Dan Wootton Outspoken - NIGEL FARAGE TO WIN LOCAL ELECTIONS IN MAY, NUMBER 10 PREDICTS, AS SCANDAL STARMER PANICS

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

Keir Starmer has entered full on panic mode, slamming populists during a dire speech at today’s UK Investment Summit, as sources close to the Prime Minister predict a surging Nigel Farage and Reform... UK will WIN May’s local elections. In his Digest, Dan explains why Labour’s disastrous first 100 days and complete failure to even try and stop the boats spells doom for Scandal Starmer and a huge opportunity for Farage. Then his special guest, UKIP Chairman Ben Walker, weighs in during the Uncancelled Interview. PLUS: Carol Vorderman is out at LBC, as the left-wing station struggles to adapt to Starmer in power AND: Straight and married Jeremy Vine shocks with bizarre high heels routine within the BBC offices To watch the exclusive Uncancelled After Show for 30-minutes extra content EVERY weekday, sign up at: https://outspoken.live/premium Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:06:51 Starmer and a huge opportunity for Farage, who is dropping more truth bombs about the invasion of the UK. On his face, a tattoo that looks like a Kalashnikov. I would suggest to you that's a pretty aggressive symbol, not the kind of tattoo that most people get. Now you'll notice that the flag at the top of this social media clip that he's posted has France where he is now and there's a Union Jack. That tells you where he wants to get to. So they're in a camp in northern France, partying like crazy, in very high spirits.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And basically, this is going out on social media. He's telling the world he's about to attempt an illegal crossing of the English Channel, and it's party time. But where does Nigel's former party, UKIP, which has welcomed in supporters of Katie Hopkins and Nigel Farage, where do they stand on the political scene? I'm delighted to say that the party's chairman, Ben Walker, joins me for the uncancelled interview today.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Also coming up, Carol Vorderman out at LBC as the left-wing station struggles to adapt to Starmer in power. I'm very fed up about it, but I have made the decision that I can no longer do my Sunday show on LBC, which is a very hard decision to come to. Do you believe it was her choice? Because I don't. I'll tell you what I know later. And straight, married, Jeremy Vine, jocks with a bizarre high heels routine within the BBC offices? Box office sweetie, an Oscar nominee.
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Starting point is 00:09:35 It's panic stations, folks. Scandal Starmer, whose first 100 days has been the biggest political disaster in modern British history, and a man who is obsessed with ensuring the MSM doesn't reveal his big secrets is facing an electoral disaster. Starmer's own allies told the Sunday Times yesterday that they are worried, and I think they'll worry for good reason, that Reform UK will overtake Labour by the time of May's local elections. They know a political tsunami led by Nigel Farage is coming as the silenced majority rise up. And that isn't hyperbole, folks. Starmer is now the most unpopular prime minister in history after 100 days in office.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And more in common, have become the first poll to not show a Labour lead since March 2022. Responding to that bombshell result, Reform UK chairman Zia Youssef posted on X, Reform surges to new all-time highs in the polls. Winning support from Labour and Tories, Reform has all the momentum in British politics and is about to shift gears. Farage ally Aaron Banks, one of the bad boys of Brexit, added, reform only needs two points from Labour and Tories to draw level. Leading a national poll is within reach for reform soon. But yet again, at today's investment summit,
Starting point is 00:11:01 the uninspiring Starmer, and that's an understatement, was trying to dismiss our concerns as populism, as if that somehow takes away from the destruction of this country. We live in an age when political fires rage across the world. Conflict, insecurity, a populist mood that rails against the open values so many of us hold dear. Values which, as you know, are so crucial for making business easy to do. So it's clear he's terrified about what's coming and the anger we all feel hence why he keeps using this populist bogeyman but this is his record so far how much can you get done in a hundred days quite a lot here are just a few of the things our amazing new labor government has achieved since the 5th of july one we voted to strip millions of pensioners of their winter fuel allowance and voted to cover up the impact so we have no idea how pensioners will be affected.
Starting point is 00:12:08 2. We've taken hundreds of thousands of pounds of freebies from donors for new glasses, clothes, football matches and Taylor Swift tickets. 3. We've talked down the British economy and destroyed consumer confidence. 4. Your energy bills have gone up and we're no longer promising to cut your bills by £300. 5. Your energy bills have gone up, and we're no longer promising to cut your bills by £300. 5. We've made Labour voters for life by releasing thousands of prisoners from jail and onto our streets. Some of them have even already gone on to re-offend. 6. Our plan to smash the gangs has led to the highest number of illegal migrants crossing the channel in a single day in 2024. Seven, an infighting has forced Keir Starmer to sack Sue Gray after only a few months in the job.
