things in process for when, you know, if and when they do win the elections to, you know, reform the system as it currently is
Starting point is 00:24:49 because, as we know, it doesn't work. We've seen that this week. I mean, how many people do they accidentally want to, to let out of prison? God, I know. Absolute joke, isn't it? Absolutely joke. Would you ever consider running? I mean, you've obviously got a husband who, is a frontline politician for the Conservative Party, would you actually consider running for office? I don't know. I mean, I would never completely, you know, dismiss the idea. But do you know, politics is a nasty game, as we've seen.
Starting point is 00:25:25 You know, I just don't know whether I want to be a part of that. I mean, poor Sarah the other day when she made, you know, some comments on her views on adverts, she got absolutely crucified, you know, on social media. by the mainstream media. And I just think it was just her opinion. You know, and I don't like all this in politics. You know, I just think that everyone should be allowed their opinion.
Starting point is 00:25:49 It doesn't matter which party you're representing. And I don't know if I want to be a part of that. I think I'd rather be kind of in the background, given, you know, advice on my lived experiences within the prison system. Yeah, it was terrible what happened to Sarah Poach. because remember what she was saying was backed up by statistics. You know, so there are 4 to 5% black people in this country, yet they feature an over 50% of ads.
Starting point is 00:26:24 So that's the point that she was talking about. But of course, it was decontextualized to try and turn her into a racist. And Lucy, the same thing did happen to you. That degree of political nastiness happened to you. And it was almost like they thought there was a, I guess, way to get at Nigel, to cancel Nigel, to cancel Reform UK by saying they shouldn't have put you on that conference stage. Well, they're obsessed, aren't they? Did you see the interview with Nadine Doris on Good Morning Britain?
Starting point is 00:27:03 You know, they had an MP on there and they used their whole. time to try and you know slander me and again whatever you think about me I've done my time it's regardless whether you're your team Lucy or not team Lucy people that go to prison eventually unless you've done something really you know like heinous and you've got a life sentence people are getting out do you so these lefties that are you know wishing harm on me do you do they not believe in rehabilitation and giving second chances then because That's very double standard, isn't it? Considering everything else they shout about.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It's the irony of the be kind woke mob. Absolutely. They're actually the least kind people in society. 100%. I know we don't call them the Be Kind Brigade for nothing, do we? But yeah, like regardless of how you feel about what I said, the fact of the matter is I spent 12.4 months behind bars away from my family and I've now got a, you know, answer to probation
Starting point is 00:28:06 until March 2027, you know, I've done my time. And it was for a singular post on it. Stone in the street? 100%. What are you trying to achieve here? 100%. But what was quite interesting, Lucy, is that despite the controversy,
Starting point is 00:28:27 Nigel Farage brought you on to his GV News show. And this is the first and only time that you have appeared on that channel. It was a fascinating discussion because it's very clear to me that Nigel is so conscious of the mainstream media criticism. So he was making it very clear
Starting point is 00:28:49 that he wasn't endorsing your post on X. But I think he was sympathetic to the broader point. So for people who missed it, let's just take a look at the highlights of that moment when Nigel chose to interview you.
Starting point is 00:29:05 What I know, you live in the heart of England, married to Ray, a conservative counsellor, a mother, a childminder over the course of the last 10 years. Have you yourself been, you know, on X, Twitter as it was, have you been very political in the past? Yeah, I mean, I get involved in the politics and a good old debate on X. I'm known for that. Never personally attack anybody, you know, always keep to the facts. I accept that, you know, we're never going to agree, and that's absolutely fine. But, you know, I don't wish harm on anyone that doesn't agree with my opinions and my political opinions, as has been wished on me and yourself. And, you know, that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:53 No, and in fact, in your work as a childminder, you know, a Nigerian GP, whose daughter you cared for, described you as the kindest British person, I know. So that was quite a testament. I mean, we were all, you know, deeply shocked by what happened on that day. And it was later on in that day at 8.30 in the evening that you put out this particular post. Mass deportations now set fire to all the effing hotels full of the bastards for all I care. While you're at it, take the treacherous government and politicians with them. physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure if that
Starting point is 00:30:40 makes me racist so be it and that's what you put out at 8.30 that evening clearly what you said there was intemperate because what I found interesting was that three and a half hours later having taken the dog for a walk you deleted the message Yeah, I did. Because as I've said before, it wasn't my finest moment. And I know that was an awful thing to say and it wasn't the right thing to say. So, you know, when I wrote that tweet, I was just so emotionally charged and upset and just, I still to this day, can't quite believe that somebody's dropped their children off at a dance class, a Taylor Swift dance class, and never got to pick them up. And the worst part of it is I do know how that feels. And I just, it's just beyond comprehension that. That happened, you know, and then you begin to think, am I going to drop my child off at gymnastics next week, et cetera? Is there some nutter going to go in there and do the same thing? Is it safe? Can I let them go?
