Dan Wootton Outspoken - NIGEL FARAGE MEGA MOMENTUM AS HE SILENCES EMILY MAITLIS & MSM + TIM MONTGOMERIE SPEAKS OUT

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Mega momentum for Reform UK, as Nigel Farage wins a major award and leaves a room filled with MSM figures like Emily Maitlis in stunned silence. The panic coming from the MSM and Westminster comes as bookies take bets on Farage being the next Prime Minister and a defection that has rocked the Tories to their core. Speaking out on the show is Tim Montgomerie, the founder of Conservative Home, who is considered a centrist within the party but quit yesterday to join Reform UK. Does he agree with Jacob Rees Mogg that there will have to be a deal between the two parties of the right? Dan will ask him. PLUS: Kemi Badenoch slams Slippery Starmer for hiring a fraudster into his first Cabinet, but her performance still underwhelms. AND: Why are Britain’s Christmas markets being protected by armed cops? Father Calvin Robinson analyses the security threat targeting Christianity. THEN: In the Uncancelled Aftershow P-Dina on why David and Victoria Beckhan’s attendance at a regal state dinner last night at Buckingham Palace is a hammer blow to their ex-friends Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Sign up to watch the exclusive Aftershow at www.outspoken.live. Today’s Sponsors: SURFSHARK - Go to https://surfshark.com/outspoken for an extra four months of Surfshark at an unbeatable price VERSO - https://buy.ver.so/outspoken - Use code OUTSPOKEN to save 15% on your first order. MANSCAPED - https://manscaped.com – get 20% off + free shipping with the code Outspoken. ---------- Dan Wootton Outspoken is fan funded through monthly and one-time donations: https://www.outspoken.live ---------- Join Dan's Substack community: https://www.danwoottonoutspoken.com ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton #DanWoottonOutspoken #news #outspoken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and a defection that has rocked the Tories to their core. Speaking out live in just a moment, Tim Montgomery, the founder of Conservative Home, considered a centrist within the party, but he quit yesterday to join Reform UK. Does he agree with Jacob Rees-Mogg that there will have to be a deal between the two parties of the right? I will ask him. Also coming up on the show today, Kemi Badenoch slams Slippery Starmer for hiring a fraudster into his first cabinet, but her performance still underwhelmed. So I'll show you the best bits.

And why are Britain's Christmas markets being protected by armed cops? Father Calvin Robinson analyses the security threat targeting Christianity at our most important time of year. Then in the uncancelled after show, P. Dina on why David and Victoria Beckham's attendance at a regal state dinner last night at Buckingham Palace is a hammer blow to their ex-friends Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. And remember, our uncancelled after show now broadcast exclusively daily and on demand on Substack. You can Google it or get to it right now by visiting www.outspoken.live. Paid monthly membership gets you access to the after show, my exclusive reporting and columns ability to chat live with me on the sub stack app and join a thriving community.

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They're not laughing now, are they? Nigel Farage has all the momentum in British politics. It's not going to be an easy road to number 10, but the unthinkable smashing of the UK's two-party system, which has created a uniparty dominated by big spenders, high taxes and pro-mass migration globalists, well, it now seems within grasp. And the Westminster elite know it. So while they'll double down on their attacks, they're admitting for the first time that they are bloody terrified. Last night Nigel won the Newcomer of the Year awards at the Spectator's annual Westminster Lovey Fest.

He posted, last night I told the Spectator awards there would be hundreds of reformed newcomers in Parliament before long. The look on Wes Streetine's face says it all. These people are usually all in it together, you know. I mean, I saw pictures last night of Beth Rigby gossiping with Angela Rainey. You get the drift. But Farage, the Westminster outsider, at least in the past, is now a serious threat to their deep state existence. As Matt Goodwin observed, people at the Spectator Awards used to laugh at Nigel Farage. Last night, I sat in the room as he warned them reform will cause an earthquake at the next election.

There was total silence because everybody knows it could happen. Now, perhaps the most hilarious reaction came from Emily Maitlis of the fake news agents. Her grandma was appalling, so maybe she'd quaffed a few too many of the fake news agents. Her grammar was appalling, so maybe she'd quaffed a few too many of the free champers, but she wrote, Nigel Farage wins spectator parliamentary newcomer there. He tells the crowd that the next election will be full of reformed newcomers in their hundreds.

He sits down to a silent, stunned room. And you know, Maitlis is a bit like the American lefty broadcasters who were so convinced that Kamala Harris was about to storm the White House because she lives in an alternate reality for ordinary people. And there was also some silence from the Conservative Party yesterday after the bombshell announcement that Tim Montgomery, a Tories Tory and the founder of Conservative Home, a party member for over 30 years, was defecting to Reform UK. Some inside the reform movement are even concerned the shock poaching could see the party move

further to the centre. But for Nigel, what matters is proving that reform are an electoral force that have a realistic chance of beating the Tories. And while he says he won't leave, Jacob Rees-Mogg has become the first big beast to openly call for an arrangement between the two parties. Watch. I'm a Tory to my toenails. I'm not going to change party. But the success of reform is in having stolen the Tory party's clothes. That's the failure of the Tory party. I mean, as Kemi Benok has quite rightly said, we spoke right and governed left.

