Dan Wootton Outspoken - MSM PLOT TO DESTROY PINK LADIES EXPOSED AS NIGEL FARAGE TOLD TO TOUGHEN UP ON ISLAM THREAT

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

BREAKING TODAY: Just days after an Islamist terror attack on western innocents and the revelation the UK government is trying to criminalise criticism of the faith that sets out to destroy us, the cro...oked and corrupt mainstream media have decided the real people they need to destroy is Britain’s Pink Ladies who have been fighting for the safety of our young girls. CNN has just launched a full frontal smear on the patriotic mums and grandmas branding them far right. That sick attack comes as the MSM ignored the two white Australians who fought the Islamists and were shot dead because it doesn’t fit their narrative. But anger across the globe about how we have given in to Islamism is growing. Meanwhile, the British MSM has decided the most important story is a Reform UK mayoral candidate suggesting that David Lammy doesn’t put the interests of the British people first. I wonder what gave him that idea… Dan says Christopher Hitchens was right about made up Islamophobia plots and Nigel Farage must do more in his Digest. Then the Superstar Panel weigh in: Father Calvin Robinson - co-host of Reclaim the Media’s Fox and Father - and the leader of Advance UK in Wales Richard Taylor. PLUS: A right-wing breakfast war as Talk TV chooses Jeremy Kyle to go head to head with his ex-BFF Mike Graham in the mornings from the New Year and Lotus Eaters announces its own rival based breakfast show. AND: Meghan Markle declares war on GB News, revealing she has threatened a defamation lawsuit against the channel because of comments made about her absent mother Doria Ragland by Carole Malone live on air. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: As the Royal Family gather for their annual Christmas lunch at Buckingham Palace, the behaviour from Prince Harry and Meghan Markle has become even more deranged and desperate. We’ll reveal why with royal YouTube sensation P-Dina. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Witten. This is outspoken episode number 384 and breaking today. Just days after an Islamist terror attack on Western innocence and the revelation the UK government is trying to criminalize criticism of the faith that sets out to destroy us. The crooked and corrupt mainstream media have decided the real people they need to destroy?
Starting point is 00:01:28 is Britain's pink ladies, grandmas and moms who have been fighting for the safety of their daughters and our young girls? This is sick. But CNN has just launched a full frontal smear on those patriots deciding to brand them as far right. Meet the Pink Ladies and you face of Britain's growing anti-immigration movement. We went to one of their pink protests just outside London to try and understand what this is all about. And who think it's acceptable to marry eight and nine-year-old girls?
Starting point is 00:02:13 This is not racism, they say, and they're not the far right. But a lot of what we heard sounded an awful lot like the far rights narrative. Except two of the suspects in these five horrific murder cases are British nationals. But for Laura and others, what they heard here was enough for them to make up their minds. Well, the pink ladies, all are Minnie Hain and Sarah White are going to hit back at that hit piece very shortly. And that 6 CNN attack comes as the MSN ignored, the two white Australians who fought the Islamist terrorists and were shot dead. Why? Because it doesn't fit their narrative. but anger across the globe about how we have given in to Islamism is growing.
Starting point is 00:03:01 No, you can stand up for sovereignty when Israel tries to push us around and you can do it to the Muslims too, and their alibi, the globalist left, look at the universities, look at Soros, look at it, you idiots. The threat is real. But according to media reports, the Minister of Immigration brought 2,000 people in from an ISIS area in one day. And he greeted them as they arrived in Australia. So that is the attitude of the Australian government. Now, I don't think it's the attitude of the Prime Minister. Meanwhile, the British MSM has
Starting point is 00:03:38 decided the most important story is a reform mayoral candidate suggesting that David Lammy doesn't put the interest of the British people first. I wonder what gave them that idea? Hmm. The Caribbean people, we are not going to forget our history. We don't just want to hear an apology. We want reparation. Revealed that Chris Parry had said that David Lammy, who was born and raised in London, should go home to the Caribbean. I know you mentioned you're not familiar necessarily with the details of the allegation. That is a direct quote of what he said.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So can you say clearly now, because I haven't actually heard back from reform on this at all. If you'd back him for the Hampshire job, you'd still happy for him to be your mayoral candidate. One of your colleagues, Chris Parry, the mayor of a candidate for Hampshire and Prisona, obviously, you've been delayed now. He said that David Lambe should go back to the Caribbean, back to home to the Caribbean. Do you support that language and do you support what he was trying to say? How Christopher Hitchens was right about made-up Islamophobia plots and why Nigel Farage must do more in my digest next. Then my superstar panel, Father Calvin Robinson, co-host of Reclaim the Media's Fox and Fulks, father and the leader of Advance UK in Wales, Richard Taylor.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Also coming up on the show today, a right-wing breakfast war, as Talk TV chooses Jeremy Kyle to go head-to-head with his ex-BFF, Mike Graham in the mornings from the New Year, and Lotus Eaters announces its own rival-based breakfast show. And Megan Markle declares war on GB News, revealing she has threatened a defamation lawsuit against the channel because of comments made about her mom, Doria Ragland by Carol Malone live on air. Then, in the uncanceled after show over on Substack, as the Royal Family gather for their annual Christmas lunch at Buckingham Palace, the behaviour from Prince Harry and Megan Markle has become even more deranged and desperate will reveal why with Royal YouTube
Starting point is 00:05:39 Sensation P. Diner. Brand new, Greatest Britain and Union Jack has to be revealed at the end of the show two here are your nominees for the worst Britain in the world today. Dr. Scholar nominated by Darren Donaldson, who says just when you think she can't go any lower, she's shouting about Zionists after the Bondi massacre. No shame, dangerous grifter. Narenda Corr, nominated by Scott Fly 23 for waxing lyrical about her five-pound blow dry in India. Maybe she should stay. She seems happier there. And Kay Burley, nominated by the Grift Report, who says, if London is so safe tonight, go to Tower Hamlets and live stream it on your own, walk around the flats and maybe go inside while streaming, and let's see if it's as safe as you say.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Nerinda versus K versus Dr. Scholar, who's going to be named the worst Britain in the world today? It's all up to you. Vote now in the YouTube live chat. But now, let's go. I want to show you Canary Wharf in central London last night as Christmas revelers and one of the UK's number one Islamist terror targets were out despite the very natural fears after the Bondi Beach terror attack on innocent Aussies. These were the sights and sounds, which they were greeted to in Sadiq Khan's Islamist London. The
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Starting point is 00:07:35 The British public has had a We've had enough of our Christian culture being stripped away, of Jews no longer feeling safe on the streets, of our daughters being dragged to parks and raped by illegal invading men from cultures who despise us and want to destroy us. But one of our hopes this year came in the form of the pink ladies, a group of ordinary, grandmas, moms, moms, daughters and sisters who donned pink clothing and peacefully sung English pop anthems to make the point that the resistance is coming. The resistance is coming but it will be led by the people and unlike theirs it will be non-violent. But now there is a disgusting plot against these amazing patriots, a plot being led by the regime media internationally with the despicable MSM shills at CNN preparing just at the time of the Bondi Beach massacre a hit piece
Starting point is 00:08:45 on our pink ladies deriding them as far right. Watch. Meet the pink ladies, a new face of Britain's growing anti-immigration movement. We went to one of their pink protests just outside London to try and understand what this is all about. With our own scumbags, our own predators, and our own sex pests, we do not need to bring in more every day, men from cultures that do not think like we do, who treat women like third-class citizens, and who think it's acceptable to marry eight to nine-year-old girls. This is not racism, they say, and they're not the far right.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But a lot of what we heard sounded an awful lot like the far rights narrative. I need to get the army involved. We're being invaded. Well, it's bloody terrible. It's all over Europe. You know, being invaded. By illegal migrants. Advocacy groups say exploiting the issue of violence against women
Starting point is 00:09:55 and genuine safety concerns is a common far-right tactic. The snaring tone there was despicable. As they suggested, these patriots now part of the far-right. This was a piece of propaganda. And shame on you, Christian Aminpaw, for choosing to highlight this work. And this is the reality of why CNN is now dead and buried. It is not dying. It is over.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Once the world's greatest news network, it is now an enemy of the people. Appoint the pink lady's leader, all a mini-hane, I think, expressed beautifully. a lot of the things that you are saying are the talking points of the far right. What is far right? Far right is extremists. Far left is extremism. How am I extremist?
Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm just a mum who's worked her whole life, who's bringing up three children, who lives in suburbia. I don't want my daughter to be sexually assorted by men that have come over to this country that we've got no background checks on. If that makes me a far right, then there's something very concerning
Starting point is 00:11:05 with the rhetoric, right? That's Orla Menehain. She's a local candidate for the right-wing populist party, Reform UK. Amid this show of pink solidarity and what was mostly a jovial, and at times surreal atmosphere. We heard from women worried about their safety and that of their daughters. Women are scared to walk anywhere and, you know, we live in a small town. This is the seriousness of what we're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:11:33 The government doesn't publish detailed figures on crimes committed by asylum seekers, But there have been some high-profile cases that have put women and girls on edge. On top of that, there are the twisted facts that go unchecked. These five women have died, have been murdered at the hands of an illegal migrant catastrophe that this government is letting happen. Except two of the suspects in these five horrific murder cases are British nationals. But for Laura and others, what they heard here was enough for them to make up their minds. What is it that is making you feel unsafe? Well, it's all the rapes, murders, you know, what they've been talking about today.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Alla Minnie Hayne responded, call us whatever you want, CNN, BBC Sky, trying to silence Britain's mothers and grandmothers by slamming us as far-right extremists. Why? Because we don't want our daughters sexually assaulted rape. assaulted, raped or murdered by illegal migrant men? The Reform UK Rising Star also responded exclusively here for Outspoken alongside her fellow Pink Lady Sarah White, currently in Arizona on business for Advance UK. Watch. I knew the day CNN turned up to our protest
Starting point is 00:12:53 that they would make us out to be far right extremists. They spent the day interviewing mothers and grandmothers who told them how absolutely terrified they were about the safety of their children and the safety of their children's future. I knew that they would make us out to be the demons. They spoke about our political beliefs. They pushed us on our political ideology. And over and over again, all of us said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:13:20 This is not about politics. This is about women's safety and the safety of our children. Week in and week out in this country, women and children are raped, sexually assaulted and in some cases murdered. And if we have to continuously fight against this government and make them take accountability for the fact that they are putting our children and our safety in harm's way for their absolutely pathetic ideology and multiculturalism, then we will do that. And CNN and the BBC and Sky News can continue as long as they want to make us out to be the bad ones. We are not the bad ones. We are just mothers. We are just grandmothers. want what every mother in every part of this world wants and that is the safety of their children.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Isn't it quite alarming that CNN would travel all the way to the United Kingdom to try and say that the pink ladies movement is a far right extremist movement. There's nothing far right about pink ladies. We are a group of women that is concerned for the safety and well-being of women and children in our communities. Please tell me where that is far right. They said that there was twisted facts around the murders of the five women that we was talking about in Charlestford. There's no twisted facts about it. Just because two of the men that committed to crimes happened to be British nationals does not mean that their men have the same cultural beliefs as us. It doesn't mean that they have the same respect for women.
Starting point is 00:14:56 CNN and the BBC and all mainstream media, your days are numbered. report the facts actually go out and speak to people without cutting, editing and making people look in a bad light it has got to stop the BBC your days are numbered CNN I think you won't be far behind them
Starting point is 00:15:16 you can try and dress it up as much as you like as far as I'm concerned they're concerned because pink ladies are a movement that is now spreading globally and it is a movement that is led by women supported by men Absolutely it is. Also, by the way, newsflash to CNN, being a British national doesn't make you English. As they absolutely should know, many of our worst terrorist atrocities have been committed by second-generation migrants from the 7-7 bombers to Axel, Rudy Gabana.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Oh, and what about that scumbag terrorist, born in Australia, who still decided to shoot up a group of his fellow countrymen and women at Bondi Beach? wake up wake up seriously what is it going to take well I think the answer is clear an independent media revolution and that is what is being led by the likes of Alex Jones in the US
Starting point is 00:16:17 and Bob Carter in Australia both speaking sense watch no you can stand up for sovereignty when Israel tries to push us around and you can do it to the Muslims too and they're out of the globalist left. Look at the universities, look at Soros. Look at it, you idiots.
Starting point is 00:16:35 The threat is real. Yeah, Europe's further down the rat hole than we are, but we're getting drug into it too. And there's not long to turn this around. Good God. But I realize most of you don't have any depth. All you know is a bunch of anti-Jew terms, and you think that's the whole universe.
Starting point is 00:16:55 It's not. We are bringing people. into this country that are extremely dangerous people. And you let them in. Now, we're checking up, but according to media reports, the Minister of Immigration brought 2,000 people in from an ISIS area in one day. And he greeted them as they arrived in Australia. So that is the attitude of the Australian government.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Now, I don't think it's the attitude of the prime minister, But he's not controlling this outfit. He's not controlling this outfit. And he must take control. This is a versionary tactic to lead us away from the problem of bringing people in this country from countries that have no democracy, no rule of law, no Christianity. I won't be apologising to anyone for saying that, no industrial awards, no egalitarian traditions. But what the hell are you bringing them into this country for?
Starting point is 00:17:56 And I'll tell you why. because they vote for you. And if you're a liberal, you brought them in to prove that you, I really have no racial or religious prejudices. So to prove you have no racial or religious prejudices, you're bringing people from Hamas and ISIS areas into this country to prove that you're, oh, you know, I'm really a good guy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's suicidal empathy. And do you know what the Muslim Council of Britain is talking about? Not the victims in Australia of that Islamist terror attack, but rather the fact they want to pre-Starmer's Labour government to go harder and faster in making conversations like the one we're having today about the Muslim faith illegal. They posted the Muslim Council of Britain as deeply concerned that the government is considering watering down the suggested definition, recommended by its own working group. Instead, they seem to be considering a definition that
Starting point is 00:18:58 fails to reflect how Islamophobia actually operates in the lives of ordinary British Muslims. As John James responded, Islamophobia is a nonsense term. As a homosexual man, I have every reason to be fearful of Islam. A phobia is an irrational fear. A gay man fearing Islam is not irrational. No ideology or religion should be exempt from scrutiny and criticism, including yours. Totally. And I would argue women have every right to have a very rational fear of Islam too. That's over half of the population. What's so disturbing, though, is as we just saw from CNN, is that we now have an MSM determined to do the dirty work of Islam. I spoke yesterday about the SIOP from Bondi, which has seen the regime media and the political establishment try to focus solely on the Muslim hero of the attack, while ignoring the white Australians who fought back. Ine inevitable West has called this out, writing, this is Boris and Sophia German.
Starting point is 00:20:20 They bravely fought back against the terrorist in Sydney but were unfortunately overpowered and shot dead. The media is silent on this story because they were white Australians. Just think about that for a moment. We've had the usual platitudes from Slippery Stama but his words are meaningless because there is a war on white people.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And who is actually going to be prepared to talk about this? Ironically, it might be a black woman. And I thank you, Kemi Badenok, for rightly calling out Stama at the final PMQs of the year today. Watch. What happened at Bondi Beach was an atrocity. But words of solidarity are not enough. We know the evil we face.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Islamic extremism is a threat to Western civilisation. It abuses our democracies and subverts our institutions. It is incompatible with British values. So it is not enough just to protect Jewish communities. We must drive Islamic extremism out of this country. Nigel Farage has urged the PM to go further by banning the Muslim Brotherhood, something he absolutely should do. But is Reform UK really?
