Dan Wootton Outspoken - MANCHESTER AIRPORT ATTACKERS GET OFF AFTER ISLAMIST JUSTICE IN TWO TIER UK + HENRY NOWAK PROTESTS

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Another no justice outrage as Two Tier Islamist Britain strikes once again, with the Manchester Airport attack brothers GETTING OFF, despite their frenzied attack on police officer...s being captured on camera. The CPS there is no public interest in a re-trial which means Muhammad Amaad is now a free man. So let’s just be honest about this: Muslim criminals now get off in the Disunited Kingdom while innocent white boys are killed. Meanwhile, Laurence Fox has released shocking new footage of Henry Nowak’s murderer with a Sikh ceremonial knife that killed the Essex teenager, who cops had handcuffed as he lay dying over false racism claims, as the first street protests begin against this national scandal being ignored by the MSM and elite class. Robert Jenrick says the silence around Nowak’s murder is evidence of the growing scourge of anti-white racism… But rather than talking about this genuine scandal, LBC subhuman James O’Brien and the increasingly deranged Carol Vorderman are attempting to destroy Reform UK’s Makerfield by-election candidate, the plumber Rob Kenyon, for making a joke. But Mike Graham is coming for me over his elitist attack on Restore Britain’s candidate Rebecca Shepherd as the war between Rupert Lowe’s party and Reform UK grows ever more nasty by the day. Dan will respond in the Digest and then he's joined by the Superstar Panel: The New Culture Forum’s Philip Kiszely and, making his Outspoken debut, Frank Wright, who went viral internationally for this interview supporting Restore Britain on the ground in Makerfield. PLUS: Scheming Sturgeon, who Dan believes should be in prison herself, is bundled into hide in a KITCHEN rather than face perfectly legitimate questions from Sly News over her husband’s jailing. AND: Helen Mirren is abused on a London street by pro-Palestine thugs, as John Cleese finally reveals why he is prepared to speak out against woke madness in a way few other celebs will do. THEN IN THE ROYAL UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Prince Harry is dogged by new torture allegations as Meghan Markle’s cash crisis grows. We’ll have all the latest with royal YouTube sensation P-Dina. To watch in full, please subscribe at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Another no justice outrage as two-tier Islamist Britain strikes once again with the Manchester Airport attack brothers, despite their frenzied attack on police officers being captured on camera getting off. The CPS says there is no public interest in a. retrial, which means Muhammad Ahmad is now a free man. In our democracy, we have a right to expect that those in uniform act according to the law and any force used must be reasonable, legitimate and proportionate. Since the two brothers were charged in 2024, they have been subjected to an orgy of race hate. Oh, an orgy of race hate.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Okay, so it's the brothers who beat up the police officers on campus on campus. who we should feel sorry for. I'm just going to be honest about this, okay? Today, Muslim criminals now get off in the disunited kingdom, while innocent white boys are killed. And today, Lawrence Fox has really shocking new footage of Henry Novak's murderer
Starting point is 00:01:47 with a Sikh ceremonial knife that killed the Essex teenager who cops handcuffed as he lay dying over false racism claims. This is as the first street protest begin against the national scandal being ignored by the MSM and elite class. There was nothing the officers could have been done to save Henry's life. And the police need to be charged with assisting murder.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Robert Jenrick says the silence around Novak's murder is evidence of the growing slurgy anti-white racism where the colour of your skin are we living in a country where the colour of your skin dictates to an extent the way in which you're treated before the law and anti-white racism is not take on seriously whilst racism against ethnic minority communities is prioritised and do you think we're living in that country? I do see mounting evidence of that But rather than talking about this genuine scandal, LBC subhuman James O'Brien and the increasingly deranged sex mad Granny Carol Vorderman are attempting to destroy Reform UK's makerfield by-election candidate
Starting point is 00:03:14 the plumber Rob Kenyon for making a joke. You've been dragged into this deeply unpleasant situation entirely innocently, so unpleasant in fact that I'm not sure I can repeat. It's important that people know. I want to smell and lick Carav Orderman's eight-letter word beginning with A. I'm not upset by it.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I am angered by it. But the ride is totally divided over Makerfield too with Mike Graham. Coming for me over his elitist attack on Restore Britain's candidate Rebecca Shepard. This is part of the war really between Rupert Lowe and Nigel Farage, getting ever more nasty by.
Starting point is 00:03:59 the day. So it's nothing to do with being elitist. It's nothing to do with being in any way anti-restore. It's about, it's called journalism, Dan. It's called basically being neutral, right? Dan claims he's neutral, but he's not neutral. On this one, you're completely and utterly wrong and completely and utterly deluded. Well, I've got a lot to say about that. I will respond in my digest next. Then we're joined by the superstar panel. the New Culture Forum's brilliant Philip Casali, and making his outspoken debut, Frank Wright, who went viral internationally this week
Starting point is 00:04:38 for this interview supporting Restore Britain on the ground and Makerfield. Now, I'd rather live in a nation and not a market, not a borderless international supermarket browsed by mutually hostile strangers, not something that reduces us all to bargain hunters. We need to save the nation, and I think that Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain is the only credible vehicle to do that.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Also coming up on the show today, scheming sturgeon, who I believe should be in prison herself, is bundled into a kitchen to hide because she doesn't want to face perfectly legitimate questions from sly news over her husband's Jailene. And Helen Mirren, abused on a London street by pro-Palestine thugs, as John Cleese finally reveals why he is prepared to speak out against woke madness in a way few other celebs will do.
Starting point is 00:05:28 in the Royal Uncanceled After Show over on Substack Prince Harry Dogg by new torture allegations. This is over the African Parks scandal. It's a big one. We're going to have all of the latest with Royal YouTube Sensation P Diner. It's a Friday too, which means we are also revealing the worst Britain in the world this week. Nearly 50,000 votes already. We might even get to 50,000 by the end of the show if you head to the post tab on YouTube. It's when we put your union jackass nominees from head to head, ahead to head from across the week on. Tuesday, it was scheming sturgeon this week on Wednesday, Tony Blair, and on Thursday, Judge Nicholas Rowland, get voting, keep your comments coming in. I will have some of the best for you
Starting point is 00:06:08 at the end of the show today. Oh, and by the way, in the live chat on YouTube, a very special question today. If you could, who would you vote for in Maker Field? Restore Britain, Reform UK, Labor, or the Conservatives, get voting. I'm fascinated by this one. I'll bring you the results later. But now let's go. If the political establishment, elite-classed and corrupt judiciary want to test the tolerance of patriotic and peaceful Brits with two-tier justice, then let me make a very clear warning on the record today. You scumbags are playing with a fire that you possibly fail to comprehend. Because breaking today, there will be no retrial Of the case involving the brothers Muhammad Fahir Amaz and Muhammad Ahmad, who were accused of assaulting PC Zachary Mazden at Manchester Airport in July 24, a crime, by the way, that the entire world watched in horror on CCTV video, which was only released to stop an Islamist race war.
Starting point is 00:07:20 The violent Muslim bros were charged with using a high level of violence against a police constable. But the jury were unable to reach a verdict, resulting in a retrial earlier this month, where once again the jury could not reach a verdict after 20 hours of deliberation. And what we have, of course, not been told is how many other Muslim men were on that jury. So today, the British Deep State simply gave up. The Crown Prosecution Service confirming in a statement that it is not in the public interest to seek an trial. Immediately after that shameful farce was announced, the brother's lawyer. A Mayor Anwar spoke outside Liverpool Crown Court to gaslight the nation once again by suggesting that any hatred towards the brothers was because they are Muslim, rather than because we saw them with our own eyes beating up police officers.
Starting point is 00:08:21 In our democracy, we have a right to expect that those in uniform act according to the law and any force used must be reasonable, legitimate and proportionate. Since the two brothers were charged in 2024, they have been subjected to an orgy of race hate. Social media posts viewed by millions created a highly prejudicial atmosphere in which a lynch-mob mentality that was racist, anti-Muslim, called for deportation, riots, the death penalty and the hanging of the two brothers if they were acquitted. Even their sister and their new ones, were threatened. This is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:09:00 This is what we're putting up with. This is the consequence of the Islamist takeover. Guilty Muslims are going to keep getting off and then we are going to be gaslit over so-called Islamophobia, over so-called racism. When all we actually want is the end to two-tier justice. It's the end to an environment
Starting point is 00:09:23 where guilty Muslims do not go to prison. Now next to the lawyer there was the elder of the two brothers, Muhammad Ahmad. He has now been deemed a free man. Of course, his younger brother, Muhammad Fahir Amaz, will face sentences for being found guilty on three separate charges related to the incident despite being cleared today. He remains remanded in custody. But just remember, this case has always been about Islamist politics,
Starting point is 00:09:48 not about what happened at Manchester Airport. When the incident occurred two years ago, Ahmed Yakub. The Birmingham Islamist lawyer was the first to jump to the brother's defence. With Ahmad and Faiyah here, they were released not long ago from a Chiedel police station. They then had to make their own way to the hospital. But in reality, because they've had head injuries, it was the police duty to take them to a hospital. But nevertheless, they made their own way.
Starting point is 00:10:27 now of documented their injuries and we are headed to Ratchdale Police Station to make a formal complaint of assault and wounding against the police officers. Their injuries! Their injuries! They beat up police officers! Now, I actually challenged Youkube directly about his defense of the brothers on outspoken, something the MSN refuses to do. You also represented those young men who were involved in the Manchester airport incident and you claimed that the incident was an attempted assassination on those young men. Do you take that back? No, of course I do not take that back.