And no wonder a lot of our voters deserted us. So 4 million off to reform, 2.3 million stayed at home, who had been conservative voters and those people left us because we weren't actually doing what we said we would do look at the immigration figures but if but if they've stolen your clothes is it not wise politically to think about as andrea jen has done, think about your future, where the excitement is, where the momentum is, and look at a party like reform. We've got Elon Musk. I wonder how, I wonder what you think about this, his very generous donation of a million dollars to Nigel Farage with the explicit ambition of making Nigel Farage the next UK Prime Minister.

Yeah, it's harder to do in this country than it is in the United States, because obviously with the presidential election you have one flag carrier, and here you need to win 325 seats, and reform's a long way off that. I think there's a lot of overlap in the policies that conservatives and reform believe in. I think that Kemi Badenoch is quite capable of putting forward a strong conservative message, which is what she is doing, and I think that will attract people back. But do I think there may need to be some accommodation between the Conservatives and reform? Yes, I don't know what form it will take. It's too early to say.

But in a first-past-the-post system, if one wing of politics is split, that wing of politics loses. As you, you know, as we saw... As we saw at the last election. I think it's a bit more complicated than that because I think a lot of people were voting to get rid of the Tories come May at the last election. People were very fed up with us. There is a tectonic shift happening on the right of British politics

and maybe, just maybe, it could save our United Kingdom. Now, Tim Montgomery is here for the uncancelled interview. Tim, so great to speak to you. I was live yesterday when Reform UK made this announcement. And I have to say I was stunned. I was stunned because I know that you have been unhappy with Kemi Bailinok's leadership. But as I said in the Digest, you're a Tories Tory. So I never thought you would actually leave for another party. Oh, just unmute yourself, Tim, so that we can hear you. There we go. We'll get it. Sorry.

There we are. Not only have I been in the Conservative Party for 36 years, I'm too old now to work the technology, Dan, but hopefully you can hear me now. Can hear you loud and clear, so go ahead, Tim. Yeah, no, I surprised myself, really. But, Dan, we've had conversations on and off over the last few years. And I think you'll have noticed that I've been on a bit of a journey myself. I've been restless and unhappy with the Conservative Party for some time. I think we clashed when you were in a previous incarnation over Boris Johnson. I felt he had stopped really being the kind of Conservative leader the country deserved.

Immigration rose on his watch. He pursued all the net zero agenda. And on some of the values questions, tax, he was off course, in my view. And so it's been an accumulation for me of one misstep after another by the Conservative Party. I still feel, I believe, the same things that I did in 1988 when at a Tory party, 1989, I'm sorry,

1989, I was at a Tory party conference and I was stood on chair. There's probably camera footage of it somewhere of me shouting 10 more years about Margaret Thatcher's time in office. I still believe in those things today that I believed in then. My question is, does the Conservative Party still believe in those things? Would Thatcher have defected to Reform UK under these circumstances? Yeah, you're not the first person to ask me that question. And I don't know, but I think she would have certainly fought very hard inside the Conservative Party to try and change it.

And, you know, joining another party, leaving the Conservative Party would have been a last resort for her, as it has been for me. You know, I have thought on many previous occasions, potentially, whether I should leave the Conservative Party. And it was only really following last Thursday's immigration statistics, which, to think, Dan, that nearly a million people net came into our country in one single year. You know, an extraordinary, extraordinary statistic. You know, Britain is being changed by a level of immigration that the British people never consented to. And for me, that happened under the Conservative Party. They could have done something about it. This was legal migration. It's not about, you know, even about the boats crossing the Channel illegally. This was legal migration, which the Conservative Party could

have controlled, and they didn't. So who knows what Mrs Thatcher would have done in response to that kind of change. But it was that kind of Conservative Party failure that led me to take the difficult decision that I did yesterday. On a practical basis, do you think Nigel Farage can become prime minister? Yeah, I do, actually. It's a long way off. But have you read Michael Crick's biography of Nigel Farage? No. No. Michael Crick is not. That was a very definite no. I'm not a fan of Mr. Crick. I'm not a fan of Mr. Crick or his journalism.

Nigel claims he hasn't read it either, but enlighten me. He doesn't have your politics. He doesn't have my politics. But his biography of Nigel Farage, I think, is very interesting, precisely because he comes from a perspective that's different from ours. And he said, you know, of all the politicians he's sort of seen over the years. Nigel Farage's combination of being able to lead a political party, to be able to perform on television, you know, in pub environments, on the street with people, to better, you know,

the perseverance he's had to stick to a cause, to put a cause like Brexit on the national agenda when no one else was talking about it. He's an extraordinary politician, extraordinarily gifted. So talking about him becoming prime minister might seem fanciful to some of your subscribers, some of the people watching us now. But I wouldn't rule

Nigel Farage out from being incapable of anything, really. What about this concern within Reform UK that it's becoming a bit like tory light and that people like you might drag reform uk to the center there's already been question marks over the fact that nigel has ruled out mass deportations has said that he's not worried about the change in demography in the UK. Yeah, well, I'm sure some people will worry. Someone yesterday described me as a wet Liberal Tory. I think that's the first time I've been called a wet Liberal Tory, given some of my views. But there are certainly issues where I don't agree with Nigel Farage.

And yesterday I had my £25 in my hand and I handed it agree with Nigel Farage. And yesterday I had my £25 in my hand and I handed it over to Nigel and I said, before you accept this money, Nigel, are you sure you want me? Because, you know, I've been an irritant to the Conservative Party over the years. I knew perhaps I'm going to be an irritant to reform now. And there are things like I support the overseas aid budget.

