Dan Wootton Outspoken - MANCHESTER FALLS TO ISLAMISTS & HARD LEFT CELEBRATING AYATOLLAH AS TOMMY ROBINSON LASHES OUT

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: Islamists take over the streets of Manchester for a vigil celebrating the dead terrorist Ayatollah of Iran in another striking example of the fall of the Disunited Kingdom. Yet un...believably the MSM ignored those horror scenes as the police instead decided to shut down independent journalists like Young Bob who had been attacked by Muslims. And we now know the only reason Slippery Starmer went to war with Donald Trump over the US war with Iran was because Ed Miliband and the left-wing Cabinet threatened to lead a Cabinet revolt against him. This mess resulted in the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood attacking an invisible far right in her weakened crackdown on illegal immigration. Yet the real issue is of course the Islamist Green party whose deputy leader Mothin Ali is finally being called out for his extremism in parliament. Dan will outline the true horror we’re facing and then bring in Leo Kearse. PLUS: Ben Habib is caught on video calling Restore Britain racist, as Rupert Lowe hints at legal action. We’ll reveal the new ethnicity split on the right. AND: Fight night on GB News as Adam Brooks erupts live on air when leftie Nina Myskow calls him a member of the terrorist group the Taliban. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: Lady Colin Campbell reveals the true extent of King Charles’s health collapse as the toll of the royal crisis becomes clear. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken #uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 439. And breaking right now, Islamists take over the streets of Manchester for a vigil celebrating the dead terrorist-yatoller of Iran in another striking example of the fall and the takeover of the disunited kingdom. Please come here. Show support. It's a very peaceful protest. But we are outnumbered. It doesn't matter. That's a half of our outnumbered. It doesn't matter. Yet unbelievably, our MSM ignored those horror scenes and the police instead decided to shut down independent journalists who had been attacked by the Muslims. We've got these gentlemen here if you want to show their faces. You've got that man shining a light in my face. You know, thank you for the lighting.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It makes me more photogenic. But boys, we love you. I don't support a leader who institutionalised pedophilia and killed 30,000 people just because they're simply protesting. I mean, yeah, I told her by all historical standards, wasn't even a good Shia scholar. Used to wind up a crew. No, it's to film.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No, you're not, we're not in Section 17, the public. My evidence is my evidence is previous deal with you. Okay. You give me examples of when I've breached the peace. The previous deal is that a Palestine protest from King's College up to the universities I've dealt with you. I've never been done for breach of the peace when I was filming those protests. Oh yeah, young Bob's the problem, according to the coppers.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And we now know that the only reasons that Lipperie Stama went to war with Donald Trump over what's going on in Iran was because Ed Milibat, and the left-wing cabinet threatened to lead a revolt against them? No request from the US came in the specific terms that we exceeded until Saturday afternoon. Saturday after. Well, just to hear me out.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And therefore, on Friday there was no concrete decision to be made. The decision had to be made when we had the request. That came in on Saturday during the course. of the afternoon. And as the government taxed to the hard Islamist left, Home Secretary Shabana MacMood, decided to attack an invisible far right in her weakened crackdown on illegal immigration today.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Their vision of this country narrows. And their patriotism turns into something smaller, something darker. And ethno-nationalism emerges. The idea of a greater Britain gives way to the lure of a littler England and other voices, voices to the far right, take hold. If the left does not secure our borders,
Starting point is 00:03:07 the hard right will be given the chance to try. And they will not be restrained by values like ours. What absolute bullshit. You know, I know, she knows, the real issue is the Islamist Green Party whose deputy leader Motten Ali is finally being called out for his extremism. claims that the reputation of the Green Party deputy leader, Mothin Ali,
Starting point is 00:03:34 had been incorrectly attacked by the right Honourable Member for Wetherby an easingwold. In fact, he was entirely correct in stating that the Green Party deputy leader had attended a pro-Iranian regime rally. Oh well, at least the new Green MP for Gorton and Denton is having a good time, right? I'll outline the true horror we're facing, then bringing Leo Curse. He is with me for the entire show today. Also coming up, Ben Habib caught on video calling Restore Britain Racist, as Rupert Loh hints at Legal Action, we'll reveal the new ethnicity split on the right. Fight Night at G.B News. As Adam Brooks erupts live on air, when lefty Nina Mishkoff calls him a member of the terrorist group, the Taliban, and Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, on
Starting point is 00:04:30 Suicide Watch as Prince William is heckled in Cornwall will show you the dramatic video. Then in the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow on Substack, Lady Colin Campbell is standing by to reveal the true extent of King Charles's health collapse. The mainstream media will not report on this. We will do so sensitively. Come and join us after the main show at www.outspoken.live. It's the last union jackass of the week as well. I've nominated. So has Leo curse. I've gone for Nina Mishkoff. You're going to know why later in the show. She called Adam Brooks the Taliban. It was an astonishing TV moment. Also, Lindsay Hoyle, by the way, for those scenes of the MPs dancing at Parliament. I'll show you some more in just a moment in the digest. Leo has gone for Jane Mayer. She is the Edinburgh Council leader. And it is for her response to the knife attacker in Edinburgh earlier this week when guess what? She spoke about tolerance. You spoke about having a diversity and the fact that our biggest strength lies in those things. Mm, really does it.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So three interesting choices for Union Jackass today. Get voting right now. You can do so in the live chat on YouTube. Keep your comments coming in throughout the show as well. But now let's go. So we all now know the truth. Britain is being controlled by hard left extremists. The only reason Slippery Stama went to war with Donald Trump over the US war with Iran
Starting point is 00:06:07 was because Ed Miliband, that madman, threatened to lead a cabinet revolt against him. He was backed up, by the way, by Rachel from Accounts and Yvette Cooper. Now, here he was Stama at his press conference today doing everything possible not to give a direct answer to that very obviously true accusation, watch. So is it true that you wanted on Friday to give America, a precautionary permission in the event of Iranian reprisals, choose British bases for defensive action, but had your mind changed by Ed Miliband and other members of your cabinet?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Let me be really clear about this. No request from the US came in the specific terms that we exceeded until Saturday afternoon. Saturday afternoon. Well, just to hear me out. And therefore, on Friday, there was no concrete decision to be made. The decision had to be made when we had the request. That came in on Saturday during the course of the afternoon. We're already taking measures
Starting point is 00:07:14 in relation to our own capability. That came in on Saturday afternoon, late in the afternoon. We then, as you would have expected, went through the details with the US over the next day and ultimately reached a decision on Sunday, which I announced then on Sunday evening about 8 or 9 o'clock. in the evening. But actually on Friday, we didn't have a request from the United States and therefore no decision failed to be made. Decision fell to be made when we had the request. That was Saturday afternoon.
