Dan Wootton Outspoken - MSM COVER UP ISLAMIST LEFT PLOT TO TAKE OVER UK AS AFGHAN MIGRANT SEIZED FOR TRIPLE STABBING

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

An Afghan migrant arrested for a deadly triple stabbing in London last night as our patience runs outs. There is now an Islamo left plot to take over the United Kingdom and the elite class and MSM intend to look away. But in the Islamist media, the intention has now been made abundantly clear. There’s no doubt what is going on and only Nigel Farage has been brave enough amongst our major party leaders to call it out, as his channel GB News broadcasts disgusting slurs about UKIP leader Nick Tenconi. Indeed, our regime media have ignored the civil war on the streets of East London altogether to focus on an entirely confected race outrage about the Reform UK Sarah Pochin. In his Digest, Dan will call out the traitors for fiddling while Rome burns. Then Carol McGiffin is back on Outspoken! PLUS: Tommy Robinson destroys Rory Stewart after The Rest is Politics host makes a series of unfounded claims on Newsnight. AND: The Mike Graham crisis at Talk TV grows as The Sun withdraws its plans to take over the station. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No spent, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 345. And breaking today, an Afghan migrant arrested for a deadly triple stabbing in London last night as our patience runs out. Meanwhile, they've said the quiet part out loud. There is now an Islam-left plot to take over the United Kingdom. And the elite class and the MSM, let me tell you, they intend to look away. But in the Islamist media, that intention has now been made abundantly clear. Watch. Al-Assal-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-h. We're here to interview some people.

So I've asked some questions, brother. Yeah, yeah. All right. What message do you want to give to the far-right people? The message I want to give to the far-right people is we're here to take over your country. You can't stop us. You can try, but we're here to uphold Sharia law. And, yeah, that's it.

So there's no doubt what's going on. And only Nigel Farage has been brave enough amongst our major party leaders to call it out, even as his channel, GB News, broadcasts disgusting slurs about the UKIP leader Nick Tenconi. Large numbers of men, mostly young men, all men, no women, wearing a black style uniform, many with face masks, marching almost like an army, aggressively. through the streets of East London. The guy that is the leader of UKIP has repeatedly done Nazi salutes on the streets

and seems to revel in doing so. He is a religious fanatic. And so I think they may well have had the intention to try and rile up tensions in Tower Hamlet. Indeed, our raging media has ignored the Civil War on the streets of East London altogether to focus on an entirely confected race outrage surrounding the Reform UK MP Sarah Pochin.

But it is very helpful for him, for the party, to have somebody that is pushing at the door of racism the whole time, pushing at the door of, you know, multi-ethnicity, pushing at the door of sort of deportation and all that kind of stuff. Because this is how they work out where the public mood is. You know, she is their canary. So that's not just a racist comment. It's a comment of unimpeachable stupidity. You're thick, you're racist and you're weird. Because it drives her mad to see black and Asian people in an advert, that's what she said.

What I think should happen now is that Nigel Farage was right not to take the whip away as Labour demanded. What I do think Sarah should do is go on one of the courses that exists over in the House of Commons. That comment is absolutely a racist comment. And if we cannot call that comment out in this house, that is in breach of the north. Nolan principles for MPs. Okay, I just want to show you the panel on today's loose women on woke ITV today. So can you really tell me that Sarah Pochin doesn't have a point? In my digest next, I'll call out these traitors for fiddling while Rome burns.

Then she used to be a loose woman. Actually, before that show went horrendously won. But now she can be loose and unleashed because Carol McGiffon is back on Outspoken today. So excited about that. Also coming up on the show, Tommy Robinson destroys Rory Stewart after the rest as politics hosts makes a series of unfounded claims on news night. The Mike Graham crisis at Talk TV grows as he calls in high-powered lawyers with insiders saying a decision about his future will be made within days. I'll tell you the latest. And the loose women bullying row as well.

K Adams is in the spotlight, but the broadcaster is fighting back against the woke claims, and Carol McGiffin has a very interesting insight into that. We'll bring you it later in the show. Then on the uncanceled after show, which is over on Substack, Prince Harry and Megan Markle, purposefully unveiled the faces of their children, Archie and Lily, on social media, and then claim they didn't mean to, so I know what's going on here and I'm going to expose it all with our Royal Mastermind, Angela Levin. You can sign up to watch at www. Of course, we'll also be revealing the worst Britain in the world today. That's our union jack as you can vote in the live chat on YouTube and here are your nominees today.

Dawn Butler, we just saw her, didn't we? nominated by Darren Donaldson for calling Sarah Poachan a racist in parliament. Previously, she accused Kemi Badenok of representing white supremacy and black face. Sadiq Khan, nominated by It's Only Me 44. Now, the reason it's Only Me 44 has nominated Sadiq Khan is for inviting trans people to events to help those going through. menopause, although I'd say the cover-up of the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs is a pretty good reason too. And Jess Phillips, nominated by Blame Game, who says she's gone into hiding after her dire performance last week, or are they hoping we'll all just forget about the grooming

gang inquiry? Now, I think they are hoping that, actually. It's not going to work, though. So three labour choices again, there's a theme this week, isn't there? Let me know your comments as well. I'll read out the best and reveal the winners of our greatest British and Union Jackass at the end of the show. But now, Let's go. They are laughing at us, literally laughing and gefforing in our faces. We saw it with calamity lammy yesterday as they destroy the last vestiges of what made the United Kingdom the greatest place on earth. The Deputy Prime Minister's reaction to his department's total incomprehensive.

which saw infamous child sex offender Habush Kaboto, the man who caused the epit outrage free on the streets of London, was sickening. But it's not a surprise. They are metaphorically laughing in our face and spitting on our countryman's graves every single damn day. So last night, a 22-year-old Afghan migrant stabbed three people including, according to eyewitnesses, a dog walker in Uxbridge, London

leaving a 48-year-old dead and two others with life-changing injuries. How long are we going to put up with this? How long? This eyewitness, Ben James, summed up the feelings of many. The property of Afghan descent

coming out of the HMO property. I know someone on the road, like I said, there was quite large shouting and screaming, but when I got to the scene, all I saw was piles of blood. And obviously, I mean, it must have been very traumatic to see injured people lying in the street.

It's horrible, but it's what we're getting used to around here. It's happening far too much, and the government needs to put an end to it. And, I mean, in terms of this local area, you live locally to see this kind of really horrific event unfolding in the local area as well.

I mean, obviously, it's got to be distressing. It's very distressing, but what's worse about it? It's not becoming shocking no more. It's like becoming the norm. And that's what's really terrifying. If this happened five, six years ago, everyone would be screaming and be uproar, but now it's just becoming like the normal.

And that's what's scary about it, really scary. It is, but we cannot let it be normal. We cannot normalize this. One of those stabbed was a 14-year-old. Let that sink in, get angry. and never let those laughing in our face like David Lammy forget. But this all gets worse, of course, because there is now quite clearly an Islamo-left plot

to take over the United Kingdom and the elite class and the MSM intend to look away. But in the Islamist media, that intention is now being made abundantly clear, and unapologetically too. Al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a We're here to interview some people. So I've asked some questions, brother.

Yeah, yeah. message do you want to give to the far right people? The message I want to give to the far right people is we're here to take over your country. You can't stop us. You can try, but we're here to uphold Sharia law and yeah, that's it. You can't stop us. You can try, but we're here to impose Sharia law. That was one of the men taking part in the scenes that we saw on the streets of East London this weekend.