You know, so there are areas of policy where I'm not going to be signed up to reform. But I'm never going to stand as a reform candidate. I just fundamentally on the core stuff the reform stands for, control of immigration, keeping the tax burden down, sensible policies on net zero. I stand with Nigel Farage and the rest of the parliamentary leadership on those issues. And Dan, if reform are going to go from five MPs to 35 to 105 to 205, they're going to have to reach a broader number of people than they do at the moment. What are the opinion polls saying? They've got about 20% support at the moment. If, if, if they were to come close to replacing the

Conservative Party as the party of the opposition, they certainly need to be 30%, 35%. If they were to come close to replacing the Labour Party as the party of government, they certainly need to be aiming closer to 40% of support. So, you know, it can't remain a sect. It can't be a sect. It can't be a party that only appeals to a narrow group of people. Are Robert Jenrick and Suella Braverman going to end up joining you, defecting? Well, I have no knowledge about that at all.

Do you think so? Including Rob, who I told I was defecting to the day before, just out of courtesy. I don't have any relationship with Kemi Badenoch, so didn't forewarn her. But I told people like Robert Jenrick that I was leaving and he said he understood why I was taking the decision that I did. But everyone has to speak for themselves. You know, I I'm not doing this As part of a group of people. This is very much me acting alone. I'm certainly going to be recording a video tomorrow addressed to my fellow conservative well previous old habits die hard By previous fellow conservatives urging them to sort of follow the path that I've pursued over the last 24 hours.

But no, I'm acting entirely independently on my own, not part of some sort of concerted set of affections. Okay, I want to get your reaction to a couple of big moments over the past few days. Firstly, want to check if you still stand by this tweet, Tim, because Matt Goodwin is a big part of the Reform UK movement, beloved by a lot of reform supporters. Now, you say here there really is something sulfurous about Matt Goodwin and sendery views, suspect opinion polls, massive self-obsession. British public life would be so much better without him.

I do stand by that, I'm afraid, Dan. I used to work with Matt in the past. We sort of crossed over at the Legatum Institute. But yeah, I've challenged him publicly about some of the opinion polling he's produced. And I stand by those remarks. And I know my concerns about him are shared by some in the reform leadership as well. So but that's for them to speak about. I've gone public with my concern. And I regret it. Matt and I were quite close for a period. But one of the things I really do like about Nigel Farage is he is not everyone's cup of tea, but fundamentally he's a patriot. And I think Nigel Farage will always do the right thing for the country. So the 2019 election, when he could have won seats for reform, he chose to put the national interest first, getting Brexit over the line before any consideration of his personal advance. Let's just say, Dan, I don't particularly want to go on and on about Matt Goodwin,

but I'm not entirely convinced some of the people in the reform movement have quite that same commitment to the national interest before personal interest. Okay, then there's also this conversation between David Aronovich and Alex Phillips, which I wanted to show you. So David said, knowing Monty, as I think I do, his sojourn and reform won't last long. The Faragists will soon be expulsing mass deportations and Tim is a committed Christian. Alex Phillips responded, arguably Christians palpably feel the existential challenge faced as a result of sweeping cultural and demographic change far more than secularists could ever understand. Secularists, sorry. Secularists could ever understand. Secularists, sorry. Secularists could ever understand. What's your response?

Well, look, I think ultimately, if you came here illegally and you've gone through the processes of applying for asylum or whatever for a settled status and you're rejected, I think you should be open for being deported. I think if you don't come from a safe country, that's a different question. But I have no in principle objection to deportation, Dan. So David Aronovich is a friend. We clash a lot on politics. But if anyone is closer to understanding under to understanding my views it's certainly Alex rather than David. Then there's this moment where Nigel Farage stormed out of an interview

with Sly News this week it's over this MSM obsession regarding James McMurdoch the Reform UK MP who was convicted of a violent crime against his then-girlfriend 20 years ago, which he has fully apologised for and spoken about being the biggest regret of his life. This is what happened when Sly pushed Farage on it. It involves being honest, though. Are you not concerned that he lied about what he did?

Did he? He wasn't vetted. He wasn't v wasn't better James Mc Murdoch was one of those many candidates who wasn't vetted at all with the party look I didn't know any of this when I took back over as leader so you said you're going to play put in place the most vigorous vetting system in place now do you think James Murdoch would not go through this new you can have. You can have your fun at Sky News. We've got 100,000 members. I've got a million followers on TikTok. Dame Andrea Jenkins has just joined us.

She's our candidate for Greater Lincolnshire. You've had your fun. I'm off for lunch. Thank you. Now, I love that, Tim, but how did you feel? Yeah, Nigel. When Nigel's had enough of an interviewer he certainly makes it clear

look, we've just been talking about Christian values in the previous question you put to me I don't know Jim Murdoch at all if he walked into this room now, I wouldn't recognise him. I think people who've made mistakes in the past

deserve forgiveness. If they fess up to them and they move on, they certainly deserve a second chance in life. If, though, something as horrible as kicking a woman on the floor is true, that is a level of offence that does cause me to, certainly to pause. And I think violence towards a woman of that kind,

and you haven't really come to terms with it, that is a big deal for me. But as I say, I don't know James Murdoch at all and I don't know whether I don't know his side of the story so it's not something I would want to judge him on too closely. Well, Sly News is on one

in regards to this because they have also challenged Richard Tice who has very strong feelings about this having had a detailed conversation with James McMurdoch. But let's have a watch at this clash with Sophie Ridge. He was 19, and I know that Nigel Farage has come out to say that the vetting wasn't what it should be, right?