Starting point is 00:21:48 doing enough here. Connor Tomlinson thinks not. Responding to Farage, if any politician cared about keeping the British public safe, they would expel Islam from Britain. It's a foreign faith which will not reproduce our civilisation even if practiced peacefully. And it very often isn't. Being nice just isn't worth the rapes and murders. Indeed. Especially by the way, given this as a community that always sees itself as the victims. even when they are almost always the ones doing the slaughtering. Have you noticed that? Well, Leo Curse has.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And he wrote the Amans of Australia released a statement saying that while of this attack has targeted the Jewish community, it is in reality an attack on all of us, including the Muslim community. Interesting words here. In reality, it's an attack on the Muslim community. In actual reality, what happened in real life, it was. an attack by Muslims on Jews, who were targeted at a Hanukkah celebration. The only Muslim who died was one of the attackers. But the Amans aren't talking about reality. They're talking in the abstract sense, where the attack will potentially lead to Norm
Starting point is 00:23:03 McDonald's much-fared backlash against Muslims. Imagine if after the Christchurch Mosque attack, the Nazi community, if such a thing exists, had come out and said that it was in reality an attack on Nazis. They would have rightly been uproids. Meanwhile, today in the disunited kingdom, where there is no free speech and we haven't had it for a very long time, stama. The deep state bid to crack down on any ordinary person who speaks up continued, with a Twitter user jailed for 18 months for two anti-immigration tweets made after a Christmas market attack that were wait for it viewed just 33 times. So this is Luke
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yarwood. He's 36 years old. There he is. And he received an 18-month sentence after posting in the wake of that Christmas market attack in Magdeburg, Germany in December last year. His posts were reported to the police by Yawood's own brother-in-law, who he did not get on with. And Chavonne Linsley, prosecuting, said Yawood's extremely unpleasant posts had the potential to trigger disorder at one of three high-profile migrant hotels in Bournemouth Dorset, near where he lives. His barrister argued the post had 33 views between them, and were the impotent, ran teens of a socially isolated man that had no real-world consequences. But Judge Jonathan Fuller said Yawood's odious tweets were designed to stir up racial hatred and incite violence and jailed him. Now this world that we're now in in the United Kingdom, this world where Islamophobia, this made-up term, is now considered a form of racism,
Starting point is 00:25:09 Or even a lot of times, a form of violence, was the world predicted by the great Christopher Hitchens. Something he warned us about so strongly before his death. Watch. This is very urgent business, ladies and gentlemen, I beseech you. Resist it while you still can. And before the right to complain is taken away from you, which will be the next thing. You will be told you can't complain because you're Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it was an accusation of race hatred,
Starting point is 00:25:50 for example, or bigotry, whereas it's only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion. Resist it while you can. And if you wonder what will happen if you don't, look and see how a cricket team in Middlesex in England had to change its name by force last week, because it was called and had been for years, the Middlessex crusaders. Look and see how stories about little pigs can't be taught to children in English schools anymore
Starting point is 00:26:17 unless offence be taken by the religion of peace. Two decades ago. And look at where we are today. The elite class ignored Christopher Hitchens. They equated those of us questioning Islam as racists. Look at the mess, we're now left and. Now, the superstar panel. Absolutely delighted to have with us today, Reverend Cannon, Father Phil Harris,
Starting point is 00:26:56 and the leader of Advanced UK in Wales, Richard Taylor. So, Richard, can we start with this MSM attack on the Pink Ladies? Because the fact that CNN has decided that, that the pink ladies are the problem, Richard. These moms, these grandmas, these patriotic women who just go around the country, dancing and singing and saying, stop raping our daughters.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Stop letting invaders in who are attacking our young women. The fact that they are now viewed as such a threat that CNN, the International Global News Network, has decided they are the problem. Wow. it's quite something. It is indeed done.
Starting point is 00:27:42 First, may I say, congratulations on your recent 600,000 subscribers and 340 million views on your show. Thank you, Richard. Yes, we were live yesterday when we got to 600,000. Just a reminder, if you're not subscribed, please do subscribe because it does help. And hopefully, you know, it feels like it's a moot point
Starting point is 00:28:01 given what we're all discussing and what we're all going through. But I think when you look at what the regime media are doing, For example, their hit piece on the pink ladies, the importance of true independent media has never been there more. Absolutely, Dan. And I think, you know, media like yourselves and many others are out there. They're giving, you know, people the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And I think it's integral to the public that they know the full story.
Starting point is 00:28:34 When you look at the pink lady's story, for example, to time. them as far right when they are concerned mothers and and daughters and parents concerned for their communities that have been infected, invaded and changed because we've had open border policies since the 90s and then the consecutive governments, I almost sound like a broken record when I say this, but it's true. We've had no government in power that has been able to stop the invasion of a civilization. This isn't just a religion or an ideology. It's a civilization that is trying to have world dominance. And the way it's doing it down is very simple.
Starting point is 00:29:12 They want to populate the earth and they want to get into every tier of society, whether it be education, parliament, business. It doesn't matter where it is. And they want to infect that society with their ideas, with their culture and their ideologies that are not just not compatible with Western culture. They are barbaric.
Starting point is 00:29:28 They are ancient. And I consider them. And I've always said this. And I have pulled no punches here. They are a death cult. And they do not belong. And I think Conner Tomlinson is right. expel all forms of Islam in this country. Now, I know people might call me far right and
Starting point is 00:29:41 racist for that comment. Go ahead and do that. I will join the pink ladies quite gladly for you to call me far right to have my rights as a British citizen. And I know certainly for us as advanced UK, a political party that's now registered, by the way. I know that Ben has put that out there more recently. And we are a formidable force because we will stand against this invasion. We will close the borders. We will leave the ECHR. And we will make sure that we don't just come up with fancy slogans, but we will end this invasion of our country because it has to happen, Dan. And thank God that there are media outlets out there, like outspoken, for example, that are leading the charge
Starting point is 00:30:17 with not just the growth in your numbers, Dan, but also getting the message out. And the amount of viewers that are watching this right now and sharing it with their friends and family, so they get an alternative to what is being peddled by mainstream media like the BBC, the British bashing cooperation, and of course CNN, which we know, the Trump's famous words, is fake news. And I mean, Reverend Father Phil Cannon, so great to see you. And I hope you're feeling better. You have obviously been away from outspoken for a little while. So it is brilliant to have you back. And I hope that your health is improving. But actually, very important that you are here today, Father, because I find it so shocking that after an Islamist terror attack in Australia, a country which, come on, we are so close to. That is a country which is like our brothers. It's our. sister country, they're part of the Commonwealth. There is so much shared between the United Kingdom and Australia. What was the first move here in the United Kingdom? To try and push
Starting point is 00:31:19 through an Islamophobia law, which is going to make even having this discussion, Father Phil, illegal. It's twisted. It's horrendous. So just you can't see, but just there on my wall, was formerly a picture of Bondi Beach. It's now hanging in our dining room. And it is important because the bit that I think you've forgotten, Dan, is that Ruth, my wife, is Australian and from Sydney. And the reason why I had Bondi Beach hanging on my wall is it's the place for 10 years that whenever we went to Australia, we would hang out in, until we were. We moved just around the coast to Kudji. But I was just heartbroken on kind of several fronts.
Starting point is 00:32:15 The first one is every single one of those places where the shots came from, I've stood there in person many, many, many times. The bridge that the shooter was on, I've walked over many, many times as I've parked the car to go to the beach. And it just resonated, but also you know I'm a massive. supporter of Israel. And, you know, this, we have been ramping up. And the country that is Australia now is not the country that I spend a month every year staying with extended family in up until kind of, you know, COVID and just after. It's not the same country. We have seen exactly the same happening in Australia and Sydney and the, you know, the largest cities in
Starting point is 00:33:08 Australia, as we've been seeing here. And the way that Australia has capitulated is kind of quite, quite shocking really. And so this phrase that you used in your kind of buildup of suicidal empathy, that is exactly what sums up where we are at right now. It's suicidal empathy. And we are being framed and set up that we cannot criticise this so-called religion of peace. Now, I'm always very careful to... Sorry, just laugh anytime anyone calls it a religion of peace. Well, you know, I had someone come to me and say they'd been to a Bible study in a church of England church and they've got a new vicar.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And this vicar, she said, and you will probably know why I stressed that, she said and spent 40 minutes unpacking why Islam was a religion of peace. And I'm kind of going, what are we teaching in our seminaries and Bible colleges? Where are we getting this nonsense from? And the difficulty is that, you know, I have a great neighbour next door to where we live, and he's Muslim. and he's a peaceful, loving man. But he is not, he doesn't preach the message that's preached at mosques.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You know, and that's the reality, that's the difficulty. You know, the situations that I know as a fact have happened where imams have actually said to people to avoid certain places in the country and because they know that there's going to be an attack. and they're keeping their faithful away, but they won't report that attack to the authorities. 100%. I mean, I'm sorry. These people were radicalized in Australia. And Father Phil is right.