God be it Allah is Abduber Nara Tadmi I'm gonna al-ah al-a-a-lis-lid Nohila

La-a-Lah Allah I'm Allah Allahi-Lah Allah As king of Allah, Al-Iman put it. Are you terrified? You should be. We are. According to some councils, this government and the deranged left, we, referring to the pink ladies are the problem. The Islamists, of course, made it clear, but not on the same side as the woke, wet, lefty, lovies who are engaging in suicidal empathy.

There's no need to that. We're on the side, bro. Yes, we are, bro. Arja, the Empress, raged a mob of men in black blocks and balaclavas waving foreign flags, It's marching through my city, the capital of the UK, with not a single police officer inside. How can anyone be okay with this? I'm not, not even close. This isn't protest, it's intimidation. It's a warning shot right in the heart of our capital, while those meant to uphold order, stand by and do nothing. And if you think this is fine, you're fooling yourself. This isn't harmless.

It's a show of dominance, a takeover right before our eyes. And my friend, former GV News colleague Colin Brazier, newly of Reform UK, argued, when the vulcanisation of Britain means some of our cities become essentially ungovernable, people will ask, where are the warnings? Where were the warnings? The reality is that there are grim punctuation marks in our island story that are routinely ignored by our establishment reform calls them out. And in fairness, Nigel Farage,

has been the only one braver enough amongst our party leaders in Westminster to call out those scenes at the weekend watch. An extremism in Britain. Think about this. Last Saturday, a march was planned, an anti-Islamic extremism. March was planned.

Have a look at what happened in response. Here we see large numbers. of men, mostly young men, all men, no women, wearing a black style uniform, many with face masks, marching almost like an army aggressively through the streets of East London. I think these are some of the most frightening scenes I've ever seen in this country. And I say that particularly, because every calm day, we had a lot more young men of fighting age, coming in into our country who've thrown away their documents so we've no idea who they really are. But here's the really interesting bit.

Joining them on the demo were the hard left stand up to racism group. And have a look at this exchange. There's no need to that. We're on the side, bro. No, we're not. Yes, we are both. Group. No, I'm not. We're not.

And this is the point. Some of the left in this country, and we're not, and this is the point, some of the left in this country, I've got this nutty idea that those that are moving towards, hardline, Islamic extremism, are on the same side as they are, and they're not. What they were chanting, what the group of men in black were chanting, was strong anti-Zionist, very clearly anti-Jewish, praising their own martyrs, but which they mean those engaged in war against Jews and the Israelis.

It was outright racism on the streets of London. The protest against extremism is banned, and yet those that march in response display open racism and open extremism, and the police do absolutely nothing. That folks is two-tier Britain. That folks is the scary situation that we're in, and we all need to wake up to the truth. And while I support what Nigel said there,

Sadly, the channel in which he is a shareholder, G.B. News, continuously lets itself down by letting hard leftists make revolting slurs against patriots like UKIP leader Nick Tenconi. Watch. What UKIP is today bears little resemblance to the party Farage led. The guy that is the leader of UKIP has repeatedly done Nazi salutes on the streets and seems to revel in doing so. He is a religious fanatic. they may well have had the intention to try and rile up tensions in Tower Hamlets. And therefore, I think it's probably legitimate to say that that's not a fair protest. Do you think it might have been more or less of a religious fanatic than some of the other champs that we saw out there on the street? Well, this is actually my point, right? You know, those people would appear to be Islamists. They're certainly dressed like thugs.

They're trying to intimidate people. And so I don't think multiculturalism has failed, but we're failing the success of modern Britain by presenting either those intimidating thugs or the religious bigoted fanatics that are now in charge of UKIP. Neither of those are in the spirit of Britain. Has absolutely failed. It was a grave mistake that has destroyed social cohesion.

Nick has never given a Nazi salute and he behaved completely appropriately at the weekend. Indeed, it was an or indecor who defied the police. I want her arrested. She is a member of stand-up to racism and she is in the exclusion zone. Loving the attention of the race griff, but Nick isn't taking it lying down, writing, Benjamin Butterworth just added his name to the long list of screw-ups who will be getting sued for me for definition.

I have never done a Nazi salute. How dare you? A closed-fist gesture is not a Nazi salute. So Black Lives Matter protesters are all Nazis, are they? Calling Catholics, religious bigoted fanatics for being developed followers of Christ is absolutely disgraceful. You will learn the hard way it would seem. But what's clear is that even those who don't support UKIP's hardline approach like Brendan O'Neill have spiked online, for example, concede that the Islamo left is now on the march in Britain. He wrote the protest in Whitechapel exposed the suicidal idiocy of leftists who cozy up to Islamism. The anti-UKIP counter-demo in Whitechap was not an anti-racism march. know it. The dogs on the street know it. It was an orgy of intolerance, doled up as tolerance.

It was a display of Islamist arrogance wearing the thin veil of anti-racism to fall over-educated idiots. The left is marching with its own grave diggers with people who would happily outlaw homosexuality and condemn women to a benighted life in misogynist garments. What could possibly unite the blue hairs of the middle class lift with these black masked Islamists? That's the truly chilling question. But what's my shocking to me? Is that the left have completely ignored pretty much the start of civil war in East London

to focus on one line, one line from Sarah Poachin who was making a point about the woke, diversity obsessed advertising industry in the UK, which we all know is a real thing, right? It drives me mad when I see adverts full of black people, full of Asian people, full of, you know,

people that basically are, What's wrong with that, Sarah? What's wrong with that? Well, it doesn't reflect our society. And I feel that, you know, your average white person, average white family is, like, I agree with you, Stuart, not represented anymore in TV advertising. There are lots of white people on television, Sarah, or they're not? There are lots of white people. There are lots of white men, there are lots of white women.

We're talking about adverts and how many times do you look at a TV advert and you think there's not a single white person on it? So today, James O'Brien, that curtain, was totally happening. happy to bully poachin while ignoring the very real race war going on just miles from his cosy LBC studio. This hideous woman complaining about the number of brown and black faces in television advertisements. In a country where, what, 30 years ago, you'd never see one. No one really seems to have made that point. No one really seems to have made the point that if you have any knowledge at all of how the advertising industry works, the idea that people would be sitting around a table on whatever the British equivalent of Madison Avenue is,

and deliberately deciding to sell less product by putting people of colour in their adverse. It is one of the most ruthless and cynical industries on the planet. The attention economy, which in many ways pays my mortgage, is designed to shift as much stuff as is humanly possible. So that's not just a racist comment. It's a comment of unimpeachable stupidity. You're thick, you're racist, and you're weird.

And I don't know what order to put that in. Don't underestimate the power of weird or the power of stupid. It's a hat trick of horrors. Racist, stupid, weird. The increasingly mad Nigel Nelson was dragged out by G.B. News to suggest poachin had to be re-engineered by the state. That's the issue. Well, I don't know if she does.

