Dan Wootton Outspoken - MSM MELTDOWN ON GMB & LBC OVER STARMER'S "ENOCH POWELL SPEECH" AS NIGEL FARAGE LASHES OUT

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Get 25% Off @goPure with code DAN at https://www.gopurebeauty.com/DAN #goPurepod It was as predictable as night following day. The moment Slippery Starmer even thought about reducing our insane migra...tion levels – even though his plan has more holes than Swiss cheese – would spark an absolute meltdown by our out of control MSM, elite class and Westminster swamp figures. In his Digest, Dan takes on these out of touch woketopians and the damage they continue to cause with their politically correct platitudes while being completely devoid of the reality of the shocking state the UK is in. Then analysis from Dr Philip Kiszely, cultural historian, academic, author, political commentator and senior fellow at the New Culture Forum. PLUS: The Ofcommunists strike again. This time they’re trying to silence Nigel Farage on GB News altogether as they tighten regulation of news presenters hosting shows. AND: Ed Sheeran has just exposed the myth of London under its failed Mayor Sadiq Khan, revealing to Theo Von that every part of the city is now dangerous. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: The left-wing New York Times has launched a shock attack on King Charles and Prince William, blaming the British Royal Family for Prince Harry’s isolation. We’ll find out what’s going on with the Duke’s biographer and our Royal Mastermind Angela Levin. Sign up to watch at www.outspoken.live. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There are very few things that you can be certain of in life. But you can always be sure the sun will rise each morning. You can bet your bottom dollar that you'll always need air to breathe and water to drink. And, of course, you can rest assured that with Public Mobile's 5G subscription phone plans, you'll pay the same thing every month. With all of the mysteries that life has to offer, a few certainties can really go a long way. Subscribe today for the peace of mind you've been searching for. Public Mobile. Different is calling. When does fast grocery delivery through
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Starting point is 00:01:14 the biggest fan of me in the entire world. It is my mother. I absolutely adore her, Mary Wooten. She's waking up in New Zealand right now, the 14th of May, one year before a very big birthday. And actually, that's when she came in to the Outspoken studio where you can listen to our interview where she dishes on me. And, Mum, I love you so much. I know you're going to be with my sister, Ash, and my niece, Ivy Dan, late today. And I cannot wait to speak to you then. On with the show, though. It was as predictable as night following day, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:51 The moment Slippery Starmer even thought about reducing our insane migration levels, even though his plan, let's be honest, has more holes than Swiss cheese. It was just so predictable that it would spark an absolute meltdown by our out-of-control MSM elite class and Westminster swamp. Do you feel like a stranger on your island? Well, I live in the most diverse city in the UK, London. We're in it now. And I don't feel like a stranger. No.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I feel like I'm in a really rich, multicultural society. In London, I live in... But am I out of touch with people who this phrase is going to chime with? Because I don't really understand. Messenger chose to use those phrases, and he's your mate, Keir Starmer. Yeah, well, I mean, if you listen to the Prime Minister's speech he also talked about diversity being a strength he recognised. But I'm not asking you
Starting point is 00:02:50 respectfully, I'm not asking you about those bits, I'm asking you how you feel about these bits specifically. Squalid chapter. He's talking about your parents and an island of strangers. He's talking about you. In my digest next, I'll take on those out-of-touch of touch woke topians and also point
Starting point is 00:03:07 out the damage they continue to cause with their politically correct platitudes while being completely devoid of the reality of the shocking state we're in and actually the reality of most of the lives ordinary people like us lead then analysis from from Dr. Philip Casali, cultural historian, academic, author, political commentator, and senior fellow at the New Culture Forum. Also coming up on the show today, the off-communist strike again, this time silencing Nigel Farage on GB News, trying to ban them altogether as they tighten regulation of news presenters hosting shows. Woke ITV's Good Morning Britain is in crisis as channel bosses consider a devastating merger with ITV News as MSM ratings continue to plummet. And Ed Sheeran has just exposed the myth of London
Starting point is 00:04:01 under its failed Mayor Sadiq Khan, revealing to Theo Vaughan that every part of the city is now dangerous. We'll analyse. Then in the uncancelled after show on Substack, the left-wing New York Times has launched a shock attack on King Charles and Prince William, blaming the British royal family for Prince Harry's isolation. So we're going to find out what's going on. We know the New York Times just hates anything to do with Britain, right? With the Duke's biographer, our royal mastermind,
Starting point is 00:04:29 Angela Levin, you can sign in to watch www.outspoken.live. Just enter your email address and join the fun. We'll also, of course, reveal the greatest Britain and Union jackass at the end of the show. So lots of reason to stick with us. If you're watching live on YouTube, you can also vote for the Union Jackass right now in the live chat. But let me show you today's nominees. David Tennant, nominated by Darren Donaldson for being vocal against women's rights. Now, an Irish producer has said of him, one of the three most dislikable people I have ever had the misfortune to spend time with. And apparently his new TV show, Genius Games, is being reduced to one show a week after disastrous ratings. Darren says, go woke, go broke. Susanna Reid, nominated by Anna Ireland for saying
Starting point is 00:05:19 maybe she's out of touch, but thinks London is rich and diverse multiculturalism. We're going to talk about that in just a moment. And Ian Dale, nominated by L2323 for his weird and unhinged rant on LBC. So get voting. Three interesting choices today. Let me know your comments. I'll read out some of the best at the end of the show too. But now, let's go. No wonder nothing bloody ever changes. The UK diversity melting pot open border strategy
Starting point is 00:05:54 has been an utter disaster. We all know it. Any sane human being living in our once great nation knows it. And unless you're in some type of ivory tower, you can see it every day. Enoch Powell may have used some ungraceful language 60 years ago, but the man was right. Two thirds of Brits knew it back then, yet they were ignored at the time. Indeed, anyone who has questioned mass uncontrolled immigration to the tune of over a million a year, let alone the illegal invasion of our country's southern border, letting in rapists, murderers and terrorists who hate us, anyone who's done that has been derided as a racist, shunned from the discussion and ultimately ignored. So what happened when Slippery Starmer, even though, and I really should stress this,
Starting point is 00:06:52 even though he doesn't believe a word of what he said and there are more holes in the Prime Minister's plan than Swiss cheese, but look at what happened when he started using Enoch Powell's language. Without them, we risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together. They found themselves made strangers in their own country so you can see there quite clearly that line in starmer's speech was based on enoch powell's 1968 rivers of blood address and as a result of that rather than actually consider the huge damage that mass uncontrolled immigration is doing to destroy our country every single day. Instead of that, what has ensued is total legacy media meltdown. Susanna Reid of Good Morning Britain led the charge of the media lovies who have no idea,
Starting point is 00:08:01 no idea what their viewers are having to live through on a daily basis. Do you feel like a stranger on your island? Well, I live in the most diverse city in the UK, London. We're in it now. And I don't feel like a stranger. No. I feel like I'm in a really rich, multicultural society. In London, I live in...
Starting point is 00:08:25 But am I out of touch with people who this phrase is going to chime with? Because I don't really understand. Now, that tone-deaf response provoked outrage. So much so, actually, that I decided to respond to my former colleague because I was outraged. I wrote, Dear Susanna Reid, yes, you are horribly out of touch. It stuns me that you cannot see the destruction of London. My partner's sister arrived from Scotland last week and was mugged within one minute of leaving
Starting point is 00:08:56 the tube station. Stop the platitudes, wake up and serve your audience. And then one of the outspoken audience, oh my God, you guys are good, actually pointed out that she's clearly not saying what she feels, but rather what she feels she has to say, given, look at this, Susanna Reid had previously moaned about her mugging ordeal. And Kevin Maguire, her champagne socialist colleague, was sitting there saying most people like the change when talking about the fast warp speed revision of our demography. That is sick. And by the way, I do note Maguire spends time in a nice seaside apartment in Whitley Bay, an area in the northeast that isn't plagued by immigration. Surprise, surprise. Oh, and Susanna lives in Bellum, one of the least diverse parts of
Starting point is 00:09:52 London. Then there's Ian Dale on the Labour Broadcasting Company, the worst sort of conservative wet who actually believed that he should become a Tory MP? to a Labour Prime Minister, a Labour Prime Minister, making such what I thought were incendiary comments about immigration. Not once did he really mention any benefits from migration. And in one speech, to me, he lost all of the credit that he's built up for his handling of foreign policy. And then he starts talking about an island of strangers. Therefore, undermining all the careful community cohesion and good relations between our various communities that have built up over the past decades. In one stroke, he's
Starting point is 00:10:55 managed to do that. I think it's an absolute disgrace. How can that man call himself a conservative? I am so glad that man didn't end up in public office. Now, Sly News have again been plain activists rather than journalists. Watch. There are certain places in this country where people are not living side by side, where we are a very divided, segregated society. If you look at the centre of Bradford, for example, 50% of people were not born in the UK. If you look at the centre of Luton, almost 50% of people only arrived in the UK in the last 10 years. If you look at parts of Dagenham, the white British population has reduced by 50% in the last 25 years. Is that a problem?