Starting point is 00:35:12 This is happening. And I say it all the time. And I know for a fact it is happening in mosques in the United Kingdom. And we've got to start waking up. We really do. What I find so astonishing, though, is that in the United Kingdom, the mainstream media has decided that the most important story of the week is Reform UK somehow being racist. Now, you've seen it constantly with Nigel Farage and the claims about what he did at school 49 years ago. And I just want to be very clear on this. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I do not care what Nigra Farage did at school 49 years ago. I just think there's a bit of an irony, though, that if this were anyone else within Reform UK, they would have had their marching orders weeks ago. And this is why Farage has to start standing up for his own people. And this is going to be a test because I want to show you our deputy prime minister to set this up, David Lammy. Do you really think David Lammy views himself as being? a true Englishman. Because I don't, and here's why, watch.
Starting point is 00:36:26 As Caribbean people, we are not going to forget our history. We don't just want to hear an apology. We want reparation. Okay, so that's just one example. But surely it's categorical. David Lamie was speaking there as Caribbean people talking about we and demanding reparations from a country that he considers other, which ironically he's now the deputy prime minister of. So I really struggle to see how or why telling David Lammy to go back to the Caribbean is a at all racist, given how he has set himself up. But this is the witch hunt currently going on against a man called Chris Parry, who was announced as reforms candidate
Starting point is 00:37:23 to be mayor for Hampshire and the Soland. And he was pushed on this during appearance on the increasingly woke left-wing talk TV by the political presenter Peter Cardwell Watch. We will come back to that in a moment. And just before we do, let me show you what happened in terms of the Labour reaction to that moment. The Labour Party chairwoman Anna Turley said it's staggering that 10 days after these racist comments were first reported. Nigel Farage is still refusing to take action. what reform senior leadership say telling a British black man from London to go home to the Caribbean is racist and no context can excuse it. Nigel Farage should stop turning a blind eye to
Starting point is 00:38:19 racism in his party and sack his candidate immediately. Reform want to drag our politics to a dark place and this inaction shows why they are not fit for high office. Then at press conferences Two days in a row, Danny Kruger, now a senior figure within Reform UK, and Richard Tice, the deputy leader of the party, were both challenged on this issue by the MSN. Watch. Amy Gibbons from The Telegraph, thanks very much. I was actually going to ask a very similar question to Dave. It was our story that revealed that Chris Parry had said that David Lammy, who was born and raised in London, should go home to the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I know you mentioned you're not familiar necessarily. with the details of the allegation. That is a direct quote of what he said. So can you say clearly now, because I haven't actually heard back from reform on this at all. If you'd back him for the Hampshire job, you're still happy for him to be your mayoral candidate. And do you think those comments are racist personally? Well, I'm afraid to say, without knowing the context of them, and without having understood what is being said, I can't comment in detail on that. That is one for Nigel and the party leadership to decide. But I do recognize Chris Perry is a very distinguished public servant. and it's good to have his support for reform. But, and I'm sorry to say that he's not the candidate at the moment because the mayoralty elections have been postponed. So there is no election. But that's something we'll have to get back to you on the detail of what's happening there.
Starting point is 00:39:48 One of your colleagues, Chris Parry, the mayoral candidate for Hampshire and Prasota, obviously, in Delay now, he said that David Lambe should go back to the Caribbean, back to home to the Caribbean. Do you support that language and do you support what he was trying to say, purely because yesterday, Danny Kruger appeared to support or even maybe defendants. I'm not familiar with what was said.
Starting point is 00:40:12 At the end of the day, David Lamy is a, he's a cabinet minister, whether we think he's doing a good job or a bad job is just part of politics. That's day-to-day life. And he will, I'm sure, continue to claim he's doing a great job. We challenge him. And in our view, this government, a number of its cabinet members. They've got no experience of business, no experience how to grow the economy, whether it's David Lamy or the Chancellor. And we've seen the numbers today. Just look at the jobs numbers, going down once again, all of the economic numbers, all of the growth numbers are going in the wrong direction.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And that is what we're going to hold this government to account on. No, Richard Tice, that wasn't the right answer. So what you've seen there is that over the course of 24 hours, it's gone from Danny Kruger's sort of mildly supporting. Perry to Richard Tice not even being prepared to speak about him whatsoever. That is not the right answer. If you are going to defend Nigel Farage, which I think you should, about what he did or did not say at school 49 years ago, then you should stand by your Merrill candidate as well.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Because sure, he told Lammy to go back to the Caribbean, but Lammy himself makes it clear that he views himself as someone from the Caribbean rather than an Englishman. I showed you that in the clip. So here's the discussion I was talking about earlier between Peter Cardwell on Talk TV and Chris Parry. Aside from your work on analysing defence and we very much appreciate the fact that you've done that this evening, you're also the mayoral candidate for Reform UK at Hampshire and the Solent. There was a question today to Danny Kruger at a press conference for Reform UK. about comments that you apparently wrote online
Starting point is 00:42:05 about David Lammy saying he must go home to the Caribbean, whereas loyalties lie. Some have called that racist. What's your reaction? Well, my reaction is that somebody in a major newspaper has a bit of an obsession about this, and you really shouldn't believe everything you're reading the newspapers.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Did you write it? Did you write that? I'm not going to talk about it. People should go to Twitter and see what was written in the context in which it happened. But all I'm saying is, if you're the foreign secretary of this country, your primary loyalty must be to this country.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Do you believe his primary loyalty to this country? Because he was born in this country. His parents weren't, of course. Ask him. To my superstar panel now, Advance UK Welsh leader, Richard Taylor, and Reverend Cannon father, Phil Harris. So, Phil, I am getting really sick and tired,
Starting point is 00:42:57 really sick and tired, of Reform UK, running away from Patriot, who have said something which is taken out of context by the media or said to be racist when actually that wasn't really what the person was suggesting and yet full support for Nigel Farage. No matter what Nigel did in the past. Now, personally, I've made it very clear.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I don't think what Nigel Farage did or said at school 49 years ago should have anything to do with his political position today. But I also believe that Reform UK starts needing to stand up for all its patriots, not just Nigel Farage. Do you think there was anything wrong with what Chris Parry said, given Lammy has described himself as a Caribbean? He wants reparations for the Caribbean. It's worrying, isn't it? So anybody who's done theology will have heard the phrase, any text without a context is a pretext for a proof text. and we have to have context to what things are, you know, what's being said, how and when, and the way that they've been said.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Otherwise, you just take snippets of what people say and that they can mean anything. And so there's always has to be a context in which things are said. So I completely agree with you around Nigel Farage, what he said at school is absolutely irrelevant to the person now. And, you know, and it doesn't matter if what he said at school was distasteful because it's different to who he is. Now, we all did stupid things. Now, at school, me included, and I put my hand up to that. However, what we actually have is these double standards seemingly by reform, and that's what bothers me. You know, that people get thrown under the bus very, very easily apart from Nigel, and we reform have got to sort that out.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So there is a context to this. My concern very often with this kind of race situation and a friend of mine who sadly is no longer with us, who was my best friend and he was from the Caribbean also. And when we had the Black Lives Matter things kick off, he rang me up and he said, Phil, don't comment because you can't win. And I actually heard those words. And there is a reality of double standards, isn't there? that when you've got a deputy prime minister who sees himself as being from the Caribbean, how does that exactly work? You know, you've got to be for this country first and foremost if you are, you know, in high office in this country. So there's a point where it is complete and utter double standards, you know. So I know someone who, you know, someone who travels around the world, you know, I've just had a Zoom call earlier with Nigeria, and you know, you can't have the standards of saying I am from the Caribbean or I am from, you know, whatever country, and therefore that comes first.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And the country I'm supposed to be serving where I hold a passport in and I'm serving high office comes second. And I think that's the point that was being made, you know, by the mayor-orough candidate. And I just think that we, Richard Tice, needed to come out very clearly and defend him and put context into it. As I think that, you know, as I think that was actually came clear in the interview with Talk TV, you know, go and look at what was said and put it into context. I find it really distasteful that you have people who have the benefits and standards of living in this nation that this nation has given them,
Starting point is 00:47:02 but they are still first and foremost want to take from this nation and give it somewhere else. Yeah, totally. And I mean, I'm sorry, Richard Taylor. I genuinely feel like David Lammy should fuck off because he called all Brexit voters Nazis. So seriously, fuck him. You know, his cry-racism schick should just be ignored by Reform UK.