Starting point is 00:11:13 The police at that time, the way they acted at the first instance, what I saw, I never take anything back then. That is not me. So let's just remember for one second when it comes to this case, if we hadn't had seen the release of the CCTV footage, they would have been an Islamist race war. They would have been an Islamist race war because what people were thinking was going to happen
Starting point is 00:11:35 was that the Islamists would be out on the street demanding justice for those two brothers who had apparently been injured. When indeed, they were the ones that had injured the police officers, very badly. And the disgraceful verdict and failure of our no-justice system when it comes to the Manchester airport attack is justified, just opposed very awkwardly for the authorities with the murder of the young man that we're seeing now, Henry Novak, who was cuffed by police whilst bleeding to death. Bickram Digua was found guilty of murder in a court of law yesterday for stabbing the 18-year-old
Starting point is 00:12:19 Essex lad who had a bright future ahead of him. Yet in his last moments, on earth, he was treated like a racist by the people who were meant to protect him from a knife-wielding craton who was lying. Now, the police did come out and apologise, but for me, it's not anywhere near good enough. Watch. Henry's life couldn't be saved that night, and I'm sorry that he was handcuffed and arrested in the moments
Starting point is 00:12:47 before he lost consciousness. When his killer made that call to police, and he called the police, not the ambulance service, he lied on that call. He lied when police attended the scene. He continued to lie as Henry's condition deteriorated. It is clear and it is absolutely tragic that it took them three minutes
Starting point is 00:13:05 before they started to administer first aid. It is important, though, to say the pathologist has been clear there's nothing officers could have done which would have saved Henry's life. But like a lot of us, Clay Davis wasn't content with that explanation. He wrote directly to the police,
Starting point is 00:13:21 challenging them on X. Why did the officers immediately placed him in handcuffs. There was no evidence of any racism against the murderer because there was never any racism committed by Henry. So why did they place him in handcuffs? You can tell us that nothing would have saved him, but it does not change the fact that their first response was to arrest him. When they could have listened to him and driven him straight to hospital, those extra minutes could have made a difference. Those officers may not have delivered the killer blow, but they certainly assisted in the death of the poor guy. Those officers should be charged with manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Hampshire police responded by saying, Our officers were misled at the scene, including denial of weapon use. They quickly switched to life-saving aid within minutes, but as laid out in our statement, the medical evidence shows that the injuries were not survivable. A very sad case, our thoughts are with his family. But that prompted anti-Islam activist Kelly J. Keen to reply simply, we didn't check for injuries because some brown bloke said he did a racism, so he handcuffed the 18-year-old and let him bleed to death.
Starting point is 00:14:24 He would have died anyway. So, dot, dot, dot. And given the elite class are completely ignoring this outrage. Patriots are now out on the streets. No justice. No justice. No justice.
Starting point is 00:14:44 No justice. No justice. No justice. No justice. Shame on you. Shame on you. At that protest was UKIP leader Nick Tenconi, who had this to say in front of the riled up crowd. I wrote this speech last night. I didn't know when the jury were returning. We know what we know now. Next up, we need to know what Hampshire Constabory have to say in their inevitable apology.
Starting point is 00:15:16 DCC Robert France gave an interview earlier and I quote, Igwa lied on the call. He didn't call for an ambulance. He called to make a complaint of racial harassment. It is absolutely tragic that it took the officers responding three minutes to deliver first aid. He goes on to say, but it is important to note that the pathologist has been clear. There was nothing the officers could do or what could have been done to save Henry's life. Also speaking at that protest was Sarah White of Advance UK. Members of the public, we should all be deeply concerned about the direction this country is headed.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Justice must apply equally to everybody or it means nothing at all. So just because we're white doesn't mean that we should be discriminated against. Biglaw needs life and all that are all that are. waits him in prison. He better hope to get put on a paedophile ring. And the police need to be charged with assisting murder. Tommy Robinson has echoed that anger watch. There has to be an investigation
Starting point is 00:16:51 because there is institutional racism against whites happening across the UK by every police force, every government, every council. It's diversity. It's killing us. Literally, it's killed Henry. It killed him. They didn't. As soon as the accusation of,
Starting point is 00:17:03 racism come out, they didn't give a shit if he'd been stabbed. He's getting handcuffed. He's the, he's the criminal. And straight away, the brown person is the victim because there's an accusation of racism. When in reality, there was no racism. There was just a savage, brutal murder in what was probably a racist murder against a white victim. That's what's happened. But our political establishment remains largely silent with Calvin McKinsey raging not a damned word from Stama, Streating or Burnham about the white lad handcuffed while dying because they believed the seat knife men who accused him of racism. Was he the wrong colour? Had he been black or brown, Stama would be outside the court taking the knee. And I really appreciated this. Three English lives lost.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Not a word from Kia Stama or this Labour Party, not a single word. Alongside pictures of the wonderful Rianan White murdered by a refugee, Wayne Broadhurst murdered by a refugee. and Henry Novak murdered by a child of a refugee. There is at least one prominent political figure who is speaking out. Reform UK's Robert Jenrick, who declared that we are now living in an anti-white country. Were the police trained, indoctrinated in such a way that they prioritised this accusation of racism
Starting point is 00:18:29 over being objective and loatronated? looking to save the life of this young man who had been stabbed multiple times. I mean, he was dying before them, and it does raise this broader issue of two-tier policing. Are we living in a country where the colour of your skin dictates, to an extent, the way in which you're treated before the law, and anti-white racism is not take on seriously, whilst racism against ethnic minority communities is prioritised.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And do you think we're living in that country? I do see mounting evidence of that, yes. And I simply want us to live in a country where everyone is treated equally. He went on to say that heads should roll. Watch. Heads should roll for this. It is a national scandal. And I do question, Nick, why is it that so few people have spoken about this thus far? If you compare it to say George Floyd, where you had the Prime Minister taking the knee, there's an astonishing silence on this issue.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Only myself and the local member of parliament have raised this in Parliament. Nothing from the Prime Minister, nothing from the Home Secretary. It does raise the question, at least, do many of our politicians run away when there is a racial element to a crime? This wasn't racially aggravated,
Starting point is 00:19:49 but did the police act differently because of the racial element? And is that why so many of our politicians have refused to talk about it thus far? It raises questions, indeed, especially about our anti-British PM, Slippery Stama, who seems to prioritize Islam over our national identity. Lawrence Fox called him out over his silence on Henry Novak,
Starting point is 00:20:08 simply saying, Henry Novak, you creditorious prick. Fox then revealed some deeply disturbing exclusive footage, explaining I was sent this footage of the scumbag murderer some time ago. I didn't share it because I knew the police would be looking for any reason to derail his trial. Well, he's been found guilty, and they have apologized. This was entirely avoidable, nasty little murderous coward. And here is Henry Novak's vile murderer in action. Watch. Yet Britain's race, not nice.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Not nice. Not nice. Not churno, wise. Yet Britain's race-bater in chief Narenda Kor has already decided to turn the tables, saying that provoking racism against Sikhs is now the real issue. Stick with her here. Not. To the Sikhs who spent years standing with people attacking Muslims,
Starting point is 00:21:38 because you thought that'd never come for you. the we don't dislike you only Muslim Sikhs our all right brigade. Congratulations. You've just discovered what Muslims were trying to tell you all along. You were never accepted. You were useful idiots to mask their racism. One tragic and terrific incident and the mask slipped. The only protection minorities have is each other. Anyone who asked you to help target another minority isn't your friend. Tokens get spent. But as Leo cursed, the comedian responded, what's racist today? Today, being upset that a Sikh man killed a white man assisted by the police because the murderer said the victim was racist is racist. And actually, if Narenda Kaur thinks it's racist to ban ceremonial seek swords in this country,
Starting point is 00:22:24 then go right ahead because they're gone. They've got to be gone. Then we get to this other devastating scoop, exposing two-tier policing. From my friend, the Daily Telegraphs, Alison Pearson, who has revealed, in the past few hours that the police sacked a hate crime advisor who warned that the force favoured Muslims over Jews. The Bradford panel chairman was accused of inflammatory comments after speaking out over Islamists' attack on a synagogue. So we are cooked. We are cooked. And the two parties on the right who patriots think could help lift the country out of this two-tier hellhole are now clearly Reform UK and Restore Britain. Yet because the stakes are so well
Starting point is 00:23:16 and truly high, the battle on the ground between Rupert Lowe's insurgent force and the already established Reform UK is turning goddamn ugly as a result, with Farage henchmen and women making more false claims by the day. Now the latest was this lie that a Restore Britain branch meeting turned into an active police investigation with claims the party is dangerous for women. Watch. I did my best to try and de-escalate a situation tonight. And I was met with antagonism and abuse and assault and actual escalation of aggression by people who had no right to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:07 If I had gone live tonight and actually projected everything that happened with the police, everything tonight. I probably made a few grand tonight. I chose not to do it. There were reformed people there tonight that I know and love. And we're all sitting there going, what the hell? I am a witness to what happened tonight. And there were assaults. That is why I can't talk about exactly what happened. But other people may share things about what happened tonight and that's up to them. I won't do that. I believe in the law. Only problem is, it's a bullshit smear.
