Dan Wootton Outspoken - NIGEL FARAGE RESIGNS AS MP FOR CLACTON & FORCES BY-ELECTION AFTER ON CAMERA CLASH WITH SKY NEWS

Starting point is 00:00:00 No spin, no bias, no censorship. I'm Dan Wooden. This is outspoken episode number 533. And breaking right now, Nigel Farage snaps. Resigning as an MP and forcing what is shaping up to be the most farcical by-election in British history. In Clacton, given Restore Britain, has just announced it will not stand. That's after an astonishing clash with sly news over the harassment of his daughter. So this furious speech this afternoon from Reform UK HQ stunned Westminster. Still, she now has broadcasters, heranging her. Sky News were one of them and when I question them on it, they willfully and deliberately lied and said on their channel that they hadn't contacted the family.

Starting point is 00:00:53 Well, let me be clear, I will not tolerate intimidation of my family. Why should I be judged today or in history in the future by Sky News and their ilk? Why should they be the people that decide my fate when, as I repeat, I have done nothing wrong? Today I will resign as a member of Parliament for Clacton-on-C, thereby forcing a by-election. No, I've decided that the people of Clacton should be the judges of my actions. This will be a people versus the establishment by election. Now that announcement came just hours after this extraordinary scrap with sly news after Farage arrived back into the country.

Starting point is 00:01:44 Was it a mistake not to declare the gifts from George Cottrell, sir? You tell your bosses, you harass my family anymore. I'll think you'd be serious consequences. That's what your organisation has done this morning. Go away. Nigel Farage's reaction to question. about the financial support he received from a convicted criminal. Was it a mistake not to declare the gift, sir?

Starting point is 00:02:05 You have broken all the rules. Leverson and everything else. Cut. Sky News has not contacted Mr Farage's family over the story. Okay, huge developments on that today. Did you hear the denial there? Well, Sly News has had to do a 180 watch. We acknowledge that Sky News was part of a broadcast pool operation outside a property linked to Mr. Farage yesterday. We approached the property off camera on a single occasion, identified ourselves, and the occupant

Starting point is 00:02:35 chose not to engage. And Reform UK's Robert Jenrick has just had a major bust-up live on air on Sly News, challenge them about that. I'm going to show you what happened very shortly. There are also shocking claims as we come on air from Nigel's GB News colleague and friend Jacob Rees-Mogg that there are more allegations of financial impropriety to come, And he also says the leaks against Nigel actually coming from within Reform UK itself. It gives the further question of whether there is more to come. People inside reform indicate to me that there is more to come,

Starting point is 00:03:11 that there are more problems around the financing and structures of reform. People have been saying that there are others in reform who want to replace Nigel. My guess is that this information has been leaked by Nigel's opponents who are trying to do him down. And my bet is that these stories come from inside reform. So we'll tackle all the astonishing breaking news today with our superstar panel, husband and wife, dynamic duo, Christine and Neil Hamilton, Neil, of course,

Starting point is 00:03:39 the former leader of UKIP, who had his own high-profile stoutch with Farage. There they are looking forward to speaking to them very shortly. Also coming up on the show today, the MSM tries to cancel the Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albinisi for admitting he would shag Kylie Minogue. Good Lord. It's like Lawrence Fox Shaggate all over

Starting point is 00:04:02 again, but down under, we'll reveal all on that bizarre story for a bit of fun. And Prince Harry flies into an anti-Semitism storm as he disgraces the British family. Once more, this of course, in light of the massive verdict in the court case

Starting point is 00:04:18 against the Daily Mail, which we will be discussing over on Substake without superstar Royal panel, Hugo Vickers, Paula Frolic and Lee Cohen will also reveal a brand new greatest British in Union Jackass. Of course, Neil Hamilton has gone for Prince Harry after that 50 million pound thumping in court today. Christine, oh, this is so mean. Christine's gone for Jordan Henderson, the England player.

Starting point is 00:04:46 You know, he fell over in the celebrations and he's broken his arm, I think. And I've gone for Beef Rigby for Sly News lying about approaching Farage's daughter. But let's get straight to this breaking news now. Keep your superchats coming in. We'll read out the best at the end of the show. But now, let's go. It was the moment that Nigel Farage, after years of relentless MSM harassment, finally snapped. After arriving back from America at a London airport last night, a reporter from Sly News, the same legacy media organisation that Reform UK sources told me have been harassing his daughter, who is not in the public eye,

Starting point is 00:05:29 approached him for a comment about new allegations about his financial relationship with the convicted criminal, Posh George. Then this happened. Was it a mistake not to declare the gifts from George Cotrell, sir? You tell your bosses,

Starting point is 00:05:44 you harass my family anymore, and I'll take me the serious consequences. That's what your organisation has done this morning. Go away. Nigel Farage's reaction to questions about the financial support he received from a convicted criminal. Was it a mistake not?

Starting point is 00:05:57 to declare the gift, sir. Do you not hear me? You have broken all the rules. Leverson and everything else. Cut. Sky News has not contacted Mr Farage's family over the story. So as someone who has known Nigel Farage for many years, was a close colleague of his for three years.

Starting point is 00:06:16 I knew that's not the normal Nigel Frat. All is not okay. The pressure is getting to him. It was going to result in a major change. and so the question Westminster was asking, would Farage quit as reform leader? Hell no! But would he force a by-election in Clacton

Starting point is 00:06:35 rather than be forced out after a lengthy parliamentary investigation? Well, at 2pm, we got confirmation as the Brexit King dropped a political grenade in his war with the MSM by announcing he is resigning as a member of Parliament.

Starting point is 00:06:54 He will trigger a by-election in what, He wants to be seen as a demonstration of the people versus the media establishment. His address delivered from Reform HQ where he took no questions was both angry and extraordinary as he accused sly news of threatening his daughter's security. To protect the privacy and safety of my family. By publishing that photograph, the editor of the Times has directly threatened. her security. I wonder what happened to the Levitin inquiry of years ago, an inquiry that

Starting point is 00:07:33 sought to bring better balance between what the press could do and families of those in public life. Worse still, she now has broadcasters, her rang her. Sky News, well one of them, and when I questioned them on it, they willfully and deliberately lied and said on their channel that they hadn't contacted the family. will let me be clear. I will not tolerate intimidation of my family. I will not tolerate the location of where they live being revealed. I will not tolerate any of my family being endangered

Starting point is 00:08:10 because of what I choose to do in public life. So yes, you can ask, am I angry? But I've never been angrier in my life. He then dropped the bomb. Why should I be judged today or in history in the future by Sky News and their ilk? Why should they be the people that decide my fate when, as I repeat, I've done nothing wrong? I've thought about it hard and I've decided today. Today I will resign as a member of Parliament for Clacton-C,

Starting point is 00:08:50 thereby forcing a by-election, which would happen, I hope, in short order. No, I've decided that the people of Clapton should be the judges of my actions. This will be a people versus the establishment by-election. It's a chance to stick two fingers up to the entire establishment, to frankly tell them where to go. And that is why I will be putting my name forward to stand in this by-election. I will fight to win. I will fight to continue the political revolution.

Starting point is 00:09:26 that reform has started. And I would say this to you, the voters of Clacton. If I win, you win. Because if I lose, they win. And we will never, with the two old parties, get the type of fundamental change that we need to fix broken Britain. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:09:46 But as we come on here today, what was shaping up to be the most bloody by-election and British history is now likely to be a massive farce. With Restore Britain leader Rupert Lowe, announcing he will not stand a candidate to the right of Farage. This was his first post on X, where he wrote, Farage has proven one thing today and one thing only. Everything that he does is about one person, Nigel Farage. The people of Clacton do not need a media circus descending

Starting point is 00:10:12 on their town over a busy tourist season because their MP has made a series of bad decisions. He should have declared that five million pounds. He knows that we all know it. Now he is going to weaponise a by-election to distract from that. This is going to cost the taxpayer of a quarter of a million pounds, eye-watering sums of money. Think about what that money could do for the people of Calcton. Will Farage funded out of his own pocket because he bloody, well, should. This is making a mockery of our entire democratic process. He made a bad decision after bad decision and concealed money in a way that has spectacularly backfired. A by-election will not deflect from that fact and nor should it. I will be making an announcement later today about Restore Britain's plans.

Starting point is 00:10:53 And then we got those plans. And it started this way. Restore Britain will stand in the Clacton by-election. But hold up, hold up, because all is not as it seems. The second one, he added, held later this year. When the investigations into Farage's finances conclude, as we all suspect they will, we are not going to participate in a reform-sponsored media circus over the summer months that is designed to puff up Farage's east. and deflect away from the wholly fair questions over why he has concealed such vast and irregular financial donations. Fragge can play with his toys for the next six weeks, but Restore Britain is going to continue producing detailed policy papers exactly as we have been, outlining how we can fix our country. That is what I'm interested in, detail, data, policy, a plan. I feel for the people of Clacton who deserve so much better than this unnecessary sham forced on them throughout their summer. Not everyone thinks this is a waste of time.