Starting point is 00:07:43 We then worked it through. Decision on Sunday, which was a decision of all ministers, unanimous, that we should take the action that I then announced. Thank you very much indeed. What are you talking about, you lying dweeb? Let me just sum it up. In other words, we have a prime minister who might nominally be in charge, but
Starting point is 00:08:02 is no longer leading the country. This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with. Hanging on to President Trump's latest words is not the special relationship. But it just gets far worse for Stama. He has now been branded a loser by Trump. The Daily Telegraph revealing the US president was talking at a private dinner within the past fortnight when he dismissed Sir King. care with his most derogatory term yet. A source telling the newspaper, Trump has started calling
Starting point is 00:08:37 Stama a loser. He said it at a dinner with friends. He just thinks Stama has no future anymore. The language, in contrast with Mr. Trump's previous description of the PM as a winner, is the latest sign that relations between the White House and Downing Street may have irrevocably soured. No kidding. No kidding. And Stama can't run away from President Trump's comments. Here he wants. been reminded of his global humiliation and desperately trying to show the world that the UK and the US still have a special relationship, rather unconvincingly. Prime Minister, Donald Trump has suggested that you've ruined the special relationship, you are no Churchill. On the special relationship, is he right on that? Have you ruined the
Starting point is 00:09:25 special relationship? The special relationship is in operation right now. We're working with the Americans in the deployment from our bases. We are working together in the region, the US and the British working together to protect both the US and the British in joint basis where we're jointly located, and we're sharing intelligence on 24-7 basis in the usual way. That is the special relationship. That is a special relationship in operation. And clearly it's for the President to take decisions that he considers in the national interest, the right decisions for the US. understand that, I respect that. But equally, it's for me as the British Prime Minister
Starting point is 00:10:10 to take decisions that I consider to be in the best interest of the United Kingdom. There's nothing controversial about that. The special relationship is operating right here at an important point. I mean, who is he kidding? Seriously, who is he kidding? Has he reached that point, do you think, where Stama is now just in total denial? But he did have to admit in front of the country and the world that he hasn't spoken with the US president since the Churchill insult. And that led him to swiftly end the press conference watch. To Donald Trump, I spoke to him on Saturday evening this last weekend. Thank you all very much indeed. Thank you. But it's the hard left now in power within the Labour Party because of their terror
Starting point is 00:11:05 after the Gorton and Denton by-election that the Muslim vote has been lost forever. to the increasingly dangerous and dodgy green party, led by the tit-whisperer Zach Polanski and his Islamist deputy, Mofan Ali. More on that later. So there is now an appeasement strategy in place, which means we're going to see more scenes like this. Stama, cavorting with Islamists in public
Starting point is 00:11:30 at Iftars in Westminster, whereas Tommy Robinson put it, the Palestine ambassador holds Kyrgyr Stama whispering in his end. Look at Stama's expression. The clown is captured. I would argue that's the understatement of the year. But on ground, I want to make clear, the UK was not involved in the offensive strikes of the US and Israel. And that remains the case. So let me be crystal clear.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I will always stand firmly against anti-Muslim hatred in all its words. I will root out Islamophobia, I will challenge it. You are the face of modern Britain. You are all representatives of a Britain that is by any historical or international standard. A success story. And that ludicrous approach means that the most unacceptable takeover of the UK is now being allowed on our streets, with the main concern of the police, politicians and the MSM
Starting point is 00:12:48 to cover up the truth. So last night in Manchester, Pakistani Muslims held a candlelight vigil for Iran's dead Ayatollah Khamini, whilst Iranians celebrated the liberation of Iran. Right-wing authoritarians like Alex Armstrong of G.B. News thought the event at the Friends of Islamic Centre should be banned. And don't know me wrong. I understand that position. I'm sure there's lots of you who think that is how we deal with this. But actually, I don't believe that bans solved the problem. The problem is that the enemies are here.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The enemies are on the streets of our biggest cities. And we need to shine a light on what has happened to. our country to really see how deep how crisis is. So that's what I'm going to do today because you won't see this madness in the mainstream media. Watch now as the goons Ahmed Yakub and Shaqqqqqa al-Af's far at the Khomeini Vigil say, you're doing this for Islam, we can't have Zionists coming here,
Starting point is 00:13:59 and we love Khmerani. Oh yeah, I mean, obviously, we should be a shang of Islam. Even mass, including, we cannot let this happen again. Oh, yeah, Kahn. Oh, yes, I mean, obviously the country cannot have Zionists coming here, but I guess terrorists supporting Islam is just totally fine. Seriously, though, these are scenes that leave me with chills. They prove that this Islamist takeover,
Starting point is 00:15:26 that I talk about isn't a conspiracies theory. In many parts of our biggest cities, it has happened already. Just look. 3193 P.5% percent, please come here. Show support. very peaceful protest, but we are outnumbered. It doesn't matter. The Sahaba were outnumbered. It doesn't matter. As you're alone. Thanks all of these guys. But come, let's show support. You got it?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Now, how are we seeing what went on? Because of independent journalists like young Bob, who were assaulted, threatened, and mocked by Muslims. So we are live in direct outside the Islamic Centre mourning the Ayatollah of a Iran. I think these are majority Pakistani Shia Muslims, if I'm not mistaken. And yesterday outside the Pakistani High Commissioner is actually another morning service, and there is a morning service in Birmingham at the same time. Now, this really puts into question, you know, sectarian violence. Should we have protests on the streets covering foreign conflicts? Now, on both sides, I would suggest that neither of them should be able to protest. That's something that does
Starting point is 00:17:28 really affect the United Kingdom, but we're going to be asking people questions. Of course, you just have that conflict over there, asking people why they're going to be. You're support the Ayatollah of Iran. Sitting down peacefully on what is supposed to be a candle-like procession. We've got these gentlemen here if you want to show their faces. You've got that man shining a light in my face. You know, thank you for the lighting. Makes me more photogenic. But boys, we love you. I don't support a leader who institutionalized pedophilia and killed 30,000 people just because they're simply protesting. I mean, the Ayatollah by all historical standards wasn't even a good Shia scholar.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yet, of course, how corrupted police soon decided to tariff, at that teenage independent journalist. I guess the press. Say it's here, say it now. Probably now. Probably now he makes us proud. No, it's to wind up a group. No, it's just to film.
Starting point is 00:18:17 No, you're not actually in Section 17, the public. My evidence is previous deal with you. Okay. You give me examples of when I breached the peace. The previous deal is that a Palestine protest from Keene's College up to the universities I've dealt with you. I've never been done for breach of the peace when I was filming those protests.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And you are causing a breach of the piece. My suspicion is, I don't have to explain why. that you move forward, I'm going to nick you. Asking people questions? We told the police as well. We don't want a situation. Just go back. You can't push, man.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I will push you. Don't push me. Don't push. Don't push in, mate. There's no need to do that. We've got it on record. He's pushing. No, no, he's pushing. You're actually pushing me.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Separate. What are you doing? Come over here, come over here. What are you doing? Stop. What are you doing? It is if you have to record the sort of finance these people are receiving.
Starting point is 00:19:01 We're allowed to be it, mate. We'll have to be it, mate. Can move, can move. No, we don't want anyone to get out. No, peace for people. Let's get on the road. Let's get on the road. You protect people that support terrorism.
Starting point is 00:19:10 On the pavement, I'm on paper. We're just trying to record, and the guy pushed us, so I pushed him back. Jens. Your presence here is going to cause a breach of the peace. Well, their presence is going to cause a breach of the peace if they're pushing people. No, it's not. Arrested last Thursday, and he came back again. I wasn't arrested.
Starting point is 00:19:31 He wasn't arrested. He was talking about officers over that side. Yeah. So, by the way, breach of the peace doesn't work like that. I can't arrest someone and, you know, only... I'm going to speak like this because this is the way that I dictate mannerisms. But I'm not reaching the peace. Just because they say it doesn't mean it's true.
Starting point is 00:19:46 How insane. Why are our authorities so desperate to shut down young street reporters like Bob? I know because without them, we would have no idea of the extremism going on because the MSM just pretends it isn't happening. Now, there was actually some reason to hope last night. As you can see here, the terrorist supporters were soon outnumbered and drowned out by Trump-loving Iranians dancing to YMCA. Sophie Kekoren posted Twitter will have you believing that everyone in the UK is against this war. Twitter is not real life. Look how happy these guys are. The UK supports Trump's
Starting point is 00:20:32 actions, especially British Iranians. And young Bob himself added, imagine, if this was your candlelight vigil and you were completely outnumbered and being mocked for supporting a brutal Islamic dictator. This year, Muslims mourning the Ayatollah have just been outnumbered by hundreds. And that is a rare good moment, but it is not the point because extremism, hard left Islamist extremism, is now becoming acceptable on our streets. Like the Greens, Deputy Leader Moth and Ali. attending a similar protest.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Now, the Greens actually tried to shut down debate altogether about that appearance, saying, oh, it was Islamophobic. But as a Labour MP, and congratulations to this dude, David Taylor pointed out in Parliament, they were lying. Watch. I wish to clarify the record in response to the point order
Starting point is 00:22:11 raised by the member for North Herefordshire on Monday following the Iran's statement in which she claims that the reputation of the Green Party deputy leader Mothin Ali had been incorrectly attacked by the right Honourable Member for Wetherby an easing world. In fact, he was entirely correct in stating that the Green Party deputy leader had attended a pro-Iranian regime rally. This is evidenced by the fact that the poster promoting the rally included the regime's flag, but more importantly showed that the organisers of that event were not only the C&D and the Stop Samh Wars Coalition, but also groups like the Islamic Human Rights Commission, which the Shorcosh Review named, and I quote, as an Islamist group with links to the Iranian regime.