Starting point is 00:12:51 That's Labour's first 100 days. Change for the worse. And of course, the invasion of the UK via the channel gets worse by the day, with seemingly no way for Starmer to smash the gangs. Indeed, Labour, or maybe I should call them Libre, is going to agree a six-year contract worth £521 million to manage two migrant processing sites in Kent. And as Guido Fawkes pointed out, classic instance where what they say in public and what they expect in private are very different. Labour and government don't expect to smash the gangs. In reality, they plan on the basis that the boats keep coming no change. So all of this provides such an
Starting point is 00:13:41 opportunity to Farage who isn't backing away from this issue. Is this the kind of person we want to come and live in our country? Is this the kind of person you would like to move in next to you? The guy's name is Madapasa. He's been living in Stockholm. He clearly wants to be a big star on TikTok, on social media. He wants to become an influencer. And perhaps he thinks his chances are better coming to the United Kingdom and doing it here. Let's start off with a clip of him in Stockholm.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So here he is, surrounded by young women, boastful, we would probably think generally making a bit of a fool of himself. As to how old those females are around him, I wouldn't really like to speculate. But before you know it, Madapassar is there with a group of young men, and guess where they are? They are travelling. They are on their way from Stockholm through Northern Europe. And at the minute, they're passing through Germany. And you can tell from the noise that's going on, they are in a highly excitable state. No prizes for guessing where they're headed to. So they're camping en route. They've got their fire going, their tent up.
Starting point is 00:15:03 They're making a series of exceptionally aggressive images. You might notice on his face a tattoo that looks like a Kalashnikov. I would suggest to you that's a pretty aggressive symbol, not the kind of tattoo that most people get. Now you'll notice that the flag at the top of this social media clip that he's posted has France, where he is now now and there's a Union Jack. That tells you where he wants to get to. So they're in a camp in northern France, partying like crazy, in very high spirits. And basically this is going out on social media. He's telling the world he's about to attempt an illegal crossing of the English Channel
Starting point is 00:15:44 and it's party time good on Farage for continuing to point out this madness as I have by the way we've both been doing it since uh 2020 but Farage is doing something I'm not at the moment he is waging a war with the conservative leadership contender Robert Jenner. Writing on X, 471 illegals crossed the channel yesterday and now the government is giving out six-year contracts worth £521 million for processing centres. Starmer has no intention of stopping the boats. Politico now reports Jenrick is a hypocrite who was planning these long-term contracts to process channel migrants whilst he was in government, don't believe a word that he says on anything. So you can see Farage is
Starting point is 00:16:32 going for Jenrick because he is now outflanking Nigel on the right on that key issue of mass deportations, which I actually think will see Jenrick win versus Kemi Badenoch. And this is a very popular position. Of course, UKIP's first MP, Douglas Carswell, wrote, pleased to see mass deportation become mainstream policy in the West, integrate or leave. World by Wolf added reform and farrage will become irrelevant under Robert Jenrick. The right will be united under his leadership at the next election. And our superstar panelist, Connor Tomlinson, wrote, Conservative contender Robert Jenrick has pledged to deport all illegal immigrants in the UK.
Starting point is 00:17:19 That's well over a million foreign criminals. We can debate whether or not the tarnished credibility of the Tory party makes it possible for Generic to deliver this promise, but this is a strong statement of intent to reject the pro-immigration consensus of both parties since 1997. This should light a fire underneath Reform UK, who just last month categorically ruled out a commitment to mass deportation as the most popular policy for its base. If reform want to continue to take votes from both conservatives and Labour, it must take care and recognise that Jenner could win the right-wing's arms race and render them obsolete. So perhaps the big question is whether we can trust Jenner, who has pledged over the weekend to make Jacob Rees-Mogg party chairman remember
Starting point is 00:18:06 Rees-Mogg is a man who has advocated openly for a merge of the Tories and Reform UK but one member of the shadow cabinet told the i newspaper this weekend that they had assurances general would rein in his right-wing polemic if elected elected leader. Which again, leaves it all to play for for Nigel Varage on his march to number 10. But where does his old party UKIP stand? Let's find out now in our uncancelled interview. And I'm delighted to be joined today by the chairman of the aforementioned United Kingdom Independence Party, better known as UKIP, Ben Walker. He is a former Royal Navy veteran and businessman. So Ben, great to have you here. Obviously lots to unpack there. But first up, where does UKIP stand right now on Reform UK? Because Farage is your former leader. There's lots of policy crossover.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Do you support what he's doing or are you in full on competition with him? Well, hi, Dan. Firstly, can I just say congratulations on the figures? That's absolutely outstanding. Thank you, Vin. I'll tip my hat to you. You are a legend in your own boots. So good work. I'm really pleased to hear that.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I very much appreciate that. Thank you. So, sorry. Yeah, I mean, to answer your question, I mean, of course we're supportive of what Farage and Reform are trying to do and say. I guess there is an issue for us in terms, yes, we are ultimately in competition with them.