She says it drives her mad. It drives her mad seeing adverts of that nature. We don't know if she was saying it. drives her mad that the people are black, or it drives her mad that the adverse, the direct quote was, it drives me mad when I see adverts full of black people, full of Asian people. Now, you can interpret that as being racist, or you could say it drives me mad that adverts don't reflect reality, which they clearly don't. Well, I mean, in Sarah's case, that clearly, well, in my mind, that is clearly a racist

comment. Not, not that Sarah is racist, because it drives her mad to see black and Asian people in an advert, that's what she said. What I think should happen now is that Nigel Farage was right not to take the whip away as Labor demanded. What I do think Sarah should do is go on

one of the courses that exists over in the House of Commons. Oh, right. Well, she goes away from reprogramming. Go to the woke gulag. I mean, come off it. I've met a number of MPs who reluctantly went on these courses, came back and said,

but that was actually quite reasonable. He did the worst racism in Parliament. is Sarah Pochin talking about TV ads or some of the racism we see from some of the more fruity backbenchers around anti-Semitism, about Tel Aviv football fans, about signing petitions to keep Jews out of Britain? Is this really the correct focus for racism and politics? Or it's just a smoke screen, a distraction? I think that given that she apologised for her words afterwards, she obviously regrets them. She blurted them out. It wouldn't do any harm to go and

of these courses, so she doesn't do it again. For God's sake. Race beta and Chief, Dawn Butler, kept calling Sarah Poachan racist in Parliament. This is an anti-white racist, sparking fury from the Deputy Speaker. That comment is absolutely a racist comment. And if we cannot call that comment out in this House, that is in breach of the Nolan-Prin.

for MPs. And I want to know, Madam Deputy Speaker, if you can help me in ensuring that order, for clarity's sake, it's the calling of a member of this House a racist. It drives me mad when I see adverts full of black people and full of Asian people. It doesn't reflect society. Madam Deputy Speaker, that is a racist comment. And it is against the Nolan principles and how can we ensure that members are ordered by the Nolan principles?

It's not the comment that the Honourable Member is referring to. It's the fact that she called the member a racist that is the issue. If you can please reflect on your remarks of calling, a member of this House a racist and stick to the comments being a racist. It may be that she considers that that is dancing on the pin of her head. But it's important that we all act with respect and set an example to the country. The comment is a racist comment.

It's quite strange that I'm unable to call out the member for being a racist, having made a racist comment. Order, it's time and time again, can you please consider with withdrawn, withdrawing the comment about a member of this House being a racist. I don't want to be thrown out of Parliament again. So, I will withdraw the fact that I am referring to the Member of Parliament as a racist because of a racist comments. Oh my God, it's all a game. It's all a game. Emily Maitliss, she's going mad, by the way, of the first. fake newsagents even said this was all part of a reform UK.

Sarah Pochin does something very useful for reform, actually. And I didn't think I'd be saying this two days ago. But the fact that they sort of keep letting her go out there. She was the one that did the Berkus should be banned statement the first time. She's the only female reform MP. And she sort of gets out there, says something pretty ludicrous, which reform then carefully distances themselves from. In other words, oh, she might say that,

but that's not where the party is. The party is here. The party is, you know, I think Farage is very aware that he doesn't want to be sort of in the Berker chat. He doesn't want to be in the racist chat. He doesn't want to be sort of in the outliers chat. He wants to try and make reform look as if it's mainstream. But it is very helpful for him, for the party,

to have somebody that is pushing at the door of racism the whole time, pushing at the door of, you know, multi-ethnicity, pushing at the door of sort of deportation and all that kind of stuff because this is how they work out where the public mood is. You know, she is their canary. She's sent out or she leaps out and she goes much further than reform would ever do on the day. But maybe she opens the door

and maybe people start catching up and maybe before you know it, you've got somebody else, you know, jumping on the British adverts bandwagon. She's done the job for them. Oh, my God. Oh, she's certifiable. Perhaps it's Nick Dixon, who put it best, actually, by writing, we are in a battle for our very survival

against various forces hell bent on destroying us. While these twerps think the problem is Sarah Pochin's remarks. It's like Tony Montana sat with his mountain of coke while the assassins are at. door. Aunt Middleton, by the way, who is Sadiq Khan's biggest threat at the next London Merrill election, put it this way. Why are we not allowed to be proud of our white heritage, to preserve and to protect it, just as all other cultures are encouraged to do theirs? Our white heritage is not a part of British culture, which has been over time eradicated

from our history. It went way before my generation, and now they're doing the same with our faith and religious beliefs. If you can't see the death by a thousand cut strategy here, then you are either turning a blind eye or care not for your country and its heritage and history. I love that our countries, that other countries and cultures are really proud of their heritage and history. More power to them. Preserve it at all costs. However, never lose sight and be proud of your white heritage, culture and history. Never allow entitled victim mentality individuals to take that from you. I'm a proud white Englishman. My ancestors fought and died for your right to vote. I encouraged you to dig up photos from World War I and World War II of British troops

and something will become very apparent. And this is why the response from Nigel Farage to Sarah Pochin, it really did disappoint me. The words that Sarah Pochin used in response to a caller in a talk radio on Saturday morning were without ugly. and taken, taken on their own, could be read to be very, very unpleasant indeed. I am unhappy with what she has done. I can't underestimate that and she fully knows how I feel. The way she put it, the way she worded it was wrong and was ugly. As Rupert Lowe responded, Sarah Pochin had a point.

White people are massively underrepresented right across society, very much including the advertising industry, Could she have worded it better? Yes, obviously. But Farage was wrong to throw her under the bus for it. A good leader supports their team, even in difficult times. The media focus on this over the past few days has been insane. Don't submit to the mob. Certainly don't throw a colleague to the wolves to satisfy the pack. It will never work. And by the way, even Grok admits that Sarah Pochin was right. So yeah, Grock, right? Said yes. Sarah Poachian, correctly highlighted disproportionate representation in UK ads where black people appear in over 50%

despite comprising 4% of the population. And the terrible things that are going on, and have been going on, by the way, for the past five years, are starting to be exposed. Andrew Murtha revealed some of the Lentz woke companies like Sky GoTo in their bid to mainstream anti-white racism. He said, I can 100% say, I was told to photo. shop out white people while working for Sky and replace them with people of colour. Whether or not she should apologise, it's up to her, but white people are being removed from the mainstream media, because I've been told to do it. And I think this exchange between Larry the Cat, right, which is our hard leftist ex-account,

and Jess Gill sums things up well, because Larry the cat said the purpose of adverts isn't to accurately reflect society, it's to sell things. That's not what they've been telling us, right, for the past. decades, so Jess Gill said for years, they've been non-stop complaining about the lack of diversity and representation on TV. Now they've won, they're gaslighting us, saying it doesn't matter. British ads should have British people. We're fed up of being pushed aside and ignored in our own country. Now, Carol McGiffin is here. Wow, McGiff. So, this break.

Breaking news, another Afghan migrant murder could have been a lot worse. Three stabbed, a horrifying scene emerging in Uxbridge. And yet the mainstream media don't want to talk about that. They don't want to talk about the Islamo protests, if that's what we're going to call them. I'd say a declaration of war. But they want to talk about Sarah Poach. Of course they do. It is. It's supreme gaslighting, isn't it? It's like this is what's important now. The fact that someone has pointed out that recently, not just recently, I'd say over the last four or five years, it's been noticeable that there are people of colour. Don't want to get into trouble. Do I dad? People of colour in TV advertisements. And it's noticeable. And it's not like it's not like it actually bothers me.

too much, it just, I asked, I have to ask the question, why? Why? Why is it necessary? What pressure are the advertising companies bowing to? I mean, they're not, I'm sure they're not doing it because it's going to sell more things because there are probably people all over the country that watch the adverts and go, not again, because it does happen like that. But that's what the media want you to think is more important than someone getting stabbed on the street. Well, three people getting stabbed on the street in London. And it's just a man, by the way. It's just a man, Carol.