Starting point is 00:24:58 That woman, Liz Williams, appears to actually be a Reform UK counsellor. And as Alla Minnehain pointed out, non-restore members are not even allowed at Restore Branch Meetings. Here's the real Liz Williams. Hello, my name's Liz Williams. I'm the reform candidate for the Littertons. Okay, so it was a smear. And we do know that at the moment these smears are being thrown in all directions as a result of the fact that Reform UK are panicked that Restore Britain might take victory away from them
Starting point is 00:25:35 in Makerfield, in this critical Makerfield by-election. They're also worried about the fact, reform, that restores candidate, Rebecca Shepard, is fast gaining popularity on the ground with Makerfield voters. Hi, I'm Rebecca and I'm standing for Restore Britain in the by-election for Makerfield. I've lived in the Wiggin area for 22 years, and I've run a small business ever since. I love the people of Wiggin. They're amazing. And I get to see them a lot, obviously, in my business, mainly with families coming to my yard for riding lessons and things like that.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And I've built a little community of my own, so I love the people. people are Wiggin. We talk about politics all the time, me and my friend, and I sat there one day and I thought, if I listen to myself moaning about this country one more time and not do something about it, so that's why I just decided to go for it, because everyone should get on board with politics, I think, because it matters. You know, our lives depend on it, and just to sit at home and, you know, just moan about everything and not actually do anything about it, was just not on the radar for me. So that's why I decided to get involved. I know the challenges that everyone faces today in this current climate and I've decided I want to do something about it now.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It's helping with the local community and bringing the experiences that I've had, trying to run a small business in this economy. Now, one of Rebecca's top priorities that I'm told is really resonating with people in Maker Field is on women's safety. One of my biggest priorities will be women's safety everywhere, but especially feeling safe to walk around their own towns. I was trying to get to my local accountant. There was a group of probably seven.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I can only assume to be migrants who were speaking in different languages and made me feel very uncomfortable. I had no choice but to walk through the middle of them. And they were very clearly and obviously saying things about me in a different language, looking at me, laughing. It just doesn't make women feel safe nowadays
Starting point is 00:27:31 because I've experienced it myself. So other women must be feeling the same way. And Rebecca is clearly positioning herself as an authentic alternative to your typical Westminster Wax. Thank you career politicians. People should vote for Restore Britain if they really want a change and not more of the same. I'm not a career politician.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I'm just a normal person who genuinely cares. I want to give 100% of my time to my community, whereas other people that they may want to just do it part-time. I've freed up all of my time for my community. I'll get behind them and I would be a very regular face around the town of Makerfield. If you're on the fence, then you need to pick restore. otherwise you're just voting for more of the same or not voting at all, which in this climate would be mad. You need to get on board.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And what's worrying reform is that the response on the ground is great. Great people, a great response, according to Restore Britain in Maker Field. High profile figures have also joined this battle like Andrew Bridgen. Reform are also in meltdown. They've seen the challenge that Restore Britain are posing against them in the Makerfield by-election. I'm taking a team from Northwest Leicestershire up to Makerfield on Sunday morning to go and help again. But it's not just Brits that want to see Restore succeed, but also from across the pond with German exile in America, Naomi Sebert, going viral for her passionate explanation
Starting point is 00:29:16 as to why it's low and not for Raj. That is the answer for her. Only Rupert Lowe's Restore Party can save Britain. But why do I care? I am a German asylum seeker in the United States of America, and I get absolutely nothing out of Restore's potential future victory. However, I do genuinely care about the success of the British people. They are very dear to my heart, and I actually grew up admiring the British culture. I learned English by reading British literature such as Shakespeare, and I do think that they are our greatest and most crucial ally in Europe, and by that I'm talking both from a German and an American perspective. Right now there is a very obvious conflict of power between the Reform Party under Nigel Farage and Restorer under Rupert Lowe.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And some may argue that we should just be satisfied with the undeniable success in the polls of reform. And we may even be splitting the vote by supporting Restore instead and thus contribute to the success of the Labour Party, the left-wing party, right? So why would I want to sabotage the currently winning right-wing party? And clearly, I don't have any stakes in the game, so maybe that's just very unethical of me. But hear me out. Because this is exactly the phenomenon that I can see is tearing down my homeland Germany right now. The greatest mistake that we can make is that we endorse a pretentiously conservative party that thrives on political appeasement and will betray its election promises. There is a reason that Brexit failed to deliver the
Starting point is 00:30:43 promises that were made to the British people. And don't forget that Brexit was initiated and then apparently abandoned by no other than Nigel Farage. Reform is the party that you vote for if you have given up hope that Britain can possibly regain its sovereignty. Reform is the compromise. I don't do compromise at the cost of truth. And of course, there are two sides to this. And you know, I put both sides on this show. But the problem is what I'm finding is that the MSM reform shills can only try and stop restores momentum by spreading lies and by going for rabbit attacks.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Like Carol Malone, who should know better, who dishonestly went on the Daily Express podcast, and tried to once again link restore Britain and its leadership to Steve Laws. What he's not addressing is the fact that one of his big backers, there's a guy called Steve Laws. He cast out on the Holocaust. He cast out whether six million people died or not. Steve Laws wants anyone who is not white to be deported. Now, you would think that Rupert Lowe would immediately say to suspend Steve Laws from the party,
Starting point is 00:31:59 kick him out, get rid of him. This is not a good look for his party. But no, Steve Law, Rupert Lo said, we will not police our membership. It's nuts, isn't it? It's just stupid. So that means his membership can say any hideous, horrible thing. No, it means that Restore Britain's membership has free speech, okay?
Starting point is 00:32:18 But Steve Laws has no formal role in the party, Carol, which you know. Indeed, guess which party Steve Laws did have a formal role in? Reform UK. Did you know that, Carol? Steve himself pointed that out, saying quite funny that Restora getting so much shit for me being a member when the Reform Party literally made me a candidate. But as a result of these growing tensions on the right, I've inevitably found myself in conflict with my friends who are part of that sort of Reform UK MSM bubble. And I don't mind that because I am happy to have the debate. Indeed, in the past few moments, before we came on air, I've just suggested that I host a debate between Connor Tomlinson and Alex Phillips, both
Starting point is 00:33:09 friends of mine, both making claims about restore and reform. That was something suggested by Basil the Great. Alex Phillips has immediately said she's in. Sorry, Connor Tomlinson has immediately said he's in, and I would hope that Alex would do the same. But let's see. And another one of those guys, who's going for me over this is Mike Graham, now on the independent media, of course, and he posted last night, shocked to discover that my friend Dan Wooden has chosen to attack me over the Restore Britain candidate in Makerfield. I will respond on my show tomorrow. You will not want to miss this. Now, I don't think I ever attacked Mike Graham. What I did was make clear that his elitist attack and Emma Wolfe's elitist attack on the Restore Britain candidate, Rebecca Shepard,
Starting point is 00:33:58 low blow, but this was the video that Mike seemed to have a problem with. Now, two people who I usually like and respect a lot, Mike Graham and Emma Wolf, actually use that interview that I have just played you to, I think, be incredibly elitist
Starting point is 00:34:20 and compared Rebecca to Rebecca Vadi and Colleen Rooney. Watch. I mean, you were sorry. Not much needs to be said. I mean, I wouldn't put that out. I was going to say, that speaks for itself, but it really doesn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:34:39 No. She reminds me of sort of Rebecca Bardi-stroke, Colin Rooney, running for office. Yes. I can't do anything now because I'm doing this. Okay, then. I can't tell you about the policy. I read the report, but it's quite in depth. Yeah, it's quite in-depth.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I can't tell you which policy paper I read. It was on Facebook. Right. You know, listen, it's not for me to be disparaging about local MPs, but it just seems to me that that. is not somebody that you would vote for. I mean, were they watching the same interview that I was? And unfortunately, what we're seeing is a reform meltdown.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And as the temperatures have risen to record levels here in the United Kingdom, so has the total fiery displays turning on Restore Britain. And I stand by that. And I did stand by that last night, responding to my... saying this was an elitist attack on Restore Britain's candidate Rebecca Shepard. She's a normal small business owner, but because she's not slick like that awful reformed, Zia Yusuf, you compare her to Rebecca Vadi and Colin Rooney, we need honest, ordinary folk in Parliament to thrust out the elite class once and for all.
Starting point is 00:35:50 So this morning, Mike Graham launched his fight back, watch. So it's nothing to do with being elitist. It's nothing to do with being in any way anti-restore. It's called journalism, Dan. It's called basically being neutral, right? Dan claims he's neutral, but he's not neutral. He hates reform. He loves to restore.
Starting point is 00:36:15 He wants Rupert Lowe to be the next prime minister. He makes no secret of it. And he's very welcome to have that view. I don't have a problem with it. But please, do not refer to me as a member of the elite, because I'm not. Do not refer to Emma Wolfe as being a member of the elite, because she's not either.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And what we do here on a daily basis is we bring you the news, which is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Okay, Mike, come on. Come on, Mike. You've got a level with your audience here. I'm totally honest about where I stand. I'm totally honest about who I vote for. But I'm also not party political.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I've never been a member of a political party. I never will be a member of a political party. I'm also not friends with politicians. Mike, that's different. Come on. that's different. You're very tight with Reform UK. You go out with them, you drink with them, you go to the rugby with them, one of your family members works for them. I'm just being honest, okay? And again, that's fine. But I am neutral in this. You're not. That's the issue. And a lot of
Starting point is 00:37:21 people who are covering Reform UK within Talk TV and within GB News are just their mates and want to work for them and want to be part of that. So I don't think that you're really being honest here with your audience by saying that I'm in the wrong and that I'm being deluded. Watch. So, Dan Wooden, as much as I admire you, as much as I love your show, as much as I enjoy watching it, on this one, you're completely and utterly bloody wrong and completely and utterly deluded. I'm not a member of the elite, and neither are you, and neither is Rupert Lowe. But if any one of those three names is close to the elite, it would be Rupert Lowe,
Starting point is 00:38:10 a man who has been born into privilege, a man who has done nothing but make fortunes of money all of his career, right? I mean, I just find all of this extraordinary, by the way, because I voted for Reform UK at the last general election. I made that clear. You know why the Reform cultists turned against me because I reported the fact that senior reform figures, were spreading a rumor that Rupert Lowe had dementia and I dared to interview Rupert Lowe. That's it. That's what they're unhappy about. Mike, that's journalism.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Okay, interviewing Rupert Lowe, after a big story like that is journalism. Reporting the fact that Reform U.K. was spreading rumors that he had dementia is journalism. And again, I welcome up this platform to everyone's senior in reform, to all of the strong reformers from Alex Phillips to Lois Perry to Nigel Farage himself, but they do not have the balls to come here because they would much rather sit down with you, Mike.