Starting point is 00:23:02 There are also photos and video evidence of pro-regime flags, placards and chants, including chance of death to Israel. And finally, I wish to state my belief, despite public comments made by the leader and their other deputy leader of the Green Party, that there was nothing remotely offensive, racist or Islamic-phobic in either the right honourable member's question or the Prime Minister's response. So Madam Deputy Speaker, I therefore seek your guidance on how the record may be corrected. Indeed, as Hugo Tim's of Spiked Online wrote, it's not Islamophobic to convince. Dendem Mofan Ali's Ayat-Taylor apologism as Zach Polanski makes outrageous excuses for his deputy leader's mourning of Iran's supreme leader.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So could you believe, Polanski said the blatant Islamophobia, that Kiyah Starma is demonstrating through smearing Mofan Ali would be shocking, but it's becoming a pattern. He was speaking of his deputy who he described as a caring man of principle who stands up. for peace. Polanski followed this up with another post, claiming that there is nothing the establishment is more scared of than a calm, kind, thoughtful gardener who happens to be a Muslim man in politics. But Tims went on, as is so often the case when an accusation of Islamophobia is flung around, Plansky was not defending Ali from unjustified racist attacks. He was trying to silence criticism, which in this case was coming Ali's way for attending a pro-Ayatala rally last Saturday.
Starting point is 00:24:46 That's right, while the majority of the Iranian diaspora were overjoyed at the news that Ayatolli Arkhamini had been killed during American airstrikes with many taking part in large celebratory events, Ali was at this smaller gathering to mourn the tyrant's passing. Ali claims he attended the rally not because he supports the Islamic Republic of Iran, but because he opposes war, full stop. He said that the rally was organized by the Stop the War Coalition and any suggestion he may have been motivated by anything other than pacifism is pure racism.
Starting point is 00:25:22 But it is difficult to take his claim at face value. Ali has form here. He may claim to be a pacifist, but he has no problem with war or violence when it's waged against the world's only Jewish state. In the aftermath of Hamas's pogrom in southern Israel on the 7th of October, In October, 2003, he openly supported the Al-Ass flood, Hamas's code name for the mass killings, citing Palestinians' right to fight back. In 2024, when he was elected to Leeds City Council, he punched the air and shouted Alu Aqpa, declaring his victory, a win for the people of Gaza.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Polansky and Ali might cry Islamophobia, but the Greens' embrace of Islam. sectarianism and their willingness to excuse even the most violent expressions of Islamic extremism fully deserved to be condemned. Indeed, the Green's success in the Gorton and Denton by-election was a reminder that this is no longer a small party on the sidelines of British politics. They cannot be dismissed as harmless. I don't mean, my God, I've been saying for such a long time they are not harmless. I have actually predicted the Greens will be leading the national polls this year as support for Labour collapses. And look at this. I'm nearly already been proven right. So that's why the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood reversed her tough talk,
Starting point is 00:26:46 and trust me, it was only ever talk on immigration today to talk about ethno-nationalism and the far right instead. That loss of control breeds fear. And when fearful, people turn inwards. Their vision of this country narrows. And their patriotism turns into something smaller, something darker. An ethno-nationalism emerges. The idea of a greater Britain gives way to the lure of a littler England, and other voices, voices to the far right, take hold. If the left does not secure our borders, the hard right will be given the chance to try, and they will not be restrained by values like ours. Instead, they will pull up the drawbridge. Those who are, who are have been here for decades legally with settled status, will suddenly hear a knock on their door
Starting point is 00:27:42 one night, bundled into the back of a van, separated from children and grandchildren, and deported from this country that they have made their home. With deportations on the scale that reform now promise, there is no way of achieving them without sending people back to a country that is not safe, and where on return they could be killed. The problem she's got is that all her colleagues are now telling her the real threat is the insane green party. Some say in response that we should turn to the path proposed by the Greens, that we should create a world without borders, that nation states are social constructs and that patriotism is a dirty word. To some, these might seem like harmless student politics, but the danger
Starting point is 00:28:33 and the possible damage is real. party leader who seeks the highest office in the land should not be on the beaches of France helping migrants onto small boats, encouraging them to make a perilous crossing. And what he did personally, his policies would do many times over, creating further incentives to come to this country illegally and increasing the already vast burden placed on taxpayers in this country. Farage calls for border control without fulfilling our human. humanitarian and international duties. Polanski calls for the most expensive and expansive migration policies anywhere in the world
Starting point is 00:29:15 without any attempt to control the border. Nightmare on the one hand, fairy tale on the other. Now all of this is mad, right? All of this is mad because deep down, I have revealed that Mahmoud is an Islamist. she previously visited European beaches herself to welcome in illegal migrants so this mess isn't going to change because of her it's only the rhetoric that does remember this
Starting point is 00:29:46 Islam my own religion like a lot of practicing Muslims my faith is the most important thing in my life it is the absolute driver of everything that I do I feel a very strong calling of my own conscience and my conscience calls me to God. That is how... We're still here at Scybenia
Starting point is 00:30:13 where another boat of refugees has arrived and the layout is and there's a clothes station where they can get some dry clothes and then tears and honestly I take my hat off to them and some of these people don't have very much. And the Labour Party is just completely screwed
Starting point is 00:30:38 because they're elite messages. Let me show you this on the Labour WhatsApp group, which shows that they are actually totally opposed, even to what Mahmoud put out today, this watered down version. When the Labor PLP office sent to MPs, please share the latest from Shabana MacMood, the MPs just kicked off. Sarah Owen said, no thanks, will not be sharing this. Kate Osborne said absolutely not. Vicky Foxcroft said, I won't either.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Stella Creasy then got into a massive round. proving why she is a complete enemy of, I think, the British people. She said these people are already inside our borders. They are people we have said we would give sanctuary to, and they are now saying they would have to wait 20 years to get settled status. If you want to strengthen your borders, spend the £1 billion on more enforcement before you give someone refugee status or processing claims.
Starting point is 00:31:37 There's plenty of better ways to show you can manage an asylum seeker than spending money repeatedly asking someone if there's still a civil war in their country, and then inevitably agreeing there is so they can stay, but making it more likely they will be dependent on welfare. It's just nuts, completely nuts. Abistan Muhammad, this is anything but compassionate, and can we stop selling it as such? deterrence has never worked, and here we are doing the same thing over and over again, not Labor values at all. As others have said, you should have engaged with us before coming up with such damaging policy. So Labor does not want to control the borders. Just remember that.
Starting point is 00:32:14 This is all rhetoric from Mahmood. And a large part of it is, of course, because they are terrified of the Greens and this Islamist takeover and the fact that many of them will lose their seats because of sectarian voting. Speaking of the Greens, by the way, the MP for Islamic CBBs, Hannah Spencer, you know, she won in Gorton and Denton, starting off her first week by working hard for her constituents. as you can clearly see you. Let's do one more for five. Two, three. Very good.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Now, I have to say, I found those scenes in Westminster sickening. Our leaders are literally dancing as the Middle East burns to the ground, and the same thing is metaphorically happening in the disunited kingdom. Here we go, we have a turn. Human brakes.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Two, three, a, chuck, check, check, check, I actually agree on my this is the sort of carry on I was an MP war in the Middle East, innocent civilians dead and thousands of British citizens trapped. And MPs think this is a good look. No wonder voters are so sick of our politics. Now, Leo Gers is here.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Leo, it is such an interesting one, isn't it? I don't want these protests banned these crazy Islamists who are mourning the death of one of the world's biggest terrorists. I don't think the solution is just to ban the protest because that doesn't change the point, Leo, that these people are in our country, that these Islamists are growing their influence. in our biggest cities. What I think we have to do is stop pretending that they're not here and stop pretending that we can't try and get them out to take our country back. They can't stay, in my view, these Islamists. Yeah, and we saw with Palestine action, banning them, banning Palestine action didn't work because the courts could overrule that ruling. and then, you know, leaves the police on the hook
Starting point is 00:35:11 potentially for lawsuits that could claim that they were unfairly treated. If anything, banning protests like this gives them an extra sheen of edginess, of coolness that they don't deserve. Because these guys aren't the sex pistols. These guys are the don't have any sex pistols. They're, you know, they're Islamists.