I was looking earlier at Sly News. And it's not an Afghan migrant. It's just a 22-year-old man. So there's so much gaslighting that goes on. Yeah, well, exactly. Because if it had been a white man who had stabbed someone in Uxbridge, they would certainly let you know about that. Oh, God forbid an incel.

And in cell, that'd be all over it, like a rash. Exactly. But it's not when it's the other way around. And that poor guy was being interviewed. It's, you know, that's what's frightening because the left and the media will tell you that this doesn't happen a lot. But it actually does. And that guy is saying, you know, six years ago, people would have been up in arms. This would have been a really big story.

But it's not a big story anymore because it happens so often. And it is kind of, it can't possibly be. normalised, but it's just doesn't shock anybody anymore because it happens so often. You read about it all the time. And then you get Sadiq Khan standing up and saying, you know, we've reduced knife crime,

we've done this, the crime levels are down in London. It's like, I mean, really, it is laughable, but it's not funny. Well, he also said there were no grooming gangs, didn't he? No Pakistani rape gangs in London. The Met Police have just reopened nine thousand cases. So he is a liar. And I want to know what you think about those scenes in London over the weekend. Because even though I criticised Nigel Farage for turning on Sarah Pochin,

I loved the fact that he was the only mainstream party leader to actually describe this as what I believe it is, Carol, which is an invading army. And I mean, we heard the guy right in the Islamist media in the digest who said very clearly, you know, we're here to take over. Shari, a law is coming, whether you like it or not. Yeah, the question to that guy was, what would you say to all the far right extremists? I guess he means you and me. Where are they? They're all in prison, aren't they?

For saying things that like Sarah Pochin said. It's, none of it makes sense at all. And I have no doubt that there are a lot of Islamists, radical Islamists, especially, who would love to take over the UK and introduce Sharia law and wipe out the entire Jewish nation and all the Jews along with it. I mean, I do believe there are those people. I don't believe the majority of the Muslims in the UK are thinking along those lines. But the fact that they don't speak out against it is,

you know, it's another telling thing, and it does make you wonder, when they talk about the Great Replacement, it is something that I think is happening. And this is what, I wonder how many of those people in that march, they were all masks, they were all wearing similar outfits,

all got those very well-organized banners and flags and everything else. How many of those did come over on the boats? How many of them are illegal immigrants? I wonder, because I've said to you for years now, it is the government who are the traffickers. They're the people traffickers.

They're the criminal gangs. They're allowing this. They're facilitating this. And I wouldn't be surprised if they're paying for it to happen. Well, how can we deny that now? How can we deny that now, Carol? Because it feels to me like they're importing their voters. They're importing the people who they want to keep them in power.

But again, I think that's delusional. of course, because if you look at the Labor Party, they are now being outflanked by the Islamists on the very hard left. So it's a suicidal empathy going on. But by the way, I'm glad you didn't say the great replacement theory. Because you know for many years, Carol, if you dared talk about this, you were definitely on the far right, right? You know, you were in prison. But it's not a theory. You know, it's not a theory. It's just a demographic fact. It's just an absolute demographic fact of the United Kingdom. So yeah, just call it the great replacement. Great. I mean, I'm happy with that because this is no longer a theory. It is happening. If people tell you

it's not happening, then they're actually not speaking about a demographic reality. It's not a political point. No, I don't, and I don't think it's really about importing voters either. I think it's, I think it's. What do you think it is? I think it's the provocation that goes on towards the native, I suppose, the white population, the English people, even parties like reform, you know, who weren't allowed to march and protest in Whitechapel, but then they allowed this mob to roam the streets. It's almost like they're trying to,

I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to engineer a civil war in order to introduce way more draconian measures because that's what they do. It's problem reaction solution again. It's like, let's make this happen so that we can clamp down. Well, Stalin's already doing it with digital ID. What digital ID? And don't forget, I think it was after the United Kingdom rally that you were at.

And Tommy Robinson was at that famous super far right racist thug. God, anyone else says that? I'm just going to lamp them. And it was straight after that, And they blatantly said, without laughing, 26 people were arrested, 26. And the march before that, which was a pro-Palestinian march, there were hundreds, apparently. And it's like, you know, this 26, 26 people, some of those people were on the opposing side and quite a large proportion, I understand. Yes, and they only clarified that later.

Yeah, and the Home Secretary afterwards straight away says We've got to clamp down on these repeating marches And it's every week you see pro-Palestinian anti-Jewish marches Going on in the streets of London So which they don't want to clamp down on those marches They want to clamp down on the ones that are disagreeing with the government You know, the ones that you or I might attend The UK rallies

I mean they will do it they will do it. They'll find a way to do it because that's the only way they get to control the population and the reason for doing that. No one really knows why they want to do that or they're held bent on doing it. But it must have something to do with the financial system. We all know that that's in trouble and there's going to be a collapse soon. And when people can't get their money, there's going to be, I mean, it's just going to be chaos. And they will need an army on the streets to control people and I know

I might sound like I'm mad and overthinking all of this but when you look at stuff and you can see it with your own eyes and you can hear things with your own ears and you know what George Orwell said the last, the final command

in 1984 was ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears and it was their final most important command or something like that and that's exactly what they're trying to tell you to do. But if you really open your eyes and you really listen to what people are saying, you have to ask the questions. Why would they be doing that? Why do they let those small boats turn up every day? Why do they take them to hotels? Why do they send the R&LI and the Navy

into fish them out of the sea in the boats? Why do they do that? They could stop it tomorrow. They could just say, no, we're not going to let you in and tow them back to France. It's France. Anyway, It's France like everybody keeps saying. It doesn't, none of it makes sense, Dan. And that's why I sit there thinking there must be a reason for it. And it's either the civil war so they can introduce new measures or they're recruiting an army to control the population when chaos ensues. Well, I was going to say, or something even more terrifying.

Of course, what is, I'd say what's the most depressing thing is that the elite class in the mainstream media, are so determined to ignore what's really going on that they intend to not only prescribe Tommy Robinson as a terrorist, but completely lie about his motivation. And there are no two worst human beings in that space than Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell, right? Can we all agree on that, right?

They are the two worst in this space, and there's some real competition. But Tommy Robinson has totally destroyed. Rory Stewart over his appearance on Newsnight, writing this mealy-mouthed, pretentious silver spoon-fed, out-of-touch Tory boy academic Rory Stewart has Muslim friends who openly admit apostates from the Islamic faith should be murdered. And I'm the so-called far-right Nazi and extremist for daring to speak openly and honestly about Islam. Weak men make for hard times. Rory Stewart is an apologist for backward Islam. He's a proponent of the nonsense word Islamophobia. He's also an extremely weak man ideologically, academically, politically, politically,

and physically. We don't need leaders like this in the UK. Now, this is what Rory Stewart had to say that sparked that reaction. I think there's some very good reasons for people to be angry. I think Britain feels broken to a lot of people. But I also feel that that isn't a reason to go with Tommy Robinson. I think there's a way of saying a lot of things aren't working, but to still think the government may be incompetent, may sometimes seem overly politically correct, focused

on the wrong issues, but that's not a reason to embrace a convicted criminal with what what I see is very, very dangerous views. And this is something that I, conversations with with my friends in the US, more and more people are now being sort of Trump curious. And when I say why, they say, well, all these things are wrong. Look at all these things the Democrats did, nobody's listening to us. Sure, but this isn't the solution. Going for this more and more extreme and increasingly people getting impatient with the rule,

being impatient with anybody talking about process, anybody talking about doing things properly. Everyone wants instant answers. And if you push for instant answers, you end up with something, yeah, that becomes like fascism, because it becomes about power. I'm going to sort this. And then everybody says, well, I like that person because they've sorted this. And when you say, well, how did they sort this? If I'm talking about Trump, how about the corruption?

