Dan Wootton Outspoken - MSM ENEMIES OF BRITAIN EXPOSED: OWEN JONES, PIERS MORGAN, BENJAMIN BUTTERWORTH & JAMES O’BRIEN

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Pink Ladies Orla Minihande and Sarah White join Dan to begin the countdown of the 50 WORST of 2025. Left wing goblin Owen Jones, Calamity Lammy and biggest bully in Britain, James O’Brien make the b...ombshell list. To watch the Uncancelled After Show for exclusive extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wharton. This is outspoken episode number 392, a special edition of the show. I have been so excited about this. The 50 is back. This is when we bring you the countdown that no one wants to be on the worst moments of 2025. And good lord, with this hard left communist government and all of the madness going on in the disunited kingdom.
Starting point is 00:01:28 the Western world, there is sure a hell of a lot to get through, folks. It has been a mega year. I mean, we've even had woke restaurants turning on patriotic customers. Sorry, what did you say? Your members of Stark are uncomfortable, sir? So would you ask people if they were from the Green Party, for example, or anyone on the left? Would you think it would be appropriate for you to call them up and ask them to take their post down? I would call anybody, I would call anybody to ask them this because you'd just take me down
Starting point is 00:02:02 for the negative impact on the restaurant itself. No, you wouldn't. Or how about Benjamin Bartowardt, sparking fury after backing an MSM ban on Tommy Robinson? I don't think he should be on there. And actually, I would make, because you disagree with him. But I think he's a dangerous person. And I? What about those insufferable stunts from the fake Duchess, Megan Marys?
Starting point is 00:02:28 I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing yet. Yet. My business hasn't gotten traction yet. Yet. No one's picked up my book proposal yet. Yes. I haven't found my soulmate yet.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And you haven't done one authentic thing in your life, Megan Markle. Megan Markle, yet. Kicking off the countdown, I will be joined by my pink superstar panel. Yes, it is none other than Reform UK's, Alla Minnie Hain, and proud senior advance UK member, Sarah White. Of course, these were two women who we became great friends with in 2025, became part of the outspoken family. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Sometimes you've got to think, don't you, all? Positive can come out of a very bad situation, because what happened in Epin was revolting. But actually it sparked a movement, which I think is now bigger than just Essex. Oh, absolutely. And, you know, it's growing and growing in 2026 is going to see such, you know, fantastic collaboration
Starting point is 00:03:44 between us and other groups up and down the country. Sarah and I are going to be travelling far and wide to support people from as far as the highlands in Scotland all the way down to it. Exeter just to, you know, show them that there is solidarity and what we're doing. So we're really excited about next year. And Sarah, your year, your year are arrested on the steps of the town hall for unfurling a union jack flag, defected from Reform UK to Advance UK.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's been a big one. It has. It has been a big one. And you spoke at Tommy Robinson's United Kingdom Rally. Yes, let's not forget that, because Tommy's was the pinnacle. That was, I will remember that for the rest of my life. And then Poland, Poland was just amazing as well. Tommy and Anne.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah, and Dominic. So would you say 2025 was the year that you became radicalised? I think I became radicalised before 2025. I just think that it, with the things that happened, it shot me into a little bit of having a platform and being allowed to spread the message far and wide. I became radicalised because I met her. Oh, shut up, Nazi Barbie. Nazi Barbie, God, I love that. Okay, well, look, you are a radical combination.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Let's get going. I should remind everyone, no uncanceled after show today, but the royal content, all available for you on Substack. That's at www. outspoken.org. We will be back on next Monday. Next Monday. We will be back, though, with the live uncanceled after show,
Starting point is 00:05:19 and we'll also start revealing our brown new. Greatest Britons and Union Jackasses for 2026 from then as well. But now, let's go. And kicking off the countdown of the 50 worst moments of 2025 at number 50 was when that left-wing goblin Owen Jones was humiliated by Pearce Morgan after the Guardian columnist appeared on uncensored, looking very. very high and very twitchy, watch. I haven't exterminated the vast majority of the region.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I prefer to wait. Sorry. You're right. I'm getting excited. You're getting nervous, aren't you? Very excited. But look. Sure you are.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Following the appearance, an extraordinary route broke out between J.K. Rowling and Mr Jones about what drugs the far left loser was on, which led him to revealing he took stimulants before going on air. But of course, it was all down. down to his ADHD. Rather than deal with the substance of what I was saying, she instead decided to, and I am not exaggerating here,
Starting point is 00:06:30 promote claims that I had snorted cocaine before my appearance. Someone had tweeted a clip of the interview, in which they wrote, someone's freely energetic. I mean, okay, that's already in nudge, nudge, wink, wink territory. And she quote tweeted at adding, I've never seen film footage before, where only one character has been sped up to 30 times natural speed. Very droll, obviously deciding it was still a little light on innuendo.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Someone with destroying wokeness in their bio responded with, The secret ingredient must be a white powder and rolling fad back. Well, he is known as Talcum X. Now, I would actually hand it to her for this being pretty funny if it wasn't for the fact that I'm afraid to say this is ripped off material. Some activists in the US labelled writer, Sean King, Talcim X, many years ago. That's a label which has been circulating for years as a result. Now, I don't want to get penitick here, but you kind of hope a celebrated rice might just come up with their own material.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But, you know, whatever, you do you. On the specifics, if I was self-destructive enough to stalk cocaine before doing immediate appearance, then I would have an addiction. I take 40 milligrams of alvents a day. So technically, yes, I did take stimulants before going on air. Not cocaine, but if we're going to get all technical, amphetamines, courtesy of the National Health Service. God, Telcomics, can we cope with him all or can he just shut up in 2026? Well, I think he protests too much, don't you? He who doth protest too much about the stimulant abuse?