Starting point is 00:31:44 And all this crazy stuff goes through your head. And it, you know, and it just sent me into, for want of a better word, an overdrive. So it was an interesting discussion, wasn't it, Lucy, because Nigel obviously feels intense pressure when he's interviewing someone like you because he, knows how much the mainstream media are looking to cancel him. What's he been like with you privately? Yeah, Nigel's great. I've had lots of conversations with him off the camera.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I always find him engaging and willing to listen and actually just quite a well-rounded guy and kind of lives in the real world. That's kind of how I see him. What did you make of him? his comments about what we have been seen on the streets of East London over the past couple of weeks. It was, to me, the old Nigel coming back. And to be honest, Lucy, I was delighted to see it because I think we need more of this straight talking. He described the scenes as looking
Starting point is 00:32:54 like an invading army taking over our streets. Yeah, I think everyone needs to remember. And Nigel himself, you know, this is, the type of people that are going to vote for Nigel are the type of people that are agreeing on his stance. You know, he said that and everyone's sitting there nodding their heads and going, yes, you're right. Yes, brilliant. Somebody's got to say this because, you know, no one else is going to it in the government, in the establishment. And I think he needs to be like keeping it up because no, you know, nobody's going to, that's never. because it votes for him or is going to vote for him is going to hold that against him, but they might hold it against him if he starts kind of, you know, worrying about
Starting point is 00:33:39 upsetting the left or upsetting, you know, everybody, because this is to me what reforms all about, common sense and, you know, that ability to say stuff that perhaps other people dared and say. And if they kind of rein that in, as long as, again, as long as they're doing it in a legal, you know, manner, not derogatory, all of those things. Good, good for them. And what they don't want to do, in my opinion, is make the mistake that the Tories made over the last 14 years, not being Tories.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So, you know, everyone that used to vote for them now won't vote for them because they don't stand for what the Conservatives, you know, typically stand for and people aren't down with that. So they've lost all these voters. So reform don't want to be losing voters because they're appeasing the wrong people, if that makes sense. Yes. the people that are going to vote for Nigel and his team
Starting point is 00:34:35 are not going to be offended by most of the comments that he makes. Well, quite the opposite, quite the opposite, actually. Because, I mean, it's very obvious that we do have a problem with Islamism. And if we're not talking about it, then it's never going to change. But of course, we also have a major problem with the not just illegal but legal migration,
Starting point is 00:35:01 of Islamists into the UK. And last week, Lucy, seeing Wayne Broadhurst bludgeon to death in broad daylight, allegedly, and you know I'm always transparent about this, we have to be careful because of the UK's draconian contempt of court laws, but allegedly, and he will face trial, by an Afghan migrant who arrived here illegally, on the back of a lorry in 2020,
Starting point is 00:35:31 but was then given leave to remain by the Conservative government is a complete disgrace. And it just felt Lucy like that crime just wasn't spoken about. Like it was never raised in PMQs because I guess there's that sort of conspiracy of silence amongst the main parties, aren't they? Obviously, Reform UK doesn't get a question and Labor doesn't want to talk about it for very obvious reasons. They are in power. It raises too many difficult questions. The Tories don't want to talk about it because really, thou to blame for the fact that this alleged killer is in the country. But it sickened me the fact that there was not one mention of Wayne Broadhurst in the
Starting point is 00:36:17 House of Commons, not one mention whatsoever. And within about 24 hours, everyone had just moved on. Now, I obviously wouldn't show it on the program, Lucy, because I think it's people's choice to watch footage like that, but I did watch Wayne Broadhurst being bludgeon to death on X. And it's the type of footage that will be ingrained in my brain for the rest of my life. And I just start to think that there is now a conspiracy of silence amongst our elite class, just not to talk about these things, just to pretend that they're not happening. And that's why people like you are really important and people like, I, because, and I made a point to my friend the other day, and I think it's a really important one, because we all say, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:05 how many more, how many more, what is this going to take for the government to wake up for people to realise that these are not just one-off things anymore. We're in danger. Our children are in danger. And this really sad thing about Wayne was not only did he not get the coverage that he deserved and his family deserved, but then two days later, we've got, some maniac running around on a train stabbing people. And everyone's talking about that. So really quickly they've moved on from Wayne to this, this nutter that was stubborn people on trains. And then in