Starting point is 00:19:52 What you won't know is we're going through and we are actually sort of rewriting or have rewritten our manifesto, which is currently being proofread and all that sort of jive. So we're actually going down a very, very radical road at the moment. We're going to say those things, the politically unsayable things that maybe even reform are going to struggle to wrap their lips around. But we're the only party really at the moment
Starting point is 00:20:22 which are fully committed to deportations. And I'm kind of glad that Douglas Carswell has said that, And we're the only party really at the moment which are fully committed to deportations. And I'm kind of glad that Douglas Carswell has said that. But we have been saying it for a while. And that is the only way you are going to deal with the problems that the UK faces right now. It's deportations, deportations and deportations. And I would, as Generic says, I wouldn't stop at a million. I mean, that's not enough. Any illegal here. There is currently, you know, one illegal for every hundred people in this country. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:06 They are illegal. They need to be gone. It's as simple as that. You know, there is a massive erosion of our very culture at the moment. A raid of knots that nobody has ever seen. And that simply cannot continue no i couldn't agree more actually and i guess the other big change that you've made and maybe this is a radical one but you can explain it to me and exactly what it means is that in the past certainly under farage ukip was not interested in tommy robinson supporters and wasn't particularly interested in figures like Katie Hopkins. You've gone totally the other way now and you say, Katie Hopkins, you may not be welcome in Reform UK, but you're welcome in UKIP. And you're also, I believe,
Starting point is 00:21:37 opening your arms to supporters of Tommy Robinson who, we have to be honest about this, are not welcome in Reform UK. I'll be honest as well. I mean, it's always been a difficult debate for us ever since kind of, I don't know, way back when in 2015 when Farage was still very much involved.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I mean, we have to be honest and recognise that these people, these patriots, they are our core base. They are our voters. And they're not bad people at all. These are people that just believe in the country. They're not far right. They're just right so far. You know, we've got to give these people a home. And in all fairness as well, AT had just a few years ago. So Farage has got sort of blood on his hands, if you like, a little when he decided he was going to leave that created a huge problem for us because there was no natural successor there was
Starting point is 00:22:53 no uh evident sort of talent within the party who could drive the debate forward and we lost our way and I think now we're very much finding that uh we very much want to be a home for not only Katie and Tommy, if you like, but the people that support their views and their arguments. They are valid arguments. They shouldn't be shied away from and they've got to be talked about and debated. And I think that, yeah, you know, reform and missing the trick there, but I'm kind of happy about that. It gives you an opportunity. Would you consider offering Tommy Robinson the leadership of reform? I'm sorry, of UKIP? Yeah, I've got no say in it,
Starting point is 00:23:40 or no kind of play in the game. I've already been slipped. That's fine. Hey, that's a very difficult thing for me to say. He's not a member. I certainly don't want to speculate. But what I would say is that we have a fantastic leader or interim leader at the moment in Nick Tancone,
Starting point is 00:23:59 who is really pivotal in the change of direction for us. He's recognised the gaps in the market and he's basically steering UKIP down that policy path where he knows that there are arguments that need shouting aloud about from the rooftops. And that's exactly what we're going to start to do. Do you know what? I have been very impressed by Nick, actually.
Starting point is 00:24:21 He's been a guest on Outspoken and I think he's saying and doing absolutely the right things. But I guess the big question that a lot of folk will have about UKIP, because as you know, Ben, I was also a really big fan of your former leader, Neil Hamilton, too. I mean, you have really brilliant people under the UKIP umbrella. But are you a pressure group? Are you a group that is trying to change the political discussion, shift that Overton window, I guess? So, for example, try and push Reform UK and the Conservatives
Starting point is 00:24:57 towards more right-wing policies, including mass deportations, or do you genuinely want to win seats at the next general election uh question to be honest and it's probably both uh so we definitely want to win seats at the next election and we are going to be targeting campaigns so we've performed that the first past the post system albeit is uh you know-forth, and you can actually get people elected. So, yes, we very much want to do the same in 2029. In terms of where do we see ourselves fitting in the political picture, that's a difficult one because there's lots of moving parts
Starting point is 00:25:42 which are out of our control. So I guess we want to win seats. But yes, we definitely want to affect and drive the debate, too, which UKIP's done so effectively before. I mean, as you know, you know, there would have been no Brexit referendum if it weren't for activists who were burning up their shacks and knocking down the wall and fighting for their freedom. So we want to drive that debate and I think we can. Whether that be against a Tory party or whether it be reform, who knows?
Starting point is 00:26:14 But, you know, from small acorns big trees grow and that's where we want to go again. We want to drive with this new radical approach and really put the pressure on and hold our politicians' feet to the fire indeed indeed look we're just going to try and improve the quality of your line ben walker so stand by while we do that but in the meantime i just want to show you the labour mp nadia whitton
Starting point is 00:26:41 who is making some absolutely crazy comments about getting rid of the Wethersfield camp where of course lots of illegals currently hold up and why I think this is really interesting even though she's on the left of Labour this shows you the sort of pressure Starmer is going to come under from his own MPs. without appropriate services. There isn't even a shop nearby. The site is surrounded by barbed wire and near a live firing range. Lots of people held here have been through traumatic experiences at the hands of the military in their country or on their journey here. Being held here is re-traumatising. The men say it feels like a prison. There's a huge mental health crisis here with many suicide attempts and instances of self-harm.