Starting point is 00:35:33 They're, like you say, they shouldn't be in this country. We had an experiment with multiculturalism to see if it could work, to see if different communities could live side by side. And I think it can work if you've got, if you've got communities that integrate. I've never heard anyone complain that, oh, a Japanese guy has moved next door or a Korean guy has moved next door or, you know, there's a lot of Polish guys or Lithuanian guys at the end of my street and they're hanging around and they're harassing women around. There's never an issue with cultures that can integrate. But with radical Islam, I mean, this is a culture that isn't even native to a lot of the places that these people are
Starting point is 00:36:16 coming from. It's an expansionist, colonialist, imperialist culture that's taken over swathes of the Middle East, swathes of Asia. And now those people are coming here. And it's spreading. It's like an ideological virus that's spreading throughout the West. And we're We are so weak and so blind to it. And all the values that our existence, that our civilization depends on, these ideas of the individual, these ideas of individual rights, these will completely go out the window in a Islamic society. I mean, we really need to get a grip. This idea that we have to keep importing bodies, that humans are some sort of fungible,
Starting point is 00:36:57 replaceable token. That's a nonsense. Somebody born in Salisbury, somebody born in the West. somebody born under civilization cannot be replaced with somebody from the horn of Africa, somebody from an Islamic, somebody from an Islamist culture. So, yeah, we really need to get a grip on this now while we still can, because the longer it goes on, the demographic shift is accelerating, and it's going to get exponentially worse before we know it.
Starting point is 00:37:29 But actually don't ban these protests because we've got to see them. we have to know. Do you know what they do, Leo? Otherwise, they just go into their mosques. And it's a hell of a lot worse, trust me, inside those mosques, the things they say, the things they do. I did find it totally disgraceful, though, that the police in Manchester last night, the only person they decided to target Leo was a 17-year-old independent journalist called Young Bob. Like, he's the problem, Leo, apparently. Yeah, well, this is the myth that people have about the police. They think that the police are there to enforce the law.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And the police are not there to enforce the law. In the moment, in the specific moment, the police are there to keep the peace. So if there's somebody obeying the law, while everybody else is breaking the law, while everybody else is acting against British values, they will go after the person who's upholding British values because they know that removing that person will calm the situation. That's a terrible situation. That's a real, you know, red flag, a warning sign,
Starting point is 00:38:28 a canary in the coal mine right there that shows that, you know, we need to deal with this issue. Meanwhile, the war on the right of British politics has just exploded into the open, with the leak of an audio message sent by Advanced UK Leader Ben Habib to a party activist suggesting that Restore Britain, the Rupert Low political party, that just a few weeks ago, Ben Habib was advocating to merge with is racist. So this story was broken by Britain as broken,
Starting point is 00:39:12 who revealed a private team has been leaked in which Ben Habib says Restore Britain has gone full tilt racist and will continue. They sourced it to Robbie Reasons, who post on X, a friend of mine at Advance UK, got this dropped in their group today. They are disgusted with Ben and I don't blame them. Really disappointing from Ben, what is he playing at? Now, this is the audio message in question. Listen carefully.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Hi, John, just ignore it. Restore Britain have gone full tilt racist and we'll continue. Rupert Lowe suggested there could be legal action coming on that front, saying this is a very serious accusation. And that accusation comes as there is a growing war on the right of British politics, which I think is intellectually dishonest because it is designed to suggest that Restore Britain has embraced ethno-nationalist policies. Now, I have spoken to very senior sources within Restore Britain who insist that is not the case, who insist that their party policy is not. not to ban non-natives from running for Parliament. Indeed, they suggest that that position currently would be illegal. But I do think what Restore Britain is trying to do differently, and I support this, is not engage in offence archaeology, is not do what Reform UK has done, and say,
Starting point is 00:40:56 we are going to reject lots of members of our party because they might share a very very view that the mainstream media decides is unethical or immoral in some way. And in fact, I was very supportive of Advance UK and Ben Habee when they took a similar position, allowing Tommy Robinson to join the party. And I guess there is a very real reason why the rest of the right is worried about Restore Britain because we had this find out in our poll this week, showing them at 7%. And you know what those on the right always say, especially the reformists. Oh, well, yeah, I mean, Ben, Rupert Lowe might be saying all the right things, but you can't possibly vote for him.
Starting point is 00:41:44 You can't possibly vote for him because that would split their vote. And it's Reform U.K. who needs to win. But Rupert Lowe is tackling this directly too. Post-Yon-X will restore Britain split the vote. No vote belongs to any party. It is that arrogant attitude that led us into this mess. One man, one woman, one vote. That is how it works.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Votes do not belong to political parties. It is your vote. I don't believe that Brits should have to hold their nose and vote for the least worst option, however they may judge that. What a depressing and shitty way to run a democracy. I don't want to get involved in that. I want to give people a political party that they can truly believe in. If you want to campaign to get Nadine Zahawi,
Starting point is 00:42:25 Nadine Doris, and that random Bangladeshi bloke elected, then you can support reform. If you want to rehash the same people that cocked up everything in the first place, then Generic and Braverman will be on the ballot paper for reform. They have their track record of importing millions. If you agree, you can support that. Vaccine passports, mandates, lockdowns, all of it. If you passionately believe in that, there is a political party that is promoting the man behind it all.
Starting point is 00:42:50 You have that choice. Zahawi is in reform. You can support that party. It's your choice up to you. I am offering you a different choice. That isn't splitting any vote. That is called democracy. And I am entirely uninterested in conserving or reforming the status quo. I want to tear the existing state apparatus apart, limb from limb, dismantle it, destroy it. And of that I have to say, I agree. And actually, when Grok analyzed the polling and compared how Restore Britain is going, compared to
Starting point is 00:43:26 Reform UK at its start, then it's monumental. Look at this. Reform UK rebranded in January 2021 from the Brexit Party, and it started polling under 4% through most of 21 to 22. It hit 6% by early 2023. That was after the trust mini budget, crossing 7% later that year amid rising immigration focus. That was roughly two plus years from Reform UK's launch. Restore Britain's sub three-week jump to 7% is lightning fast by comparison. And even Grok says that is historic indeed. So there's no doubt that Restore Britain is soaring.
Starting point is 00:44:14 The question is Leo curse. Are they soaring because Ben Habib suggests that they are in some way going full tilt racist? Yeah, I mean, I thought that was an unfortunate word. Obviously, it's a private conversation. So, you know, we all say things in private conversations. We don't want to get out. In fact, I say things that are much worse than that, things that Ben Habib would probably call racist.
Starting point is 00:44:41 But, I mean, this smearing of somebody is racist. This is a tactic that a lot of people on the right find very distasteful, just because it's happened to us and it's essentially meaningless. I don't really understand what racism is and why it's bad. If somebody could explain that, then I'm sure I'd understand. But, you know, for some reason it's seen as this absolute, you know, synchuanon, like the apotheosis of evil when, you know, practically, I should imagine racism for a lot of people is useful,
Starting point is 00:45:13 heuristic and one of many ways that they judge someone, you know, including how they're dressed, their accent and all the rest of it. I know if, you know, if you see a very well-dressed man, like, Idris Elba, you know, talking an English accent. You know, if you see Ben Habib with the posh, posh accent, you're going to, you're going to think differently to a white guy who's, you know, talking street and, and, you know, is dressed shabbily. So, you know, race isn't the be all and end all.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I don't understand why people get so hung up over it. But I think there's a good point that the vote on the right is going to be split between reform, restore, possibly the Tories might have some sort of resurgence, might rediscover their conservative roots and actually be conservative for a moment, and advance, and whoever else pops up. I know there are other parties. I don't know how serious they are. The Homeland Party, there's various other ones as well. And this is a concern. I think a lot of people on the right don't understand. And this is the problem with the right, because everybody's a sort of fierce individual. It's a very individualistic movement.