Starting point is 00:07:54 But if he's, is it because he says he's got ADHD? Is that why he said, why he said, why would you give speed to someone with ADHD? Surely that's like... Yeah, but also, if he's saying that he takes it to calm himself down, he definitely wasn't calm down. He was erratic. I mean, that man was off his face. Let's just be absolutely clear here, right? He was off his right.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And even Pierce is like, oh. Office face on legal drugs, which of course you can. can do. I mean, look, people are going to find this very controversial. I don't believe in ADHD. I certainly don't believe in adult ADHD, okay? It's for people who want to legally put speed into their system. And that's what you have to do. I've got ADHD. Well, you definitely have. Now, okay, number 49, this was the moment that the BBC news reader, remember this, Martin Croxel went rogue on air as she rejected her employer's trans extremity. as they tried to force-feed her a woke script that suggested people, people, not women, people, could be pregnant.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Watch. London's School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine has released research, which says that nearly 600 heat-related deaths are expected in the UK. Malcolm Mystery, who was involved in the research, says that the aged, pregnant people, women, and those with pre-existing health conditions need to take report. Now, that moment went viral worldwide, with Croxel receiving a huge amount of support, and interestingly, the Bebe stood by her at that early stage, but after hundreds of trans activists lodged complaints with the broadcast of their executive complaints unit, considered her facial expression. Yes, her facials gave the strong impression expressing a personal view on a controversial matter. Croxel was spoken to, but not formally disciplined. But I mean, come on. For the British bashing corporation, Sarah, it's like, pitoes are fine.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Did you know what I mean? We've got to completely screw over Donald Trump. But Martin Crocksell shouldn't be able to suggest that a goddamn woman is a woman. I mean, they've lost the plot. They have completely crossed the line. They've jumped the shark. It's over.
Starting point is 00:10:09 The world's gone mad. Men cannot have children. They can't have babies. I don't care what anyone says. We all know that. We've got common sense. But unfortunately, there is a group of people that believe that men can have babies. Well, I'd like to see them prove it.
Starting point is 00:10:26 You know, actually prove it. I'm not going to try. I'm not going to try. I mean, look, talking of her facial expressions, it is obvious that she's got complete disdainment all over her face. Now, I don't know whether she wasn't. No, she wasn't. And she's like, really. But again, you know, she's a newsreader.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And she's reading a cue. But ultimately, if you've got an answer. of decency and any kind of, you know, sort of genuine persona about you, you are going to show your facial expression if you don't agree with something. I mean, this whole trans thing and, you know, again, I always say this. Identify as what you want. That's your business. Good for you. But don't expect me to call you something that you are not. It's called DNA. You're a man or a woman. Yeah. End of story. 100%. 100%. Now, look, at number 48 was when our sackless Deputy Prime Minister, Calamity Lammy,
Starting point is 00:11:22 disgracefully claimed reform UK leader Nigel Farage flirted with Hitler youth only to deliver a pathetic non-apology a few hours later. Watch. Is Nigel Farage a racist? I answered your question. I'm not going to play the man. I'm playing the ball as our leader did. I will leave it for the public to come to their own judgments
Starting point is 00:11:46 about someone who wants flirt. with Hitler youth when he was younger. That is for the public. They also suggested that Nigel Farage have flirted with Hitler youth. Now the party have said that's totally untrue, that that's libelous, contemptuous. What did you mean by that? I think there were some articles circling around from the teacher, but I wasn't at school with Nigel Farage.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I don't know what songs he sang at school. So I'm happy... You have no evidence for that suggestion. I'm happy to clarify. I did say it's for the public to make up their mind. to make up their mind. And I did also emphasize that let us play the ball, not the man. So it's not my intention to play the man, Nigel Farage.
Starting point is 00:12:25 In fact, I did a show with Nigel Farage and LBC a few years ago. Let us concentrate on the ball, the policy. The policy, which is the deportation policy, his policies on the NHS, which I think is to charge, and his policies on lowering tax cuts, which would lead to the bomb markets, not the man. To be totally clear, you're pulling back from that comment that you made?
Starting point is 00:12:48 He has denied it and so I accept that he has denied it and I would like to clarify that position because in the end the Prime Minister was keen for us to focus on the policies not the individual. But all the mini Hayne what Lammy of course did
Starting point is 00:13:04 was set the hounds out on Nigel Farage regarding these in my opinion discredited accusations from 49 years earlier. Right so I mean like David Lammy thinks everybody is racist. He does.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Everybody's a racist. Unless you are... Worse than that, everyone's a Nazi. If you voted for Brexit, you're an Nazi. If you're a Nazi, a racist, Nazi racist. That's it. That's David's vocabulary. I cannot bear the man.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I think he is so out of his depth. It's embarrassing. And let's be clear, the only reason he's in the position he is in is because he ticks a diversity box. It's simple. Because he has not got a brain cell. The man, he's actually dangerous.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Dangerous and dumb. Dangerous and dumb, which is the worst combination. The fact is, Unless you can prove something and you can very rarely prove something that was 40 odd years ago because we had no camera phones. We had no, you know, we didn't have the technology. Stop labelling people with no proof. It is dangerous and it is, it's just wrong. I know for a fact that David Lammy has got a list as long as his arm of things that he did when he was in the council years ago. He worked for Harringay for many years. And I know I've spoken to many people.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Nobody brings that up because they're too scared because he's a black man and he's in, in the government, in government, but Nigel just seems to be, and not anybody on the right, seems to be an easy target, which is absolutely and completely unfair. It is, isn't it? Yeah, he's not, let's face it, Nigel might be many things. He's not a racist. And to dig something up from over 40 years ago, like you say, there's no proof. And you can't then all of a sudden retract something by going, well, he said he's not guilty.
Starting point is 00:14:40 So that means he's not guilty. Because actually, because you say you're not guilty doesn't mean you're not guilty. but like you say, he just wanted to unleash the hounds. And let's face it, David Lammy's the one who's racist. Absolutely. He's completely racist. He's an anti-white racist. And by the way, that is racism.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And it's a form of racism which is spreading. And I've really noticed that over the past 12 months. But look, at number 47 was when the truly despicable James O'Brien, one of the worst people in Britain, resorted to flat. out abusing a caller live on LBC because he voted for Brexit. Watch.
Starting point is 00:15:24 What would I have done? Well, I'm not a politician that's not my expert team. But if you don't have a view on that. I would certainly have sealed the borders up. Part from somehow sealing our borders, when I ask you what you could or what any politician could have done differently,
Starting point is 00:15:38 you've got nothing. I haven't got nothing. I'm not an expert on how I would seal the borders. No, well, let's forget about sealing the borders and talk about how Brexit could have gone better. Sealing the borders is not the right words. Well, I think they were yours. Apart from immigration, how could Brexit have gone better?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Apart from immigration. Yeah. By having control of your own country, which I wouldn't know whether we have or not, but not being ruled by Europe. In what way? Give me an example of that, would you? I can't. I can't give you an example.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Does that not embarrass you? I am slightly embarrassed because I'm not an expert. Do you know who else, isn't it? expert on this? You? No, I am. Ask me anything. Every single person who's encouraged you to support Brexit. There's not a single expert among them, and yet you're still trusting them instead of the people who are being proved right about everything. And I hear the chuckle, and that means that you're not someone
Starting point is 00:16:32 who's been desperately affected by Brexit. You're not someone whose business has been shut down. You're someone who lies awake in bed in Middlesex, having weird dreams about immigrants. You're not someone who's had... You're very rude to me, aren't you? Well, I am very rude to me, aren't you? Well, I am very rude to you, yes, because of what you've done to my country. What I've done? And now you're here to tell me you've got no clue about anything. What have I done to? I voted for Brexit.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It was 51% against 49%. You voted for Brexit, and you still cling to the carcass that it could somehow have gone well. And apart from making life difficult for people who don't look like you, you haven't got a single clue what that means, what you want, or how you'd go about getting it. So how on earth, Richard, could I not be rude to you? Well, a lot of people are rude to me because I've got very strong views on certain things. No, it's not because you've got very strong.