But, you know, if you're here, you're saying you want to be taken seriously as a political party, then this is the kind of thing that matters, right? Because court documents obtained by The Times have recently shown he was jailed for kicking his girlfriend around four times, according to those court documents. Actually, that I don't think is an accurate representation of what the documents do say, point number one.

Point number two, we are a great Christian nation. Are you seriously saying that if someone makes a bad mistake in life, age 19, that there's no redemption, they are doomed as a sinner forever? No. The whole point of Christianity is a sense of, if you've done something wrong, you pay your price, and at the end of that sentence, whatever it is, then, in a sense, you've done your bit, you've served your punishment, whatever it is, and good luck.

And isn't it actually the opposite is true? Isn't it remarkable that an individual had a bad issue at a very young age but has gone full circle? And doesn't it show, actually, to other young people, look, bad stuff can happen, you can make bad judgements, you can get things badly wrong, but many years later... I am going to.....actually, you can do really well, you had a great job, and end up as a Member of Parliament.

I think that's a good thing. OK, I absolutely understand the point you're making about redemption, right? People shouldn't be written off for life. But his statement before the Times piece said, we argued and I pushed her. She fell over and she was hurt. The court documents, seen by The Times, said that he kicked her. I mean, you can talk about redemption,

but surely part of redemption is acknowledging what you did, being upfront about what you did, and only then can you, you know, move on and be truly sorry, right? I mean, it sounds like there is a pretty major discrepancy. You can have a dispute about what actually happened. The bottom line is... So what has James McMurdoch told you that happened? Look, my understanding is different to what the Times have reported. So what is your understanding?

It actually doesn't matter. I wasn't there. It doesn't matter. I'll tell you why it doesn't, because it comes back. The law is the law. The law ruled that he had transgressed. And he was punished. He served his punishment. But if you're asking people to vote for you, people have the right to know what you've done in the past, what you've been jailed for.

So what you're really saying is... The issue that I have with this is that James McMurdoch is a backbench Reform UK MP. We have not seen any of this obsession from the mainstream media about the fact that Keir Starmer appointed to his cabinet a woman who he knew was convicted of fraud, a woman who, in my opinion, and she can feel free to come and sue me if she wants, but I've looked at all of the evidence, clearly lied about this missing mobile phone to the police, to her employers, to the party. And there isn't any form of hectoring of Labour MPs and certainly not the Prime Minister about that. Whereas it feels like any indiscretion will be used to beat the Reform UK party.

Now, of course, that's not to excuse what James McMurdoch did, but it was 20 years ago. Well, look, Dan, I'm going to let you into a big secret now. No one else is with us, are they? We can just talk privately. No, no one's here. The mainstream media don't like reform.

And you know what? The consequence, we can complain that that's unfair, and it is unfair, but I'm afraid what's going to happen, and this is going to happen over the next few years, as well as the next few weeks and months, is the mainstream media are going to hit

reform candidates harder than they will do for Labour and Conservatives. It's unfair, but what reform needs to do, and I'm now part of this organisation and I will do my bit in any way to help, is vetting of candidates needs to improve radically. And in that interview clip you saw, you just showed with Nigel Farage, he realizes that. And it must be the case. If James McMurdoch, I was mispronouncing his name a few minutes ago, which apologies, but did he declare to reform that this issue had been in existence in the past? What the reform needs, because this scrutiny is going to come at it, fairly

or unfairly, I think we've both agreed unfairly, their candidates really do have to be whiter than white. And the Reform Party needs to know if there are any issues that Sky News or anyone else can get hold of in the future, they need to be upfront about them, because this has been the way the mainstream media have always attacked sort of centre-right parties. Rather than address the policy, because they know the British people are largely with us on the policy issues like immigration, they've tried to attack us personally and in ways

like this. And I'm afraid on this occasion there is at least some justification for that attack. And I'm afraid we need to raise our game because they aren't going to change. So we just need to be prepared for the attacks. See, that's where I have a slightly different view, Tim, because I actually think don't play their games at all. I would like to see Nigel go full Trumpian, understand that the establishment, including the mainstream media, are going to do everything possible to destroy you. So you've got to try and destroy them. But I guess I'm in a different place in terms of that

compared to where reform is at at the moment. Well, I certainly think we fight fire with fire. You know, we attack them. We attack the hypocrisy of people in the mainstream media. I'm not saying we just sort of lie down and take whatever they throw at us, but I think we need to be wise. I know, but the problem is what that means,

what that means is you're going to lose great people, Tim, and there are great people who I know were part of the reform movement and you were going to lose them because they posted something on X a few years ago about attending a Tommy Robinson rally or maybe made an inartful joke.

And those people are my viewers, a lot of them. They are the people who Richard Tice dismissed as that lot. And I don't actually think Richard meant it and I think he probably regrets it. But that's all I'm saying. I just think, let's not immediately dismiss a whole load of people from this very important movement. I don't think we're as far apart as perhaps you should have suggested there, because I didn't say that when people are fessed up to things in their past that might be awkward,

write them off. I didn't say that. I just said it's important that the reform leadership knows so that they can deal with it and make a judgment. I think the British people are forgiven. And if James McMurdo, and just to note, we don't know the full truth of it, so I'm trying to be careful what I say, but if there was this incident in his past and he says to people, does an interview and says,

you know, what did George W. Bush famously said once? When I was young and irresponsible, I was young and irresponsible. Yeah. Well, I've asked James on. I've asked James on. I personally think he should speak about it. He should address it and then move on. I think that would be a really good thing for him to do.