Starting point is 00:37:39 two days time, there'll be something else. And then in two days time, there'll be something else. And in two days time, there'll be something else. So it seems like these poor people aren't getting the recognition they deserve anyway. And then everyone's quickly moved on because we've got another atrocity that, you know, that's happened, no longer are we in a situation where it's a rare incident. And just the last couple of weeks have shown us this. So how many more innocent people have to die or have to be injured, families have to be destroyed before this government acts and says, do you know what? We need to do something. Totally. Totally. I mean, I couldn't agree more. And
Starting point is 00:38:22 you know what with the train attack it was almost like it was so much easier for people to say oh well it's not an issue because because this person is British born just need to remind everyone Axel Ruda Cabana was British born the 7 7 Islamist terrorists were British born that is not the start and the end of the discussion let me tell you and if that's how we view it, then more and more of this is going to happen. The problem is we are led, oh, sorry, you come in, Lucy. Sorry, how many people have been in the system that they're watching, that they're aware of a danger to us,
Starting point is 00:39:08 but they're not acted upon because they are of colour or from a culture where they're worried about upsetting. They might be, you know, Muslims or they're black or they're Asian. And this is not me being, you know, and we don't act upon, you know, it's fact. We've seen that with, you know, acts with Havana. We've seen that it was brushed into the carpet. We, you know, a head teacher with a lot of experience trying to do her job was shut down
Starting point is 00:39:34 because they didn't want to, you know, you know, say anything about a black boy. The same happened to me in prison. I got verbally attacked by an Asian girl when I arrived in Drake Hall. She was renowned for being, you know, an absolute bully and terrorising people in the jail. I was the one that had the prevent duty talking to me because she said, I was racist, this, that and the other because they're scared to death. If somebody of colour makes a complaint or plays up,
Starting point is 00:40:03 they're scared to death that they're going to be called racist and we need this to stop. You know, it's irrelevant, it should be irrelevant, your skin colour or your culture. If you're a danger to us, you're a danger to us and you should be, you know, an action should be taken. They need to disquit. with this, oh, you know, they might call us racist,
Starting point is 00:40:24 they might say we're Islamophobic or whatever it might be. You know, if there's evidence there to suggest somebody is a danger, they need to act upon it. Totally. You know, we've got the grooming gangs, we've got Aksa Rueh Bada, we've got, you know, how many more times, how many more times? Because do you remember with the Ariana Grande bombers as well?
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'll never forget that. Yeah, but the security guard admitted at the inquiry, just like we've seen with Rudy Cabana, that he was too scared of taking action and properly doing his job because he was fearful of being called racist. So it's what I describe as woke tyranny. It is woke tyranny,
Starting point is 00:41:03 and it is designed to shut us all down. Now, to describe me as a racist as the most lunatic thing anyone could do, I mean, literally I've lived my whole life completely colourblind. So I just don't care anymore. Do you see what I mean? I just don't care. And I'm the same, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And it just, when this first happened to me, I was absolutely heartbroken. And I kept saying to my family, you know, I'm going to have to walk out this prison and walk down the street. And people are going to be saying, there's that racist, you know, which I don't want anyone to think that of me. Not that I care about anyway. But, you know, it's become such a throwaway insult and a throwaway comment now. You're just like that, oh, okay, you know, I'm a racist. then? 100%.