Starting point is 00:17:13 wrong views, Richard. It's because you can't explain a single one of them. I mean, just imagine, Sarah, just imagine being that much of a wanker that you talk to the people who call up your show to, who keep you in business like that. And this is the most biased show in the British media. Now, you know, I think the off-communists should be banned altogether. But if someone like James O'Brien was operating on the right on G.B. News or Talk TV, they would be off air. Immediately. I mean, the double standard. are off the planet. And you know the thing is, LBC invite you to call up
Starting point is 00:17:48 to give your opinion and give your view. They surely don't encourage you to call up to them be belittled and humiliated and bullied. Because there's a massive thing around bullying. We know that. And he's a bully. And he's a bully. He's terrible.
Starting point is 00:18:02 It's awful. He's the biggest bully in Brisset. To say to people that doesn't look like you. What does he mean? People that doesn't look like Richard because he doesn't know what Richard look like. Rich could be green. Yeah, but is he insinuating that Richard is a white male? 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Well, that's 100% what I was thinking, Oler. It's another example of that anti-white racism. What he's effectively saying is you're a gammon. You're a white gammon. James O'Brien is the biggest white gammon there is, by the way. He said, do you know what? I've watched James over 10, 15 years,
Starting point is 00:18:34 and he has become so angry. And so he actually used to not, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, he wasn't that bad. You know, I could listen to him and he'd have, he'd always be a bit left but he would have an opinion on both sides and he was you know he was sensible now he's angry he's you know he's he's just a typical lefty if you've got any opinion that isn't his he will shut you down and he's unbelievably arrogant he thinks that he is a master of all that he thinks he's he knows everything about everything he's a dreadful human being i'm the expert he says
Starting point is 00:19:10 Ask me anything. Everything. Everyone arrogant Peter Shear. And you know what? You have to be able. That's the thing. And I always say this. And I say this to when we talk about lefties. They have never got enough respect to listen to the other side.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I'll listen to people. I might not agree with them. But I respect their opinion because I've got an open mind. And I think everyone's entitled to them. He will not listen. He will not respect anyone. He shuts you down. He's just a despicable, rude, arrogant pig of a man.
Starting point is 00:19:36 He really is. Couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree more. And number 46, on our list of the worst moments of 2025, the woke restaurants that turned on patriotic customers. First up was Steakhouse Hawksmoor, as they asked Tommy Robinson and his group of friends, including the podcaster Liam Tufts, to leave their establishment of members of staff apparently felt uncomfortable serving them. Sorry, what did you say? What's that? The members of the staff are uncomfortable, sir?
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah, yeah. Is it because of the colour of my skin? No, no, no. We have a duty. Is it because of the colour of my skin? We like to look after our people, as I'm sure you can understand. Our CEO, we're also if you've got any questions about any more than I'm going to email him directly, he was he'd just there.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Now, what was so appalling about that is that as soon as the backlash began, Instead of standing by their decision, Hawksmore tried to claim it had nothing to do with politics. Then a similar thing happened to me, except I actually got to eat my meal and pay for it before I was told there was an issue. Yes, the general manager of Joe Allen Restaurant in London decided to call me asking me to take down a picture from social media of myself, Alison Pearson, Lucy, and Ray Connolly and a top barrister having a nice meal. And this was because apparently he was so horrified about woke activist trolls, leaving a couple of nasty posts on his business's Facebook page.
Starting point is 00:21:24 That's not what we're about. I mean, we're not a social media-style restaurants anyway. So would you ask people if they were from the Green Party, for example, or anyone on the left? would you think it would be appropriate for you to call them up and ask them to take their post down? I would call anybody to ask them this because you'd take it down and think it was having a negative impact on the restaurant itself.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I think it was having a negative impact on the business. So, well, I think we have to start calling this out now because in the past I might have shrugged it off or thought, oh, I don't want to make a scene, I don't want to make a big deal of it. But actually, to me, what's been going on with these restaurants, is the start of something very dark, very dark. And something that was happening, by the way, in America five years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And what did it lead to? The assassination of Charlie Kirk. Absolutely. And do you know what? I was just looking at this thinking, this is South Africa 25 years ago. Yes. Right? If you were, you know, if that was the other way around
Starting point is 00:22:23 and that restaurant with Tommy and his friends, if they were black men all sitting there together and that happened, can you imagine the outrage? There is nothing different. It is pure and utter bigotry. That is what it is. And how dare some jumped up waitresses and women to say, I'm not served. Do your job. You get paid. And do you know what they missed a
Starting point is 00:22:41 Mr. Trick? They'd have probably got a really nice tip, wouldn't they? Oh, totally. They've got a really good. And what was so interesting, Sarah, is that Tommy had been approached positively by customers in the restaurant. And so had I when I walked into Joe Allen. So it was nothing to do with the people who were actually choosing to pay their money and eat in the restaurant. Yeah, of course it was nothing to do with that at all. And to say that your members of staff, you can't go on what your members are staff. They're there to serve. That is it. That's what they paid for. Not paid to have an opinion on one of your clients, like a customer. They have to serve. But then you'd be concerned,
Starting point is 00:23:18 are they going to do something to your food? So it's probably better off that they did leave. But can you imagine, right, if I was a waitress and you were the, you were the restaurant owner, and I said, do you know what, I'm really sorry, I'm quite racist. I don't like black people, so I don't want to serve them. You would have me out like that. Or any kind of anybody. It never happens when it's the other way around. I mean, I think about all of those big meals that have been had by the hard leftists, the anti-Semites over the past year, which have been posted on social media.