Starting point is 00:46:25 is hard for them to coalesce around a party. And you get a lot of egos, and I think that's what's torn apart reform into these three parties. Obviously, Farage is still reform, and you've got Rupert and Ben, who used to be in reform as these sort of satellite parties as well, with the potential to take away a damaging amount of the vote. If we look at the polls, the Greens are only behind,
Starting point is 00:46:55 reform by a few points, if restore take seven points away from reform, that could swing the election. And we could have Prime Minister Zach Polanskin. I'm sure nobody wants to see that. No, more likely Prime Minister Mothanali at this rate, I would say. But here's the thing, Leo, here's the thing. That is all true. But it was Reform UK who made the decision to thrust people like Rupert Lowe or me or Katie Hopkins or Tommy Robinson or whoever it happens to be that lot out of the party. And they have decided, and I don't think it's working this strategy, but they have decided that they are going to move to the left. I mean, we saw it yesterday with this embrace of two Labor no marks, one of whom got up on stage and said, you know, anyone who's in
Starting point is 00:47:49 Britain legally is, of course, a British citizen and, you know, we want refugees, etc., etc. That is a decision that Nigel Farage himself made. And so his decision, I think, to alienate lots of his natural support base was obviously always going to mean that a rival was going to be created. What? We were just going to sit there and say, oh yeah, they hate us. You know, they call us far right. Remember, this is what Reform are doing. I mean, Leila Cunningham went on the Suns show and actually described me, me as being far right. Someone from Reform. describe me as being far right. No, that is nuts.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I'm just not having that. And so at the end of the day, yeah, there might be votes splitting, but at some point we can be strategic. We're just not at that point yet. I guess what's interesting to me about the Ben Habibah developments, though, and I will say, and I'm very much looking forward to this, Ben Habib has agreed to come on the show tomorrow, and he actually wants to outline his position in some detail.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And I think that is important, because there are a couple of things about this, Leo, that don't really add up. Do you remember when a few months ago Lucy White, who is the activist and public policy expert, now banned from Talk TV and GB News because she said that she didn't want any foreign born person to be in the British Parliament and she criticised the deputy speaker of the House who is Pakistani born? At that point, Ben Habib actually backed her and said, no, I understand that position. even though it meant that Ben Habib himself would not be able to become an MP as he was Pakistani born. So I am interested as to why that position is acceptable, but somehow restore Britain's new approach is not acceptable. I can't really work out what's changed.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Well, I think people might be, you know, feeling the waters, testing the waters. We're in an incredible state of flux as a society now. things that would have been considered absolutely outrageous and radical and extreme a few years ago are now part of the mainstream discourse, even things like remigration. That would have been seen as absolutely unconscionable a few years ago. Now it's being discussed as a potential solution and it's being implemented across Europe and fellow Western democracies. In Nigel Farage's defense, he knows how to get elected.
Starting point is 00:50:17 He's built political movements, political parties. that have had incredible impact previously. He's not really in Parliament, though. He's a great campaigner, Leo. I absolutely give you that. But remember, he ran multiple times as an MP before he was elected. And I would argue the current strategy is not working.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I mean, Reform UK keeps going down in the polls or has certainly hit a ceiling, whereas at this stage, say, before, like, New Labor's win in 1997, Tony Blair was polling well. over 50%. That's how you sort of become inevitable. And I would not say Farage is inevitable at this point. Well, I think there is going to be a natural ceiling on Farage's vote just because of the, you know, part of the, part of his strength is his recognizability and, you know, his brand is known to people. But the flip side of that is that a lot of people don't like his brand. However, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:15 accurate it is. You know, they believe all the, all the stuff that's in the, in the papers about him being, you know, the second coming of, you know, Mussolini or whatever, you know, whatever nonsense is in The Guardian. And he's obviously not. He's, you know, very socially liberal, just pragmatic, you know, Western Democrat democracy vote supporting guy. He's absolutely a civic nationalist. And he's this interest, actually. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Even restore. I look at Restore and I'm like, well, these are, these are just sensible policies. That's what I was going to say. Do you see any racism from Restore Britain? And by the way, I'm not talking about some of their supporters or the fact that Steve Laws or, you know, one of the ethno-nats says, yep, we like this guy.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I'm talking about the party itself, the leadership of the party. Have you seen anything full-tilt racist, as Ben Habib said? I mean, I couldn't put my finger on something that's full-tilt racist. I think if I know you said, don't look at any of the supporters. If I do look at the supporters, you know, yeah, I'd say, I'd say there's some racism there. But I'd also say, you know, why is that such an unconscionable thing? Like if we look at Britain, we know that Britain, I'm not an ethno-nationalist or anything. You know, I'm a civic nationalist kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:52:38 But I understand that there have to be limits. We can't have the entire population of the Horn of Africa come to Britain. Britain has to remain a predominantly British, you know, English, Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish place. And if you change the demographic background, we can't pretend that, you know, people are just replaceable. And somebody who's got ancestry in the Horn of Africa is going to have the same affinity and love for this country that somebody who can trace their ancestry back to the Doomsday Book is going to have. That's just an obvious thing for me. But that's a racist, that's essentially a racist position. Because I'm saying that, you know, somebody who's ethnically different won't, won't have the same affinity or on a population level.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Obviously, there are going to be people, like my uncle's a great example. He came here in the 70s. He's Indian. And he loves this country more than anybody. And he's the most patriotic, I mean, he's not British, but he's the most patriotic citizen you could get. and he's a great ambassador, a great example of how immigration and integration can work. But we're getting a lot of people who don't have that same attitude, that same ability to integrate. So, you know, I'd say, yeah, maybe there are people who criticize the demographic change in the UK supporting Restore.
Starting point is 00:54:08 But I'd also say, what's wrong with that? Why can they be allowed to have that opinion? Seems like a perfectly valid opinion to me. Well, yeah, and I do think where Restore Britain is right is to say that simply having a British passport does not make you British. And there are loads of examples. I mean, are you really saying Nabili? The scumbag who blew up children at the Manchester Arena, children who were attending an Ariana Grande concert? Is he British?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Is that Islamist British because he happened to hold a British passport? Or Axel Ruder Cabana? Who was born here? But I would argue was certainly not at all British, despite the fact that he may have been a British national with a British passport when he went and stabbed those girls to death at a Taylor Swift dance class. I also believe that English ethnicity exists.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Just like Nigerian, ethnicity. exists or Jamaican ethnicity exists or Japanese ethnicity exists. And if we continue to pretend that it doesn't, then that's why more and more of us are going to become frustrated and furious. So let's just deal in reality here. But as I say, Ben Habib has agreed to come on, outline his position he will do so tomorrow. Whoa, it was fight night at G.B News as the panelists on their prime time show went head to head after Nina Mishkoff accused Adam Brooks and these two work together and have done for a long time, but let's just be honest about it, completely despise each other. And she called him a member of the Taliban.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Now for GB News viewers, this was the final straw. Alina posting on ex-Kinna just apologize to Adam. Brooks. What a foul, disgusting comment to make to another panelist. She is a horrific specimen of a woman. She always has been calling someone the Taliban should at last get her off the show. Now, I'm going to show you exactly what happened, but this is an interesting one for me because I was the person that put Adam Brooks on TV before anyone else. And I was also the person who, for my sins, and I apologize, put Nina Mishkoff on G.B. News for the first time. Now, why did I do that? Well, at G.B. News, because they sign up to the regulations of the off-communists,
Starting point is 00:56:50 you have to have lefties because every single debate, in theory, has to provide a counter-argument. And personally, I actually always enjoyed the clashes when I was on screen at G.B. News, but now they seem to shy away from them. and the problem that you've got is that lefties are insane. Lefties are truly insane. They have suicidal empathy. And I believe that Nina Mishkoff genuinely does believe that Adam Brooks is a terrorist. And that's when you've got to think, actually, is it wrong
Starting point is 00:57:28 to keep giving these nutters a platform? Now, I'm going to show you how this developed over the course of the night because the problem with this show, of course, and I'm very familiar with it because I launched the whole thing, format remains the same, is that the lefties and the righties have to spend about three hours together because they gather in the green room before the show begins, then they're on screen for certain parts of the show. And if something has kicked off on air, they then go back into the very same green room space at GB News and things can get tense. I mean, I remember there have been examples with some of my
Starting point is 00:58:06 panelists where they refuse to even sit in the same room together. So you'd have Amy Nicole Turner say, no, I'm going to be down that end of the studio and Sean Bailey sitting in another part because they hated each other after a clash on air. So it could be very difficult. And what you saw happen last night is that the tension rationed up throughout the show to the point where it exploded just 15 minutes before it ended. So I want to show you what happened to begin with. This was at about 9-15, the start of the show, where Nina Mishkoff immediately misrepresented what Adam Brooks had been saying. Yeah, firstly, I would just like to say that Iran and Persia, as it was, has a very
Starting point is 00:58:51 civilized, a very ancient civilisation, very cultured people, and they are, they are, so to counter what Adam is saying that they're all a bunch of rapists and murderers and terrorists. I didn't say that. You implied that terrorists were coming here. We've already let those here. He's not wrong to say that terrorists. We have had, there are cases that MI5 have highlighted if that, and that's what Adam was saying. Okay, so I know that was relatively low-key, but the tension then simmered backstage for an hour
Starting point is 00:59:17 before these two were put back on screen just after 10pm, and Nina described Adam as extreme. This religion seemed to be the most important thing in the minds of our politicians. It's not the most important thing. I do not understand it. And as I say, I respect everyone's right to, to, to, to, their beliefs and their religion, whether you're Christian, Jewish or Muslim. I don't want religion to affect my daily life every day. And at the moment, Labour are making that happen.