How about what he's doing to the courts? How about it? People are saying, well, I don't mind about that. He's getting it done. So somewhere in this conversation, yes, of course, people have got every reason to be angry with people like we. Partly because we're in a very unequal society, very, very unequal society in which there's a lot of privilege and a lot of wealth and a lot of things that particularly many, many white communities

in Britain can't access. But that's also true for many minority ethnic communities. in Britain. It's not a just society, but that's not a reason to go with the extremes, I think. Well, you just went with the extreme. You just accused Tommy Robinson of fascism. As Leo Kirst said, the idea that Tommy Robinson is a fascist is laughable. He's anti-authoritarian and isn't trying to create an ethno state. Tommy's movement is probably the most positive outlet for the understandable and necessary rise in nativist sentiment in Britain. And then, of course, Alistair Campbell. That war criminal involved. And he said his name is Stephen. Hashtag never trust a name changer unless they're

trans or spooks. Ah, there's a thought. Tommy owned him, though. Not today's Satan. Take my name out of your filthy mouth, you filthy war criminal. Be careful, I mean, the idea that Rory Stewart goes on news night with all that's going on, completely unprompted. And by the way, without any pushback from the presenter because, of course, it's completely acceptable to go on the BBC and describe Tommy Robinson as a fascist, someone responsible for importing fascism to the UK.

That's his priority. Again, it's completely warped. It's, you know what? Doing your show, you forced me to watch people like James O'Brien, you forced me to watch people like Warren Stewart. And it just, they just make my blood boil. It's, it's so.

pathetic that they use Tommy Robinson as a target as a whipping boy for absolutely everything. Yeah, and the weird thing is, if you say to someone who goes, yeah, but you know, Tommy Robinson is racist and you say to them, well, just

tell me one racist thing he's ever said. And he hasn't. You can't think of anything. You can't find anything. But it's just this, this, they just repeat it nonstop because then everybody goes, yeah, Tommy Robinson is a racist, but no one really bothers to find out for themselves what he's really

going on about. You know, there are a lot of people in the media who are completely, they're judged so incorrectly because nobody actually listens to what they're saying. And not just the media and in the world, world leaders, some world leaders that are demonised and removed, replaced with puppets. They're always saying the right things, but everybody, Everyone just assumes that because someone says, oh, no, they were a racist and want to, you know, kill all migrants, which they don't. It's the same with Tommy Robinson. And the poor bloke, I mean, he's done so much good over the years, especially for the rape gangs and all of that. He's, and he's tucked in prison every five bloody minutes, or he's in court.

And people like Rory Stewart just sit there, you know, oh, it's so pathetic, Rory Rory. I can't, I can't ever forget the time, although I've kind of forgotten what he actually said, but he was in Parliament and they were talking about some war that might ensue or something like that. And I remember he sat there and said something like, well, we'll just tell them to go away or something like that. I mean, it was just pathetic. I mean, why was this man ever in parliament? Is he in Parliament still? No, I don't think he is just a media, just a media whore. He's a media whore. But this is the problem. It's people like him who destroyed the conservative party because, of course, he was only a conservative and name only. He's basically

agreeing now. I mean, that is how hard left he is. But in this country, we were gaslit into believing that Rory Stewart represented real conservatism, which was obviously like a total joke. But of course, Carol, we know what they're trying to do with Tommy Robinson. And there is this huge moment coming on Tuesday morning. We're going to be coming. covering it live on outspoken because this is potentially the British government being able to say forevermore if Tommy Robinson has found guilty in this completely spurious terror trial, you know, that he's a terrorist. And then forevermore, that will be how the deep state and the mainstream media are able to dismiss him. Oh, he's a terrorist. Just like now, they say,

oh, he's a criminal. You know, it's sick. It is sick. And these are the kind of of laws. They were used Tommy Robinson as a precedent as for anybody else who refuses to give them the code for their phone and reveal their sources. And once you're... For no reason, Carol, he was suspected nothing. You know, he just turned up at the border. He was traveling to Spain where he lives. You know, he had cash because he's debanked in the United Kingdom. Like... Exactly. I'm sorry. If they, if I just went up to a checkpoint and given the journalistic sources on my phone. Should I just have to give my phone up for absolutely no reason whatsoever? No suspicion of anything? And if I don't, I'm a terrorist. I think you do now.

I think I think that is allowed now. I think that is a law that's already been put into place. And, you know, that could happen to you. It could happen to me. Anybody they don't, anybody who has any influence and disagrees with the globalist message and the governments will be locked up and will be demonised, just like Tommy Robinson. He is the poster boy for all of that, for what is coming. And people should support him more than they do. But everybody just hangs around the media, demonising him even more. I mean, it is sick, it's sick.

It is. It's really sick and twisted. But as I say, Tommy's so confident about Tuesday. And my God, I hope he's right, because the case was a complete slam dunk. for him and his team. The problem is I don't share that confidence because I know how much, I mean, the fact he's even on trial here shows you how much the state want to be able to lock him up for this.

And it's not because it's a huge amount of prison time, this is more like up to three months and a fine. It's not about that. It's about the British state being able to say, forevermore, Tommy Robinson is a terrorist. I honestly think that's what they're. want and it is a huge concern. Breaking right now, major development in the growing civil war behind the scenes at Talk TV

with Mike Graham, who is currently axed, currently off air, potentially permanently off air at the Murdoch station, calling in lawyers with his friends and allies suggesting that he may end up taking action against the talk sport presenters who have spread malicious smares against him. The Daily Express reporting today that Mike Graham's talk TV future is on a knife edge as bosses are set to make a huge decision, a talk TV source telling the newspaper that the call on whether Mike will be allowed to return to work will quote come in a few days. He is reportedly expected to be but Mike go and start his own project away from the channel. And you know, I've been saying that all week, all week. Use this as an opportunity, Mike, because you don't want to stay in the corrupted

corporate media, which does pull your strengths and does tell you what to say. For example, Mike's position on Tommy Robinson has been absolutely awful, but I'm pretty certain when he comes out into the independent media world and is actually not listening to his bosses who are telling him, oh, he's a far right thug and you've got to say this. I think Mike will have an awakening quite quickly. Now, remember, it was this talk sport presenter, A.D. Ola Depot, who really turned the screws on Mike and effectively force the management to launch this HR investigation

over this apparent racist tweet that he said, Mike, as you know, if you've followed my reporting on this, has been asked to hand over his phone, his personal phone, to NewsUK.HR. But it was all because I'd posted, just been saying that now deleted Instagram posts from Mike Graham, I usually hold my tongue with most of the racist nonsense science and social media. But this is beyond violent, unacceptable from someone in the same building as me, same floor. He simply has to be taken off the air immediately by Talk TV, Horrible Man.

Well, Calvin McKenzie, who is, of course, the former editor of The Sun, but a friend and an ally of Mike Graham, has revealed some big news in the past hour. Posting puzzled that TalkSport presenter aide Olladipo has now deleted his ex-post, which led to News UK taking Mike Graham off air after his Facebook page was hacked with a racist message. The post from Mr. Aladipo said, and he repeated what we've just read, that was last week. Now it was disappeared. Was he told to take it down by the management?

