Dan Wootton Outspoken - NIGEL FARAGE MELTDOWN & REFORM UK CRISIS AFTER RUPERT LOWE'S RESTORE BRITAIN SHOCK U-TURN

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

BREAKING RIGHT NOW: The civil war on the right of British politics has just exploded as Restore Britain’s surge sees them officially enter YouGov polling for the first time. That’s prompted the Alan Partridge of Reform UK Matt Goodwin to issue a shock new attack on Rupert Lowe’s party, slamming them as a “bunch of unknown amateurs” But the Restore leader has hit back in a new interview, also responding to critics who have tried to suggest the party is going down a blatantly racist path. Meanwhile, the Reform candidate crisis has deepened, prompting the launch of a new election slogan: Vote Reform, get Starmer out. But the problem is that desperate party bosses are now even calling Guardian journalists asking them to stand before tomorrow’s deadline. Meanwhile, Slippery Starmer has fled the country again, just as cries of "Allahu Akbar" are shouted outside of Downing Street and the Islamist attack on the native population continues at pace. Dan argues only revolution can save us now from the damage being inflicted on the UK in his Digest. Then the Superstar Panel are: Father Calvin Robinson, Advance UK’s Sarah White, co-writer of the October 7 play Ann McElhinney and, making his Outspoken debut, Dan Grant who is behind the brilliant independent YouTube UK news channel British Stand. PLUS: The BBC caught up in a new sex scandal with staff demanding action over Chris Moyles’ harassment of Charlotte Church following the sacking of Scott Mills. AND: John Cleese challenges Prince William on his position on Islam as the religious crisis engulfing the British Royal Family deepens. THEN IN THE UNCANCELLED AFTERSHOW: The truth about King Charles’ dire cancer battle has been revealed by his biographer Robert Jobson. We’ll analyse what this means for the future of the monarchy with royal YouTube sensation P-Dina. Sign up to watch live or on demand and totally ad free at https://www.outspoken.live LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos every day: https://youtube.com/@danwoottonoutspoken?si=-2BhmEbBSN1fyESS?sub_confirmation=1 ---------- Find the full audio show wherever you get your podcasts: Apple — https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dan-wootton-outspoken/id1762436723 Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/19Ltoneek2MSPL10CpSA1J?si=8f6d84e2db56448c ---------- Follow Dan on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outspokendan Follow Dan on Twitter: https://x.com/danwootton Follow Dan on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danwootton/ Follow Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danwootton/?hl=en #DanWootton#DanWoottonOutspoken#news#outspoken#uknews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Novias, No Sensiap. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 464 coming to you live, of course, from London. And I know if you're watching from Florida or somewhere like that, you're not going to understand this. But seriously, it is sunny today for the first time in like six months. So in a very happy mood, because it really does feel like summer is finally on the way. But breaking right now, the top civil war on the right of British politics has just exploded. as Restore Britain's surge sees them officially entering UGov polling for the first time. That has prompted the Allen Partridge of Reform UK, Matt Goodwin, to issue a shock new attack on Rupert Lowe's party, slamming them as a bunch of unknown amateurs. Think I'd rather that than Tory careerist politician traitors.

But the Restore leader has hit back in a new interview, also responding to critics who have tried to suggest the party is going down a blatantly racist path. I'm not really interested in safe routes. I'm interested in protecting our borders and ensuring that those people who come here come here because they want to be here and they want to contribute. They respect our history and our culture. And actually they agree with the way in which we live our lives.

And if they don't, don't bother to come. Stay where you are. Meanwhile, the reformed UK candidate crisis has deepened, prompting the launch of a new election slogan, Vote Reform, Get Stama out. But the problem is that desperate party bosses are now even calling journalists from the hard left Guardian newspaper

asking them to stand for the party before tomorrow's deadline. We've told you today, the Reform UK is still looking for candidates in your local area. With your support, we can make these local elections at referendum on staff.

I'm sure everyone has a chance to vote for a reform UK candidate. Have you been cold calling people that are asking? No, cold calling would be very, very fruitless, wouldn't it? Have we called paid up members of the party to see if they want to get engaged? Yes, but of course, every party does that. Oh, and of course, Slippery Summer has just fled the country again, just as cries of Alu Akbar,

shouted outside of Downing Street, as the Islamist attack on our native population continues at pace. Fuck off, take him away. Stop it now. Now. Put vodka on her face. What? and I kick your dog calling fuck of 10 times.

Yes, the Islamists really do hate our dogs. So why only revolution can save us now from the damage being inflicted on the UK? That's in my digest next. Then what a superstar panel we have today. Father Calvin Robinson, co-host of Reclaim the Media's Fox and Father, Advance UK's Sarah White, co-writer of the October 7th play, Anne McElhenney, making his outspoken debut. Dan Grant, there he is, behind the brilliant independent UK News Channel British Stand.

Great to have you today, Dan. Also coming up today, Reform UK's new Soho candidate James Bembridge speaks out ahead of the local elections in his first interview. The BBC caught up in a new sex scandal with staff demanding action over Chris Moyle's harassment of Charlotte Church when she was just 15 years old, following the sacking of Scott Mills, and John Cleese has challenged Prince William on his position on Islam, as the religion crisis engulfing the British royal family deepens. Then we're going to move across to Substack for the Royal Uncanceled After Show, and today we are really going to go there on the truth about King Charles's dire cancer battle, as it's been revealed by his biographer Robert Jobson. We'll analyse what this means for the future of the monarchy with Royal YouTube Sensation Pete Diner.

you can sign up to watch at www.outspoken.com. Now, my superstar panel are nominating for Greatest Britain and Union Jackass too, Anne will reveal the best Britain in the world at the end of today's show. But going head to head to be named the worst are Wes Streety, nominated by Father Calvin Robinson for saying the Wireless Festival is putting money before morals by booking Yee, when he himself has put power before morals. Prince William, nominated by Sarah White,

for following in his father's footsteps, believing that Islam is a religion of peace. And Matt Goodwin, nominated by Dan Grant, for attacking voices on his own side while conveniently forgetting that reform itself was once built by so-called unknown amateurs. It's pure hypocrisy dressed up as strategy. So three very interesting choices for you today.

A hard leftist cabinet Islamist. a member of the British royal family who we usually like, right, and the Alan Partridge of Reform UK. So get voting, keep your comments coming in during this show, but now let's go. There are now two major bashels being waged in British politics and the bigger war to save our disunited kingdom from a coming Islamist takeover. First, we've got next month's elections where the two-party hegemony will be forever damned to hell as Reform UK and the Green Party surge.

But I think the real change will come at the next general election where the entry of Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain, which is very wisely, in my opinion, not standing candidates outside of Great Yarmouth next month, is completely reshaping the right in a way Nigel Farage propagandists simply cannot cope with. The most significant illustration of that came with this morning's release of the Uber establishment UGov voting intention poll for Sly News and The Times, which sees Restore at 4% after just two weeks as a registered party matching the early rise of reform. Now, Rupert Lowe himself knows what a significant moment this is

because Restore wasn't actually prompted during the UGov polling. That means people had to specifically tell the pollster that they were voting for Lowe. As Mike Jones explained, for context, UKIP, originally the Anti-Federalist League, took roughly a decade to reach around 4% in national polling. Restore Britain has been operating as a political party for barely 50 days. And Basil the Great explained that one thing to remember from this poll is that Restore Britain are still not prompted. You have to select other and then are given the choice. So he says this is not a fair representation of our support and demands that UGov promptly starts prompting

Restore Britain. But Rupert still celebrated the moment, writing Restore Britain's debut 4% with Hugh Covers without Restore even being fairly prompted. Our name isn't even mentioned on the list. They can't suppress our support forever. We became an officially registered party just over two weeks ago. This has never happened before. Hundreds of branches already set up on 127,000 members. History in the making. It is clear that there is significant support out there for Restore Britain. Other polling companies must now do the fair thing and include us. The media blackout must now to end. Our plan is straightforward, decimate the failed establishment parties in Great Yarmouth and May, and then take it national. Prove it can be done. Prove we can win. Do that and we can win the next election.

Now, I have to say, I think this has been a very good week for Restore Britain, with low winning over many of those who thought the party were going a little bit too far down, what was just described as an ethno nationalist route during a new interview with Bodeid of the Lotus Eaters. ...migrants and they're economic migrants who aren't going to contribute economically. And they're coming here illegally. That's the most important thing. If you want to come and live here, apply to come and live here legally and justify coming here. And then when you get here, contribute and integrate. If you're not going to do that, then don't come.