Starting point is 00:41:51 100%. It's become a meaningless put-down, which is, I believe, connected to woke tyranny. I really, really do. And we can't give into it. The problem is, the United Kingdom has been led
Starting point is 00:42:04 by a vacuous man, an empty shell of a man. He's being controlled, very, very clearly being controlled by the globalist elites. But probably, the most disturbing thing is that he's a liar. He is a liar. Slippery Stama is a liar and we have to let that sink in because of course on multiple occasions there has been a hope that he would
Starting point is 00:42:34 have to after Lucy Connolly's imprisonment that we he would have to own up and in some way acknowledge that there was a problem with free speech in the United Kingdom that the country of the Magna Carta had fallen down in its ability to protect folk for expressing opinions that maybe his side of politics don't agree with, but certainly do not reach the level of hate speech or inciting violence. But what Stama does, every single time is just goddamn lie. And it doesn't matter whether he's being asked by his apparent ally, J.D. Vance, the vice president, or Biv Turner. The journalist who he hates from G.B. News, it doesn't matter. He's going to lie because this man is a liar. And so Lucy Connolly, I want to show you just a couple of moments
Starting point is 00:43:31 that Slippery Stama did lie to the world about you, about free speech, about two-tier justice. Watch. that there have been infringements on free speech that actually affect not just the British. Of course, what the British do in their own country is up to them, but also affect American technology companies and, by extension, American citizens. So that is something that we'll talk about today at lunch. We've had free speech for a very, very long time in the United Kingdom, and it will last for a very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Well, no, I mean, certainly we wouldn't want to reach across U.S. citizens, and we don't, and that's absolutely right. But in relation to free speech in the UK, I'm very proud of our history there. We've had free speech for a very, very long time here, so we're very proud of that. We're not censoring anyone. Lucy Connolly, how does it make you feel watching that, watching that man lie? He's just a plonker. You know, like, very, proud free speech for our very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah, we've got free speech in the UK as long as it aligns with Labour's politics. and Labour's values. If you don't align with them, then it's, you know, curtains for you. And what would you say to Stama? Like, speak to him directly because you are the walking, talking example of the fact that we do not have free speech
Starting point is 00:45:03 because I've spoken to so many experts over the past year in regards to this, Lucy. Your post did not incite violence. The key words were, for all I care. And I mean, of course you are regretful of that post for a whole load of reasons. But the point is, you were imprisoned for a post that included no specific threat or incitement to violence against anyone. So when Stama says that we have free speech and it's something to be proud of, please respond to him directly. I would say to him, well, please tell me why that I was put behind bars.
Starting point is 00:45:46 then for 12.4 months and a sentence of 31, you know, it is quite clear that my tweet, albeit not very nice, was hyperbole. It did say, for all I care. You know, did your mother near a teacher as a child? My mum used to say to us, well, I don't care what such and such does. If they told you to run in front of a bus, would you? No, so don't do that then. You know, that was her rhetoric all the time. I don't care what everyone else does. You don't do that. that's not what we do and you know I there was no incitement to that somebody taking a tweet down after they've had a you know a moment of rage it's quite clearly if I was inciting anybody to do anything I wouldn't have I wouldn't have took that tweet down would I have to just left it there
Starting point is 00:46:33 but I understood that you know can't say things like that not nice thing to say really not clever take it down and on top of that there was obviously my tweet what other people don't understand is the tweet that I made was on the actual afternoon, early evening, of the Southport murders, taken down the same day. There was no riots. There was no violence until a good week later. I think the first one was the Southport one. So, and as soon as they started kicking off, throwing bricks at the police, you know, rioting in the streets, I tweeted, please stop this. This is not what we want. We do not want civil unrest on our streets. You're playing into the government's hands here, please stop, obviously, that tweet was shown to the judge,
Starting point is 00:47:19 that tweet was shown to the CPS by, you know, by my lawyers, but that didn't matter. So you only, you, apparently, I've only got influence when I'm telling stuff, people to do awful things, not when I'm asking them, you know, to behave themselves. I've either got influence and I'm inciting things or I don't. You can't have it both ways, can you? So I had, you know, enough influence in incitement, you know, when I made a horrible tweet, but any positive tweets that I've made after and before were ignored. Well, it was, you know, I was in court that day for your appeal hearing. And it was just astonishing to me that the judge couldn't seem to properly understand the timeline.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Because as you pointed out, sorry, you come in. things that they don't understand, Dan. It's just they don't, they don't, it doesn't fit their narrative. So they change, they change the facts to suit themselves. Correct. Correct. And the mainstream media have never tried to understand, you know, because, because you were their enemy. But unfortunately, that has backfired on them because we know all of the other people who the mainstream media either support or ignore. Now, I think what happened over Southport, and it was a whole load of things. You know, it was the horror of that case. It was the political punishment. And let's be honest, more than punishment, the political persecution of people