Or did he, on reflection, think it was not appropriate? Or, and here's the news. news, did he fare being sued by Mr. Graham, who has now retained the services of high-powered lawyers? I think we should be told. News UK, under the current CEO Rebecca Brooks, has history when it comes to killing messages. During the phone hacking saga currently on ITV-1, Brooks oversaw the killing of 10 million emails by a contractor in India. The Met had asked them to be retained. Okay, let me bring in Carol McGiffon on this. Carol, too, a former contributor to talk when it was known as talk radio.

In fact, Carol, you used to regularly appear on my show, but then did you become a little bit too hot to handle for talk management too? What went on there? Yeah, I was cancelled from talk TV, talk radio years ago. I think in early 2021, was it, or 22? What for? What? I don't really know. I'm not really sure. So that was during COVID madness. So probably something to do with that.

Yeah, it definitely has something to do with that. And I don't know exactly what. But I was doing, I was on Kevin O'Sullivan's show the night before. And the next morning, or the couple of nights before, the next morning it was in the news that talk had been taken off of YouTube. They'd lost their channel on YouTube. And apparently I have it on good authority that I was partly to blame for that. I'm not sure it was just me. So you know what, that would be vaccines. Well, it probably was, yeah, yeah. You know me, proud anti-vaxxer.

And it probably was to do with that. But then I never got the call again. And it wasn't just me. I think there was someone else who got cancelled by them. And the weird thing is, Dan, since then, a couple of times they've rung me up and said, do you want to come and do something on talk TV? And I just feel like furious. Like, are you joking?

You just literally just dumped me. I was doing quite a lot on there. I was doing Kevin's shows, doing your show. And I quite enjoyed it. But then I just one day, just woke up and then that was it. So Mike, yeah, he's a bit behind. he's he's lasted longer than most in some ways carroll but this is a messy situation of course because what has happened and you know this is exactly what i went through at gb news

is that a corporate veil of silence is all of a sudden unleashed all of the presenters who are meant to be a family you know and in fairness jeremy kyle who has said he doesn't want to take over from Mike Graham permanently, I am informed, is friends with Mike, is regularly seeing Mike. Kevin O'Sullivan, also a genuine friend of Mike. But of course, he has been called in to take over both on the breakfast slot and Plank of the Week, which is a show that is so synonymous with Mike Graham, I think it's actually pretty revolting that the talk management continued with it, if I'm honest, you know? And so then he is getting a whole load of pushback about that because the view.

viewers are saying, well, we need to know what's happening here. I mean, I'll show you what Kevin O'Sullough, he briefly mentioned Mike Graham when he was filling in on the breakfast show yesterday. This is what he said. Morning and welcome to morning glory right here on talk. I'm Kevin O'Sullivan standing in for my old friend Mike Graham, and I will be your host for four hours of breaking news, challenging views and dynamic debate back for the rest of the week, as I say, Mike Graham is still on leave.

You know why. We just have to wait, folks. In the meantime, but the problem is right. You meant to be a free speech station. So while I'm not necessarily blaming the individual presenters, even though there is quite a gross spectacle, I mean, I couldn't believe this. Mark Dolan, who you might remember so quickly,

was delighted, yeah, to jump on my grave. and actually, you know, the viewers punished him for it and then the management punished him for it because they sacked him. You know, he's been posting on X now because, of course, talk took him back and he's talking about his huge numbers and everyone's just like,

this feels so wrong and it feels so icky when none of you are actually saying what's happening to Mike Graham, do you agree with what's happened to Mike Graham? Do you believe he was hacked? And even if he was hacked, Carol, Does his original post Reach the level of being sacked

Losing your whole career? Because of course, Sarah Pochin went on Talk TV Made those comments about being annoyed By seeing black and Asian people and ads And a lot of focus are saying, well, actually, how is that any different to what Mike Graham said in his post? Which was clearly, by the way,

and I know he says he was hacked, but, you know, he was clearly making a point, wasn't he, Carol, about... migrants and about the change that's happened to London, maybe it wasn't, you know, artfully expressed, but you understand what I'm saying here. Yeah, I think the last line was a little bit unnecessary and that's probably what did it for him, just FO.

I mean, you know, sometimes, you know, people might think that sometimes, but you certainly don't say it and you don't say it on Facebook or Twitter, but he, and whether he did it or not, I don't know, whether he was hacked, it was obviously, it might have been a late night. It might have been, you know, he might have had just one bottle of wine too many or something. But, you know, if the story is, it's, he was hacked and he's deleted it, then, you know, but this is the mainstream media now. And I suppose you can count them in because they are, they are owned by News UK or News

International, whatever. So they are the mainstream. And it's like, they just need the time. tiniest little thing now, as with Kay Adams, which, you know, and we're going to talk about, I think. Yes, on loose women. Yeah, the tiniest little thing. And they just get rid of people. I mean, what exactly are they scared of?

And they, again, they don't know their audience. And no one, no one would have seen that post. Hardly anybody would have seen it. It would have been on his Facebook. I don't think it was even on Twitter or anything. No. And, yeah, so who would have seen it? Except it was just highlighted and someone on Talk Sport apparently saw it and reported it to the management and Mike's gone and that's it.

And he was a very, very popular broadcaster and like you, had the highest numbers on the station. By far. I mean, he is absolutely the star of Talk TV. You know, they were getting into this live events business and they have a big event planned with him and Jeremy Kyle at the Shepherd's Bush Empire. Now, that's going to cause huge issues, isn't it? because people have bought tickets to see them both together, not to see Jeremy Kyle on his own. And I imagine a lot of them will be wanting a refund.

But you are right to point out what's been going on with TalkSport. And this is all since BLM, actually, Carol, because I was there in 2020 and I saw the split emerge between the two stations, right? And The Daily Express has revealed a little bit about what is the difference now between Talk Radio and TalkSport. Let me just read you. this is from one of the insiders at NewsUK. And they say it's like Civil War has broken out on the shop floor.

What the public don't understand is that TalkSport and Talk Radio are very different channels in the same building on the same floor. At sport, we have people of all different colours working alongside each other peacefully. We're one big happy team and the bosses at News UK know that. But at Talk Radio, there agenda and output is highly charged to make migrants and minorities feel like the enemy. The fact that Mike Graham can post some of the trash he does normally and nobody in senior management has told him off before is a disgrace, but as Facebook posts is the last straw.

None of us at TalkSport want to work with him. Why would we want to work with a man who says the things he says? In order for the talk radio presenters to get to their studio, they have to walk through the TalkSport section of the office and we don't want him there anymore. Just look at the presenter lineups of both stations and tell me you don't see a difference. We have big names like Darren Bent and Gabby Oblohall.

Why should they have to share a workspace with Mike Graham after what he's said? If Denny Morris, the head of both stations, protects his good friend Mike Graham, there will be civil war in this place. And so that was basically, Carol, like the ultimate warning shot to News UK management. If you don't sack this guy, if you don't launch this HR investigation, we're going to turn this into a massive racism scandal. It's so predictable.

But I saw it at G.B. News as well where, I mean, Carol, you know, because you were behind the scenes there with me, a lot of the staff members were actually very woke and wanted people like Lawrence Fox and Father Calvin Robinson. out of the station, long before anything happened with me. And this is the problem with these big mainstream organizations. Yeah, and I'll tell you what the other problem is. The problem is with the word racist, racism. It's just losing its meaning and its value. Because these days, everyone, everyone is a racist. Well, if you're white, that is, you're racist.