Starting point is 00:23:47 If a restaurant was to turn those people down, it would cause absolute havoc. And I do think it's this double standard. He's saying that he was worried about the bad comments coming. Then people are never going to eat in his restaurant anyway. They're so woke. They won't spend it. Yeah, exactly. They're all vegan for stars.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You should have gone, you know what? I'm happy with these people. We would have been better off coming out going, I've had some really negative comments, up yours, basically, to the left. We will serve people who spend money in our restaurants. 100%. And you would like to think, wouldn't you,
Starting point is 00:24:19 that anyone on the left would actually understand that you don't want to be in a type of world where people are being turned away. Because as you say, although this is segregation of South Africa 25 years ago, of the American South in the 1960s. That is where we are here. Absolutely. That is exactly where we are.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Now, number 45 saw the reunion of myself and the left-wing firebrand, Benjamin Butterworth. This was the first time that we'd seen each other since my departure from G.B. News. And we clashed, just like old times, at Maya Toosie's new media conference, when the very sound audience erupted in fury, when Butterworth tried to justify G.B. News's ban on Tommy Robinson saying that the activist was dangerous. This is what went down. I don't think he should be on there. And actually, I would make, I would, because you disagree with him.
Starting point is 00:25:17 But I think he's a dangerous person. And I would make the point. No, no, seriously. Three speech, get over. Talking about people lying in the main. media locking people up for that. Then Laura Coonsberg, Robert Piston, Beth Rickley,
Starting point is 00:25:35 Benjamin Bustworth would all be in jail. Was I said, you saw the fights I had with the producers behind the scenes when they tried to tell me what to do. Yeah, but you didn't quit over that, did you? No, I was sacked. Exactly. Because I didn't do what I was told to do. And you know, the other point that I made,
Starting point is 00:25:53 Ola, is that he's such a hypocrite because Benjamin Butterworth interviewed the Taliban for the eye newspaper. Now, I actually have no problem with that, right? But how can you say that Tommy Robinson is too dangerous to platform? But the Taliban are completely fine to platform. Again, rank double standards from the hard lift. Benjamin Button, first of all, can I just address the fact that he needs to go and see a stylist?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Because I'm not sure what's going on those shoes and socks, right? That's the first thing. Second thing, this is very much like the BBC having migrants in the illegal. migrants in their audience. This is very like the guy that in the Ethiopian guy that sexually sorted the girl in NEPIN,
Starting point is 00:26:34 Sky News, putting him on their platform. But Tommy's dangerous? Yeah. How could they have got the most double standards? It is unbelievable. They can do what they want,
Starting point is 00:26:44 say who they want, praise who they want. But the minute somebody on the right says one thing they're down in you like a ton of bricks. It's just the double standards are actually getting to a point where they are out of control
Starting point is 00:26:56 and I think they are so, what the left are, you know, the hypocrisy of the left is becoming very, very dangerous and scary. It really is. The arrogance. It's the arrogance of the left. They are, they're the ones that are inciting violence. They're the ones that are causing the divide.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like we say, the people on the right, we're happy to debate, we're happy to talk. We don't want anyone's silence for their views. However, everybody on the left wants everyone on the right silenced. They want us all gotten rid of. Silence. We're all killed. I mean, look at the celebrations of the death of Charlie King. How can you celebrate?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Do you know what? I was watching something when, what's the face, Sultana. Zara Solana of your party. She is the most, the most dangerous, nasty piece of work. Yet she is celebrated as some kind of heroine. And that is terrifying. Yeah. That really is terrifying.
Starting point is 00:27:48 She's a really, and I don't, you know, whatever the repercussions of this, I don't care. She's a really nasty piece of work. How many people are celebrated from, with her viewpoint? They're all celebrating. They're called far left. No. But isn't it funny how the far left will call me and you a Nazi? But they're the ones calling for death for Jews in the street.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Honestly, double standards. It's just too much. It's too much. And do you know what? None of them have got a sense of humour. None of them smile. None of them laugh. None of them can ever.
Starting point is 00:28:15 They're just nasty. So look at James O'Brien. And the minute they lose an argument, you're racist. That's it. You're racist. You're racist. You're racist. But they've overused it.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And you should be cancelled. Yes. And you should never feature on their shows. again, the... And never eaten a restaurant. And not even eaten a restaurant. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Well, Megan Markle and Prince Harry gave us some of the worst moments of 2025. And number 44 on our countdown is when the fake Duchess's PR stunt, bizarre PR stunt, exposed the misery of Prince Harry. As she staged a celebration of the world. World Series alongside her clearly unimpressed husband watch. What? What? Harry can't even hide his misery about having to deal with that woman and her weird
Starting point is 00:29:23 with that woman and her weird social media. social media. And remember this is a guy who says he's so traumatized to be photographed ever because of what happened to his mother all of those decades ago. Okay, fine, I understand that. But it's your wife who is actually now the biggest paparazzi. She's secretly filming you at home. She's secretly taking pictures of you wherever you are to post on social media. So spare me the lectures about the paps, Harry, because the pap is actually in your bed. She is the biggest media whore, isn't she? Yes. She really is. And she is so disingenuous. And she is. So that laugh, it literally pierces through my mind, pierces through my life.
Starting point is 00:30:00 It wasn't authentic, was it? Oh, no. And what she was, and he looks like he's in a coma. And the thing is, ultimately, you know, matter what Harry, and I'm not a fan of either, and what he's done to his family, I think he's atrocious. But, you know, look at him and his upbringing. He has been brought up in a royal family, stiff up a lip, blah, blah, and he's got the most hysterical, disgraceful, you know, horrendously attention.
Starting point is 00:30:26 seeking wife, it must be completely opposite to everything that he is... It's a bipolar, do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Complete bipolar. Absolutely. It's bizarre.
Starting point is 00:30:36 She's, like, she is, she wants to be photographed. She wants to be videoed. She wants to be in the limelight. She doesn't. She'd have only fans. She'd have only fans. She would.
Starting point is 00:30:46 That's, well, seriously, Megan's only fans will be coming, right? Because, guys, they don't have money. No. I mean, how are they going to pay for this house? They need their title stripped. Yeah. But their titles do need to be to stream.
Starting point is 00:30:58 It's beyond a joke now. I mean, Andrew's been, you know, shift. And they bring the family into disrepute. I don't necessarily believe wholeheartedly in the royal family anymore. I believe once the queen died, it was dead. It's gone. However, Megan and Harry are awful. You feel that Charles has waded too far into politics as support of the World Economic Forum, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:31:21 He might as well be a Muslim now. And his support of Islam. Yeah. I mean, I'm a royalist. I love the world back. I love, I'm a royalist. I love William. I love Kate and their kids.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I think the rest of them. I don't love Charles. No, I think Charles, I think, to be honest, I think Charles has a responsibility to deal with what is happening in this country as the head of, as the monarch. And I think he's failing miserably. But I think, to be fair, do you know where he strikes me as somebody, he's, he's an older man. Now he strikes me as just being exhausted. He just wants to go around, hucking trees.