Starting point is 00:59:49 It seems like they're prioritising the Muslim faith over everything else in this country. That is such an extreme view, if you don't mind my saying. That is an extreme view. Extreme view to say I respect people's religion, but I just don't want it in my face. No, no, no, no. I'm saying you're saying the Labour government. It's making like a video of Kirstama. He has to, he's a leader.
Starting point is 01:00:11 He doesn't have to do anything. He has to meet other leaders. Of course he has to meet the leaders. You know, you can't just say he used to turn us back on a Muslim leader. Can I? When did he have some tough words for them? He doesn't seem to ever have some tough words. So again, like nothing unusual there.
Starting point is 01:00:31 But I think what it showed is that these two hadn't been getting on. and then half an hour later, by 1045, things exploded. Because I'd had to spend two hours together by this point. They're talking about... They'll have weapons of mass destruction. And she then decided to compare him to the Taliban while branding him sexist. They're talking about they'll have weapons of mass destruction.
Starting point is 01:01:01 It's the same thing. It's exactly the same thing. So when they wanted to go in now... And the reason they, I understand that they went in, Iranians have admitted it this time, Nina. What? They do have enriched uranium. They've admitted they've got nuclear material.
Starting point is 01:01:14 It's nothing like Iraq. That was built on lies. This is in... We now have social media. One second. Can I... Can you... You talk for a long time and you jump in.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You're like the bloody Taliban sometimes. You really are. I won't let a woman speak. How lovely. I think I had them all like that. No, that's exactly why I use it. I'm like the Taliban. I hope the viewers are...
Starting point is 01:01:35 There's Taliban. The claimers for interrupt. You showed yourself up there to the viewers, but go on, Nina. Taliban are famous for shutting up women. That's why I used it. That's the only reason. All right, all right. Okay, and you don't shut up the other people.
Starting point is 01:01:47 You only jump in on me. No, I counter your ridiculous comments. Can we talk about a story? Go on, Nina. Get into it. I was going to say when I was so rudely interrupted, as I often am. Look, I mean, I... Can you just be quiet for a moment and let me speak with...
Starting point is 01:02:06 point then please Nina. I was trying to make a point but you jumped in. Do you know what time out? Okay so at that point Alex Armstrong had the Philan presenter had to call time out. Adam was clearly enraged and I do note that GB News presenters now live an absolute terror because of what happened to me. It's like you have to control your guests or you might lose your job. Just think about what Nina Mishkoff said live on air. by calling Adam Brooks a member of the Taliban. She wasn't only suggesting he was sexist, which is bad enough.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I mean, Adam is not a sexist guy, but that type of allegation can stick. It was far worse than that. She was suggesting that he advocates violence against women. Think about the types of things that Taliban do to women. They sometimes stone them to death. if they committed adultery. So this was not just a low blow. It was a really revolting allegation.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And Adam Brooks was furious about it. Now, as I say, G.B. News has this thing where they don't really believe in free speech now and presenters have to immediately try and get guests to apologize, if anything controversial is said, because that was my sin in the whole Lauren. Fox debacle, I didn't force him to apologize. That didn't work for Alexander Strong, though.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Watch this. Before we go to break, I think you should apologise for the Taliban. Comment, Nina, come on. I don't care. I don't care, honestly. I am not going to apologise for that because he treats me like a Taliban would treat women. All right, then. Well, we'll leave it there.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I've tried to mediate. Try to mediate. Well, as I say, I don't think they leave that studio, and Adam Brooks starts stoning Nina Mishkoff for being disrespectful. But Adam did take the higher ground, knowing that Jimmy News viewers were very much on his side, posting, there will be many in the media that don't want me in their space. I have no qualifications and no training. I've learned on the job over the last four years.
Starting point is 01:04:22 One thing you will get from me is honest opinion, whether I'm right or wrong. Yes, I'm the opinionated publican. I won't change. I have thick skin. I don't take anything too personally on here or on TV, and especially in person. I'll always be a gentleman when it comes to women, even if I'm being called names and being shouted out. Line drawn under it or me.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And it wasn't the only fight on G.B. News this week. It also kicked off between the truly repulsive hard leftist Jonathan Liss and Christo Fufas. Watch this. I can't listen to Liss any longer. You don't speak for this country, Liz. I've just turned on that saw Liz's on the panel and I've switched off immediately. If Liz doesn't like GB News, watch us. For one minute, just take a break from being yourself.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I'm not reading, I'm reflecting the mood of the nation, the nation that you think, you know, that you know so well, this is what they think. I'm saying that GB news viewers are not necessarily reflective of being high average population. It's not an insult, it's an observation. Don't be such a snowflake wet, white. So, Leah, because, I mean, that one to me seemed a little bit more performative. But what went down between Adam Brooks and Nina Mishkoff was visceral. Did she cross a line by suggesting he was in the Taliban? I thought that was a, I mean, she's obviously reaching for a hyperbolic phrase.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I don't think she genuinely thinks he's like somebody in the Taliban, at least I hope not, because this is the thing. Adam is a lovely guy. He's a genuinely lovely guy and a polite and charming guy. And just because they've disagreed doesn't mean that he's in the Taliban. Just because he's interjected with some points doesn't mean that he's in the Taliban. So, yeah, I mean, I never know how much of this sort of stuff is for show, because there are people that I've had blazing rows with.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I've had blazing rows with Benjamin Butterworth, for example. And we just have a laugh afterwards. I don't know why Benjamin Butterworth gets all this hate on social media because he's like a genuinely lovely, funny guy. And he's somebody that you can have like a fun... Yeah, I always had a good relationship with Benjamin Butterworth, actually. Yeah, he's a great guy. But there are other people who really take it personally when you...
Starting point is 01:06:59 It's as if the thing that they're arguing about, is something core to their identity when it's not. Quite often when we're arguing ideas, it's like a footballer. We're kicking the football. We're not kicking each other. So people need to sort of let go of that. But then it does make for gripping television
Starting point is 01:07:18 when there is a real scrap. I have it a real scrap with Kate Smarthwaite. I don't think Kate Smarthwaite has ever been on TV and not had a scrap. And I've had a scrap with Dr. Shola, Moss, Shog, Bing, Bing, and I think when you get a real scrap like that, that's why Kate and Dr. Shola get invited back on TV because they know there's going to be fireworks.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it? Because I don't have to do it because I'm not off-com regulated, you see. And sometimes I think it's a good thing. Other times I'd quite enjoy it. Oh, there's the horrifying side of the very hairy Kate Smith. way. But earlier this week, Pearz Morgan just destroyed Dr. Shola, just totally destroyed her, branded her a race beta. But again, he had her on the show in order to do that. Now, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:16 I'm not against platforming people. I hate that definition because I do believe in free speech. But I always find it ironic that the most hard left extreme people will be platformed on channels like G.B. News when they won't have Katie Hopkins on. They won't have Tommy Robinson on. They won't even have Rupert Lowe on. That is odd to me. I think that'll change. And Rupert Lowe, used to be, I'm pretty sure he used to be on GB News. Ben Habib used to be on G.B. News. But what offends me more. What upsets me more? What changed? What changed, Leo? The mainstream channels, the BBC, Channel 4, they won't have people like me on. You know what I mean? Like, they they occasionally have me on.
Starting point is 01:09:02 A lot of times I get a call from the BBC and they say, oh, do you know, do you know, come to this show? You know, I've been watching your stuff. And then they obviously get a call back and they, a call from a higher up who says, no, we can't have that guy. He's a degenerate evil Nazi racist.