Starting point is 00:11:55 US President Donald Trump backing Farage overnight, posting this article on his truth social platform, they are running the 2024 anti-Trump playbook on Nigel Farage. And Katie Hopkins has also backed Farage's strategy today. Watch. Firstly, strategically, this is brilliant play. Get the world's eyeballs on Nigel. He gets to state his piece and his case, and he makes the case for success.

Starting point is 00:12:24 I'm a successful individual. We need successful individuals. I'm backed by other successful individuals. Look at the losers in labour. And it's true. We have a bunch of window liquors on the labour front bench. Number two, tactically, this is genius play. It's a straight fight. Nigel against the establishment. And right now here in the UK, because things are so dreadful, there is a spirit of revolution in the air. there is a rebellious thing. We'd much rather back Nigel because at least he's been in it for us. At least he's been fighting for ordinary people. At least he's something we can more or less get behind some of the time rather than back to the establishment who just trying to do him over. So this is a great tactical play as well. And finally, emotionally, this is genius because it's

Starting point is 00:13:13 about his kids. He talks about, you can come for me, you can come from what I am, you can attack me, whatever, I'll just get more security, but you don't come for my kids. And that's something we can all get behind. And Sly News have been humiliated on that point. And I want to take you through it because it's important. So they had to admit that they lied about not approaching his daughter as they released this statement after the news of his resignation. We have a statement from Sky News I can bring to you.

Starting point is 00:13:44 And it's this, that Nigel Farage has legitimate questions to answer about the gift he accepted from Mr. Cottrell. Given the clear public interest in this matter, Sky News has been seeking a response from Mr Farage and has made reasonable efforts to contact him. We acknowledge that Sky News was part of a broadcast pool operation outside a property linked to Mr. Farage yesterday. We approached the property off-camera on a single occasion,

Starting point is 00:14:08 identified ourselves, and the occupant chose not to engage. So that there's statement from Sky News. Let's bring in... But they were caught red-handed. Just listen to the comparison. of those two statements. So the first, when they approached Farage at the airport yesterday, then today following his resignation. Sky News has not contacted Mr Farage's family over the story.

Starting point is 00:14:30 We acknowledge that Sky News was part of a broadcast pool operation outside a property linked to Mr Farage yesterday. We approached the property off-camera on a single occasion, identified ourselves, and the occupant chose not to engage. They even repeated the lie on X, writing Mr Farage was returning from Independence Day celebrations when Sky News asked him about claims relating to financial support received from a convicted criminal. Farage accused Sky News of harassing his family. Sky News has not contacted anyone from his family about the story.

Starting point is 00:15:01 But Farage hit back saying this is an outright lie from Sky News. They hounded my daughter at home just days after the Times published where my family lived, despicable behavior from the media. And breaking right now in the last few moments, Farage has just released the CCTV footage and I'm going to take you through this actually. So this has literally just dropped. So Farage says, and this is alongside CCTV footage, which is going to show, I believe, the journalist from Sly News. So that's the daughter with her face blurred out.

Starting point is 00:15:40 And I believe I am told these are the Sly News journalists pulling up in the car where according to Farage, they harass his daughter, who I believe is the daughter with her face blurred. Farage has released these pictures and included this statement. Several media organisations have been hounding my daughter. When I approached the boss of Sky News and complained, they denied any contact and so did their news report. Sky News are liars. I demand an apology from them and they promise not to repeat it. And there is further video here, which seems to show other men arriving at the house as well.

Starting point is 00:16:26 So this is CCTV footage released by Nigel Farage. What's very interesting to me in all of this is that Sky News or Sly News, that's my name for them, and I'm sticking to it, say that this was a pool operation. Now, that would imply that Nigel Farage's precious GP News was actually part of the. the operation to harass his daughter. But it has all just kicked off on air on Sly News today. So Robert Jenrick, and good on him, he is, of course, the big poaching from the Conservative Party for Nigel Farage's Reform UK. He has gotten to an almighty on-air scrap with Sly News and their presenter, Jane Secker,

Starting point is 00:17:11 and pundit, or, you know, on-air contributor, Adam Bolton, long-time political editor of Sly News, when he directly confronted the broadcaster over its behaviour in regards to Nigel Farage's daughter. This is astonishing broadcasting. Why did you knock on the door of Nigel Farage? So here we are. Why did you knock on the door of Nigel Farage's daughter's house?

Starting point is 00:17:38 What possible public interest was served by that? As I say, I take it to the... Do you have children? I take it to the statement. I take it to the statement. Would you like, would you, no, don't hide behind the statement. I'm not, I'm not hiding behind any statement. Would you like, would you like people doorstepping your son or daughter?

Starting point is 00:17:55 It is a standard media practice. I wouldn't. To doorstep people's kids now, is it? To doorstep. Right. I can tell you, for a fact, it's happened to me. Did you enjoy that experience? My children had been doorstep.

Starting point is 00:18:05 Did you enjoy that? I didn't enjoy it, but I don't, I don't protest about it. I think it's perfectly legitimate. So you, Adam, Adam, so here we are. You're saying that it's perfectly legitimate for Sky News to hound the daughter of Nigel Farage. Oh, my goodness. Hang on. Now, after that, Adam Bolton desperately tried to defend Sly News's tactics.

Starting point is 00:18:29 You're asking my question. I am saying that, I am saying that journalists, I'm saying journalists, I'm saying journalists are entirely entitled to make inquiries. It's not against the law. It is not against the law. How old is Nigel Farage's daughter? I don't think she's a kid. Of their children? You think it's perfectly legitimate?

Starting point is 00:18:49 Let's lower the tone. The point of the matter is that... Sky News has lowered the tone. Please, let me just put the point. The point is that there have been questions about a number of homes belonging to Nigel Farage. Media organisations in the public interest will approach those properties. In the public interest,

Starting point is 00:19:03 you are seriously arguing that it was in the public interest to go to the house of Nigel Farage's daughter. That is your argument to say. That is not my argument. I'm simply saying that I am simply saying that when there is... No. And that clash wasn't over yet. I'm simply reading the statement that we have.

Starting point is 00:19:28 You're making the argument as to why... I'm not making any argument. The political establishment, which Skynees is clearly apart, is trying to hound Nigel Farage to try to get him to leave public life by putting pressure on his family. Well, it's not going to work. No one's putting pressure on his. No one is putting pressure on Nigel Farage's family.

Starting point is 00:19:47 It is perfectly legitimate. And tired old journalists like you, Adam, who have been part of that consensus for my whole life, are going to have to realise that the public are sick of this. Listen, hang on a second. Hang on, it is perfectly legitimate for newspapers and broadcasters to try to establish whether a man who wants to be Prime Minister owns five houses or not. I think that's legitimate. And the reason why it's legitimate is because someone else who once wanted to be Prime Minister,

Starting point is 00:20:14 Jeremy Hunt declared that in his members' interests. What we've got is Nigel Farage, Nigel Farage, not following the rules that are required of political candidates. And Generic, I have to say he was bullse, pointed out that none of the so-called great MSM journalists surrounding him actually wanted to answer any questions. Most people looking at those rules would see that he has violated this. Isn't it funny that when I challenge Sky News on air,

Starting point is 00:20:43 All of these so-called great political journalists assembled in front of me don't want to actually answer questions. I'm trying to ask you a question. I'm trying to ask you a question. I'm trying to ask you a question. I'm answering your question. You said it's in the public interest. I'm answering your question. You said you didn't like it when people are doing.

Starting point is 00:20:59 I'm also saying, I've also got a very simple question for you. If you disrespect the House of Commons, if you think it's just full of the old establishment parties who are going out, then why is Nigel Faris bothering to become an MP? Because he wants to lead this country. and turn it around. Well, that's why. The sly shills embarrassed themselves further this afternoon as they showed how out of touch they are

Starting point is 00:21:21 with Brits outside of London, seeming to think that Clacton is in Kent, not Essex, and another humiliating on-air disaster. Reform UK colleagues in private, deciding to put the whole question of his future to the people of Clacton in Kent and let them try and settle it. It doesn't get you out of an investigation, it has to be said,

Starting point is 00:21:40 and but now over the summer, over the August weeks, possibly meaning a by-election right at the start of September, the question of Nigel Farage will be put to a tiny little cell of the electorate of voters of Clacton will decide. Now when Woke ITV actually went to Clacton in Essex, they discovered that real Brits don't actually really give a damn about Farage. finances. Clearly, the committee has got something here to look at and there are questions to be answered. If he was found to have broken the rules, possible sanctions include suspension from

Starting point is 00:22:22 the Commons which could lead to a by-election. These constituents, though, were still backing him. It's still a good MP. They're trying to find anything wrong on him, but they won't find anything wrong. But they're fighting with him, that's why. I don't care if they do, I still vote for him. I've got more things on my mind at the moment than the state of things. Nigel Farage's finances. Farage's problems coinciding with a dip in the polls have led to some reports he could quit as reform's leader, but sources close to him tonight strenuously denied that that is on his mind.