Starting point is 00:11:48 I think, well, the pace of change is immense, and people are sick of that. People want to see mass migration ended. They want to return to the levels of immigration that we have enjoyed as a country. Why is it a problem if the percentage of white people has fallen or risen? Because you can't successfully integrate people at this speed into our country. But why does the colour of their skin matter?
Starting point is 00:12:12 It's not about the colour of someone's skin. It's about whether or not someone has just arrived in our country. And if you have places... But that is a different point, then. If you have places... That is a different point. If you have places like the centre of Bradford, where half the population has only just arrived in our country, how can you expect those people to know our history, our heritage,
Starting point is 00:12:30 our norms, our traditions, to be well integrated? If you see profound change in a community like Dagenham, where within 25 years the people living in the community has changed almost beyond recognition, understandably some people who live there will feel that the place that they knew no longer exists. And that is why people are so frustrated and angry at the decisions that politicians have made in recent years, why we have to take action. I mean, Robert Jenrock put it perfectly there, but sly news will never understand.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And of course, James O'Brien, the lowest of the low, now finally starting to turn on his beloved two-tier Keir and trying to get his BFF, London's failed Mayor Sadiq Khan, to join the condemnation. Messenger chose to use those phrases and he's your mate Keir Starmer. Yeah, well, I mean, if you listen to the Prime minister's speech, he also talked about diversity being a strength. But I'm not asking you respectfully. I'm not asking you about those bits. I'm asking you how you feel about these bits specifically. Squalid chapter. He's talking about your parents and an island of strangers.
Starting point is 00:13:38 He's talking about you. I think from the passage in the speech you're referring to is the promises made by Brexiteers to, in inverted commas, take back control. The highest numbers of net migration have been in the most recent years, 900,000, 700,000, 600,000. I think, and you'll correct me,
Starting point is 00:13:58 that's what he's referring to, what he was not referring to, because I know how rich his constituency is in relation to the contribution made by migrants, is a contribution we make to this multicultural capital city and country. How do you feel to hear, feel to hear a Labour Prime Minister talking about a squalid, that word squalid chapter? Not an unacceptable chapter or an unreasonable or an unsustainable chapter, a squalid chapter and an island of strangers. Well, those aren't words that I'd use.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So he finally got there. But of course, if any listener, if any of the people paying his wages actually tried to tell James O'Brien the reality of their lived experience, a concept I thought the left embraced, they were immediately shut down. Large parts of the country and large parts of towns and cities up and down this country
Starting point is 00:14:51 have a large influx of people from an area of the world where they don't necessarily, one, understand culture of the UK. I don't know if you could name what the culture of the UK is. Why don't you? Because I'm making a point, buddy. I know, buddy, but what is the culture of the UK that you don't feel people are properly absorbing? You've just said that they're not properly observing the culture of the UK, and you said you may not know what it is, so I asked you to clarify for me.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah, so what is it? What question are you want answered? The question that you posed at the beginning of the hour? No, the question that you prompted by the quality of your contribution has posed the question of what this culture of the UK is that you're talking about. We can't go on with the conversation until we've nailed down what it is. How's that, though, James?
Starting point is 00:15:39 You're asking a question about... Why can't you tell me what it is? You're criticising people who don't know what the culture of the UK is, so you must be able to tell me. This is mad. When have I criticised that? I was literally making a round point, of which that was one of them. So what is the culture of the UK? The culture of the UK is probably a lot of different things, James,
Starting point is 00:15:57 that if you let me carry on the answer to the question you actually posed, opposed to the question that you want to pose now... So you can't tell me. You crack on, answer whatever question you want. I can't be arsed, buddy. Have a good day. That went well, didn't it, buddy? Culture of the UK, they don't absorb the culture of the... What is it? Absolutely no idea, but I'm absolutely furious with the people that can't answer that question. Oh, whoops, I'm one of them.
Starting point is 00:16:20 To be honest, everyone should deal with James O'Brien just like that. I can't be arsed. None of us can be arsed with that rubbish anymore. Because, of course, the political class are such a problem. And they're proving they're a problem again. Because they are horrified that Slippery Starver is betraying their decades-long decision to go with a narrative that shrouds the truth. A woman elected as a Labour MP currently suspended, Zahra Sultana, groaned, the Prime Minister imitating Enoch Powell's rivers of blood speech is sickening.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That speech fuelled decades of racism and division, echoing it today. It's a disgrace. It adds to anti-migrant rhetoric that puts lives at risk. Shame on you, Starmer. Well, I would argue that the thing that's putting lives at risk is allowing murderers, rapists, terrorists into the United Kingdom in an invasion of our southern border without knowing who the hell these people are. Actual Labour MP, Asparna Bergham wrote, suggesting that the UK risk becoming an island of strangers due to immigration is a leaf out of the far-right's playbook. We know where it leads and we will keep standing up against the scaremongering of migrants and the pandering to
Starting point is 00:17:38 racism by the political and media class. Okay, so let me just think about what she's saying there. 75% of the country, far right. That's the case, fine, but you're slurring us all. That crazy lefty on X, though, Super Tansky, has given us all a little bit of joy, though, by claiming Starmer's speech will cause her to emigrate, writing, I don't want to live in the UK anymore because after one term with this bullshit, you're going to hand it to reform or just be like all the other far-right pricks. So I'm already trying to see if I could live in France. You're absolute effing idiots. That prompted Nick Dixon to post, it's working already. Then you've got the anti-white ex-Scottish first minister, Humza Useless, who was, by the way, the leader of a 96% white country,
Starting point is 00:18:36 who's also gone totally ballistic. Keir Starmer is right. Look at the state of those immigrants. Coming to this country, creating jobs, working in our hospitals, taking care of our elderly, winning Olympic gold medals for Britain, even winning Strictly Come Dancing. Honestly, who do they think they are? Max and Spencer, Tesco, New Look, Deliveroo, the biggest names on the high street in tech that we use every day, founded by immigrants and the children of immigrants. Honestly, what would Britain do without immigrants?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Well, for one, probably not be able to see a doctor, given over a third of doctors working in NHS England are of non-British nationality. Immigrants also contribute a net £6 billion to the UK economy every year. And one in seven businesses in Britain is reportedly started by an immigrant. That's not draining Britain, that's driving Britain. Blaming migrants is the easy, populous thing to do. Go rot, useless. Jeremy Corbyn took his anti-reform grievances to Parliament. I'm happy to avoid.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I don't know if she's most generous with her time, but she will be aware that today over 600 illegal migrants have entered this country. They could get up to all sorts of mischief, commit crimes, and maybe even acts of terrorism. So does she agree with me that these young men crossing the Channel should be immediately detained and deported, along with the Member for Islington? Minister. a'r cyfnodau sy'n cael ei ddweud y byddai'r dynion hynny'n cyrraedd y canol yn gyflawni a'u ddewis yn gyflawni gyda'r aelod o Islington. Y Llywydd. Y Llywydd.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Rwy'n sicr yn gobeithio y byddai'r sylw hwnnw'n ddewis, ond rwy'n meddwl a oes y math o trafod cyfrifol y bobl sy'n ymwneud â'r wlad hon, os ydym ni allan o'r GIG, fel y byddai eisiau, yn dod yn fynod i'r reformaeth. Rydyn ni'n Llywodraeth sy'n cynnig llaw. Mae'r Prif Weinidog yn cael gwirioneddol iawn i'w sylw a gwirioneddol iawn i'w gyd-ddweud o unrhyw ffordd y ystafell y mae'n eistedd. Rwyf wedi gweithio gyda'i gilydd a gafodd llawer o from whatever side of the House that he sits. And I've personally worked with him and I have a great deal of respect for him. So I'm quite shocked that the Honourable Gentleman thinks that that's an appropriate thing to say in this place.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Now, a committee stage... Of course, Nigel Farage, who once asked Enoch Powell to endorse him as a UKIP candidate in the 90s, is attempting to play both sides here. Watch this reporting from Newsnight. Concerns. Amongst some in the Labour Party, the Prime Minister was echoing the language of Enoch Powell in his notorious Rivers of Blood speech in 1968.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And it's interesting, I caught up a few hours ago with Nigel Farage and, you know, it's not rocket science that some of that speech was aimed at answering the threat from Reform UK in the local elections. And Nigel Farage thinks it was a big mistake, he says, for the Prime Minister to echo the language of Enoch Powell. He talks about how it was a strategic mistake. And he told me the use of that language was not in Keir Starmer's interest. It's a catastrophic mistake that will divide the left for years to come. So what was Starmer saying? What was Powell saying? So the Prime Minister was saying, I welcome immigration, but we need