Starting point is 00:47:29 It really should. And I don't know much about this Chris Parry bloke. But I certainly know that he should not lose his political career for making that comment because Lammy never lost his political career for calling me a Nazi, for attacking Donald Trump as a Nazi. which is way more sick and way more racist. Yeah. Well, you know, the saying goes down it.
Starting point is 00:47:56 The very thing they accuse you of, they aren't. David Lamb is proven that time and time again. He always uses the race card. If you look at his actual performance as Foreign Secretary, we've had people released from prison that shouldn't be released. He wants to scrap juries, which is, you know, part of our British justice. And when you consider, he wants repriations, which in his mind is justice. and slavery was ended by a white man,
Starting point is 00:48:19 may I just remind your viewers, Dan, and he wants repriations, he wants justice, but yet he wants to get rid of juries. The guy is a complete, and utter joke. And I remember that Brexit time, Dan. We were together with many of our friends as well when we stood and marched in campaign, not just to leave the EU,
Starting point is 00:48:33 but when we did, he tried to thwart the largest democratic vote in our history, along with many other politicians at the time. And, you know, people have short memories. Some of the cabinet there were, all the cabinet, Labour cabinet in particular right now, are an absolute embarrassment of this. country. If you looked at their
Starting point is 00:48:49 CBs, they do not qualify for the jobs that they're in. Now, I want to go to Farage in a minute, because it's very important. Now, Farage has thrown a number of people under the bus. People like our leader, Ben Habib, Rupert Lowe, just two. But there are many others that have been doing incredible work for reform since they were the Brexit party, then became reform.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And they've been literally thrown under the bus. Richard Tice referred to us as that lot when we supported Tom Woganson for the Freedom Spear, the festival that was held in London. And when you consider all of these things, you look at reform, they are no longer the party that they said they would represent the people. In fact, they become part of the establishment.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And Farage is a political chameleon, and he will change just to fit in with the votes that he needs at the time. Now, he should be calling David Lamy out on this and supporting his candidate. That's what you do. If you believe in the freedom of speech, as we do at Advance UK, you don't believe in it in selective measures. You believe in it in its entirety that people have a right to say what they want to. Now, what this gentleman said, this reformed candidate, was correct. David Lammy refers to himself as being from the Caribbean. I'm Welsh.
Starting point is 00:49:54 If you tell me to piss off back to Wales, guess what I'm going to go? I'm going to go back to Wales because that's where I'm from. You know, so for me, it's an absolute disgrace. And Farage, unfortunately, along with his close inner circle, they'd like the political balls to actually stand up to the establishment because, let's be frank, there was a time when they did. But now they want to be in bed with the establishment because they know in 2029 in the next general election
Starting point is 00:50:19 they're going to have to cozy up to them to get their message out there. And they've been given platforms by the media right now as we've seen all across the BBC and Sky News and all the different channels that are out there. And I think it's important for people to realize there are alternatives other than reform. Reform is not the answer.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Nigel Farage is not the Messiah. People have got this concept. He's the only one that can save this country. No, he is not. There are alternatives. We've just gone over the 40,000 mark in our membership. And we will not be ignored. We're coming up on the outside lane, Dan, very quietly, but making a lot of noise. And things are growing very fast. And in due course, policies will come out over what we're going to do is Advance UK. And I think people are going to look at us and think, do you know what? That's a party I can trust. That's a man in Ben Habib, I can put my faith in. And I believe, with all of my heart, that people need to wake up the rally. Reform are going to implode. Farage can win elections, but he cannot govern. He has no. political ability to lead. He won't stand up to the establishment. He'll become part of it. Breaking right now, a major announcement from Tommy Robinson. The next Unite the Kingdom event will be held on the 16th of May, 2026, and it has been described as a national unity march.
Starting point is 00:51:38 This has just been released from Tommy Robinson's new substack. I want to take you through it. After the historic events that saw millions from England, Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland flood the streets of London, the people have spoken. What's next? This is what's next. Huge announcement. On May the 16th, 2026, the four nations will come together once again in the heart of our capital for the largest demonstration of national unity and strength this country has ever witnessed. We will send an unmistakable message to the establishment, to the globe and to the world watching us. Britain is awake, Britain is united, Britain is unstoppable. This is more than a march.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It's a celebration of our culture, our identity, and our shared destiny. From every corner of the United Kingdom, we will descend on London to make history, and inspire the West. Your country needs you. Make your plans now. Be there on May the 16th, 2026. Help us leave them trembling. The world is watching London.
Starting point is 00:52:54 The world is watching Britain. Hashtag Britain rises. Hashtag unite the kingdom. Hashtag London 2026. Hashtag National Unity. Hashtag May the 16th. So, Reverend Canada, and Father Phil Harris, you have been a major supporter of the Unite the Kingdom movement.
Starting point is 00:53:16 This is a national unity march. The biggest show of force in history, Tommy Robinson is calling for. Will he achieve that? Yes. Without any shadow of doubt. Without any shadow of doubt, yes, he will. I think I was there and had the privilege of giving the blessing on Saturday. It was pretty difficult because I was there with my walking cane, but it was, you know, just to see the carol service there and people turn out for the carol service.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And by the way, I've had all kinds of Church of England colleagues actually complementing, you know, complimenting the carol service. In fact, I've just noticed I've got a message from Tommy now having sent him through some of those comments that I'd actually made. The populace of Tommy, people have actually genuinely realised now that this is somebody who the mainstream media, who political leaders on the left and politicians on the left and the church and everybody has tried to be smirch and the reality is the people are behind him and, you know, people say to me as a priest, how can you be behind Tommy Robinson? And my simple answer is because I know the person. And actually there's a person on a journey and what he's actually doing is he's standing up determinedly for our nation. And, you know, what we, the thing I used to say about Tommy is he very often said the right things in the wrong way. I think actually now there's a different Tommy Robinson and people are realizing that what he's saying is making a great deal of sense. So, you know, May the 16th, it's going to.
Starting point is 00:55:06 to be get there or be square, you know, we need to be supporting that and people need to be supporting that because the amount of people that are now in the nation identifying with what Tommy is saying is just profound. Indeed it is. I mean, wow, this is going to be a big moment because I think Father Phil is completely right. The game has changed. I mean, our broadcast, Richard Taylor from the Unite the Kingdom rally, went around the world, over a million views. Outspoken will of course be broadcasting this made the 16th event totally live as well with Lauren the insider joining our coverage, which I'm so excited about. But I wonder if there's going to be more politicians brave enough next time around, Richard,
Starting point is 00:56:02 because at the last event, only your leader, Ben Habib, he was the only politician in the country with the balls to be there on stage. He received a rapturous welcome. His support increased. He described Slippery Stama as a wanker. And actually, it was an incredible thing for Advance UK because you very quickly hit that membership target. Do you think the game has changed?