Starting point is 00:22:55 Well, that was true. He was quitting as an MP, but not as reform leader. What is interesting, though, to see figures on the right who have been critics of Farage for a long time, like Richard Taylor, furiously back Nigel Farage and actually call on him to sue. Sly News and the Times newspaper. But for journalists to turn up at your family's home, your daughter, relatives, is absolutely repugnant, especially when they have nothing to do with politics whatsoever.

Starting point is 00:23:25 Regardless of what you think about Nigel Farage... He has every right to be angry. So would I. This is beyond the pale. Journalists turning up at his daughter's home to harass her for comment on donations he's recently received. It's got nothing to do with his family. So why are you targeting his family? Why target his daughter? It's an absolute disgrace and I hope that Farage takes you to the cleaners and the times as well for releasing that data and they turned up to harass his daughter

Starting point is 00:23:55 Now look his daughter's not political in any way. She's not engaged with reform. She's not part of the party in that sense. So leave his family alone And I have to say there is so much hatred quite rightly out there towards sly news freedom fighter Lucy Connors Johnley, jailed for a post on X, wrote, Sky News used to make me cry daily when I first got banged up. The absolute bile and shite they were trotting out on the daily about the Tory councillor's wife and her family like they were obsessed. I remember the day I put my plea in. I was via video link because I didn't like going to court in those disgusting sweatboxes.

Starting point is 00:24:31 The courts in Peterborough were just down the corridor from the house block. By the time I'd put my plea in, took about a minute, walked back to the house block another two minutes. Sly News had plastered my photo. all over TV with breaking news going along the bottom of the screen. Tory councillor's wife pleads guilty. Mate, I'm a childminder and mother living in a three-bed semi in Northamptonshire. What is the deal here?

Starting point is 00:24:52 Honestly, the reports they did on me closely followed by the BBC were disgraceful, all done to try and cause as much distress and damage to me and my family as possible. Absolute scum. I have to say there has been hypocrisy across the mainstream media everywhere today. I'm open-mouthed about this one, right? So, you know, Red Rainer, the tax evader, Angela Rainer, who literally had to stand down as Deputy Prime Minister because she didn't pay the appropriate tax,

Starting point is 00:25:25 daring to now go on LBC and host a show filling in for James O'Brien standing in moral judgment of Nigel? This is eye-watering amounts of money. The obvious question to that is, what's his donors getting in return? And why has he tried to cover them up and to avoid legitimate questions? I don't think that Nigel can shrug this scandal off and hope that it goes away. I think this one's got lots of legs and it's going to carry on running. And he seems to have a bit of flexible relationship with the transparency.

Starting point is 00:26:04 And that is me being diplomatic and putting it mildly. Oh, Ange. Oh, and you scumbag, if there is one politician in this country who I do not want to say a word about Nigel Farage's so-called financial impropriety, it's you. And LBC put her there. I mean, this is nuts. Richard Tice has also revealed something very, very disturbing in the past hour as well. He is writing that reform is now accusing the National Crime Agency of leaking bank statements. to the Guardian newspaper.

Starting point is 00:26:42 He's announced, I believe, someone in NCA leaked company statements, bank transport information, and private conversations with my bank managers to the Guardian. I'm seeking inquiry and the police must investigate. So it does look like there are a lot of dirty tricks going on. The big question, however, is where are these leaks about Farage coming from?

Starting point is 00:27:03 You know, about Posh George and the five million pound gift? Well, Jacob Rees Mogg, who, yes, he is a conservative, I give you that, but he's also a friend of Nigel Farage, a colleague of Nigel Farage at G.B. News says, not only are there more shocking financial revelations for impropriety to come from within Reform UK, Nigel's actually trying to be destroyed by people from within the party. The leaks are coming from within Reform UK. Watch this. further question of whether there is more to come. People inside reform indicate to me that there is more to come, that there are more problems around the financing and structures of reform. It is a new party, and it has faced teething problems, to put it at its mildest, and beggars can't be choosers that when you need to fund a new party, you're not overwhelmed by the great and the good offering you cash. You have to take it sometimes from more peripheral figures. So that is a line of attack.

Starting point is 00:28:11 And Nigel is not a details man. He is somebody who has a broad and big picture. Therefore it is perhaps not surprising that his registrations have sometimes been late and sometimes been not entirely complete. So if there's more to come, what next? This is the big question. People have been saying that there are others in reform who want to replace Nigel. My guess is that this information has been leaked by Nigel.

Starting point is 00:28:38 's opponents who are trying to do him down. My bet is that these stories come from inside reform. Interesting, isn't it? Very, very interesting to know what's really going on there. Dan Hodges pointed out, and this very much suggests that many fingers have been pointed at a certain Zia Yusuf. So strangely Zia Yusuf, who is normally prolific on fair, on hair, has said nothing at all in defense of Nigel.

Starting point is 00:29:08 Farage over the Cottrell scandal. And then he added, I know he will now once he sees people saying this, but it's odd. And so sure enough, sure enough, he then did post immediately following that from Dan Hodges, leave Nigel's family alone. What is clear, though, is that reform can't take any criticism, even from so-called critical friends. So Camilla Tomine, who is on GV News, told Richard Tice to play the ball and not the man in regards to attacks on the journalist Gabriel Pogrom from the Sunday Times who broke this whole story and Aaron Banks, close ally of Farage,

Starting point is 00:29:47 simply replied, conservative shill. And it's not all left-wing criticism, by the way, with even his friends like Julia Hartley Brewer saying she does have issues with the Harbourn donation. I still think he should have declared this. I still think I've got questions about anyone involved in public life

Starting point is 00:30:06 getting big sums of money personally from crypto billionaires or from anybody that isn't their mum or dad, frankly. I'm so sorry. I just think he's made a horrible error here. That said, I do think, you know, I do think the Westminster

Starting point is 00:30:22 they are trying to put the knife in and I think they're going to fail in the same way that the Democrats and the Democrats supporting media in America try to put the knife into Donald Trump. And they are only going to increase the sense of grievance. from people who support him. But look, you know, on this show, I've covered a lot,

Starting point is 00:30:40 this sort of right-wing ecosystem in the mainstream media of Talk TV and GB News. And the fact that actually it's a really bad thing being a propaganda outfit for any party. And I don't believe it's a good thing for Nigel Farage either. Because I think GB News and Talk TV have led Farage to believe he can get away with, well, anything. And he can't.

Starting point is 00:31:04 So in the midst of this crisis, I want to point to a very bizarre and uncomfortable interview with two people who claim they are journalists, but are now Reform UK Shields, Talk TV's Jeremy Kyle and Isabel Oakshot, Oakshot being the fiancée of Richard Tice. And look, this is such an interesting exchange because they're talking about Farage, but they start the conversation by finally admitting that they are paid propagandas for the party. Look at this. Let's talk Nigel Farahis. There's a couple of other things as well,

Starting point is 00:31:37 but we have to talk about a story that is on the front of many papers this morning. Farage says, this is a hit job. I've done nothing wrong. Now, we have to be very honest, you and I. I've done some work for reform, and we'll continue to do some work for reform. You're about to marry the deputy leader of reform,

Starting point is 00:31:54 but we are also broadcasters who have to look at things dispassionately. I want to play you if I can. I don't know if you heard it, but I'm going to play you because I thought it was brilliant. I had Poppy Coburn in earlier and this was her take on it, Isabel. Have a listen. Let's not forget, this Labour government began with Lord Ali's donation scandal, where a man who was donating directly to politically affected officials was allowed to pick the selection of Labour MPs, who had great influence over the direction of the party. So he literally paid,

Starting point is 00:32:25 I'm sorry, it seems like it, he paid and then he got influence. So let's put that on the table. Leaving aside even their Peter Mandelson job, where again another seriously unsavory individual who actually had great political influence and was best friends with a paedophiles. So there's Labour. They are turning around and now saying, Nigel Farage, look at him, look how dirty he is, look how dirty his party is. This is someone who's given up 25 years of his life. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:32:50 Isabel, that was Poppy Coburn from the Telegraph. I think, eruditely putting it perfectly, where do you stand on this situation with Nigel Farage? Do you know what? I'm so sick of this. What is Nigel trying to do? He is trying to save the country. Every day I speak, and I'm sure you do too, Jezza, you do multiple times on your show. We speak to people who are utterly exasperated with the state of our country, and they are desperate for someone like Nigel to fix things.