So, I mean, I'm not really interested in safe routes. I'm interested in protecting our borders and ensuring that those people who come here come here because they want to be here and they want to contribute. They respect our history and our culture. And actually they agree with the way in which we live our lives. And if they don't, don't bother to come. Stay where you are. Okay. Now, Basin Buzi Her has previously supported Advance UK responded to that by writing the Sivnapp position from Rupert Loke, potentially win my support.

Thank you for clearing up your position. So of course, this surge to restore Britain has prompted total panic and meltdown at Reform HQ. With the increasingly awful Alan Partridge Tribute Act Matt Goodwin, moaning on X today, a new political party that a bunch of unknown amateurs think will save Britain is standing just 10 people in Great Yarmouth, while the actual party that will save Britain, that just beat Labor in Manchester that won the local elections last year, and as number one in the national polls is standing 5,000 people across the country. That's the difference. Never forget that going viral online is not the same thing as building a serious political machine. Britain is in last chance saloon. We don't

have time for inexperienced amateurs. We need political power. That's the only way that we save this country. Voting reform on May the 7th is the only way we save this country. But I'm going to be honest with Mr. Goodwin. I do have time for inexperienced amateurs, as he puts it. Ordinary people, right? That's what's required. The political class destroyed this country. And the fact that Reform UK is now stacked with careerist formatories actually puts me off. I don't view it as a positive thing. And I also find his attitude increasingly arrogant. Lewis Brackpool of Restore Britain responded, it wasn't long ago that you directly asked unknown amateurs

to help you put together a team to help get you elected. One moment you're praising the unknown amateurs behind closed doors. Next minute, you're counter-signalling them online. I would rein it in for your own sake. And so if you could Corrin added, I don't like this labelling other parties have just been inexperienced amateurs when 90% of your candidates will be inexperienced damages. except for the defectors and people like you who were parachuted into places you didn't belong.

And Henry Bolton, I think he's always a sage analyst, wrote, Matt, Restore Britain has only just been registered. And as you know, many Reform members have already joined. Restore will be judged on its own merits, its leadership, its policy, its local focus in how it performs next year and beyond, not on your ranting against it. Lately, Reform, and you, risk coming across as the narcissistic, nasty party. Inward looking and attacking anyone who doesn't fall in line or who questions the credibility and inconsistency of your policies. My advice, not that you asked for it, is to focus on your own party, not on dictating to attacking and trying to police other parties. Britain needs solutions, not your form of authoritarianism. Matt, finally, democracy is about choice.

And people are rapidly coming to realize that reform doesn't want choice. It wants to be the only the option. That's why you spend so much more time and effort attacking others on the right and centre right than you do criticising this appalling government. Now, of course, the sort of snobbery and bullying that is now coming from Goodwin is just backfiring on him. It puts even more people off because we are going to vote for who we think will be prepared to make the tough decisions to save this country. Not what you demand us to do, Matt, I'm afraid. Indeed, Lowe pointed out the difference perfectly between restore and reform on that very point, watch. I think all of us can see quite how bad it's gone wrong.

And look, I mean, we're a different party. I don't plead for people's votes. I say we are here. If you agree that Britain needs to be restored, then vote for us. We are not like politicians who are craving power. We are an option which people can vote for if they agree with us that things need radical change. And if we attain power, there will be radical change. And the change basically will be that we will put the British people at the top of the agenda.

And we will protect their interests in every possible way we can. How different is that approach from Rupert compared to Matt Goodwood? You've got to go with us. You've got to go with us or you're screwed. And there is no doubt Reform UK is currently in crisis, by the way, prompting the launch of a new election slogan today, vote reform, get Stama out. Which sounds good, of course, but is sadly not true. What is true is that the launch of Restore Britain has caused a candidate crisis for Farage's party. So earlier this week, I revealed the audio of a prominent social media influence.

being cold called by reform, begging him to stand before tomorrow's deadline to submit candidates. We've told you today, the Reform UK is still looking for candidates in your local area. With your support, we can make these local elections a referendum on fire and ensure everyone has a chance to vote for a Reform UK candidate. If you are willing to stand for us, please send us the send us to send us an email to the candidate at reformpathy.uk within the next 24 hours. We have one chance at this.

And with your help, we really can turn this country around. Please consider standing and we wish you the best. And now it's emerged that Reform UK even called wait for it. A hard left journalist for the Guardian newspaper asking them to stand. The newspaper reported prospective paper candidates are told they would not need to do anything, apart from provide their name and address. They are then asked if they are bankrupt and if they have any. criminal convictions before being offered a candidate application pack. Now Farage has denied there is a

crisis, but he has admitted that the cold calling is taking place. Is that true, have you been cold calling people? Are you struggling to get enough candidates? Or can you promise that you will have a full slate of candidates across the West Midlands? I can promise you right now there'll be a full slate of candidates across the West Midlands. End of. What I can also tell you is that the other party, I mean, the Labor Party, have actually been advertising online for candidates in the northeast of England. Have you been cold calling people, though? No, cold calling would be very, very fruitless, wouldn't it?

Have we called paid up members of the party to see if they want to get engaged? Yes, but of course, every party does that. Restore Britain, meanwhile, is now openly challenging reforms candidate choices. Like this dude, Toriola Corker, who has announced he is standing for the party in Southampton. But Restore Britain's spokesman Charlie Downs pointed out, this man is a Nigerian national. As a Commonwealth citizen, reform would ban him from voting in British elections, rightly so.

But they will allow him to stand. What's going on here? They can't be this desperate for candidates. Charlie brought up the issue in his reply to Matt Goodwin, who inferred that he was an amateur, saying, if we really were irrelevant, you'd just ignore us. we're building the biggest anti-establishment movement modern Britain has ever seen. Meanwhile, your party is standing foreign national candidates.

The same foreign nationals or reform government would apparently ban from voting in British elections. If this is what saving Britain looks like, God help us. And the reason why voters are increasingly turning on the weak source reform UK approach is because of the depths of despair that we are in. with Alu Akbar being shouted outside of Downing Street last night. I am sick of this. Are you sick of this? As reforms Darren Grimes put it, forget, Kanye West,

when the Iranian flag flies outside of No. 10 Downing Street in the hands of Islamist supporters, our issues clearly are running far deeper than an unhinged rapper. That is certainly true. I mean, the tensions on the streets between natives and Islamists are now at boiling point. Look at this. No, why you pull my scarf and you said this is Islam?

Why you did that? And while Metropolitan police is protecting you. I was trying to help you to find a way. I was helping her. Shut up! I am leaving her alone. I'm not saying anything. This is Islam? Give her a space. She's an old lady.

Leave her alone. Have some respect, you bloody savage. Okay. If she's an old lady, she has right to pull my scarf and say that? Police! Wow! And she's an old lady. She's an old lady and she pulled my scarf and she's saying,

this is one. Tell me this is Islam. Can this flair? Can this scarf revising? It's racism. If someone wear Palestine. I'm sick of it. And as these Islamists try and ban dogs from the UK, Unite the Kingdom activist Tommy Robinson has exposed shocking new footage writing, invader attacks a young woman with her child and dog on a train in the UK, telling her heel pour vodka on her dog on her door.

daughter's face and kick the dog to death. This should be instant arrest and deport. Watch. I don't care. Okay, we've asked you to let's sit. I don't care, camera, I don't care. I will kick the dog, I call him fuck off. Take him away.

Stop it now. Now. Put vodka on her face. What? Yeah, and I kick your dog calling him fuck off ten times. Okay, I've just texted the British transport please. I don't care. The camera, I don't care.