Starting point is 00:39:11 We are going to lob soft balls on them. We are not going to ask them any tough questions. We are not going to ask Zee Yusuf about how he bought his way into the party with £200,000. We're not going to ask Leila Cunningham about the fact that she's practicing Tcha in this London Merrill race. I will ask them those questions. That's why they're not prepared to be here, okay? Now if Mike was trying to convince us that he has a strong argument, I would say he only went and let it crumble to pieces
Starting point is 00:39:39 after taking another unnecessary shot mocking Rebecca Shepard. Watch. And he's chosen a woman to run in a by-election who can't remember where she got interested in politics from. So I don't think she's a very good choice. We'll see. thinks she's going to win. I don't. Some people think Labor are going to win. We had William Clucent on today who said he thinks Labor are going to walk it, which might well be true.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Bottom line, watch Dan Wooden's show, watch my show, and you choose which one of us is a member of the elite. Well, I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that, but I mean, it's not me. But I do watch your show, Mike, and I love having you on Outspoken, and that doesn't change. It is interesting to note, though, Mike's change in position since he was in the MSM. This is from No Chance, who waded in on mine and Mike's disagreement, pointing out, I know a lot of this is friendly beef for drama clicks. However, on your point of Mike Graham being a snob who looks down his nose at people he views as plebs, here's Mike comfortably talking about demography after he was fired versus how he spoke to ordinary people
Starting point is 00:40:54 worried about becoming a hated minority in their own country when he worked for talk radio. then they posted the receipts. Look. But you don't see very many English people there anymore. Certainly. In short, the people, the indigenous British people will be a minority in England by 2016. And London is different.
Starting point is 00:41:14 How is it different? It's different because it is now full of people from somewhere else. And it didn't used to be, you know. It used to always have, as every big city has, it had an attractive kind of immigrant aspect to it. But now white people are in the minority. 38% I think of white English in London, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:34 Oh, capital city in London. We are a minority there. Are you sure? Yeah. Who's told you that? When I say white people are all over the internet. Oh, it's all over the internet, right? Well, there's a lot of things all over the internet.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But you don't see very many English people there anymore. And a lot of people find that difficult to cope with. Because it's, you know, you look at the old shows like, you know, look at the Beatles, for example, from the 60s. And when they filmed that show on the top, you know, they filmed Let It Be or whatever on the top of the Soho rooftop, you know, and you see all the people down below and everybody's white. You won't entertain people who tell life.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Well, why don't you quote what's on the ONS statistics about demographic replacement? Well, why don't you read it out to me, and that way you can't then accuse me of not allowing you to do it? Certainly. In short, the people, the indigenous British people will be a minority in England by 2016. You said this was wrong, but you won't discuss it with anyone. Well, I'm discussing it with you, Sarah. Okay, just saying, look, the nation is an extremely dark place.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Thank God there are our patriots determined to save it. Like Frank Wright, whose determination to make this country great again, has gone viral worldwide after he's. was interviewed on the street in Makerfield. Watch. So what has persuaded you to come out today? Well, we've driven up my son and I from Newbury, because obviously we can see the state of the nation and there's a national emergency and we need to obviously think about the future. What kind of country we're going to have for our children? Or are we going to have a nation
Starting point is 00:43:19 at all? No, I'd rather live in a nation and not a market, not a borderless, international supermarket browsed by mutually hostile strangers, not something that reduces at all to bargain hunters. We need to save the nation, and I think that Rupert Loads to restore Britain is the only credible vehicle to do that. And I am so delighted that the man of the moment, Frank Wright, joins me for the first time today on the superstar panel alongside our very good friend, Philip Casale, of the New Culture Forum.
Starting point is 00:43:52 And you were the perfect guest. You were both the perfect guests to have here, because I think you probably straddle this divide quite well. I think we can say, Philip, you're a little bit more in the Mike Graham camp on this. Frank, you're obviously all out restore. So we can have the debate here. But Frank, I just want to start with your total show-stopping performance in Maker Field. That interview, which is just a joy to watch, by the way, it was all off the cuff.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And it absolutely captured, I think, the despondency so many. of us feel has been viewed hundreds of millions of times now. But presumably you had no idea. You just showed up on the ground and make a field with your son and had no idea of the impact you were going to cause by speaking your mind. Well, yes, I'd driven up, it takes about three and a half hours, in geriatric Jeff, which is my 21-year-old land rover with my little son. And we were red hot and I'd briefly been briefed on what to do and say on the doorstep. And obviously I don't want to make a big boo-boo. So really, I was thinking about that.
Starting point is 00:45:01 How am I going to get the canvassing right? And they're very careful about getting any information from people. Are they pro or for against and who they're going to vote for? So I was trying to organise that in my mind when I was ambushed by that giant. And I would like to remind you that I'm aware that giants eat little people. And you spoke your mind and made it clear. that the reason you're backing Restore Britain is because changing this country and I guess reversing the damage that has been done is going to take a lot more than presumably what Nigel and Reform are offering. Well, oh, do you like me to speak?
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yes, please. Oh, sorry, yeah. One of the things that impresses me deeply about Restore is that they recognise the depth and indeed the cause of the problem. And what we do now, generally speaking, is all of our time is taken up these days talking about the terrible effects. Your News program today is full of terrible effects. And they are appalling and they're getting worse and they're becoming more common. But what Restore are doing is looking at the causes of those. Now, of course, Rupert Lowe's program of, if you like, introducing mass deportations was the reason why he was ejected from Reform UK.
Starting point is 00:46:25 and the reason why he was threatened with imprisonment and his home was raided by the police and these allegations were made against him by reform. That's terrible. But what that is is to correct one bad effect of this terrible system. Now, what Restore looking seriously at is what causes all these problems? What has caused the degradation of our nation into an international, borderless marketplace browsed by hostile bargain hunters? Why do we have a deeply politicised justice?
Starting point is 00:46:55 system, why does nothing work? Why do few people actually work? And if you do work, why can't you earn a living? You have to look, pardon me, at the fundamental causes of these problems. Instead of constantly complaining about effects, we need to fix it. And that is to look profoundly at the nature of our political economy. That's to say, what's the economy for and what's our politics for? Because neither are working for the British people today. not even close. And so how did you feel when you saw Mike Graham taking that sort of elitist pot shot at Rebecca Shepard, the candidate who you are campaigning for? Rebecca Shepard, who should be pointed out, by the way, is a local businesswoman. You know, she's not some type of no-hoper.
Starting point is 00:47:46 She's a successful businesswoman who has decided she wants to devote her life to trying to save the country. Well, she's attached to a very successful and, and I believe, probably increasingly successful political movement that's captured the desperate need of the nation for national rescuing. And so I'm reminded of the brilliant song by Morrissey. We hate it when our friends become successful. And if they're northern, that makes it even worse. Because I noticed that Mr. Graham did the, well, indulged the egregious habit of doing a terrible northern accent. When he did that, as if there's something wrong with it. Obviously, I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:48:23 about that. But the thing is, is that when you listen to Mike Graham and you listen to Reform as well, you get what you can describe as an apophatic argument. And that means you are defined by what you are not. You are defined by what you are against. But Mr. Graham and Reform are incredibly vague and rather difficult to pin down on what they're actually for. You can tell what Restor are for and you have confidence that restore will deliver, vote restore and get restore. But when Mr Graham speaks as he does, he speaks very much about what he's against
Starting point is 00:48:58 and we never really find out what he is actually for. Much the same can be said for the party that he obviously represents, which is Reform UK. Dr Philip Caselli, you were on Mike Graham's show this morning and I'm a big fan of Mike's show. I watch and I love it. You know, I have no.
Starting point is 00:49:19 no issue with Mike at all. This is, I think, a disagreement over his particular content in regards to restore. But he is definitely pro-reform. I don't think you can deny that, Philip. How do you feel about this row with reformists saying actually Restore is just going to make Andy Burnham, Prime Minister, and destroy the country? Well, I think there's something in it, but I just wish the row would go away and I wish we could just indulge and practice in ideas, democracy and persuading people. I'm from the north as well. I'm from, I'm from Barry in Manchester. So I'm acutely aware of what's going on there. And just to use that as an example is probably a good thing. So the centre is completely green, okay, in terms of from the last elections. The centre is green. The outskirts,
Starting point is 00:50:17 Labor have lost completely. Reform are doing really well. But there is there is also a worrying contingent of independent candidates in places like Oldham, Rochdale and Bolton. So these are essentially Islamist candidates. I don't get any kind of real appetite for Restore in Greater Manchester. So if Restore do reduce the vote. And I don't get any kind of real appetite. And I'm, I'm not saying they shouldn't stand. We're in a democracy and all of that kind of stuff. But the harsh political reality is that Labor, that Greater Manchester is going to go to the Greens and to Labor.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Now, I should say here at this point that I mentioned in the deportation document that reform produced, because it has my ideas in it. Reform or restore? Restore, sorry. I'm mentioned in the acknowledgement. there. So I don't have anything against Restore. I think Rupert's great. I know him. I've worked very closely with Harrison and authored that report and you know and like I say my ideas are in there. I know Charlie very well. I'm very close to all of them both professionally and personally.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And I think they've got some fantastic ideas. But I think, you know, a lot of reform. If I say anything against Restore, then I get a tsunami of hate. And I'm being told that I should be deported because I've got a foreign surname, right? Where am I going to go? Barry, I don't know. You know, I'm having restore voters for supporters tell me that their granddad didn't fight for the likes of me. Well, my granddad literally built spitfires, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So I think it's all getting out of hand. I think it's all getting stupid. But as Frank said before, we shouldn't really talk. about the effect, we should be really looking at the causes. And what we have here are three major things. We have mass immigration. That's caused all of this stuff. We are on the receiving end of brutal Islamism. All of the content we've just been talking about has been all about that. And throw into the mix identity politics and this country is all but finished. So what I would really like to see is a strong showing from the right in terms of ideas and let the best man win.