Starting point is 00:33:23 I mean, all of this is hilarious to me because Nigel Farad and Isabel Oakshot actually despise each other. But let's put that to one side, because Isabel did concede. what I've been saying for months. She is not impartial when it comes to reform. And she actually then just all of a sudden started to refer to reform using the collective we. What's coming at him is just an absolutely relentless onslaught. Now let me tell you, Jeremy, with my sort of reform hat on, because as you say,

Starting point is 00:33:55 my partner is the deputy leader of the party. I'm not impartial on this one. We expected this. We knew that the establishment would throw everything at us. What's taken us by surprise is the timing of this. Why is it happening now? We thought that it would probably come a bit later in the political cycle, but it is a mark of the desperation of Andy Burnerman's outriders and the Labour lot

Starting point is 00:34:27 that they're doing this now because they are trying to kill off Nigel. Isabel then admitted she is withholding stories from her audience about the full truth of this story, which I think is the opposite of what any independent journalists would do. Your job is actually to report to your audience what you know, not withhold information from them. Oh, it's more than interesting, Jeremy. I mean, there are things that I know that will come out in due course that would make your hair stand on end about the level to which this kill Nigel, operation, metaphoric, kill Nigel operation, goes. It is truly, truly disturbing. And what exactly

Starting point is 00:35:06 are they trying to prove here? You know, we all know that Nigel Farage is not a standard issue politician that has spent his years carefully, carefully navigating, just not causing quite enough events, appealing to the right people, calculating what's best for his career. That's not him. He's an instinct politician who's happy to have different characters around him, personalities, people who've taken a few risks

Starting point is 00:35:37 in life, people that have built businesses. This is not a smooth, professional, coolly calculated kind of old political parties. And as well, insisted, George Cottrell deserves a second chance.

Starting point is 00:35:52 Let me ask you, let me ask you, let me ask you some direct questions from your point of view. What does Nigel Farage do with his top team now and does he or does he have to distance himself from George Cottrell? No, he doesn't have to distance himself from George Cottrell because nothing has changed. Everybody knows George's background. I happen to believe and I think millions of good British people believe the same that people deserve a second chance. His history is history. It's just that. It was a very long time ago. He was a very young man. I was peripherally around George Cottrell at that time. In fact, I was on the very same plane as he was

Starting point is 00:36:37 when he was met off the plane by law enforcement in the US. So I know that story inside out. He is a very, very different character today to the young man that he was then. And he has done so much for the party, arguably, you know, Nigel would not be where he is today without the support of amazing, loyal friends like that. And you know, I just feel this story is going to end rather differently, rather differently to how his haters expect. Brilliant. Listen, great to have you on, my darling. Say good morning to the best-looking MP in the Commons, and we'll see you very soon. Isabel Oakshot talks international. Sorry, so I'm just looking for my sick bucket. Look, that type of coverage is not helping Farage, okay? And the other problem is that can total inconsistency.

Starting point is 00:37:31 So I actually agree that people deserve a second chance, okay? I've always believed in that, but Nigel Farage doesn't. The whole reason he has attacked Tommy Robinson. The whole reason that Richard Tice has described Tommy Robinson supporters is that lot is because of Tommy Robinson's criminal record. Look at this. Listen's talked about this, but he has a criminal record, a list as long as your arm. Violence, violence against women. I mean, I could go on, Nick.

Starting point is 00:38:04 You've said Tommy has a conviction for domestic violence, for beating up women. It's not true. Would you correct that record? He beat up a policeman after an altercation with his wife. Listen, if I got that slightly wrong, I'm sorry, all right. So it is time to stop the hypocrisy. If Reform UK believes that Posh George, George Cottrell, deserves a second chance, then Tommy Robinson and Tommy Robinson's supporters do too. Now, the superstar panel.

Starting point is 00:38:36 Christine and Neil Hamilton with me. Neil Hamilton, you are a former leader of UKIP. You worked with Nigel Farage for many years. What did you make of that video of him snapping with Sly News last night? And what do you make of his bold, decision today to resign as an MP and force a by-election, then it looks like no other serious party is going to stand in? Well, it's brilliant footwork, isn't it? Do you think?

Starting point is 00:39:06 He sees the initiative from having been on the back foot. And it's the biter who is now being bitten. So I think it's actually, I agree with Casey Hopkins in the way. It's a genius move by him because he is now going to present himself as the victim in all this. and to ally himself with the forgotten people of Clacton, as he would describe them, against the establishment to a responsible for the ills which beset our country today. So I think that he's actually chosen the best option, given the position that he's now in, being targeted by the political establishment

Starting point is 00:39:45 through the Parliamentary Standards Committee, which is, of course, going to be stuffed full of his political enemies. Obviously, the Labour Party, there's got a majority on the committee, but the other parties as well the complaint has been made against him by a liberal democrat and so he's not expecting that he's going to be judged impartially by this collection of biased politicians partisan politicians and so he is taking the initiative to make the debate rather wider than they would like it to be and and this whole business about the donations he's received before he became a member of parliament

Starting point is 00:40:20 although i do agree with the julia hartley brewer that it is It was unwise if not to have registered. Declare it, yeah. So declare these payments. Then that's a tactical decision more than anything else. What we have to look at, I think, in all these questions, what's the substance here rather than the form? Or he may have broken the parliamentary rules in the same way that Boris Johnson broke the parliamentary rules,

Starting point is 00:40:44 over-eating a piece of cake in 10 Downing Street or wherever it was during the COVID period. Admittedly, he had actually been responsible introducing the rules which he then broke. But nevertheless, do we really think that Nigel is a corrupt individual? You know, Christopher Harbourn has been a long-term supporter of reform and before that the referendum campaign. George Cottrell has been around Nigel for at least 10 years, to my knowledge. I never met George Cottrell, but he was around Nigel in the years when I was deeply involved in UKIP. So it's never been a secret. What is it that they think that these people are going to get from Nigel in return for,

Starting point is 00:41:22 the money that he's received and on whatever it was that it's been spent on. So I think this is actually a cleansing operation by Nigel as he sees it and has given him the initiative in this dispute. I think the public at large would be pretty bemused by the whole business of the media crusade against Nigel. Everybody knows, as you rightly say, Sly News and the Times are part of the... the globalist establishment. Oh, yeah, and this is a witcher. And this is not a dispassionate pursuit of truth.

Starting point is 00:42:00 And I'm not disagree with that at all. I absolutely believe that the mainstream media are out there to finish Nigel Farage off. Where I'm disagreeing, Christine, is that I'm not quite sure this is the stroke of strategic genius that Katie Hopkins and Neil think it is. And hear me out as to why, Christine, because he is now going to stand in the spy election. I think he thought that Rupert Lowe was going to stand against Reform UK and that it was going to turn into a big bloody battle of the right in Clacton. Well, Rupert has immediately said,

Starting point is 00:42:36 not doing it, this is a farce. It looks like all the other major parties are going to do the same. There's even speculation this afternoon, Christine, that maybe the only other candidate standing against Nigel Farage will be Count Binface. Then Nigel is re-elected, goes back to Parliament, And the investigation into the Harbourn donation, this has been confirmed, Christine, just starts all over again. So we'll still end up with another by-election. And that then just does become farcical.

Starting point is 00:43:05 No, I quite agree. The whole thing is completely farcical. And it's a cavalier disregard of public money, frankly. I mean, how much does a buy-election cost? I think about quarter of a million. Quarter of a million pounds. I'm sure Clacton could do better with that money. But I'm afraid Farage has played his hand to me so badly.

Starting point is 00:43:25 What he should have done right at the beginning is said, yes, okay, I'm sorry. He doesn't really know that word, but I'm sorry. I should have declared this money. I didn't think it was necessary. It all happened before I was elected, etc, etc. Instead of that, he just says, it's nothing to do with you. Nobody cares about that. Go away.

Starting point is 00:43:42 I'm not interested in, all this, that, the other. And it suddenly became, it got completely out of hand for him. And he's now got this parliamentary inquiry. And I completely understand the points Neil is making that that inquiry will be stacked against him. Of course it will. But if you can't stand the heat, then he's tried hard enough to get into that particular kitchen.

Starting point is 00:44:03 I mean, how many times has he stood for Parliament, eight times? It's a nasty place, to be honest. And yes, of course he might be public enemy number one as far as they're concerned. But sly news, yes, they lied about... Yeah, and they're revolting. They're revolting, Christy. I mean, when I was going through my thing, they trespassed.

Starting point is 00:44:22 Slyneuse trespassed on my house, okay? And harassed my fiancé. They are despicable scumbags. I am not disagreeing with Nigel on that for a single second. And I thought Robert Generic was brilliant calling them out. No, I absolutely quite, I quite agree with you all that. But I think one should, don't get me wrong. I think there is no excuse whatsoever for approaching people.

Starting point is 00:44:49 if they're in that sort of situation, approaching their family. But she's not a kid. Robert Jenrick called her a kid. She's not a kid. She's, if it's the daughter I'm thinking of, she's, you know, she's in her 20. She's not a kid. And they just stopped at the end of the drive. If that camera footage was all there is, they didn't even get out of the car.

Starting point is 00:45:09 So, I mean, it's not as though they were all amassed around the window, banging and shoving, you know, telephoto lenses through the door, etc., which we've had. but now I just think It's interesting It looks like Neil can I just ask Because this is also breaking Nigel Farage has said

Starting point is 00:45:27 that he's spoken to the chief executive Of the District Council And offered to cover This is reform Offered to cover the cost of the by-election I'll be writing to Rachel Reeves later today With the same message Given that we ask for this by-election

Starting point is 00:45:38 In the first place It's only right that we pay for it Fine Well that puts that particular argument to bed It really does If he's going to pay for it Then fine If he's going to be

Starting point is 00:45:47 be the only candidate, him and Binface, it shouldn't take long. But I think Jacob, Bruce Mogg put his finger on it when he said, Nigel is not a details man. Well, I'm sorry, but if you're in the House of Commons, you have to follow the rules. And he has failed to do so. And he has to face up to that. He's just sort of played it badly. But, I mean, on the other hand, this is a master stroke.