Starting point is 00:22:09 fair rules. And he says in that clip that you played at the top, in a diverse nation like ours, and I celebrate this, these rules become even more important. Without them, we risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together. Similar language, different context from Enoch Powell. He was talking about how immigrants coming to this country have enjoyed privileges and opportunities different to the experience of the existing population. And then he said this, for reasons which they could not comprehend and in pursuance of a decision by default on which they were never consulted they found themselves made strangers in their own
Starting point is 00:22:46 country so Keir Starmer was saying it's about rules Enoch Powell was saying it's the implication of having migrants in this country obviously important to say that Nigel Farage very much in his interest to drive a wedge between Labour and the parties to his left well, you could argue that. But there does seem to be little doubt Starmer purposefully invoked Enoch Powell for PR purposes as Downing Street has actually stood by the comments today. Baroness Foster would care Starmer have known the similarities between the language that he used in his speech today
Starting point is 00:23:21 and the phrase used by Enoch Powell all those years ago. Somebody did in Downing Street. I'm convinced of it. And the Island of Strangers is a very particular form of word. It's almost a term of art. So where did it come from? And who was the person that said this should go into the speech? Now, of course, some on the right are angry about the hypocrisy. And I do understand that. Like Maya Tusi wrote, Stammer's Enoch Powell moment, so it's okay when the left say it. But other shrewd voices can see
Starting point is 00:23:52 this is an Overton window shifting moment, which makes the prospect of mass deportations under a right-wing government much more likely. like Douglas Carswell, who wrote, The British state is desperately worried about losing control. Their mass immigration in prison dissident policy has triggered a full insurgency. Keep demanding mass deportation. And Stephen Edgington, one of the only sound people who remain at GB News, writing, Starmer is echoing Enoch Powell. The Tories are implicitly supporting mass deportations to attack Nigel Farage. Now, of course, I have not forgotten. Starmer is all talk. Neither has the public. I mean, just think about this. Our border farce is chronic, including yesterday. Our train stations
Starting point is 00:24:48 still have signs not in our native language, prompting Rupert Lowe to directly ask the Prime Minister, does Keir Starmer agree with me that this London station name should be in English and English only? And of course, when you look at the polls, they show quite clearly by a saw-away margin that the public believes that Reform UK is best positioned to deal with immigration. And of course, I will remind you all as well, before anyone is sucked into Starmer's spin, that there was a critical nine seconds during the press conference yesterday where he confirmed that he will not leave the ECHR and will not ignore human rights laws. Does going further mean disentangling ourselves from the ECHR and disapplying human
Starting point is 00:25:42 rights laws in immigration cases? No. So given that, it is no wonder the so-called online right in the US finds the debate we are having pathetic given the trouble we're in. Like the highly influential cat turd on X that wrote, you risk becoming an island of strangers? You already are. Thanks to you, he's referring to Starmer, and leftists like you, it's too late. It's over. Done. But I'm not giving up the fight yet. Because while we're breathing, there is a reason to fight, not by a long shot. And nor should you.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Now, let me bring in Dr. Philip Casale, the cultural historian, academic author, political commentator, a senior fellow at the New Culture Forum. Philip, so wonderful to have you back on Outspoken. What's it like for you seeing this mainstream media meltdown over the fact that Starmer quite clearly echoed Enoch Powell's comments, even if his solution is to do very little? First of all, Dan, it's great to see you again. It's lovely to be back on the show. Yeah, I'm just watching it aghast and thinking, what country do they live in? What are they looking at when they walk down the street, the city streets of our country? What are they? Do they have their eyes closed? Do they have their ears closed? Are their senses all?
Starting point is 00:27:18 I'm just looking at some of the stats that people were suggesting there. And actually, the truth is this, I've written them down. By the time low-skilled immigrants get to the age of 66, retirement age, they cost the taxpayer £150,000. So each low-skilled immigrant costs the taxpayer £150,000. If they live to be 80 years old, they cost the taxpayer £500,000. Okay. Years ago, when people like me and people like you used to say, look, we have a problem with mass immigration, okay, since the 1960s, actually, since 1997, with huge amounts of people coming into, pouring into our porous borders, we have a real immigration, real problem. It's about culture. It's about society. It's also about politics.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Okay. Don't forget, we have a Gaza coalition in parliament at the moment, one of whom is advocating marriage. And there'll be a hell of a lot more of them very soon. And there'll be a hell of a lot more of them very soon. Okay. We have cities in which some areas of our cities, and I'm in a northern city at the moment, just a few miles away, there is negotiated policing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Because that area of the city, Batley, Dewsbury, places like that are fairly dangerous places to be if you are of a particular persuasion. All of these things are happening. I go down to London all the time. I don't live in London, but I work in London quite a lot. I'm often quite scared on the streets, actually, because there's a sense of intimidation and menace. New Culture Forum has just made a documentary film in our
Starting point is 00:29:06 Heresy series about sex crimes against women, particularly in London, by Alex Phillips. Okay, she presented it. And the stats are out. And it's immigrants, it's illegal immigrants, it's legal immigrants, it's people from places like Afghanistan. They are way off the scale. They're represented hugely in terms of sex crimes. We've got rape gangs in this country. OK, we're not having a national inquiry. We could go on and on and on, Dan, OK? But we have a media class that is kind of going like this. No, no, no, no, no. And just kind of ignoring it all and saying, well, I live in London, you know, one of the poshest parts of London, which is a kind of monoculture. And I can't see it, you know, and we've got Jeremy Corbyn is saying, look what immigrants do for our country. There's a difference between sensible immigration that we used to have probably in the 1950s, okay, and mass immigration,
Starting point is 00:30:12 which is absolutely and utterly devastating to our culture. Totally, totally. But I mean, Susanna Reid clearly isn't telling the truth. Is she, Philip? She feels like she has to go on and repeat all the platitudes and say, oh, well, all I do is look around London and see this diverse multicultural society, forgetting that she's admitted to us that she was mugged.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And let's be honest, Philip, in the past, before mass immigration, uncontrolled and illegal immigration destroyed London, the capital city, you could walk around quite comfortably without the concern of being mugged. Well, I just talked about Manchester. Manchester is quite a similar city to London, actually. I tweeted about Manchester a few weeks ago and it went viral. And I was walking through the city. It was a bank holiday Monday. There were gangs of Asian lads in black tracksuits with their faces masked.
Starting point is 00:31:10 There was a woman defecating in the doorway. Oh my God. Homeless drunks lurching around. This is a city that I grew up in and that I loved and that I was part of. I was part of the culture.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I was part of the Manchester music scene in the 80s and 90s all of that kind of stuff now it's a terrifying place because it is a a place of strangers you know it's it's mass immigration has absolutely devastated Manchester okay the streets there's a there's an encampment of tents in the middle of in the middle of Manchester where immigrants are there before they get housed and all the rest of it. So that city is devastated. As I said, it's just happening in London. Yes, of course she's lying.