Starting point is 00:31:50 He's involved in stuff that he shouldn't be involved in. He's, like, getting involved in net zero. I don't think he's involved. enough. No, but I don't think he should be trying to push certain politics and certain views because as a monarch, as a monarch, there is a role and there are certain things he shouldn't be involved in. And as a queen, you know that yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I do. She's a queen who's involved in all sorts of politics. Look, at number 43, actually another Ms. Markle moment. This is when she appeared on a podcast with another, to use all his term, media whore, This woman is called Jamie Kern Lima. I promise you, we never wanted to know about this woman. Unfortunately, she was introduced to us in 2025 because this was probably the most insufferable interview of the year
Starting point is 00:32:42 with certainly the most cringe-worthy moment. Watch. One of the things with parenting, you watch as you're building their confidence and their self-esteem, a word that I use a lot with them is yet, you know, how to reframe things for a kid when they're like, I can't do it. I can't do it yet. No, I'm not good enough. I'm not good enough yet. And the more that you put into practice these ideas of like put yet at the end of nearly every sentence and you feel like there's still hope and a promise that you can do it. Yes. But when I type that to my children before I go to bed, guess what? Like I'm
Starting point is 00:33:21 teaching that to them or I'm reinforcing that, but I'm also reinforcing it for myself. Yes. Like, I don't know yet. Yet. I'm not sure. I'm just going to say that applies to every adult. That applies to me right now, all of us. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah. I don't know what I'm doing. Yet. Yet. My business hasn't gotten traction yet. Yet. No one's picked up my book proposal yet. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I haven't found my soulmate yet. Yeah. Everything is yet. The power of yet. The power of yet. Shall we try it, guys? Shall we try it? Come on. Oh, go and go.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Sarah, I forgot to put my makeup on. Yes. I want to be natural. Yeah. Oh, it's... It's like an episode of friends. It's so like, oh my God. No, what you're doing, Megan, is you haven't...
Starting point is 00:34:10 You've been watching your nanny look after your kids. Yes. Yes. Please do not tell me. Oh, my God. She hasn't raised her kids. She's not raising her kids. It's a nanny all the time.
Starting point is 00:34:21 100%. And do you know what she was talking about in regards to that email? was that rather than actually spend time with her children, she claims that at the end of every day, she writes them a note on her computer, sends it to an email address for them to read when they're an adult, which seems like a ridiculous, performative move, which is actually nothing about, as you say, Sarah,
Starting point is 00:34:51 being a parent who's there for your children. She's awful. I'd like to get hurt and go in if parents, Kaltrow and put them in a cupboard and lock the door and never see them again. They are the most... Look at this thing here. Oh, yeah. They are...
Starting point is 00:35:04 I mean, who is this creature, this other one? Well, it's the only one that will give her any airtime, probably. Yet. I know, they are just, they're just so... Megan, I don't even know the word. We're best friends. Yet. Oh, it's vile.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It's... But the thing is, I think that interview was such an insight, right? because if you surround yourself with people like that, no wonder you believe that you're something, you're not. Yeah, absolutely. She's so unintelligent. Yeah. And a sycophant, it's total sycophon.
Starting point is 00:35:38 That's exactly the word. She's got like that, she's the best. Can you imagine how nauseating she must be to me married too? I know. I mean, and no. Which is why you see that misery from Harry. I mean, he just must, he just mistake. And the thing is with Harry, he can't, he just cannot say this has not.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I've made a mistake. No. He can't. He can't because it's just on every level, family, a nation, everything that he has done and sacrificed, he cannot now turn his back. Well, she entrapped him, but you're so right. He put everything on the life.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Everything. So his credibility is shot. He's shot anyway. If he admits this was a mistake. And of course he wants to. I mean, this is a very dysfunctional marriage. He's a very unhappy man. Now, I've been reporting for well over a year
Starting point is 00:36:19 that they are effectively living separate lives. but I don't think he can come back because I don't think we want him back I mean do you think the British people would forgive him now if he were to hold his hands up and say look this was just a terrible mistake if he came on and said and he did I could tell all and said
Starting point is 00:36:38 I made a terrible mistake you know I thought she was genuine I think he was a very bad judge of character but I think he's a bit thick to be honest I think he's a little bit sick and she did and she's awful massively she said actress she did know who he was
Starting point is 00:36:52 Oh, no, of course, stop. She didn't know who and she was. And, I mean, some of it, Sarah, was actually so twisted. Like, wearing Princess Diana's perfume. Oh. That's playing into his deep, me, me, me, me, me, yeah. His deep psychological is. She's a full, she's just a full-on actress.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And she's living in her own world. Yeah. She's, it's the Megan Markle world. You know, I haven't made it. I haven't made it to Queen. Yeah. Well, yeah. That's the other terrifying thing, though, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:24 That she genuinely still believes that there is a chance she will be Queen of England. And do you know what the thing is that really, any time you say, and back to the whole left narrative, any time you say you don't like her, people go, because you're racist. It doesn't, I don't care. I mean, she looks whiter than me. She's tried to make herself look non-black. It's nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:37:47 When she came onto the scene, everybody was like, you know what? that's brilliant, we're really happy for him and then when you started digging deep and she revealed herself and her nastiness people started turning on her and then when he then jumped or sort of went along with her and the whole thing went horribly pear shaped
Starting point is 00:38:04 everybody saw through her and that's when people turned it's nothing to do with it where she's from And it's awful that people say that. I've known people that have got close relations to the royal family and they were speaking to members of staff and they said that Kate is always very
Starting point is 00:38:20 respectful. The Queen was always very respectful to, to, um, staff members. And Megan treated staff members like shit. She did. She's prima donna. She absolutely did. And I think it's really important actually to raise both of those points. Firstly, that, her behaviour. Yeah. It was appalling. But all are also that the British public have been completely misrepresented by this couple for over five years now. I mean, I remember covering that way. And I was there with Megan Kelly. Actually, she was at NBC at the time. And honestly, it was one of the best moments outside of the London 2012 Olympics.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Like when I look back at the last 20 years, I'm like, you've got William and Catherine's wedding, you've got the Olympics and you've got Harry and Megan's wedding. We were completely united. Okay, if we were such a racist country, Ola, do you think we would have been celebrating that wedding in that way? Do you know what? the British people love Diana right now for all her mistakes and all her you know issues that she had and whatever is irrelevant everybody loved Diana and when she died and those boys were all were left
Starting point is 00:39:33 without a mum and they were little kids the British people took them under their wing and adored them there was nothing that they could do was wrong so when Harry met her and they had a party at my house and we all me too jazz and we were like this is fabulous and we were like her dress is amazing and blah and everyone was so there is nothing more frustrating than once again the British public are labelled and by her when she went on opera Oprah and when she went on there and she said they're racist how dare you
Starting point is 00:40:02 how dare you were a nobody when you was welcomed in to this country and in the Netflix show remember we were presented as being backward racist because of Brexit yeah yeah she's just she has used the British people to make her famous she's used and now she's drop them to keep her relevant and no wonder she's so hated and do you know what it is not going to end well for her it is not going to end well and the more and you know what i actually get so angry when i think about her and the way she treated kate as well i love kate i feel like i know kate i love her i love you feel like you know everyone but you don't know her yet but it was revolted and i think sarah i'm so glad that you have made the point about the way that katherine
Starting point is 00:40:42 can can treat stuff and the way that the late queen elizabeth the second treated stuff as well Yeah, 100%. And also, there was an understanding when you were part of the Royal Institution. Actually, courtiers and staff members of the Royal Institution, they get a lot of perks, but they do not get paid a lot of money, right? But they are part of something special. This is not like turning up for a normal job, right? They work 24-7.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But Megan was treating them like scum. She was treating them like the dirt on the sole of her shoes, because that is a Hollywood way of doing things, right? And also, with all due respect, they come from, the queen has been brought up as a queen. She's been brought up in that environment. Of course. Megan has been, came from nothing. And rather than saying, you know, I am blessed and privileged, I'm going to treat people as I would want to be treated, she then turns the other way, which just shows a lack of class.