Starting point is 00:27:49 The government has already committed to shut down the Bibby Stock Home. It's time to close all large sites, like Wethersfield. Instead, we need an asylum system with compassion at its heart, safe routes so people aren't forced to make dangerous channel crossings and proper support to rebuild their lives. There is nothing compassionate about that woman. That woman is insane because of what she is suggesting. Shut down all sites. Do you know what that means? The illegal migrants in your community i mean this is already happening it's called operation scatter you won't hear anyone in the mainstream media or the government talk about it because it's going on the idea is to spread out the illegals into every
Starting point is 00:28:37 community so that you have no idea where they are and let's be honest we know that many of the people flooding in are terrorists are rapists are criminals some are even murderers and she wants them in your community this is a dangerous policy but trust me it is what the left of labor think and labor have proven that they have no real intention of stopping the boats they certainly have no ability to smash the gangs and that is what we are facing so this is why i think the opportunity for nigel is huge but of course mass deportations are necessary for that to happen by the way uh just to sum up how terrible starmer has been as leader. I love this from, you know, he's one of my favourite comedians, Andrew Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Public can trust us to deliver on our promises because we never made any in the first place. I did say I was going to smash the illegal migrant smuggling gangs and I've not made any progress on that because I've been very busy organising Sue Gray's generous severance package and shopping for clothes with money from Lord Ali. But let me be absolutely clear if you think things are bad right now just wait until Rachel Reeves announces her first budget at the end of this month. Prepare to have your pockets emptied. Change is coming. My father was a toolmaker. I'm out of my depth. I'm on the cusp of a breakdown. All donations welcome. Cash preferred. Breaking right now, the Labour Party,
Starting point is 00:30:15 King Charles, and most significantly, our Foreign Secretary, Looney Lammy, are opening the doors for the UK to pay an astonishing minimum 200 billion pound reparation compensation because of our role in the slave trade now this is an amount by the way 200 million pounds that is a a very light estimate indeed some of the estimates go up to trillion this is because a group of 15 Caribbean governments has unanimously agreed to put slavery reparations on the table at the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting attended by Charles in Samoa. It's been led by the a couple of years ago. And here's a reminder of why Lumi Lani is so devastating to have in post during such sensitive discussions. I'm afraid as Caribbean people, we are not going to forget our history. We don't just want to hear an apology.
Starting point is 00:31:35 We want reparation. As Caribbean people. That's our foreign secretary, the British foreign secretary, Ben Walker, chairman of UKIP back now. Ben, this is an incredibly slippery slope, isn't it? And unfortunately, even though I think King Charles has done a very good job since taking the throne, his wokery did in part open the door up to this. And it's a very unwise thing for the royal family to be even considering.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Because as soon as you open the doors up to reparations, you also open the doors up to the royal family itself being abolished. Yeah, where does it stop? That's the problem, isn't it? We could all make a case for reparations of some sort. You know, what about the Irish who were getting sort of ripped away from their island by the Romans and stuff like that and made eunuchs? I mean, we could just keep going. And you're right, unfortunately for Charles, his wokery precedes him.
Starting point is 00:32:39 So he has a difficult hand to play with our good friend there, Mr. Lammy. I mean, the guy is just fundamentally a racist. There's no two ways about it. He is stoking division within our country. And that is not the way that I would see a secretary of state or wish to see one acting. He is he is he's bad news. And actually and actually i mean if you go one step further this is a guy who's got um he has two passports um he's got a garnian passport as well i mean is that is that what you'd expect i don't know i mean there's so many questions i mean there's um i mean just in labor you know within our labor insidious labor government i've got a word i
Starting point is 00:33:23 like to share with you dan Dan. I love this word. It's a 17th century word, right? And it's called spuddle. Now, to spuddle is to work ineffectively. This is new for me. Sorry? It's new for me. So go on.