Starting point is 00:52:52 But that, of course, is never going to happen because this is also about agendas. And I know I know everybody involved here. And I'm not letting anything slip by saying there are some massive egos here and other agendas at play. So I think we're in a really, really difficult situation. Like I say, I think restore our superb. terms of their ideas. I think they're politically naive. I think it's ridiculous to say that they are going to be a major force in the next election. They are not. Rupert Lowe risks becoming the Jeremy
Starting point is 00:53:24 Corbyn of the right. The party itself risks becoming a kind of grassroots movement in the form of kind of momentum, that kind of thing. There's a very definite purity spiral there which people will not vote for. What you have to do is look at poll check to see where the British people are in terms of their move to the right and they are pretty much exactly where reform is at the moment. So as time goes on, there is nothing to suggest that reform can't move further to the right and push the agenda more. Now, I'm not advocating particularly for reform here. I've got problems with them just like you two have. But I think we should be realistic. And I honestly do think that with restore taking something like 7% of the vote, which they will do,
Starting point is 00:54:19 they probably won't take much more than that. It might even go up to 9 or 10 maybe. They are just going to allow Andy Burnham to get in. Now, I think, just to finish the point, Dan, I know I've been talking a long time here, I think the really key point here isn't really about voting for restore or voting for reform. It's about apathy. If you look at Gorton and Denton, and I'm going to make this point because I think it's a very, very important point for viewers to take on board. 53% of people, Dan, did not vote.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Okay? That's massively important. To me, that's much more important than Rupert saying this or Nigel saying this or someone's offended this. Someone's just saying that. We need to address the issue. Again, getting back to Frank's causes. How do we change that situation? How do we make people think that this is worthwhile, okay,
Starting point is 00:55:13 and that they get off their backsides and vote. And what that, I think, is both of those parties presenting in a coherent way and in a way that isn't abusive. So I just get things like called Zio Pig and all of that kind of thing, not from just a few restore voters, but from thousands of them. Well, all I would say about that, all I would say about that. Let me just finish the point, Dan, because it's really important. Please.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And I'm not having a go at Restore Party there. I'm having a go at some of the followers. But I think it's about getting people off their backsides and voting. If you want to vote for Restore, brilliant. Vote for Restore. If you want to vote for reform, vote for reform. But by God, vote for someone. Because if you don't, we will have a red, green independence alliance that will absolutely
Starting point is 00:56:04 catastrophically wrecked this country. Well, yeah, I was just going to pick up on two points. Firstly, just to say that Restore is very clear that they are bringing out people who have never voted before, but like in the Brexit referendum, something that you could argue Farage did back then. And secondly, trust me, Philip, the abuse coming from reformists and Faragists is just as vile. I'm just going to say that. And this is, to me, someone who's not even in the party, who's just someone that
Starting point is 00:56:34 covers Restore. In terms of our vote so far, which party would you vote for in the Makerfield by election? Two percent of you would say vote for Conservative, 1% for Labor, 21% for Reform UK, and 76% for Restore Britain. Breaking today, Carol Vorderman, the former rare of the year who just launched a new big money campaign about how she's proud to be a milf, has teamed up with LBC's sniveling James O'Brien to attack Reform UK over their make-a-failed by-election candidates' joke about the former countdown hosts bumhole. And this really feels like the most that we've seen of Vorderman in a long time, right? Do you remember she mysteriously vanished, didn't she, after helping get Labor into government, and then it all went spectacularly wrong?
Starting point is 00:57:28 So she's certainly making the most of this controversy to parade in the public eye after Brits-Frank. un-interested in looking at Vorders anymore after her deranged campaigning for Slippresterma, which she wrongly claimed would save the country. Of course, she's now moved to the Looney Greens. What's interesting to me, though, and I actually quite like this, is that Reform UK's underfire candidate, Robert Kenyon, has made it clear he won't be bullied into an apology to Vorderman in an interview with the Manchester Evening News. He said, I'm not a polished politician, I am rough around the edges, I've made mistakes in my life, I'm not perfect, nobody is not a single person in the world is perfect. I think everybody does say things that
Starting point is 00:58:05 eventually they'll regret. It was a crude attempt at a joke to probably about 50 followers. No offense was meant and it's not something I'd do now. He then took the opportunity to bring up Ms. Vorderman's thoughts on grooming gangs and trans rights, saying there's been a lot of noise about this indirect sort of vulgar tweet that I've made, but I've not heard much about Carol's thoughts on Labor not having the grooming gang's inquiry last year or what she thinks about biological males being allowed into single-sex spaces. Amen. Asked directly if he would like to take the opportunity to apologize, Mr Kenyon says, I think I've addressed the issue. I think that no offense was meant, and it wasn't a direct comment to her. If you go into any building site in the area or any public
Starting point is 00:58:43 barracks, I think you'd hear a hundred times worse. It was just like I said, a crass attempt at a joke, and it's not something I'd make now. Now, I have to be honest, I don't buy that Vorderman is as angry or as horrified as she says, she is. Because just remember, this woman's most recent campaign that she was paid a lot of money for was to claim back the term milf. Melff means mother I'd like to, you know, okay? And on James O'Brien, in this pathetic interview, she was more than happy to remind everyone exactly what Kenyon had said. Watch. Deeply unpleasant situation, entirely innocently. So unpleasant, in fact, that I'm not sure I can repeat.
Starting point is 00:59:33 It's important that people know. And this is just one comment. He has made multiple comments, which are online abuse, about me and lots of other people. So the one specifically about me that he endorsed was I want to smell and lick Caravordeman's eight-letter word beginning with A.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And reform have said, Oh, it's just locker room banter. I don't know why they're using the term locker room, by the way, because I thought we said changing rooms in this country. But that's an entirely different question. But the thing is, James, I'm not upset by it. I am angered by it. And of course she's obsessed with Reform UK.
Starting point is 01:00:17 She went on to claim that the party is just a sex pit of sexists. Lee Anderson, bless him, when he was a Tory, that was after he was a labour. Yes. And now he's reform. Correct. Well, at the time of this conversation, we'll have to check before we play it out on the programme.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Tomorrow. Yeah. So he was in the Conservative Party at the time, and he was slinging insults to me all the time on Twitter in the days when we used to be on Twitter. And, you know, obviously now he's reformed. He thinks it's perfectly acceptable. So there is a pattern there.
Starting point is 01:00:58 with this party and that is my concern that they will if they get into and they've stated it is it out in the open we will repeal the Equality Act it's it's surprising to me when people like Danny Krueger talk about ordinary people are an ordinary man for an ordinary place when he went to Eaton yeah and well also his mother is on telly as well so you know he or she at least will be aware of the misogyny that can be yeah yeah you I think that that might have given him a slightly more sensitive insight into what it's like for women like you. And you are tough. I mean, I don't mean that in a patronising way.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I take it as a compliment. But MSM journalists are still not letting the offence archaeology go with the males Labour columnist Dan Hodges, posting on ex-reform supporters. Come on, guys. There are 44 million adults in the UK. You're seriously saying you couldn't find a single working class bloke who hasn't publicly boasts about wanting to sniff Carol Vorderman's asshole. What I don't get was reform aware of Robert Kenyon's post when they, selected him but simply said delete them, Robert will be fine, nobody will find them. Were they not aware, saw a guy who had erased his entire social media history and thought
Starting point is 01:02:05 nothing dodgy there he'll do. But I have to say, Hodges not exactly an angel himself on this issue, because he appeared to suggest that Layla Cunningham was leaning into Kenyon's white van while campaigning yesterday as though she was a prostitute, posting Lela Cunningham and Robert Kenyon, again showing reform's sharp appreciation of the important. importance of political optics in Meagafield. The Mercian pointed out if Robert Kenyon insinuated in a Facebook post five years ago that a female Labour politician appeared to look like a prostitute, Dan Hodges would be crying all day about how he was a misogynistic bigot and calling reform's vetting process unfit for purpose. But in fact, it wasn't even Kenyan's white van, but rather one
Starting point is 01:02:49 belonging to a voter, as can be seen in the bottom right image here from a Reform UK post. So Hodges was forced to quickly delete the post. How ironic. Admitting he was wrong and adding, okay, hands up, deleted the Robert Kenyon, Leila Cunningham tweet, thought it was a staged reform shot of her and him with his van. Now understand it was her meeting an ordinary voter. My bad. To my superstar panel. And honestly, Philip Casale, does this not just sum up the madness in this by-election? Look, Robert Kenyon is an ordinary bloke. He's got a long history on the internet. I personally have much more issue with the fact that he voted for Remain. That's my big issue, okay? But when it comes to these comments about Carol Vorderman, I think it's totally wrong to obsess over it. And actually, the vast majority of the public will be thinking, oh, Vorderman, shut up. You absolute hypocrite. You sell yourself on sex. You do art.
Starting point is 01:03:53 all the time about how you shag nine men at once. Your latest campaign is about you being a mif. Like, shut up. No one cares. Well, people are just giggling about it, I think, you know. But I was just listening to her then. She's delighted by this. Okay, she's absolutely delighted by this because this is a massive opportunity to have a go at reform.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And you could just see the, you know, the performativity of it all. Oh, I'm not, I'm not upset. I'm angry. You're not angry at all. Anybody who can read any kind of body language knows that you're absolutely reveling in it there. You're playing a part. You're performing because that's what you do. You do media. And she was, you know, having to go at Lee Anderson there. She started off as a Tory. Then she went to Labour. Now she's green or God knows whatever the hell she is now. So the hypocrisy is just utterly off the scale. But the key thing here, of course, is that, you know, in the broader scheme of things, they support the most misogynistic movement, which is the trans rights movement. Okay, they will have men in women's toilets. They will
Starting point is 01:05:07 support that for forever. They just will. When most other people, even who did use to support it, are thinking, oh my God, that was a bit crazy, wasn't it? You know, they were. You know, they have men in women's sports. They will have men in women's statistics, represented in women's statistics. Now, that in lots of ways, long term, that is the really bad one, because that is ultimately catastrophic for health as much as anything else. So they will live in this fantasy world for 99% of the time, apart from when they can just victimize and jump on some poor bloats. A poor guy. I mean, what did he have? 50 followers or something like that. Who's just now trying to do his best. He had no idea. And most of the stuff was like on a rugby
Starting point is 01:05:54 league forum. You know, there's a lot of deep digging here. And I do wonder, Frank Wright, if actually Rob Kenyon is more of a problem for Restore Britain than what a lot of people are giving credit for. Because don't people in Maker Field actually like the fact that he's a little bit unleashed, an ordinary bloke. Or, or are you on the other side of this? Because I know there are two sides of this. We had all the mini-hane of Restore Britain on earlier in the week and just said, she said these comments are so despicable and disgusting.