The British people are forgiving, but it's when an issue is sort of held back, it's secret, then people sort of go, well, is it more serious than even we've been told? And so, you know, get it out into the open now, but if you're going to stand for reform as if you're going to stand for a centre-right party, you need to tell the leadership of the party what potentially snares there are, and then the leadership can say, yeah, this guy made a mistake. This person made a mistake, but they're still on side. And, you know, I still want them as a candidate.

Well, Tim, look, you are a wise head. Reform UK are very lucky to have you. And goodness me, it's going to be an interesting few years. And I look forward to having you back on. Congratulations on all you're doing with your show, Dan. You had your own reverse, you know, a couple of years ago now, isn't it? And you've come back and it's...

Yeah, I guess that's why I really feel for people like James what he's going through. I know what it's like when there is a campaign of destruction. And it's usually the mainstream media that are driving that campaign of destruction for their own reasons. And I actually think, I'm not just talking about myself, there's a whole load of great people in the independent media. But I think the independent media will be very, very critical for Reform UK over the next few years, as we saw in the US, the independent media being very critical for the election of Donald Trump,

because people will get the truth from the independent media in a way they just won't from the mainstream media now. Yeah, I completely agree with that. Tim Montgomery, so great to have you. Congratulations. And now, The Outsider. Breaking right now,

Kemi Badenoch attempted to make Sipri Starmer squirm by challenging the Prime Minister on his decision to appoint someone he knew to be a convicted fraudster, the now-departed Transport Secretary Louise Haig, to his first Cabinet, even though the public had no idea of her shady past at PMQs today. But Mr Speaker, the question today is what has been on the lips of all Labour MPs, including I believe the Health Secretary yesterday.

The Prime Minister knowingly appointed a convicted fraudster to be his Transport Secretary. What was he thinking? Mr Speaker, the previous Transport Secretary was right when further information came forward to resign. What a marked contrast to behaviour in the last 14 years. Now, he clearly didn't want to answer that, but Kemi kept pushing. He can try and change the topic as much as he likes, but the public are watching.

He owes them an explanation. The country needs conviction politicians, not politicians with convictions. Now, on to an even bigger fraud. gwleidyddion, nid gwleidyddion gyda chyfartal. Yn ymlaen i ffrod fwyaf, y cyllideb. Ystod y wythnos, fe wnaeth y Prif Weinidog ddiffygu'r cyflogwyrion y Prif Weinidog o ddim mwy o ddiddordeb a dim mwy o arian. Mae'n amlwg ei fod yn dod yn ôl am mwy. Yn ei gyflawniad, fe wnaeth y Prif Weinidog ymrwymiad i wneud Cymru'n economi'r cynyddu cyflym mwyaf yn y G7. A yw'n ei ddychmygu gan ei pleidleisydd ei hun?

Lord Cymru Rwy'n ymwneud â'i, Brif Weinidog, yn ymwybodol bod dau o'i cynulleidfaoedd wedi cael cyflawniadau for breaking the Covid rules. I'd also invite her to look at the OECD report of this morning, which has upgraded growth for next year and the year after, which now puts us on target to be the highest-growing major economy in Europe in the next two years. She should welcome that. Now, Starmer has come under fire there for misleading the House.

With Stephen Barrett, star barrister, posting on X, the Prime Minister has just misled the House. He has falsely claimed that two former PMs have convictions for breaching COVID regulations. That is false. As the PM, a criminal barrister, knows paying a fixed penalty notice is not a conviction. He must create the record. And Boris Johnson, it's fair to say, is very furious about that.

However, the big problem with today is that it was actually Starmer who made Kemi squirm the most over the Conservative Party's appalling record on immigration. Watch. Mark contrast to behaviour in the last 14 years. And she talks about immigration, record levels of immigration under the previous government, nearly a million.

And she was the cheerleader. She was the one urging on the removal of the caps for work visas. She was thanking the previous Home Secretary for the work that was done. She championed it. She advocated it. Record numbers of immigration. As Stephen Edgington posted on X, Starmer spent the whole of PMQs attacking Kemi

over her open borders stance while she deliberately tried to change the subject embarrassing performance from badenock truly terrible and a simple response from nigel farage today was a car crash from kemi badenock father calvin robinson joins me now and father Calvin, isn't this the issue? Isn't the issue? Kemi can have a great moment, like I thought she had a great moment with pre-prepared lines in terms of Louise Haig. And can I just say, it is astonishing to me that the corrupt mainstream media doesn't believe it's a big deal that Starmer put a convicted fraudster into his first cabinet. And we're all just meant to not

ask any questions about that, even though there's an obsession about what happens with backbench reform UK MPs. But put that to one side, the problem is she has no answer to the appalling damage that the Conservative Party did to our country with their open borders policy. This is going to be Kimmy's problem, Dan, in that she is very good at speaking. Her rhetoric is fantastic. At the dispatch box, she puts on a good show. Great.

However, her background, her history is going to come back to bite her. She has been very pro-immigration over the years. She's been very pro a lot of things that I think conservatives are going to find out is quite upsetting to them. It's not necessarily because that's where she stands on these things she's always been pragmatic so whenever she's been in government she's supported the government and that's mean that's

meant she's made some judgment calls that I don't think are going to help her in the long run unfortunately I told her this at the time not this last campaign but the campaign before when she was running for leadership of the party I said you've got to look at these issues that are not conservative and say whether you're actually going to stand with these or not and she said i won't buckle to purists i think that's that's a stance to take not the stance that would take but it's a stance she took and so there will be more instances of this of things that come up the immigration ones are the biggest problematic one because of course it's the biggest issue in the country. And mass immigration, both legal and illegal, is at all time record highs and most people want it down.