Starting point is 00:31:53 But this is the thing. We know she's lying. She knows she's lying. Everybody knows she's lying. But it's the same thing about all of this stuff, isn't it? If you complain quite reasonably about mass immigration, what, 1.2 million people coming into the country every year, the risk to women, the risk to children, all of those kinds of things, for years and years and years, you were just called racist. You were closed down, even though you knew that they didn't think you were racist okay but the problem is for our elitist
Starting point is 00:32:26 establishment if they say for one minute oh actually we got it wrong and you're right then they are in real trouble because the whole of the last 30 years all of the ethos all of the philosophy has been wrong all of that liberal philosophy has been wrong. Okay. And then they have to say, well, it's our fault and there are consequences to our actions. Okay. We opened the borders. We let all of these people in. We championed multiculturalism. We championed interculturalism. None of it's happened. We just have a Babel, a balkanised society. And what we have to what they have to do then is account for that. They have to say, well, basically, they have to say sorry and they have to face the consequences.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Now, of course, they won't do that. So they'll just lie to us. And that that that absolute barefaced lying is making people very, very angry indeed. Breaking right now, the off communists strike again. The UK government censor is attempting to ban Nigel Farage altogether from being able to present on GB News. And this would apply actually to any politician. Here's the headline in the Daily Telegraph. Politicians to be banned from presenting news after Farage Rao. Ofcom's crackdown threatens to reignite a clash with GB News over using MPs as presenters. Now, I find this so ironic on so many levels, by the way, because GB News is actually fast becoming a form of controlled opposition. Part of that maybe is because of the huge pressure that the off communists have pushed for. But I'll give you an example of its political editor, Christopher Hope, just yesterday.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And you've got to listen to this very carefully, he's talking about Labour and the results that Labour received recently at the local elections, and he talks about we. Watch. Demonstrating because anytime you've got good weather, they're coming. So it demonstrates that the policy of smashing the gangs isn't working because if it was, it wouldn't matter what the weather was. Mark, just stay with this and have a listen now because we've got Christopher Hope, who's at the Scene All Flat News conference there. Chris, of course, is our political editor. How did you feel that the Prime Minister performed?
Starting point is 00:35:06 I think he's quite confident, actually, Eamon and Ellie. I think the politics of this, which is my job to look at that, is fascinating. We had the disaster at the ballot box a week last Thursday when Reform UK surged and won all those councils. Did you hear that? We had the disaster at the ballot box, a Freudian sleep. But of course, Christopher Hope has been increasingly attempting to get close to the Labor administration so that Labor doesn't effectively shut GB News down. That's madness. Don't negotiate with your enemy, stand up to them. And there is this farcical situation at the moment where Christopher Hope interviews Nigel Farage on a regular basis, but he struggles to present his own show. So for example, after the
Starting point is 00:35:54 big Keir Starmer immigration announcement yesterday, we had Farage popping up on his employer being treated as if he wasn't part of GB News. Watch. Labour are tackling immigration. Are you worried? Really? Really? They weren't before May 1st, were they? I mean, Keir Starmer has spent his whole career campaigning for free movement of people, wholly unconcerned about this subject,
Starting point is 00:36:21 so much so that their massive parliamentary majority was gained without immigration even being one of their five main priorities. Now, of course, he knows that amongst the great British public this issue rates even higher than the health service, and he's just basically playing catch-up with reform.
Starting point is 00:36:38 What do you think when you heard Sir Keir Starmer talk about we risk becoming a nation of strangers, these forces tearing us apart. This is language you wouldn't have heard the PM say, I think, before the elections. You wouldn't have heard the PM say it at any point in his life. This is not the conversation of the North London dinner party set, believe you me. No, I mean, many of the things he said
Starting point is 00:37:00 are the same things I've been saying for over 20 years. And that's Starmer's problem, insincerity. What does this man actually believe in other than trying to keep power for its own sake? But GB News is hitting back at Ofcom, confirming that Nigel Farage will return to host his show next month. Now, let me bring in Dr Philip Casali, Senior Fellow at the New Culture Forum now. Philip, this me bring in Dr. Philip Casali, senior fellow at the New Culture Forum now.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Philip, this is a fascinating one. Officially, Nigel still can present his show because his show is actually not considered a news show. It's considered current affairs. But it means Ofcom, the Ofcommunists, have introduced all of these new regulations. So Nigel Farage wouldn't be able to talk to a reporter, for example. And of course, all of these regulations are just ludicrous, in my view. There should be no state regulation of free speech. There's no regulation at this point, thank God, of a platform like mine. But it isn't part of the issue that GB News has bowed down to this madness. Yeah, I think you're right, Dan.
Starting point is 00:38:07 It's such a mess. I mean, first of all, Ofcom can't apply their own rules because they actually don't even understand their own rules. Okay. And in the past, we've had people like David Lammy presenting shows, so comedy's involved as well here. I think that... They didn't give a damn about that, did they?
Starting point is 00:38:24 They didn't give a damn about that, did they? They didn't give a damn about that. They only give a damn about it when when Nigel Farage and reform are absolutely surging in the polls and they're surging in elections and they are a massive, genuine threat. But yes, I agree with you. I think GB News needs to look at itself. It needs to look at its audience. It needs to kind of re-evaluate, I suppose, what it is and where it's going. And let's just be clear about this. People don't want public service broadcasting anymore, okay? People want more commercial options, but they also really want independent broadcasters, okay? And that is absolutely the future. Shows like this, channels like New Culture Forum and lots and lots of other channels that are getting huge, huge views. OK, that's what people want, because people
Starting point is 00:39:11 don't want the kind of the establishment narrative. And in the previous stories that we saw, we saw absolutely the establishment narrative and we people don't want those lies anymore. Why should they take them? Because they can they can get the truth on Twitter straight away. They can go on various kind of platforms and social media like this one, as I've already said. So they really don't want that whole kind of sanitized, lying nonsense narrative. And GB News needs to somehow remove itself from that whole set of people rather than going closer to it. I totally agree. I completely agree. And of course, for me, it's very disappointing to see the way that GB News has capitulated. But I remember even when I was there,
Starting point is 00:39:59 Philip, having discussions with Nigel, where he said, look, I've considered, this is before obviously he was in parliament, but he said, look, I'd considered just launching Farage Media. And actually, I would argue there would be a much more powerful platform for him to do that independently on his own without the regulation, without the straitjacket? Because if you watch Farage on GB News now, it's such a sanitized version. You know, it's so watered down. I think it's a victim of two things, okay? And I think GB News and other channels are a victim of two things.
Starting point is 00:40:40 One, it's authoritarianism, okay? It's that sense of you are not allowed to say this you're not allowed to do that you're a threat you're a challenge all of those things okay so you must count you must kowtow and bow down the other thing to enforce all of that kind of stuff is censorship okay and my worry is that channels like gb news are going to self-censor i think there's lots and lots of evidence that they are doing oh my god, my God, they are. They are already. I mean, so many people are on the banned list, Philip. Even great men like David Starkey is banned.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I mean, it's not. Yeah, but absolutely. So that is happening. But if they want to serve the general public, and if they want to serve the public that is probably going to vote reform into government in 2029, then they need to listen to what that general public wants. And it's very simple, OK? That government, that public wants a robust critique of government, of establishment, of institutions. It wants a push back on mass immigration. It wants a rejection of identity politics. It wants to hold politicians, all kinds
Starting point is 00:41:54 of politicians, to account, okay? And it wants to root out lies. Now, if GB News and other channels don't do that, then they are failing that um that public that if you remember a few years ago were just desperate for a new voice in in in the news and current affairs sphere were absolutely desperate for it and people will turn away from the channel if they carry on the way they're going because we've seen that already it's people like you it's various other people all all of these channels are getting huge numbers of views. And it's simply because it's unvarnished. It's the truth.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It's robust. I mean, just looking back and remembering your debate with Rupert Lowe, for example, that was one of the best interviews I'd seen for quite a long time. And GB News will not have him on. GB News will not have him on. And GB News won't have him on. GB News will not have him on. And GB News won't have him on. I mean, sorry, just to finish the point. Sums up for me the real kind of problem.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And if they are going to survive and prosper, and I do go on to GB News sometimes, and I hope they do survive and prosper, then they really do need to think about their audience because they're a commercial operation. Indeed. I think the problem is that all of these mainstream media organisations, Philip, are now attempting to take down the independent media. So to do that, they are almost saying to the regulators, look Daily Telegraph derided myself and Lawrence Fox and Calvin Robinson and Lotus Eaters, a whole load of us, as being alt-right. Now, actually, alt-right, I mean, I'm happy to
Starting point is 00:43:35 claim that label, the new meaning of the term alt-right, but the initial meaning of the term alt-right was to be a white nationalist. So that's actually an absolutely defamatory term. And The Telegraph has written this article about Farage. And I think what's so shocking, you would hope The Daily Telegraph would be arguing for free speech. But actually, because they're so threatened themselves, as a result, they seem to act as if this is like a really normal thing. So let me take you through what they wrote specifically about Farage and GB News. They said politicians will be banned from working as news presenters under a crackdown from Ofcom as the regulator seeks to tighten rules following a high court row with GB News.