Starting point is 01:06:27 They do disqualify her. Well, I personally do find his comments disgusting, but I've been around, you know, in masculine environments. And I don't think that there's any rational reason to attempt to destroy a man's life, his reputation, a political career, for a drug that you personally find tasteless. I think if we look again at causes, you can see what causes the mock outrage at this,
Starting point is 01:06:52 and you can see what's effectively caused probably his remarks as well. Now, to speak to the first issue, it is the mad liberal political economy that we live in that basically privileges you if you can try and achieve peak victimhood. That means to say that you end up with a sort of economy of taking offence. Now, that means the person who clutches their purpose, the hardest and plays the victim the most convincingly wins the debate. That means there isn't a debate and it's simply utterly degrading. And that's what our politics has come to in many senses.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Someone is trying to sabotage someone's political career and campaign by pretending that they are mortally wounded by a few words that they probably wouldn't have even looked at unless it was being used for these nefarious reasons. Now, why does Mr Kenyon speak like this? Again, if we look to the causes, you have to understand that what we live in is a mass consumer society that relies on the complete removal of all moral restraint. And if you have any self-discipline at all, it's bad for the economy. So it mobilises desire. And we live in a deeply pornified mass culture as a result. So you can hardly be surprised if people come out with rather vulgar statements like this and they've become normalized. But that's what our political economy has done to
Starting point is 01:08:10 us. It has morally degraded us and it has degraded the level of our debate to a kind of offence-taking jamboree in which the person who can cry the crocodile tears the most seems to win the day. It's not good enough. There are serious problems with the nation. And although this is distasteful, and I would rather not my children ever see this kind of thing, of course, and I'd rather not see it at all, this isn't the central issue or indeed one of them we should be concerned with about the national emergency. No, indeed it's not. And the fact that this is so embraced by the left, by the offence, psychologist, I think does show that it is wrong. As I say, though, I'm more interested in the fact that Kenyon was a Remainer and was anti-Brexit. And to me, that does matter because
Starting point is 01:09:02 Reform UK are denying his own words. And I think that's a real concern. Breaking today, it's the type of scene that would have been completely unthinkable just a few months ago. Scheming Sturgeon, the heroine of Britain's elite class mainstream media, running so hard because she doesn't want to answer any questions from her old pals at Sly News, that she ended up stuck in a kitchen. But I don't think Sturgeon should be anywhere actually other than the kitchen of a prison because this woman is a liar
Starting point is 01:09:43 she has always been a charlatan and the fact that this is now going to be her political legacy is what I call karma. The revelations emerging about the former Scottish First Minister are extraordinary by the way and there must be a police investigation. I mean, now she's saying that she didn't see Peter Marl's illegally bought items.
Starting point is 01:10:06 That's her estranged husband because she didn't spend any time in her kitchen. Oh, really? Really, Sturgeon? What about all of these pictures that have emerged of you in said kitchen for media stunts? And now this lesbian woman, and I'm just going to be frank about it,
Starting point is 01:10:24 she was always using Peter Murrell for political purposes. she is very much a lesbian woman. She will live her life as a lesbian woman is playing the little victim card saying she's just another woman who was deceived and betrayed by her husband. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:10:48 She said, I have been misled, I have been lied to and I have been betrayed, and I won't be the last woman who has been betrayed by her husband. She added she would probably need to sit with a therapist. saying this is a long-winded way of saying, I will not, I am not okay. Shattered, I will be okay. I'm a strong, resilient person. I've had to be over the last few years. Even now, can you believe this? Scheming, Sturgeon is making out as if she is the victim. So, you know I cannot stand sly news, but I give them credit for this. I give them credit for this moment. It's the best moment since Boris Johnson had to hide in a fridge to avoid questions from Pear's Morgan.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Live on Good Morning Britain. Sturgeon now running for the kitchen. Watch. Nicola, can you understand why? Can you understand why? No, Nicola, can you understand why some people don't believe you when you said that? Nicola, why won't you answer questions from the media in relation to your husband? Well, I'll tell you why she won't answer questions and why she's running into the kitchen
Starting point is 01:12:02 because of these new claims that Peter Murray's, Meryl's Embesonet Investigation actually saw dozens of purchases, including women's knickers, dropped by prosecutors. It's extraordinary stuff. Among the items removed were paper and credit card shredders, women's underwear, 8606 pounds worth of studio fixed foundation makeup, 16 over mirror lights, a 300 pound Dyson hairdryer. I mean, Murrell is bald.
Starting point is 01:12:34 nine makeup organisers totaling £116. And remember that this leaked video from a call that Peter Marrell was on made it very clear at the time that scheming sturgeon wanted no members of the SNP to say a thing about the party's dodgy finances. I've been on this body when the party has, frankly, been teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.
Starting point is 01:13:03 The party's never been in a stronger finance. position than it is right now and that's a reflection of our strength and our membership. So just a bit of context for us all to remember. Secondly, I'm not going to get into the details that's for Douglas that's what he's elected to do and of course this body is the governing body of the party but you know just be very careful all of it's about suggestions that there are problems with the party's finances because we depend on donors to donate. There are no reasons for people to be concerned about the party's finances and all of us, need to be careful about not suggesting that there is.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And lastly, we've got to be careful as an NEC. We don't reap what we saw. If we have leaks from this body, as I said earlier on, it limits the ability for open, free and frank discussion. This body is all, and this is the governing body of the party with the responsibility to pass a budget. And if we, so in all the years I've been on it, there has been good quality, detailed financial information given by national
Starting point is 01:14:05 treasurers and that's how it should be. But if there are leaks, as with everything else, that gets more difficult to do. So everybody has to be very clear about that. The only thing the leaks would have done would have stopped your husband ripping off. SMP donors. Come on, this woman knew. She knew. She absolutely knew. She should be in prison. Douglas Murray in this week's spectator asking the question. and when did Sturgeon first notice her husband's kleptomania? Writing, what would you say if your spouse? Or a luxury camper van?
Starting point is 01:14:45 I know what I would say, something along the lines of get that thing away from me, I refuse to spend wet weekends campervaning around the highlands. In other words, any spouse of mine would get a tongue lashing. But he went on. We cannot know what Nicola Sturgeon's reaction was to this luxury monstrosity. She would have us believe that when Peter Murrell took receipt of his top of the range of camper van, she had nothing to say. So we do not know whether she was delighted or horrified by the unexpected gift. Perhaps she said, oh, Peter, it's just what I've always dreamed of,
Starting point is 01:15:15 our own luxury motorm, or maybe she said, I don't know, Peter isn't a little flashy, what will the neighbours think? I suppose, Sturgeon may not have noticed that many, the many luxury umbrellas her husband chose to require in one of the stranger demonstrations of kleptomania, but the Scottish weather being what it is, I suppose there is some justification for this particular hobby. Otherwise, the objects of his desire constitute a rather mixed shopping. bag. There are expenses that suggest the first embezzler had discerning tastes. To my superstar panel now, oh my goodness. Seriously, seriously, when is Sturgeon going to face proper scrutiny over this, Frank, right? I mean, this is the woman who stood outside that house, full of the stolen embezzled goods
Starting point is 01:16:03 and said, I will fully cooperate with the police investigation, then went into the police investigation journey. The only two words she used, no comment. Well, if you can't stand the heat, run into the kitchen, I suppose. But I do remember that I think there were rumors of this kind of financial corruption around Sturgeon for a very long time. And we should remember, of course, that Sturgeon is herself trans-sane.
Starting point is 01:16:28 She supported self-ID, which helped to end her political career. Now, trans-sanities, the deranged belief you can become. a woman or an Englishman by saying so and dressing up as one, of course. But as to the corruption, it's important to remember that she isn't the disease but a symptom. I think our political class has been corrupted by its dominance of the electoral machinery, which it's enjoyed by successively depriving us of any alternative to itself, all our lives. And this results in them being arrogant and corrupted. And this is partly because they believe they'll be in power forever, but also because they don't think they'll ever face any realistic consequences for anything they do.
Starting point is 01:17:08 And this is why you can see that Sturgeon is absolutely horrified to see some consequences suggested to her for her what looks like corruption adjacent to her political office. Now, I think that that's the case here. The real issue is bigger than Nicola Sturgeon. It's the fact that our public office is a series of abuses of public. office, from things like the enormous crime of the permissioning and institutional shielding of the rape gangs. The tens of millions of immigrants that have come into this country since 1997, despite successive government's promises to limit immigration, the staffing of our institutions
Starting point is 01:17:48 with an ideologically loyal Lanyard class that basically oppresses us with ever higher taxes to ruin our lives. These are some of the examples of the vast abuses of public offices. that we've come to accept as the business of our politics. And it is a business. And it's openly being conducted by our political class for their profit at our general loss. Yeah, that is such a good point, isn't it, Dr. Philip Casale? Because when you think about what Frank is saying,
Starting point is 01:18:20 it's so true. Sturgeon knew that she was always going to get away with this. And she did. And she was allowed to leave on her own terms. and there was, I believe, corruption in terms of even when Murrell pleaded guilty, he made sure that he did it after the Scottish elections, meaning that the SMP didn't have to face any scrutiny before that vote. There's not going to be a vote for another five years.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I mean, she knew that she was going to be protected because she is a key part of the globalist elite class. Yeah, I think there's a word, as you were both just talking there, there was a word that kept kind of flashing into my mind and it's the word gaslighting. We are forced to participate in this fantasy that these people are working on our behalf, that men are women and women are men, that diversity is our strength and all of that kind of thing. It relates to the story before. We know everybody's lying here.