So when the leader of the opposition is one of the people that's been pumping the numbers up over the last few years, how is that going to help? I know. And she said it's too high and that she'll bring it down. But it's going to take so much for us to trust her party again. And I believe the only way she could even think about doing it, Calvin, is with hard and fast targets, a promise of mass deportations. Actually, the Conservatives need to outflank Reform UK on the right because Nigel Farage clearly is a true believer in this issue. That was a basic question.

I think you're right. The Conservatives need to outflank reform. Absolutely. It's the only hope they've got, I think, Father Carter. It is. What they've been doing for the last few years is they've been trying to outflank Labour. Like, we're not the racists. We're not the xenophobes.

We're not bigots. Like, we're not, you know, what they should have been saying is, yes, immigration is too high, and they should have addressed immigration while they were in power. But because they didn't, people aren't going to believe them in what they say now. But you're right, they need to come round the right of reform and say, look, if we get into power, we'll have mass deportations. Farage says it's practically impossible, we'll show you how it's possible. That's what they need to do. There is some buyer's remorse going on in the Conservative Party. Sophie Cacoran, a good Conservative commentator

who backed Kemi Badenoch, wrote today, it feels like the Conservative Party is hiding a little bit. Most of right-wing commentators on TV or in papers have gone to reform. They aren't dominating the media or social media. There are few personalities that attract voters. It's all gone quiet.

But then Kevin Edgar, who was a big advocate for Robert Jenrick, replied, that's why we needed Robert Jenrick as leader. You wanted Kemi. You got her, but are now complaining of people going to reform and it all going quiet. Many of us said this would happen if Rob wasn't elected. Regrets? And the problem is father carl and i think this was the death knell for the conservative party i think they had one chance to get this right and kemi badenock's business as

usual approach hiring all of the stooges who work for Michael Gove. Michael Gove, remember, establishment figure, now the editor of The Spectator, in the last couple of weeks said that he wanted Kamala Harris to win the US election. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know? Michael Gove is a big liberal. And this is his party. The Conservative Party is his party. He is one of the shadowy puppeteers behind the scenes unfortunately he's pulling the strings robert jenner was not going to get in but it doesn't really matter because he wouldn't have made that much of a difference anyway the conservative party is doomed i am surprised to see monty jump ship that was an interesting

interview you just did uh with tim montgomery that was that was nice to see and of course andrea jenkins last week if more high profile people keep jumping over to reform, perhaps reform will have a chance. Maybe I'll be eating my hats. Because your concern about reform, Calvin, can you just lay it out for me? You think they have pushed too much to the centre and that Nigel Farage is wrong to immediately rule out Tommy Robinson supporters,

not talk about the threat of Islam. Reform is doing exactly what the Conservatives have been doing for the last 10 years, right? They're trying to say, we are not nasty. We are the nice guys. Honest. Trust us. Stop playing nice. Like you were saying to Monty, just be Trumpian. Be bold. Be forthright. Have a set of principles and stand by them I honestly think that's what the British people want and when they hear people be backtracking it looks snaky so when we see an interview with Nigel Farage and Steve Edgington and Steve or Winston Marshall and they ask Farage about immigration and for both these big interviews Farage is like well yeah

immigration is of course an issue but we can't deport everyone, we can't do mass deportations and then he goes on to say we have to learn to live with Islamic brothers because the country will be mostly Islamic by 20 it's like no, what we want from someone on the right to say this isn't English, England

is a Christian country, always has been, always will be he can say that he wants to have some diversity cultural diversity if he wants but he should say that it's predominantly white predominantly christian predominantly english and these are bad things and most people will be like yeah actually thank you he should say we need to mass deport everyone that's a foreign criminal should be sent home. Everyone that's here that hates our country, that supports terrorist organizations should be sent somewhere else. Deport people that do not like us

and do not like our way of life. That's what we need, someone who could say that. He isn't that guy yet because he's trying to play nice. He wants the media to like him. He wants the rest of Westminster to like him. They're never going to like him. They hate him. So he should embrace the hate and run with it what do you think about elon musk potentially donating 100 million dollars to reform

uk after he met nigel farage at mar-a-lago that could change the game so i know firsthand that farage has been begging cap in hand for a number of years now he's he's uh tried it on with a few he needs money he does need money and politics takes money not UK politics doesn't take as much money as the US and so he I don't think he'd need a hundred million but with a with a couple million he could make a big difference so you could get reform out there into the mainstream uh conversations a bit more so he could start to change the. I don't know if Elon Musk is that interested. But then again, he does see that the Labour Party keep attacking him left, right and centre. So perhaps he is. I think he might be. I think he might be because if you look at the

Western world, Calvin, you could say, OK, let's hope America is going to be saved. There are some incredible cabinet picks. Sure, Trump hasn't completely got his own way, but it's looking very positive. And where else do people look to in the West? Well, the first place they look to, especially when you cast your eye to Europe, is the United Kingdom. This country is in deep, deep trouble. There are elections coming much sooner in Europe. There's the chance that Marine Le Pen, for example, could end up being president of France. That country in deep, deep political trouble. Even today, Michel Barnier is said to be the shortest prime minister in French history. But it's the UK, isn't it? That's the one you've got to change.