Look at that gorgeous little. dog. But they weren't all dogs. Gone. Then we get to Scotland when Georgina Libby has reported that schoolgirls are being given rape alarms. In Scottish town, amid fears have been stalked by hotel migrants. She reports that the hotel migrants have been spotted hanging around the school and ogling at children during break times. Some of the girls have stopped going into the town as they feel so unsafe. But as Georgina puts that the alarms will not stop them, deporting will get these dangerous savages out. And today, in a sign of how he's going harder on these issues, Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe has made this pledge. If a public official has knowingly and deliberately

placed dangerous, unvetted third world migrants near a school, a restored Britain government would put them in prison. That policy will apply retrospectively. Council officials, this is your warning. So Scotland, you have a choice. You have a real choice because don't say you were not warned. In this election, the Islamo-Trans Green Party are pushy nutters like Kate Nevins,

who Samantha Smith explained as predicted to win before exposing this video of Kate saying she wants to abolish prisons and the entire prison system. Yep, all prisons, all of them. Samantha says do not let this woman into power. Watch. So I would want to see the complete abolition of the prison system in Scotland. Prisons are not safe, they're violent,

they're really poor for people's health and well-being, particularly if you're a woman, and they fail to support rehabilitation. So actually they don't make those of us who are not breaking the law safe for either. So people are rehabilitated, they do reaffected. So we would definitely, that's an ultimate goal for the Greens, is to not have the prison system as it is right now. In the meantime, we would massively want to reduce the number of people we are sending to prison. Look, the biggest vulnerability for the socialism,

Sirging left-wing party, and we have to keep talking about this, is that the leader, Zach Dave, that's his real name, Polanski, the tip whisperer, once promised he could increase a woman's boobs through hypnotism. And he's starting to get annoyed about it. I'm noticing that, and I'm liking that. So last night, Labour MP, Joanna Baxter, wrote on X, Zach may think hypnosis can work miracles, but mesmerizing the markets is not an economic plan. Now, Zach responded, Labor dredging up a 2013 sun article as if that's what matters. We're living through a moment

where the PM is complicit in genocide back in the US president threatening destruction of civilization. Every attack like this just exposes how hollow labor politics is. Now, the fact you're a lying Nasser Polanski is significant, actually. The fact that you used to make money through lying about the fact that your hypnotism could increase eight women's bust size by four inches does matter. The polling shows that matter.

actually, when people hear about that sick little stump from you, Polansky, they don't want to vote Greens anymore. So we've got to keep talking about it. And indeed, Labour should keep talking about it as well. Now, you saw there that the Iran War is, of course, providing another fault line in British politics, but also on the right, too. With Reform UK backing Trump, while Westbourne Britain has taken a Britain-first approach. Leila Kahnem struggled to justify Farage's position during a car crash news night appearance last night. It's not being disagree.

They were a danger to us. What danger were they to us? Well, they kept saying death to the West. They sent terrorists to our country. Who? Four terrorist attacks were stopped. They are a hostile state. And, you know, we never said boots on the ground,

but Allies means that you're there. Dame Andrea Jenkins, to be fair to her, didn't rule boots. UK boots on the ground out and you're smiling because what? I didn't hear what she said. I know that Nigel said that we all, you know, he was very clear we should have used the base, we should have let them use the basis, which we did eventually, without ruining the special relationship. But at the end of the day, you know, we must protect British interests. And I think that's what the British Republic want.

They want a government that has Britain's interests at heart. Do you think Kirstama is showing that he's got Britain's interests at heart through this crisis? I think, you know, I don't think it's helpful to alienate our closest ally. You know, we don't have the energy capability, the military capability to do that. It doesn't make us stronger to A&A the US. Labor's male columnist, Dan Hodges, wrote after that, Reform stance on the war has been utterly incoherent and politically suicidal.

This was their last chance for Nigel Farage to decouple from Trump, and he blew it. Stama will save him in the local elections, but in the long run, it will cost him. Yet today, MSM shields like Robert Pester, are actually going through the motions of pretending Slippri Stama is playing any role in the Middle East crisis whatsoever.

Just hours after President Trump and Iran announced a two-week ceasefire, the British Prime Minister Kirstama is on his way to the Gulf, to meet leaders, to see what he can do, to translate what is a temporary cessation of hostilities into something more permanent. His big project in recent days with the Foreign Secretary of Eck Cooper is to put together 40 like-minded nations all with an interest in trying to reopen the Strait of Hormuz to allow oil, gas and other cargo to flow through and to ease the tremendous shock on the global economy.

That cessation of very important traffic has caused. So a lot riding on this visit by the British Prime Minister to the Gulf. I'll be with him and reporting for the next couple of days. No, there's not Piston. there's nothing riding on it because we have a cosplain prime minister who has lost all power, who has lost all relevance,

who has now controlled by the extremists within his own party. And that's why I believe the battle on the right of British politics is so important because only revolution can save us now. Here's the superstar panel. Advance UK's Sarah White. Dan Grant of the British Stand channel, Anne McElhenny behind the October the 7th play and Father Calvin Robinson all with me. So Father Calvin, look, I think actually the comment that really stuck with me was Charlie Downs saying to Matt Goodwin, if Restore was irrelevant, you'd just not

talk about us. You'd just shut up about us. Clearly, they are very relevant to find themselves in this UGov poll for the first time, even though UGov doesn't list them as an option. Yeah, Matt Goodwin has been on damage control against Restore for some time now, and it seems him and Charlie are going head to head on a lot of these topics. It would be nice to see them in a sit-down debate together, actually, because I tend to back Charlie, but I'd like to see them competing on these policies. Well, I would love to host it, Calvin, but can I just say something very quickly? Because this tells you a lot about Goodwin, right?

So during the Gorton and Denton by-election, I offered to transfer. to Manchester and give him a full episode of Outspoken. He turned it down. Over the weekend, he sent me a message boasting about his book entering the Amazon charts. And I was like very happy for him. I replied, that's great, Matt. Why don't you come on the show? Why don't you talk to the people? And he completely ignored that message, Father Calvin. Guess what? This week on X, he's been begging and pleading with the fake news agents, Emily Maitliss and John's. Soapal to go on their show when he could be here. So he's actually gutless.

He doesn't want to face anyone on the right. But he's begging to be seen by the people on the left. Who is reform going after? Who is their target audience here? Who are their voters? That is weird to hear. And that's probably why they're so upset with Restore, because Restore have gained ground on the right.

Reform thought they owned the right. They thought it was theirs. They took it for granted. And they have been chasing the centrists for a while. seems they're going further than that to chasing the left now. They truly do want to get into power more than they want to make a difference. I want to vote for a right-wing party. I want to vote for a party that's going to make a difference in my country, making a better place, restore my country to its greatness. I don't want to vote for another party that just wants to be in the positions of influence of

power for the sake of it. What's the point of that? Dan Grant of British Stand. Welcome to Outspoken. Great to have you here. You have actually nominated Matt Goodwin as your union jackass today. so I presume you're not impressed with his approach to this. Yeah, listen, at the end of the day, they shouldn't really be coming out. I mean, he spoke about them saying that's an irrelevant party. But at the end of the day, why is he going out there and actually tweeting about it? It's just creating conflict for no reason whatsoever. I genuinely don't understand why he's creating conflict.

And I've never really pinned my sort of colors to Amar, so to speak. you know, I support all the parties on the right and I report on them quite a lot on my channel. But yeah, this is not a good look for reform personally. I really, I don't like the fact they're getting obsessive about other parties as you just continue on their own sort of thing. And yeah, if they really do think they're irrelevant, then don't speak about them. I completely agree with you because that's the approach that I take here and outspoken to Dan. It's like, I love all of these parties. I think they're all important.

I think they all have a voice. But the problem is, Reform UK are only going to speak to you if you're a total propagandist. So, you know, they love a June Slater. They love a Stephen Barrett. They love an Alex Armstrong because they only want people who are not going to ask them any tough questions. And actually, because they keep tacking to the left, there are tough questions to be asked. Now, Sarah White, great to have you back. This must be difficult for you in some ways.

because, of course, for a long time, Advance UK was this surging force on the right, challenging Reform UK. But since Restore Britain has launched, people seem to be talking about Restore as the alternative option, not advance anymore. So where do you stand on all of this? Well, you know my feelings, Dan. You know that I'm incredibly loyal to advance. They haven't changed or backtracked on any of their policies. So for me to jump or go anywhere and look at another party, I'd be being disloyal. So I stand by my loyalties with advance.

And I think that Ben is a good leader. I think that he will do very well. But I think when it comes to Matt Goodwin and reform, they ought to remember that their party was built on what he says, unknown and inexperienced amateurs. That's why they got to where they are, because it was a party that was, you know, for the people, led by the people. It was people from grassroots.

And that is what was the flaw in politics for many years, that we've had politicians who don't represent the working class at all. And finally, we see a party that promised to do great things. And slowly but surely, he's welcoming in more and more people from conservatives and labor. and it just seems as if he is bending more towards the left, which is not what this country needs. Yeah, I mean, Anne McEleney, it's so interesting to me to see Matt Goodwin really lean into, I think, the real Matt Goodwin.