Starting point is 01:19:21 We know that this isn't the case. And she was one of the people. who really took politics into the gutter. She was brutal. She was horrible. And now she's getting a come-up and she simply can't believe it. But, I mean, it's very rare, actually, the people in their everyday kind of walk of life come across such pure and unadulterated greed, as we've seen here.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Because you just generally don't, do you? But one of the, I mean, you know, this guy bought a pencil sharpener for 125 pounds. Now, Dan, really, you know, what you wake up in the morning and you think, my God, you know, what's missing in my life? A pencil sharpener worth 125 pounds here. It's just pure unadulterated greed. And if I were her, I wouldn't only be running out of the, into the kitchen. I'd be running out of the house or back into the closet or anywhere I could possibly hide. Because she's got her come up and's coming to her.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And, you know, if I had to think of anybody else, I can't think of anybody I would rather it happen to. I think it would be good, actually, for the country. I'm not just talking about Scotland. I'm talking about Britain here. Because it will feel, at least, bearing in mind we've been talking about Henry Novak, we've been talking about all of the injustices that we've seen over the last few months. It would be really great to see this person face a bit of justice, but I'm worried she probably won't. No, I couldn't agree more. And we know what the game plan is going to be now.
Starting point is 01:20:59 It's going to be, I hate all men. And this is why I'm now a lesbian because I've been so badly treated by my husband. That's what's coming. And I really hope people don't fall for it because this is a fraud of proportions that we have not seen in modern British political history. Breaking today, the pro-Palestine activists who hurled up. abuse at the legendary actress Dame Helen Mirren has been exposed, as you guessed it, a hard left Jeremy Corbyn supporter, the type of scumbag literally destroying the disunited kingdom. Now, Merrin was accompanied by her husband Taylor Hackford while walking through the streets
Starting point is 01:21:44 of East London when she was met by the Loon who filmed the interaction and had the gall to post his abuse online as if he had just achieved some sort of win. watch. And there's Helen Mirren, the avowed Zionist. She said, Israel should last forever because of the Holocaust. And she was very happy that Palestinians' houses were gone. You put the postal. You're an evil old bag. You're an evil Zionist bitch. And you as well, fuck you and all. As Gbby news star, Josh Howie wrote on X, Palestinianism is screaming at an 80-year-old woman in the street that she's an evil bitch and thinking, you're the good guy. But now we do know that. the identity of that man, and we should be talking about him, Tom Carroll. The Daily Mail,
Starting point is 01:22:32 revealing Corbynista Carroll from North London, has a history of posting abusive anti-Semitic material online, and was engaged in haranguing Dame Helen because of her long outspoken support for Israel. The ugly incident was first posted by an Instagram account called Anti-Fascist Action UK. The Daily Mail has established that the Instagram account is linked to a YouTube and PayPal account run by Carol who was tagged in an Instagram post linking him with the anti-fascist action UK account. In 2018, Carol was wanted in connection with a brutal assault on an 84-year-old woman at Shortwich High Street Station in East London while he was on his way from a violent far left. protest. Five years later, he handed himself into police in 2023, where he pleaded not guilty but
Starting point is 01:23:29 was sentenced to 12 months probation and 200 hours community service for the lesser crime of threatening behavior. Since then, his Instagram account has been full of anti-Semitic tropes and conspiracy theories, such as suggesting that the Bondi beat shooting was a false flag or staged. He has reposted neo-Nazi propaganda, alleging Jews declared war on Germany, and are responsible for the Second World War, praising Adolf Hitler and suggesting that Anne Frank's diary was made up. And I really do hope that more celebrities actually start coming out now against these hard lefters who they thought was on, who they thought were on their side. And one of those people who you know I've done a real 180 on in recent weeks is John Cleese. And he was asked overnight on X, it must be awesome to be old
Starting point is 01:24:16 and wealthy enough to say whatever you want without any fair of being cancelled. And Cleese replied, I'll tell you the secret. Moral courage comes from knowing that you're going to be dead soon. And isn't that only an answer that John Cleese could give? And I thought it was particularly brilliant. But to my superstar panel now, Frank, when you see an elderly woman like that, whatever her politics, being abused in the street, filmed by, total scum who think that they are achieving a win by posting it online.
Starting point is 01:24:58 It does tell you something about why actually celebrities need to start speaking up against the hard leftists, who for so long they have allied with. Well, it's curious to say that there's an alliance between the kind of Hollywood elite and the lefties. I think that's just performative as well. But the thing is here is that it's absolutely despicable, of course, to be rude to people, especially elderly women in the street. But if we don't want this to happen, it might help us if we try and understand the cause of this.
Starting point is 01:25:29 It's not just the fact that this man has clearly got his own problems if he's a committed lefty as he is. He's probably a stranger to reason and a member of the differently saved. But basically to speak to the question, why is one of our beloved Hollywood dames being called a Zionist bitch? Now, it may come as a surprise to your viewers,
Starting point is 01:25:50 but the flag of Palestine before Israel was established by a campaign of terrorism against we British that went on through the Second World War that the flag of the mandate of Palestine was our flag. And now I've interviewed people and spoken to them whose parents police that mandate. And I would suggest you should go and have a look at Hansard between 1944 and 1948 to find out how that state was established. And it was through a campaign of terrorism against we British committed by Zionists. I know, it's shocking.
Starting point is 01:26:19 but this kind of thing is absent from our national interest because international interests too often dominate our news. Furthermore, I would say that it is deeply unfortunate that we see this kind of divisive behaviour in the country when we have so many problems here at home. And I think that although it may seem terribly controversial to talk about it, there are indeed other reasons and indeed other people who take exception to Israel's actions. and that explains the, shall we say, vertiginous drop in support for Israel in the United States, which has led to deep concern in Israeli grand strategy circles. And that, again, is due to Israel's actions are not limited to the objections of objectionable people
Starting point is 01:27:05 who behave in a despicable manner, and that is despicable. I don't endorse that kind of behaviour. It's terribly rude and can well do without that. But the other causes that may have motivated this man's behaviour include, the despicable treatment of Christians and Catholics in the birthplace of Christ by the Israeli regime, which is routinely repeated and very often ignored in the mainstream media. And I personally have interviewed Monsignor William Shemali, who was the auxiliary bishop of Jerusalem, about the murder by Israeli sniper fire of two elderly Catholic women in the compound of the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza, for example.
Starting point is 01:27:43 So have a look at how Christians are treated by Zionists in the birthplace of Christ. and have a look again at what's happened over the years in Gaza and in the Middle East and all these wars that we've had. And ask yourself again why it is that people might not have a tremendous enthusiasm for genocide. It's not confined to the left. I don't endorse this man's behaviour. But again, if we want to understand why these terrible things are happening in our nation, we need to look at the causes and not merely denounce the terrible effects. And I would stress again, they are terrible. Well, of course.
Starting point is 01:28:19 And I mean, look, there's a lot to pick up on there. I guess one thing I would just say is that I am utterly convinced that we do not need to be importing the battles from the Middle East on the streets of the United Kingdom. It is absolutely appalling. What happened in North London overnight was absolutely appalling where an Iraqi national ran over an Iranian. And again, I'm just thinking these are not our battles. Dr. Philip Cazali, you're obviously very passionate about this. Do you want to pick up on anything Frank Cid there? Well, yeah, I mean, there's such a lot to pick up on there.
Starting point is 01:28:54 First of all, I think most importantly, there is no genocide. So the fact that's a lie. No, no, there is no genocide in Gaza. They literally... You should be ashamed of yourself. There is no genocide in Gaza. It doesn't meet any of the criteria. The population has expanded for a start.
Starting point is 01:29:11 The Israeli army... How much are they paying you? No, come on. You're a Jew-hating anti-Semite. No, no. You're focusing. You're focusing, you're focusing, you're focusing particularly on Israel and you're giving everybody else a free ride. What you don't mean, you don't mean Zionists and you're cherry-picking. But what you're actually doing is you're cherry, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to happen. This is, I'm talking now. This is my part-time to talk. You are cherry-picking instances from the past. and you are saying that...
Starting point is 01:29:45 Frank, you will have an opportunity to respond, but just... You are cherry-picking instances from the past, and you are saying that Israel and Zionists are uniquely evil, and that's what people do with your policy. That's precisely what you've just said, and you finish with the word genocide, but you haven't mentioned anything else that's going on in Africa,
Starting point is 01:30:07 that's going on in the Middle East. You haven't mentioned the fact that in Israel people do actually have equal rights. Women do have equal rights. equal rights. What you are doing is you're pushing an agenda that actually puts Jews in danger in this country. Antisemitism is through the roof. And according to you, that's because of what's happening in Israel. That is textbook anti-Semitism. You should be ashamed of yourself. Frank, you want to come back. Well, first of all, I didn't say the things that you said to me. That's a
Starting point is 01:30:38 complete misattribution. It's very, very unfair. No, it isn't. You actually ended on genocide. So in a way, you ended on that, but the conversation stops there because there is no genocide. That is the genocide libel. You know, it's almost, are you going to say that Jews drink the blood of children as well? Well, I'm not insane, so I would never repeat your remarks. Now, if you look at the parliamentary record from 1944 to 1948, you can see why we were expelled from the mandate of Palestine. And that was due largely to the actions of a terrorist group called Irgun that was run by Menachembegien, who began on to become the future. Right, okay. But bearing, right, with your logic then, we should not have a country because we've done some terrible things in the past, okay?