Starting point is 00:41:34 She did like it. You can take the girl out of the skull, right? Yeah, but remember, she was treating people like this before she was in the royal family. That's the thing. This is part of her personality. Absolutely. Because I remember speaking to a director of one of Megan's. films, um, which she used to shoot between series of suits, right? And I mean, it's so funny when
Starting point is 00:41:54 you think back, like these were like straight to DVD type releases, like not big movies. But her demands, this director said, were worse than any other actor he had worked with and he had worked with true A listers. She would demand private jets if there was not a first class flight available. Because you know, between European countries, like, like, because they were filming an East in Europe, and, you know, from London to Europe, there's no such thing as first class. Most flights don't even have a business class option. And he was like, are you kidding? Like, you think our small production has the ability to fly you on a private jet?
Starting point is 00:42:31 Like, you're nuts. But that's how she thinks. She thought she was Beyonce then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she literally, she is a social climber and she wanted to marry. She was after, who was the footballer she was after first? Ashley Cole. Ashley Cole.
Starting point is 00:42:46 So she come to the UK. She said to her friends, this is what happened in the beginning, and I've got this from a very reliable source, she said to her friend, I want to come to the UK because I want to meet an Arab prince. Right? She said she got ginger one. She got a ginger one.
Starting point is 00:43:02 That's what she was lining herself up to have the money. Because she wanted the money. She's a media horse. Yeah, that's it. She's a money or she wants. And even now, she doesn't have the money that she wants. It was never enough. You wait until she will dump, she will drop Harry and she will move on and she will find
Starting point is 00:43:21 herself somebody else. It will be some kind of older, really rich man. Tycoo. Well, an Arab Prince. You watch, you watch, you watch, you watch. Are they like one her now? She's got kids. She's damaged now.
Starting point is 00:43:32 She's damaged now. She's damaged goods. And yes, face it, the Americans don't really like her because the Americans love the British. Yes. Well, what we have seen this year is a lot of real celebrities absolutely say. They know the people that we want to have a connection with are the British Royal Family. And I'm talking major celebrities. You know, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, who have aligned themselves with William and Catherine
Starting point is 00:43:55 rather than Megan and Harry, because at the end of the day, like, if you compare Harry and Megan's fame in America to Taylor Swift or Lady Gaga, they're not even close. Whereas William and Catherine have something which is untouchable. And the thing is, Harry and Megan had the opportunity to have that. They did. They could have been a perfect example. But it would have meant not being about making money. and actually caring about your causes.
Starting point is 00:44:17 She was never going to come second fiddle to Kate. She was never going to come back. No, she couldn't cope with it. Yeah, she couldn't. And the jealousy, you can see the jealousy. And Kate has... Grace. She's just fabulous.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Well, she hated her cottage, didn't she, inside the grounds of Kensington Palace? But again, when we say a cottage, it's the type of house that you or me would die to even spend a night in, right? You're on Kensington High Street. But because William and Catherine had a bigger apartment within Kensington Palace,
Starting point is 00:44:43 because of course he's the heir to the throne, they weren't happy about it. So it's bad. Anyway, we don't go. We love a role. But another despicable Megan Michael moment actually lands at number 42. Once it was revealed that she ripped off her podcast, confessions of a female founder from a young woman called Katie Mite,
Starting point is 00:45:04 who you'd think was exactly the type of person Megan would want to back. Watch. Hey, guys. My name's Katie. I'm founder and owner of Ville. Street. It's so excited to kick off today's video and I want to give you guys a grand welcome to episode one of Confessions of a Female Founder. Tell All Series where I share my experiences and advice as a 23 year old entrepreneur. I've been in business since the age of 16.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Okay, so this is actually nuts. That podcast was launched back in October of 2023, whereas Megan's Flop podcast was launched in April this year. So she literally stole it. Who's advising her? Who is her advisor? No, she doesn't take advice. Because she's got that awe about her. She believes that she's the greatest.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Let's be clear. An entrepreneur is somebody that has created something from nothing with very little help normally. They've created an idea. They've worked their asses off. You know, they've done this. What has Megan ever done? How could she even put herself in the same room here?
Starting point is 00:46:10 I'm an entrepreneur yet. What I mean? No. He's not done anything. Again, she is completely deluded. I actually don't think she's... Is it imposter syndrome? I really think she's mental.
Starting point is 00:46:22 A lot of people do think that now. I think she is because she's just... Do you know what? She's got this. Well, it's... I think it's a combination of being a psychopath and a sociopath at the same time. Yeah, definitely. Because otherwise, why would you...