Starting point is 00:44:18 The media watchdog confirmed on Monday that MPs will be banned from presenting the news on any type of program, whether that be on TV or radio. Bosses have sought to shore up the policy after a judge previously ruled against Ofcom during a spat with the start-up broadcaster, ultimately concluding that the regulator's rules were not enough. However, this latest ban threatens to reignite the clash as GB News continues to employ reform UK leader Nigel Farage. The initial dispute was sparked after Ofcom accused GB News of breaching impartiality rules by using Jacob Rees-Mogg as a news presenter. It subsequently launched a series of investigations into GB News broadcasts, including shows presented by Esther McVeigh and Mr Farage. Tensions peaked when GB News challenged Ofcom's findings in the High Court, which ultimately ruled
Starting point is 00:45:03 that the broadcaster had not breached impartiality rules. This was on the basis that the rules only covered news programs and not current affairs. It marked the first time that Ofcom had lost a legal challenge against one of its broadcasting decisions, prompting it to drop its other investigations into GB News as it scrambled to rewrite its rule books on politicians appearing as TV presenters. This meant it halted a number of inquiries. But here's my issue. The chief executive of GB News, Angelo Frangopoulos, rather than saying, and what I believe GB News should come out and say to this, Philip, is to hell with you. We are going to broadcast what we want. We're going to do it
Starting point is 00:45:46 responsibly according to our own editorial charter, but we're going to broadcast what the hell we want by who the hell we want. You take us off air if you want, but that will cause an international scandal. We'll get more publicity than we've ever had. Lots of people will come to find us in the online space. And you'll look like North bloody Korea. But instead, he's written this new piece in the Daily Telegraph saying, Ofcom's jailer mentality is harming Starmer's growth plan, but offering to work with the regulator to come up with a new set of regulation. Like, that's nuts. How can you be a free speech channel saying that you want
Starting point is 00:46:26 to create a new regime of free speech regulation? I'll tell you what it will mean as well, because I've seen this from all of my old employers. They want to shut down, I don't mean me specifically, but they want to shut down people like me, people like you at the New Culture Forum, people like Lotus Eaters because they want to do that to protect their own businesses. So actually, you'll see quite often now, GB News, The Sun, The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Mail push for regulation online because they want the internet to be regulated because they know that's better for their business. Yeah, I mean, it's just completely the wrong strategy, OK? It's the opposite of what they should be doing,
Starting point is 00:47:11 which is pretty much what you've just said. It's what I started this conversation with, which is Ofcom can't apply its own rules. So GB News, now in a position of power, should be really pushing, should be absolutely pushing that censorship thing, should be pushing the freedom of speech thing, and should be absolutely pushing that censorship thing should be pushing the freedom of speech thing and should be absolutely allied with friends with people like you and me and new culture forum and and all of all of those channels because we are singing from the same same hymn sheet or we should be but it all they always do this don't they and it always ends in
Starting point is 00:47:42 utter catastrophe catastrophe for them I'm thinking about the Tory party. I'm thinking about the royal family. They always try and appease the people who hate them. You know, an off-com of absolute kind of uber left liberals who hate Nigel Farage, who hate GB News, who hate people like you and me, okay? And for GB News to try and appease those people, it just doesn't work. That's what the royal family have been trying to do for years. It just doesn't work. That's what the Tory party have done. And look where the hell they are, you know. Now is the time to be brave, because we've come to the end of an era, Dan. We're at the end of this uber-liberal era that probably started about 10, 15 years ago. And it starts with all the
Starting point is 00:48:27 kind of activism that's just been held for this country. Okay, you can, you can map it. Okay, it's Me Too, it's BLM, it's lockdown, it's trans, it's environmentalism, it's Hamas, all of that stuff. People are just so sick of that stuff. What they want is media outlets that will absolutely destroy all of that stuff because that stuff is destroying their country. OK, so GB News has an opportunity now and I hope it steps back. I hope it thinks and I hope it kind of steps in line with us and really pushes back on all of this stuff, because that's desperately what people want. You know, ironically, that's why people are voting for reform, and that's why people want reform to stay on the right. People desperately don't want reform to do the same thing either. They don't want them to slide into the middle,
Starting point is 00:49:18 and all the evidence suggests that reform are doing that. So I would put this plea out to GB News, to reform, to all of those things. Just stay to the right. That's what people want. Totally. Be bold, be brave, follow the MAGA playbook of Donald Trump. I could not agree more because at this point, trust me, there are senior executives working for the off communists who view it as their mission in life to shut GB News down, to take GB News off air. Call their bluff. Do not think that you can negotiate with the enemy. More trouble for the mainstream media. I can reveal Good Morning Britain is in crisis as ratings plummet and executives consider a shock plan to merge the failing morning show, which has never recovered since the loss of Piers Morgan, who, remember, was forced out after he accused Meghan Markle for lying on air when she lied on air. But they want to merge it with woke ITV news, meaning that Tom
Starting point is 00:50:29 Bradby and the awful work that he does will be in charge of this Good Morning Britain show. Now, you can imagine this has caused shockwaves all throughout the morning broadcaster. Look, I worked at ITV Daytime for years. There are hundreds of staff there, hundreds of staff. It is a bloated organization that absolutely needs to be fundamentally shaken up. But this merger with ITV News, I think, is really bad news in a whole load of ways because ITV News is even worse than Good Morning Britain, if you can believe it. So let me take you through the stories. Exclusive, this was revealed by TV Zone.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Good Morning Britain set for merger with ITV News. ITV are in talks to merge its flagship breakfast show, Good Morning Britain, with its news offering, ITV News, which is produced by ITN. Then GB News went on to report that ITV GMB's future is in doubt as staff receive an email over an unsettling and stressful development. This comes as GMB recently came under scrutiny from Nigel Farage and his supporters for a biased interview. They report that GB News has seen an email sent to Good Morning Britain staff who are members of the National Union of Journalists and they published this email, dear all letter, which is of course very worrying. And a source was quoted in the media as saying ITV is really tightening their
Starting point is 00:52:03 belt. There have been concerns for months at the top, but now that it's trickled down to the shop floor, it feels very depressing. A lot of staff are being put on three-month contracts, probably so they can get rid of people easily. force to tune into a broadcaster like this who looks down on us, who doesn't really understand our issues and nothing summed that up better than Susanna Reid completely dismissing the concerns that the vast majority of ordinary Brits have about mass
Starting point is 00:52:38 uncontrolled immigration. Do you feel like a stranger on your island? Well, I live in the most diverse city in the UK, London. We're in it now. And I don't feel like a stranger. No. I feel like I'm in a really rich, multicultural society.