Starting point is 00:33:34 What's the definition? So spuddle is to work ineffectively, to be extremely busy whilst achieving absolutely nothing. And I think it sums them up. You know, they're giving it all the talk and all the rhetoric whilst really they're achieving absolutely nothing apart from really stoking up division
Starting point is 00:33:53 and then trying to cloak that with saying, well, you know, you've got to watch out for the far right and all this populism because it's bad news. I mean, they really, really are tearing the heart from this country. You know, the broken heart that was barely beating in the first place. But they are firmly stamping on that now.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah, completely. That's a really good analogy, actually, beating on our broken heart without any doubt. The problem with the reparation debate, though, too, Ben, is that it's one of those cases of you give an inch and they're going to take a mile. So these are extremists. And we have to just going to take a mile. So these are extremists. And we have to just be very honest about the fact that they are extremists. So Mia Motley, for example, who is the prime minister of Barbados, has been meeting the king earlier this month, praising the fact that Charles declared two years ago that slavery is a, quote,
Starting point is 00:34:44 conversation whose time has come. And that's the risk, isn't it? Because we're never going to appease her. I mean, at the moment, Ben, we can't even afford, according to Labour, the winter fuel bill for our pensioners, some of them World War II heroes who gave everything to this country. And if you listen to extremists like Mia Motley, the Barbados Prime Minister, we could be having to pay out up to 19 trillion pounds. That figure, by the way, was cited last year by the UN judge Patrick Robinson, who actually called it an underestimation of the damage caused by the slave trade. So
Starting point is 00:35:33 these people are mad. They are completely mad. They want to bankrupt us morally and financially. And I would say, Charles, do not invite this woman in to Buckingham Palace you're giving her so much rope in which she wants to hang us with oh you're absolutely right and you know we we'll never fathom exactly why uh Charles has taken that move but uh you know the 300 quid I mean that that is essentially that's a political attack on the pensioners. And I know you've said things like that before. But then when we look at what Labour have done for the bus, sorry, the train drivers, if those guys work a five day week, they get a 300 pound bonus anyway. So it's completely mad what's going on with the
Starting point is 00:36:20 repatriations. You're right. That's never going to stop um and and you know our country was instrumental in stopping the slave trade you know sailors that went before me almost 2 000 of them died they paid with their lives trying to stop that trade and effectively did um so of course i i understand that some people went through some absolutely awful situations pertaining to that, that kind of, you know, that business. But where do you stop? And this is the issue. And you're never, like you quite rightly say, never going to please these people. So can we not just draw a line under it and try and move forward in a positive manner instead of trying to bankrupt this country even more than it already is of course of course and and look
Starting point is 00:37:09 it's over 200 years ago that we abolished slavery should we not just be so proud of that i feel absolutely no shame i think that uh the british empire did so much good for the world, and I absolutely celebrate it. And of course, I'm someone that was born in a British colony, New Zealand. Actually, if New Zealand had never been colonized by the English and become part of the British Empire, I shudder to think what a backward society that would have been. Now, that may not be a popular thing to say, but I'm sorry, that is the reality because New Zealand, before the British Empire took over, was effectively a tribal system with no development whatsoever. But even more than that,
Starting point is 00:37:59 what I think is so shocking about these types of woke arguments is where it ends because no one on this planet today was directly impacted by slavery and if you open the door up to start saying reparations are deserved by people whose ancestors were somehow affected by it well okay what about uh gay people for example and i feel very comfortable on this front, given I fall into that grouping, Ben. But what about gay people? Should we all be compensated because a generation ago it was illegal to be gay?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Of course we shouldn't. Move on. Just move on. I mean, you know, the UK generally has a che chequered history but if you were to look at any of the countries that it's it's had something to do with they are generally left in a better position than they started that is a fact i mean if you look at some of the countries that france colonized well they definitely didn't end up in a better state. So New Zealand is an absolute success story. And you're quite right.
Starting point is 00:39:07 You know, we could take this argument and sort of use it across all kind of different sectors, people, communities, whatever. But it just has to stop. We have to move forward because there are bigger fish to fry, unfortunately. I mean, I grew up in a working class area. I didn't have any special opportunities. I had to work for what I've got.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And I look at images from, you know, the Second World War, you know, Londoners crawling around in rubble, rationing for years. Where was their where was their opportunity? They worked for it. You know, let's let's stop playing the whole victimhood card. We've all got our backstories. Let's just get on with the job and make this country great again. Totally. Stop apologizing for our past, because actually we've done far more positive things than harm. That is the reality. And the reparation debate is leading nowhere. I believe it's a woke trap. Because the thing is, if you actually look at what wokery is, and I had Ayaan Hirsi Ali on the other day, a brilliant woman, to talk about this, Ben. But wokery is actually all about
Starting point is 00:40:18 destroying the West. It's about destroying white men in particular. And remember, white men have so much to be proud of in terms of why we're here and why we're strong as a nation today. Absolutely right. We should all be proud of what we do, what we have done, what we've achieved and what we'll continue to do. And Wokery is exactly that. And the problem with life as we know it these days is that we are so busy fighting many fires on every front that we just can't get behind any one cause. And you're right, you know, this stuff is by design.
Starting point is 00:40:59 It's by design. It winds people up. It lets them focus on one thing while something else is going on. And they literally cannot concentrate their firepower on one thing and make things good. They're literally buzzing around, fighting all over the place and getting stressed out against absolutely everything. So Wokery has a lot to answer for. But you're right. It's a weapon deployed by the left quite effectively as well. And it's ingrained.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And we really need to work hard at rooting that out of our system now. And it starts with the establishment. It starts with schools. It starts with the unis, all of those things, because it's ingrained. And it is a cancer. It is. She actually used that word. It is a cancer.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Wokery is a cancer. She believes, actually, it's the most dangerous ideology existing in the world today i think there's some debate uh from my point of view about whether it's wokery or extreme islam but the point is uh both are working together at the moment and that is really disturbing but look breaking right now carol vorderman, out at LBC, or as I now call it, the Labour Broadcasting Company. She's trying to spin this as her own decision, writing on X, hello, I've got some news to share with you.