So he's sort of cosplay during the election campaign. Oh, I'm a man of the people. But actually, he's an academic, isn't he? Because he's now dismissing anyone connected to restore Britain as an unknown amateur. And I really do lean towards Anne, this feeling that the political class have led us down so terribly in this country. Like, I want all of the political class gone. Seriously, I just want them gone.

And Matt Goodwin seems to be saying, oh, no, we need to have academics and former politicians and ex-Tory traitors. And that's not where I'm at, Anne. It's really not. No, no. And I'm sure. And your listeners are not in that place either. I mean, you know, Britain had this incredible opportunity with Boris Johnson. He swept the boards.

He owned everything. He owned the whole of Britain. It was all great. He got all kinds of people to get behind him. Talk the big talk and turned out to be beyond useless, dangerously awful. And so when you have this Rupert, I just love Rupert. I just think he's basically, you've got your Trump now. And he won't apologize.

You know, he's not apologizing. And I love the way, I love the way he's framing things. You know, if you want, you know, we're not out there. You come to us, basically. And it's so sad, by the way, that so few people are representing the majority of people in Britain whose voices have been silenced, whose voices, who, you know, who elected, by the way, as I said, who gave Boris Johnson this amazing mandate that he then just, you know, just threw away. So I'm all about the amateurs.

I mean, obviously we have the best amateur of our own here. in the United States with Trump. And people love it. People are, people adore it, you know. Who had never, ever been part of the political system. And that was the beauty. Yeah, and the political system, exactly. And the political system has this thing of,

oh, there's a whole way of doing things. It's all very correct, you know. And Trump threw all that out. I mean, I remember one of his rallies was so funny. He said, you know, if I win, I'm going to have to, I'll never drive my Rose Royce again. And, you know, people would think, oh, you can't say that. The audience of ordinary people loved it,

because they understand honesty. They love honesty. They love somebody to me, all unapologetic. And this is what they're getting with Rupert, and this is what they love about him. And I just, I'm so disappointed, by the way. I'm really disappointed by Nigel Farage and the whole, even though I've had many a pleasant evening drinking with Nigel Farage.

I have to say, yeah, and what a lovely personality he has and all of that. But for some reason, I don't know what happens to people, but cowardice is really, I'm really over it. I'm so over it. I'm so tired of it. And I love Rupert Lowe. He just, he is not afraid. He just says, he says stuff that resonates with people.

And I wish, you know, I'll be very interested to see what happens. But this idea that we need a professional class of politicians, it's the very last thing we want, talking heads who talk absolute nonsense. And so the clarity with which Rupert Lowe speaks, people are like, yeah, yeah, I like this guy. I like this guy. Totally.

Well, look, you know, here and outspoken, I want to get all sides of this argument, and that's why I've been constantly asking for Matt Goodwin to come on. So now we are going to here, and the superstar panel will get a chance to go head to head with Reform UK in the Uncanceled Interview. So despite the so-called candidate crisis hitting Reform UK ahead of next month's elections, there are a whole load of fascinating new names who are now becoming faces of the party. And this week, one of them came in the form of James Benbridge, a long-time Nigel Farage drinking buddy who Lois Perry announced as the wonderful, talented, extraordinary, and deliciously gay man.

That is Benbridge, also deputy editor of country, Magazine, who is now Reform UK's candidate for Westminster Council covering, wait for it, Soho. And James Bembridge joins us now for his first interview since that candidate selection alongside our superstar panel, Father Calvin Robinson, Dan Grant, Sarah White and Anne McElhenney. So James Bembridge, congratulations. Is it true that there is some type of crisis? within Reform UK?

Were they like just begging and pleading for you to run? Or did you actually have to go through a competitive process? I had to go through a process, but there were some people within the party who did think I was the perfect candidate for Soho. You know, I've written about Sovo. God knows how many times. Well, if I were to stand as an independent,

you know, I don't think I would have won. You've got to be known in places like that, and I'm only known in the bad places, you know. Well, it is interesting, James, because at the moment, there has been a lot of polling and talk suggesting that Reform UK has become the party of gay men. And the argument is, and I don't know if you sign up to this, but the argument is that gay men as a group of people

are particularly aware of the threat that an Islamist Britain poses. Is that part of the reason? why you moved to reform? I was born, right, I was born right, so no, I was never one of these reformed lefties, not still. And also, people were saying about inexperienced damages. If you like inexperienced damages, I'm your man, you know.

Matt Goodwin says he doesn't want that. Well, I've had no dealings with Matt Goodwin. And, you know, I don't care about some of the people in the party. Me, me, me is a refrain of my life. concentrated on the West End and specifically so have you been told that there are things that you can't say quite a few things I had said yes what didn't they like well I can't remember the specifics Dan but the vetting team are kind of separate from the actual reform party and I did hear quite a bit of feedback oh you can't say this you can't say that then I've got to justify myself

by saying but this is a joke it's quite clearly a joke you can't seriously think that I don't know what the jokes might have been. I believe that I find genocide funny or something. I mean, of course, genocide is funny, but it was a joke. Anyway, eventually I did pass that. You might end up being the shortest serving Reform UK candidate yet. Well, I'd still be a counsellor either way. But no, I do. I do. Okay, so now that I've selected you, you're in, basically. Yes. And what are your chances of victory? in Soho. I mean, not regarded as a particularly right-wing place. The West End Ward has three councillors currently, two of whom are Tory, one Labour.

Now, I think most Tory voters are moving to reform, and would someone vote Labor again? I think maybe they would actually vote for, what do you call him, the tit whisperer? Zach Polanski. Okay, well, look, I'm going to bring in the superstar panel, because I always think it's great to have a dialogue on these types of things. So Father Calvin Robinson, let me come to you first. You can obviously ask James, whatever you'd like, Father Calvin. But it is interesting, isn't it, the fact that reform seems to be coming a very gay party?

Oh, Father Calvin, sorry, Father Calvin, we've just lost you. I've obviously got, I can't comment on that specifically, but I've got nothing against James. James and I have known each other for a long time. But I did laugh. I did chuckle to myself when it came out and it said, the candidate for some, Soho is the very gay, deliciously gay, James Benbred. I'm like, come on, this is just woke 101, isn't it? This is the virtue signalling.

We're going to stand in Leicester. Let's find a Pakistani in Mohammedan. We're going to stand in Soho, let's get a gay in there. It's like, come on. I thought we'd be past this kind of politics. But that picture there, James, James, that picture right there. Do up your tie. You're tuck in your shirt.

I know, I know. It was, I need to be fair, I had drunk quite a lot. Well, you know, that's the Soho look, the luched bohemian look. Okay. But I guess Father Calvin's very. real point, though, is that has reform UK, James, just become the party now of identity politics? There is a lot of identity politics going on. Oh, we want a trans candidate. We want a disabled candidate. We want a Pakistani Muslim candidate. And now for Soho, we need a gay candidate. And we're

going to push the fact that you're gay. Actually, James, I mean, you know, with me, you know, I don't think sexuality is a big part of who you are. And maybe it will turn some people off the fact that it's like, oh, here you are deliciously gay, James. Well, actually does that really matter? Well, look, you know, if they want to say that for me to get the gay vote in Soho, so weird. I just want power, really. No morals of whatsoever. But no, I do sure you're going to fit in perfectly in Reform UK, actually. I take it all back.

I am joking. Please, if anyone from Reform is watching this, this is again a joke. The fear they're having their candidates, though. The fear. Just say anything out loud. Oh, no, they're going to cancel me because this is what they do, isn't it? They cancelled their candidates. I've not been so aware of this kind of identity politics that you're saying is creeping up in reform, though.

Okay. Okay. Sarah, you were a member of Reform UK. You defected to advance, so you may have an interesting perspective on this. Yeah, I just think that as a country, we're trying to step away from DEI and reform are playing into it, because what has being gay got to do with you getting the position that you've got? Saying as a deliciously gay man, being gay, your definitive is because you have a different sexual preference. It's not the reason to get the role.

Well done on getting your role, and I hope that you're the best candidate for that position. Well, to be fair, I don't think me being homosexual had anything to do with me getting the candidacy. Then why is it labelled like that then? Why is it said... If I'm a candidate, I wasn't put up as, you know, this straight female getting a candidacy. It really wasn't that serious... Now you're being one of these...

Now you're being one of these serious scorns. It really wasn't that serious of a post, was it? Do we think it was? Well, why do it then? Oh, she was just having a bit of a laugh. No, but this is the thing. It's like we'll have a gay man in Soho, just like Calvin's just said, we'll have a Pakistani man here, we'll have a trans here,

we'll have someone who's disabled here. Everybody has to get, they want to step away from DEI. We want this country to go back to some sort of normality and actually people get their positions on how well they are doing and that they deserve that position. And I hope that you deserve that position. If you deserve that position, if you deserve that position, then it's fine.