Starting point is 00:46:10 All we're talking about now, he's taken all the attention away from everything else. Everybody's talking about Nigel. He'll walk it in Clacton. stands as far as I can see he'll walk it. He's got it made. It's going to be very intriguing to see what happens. But sorry, Christine, I just still don't believe it's the master's stroke. I just don't. Well, no, did I say it was a master stroke? No, I don't. I say that. I hope I didn't. I don't think it is. Neil said that. So we can both, we can both disagree with him. I'll deal with Neil later. No, I think it's his usual.

Starting point is 00:46:45 Me, me, me, me, me, me, me business. Which is what Rupert Lowe said. He does love it when the attention is all on him. Yeah, and I think it's quite clever of Rupert Lowe to say, look, we're not going to stand in this one, but once Nigel's back and the investigation plays out, and that is the problem, I just think, did Reform UK actually look into the fact that there can be another election here?

Starting point is 00:47:06 This is not over. The donation scandal doesn't go away. But I think also, I think Jacob is right, that there's a lot of, whatever the word is, you know. Internal issues. Bubbles below the water in reform, which sooner or later they'll come out. Indeed they will.

Starting point is 00:47:27 Indeed they will. I think it's all kicking off. I don't think this story is going. It's all very entertaining. It puts the parliamentary establishment on the back foot in the penalty which they might impose upon Nigel. at the conclusion of their investigation. I can't believe they're going to exonerate him. The system isn't geared to do that,

Starting point is 00:47:52 as I know from my personal experience all those years ago. But I think that they'll be very wary now of imposing a suspension if they suspend him at all of more than 14 days, because the last thing they were wanted to second by election in Clacton. And it would be a pathetic act of self-abnegation by the major parties if they don't put up candidates in this by-election. Well, I don't think they're going to, because I don't think they're going to play for Argers' game,

Starting point is 00:48:23 and then it does turn into a total farce. Can I just give anyone a bit of advice if they are going to appear on mainstream television? Trust me on this one, because it cost me a whole load. Just don't talk about shagging a woman. There seems to be a real issue with that word shag. Now I use it a lot. Maybe it's because I grew up in newsrooms, tabloid newsrooms where my boss has always said, did that person shag that person? But after my whole scandal with Lawrence Fox saying he didn't want to shag the female journalist Ava Santina, which caused us both to lose our jobs at GB News, Australia's prime minister, not a bloke I usually like.

Starting point is 00:49:11 he's called Anthony Alvinisi is being hounded and condemned by the MSM. This is after he appeared on a podcast and within a game admitted that he would shagg the very shaggable pop star Kylie Minogue, another woman who I love. Now Albinisi, look, he didn't just come out with this out of nowhere. He was answering a question and it was a comedy show hosted by someone called Nicky Osborne and they played this game. I'm sure you've heard of it, right? it's something journalists used to get these headlines.

Starting point is 00:49:43 Shag, Marry, Date. And he was given three options. You can think about this at home. Kylie Minogue, the actress Nicole Kidman, and the singer Rhonda Birchmore. This was the answer he gave. We're at rapid-fire questions. Now, every guest gets asked these.

Starting point is 00:50:02 Shag, Marry, Date. Kylie Minogue, Nicole Kidman, or Rhonda Birchmour. I've just got married. I'm only six months in. If it goes tits up, let's just pretend. Oh, Kylie, clearly. You'd marry Kylie and Shagga and data? All of the above.

Starting point is 00:50:18 All right, it's a triple. She's terrific. All right, that's fair. You can imagine the backlash. You can just imagine. Now, today we have heard from the Prime Minister releasing a statement. In one sentence, he says, I apologise unequivocally for the comments.

Starting point is 00:50:42 What's been the reaction to these comments, Pablo? We have heard from the shadow communications minister, Sarah Henderson, who has said that they are disrespectful to women, embarrassing to Australians, and demean the office of the Prime Minister. She also called it crude locker room talk. And of course it was left to his social services minister, Tanya Pilbysek, to try and defend Albanese. I'm not going to comment on a podcast I haven't heard.

Starting point is 00:51:16 I've heard a few seconds of an excerpt that you just paid a second ago. If what the Prime Minister is saying is that he's a fan of Kylie Minogue, I guess that puts him in a group with millions of other Australians, including me, including me, I'm a big fan of Kylie's as well. Well, so am I. I love my Kylie Minogue. Trust me. But that wasn't the point, was it? All of this, I'm not going to lie, is giving me disturbing flashbacks, It's a bit of PTSD if I was woke to this moment in October 2020.

Starting point is 00:51:48 Show me a single self-respective man that would like to climb into bed with that woman ever, ever, who wasn't an in-self, who wasn't a cucked little in-cell. That little woman has been fed, spoon-fed oppression day after day after day after day, starting with the lie of the gender wage gap. And she sat there and I'm going like, if I met you in a bar and that was like sentenced. three, chances of me just walking away are just huge. We need powerful, strong, amazing women who make great points for themselves. We don't need these sort of feminist 4.0. They're pathetic and embarrassing. Who'd want to shag that? Oh, Lawrence. Well, look, she... And look, that was the same reaction I had when I saw Anthony Albanese's answer, but do I think

Starting point is 00:52:41 that this should be dominating the news in Australia? No, I have a feeling my husband and wife duo on today's superstar panel might disagree. Neil Hamilton, of course, a former Tory minister, Christine Hamilton, his wife, a broadcaster and author. Neil, did you see anything wrong with Anthony Albanese answering that question? I mean, what was he meant to say to the woman? How inappropriate that you've asked me this. Let's just move on. Like, that's what po-faced woke people want him to say, right?

Starting point is 00:53:12 Well, he is a po-faced work person, isn't he? That's the irony. That's the irony. Christine, of course, have expected me to behave just like Albanese. We've had a few tiffs in our lives over similarly embarrassing moments, I'm afraid. I don't really have any sympathy with Albanese at all for the reason I just stated that he likes to play the left-wing part to his only. supporters and now he's trying to be blocish on a radio TV show or podcast whatever it was and i'm afraid he's paid the price of trying to be two things at the same time but um like i like you i don't

Starting point is 00:53:54 think it's a massive political issue i do think it demeans the office of prime minister for him to do something like that to be on put himself in that sort of position and it certainly was very poor political judgment on his part so uh you know i hope he um he gets all that he deserves Christine, were you offended? No, I wasn't offended in the slightest. I mean, to be honest, I think it's very funny. But what on earth is he doing going on a program with a woman who's dressed like that

Starting point is 00:54:24 and expecting to have, you know, and what did you have for breakfast or what is your policy for reviving the economic thing of this country or something? I mean, what did he expect? She was clearly, and apparently she said, I ask everybody this question. So why wasn't he prepared?

Starting point is 00:54:41 He should have been prepared. Silly fool, but, you know, I just think it's quite funny. Can you imagine Kea Starmer on a program like that? Now, that would be funny. Well, I would love to see his reaction. He doesn't know what a woman is, so he doesn't know what a woman is, does he say? And does he even want to shag them? Anyway, that is a whole other situation.

Starting point is 00:54:59 A shag is a very beautiful seabird. Oh, yes. I think it's the word, the word really annoys woketopians, actually. whereas I love it. I love the word because it's sort of, you know, it is a little bit naughty, isn't it, Christine? It's a bit of a naughty word, but it's not a swear word, you know?

Starting point is 00:55:19 No, it's not a swear word, as I said, it's a very beautiful, a shag is a very beautiful seabird. Or a form of tobacco. Oh, is it? Well, I don't know. Anyway, I mean, frankly, what an idiot going on a podcast like that when he, what are his people doing, saying you are going to be asked this question.