Starting point is 00:48:49 like you. But also that day, Lucy, do you remember when he turned up and he was there for a matter of seconds? And there was, yeah, and he was heckled. But there were, but the people heckling him were not the far right thugs as he tried to make out. And as to this day, he still tries to make out. Yes. Yes. And some people, by the way, whose friends had children stabbed in that dance class, you know, they were locals and he walked away. And I honestly believe that was the beginning of the end for Stama. You look at him now, Lucy. Yeah, he's still here. Well, yes, he is, but he is the walking dead. I mean, he is the most unpopular prime minister of all time since records began. So this is like almost, it's almost impossible for this to go on. But what we're seeing
Starting point is 00:49:48 on the left of politics, and I'm fascinated for your view of this, is a galvanisation around the extreme. So we've just seen Mamdani elected as the first Muslim mayor of New York. You know, he's going to destroy New York in the same way that Sadiq Khan has destroyed London. But we're also seeing the tit whisperer, you know, this extremist Zach Polanski overtaking labour in the polls here. Well, that's how desperate
Starting point is 00:50:19 things are, isn't it? Anything but liber. That's, you know, I always say anything but Chardonnay, but I'll change it to anything but Labour, I think. Yeah. And so what's going to happen, though, is I believe, a further creep to the left. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:37 mean? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not convinced. It was interesting seeing what happened at the Carfley by-election, though, wasn't it, in Wales? Because there is this ability, you see, that's maybe what the left do better, Lucy, than us, right? However you choose to define us. I mean, lots of people, including the likes of Ben Habib, say left, right, labels are meaningless now. Reform UK say the same thing too. Very often it's against sort of common sense versus woke madness or patriots and nationalists versus those who want no borders and a globalist and don't believe in protecting our country at all. But however you look at it, Lucy, the left feel like they are much more strategic in terms of being able to unite. And I did want to ask you about what has
Starting point is 00:51:28 happened on the right of British politics because of course what we have seen, and I know we've spoken about this privately and I had a discussion with you on substack about this the other day. You know, we unfortunately have split on the right. And I do blame reform quite a lot for this because of course they thrust out Rupert Lowe brutally. They thrust out Ben Hibbebe brutally. They've attacked Tommy Robinson brutally. And it's like, they're not your enemies. Do you know what I mean? Stam is your enemy. Mood is your enemy. The tit whisperer Zelansky is your enemy. The tit whisperer Zelansky is your enemy. Corbin and Sultana who want to bring Islamism to the UK are your enemies. Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib and Tommy Robinson are not your enemies. So I just wonder what
Starting point is 00:52:14 your view on this is. Do you think there's any way that the right can unite or is it too late for that? I mean, I would love to think so, but I don't know. I think there's too much water and under the bridge now between the likes of Rupert and Reform and Ben and Nigel. And it's such a shame because, you know, I always speak as I find. And all three of them, Rupert, Nigel and Ben have had my back throughout this whole thing. They've all, you know, publicly said how, you know, this is lunacy and I shouldn't be in prison. And especially, you know, and I do love Ruper. you know, I think everybody on the right has a real soft spot for Rupert
Starting point is 00:52:59 because I just think he dares to say what many of us are too scared to say and I've got a lot of respect for him and you have to remember with Rupert as well he doesn't need to do that job. He's a multi-multimillionaire. He doesn't need to be a politician. He gives away his wages every month. So I think you have to remember about Rupert whether you agree with what he says or what you don't, if you disagree, he's he, what whatever he's doing, he does it because he believes, he really believes it's the right thing to do. And there's no kind of gain for him individually. He doesn't want to be Prime Minister. He doesn't, you know, he's not bothered. I genuinely believe that he speaks for the
Starting point is 00:53:42 people on, you know, for the good of the people. And he doesn't have much of an ulterior motive. And I think it's such a shame that they've all fallen out because imagine if they're all so good. They all have their own individual strengths. You know, Ben has his, Rieper has his, Nigel has his. Imagine if they just came together, all three of them. And, you know, and I'm just a bit worried that what's going to happen is some people that maybe would have voted for reform are now going to move over, you know, to Ben Habee's party advance. I mean, we've seen that happening already. And in order for anybody to take out Labour next time, they need a lot of votes. So splitting that vote isn't helpful, isn't it? You know, we need
Starting point is 00:54:27 one party getting the majority of votes, not people that are more, you know, right, you know, leaning, some voting for reform, some voting for advance, some voting for this, that and the other. Whereas if they were all together, working together, those votes would all go into one pot. So I think it's dangerous territory for reform in the sense of I don't want them to lose votes because of this and I'd love them to all come together and work together but um you know and Rupert had Sarah's back and so did Ben the other day you know they weren't spiteful about her 100% and that's the thing they felt for her and like we all did you know we thought you know that poor woman's been absolutely attacked for and for what because her opinion doesn't align
Starting point is 00:55:14 with yours and you know Rupert and Ben both came out and we're really grown up about it for politicians and said, you know, keep going, Sarah, we're behind you. And, you know, that was really nice to see because I think there's too much backstabbing in politics, you know, grow up. And, you know, I think Kemi's got the right idea with some of that. You know, she just says, well, you know, I'm leaving the boys to it type thing. And I think she's got the right idea, really. But, oh, yeah, I'd love to see them all come together. But I just, I just really don't see that happening. And Lucy, you are going to be with Rupert in Westminster on Monday. Yeah, the 17th. So talk me through that. What's happening there? So yeah, he put forward a motion.