Starting point is 01:09:17 And, you know, that's me kicked off the, kicked off the BBC just because I don't think Britain is a, is an outpost, you know, some borderless, communist economic bloc joined onto the horn of Africa. So I think the BBC, see, and these left-wing establishment mainstream channels should have people from the right on and allow these. I think if you want to see opposing viewpoints actually come together, the only place you're going to see it is somewhere like GB News or on the internet, on your show,
Starting point is 01:09:47 or somewhere else. It's never on the big mainstream lefty channels. Breaking today, Prince William has just been heckled again, this time on a visit to Cornwall in a hard left campaign which has been organized by the Republic organisation. Now, I'm going to show you both what the Republicans want you to see of William's visit and what actually happened, which is that William completely charmed the locals in Cornwall and was widely adored. But I don't think we can ignore that what is going on at the moment is very much a plot and a plan to undermine the British Royal Family and to ensure that the Andrew Mountbatten wins a scandal infects other members,
Starting point is 01:10:40 including Prince William, who by the way, I must point out, had nothing to do with the £12 million payoff to Virginia Dufray, was still at university when Andrew's alleged crimes were conducted, and who had argued last year for his father, King Charles, to remove his uncle from the line of succession. And who argued six years ago to his grandmother, the late Queen Elizabeth II, that Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor should be banished from royal life.
Starting point is 01:11:18 So for Republic to try and intellectually link, Prince William, our uncorrupted heir to the throne to Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, is going to fail because the facts do not match up. But here is what happened. And again, I just stress, this is a propaganda video, but I still want you to see it. This from Republic. How long have you known about Andrew? How long have you known about Andrew?
Starting point is 01:11:53 Spoil me. Spoil what? I'm just asking a question. It's a present, is it? Why you would want to ask him that question at this a couple of time? Why you're the only chance I get to speak? I've never had a first stick in before and I want it to make an answer. What are you looking at this?
Starting point is 01:12:12 A question. Oh, it's been answers all in general. You don't know. No, no, no. You don't want to give me your decision, so. No, you don't. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Okay, so I've got two things to say about that. Firstly, immediately, the police need to stop this overreach. That's embarrassing. We are a country that has free speech and the police should not be questioning members of the public who heckle members of the royal family. Can I just say that? And you know I'm a royalist and I'm a monochist and I thought that it was disrespectful. But really, the police have better things to do. That man was not violent. He did not pose a threat. He was a hard left propagandist for the Republic organisation, but he shouldn't have been questioned. So that's the first thing I would say. The second thing I would say is that isn't it such a shame that William didn't engage? Now, again, I know a lot of you will say that would have been the wrong thing to do. But I disagree because William is such a nice guy. And you saw that even once he was being heckled, he actually listened very closely and he said sorry and he looked up. So he was ready to engage in the conversation.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Clearly thought better of it. But it would have been so powerful. It would have been such a powerful moment for William to say, I knew nothing about that and I had nothing to do with it, but we are here today to mark Cornwall's National Day and that's what I'm going to do. Personally, I think that would have been powerful. But you did see the lovely side of William, didn't you? And he was disappointed because why on earth should his engagements continue to be overshadowed by his wayward uncle? Now, William very quickly showed why he is the secret weapon or the British royal family, why he is down to earth, and why once he is king, this modernisation project is going to step up again. Because visiting Gare Farm Pasty Company in Halston, he not only helped make the pasties, he took a phone order from a member of the public, who by the way, had absolutely no idea that she had. she was speaking to the future queen, King, sorry, and it led to this hilarious moment. What name is that? I just won't feel it.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Juicy. Josie. Sorry, Joseph. I've been focusing juicy. I apologize. We've got it, we've got it, then. The pasties will be juicy, you're right. We've got 15 passes named down here.
Starting point is 01:14:51 For 1.45. Five fresh food ones and ten fruits Bye bye Josie, bye You've got to admit that was a great moment William thought Josie was called Juicy
Starting point is 01:15:09 which would have been quite interesting and he was able to have a love and it was just a really feel good moment and actually Josie then did go to pick up her order from the Pasty Company and had no idea
Starting point is 01:15:23 that she was speaking to the future king. William and Catherine separated their efforts today. The Princess of Wales made a surprise appearance in Leicester, where she absolutely delighted members of the Hindu community before going to several family-run businesses on Leicester's famous Golden Mile. But again, it was the optics of this visit that really mattered. for a long time, people suggested that Catherine would never return to full-time royal duties after her cancer battle.
Starting point is 01:16:00 That has not turned out to be the case, and she is the jewel in the crown of the British royal family. Of course, things continue to get bad to worse for Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, and I will come to that very shortly. But first I want to bring Leo curse in on this. Leo, what do you make of this Republic organisation heckling the royals at every. public appearance. And do you think actually it may have been a moment where William could have naturally engaged with that man and said, what are you talking about? I knew nothing about this. I don't think engaging with them. They've obviously got an agenda that they want to push and, you know, fair play to them. I think they're voicing the concerns and the anger of a swath of the British public. So they should be allowed to do that. I'll hope it doesn't mean that the Royals.
Starting point is 01:16:52 pull back from meeting the public because that would be such a shame. I think the royals could handle this better perhaps using their Trump card, Wells and Kate. Wells and Kate are the saviors of the royal family.
Starting point is 01:17:12 And I think if Charles stood down, perhaps moved to another country to become a ruler there. I know Iran is looking for a new ruler these days. then possibly that could save, that could save the royal family. And Will's and Kate could step in. I mean, thank God they've got those, they've got Wells and Kate there to come in.
Starting point is 01:17:33 My daughter's just walked into the studio. Are you being very distracted right now? Yeah, she's wondering. She can't. She's not 25 or anything. She's three. Well, she can't hear this next bit though, Leo, because it's, it's. Oh, no, this is purely coming through here.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Good, good. because this is a little bit dark. Andrew Launy, the author of Entitled, suggesting that Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, is on suicide watch. A visitor to his temporary home at Sandringham at the weekend, the King's domestic chaplain. The headline is Confessed and he sins. The ex-Jute sees the Sandringham priest a few hours before the King. What's he confessing his sins, Andrew, do you think?
Starting point is 01:18:22 Or looking for divine inspiration of how to get out of the hole he made? Well, who knows? I mean, he may be finding religion now. I think it's just they've taken pity on him. I mean, no one else is visiting him, so I suppose the local Vicar should. Do you think that, genuinely I like your point, because we read about Fergie. She's in some wellness clinic talking about mental illness and everybody's out to get me. You've got to paint the picture of this guy sat on his own in Sandringham, and I'm going to ask the question that everybody will probably get upset about and you can dump it if you want.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I suspect there are many people who are feeling he's so ostracized he can't even go horse riding. Are they worried about his mental health and what he might do to himself? Well, that's been a message from the palace for a long time, even when my book came out in August that he was on suicide watch. I mean, everything I'm told from people close to him until very recently was that he still hasn't really sort of understood the seriousness of what he did and his position. He's more concerned about where he's going to park his car.
Starting point is 01:19:22 How do you feel Leo Kirste about whether there has been too much of a pile on Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor? And at the end of the day, we don't want another unaliving in this story, do we? I don't believe for a single moment that Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. I think he was taken out. But we don't want that, do we? because if Andrew were to be unalived as well, then there is no conclusion. There is no justice here.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Yeah, and it's something that's dogged this whole narrative, not just Jeffrey Epstein, but also Virginia Jewfrey. It's very tragic. And I think for somebody with an ego like Prince Andrew, it is at risk. For men, our status is so important. And not that I'm saying he doesn't deserve some sort of pile on, but I mean, the weight of public opprobrium on his shoulders, this is something that, you know, Japanese lords would, a Japanese lord would have done it by now. I don't know if he could if he could go into exile like so many other royals have done. I think the former Spanish royal is in Dubai.
Starting point is 01:20:48 I don't know if he's still in Dubai with what's going on there now. But I mean, you know, Andrew's probably used to that. He'd do quite well because he can't sweat. But I don't know if he can find an escape or if that would help the Royals. I just, I just, I can't see. I really do think that he's, you know, he's surrounded himself. He's quite a pompous man. He surrounded himself with yes men who tell him exactly what he wants to hear.