Starting point is 00:55:37 But they all do. this, don't they? Because it's all about being human. And what's interesting, when you look at this from a UK political context, I could see Andy Burnham, the incoming Prime Minister, wanting to do much more of this, because everything about Andy Burnham is like, because did you see Albaugh is just wearing like a t-shirt there? He's not wearing a suit. And Burnham's got this whole thing about his dark blue t-shirts and leaning into personality politics. But it only works up into a point, doesn't it, Neil? Because, okay, Andy Burnham might have a better personality than slippery Stama, but let's be honest. I mean, you know, exactly. Banana has a bit of personality than

Starting point is 00:56:17 slippery stammer. So it's a low bar, but actually that personality doesn't matter if the country is going to the dogs. And I know for a fact, having been to CPAC in Australia last year, where I gave one of the keynote speeches, that Australia is going to the dogs. His citizens are absolutely horrified about what he's doing to this country. So I don't think this is going to work for Albanesey and I don't think this type of approach will end up working for Burnham either. Like it might take him a little bit longer to become the most hated man in the country compared to Stama, but it will happen. Well, deep down, they're both shallow, aren't they? That's the whole point. This is pure artifice on their path. Now, let's get down with the lads

Starting point is 00:57:04 and be blocish, a bit of locker room talk doesn't do any harm, does it? But unfortunately, because as a lot of people on social media have learned, that it's not something that can be regarded as a private conversation. And so it'll come back and bite you on the bum, won't it if I'm allowed to use that word on a family program before the watershed. But it's, I think that these people deserve everything they get from trying to be something that they're actually not. And it's just a form of misrepresentation

Starting point is 00:57:36 where they're trying to be something that they can never be. And it's so obvious, isn't it? That's the point, that it's so transparent that all they do is make fools of themselves and they should realise that that's what's going to happen in these situations. Breaking right now, Prince Harry's darkest day

Starting point is 00:57:56 after a brutal courtroom defeat by the Daily Mail, the Duke of Delusion has tried to put a smile on his face as he leaves Chatham House and new footage with a thumbs up, with a thumbs up to try and suggest that everything is okay. When we know it is far from okay, because this 50 million pound defeat shatters his reputation, proves that he lied in court, dragged a whole other major group of celebrities into his pathetic game, and achieved nothing apart from wasting tens of millions of pounds. But this verdict has actually meant that another scandal has flown slightly under the radar.

Starting point is 00:58:53 So we're going to start with this. Nicole Lampett, ironically a top journalist for the Daily Mail revealing, as if Prince Harry's visit home to the UK wasn't controversial enough, his first visit was to support photographer friend Miss Anne Harriman. Harriman recently announced he was standing down as chair of the Southback Centre after controversy over alleged anti-Semitism and putting his politics front and centre. Harry was a star guest at the premiere of a hagiography about Harriman. And there is, sure enough, a whole load of...

Starting point is 00:59:29 of pictures of Harry at this highly controversial film Shoot the People. Now, Harriman is not a good guy, but the other issue for the royal family is that he is a guy on the hard left, and it proves why King Charles was absolutely right to lock Prince Harry out of Buckingham Palace for this visit. Because at the first night in Britain, when he was meant to be staying at Buckingham Palace, he attended the South Back Centre to see this film with Harriman wearing an anti-apartheid t-shirt. More on that shortly. But just a little bit of background on Harriman because it's very important. Last month he announced that he would step down from his role after becoming embroiled in controversy over remarks he made online that were reported by

Starting point is 01:00:27 the telegraph. These included a claim that news outlets had admitted a Muslim victim from coverage of attacks in Golders Green. Haremann had also come under fire for reposting a claim that Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner, who are Jewish, were selling off the Albanian coastline to Jewish billionaires and an Israeli military project. In May, he was accused of comparing Reform UK's local election success with the Holocaust. Harman's photographer, took off while covering the Black Lives Matter protests that erupted in the wake of the killing of George Floyd. And he has been friends with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex since, including photographing the couple for announcements during the COVID pandemic when they revealed to the world that they were expecting their daughter, Lilybet. And Tom Sykes of the Royalist, who is not a big political guy, has revealed why it is terrible.

Starting point is 01:01:27 that this was the first image that Prince Harry decided to release to the world of him having arrived back home in this storm of controversy. Because he said that this t-shirt, right, for the anti-apartheid club is not an organization. It is a slogan of the pro-Palestinian solidarity movement and has become a staple of Palestinian-themed clothing brands. which, of course, have been marketed with taglines like from South Africa to Palestine, we shall be free. And we know that that is a direct take on from the river to the sea. For Harriman, one of the most image literate activists in Britain to dress for the biggest photo call of the year in an anti-Israeli t-shirt is completely consistent with his brand. But for Harry, the author of a recent essay on the dangerous conflation of anti-Israel sentiment and anti-Jewish hatred

Starting point is 01:02:24 to stand beside him for pictures while he is wearing that is a special kind of stupid. Harriman took a black and white photograph of Harry and a pregnant Megan announcing they were expecting Lily and has functioned as a de facto official photography for the country ever since. But the optics of doing so publicly while he is wearing that t-shirt after all of the chaos in recent days

Starting point is 01:02:48 is to put it mildly crazy. All of this information about Harriman in the public domain yet Harry still decided this should be the first public appearance of the week. And a reminder that in May, Harry published a piece in the new statesman warning of a deeply troubling rise in anti-Semitism in Britain, arguing that British Jewish families were being made to feel unsafe in the country they call home, and cautioning that anguish over the devastation in Gaza and the wider Middle East was being dangerous, canily conflated with prejudice against Jews. It read as complimentary to his father's own visible outreach to Jewish.

Starting point is 01:03:24 communities. So this guy, Prince Harry, right, is just a disaster. He's a total embarrassment. And this verdict, Neil and Christine Hamilton, I believe, should see him thrust out of the royal family officially. I think he should lose his title. I think his reputation has been shattered. I think after warning after warning, he ended up perjuring himself in court. And Harry is just increasingly, Christine, becoming a huge embarrassment to King Charles, who I think was right to lock up Buckingham Palace and say, you're not coming anywhere near at this time, Sunshine. But I think he needs to say that that is going to be permanent, Christine, don't you?

Starting point is 01:04:15 Well, I think, I mean, you've got a, King Charles. is a father who's in inverted commas lost his son and can't see his grandchildren, all that sort of thing. So you've got to feel sympathy for that. But I mean, honestly, Harry should have been stripped of God knows what ages ago. His behaviour has been absolutely appalling. He doesn't care. He clearly doesn't. He pretends to, but he doesn't care much for his father's feelings and the rest of his family. And William, of course, has taken a very firm stand on this. But I mean, that photo call, I didn't know about that. So I've just learned it now from you. unbelievably stupid. I mean, we all know that he's the dumbest member of the royal family,

Starting point is 01:04:54 but I mean, how could, surely he's got people advising him. Surely people could say, hang on a minute, you're in trouble anyway. You're probably about to lose this case against the male tomorrow, and now today, but this was, for goodness sake, you know, go to a wimpy bar or something. Don't, don't go to that highly controversial and be photographed with that highly controversial man. He's lost his marbles. I mean, I love that phrase. That guano crazy. I must remember that. He has, hasn't he, Neil? He's just lost it.

Starting point is 01:05:27 And unfortunately, Neil, and I do understand what Christine is saying, we of course have to remember that King Charles is a man with terminal cancer, and he's trying to forge some type of relationship with his two grandchildren, who at this point will have no recollection of ever having met their granddad, who is king. That is obviously deeply sad, but I'm sorry, Neil, sometimes royals have to make tough calls, and sometimes they have to put the institution and the country ahead of their own personal relationships. We saw it with the late Queen Elizabeth II.

Starting point is 01:06:00 Do you remember when she stripped Andrew, Mountbatten Windsor, of all of his titles? And that was a devastating decision for her. He was her favourite son, believe it or not. He was. So I just feel Charles has to do the right thing now, and it can't, there can't be a next time. This court case is just so damaging, Neil. He lied in court. You know, it just can't go on. He's got to be off the royal website. There has to be some type of ending now because it feels like Harry just gets worse and worse and more manipulative, Neil, and also critically, more political. You know, he is leaning into what I would describe as the nutty hard left in America. And that is dangerous. It's a dangerous. dangerous path. Now, I do feel very sorry for the king because, you know, Harry is the prodigal son, but he's

Starting point is 01:06:55 returned far too early. In fact, he should never return, in my view, given his appalling behavior towards his own family. And it's utterly disgraceful that he is denying his children the opportunity to get to know their grandfather. I think in family terms, it is a most cruel way for Harry to behave. We know that his principal PR advisor, of course, is the Duchess of Darkness with whom he lives. And she'll be ramping it up behind the scenes.

Starting point is 01:07:29 Oh, and what a great job she's doing, Neil. He can't see a cowpath with wanting to step in it, or indeed to jump into it. This is the tragedy. He is an absolute ocean-going 10-watt bulb, isn't he? he just doesn't have the common sense, let alone intelligence, to see where his best interests lie. The serial litigation that he's entered into, you know, I'm on his side to an extent, nobody in their right mind supports phone hacking and things like that. No.