Starting point is 00:42:14 After working seven day weeks, for as long as I can remember, I finally burned out just over two weeks ago and I ended up in hospital overnight. After many scans, we know that i don't have any underlying health issues whatsoever you know what i'm aware of ms vorderman's work she also doesn't have a full-time job apart from posting lots of horrendous messages on x about anyone who isn't on the hard left so this is spin to me this is media spin carol warnerman was reaching the end of her one-year deal and my feeling would be they probably didn't want her back because she is becoming more and more extreme and alienating more and more ordinary brits but this is how she tried to justify her decision to leave LBC.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But my family have given me a good talking to, so have my friends, and have said, no more seven-day working weeks. So, very, very sadly, something had to go. And I'm very fed up about it, but I have made the decision Roedd rhywbeth yn rhaid i mi fynd i mewn. Rwy'n ddiolch iawn am hynny, ond rwy wedi gwneud y penderfyniad bod modd i ddim fwy na gwneud fy swnedig ar LBC,
Starting point is 00:43:34 sef penderfyniad anodd iawn i ddod i mewn. Ond doeddwn i ddim yn gallu gweld unrhyw beth arall y gallwn i'w wneud, dyna'r gwirionedd. Felly, rwy'n parhau i fod yn rhan o'r teulu LBC ac rydw i'n dod i mewn o'r amser i'r amser ond rwy'n hoff i ddweud diolch i chi am y cymorth yma dros y flwyddyn diwethaf ac mae wedi bod yn wych a'r cyfrifion a'r holl bethau And it's been fantastic and the ratings and everything have been fantastic. So thank you very much. It's just one of those things. And I'm very sad about it. But I shall be continuing to make mischief, but just not seven days a week in the future.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Mwah! Something fishy there. This is how Katie Hopkins responded. seven days a week in the future. Something fishy there. This is how Katie Hopkins responded. In other news, Carol Vorderman steps down from my LBC show because she says she's exhausted after working seven days a week that she had to be hospitalised with exhaustion. I mean, it's not that hard doing radio, is it, love? It's not, you know, changing beds as a cleaner in a hotel room. If you don't want the job, I'll certainly have it back because someone needs to get in there and break up the cabal
Starting point is 00:44:53 of James O'Brien and Fatty Fogarty. Could it be that now you've seen what Labour are actually like, you don't want to face the music? Well, well, well. Ben Walk, what do you make of this? Because I find it very hard to believe that Vorderman has just walked away from that job. But isn't the bigger point that actually
Starting point is 00:45:16 LBC is now such a letdown? It used to be a station of the people and in fact now not only is it a station of the left, even when it a gestation of the left, even when it comes to folk on the left, it engages in cancel culture all the time, because Sangeeta Miska was also booted off. Yeah, I think you and Katie both have a point here. I think this has a lot to do with her contract coming to the end and the fact that she can't answer for the thing that she worked so hard to get elected.
Starting point is 00:45:48 My heart pumps purple piss for her. Like you, Dan, I, you know, I've worked seven days a week for goodness how long. I couldn't even tell you. I'm pretty sure that she doesn't really understand what a hard day's work is like. As Katie quite rightly said, you know, go work on a building site, go work as a cleaner, then maybe you'll understand. So what I would say is,
Starting point is 00:46:11 in good news, I suppose, I would like to recommend or nominate her for an NCA because that performance was outstanding. I mean, she was very, very good there. So I'll be to hospital, but everything's fine, but I'm going to leave my job oh what rubbish and
Starting point is 00:46:26 the thing is right she deserves no kid glove treatment does she because vorderman has become deranged ben the way that she attacks anyone who is on the center right is unhinged oh absolutely unhinged. It was difficult, actually, with that video, because I wasn't sure if she was genuinely upset or happy, because I couldn't see if her face was moving. Oh, you never can? No, no, you just don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:57 But you're right. I mean, she holds, or she basically pulls no punches when she's going for someone who she doesn't agree with politically or whatever um so i i really don't feel anything for her i i'm sick of the the upset little videos and tweets it's just you know go away what's wrong with you just do one nobody really wants to listen to you anyway so job done and what i what's the LBC family anyway? That sounds horrid. Like, what is that? Some sort of weird thing going on at LBC that we don't know about yet?
Starting point is 00:47:30 Well, to be honest, I'd compare them to the Addams family because that is a very spooky bunch. But what's so funny then is that one sort of left winger who's gone a bit too far gets booted out the door. In comes another one. This time, the equally horrendous matthew wright a really unpleasant guy actually he used to host the show before me at uh talk radio and people couldn't stand him because he's so weird and so rude but there's this great moment where again he's so tortured by the fact that his listeners are actually revealing to him that you backed a dud.