Starting point is 00:56:04 He did a petition and didn't he and put forward a motion that we shouldn't be using a prison sentence to punish anybody who makes social media posts. It's a complete waste of everybody's time money and you know we have free speech etc so yeah he's he's taking that to debate whether we should be using um the prison system a prison sentence to punish anybody making social media posts good well i will cover that on monday very very excited about it i think rupert low does a really great job actually and i love what he's done with restore britain which is of course his cross party movement, which is one thing that's nice about it too. One thing that hasn't changed, the loony lefties and their Lucy Connolly obsession.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Indeed, over the past few months, I would argue it's got worse. So a lot of this was sparked by the fact that on release from prison, I asked you directly, Lucy, and we'll look at this shortly, but I ask you directly about NarendiCorps and Femi Olivoli and the likes of those extremists, and they are extremists, who had just spent day after day, week after week, month after month, trolling you. Now, I actually think it's a positive thing for you in a way, but were you surprised by the ferocity of their reaction to you being released? They want to shut you down.
Starting point is 00:57:40 They want to silence you. I think they view you as a threat. I mean, does this face look like it loses sleep over, over them? Absolutely not. I'm not on Twitter now, so I don't see what they put. Occasionally somebody will tell me, have you seen what Noreen does, you know, I've no interest. I mean, I find it quite bizarre. Like, I don't know them, they don't know me.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I only know of them what I see on social media and vice versa. It's a bit of an unhealthy obsession, really, isn't it? You know, why are you so interested in somebody you've never met, you don't know? You're probably never going to meet, I hope. It's a bit weird that you're going to use that much energy hating on somebody that you don't even know. And let's be real here. Yes, I shouldn't have written what I wrote. But if you are more bothered about an offensive tweet that I or anybody made
Starting point is 00:58:37 than the death of those children and the situation that our country finds itself, in now, there's seriously something wrong with you. Like, you're not all there in the head. Well, I think you've just pointed out the issue. I think you've just pointed out the issue. And of course, what is ironic is that both of them are hate-filled race baiters who post far, far worse things online than you ever did. But look, what riled them is that in your first interview,
Starting point is 00:59:07 after leaving prison, which is, of course, here on outspoken, you called them both out. watch. And then Narenda Kaur has criticized me, Lucy, for this interview. She has said, anyone who publicly supports and uses journalistic media to advocate burning women and children alive in their beds should be stripped of any entitlement to broadcast, hang your head in shame, Dan. Oh, she's lovely, isn't she? I mean, can we just be clear?
Starting point is 00:59:46 You never advocated burning women and children are like in the leaves. Again, she's twisted the narrative to suit her own agenda. It's, you know, it's Narinda, isn't it? She's the biggest race beta on social media, has been for a long time. If she was a white person, fact, she would have gone to prison a long time ago, and I don't care what anybody says she would. She says some vile things. If you don't agree with her, she comes for you.