Starting point is 01:08:04 We've been the victims of it ourselves, and actually we've taken money from Reuben Murdoch. Good. It was appalling, it was disgusting, but it wasn't being done against him at the mail. That's the point. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And he allowed David Sherbourne, you know, the slippery lawyer, to just convince him of a conspiracy that, remember, it's just important to point out,

Starting point is 01:08:27 this was driven by criminals, you know, criminal phone hackers and investigators and everything involved in byline times and hacked off, you know, Max Mosley's money, Hugh Grant's campaigning. And he convinced himself via David Sherbourne that all of this had had. happened to it had never happened. It was a fantasy. But before we come to that, I do just, you've, you've raised the point of the children. And Christine, there's something really horrible that is going on with the children because, you know, Buckingham Palace now just accepts as fact that Prince Harry is emotionally trying to blackmail King Charles. But actually, this new report from the Daily Mail made me believe that there's also some weird sort of manipulation going on with Harry and

Starting point is 01:09:13 Megan and the children. And just hear me out because you've got to listen to the friends that the Daily Mail is quoting to sort of really understand why what they're doing with the children, I think is pretty twisted. So this is a source close to Prince Harry telling the Daily Mail. Harry is really, really keen to bring the kids. He wants to ground them in the UK in their heritage and their family heritage. They need to see their grandfather and they need to understand more about where they come from. Their lack of knowledge of the UK is becoming apparent along with their lack of connection to it. And absolutely, like, that's terrible and that's something that Harry and Megan have created. The problem is that the children are just so excited about this visit. So here's

Starting point is 01:09:57 where it gets really twisted. They were told already some time ago that they are coming. And they are beside themselves with excitement. They have been hopping up and down about coming here. they are really excited about the trip. They have been talking about it for months. Harry and Megan have been telling them about the UK. Harry doesn't want to disappoint them. There's nothing from him to say either way at the moment for sure. But the feeling I get is that he will find a way to make it happen for them and the children in a way that everyone is happy with.

Starting point is 01:10:25 He will try to be the bigger person and bring them anyway. Now, I'm sorry, Christine, you don't play those games with young children. No. You don't tell them that you're bringing them to finally introduce them to these relatives who have been completely shut off from them as they live in some type of weird Montecito prison and then take that away from them because you're unhappy about security, which you were never going to receive. So I put it to you, Christine, that I don't think Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are just plain emotional manipulation with King Charles. I actually think they're doing it with their own children and I think that's particularly twisted.

Starting point is 01:11:07 honestly do. Absolutely. If that is true that the children were told some time ago that they're going to meet their grandfather, who happens to be Kig, and they'll have seen photographs of him, and they'll be really excited about that, if they were told all that, and then suddenly, because of Harry and Megan's appalling manipulation of the situation, it's all about them, them, then, then, then, isn't it? But if they have brought their children into it in this way, I would have hoped that they hadn't told the children that they might be going to England until they knew. definitely that they were going to. I mean, he's a, yes,

Starting point is 01:11:42 he is a thicko, but I think he's actually a thoroughly nasty person, frankly. I mean, the way he turned on the royal family in his book, whatever it was called spare part or something. He should have been called that. Well, it's short. Spare, there we are, spare. I knew I was half right. It is absolutely appalling.

Starting point is 01:12:00 And I have to say, I think it's rightfully funny that he was shut out of Buckingham Palace. I mean, I know it's undergoing renovation, but I mean, how many bedrooms must they have there? He was told, no, no, you can't come. Well, we've all had to suddenly make up a bed for somebody who's arrived unexpectedly, expectedly. So the idea...

Starting point is 01:12:15 Sometimes me at your house. Well, there you go. The idea that that wasn't possible, it was just so transparent. But I just think he's a, I'm afraid, I think she in particular is a thoroughly nasty piece of work. Well, they're trying to... Oh, sorry, Christine. Well, it's finished. Well, they're trying to sort of paint this picture now, though, of him being a great father, Harry, this is,

Starting point is 01:12:37 because the source went on to tell the Daily Mail, everything Harry does now is as a father, as a father, not as a prince. He wants his children to know his own father. He wants them to spend a period with him and the family. That will mean a number of days in private. Yes, the visit is about Invictors, but for months now, it has also been about the children.

Starting point is 01:12:58 They are the big motivating factor for the visit. And again, Christy, I just think, are you on something? Answer, yes. You know, we know that he's on legal drugs, Christine. I point out legal drugs, you know, legal psychedelics, legal marijuana, that type of thing. It's legal in California now. But you'd have to be, wouldn't you, to think that the royal family are going to allow in such toxicity and also such drama, Christine.

Starting point is 01:13:27 I mean, let's just take a look, by the way, while we're discussing this, at Catherine, the Princess of Wales and King Charles this week, who have just valiantly pressed on with their duties, you know, the real work of the royal family. This was Catherine at the Evelyn Children's Hospital. King Charles has been at the Tank Museum. And they are just so desperate to avoid the constant drama that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle bring into their lives. All I can say is thank God, and I really mean that, that William is the older son, and he is going to be the king one day,

Starting point is 01:14:05 and not this stupid footloose idiot. I know. Well, they are. I mean, Catherine, as far as I can see, has never put a foot wrong. I mean, just simply never. She just gets on with it. She's going to be a fantastic queen. How she, to be a fly on the wall, looking in on the conversations between Catherine and William,

Starting point is 01:14:25 I mean, if I was Catherine, I would be absolutely livid. I'd be throwing things around and goodness knows what about your ghastly evil brother. She's very composed in public, but I should think she's let rip in private. I hope she's let rip in private. Oh, gosh, look at that woman, Megan. Oh. Breaking right now, Christine, we have just received Prince Harry's pushback at this verdict. And it's worth listening to, yeah, you take a drink,

Starting point is 01:14:55 but I think the reason it's worth listening to, I mean, I've just had a very quick look at that moment. I'm going to read it at the same time with you, so we'll learn this together. But I think the fact that he just cannot admit. that he got this wrong and that he genuinely believes that there is some deep, dark conspiracy against him shows you that the man has lost the plot. So this statement has been released, and this makes me super sad, by the way, with Doreen Lawrence, who Harry dragged into this case. Remember Doreen Lawrence, people who don't know, her son, Stephen Lawrence, was brutally murdered in a racist attack. And actually, it was Paul Dacre in the Daily Mail who backed Doreen

Starting point is 01:15:35 Lawrence, who helped get the Stephen Lawrence killers convicted in some way, and he took a huge risk in doing so. And Harry has sort of destroyed that relationship. But look, this statement is just in. Of course, it is via Chris ship of Wokai TV, who has become a propagandist. And I just want to go through it with you, because reminder, Harry and every single celebrity lost on every count. There were over 90 counts in this case. And Justice Nick decided against Harry and the plaintiffs in every single one of them. This is Harry's statement. We came to court seeking justice and accountability, but we have received neither.

Starting point is 01:16:19 This judgment represents a complete reversal of the position which previous judges have taken in relation to the hacking claim successfully brought against both News Group newspapers and Mirror Group newspapers who were represented by at the time the judge who made this decision. So see there he's already suggesting there's he's. conspiracy. He's questioning the judge's motives. It's astonishing. Generic findings about various private investigators that were held by the courts in these parallel claims to have carried out unlawful activity at the very same time in relation to similar stories and well-known individuals have been wholly ignored. The fact that this court has chosen to dismiss them represents an

Starting point is 01:16:56 inconsistency which is hard to understand or reconcile with common sense or the evidence heard in the courtroom itself. It is a complete and utter whitewash, but sadly not all together unexpected. However, the lengths to which the court has gone to exonerate the mail is as shocking as it is totally unwarranted. When the court says there is not sufficient evidence of wrongdoing despite the document showing otherwise, then one does wonder how justice was ever going to be achieved. One need not look past when a private investigator for the mail. used actually admitted on tape to having unlawfully blacked Baroness Lawrence, or when a journalist recorded the name of the private investigator she used to find out

Starting point is 01:17:41 about highly sensitive medical information that even the mail was too worried to publish, or when another investigator emailed one of the journalists with the actual British Airway seat number and ticketing details for a young girl simply visiting her boyfriend in return for payment. It feels here like one rule for the newspapers and another for the claimants, While the claimants presented evidence, male journalists simply gave denials, and the court chose uncritically to believe them, even in the face of inconsistencies, contradictions, and blatant untruths that were obvious to neutral observers in court when compared to the documents. We presented to the court evidence, which we believe was compelling at the time and remained so now.

Starting point is 01:18:23 We would like to thank our legal team for all their hard work and all the witnesses who were brave enough to come forward in the pursuit of justice. So effectively, what Harry is saying there is this a conspiracy. And of course, that's completely nuts. Like we're talking about the most, one of the most privileged men in the world. There is no conspiracy against you, Prince Harry. And let me just remind you, there have been findings against newspapers that did break the law. And so there should be, I am disgusted by what The Daily Mirror did. I am disgusted by what News Group newspapers did. But you're looking to bring down the Daily Mail when there was never the evidence.

Starting point is 01:19:05 Now, before I get you to weigh in, I do want to bring you. We have on video now, Paul Decker, who is the editor-in-chief of the Daily Mail. He's a formidable man. And remember, he was editing the Daily Mail back in the 90s when guess who was one of his best contacts? Princess Diana, Harry's mother. So Harry always says, oh, he's doing this for his mother. No, Diana liked the Daily Mail. She disliked a lot of other newspapers.