Well, look, for the past six years, I've been a lushe bohemian writer writing about Soho. I do think I have authority on this matter. It's nothing to do with the fact that I'm gay and she was just making lighthearted, joky comment. Okay. Dan Grant, what do you want to ask, James? Look, listen, at the end of the day, I think I take Sarah's point there about DEI, I absolutely hate DEI.

But what I would say is if a reform's remit, is to win, then you're going to do everything possible to try and win, right? And whilst identity politics is something we're trying to move away from, if it's going to get them through the door, they're going to use that advantage to best suit them. So if you're talking about a gay man running in Soho, I don't think it's just based on him being gay. I don't think that was the official post from Reform, was it?

It was a friend of yours who said that? That's right. Yeah. Right, yeah. So, I mean, that was somebody's opinion and she wrote that up about him. But, yeah, I think as he just mentioned that, you know, he's wrote about Soho. He knows Soho quite well. So in terms of a Canada, he probably is better suited. And if you know the, I suppose, the history of Soho and the people that sort of occupy now. Jeffrey Bernard, Francis Bacon, Lucien Freud. Say again?

Jeffrey Bernard, Francis Bacon, Lucien Freud, all the old Soho sets. What about the trans thing, James? I imagine you're going to get quite a lot of pushback on that in Soho. Well, I've got absolutely nothing against traditional drank queens. In fact, I love their caustic, vicious sense of humour, and I go towards them in the Soho area. Now, what you're getting at is the kind of people that take the Niki when it comes to trans rights and go in women's spaces and all that kind of.

Yeah, I'm completely against. that and if and if i get pushback for that then so be it i'm not going to change my values and what about the super mosque that is meant to be being built in soho are you going to campaign on stopping that construction i would absolutely lobby to do anything within what power i'm afforded to stop that out it's completely um it's it's just not it's not suitable in that area whatsoever for quite obvious reasons. What, the fact they hate the gays. I give a more political question while we've got gays.

Sorry, not prostitutes. Gays strippers and alcohol for that very reason, obviously. You're going to have to get the high restriction. Sorry, Father Calvin. No, sorry. There used to be a height restriction in Westminster. It's one of the reasons Westminster's one of the nicest parts of the country, aesthetically, because we had these beautiful buildings,

and the Labour Party got into power. They did away with that, and so now people can build these ugly high rises of glass and steel, would you push to restore the height restrictions? Yeah, oh, absolutely, especially in areas, because the West End Ward covers, you know, Chelsea, places like Chelsea, historically Georgian lovely areas. Yes, I would absolutely lobby and push to block any planning permissions that would ruin the harmony of that scenery, yeah.

Okay. And McEleney? Well, I just have a very simple question. I mean, I suppose two questions. Why reform and not restore? And the second question is, why are you even doing this? Why is this important to you? It was important to me, especially Soho,

because I grew up in an incredibly searingly dull part of Derbyshire. It was where people from London came to die. And, you know, Soho was where the life is, and I wanted to live. And I was inspired by writers, as I said, such as Jeffrey Bernard, who wrote the low-life column in The Spectator from Soho. And of course now in Soho, the low life comes at a high price. Have you seen the cost of drinks?

If I could do anything about that, believe you, me, I would. Okay. And what about why not restore? Oh, why not restore? I do respect Rupert Lowe and much of what he has to say. The people surrounding him, the young ones, I don't know, there's something a bit, a bad smell emanating from them for my life. What do you mean?

And also, I don't know, just like. like, yeah, ethno-nationalists, you know, that kind of vibe, which I'm not. But are you accusing Restore of being an ethno-nationalist partner? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, people surrounding Restore. So, they're just Britons for Britain, that's a good thing, surely. No, I disagree. I disagree. Look, it's just some kind of... What's Britain for, then, if not for Britons?

I know well the arguments you make do the English not have a right to their homeland yes yes they do and I agree with all of that I just don't like sound like an ethno nut James you've not trapped me I hope I'm not trying to trap you I'm just a basic premise of a nation without a people there's no such thing as a nation and the English people want to defend their nation I think that's a very good thing so this is a bad smell and it smells of ethno nuts as if that's a bad thing. That's harmful to our nation. Well, okay, okay. So your solution would be to... My solution would be England for the English.

Yeah, well, there's people from... There's people here who aren't from England, so what to do? Mass deportation, repatriation. Even... Again, this conversation has been had countless times on shows like this. Sure, which people could have different opinions on it, but to say it's a bad smell, it's like a bad thing. To me, to me it is. For the English, defend England. I just find that problematic. I don't know.

It's just kind of sinister. And also, also, one more thing. Why not restore? Well, if they don't stand a chance, obviously. Is that the only reason you've gone to reform them? Because you, like me, with advance, I've sticking by them because I am loyal to that party and I believe in that party, whether they win or not, that's who I've invested in. and if you are only invested in reform

because you think they're going to win, then that's the fundamental flaw with reform. Do you want to respond to that, James? I'd respond, first of all, by saying, obviously I want to win. Why would I not? And as you said, reforms are the gay party. I mean, how camp is Farage?

I mean, you go to their rallies. You've got sparklers, smoke everywhere, rap music. No, reform is the party for me. Dan, sorry, were you trying to come in? Yeah, no, I just wanted to make a point to Calvin quickly. It was, do you know, if you want, obviously, I take you a Restore Britain supporter, right? And you were saying about sort of ethno-nationalism, English for the English and stuff like that.

But if Restore started coming out with that sort of rhetoric, I've seen Rupert Lo's post today saying that his remit is to win, do you think that would actually garner enough support in the United Kingdom? him to win a general election if he started using that kind of rhetoric in like official policy and stuff? So there are two parts of that. Firstly, I'm a member of UKIP. I'm not a member of, I'm not a supporter of Restore, although I do support them as in I think they're doing good work. I'd love for UKIP to work with them. But to your main point, do would they win? That's not my concern. My concern is actually people who have integrity, people who are genuine, people who are

sincere, who say what they believe. And I think that would genuinely win people around. What I don't want is more politicians like Matt Goodwin who say what they think people need to hear. That's what I think to be the problem with our politics actually done. That question, the very premise of your question is the problem with our politics. Okay, fine. Okay, fascinating conversation. James Benbridge, thank you so much. We will keep across your Reform UK campaign in Soho. In Soho. Good luck. Breaking today, BBC staff say there is another major sex scan. haunting the corporation, and they want Chris Moyles to be dealt with as well, following the sacking of Scott Mills after the revelation that he had been investigated by police

over alleged sexual abuse against a boy under 16 years of age. Of course, we have to point out the CPS did not press charges, and Scott Mills has said that he wants to move on, even though he hasn't publicly denied the allegations. Yet there is now a clip circulating amongst BBC radio staff of Chris Moyles being interviewed by the singer Charlotte Church. Now Charlotte Church is now a leftist, a hard leftist, and she recently gave an interview to the Guardian newspaper

where she said that she became fair gay when Chris Moyles offered to take her virginity at 16 years of old, of age. But this video which is circulating certainly does make you think that if the BBC is going to really decide that Scott Mills should be cancelled as a result of something that went on decades ago, perhaps they're also going to need to look at the behaviour of Chris Moyles to. So before I show you what was said during this interview, I will just give you a little bit of context to point out that when the comments were first made, Charlotte Church was 15 years old.

Chris Moyles was 27. This is from March 2007. By this time, Charlotte Church was obviously much older. Watch. Once you were young. How young? You were under 16. Yes.

And then... I call that 15. Yeah, 15. But then you were going to be 16. Uh-huh. And I offered to take your virginity. What exactly... What exactly did you say?

Do you know, um... I actually... I think this is actually very sweet. I offered to lead Charlotte through the forest of her own sexuality. A 15-year-old girl? No, no, no, you were 16. I was 16. I wasn't.

You were. I was 15. So it seems now undeniable. that the BBC has a long track record with celebrating underage sex, especially on its radio station Radio 1. For analysis, on this, my superstar panel, Anne McElheny, Sarah White, Dan Grant, and Father Calvin Robinson. So, Father Calvin, look, you know, I'm not a big fan of offence archaeology,

but the reason I have decided to broadcast that clip is because, it is widely being circulated amongst staff at the BBC who think there is a greater reckoning that needs to be had after the sacking of Scott Mills, that it doesn't end at Scott Mills. And certainly what was said by Charlotte Church to Chris Moyles directly suggests at the very least there is a serious standards investigation, an HR investigation that needs to go on about what was said as to whether it's anything criminal, that would be another discussion. I've been in the face of the defund the BBC campaign for nearly a decade now, but I started that because I don't think we should be paying for propaganda.