Starting point is 00:53:00 In London, I live in... But am I out of touch with people who this phrase is going to chime with? Because I don't really understand. Dr. Philip Kazali, this is, I think, the beginning of the end of not just Good Morning Britain, but also woke ITV News. These are bloated organisations for so many years, Philip. They have been totally exposed for lying, for being out of touch. I mean, look at their revolting coverage
Starting point is 00:53:29 throughout the COVID pandemic, for example, where they peddled the establishment narrative, never questioned the government and have never admitted they were wrong on so many levels. They got Brexit wrong. They got Boris Johnson wrong. Now they're getting Nigel Farage and immigration wrong. I mean, this can no longer exist as a behemoth organisation when people are simply not tuning in.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah, it's almost I was just watching that then. I just couldn't help but laugh because he he he chimed in the word vibrant, didn't he? You know, and if you could think of a worse cliche, then please do tell me. But I honestly can't think of a worse cliche. The problem is this model is so out of date. It's almost like a pre-war model that's still running at the beginning of the 1960s. In other words, it's a completely different era now to what it was 10, 15 years ago, whenever when this show first started.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And I have to admit, like probably like most of your viewers, Dan, I don't think I've ever seen it. Right. And I don't think I ever will now because it's obviously going to go. It's it's it's an establishment narrative. People are so much better informed now because people are not tied to public service broadcasters anymore so they can see the lies you know but the problem is the real problem is they don't even hide the lies anymore they just blatantly lie and it's almost Orwellian watching this stuff you know it's almost watching like a telescreen in 1984. And you have all of this stuff coming into you will adore mass immigration, you will listen to
Starting point is 00:55:11 us, you will, you know, ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears and what's going on around you. It's time that this show and terrestrial television generally really was dumped because nothing serves us nothing fits us it's just it's i remember a few years ago when i stopped listening to um the bbc itv and all of that stuff i used to wake up at half six in the morning my alarm used to go off and it used to be the today program and i'd be you know when you were in and out of sleep and you'd be kind of coming coming to and all of this stuff would be going into me and it'd be kind of like telling me off for being white male heterosexual all of those things right and i realized that i was miserable for for the first part of the day because of all of this stuff so i just stopped listening to it and
Starting point is 00:56:01 practically everybody i know nobody bothers with this stuff anymore. No, it's so freeing. That is such a brave, freeing moment. So it happened to me when I left GB News. And I just thought, I am no longer going to be dictated anymore by a mainstream media that I know to be corrupt because I was working in it for such a long time. And so I stopped reading the newspapers. I stopped looking at the mainstream media unless I was working in it for such a long time. And so I stopped reading the newspapers. I stopped looking at the mainstream media,
Starting point is 00:56:29 unless I was specifically researching something. And it was brilliant. My whole world opened up, and I absolutely loved going full-throttled into the independent media. And my recommendation to everyone is stop paying the BBC licence fee. Use that money to support independent journalists who you respect because that's how we create our own independent media system. However, I do just want to talk a little bit about what has gone wrong at woke ITV, Philip, because I spent 10 years working at ITV Daytime
Starting point is 00:56:59 and I can pinpoint the exact moment where they lost the plot. And it did relate to Ms Meghan Markle who had formed an incredibly close relationship with Tom Bradby the presenter of ITV News who wields a lot of power at that organization and he was going to war with Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain and also myself I was working on the Lorraine Kelly show, trying to control us, trying to make sure that we would not provide any negative coverage of Meghan Markle. Now, to me, it wasn't negative coverage, Philip. It was just the truth. I was reporting the truth, which is there was this huge breakdown going on within the royal family, and Meghan Markle was causing massive issues with the Queen,
Starting point is 00:57:45 the late Queen, Prince William, and I had to report the truth. And I was given an ultimatum one day, which was, you've got to stop saying negative things about Meghan Markle. I refused, and I quit. And then you'll remember what happened just a few months later. Alex Beresford, in an on-air ambush of Piers Morgan, challenged him, parroting the Meghan Markle narrative. Meghan Markle then complained to the chief executive of ITV, a woman called Carolyn McCall, incredibly woke, used to be the boss of The Guardian, when Piers had claimed that Meghan Markle lied about being suicidal in her interview with Oprah Winfrey. Now, my reporting of that story makes it abundantly clear that Meghan Markle had lied. Piers Morgan quit after Meghan Markle pressured ITV to dictate its editorial policy. At that point, Philip,
Starting point is 00:58:49 ITV was over as a news organisation. As soon as you allow the people who you are covering to provide the narrative and to make editorial decisions for you, it's over, isn't it? That was the moment when Good Morning Britain was finished. Because remember, Piers Morgan had taken the show to record highs. It was beating BBC Breakfast in the ratings. That has never, in the new woke iteration, it has never come close. No, and you're not a current affairs show. You're not a news show.
Starting point is 00:59:23 You're just a propaganda outlet at that point. Okay. And there's something very clear here, isn't it? You've used this word woke a couple of times and you're absolutely correct. It's about skin colour. This is Meghan Markle's skin colour. So we absolutely have to champion everything she does and we have to tell lies about her. We have to present her in a positive light because she's got brown skin, okay? And the royal family, which are the old, old establishment and have white skin and are terrible. So we have to make sure they're negative. It's so simplistic. It's such an insult to the intelligence, okay? And it's part of this broader social engineering that you are actually
Starting point is 01:00:06 trying on the one hand to present Meghan Markle as either someone who is just brilliant in every way okay or someone who is a victim and this is possibly the most privileged person on earth she's certainly in the top five or ten okay she? She definitely is not a victim. But when you can only think about race, gender, sexuality, all of these things, when these things dictate absolutely everything and news and truth don't matter at all, then you will go down that route. And this is why I say the whole model is over. It's finished.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Mainstream television, terrestrial television, who cares? Who watches it? It's nonsense, Dan, because it's not only what we see, but it's people like you. And, you know, I've done some stuff in terrestrial television as well, but only interviews. But you can see it. You've got so many stories, you know. It's just there. And now, as I say, people know know that they know what's going on and the the situation isn't just that people are fed up they are more
Starting point is 01:01:15 than fed up okay it's the government it's the institutions it's the mainstream media all those three things are acting together to try and keep people down right it's more than it's more than just a narrative okay they are frightened they are actually frightened of us because we are so angry at what's going on with the other stories angry at what's happening in our cities angry what's happening to our uh wives and children angry about all of these things, okay, which come down to things like mass immigration, terrible government policy, okay? And they are terrified that, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:53 we are in the foothills of civil war. I think it's that bad, okay? So they're pushing us back and pushing us back. We saw this last year with Southport, didn't we? Oh, yes, absolutely. And those people were immediately called, it's the same thing, isn't it? They were immediately called far right, they were immediately called neo-Nazis, they were called criminals before they were prosecuted,
Starting point is 01:02:15 and they were thrown in prison. And one person, Peter Lynch, has actually died in prison. So this is what's happening. The government are running scared, okay, and they're using phrases like islands of strangers. That's how that's a Labour prime minister is saying that. That's how scared they are. And they should be scared because what they've done over the last 30 years is nothing short
Starting point is 01:02:36 of criminal. Couldn't agree more. And by the way, we will never forget. That's why it doesn't matter what Starmer says in that speech. We will never forget what he called us, how he derided us, the lies that he told, the punishments that he personally inflicted on, as you say, really good people like Peter Lynch and Lucy Connolly and Julie Sweeney, who remained behind bars. We will never forget that. And so that's why it's all well and good. Starmer going up in a Downing Street press conference
Starting point is 01:03:11 and reluctantly invoking the language of Enoch Powell. But it's meaningless because we will not forget what he did. And also he will be judged by results and the results are absolutely appalling. He hasn't smashed the gangs. The invasion of the channel is at record numbers. And of course, he hasn't even put any type of numeric goal on how much he wants to cut net migration. So I think you're completely right to make that point. But it's so disappointing to see mainstream media organizations that I did
Starting point is 01:03:44 previously have faith in. I didn't think they were perfect. But trust me, I wouldn't have worked at ITV for 10 years if I didn't think it had something to offer. It used to be the channel of the people. Now it is the channel of the elite class. And as a result, it is finished. Finished. Also finished, by the way, is London.
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Starting point is 01:06:50 inconvenient truth that London is now dangerous in every area. That might sound obvious if you're someone living in the capital city of the United Kingdom, which has been destroyed step by step, piece by piece by the failed mayor of this city, Sadiq Khan, an extremist in so many ways, who cares far more about the Muslim population and who cares far more about painting a false picture of what this city is really like than the reality of being in a city where you can no longer walk the streets now without being mugged.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Personal experiences to share with you about that in just one moment. But first, listen to what Ed Sheeran told Theo Vaughn on this issue. What's the most dangerous place to be around here? Here? I'd say every area of London, literally every area, is sketchy. I love that.