Starting point is 01:19:37 She liked the Daily Mail. You'll remember there were even rumors that she was romancing Richard Kaye, who was the Royal correspondent for the Daily Mail. At the very least, they were very good friends. And so Paul Dacre, this is pretty unprecedented because he tends to be like the bloke behind the scenes, but he has now just released a video statement directly addressing Prince Harry. Four years ago, lawyers for Prince Harry, Dorian Lawrence and Elton John

Starting point is 01:20:05 accused the mail in a blaze of publicity of placing bugs in homes, cars, cafes and landline phones. We described those charges, some related to stories that were over 30 years old, as lurid and preposterous. Today, in what was a momentous victory for the male, the High Court dismissed every single one of the 97 claims. That is an overwhelming vindication of our journalism. The male's famous front page, naming five thugs as Stephen Lawrence's murderers, could have seen me jailed for contempt of court.

Starting point is 01:20:49 Instead, it triggered the Macpherson inquiry and the eventual jailing of two of the killers. Stephen's father, Neville, says he owes the mail everything. Why, Baroness Lawrence, for whom we have always had profound respect and sympathy, chose to turn on both the paper and the brilliant reporter who campaigned for justice for her son for over two decades, is something I will never be able to be able to. to comprehend. Prince Harry wrote a sad book which boasted about his killing of 25 Taliban, his drug-taking and in cringe-making detail how he lost his virginity. There isn't a laundry in the cosmos big enough to wash all the dirty linen he has aired about his own family. For him

Starting point is 01:21:43 to complain about his privacy being invaded takes not just the biscuit but the whole old tin. Poor Harry, I feel sorry for the way a confused and angry young man has been drawn into this case. The bitter irony is that his mother, Diana, likes the male. We were her paper. We took her side in her acrimonious break-up with Charles. She and I would speak and meet. The male's superb royal reporter was her friend and confidant. The truth is that this trumped-up act action, which has cost well over 50 million pounds and wasted a huge amount of valuable court time should never have been brought to trial. That it did raises profoundly disturbing questions about the conduct of elements of the legal profession. Today's verdict is not just a victory

Starting point is 01:22:42 for Associated as magnificent journalists, several of whom have had a terrible toll imposed on their health and lives, but a free press generally. Make no mistake, this was a conspiracy supported by Haktov to destroy a paper. Financed by the orgy-loving racist Max Mosley and involving the actor Hugh Grant, it was also a sinister bid to resuscitate Leveson II and impose statutory regulation on the press, which even now is rearing its ugly head in Labour's media green paper. Some of the allegations made by Harry's lawyers against the mail involved Peter Mandelson and Geoffrey Epstein. They were rejected by the court,

Starting point is 01:23:33 but to remember, it was the power of the mail's journalism that not once but twice resulted in Mandelson being sacked as a minister. And it was the Mail on Sunday's exclusive picture of Prince Andrew with his arm around 17-year-old Virginia Joufrey in Gie Lane Maxwell's home, that ultimately resulted in justice for Epstein's underage victims. Such justice only happened, as with Stephen Lawrence, because of the actions of a free press. Wow. Wow. I actually wanted to stay with all of that statement because it is so rare, Christine, to hear from Paul Dacre in that manner. And if you just take a look at that picture again, look at where, look at the front pages

Starting point is 01:24:26 that are behind him. So it's that famous front page on our left where he, where he put the pictures of the five white men accused of of killing Stephen Lawrence under the headline murderers. He could have gone to prison and then look to the far right there. and it's the male's coverage of Diana's death. I thought it was a very powerful statement, Christine. I thought it was astonishing. I mean, I was listening almost open-mouthed.

Starting point is 01:24:59 One thing he said that, and you're right, people should not underestimate the bravery that Dacre and the male exhibited by publishing that front page. You know, they were confident, but he could have gone. He could have gone to prison for, well, Neil will tell him. he's the lawyer for whatever it was. But they didn't, he went along with it bravely. But he said,

Starting point is 01:25:23 and I think I've understood him correctly, that in layman's terms, that Harry was basically, because he's stupid, led by the nose by lawyers. He should have been told by lawyers. I mean, 97, 97 counts were thrown

Starting point is 01:25:39 out, not one. Now, how could the lawyers have thought that he had any case at all? I mean, one would have to see the transcripts and goodness knows what, but every single one was thrown out. So who an earth was advising, Harry, and what was their motive? I wonder. Absolutely. And he is nominated by Neil as today's today's the worst Britain in the world today. Let's see if he's won. That was my nomination. Oh, was it yours? What is the wrong way round? That's my nomination. Oh, sorry. Okay, Christine.

Starting point is 01:26:11 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, it does matter because your husband and wife don't always think the same. Okay, so I'll get to the nominations in one moment. Just before we get there, though, I have to say, goodness me, the breaking news is coming thick and fast today, but we do have an update, okay, on this by-election. So now the Conservatives and the Labour Party, as well as Restore Britain, all saying that they will not stand in the by-election. neither will the liberal Democrats. So I think Neil, Christine and I are looking right. You know, this is turning into quite a farce.

Starting point is 01:26:53 Uploads Nigel. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now let's get to our feedback from you on this. Thank you for the super chat, by the way, Mr. Lard, Y.T, who says Jacob Rees-Mogg's comments are damage control. He is aligned with reform. and he says there is fraud and corruption going on here. Brian Hewson says Tommy Robinson has had the British Deep State doing this to his family for years.

Starting point is 01:27:23 Happy to help. S6Z or Z, I should say, sorry. It sounds like an exit strategy for Farage. Reform is another establishment controlled party. Restore, restore, restore. Mark Travels, 1-4 says Farage is purely doing this as a stunt to keep his face in the media. He needs parliamentary investigation to end over this five million pound investigation. But Johnny favourites his Farage's England's only hope. The rest work for the deep state or the

Starting point is 01:27:52 Tories. 012, do I, says we need a real man to take charge of the country who isn't scared to say what they think. The only real man is Rupert Lowe. I don't care what anyone says anymore. But GCP says they should leave Nigel's daughter alone if she's not in the public eye, I'm sure as a woman, it must have been scary for her. Not sure about Nigel, but I respect him for this stance. And MD3-4338 says what so many of us on the right hoped would be the case before Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf rewarded him to the police. Baraj and Lowe together would be amazing. They would be formidable. Okay, so a huge amount of comments coming in on the breaking news of the day. but a reminder of the Union Jackass nominations.

Starting point is 01:28:40 I'm sorry, it was Christine Hamilton who nominated Prince Harry for losing that verdict today. It doesn't matter. No, it does because one of us is going to win Christine, so it does matter. When Neil put forward Jordan Henderson, I afraid I had to say, who's he? So this is the England football player and he sort of broke his arm, didn't he, falling across the sign. It was like in a celebration. And I went for Beaf Rigby, not really necessarily fairly in this case,

Starting point is 01:29:07 but sort of because she's the face of Sly News. And I couldn't nominate Sly News. So I sort of thought, well, I'll go for Biff. Our Biff, because, you know, she's she's the face of Sly. Anyway, I'm sorry, Neil. You're the big loser today. Just 4% of the outspoken audience going for, going for Jordan Henderson. It's the first time I've lost.

Starting point is 01:29:31 Yeah, I'm sorry about that. And I am the runner up with Biff, Rigbyn, and 38% of the vote. but the overwhelming winner today, the worst Britain in the world today after this historic courtroom loss. It is Prince Harry. So Christine Hamilton, you get the win. Who wants to reveal who you've gone for as our greatest Britain today? Christine.

Starting point is 01:29:52 Oh, crumbs, yes. Who have we gone for? Katie Lamb, there she is. Katie Lamb, sorry, that's fine. Katie Lamb, because I think it was yesterday. It was her idea. No, this was my idea. It was only yesterday because it's Tuesday,

Starting point is 01:30:02 so it must have been yesterday. She made a brilliant speech in the House of Commons, advocating that this ghastly man whose name I won't even mention, let's just call him the Rochdale rapist, should be deported. We've been putting him up at his majesty's pleasure at enormous expense for God knows how long. He's out of prison now, which is an appalling thing to have happened in the first place,

Starting point is 01:30:22 and he should be chucked out of the country. And she was brilliant. She was absolutely brilliant in the House of Commons. So that's why I put her forward. Good choice. Christine Hamilton. We put her forward. Sorry. We, the Hamilton's. The Hamilton's exactly.

Starting point is 01:30:34 Christine and Neil Hamilton, our husband, and wife's superstar panel duo. I always love having you here, but especially on such a big day of breaking news. Nigel Farage, resigning as an MP, Prince Harry, having his ass handed to him by the Daily Mail, that eviscerating statement from Paul Daker. Today's show has had it all.

Starting point is 01:30:53 And thank you so much for being here. That's before you even get to the whole Shaggate thing with Anthony Albanese. But anyway, we will move on from that. I promise you I'm not going to be talking about shagging again on this show, at least not for a while. We're going to have much more discussion. Russian now over on Substack about this court verdict,

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Dan Wootton Outspoken - NIGEL FARAGE RESIGNS AS MP FOR CLACTON & FORCES BY-ELECTION AFTER ON CAMERA CLASH WITH SKY NEWS

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