And I think he knows that there is such a good chance that in four years, the establishment parties will have to be smashed. So I don't think for a single second that Elon Musk is an expert on British politics. I remember he was once asked in Cannes what his opinions were on Keir Starmer, and he didn't know. But I think he's a man who's super smart and has educated himself and saw what happened after the Southport massacre and the cover-up that followed, saw these poor people like Julie Sweeney and Lucy Connolly being sent to prison for a post on X, saw the fact that the police were even investigating journalists like Alison Pearson.

So I don't know. I hope that he cares enough. But I guess the problem is he's got a huge role in the Trump administration and that's going to be taking up loads of his time. Yeah, I mean, Keir Starmer is one of the most boring politicians we've ever seen. So it's no surprise that a foreigner like Elon Musk wouldn't know who he was until Labour got into power and started putting all these authoritarian, even tyrannous policies into play. And people all around the world are seeing that free speech is being clamped down upon, freedom of worship, expression freedom of association they're all being clamped down upon so people are looking at the uk thinking what is this north korea is this communist china like what's going on over there so yeah the alarm

bells have been ringing however people are looking to elon to solve a lot of problems right so he brought out twitter which is now x the platform of free speech. He's going to help the US government with Doge to kind of bring in some efficiency and shed some of the waste essentially to drain the swamp. People are saying he should buy MSNBC because they are going bankrupt and it's a mainstream media outlet that he could potentially

turn around and put someone like Alex Jones in or put you in there, Dan. But he can't solve every problem. Yes, he is the only billionaire that is in favour of freedoms. First of all, he's not a conservative. He's an old-fashioned liberal. But we can't look to him to solve everything, including this United Kingdom. Farage did actually appear on the British Bashing Corporation and was asked about the possibility of that Elon Musk donation.

Let's have a listen to what he said. Highly theoretical. This is something written by the Sunday Times, the source of which is goodness knows what. It is pure speculation. Right, so it was news to you, was it, when you read that? Complete news to me. I've heard nothing of the kind like this.

Certainly it leads us into a big debate about the funding of political parties and how we should do things. But I want to make it clear, whilst money, even a fraction of that money, would make a massive difference to our operations as a party, it's purely theoretical. I appreciate this is a hypothetical, but would you accept it? Well, would I accept money, given that we're up against two big parties who are very heavily funded, and we scrape by mostly on our burgeoning membership fees? Yes, of course, I'd accept money. But you know, money is not everything. I mean, Joe Pike talked earlier. I think that's a fair enough response. Calvin, he needs money. There's nothing wrong with taking money. Elon Musk can funnel the money through X, which is a British business.

Well, it might not be a British business, but it's based in Britain. Right. Well, I think it's based in Ireland, but there are still certainly ways that he could contribute if he wanted to. But the question is, what would Nigel Farage do with that money?

So at the moment, reform operates like a pyramid scheme. So people, supporters pay money in. They don't get a membership yet. There's no democratic rights. They have no vote on policies or leadership, but they pay money into the party. That money all goes up the chain,

essentially to run the party and to pay Farage and people within the party whatever dividends they take from it, being a limited company. And so with that massive increase of cash, they could turn things around and actually from it being a limited company and so with that with that massive increase of cash they could turn things around and actually develop it into a party with real members that people that get a say they could spend money on advertisements they could get actual constituencies set up with people on the ground one of the major differences of this u.s

election was that turning point helped for example with grassroots with people on the ground. One of the major differences of this US election was that Turning Point helped, for example, with grassroots, with people on the ground knocking on doors, getting out the vote, all of the stuff that reform doesn't have yet. The Conservative Party has a lot of volunteers. The Labour Party has a lot of unions. And so reform could plug that gap with a few million from Elon Musk.

Calvin, do stand by, because in just one minute, I want to talk to you about this terrifying new trend of armed police at Christmas markets up and down the country and the police not being honest with the British public about why they are there. Christianity and the Christmas season under a clear Islamist threat. But first, you know how I often talk about the need for free speech to be protected, but I've been increasingly thinking of the need for personal protection online from snoopers, bad actors and hackers, and I've found a failfe solution. But what's more, this VPN is also life-changing when it comes to providing you entertainment and information from anywhere in the world. So let me introduce you to Surfshark. This is an incredible and easy way to use a service that encrypts your internet traffic. Basically what that means, let me explain it to

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But unfortunately, these sorts of dystopian scenes are now being seen across the country, with an obvious fear of an Islamist attack ahead of our most important season as a Christian country. And we love Christmas. Now, Surrey police specifically have faced a massive backlash over this. They posted on X, whilst you're out and about at events across Surrey in the festive period, you may see some armed police presence. We appreciate that this can be an alarming sight, which is why we wanted to take the time to reassure you that these are part of routine foot patrols to deter serious criminality and not in response to any particular threat.