Starting point is 01:08:01 The nice areas are sketchy, the bad areas are sketchy, but you just have to not do stupid shit. Dr. Philip Casale of the New Culture Forum. That is a damning indictment of London by Ed Sheeran. But he is 100% telling the truth. What do you make of it? Oh, he's 100% telling the truth what do you make of it oh he's 100 telling the truth and it's and it's no surprise to anybody who spends any time in london whatsoever um this is a massively racialized
Starting point is 01:08:36 society now it's a it's totally balkanized as i said before as all our big cities are but london is is practically unlivable i mean, there used to be a time, Dan, where if you read about something like a machete attack, for example, okay, you'd be shocked by it now. But you'd be shocked if a day goes by when there isn't a machete attack, and there isn't an acid attack. These things never used to happen in this country. These things are imported cultural practices. And as you see the figures of the census throughout the decades, the problem is that it's white flight. People are leaving London. Londoners are leaving London. Everybody I know is moving out of the place.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Not because, you know, they actually feel frightened. It's not because they don't have any love for the place. It's just that they're so devastated by what's happened to it that they feel frightened and they feel as though they have to go. And they feel as though this is not the place to bring up their children. They feel as though women and children are just not safe there in any place at any time of day or night. Many of us have been on the receiving end of violence and being mugged and all the rest of it. Even Matthew Stadlin, if you remember.
Starting point is 01:10:03 But I've I mean, I've I've been on that that kind of've been on the receiving end of that racialized violence, not in London, but in Manchester. I was stabbed twice, and I was stabbed because I was white. It's as simple as that. You said you were stabbed because you were white? Yeah. What happened? I was walking home late one night.
Starting point is 01:10:22 It was summertime. I was dragged into a park, Plattefields if people know Manchester, this is a long time ago, this is about 20 years ago actually, by a gang of Somali youths. They told me to get off their streets, white man, and they stabbed me in the back and in the side. So I'm familiar with all of this stuff um and as i walk through london everyone anyone who's been on the receiving end of that kind of violence right as i walk through london you feel it you you you have this kind of sixth sense almost okay and you feel the menace in the air and now all the time even when i'm in places like westminster where i work and all of these
Starting point is 01:11:03 really nice places there there's something there. There's something on the streets. And actually, it's down to a very simple thing. It's down to mass immigration. As I said earlier on, this is this is about imported cultural practices. This is about tribalism. And this is about the hatred of white people. This is about the hatred of Britain and the hatred of the West. It's chaos. It's filthy. And something needs to be done about it.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Let's get rid of Khan and let's get someone sensible in. Well, indeed. And I guess it's a start for Ed Sheeran acknowledging the reality. But as you say, we've got to think about the why. Like, why are we in a situation where every part of London is now so dangerous? And you're right, by the way, to say this is not just London. Of course, it's other cities around the UK, Manchester, Glasgow, Liverpool, and actually internationally, too.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Look at the decline of New York, for example, since the pandemic. But given that Ed Sheeran has specifically spoken about London, let me talk about my experiences in London, because it is utterly horrifying. So I have been personally mugged twice. On one occasion, I was literally walking outside what used to be City Hall right near Tower Bridge. At that point, Sadiq Khan was still based there. It is a very dehumanizing, demoralizing experience, even if there is no violence involved. And it is now literally impossible, if you're in London, to get your phone out in public at all. At all.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Because the crime is so rampant. So, for example, my partner's sister came down just last week and she literally got out of the tube station at Green Park. By the way, that's opposite the Ritz Hotel, okay? We're talking about the poshest parts of London. She had been outside the station for 30 seconds waiting to meet Alan and she was mugged. It was utterly horrific. This is just so commonplace. And this is an experience that people like Susanna Reid of Good Morning Britain are trying to deny is our reality when she talks about how wonderful it is to live in this diverse cultural melting pot, even though she, in another breath, admits her horror at being mugged. And it's like, you have to link these two things together because they are completely
Starting point is 01:13:38 correlated. Then I was home on a Sunday and I live in a relatively nice part of London, but I was, and I love, I love the small area where I live, even though I despise the fact that I live in London. And a lot of you will be asking why are you here? And believe me, I think about that on a daily basis. The reason I bought my house here was because my show on GB news meant that I had to be tied to a place where I, because my show finished at 11 o'clock at night or used to finish at midnight. So I had to be somewhere relatively close and I didn't want to be doing a huge amount of travel at that time of day. That's why I'm here.
Starting point is 01:14:16 But I feel sad about it on a daily basis. I've absolutely fallen out of love with the city, even though this was the city where I chose to move and make my life 20 years ago. So it's pretty heartbreaking for me because I had so many incredible experiences in London. But the other day I was home. It was Sunday afternoon, 2 p.m. Beautiful day. It's light, 2 p.m. And I'm off street and we have security gates, but the security gates were open, unfortunately. And two Asian men were able to get through the security gates with a drill, literally start drilling into my neighbor's house. It was apparently to get an electric bike. I went outside the house to see what was going on. They threatened me with the drill, called the police. The police said, you're absolutely crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Do not leave the house. And they got away with the 5,000 pound electric bike. The police did quite miraculously chase these guys because the reality is the vast majority, about 99% of crimes like that are unsolved in London, but they were not able to track down the bike. My neighbor did so the next day using GPS and found it in a house just down the road. But the thing that shocked me is that this was in broad daylight. And just around the corner in another relatively nice area, I've had friends who have had their cars stolen twice. The police don't care about it. And then in a much more tragic twist the other day, a friend of a friend was actually punched outside a Sainsbury, again, in a race-motivated attack. He was a white man. He was being attacked because of his race,
Starting point is 01:16:00 and he died. It was a one-punch death. I have another friend who has been killed because he was a white man in a mugging in central London. So I wanted to share my personal experiences just so that you knew that unlike Susanna Reid, I'm going to be honest about my experiences of living in this city. And it breaks my heart that we've come to this. But I think, Philip, probably everyone who lives in London and is being honest would be able to tell similar stories. And that is heartbreaking because why on earth are any of us going to stay? I'm just listening to you, Dan.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I'm angry and upset for for all of those people you included uh like me and this was a long time ago they never caught them they knew who it was they told me oh it's a it's a somali gang of teenagers uh but but they never caught them now they've had no it's it's amazing if they do anything about it okay because they have no intention really of inflaming things more they don't want to do anything about it. They'd rather police tweets, okay? They'd rather be the thought police than deal with actual violence because it's so spiralled out of control.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Violence, extreme violence and racially motivated violence is the norm now. Bearing in mind, of course, that as you were talking about this and I was thinking about normalization of this kind of stuff and racially motivated violence. This is the grooming gangs, the rape gangs, I should say, isn't it? That's what this was. This was racially motivated, sexualized violence. This is just the same thing. Now, again, I come back to this, I come back to this point, and I'll get called racist for it, but so what? This is about demographics as much as anything else and the massive change. If people who are born and grow
Starting point is 01:17:52 up and live in a culture that is their culture, that is their heritage, that is their history, they tend to look after it. They tend to cherish it. People who just come in yesterday or last year or even one generation ago, they don't do that. And if they come from cultures which are fundamentally violent, which fundamentally treat women as second class citizens, all of those things which are fundamentally tribal, then they are going to bring those practices over with them. And that's what's happening. The real problem we've got is that the police, as I say, will do absolutely nothing about it, Dan. One, because they're frightened. And two, because at the top, ideologically, the mayor doesn't really want to do anything. Of course he doesn't. Just like he doesn't. The last thing.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Sorry, you go. Yeah, the last thing he wants is more brown people, more Muslims in the crime statistics. That is literally the last thing he wants. Now, it should be blind. Justice should be blind. Yes, but he won't even acknowledge to Susan Hall, who's now the Tory leader in the London Assembly, he will not even acknowledge to her that Pakistani Muslim rape gangs exist. And trust me, they exist in London.