Starting point is 00:48:10 This Labour government is a dud. And you can see the colour draining from his face as he thinks, how on earth am I going to defend? The first hundred days of Labour have been an unmitigated disaster. It's been marked by fleas, scandal, cronyism and incompetence. But above all, above all, they've been marked by the ideological decision to remove the winter fuel allowance from 10 million pensioners. That has overshadowed everything. Here, Starmer keeps saying that there's a £22 billion black hole in the finances, which is why they need to remove £1.4 billion of winter fuel allowance. Yet I've just worked out on the back of a Post-it note that since July, Labour have spent £70 billion,
Starting point is 00:48:59 £22 billion on carbon capture and storage, £11.6 billion on foreign aid, £8.5 billion on CB Energy, £7.5 billion on the Wealth Fund, £3.6 billion to Ukraine, and on and on and on. Matthew, that comes to £68.5 billion. So they are lying. You think not only about the pensioners, the 10 million pensioners, but also about the thousands upon thousands upon thousands of workers who have lost their jobs all but steel in wales at grangemouth in scotland at harland and wolf you know we talk yeah you know and and these are disastrous decisions not to mention a hundred
Starting point is 00:49:36 thousand jobs in scotland at risk from the ban on offshore oil and gas grilling. So, you know, Labour are not sticking to Labour values. How good, how good is that caller? And isn't it just brilliant? You can see Matthew Wright thinking, I have no answer to this. I have no answer. They all backed the wrong guy. Yeah, I mean, that caller was absolutely outstanding. I mean, the facts and the figures. And you can see that he's struggling. He's looking away. You know, he's almost in agreement. He wants to nod and say yes. I mean, there's a point where he turns away, like he's going to throw up with the truth bomb that's just landed awkward call for him. And I think that's absolutely brilliant. But you must always beware of a guy who has a rat's tail. So, yeah, you know, he's definitely one to watch. But what a call. He's a weirdo. He's a total weirdo. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:50:36 But then. Don't eloquently put. But you know what LBC is now doing, Ben? They need to look for new enemies because it's all about distraction. So the latest enemy is, of course, Elon Musk. This was a crazy decision, by the way, for Labour to exclude the world's richest man from today's investment summit. I mean, it shows that they're a complete joke of a government but before we get to that can we just look at this discussion on lbc between stephen fry and andrew ma as they decide that it's elon musk because he's fighting for
Starting point is 00:51:13 free speech and speaking up for common sense that is actually the biggest threat to the world you're one of the first people out of twitter yes um because of him, exactly. So just tell people why you left. I began to see signs of woeful and worrying qualities in this Musk man. And I saw him veering off into the kind of, you know, I don't want to use words like narcissistic personality disorder, because he's not mine, not a psychiatrist. But the kind of self-obsessed inability to take criticism that one sees in Trump and one knows from certain people when they're drunk, but not normal people when they're sober or thoughtful. And certainly not. It's not a very British thing, you know. And I just thought this man is going off the rails severely. And it
Starting point is 00:52:00 seems he's gone further and further towards the dark side. I mean, Ben, firstly, Stephen Fry, talking about someone with narcissistic personality disorder, is just a little bit too hypocritical for me. But why on earth have they decided to make Musk, who's fighting to protect the West, and actually to save the West, the new bogeyman? Why do they hate him so much? They have Musk derangement syndrome, I've decided.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Well, I guess we kind of should listen to Stephen on that front because he'll have a working knowledge of narcissistic tendencies. So, you know, he's got... And self-optimism. He knows what he's talking about. But, yeah, absolutely ridiculous. I mean, you know, and to refer to him as a move to the dark side this is how these people kind of sum up anyone who just has a different opinion to them and i don't disagree i mean musk is kind of he's a little
Starting point is 00:52:56 bit crazy but isn't that fine you know who cares um but they've excluded him from these talks um and like you say the richest guy in the world. What a stupid move. And again, just based on their political kind of their feeling. It's just it's not right. Doesn't it show, though, how thin skinned Starmer is? Slippery Starmer, as I call him, because the only reason that you would not invite Musk to the World Investment Summit or the UK Investment Summit is because of a personal issue. And Starmer doesn't like Musk because Musk called him out for all of the ludicrous behavior in the wake of the so-called riots after the Southport massacre.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And actually, it was impossible yesterday for Jonathan Reynolds, the business secretary, to defend the indefensible during an interview with Trevor Phillips on Sly News. Watch this. Why didn't you invite Elon Musk? You're desperate to get a company which sacks its employees by Zoom. But you're stiffy about the biggest car maker in the world because he put something on social media he didn't like. Look, I'm not going to comment on particular invitations from particular personnel.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Come on, Elon Musk is not some odd invitation. It is Elon Musk, biggest carmaker in the world, richest man in the world. Why didn't you invite him? Look, I'm not going to comment on the reasons for any specific person, but I can tell you we have 300 of the most significant investors, business figures, people who can bring significant amounts of capital to the UK. Big names, things that will make a big difference to working people's lives, and that's the criteria.
Starting point is 00:54:35 You're happy to talk to me about DP World, who sacks their workers. You're happy to invite the Saudis, who authorise the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, and they get the red carpet. Why isn't Musk being invited? This is you in opposition, isn't it? I mean, no answer because there is no good answer. any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin sandwiches,
Starting point is 00:55:07 small hot coffee and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's Taxes Extra. There is no answer. I mean, okay, you've got 300 really rich guys, women around the table. Why not have 301? Musk has probably got the same amount of money if you add all of those people together.