Our officers are more than happy to speak to you and out and about if you have any worries or concerns and our main objective is to keep the communities of Surrey safe. But you can imagine the response to that sort of post and it has prompted the Surrey police to have some sort of online meltdown posting another message on X saying, Our well-meaning post has unfortunately been used as an opportunity to be purposefully divisive and inflammatory. This has a direct impact on demand into our contact centre and can prevent those who need to access our services via our digital channels from doing so in a timely way. And Father Calvin Robinson, I am furious. I am absolutely furious with the Surrey Police. When are our law enforcement going to learn that we're not

concerned about divisive and inflammatory language, as they put it, the sort of language that saw three different police forces investigating Alison Pearson. What we want is to be safe. And we need to know why there are now armed patrols at Christmas markets up and down the country, Calvin, because before there was an Islamist terrorist threat to this country, that did not happen. Absolutely. The police's job is to serve and protect the community, not to lie to people. If there is a threat, people deserve to know what the threat is. Don't say this is part of a routine foot patrol. There's never been a case in this country where routine foot patrols carry guns, assault rifles.

That's never been the case in the United Kingdom. Our police, generally speaking, don't carry guns unless it's extreme circumstances or certain protection duties. And so for them to be walking around Christmas markets with assault rifles sends a clear message that there's a serious threat. And when the social media post is, well, it's just a foot patrol, people don't speculate. But then, of course, what do they do as a response? They gaslight. It's the gaslighting I'm sick and tired of.

Oh, you guys are the problem. You're making this incendiary and divisive. No, if you told us what the truth is, people wouldn't have to speculate and people wouldn't worry. And actually, what people are worried about is you guys covering up a serious threat to their life. Because they're scared, Calvin, of divisive and inflammatory language. That's what they're more worried about, offending Muslim people.

Well, we're not talking about Muslim people. We're talking about extreme Islamists. But unfortunately, we know they exist. And also, this is not a fantasy, Calvin. I mean, look back to Berlin in December 2016. I do not think this is spoken about enough. That attack on the Christmas market was utterly appalling. 12 people were left dead. There were more than 70 victims when a truck deliberately crashed through. Even last year, Calvin, an EU official warned that there was a huge risk of terrorist attacks at Christmas markets across the EU.

So surely we have a right to at least be told that there is that heightened threat. Yeah, I mean, it's obvious the reason they're covering this up is because if we realise the truth, we would all be angry. And the truth is that we didn't need armed police at Christmas markets before mass immigration. What has changed? Oh, we have a load of people in our country that dislike our way of life, dislike our faith, dislike our values, and want to attack us for it. That is the truth of the matter. And that's what they're trying to hide, because if they realize that most people understand the truth, there will be massive divide in this country. And they're trying to prevent that at all costs.

They're not trying to prevent crime. They're not trying to look out for people they're trying to prevent what this this country is going to come to which is going to be loggerheads essentially and you're absolutely right in that people should be able to go in a christian country to a christian market but at christmas time in peace without fear without worrying without looking over the shoulder for hostile entities from a different land with a different faith. And that's where we are in this country at the moment, well, the United Kingdom at the moment, in that people no longer feel safe just going to a simple Christmas market.

It's disgusting. What do the police do about it? They get upset with the people for being upset. How terrible tweets, how terrible posts. And by the way, yeah, well, I wouldn't argue, Calvin, given the evidence from the past few years, I wouldn't actually argue that it is inflammatory or divisive in any way to point out the very clear threat of Islamist terrorism. Surely it's been honest and it's been responsible. I mean, the honest truth is that Islam is incompatible with Christianity.

When you have a country that is explicitly Christian, we have a state religion, state church, the judiciary, the parliamentarians, everything is Christian by the law of the land. And then you invite a faith and then it's contradictory to that faith, you're going to get conflict. It's going to come out in some way, shape shape or form and then when you can't have open conversation about these differences because to question or criticize islam in any way is islamophobic then it will come out in other ways and that will probably be in violence and so you've got people who are angry on both sides because the conversation hasn't been allowed to have its censorship of the

worst kind which is why we see the muhammadans attacking christians and christians being fearful of the muhammadans do you feel like christianity in the uk is under attack christianity has been under attack in the uk for a long time there's this weird kind of liberal snobby attitude about christianity in that it's old-fashioned now right it's beyond us we've evolved past that but of course to christians there's no such thing because you can't evolve past the truth and if you believe in christian faith then you believe that that is the truth right and so for people to suddenly start to say well we don't need it anymore it's kind of like saying well we don't need you anymore and that's that can be hurtful that's divisive so there are many christians who have gone quiet in the united kingdom and as

a result of that it's not seen as a christian country anymore because it's not publicly it's not boldly proclaimed anymore and so the liberals have pushed the christians underground and then the muhammadans have come in with mass immigration and kind of pushing halal here pushing sharia there pushing the adan there you know preying on their rugs in the middle of the roads here like left right and center we're seeing islamification of britain it feels like it's becoming a caliphate because the liberals have pushed christianity out so yeah christians in the united kingdom are oppressed and that oppression will turn to persecution over time father calvin i don't know if you saw it but i want to play you

with the most underwhelming christmas lights turn on in history watch what went on at downing Can you please join me when I say five, four, three, two, one. Yay! It worked! Nervous moment there, but it's all good. Oh, Kelvin, what did you make of it? Oh, awkward. Who is he talking to? to that's like it's the voice of a bored father isn't it to a toddler five four way like there's no real character to him is there there's no enthusiasm there there's nothing there's no energy it's just drained dull boring it's i don't know what we are what i expected from sakia starmer as prime minister

but this is probably it to be honest with you yeah i mean i felt calvin that video sort of summed up the mood of the country this languid lack of enthusiasm and and a sense of decline your advertisement that you just had in the break had far more energy than Keir Starmer turning on the Christmas lights for the nation. Come on. Oh, Father Calvin Robinson, absolutely great to have you,

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