Starting point is 01:19:04 And when it comes to crime statistics i know people always point to this counter argument of oh but they're coming down overall even if you know knife crime is really bad and it's like no no no people don't report crimes anymore the figures are completely skewed because why do you report a crime when you know nothing is going to be done so so so the crime statistics are completely skewed yeah but no i'm sorry dan well no i was just i just before i get back to you philip i just want to talk about this concept because this is a new concept and it has been put forward by the spectator but i think it's really relevant to what we're discussing and what Ed Sheeran was discussing. It's this new term, scuznation, to describe the United Kingdom. And this was on the front of The Spectator a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:19:52 But I just want to take you through a couple of the key points of the article, Philip, and I'll get you to react. So they write, fewer than one in 100 car break-ins in London result in a charge. Such statistics don't shock us anymore because they're so common. Shoplifting is at its highest recorded level. Fly tipping is up 50% over the past decade. There's a burglary every three minutes, yet 96% go unsolved. Most people say they're seeing more antisocial behaviour, but the number of incidents recorded by police has fallen to a historic low. Everywhere we look, Britain appears grubbier and more unpleasant. Welcome to Scuzz Nation. And they've got a point, don't they, Philip? word before but actually it's extremely accurate isn't it and you see it as you walk into into a town centre you see it it's the it's the dirtiness okay that's one thing okay and gangs of of lads usually um asian or black hanging around that's just the way it is those are the demographics you see that i'm not again i'm not being racist but there's something else as well and it's the smell of failure it's the smell of weed which is everywhere in our city centres now uh the police do nothing about it
Starting point is 01:21:11 it's still illegal as far as I know uh but this is the thing so if if you why why bother reporting a crime when you know absolutely nothing is going to be done about it and and perpetrators know that they're not going to get caught you can you can go into city centers now and you can watch people shoplifting and just blatantly shoplift and walk out with with things this is it's difficult to see how much these are famous last words aren't they right it's difficult to see how much how much worse it can get and now worse it can get well i look around and i how worse it can get. But I look around and I walk, and I remember not that long ago, you know, Dan, even the 90s, people talk about the 90s now, don't they?
Starting point is 01:21:51 As though it was this massive, wonderful era. It was a fairly bland era, to be honest, the 90s. I remember it incredibly well. But now it's like, oh my God, it was a wonderful era. Everybody was happy. I would love to go back to the 90s. I mean- But it was cleaner. Yeah, of course. It was cleaner. And to be 90s i mean but it was cleaner yeah of course
Starting point is 01:22:06 and to be honest i mean look as i say when i moved to london i chose to move to london you know i i'm a brit i've always had british citizenship my parents were born here but i was born in new zealand so i made a choice to move here when i was 21 years old and i fell in love with london and i love honestly you go back and you watch images of London, watch videos of London in 2005. So I moved at the end of 2004. But I saw some of these videos going viral the other day. It is like a different city. And actually, this Scuzz Nation piece, let me just come back to it because it is raising some of the points that you were too, Philip. So the spectator writes, some parts of Scuzz Nation leave us feeling uncomfortable, particularly when it comes to immigration.
Starting point is 01:22:51 According to the Center for Migration Control, one in five Albanians here has been arrested and one in 36 is in prison. They have managed to take over much of the County Lines Network, bringing in more cocaine and co-opting the roadmen as street dealers. As a result, as a recent Home Office report found, Albanian gangs act as the main wholesaler to powder cocaine retail operations. But they say, of course, people are very reticent to raise this stuff because of racism. They say most of the time we don't like talking about foreign criminals. It makes us feel a bit uncomfortable. Only when faced with something as statistic as the grooming gang scandal does our anger become public. Here too, we find that Scuzz Nation is partly to blame. NHS workers and social services turn a blind eye and victims who reported perpetrators to the police say they were dismissed.
Starting point is 01:23:46 So it makes me sad, but maybe we have to embrace, Philip, this concept of Scuzz Nation before there can actually be change. Because surely we've got the world's biggest pop star, right, who is probably a lefty because most of them are. I mean, I know Ed Sheeran actually, and he's always been a decent guy, but they always tend to be slightly on the left side of things. But you've got the world's biggest pop star, or at least one of the world's biggest pop stars, saying that every single area of London is dangerous. It's like, that is a story that matters. as pop stars saying that every single area of London is dangerous.
Starting point is 01:24:29 It's like, that is a story that matters. Cities can be saved. Look at what Rudy Giuliani did to New York in the 90s. It's like, we cannot just silently accept Scuzz Nation. We have to fight back. But I'll give you the final word philip i think what we've got to do dan brave and it's not easy right because both you and i know if you if you stand up and you talk and you tell the truth then there's the danger that you will get cancelled right and we've both been too late for that for us right it's too late for us but people have to people have to just tell the truth
Starting point is 01:25:07 that's all it takes and because they can't cancel everyone can they they can't they can't cancel everyone so if there is a particular group raping white working-class children if there is a particular group dealing drugs and the stats are there and the think tanks are telling you that and even the pop stars are saying look this is this is happening, then you can speak out. Okay. And you must speak out. And the more people do this, it's so important, right? It's incredibly important because we are talking about our country, our culture, our society here. You just have to be honest and you just have to be a bit brave. And if you do that, that's the first step. It's about small steps, okay? That's the first step. And then you have to vote in anger.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Very true. Very, very true. Brilliantly put. And you can get so much of Dr. Philip Casale by subscribing to the brilliant New Culture Forum. I love it. Huge fan of your work. Thank you so much. Come back to Outspoken soon. Always love having you here. And that footage we were watching, by the way, was filmed on the actual VE day 80 years ago. And England, unfortunately, is unrecognizable. And I think it is worth pointing out that that was not what our ancestors were fighting for. They were fighting to maintain that lifestyle. Some incredible comments from you though on this whole issue. I think the comment of the day, love it. Hello, Gary Warren, who says,
Starting point is 01:26:38 while Susanna Reid is having cucumber sandwiches at the Savoy after being driven there in a nice car, not surprised she can't see what's going on. Tabitha, on a similar note, wrote, it won't affect Susanna Reid. She's not waiting on a list to a council house or a doctor's appointment. She goes private. Celeste writes on Ian Dale. He was also terrible too. I thought Ian Dale was Labour until a couple of years back. He demonstrates exactly what's wrong with the Tory party. Reform are the new Conservatives. They aren't perfect, but 100% better than the rest.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Sharon Hutchinson writes, why do people bother to ring James O'Brien? He never listens to anyone, only when they agree with him. So there is so much anger. What can we do? Well, I do love Bertie Bassett, who says, I haven't had a TV license for over seven years and I feel better not being subjected to their poison. By the way, I also played a clip of Whomza Useless in the Digest and Gordie Boy writes, I'm a proud Scotsman. I hate whom I've met him. He's disgusting and has contempt for the indigenous Scottish. So absolutely fascinating discussion today. Thank you so much for participating. But it's not over yet, because it's time now to reveal today's
Starting point is 01:27:58 Greatest Britain and Union Jackass. A reminder of your nominees, David Tennant, nominated by Darren Donaldson for being vocal against women's rights, but now an Irish producer has said of him, one of the three most dislikable people I've ever had the misfortune to spend time with. Susanna Reid, nominated by Anna Island 17 for saying maybe she's out of touch, but thinks London is rich in diverse multiculturalism. And Ian Dale, nominated by L2323 for that weird and unhinged rant on LBC. Let me reveal the results. In third place, with 18% of the vote, Ian Dale of LBC. The runner-up, with 37% of the vote, David Tennant. But the winner with 46% of the vote, Susanna Reid, the out-of-touch
Starting point is 01:28:50 host of Good Morning Britain, today's Union jackass. I've just seen a super chat coming in from Daylight saying, German here, love your channel and the good old days of the UK. We are in this together. And we are because, good as me daylight, what you're going through in Germany is equally bad. Equally bad. And we've got to find a way through this together. Okay, today's Greatest Britain nominated by Adam Crombie 76. Thank you so much for this because I love this man.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Jim Davidson for all his work over the years with our armed forces and veterans. Very, very good point. Now, coming up in the Uncancelled After Show on Substack, the left-wing New York Times has launched a shock attack on King Charles and Prince William, blaming the British royal family for Prince Harry's isolation. We'll find out what's really going on with the Duke's biographer and our royal mastermind, Angela Levin. So at this stage, we move off YouTube and rumble and we go on. We continue the conversation on Substack. I know you want to be with me there.
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