Starting point is 00:56:32 enough to see any other mainstream politician at this event? I think the game has certainly changed. Whether or not we'll see another politician at this event, I'm not entirely convinced because, of course, Tommy Tis for a lot of people is quite toxic in their minds. But for those of us who know him as the person, as Reverend Phil mentioned, he is a genuine man who cares about his country, who cares about the people.
Starting point is 00:56:55 He's a family man, who cares about children. And of course, his way of exposing things is not palatable to everybody. week is fantastic. I think the guy's a living legend. I don't hero worship any or sycophant over anybody. What he has done in exposing the lies and what mainstream media have done over the years and how he's exposed them and how he's still going after being put into prison for what he believes. And now his journey of faith as well, which has been nothing but extraordinary. I think what Ben Habib has always said that anybody who was a British citizen in this country
Starting point is 00:57:26 that is allowed, that is on electoral role, is able to vote, then they can join our party. We took a massive hit. when Tommy Robson joined our party we were criticised by a lot of people even those who were on the right side of the argument but Ben did it because he believes that every British citizen in this country has a right now he is a member of our party
Starting point is 00:57:45 now we've been tagged as far right because of our association with Tommy and if you look at our key principles down we're not far right at all we believe in the freedom of speech sovereignty democracy and equality under the law four pillars of our party on which upon which we will build and develop our policies. And they are really important if you're going to save this country
Starting point is 00:58:07 because let's face it, we are right now facing existential threat to our country. We mentioned at the start of the show the way things are changing massively. And we need to pull ourselves back on the precipice because things are getting worse, not better. But there is an alternative. And I will certainly be there and supporting Tommy. And I'm sure if Ben gets the call, I'm sure that he will attend as well. And going back to his song, Kiyostham is a wanker. I don't think it was in his script, but he sure he did enjoy it. He really did. And Father Phil, do you see a change in Tommy Robinson
Starting point is 00:58:42 following his Christian awakening? I mean, that was very clear at the Unite the Kingdom event on Saturday, put the Christ back into Christmas. Obviously, the mainstream media are terrified by this. I mean, there's hit piece after hit piece. How terrible, you know, how terrible in a Christian country that Tommy Robinson and his supporters are supporting Christianity. But I just wonder, as a man who has known Tommy Robinson for a long time now,
Starting point is 00:59:09 if you see a change in him after his embrace of Christianity? I did a deliberate thing on Saturday, which was when he talked about being failed by the church, I actually went and stood next to him and put my arm around him. to actually say the confessing in Anglican Church is standing with you, Tommy. And I just wanted to make that declaration. And so I'm aware of his journey to faith in prison. And obviously he himself on the stage on Saturday, he said, I knew about Islam,
Starting point is 00:59:52 but until being in prison, I didn't know about Jesus. And there is, I've got a photograph that I took, the little girl that came up at the end that was absolutely spontaneous that wasn't planned and I was aware of the running order I was part of that running order as the program was put together
Starting point is 01:00:13 all that we knew that was that Tommy was going to speak for a few moments at the end and this little girl is there just kind of waving and he begs her forward and the security lifter over the hoardings and she comes and she gives a far better message than any of the preachers
Starting point is 01:00:29 or the clergy that were actually there on the day. And I've got a picture of Tommy looking at her with tears in his eyes because she was preaching the good news of Jesus. And Tommy is on a journey of faith. And I think the one thing that he said on Saturday was, I'm a sinner. I'm wrestling with sin. And, you know, and don't we all, by the way,
Starting point is 01:00:54 don't we all struggle with sin? And so Tommy's on a journey. I think there is, you know, and he's working that through and, you know, he's working through what it looks like for him and, you know, what it means for him to be a follower of Christ. Is there a change? Absolutely. Do I expect there continue to be a change? Yes, because that's what regeneration and that's what the work of the Holy Spirit does in us. And so I'm actually, I've been very careful in the past. You know, I have people saying you've stood on a, stage with Tommy Robinson. And if you look up until up until Saturday, I hadn't. You know, I'd supported him, but I hadn't actually done that. And that was very deliberate. But actually
Starting point is 01:01:42 the work of God that's gone on in him, there is a different man here. There is a man that has been touched by his experience in prison. And if anyone tries to tell me otherwise, I will say to them, get to know the person before you criticize. And that has been a a constant on my ex-feeds, you know, since Saturday. And so expect a different Tommy Robinson, and he's on a journey, as we all are. And I echo Richard's words.
Starting point is 01:02:13 He was a genuine person before, very misunderstood, very misheard. And can I just say, when people said to me in the past, oh, he's committed all these crimes, if you actually look at what he has done, there's nothing there really when you actually start to what he's been accused of there's kind of explanations
Starting point is 01:02:34 and stories and context behind all of it and I spent a lot of time looking at that so different person but actually the person previous was doing great work and I just want to be very clear about that
Starting point is 01:02:49 breaking right now a breakfast TV and radio right wing war, with three rival shows launching on January the 5th and going head to head, including Axt Talk TV host Mike Graham up against his former best friend Jeremy Kyle, who overnight has confirmed that he will take over that Mike Graham breakfast slot on the fading and increasingly left wing and woke talk TV. Watch his announcement. I did say a bit of announcement.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I mean, it's just a, is it a big announcement? Listen, I'm going to do breakfast permanently from the new year, you lucky, lucky people. And it'll be changing a little bit, a few things. But we'll let you know more about that. But a brand new talk breakfast show with yours truly launching on Monday the 5th of January with a few surprises along the way. This is talk. The Jeremy Car Breakfast Show will launch on Monday the 5th of January.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's all about the news still. It's all about your opinions, alarm clock Britons, and how you envisage see and feel that news affects you on a daily basis. But a few different things, a few people involved will tell you more over the next couple of days. But a brand new breakfast show, 6 a.m. Monday, 5th of January, exclusive 2.2. So that's interesting because Jeremy Kyle had initially said, no, of course I'm not going to replace my best mate, Mike Graham. I wouldn't do that. Interesting what the dollars can do. But there it is. No longer morning glory. It's called the Jeremy Kyle Breakfast Show, the home of alarm
Starting point is 01:04:39 clock Britain, where the nation comes to talk. But indeed, that's not how talk viewers seem to feel about this because there was actually anger when this announcement was made from the talk TV listeners who were very furious, I think it was fair to say, that Mike was no longer going to be there. There's a third rival though. And this is interesting and this is new, clearly sensing that they want to go head to head with Mike Graham, who has been a long time rival, my friends, that the Lotus Eaters will also be launching their first live breakfast show on exactly the same day, Monday, January the 5th. Watch. We have an announcement, actually, which is on the 5th of January, something eyebrow-shaped
Starting point is 01:05:41 is happening. Is that right? It is. Apparently, you're starting a breakfast show, though. Yeah, there's going to be your breakfast with Bo. The Breakfast with Bo show. That's right. It's going to start. We're going to have a breakfast show from 8 a.m. to 9 a.m. Every day, daily with me. And, yeah, I'm just going to go through the news that morning, you know, like looking at the papers or the digital papers sort of thing. Every morning, just, yeah, just a one hour sort of rundown, set you up for the day.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Listen to it if you haven't got time in the mornings. These are the things that they're going to be freaking out about today, so tune in, be aware. I love that, the most base breakfast show ever. Yes. The most sort of mild format ever. just subverted by the most based breakfast show ever but of course mike graham he is also launching his live breakfast show returning with features like plank of the week on that same date so it's kyle versus graham versus dade this is what mike told me in his first interview since his
Starting point is 01:06:46 controversial departure from Talk TV about how he felt about Jeremy Kyle. Watch. Why do you think Gary Lineker's fellow presenters stood with him when he was suspended from match of the day and refused to go on Air Force in a climb down from the BBC, but Jeremy Kyle and Kevin O'Sullivan seen happy to step badly into Mike's shoes and not back him. Reform UK grassroots posted, it would be great if Mike Graham's call. that talk TV stood by his side and threatened to quit if he wasn't reinstated. You all know who you are. The alternative is all your viewers and listeners switch to GB News. Either way, you'll have to lose your jobs, your call. So I mean, this is not coming from me.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I know a lot of these people are great people, but aren't we quite bad on the right, Mike, in terms of actually sometimes standing up for each other? Yeah. Again, I can't fault any of them for what they didn't do, if you know what I'm mean you know because you're not angry you're not up so not at all and I'm not I'm not angry even at News UK and I want to make that very clear you know I'm not I'm not trying to you know expose them for anything like that and I'm not trying to I don't want to take anything out on on my former you know colleagues because you think they were very difficult position of course they were and they're and they're and
Starting point is 01:08:03 they're and they're and they're and they're and they're still friends of mine you know and and you know I've got long-standing friendships in that business in that building with people which is that which is never going to change you know it will be difficult for them for a while because they'll probably be told to God's sake, don't be seen with Mike Graham, you know, don't go anywhere near him, you know. You can be disappointed sometimes with people, but by and large, you know, they've all been pretty supportive, you know, away from the screen. And at the beginning... So they're in contact with you privately?