Starting point is 01:31:21 And people should, you know what, bearing in mind with that logic, people should just be able to attack us in the street. They should call us colonialists. In fact, this is horseshoe kind of politics, isn't it? Yes, it is. You're talking like an Islamist and you're using the language of an Islamist because you people always do. I am a former serving reservist soldier in the British Army and I take exception to people who defend the murderers of our soldiers and our officers and our ambassador and attacks on our people which is what was conducted between 1944 and 1948. And lots of people have murdered, you know, Germans murdered our officers.
Starting point is 01:32:02 That was Zionist terrorism. Lots of people. Anybody we've been at war with, anybody we've had diplomatic incidents with, anybody we've dealt with via the foreign office. This is ridiculous. You're just choosing Jews. Don't talk about Zionists. Don't talk about Israel. You just hate Jews, right? That is an egregious slur. No, it's not. It's true. It's true because you can't just cherry pick things and say this country is the personification of evil because it certainly isn't. Americans have murdered English people as well. Do you want to literate America?
Starting point is 01:32:37 I did not say what you said and what you're. are doing is a tremendous distortion that deprives British people of an informed debate. No, it isn't because you talked about a genocide. You cannot come back from that. You have lost yourself command because I said one word and now you've got very cross and said some very bad things. No, no, I'm not cross. I'm not caught, but I'm disappointed. No, I'm not cross. Okay, we'll, just just let Frank, you know, I like to have the full exchange here. That's what we do differently. So, So Frank, you just finish your point. What I'm trying to say is that there are regrettably,
Starting point is 01:33:15 extremely high tensions in our nation which have causes. Now, not all of those causes are just or indeed sane, but some of them are explicable, and these are concerns that are shared by the international community now. Now, this is not to, if you try to label people who try to solve problems in the world by saying, well, look, there are causes and effect, these problems. Let's investigate the causes. You're just repeating the same thing. Every single thing
Starting point is 01:33:44 you've said cause and effect for every single conversation we've had here. And what you do is choose, no, what you do is choose the causes you like, but you avoid the causes you don't like. I'm interested in the cause of the nation, my nation, my people, not international causes. And I'm saying that there are reasons, international geopolitical reasons why people would be outraged at support for Israel. namely because that state was proclaimed after a campaign of terrorism against we British, which continue throughout the Second World War. Now, that is a historical fact that is markedly absent from this. No, it isn't.
Starting point is 01:34:20 And so is the... It's an incident that's been massively out of context. There are a series of doctors, including the British doctor, Nick Maynard, who've given testimony of having gone to Israel and seen the systematic killing of children and medical profession. Oh, so it's the blood libel now, is it? So no one's ever killed children before. Dr. Mark Holmert. We've had the genocide libel and now we've got the blood libel.
Starting point is 01:34:44 We're not even thinking about what happens in Africa or the rest of the Middle East or what's happened historically in this country. We are thinking about the blood libel and we are thinking about Jews killing children. You said before you wouldn't go towards drinking blood, but I think you probably will do. I think that that's a terrible thing to say. And I think that this is a cowardly attempt to avoid speaking to the facts of the matter. Well, it isn't a cowardly attempt to avoid speaking to the facts. I am speaking to the facts, and I'm telling you two things.
Starting point is 01:35:12 You're not stopping speaking. One, that you are just completely avoiding context, okay? Two, that you are singling out one country and making it the personification of evil. No, I am not. And three, you are dealing in libeles. No, no, none of these. If you look at the parliamentary record, you can see that. I know you keep saying that, and I keep telling you there's no point because you are taking this out of context.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Let Frank finish this point, Dr. Philip. These are not my personal views that I have some kind of grievance because I'm insane and I indulge in the kind of deranged fantasies that Mr. Cozellie imputes to me. And I think that that is a terrible slur. And I think you ought to apologize for that because because you are doing everything that every anti-Semite always does. If you refuse to acknowledge reality, you can. refusing to acknowledge reality.
Starting point is 01:36:08 I'm asking for a little bit of decent historiography. I'm asking for some triangulation. I'm asking for some meaningful context. And I'm asking for you not to take one nation and make it, as I said before, the personification of evil because that is anti-Semitic. That is what... That is a lie. And these are the talking points supplied by the Israeli government.
Starting point is 01:36:33 And it's... You asked me if I was paid by the Israeli... Yes, I suspect rightly because... And that is another anti-Semitic slur. How many do you want? You've got the full dancing card here. Look, what you say is an identical... I'm paid by the anti-Semitic...
Starting point is 01:36:49 I'm paid by the Israeli government, I should say. That's the other one, right? Look, if you let me finish a sentence, I can speak to your concerns. Now, I say this because the way that you frame this issue is identical to the way that every other person who frames this issue in the same way frames it. These are identical talking points and they clearly have a common point.
Starting point is 01:37:09 It's not a talking point. My point is that you are providing exactly the same points, the same arguments. No, you just listen to me. You are providing exactly the same talking points that Islamists present. This is horseshoe politics,
Starting point is 01:37:27 extreme right and extreme left, coming together with Islamism in the middle. And guess what? That is a lie. I'm Catholic. you hatred that binds you together. It's like, you know, as I was saying before, Rupert Lowe is in danger of becoming the Jeremy Corbyn of the right with people like you you are insane and you are a liar. No, I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm telling you the
Starting point is 01:37:52 truth. But it's not enough to just say, oh, you're insane or you're mad. It doesn't work. There is one issue on which you immediately lose your mind and you will refuse to listen to anything. I'm not losing my mind. I'm not losing my mind. I'm just pushing back on you because you are a textbook anti-C mind. You will silence anyone with the same kind of voodoo curses that people use to call people crazy. No, it's I'm not using the voodoo curses. You're the one who's dealing in many evil anti-semitism. Can I have a word? Final word to you, Frank. Well, thank you. We began this regrettable rundown of the news with the news, which I think is far more important than this, of the permissioning of the murder, effectively, of a white man, by the voodoo curse of racism.
Starting point is 01:38:38 And of course, the voodoo curse of racism permissions, yes, Henry Novak's death, because he was called a racist. And now you will recall as well that the two Mohammeds have escaped effectively any justice for their violent attack on the police. This is the power of voodoo curses upon people, which are part and past, I'm afraid, of our rotten political economy nowadays, As you can see, when you attach these voodoo curses to someone's name, they have one purpose and one purpose alone to demonise and destroy them, and eventually to permission their killing as well, as we have regrettably seen with Henry Novak. This is where this kind of voodoo cursing leads. Instead of resorting to these terrible attempts to immediately smear, attack and dehumanize and
Starting point is 01:39:26 demonise people, I think what we need to do is to speak honestly again to the origins of problems in our society which are tearing our nation apart. Okay, well, look, thank you so much for having that debate. Both of you hope it was done respectfully. I guess my point on all of this, because remember we were talking about Helen Mirren, really, is that none of these arguments should be playing out on the streets of the disunited kingdom and the way that she was abused like that, I think was completely inexcusable. But thank you so much, Dr. Philip Casale, fellow at the New Culture Forum,
Starting point is 01:40:07 Frank Wright, who has become an internet sensation after his viral appearance during the Makerfield by election, very divided on the issue of Israel. Okay, we're about to reveal the worst Britain in the world this week. A reminder of your nominees, this is where we put your union jackasses head to head on Tuesday, it was scheming sturgeon, Wednesday, Tony Blair, and Thursday, Judge Nicholas Rowland. Now, he may not be a household name, but he is the judge who allowed those teenagers to get off when it came to the gang rape of a teenage girl. They are not serving a custodial sentence at all. Comments from you on this, Max, UC-2649, is it bad that at first glance, I thought that
Starting point is 01:40:57 you gave Nicola the Heathledge of Joker makeup? Oh, I'm just looking. Oh, I see. But that was Tony Blair. Okay, yeah, I get what you mean. John Peterson 703-2 says, Nicola Sturgeon, I always said for years there was something about her. She just had that face. The one only a mother would love. Interrogator Chaplain A. Smode said the other two abad, but Blair has been consistently revolting for the last three decades. In fact, the judge wouldn't have been able to make his heeness ruling without the actions of Blair. He got the ball rolling on the constant downhill spiral. that has come since. Paul E. UK said Tony Blair always. He was the start of this madness. He is the mastermind. John Peterson 703-2 said got to be Tony Blair. He did nothing for the working class.
Starting point is 01:41:41 And he also took us to an illegal war. William Moore 558 said there are just too many neoliberal judges in situ without the judiciary that enables criminals and killers to walk free for their self-gratification. A clear out is vital if the British justice system is to survive and public trust restored. Super Dooper 9-537 says the judge should be disbarred and have no pension. These rogue judges need to see consequences for their actions and trains UK 3525 said the judge should get the sack and the coppers who helped him in the murder of Henry Novak should be sent down. Sorry, not helped him. Let me just declare the judge should get the sack then and it's a separate point. The coppers who helped in the murder of Henry Novak should be sent down. I completely understand what you are saying there.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Okay, the results are in. In third position, 17% of the vote, Nicholas Sturgeon, the runner up with 21% of the vote, Tony Blair. But the worst Britain in the world this week with 62% of the vote, Judge Nicholas Rowland. Okay, we're moving over to Substack now because there's been a big scandal involving African parks and torture. This is terrible news for Prince Harry. We'll get all the latest with Royal YouTube Sensation P-diner at www.outspoken. live. I hope you have a wonderful weekend. We will be back live with you, Monday 5pm, UK, time, midday, eastern, 9am Pacific. Remember to hit subscribe right now on YouTube.
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