Starting point is 00:46:33 Number one, rip off a podcast from a woman like that? She probably doesn't even think. No. She probably sees it and goes, I want, I want, I want, I want, yes. But then, as you say, launch a podcast about being a great businesswoman when you are literally the biggest flop of a businesswoman in the world. And then the podcast was such a disaster. She had to cancel it after one series.
Starting point is 00:46:53 She couldn't even take direction from the royal family on how to act like a lady and just turn up to events. That would have been quite simple. Exactly. People would have paid her to wear their clothes. People would have paid her to do all these things and be an ambassador. Instead, people want to distance themselves. That show, she's not an entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And she moaned this year about the fact that the royal family had suggested. that she wore pantyhoes, right, to royal functions. Now, that was something that the late queen believed in. Agreed. Of course it was her personal choice, but it's like, what's wrong with that? What you were controlled because the late queen suggested you wore panty hose? Because she was an old, because she was an old-fashioned lady. And wearing, you know, wearing, not having bare legs, bare legs used to be considered to be a bit sluttie.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yes. And I remember when I started working in the city, a long time ago we were not allowed to have nail varnish or bare legs you had to wear tights or stockings
Starting point is 00:47:51 and you had to have clear nails and that was it and that's you either conformed or you didn't work that was how it was so her saying no I want to why can't she just do
Starting point is 00:47:59 what she's told or ask do what she's ass now and again there's a like you have to uphold certain standards and as the royal family
Starting point is 00:48:08 anyone as a member of the royal family has a duty to withhold them standards because you are representing the whole of Great Britain. She does everything she can to be destructive. That's the point. Because it's the Meghan show.
Starting point is 00:48:23 It's the Megan show. It's the Megan show. And do you know what? Actually, being the last year, being not involved in politics, but having liaised with people in politics, the mindset that I've found of some people who I actually think are a little bit suspect, like you say, So should have. They don't seem to think that there's anything more.
Starting point is 00:48:44 what they do. They hurt people. They disrespect people. It's no accountability. And it rolls off the, like a doubt. If I thought that I'd upset somebody or I'd humiliated myself, which happens quite often. But anyway, if I thought that I'd done something that was considered to be immoral or nasty or I would be so apologetic. And I'd say, I'm so sorry, and humble. They've got they haven't got the ability to do it yet. But they haven't got the ability to do it. It's a really, it's a bad, bad training people. It really is. Yeah. They're so, They're so up themselves, so. This is the problem.
Starting point is 00:49:16 We've met these tidal of time again throughout this year every day. And I think we've had it with those people, actually, we've had it. And look, actually, on that point, at number 41, on our list of the worst moments of 2025, is the sickening plot from the MSM to destroy the Patriot Thomas Skinner after he signed for the BBC's Strictly come dancing because he happens to be right wing. That is why they destroyed her. So the MSN became desperate to reveal a personal story they hoped would bring down the former Apprentice Star after he was invited to a barbecue held by Vice President J.D. Vance.
Starting point is 00:49:57 The son led an investigation into a previous affair and prepared to publish the story which led the businessman to feel as though he had been forced into a corner and partake in the following interview, I think was just evil on the part of the sun. Watch. Three and a half years ago, a long time ago now, but made the biggest mistake of my life. I got asked to do like a free bit of treatment
Starting point is 00:50:30 of attractive women, I suppose. Seemed a nice person. There was a single mum. I'm just trying to help to make their business. made the biggest mistake of my life and had a fling I suppose. Like it was nothing more than that. It was the one time. It was a mistake. You know, I woke up feeling absolutely terrible about it.
Starting point is 00:50:54 My wife, since I met her, I changed my life around. And I let her down in that brief moment of madness where I weren't thinking, where I didn't appreciate what I had. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry. Now, look, of course, all of us here will feel desperately sorry for Thomas Skinner's wife, right? And it goes without saying that none of us think that adultery or cheating on your loyal wife is a good thing. So let's park that there for one moment, though, because I think what happened to Thomas Skinner was chilly. Because it was nothing to do with this affair, which had happened years and years earlier.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And he was completely distraught. what happened is the mainstream media and the political class decided we've got to destroy this guy because he'd had that meeting with J.D. Vance. His posts on X all up were like exploding and he was a serious threat. For a while it was like, God, this guy could actually run against Sadiq Khan. He could beat Sadiq Khan.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And so they destroyed him. Do you know what? And it sort of worked. It did. I was saying to stare on the way, I met him and his wife and the kids on holiday this summer. The nicest man you could ever meet. Genuine, generous, people flock to him
Starting point is 00:52:17 because he is just so transparent and to destroy. And it's always those people they destroy because they are scared. They're terrified that Joe Bloggs public like them. If you are liked and you are seen as one of the people, they will bring you down as good. And do you know what? He adores his wife. I said this to you tonight, these little kids.
Starting point is 00:52:36 we all make mistakes and I mean if we could and do you know what he's honest and he's saying I'm sorry I made a mistake
Starting point is 00:52:44 we're human beings he could have lied and denied it and made every excuse under the sun like the majority of people do when they mess up but his genuine
Starting point is 00:52:53 remorse for what he's done is so obvious what is going to happen is people like him and people of his ilk that the public like the more and more they were attacked
Starting point is 00:53:06 and the more they are pulled down, the more publicity they're going to get and the more popular they will become. Because people are fed up with the destroying of decent human beings. When you get people like Megan, back to her, put on a pedestal, when people can see through, she's disingenuous,
Starting point is 00:53:20 dishonest and not liked, but they're the ones that are made the heroes. And you know what? I love, honestly, the nicest man you can meet. And he bought me loads of drinks, which in my book, in my book, makes it real. That was it. Doesn't matter what you done. You can buy me as many drinks you want. I will love you.
Starting point is 00:53:36 People flocked him. Do you know Tom? No, I've never met him. Because you're both Essex. Yeah, no, I've never met him. I've heard always good things about him. And at the end of the day, when did it become anyone's business? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:47 What has gone on in his relationship. That's for him and his wife to deal with. And if she's still with him and supportive of him, it's none of our business. No. I don't know. And also, who decides who's far right? This is what I don't get because of his post. Who decides?
Starting point is 00:54:06 What's he done that's far right? What's he walked around with a soft of a doctor? I guarantee you, the far right, who is actually the far right, wouldn't like him. He would be too, bosh. He's a liberal, right? It's crazy. You know what? He's a white East End man who lives in Essex.
Starting point is 00:54:21 He's a bit of a geyser. He talks like that. He loves everyone. Bosch, Bosch, Bosch. Oh, you've got, you're a gammon, right wing. 100%. And actually, he's the type of person that our elite class should be embracing. I mean, he's everything we want our people to be right.