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah, many of them are, yeah. Yeah, not absolutely all. But I would say that I don't want to get them in trouble, you know. Yeah. But we'll be okay. I mean, on as I, as I has asked, is Jeremy Kyle still joining you on your public speaking to her next year? Do you still talk? Of course. Absolutely. He's a good friend of mine. Because you had to postpone that day. Yeah, because it was right in the middle of it all, you know, and it was just probably the wrong time.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I mean, I had in my sort of madder moments, I thought, this could be brilliant. You know, imagine me going out on the stage and going, I came here on the tube tonight. It's very crowded, you know. But I thought, now, it's really probably the best thing not to do that. And I think it would have been difficult for Jeremy as well, given that, you know, I was currently. But again, they told me more than once, you're not suspended. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:28 To my superstar panel, Reverend Cannon, Father Phil Harris, and Richard Taylor, the Welsh leader of Advance UK. Richard, lots of people saying, talk's just over now. It's not going to recover. What I'm very excited about is the fact that we do have these based breakfast options. I'm desperate for that. I don't want the MSM at breakfast time. And by the way, that does include G.B. News and that does include talk TV.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Of these three shows, is there one that you're going to be plumping for? Well, if I made the two things, firstly, Dan, I do like Mike Graham a lot. And I was a reg long plank of the week and really enjoyed his company and his presence. And his skill as a presenter, absolutely outstanding. And in fact, I've been in touch with him yesterday, actually, and spoke to him about his name show, congratulating him on the numbers and figures. And I think having more of these programs competing against each other is a good thing.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Secondly, what I'd like to say is this. We have our own show called Richie and Rogue, right? And we're launching our breakfast show in the new year. And it's actually, actually, it's not a breakfast show. It's a brunch show because we don't like early mornings. So hours won't be 6 a.m. It's probably around 10, 11 a.m. So this is my plug to all your outspoken viewers, Dan.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Another one. We're launching our whole breakfast show. So we're going to be competing as well. We're only a small podcast at the moment, but growing every single day, thanks to all those that support us. And to many of you watch Dan as well, I know that you share these platforms. But I think it's a wonderful thing. The more we have, the better, because people have a choice to have a menu. When you go to a restaurant, you don't want the same food on the menu.
Starting point is 01:11:01 You want a different menu. And I can assure you, the Richie and Rogue Show is very, very different to any else that's out there. Father Phil, what do you think about Jeremy Kyle replacing Mike Graham? Does that show a lack of loyalty towards his best, mate? I don't know the context, but there is this phrase of dancing on other people's graves. And I'm conscious that I'm on a show where the host of it and whose show it is found himself in a similar position. Yeah, I have so much sympathy because it's like, I've been there. And I know that we spoke actually, you know, as you were going through that journey down.
Starting point is 01:11:43 You were amazing to me at that dark, dark time in my life. And so it's about context. So I love the fact that Richard just did a shameless plug, and it was totally thoroughly shameless there and used your platform to do. So it's not that in. No, I actually, do you know one thing I love and that I feel so proud of is that I want to support
Starting point is 01:12:07 all of these independent entrants into the market, actually, genuinely. So I'll support Richard's show. I'll support Mike's show. I'll support Bo's show. Because to me, I'm like, there can't be enough of us in this space. There needs to be more.
Starting point is 01:12:24 There needs to be more and more of us. And actually, I did catch up with Mike Graham last week at the Trigonometry Christmas Party. And Alex Phillips was there. She's still on talk. And he's doing really well. You know, he is doing really well. And so it's great now that there is hope
Starting point is 01:12:43 in this independent space and I think that even in the 18 months since I've launched, and by the way, thank you again for getting us to 600,000 subscribers. If you're not subscribed, just hit subscribe. It's free. I'm sorry to go on
Starting point is 01:13:01 about it, but it does really, really help us at this developing stage. But yeah, I'm like, the more, the merrier, if I can wake up in the morning and not have to switch on LBC for my news or not switch on GB News for my news or not switch on Talk TV for my news. I am there for it. So absolutely, let's do it because what we have to prove is that the MSM is dead and buried. If it's dead and buried, there's got to be alternatives to that. So the more entries into this market, the better in my view. Breaking today, Megan Markle just declared war on GB News.
Starting point is 01:13:41 confirming my scoop from yesterday that she had made a defamation threat to the channel after Carol Malone went on air live to claim that her mother had gone to jail. So this has been a really interesting story, but what it shows to me is that the delusional duchess is so ungracious, even when it comes to an apology. But in case you haven't seen what Malone said on air initially to spark all of these issues, here's a reminder. Disadvantaged people. So where's her compassion for the father who actually brought her up, who paid for her private education while her mother was in jail, who took huge care of her? And she's not seen him in the latter years, more importantly. I mean, she's not just seen him. She's like totally snubbed him.
Starting point is 01:14:37 When was her mom in jail? When was her mom in jail? Years ago. Do you want me to give the precise date time? I haven't got it. I've never heard that forever. Years ago. Anyway, she, but you know, this older gentleman now could be dying.
Starting point is 01:14:52 He needs to see his... Now, what's very interesting is that Malone was dragged to the studio on a day where she doesn't usually present. For what I describe as a hostage video apology, which GB News very quickly scrubbed from the internet, but we were able to capture. To me, it was obvious that the channel didn't want to do this and that there had been a legal threat. This is what went down on air. In an episode of Britain's Newsroom on Thursday, December the 4th, 2025, I stated that Thomas Markle, the Duchess of Sustiska's father, brought Megan up while her mother, Doria Ragland, was in prison. I believe this to be the case based on what I now understand to be misinformation.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I had seen online. I was questioned about the validity of this claim during the broadcast and I repeated this belief which I now understand to be false. This was a genuine error. I accept what I have now been told on behalf of Ms. Ragland that she raised her daughter
Starting point is 01:15:53 and that she has never been in prison or jail. I apologise sincerely to Ms. Ragland and her family for any pain my comments may have caused and I'm happy to set the record straight. Can I just say on behalf of TV News because I was on the programme that day. We all wished to apologise to Ms Raglan for the area
Starting point is 01:16:09 and we are happy to correct the record. Now, if you were a half-decent human being, you'd think that was pretty mortifying. We'll take the win, given that there are so many question marks about where Doria Ragland was when Thomas Markle, currently languishing in a hospital in the Philippines,
Starting point is 01:16:29 his daughter hasn't bothered to visit, even though he's had his left leg amputated. Where was she during all of the teenage years? But we're talking about Megan Markle, so of course there was absolutely no grace. Instead, after that apology, she leaked to her favorite US magazine people to react, suggesting that broadcasters have a responsibility to inform and not in flame. Let me read you out this full quote from Megan, who said, Ms. Ragland proudly raised her daughter and has never been in prison.