Starting point is 01:00:11 She then responded, Lucy, saying this. It's a nice little Saturday evening video. I've had some of the most worst racial abuse I've had. But actually, I say the worst, it's all always there. But a lot of it, of course, all social media platforms from Lucy Colony fans, racist. And this video is just to say, you're not going to silence me. You're not going to scare me off. you have been reported to the police.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to keep shouted. I'm going to keep talking. I'm going to keep pulling you out. You're never going to stop me. Ever. I'm not going away. I'm going to keep on,
Starting point is 01:00:57 because I love how much I wind you all up. Oh, it's amazing. It just makes me laugh. And the fact that Lucy Connoe's come out of prison, one day out and she's yabbering on about me, hilarious and you're so wound up about me I love it Lucy your response no she doesn't mind me up I just think I don't want her to shut up I believe in free speech noinda you can say what you like but you know don't for one minute thing that I I care less what she or the likes of her has to
Starting point is 01:01:30 say you know carry on if that's what you want to do that's what you want to do I don't want to shut you down because you know you're entitled to your views but you know You don't have to watch this video. You don't have to watch any videos of mine or Dan's. Or you can scroll past anybody's tweets on Twitter that you don't have to let them offend you. You don't have to make videos about them. Just, you know, you do you and enjoy your life.
Starting point is 01:01:56 She said they're Lucy Connolly fans racist, in other words. So she's doing that whole R word thing, right? Everything is racist. Disagreying with her is racist. Absolutely. show me where she's not a race baiter anything again so instead of just having an adult debate so why can't she and the likes of her say to me do you know what lucy i really don't approve or agree with what you wrote da-di-da-da-da-da why did you write this what can you can you explain to me
Starting point is 01:02:28 where you were coming from da-da-da-da-da why why can you not have a conversation like that you know no they wouldn't do that it's just racist racist racist bigger fascist racist because they can't intelligently debate. They haven't got an answer. You know, they don't like me. That's fine. I don't like them. But you can't please all the people all of the time. She did report our interview to the police though, Lucy. I mean, that was nuts. Yeah, yeah. So presumably you never heard from them. I mean, to me, that crossed a line. That crossed a line. She should be done for wasting police time. Yeah. And I did. 100%. I've said that in the past. She absolutely should because this is why the police have no time to
Starting point is 01:03:07 solve real crimes, seriously? And I spoke to probation because I said, oh, you know, obviously probation knew that I was doing that that video that day with you, that it was all approved. They didn't have an issue with that. And the funny thing is, my probation officer said to me, yeah, we watched your videos with Dan and Alison and we think you put yourself across really, really well. So, you know, she's reporting me to the police and telling me, you know, that I should go back to prison.
Starting point is 01:03:37 probation are telling me that everything they've watched with mine so far, there's no issues with and they think I'm putting myself across really, really well. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, Narinda. Take that, Narinda. Exactly. The other one who I actually think is even worse. Even worse, Lucy, is Femi Olawoli. Watch this. It's not often that the far right makes me literally giddy with joy, but today is one of those days. Calling me a race fater when you tweeted, if that makes me a racist, so be it. I called you a terrorist. I then used the dictionary definition of that word
Starting point is 01:04:13 to explain why you meet that definition. The headlines would read, Femi accuses the Reform Party of supporting terrorists and wins in court. I said, I am giddy with joy. Motherfucker, your tweet said, If that makes me racist, so be it. You then pled guilty to inciting racial hatred.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It's not us that brought race into it. You did, Lucy. See? Have a great week because I know I am. Oh, he's weird, isn't he? Let's see. Really weird, creepy man. I blocked him back in COVID days years and years and years ago because I've no interest in what he says. And I honestly don't look at anything that he posts or tweets. I've known to, I've seen that because you've shown me it, but I hadn't seen it other than that. And I'm not going to get into, you know, some slanderous argument with the likes of Femi.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I mean, you could be there forever. You know. And I just, I've come to the conclusion now that I could give these people a kidney and they still, it still wouldn't be good enough. You know, I've apologised. I've accepted that what I said was wrong. I did my 12-4 months in prison. What do you want? A kidney? And even if I gave one, it wouldn't be enough for them. So I don't care what they say or what they do. They're irrelevant. What's interesting is there is now this push by the left. It's like calling us racists is not enough. So now we're going to start calling each other terrorists. But I don't know if you saw Lucy,
Starting point is 01:05:39 but this other hard leftist, Pablo O'Hanna, has had to issue a groveling apology to Tommy Robinson after his unhinged appearance on GBM News. So just for the people who did miss it, this is what happened on GV News. The day, by the way, the day I should point this out. Well, it is ironic that people like Tommy Robinson are so in favour of stop and search
Starting point is 01:06:02 until it's them that are stopped and searched. Tommy Robinson is a homegrown terrorist. He is racist, he is violent, he is an extreme right-wing thug. Sorry, Pablo, can I just put you in a... For your own sake, would you like to withdraw those comments about Tommy Robinson being a, quote,
Starting point is 01:06:20 home-grown terrorist? Can I politely suggest you that you might want to do that? Tommy Robinson hates everything about our country. He has no place in our public play. Homegrown terrorists, He has performed and he has delivered speeches that are incredibly divisive. They demonise our communities. They divide our country.