And there's so much anti-white. racism going on at the moment. It's it's everywhere you hear people in the mainstream media say oh this demonstration was way too white this was too white the parliament's too white the north's too white it's so everything's too white and then someone points out something that you know there is does seem to be a bit of a replacement going on and and not only in tv adverts but and then suddenly like everyone's oh everyone's gone mad because oh you you you shouldn't see color uh but you do when you talk about everything being white. This is what really, it's just, this drives me mad.

Not necessarily just black people in adverts, but just drives me mad that everyone... It's the whole culture around it, isn't it? Yes. Do you think, do you think it would be better for Mike Graham to go independent? I mean, times are changing so fast in the mainstream media anyway and talk isn't in a strong places as a channel. Arguably, he would be bigger on his... don't as an entity rather than as part of this sort of controlled opposition.

I think he could definitely do it. I mean, you've done it and, you know, really successful at it. And of course he could. He's got a massive following. He should do it. And he should basically, even if they are thinking about taking him back, he should stick his fingers up to them and say, no, I don't want to come back. Because it's forever going to be a bit of a race war on that floor, isn't it?

it's like oh well we've got black people working on talk sport and and they don't want to be in the same room as him because he's a racist it's like you know it wouldn't be a nice place for him to go back to anyway and i know he probably would because i know i'm much he loved doing it but um he should he should just walk away from it and just go i'm going to go independent he would get backers he would get you know he's he's massively popular you'd have some competition Well, no, I, do you know what? I totally view the independent world differently. Like, I want more big names in this space. Do you know what I mean? Like, I want to create, like, like, look at America, right, where you've got people from all over the spectrum on the right, you know,

Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Ben Shapiro. They don't all agree on everything. But I think what they're proving is that it's so much more powerful to have your independent voice out. there and then sometimes they'll have debates between each other. I mean, there's the big interview last night with Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes and in the past they've sort of had big rows, but now they're sitting down. Like, to me, that's honest. Do you see what I mean? Because you're not corrupted as an individual. I mean, I guess some people might be, but there's way less chance of you being corrupted as an individual, right, than there is when you're part of a big organisation and you're effectively working for corrupted people. And whether you're working for Murdoch

or Paul Marshall or Rothermore. And remember, I've done this. I did this all for 20 years. You are corrupted to an extent because you do get leaned on and you do get pressure put on you. And I always tried to push back right. But it's not always possible because they're paying your wages. And so, no, I want to see Mike in this space, actually. But I'd also agree that, you know, I'd want to see Mike debate Tommy Robinson, for example.

Do you see what I mean? Because I think Mike's got it totally. wrong on Tommy Robinson, but that could happen in this space. Yeah, of course it could, and it should. I wasn't aware of his bias towards Tommy Robinson or his anti-Tom Robinson bias before, I think you played a clip. Yeah, he said he's racist and the full mainstream view on it. Yes, I'd love to know what Mike really thinks about him, because you know as well as I do

that most mainstream media companies have that agenda. where you can't even express the tiniest bit of support for Tommy Robinson. If I ever did that when I was on loose women, it would just be like to like horror screams in the meeting. And, you know, you're trying to stick up for people who people don't want to hear. It was the same with, you know, when the Russia-Ukraine war started. You know, I didn't want to take sides straight away. and the thought that I might think, well, you know,

maybe this isn't all Putin being mad. You know, there might be a reason behind it. It's one of those things. So there is always a gender. You know, I remember you were on my show on GB News that night, and I loved it. I think it was the night that war broke out. Do you remember that?

Yeah, I did. And you pushed back against the narrative. And of course there were worries at GB News about that. I loved it because I'm like, Father Calvin Robinson came on as well. He had huge reservations. It's like the whole point of that channel I thought was to go against group thing. But of course, over, you know, it's been, it has also been corrupted.

So no, I don't view Mike Graham as a threat. I genuinely want him to come into this space. I think it would be a really good thing for the independent media in the UK. And I would happily host, by the way, the debate between him and Tommy Robinson. I reckon that would be fiery. And I'm totally there for it. Carol McGiffon. So, loose women, we can't let you go without talking about loose women, right? Because there's this big bullying scandal that has erupted with Kay Adams, and you've come out with quite an interesting take on that.

But first, you know, everyone's been absolutely hounding Sarah Pochard over the comments of, you know, it's frustrating for people to just see black or Asian people on TV, given the demographics. folks. I honestly believe Wokai TV are now trolling us because I want to show you they announced it on Facebook earlier and then it did happen. This was the lineup of loose women today. Remembering that the population of the UK is 5% black. So for black women, no Asian people at all, no white people at all. And as I just said on this, but Sarah Poachin was wrong. Now, McGiff, come on.

The fact that they have done it this week. Now, I know you're probably going to tell me oh, loose women panels are booked like weeks and weeks in advance or something. But to me, it feels like a provocation. It feels like they're making a point. Well, apparently it was for black history. month, but it feels like it's Black History Month every month lately.

I don't know. I mean, what annoys me about that is not that there are four black women on the panel, but the fact that they are allowed to shout about it and like it's a big thing. And, okay, they'll say, well, you know, there weren't any black women on this panel for many, many years it was all white. And it's like, well, you know, people were not not being employed because they were black. But, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if some people are now employed. And I'm not talking about loose women in particular.

I'm just talking about, you know, people do now get employed. Oh, Carol, come on. Of course they are. Charlene White. I'm sorry, Charlene White is one of the least popular presenters in the country. She went on, I'm a celebrity. I mean, sorry, you're probably now going to tell me your friends with her or something, aren't you? And that's going to be really awkward.

But she went on IT, she went on I'm a celebrity. Just make me make the point. She went on I'm a celebrity. She was booted out immediately because she was so disliked. She was a London newsreader. ITV have basically decided post all of the DEI stuff that she absolutely has to host everything. Now that is very, very different to say a Judy Love who is quite clearly beloved by the audience. Do you see what I mean?

But there are some people who do. do get hired now simply based on DEI policies at ITV. That is a fact. I mean, they told me when I was there, that's what they were starting to do. Yeah, no, I know quite a few people have been dumped from the BBC as well because they've insisted on having black faces on television and the other people have had to step aside because of it. No, there's no doubt about that.

But what upsets me more is just imagine the outcry and the uproar and the trouble that there would be if four white women, which there are regularly for white women on loose women, there always was and there are sometimes now. But imagine if you just want to say, we're all white, we're all white today, everybody's all white. Oh, it's a white show today. You know what I mean? I mean, imagine. Imagine. But the fact that there are a loud. to go on and make a big, massive thing about the fact that

it was like when they won the award and it was like, we won this award and it was basically, we won this award because we're black. And it's, you know, of course, of course, they entered the all black episode. And that was for the BAFTAs, was it? I don't know if it was, I thought it was a BAS. I think it might be the RTS Awards. RTS Awards, yeah, yeah, that's right. But one of those lovey awards.

It was like, Luce Women won an award. That was a big deal because they don't usually. But the only reason the RTS actually decided to honour them was because they put in the all black panel. I didn't say that. You might say that, but I couldn't possibly say that. I'm happy to say that. I'm saying that.

McGiff is not saying that. But no, look, it is an issue to me because I think the point that Sarah Pochin was making right was even though the comment was taken out of context. But it was all about proportionality of what diversity means, Carol. And there are, people will be shocked to learn. Even people watching Outspoken

will be shocked to learn that the UK population is 5% black. That is a shocking, shocking figure. Four, isn't it? Well, I think it's, I, well, I think it's around that. Yeah, maybe a little over four, but certainly not over 5%. I think at the most recent census.