Starting point is 00:54:36 gets up first thing in the morning. Every day he's on that damn market stall because he's going to provide a life for his family come hell or high water. 100%. But I think it was the JD Vance moment though, actually more than strictly. Jealousy.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yep. Jealousy. That's all it's about. Because it's like they think someone like Tom Skinner doesn't have a right to even be in the same room as J.D. Agreed. Let alone at a barbecue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:00 So like Benjamin Bunn, for instance, he would look at Tom and he would be disgusted by because he's uneducated. He's uneducated. he's common, he's everything I'm not blah blah the arrogance of those lefties and the liberals they literally think that they're
Starting point is 00:55:13 they literally think that they are above the law and actually I guarantee you that Tom Skinner were buy and sell them all day long because he's got common sense and this is the problem
Starting point is 00:55:23 the people that are in the elite who believe that none of us should have people got the up with me going to Poland because you shouldn't have been there I shouldn't have been with Dominic Trisinski why is she there she's just a commoner
Starting point is 00:55:35 from the East And you were there with Tommy Robinson and Little Tour and Liam Taft. But then what happens, you don't just get it from the left. You get it from people on the right who are like, well, why is she there and I'm not? So there's a real problem. There's a real problem. And it's like, go and make it happen for yourself. That is the point.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Anyone can make this happen for yourself. I mean, I'm reading J.D. Vance's book at the moment. I've previously watched the movie. But, you know, the really inspiring thing about J.D. Vance is he came from one of the most underprivileged parts of the United States of America. he is now vice president he broke the cycle you know his mother was this drug addict who's also broken the cycle now
Starting point is 00:56:13 and it's like let's embrace that his story is incredible they're jealous they're jealous they sit on their keyboards slagging people of me me me me they've got 100 accounts at home in their pants I can't even run one
Starting point is 00:56:27 and they're just like yeah and a lot of them on benefits by the way and guess who's not on benefits Tom Skinner And you're looking down on them. How dare you? How dare you? Bosch.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Bosch. Bosch. Now look, ladies, you have been two of my favourite guests this year. So how can people find out more about you? Where are you? Where can people follow you? We're normally a naping on a Sunday at the Bell Hotel. No, yeah, we, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I mean, it has been big for you, hasn't it? It has. We've got our separate ways. Not like, look. Ola doesn't like me anymore. No, it's not. You're in different political parties, but the pink ladies continue. Oh my God, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And can I just say, the best moment for me of 2025 was that Advance UK become an actual party. Yes, yes. So, you know. We were talking about our friendship. You have to bring back to Ben, don't you? I love Ben. Well, look, some exciting news. Ben is one of the nicest people in this country.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Sorry on a lot. Ben Habib is actually going to be here on Friday. He's going to do the final top 10 in this countdown. So we will have some Ben. to be British presentation. He's here along with Dominic Frisbee later in the week. But look, pink ladies continues into 2026. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:40 So, look, we, the pink ladies came around by default. And Sarah and I were there in the beginning at the protest and Epping. Yeah. And we're not, by saying we're not the leaders or the founders. There are, there is no leaders. There are no followers, right? But were you friends before that? We'd met, we'd met with reform.
Starting point is 00:57:58 So we basically sat a branch in November. In November last year. So just over a year ago. So you met via reform. We met via reform. our first branch meeting, and we just became friends. Don't know how. Don't know how.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And then she, yeah, I gave her a lift and she commented on my driving. And anyway, so we became friends. We lived down the road from each other. Yeah. She's a lot younger than me. I know you can't tell. But Sarah's children. I would have said you were both 32.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Oh, I know. Oh, we love you. But Sarah, strangely, Sarah's son played at the same football team as my son. So there was a lot of, yeah, there was a lot of connections, yeah. So we became friends. Sorry, Ola had never turned up to a game. No, she had. Shut up, you.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I was there at the side. Yeah, she went. So anyway, when the bells started, and then we got together, and we started, we started doing the protests, and then the pink ladies sort of came about. Mainly, in fairness, because we've got a group of women in Epping, 20, 30 women, who are probably 50 to 80 years old, who are hardcore, you know, patriotic, they've got kids and grandchildren, and they will be out there. They'll be out there tonight. They'll be out over Christmas and they will not back down. And because of their strength, they've used Sarah and I as almost ambassadors, so media ambassadors if you like.
Starting point is 00:59:12 But by no means would we be where we are without their backbos, right? So then obviously Canary Wharf and Cheson started. And then both of us started getting so much male and messages. From women up and down the country, Cobra, Inverness, Manchester Leeds, everywhere saying this is happening to us. We want to do what you've done in Epping. Now, the ladies in Epping are all EastEnders, right? They've all come from East End, they're hard as nails, they've got no fear. And I think that what's happened is they've inspired women up and down the country
Starting point is 00:59:44 that they can do the same. Because they were such a range of age. Yeah, exactly. What was that woman? She nearly 90. And she was nearly arrested, wasn't she? And she basically told the policeman, she was like, come on then. Anyway, but.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Sat on the floor. Yeah, she was like really belligerent. Yeah. So this is just given women and mothers and grandmothers the opportunity to say, do you know what, we're not far right, we're not thugs, we don't wear masks, but we have had enough and we are not going to back down. We have been called everything under the sun. We've been threatened.
Starting point is 01:00:19 We've been, you know, shouted at, spat out, you name it. We've had it. By everybody. By the left and by the illegal migrants in the hotel, you know, them exposing themselves to us. Yeah, who, by the way, are assisted by the left. Well, look, I love it. I love that this friendship has blossomed and helped change the country in 2025. And I really do mean that.
Starting point is 01:00:39 The Pink Ladies Movement was something that needed to emerge. And I think of those days over summer, initially ignored, actually, by the mainstream media. But thanks to you guys, the Pink Ladies on social media, then the Independent Media, actually, this became a movement that the regime and the establishment was unable to ignore. And that's what we've got to do. We have to use our voice and make it so loud because they want to try and ignore us, but eventually they realise they couldn't.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And also, I've loved having you both. Thank you. Yeah, no, it's been great. It's being great. We've loved it. So thank you for everything you've done in 2025 and cannot wait to see what you do in 2026 now. Happy new year.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Exactly. Just a couple of days to go. And in fact, we are going to be continuing our countdown all week. So tomorrow, Russell Quirk and Peter C. Barnes joining me on the Superstar panel. That's at 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hit subscribe right now on YouTube. And remember our uncanceled aftershow returns on Substack on Monday next Monday.
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