I don't think we should be paying for the state-arm broadcaster to be shoving liberal progressivism down our throats every day, and we should be forced to pay that. under threat of prosecution. But it's become even more of a problem because it's no longer just liberal progressive woke values being shoved down our throats every day. It's no longer just the fact that we're forced to pay this tax over threat of imprisonment.

It's now increasingly pedophilic institution. You know, Jimmy Saville cover up, Hugh Edwards. We can go on all day now. Every single week, this is to be a new person. Scott Mills comes out. And then there's this issue here with Moyles. I remember these guys from the days when he, to listen to the BBC, and they were even back then crass,

but just to look at that clip that you played, people are laughing when a grown man is talking about taking the virginity of a 15-year-old girl. We should all be hissing and booing. We should have been cancelled back then. Like we cancel people for saying the wrong thing these days. If anyone should be canceled for anything, it's for paedophilia, for goodness sake.

The fact that these people get away with it, the BBC as an institution continues to cover these pedophiles tracks shows that the institution itself is corrupt and needs to be done and dealt with. I mean, Anne McElheny, how did you feel watching that? Because, of course, I do appreciate that as a society, things change significantly over the course of two decades. What may have been socially acceptable at one time

is not socially acceptable now. But the point is, what he was suggesting was illegal and was grooming. I mean, that is how it would be viewed by nature of the law. Now you can also say, was it a joke and was it appropriate? But how did you feel watching that? I wish we could just be consistent. I wish there was some kind of consistency here and all of this pearl clutching. And by the way, I like Calvin's comment there. The audience thought it was hysterical. And this was her own show. This was Charlotte Church's show, right? And I think

there's a whole thing here where there was Miley Cyrus, you know, she was this kind of very, young person and then there was, you know, Robert Patterson and the same thing. And they kind of quite quickly wanted to become adults. And I think Charlotte Church, I think, emancipated herself at the age of 16. I think went and lived away from her, from her family. I wish there was some kind of consistency. I mean, you know, where everyone saw, you know, the guy made a joke. It's inappropriate or whatever. I don't think it's, I don't think, and no matter what do you think, it's certainly not criminal. I wish there was more attention on what they're teaching young people in schools and that they think that they think is appropriate. And I think the other point

that's interesting here is, why are we having young people, you know, working as children? Why are children? Like, so Charlotte Church was working. Robert Patterson, Miley Cyrus, you wouldn't allow them to work in the mines. They couldn't, they can't go down and work. Why don't they work in the mines? Why? You know, we need people to work in minds, you know, but it's okay for them to, it's okay for them to do, to, to be out there in the, in the, in the, in the, in a very adult world. Go on. Sorry, Kelvin. Just to say, it's only a joke when she says no.

If she said yes, I don't think it would have been a joke. That's the problem they have with it. Yeah, and look, why I understand the fact that it's going viral, right, is because you just think about what Scott Mills was accused of. He was accused of being a Radio 1 DJ and at around 24 years of age, attempting to, or having a sexual relationship with someone who was under 16. That's what he was accused of.

And you have Chris Moyles, who was a DJ at the same time, 27 years old, joking about having sex with an under 16 year old. There are clear parallels between the two stories. Yeah, no, I see that. I can see the parallels. I definitely can see the parallels. But I also hear what you were saying, that it was a joke. It was a joke.

Maybe an inappropriate joke, but it was a joke. It's interesting. I think the reaction of the audience is very interesting on her own show. Yeah. That they weren't outraged. So I have never seen her show. Who knows what the tenor of the show was. But it's interesting that if the show was kind of, let's say the show was a religious show, they were talking about prayer. I think the audience might have reacted differently. So I don't know what the context was. And I do think context actually does sort of matter. I don't think it's a crime that he said it. Obviously, if he did it, that would be something very different. Yeah, I mean, Sarah White, how do you feel about this?

I think she definitely looked very upset about it on her own show, but as Anne says, I think probably the reaction from the audience wasn't what she was expecting. Probably not. No, I don't suppose she was expecting that. I suppose she was expecting a lot more support from her own audience as well, and a shockability. And this is the problem. No one seems to be shocked by anything like this now, days and the BBC are at fault all the time. And when are they going to be held accountable?

Because it doesn't seem to matter what comes out about the BBC and who represents the BBC. No one is ever really held accountable. You know, why are they even still a company? Why is the BBC still allowed to broadcast? Because we only have to look at what they've done with Jimmy Saville when the cover up there was just catastrophic. People were. had their lives ruined and they're still being able to operate. And I think that in itself just speaks volumes. So I'm not surprised that they don't really do anything. No one's really ever held accountable.

And it's as if it's just allowed to carry on. And at what point is this going to stop? Yeah, I mean, Dan Grant, you, I mean, I presume you're a younger guy. You were probably part of this growing up with Chris Moyle, Scott Mills type generation, Radio One Generation. Is it just humor and we should get over it? We should move on? Honestly, I have never seen that clip before.

I don't really know too much. I don't keep up with like the BBC. I've never really watched it. So maybe just miss my generation a little bit or just me as an individual. But yeah, I mean, just watching that clip there. I mean, it didn't seem like a joke, weirdly enough. And I don't know the full context of the story. so I better should have done more research on it.

But yeah, from the video, I mean, it looked like the guy was being real. And as you see, as you say, you look at the BBC's track record. They haven't got a great history of, you know, these unscrupulous characters, these nonsors that they've harbored on their, under their corporation for a very long time. And it wouldn't surprise me if he was that way inclined, I suppose. Well, yeah, and there was Billy Piper. Do you remember that with Chris Evans and Billy, Piper, I think she was very, very young when they entered a relationship. So there's definitely

a track record. You should speak to our mutual friends Lawrence Fox about that. He knows lots of behind the scenes background on that one. But I can, objectively say that Chris Evans groomed Billy Piper, absolutely. And there should be more investigations than to him about that. Well, because I'm just, I'm just trying to remember how old she was at the time. I think 17 or 18 when they first met in the year 2000 and then and then she was 18 when they married in last Vegas in May 2001 Evans was 35 at the time I mean I can I the father of my children is considerably older than me it's not a it was but a lot of the times a lot of women would go out with someone because the the male has say a position of authority or earns

a considerable amount of money, has got a, is an influential person. That wasn't the case for me. I met my partner, the father of my children. We're still very good friends and I was in love with him. A lot of younger girls do look up to older men. They want that sort of older man, someone who's a bit more mature. They're not. You don't know the circumstances. But in that industry, there are a lot of young girls that end up with a lot of older men. And are they being groomed or is it, I mean, my daughter now is coming up for 20. Would I feel comfortable with her going out with someone who was that much older, the same age gap that I had with her father?

Well, look, there's an age gap and then there's the legal age limit, right? We have to set boundaries for a purpose and that they are legal boundaries, but they're also moral boundaries. And when we're talking about Charlotte Church being 15, she's illegal and that's immoral as well. That is the massive thing there. It's the age, isn't it, that she? was 15 and that's what we need to remember. She was 15 and you can't even say, well, she looked older because she was in the public

eye so everybody knew how old she was. Yeah, and he was making a thing of the fact that she was 15. So I think that is, I think that is the point. And look, what we can probably all agree on is that Chris Moyles is definitely not the worst offender amongst the beat of the BBC. But given the people who were operating at the BBC, including Jimmy Saville, at that time, what it shows you is that that sort of humour, that sort of discussion was considered socially acceptable. And clearly, it was not socially acceptable even in 2001 because it was illegal.