And, you know, I mean, it's not usually I agree with it. And I don't agree with her obviously calling me as a race-bater, because she's the race-bater-in-chief. But weirdly, Narenda-Kor almost had sort of half a point today. Because I posted my tweet, and she then came in and said, Dan Merton did his usual and criticised the brilliant all-black panel on today's loose women. He is right, though. South Asian women are extremely unrepresented on TV.

So I fixed it. So you see there, she's just who she'd taken off. Motsie, I think it's Motsie Maboussi from Strickland. Oh, put herself in it. And she's put herself in it, which I don't know if would improve the ratings, to be honest. But, but is she not making a point there, Carol? Because do you know what you never see on loose women, an Asian person?

So they had Saira Khan, right? I mean, as far as I'm aware, there's no. And there's more Asian people in the country. So I spoke to a loose woman once who said to me, Their idea of what diversity is is a very particular type of black woman that lives in London and it's not diversity at all. Yeah, I know, but really, it shouldn't matter, should it?

The fact that they make a massive issue out of the fact that they've got four black women on the panel, that is the problem because it wouldn't happen the other way around. You know, whether you're black Asian or whatever, if you've got something to say and you've got a decent opinion, and you can go onto a talk show that lasts for an hour and express that opinion without, you know, they're not bringing race into everything.

Like, you know, some panel members are guilty of. Like, everything has to be about race. It just turns out like that. And there's no need for it. It shouldn't happen. And that's what I think pisses people off. I don't think it's the fact that, you know, there are four black women.

If they just happen to be four black women, so what? But apparently there is one Asian person called Sinitra Sarka, but I mean, I've never heard of her, Carol. Do you know who she is? Oh, yeah, you know her. She's an actress. She used to be in casual. I think she's still in casualty or something like that. She's certainly not on very much.

And they say Miling Class too, but that's obviously she's East Asian heritage. But look, the other big scandal, of course, involving loose women is in terms of Kay Adams, someone who you spent years and years working with. And she is absolutely livid. I think for good reason, Carol, she has been taken off air at the BBC. And she hasn't been told why or what she has apparently done.

It looks to me like there's been some type of woke campaign against her. Now, you have actually defended her in your new Best magazine column this week, saying you worked with her for years and years and years, and sure she could be a little bit annoying at times, but she's certainly not a bully. So what's going on here? God knows. I mean, it really is disgusting that this can happen.

Like, you know, a complaint, an anonymous complaint is made about Kay, and she is taken off. She's not told what the complaint is. There's an investigation going on, apparently. And she's just in the dark over it, over it. But it was one day she was there. The next day she wasn't there, been replaced by a 30-year-old person and it's like how can that just happen without any kind

of justification or reason and just destroying someone's character and and reputation in a heartbeat like in seconds just making her disappear and she is of course she's livid of course she's she's beside herself i mean she's done i think she's been doing that job for nearly as long as she's been doing loose women. I think it's the best part of 20 years. I'm not sure, but I know it's a hell of a long time. And to do

that show and to do it as well as she does, she does everything well. And I don't know if it's a woke campaign because Kay's one of the wokenest people I know. And we're still really good friends, but she, you know, she is pretty bloody woke. What's interesting

is in Scotland, of course, there's the whole other aspect, which gets throw it in, which is the pro-independence aspect, the SNP, the hardcore SMP, because yes, she's on the left and yes, she's woke, but she's anti-independence, K Adams. And the suggestion was that maybe that had sparked some controversy. But the point is, we now live, there's a much wider point here, and we saw it happen to me, didn't we, Carol? You know, we now live in a media where you are absolutely guilty, immediately, an accusation is made. These staff members can say whatever the hell they want. And let's be

honest, Carol, producers very often find reasons to dislike the hosts they're working for. Sure, some people are monsters, right? You know, Philip Schofield, a bit of a monster. But actually, a lot of times, it's not that, you know, it's just so, yeah, I don't like what's happened here. And I think, but, you know, we saw it happen with Greg Wallace. We saw it happen with John. On to road, you know. But the TV world creates these monsters. You know, like I said in my column, they give them more and more work and they feed them, feed their egos and give them more money. And it all just goes on and on and on.

Now that can't happen. So, and then someone makes one complaint. You know, they're happy to facilitate these people for a long, long time. And now they can just disappear in a puff of smoke on one complaint. But Kay is not one of those. people she is not an egomaniac she's not you know she's not a bully i've never seen her shout at anybody she might give people the look you know like she does and you know she can be a bit annoying sometimes because she's very persistent like i said she's pedantic she's persistent and she's a

perfectionist but she's super professional so there's absolutely i i dispute that allegation she can't possibly be a yeah well you would know i mean you worked with i mean gosh she were probably what working with it for 20 years or something, right? Yeah. I started working with them in 2000, yeah. And give or take a couple of years when I, when I'd left and she'd left. But we've always been in contact. She is one of the few people on loose women that I've always been friends with. And I know it's weird because these two are completely trust you on that. And I think it's outrageous actually. And it's, it's part of this sort of chilly new environment. But look, the great thing is Carol, you're back on outspoken. We

love having you here and we're going to see you again before the year is out. So it is so wonderful to have you back. McGiffin, of course, you can read her column in Best magazine. And you've also got your brilliant podcast, Carol, which I'm sure you want to plug, because I love it. You know, I love it with Nick Abbott. Oh, yeah. It's doing great guns now, Dan. It's really good. It's cool. What's your problem with Nick Abbott and Carol McGiffin? And he's another great friend of mine that I've known for 30, 40 years. And we've always been friends. and he's worse lefty than Kay Adams, seriously. And the podcast isn't about that, though.

But, you know, it is brilliant. You should never listen. Oh, I love it. It got me through lockdown, actually. I can't believe it's been going that long now. But it really did. Those were very dark times, weren't they? But they're not quite so dark now in some ways.

But McGiff, we're going to see you very soon. So great to have you on outspoken. Thank you so much. And I will reveal today's greatest Britain Union Jackass in just one moment. First of your comments, though. Georgia, 1957, says, while elitists are screaming racism, the migrants in the UK, taking hold of the UK, wake up Brits before your UK is stripped of its culture. Ritchie reports UK says, we can't wait for 2029, it'll be too late to save our country by then. We need an election now.

And Susan Park says it drives me mad when I go into British stores in every advert around the places of non-white people in town where less than 10% of the population is white. Okay, a reminder of your union jackass nominees, Dawn Butler, nominated by Darren Donaldson, for calling Sarah Potian racist in Parliament. Sidic Khan nominated by It's Only Me 44 for inviting trans people to events to help those going through menopause and Jess Phillips nominated by Blame Game

for her dire performance last week in regards to the grooming gang inquiry. Okay, the results are in with 9% of the vote, Dawn Butler. The runner up with 23% of the vote, Jess Phillips. But overwhelming winner of Uni and Jackass today with 68% of your votes, Sadiq Khan. And I love this nomination from Sarah Booth for today's Greatest Britain, Ellie Reynolds, for being brave enough to be identified,

leaving the flawed grooming gang's inquiring panel, and calling out the duplicitous Jess Phillips, now appearing on live TV with Nigel Farage to explain her stance, a laser-focused lioness. And I have to say, I thought Ellie Reynolds' performance yesterday was superb. What a woman. Rising Star, I could see, and I think Reform UK should try and snap her up, to be honest. Okay, we're moving over to Substack now for the uncanceled after show. Prince Harry and Megan Markle purposely unveil the faces of their children, Archie and Lily, on social media.

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