Starting point is 01:17:05 G.B. News did not apologize voluntarily, but only to escape a defamation lawsuit. Confirmation of my story there. And it speaks volumes that G.B. News removed any trace of that apology within 24 hours of making it. So I've got a couple of points about this. The first, and I find this hilarious, G.B. News since I left, has actually turned into a bit of a propaganda network for Harry and Megan. There's a guy called Cameron Walker, who is the royal correspondent on that. channel, he has very close ties to Omid Scobie and regularly publishes lies on behalf of Harry and Megan. So the idea that G.B. News is actually reporting the truth about the terrible deeds of Prince Harry and Megan Markle is not true anyway. That is the first point. The second point that I would make is that there is a disgusting attempt by Ms. Markle to rewrite history in terms of her father. and it came at the very start of that statement
Starting point is 01:18:07 where she said Ms. Raglan proudly raised her daughter. Not true. Not true. Megan Markle, you were raised by Thomas Markle. It might not suit your narrative now because he's a white man and you've cut contact with him because your husband didn't like the fact that he did a deal with the paparazzi.
Starting point is 01:18:31 But you were raised by Thomas Markle. was effectively a solo dad. Never forget it. Indeed, I've spoken to a close Markle family source today. I just want to read you out a little bit of what they said. So now GB News are printing whatever Megan demands that they print. Doria did not raise Meg. She was never at Thomas Markle's house when Megan was at school. We never saw Doria. For years, Thomas Markle raised Megan. That is a very close source to the Markle family.
Starting point is 01:19:16 And I just find it utterly repulsive. I want to bring my superstar panel in on this, Richard Taylor and Reverend Cannon, Father Phil Harris. Father Phil, I just find it pretty repulsive, right, that you've got Thomas Markle, who is a great man. I mean, he's an Emmy Award-winning TV production guy. He spent about $750,000 of his own money raising Megan Markle, paying for her to go to North Western University. I mean, he raised this woman. That is him currently, Phil, in a hospital in the Philippines, having had his left leg amputated. So a very low moment in his life in which his daughter has decided to use it to attack him via a letter that she sent to him.
Starting point is 01:19:57 I think that's pretty grim and pretty dark. But it's the first line of this quote, Phil. Ms. Raglan proudly raised to her daughter. What about your father? You cannot rewrite history. This kind of stuff as a priest really breaks my heart. Family, and let me just be very clear here, family is incredibly important and precious.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Integrity is incredibly important and precious. And not only has Megan, you know, disrespected family, she's disrespected her father and she has done it at the expense of integrity and seems to consistently, you know, undermine things and issues of integrity, she just doesn't know what integrity is. And it's all for her own personal gain. and I just really it's heartbreaking we have this this father who was a doting father who he's now in hospital having lost his leg and I sympathise with that I'm still walking but I have spinal problems right now so I identify with that and I'm just grateful for family and people around me that have been through with me over the last few months and for one's own daughter to turn their back it's just horrendous, you know. And honour thy father and thy mother is a really important principle. And when we stop doing that, society breaks down and we lose our souls and who we are. And unfortunately, Megan seems to have forgotten what it is to honour mother and father. And notice it's not just mother and just father.
Starting point is 01:21:57 it's actually about honouring father and mother. And so I'm a heartbroken, heartbroken for her dad, and I am just angry, frustrated, hurt at the way that someone can be just so disrespectful that it is, you know, for personal gain to be so disrespectful, it's just horrendous. Arendous is the word, is the adjective. It really is. Richard Taylor, what did you think about this for? from a GB News perspective, very embarrassing for them to have to make that type of on-air apology.
Starting point is 01:22:32 But I would also argue very ungracious of Megan Markle to then pose to sort of, ha, ha, ha, ha, statement saying, you only did it because I threatened you with a defamation lawsuit. She is so nasty. Absolutely. I think in the first instant down, with any journalism, she should always crack the record if things have been said. Totally. But of course, I think with Megan, you've covered Megan Markle's story extensively for years, Dan,
Starting point is 01:23:01 I know from your previous employer, and still coming on outspoken. And it's clear to me she's come from very small, humble beginnings, given her life, was her father contributed hugely to her life, who she has chosen to ignore, and being very vicious and nasty towards him, as Reverend Phil was saying there,
Starting point is 01:23:20 you know, honour thy mother and father, that your life might be long in the land. I think that's the verse he, referring to. And I think it's important that we understand those who help to raise us to get us to where we are. There was a saying someone once said to me, always remember people on your way up, because you never know, you might need them on your way down. And I think it's imperative that people remember that. And I think she has lost all sight of that. Let's not forget, she's a family wrecker when she got with Harry and what she caused with the royal family,
Starting point is 01:23:46 with the late queen mother. And, you know, she has a history of doing this. And she often uses, again, and we mentioned the start of the show, the race card, when she went on Oprah for Winfrey's show and she exposed apparently the royal family, call them racists and all that kind of stuff. And I think there's a nasty streak in the woman. And, you know, I've seen it, I've witnessed it, and I think this is one of those cases
Starting point is 01:24:08 where her father is in the Philippines in hospital. I know that you've been in touch with him over the years as well, Dan. And he is suffering. And, you know, I'm a son. You know, if my mother was in hospital, irrespective of what had happened in the past, I would rush to her bedside and be there with her. I wouldn't use the media to score points and to make myself look good and sell stories to the press, which is what she seems keen on
Starting point is 01:24:31 doing. And this is a woman, remember, who said, I don't want to be in the limelight anymore. I don't want to be famous anymore. We want to slip away from it. You want to go off grid. And all I've ever seen is her face everywhere. She's plastered everywhere. You know, Netflix series is, you name it. She's on it. Totally. Totally. Oh, Richard Taylor, so well put. the leader of Advance UK in Wales. Thank you so much. And Reverend Cannon, Father Phil, Harris, I'm very excited to announce that Father Phil will be back with us on Christmas Day.
Starting point is 01:25:00 We are going to be hosting a very special Christmas Day episode of the show. I'm going to reveal more details about it later in the week. 5pm UK time, Midday Eastern, 9am Pacific on Christmas Day. But Father Phil will be part of it, so I cannot wait for that. episode, Father Phil, thank you so much. Great to have you back on Outspoken, fabulous superstar panel. Thank you both. I will reveal today's greatest Britain Union and Jackass in just one moment. First, though, to your feedback. Loads of it coming through, by the way. Thank you to Lara Silver, Heather Reese and Nicola M. for joining Outspoken Plus. And thank you to Abdullah Siraj for the
Starting point is 01:25:37 super chat. Lynn Taylor Joe says, don't care for Kay Burley, wide up or wrong, gormless woman. Juliet Johnson says they just throw far right on everything so frivolously. M.R.H on the CNN attack on the Pink Lady says, Pink Ladies, please don't explain. Anyone with an ounce of decency knows who you are and what you stand for. John Kerr says Stama is a weak Prime Minister that only puts words out after these attacks and does not call it out for what it is. And Joan Baker says, I'm in Australia.
Starting point is 01:26:08 And we can see we are heading the same way as the UK and we don't. want it. And on this whole David Lammy v. Reform UK, Raul Halen Shepard says, the Caribbean people came to England willingly to work. I would like to know how we owe them reparations. Many have lived very good lives here, particularly Lammy. Okay, a reminder of your nominees for today's union jackass. Dr. Scholar for shouting about Zionists after the Bondi Massacre nominated by Darren Donaldson. Norinda Corr, nominated by Scott Fly 23 for Waxine lyrical about her five-pound blow-dry in India, and Kay Burley, nominated by the Gryft Report for saying just how safe London is, and, you know, Rupert Lowe's lying about talking about the reality
Starting point is 01:26:54 of Sadiq Khan's hellscape. Okay, the results are in. 16% of you have gone for Kay Burley, the runner-up with 32% of the vote, Narenda Kour. But today's Union Jackass with a massive 52% of the vote, it is Dr. Shola. And we have an honorary. greatest Britain today, although the point is made that he is half Scottish. So, okay, I'll give you that. It's only me 44. It's Donald Trump for his 10 billion pound lawsuit against the BBC, which will hopefully bankrupt the British bashing corporation. Okay, we're moving over to Substack now for the Royal Uncanceled Aftershow with P Diner. You can sign up to watch at www. outspoken.live. But we will be back with you live tomorrow 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hit subscribe right now if you're
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