Starting point is 01:21:12 And he won't, you know, he'll fire anybody who doesn't tell him what he wants to hear. And so, you know, and that really. really came across in that Newsnight interview where he really, you could see that his idea of who he was and how he was presenting himself was so detached from the reality of what was happening. So now that it's all really coming down, the House of Cards is crashing down, he really could be a risk. But also, I don't think it should be used as a threat, you know, as in the police shouldn't pursue anything because, oh, he might, he might do something. That's the risk. You know, anybody who's pursued by the police is going to feel terrible. So that's, that's the risk he's taken. And some of the,
Starting point is 01:21:55 some of the things he's being, he's being pursued for around state secrets, around abusing his position as a trade envoy. Obviously, they're just allegations at the moment. But that's serious stuff. When I was at the foreign office, I had to sign the Official Secrets Act. And I had to, I had to, you know, agree to various protocols. And I knew it would be a big. deal if, you know, I shared any information with, you know, with a billionaire financier, regardless of, you know, what was going on at parties at Tropical Island. Yeah, what's interesting is that the Daily Telegraph is reporting today that because when Andrew actually took the job, things were so vague, it may actually be his get out of jail card, literally. Like, it's possible
Starting point is 01:22:40 that the misconduct in public office allegations will fall. It's damning, by the way, this in-depth feature by Gordon Rainer, the Associate Editor of the Telegraph. I just want to take you through some of the key moments. He writes, in his 10 years as trade envoy, Andrew costs the taxpayer almost 15 million pounds in travel expenses and police protection. In 2009 alone, he undertook 550 engagements as a trade envoy.
Starting point is 01:23:10 according to his own account, dubbed Air Miles Andy by the tabloids. He had a habit of tacking on visits to world-class golf courses, ski resorts and pleasure domes when he went abroad on official business. And he had an unfortunate habit of choosing the wrong friends. Andrew knew Epstein, who had stayed at his guest at Sandrine in December 2000. A deep dive into Andrew's friendship might have raised alarm bells, notwithstanding the fact that Epstein had not come under investigation at this stage. But as one diplomatic source says, there wasn't any due diligence done when he got the job, we had the Duke of Kent doing it, so it was just accepted that a member of the royal family would replace him. The appointment process was so vague, in fact, that there is a sense in Westminster
Starting point is 01:23:56 that it might be difficult for police forces now investigating him for misconduct in public office to prove that he was ever legally in a public office at all. The closest thing to a vetting process, it seems, was a warning from Andrew's older brother Charles that he was a disaster waiting to happen but his pleadings to the late Queen went unheeded. A source said we would get a lot of complaints about Andrew's behaviour at cocktail parties where he would ignore the main guests,
Starting point is 01:24:25 concentrate on the girls and leave early. We would get several a year. In fact, they probably covered most of his official visits. Ministers in the foreign office and the trade department were told about it and it was reported back to Buckingham Palace as well so people around the Queen would have known about it. The palace knew it was a problem for years, but it was seen as a problem that had to be managed. A typical example comes from a former royal aide who says there was a trip to China that the
Starting point is 01:24:48 Princess Royal Princess Anne did in 2005. And the last person that had gone there was Andrew. The staff at the British Embassy said what they needed her to do was repair all the damage he had done when he was there. His trip had been catastrophic. He has an exceptionally short temper that would go up and down again in the space of a few seconds. But the things that would annoy him would be ridiculous and pathetic.
Starting point is 01:25:09 There was one occasion in America when he saw Red and tore a strip off his private secretary about his travel arrangements in front of a group of people he had never met before. This was their one meeting with royalty. It was probably something they had been waiting six months for and he did that, but no one took him to task. He would call staff at 6am and scream down the phone at them
Starting point is 01:25:26 over something he had read in the papers, and he berated police officers calling one a Lardy C word when he refused a female friend of Andrew's entry to Buckingham Palace. One former royal aide recounted what happened when they did try and stand up to Andrew, saying I was in a car with him and I said to him, please don't bring your golf clubs on royal visits. He threw a pencil at my head and told me not to tell him what to do. Some ambassadors expressed surprise and Andrew insisted on staying in five-star hotels during his visit rather than staying at the ambassador's residence. It meant that his
Starting point is 01:25:58 retinue and police protection officers also had to stay at the same hotels at vast expense to the taxpayers. On one three-day trip in 2010 to the World Economic Forum, in Davos, he and four staff spent 19,200 pounds on males accommodation and entertaining dignitaries. In the same year, he ran up a 33,800 pound bill on an 11-day trip to the Middle East, and we now know that he charged the cost of his massages to the taxpayer. So Leo Kurs, I mean, quite damning examples, but the fundamental from that piece, though, is that it looks like he's probably going to get away with this. yeah if he wasn't an actual like official job if he didn't have an official job title how can you how can you discipline him he didn't have an HR department apart from his mom so yeah maybe maybe that'll be the way he gets away with that I don't know if there are other things that you could get away with I'm pretty sure he would have signed you know the official secrets act as a as a bare minimum I don't know what other NDAs he would have been he would have had to sign when he's when he's dealing with these things working in government
Starting point is 01:27:06 I did hear stories about how he behaved and how the Duchess of Pork, how his ex-wife, behaved as well. So, you know, when these people, the level of entitlement is just insane, you know, bearing in mind, you know, they haven't really achieved anything. All they've done is, you know, being born through the right pelvis. And, you know, in her case, she married the right guy or the wrong guy, as it turned out. And the level of entitlement, they grow to achieve is just insane. her rider, her request for a hotel room when she, when she'd go to travel somewhere,
Starting point is 01:27:42 you know, the bathroom had to be set up a certain way, had to have all these specific ointments and gels and, you know, fancy things in it. It's not like me at the travel lodge, you know, with the little sashi of a shampoo like a ketchup. I don't want to know what's on your rider, Leo. No, very good point, very good point. Look, do stand by because we're about to reveal today's union jackass and greatest Britain. But first, some feedback. coming in. Trish 4977 says celebrating the enemy within as we become the next Iran and our leaders sit and watch. Polly Hobo Hunter says young Bob has never shown any aggression against anyone no matter how vile they were. Shrock Meg says as an American, I have known for a long while citizens have
Starting point is 01:28:25 wanted Stammer out because of this issue. This will destroy the UK economy as far as visitors ever coming. This is in terms of the Islamist takeover. And Laura Gonzalez says we must all wake up to this threat to all Western civilization, Islam wants to destroy us. Okay, a reminder of today's union jackass nominees. I nominated Nina Mishkoff for calling Adam Brooks a member of the Taliban. And Lindsay Hoyle for dancing introducing Strictly Come Dancing at Parliament. Leo Curse went a little more niche, but I absolutely love the reason why. This is Jane Mia for her response to the knife attacker who said that actually it was
Starting point is 01:29:05 all just proof that our strength lies in diversity. 15% of you voted for Jane Mear. Sorry, Leo. So I was the runner-up and the winner today, and it was close. Lindsay Hoyle got 42% of the vote. But today's Union Jackass, Nina Mischoff, with 44% of the vote, which means that she goes head to head with Zach Polanski from Wednesday, Hannah Spencer from Tuesday and Rachel Reeves from Monday as to who is going to be named this week's worst Britain in the world. You can get voting after this live show in the posts tab on YouTube. But Leo, you're nominating Ross Kemp to be today's greatest Britain. Why? So, Ross Kemp, in the wake of adolescence, remember the Netflix drama that was actually
Starting point is 01:29:58 touted as a documentary in Parliament? I think here Starming. I think, Here, Star, called it a documentary. And it's about how the greatest threat to Western society is white teenage boys, in cells. And so he'd heard about the threat of incels and how awful they are. So he decided to do one of his shows investigating in cell culture, as he does when he investigates gangs or goes to a war zone. And there's an amazing interview where he basically realizes that incels aren't really
Starting point is 01:30:26 much of a problem at all. They're not like this source of radicalization. They're in no way comparable to Islamism or something like that. And the penny drops for him and I just can't wait to watch the whole show and see what he's got to say. Oh, good. I've been seeing people posting on this actually, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
Starting point is 01:30:47 So that looks very interesting. Leo Curse, the brilliant social commentator and comedian. Thank you so much and do make sure you subscribe to Leo Curse on YouTube. Thank you for your company today. We're moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled After Show. Lady Colin Campbell is standing by. So at this stage we move off YouTube and we head to www. outspoken.
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