Starting point is 00:55:23 It was a stupid move based on the wrong reasons. And they can't, they just can't back it up. I mean, he's absolutely someone who could add value to this country by way of investment. He is a smart guy and he should be allowed to speak. But because he said some hurty words on a social media platform, obviously he can definitely not come here. Yeah. And by the way elon musk it's not like he's banning lefties from x he just wants everyone to have free speech which actually is surely something that we should all be aiming for but another organization that
Starting point is 00:55:56 seems to remain in perpetual opposition is the british bashing corporation the bbc i know they've always been been completely unfair on ukip uh it's just ingrained in them but i think the worst example of where they put political propaganda above entertainment is have i got news for you it's meant to be a show that pillories the government of the day but now that labor's in power they are still just obsessed with going after the Tories. And there was a great example of that with my friend Dame Andrea Jenkins, who appeared on Friday night and got a typical response. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:56:37 He'll come back, won't he? I don't think it's over for him, no. You don't think it's over? I still think Boris was one of our better prime ministers I see you selected the audience you know the people who don't like Boris all conservatives you can't just say you've selected the audience you've got no evidence for that no proof it's just bollocks this isn't this TV news? I thought I was on TV
Starting point is 00:57:08 Sorry I'm in the wrong place altogether Anyway, right It has been another week No, don't go No, no, no Sorry, that was a bit late, wasn't it? Just pathetic, isn't it Ben ben just absolutely pathetic they have their targets
Starting point is 00:57:28 forrest johnson brexiteers and gb news and in fact would you not think that this absolute shit show from labor would have given them so much good content if they were actual comedians rather than political propagandists. Yeah, I mean if there was ever a show that needed to be canned, it's that one. It's well past its sell-by date. Just like most of what the BBC produces now,
Starting point is 00:57:58 it's utterly in the bin. I've used the word earlier for the Labour government, but the BBC's the same. It's an insidious operation, it needs to be broken up and I've been involved in shows be it in regional BBC shows
Starting point is 00:58:13 or national ones in the audience and on the panel and you can quite clearly see that there are paid people there or they are selected based on their political views, this is nothing new they're continuing to do it and quite frankly it's boring it is it's so boring and the great thing is it's
Starting point is 00:58:31 not going to be long until the bbc is done because consumers are making their choice there's some weirdness going on within the bbc though uh jeremy vine sparking a lot of debate for deciding to prance around the corporation in high heels. It's a disturbing video. I'm going to show it to you in one minute and I'll get your reaction, Ben. So stand by. We're back in just one minute. First, though, if you've been following my channel, you know I've talked about Verso before. They were my first ever sponsor for a reason.
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Starting point is 01:01:39 To be honest with you, I'm really liking that. Okay, Ben Walker, it's not often I'm speechless, but what? He's a news presenter on Radio 2. Yeah, I saw that and literally wanted to smash my head through a wall. I mean, it's vile. It's Jeremy vile, basically. I mean, okay, all right. is he having a laugh who knows but he's obviously doing it in bbc time i'm not sure um what that has if anything to do with what he
Starting point is 01:02:15 does and you can see the roars of of laughter in the background where he's easy running and saying he really enjoys it it's just wrong um it's complete misuse of public money it's not what he should be doing it's like gary lineker commenting on political matters stay in lane do what you do and just shut up and stop bringing that corporation into disrepute because that's essentially what you're doing and i'm glad that you know only a shoebox of people watch that now because that's not right. It's not funny. Just pack it in. Yeah, exactly. And if you want to dress up in high heels, that's fine. Do it in your own time if your wife is OK with that, I guess.
Starting point is 01:02:57 But dancing around the BBC? No, very, very odd. Very odd. And also not really, you would think look the bbc was wanting after the issues with hugh edwards and everything else that i've been going through yeah that's a massive miscalculation isn't it when you think about it um you know given that all the hot water they've been in recently and then to go and do something as idiotic as that i mean i also have some concerns about the shorts that he's wearing and the shirt being tucked in the manner in which it is but i'm not the fashion police but um yeah neither am i but the point is you're a news reader go in read the news impartially and do all your silly stuff at home away from the bbc what you get up to in your own bedroom that's absolutely fine no judgment from me but don't be doing it within the the halls
Starting point is 01:03:44 of the bbc but i think ben it just shows you how much the bbc has fallen i mean imagine david david dimpleby looking at that you know and just thinking what the hell happened to to what was you know once a great organization but no longer an organization that we can be proud of but ben Walker, it has been so good to have you. We'll be very interested to see this new policy proposal, this radical new shake-up from UKIP. So please do come back, maybe with Nick Tenkony, once you're ready to unveil that. Of course. Thank you very much for having me, Dan, and keep up the excellent work. Brilliant. Ben Walker, the chairman of the United Kingdom
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