Starting point is 01:06:42 And that is the type. That is not who our country is, what our country is. But he's not a-growing terrorist, though, is he? He may not be a terrorist, but he delivers and he encourages the type of division that this country does not stand for. I'm talking of division, I don't know about it, but I'm sorry. It may be in this case that the judge decided that he was stopped because of his politics, that may be the case. Okay. But there is no doubt that his behaviour has divined by now.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Someone on the left who comes straight out the trap and says, Tommy Robinson is a homegrown terrorist, then has to backtrack on it and then talks about people like Tommy Robinson's sewing division. I think it's remarkable. And actually, many on the so-called left bear huge responsibility for the problem of censorship and not allowing people to talk about things like rape gangs and borders without calling them racist. But Lucy, it's interesting because they're all using the same playbook, can't they? It was just like Femi Oluwally with you. It's terrorist.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It's far right. It's racist. But this is why I've always said, Lucy, I think you'd have a legal case against Femi Olawli for calling you a terrorist. And Pablo O'Hanna has now had to issue a groveling apology to Tommy Robinson, who said, look, I'm consulting lawyers and I'm going to go for you on this because, of course, I don't blame him. Yeah. I mean, as you know, Ray and I watched, were watching at that point.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And we just looked at each other across the book. We were just like, you know when you're doing that laughing thing because you can't quite believe what somebody's just saying? And you're just like, and then Patrick Christie cracked me up even more because he was saying, you sure you don't want to retract that? You know, as if to say that you have just put. your foot right in it, you know, because everybody's sitting there going, there's a libel case right there. You know, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Tommy Robinson
Starting point is 01:08:37 has ever been or ever would be involved in any form of terrorism. In fact, he's just been cleared by the courts of such. So to come out and say, to say that, it's just, but remember, they're the nice ones. I know. But that was the irony, wasn't it? It's like, are you insane? Are you actually insane because you're going on national TV and saying that on the day that a judge has just completely destroyed the state and the police's case against Tommy Robinson being terrorist nuts. But look, just some food for thought for you there because, you know, it would be lovely to see Femiola Wally be forced into one of them. I know, I know, I know. They're not worth it. They're not worth it. They actually are not worth it. And the best thing we can do
Starting point is 01:09:22 is just continue to expose their lunacy and their lies. You just have to laugh. And why they're attacking me, they're not attacking somebody else, are they? Indeed. But look, Lucy Connolly, so brilliant. I'm so excited to have you now as a part of Outspoken.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I'm so pleased to be here. Till you join the superstar panel and best of luck for the big debate in Westminster on Monday. It'll be an interesting debate, won't it? And more interestingly, who turns up. Let's see how many of them turn up. That'll be an interesting one as well. Indeed. It really will. So I cannot wait. We will keep across that and cannot wait to have you on the superstar panel. Lucy Connolly, they tried to silence her and they failed. And I'm very, very delighted to have her as part of our outspoken family. Now, of course, because of the special edition of Outspoken Today, there is no Greatest Britain or Union Jackass.
Starting point is 01:10:22 announced the worst Britain in the world this week on yesterday's show. But you can, of course, come and join the party. Again, we will be launching a brand new Greatest Britain Union Jackass on Monday. But don't worry, we are moving across to the substack space now to continue with the Royal Uncancled After Show. YouTube sensation, according to Taz, joining me for all the week's Royal News. So at this stage, we move off YouTube and continue the conversation in the Uncancored Aftershow. All you have to do to watch is sign up at www. outspoken.com. Thank you so much for your company this week. We will be back live with you on Monday. 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hit subscribe if you're watching on YouTube. Please do subscribe to our podcast, which is now
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