And I'm not saying Chris Moore's did anything. He made a joke. But I wanted to share it because I think the fact that it is circulating amongst staff at the BBC who believe there's more of a reckoning that needs to come is significant. Now, the British Royal Family has been plunged into one of its biggest crises in modern times over the Andrew Mountbatten wins a scandal. but also bubbling under, and I'm sure you've noticed this, is the discussion that our monarchy, which remember gives our monarch the powerful and important position as defender of the faith, head of the Church of England, is becoming far too complacent and actually encouraging at times of the Islamist takeover of the United Kingdom. Now, King Charles has been under the microscope on this for very good reason because the fact that he decided not to issue an Easter message this year when he had done the same thing for Eid and Ramadan infuriated British Christians

up and down the country and I share in that fury and I think it's a massive mistake. Plus we've got decades of evidence which proves that Charles actually believes that folk like us in the West should be changing our culture and taking on some of the cultural practices of Islamism, which to me is nuts when I look at the madness of that religion. But over the past few weeks, there has been increasing focus on the faith of Prince William, who has now admitted that he will put aside what you might say was a laissez-vaire attitude to Christianity and his future role as head of the Church of England to become far more committed now that Sarah Mulali

has become the first female Archbishop of Canterbury. But following a surprising bust-up on social media with John Cleese, there is a new focus on William's previous comments about the Muslim faith. With Basil the Great reporting, Prince William says Islam is the religion of peace. The royal family has completely lost all sense of defending Christianity and the British people.

It is time for a shake-up of this institution. And having watched this video, which I will play you in just one moment, John Cleese, who has been red-pilled on this issue, and I have to say, I'm here for it in recent weeks, posted, could someone ask him, referring to Prince William to read the Quran.

For example, the bits about killing infidels and child marriage and sexual slavery and female genital mutilation and how husbands may be wives and worst of all how dogs should be banned. This is not standard Church of England stuff, is it? Or even the bit about imposing Islam on the entire country, which might be irony, but I don't think so. A lot of British people don't really want any of this. And the problem is that the Quran forbids comparables. Not even the Scottish Presbyterians are as assertive as this. So we're going to get into this Prince William Islam debate with our superstar panel,

Father Calvin Robinson, Sarah White, Anne McElhenny and Dan Grant in just one moment. But first, I want to play you the full context of what Prince William said. And it is important. Context is important here. Because William had made a trip to New Zealand where he united with. that country's dastardly Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who was relishing all of the publicity that she received around the world after an attack that killed Muslims at two mosques in Christchurch city. So that's the context of why William was really trying to, I guess, calm down the

the Muslim population in New Zealand. I do think that context is important. But we'll analyze this. First, I want us to watch the full clip of what William said together. The Muslim community show the world of the true face of Islam as a religion of peace and understanding.

I was very moved by the stories of the great distances that your friends and families traveled to support you in your time of need. Even when your previous connections had not always been frequent, They travelled here to support you because you were family and that is what families do. They drop everything when it is needed. People of all faiths and backgrounds can learn a great deal from how the Muslim families,

affected by the 15th of March attacks, rallied around their loved ones. The example provided by New Zealand will prove to be of enduring value to all nations. What happened here was fueled by a warped ideology that knows no boundaries. no boundaries. The world is rightly united to fight the extremism that has made sorrowful brethren out of cities like New York, Paris, London and Manchester. And that has taken so many lives in Sri Lanka in recent days. And so too we must unite to fight the violent brand of extremism that has led to fatal shootings in a church in Charleston, South Carolina, and in a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a van attack on the streets of Finsbury Park in London,

the murder of an MP in West Yorkshire, and now so many deaths in two mosques here in Christchurch. Extremism in all its forms must be defeated. The message from Christchurch and the message from Al Nour and Lindwood mosques could not be more clear. The global ideology of hate will fail to divide us. Now, Father Calvin-Mompson, the problem I have with that, is that we don't hear Prince William giving a speech like that after an Islamist terror attack. So it's very easy for him, isn't it, to talk about a warped ideology and extremism

when that ideology happens to be practiced by a fellow white man. And obviously what took place in Christchurch was utterly horrific. But why does he not say the same thing after the Islamist terror attacks on this? country, like young girls being blown up at an Ariana Grande concert. And that's the problem I have, number one. And I do also have a problem, Father Calvin, with him saying that Islam is a religion of peace and understanding, because honestly, it's not. It's just not.

It's not. I think many people share your thoughts there. We're sick and tired of being gaslit. Whenever there is any kind of Muslim violence, it's always straight away, are white British or white American politicians come out and say, no, no, no. It's not their fault. It's a religion of peace. It really is a religion of peace. These were the extremists that this. When actually the warped ideology itself, the dangerous ideology itself is Islam. It is evil. It is toxic. It's counter to our culture. It should not be in our lands,

but they can't say that. So instead, they try to convince us that the true religion of Islam is peaceful. It's a good thing. And that the true Mohammedans are peaceful people. And actually, there are very few radicals amongst them that are the ones that are killing us and blowing stuff up. because it's not every Mohammedan, but it is always a Mohammedan. This is the problem we're facing. And so we need leaders who can stand up and say Islam is toxic. That doesn't mean we hate everyone who follows Islam.

It means we want to bring them around to our culture, which is the Christian culture because we believe it to be true, good and beautiful. We want everyone to know Christ so then get to heaven. We don't want them worshipping a demon. We don't want them following a paedophile warmongerer. We want them to be good people. So let's help them rather than leaving them in their toxic ideology

to go and blow themselves up to meet their 72 virgins in Valholler or wherever it is. Sarah White, you have a real problem with that from Prince William, don't you? You've even nominated him as you need a podcast today. I have a massive problem with it because at the end of the day, he stands there and says about it being a religion of peace and he talks about how people could learn from the Muslim religion. Well, could we all learn how that Pakistani Muslim men

attack white young girls, rape them, murder them? And no, it's not all of them. However, it's the minority that control the majority in their religion. The minority are the terrorists because we know they're not all terrorists. We know that they're not all bad people. However, the majority will not speak out. So they are controlled by the minority. And if we look at there's 137,000 cases of female mutilation of genitalia in this country alone that are known about.

What do they do for their own women? so they don't care about anybody else. And people need to call this out. For him to stand there and he's going to be a future king of this country, how does he represent the Christian faith? We want this to be a Christian land and we do not. The best thing Mohammed ever done was declare himself as the full and final profit that there would be no other profit after him

because at least we might be able to put an end to what they, you know, who they respect, represent. and everything because it needs to be stopped. It is not, they have not evolved and developed. Whenever you ask people, you know, was the Prophet Muhammad, was he a good person? Or was it what he done right? They will never go against their religion. They don't go against it.

So there's a massive flaw there. And for William to stand up and say it's a religion of peace, it just infuriates me because it's not a religion of peace. Why isn't he saying that Christianity is a religion of peace? They won't do it. They're too bothered. They've sold their soul to the. devil, him and his dad, like father like some, you know, the apple doesn't fall that far from

the tree. They're too bothered about pleasing all the Muslims in this country, for what reason I don't know, and it has to stop. And if our king is not going to do it, people need to realize I was a, I loved the queen. I used to stand up when the queen spoke. I used, you know, it was a real, I love that we had the royal family. But now I look and think, hold on, people don't come from a brawl to see the royal family. They come to see the architecture in the buildings. Charles is just down. He's not my king

and he does not represent this country. It was interesting. I saw Tommy Robinson the other day post that not my king in regards to Charles. But I think, Anne, there is a lot more hope with William on the whole. I mean, William is a woke guy in a lot of ways.

But I think he lacks Charles as sort of like, with Charles, it's so fundamental to him, like his belief that is like, is a good thing. And I don't think William has that so much. And I was harsened to see him just publicly make clear the fact that, of course, he does believe in God and he wants to be the head of the Church of England. But do you share the concerns of Sarah? Yeah, I'm definitely with Sarah on this. I mean, you know what struck me when we were thinking about talking about this was when the IRA,

who were Catholics, Catholics, Christians, you know, blew up places in Ireland. They, you know, murdered children, the elderly women, whatever, anyone at all, you know, that murderous campaign. There was a massive peace movement that grew up in Ireland, massive. I'm from a tiny town in Ireland. And by the way, a very Republican town, a very pro-IRA town. My mother, you know, who was not political, you know what I mean?

You know, she got up on a truck. and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people came out as part of the peace movement. The peace movement in Ireland won a Nobel Prize. They did so much good. And I just think I'll never ever understand the Ariane Grande massacre and how the streets of Britain weren't filled with the good, good Muslims that we keep hearing about

saying not in my name, not in my... This has nothing to do with us. we denounced. And I know people did. And I know there's, I know loads of people will write into this and say, you know, people said this,

this, a man said this, somebody said this somewhere. Where were the streets? The streets filled, filled, the whole of Britain filled with this outrage of these darling, darling, darling little people who were blown up. And I just think if I was a Muslim,

I would, I'd be like, guys, we need to hit the streets here. Let everyone see, this is not in our name. And I just thought the contrast was extraordinary As I said, I'm from a very Republican town. My mother, you know, God rest her soul, up on the back of a truck making a speech and praying for peace.

That's what we did. That's how we reacted to the things that were being done because we wanted everyone to know not in our name. 100%. Beautifully put Anne, completely agree with that. And we do not see it. Dan, what's your view on Prince William? Do you view him as the hope for the monarchy? as I still do, or do you share more of Sarah's concerns that actually it's like father-like son?

Funny enough, I think this is, well, this is a talking point. I know the Royal Family quite well. I was a Queen's Guard for five years. Oh, wow. Under Queen Elizabeth. Yeah. Incredible. So I understand the Royal Family kind of set up, but I'm not that clued up as you are, Dan.

But, yeah, I think this is a talking point. not just in the royal family, but consensus in the whole of the United Kingdom. You look at the way that the Labour government pander around Islam and bring in Islamophobia definitions. It's just like a talking point. It's a subject that's radioactive to the establishment and to the sort of the royals, that they don't want to get it wrong. And bearing your head in the sand is not the way to go about things, right? Because problems happen.

So if you're just going to ignore these terrorist attacks and whatnot and not actually have conversation about it and bury your head in the sand, then that's never ever going to solve anything. So I think it's a bigger problem really with regard to, you know, the establishment as well as the Royal Family. For William himself, again, I don't hear too much of William. And as I said, I'm not too clued up on the Royal Family as such. But yeah, I do think it's a problem across the whole board really in the UK. Yeah. And I mean, there are other scandals, of course, with King Charles. He has just met the former terrorist, current president of Syria, Ahmed al-Shara,

and he has received criticism for that meeting, including from Rear Admiral Chris Parry. Here's Richard Eden of the Daily Mail explaining why. King Charles has met and entertained a former Al-Qaeda terrorist at Buckingham Palace, and people don't seem to understand one thing. The king entertained Ahmed Al-Qaeda. Shahar, the new president of Syria at Buckingham Palace last week. And this has provoked a torrent of criticism because the president is a former and terrorist linked to al-Qaeda in Syria. Among the most prominent critics is a former Falklands War hero, Rear Admiral Chris Perry,

who said this has come far too soon. He appreciates that the king has to meet all sorts of people who may have had dubious pasts and he has to, in his role as a constitutional monarch. But he thinks it's happened far too quickly, and there should have been a period of just establishing himself and perhaps having democratic elections in Syria first before he was invited. What perhaps he and others don't seem to appreciate

is that the king doesn't have much choice about these matters. As a constitutional monarch, he's there to advise, and he could raise concerns. But ultimately, if the government asks, him to have a meeting such as this, he will do it. Imagine if he refused, it could cause a real constitutional crisis. Yeah, and that's the issue with this meeting. I mean, I thought it was absolutely revolting the way that everyone just ignored the fact that we're laying out the red carpet for Ahmed al-Shara, you know, an Islamist terrorist. However, that's on Starma, isn't it,

rather than the king? Yes. Yes. And there's a little bit of And there's a long history of this kind of thing. I mean, I lived in Romania. Chowcchescu was entertained by the Queen, by Queen Elizabeth. Yes, she hated it. She actually hid from him. That's right. And she was told, and by the way, I love that story because she was told they're going

to steal stuff. And of course, they stole a bunch of stuff, you know. But Idi Amin was also entertained. And yes, it's on the government. And by the way, it's right and left who are responsible for having the Queen and the King, in this case, entertain scum, you know, and awful people. So it's really, I mean, I, yeah, this is a matter for the government, not for, the king cannot, he's not in a position to say no to that. There would be a constitutional crisis. But there is a long,

long and distinguished and not attractive history of entertaining the worst possible people and the worst possible abusers of human rights and worse across the world. And the Chinese president. And, And I've all been given state visits. And so that's why I don't really think you can blame Charles for that specifically. But look, William is nominated for the first time today by Sarah White as today's Union Jackass. So we're going to reveal whether he's won or not in just one moment. But firstly, thank you so much for your super chats.

Today, Steve Taylor says, why don't the peaceful followers of Islam else the extremist silence is deafening? Alex Marman says when Israelis were stopped from going to a football match by Aston Villa. William said nothing even though he's an Aston Villa fan. That says a lot. The trigger says Islam is false. And thank you for joining Outspoken Plus, Laura Jane, who says love the show, Dan, keep up the good work. So very much appreciate that. Okay, a reminder of today's union jackass nominees.

Father Calvin Robinson has nominated Wes Streeting over the fact that he's been going for yay in regards to the Wireless Festival, but he himself has put power before morals. The Aful Mansion, Sarah White, has nominated Prince William. She says he's following in his father's footsteps, believing that Islam is a religion of peace. And Dan Grant nominated Matt Goodwin for attacking voices on his own side, while conveniently forgetting that reform itself was once built by so-called unknown amateurs. It's pure hypocrisy dressed up as strategy.

And goodness me, it was close today. In third place, with 28% of the vote, Father Calvin Robinson and Wes Streeting. The runner-up with 34% of the vote. Dan Grant's choice, Matt Goodwin. But Sarah White has won this for the first time, with Prince William being named today's Union Jackass, 39% of the vote. And what's fascinating, you know, we put the Union Jackass's head to head

to be named the worst Britain in the world at the end of the week. Well, guess who was nominated on Monday? King Charles. So that is a shock for a royalist show like this. But Anne McElheny, you were nominating today's Greatest Britain. Who have you gone for? J.K. Rowling, I'm getting so sick and tired of people not being courageous, not being brave. When she started telling the truth about this trans insanity, when she started all of that,

she could have been destroyed back then. She could have really been destroyed. And she put it all out on the line. And what I really love is that despite all the haters and the lunatics who are going along with this massive gaslighting asking people to believe that a woman is a, you know, can change that you can change your sex. Complete idiocy, madness, insanity, diabolical. She stood strong and has remained strong and has continued this fight. By the way, she could be writing the next great novel that we read for a thousand years. And instead of that, she's doing this fabulous fight.

And, you know, so many people are not brave or not courageous. and she is. So she's my great Britain of the week. God bless her. We need more like her. Brilliant. Yeah, I saw her post something hilarious earlier today, I think, about what it meant to be asexual.

And it was very funny. I saw that. It's fantastic. Yeah, it was very funny. So people can check that out. Okay, amazing. So, and your October the 7th play, you've had a bit of issue,

a bit of an issue, staging it. Is that right? Yeah, it's incredible. Actually, yeah. So in all these theatres in Dublin, in Ireland, where they're, you know, they need money badly and they have nights that are dark and we've said, can we rent? So, you know, the Abbey Theatre turned us down. They kind of don't do that sort of thing. And now we're with the National Concert Hall who are reconsidering whether or not to allow us to go forward. But the out, what's been very shocking is to see the attitude of Irish anti-Semites who are showing their colours on X. I put a tweet up explaining what's going on and the hate has been really quite. shocking and quite scary, quite frightening. But we will not be stopped. This play just tells the truth about what happened on October 7th in 2023. We went there.

We interviewed people all over the country and it created a play, which is verbatim, just the words played by 14 actors. And it's very, very powerful telling the story of that awful massacre, of that awful day. So hopefully it'll happen in Dublin and we'll keep you posted. But for right now, the National Concert Hall in Dublin are still considering. God, so weak because, I mean, what are they afraid of? That's the point. It's just the voices of showing what happened.

What are they afraid of? And thank you so much. Thank you also to Sarah White of Advanced UK, Father Calvin Robinson, as always. And Dan Grant, great to have you for the first time I'd outspoken, and your YouTube channel, British standards where you broadcast from. Yes, that's right, Dan. Amazing. Well, look, please do you.

And you realized this time last year, me and Anne were on a cruise together. Yes, we were. Oh, was it this channel? Mark Stein Cruz. That was great fun. That was a great time. I'd like to be that. Let's do it all again.

Yes, definitely. Wouldn't that be delightful? Yes, it's time for a little cocktail. I definitely think so, time. Okay, well, I might go off for a cocktail in the sun right now because trust me, these hot days don't happen much in London and the United Kingdom. So I think I'll have a bit of a cocktail hour now. But first I'm going to head over to Substack, actually, for the Royal Line Council

and after show. I am looking forward to it, though, because P. Diner is standing. by big royal news about King Charles's health, you can join us there at www. www. outspoken. Dot live. But we will be back live with you tomorrow, 5pm UK time, midday Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Please do hip subscribe right now on YouTube.

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